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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It

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<v Speaker 1>is episode one O two. I'm Mike Mahardy, your host

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<v Speaker 1>as always here with Dan Rikert, Hey and Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck cool cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do that anymore. Let me restart. Hey, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the bit I used to like sound disappointed that

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<v Speaker 1>I was in tro I'm Mike Mahardy, your host is

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<v Speaker 1>always here with Dan Riikert, Hello and Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Kish A little more, a little more, a little more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Down south Nan.

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<v Speaker 2>They refer to Porta Viera Me.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you doing there?

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<v Speaker 2>Is my first time. I've never been to Mexico before,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to get away from Portland's reign in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pacific. Northwest has a really heavy rain season that's

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<v Speaker 2>usually like four months long. So we escaped for five

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<v Speaker 2>days and went to porta Verta. I don't know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about the different areas of Mexico, but porta Verta

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<v Speaker 2>is very touristy. It's like, very clearly built to sit

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<v Speaker 2>on a beach, have people bring you margarita's and that's it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you just sit there and you get drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you been to Cabo? It sounds like Cabo to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like Cabo. I have not been to.

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<v Speaker 4>Cabo, Okay, very resort and touristy, yeah, I said on

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<v Speaker 4>the beach, all inclusive stuff like, yeah, that's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't really see too much like authentic culture. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's built around the tourism. But that's okay

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I also like to experience like what it

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<v Speaker 2>is to really you know, walk around and enjoy the sites.

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<v Speaker 2>But for this trip, I just kind of wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>relax and shell. I did do a food tour, which

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty sick because they took us to ate different

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<v Speaker 2>food trucks and I had different types of tacos and

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<v Speaker 2>each food truck was a different taco. But they were

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<v Speaker 2>all so good and I had more tacos than I

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<v Speaker 2>could eat.

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<v Speaker 3>Were any of them even remotely resembling of like a

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<v Speaker 3>Taco Bell taco?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a Caesadia Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, well, Taco White. Because here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been to a million like authentic Mexican places, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course, you know, like they're great, but like I

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<v Speaker 4>am always a bit shocked that, like because my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 4>my dumb American knowledge of Mexican food is Taco Bell

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<v Speaker 4>which is not a Mexican food and everything's just drenched

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<v Speaker 4>and cheese, not even taco bell. If you just go

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<v Speaker 4>to like growing up in Kansas City, it's just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>all these you know, quote unquote Mexican places were just

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<v Speaker 4>like giant caeso bowls and everything's drenched in cheese. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you go to an authentic place and it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not what it's like. So what was the cheese

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<v Speaker 4>factor on your trip?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a fair question from you specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>like how.

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<v Speaker 1>You you couched it and saying it's a fair question

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<v Speaker 1>from you specifically, So.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand it. Yes, I don't disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a funny phrase. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>There are food trucks that are very focused on the

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<v Speaker 2>meat and the salsa, which is very important to most

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<v Speaker 2>of these food trucks, which are like local people. These

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<v Speaker 2>are people who make their living doing this, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they are making these salsas by scratch, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>sourcing their own meat and making them and so there's

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<v Speaker 2>no cheese on those tacos. That taco consists of usually

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<v Speaker 2>pork and or beef and then cilantro and maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some onions and other than that. Everything is the salsa

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<v Speaker 2>that you're putting on top of it, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>lots of different forms of it, whether it's pico digaya

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<v Speaker 2>or something really spicy. And that's it. But we went

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<v Speaker 2>to a very specific truck where they make caesadillas, and

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to god, it was some of the best

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<v Speaker 2>cheese I've ever had. And I was really impressed with

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<v Speaker 2>the cheese flavor. Have you ever had like something that

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of cheese on it and you can

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<v Speaker 2>chew it and you can taste it and it's stretchy

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds good, but there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>flavor going on in the cheese. Like the cheese does

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<v Speaker 2>have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Taste, Yeah, not all cheese has a strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even like sometimes nacho cheese, it's not tasty. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like more of a dipping excursion. It's like avocado.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a texture thing. It's like avocado doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>the strongest flavor, but it's like pleasurable to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can put stuff in it that tastes good. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's how guawk exists. And I feel the same way

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<v Speaker 2>with queso, which is like a queso in America at

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<v Speaker 2>least like we have like all this crap that we

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<v Speaker 2>put in it, so it gives cheese, nacho cheese like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of flavor. So in these food trucks, the

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<v Speaker 2>cheese that they put on these tacos is so flavorful

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<v Speaker 2>and they tasted great. One of my favorite dishes that

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<v Speaker 2>I had the whole trip was just straight up it

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<v Speaker 2>was just beef and cheese and it came with tortillas,

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<v Speaker 2>and you scooped beef and cheese in these tortillas and

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<v Speaker 2>then you just you just mungnged them down and they

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<v Speaker 2>were so jam packed full of flavor. I thought of

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<v Speaker 2>you when I had them, and I wrote the restaurant's

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<v Speaker 2>name down and I'll send it to you. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was fricking great. It was just like the one. There's differences,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to clarify, Like the restaurant is like

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<v Speaker 2>a touristy restaurant and then the food trucks are like

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<v Speaker 2>this is a mom and pop situation, so it's different experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>But either time, when I had a quesadilla, it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this cheese is fantastic. I loved the cheese there and

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<v Speaker 2>I would do it again. Also, the food trucks were

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<v Speaker 2>insanely cheap. Four people we ate dinner at a food

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<v Speaker 2>truck for ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten bucks total total. Oh shit, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of good it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a lot of Margarita's. I am a mez

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<v Speaker 2>cow girl, so I did a lot of mez cows

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<v Speaker 2>smoky drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Does in Jalisco, I believe, which is where most tequila

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<v Speaker 2>They had they had tequila tours. I didn't do a

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<v Speaker 2>tequila tour. I only did the food tour I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not adventurous this trip. I didn't do any excursions.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like. I didn't ride my bike, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I didn't like. I didn't do shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I specifically did one food tour and then the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the trip I basically sat on a beach and

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<v Speaker 2>ordered drinks. If you go to these beach clubs, you

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<v Speaker 2>can just sit and order drinks, and then often people

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<v Speaker 2>will actually come up to you with like little things

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<v Speaker 2>in case you want to buy little knickknacks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like what they have so many different things, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just knickknacks that you might want to take home. And

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<v Speaker 2>I sat there for two days and that was it

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<v Speaker 2>then my trip was over, so it went really quick.

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<v Speaker 2>When you do a whole lot of nothing, I read

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<v Speaker 2>it was nice. I think there's other people who are like,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't you bored? I was like, I chose to be bored.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be bored. Yeah, I like paid to

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<v Speaker 2>be bored, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>We we're uh, we just booked ten days in Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>in June, and we liked what we did in France,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas like there's that section in the middle where we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just relaxed, went to a nice hotel, did

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<v Speaker 1>not do much at all. But we've been we've been

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<v Speaker 1>on trips too where it's like we we're usually pretty adventurous,

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<v Speaker 1>but also it's just awesome to not do shit for

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<v Speaker 1>a while and also be away from home, so then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not thinking about all this responsibilities you have when

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<v Speaker 1>you come back, and you're also just not thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>doing shit, so it's extra relaxing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of people who are like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>a vacation after that vacation because it was very exhausting

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<v Speaker 2>and they did a lot. I think this is an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting topic because I have a girlfriend who's husband vacations

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<v Speaker 2>very differently than she does. She's a relaxing girly like me.

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<v Speaker 2>She likes to sit and do nothing. She wants to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in on her holidays and like worry about what

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<v Speaker 2>she's gonna eat for dinner that night, Like that's what

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to do. He's the opposite. He's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>paying a lot of money to be in this amazing country.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to do an excursion every day so that

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing this place and we're experiencing it and like

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<v Speaker 2>meeting other locals and other people on this adventure, and

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<v Speaker 2>we have lots of memories. And they both have valid

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<v Speaker 2>things that they want, but they're extremely different. And on

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<v Speaker 2>their honeymoon, they got into it because he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, we gotta make this boat tour by four.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, I don't want to fucking walk

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<v Speaker 2>anymore today. And he was like, but the boat tour

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, but my fucking like life, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. I don't care about the boat, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about the culture anymore. I don't care about the experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to sit by a pool and have a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>And they had they like had like a big spat

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<v Speaker 2>about it and now on their vacations, they're still like

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<v Speaker 2>married and in love, but they like recognized on that

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<v Speaker 2>trip that they were very different vacationers, and so now

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<v Speaker 2>they plan for it and they have specific days where

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<v Speaker 2>he goes on an excursion by himself and she sits

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<v Speaker 2>and does fucking fuck all and then they come back

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<v Speaker 2>and they're more in love than ever. But they had

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<v Speaker 2>to like figure that out.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Yeah, there's there's something to that.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like like when Bonka and I travel, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you know, she does a lot of the planning.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Like like with the Rubo when we went there, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, okay, so we're gonna have these days where

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<v Speaker 4>it's like we're gonna get up in the morning, we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do We're gonna ride horses by the shore and

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<v Speaker 4>do all this stuff, and then we got a really

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<v Speaker 4>nice like dinner reserve for later in the evening. But

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<v Speaker 4>then there's this four hour chunk in between where it's

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<v Speaker 4>specifically we're keeping this open so we can just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like hang out and walk along the beach.

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<v Speaker 3>Or just kind of explore or go to a bar

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that was that's a good mix, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because like you go to a place like that and

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<v Speaker 4>you want be able to relax, but also you want

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<v Speaker 4>to like parasale and ride horses and do all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>so you can kind of get both of your planet, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a balance some of the some of like the

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<v Speaker 1>relaxing days end up being my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like again, halfway through our long French trip, there was

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<v Speaker 1>one day when both of us were exhausted and well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have anything, plants just kind of wander around.

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<v Speaker 1>We ended up stumbling on supposedly one of the more

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<v Speaker 1>famous like farmers markets in central France. Ended up just

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<v Speaker 1>cooking at the airbnb that night and having wine from

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<v Speaker 1>around the area that we had found, which was awesome

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and that's awesome. So like, you can

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm definitely not opposed at all to sitting by

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<v Speaker 1>moon right after the wedding, we did not do much

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, we did some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>what else is new? Oh, I've been I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep going. We have been watching the Bond movies. We're

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<v Speaker 3>Now, which one? What was the last one you watched?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Okay, because, like I the first one that came

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<v Speaker 4>was Golden Eye, which we've talked about. But like, I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen every all the Brows and ones, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>seen Specter or No Time to Die. And I've heard

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<v Speaker 4>Specter was terrible boring, and then I heard most people

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<v Speaker 4>it'srobably gonna be the last Craig One, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe it is. And who knows what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen now that Amazon owns all that shit, right?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I uh, I don't think this is that

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<v Speaker 1>unpopular of an opinion. But rewatching them, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Eye is Pierce Brosnan's like only good Bond.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember Die Another Day was like, it has some

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<v Speaker 4>so stupid, they're kind of fun things between like the

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<v Speaker 3>The Madonna fencing thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Car has the invisible car the woman. I used to

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<v Speaker 4>be like, yeah, it's the guy who was diamonds in

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<v Speaker 4>his face. It's it's play stupid. Yeah, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Entertaining so far. We're about halfway through. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>like when I was younger, world is not enough. Just

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<v Speaker 1>rewatching that with Christmas Jones, Denise Richards.

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<v Speaker 3>Who right, Christmas only comes once a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Christmas only came once a year, which, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, is a phenomenal line. The rest of them

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<v Speaker 1>a really good one. Yes, the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie though, is really bad dialogue but.

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<v Speaker 4>Terry Hatcher and right right and Sophie uh, who's the

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<v Speaker 4>French lady?

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<v Speaker 3>That was in a movie about dogs. She was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the Bond girls during one of those.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Timothy the bad guy, the tech, the Elon

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Price.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jonathan Price was Yeah, he was like he

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<v Speaker 1>was the media mogul who was like creating wars to

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<v Speaker 1>get his broadcasting station bigger. And he's talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>much of a genius he is the whole time. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>he can't foresee that broadcast news would be dying in

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<v Speaker 1>like four years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there's a Katzenberg making quibi. He thought he

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Yeo is his like, uh, what's the word I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for? Or like a Chinese counterpart, Chinese intelligence counterpart

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<v Speaker 1>and Tomorrow Never Dies. World is The World is not Enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Denise Richards. I forget who plays Electra who ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being the real villain. She's just pretending that she

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<v Speaker 1>was kidnapped. Spoilers I this move two ninety nine. I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Sophie Marceau. That's who I'm thinking of.

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<v Speaker 1>What was she in? She was in She's in one

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<v Speaker 1>of what we're just talking about. It might be electric.

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<v Speaker 1>The World is not enough Electra, right, yeah, yes, Electric King.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah she's good. Yeah, yeah, she's a babe. They all

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<v Speaker 1>are weird, I know. So really excited to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to Casino Royle, which is one of the best. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been ranking all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have like an actual list of the rank.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you want to hear my current one? So we

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<v Speaker 1>have not finished by another day. I've watched nineteen. It

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<v Speaker 1>might take a few. People are going to go crazy

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<v Speaker 1>over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing it? Can you do it? From? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to see? I think interesting to start

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<v Speaker 2>with my favorite, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't think my favorite. I think my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>will catch people off guard. Thunderball with Sean Connery specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was the first one where I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they finally started actually like doing a bunch of cool

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<v Speaker 1>ass set pieces, and the dialogue is nowhere near good

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<v Speaker 1>enough in that era to carry the movie by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>The globe trotting gets old after like four movies. Thunderball

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<v Speaker 1>is awesome. There's this whole sequence where they like stop

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<v Speaker 1>divers attack it and take the bombs out, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they put netting over it to hide it. It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>From Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>Would ask you another question, did you watch them insequential order?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on sale for like twenty dollars a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. I was like, I should get this because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why not from Russia would Love is

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<v Speaker 1>my second. I don't think that'll surprise anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Never saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, it's slow, it's it feels more like a

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<v Speaker 1>like Criterion movie, but it's just him what's his name,

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<v Speaker 1>Quint from Jaws? Uh oh, Yeah, he's like his Russian

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<v Speaker 1>like assassin stalking him the whole movie. It's cool, like

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<v Speaker 1>Cat and Mouse. GoldenEye is my third one. Were you

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<v Speaker 1>watching Golden Eye? That movie is still great?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole Sean or yeah, Sean being Alec Trevellian, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he I'd never paid attention to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole leenns Cossack backstory with him when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>the group that was like sided with the Nazis, then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the war agreed to help the British,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the British like killed a bunch of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they manufactured a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>for I gotta I have not. I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that movie ten times. I don't remember that

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like his whole motivation. He wants revenge on the

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<v Speaker 1>British government, so he infiltrated am I. He became double

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<v Speaker 1>O six.

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<v Speaker 3>There's parts of that movie I remember very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, still really good. Goldfingererfore Licensed to Kill Dalton. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>that he did two movies and I loved both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's awesome. He might be my like third favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Bond after Craig and Pierce Brosnan. He is alive. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at that kill for him. The last thing I saw

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<v Speaker 1>killed Timothy. He was in hot Fuzz.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like the right, Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Living. Daylights was his first one. So he's got the

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<v Speaker 1>five and six spot right now. Man with the Golden Gun,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think a lot of people love, but

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it quite a bit. It was really dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just Sean Connery versus Christopher Lee, who is the

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<v Speaker 1>man with the Golden Gun who just invites people to

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<v Speaker 1>his island and brings him into a funhouse and then

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<v Speaker 1>like makes challenges for himself to kill them.

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<v Speaker 3>This sounds great. That's like years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, you should watch Man with a Golden Gun.

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<v Speaker 3>You just christ I wouldn't kill anyone. I would just

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<v Speaker 3>like throw pies in their faces.

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<v Speaker 2>Man with Cheese Gun. This one, I don't expect you

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything, mister Bond to just die. And you're

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<v Speaker 2>eating so minute Sachs. You're eating a chili she's bean burrito.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you try and laser his groin.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just good Friday night. I think this one will

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<v Speaker 1>be controversial. Number eight for me right now is Her

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<v Speaker 1>Majesty's Secret Service. First one on Her Majesty's Secret Service. No,

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<v Speaker 1>George Lazenbee's Only.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm. He came after Sean Connery and then it went

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<v Speaker 1>awry and they brought Sean Connery back for Never Say

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<v Speaker 1>Never Again. No, that was the non aon film one.

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<v Speaker 1>He did another one it's here somewhere on this list,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember which one. Then Tomorrow Never Dies,

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<v Speaker 1>and then For Your Eyes Only, which was Roger Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did it. That was like Grease and Turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>They did some like revenge stuff there where the Bond

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<v Speaker 1>girl wanted to kill James. What did I just say

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<v Speaker 1>for yours the Spy who Loved Me, which is when

423
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<v Speaker 1>he gets married and then his wife dies right at

424
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<v Speaker 1>the end, okay, and he doesn't seem to care that much.

425
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<v Speaker 1>I forgot how long they carry that through. Now that

426
00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I say it out loud, I don't think I like

427
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<v Speaker 1>that movie You Only Live Twice, which is oh thirteen.

428
00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately you only Live twice, Sean Connery basically does yellow

429
00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:17.680
<v Speaker 1>face he e, so, uh that's not great. No, there

430
00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:19.640
<v Speaker 1>is like a huge kung fu fight towards the end,

431
00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and uh there's a secret base center a volcano. That's

432
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<v Speaker 1>Those parts sound all right when I describe all these

433
00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.359
<v Speaker 1>out loud. I don't think I liked any of them.

434
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<v Speaker 1>The World is not at fourteen. Live and Let Die

435
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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen, which is Roger Moore's first one, and they

436
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<v Speaker 1>do a lot of the like like voodoo culture kind

437
00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:42.279
<v Speaker 1>of shit that they do terribly. That not that that's shit,

438
00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, it's shit in the movie

439
00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:49.480
<v Speaker 1>A View to a Kill Octopussy, which was terrible. Diamonds

440
00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Are Forever, which is like Vegas and awful. Although there

441
00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.880
<v Speaker 1>are the two henchmen in Diamonds Are Forever that are

442
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<v Speaker 1>very weird and actually kind of have something to do

443
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<v Speaker 1>with an email or we got for later. And then

444
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<v Speaker 1>Moonraker it's as bad as everybody says, but like it's

445
00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:06.000
<v Speaker 1>main moon Breaker.

446
00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's not even a good name.

447
00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it's an awesome name.

448
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>It's not a moon Raker a laser.

449
00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a laser. But also the movie's boring as shit.

450
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<v Speaker 1>And it came out, I believe, like right after Star Wars,

451
00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:18.839
<v Speaker 1>so they're like, oh, we got we gotta do some

452
00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sci fi stuff, gotta.

453
00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Do moon stuff.

454
00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's so weird, it's so hot right now.

455
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<v Speaker 4>I just I have the only one before a Brozenan

456
00:22:31.960 --> 00:22:35.559
<v Speaker 4>movie or GoldenEye that I've seen is I think that's

457
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<v Speaker 4>a Goldfinger in college. But I think I was just

458
00:22:38.200 --> 00:22:42.000
<v Speaker 4>so into GoldenEye the movie and specifically the game, which

459
00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:43.519
<v Speaker 4>the game does some things where it's like you can

460
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<v Speaker 4>unlock Baron, Semite and Jaws and Odd Job and all

461
00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:47.599
<v Speaker 4>this stuff, and then you've got the moon Raker laser

462
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:49.759
<v Speaker 4>and all this shit that like there was a period

463
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<v Speaker 4>I was just like looking up a lot of Bond stuff,

464
00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:54.400
<v Speaker 4>so like I know all the Bonds and I know

465
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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the big beats of all the movies

466
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<v Speaker 4>and stuff, but I've basically just seen Brosnan and Craig

467
00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:01.839
<v Speaker 4>and not even all those. But it's just like through osmosis,

468
00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:03.640
<v Speaker 4>through being obsessed with the game, I think I learned

469
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:04.599
<v Speaker 4>like so much about that.

470
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<v Speaker 2>That's cool that you got to like have all that

471
00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>there are. There are the ladies in the games, I

472
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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're.

473
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<v Speaker 4>Not and multiplayer, oh yeah, yeah, there's like a boss

474
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:15.359
<v Speaker 4>fight against Zenia in GoldenEye. There's a lot of like

475
00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:17.160
<v Speaker 4>protecting Natalia from GoldenEye on.

476
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>That and then may Days in it. She's a unlock

477
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:24.759
<v Speaker 1>character in multiplayer. Sure, sure, yeah, So not mentioning some

478
00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:25.079
<v Speaker 1>of them.

479
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the only one that's really really great is

480
00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:29.079
<v Speaker 4>Golden There's a lot of good ones, like the PS

481
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:31.039
<v Speaker 4>two era. I had some good Bond games. It's a

482
00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:34.200
<v Speaker 4>really cool thing they did from Russia with love Is.

483
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:37.119
<v Speaker 4>They like brought Connery back when Connery was probably like

484
00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.559
<v Speaker 4>seventy or at least late sixties, and they had and yeah,

485
00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:42.920
<v Speaker 4>they had Connery voice Bond again for the first time

486
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<v Speaker 4>in forever. When this game came out in like probably

487
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.359
<v Speaker 4>the mid to late two thousands, and I just thought

488
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.400
<v Speaker 4>that was a really cool thing for games, Like, all right,

489
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 4>we can have him be young Bond again. He still

490
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:53.640
<v Speaker 4>sounds like Sean Connery, does he.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Still sound like it. I feel like when you're seventy,

492
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you kind of sound like you're seventy.

493
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<v Speaker 4>I remember not being I mean, i'd have to go back.

494
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:02.799
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen it forever, but like I remember thinking

495
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:04.519
<v Speaker 4>like this is cool, Like wasn't the best game in

496
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 4>the world, but I thought it's like this was a

497
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:08.160
<v Speaker 4>noble attempt at doing something cool here.

498
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:10.680
<v Speaker 2>That's cool. I mean, I just like they didn't get

499
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the original actor for Indiana Jones game, you know, like

500
00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 2>he's seventy.

501
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.680
<v Speaker 4>Super worked out though, Like, yeah, they got him for

502
00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:20.640
<v Speaker 4>the movie. They got Harrison Ford for the movie. Did

503
00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:22.279
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of shitty the aging, but then you got

504
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.240
<v Speaker 4>Terry Baker to do the voice, which is.

505
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>In the opposite though, right, Like, don't.

506
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.839
<v Speaker 1>D Indiana Baker in the movie and.

507
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Get the O G voice because all he has to

508
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.200
<v Speaker 2>do is do his little quips against the Nazis, which

509
00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:36.640
<v Speaker 2>he can do.

510
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

511
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<v Speaker 4>I heard the Harrison Ford Conan podcast and he sounds

512
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.319
<v Speaker 4>like an old man for sure, but he's still like

513
00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.200
<v Speaker 4>he's super there, Like he still has all of that

514
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:48.119
<v Speaker 4>wit and he's fucking hilarious on the Conen podcast and like,

515
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:48.880
<v Speaker 4>so he's.

516
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I love seeing old guy that.

517
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:52.160
<v Speaker 4>It's like, Okay, that's still even though he doesn't look

518
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:53.880
<v Speaker 4>the same or walk the same or talk the same,

519
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:55.279
<v Speaker 4>like he's still that guy.

520
00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 3>You know.

521
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>He's very funny and shrinking.

522
00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:00.440
<v Speaker 3>And I've heard I've heard the shows good It.

523
00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:04.079
<v Speaker 2>And Shrinking, and people are talking about that show a lot.

524
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>And I finally ended up watching it and it's great

525
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>and it is really worth watching. I think it's a

526
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:14.920
<v Speaker 2>fantastic just a great acted show from everyone. But he's

527
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of a star. He's kind of a comic relief,

528
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.759
<v Speaker 2>which is so odd, and it has some serious subject

529
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>matter in it, and anytime he's in the room, we're

530
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:28.480
<v Speaker 2>just like, you know that old Coot's gonna like accidentally

531
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>take too many mushrooms, Like he's gonna do something. You know,

532
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna do something wacky. He ends up just always

533
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:37.799
<v Speaker 2>being the comedic relief in every scene.

534
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm a big fan of old guys getting paid, Like

535
00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:44.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, so Irison for it. I feel like was

536
00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 4>gone for like fifteen years and then he pops up.

537
00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.680
<v Speaker 4>Now he's just doing car commercials, showing up and move homes.

538
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.839
<v Speaker 1>And just getting paid. What's that? Oh yeah, a whole guard. Yeah.

539
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>John Carpenter is in that same category.

540
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I think like de Niro is fully DeNiro and Pacino

541
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.119
<v Speaker 4>are both in full on like, hey, we did our

542
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.000
<v Speaker 4>stuff where we want our oscars and did our art

543
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 4>house corse asy stuff, and they can still dabble in that, honey.

544
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

545
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh, they will just show up in a Sandler movie

546
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.680
<v Speaker 4>or a Meet the Fokkers and just get paid, and

547
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:13.079
<v Speaker 4>I have all the respect in the world.

548
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Worked. There's an interview with Harrison Ford recently. I think

549
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>it was some just press circuit kind of thing where

550
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they're like, the interviewer asked him because they had had

551
00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 1>a good report. He's like, so do you feel kind

552
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.839
<v Speaker 1>of like ridiculous playing the Red Hulk? And Harrison Ford

553
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>like I thought he was gonna be pissed. He's like, well, yeah,

554
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>but that's what the money's for, yeah, paying me to

555
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>be an asshole.

556
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 4>It's like every comic on where they bring John Carpenter

557
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 4>out and somebody asks like, so, what are your thoughts

558
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 4>they're making these new Halloween movies, and some of them

559
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 4>are being received well, and it's like, you know, like

560
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 4>this is your baby, and it's like he's so old

561
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.680
<v Speaker 4>now and he's just like, listen, this is my involvement

562
00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 4>with that.

563
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:51.599
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

564
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 4>They say we're gonna make a movie, and then I

565
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.759
<v Speaker 4>put my hand out and they put a bunch of

566
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.119
<v Speaker 4>money in it and I say thank you, and then

567
00:26:59.160 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I never think.

568
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.720
<v Speaker 3>About it again. It's like, yeah, fuck, yeah, that guy's awesome.

569
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There. I appreciate that they're not like stuck up

570
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 1>enough to be like, oh, they're ruining my creations, like

571
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>it's it's out of your hands.

572
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>They evolve. I think like there's an element of this

573
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>where the original fan base, who have worked, who have

574
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.400
<v Speaker 2>put a lot of time and energy into that space,

575
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 2>have every right to be like, oh, this isn't for me, right.

576
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>This happened with Star Wars time and time again, where

577
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 2>the original fans are like, you have fucked up this

578
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.319
<v Speaker 2>thing that I love. Sure, but at some point it's

579
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>actually just not for the original fans anymore. It's for children,

580
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>or it's for like a new generation. It's for a

581
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>new audience, and you have every right to say, oh,

582
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 2>this isn't for me anymore, and not watch it. But

583
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you can't hold on to something and try and own it.

584
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just not in our control anymore. Once like the

585
00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>cultural zeitgeist has taken it, it might evolve into something

586
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>you don't like, and then that's just that's just the

587
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>way it is, man.

588
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 4>That's why it's so funny when it's like something like

589
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 4>a Ghostbusters or an Indaturnal or something that was popular

590
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:03.559
<v Speaker 4>among like guys my age, like a new one comes

591
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 4>out and then like forty year old ass men are

592
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 4>just like, this isn't for me.

593
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, dude, those.

594
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Cartoons you watched in the eighties and nineties weren't for

595
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 4>your forty year old parents either, Like this is our

596
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.480
<v Speaker 4>new generation here. Like you mentioned Star Wars Mary, that

597
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 4>was the ultimate one where it's like when that new trilogy,

598
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 4>the prequel trilogy came out and all these like older fans, now, what.

599
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 3>The funck jar Jars a kid's character, and.

600
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like, well no, but you talk to kids

601
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 4>that were like six seven when The Phantom Menace came out,

602
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 4>and they have very fond, you know, young memories of

603
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Speaker 4>those movies.

604
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Chargu was very popular with annoying children. They love annoying characters.

605
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 1>They can see themselves in him.

606
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 2>They can empathize and relate. And I feel the same

607
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>way with all of the remakes of the Disney classics, right,

608
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.279
<v Speaker 2>They're like, they keep like remaking my beloved Disney classics

609
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>into real life. I don't like them, but that they're

610
00:28:55.920 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 2>not for me. They're not remaking these assex for me.

611
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 2>They're making them for children to like relive my young

612
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, my experience of seeing Aladdin in theaters. Oh,

613
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I just have to say, I think we are the

614
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>best generation of all time. I know all generations think this,

615
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>but like, I saw Aladdin in theaters as a child,

616
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and it was so fucking sick, you guys, And it

617
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>blew my tiny child brain when they did this three

618
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 2>D part of the of the rug and it was

619
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>like weaving in and out and I was like, you

620
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>can't animate that, that's not possible, and my dad was like,

621
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>three d's here, and it just blew my fucking mind.

622
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 4>The fucking the sand like lion thing when that opened,

623
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.200
<v Speaker 4>that looks incredible. That looks so fucking greater. The tower

624
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 4>when it was rolling and stuff like that was magical shit.

625
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Like I feel like, yes, Mary, you're right with that

626
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.599
<v Speaker 4>Disney era. Like when I think about my Disney childhood,

627
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 4>it is from Aladdin.

628
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.759
<v Speaker 3>It's Aladdin and it's.

629
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no.

630
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 4>No, we're gonna we're gonna turn hard on it and

631
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 4>the Lion King, and it's like, yes, when you're eight

632
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<v Speaker 4>or ten years old, those were masterful experiences. You know,

633
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<v Speaker 4>an entire catalog and entire brand obsession. And you're you know, forty,

634
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<v Speaker 4>then it's a little more troublesome, but you know, they

635
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<v Speaker 4>did some good stuff back then.

636
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I'm going to go to the

637
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<v Speaker 2>kingdom that they've constructed for children, you know, get the

638
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<v Speaker 2>season pass and making your whole personality as a year

639
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<v Speaker 2>old and get the years for each season. That's That's

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<v Speaker 2>not how far I'm in.

641
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<v Speaker 1>We just go to Nintendo museums like cool adults. Yeah, exactly,

642
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<v Speaker 1>you get it. Mario, which is like gritty and adult. Yeah,

643
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<v Speaker 1>and that's totally different.

644
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah time, yeah, absolutely, yeah, you get it.

645
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<v Speaker 1>We're cool adults, cool gass geeks. So what's going on

646
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<v Speaker 1>with you guys?

647
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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Mary mentioned case earlier. I made a note on

648
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<v Speaker 4>my game notes document that I need to make a

649
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<v Speaker 4>case of the because well, no, yeah it does, because

650
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<v Speaker 4>it literally does, and you get through.

651
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<v Speaker 2>A case because he doesn't know how to spell it,

652
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<v Speaker 2>and it's just a circle.

653
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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, whoa, give me shit where I deserve it?

654
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Spelling is not that spot.

655
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he gets really defensive a spelling bee chops because

656
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<v Speaker 1>it's actually have I have I asked you to spell

657
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<v Speaker 1>the word that I weirdly remember the word that the

658
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<v Speaker 1>kid won the script spelling Bee with in When was

659
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<v Speaker 1>I in sixth grade? I would have been twelve, so

660
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<v Speaker 1>that would have been two thousand and three, okay, two

661
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<v Speaker 1>thousand and three the script Spelling Bee. The word was autocthinous.

662
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<v Speaker 1>It's a basically a synonym for indigenous. Uh. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I could it's autocthinous. I think we did this

664
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<v Speaker 1>like episode four?

665
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<v Speaker 3>Is it aut is that it starts?

666
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, say it again autocthinous?

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<v Speaker 3>Talk oh after that.

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<v Speaker 1>A U T O H yes, T N O us

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<v Speaker 1>say that again, T E n like tenuous t E

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<v Speaker 1>n O us No, but very very close T T

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<v Speaker 1>O N O U.

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<v Speaker 4>S okay okay, like okay, yeah, okay, sure sure, But

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<v Speaker 4>to case it is yeah, yeah.

674
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've gotten way off from case.

675
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, case it is to spell it.

676
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<v Speaker 4>I'm loving cooking a lot, uh, and I'm doing it

677
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 4>more like you know, I was doing the cocktails stuff

678
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 4>and everything. I was like, oh, I like doing cocktails,

679
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 4>but I can't cook. And then it's like telling.

680
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<v Speaker 1>It this until now I've tell I've been telling you

681
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 1>to learn how to cook for like ten years and

682
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't give me a text or anything.

683
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna text you every time I see you

684
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<v Speaker 3>a chicken.

685
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<v Speaker 4>I So it's started very simple with me just being

686
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 4>like I need to start eating vegetables and fruits or

687
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm probably gonna die quicker than I should.

688
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 1>And so I just.

689
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<v Speaker 4>Started doing like, all right, every night, it's gonna be

690
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 4>a bonelesskinless chicken breast that I see eed. And then

691
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 4>like I'm gonna make a vegetable and so just be like, Okay,

692
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<v Speaker 4>here's a souvd chicken breast, and uh, you know, I

693
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<v Speaker 4>asparagus or something like that.

694
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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm usually doing two veggies.

695
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>And now I'm I got a cast iron pan and

696
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing this searring on that with some canola oil

697
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 4>and all that tonight, I made a salmon with with

698
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 4>a roasted carrots and potatoes, and like, I'm doing all

699
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.640
<v Speaker 4>these things with different seasonings, and uh, I want to

700
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 4>just keep stretching out, like like the I bought a

701
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<v Speaker 4>little like tacoholder thing for the air fryer and I'm

702
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 4>making I'm spreading olive oil on little tortillas and folding

703
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<v Speaker 4>them up and do an avocado mashing them up and

704
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:29.960
<v Speaker 4>made my own taco seasoning. I so like, yeah, when

705
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<v Speaker 4>I'm a case of the Yeah, it turns out cooking

706
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:32.240
<v Speaker 4>super fun.

707
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like it.

708
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 3>It's very exciting for me.

709
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Where come from? Because we are trying to off You

710
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 2>told us you would cut Dan.

711
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.079
<v Speaker 1>This is this is I'm actually like this. I'm this

712
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>is not a bit. I'm angry.

713
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 3>This is not a bit with me either.

714
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, then I am even more angrier. Dan, go like

715
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<v Speaker 1>four episodes. I fucking told you, once you start cooking,

716
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you'll love it. I believe me. No, I'm not fucking

717
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I believe your hammerd thing. You don't listen to people.

718
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I feel like a lot of people take

719
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 1>this personally or it's just like damn, I told you this.

720
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like Look, anyone who hears me say something that

721
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I forget it, it's.

722
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Like, just no, that's everyone. Minatti does it every fucking

723
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 4>time on Blake Love.

724
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>A solipsistic person and you're a narcissist. What got you

725
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>past the stove? What got you past your sphere of flames?

726
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 3>Wanting vegetables in my life and trying to figure out that.

727
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>But you had this whole thing about you, how you

728
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find time to make broccoli because you got to

729
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>beat all these video games. Where did you get the time?

730
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, you know, you got to change your

731
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 4>schedule around a little bit, and like like today, I

732
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:34.440
<v Speaker 4>spent like an hour in the kitchen.

733
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm not. I don't.

734
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm maybe you incepted it into his brain, Like have

735
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you ever considered the.

736
00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Fact that you are his hero? Get any you could

737
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 1>find time to make broccoli? I think you're fucking with me.

738
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you've him.

739
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I swear to fucking God, I'm not with you.

740
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I was fucking there. I'm telling you.

741
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I remember a conversation. I do remember that.

742
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, because I was even talking about just brocoli

743
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 4>in the air fryer, which takes like ten fucking minutes. Yeah,

744
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if my well, you know what, Maybe

745
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:04.440
<v Speaker 4>that was during the time I was traveling NonStop, and

746
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:06.119
<v Speaker 4>I've actually had a couple months off of traveling, So

747
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:06.920
<v Speaker 4>maybe that's the no.

748
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>You said you literally ran through your entire day's schedule

749
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>with us Mary and I did the math. I definitely

750
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<v Speaker 1>remember hours. You said these videos.

751
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I put forty five minutes down for teeth, remember that.

752
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's too much, And now that's I'm done with

753
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 4>the tooth stuff now, So maybe that's it. Maybe my

754
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 4>tooth stuff got figured out. Now I'm finding all the time.

755
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 2>His teeth is now five minutes, and now there's forty

756
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 2>minutes extra for broccoli.

757
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tooth is easy now. I swear to God. I

758
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>swear to fucking I'm so fucking if you one day

759
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 1>decide to spend like six months getting into wine and

760
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:43.840
<v Speaker 1>then you do it a bit on the show where

761
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 1>and you just catch I don't bring up like a

762
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.719
<v Speaker 1>difference between Kyanti and Kianti Classico.

763
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<v Speaker 4>I think I've gone as far as I can now

764
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 4>with the white. I went from being like I'll never

765
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 4>drink this because my dad says it's for high maintenance

766
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 4>women and only that the whole time I was grown up.

767
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Then I came round and became it. Yeah, I'm behind me.

768
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>That is what my dad thinks of Mike.

769
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, lady, that's.

770
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>What I'm That's like exactly what I'm going for. So, yeah,

771
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I got past all that old Paul's stuff and I

772
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 1>got to the boy.

773
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Now we's like, oh, every once in a while, I

774
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 4>want to have some drinks. I will just pop open

775
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 4>a bottle of wine. And I think, you know, I've tried,

776
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 4>you know, the fine wines, and I've tried you know, like, well, no,

777
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.239
<v Speaker 4>not I know what you're talking about. But I've had

778
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 4>the ones that you've recommended, like when we go to

779
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 4>restaurants and stuff like that, and.

780
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's good, It's all good. But I definitely

781
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have the palette to like I I didn't. I

782
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm going to become a like wine guy

783
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>on that level. I just and a guy who enjoys

784
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>wine on occasion, now, which is I meant. I could

785
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 1>see you doing it to spite me. That would be funny,

786
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I'd be pissed, but I know more

787
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:47.079
<v Speaker 1>than you.

788
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think he would do it to destroy you.

789
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 2>I think he would do it just to watch you squirm.

790
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 1>But what I meant by the stove thing is what

791
00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 1>you had, like this fear of it. I know that

792
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 1>you decided you needed to it was like Bianca helping

793
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>you or did you watch videos on how to use it?

794
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 1>What got you past? Just the actual like anxious fear

795
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of using it.

796
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 4>A big part of it was just like the splattering

797
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 4>of Like it was just like a murder scene every

798
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 4>time I put a chicken breast on the thing. And

799
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 4>now I'm just realizing now, like more like what oil

800
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 4>to use, how much oil to use? The specific thing

801
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.320
<v Speaker 4>is padding down the chicken breast or the salmon, Like

802
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to I'm patting it the fuck down,

803
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 4>it is pretty dry by the time I put it

804
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 4>in there. So yeah, so I'm just getting better at that.

805
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.000
<v Speaker 4>So honestly, YouTube has been very very helpful with that.

806
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Well.

807
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I like those, I got some good recipes, food delivery

808
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>services that give you like the chicken and the recipe.

809
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Those are really nice to teach you some basics.

810
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 4>It was really helpful because, like I've done a couple

811
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:50.800
<v Speaker 4>of sponsorship things on Twitch with like Hello Fresh and

812
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that, and it's like, Okay, you're just gonna

813
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 4>give me all the stuff, tell me step by step

814
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 4>what to do.

815
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Like that was a pretty good intro to that.

816
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Hello Fresh is a great intro to cooking. I really

817
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 2>do think so they're all about the same, right, I

818
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone is like way above the other. They

819
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 2>all kind of deliver you the meat and the sauce,

820
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>but they give you lots of tips and tricks of

821
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>like seasoning and make patting it down. And a lot

822
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 2>of the times I was amazed with how often I

823
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, so, wait, you're telling me this sauce is

824
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>just the chicken crusties on the pan and butter and

825
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 2>like sour cream and that's it and that's my sauce.

826
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, I can do that. And

827
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 2>so eventually I didn't use those anymore because I was

828
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 2>learning that I can make a sauce from like the

829
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>shit in my house. I could figure it out. But

830
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 2>having that foundational knowledge of how to make a sauce

831
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.159
<v Speaker 2>for your chicken is really nice to have.

832
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, and like you know, like taco seasoning and

833
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that was something I never thought of in

834
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 4>my life. And then when I learned like, oh, okay,

835
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<v Speaker 4>I just you know, I'll get a little bowl and

836
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 4>I'll put some like cumin and some chili powder and

837
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 4>make it pepper and paprika and stuff like I'm just

838
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<v Speaker 4>gonna make my own little mix here, and then you

839
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 4>can like tweak things or it's like, oh, I really

840
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 4>like the taste of cuman, I'm gonna be a little

841
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 4>heavier on that, and it's what to hell.

842
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that's cool. I like that you're you're excited

843
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<v Speaker 2>about it. I do. I also like that it pisses

844
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Mike off, So I think I'm benefiting from both ends.

845
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm no guy, I'm very glad you're cooking.

846
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 6>It's just an angry guy.

847
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Hey, why don't you chill out and have a sot

848
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 3>on yon.

849
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what you're trying to say. They're

850
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>for like both all three syllables. I'm glad you're cooking.

851
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I you don't sound glad. I wish I had recommended

852
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>it even harder.

853
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I wish I had recommended we spend a full hour

854
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to convince you. And I think for the record,

855
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that information went somewhere into the recis of

856
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Dan's brain and he did not acknowledge it, and he

857
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>may never acknowledge it. But you might have flipped the

858
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 2>switch that started his credit.

859
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I just want to it's not credit. It's like I

860
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I want to know my voice is heard.

861
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 4>It is in the moment, and then it's forgotten and

862
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:03.840
<v Speaker 4>then it comes back.

863
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 3>But I think it was my idea.

864
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you sit up straight, like bolt up right in

865
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night, be like I can cook.

866
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 3>No, I feel like I'm coming to these realizations by myself.

867
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:16.320
<v Speaker 2>That's how that I.

868
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Keep talking back to with you, Dan, is you keep

869
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>bringing things up or we recommend things. We're like, hey,

870
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this would be good for your life, and

871
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, add some like I think there's also a

872
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 1>meditative aspect to cooking that's really nice. Yeah, I think,

873
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>like I recommend those things because you've said before, I'm

874
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 1>good at recommending games and movies, Like I think I've

875
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe missed it once. You're great with recommendation. Yeah, yeah,

876
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're cooking. It's great.

877
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like an hour I was thinking that today

878
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 4>because it's like you can't just like my head is

879
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 4>usually in a million different places. I'm just thinking of

880
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 4>something stuffing my toe and I'm just like all over

881
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 4>the place, falling downstairs and shit.

882
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:54.559
<v Speaker 3>And it's like when you're cooking.

883
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 4>I got this sharp ass chef knife and I'm chopping

884
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 4>up the town working with her.

885
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 1>I have to be And it's like a sometimes that

886
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you can enjoy that you made. Are you great? I'm

887
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:08.679
<v Speaker 1>giving you one more chance to tell me you're fucking

888
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 1>with me, Mike.

889
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 4>I swear to fucking god, I am not fucking with you.

890
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.679
<v Speaker 4>I think Mary's right, and that, like I think people

891
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.280
<v Speaker 4>tell me that you accepted it in there, the part

892
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 4>of my brain that is conscious, I think forgets it immediately,

893
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 4>but I think there's some deeper part of my brain that,

894
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 4>like everything people are telling me, goes in there and

895
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:26.679
<v Speaker 4>sometimes just bubbles to the surface.

896
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:28.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, ooh, idea, you.

897
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Are the sparkle in the eye of a future better Dan.

898
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 2>You just don't know. That's not for you, you fucking idiot.

899
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>This is for he's just accepting my coffee's intercepting my compliment.

900
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>This is you are making him a better person over time.

901
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.920
<v Speaker 2>But you probably won't get credit for it. But that's

902
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 2>what friends do.

903
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:50.679
<v Speaker 3>Magine how much bunk does that?

904
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Like?

905
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.519
<v Speaker 4>It tells me a good idea. And then later I

906
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 4>just checked this thing out. I was like, I told

907
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 4>you that.

908
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Probably probably accepts you every day. She's probably just like, hey,

909
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was just thinking about how we should

910
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 2>flush the toilet every time we use it, and you're like,

911
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I don't know. Then who knows? Dan,

912
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm just using a hypothetical.

913
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Agent. I just know sometimes I think, like, I don't

914
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 1>think anybody should kill that neighbor I hate.

915
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, she's evil.

916
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Gets you to do yeah, yeah, yeah, I just like

917
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 1>to think like Bonk is like she's got to like us.

918
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 2>Thinking best things all about Like what is that?

919
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>That's? What was that? How much money do you think

920
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Giant bomb had? I'm just curious, how does it work?

921
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Have a safe right?

922
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious people this fandom? How many people like know?

923
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Who has codes to what accounts? You know? I don't know.

924
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Something to think about. At some point, fires.

925
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Has like a dec number. Listen, do you think Mike

926
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 1>really pays attention? Like what if? How long would it

927
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:03.679
<v Speaker 1>take him? How many a busy guy?

928
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

929
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, go to sleep.

930
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Good for you if you're cooking, it's just in thereby night, sweetheart.

931
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 1>H Well, I'm so glad that you're cooking. That's great.

932
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep doing it.

933
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:21.119
<v Speaker 4>It's evolved just in the months i've been doing it,

934
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 4>and I want to keep trying new stuff.

935
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, let me know if you need uh, well,

936
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't need any recipes, but I got some good ones. Yeah.

937
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 4>So it's fun looking stuff up and finding different ways

938
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 4>to do it, maybe really million different ways.

939
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five.

940
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 4>You can find them some soaking sweet potato fries and

941
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 4>bowls of ice to help you and get the start

942
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 4>shop and yeah, yeah, I also think you're.

943
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Never too old to learn. I think like that is

944
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 2>something that is a nice reflection of this place. Like

945
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.159
<v Speaker 2>I I hope everybody who has never cooked before or

946
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 2>like doesn't enjoy it, gets inspired to cook at some

947
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>point in their life and it's like, Okay, it turns

948
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:58.079
<v Speaker 2>out I actually do like cooking. For the first time

949
00:43:58.119 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>in my life, I made pasta from scratch. I went

950
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>to a course because I don't know what the fuck

951
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing, and they showed me what kind of flower

952
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.719
<v Speaker 2>to use, and to put an egg in it, and

953
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 2>to like knead it into a dough, and then I

954
00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 2>put it into a little machine and I cut it

955
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 2>out and I made posta. You can make little bow

956
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>tie pastas, and they teach you how to make bow ties,

957
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and they teach you how to make like boats and stuff.

958
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And so I made all these different little shapes and

959
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 2>then I ate them with delicious sauce and so uh,

960
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 2>this wasn't that long ago. I learned in mid February,

961
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and I made it again on my own at home,

962
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>just like last week I did. I bought it because

963
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 2>I liked the class so much. I have the extens

964
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 2>so I don't have the turn one. It's a machine

965
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:56.599
<v Speaker 2>that goes into my It's electric. It goes into a machine.

966
00:44:57.880 --> 00:44:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Toaster.

967
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You mean the pasta? Is it like an attachment for

968
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>another appliance? Is what you're saying.

969
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.519
<v Speaker 2>It's an attachment for another appliance.

970
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Probably not your toaster. I'm assuming I just.

971
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Hear an electric and appliance. And that was the first word.

972
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like having a composition with another adult. And like

973
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:22.599
<v Speaker 2>some ding dong that just walked into the room.

974
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't like huh blender, Like what Yeah,

975
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 1>now I'm trying to figure out.

976
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>The appliants the dough mixer.

977
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sure, like you're I know you're talking about. Yes,

978
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 1>it has a bowl to it, but yeah, I know

979
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about. That's cool.

980
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Kitchen.

981
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>What did you say.

982
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I bet you our listeners are screaming kitchen. It's a

983
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>kitchenaide and then it's an attachment for the KitchenAid and

984
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.679
<v Speaker 2>it automatical, but you still have to feed the dough

985
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 2>through it and you get to play with it and stuff. Dan,

986
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>you probably like making your own and it tastes better.

987
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 3>It tastes good, and I'm a big pasta guy. I

988
00:45:59.079 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 3>would like to try.

989
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.199
<v Speaker 2>You should make pasta. It's great.

990
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>It is a very very good idea. If you're like

991
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.760
<v Speaker 1>having people over, it's a great like several hours everybody

992
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 1>makes pasta together. You let it sit, you have some drinks,

993
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 1>and then by the time it's ready and have the

994
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 1>sauce going on the stove. It's a very fun like

995
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>dinner party thing where you're all active when.

996
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.480
<v Speaker 2>You eat it. Everybody gets rewarded at the end. And

997
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I think the food tastes better because you're like, I

998
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 2>put a lot of time and energy into this. So

999
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.599
<v Speaker 2>like he feels good when you eat it because you're like,

1000
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm made this.

1001
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I made a short rib ragou sauce with Popperdell from

1002
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the we have the crank has the second attachment, which

1003
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I've not used yet. It's got several pasta types that

1004
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of. We stick to, like popper Dell

1005
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>or Linguini or.

1006
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Could could you make the thing that we had at

1007
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:48.840
<v Speaker 4>that Dario restaurant?

1008
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 1>No one can twin. I wish you could probably figure. Yes,

1009
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>we have a ravioli maker, but it's a mold specifically

1010
00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>with the circular pockets. Okay, but yeah, if you get

1011
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 1>a ravioli tray, you just have to cut like wide

1012
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>enough dough and then you just let it sit and

1013
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 1>put some flower on its. It's very fun.

1014
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:08.239
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love it.

1015
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think.

1016
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 4>There's you know, I think a lot of people would

1017
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.119
<v Speaker 4>I come to something way later in life than I should.

1018
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 3>There's always hardly do know how.

1019
00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>To do this until then.

1020
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 4>For me, I am my age now, so I'm having

1021
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 4>the fun now, all the like discovery and like, oh

1022
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 4>this is fine.

1023
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 3>I like this thing. So to me, this is great.

1024
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, It's not like I don't think like, oh,

1025
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:27.280
<v Speaker 4>I could have been doing this for thirty years. It's

1026
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 4>like I'm going to do it now and it's fun.

1027
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.400
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you have like the beautiful mindset of like,

1028
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>well I didn't know what eggs were, and now you

1029
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>get to enjoy that experience of the egg way later

1030
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>on in life. I enjoy being fascinated by you. But

1031
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 2>this is not to harm you. I am just receiving

1032
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>my joy by seeing, like what is it like when

1033
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 2>a closet child has broccoli for the first time. I'm curious.

1034
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I think I can thank that for having a podcasting career,

1035
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 4>like a main topic for you.

1036
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 2>You need to be soul Dan Ryker, but we are

1037
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.000
<v Speaker 2>grateful to learn from you.

1038
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The thing I've saying earlier is that when I'm

1039
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:05.280
<v Speaker 1>recommending when I was recommending that you start cooking your

1040
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>your like response every time I brought it up, which

1041
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>was several many, he's throwing that last wee, It's no,

1042
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I meant it. I meant it. I remember these conversations

1043
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 1>said you said, like I don't know how like did

1044
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 1>any of this works. I'm like nobody did at first,

1045
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Like you did not know how to produce live streams

1046
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, you learned I didn't come out in

1047
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the hospital, we'd be like, oh, suvie, I.

1048
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.159
<v Speaker 4>Maybe this is a cop out excuse, but like, I

1049
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 4>don't think people understand enough how much of an influence,

1050
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 4>good and bad my father had on me.

1051
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Where it's like.

1052
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 4>Literally I get it, Like like within the last like

1053
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 4>year or two, he's asked me questions about like I

1054
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.679
<v Speaker 4>want to figure out, like I got a somebody gave

1055
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 4>me a slow cooker. I need something really low effort

1056
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 4>that I can make in it. And then like I

1057
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 4>forgot who was I think he puts this on social

1058
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 4>media and somebody was like, oh yeah, so you just

1059
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 4>got to like chop up and he's like no, no, no,

1060
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:00.960
<v Speaker 4>low effort. You're like idea of like chopping up a

1061
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 4>vegetable or something was like, I'm not going to get crazier.

1062
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:03.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not Emerald, you know.

1063
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 4>So it's like growing up, it was just mister frozen

1064
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 4>food and fast food and that was it. And mom

1065
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 4>was a waitress at night, so it's not like I

1066
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 4>was learning anything there with food stuff, So all I

1067
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.639
<v Speaker 4>knew was Totino's party pizzas and stuff like that. So

1068
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.960
<v Speaker 4>it's like this is new to me for a reason.

1069
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, reasons. I'm just saying every time you're like, well,

1070
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how people know how to do that,

1071
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and like you have again getting good at it. Yeah yeah,

1072
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I still have that.

1073
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Again. I'm still trying to scoop out all the props

1074
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 3>of my brain.

1075
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, all right, Well you guys want to talk

1076
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>about tariffs? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, we're back.

1077
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Mary has a fly that's annoying her. She's gonna busy

1078
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>herself with trying to snatch it.

1079
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 3>It's like the Breaking Bad episode.

1080
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like that high on meths.

1081
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

1082
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:01.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like makes a.

1083
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Lot of a bunch of parallels.

1084
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you think math is fun?

1085
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>But probably parallel?

1086
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Like, I know it's bad and it kills people and stuff,

1087
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:14.199
<v Speaker 4>but like when it's good, you think it's like really good.

1088
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I think most addictive drugs are good when they're good.

1089
00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that one made that's what makes them troublesome addictive.

1090
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what makes them addictive.

1091
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, math is very very fun. Yeah.

1092
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 3>By the way, this is a total aside that I

1093
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 3>just thought of.

1094
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I know specifically, Mike, I know you know this

1095
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 4>Instagram account, there's that like Norm McDonald's account that we

1096
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 4>we've constantly, you know, we've sent each other, you know,

1097
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 4>old norm bits back and forth from it.

1098
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen this ship going on with it? No?

1099
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, this is such niche dumb drama. It's like

1100
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>daughter or whatever.

1101
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 4>No, the granddaughter thing, yes, because it's like every other

1102
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:51.679
<v Speaker 4>post ever is just like here's a Norm clip from whatever.

1103
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 4>And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, Norm

1104
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 4>McDonald's daughter or granddaughter is doing only fans check the sense,

1105
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 4>Like what the is this? And also I know that

1106
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't have a granddaughter, And.

1107
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the fuck?

1108
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.360
<v Speaker 4>And I saw like all these people saying like unfollowed, unfollowed, unfollowed, unfollowed,

1109
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, okay, is this some shady like

1110
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.400
<v Speaker 4>bait and switch type thing? And I look back and

1111
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:11.199
<v Speaker 4>there was another one previously. So it was like one

1112
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:13.119
<v Speaker 4>of those shitty things where it's like, let's get a

1113
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 4>huge following by posting this thing that everyone loves, and

1114
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.280
<v Speaker 4>then we're gonna be like, oh, and also check out

1115
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:18.920
<v Speaker 4>this only fans.

1116
00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:19.800
<v Speaker 1>What fuck?

1117
00:51:20.119 --> 00:51:22.199
<v Speaker 4>Like I unfollowed it, It's like, man, it I like

1118
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 4>getting my Norm McDonald's stuff all the time. But it's like,

1119
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:26.920
<v Speaker 4>not if it's just gonna feed me some random only

1120
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 4>fans have you know.

1121
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Got the clips? Whoever made the account understood Norm's humor

1122
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:34.639
<v Speaker 1>because they were finding good clips.

1123
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 3>It was, yeah, great stuff.

1124
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>When he's talking to Adam he get He's like, so, yeah,

1125
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm a doctor the other day and yeh he said

1126
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, you uh, you got to stop eating like

1127
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 1>shit and you gotta lose weight or else you're gonna

1128
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.880
<v Speaker 1>have a heart attack. And then Adam he gets like, oh,

1129
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not funny. It's like, what do you mean it's

1130
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 1>not funny. I was expecting a joke. He's like, from

1131
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 1>my cardiologist, he's not a comedian.

1132
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1133
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 3>So I followed that.

1134
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 4>So if anyone wants to make a really great Norm

1135
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 4>McDonald daily Instagram account, I'll follow that.

1136
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Just don't bait and switch.

1137
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, get it, get it? Dan? What have you been playing?

1138
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We both did?

1139
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.880
<v Speaker 4>It looks like yeah, I played it a little bit.

1140
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 4>I played like four hours of it and you know what,

1141
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:22.280
<v Speaker 4>how was the series that?

1142
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:22.760
<v Speaker 3>What's that?

1143
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember? What? Like? What monster? You got to?

1144
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 4>I only a few Like it wasn't like I was

1145
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 4>doing the side stories and stuff like I did the

1146
00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.639
<v Speaker 4>first couple like kill the cattle tackletists and then kill

1147
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:34.679
<v Speaker 4>the this thing, and then kill six of these things,

1148
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 4>and then I started doing some optional ones. And that's

1149
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:40.199
<v Speaker 4>always been a series that I've struggled with because, like,

1150
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 4>I know, people love it. And I reviewed one back

1151
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 4>in the Day game and former I got kind of

1152
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 4>into worlds, like I played like fifty sixty hours of

1153
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 4>world so I was like, Okay, I'm kind of getting

1154
00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 4>what this is about here, and then this one, I

1155
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 4>don't know what, Like it just felt streamlined in a

1156
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.800
<v Speaker 4>way that like I want to at least feel like

1157
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.039
<v Speaker 4>if I'm playing this hunting game that I'm like go

1158
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 4>out into the wilds and you know, I'm like surviving,

1159
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 4>and like there is something about the cooking and prepping

1160
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 4>and stuff that I felt like in other games that

1161
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 4>would have annoyed me, but in this it felt right.

1162
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:11.519
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like, oh, oh, press up for a

1163
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 1>big like big excursion that is like has this gravitas

1164
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>to it.

1165
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And then this one it was just a lot

1166
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:19.599
<v Speaker 4>of like Okay, I'm gonna talk to people at the

1167
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:21.519
<v Speaker 4>base camp. Then I'm gonna hop on my ostrich and

1168
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:23.519
<v Speaker 4>then I'm gonna press the hey take me to the

1169
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.800
<v Speaker 4>thing button and then it's just like a bunch of

1170
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 4>just like the like walk and talk stuff where it's

1171
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 4>like I was like, oh, here's the part where I

1172
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.920
<v Speaker 4>get to like go out into this like big world.

1173
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:33.760
<v Speaker 4>It was like, no, it just takes me straight to

1174
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 4>like my guy hops in a very specific way across

1175
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 4>these specific rocks and then takes me to this thing

1176
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:40.519
<v Speaker 4>and I'm just shooting a slingshot at things that I

1177
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know what they do and collecting a bunch of

1178
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 4>shit that I don't know what it does, and like

1179
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 4>did I get there and say, Okay, the combat's good?

1180
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Like I like the combat of just like and the

1181
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 4>stuff with the wounds and how you can like pull

1182
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 4>this button to kind of focus in on like that's

1183
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:53.159
<v Speaker 4>where he's hurt, and then I can like do a

1184
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:55.599
<v Speaker 4>bunch of damage if I do. Like that part felt good,

1185
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 4>the hunting, but then everything around it was just kind

1186
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 4>of like they seem to simultaneously be trying to streamline

1187
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 4>it to be accessible to new people, but also it's

1188
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.960
<v Speaker 4>still retained a bunch of extra shit that like my

1189
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 4>understanding is that like people are like, oh, you don't

1190
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 4>have to pay attention this, You don't have to pay

1191
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 4>attention this, Like well, yeah, but when I'm playing a game,

1192
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.199
<v Speaker 4>I would like to understand the stuff I'm doing. So

1193
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 4>if it's giving me a million things and introducing a

1194
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.719
<v Speaker 4>million systems, I don't really care if it's like, oh,

1195
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 4>you don't need to worry about it, because I'm gonna

1196
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:25.840
<v Speaker 4>want to figure it out. And it's just it just

1197
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 4>seemed weirdly put together in a way that I wasn't enjoying.

1198
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 4>So I don't feel the need to keep playing this.

1199
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a very oddly paced game, because yeah,

1200
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>there is a weird amount of story up front with

1201
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 1>like several side characters, and you're doing walking talks and

1202
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.840
<v Speaker 1>know you lost your secretees back to the village they

1203
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.760
<v Speaker 1>came from, and then all of a sudden you don't

1204
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>have them. You're like, oh, maybe they're just going to

1205
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>make this like an arduous journey now they don't have

1206
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 1>It's like, nope, you'll get it soon enough. And then

1207
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you're hopping around these stone pillars

1208
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned. But also, I still don't think they

1209
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 1>figured out what they need to tutorialize because there's still

1210
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.679
<v Speaker 1>a certain things. And I play a decent amount of

1211
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Rise the one after World, and I still in this one.

1212
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, wait a minute, Uh, why don't I

1213
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:09.800
<v Speaker 1>have Amo? Oh right, I didn't manually take it from

1214
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the tent? How do I switch? How do I have

1215
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 1>my other weapon? Oh? I got to board my mount

1216
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>my ostrich again. The two weapons thing is cool, but

1217
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 1>now it doesn't. I almost see why they didn't let

1218
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 1>you do that in past games, because now it doesn't

1219
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 1>feel as dangerous and like you're not locked into one weapon. Yeah.

1220
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I like so much of the It feels good on

1221
00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a second moment to moment basis when you are actually

1222
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 1>in combat. But yeah, like getting around the world so quickly,

1223
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.119
<v Speaker 1>it's just I feel like a tourist more than an

1224
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>actual like hunter there.

1225
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's just not well put together in terms

1226
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:45.039
<v Speaker 4>of like if you're trying to bring in new people,

1227
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:46.679
<v Speaker 4>Like there was a thing at the camp at the

1228
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 4>beginning where they were like, hey, let's pick a weapon.

1229
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's fourteen weapons, whatever, let's figure out what

1230
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 4>works best for you. Do you want to get in

1231
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 4>close or do you want to focus on defense do

1232
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 4>you want to be high flying? And so I was

1233
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.239
<v Speaker 4>like picking all this stuff and it's like, oh smart,

1234
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 4>They're going to like kind of like suggest something for

1235
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 4>me as a newer player. That's gonna be a good

1236
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.280
<v Speaker 4>way for me to not have this choice paralysis. And

1237
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 4>so I answered these things and they were like, you

1238
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 4>should use the insect glave and I got it.

1239
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, what, I have to send

1240
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 3>this bug.

1241
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Out and it harvests and then I can also like, Okay,

1242
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I like the mobility stuff, but what the fuck is

1243
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.039
<v Speaker 4>this bug? And I was describing this on Giant Bomb

1244
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 4>and I saw people being like, oh, you picked the

1245
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 4>most confusing weapon. It's like, what question the tutorial ship Like, I,

1246
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 4>it's not my fault is not.

1247
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes. I was gonna say, if you answer very if

1248
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>they're giving you, like what's the what was the website

1249
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 1>that was famous for those quizzes for a while, then

1250
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 1>it went to news No, then it went to news

1251
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:40.119
<v Speaker 1>people are.

1252
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 2>You know it must be Sparkle. I think he's talking

1253
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>about Sparkle.

1254
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>It'll kind of it's a thing if if you're answering

1255
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 1>like a sparking level of quiz and they give you

1256
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the most complicated weapon as a recommendation. That's their problem,

1257
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:52.719
<v Speaker 1>not yours.

1258
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:56.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, I am like, yeah yeah, they talk about

1259
00:56:56.960 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 4>like you know, because that was the thing. That's why

1260
00:56:58.159 --> 00:56:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I played World and give it a shot, is because

1261
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:01.079
<v Speaker 4>they said, like, this is gonna be the good one

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00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.280
<v Speaker 4>for like newcomers, and and I did butt my head

1263
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 4>against a bunch of stuff that didn't make sense back

1264
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:07.920
<v Speaker 4>then eventually got it, and I'm sure I would with

1265
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 4>this as well, but like, I don't know if this

1266
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.960
<v Speaker 4>is supposed to be this like streamlined good for new

1267
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:16.639
<v Speaker 4>people thing and I'm gone in here goddamn, oh yeah,

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00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 4>oh right right, yeah, it's I just don't think it's

1269
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 4>really succeeding at what it's trying to do if like,

1270
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 4>and I also don't understand like it's just a weird

1271
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 4>reaction this game because they did very well on like

1272
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Metacritic and a lot of reviews. But I feel like

1273
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.239
<v Speaker 4>a lot of newcomers or you know, casuals like me,

1274
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 4>and then also a bunch of a hardcore monster under

1275
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 4>people don't seem happy with it.

1276
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 3>So it's like what is going to.

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00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Are you playing on this gable or are you yourself?

1278
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel very fortunate that my very first Monster Hunter

1279
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.159
<v Speaker 2>was Monster Hunter four Ultimate, which you could play on

1280
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 2>a three DS, but I think you could also play

1281
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 2>it on the WU and it had cross play, so

1282
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I played it on the WU while like somebody else

1283
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:55.320
<v Speaker 2>would play it on the three DS, and we played

1284
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 2>it together in the same world, and so we were

1285
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 2>both like you, I'm gonna do bow and arrow so

1286
00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I can be more range, and you'll be the person

1287
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.039
<v Speaker 2>with the shield and the hammer, and so you'll be

1288
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the clothes damage. And it got a little RPG for

1289
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 2>me where I was like, I'm a huntress and I'm

1290
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:19.360
<v Speaker 2>covered in feathers, and like I really want this other armor.

1291
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>So like let's go, but I'm gonna have like a

1292
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.159
<v Speaker 2>cheesy bun before we leave because it's gonna make me

1293
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.159
<v Speaker 2>a little faster, you know. And so like I would,

1294
00:58:26.199 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>I got really into the cooking aspect of it, and

1295
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I got really I got really excited about like building

1296
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 2>my character and having the right set up for like

1297
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the very particular bird we were gonna kill, et cetera,

1298
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:42.000
<v Speaker 2>et cetera that was sick, and I got it. It

1299
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:43.440
<v Speaker 2>was like the first time where I was like I

1300
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>get why people fucking are obsessed with this game because

1301
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 2>you can really get immersed in the world of figuring

1302
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.079
<v Speaker 2>out what food you want, which armor set you're interested in,

1303
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 2>which which dude you're gonna take down, and then it

1304
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:58.920
<v Speaker 2>takes an hour to get out there and kill the

1305
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:02.760
<v Speaker 2>dang thing. But it's very fun to have that experience.

1306
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I have not played this one, so I'm I'm very interested,

1307
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's a bummer that. Like, I don't think the

1308
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.960
<v Speaker 2>point of it is to streamline or to even be

1309
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 2>accessible for newcomers. I don't think that's the point. I

1310
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think. I don't think like Dark Souls was ever, like,

1311
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.159
<v Speaker 2>how do we make this easier for new people? It's

1312
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to make the game that you want to make.

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00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I would say Dark Souls is maybe the like Dark

1314
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:28.679
<v Speaker 1>from Software is probably the best developer ever at nonverbally

1315
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>communicating how things work. I think Monster Hunter can't find

1316
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>the middle ground of like here are some things that

1317
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:38.119
<v Speaker 1>are worth keeping a very high skill ceiling on, and

1318
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:41.239
<v Speaker 1>here are some things foundational things that would help people

1319
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:45.239
<v Speaker 1>start the learning process when you're getting given a new

1320
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:47.559
<v Speaker 1>weapon right away. In that games like I went Sword

1321
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and Shield and the Lance Lance is a bit more complicated,

1322
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:56.679
<v Speaker 1>but I still think they could do. They could streamline

1323
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the weapon tatorials a bit earlier on rather instead of

1324
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.199
<v Speaker 1>just giving you a dummy to hit and showing you

1325
01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.760
<v Speaker 1>these combos that you still they don't tell you the

1326
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 1>exact timing that you need to use to pull them off,

1327
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>so you're kind of just experimenting, which can be fun.

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01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.360
<v Speaker 1>But then all of a sudden, Yeah, it's a walk

1329
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and talk, and then you're moving really quickly to the

1330
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>next monster and you fight a big monster that they

1331
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.119
<v Speaker 1>built up to and it's cool as shit. But now

1332
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you're like, all right, well, I'm back at the camp.

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01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I learned anything worthwhile there.

1334
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:23.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they give you some tools that are nice

1335
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:25.280
<v Speaker 4>where it's like I spend some time with like you

1336
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 4>talk about the dummy and the camp, and it's like

1337
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 4>it's this kind of like big machine thing and you

1338
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:30.599
<v Speaker 4>can set it like, Okay, do I want this thing

1339
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:32.360
<v Speaker 4>to just sit there and I can practice my combos?

1340
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:34.039
<v Speaker 4>Or do I want it to move around and attack

1341
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 4>me and I can practice defense and stuff like that.

1342
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 4>So like it has some tools where you can try

1343
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 4>that stuff out, but it's still super fucking overwhelming. Like

1344
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 4>every time I try out a new weapon, it's like,

1345
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.360
<v Speaker 4>all right, I'm gonna try why and b and see

1346
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.079
<v Speaker 4>what happens. But then like in the middle of the animation,

1347
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 4>you'll see six different things in the corner that you

1348
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:50.360
<v Speaker 4>can do or it's like after blade dance do that.

1349
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 3>It's just like, it's it's a lot.

1350
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure if you want to dig super fucking deep,

1351
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 4>if this is your game, Like, I'm sure, it's great

1352
01:00:56.760 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 4>to have that many options, but it's still really overwhelming.

1353
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 4>Who hasn't played that many games?

1354
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I think playing with buds is the way to go,

1355
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.800
<v Speaker 2>like playing with another person that will guide you, they

1356
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 2>will protect you, like.

1357
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Learn some stuff. It's it's extremely fun. That series is

1358
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.079
<v Speaker 1>very fun co op and I I love the depth

1359
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of it. Again, I love the high scale ceiling. I

1360
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 1>just think they did choose to streamline weird parts here.

1361
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 3>It's clearly a well made game.

1362
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:25.119
<v Speaker 4>It's one of those things where it's like I'm not

1363
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.320
<v Speaker 4>gonna come shit on it or anything like that, but

1364
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:28.840
<v Speaker 4>it's like I play it and I try it, and

1365
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, I I just don't think this is

1366
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 4>for me.

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01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, I'm gonna keep playing it for the

1368
01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 1>time being, I don't I haven't played any other I'm

1369
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 1>not actually only the other playing. Oh my god, I

1370
01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>can't talk. The only other game I'm playing is Avowed

1371
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 1>right now, dan't on you finished it, Mary, you played

1372
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:49.400
<v Speaker 1>more of it, and curious what you think now, because

1373
01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you seem sort of like you weren't positive what you

1374
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:52.960
<v Speaker 1>thought yet.

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01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Last Yeah, I was on the fence because there's a

1376
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of talkie in that game. My side characters will

1377
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:02.119
<v Speaker 2>not shut the fuck up about like their problems and issues,

1378
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and like I don't really care about them. But I

1379
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:12.800
<v Speaker 2>did like solving crazy mysteries and finding random stuff in

1380
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:17.199
<v Speaker 2>the world, and I liked the parkoer and I I

1381
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.880
<v Speaker 2>played more in the last six hours. I am a

1382
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:26.360
<v Speaker 2>parkour junkie. Actually really like the climbing aspect of it.

1383
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of just like old school games where

1384
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like, solve it the way you want, here's a

1385
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:36.320
<v Speaker 2>giant building, figure it out. I had this I had

1386
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.400
<v Speaker 2>this like quest where it was like there's been a

1387
01:02:39.519 --> 01:02:41.519
<v Speaker 2>murder and you have to figure it out. I ended

1388
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:44.880
<v Speaker 2>up like climbing through like the backyard and then the roof,

1389
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and because I was able to do that. I got

1390
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to like see the people in the action before it happened.

1391
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 2>It was sick. It was really fun experience just climbing

1392
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 2>these buildings and like finding these secrets that I swear

1393
01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I would not have gotten that ending if I didn't

1394
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:03.599
<v Speaker 2>and figure out the climbing part of it. It's unique

1395
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 2>to this game. I mean, I just I think it's

1396
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.599
<v Speaker 2>really cool that they're giving me physical puzzles to solve.

1397
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 2>And because I haven't played a lot of other games

1398
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 2>of this nature, I compare it to like tomb Raider,

1399
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:15.159
<v Speaker 2>but it's sick.

1400
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1401
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 2>When you're solving puzzles physically by how do I get there?

1402
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:23.239
<v Speaker 2>That is something I'm like really into.

1403
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 4>I think this game does that stuff, like the Parker

1404
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:27.960
<v Speaker 4>stuff especially well, because like there, I don't just like

1405
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Parkop for the sake of parkerp Like I know that's

1406
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:31.599
<v Speaker 4>a big part of like Dying Light, and I do

1407
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:33.599
<v Speaker 4>not like those games. I didn't like Mirrors Edge as

1408
01:03:33.639 --> 01:03:36.000
<v Speaker 4>much as people like that. This one, like it does

1409
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 4>feel like like the Parkore on a mechanical level feels good,

1410
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.480
<v Speaker 4>but more importantly, it does feel like you're rewarded for it,

1411
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 4>and that there is like a fun search for it,

1412
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.159
<v Speaker 4>and it's like an open game. It's so cool to

1413
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:49.360
<v Speaker 4>just see something high up and be like, oh, I

1414
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 4>know there's probably like I'm supposed to going through this entrance,

1415
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:52.519
<v Speaker 4>but I wonder if I can just get over this

1416
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:54.079
<v Speaker 4>ridge here. I wonder if I get at the very

1417
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 4>tip top of this tower, and it's it really encourages

1418
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:01.000
<v Speaker 4>you to do that, and asted Yeah, there's always a

1419
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:03.400
<v Speaker 4>chest for something. There's always pretty stuff or an interesting story.

1420
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I think a skeleton with a note by it. And

1421
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 4>then there's like amulets and stuff that are like plus

1422
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 4>thirty percent part core speed and things like that. Or

1423
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:11.639
<v Speaker 4>you can get like magic abilities that like speed up

1424
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:13.880
<v Speaker 4>all your you know, movement abilities, and you can really

1425
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 4>feel like you're just like sprinting around, clamber and up

1426
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 4>stuff and everything like it feels great in that game.

1427
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a I've played a decent amount now, not

1428
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a ton six hours in. Maybe I'm love how simple

1429
01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and satisfying the combat can be, but there is enough

1430
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.280
<v Speaker 1>depth there where I never get bored. Like they found

1431
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:35.039
<v Speaker 1>just the right balance between just like crunchy and straightforward.

1432
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's as complicated as I want it to be.

1433
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I've just been going spear in one hand and Spellbook

1434
01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Grimoire in the other, which is super fun because then

1435
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:46.519
<v Speaker 1>I have like elemental shit that like I can keep

1436
01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:49.920
<v Speaker 1>people at a distance, I'm fast where I can dodge,

1437
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm liking the game in the sense that it

1438
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.199
<v Speaker 1>gets out of its way as an RPG, like there's

1439
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 1>talkie stuff, but at least it's like it's still, at

1440
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:03.320
<v Speaker 1>least as far as I am in the game, it's

1441
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:07.559
<v Speaker 1>still pretty tasteful how much everything lasts. It's also got

1442
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:09.880
<v Speaker 1>as a thing of like there's enough skill checks in

1443
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the conversation where like it keeps be just engaged enough.

1444
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:21.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not even a complaint really sometimes the world design. Again,

1445
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:23.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe this changes later in the game, but right now

1446
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm still in the the areas where it's like it's

1447
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 1>more zones with branching paths out of them. I see

1448
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.480
<v Speaker 1>why something like Skyrim works so well. That's not what

1449
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:39.280
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to make exactly here. It's not a completely

1450
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.400
<v Speaker 1>open world that you can go in any direction and

1451
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.039
<v Speaker 1>find something on your compass. It's oh, there's a cave

1452
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:46.000
<v Speaker 1>up there on that cliff. I'm going to go explore

1453
01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that and then come out Oh, I have a bunch

1454
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.360
<v Speaker 1>of side quests to pursue. Oh, there's a little like

1455
01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 1>to the northeast on my map. I haven't explored that yet,

1456
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 1>let's go check it out. I'm almost like, there's too

1457
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:59.920
<v Speaker 1>many directions. I'm sorry, not not too many directions. There's

1458
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 1>there's so many directions I can go at once that

1459
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:07.480
<v Speaker 1>once I do, they don't feel as consequential as they

1460
01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 1>would in something like Skyrim or Breath of the Wild,

1461
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 1>where everything I do is this kind of like surprising

1462
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:18.880
<v Speaker 1>mini adventure. But again, the game is peppering everything with

1463
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:22.280
<v Speaker 1>so many mini challenges and like new loot that has

1464
01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:25.239
<v Speaker 1>this actual effect on the way I play the game.

1465
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And then there's a bunch of like interesting enemy mobs.

1466
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Now is a mini boss popping up. It really just

1467
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:34.119
<v Speaker 1>keeps me hooked every step of the way. It doesn't

1468
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:37.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like the most organic exploration, but that's fine, that's

1469
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>not what it's trying to do. I don't think.

1470
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's compartmentalized a bit where it's like, you know,

1471
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:44.280
<v Speaker 4>we've talked about Tears the Kingdom and stuff where it's like,

1472
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.599
<v Speaker 4>oh my god, you go underneath the ground and there's

1473
01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 4>this giant fucking map that's as big as the overworld

1474
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 4>and I got to find all this stuff. Like that's overwhelming,

1475
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 4>like in a good way. I mean, obviously the game

1476
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:55.920
<v Speaker 4>did it very well this one. I kind of like

1477
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.639
<v Speaker 4>the fact that it's like, all right, I'm gonna do

1478
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:01.400
<v Speaker 4>every fucking thing in the old stare before I move

1479
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 4>on to the.

1480
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Next area, and you can, you can.

1481
01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:04.519
<v Speaker 1>You can, yeah, you can.

1482
01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 4>You can make it so there's not a single open

1483
01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:08.480
<v Speaker 4>quest on that quest log. It's not like, you know,

1484
01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:10.840
<v Speaker 4>like I love Skyrim, I love Fallout, but like you

1485
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.920
<v Speaker 4>will just amass dozens of quests and like, I've definitely

1486
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.400
<v Speaker 4>never like one hundred percent of every quest in one

1487
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 4>of those games.

1488
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:19.280
<v Speaker 3>With this, I think I almost did every single thing.

1489
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.360
<v Speaker 2>That's really cool. I do think there are some big

1490
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:23.960
<v Speaker 2>ones that might shock you. I forget what world it's in,

1491
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and I talked about it on the last episode, but

1492
01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I did a side quest where guy was like, I

1493
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 2>went on a quest with my brother and we were

1494
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna die, so I left, but my brother's still there.

1495
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Can you go get him? If you see that quest,

1496
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>do it because that's a sick quest and it does

1497
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of really cool shit.

1498
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Under there is the one with a brother who's a virgin.

1499
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I.

1500
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And it kept going, like it just keeps going and

1501
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:51.360
<v Speaker 2>the world there's it is an under first of all,

1502
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it is an underground area like in a cave, and

1503
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:56.920
<v Speaker 2>then the cave there's systems and it's really cool. I

1504
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.559
<v Speaker 2>started it, and Okay, well I want to like there's

1505
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:02.480
<v Speaker 2>like a god down there, like there's a lot of

1506
01:08:02.519 --> 01:08:03.280
<v Speaker 2>shit in there.

1507
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, that one's awesome.

1508
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:09.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like the entire map from remember the Forbidden City

1509
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago? Oh yeah, time Loop game.

1510
01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:14.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like they put that entire game underground and there's

1511
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:16.439
<v Speaker 1>a whole Yeah, the guy's been down there doing experiments

1512
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:18.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's other this other wizard that has been like

1513
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 1>corresponding with him. I'm sitting so good at that environmental

1514
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:23.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of like.

1515
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>They did it. It's foreshadowing, right, foreshadowing and like kind

1516
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 2>of guiding you of like what to do. And what's

1517
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:31.039
<v Speaker 2>really cool about that one. That's like the first time

1518
01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:34.399
<v Speaker 2>in any of these games ever where I was like, oh,

1519
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I made the wrong call. I like destroyed

1520
01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:41.079
<v Speaker 2>the god set up because I was like this seems evil.

1521
01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:43.439
<v Speaker 2>But I was like I actually think there's a different

1522
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.880
<v Speaker 2>ending here. I went back in time, like thirty five

1523
01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:49.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking minutes. I did it all over again, but I

1524
01:08:49.600 --> 01:08:52.439
<v Speaker 2>completed it, and I finished it instead of destroying it,

1525
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and it was a really cool ending, and I was like, Oh,

1526
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.840
<v Speaker 2>that's actually exactly what these games are meant to do.

1527
01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like I had the power in me of all

1528
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the time and just going backwards and like tweaking my choices,

1529
01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I was able to see this like really cool different

1530
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:12.279
<v Speaker 2>version of the story. And I walked away from that

1531
01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.479
<v Speaker 2>like a changed person. I was kind of going into

1532
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.159
<v Speaker 2>that session of avowed being like I don't know exactly

1533
01:09:18.239 --> 01:09:20.399
<v Speaker 2>what Dan sees in it, but like we'll figure it out.

1534
01:09:20.439 --> 01:09:22.840
<v Speaker 2>And I walked away and I was like, oh shit,

1535
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:25.640
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, this game is duck cool.

1536
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, it's the most I'm I'm more excited to

1537
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.439
<v Speaker 1>play that than Monster Hunter Wild's after this or whenever it's.

1538
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It's the most eager to get back to a game

1539
01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I've been in a long time and.

1540
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 4>I can't win the last time I've had a game

1541
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 4>where it's like I am doing like eight hour sessions

1542
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:44.960
<v Speaker 4>of this game, I am up till player four in

1543
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:46.960
<v Speaker 4>the morning, because I just want to keep seeing the

1544
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.319
<v Speaker 4>next thing like I while else has been that that indocith.

1545
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for you. I'm glad that you had.

1546
01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question, like, because a lot

1547
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:58.039
<v Speaker 2>of times, much like Lost, you might enjoy the journey,

1548
01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.199
<v Speaker 2>but if the end isn't good, you might be like,

1549
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.399
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? You guys didn't answer any of these questions.

1550
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:03.920
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of questions in that game. I have

1551
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:06.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions about why I'm a and I

1552
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:08.359
<v Speaker 2>would like to know if you were satisfied, not literally

1553
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 2>absolutely satisfied.

1554
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:13.439
<v Speaker 4>I was absolutely satisfied with the overall like story, conclusion, everything,

1555
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 4>and also I was very satisfied and surprised by some

1556
01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 4>of the stuff that, like, you know, sometimes it's very obvious,

1557
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.479
<v Speaker 4>like you know, like Fallout three, are you gonna make

1558
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:20.760
<v Speaker 4>a ton?

1559
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

1560
01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:22.800
<v Speaker 4>Like that type of stuff where it's like, well, this

1561
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 4>is a pretty big decision. You know, there were things

1562
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:27.000
<v Speaker 4>that it was alluding to at the end. There's definitely

1563
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:29.000
<v Speaker 4>like us at the end a thing where it's like,

1564
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:31.680
<v Speaker 4>here's the consequences of your actions and you kind of

1565
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.239
<v Speaker 4>see all this stuff, and I learned things that like, oh,

1566
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:36.079
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was just a part of the story.

1567
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:38.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize it could have gone a different way. Right,

1568
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 4>I'll speak generally here, but there is a part where

1569
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:45.039
<v Speaker 4>like a big thing happens to an area in the

1570
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.079
<v Speaker 4>game that is like, oh God, this area got fucked

1571
01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 4>up or whatever, and I just thought that was a

1572
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:53.119
<v Speaker 4>scripted thing, and then I found out, oh, I could

1573
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:55.560
<v Speaker 4>have avoided that if in this one specific thing where

1574
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.720
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't It wasn't they clearly spelled out thing where

1575
01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:00.840
<v Speaker 4>it's like do you want to do or good thing?

1576
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 4>It was just like it was a gameplay thing, even

1577
01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:05.560
<v Speaker 4>where it's like, oh, did you do things this way

1578
01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:06.720
<v Speaker 4>or did he do things that way?

1579
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:08.600
<v Speaker 3>And you could have saved this area.

1580
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.199
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, holy shit, Because like most of myself

1581
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.000
<v Speaker 4>was all like the positive stuff. I was very happy

1582
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 4>with my decisions. Certain things I didn't even realize would

1583
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:17.079
<v Speaker 4>have impacts had huge impacts.

1584
01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's cool.

1585
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I sing that too. In our worlds as well.

1586
01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I've had a couple of those as well, where it

1587
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 2>wasn't necessarily whether or not it was wrong or right.

1588
01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:29.399
<v Speaker 2>One in the first area, there was a lady bringing

1589
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a cart in and the government stopped her and they

1590
01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.880
<v Speaker 2>were like, well, you search her cart and I saw

1591
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a grenade in the cart, and so I was like,

1592
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.039
<v Speaker 2>this lady's a terrorist. That was my instinct, and so

1593
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.159
<v Speaker 2>I told him and called her out. It turns out

1594
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 2>like so she went to jail, and I was like,

1595
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I did the right thing. But then for the rest

1596
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.880
<v Speaker 2>of that area, the police were like thanks a lot

1597
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for helping us take out these terrible savages, and I

1598
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, that sounds a little bad.

1599
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.680
<v Speaker 6>And all and all the people who are trying to

1600
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:03.199
<v Speaker 6>help help the poor people are like we hate you.

1601
01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:05.199
<v Speaker 6>You're like yeah with the police, and I was like

1602
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:08.359
<v Speaker 6>I never meant to be properly, like I went down

1603
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:09.439
<v Speaker 6>this terrible path.

1604
01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 4>That one's so smart because it's early enough towards like

1605
01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:14.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, it becomes pretty apparent pretty quick that like

1606
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:17.159
<v Speaker 4>the Adyrians that you represent the stuff are like you

1607
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:19.800
<v Speaker 4>kind of this evil empire, you know. But like earlier,

1608
01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:21.319
<v Speaker 4>that was like one of the first things I ran

1609
01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:22.880
<v Speaker 4>into and I was like, aw, that's a terrorist.

1610
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Grenades are bad, and she's down something.

1611
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, every other decision I made later it was like, yeah,

1612
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:37.000
<v Speaker 4>I was like anti Adirrians with everything going forward, but

1613
01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 4>at that moment in the game. I was like, but

1614
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:40.960
<v Speaker 4>you're right, Mary, like I had the exact same experience

1615
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:42.520
<v Speaker 4>where like, oh man, I feel bad about that.

1616
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, Mary, you probably you probably you know reported that

1617
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:48.000
<v Speaker 3>woman for trying to get contraceptives.

1618
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, anti contra anti grenades, stay in there, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1619
01:12:57.520 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm always trying to hold women down, and I I

1620
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:03.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like I never support them. There was another one

1621
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:07.680
<v Speaker 2>in the second area where someone said there's something at

1622
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:10.520
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of this lake and it is pretty nice,

1623
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:14.720
<v Speaker 2>but it's also very coveted, so like everyone's gonna want it.

1624
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, bitch, I'm going down there.

1625
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And I swam to the bottom of that lake and

1626
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:23.359
<v Speaker 2>I got that gemstone and then all these fucking skeletons

1627
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:26.039
<v Speaker 2>came out of the woodwork and they have been trying

1628
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to kill me since. I still don't really understand the

1629
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:30.960
<v Speaker 2>facets of that one, but I think if I knew,

1630
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:34.039
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it was worth getting that gem because

1631
01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I just keep getting fucking shot by skeletons. I cannot

1632
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:39.239
<v Speaker 2>get away from these skeletons.

1633
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:41.680
<v Speaker 3>This game kicks ass, and it really does.

1634
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:42.600
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good.

1635
01:13:43.239 --> 01:13:45.000
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I said, I did pretty much everything,

1636
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:46.920
<v Speaker 4>and I wound up beating it in like fifty two

1637
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:48.960
<v Speaker 4>to fifty three hours, which, like I think that's awesome. Though,

1638
01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Like you could beat the game if you want to

1639
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 4>just kind of mainline the story do in like thirty

1640
01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:54.279
<v Speaker 4>hours probably, And if you want to do everything, you know,

1641
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 4>fifty to fifty something. It's that's a very reasonable amount,

1642
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, Like I'm not, again sta a huge spread.

1643
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:01.800
<v Speaker 4>If I'm loving something like a breadth the wild, like

1644
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll put one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty

1645
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:05.159
<v Speaker 4>hours into it. But like I felt like this was

1646
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:07.279
<v Speaker 4>exactly the right amount of time. I feel like if

1647
01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:09.439
<v Speaker 4>this had stretched on more, I might have fallen off

1648
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 4>or gotten tired of it or just prayed for it

1649
01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:11.279
<v Speaker 4>to end.

1650
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I was happy the whole way through this game. Loved it.

1651
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to. I'm gonna play much more. I

1652
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:21.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't even gotten out of the first major area yet.

1653
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh nice, there's so much good.

1654
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:24.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And like each of the areas does feel very

1655
01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 4>distinct from each other, Like, Mary, are you on the

1656
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:28.000
<v Speaker 4>second or third area?

1657
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I must be on at least to the second area,

1658
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 2>But I think I'm getting finished with that. I might

1659
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 2>be headed to the well. Actually I don't know. Is

1660
01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the third area I'm in like an area where the

1661
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:40.079
<v Speaker 2>crops are all dying?

1662
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Is it the animancy stuff and the like the crops

1663
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:44.680
<v Speaker 4>and the yo gets here in the second area and

1664
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:45.399
<v Speaker 4>the Emerald stare.

1665
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I'm at the second I'm at the end

1666
01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:48.279
<v Speaker 2>of the second area.

1667
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Then there's plenty of good stuff to come.

1668
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. It's been it's been fun. I've enjoyed the ride.

1669
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And to Mike's point, when I think about a new

1670
01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.680
<v Speaker 2>game and everybody's talking about Monster Hunter, there's like, you know,

1671
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:03.319
<v Speaker 2>back and forth about it, and I have this sick

1672
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:07.680
<v Speaker 2>game in my living room I'm interested in playing about,

1673
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Like that's what I will play probably when we finished

1674
01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:13.560
<v Speaker 2>recording tonight. It's maybe it's just low pressure. I just

1675
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:15.840
<v Speaker 2>know I'll enjoy it. It's a good story.

1676
01:15:17.760 --> 01:15:18.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1677
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm having fun. I made my character really hot and

1678
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I like looking at them.

1679
01:15:22.439 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, got some weird fungus growing.

1680
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Really so fucking hot with my fungus.

1681
01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:34.159
<v Speaker 1>You gotta see my character. I picked the what is

1682
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 1>it called the god Touched. Yeah, I did as much

1683
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of that ship on my face as possible. I did

1684
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the one mushrooms the fungus mushrooms out of my eyes.

1685
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.920
<v Speaker 3>So I did the most like a couple little red

1686
01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 3>spots on my cheeks that.

1687
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I was grown out of micro bus.

1688
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:51.279
<v Speaker 1>So anytime they're talking to me, it comes back, and

1689
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just.

1690
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Like, everyone can't stop it, and you know what's funny?

1691
01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:00.880
<v Speaker 1>And they squelch every time I blink. It's and I see.

1692
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.279
<v Speaker 2>The NPC that's in the jail cell. And the first

1693
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.439
<v Speaker 2>thing she says to you was like they say you're

1694
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.039
<v Speaker 2>God touched, but like I wouldn't say that by looking

1695
01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 2>at you, and I was just like, how dare you?

1696
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm hot?

1697
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Mine was minimal.

1698
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I went as overboard as you can.

1699
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

1700
01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 1>It's it's annihilation ship, Tessa Thompson relation ship.

1701
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:28.560
<v Speaker 2>That's really like right up your alley visually.

1702
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I love the speaking of are you playing Pirate Yakuza

1703
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:36.239
<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii?

1704
01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Uh No, I'm Yakuza is a weird thing with me

1705
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.479
<v Speaker 4>where it's like I have nothing but respect for that

1706
01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 4>series of like how fucking weird it is? It almost

1707
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:49.600
<v Speaker 4>like stricks like metal gear mix of like deadly serious

1708
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:52.800
<v Speaker 4>with also the dumbest shit you've ever seen, Like I

1709
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:53.439
<v Speaker 4>really do.

1710
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:55.399
<v Speaker 3>I like that serious a lot.

1711
01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 4>I maybe I like the idea of it more than

1712
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.720
<v Speaker 4>I enjoy playing it, although the turnament stuff.

1713
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:03.520
<v Speaker 3>I didn't beat it.

1714
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:04.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean I played like forty hours of it, and

1715
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.479
<v Speaker 4>it's like there's another forty Like I don't know. It's

1716
01:17:07.520 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 4>a game I didn't want to spend eighty hours play. Yes, certainly, yeah,

1717
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I I like those games. I don't need to play

1718
01:17:13.880 --> 01:17:14.119
<v Speaker 4>them all.

1719
01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:16.479
<v Speaker 1>No, you don't have to justify. I was mainly curious

1720
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 1>because it's like the game title just seems like something

1721
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that you would love, Like I love that they did that.

1722
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:24.239
<v Speaker 4>I think that's great. But yeah, also, like pirate stuff,

1723
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 4>never really did it for me. I don't really care

1724
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:27.000
<v Speaker 4>about pirate stuff.

1725
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:28.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1726
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:30.760
<v Speaker 4>People seem to like it, but I'm good. Everyone smile.

1727
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:32.399
<v Speaker 4>I'll dive into a Yaka said.

1728
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:34.479
<v Speaker 1>But I might go back to Eashan at some point

1729
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:41.680
<v Speaker 1>with Gunshan. Yeah, yeah, but what a split fiction? What

1730
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:46.600
<v Speaker 1>is it? I'm just it's my segue. Oh yeah, I

1731
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.119
<v Speaker 1>know it is, but go for it. It is.

1732
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's the uh you know, it takes two.

1733
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:54.920
<v Speaker 4>It's Joseph Ferris and Hayes Lights next co op game,

1734
01:17:55.159 --> 01:18:01.239
<v Speaker 4>and uh, it's really fucking good. It is easy, I

1735
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 4>guess to be cynical about these games because like, I

1736
01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:06.319
<v Speaker 4>don't know, I think about It Takes Two and we're

1737
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.279
<v Speaker 4>really enjoying it a lot. Me and Bank played it together,

1738
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:11.399
<v Speaker 4>but then it like super overstated, it's welcome, it was

1739
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:13.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot longer than it needed to be. And also

1740
01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:16.439
<v Speaker 4>there is you know, I'm sure Joseph Haerris is a

1741
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:18.520
<v Speaker 4>nice guy and everything, but like there's a bit of

1742
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:23.159
<v Speaker 4>an obnoxious presence about his whole thing, you know, and

1743
01:18:23.319 --> 01:18:25.439
<v Speaker 4>like constantly putting himself into stuff, and like here again,

1744
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:27.640
<v Speaker 4>like the two characters are named after his daughters, and

1745
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:29.920
<v Speaker 4>we've once again put my fuck the Oscar speech into

1746
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Speaker 4>a game. And it's a lot of like look at

1747
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:34.840
<v Speaker 4>me type stuff, which can be a little obnoxious with

1748
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:38.319
<v Speaker 4>certain whether it's a movie director or game director anything.

1749
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

1750
01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:42.399
<v Speaker 4>I think I came in not being super excited about it,

1751
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:46.199
<v Speaker 4>but Bonk and I have played probably five or six

1752
01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:50.720
<v Speaker 4>hours of it now and it's it's just undeniably fantastic game.

1753
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:51.119
<v Speaker 1>It is.

1754
01:18:52.399 --> 01:18:53.880
<v Speaker 4>I like it a lot more than It Takes Too

1755
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:55.600
<v Speaker 4>so far, and I thought It Takes Two was great.

1756
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 4>I think it looks a lot better. It doesn't have

1757
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:01.960
<v Speaker 4>the weird like kind of wooden toy stuff. And also

1758
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:03.439
<v Speaker 4>everything's like kind of his family.

1759
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:05.399
<v Speaker 2>And they're not having a divorce in the middle of

1760
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the story.

1761
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, girl cry.

1762
01:19:08.720 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh lots of things like that.

1763
01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.000
<v Speaker 4>It was like the elephant thing and the girl crime

1764
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:14.560
<v Speaker 4>thing and all that, and it's just a weird tone

1765
01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:15.199
<v Speaker 4>for this game.

1766
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:17.439
<v Speaker 1>You so far as even going back as far as

1767
01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a brothers, he's way better. His teams are way better

1768
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:23.039
<v Speaker 1>at telling stories through gameplay. When they actually try to

1769
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.239
<v Speaker 1>script something, well, it kind of falls apart.

1770
01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:28.159
<v Speaker 4>It's it is similar here where it's like, look, the

1771
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:31.840
<v Speaker 4>cutscenes are not gonna like it's a very straightforard. It's like, oh,

1772
01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:34.000
<v Speaker 4>these two girls are writers. One's a fantasy writer, one's

1773
01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.000
<v Speaker 4>a sci fi writer. One likes the city, one likes

1774
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:38.439
<v Speaker 4>the country. They don't get along, they don't relate, and

1775
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:39.960
<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden they get sucked into the

1776
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.600
<v Speaker 4>same computer bubble thing because the evil publisher wants to

1777
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.920
<v Speaker 4>suck their ideas out for a publishing.

1778
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Whatever thing the fuck is that story?

1779
01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:50.279
<v Speaker 4>No, that's it, And so it's like but it's all

1780
01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:53.079
<v Speaker 4>just a setup for like allowing them to jump between

1781
01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:57.000
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of totally disconnected in a good way sci

1782
01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:00.600
<v Speaker 4>fi and fantasy settings and just wacky wilds things because

1783
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:01.359
<v Speaker 4>like they get.

1784
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Like because it's like you can just you can be

1785
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:05.760
<v Speaker 2>like you're in a new chapter now, so now you're

1786
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>actually in a western yeah, or like.

1787
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:11.159
<v Speaker 4>There's one word, you're a couple of pigs on a farm,

1788
01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:12.479
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, oh, yeah, I wrote this is the

1789
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:13.680
<v Speaker 4>first thing I wrote when I was like a little

1790
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:15.000
<v Speaker 4>kid and stuff. It's like it kind of just makes

1791
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.399
<v Speaker 4>sense where it's like, Okay, we're playing through what these

1792
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:21.319
<v Speaker 4>writers they yeah, I mean yeah, not quite as rapid,

1793
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:24.600
<v Speaker 4>but it is the thing where you don't know what's

1794
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.359
<v Speaker 4>coming next, and like that is the pace of the

1795
01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:30.760
<v Speaker 4>game never gives you a chance to get bored, you

1796
01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:32.880
<v Speaker 4>know it Like you'll get into an area and like

1797
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:35.359
<v Speaker 4>I have these powers and Bonk has these powers, and

1798
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:38.560
<v Speaker 4>we play this for you know, fifteen twenty minutes and

1799
01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:40.680
<v Speaker 4>then it's a completely fucking different thing. And now we're

1800
01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:42.600
<v Speaker 4>a couple of hot dogs and now it's like, oh

1801
01:20:42.680 --> 01:20:44.760
<v Speaker 4>my hot dog can jump. Oh, Like there's that fun

1802
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:46.680
<v Speaker 4>moment of like oh, I'm this new character or this

1803
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:49.239
<v Speaker 4>new setting, like what do my buttons do, and it

1804
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:51.600
<v Speaker 4>never overcomplicates things. You've got like a jump, a dash,

1805
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 4>You've got your L two and R two that kind

1806
01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:57.000
<v Speaker 4>of does different abilities and it explains things. It doesn't

1807
01:20:57.039 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 4>have to explain things because it's not ever complicated. But

1808
01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:02.479
<v Speaker 4>the variety is so good that you just kind of

1809
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:05.199
<v Speaker 4>want to keep seeing what the next thing is. And

1810
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:07.039
<v Speaker 4>it'll go between like really.

1811
01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:10.479
<v Speaker 1>High fast paced boss fights and chase.

1812
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.560
<v Speaker 4>Sequences and stuff to like, here's a big fun area

1813
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:16.000
<v Speaker 4>for you to just kind of like sandbox run around, like,

1814
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:16.399
<v Speaker 4>look at it.

1815
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Here's all these pigs doing these cute things.

1816
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:22.239
<v Speaker 4>Look at this. It's just everything seems so smartly put together.

1817
01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:25.000
<v Speaker 4>It's like the fact that there are no collectibles or

1818
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:26.479
<v Speaker 4>anything like that to find. I think in a lot

1819
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:28.640
<v Speaker 4>of games, like you know, you want a pepperine collectibles

1820
01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:29.399
<v Speaker 4>inside things to do.

1821
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.359
<v Speaker 1>But here, if there were collectibles, the pacing.

1822
01:21:33.079 --> 01:21:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Would be so different because it's like, oh, let's say

1823
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:36.600
<v Speaker 4>box charging forward and I'm like, hang on, hang on,

1824
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:38.359
<v Speaker 4>I think there might be something over here that's going

1825
01:21:38.439 --> 01:21:39.760
<v Speaker 4>to fuck up the pacing of a game like this

1826
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:41.760
<v Speaker 4>that's meant to be a co op thing. So like,

1827
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:45.560
<v Speaker 4>because that stuff isn't there you can feel comfortable be like, Okay,

1828
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 4>we're just running forward, Okay, we're grappling, we're jumping, we're fighting,

1829
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.399
<v Speaker 4>we're doing all this stuff, and like the pace never

1830
01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:53.560
<v Speaker 4>left up. And when there is side stuff, it is

1831
01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:55.479
<v Speaker 4>in the form of like these like orbs that you

1832
01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:58.800
<v Speaker 4>can go into and they're called side stories, and those

1833
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:00.880
<v Speaker 4>are the ones that are just totally disconnected front. Okay,

1834
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:02.880
<v Speaker 4>this is a hang gliding thing, this is the pig sequence,

1835
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:05.600
<v Speaker 4>this is all this and I you don't it's not

1836
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:07.560
<v Speaker 4>like you get a level. There's no leveling up or

1837
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:10.119
<v Speaker 4>anything like that here or currency. You just want to

1838
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:11.640
<v Speaker 4>do it because it's like, man, that could be anything

1839
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:12.880
<v Speaker 4>in that orb, but I don't know what the fuck

1840
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:13.399
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna be.

1841
01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:14.960
<v Speaker 3>And all of this shit's been fun to do.

1842
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>So.

1843
01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:21.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it looks incredible. The writing is not great,

1844
01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:23.479
<v Speaker 4>but I do like that it doesn't get bogged down

1845
01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:25.880
<v Speaker 4>in over explaining the story. Like you literally get sucked

1846
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:28.800
<v Speaker 4>into this machine and then the two girls are like,

1847
01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:30.840
<v Speaker 4>I guess we got to collect these glitches to get

1848
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:33.159
<v Speaker 4>out of here. Great cool, Like there's no like we

1849
01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:35.520
<v Speaker 4>don't have to understand what the machine is or go

1850
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:37.600
<v Speaker 4>into the backstory of the villain and stuff like that.

1851
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.800
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's incredibly well put together. Like I saw

1852
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:43.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like a ninety two or something on Metacritic.

1853
01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:45.439
<v Speaker 4>It's like yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I don't

1854
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.800
<v Speaker 4>know how you could play this game and not be like, oh, hey,

1855
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:50.119
<v Speaker 4>this is like masterfully put together.

1856
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Did you think I am wonderful that it's doing so well?

1857
01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Was it was the game about escaping brother a way Out,

1858
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Away Out? Did you play that? We started that?

1859
01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:02.479
<v Speaker 2>I did not care for it.

1860
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>That was self serious, right, there's more like Spielberg shots

1861
01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:08.039
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot.

1862
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to do this like I don't know,

1863
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:11.520
<v Speaker 4>it's like a shashank thing or something, but like a

1864
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:13.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of like kind of walking down hallways and walking

1865
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:16.359
<v Speaker 4>talk type stuff, and like I've kind of liked all

1866
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:16.840
<v Speaker 4>their stuff.

1867
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:19.039
<v Speaker 3>I like Brothers. I liked it Takes two.

1868
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:21.319
<v Speaker 4>I love this, but like it Way Out was the

1869
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:23.359
<v Speaker 4>one where it's like, okay, we're getting a little kind

1870
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 4>of the pacing. I didn't love of it, whereas this

1871
01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000
<v Speaker 4>is just kind of slam bang fucking platforming action. Like

1872
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:33.479
<v Speaker 4>it's thing the thing, the thing, the thing, And I've

1873
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:34.119
<v Speaker 4>loved all of it.

1874
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:37.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to play at some point, maybe i'll

1875
01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>with Amanda.

1876
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I root for that studio. I think they do interesting things.

1877
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I think A Tale of Two Brothers was so brilliant

1878
01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:47.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's really cool. The progression of the studio has

1879
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:50.079
<v Speaker 2>taken with more budget, more time, more people to be

1880
01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:53.159
<v Speaker 2>able to make these robust adventures, and It Takes two

1881
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 2>was the pinnacle of a lot of that work. Right,

1882
01:23:55.560 --> 01:24:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Like Tailor Brothers, A Tale of Two Sons is genius

1883
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:03.399
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's my favorite, But that doesn't mean

1884
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:05.479
<v Speaker 2>it's the best. It's just it's the one that, like

1885
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:10.079
<v Speaker 2>I think, had a tremendous story. It was so gripping

1886
01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:16.239
<v Speaker 2>and so powerful, and the gameplay helped helped tell the story,

1887
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>which is the brilliance of this medium.

1888
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:19.159
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1889
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:22.560
<v Speaker 2>If it's just a story, that's Netflix. If it's gameplay,

1890
01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>you've lost the touch. It's the connection of the two.

1891
01:24:26.359 --> 01:24:30.520
<v Speaker 2>This studio has consistently struggled with finding the connection between

1892
01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a good story and good gameplay. In my opinion, I

1893
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:37.039
<v Speaker 2>just haven't seen it yet. The one where they're breaking

1894
01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:40.880
<v Speaker 2>out of prison, I think had a good story, but

1895
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:43.159
<v Speaker 2>the gameplay was a mess. It just was like all

1896
01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:46.199
<v Speaker 2>over the place, and you couldn't. No one was ever

1897
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:49.319
<v Speaker 2>really in control. It felt like we didn't know which

1898
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>one was meant to be doing what. And then all

1899
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.319
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden they were like, now you're shooting at

1900
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the police on the back of a car, and I

1901
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:57.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, I think we've just lost the plot a

1902
01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:00.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit about what we were doing here. I'm hoping

1903
01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.439
<v Speaker 2>that this game. It's a shame to hear you say, like, hey,

1904
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:07.159
<v Speaker 2>listen to the writing's not great, but I do root

1905
01:25:07.239 --> 01:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>for this studio because they're doing something that I want

1906
01:25:09.840 --> 01:25:12.079
<v Speaker 2>more studios to do. It's just co op adventures for

1907
01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:16.279
<v Speaker 2>other people with excellent gameplay, like advanced concepts of that,

1908
01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:20.079
<v Speaker 2>and it has a story that you can deal with

1909
01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>and handle, but I would love for them to actually

1910
01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>have like a really gripping story one day.

1911
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:27.039
<v Speaker 3>It's a really cool niche that they found.

1912
01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:28.760
<v Speaker 4>And I'm with you marea where it's like I want

1913
01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:30.520
<v Speaker 4>to see more of this because, like you know, I

1914
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:32.359
<v Speaker 4>think about like you know, me and Bank where it's

1915
01:25:32.399 --> 01:25:34.880
<v Speaker 4>like we both work in games, we both love games,

1916
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:36.600
<v Speaker 4>and like you know, people assume they' oh you're probably

1917
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:38.239
<v Speaker 4>playing you got a co op partner all the time,

1918
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:40.159
<v Speaker 4>and it's like no, because we we kind of like

1919
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:42.439
<v Speaker 4>different games a lot, and like even like a lot

1920
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:44.680
<v Speaker 4>of co op games or a Monster Hunter and things

1921
01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:46.960
<v Speaker 4>like that are just a little over complicated and aren't

1922
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.520
<v Speaker 4>really like meant for you know, like couch co op

1923
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:52.640
<v Speaker 4>type stuff, whereas this and it takes two we're ones

1924
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:54.399
<v Speaker 4>that Like Bonk and I are like, okay, yeah, we're

1925
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:56.399
<v Speaker 4>gonna sit on the couch and we're gonna play this

1926
01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:58.880
<v Speaker 4>and laugh and you know, we're fucking We're fucking up

1927
01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 4>and laughing at each other and die and stuff like that.

1928
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:03.239
<v Speaker 3>And you really do feel like it's a lot of

1929
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:03.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, you're.

1930
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, get that, shoot that thing, okay, and then I'm

1931
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:06.640
<v Speaker 4>gonna go through a good time those one, two, three,

1932
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:11.359
<v Speaker 4>and it's it is really an ideal co op local experience,

1933
01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:13.399
<v Speaker 4>And I think that doesn't happen a lot. I think

1934
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:15.159
<v Speaker 4>you see a lot of like these throwback like oh

1935
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:18.319
<v Speaker 4>these Power Rangers or Turtles Shredders Revenge type games and

1936
01:26:18.359 --> 01:26:21.079
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that, but like those are throwback nostalgia things,

1937
01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:23.000
<v Speaker 4>so like you know, Bunk's not really interested in like

1938
01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:25.920
<v Speaker 4>those with me as much, but like this is this

1939
01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:27.960
<v Speaker 4>does it so well that this is such a great

1940
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:30.000
<v Speaker 4>excuse to like, all right, let's get down there and

1941
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.000
<v Speaker 4>let's knock out a couple hours and have a great

1942
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 4>time doing it.

1943
01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:35.199
<v Speaker 3>So I've really been loving playing with her.

1944
01:26:35.640 --> 01:26:38.399
<v Speaker 2>I think that's great. You've inspired me. I will probably

1945
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:41.399
<v Speaker 2>play this, although I would play even a bad co

1946
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>op game because I like them and I seek them out,

1947
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:47.600
<v Speaker 2>and I look at co optional and like other places

1948
01:26:47.720 --> 01:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>to seek out co op games to play with other people.

1949
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.039
<v Speaker 2>So this is right up my Ali. I would be

1950
01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 2>playing it too. But yeah, I hope that they continue

1951
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:57.560
<v Speaker 2>to be able to make these types of games, and

1952
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:00.640
<v Speaker 2>one day I look for like the Ultimate Brother's Tale

1953
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>of Two Sons Pinnacle, which is like a really gripping

1954
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>story and beautiful co op gameplay. So let's go.

1955
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you'll get the story thing here, but

1956
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I think you'll have a lot of fun.

1957
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.159
<v Speaker 2>I believe you because we're both Dewey's and so if

1958
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:15.520
<v Speaker 2>you're not griped by the story like they've fucked up.

1959
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh it's ship for sure, it's super Dewey.

1960
01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I'll survive.

1961
01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:22.079
<v Speaker 1>What's my side?

1962
01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Can can you do me a favor? Can you not

1963
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:26.359
<v Speaker 2>google this game?

1964
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

1965
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I would be happy to talk to you about this.

1966
01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you want us to play it? Or do we

1967
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you not want us to google it while you're talking

1968
01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>about it.

1969
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna describe it and then you can decide whether

1970
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:36.399
<v Speaker 2>or not you want to play it. But I think

1971
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>that if you google it it will ruin it because

1972
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>a flame. No, that's not what I'm worried about.

1973
01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, I can say that.

1974
01:27:47.239 --> 01:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Dan. You remember when I told you to play that

1975
01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:51.800
<v Speaker 2>watch that horror movie and I said, yeah, I.

1976
01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Loved it.

1977
01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I want to be careful here. This isn't

1978
01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:01.479
<v Speaker 2>barbarian level my side. It is a don't do it

1979
01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>not my side.

1980
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Is a.

1981
01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:11.000
<v Speaker 2>A hell of a twisty game. And I didn't know

1982
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot about it, and I didn't have anything to

1983
01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>play on Monday, and so I started googling games that

1984
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>are like high reviews. This game is like crazy high reviews,

1985
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>but I'd never heard of it, which I think is

1986
01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:29.039
<v Speaker 2>weird and suspicious. Yes, don't google it and it okay,

1987
01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:33.840
<v Speaker 2>just hear me out. So I was like, either this

1988
01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:38.079
<v Speaker 2>game is committing fraud because it has it has extremely

1989
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:42.319
<v Speaker 2>high reviews, or like it is really good but no

1990
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:45.560
<v Speaker 2>one's talking about it, which is also weird. So I

1991
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:49.239
<v Speaker 2>played it. I finished it. It's about a four hour journey.

1992
01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:57.039
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty fun good, uh it is. The concept is

1993
01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:00.159
<v Speaker 2>that you are playing a game where you have like

1994
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>a wife fu and she's.

1995
01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Like you lost him? Yeah, hold on, hold on.

1996
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Also you just describe that again please, Yeah.

1997
01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>So you're a game and you have like a wife

1998
01:29:11.119 --> 01:29:13.479
<v Speaker 2>and which is like a hot lady or she's a

1999
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:18.520
<v Speaker 2>super cute like woman anime style. She's got like a

2000
01:29:18.560 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 2>cute little dress. You're literally the game starts. You're in

2001
01:29:21.319 --> 01:29:24.439
<v Speaker 2>your bedroom and you take out your phone and then

2002
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>the game and then the camera like zooms into your phone.

2003
01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>So you're playing this game on your phone and she's like,

2004
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.039
<v Speaker 2>help me cook dinner. And so you're like cooking dinner

2005
01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and she's like help you play some mini games like

2006
01:29:35.960 --> 01:29:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I need to like buy I want to I want

2007
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>something for this house, like help me. And so you

2008
01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>do these many games and you get currency and you

2009
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.319
<v Speaker 2>buy something for her, and then she's like I love

2010
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you so much, like come stay with me. And then

2011
01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like, well I can't. You're you're a game, sweetie.

2012
01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>This game takes a pretty interesting twist pretty quickly. In

2013
01:29:55.920 --> 01:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>this game it is not about that at all. But

2014
01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the more I tell you, I think, the more it

2015
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of takes away from the adventure that you go

2016
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>on and.

2017
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>What you learn.

2018
01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And I will warn all of our viewers who are

2019
01:30:11.680 --> 01:30:13.600
<v Speaker 2>like interested in what I'm saying is that this game

2020
01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>has strong themes, including like violence and stuff, and there

2021
01:30:21.159 --> 01:30:26.399
<v Speaker 2>are homages to PT in it. It gets really fucking crazy.

2022
01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I swear it, yes, physical therapy or like playable teaser PT.

2023
01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:38.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yes, yes, Okay, So it.

2024
01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Has like it has like a lot of like really

2025
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:46.319
<v Speaker 2>cool elements to it of maybe horror and it twists.

2026
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:52.399
<v Speaker 2>It's on Steam but and it's important you play it

2027
01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>like the whole game. You're playing as a person playing

2028
01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>on their phone, and that actually does come into.

2029
01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Play first story something like that, like anything does I

2030
01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:01.319
<v Speaker 1>think it.

2031
01:31:01.479 --> 01:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>It has a lot of narrative design choices in it.

2032
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>It kind of reminded me of Slay the Princess.

2033
01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Visual novel.

2034
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>But but it's not it's not talky. It's dewey, but

2035
01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not talky. It's not talky. It's dewey. Okay, But

2036
01:31:17.840 --> 01:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the said, yeah, I lost you with that, I understand,

2037
01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>and I know how quickly you quit games, you have

2038
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>to at least make it five minutes.

2039
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Five minutes.

2040
01:31:30.479 --> 01:31:31.399
<v Speaker 3>I can do five minutes.

2041
01:31:31.479 --> 01:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>No you can't, bitch. We know you've quit games in

2042
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds.

2043
01:31:34.680 --> 01:31:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I've made it twelve minutes in a metaphor, No you didn't.

2044
01:31:37.279 --> 01:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I I was not twelve minutes. He didn't say the

2045
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>what is fantasy when you die? Or something? But he's

2046
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:47.039
<v Speaker 1>got all this time he is for he needs more

2047
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:48.199
<v Speaker 1>time for cooking these days.

2048
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So I think you might like the cooking sim I

2049
01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>think you might like like what it does with the story.

2050
01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:56.319
<v Speaker 2>I will admit I think this is I think I

2051
01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>should say like this other piece, which is like I

2052
01:31:58.039 --> 01:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>think it overstays, it's welcome. I think this would have

2053
01:31:59.880 --> 01:32:02.439
<v Speaker 2>been really perfect three hour game. By the end of

2054
01:32:02.520 --> 01:32:04.279
<v Speaker 2>the fourth hour, I was like, all right, I understand

2055
01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing here. I still recommend this game fully.

2056
01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.079
<v Speaker 2>It's full of twists and turns. It surprised me, it

2057
01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:14.199
<v Speaker 2>delighted me. I think it's actually like quite well made.

2058
01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:18.319
<v Speaker 2>But you have to get past that hump because at

2059
01:32:18.399 --> 01:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>first I was like, oh my god, is this highly

2060
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:23.239
<v Speaker 2>reviewed because of a hunter like a bunch of horny boys,

2061
01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:27.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's possible, but it's not. That's not

2062
01:32:27.319 --> 01:32:30.000
<v Speaker 2>what this game is. But I can't tell you anymore

2063
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>because I think the joy that I received of playing

2064
01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it is because I had no idea what was going

2065
01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:38.239
<v Speaker 2>to happen. So I can't tell you what happens. And

2066
01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should google it because what happens.

2067
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:45.119
<v Speaker 4>I would have been more open minded if you hadn't said, wife,

2068
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:46.439
<v Speaker 4>I disagree.

2069
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Because you would have opened the game and played it,

2070
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:49.439
<v Speaker 2>and then you had been like, why does Mary want

2071
01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:52.439
<v Speaker 2>me to like buy this TV for this sexy little

2072
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>girl who like And there's also I'm just telling you

2073
01:32:57.359 --> 01:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the truth, which is like she's she's like t he

2074
01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>thank you for helping me, And you're like, why am

2075
01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I playing this? But you you figure it out within

2076
01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>with within ten minutes, give it tenntes.

2077
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm I was going to get it on Steam.

2078
01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>It's four hours. But don't look at the trailer.

2079
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm just I'm on the Steam page.

2080
01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I actually regretted looking at the trailer because like, there

2081
01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:26.159
<v Speaker 2>were things that the trailer revealed that I would have

2082
01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:27.159
<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed.

2083
01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit. Discovering ninety thousand overwhelmingly positive reviews.

2084
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh really is this Mary? Would this be a good

2085
01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:37.279
<v Speaker 3>one to go in blind on streamed?

2086
01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:37.479
<v Speaker 1>What?

2087
01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I did?

2088
01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:41.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I had really not like some weird it's going

2089
01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:43.880
<v Speaker 4>to be some demon vagina anime.

2090
01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Thing demon vagina, but there are like tough.

2091
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Am I going to get arrested?

2092
01:33:55.640 --> 01:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>No?

2093
01:33:56.319 --> 01:33:59.319
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not like he was great. It took out

2094
01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>some like peanut pervert game. Okay, I will say all

2095
01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the time. I will admit that the girl is very

2096
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:16.600
<v Speaker 2>cute and her age is nebulous, and like, I'm pretty

2097
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:17.359
<v Speaker 2>sure she's eighteen.

2098
01:34:17.479 --> 01:34:19.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I'm downloading. I might call the cops

2099
01:34:19.600 --> 01:34:20.880
<v Speaker 4>on by the endless podcast.

2100
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Now, what's gonna happen? Is he gonna forget this whole

2101
01:34:23.760 --> 01:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>conversation happened. He's gonna get really into wife fu fiction

2102
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in like three weeks and then he can forget And

2103
01:34:31.159 --> 01:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>have you checked out why fiction? There's his wife who

2104
01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:37.199
<v Speaker 1>games called me sid side. I don't know why I

2105
01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:39.439
<v Speaker 1>thought to play this, but I got into white fou fiction.

2106
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm so grateful that I played this. This is how

2107
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:47.520
<v Speaker 2>we'll end it. I think it was worth the money.

2108
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it was worth absolutely the four hours. I

2109
01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>am recommending it, but it is a journey, and I

2110
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone should google it. That's just how I

2111
01:34:56.960 --> 01:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>feel about it.

2112
01:34:57.720 --> 01:35:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Okay, as long as I without getting arrested.

2113
01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Mike, what are you doing.

2114
01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the Steam page. You didn't tell me not

2115
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:06.399
<v Speaker 1>to look at stuff.

2116
01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Don't look at the Steam page.

2117
01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I saw the developer content description warning like that includes

2118
01:35:13.560 --> 01:35:16.199
<v Speaker 1>this and this and this and what the fuck? It's

2119
01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:18.079
<v Speaker 1>a different not not perfect, weird.

2120
01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Stuff, not perfect weird stuff, but there's O stuff this.

2121
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2122
01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a cool game. I really, I really liked it.

2123
01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:28.199
<v Speaker 2>I will say, like, yeah, it's it has moments where

2124
01:35:28.279 --> 01:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it will surprise you or maybe even scare you. I think, like,

2125
01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>I would not recommend this for people who are like

2126
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't like being scared. It's like, okay, well then

2127
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:36.399
<v Speaker 2>you won't like this game. Like I think this game

2128
01:35:37.119 --> 01:35:41.239
<v Speaker 2>tests your emotions and like, yeah, it's interesting.

2129
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just did ship.

2130
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I haven't seen in a long time, you guys.

2131
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:48.079
<v Speaker 1>I I will take I will not. I'm not.

2132
01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, but I don't want to describe it.

2133
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, hard headed.

2134
01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>I played it on the stream Dan. I started it

2135
01:35:58.239 --> 01:35:59.720
<v Speaker 2>and finished it in the same stream.

2136
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:02.399
<v Speaker 1>It's fifteen dollars, I will consider doing it.

2137
01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Don't be a little cheap ass.

2138
01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:07.119
<v Speaker 3>That's like four cases the cheap thing. It's just the

2139
01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:08.880
<v Speaker 3>anime stuff.

2140
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:12.319
<v Speaker 2>That I that, but that actually also comes into play

2141
01:36:12.399 --> 01:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>in it, so like, I think it's actually important to

2142
01:36:14.880 --> 01:36:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the story. But it is hard. Probably it's a hard

2143
01:36:17.720 --> 01:36:21.319
<v Speaker 2>pill to swallow, but I think it's it's it's worth

2144
01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it because it kind of plays on these tropes. So anyway,

2145
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't describe it anymore without like giving too much away.

2146
01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:29.399
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

2147
01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:30.159
<v Speaker 1>That's how I have.

2148
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:31.279
<v Speaker 2>That's all I have to say.

2149
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I think I will probably next time we record and

2150
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:34.640
<v Speaker 3>have something to say about it.

2151
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Four hours, Like give it four hours and I'd be

2152
01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:38.319
<v Speaker 2>very curious what you have to say.

2153
01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wit, I think.

2154
01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:43.880
<v Speaker 2>That's also interesting.

2155
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:45.680
<v Speaker 3>I will probably that's not it.

2156
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't don't quit in ten minutes.

2157
01:36:48.279 --> 01:36:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Come on, we'll see if they say white fu, I'm

2158
01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:51.239
<v Speaker 3>fucking out.

2159
01:36:51.399 --> 01:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>They don't.

2160
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:56.479
<v Speaker 1>They don't say that, Okay. I think he's going to

2161
01:36:56.520 --> 01:36:58.159
<v Speaker 1>get to the Steam page to download it and see.

2162
01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Just like the artwork, I'm more that when you download it,

2163
01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:03.119
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna look at it and you're gonna be like this,

2164
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:07.119
<v Speaker 2>is like for little Wiener boy, is there a weight?

2165
01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, if you can describe a game like that, I

2166
01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:17.479
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't recommend it to somebody or lit is that the genre?

2167
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:22.039
<v Speaker 1>It does sound like something Dan Dad would say, Well, boys,

2168
01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's fucking high made. It's a woman drinking Francia.

2169
01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:28.399
<v Speaker 3>Drinking Francion playing wife who games?

2170
01:37:29.399 --> 01:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Is that what he imagines I do all day?

2171
01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:32.720
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

2172
01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:34.079
<v Speaker 3>He just gets mad every time.

2173
01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that woman. But then we had out like we

2174
01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:38.479
<v Speaker 1>get along really well.

2175
01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Or is he just that's the thing, Mike, like he

2176
01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:43.680
<v Speaker 4>would He finds you funny and smart and everything, but

2177
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:46.399
<v Speaker 4>like everything about your interests and everything he just deeply

2178
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:47.119
<v Speaker 4>disapproves of.

2179
01:37:47.279 --> 01:37:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get that. Yeah, Dan, you also played w

2180
01:37:52.319 --> 01:37:54.119
<v Speaker 1>W two K twenty five.

2181
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:56.880
<v Speaker 4>I won't worry you for too long with this because, uh,

2182
01:37:57.399 --> 01:38:00.720
<v Speaker 4>this is not the wrestling podcast by any means. But yeah,

2183
01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I wish I liked wrestling video games more than I do.

2184
01:38:04.720 --> 01:38:08.039
<v Speaker 4>I think that they have done a really good job

2185
01:38:08.119 --> 01:38:10.760
<v Speaker 4>in the last few years of turning it around after

2186
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:13.960
<v Speaker 4>very disastrous like two K twenty. I feel like they've

2187
01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:16.079
<v Speaker 4>gotten every one of them has gotten a bit better

2188
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:19.560
<v Speaker 4>since then. But as good as they've gotten, I still,

2189
01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:22.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, every year I play them, I'm like, oh,

2190
01:38:22.119 --> 01:38:24.239
<v Speaker 4>it's getting better, and then I don't feel any desire

2191
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.479
<v Speaker 4>to play them longer. So it's just weird to me that,

2192
01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:29.720
<v Speaker 4>like I'm the guy who the two things in my

2193
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:32.439
<v Speaker 4>life forever have been video games and wrestling, and I

2194
01:38:32.680 --> 01:38:35.439
<v Speaker 4>just cannot get into the new wrestling games, even if

2195
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:39.600
<v Speaker 4>they're good. So, like the gameplay is is solid, it

2196
01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:41.720
<v Speaker 4>feels okay, but like all the new stuff they added,

2197
01:38:41.840 --> 01:38:44.199
<v Speaker 4>Like there's this thing called the Island where you're like

2198
01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:47.159
<v Speaker 4>living on this Roman Reigns island and you create a

2199
01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:50.159
<v Speaker 4>character and you get a smart watch that sends all

2200
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:54.079
<v Speaker 4>of your data to Roman Reigns, so like your wins

2201
01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:56.279
<v Speaker 4>and losses and stuff like that, to like, oh, sit

2202
01:38:56.359 --> 01:38:58.439
<v Speaker 4>next to them on the I'm not gonna bory with

2203
01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.479
<v Speaker 4>the Bloodline stuff and what that is and everything. It's

2204
01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:03.520
<v Speaker 4>just like that mode is just a bunch of like

2205
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:06.600
<v Speaker 4>micro transaction stuff and online play that like I never

2206
01:39:06.680 --> 01:39:07.199
<v Speaker 4>do online.

2207
01:39:07.239 --> 01:39:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm not interested in that.

2208
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 4>The Showcase mode thing where you kind of play through

2209
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:13.000
<v Speaker 4>like history and stuff like that is based on the

2210
01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.199
<v Speaker 4>blood Line and all the different members of the Bloodline

2211
01:39:15.199 --> 01:39:18.199
<v Speaker 4>and Yokazuna and Roman reigns and the USO's and everything,

2212
01:39:18.279 --> 01:39:20.600
<v Speaker 4>and those are fine. It got rid of the parts

2213
01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:22.800
<v Speaker 4>where you're watching like real matches and things like that

2214
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:27.680
<v Speaker 4>eight times between every normal match, which gets annoying. It's

2215
01:39:27.720 --> 01:39:29.760
<v Speaker 4>still a lot of putting the controller down and watching

2216
01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:33.800
<v Speaker 4>as things play out. The gameplay feels pretty wooden. They

2217
01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:37.119
<v Speaker 4>added intergender matches, which I that was a thing that

2218
01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:40.680
<v Speaker 4>my understanding from knowing people who have worked there over

2219
01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:43.840
<v Speaker 4>the years is that like people are weirdly ravenous about

2220
01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:47.279
<v Speaker 4>wanting to have inter gender matches in w A Duque,

2221
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:50.640
<v Speaker 4>and they brought them back, so I'm sure those folks

2222
01:39:50.680 --> 01:39:52.920
<v Speaker 4>are thrilled. I did one match where I was Terry

2223
01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Funk and I fought Stephanie McMahon and a backstage prawl,

2224
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:58.119
<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure it just feels like every other match.

2225
01:39:58.199 --> 01:39:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Basically.

2226
01:40:00.319 --> 01:40:05.000
<v Speaker 4>They added the Logan Paul's Prime bottle to the center

2227
01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:07.119
<v Speaker 4>of the ring and also the hydration station then, so

2228
01:40:07.159 --> 01:40:10.319
<v Speaker 4>there's plenty of Logan Paul advertisements throughout the game. It's

2229
01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:14.000
<v Speaker 4>there's too many modes. It's for me, like, the only

2230
01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:16.399
<v Speaker 4>things that appealed to me is like, Okay, the roster's updated.

2231
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:18.520
<v Speaker 4>It's like if you were like into Madden and it's

2232
01:40:18.560 --> 01:40:20.720
<v Speaker 4>like you get the year to your stuff, Like, okay,

2233
01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:23.199
<v Speaker 4>at least the rosters are updated, and if there's a

2234
01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.840
<v Speaker 4>new stadium or something that's included, like oh, that's that's

2235
01:40:25.880 --> 01:40:29.319
<v Speaker 4>the most recent WrestleMania stage is there? And bron Breakers

2236
01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:32.199
<v Speaker 4>here and all these different like you know, the it's

2237
01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:34.560
<v Speaker 4>just the gameplay feels the same. The gameplay doesn't really

2238
01:40:34.600 --> 01:40:36.640
<v Speaker 4>inspire me. I'm sure I will download a bunch of

2239
01:40:36.680 --> 01:40:39.159
<v Speaker 4>stupid creative wrestlers and make AI fight each other and

2240
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:43.399
<v Speaker 4>laugh about it on a stream, but there's too many

2241
01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:45.880
<v Speaker 4>fucking modes here and most of them are not good.

2242
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad the gameplay has gotten better year after year,

2243
01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:52.439
<v Speaker 4>but like it is still not a thing that is

2244
01:40:52.840 --> 01:40:54.560
<v Speaker 4>that I will keep coming back to.

2245
01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I get, I get the desire to play

2246
01:40:58.000 --> 01:40:59.439
<v Speaker 1>it as like someone who used to be in the

2247
01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:02.119
<v Speaker 1>year least sports games, but not so much anymore.

2248
01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:04.640
<v Speaker 4>But it's just been like I haven't like wrestling is

2249
01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:08.039
<v Speaker 4>such a weird fucking industry and it has not translated

2250
01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:10.600
<v Speaker 4>to games well in a long time. I think, you know,

2251
01:41:11.159 --> 01:41:14.119
<v Speaker 4>like everyone has their N sixty four, you know, memories

2252
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:16.159
<v Speaker 4>and stuff like that, and even before that. I liked

2253
01:41:16.159 --> 01:41:17.720
<v Speaker 4>a lot of that stuff, but like, I don't know,

2254
01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:20.520
<v Speaker 4>the more simulation it is, the more it's trying to

2255
01:41:20.600 --> 01:41:24.159
<v Speaker 4>simulate what actual like pro wrestling matches on TV look like,

2256
01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:25.199
<v Speaker 4>the less I'm interested in it.

2257
01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:26.399
<v Speaker 3>And that's a common thing.

2258
01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:29.920
<v Speaker 4>People like the more arcadie stuff typically, it's just it's

2259
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:32.119
<v Speaker 4>it's a weird industry to translate to video games, and

2260
01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't like most of them all right, fair enough,

2261
01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:38.760
<v Speaker 4>but to say this is a good game, like this

2262
01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:41.960
<v Speaker 4>is a they've definitely made huge improvements for several years now,

2263
01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.079
<v Speaker 4>but like it's still not for me.

2264
01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Really, when did When was the last time a wrestling

2265
01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:50.199
<v Speaker 1>video game was good that you liked? Well?

2266
01:41:50.239 --> 01:41:52.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, but that I liked, okay, because like I said,

2267
01:41:52.600 --> 01:41:54.119
<v Speaker 4>like this is I think this is a good game,

2268
01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:57.520
<v Speaker 4>but that I was really into. Uh here comes the

2269
01:41:57.560 --> 01:42:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Pain on PlayStation two, so we're wow. Can I give

2270
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:02.600
<v Speaker 4>you sure?

2271
01:42:03.039 --> 01:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>You know how Mike has a tiered list of all

2272
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the Bond films. Would you do a tier of your

2273
01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>best to least wrestling games for next EPI?

2274
01:42:16.520 --> 01:42:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean that that'd be easy. I

2275
01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:19.600
<v Speaker 3>could do that. I could rattle it off right.

2276
01:42:19.640 --> 01:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Now here comes the Pain number one, no N sixty four,

2277
01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:24.479
<v Speaker 1>what would have been.

2278
01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:26.319
<v Speaker 4>All the N sixty four one, so like no Mercy,

2279
01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:30.600
<v Speaker 4>then wrestlemin In two thousand, then WCWNW Revenge. Then I

2280
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:35.680
<v Speaker 4>would probably say here comes the Pain, and it's just nostalgia.

2281
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:37.119
<v Speaker 4>I kind of like the Roy Rumbling Raw ones.

2282
01:42:37.119 --> 01:42:38.239
<v Speaker 2>And you don't want to think about this.

2283
01:42:39.439 --> 01:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've already.

2284
01:42:41.399 --> 01:42:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Named the important ones, like the sixty four ones, and

2285
01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:45.840
<v Speaker 4>here comes the Pain are like the important ones to me.

2286
01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>And then there's a bunch of like bad ones that

2287
01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:50.439
<v Speaker 4>I have nostalgia for, like the acclaim in sixty four,

2288
01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:53.520
<v Speaker 4>war Zone attitude stuff and roll Rumbling Raw, And then

2289
01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:57.079
<v Speaker 4>there's just a lot of super fucking forgettable modern ones.

2290
01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:00.439
<v Speaker 1>There you have it, homework finished.

2291
01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm a plus, thank you, A plus plus plus plus

2292
01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>plus plus.

2293
01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Dan doesn't get it. Damn.

2294
01:43:17.039 --> 01:43:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's cool.

2295
01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:20.520
<v Speaker 4>It's uh it's an old PS two game, and uh,

2296
01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:22.600
<v Speaker 4>I think we all like the thing here right, mm hmm.

2297
01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:24.720
<v Speaker 1>It's Mary's favorite movie, my third.

2298
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:28.279
<v Speaker 4>Favorite thing podcast. Yeah, yeah, it's just uh, it's interesting

2299
01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 4>to play now. And like night Dive what they're doing

2300
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:33.640
<v Speaker 4>Night Dive Studios, I have so much respect for what

2301
01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.479
<v Speaker 4>they're doing because like they are just taking these games

2302
01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:38.479
<v Speaker 4>that are not the most you know, like it's not

2303
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.239
<v Speaker 4>a Metal Year or a Zelda remake. It's not the

2304
01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:43.640
<v Speaker 4>most you know big you know, Triple A name and

2305
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:46.920
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. They're taking cool, weird stuff from like

2306
01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.239
<v Speaker 4>air like I love that PS two era where you know,

2307
01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:51.640
<v Speaker 4>a lot of weird stuff was getting tried, including this

2308
01:43:51.880 --> 01:43:53.680
<v Speaker 4>thing remastered, which I didn't play back in the day.

2309
01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:56.439
<v Speaker 4>I had not seen the movie back then, and uh,

2310
01:43:57.199 --> 01:43:59.920
<v Speaker 4>it clearly was doing the thing where they're trying to

2311
01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:03.840
<v Speaker 4>do justice to the movie. Where back then, especially if

2312
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:05.960
<v Speaker 4>you saw a license on a game, it was just

2313
01:44:06.079 --> 01:44:08.720
<v Speaker 4>like some studio got or some publisher got access to

2314
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:11.159
<v Speaker 4>the license and they just make just a very you know,

2315
01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:13.439
<v Speaker 4>it's going to skate by on the license and not

2316
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:18.359
<v Speaker 4>have anything interesting in storage. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:23.159
<v Speaker 4>they're And this was clearly going for like the themes

2318
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>of the thing and like not being able to trust

2319
01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:27.560
<v Speaker 4>the people around you and like, Okay, you'll find these

2320
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:30.159
<v Speaker 4>people that join your squad, but they might like get

2321
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:32.479
<v Speaker 4>freaked out because they saw a bloody murder scene and

2322
01:44:32.560 --> 01:44:34.119
<v Speaker 4>you need to like you know, give them adrenaline shots

2323
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:35.960
<v Speaker 4>to make them cool or whatever, or like you need

2324
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:37.840
<v Speaker 4>to give yourself a blood test to show that you're

2325
01:44:37.880 --> 01:44:40.000
<v Speaker 4>not the thing, or you need to give them a

2326
01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:41.880
<v Speaker 4>blood test so you're proved to the other guys that

2327
01:44:41.960 --> 01:44:44.680
<v Speaker 4>they're not the thing. And it's it's all very like

2328
01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:46.800
<v Speaker 4>it is from O two or something like that, so

2329
01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:49.079
<v Speaker 4>don't expect it to be this like Super Deep AI

2330
01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:51.560
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. They're getting stuck on walls. They'll

2331
01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:52.720
<v Speaker 4>be like, hey, where the fuck are my guy that

2332
01:44:52.720 --> 01:44:55.840
<v Speaker 4>they were supposed to be with me but they were

2333
01:44:55.880 --> 01:44:59.279
<v Speaker 4>going for. It is all set in that very antarctic nighttime.

2334
01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:02.119
<v Speaker 4>There are reference the movie. There's the likeness of John Carpenter,

2335
01:45:02.239 --> 01:45:04.359
<v Speaker 4>and you'll see cameos from other characters from the movie

2336
01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:07.159
<v Speaker 4>and stuff. It was meant to be like a canonical

2337
01:45:07.279 --> 01:45:10.720
<v Speaker 4>follow up to the movie. So it's just like all

2338
01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:12.560
<v Speaker 4>those things are really cool that it takes from the movie,

2339
01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:15.000
<v Speaker 4>where it's like the tiny little critters and stuff you

2340
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:16.680
<v Speaker 4>can kill, which is like a gun, but like the

2341
01:45:16.720 --> 01:45:19.119
<v Speaker 4>bigger things are like if one of your crewmates turns

2342
01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:21.840
<v Speaker 4>into the thing, you need to shoot him with guns

2343
01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:23.560
<v Speaker 4>and stuff until he's weaken up, and then you turn

2344
01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:25.760
<v Speaker 4>on like a blow toward to a flamethrower or flame

2345
01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:27.119
<v Speaker 4>grenade to just torch him.

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01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I really respect. I respected.

2347
01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:33.840
<v Speaker 4>I respect the ambition more than maybe I enjoyed the

2348
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.279
<v Speaker 4>moment to moment. Although I didn't like the moment to moment.

2349
01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:38.039
<v Speaker 4>I didn't think it was a bad game by any means.

2350
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:40.079
<v Speaker 4>But more than anything, I was just like, kind of

2351
01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:42.920
<v Speaker 4>impressed with the ambition of this thing in an era

2352
01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:46.600
<v Speaker 4>where license games had anything but ambition.

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01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, well I check this out. It was cool.

2354
01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I writ a great steam Deck game. I play the

2355
01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:52.399
<v Speaker 3>whole thing on steam Deck.

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01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:55.399
<v Speaker 1>It was great. Cool. Mary, have you played that? You

2357
01:45:55.439 --> 01:46:01.119
<v Speaker 1>origin like the game or the remass? Sure, I feel

2358
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like that's something you play.

2359
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh No, I feel like I should and I have not,

2360
01:46:06.319 --> 01:46:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And this is all news to me. I'm gonna be

2361
01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>honest with you. I don't think I knew that this

2362
01:46:10.720 --> 01:46:11.560
<v Speaker 2>game was ever a thing.

2363
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:13.840
<v Speaker 3>It's called the Thing.

2364
01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that it existed.

2365
01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's not really one that anyone

2366
01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:20.720
<v Speaker 3>talked about that much.

2367
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:24.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just that every time the Thing ever had any adaptations,

2368
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:27.159
<v Speaker 2>including like sequels, they were dog shit. And I'm just

2369
01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>when things are perfect, you just don't mess with them.

2370
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:33.880
<v Speaker 4>So and this isn't perfect, but like I do feel

2371
01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:37.600
<v Speaker 4>like it. It's earnest and it's it's clearly came from

2372
01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:38.680
<v Speaker 4>people who loved the film.

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01:46:38.840 --> 01:46:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's cool.

2374
01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean I find that appealing. I really really liked

2375
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is my favorite movie. It's just hard

2376
01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to like imagine it as a game, but I could be.

2377
01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:54.159
<v Speaker 3>I could be convinced it's better than you might think

2378
01:46:54.159 --> 01:46:54.319
<v Speaker 3>of this.

2379
01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:59.039
<v Speaker 2>All right, I would like to play it, just just

2380
01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to have the experience of it. And Michael.

2381
01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:09.560
<v Speaker 1>War Hammer, Oh yeah, I won't talk that about that enough.

2382
01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Vinnie and I have started both of our campaigns for

2383
01:47:12.800 --> 01:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the shows we're doing. I've seen a bunch of people

2384
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>say they are subscribing to both to watch the Evil

2385
01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and the Good campaign. It's going well, then, he's learning quickly.

2386
01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:26.039
<v Speaker 1>The Good campaign is a lot more in depth because

2387
01:47:26.039 --> 01:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he's playing we're playing fact, He's playing a faction that

2388
01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>takes more thought. In the Evil campaign, he's playing a

2389
01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.399
<v Speaker 1>faction that you just send demons with flaming swords and

2390
01:47:35.920 --> 01:47:40.079
<v Speaker 1>people on motorcycles with blood shrines and giant monsters at

2391
01:47:40.119 --> 01:47:42.720
<v Speaker 1>people and let them do their thing. But I'm the

2392
01:47:42.800 --> 01:47:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Vampire Pirates in that campaign, so I'm trying to like

2393
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:48.600
<v Speaker 1>work my way down the ocean and come into Lustria

2394
01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:50.479
<v Speaker 1>where he's fighting. So we're going to try to figure

2395
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:52.560
<v Speaker 1>out an alliance. I might backstab him, I might not.

2396
01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if I'm in a good mood that day.

2397
01:47:55.199 --> 01:47:57.199
<v Speaker 1>And then the other one's going, well, I'm a warp

2398
01:47:57.239 --> 01:47:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lizard who warps around the world do an

2399
01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:01.079
<v Speaker 1>X comstyle mission, and I'm trying to get a mission

2400
01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:05.119
<v Speaker 1>to proc to uh what's the word to spawn near him.

2401
01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Have not gotten that rang yet, but I'm gonna try

2402
01:48:08.279 --> 01:48:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and then once I get over there, we'll join forces.

2403
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:12.079
<v Speaker 1>It's really fun.

2404
01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:15.920
<v Speaker 4>It's nice to play co is on both our patreon,

2405
01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:18.279
<v Speaker 4>the fire Escape Patreon and the Next Lander Patreon.

2406
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Evil campaign is specific to Next Lander, and

2407
01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you can just you're not gonna miss any episodes of

2408
01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:25.479
<v Speaker 1>each campaign if you only subscribe to one. If you

2409
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>want to watch the Evil campaign, Vinnie's playing skull Taker,

2410
01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing Vampire Pirate captain, and then the Good campaign

2411
01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:36.000
<v Speaker 1>is on fire Escape. Both of them are the top

2412
01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:39.119
<v Speaker 1>tiers for our respective sites, So if you it's our

2413
01:48:39.199 --> 01:48:41.720
<v Speaker 1>video tier and it's there I don't know what the

2414
01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>name of the tier. It's their top tier, so go

2415
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:46.279
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to that if you want it. But it's very fun,

2416
01:48:47.279 --> 01:48:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a good mix of like me shirt puying Vinnie through

2417
01:48:52.079 --> 01:48:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the game and also like also just fun and funny.

2418
01:48:56.279 --> 01:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Plus it has Vinnie, like you can't lose. What else, Like,

2419
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:04.199
<v Speaker 2>what a great person to go through this with. Like,

2420
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>we are obviously big fans of Next Lander, so this

2421
01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:11.279
<v Speaker 2>is a match made in heaven. But Vinnie is just

2422
01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:14.279
<v Speaker 2>such a lovely person to co op with. I've played

2423
01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>co op games with Vinnie. We used to do our

2424
01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like cute little cozy corner games section together. It was

2425
01:49:20.840 --> 01:49:23.640
<v Speaker 2>really fun. I'm like really happy for your journey. And

2426
01:49:24.399 --> 01:49:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like anyone who loves Vinnie's gots to get

2427
01:49:27.079 --> 01:49:29.399
<v Speaker 2>in on this series. It's a miss to not see this.

2428
01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:32.079
<v Speaker 3>And if you don't love Vinnie, maybe try to figure

2429
01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:32.800
<v Speaker 3>out what's wrong with you.

2430
01:49:33.199 --> 01:49:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just like put up with Mike. It's Vinnie.

2431
01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look, Mike's not great, we all agree, but Vinnie's awesome.

2432
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>It's Vinnie and me, but Vinnie and Mike's there and

2433
01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>me and Vinnie. Guys want to do you guys want

2434
01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to talk about some you want through emails.

2435
01:49:51.560 --> 01:49:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Vinnie, that'd be great, all right.

2436
01:49:56.800 --> 01:49:59.079
<v Speaker 1>As usual, you can write in questions you want read

2437
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:03.119
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Comment concerns to fire Escape cast at gmail.

2438
01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:04.279
<v Speaker 3>Concerns dot com.

2439
01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we read concerns. Don't you were about that? It's

2440
01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Firescape past at gmail dot com. We've got some questions

2441
01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>left in the tank, but send in some morgues. We've

2442
01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>been going through them. Which one we want to start

2443
01:50:19.640 --> 01:50:24.359
<v Speaker 1>with this week? Wes, who's a constant emailer, always sends

2444
01:50:24.399 --> 01:50:28.159
<v Speaker 1>in good questions. This one I did. We had that

2445
01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>conversation several episodes ago where we were saying some of

2446
01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>these would be better if we knew beforehand. We were

2447
01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>aware of this one, and I like during our breaks

2448
01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:37.640
<v Speaker 1>when we're recording, I've thought of a few answers and

2449
01:50:37.680 --> 01:50:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be good. Mary, do you want to

2450
01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:40.760
<v Speaker 1>read this first one from Wes?

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01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Sure, So. I recently watched the coming of age

2452
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:49.560
<v Speaker 2>film Sweethearts. In it, there was a minor character named

2453
01:50:49.640 --> 01:50:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Kurt who had like a minute of screen time, but

2454
01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:54.079
<v Speaker 2>he absolutely nailed it and ended up being one of

2455
01:50:54.119 --> 01:50:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the most memorable parts of the whole movie. What are

2456
01:50:56.760 --> 01:50:59.560
<v Speaker 2>some of your favorite minor characters in movies that had

2457
01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:02.920
<v Speaker 2>a big impact on the film. Thanks West from Baltimore.

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01:51:02.960 --> 01:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna caveat this and say, I don't think this

2459
01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:06.720
<v Speaker 2>is just a big impact on the film, but like

2460
01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:09.239
<v Speaker 2>big impact on you, right, Like you're like, I.

2461
01:51:09.359 --> 01:51:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Love I'm just thinking of it like amazing actors who

2462
01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking stole that one scene they were in.

2463
01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, so mine is very much of that, because

2464
01:51:18.439 --> 01:51:20.239
<v Speaker 4>it's not a big impact on the film. In fact,

2465
01:51:20.239 --> 01:51:22.760
<v Speaker 4>I think most people who have seen Roadhouse, which is

2466
01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:25.880
<v Speaker 4>my choice here, probably don't even remember this moment.

2467
01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:28.479
<v Speaker 3>But it's just one of the fucking henchmen.

2468
01:51:29.920 --> 01:51:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm talking about.

2469
01:51:32.119 --> 01:51:35.520
<v Speaker 4>He's gonna do it, Mike's gonna do no. No, You're

2470
01:51:35.560 --> 01:51:39.600
<v Speaker 4>not getting in there with the legs, all right. I

2471
01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:42.319
<v Speaker 4>am not nearly as aggressive as the guy.

2472
01:51:43.760 --> 01:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right. I know. They even describe it for

2473
01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:48.399
<v Speaker 1>our audio listeners. So it.

2474
01:51:50.119 --> 01:51:54.399
<v Speaker 4>Is near the end were Swayze is like driving a

2475
01:51:54.520 --> 01:51:57.840
<v Speaker 4>car into the evil guy house or whatever, and there's

2476
01:51:57.880 --> 01:52:00.199
<v Speaker 4>just a bunch of henchmen out on the lawn with

2477
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.560
<v Speaker 4>like shotguns and they're all just looking like eighties you know,

2478
01:52:03.680 --> 01:52:06.239
<v Speaker 4>movie henchmen and stuff. But There's one guy with a

2479
01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:09.840
<v Speaker 4>hilarious fucking mustache who was doing the funniest fucking thing

2480
01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:12.199
<v Speaker 4>with his leg ever and face while he Shooting's like

2481
01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:14.359
<v Speaker 4>the leg you can't like.

2482
01:52:14.439 --> 01:52:18.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just like, yeah, I don't he's I don't understand.

2483
01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:21.720
<v Speaker 1>No one's ever shot a gun like this ever. In fact,

2484
01:52:21.840 --> 01:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it's detrimental to shooting a gun to lift your leg

2485
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like that.

2486
01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a shotgun. He's shooting at a car and it's

2487
01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:31.760
<v Speaker 4>speeding and like we just die. We frame by frame

2488
01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:33.920
<v Speaker 4>that in college, like just the best ship.

2489
01:52:33.920 --> 01:52:38.479
<v Speaker 1>It's really good. He's good. There's one line I don't

2490
01:52:38.479 --> 01:52:40.439
<v Speaker 1>even know if you can see the character when he

2491
01:52:40.560 --> 01:52:44.479
<v Speaker 1>says this caveat this by saying, I don't know how

2492
01:52:44.680 --> 01:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>cool Runnings has aged. I was just thinking about that,

2493
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:51.319
<v Speaker 1>But you were just thinking of cool running, thinking about

2494
01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:53.319
<v Speaker 1>yeah becau.

2495
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:55.439
<v Speaker 4>Jeff Grebb was talking about doing a toboggan trip with

2496
01:52:55.560 --> 01:52:57.399
<v Speaker 4>his family, and I was like, woll, what's the difference

2497
01:52:57.439 --> 01:52:57.560
<v Speaker 4>to that?

2498
01:52:57.680 --> 01:52:59.039
<v Speaker 3>No, how was cool Runnings held up?

2499
01:52:59.159 --> 01:52:59.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

2500
01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Runs?

2501
01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:00.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

2502
01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:05.119
<v Speaker 1>So again. I barely remember most of the movie, but

2503
01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:09.079
<v Speaker 1>I do remember this one scene where the characters basically

2504
01:53:09.199 --> 01:53:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like convincing the Jamaican guys to do the bob Sled event,

2505
01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and he's giving the speech in next to a bob

2506
01:53:17.800 --> 01:53:20.560
<v Speaker 1>sled and there's a crowd, and he says, the bob Sled,

2507
01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Gentleman is a sophisticated machine. And then just in the background,

2508
01:53:25.119 --> 01:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you hear some random dude shout, yeah, so it's a toilet.

2509
01:53:31.960 --> 01:53:32.680
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty good.

2510
01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:35.199
<v Speaker 1>My friend and I have just quoted that our whole lives,

2511
01:53:35.319 --> 01:53:37.479
<v Speaker 1>just and it gets more ridiculous each time we say it.

2512
01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:39.279
<v Speaker 1>So at this point we just be like, yeah, I

2513
01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:43.399
<v Speaker 1>was a toilet. That guy just that's one of the

2514
01:53:43.439 --> 01:53:45.319
<v Speaker 1>funniest things I've ever heard in my life. And I

2515
01:53:45.359 --> 01:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't even think he's credit. I don't think

2516
01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:50.039
<v Speaker 1>they show him, and they might, but in my memory

2517
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:52.720
<v Speaker 1>they don't. He's just some unnamed person.

2518
01:53:55.359 --> 01:53:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I feel like I did it differently.

2519
01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:00.399
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of someone who was on the main

2520
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:01.720
<v Speaker 2>character and like, maybe not.

2521
01:54:04.039 --> 01:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Actual characters yet, but it.

2522
01:54:05.399 --> 01:54:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean that they are like a nothing character. I

2523
01:54:09.039 --> 01:54:12.399
<v Speaker 2>just recently watched The Big Lebowski again. It has so

2524
01:54:13.039 --> 01:54:17.720
<v Speaker 2>many memorable characters, but I think one person that really

2525
01:54:18.439 --> 01:54:20.359
<v Speaker 2>just blew my mind because I kept thinking about them

2526
01:54:20.399 --> 01:54:25.119
<v Speaker 2>later was Julian Moore, who plays the crazy artist in it,

2527
01:54:25.479 --> 01:54:29.159
<v Speaker 2>and she just has she has such great it's her delivery.

2528
01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>You have to see the doctor please. He's good and

2529
01:54:34.520 --> 01:54:38.279
<v Speaker 2>thorough and she's just so dictionate and every line she

2530
01:54:38.359 --> 01:54:40.319
<v Speaker 2>delivers I can't get out of my head.

2531
01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Coen Brothers are fantastic, fantastic characters.

2532
01:54:48.279 --> 01:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>One of my Yeah, Alfred Molina and Buggie Knights of

2533
01:54:52.359 --> 01:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the Firecrackers and and he fucking sells it. And then

2534
01:54:55.680 --> 01:54:59.439
<v Speaker 1>he just starts singing Jesse's No not what song is this?

2535
01:54:59.600 --> 01:55:00.279
<v Speaker 1>It's No.

2536
01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Eight six, seven, three or nine or it's one of

2537
01:55:03.039 --> 01:55:03.800
<v Speaker 3>those like eighties.

2538
01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And is Juzefan in this back car? Yeah? But

2539
01:55:07.119 --> 01:55:09.119
<v Speaker 1>he's amazing in that scene. He's another one. It's like,

2540
01:55:09.439 --> 01:55:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine that movie. That scene is basically integral

2541
01:55:14.199 --> 01:55:17.279
<v Speaker 1>in the sense that that's showing his continued downfall. But

2542
01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I still think the movie could exist without the scene.

2543
01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>But I can't imagine existing because of his performance. Oh

2544
01:55:22.800 --> 01:55:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

2545
01:55:23.399 --> 01:55:26.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And the Cohen's reminds me that there's a part

2546
01:55:26.119 --> 01:55:28.680
<v Speaker 4>in Raising Arizona where Nicholas Cage is like going to

2547
01:55:28.760 --> 01:55:31.039
<v Speaker 4>a gas station like side of the road and highway

2548
01:55:31.399 --> 01:55:33.159
<v Speaker 4>and he's like looking at the balloons. There's like a

2549
01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:35.680
<v Speaker 4>bunch of balloons on the counter, and he's like, do

2550
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:38.560
<v Speaker 4>we got any balloons that come in like, you know, funny,

2551
01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:40.960
<v Speaker 4>funny shapes or anything like that. And there's just this

2552
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:43.640
<v Speaker 4>like older guy working the gas station, stone faced, and

2553
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:46.000
<v Speaker 4>he goes, not unless round's funny.

2554
01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:52.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a good line. Well, the in the gas station

2555
01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:58.159
<v Speaker 1>scene with Anton Sugar Oh the No Country. Yeah, the

2556
01:55:58.319 --> 01:56:03.119
<v Speaker 1>dude he's talking to is perfect for that scene. Just

2557
01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>this like West Texas dude, who it now that I'm

2558
01:56:07.319 --> 01:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>thinking of this scene, I mean that scene's amazing for

2559
01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the coin flip monologue. But he also at one point

2560
01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:19.079
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, so I own this shop. Well, my

2561
01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>wife's father owned it. So Anton Schiger like coughs, He's like,

2562
01:56:21.680 --> 01:56:25.479
<v Speaker 1>you inherited this gas station was the most like he's

2563
01:56:25.520 --> 01:56:28.359
<v Speaker 1>already this evil character. He's just being so fucking condescending

2564
01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to this guy that he's about to potentially kill if

2565
01:56:30.840 --> 01:56:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the coin lands a certain way. Also a recent one

2566
01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>which was not funny. In fact, it was very grim.

2567
01:56:39.479 --> 01:56:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Plemon's character in Civil War. He was fucking amazing

2568
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:48.319
<v Speaker 1>in that role. And I don't think he has more

2569
01:56:48.399 --> 01:56:52.720
<v Speaker 1>than the scene itself is a is like probably maybe

2570
01:56:52.960 --> 01:56:55.439
<v Speaker 1>six minutes, but he is he is like he talks

2571
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:57.359
<v Speaker 1>for three of them and he's I.

2572
01:56:57.359 --> 01:56:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Mean, you're telling the trailer of that. When he's like,

2573
01:56:59.520 --> 01:57:00.840
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, kind of American area, it.

2574
01:57:00.880 --> 01:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Like like, oh this, yeah is amazing. Yeah. I was

2575
01:57:05.960 --> 01:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable as they as Alex Garland wanted me to be

2576
01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that whole scene. It was rough. I don't know if

2577
01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I have any others that are like coming and out,

2578
01:57:16.800 --> 01:57:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and there's probably some like supporting characters that say a

2579
01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:22.520
<v Speaker 1>one offline that I quote all the time to my

2580
01:57:22.600 --> 01:57:23.720
<v Speaker 1>friends and just forgot about.

2581
01:57:25.560 --> 01:57:29.600
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Chris Farley and dirty work, dirty work.

2582
01:57:29.960 --> 01:57:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Dirty work. You sent me the scene with Norm in

2583
01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the movie theater and what's his name? Oh Don Rickles,

2584
01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Don Rickles, Yeah, keeps making him laugh.

2585
01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:38.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's good.

2586
01:57:40.479 --> 01:57:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Yeah, ol for Milliam is great. But yeah,

2587
01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:46.720
<v Speaker 1>so it was a toilet Okay, Dan, you want to

2588
01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:51.000
<v Speaker 1>read this one from Oh actually, yeah, I guess does

2589
01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:52.960
<v Speaker 1>make more sense if you read let me let me

2590
01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>read this one.

2591
01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh, let me raise my desk for my camera. This

2592
01:57:57.359 --> 01:57:59.399
<v Speaker 4>might be wanting to watch the video for Maybe we'll

2593
01:57:59.399 --> 01:58:00.439
<v Speaker 4>do a social okay.

2594
01:58:00.520 --> 01:58:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I did check with Dan before this to see whether

2595
01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>he wants to double up with giant bomb content, but

2596
01:58:04.960 --> 01:58:07.600
<v Speaker 1>oh no, we can do this. Yes, hey, fire escapists.

2597
01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm currently watching a program titled Voicemail Dump Truck that

2598
01:58:10.359 --> 01:58:13.119
<v Speaker 1>a certain Dan Riker is on. He's attempting to Oh,

2599
01:58:13.159 --> 01:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>he's currently watching it. Okay, he's attempting to explain how

2600
01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:18.439
<v Speaker 1>he puts his phone in his pocket. Since I greatly

2601
01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>value your collective input, if it's not too much trouble,

2602
01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:24.119
<v Speaker 1>please give us a live reaction to Dan as he

2603
01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:26.560
<v Speaker 1>demonstrates how to put his phone in his pocket. And

2604
01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>also please ask Dan what the fuck he is doing

2605
01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:31.319
<v Speaker 1>after you witness it. Thanks, This is very important. Jerry

2606
01:58:31.319 --> 01:58:33.159
<v Speaker 1>from Wisconsin. So Mary and I don't know.

2607
01:58:34.199 --> 01:58:36.760
<v Speaker 3>You haven't seen the clips or anything. So you're totally.

2608
01:58:36.520 --> 01:58:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Imagine based on the email. If you're doing well, it's.

2609
01:58:39.079 --> 01:58:42.039
<v Speaker 4>Okay, or maybe you will for the audio listener. For

2610
01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:44.880
<v Speaker 4>the audio listener, definitely describe what you're seeing here. Well,

2611
01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:47.680
<v Speaker 4>let me start by asking when you put your phone

2612
01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:48.840
<v Speaker 4>in your pocket?

2613
01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, now I'm wordy, I do it weird? Well?

2614
01:58:51.880 --> 01:58:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Which, first of all, which pocket you're doing?

2615
01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Front? You're doing? Back?

2616
01:58:55.159 --> 01:58:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I do front your front.

2617
01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Mary.

2618
01:58:58.239 --> 01:59:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we'rell on the same page here, screen out, screen.

2619
01:59:01.640 --> 01:59:06.800
<v Speaker 1>In, screen facing my thigh, Mary, I don't care.

2620
01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's probably reasonable. The charging port is that facing

2621
01:59:11.920 --> 01:59:14.880
<v Speaker 4>down into the pocket or up towards your face, facing

2622
01:59:15.239 --> 01:59:17.600
<v Speaker 4>up toward me like okay, I kind of treat it

2623
01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:20.359
<v Speaker 4>like a gun holster again, and I do not care

2624
01:59:20.800 --> 01:59:23.640
<v Speaker 4>or sa Mary. You're probably the reasonable one here. Okay, Mike,

2625
01:59:24.119 --> 01:59:26.000
<v Speaker 4>you were doing it the total opposite way of me.

2626
01:59:26.279 --> 01:59:30.199
<v Speaker 4>I do screen out, port down, and so this is

2627
01:59:30.239 --> 01:59:33.720
<v Speaker 4>what everyone freaked out about, is how you have to

2628
01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:35.439
<v Speaker 4>pull it out. So let's say, so I've got my

2629
01:59:35.479 --> 01:59:37.880
<v Speaker 4>phone in my pocket as described right now. Yeah, as always,

2630
01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:42.039
<v Speaker 4>it's poured down, screen out. So if someone's sending me

2631
01:59:42.119 --> 01:59:45.560
<v Speaker 4>a text, this is what I have to do. Okay,

2632
01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:47.560
<v Speaker 4>and just describe what I'm doing here because I'm in

2633
01:59:47.560 --> 01:59:47.960
<v Speaker 4>a backup.

2634
01:59:48.039 --> 01:59:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, he's backing up. Someone just send him a text. Okay.

2635
01:59:52.560 --> 01:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>He's realizing he just pulled it out. Wow, you just

2636
01:59:56.720 --> 01:59:59.079
<v Speaker 1>did like a one to eighty, like a but a

2637
01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:05.159
<v Speaker 1>forward gainer twirl with your one more time? Okay, sound okay,

2638
02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:08.760
<v Speaker 1>do it slower more slowly. He's slow motion. Am getting

2639
02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:15.479
<v Speaker 1>a text. Yeah, I think you got it's vibrating. It's

2640
02:00:15.520 --> 02:00:19.000
<v Speaker 1>like a gym. It's a fucking like twirl and a twist.

2641
02:00:19.319 --> 02:00:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Now let me ask, so you do port Yes, so

2642
02:00:22.319 --> 02:00:25.239
<v Speaker 1>watch screened. Well, okay, and then I'll try your way

2643
02:00:25.279 --> 02:00:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to Okay, tell me I'll get in a text. You're

2644
02:00:27.800 --> 02:00:28.600
<v Speaker 1>getting a text, Mike.

2645
02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:30.720
<v Speaker 2>This isn't how phones work.

2646
02:00:31.439 --> 02:00:32.800
<v Speaker 3>He had to do a little turn. He had do

2647
02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:34.279
<v Speaker 3>an inverted hand.

2648
02:00:34.439 --> 02:00:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to spin it. It was in my position,

2649
02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:37.560
<v Speaker 1>in my hand, I just flipped it.

2650
02:00:37.800 --> 02:00:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Now I've got my phone in my pocket. Mike's style

2651
02:00:40.039 --> 02:00:40.640
<v Speaker 3>weird style.

2652
02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Now let me try this. Yeah, to be clear, I

2653
02:00:43.840 --> 02:00:47.640
<v Speaker 1>pulled my phone out. And then you know, if you

2654
02:00:47.760 --> 02:00:50.600
<v Speaker 1>have a text, you have to cut. Yes, you're getting

2655
02:00:50.600 --> 02:00:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it getting a text?

2656
02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:57.520
<v Speaker 3>What There's so many more steps involved. If you do

2657
02:00:57.600 --> 02:00:58.359
<v Speaker 3>it your way, mic.

2658
02:00:58.399 --> 02:01:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I just showed you how to do it normally. If

2659
02:01:00.600 --> 02:01:01.079
<v Speaker 1>you put your.

2660
02:01:01.039 --> 02:01:02.199
<v Speaker 3>Hands, do it again.

2661
02:01:03.920 --> 02:01:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, you're getting a text. Okay, Wait, so what are

2662
02:01:06.800 --> 02:01:08.800
<v Speaker 4>you doing? Go slower so I can see. I'll try

2663
02:01:08.800 --> 02:01:09.239
<v Speaker 4>it your way.

2664
02:01:09.680 --> 02:01:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm reaching into. Let's do it on the outside

2665
02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:15.399
<v Speaker 1>of my pocket. Pretend it's X ray reaching in. I'm

2666
02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:18.199
<v Speaker 1>grabbing it. My hand is already in the position it's

2667
02:01:18.239 --> 02:01:20.479
<v Speaker 1>going to be when I finally read it. I pull

2668
02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:24.119
<v Speaker 1>it out and I look at my phone. Let me

2669
02:01:24.279 --> 02:01:26.399
<v Speaker 1>try like a gun like you don't let me make

2670
02:01:27.279 --> 02:01:29.359
<v Speaker 1>you're like doc holidaying with your phone.

2671
02:01:29.239 --> 02:01:32.920
<v Speaker 4>And it's not necessary. So screen and so it's upstand

2672
02:01:32.920 --> 02:01:34.680
<v Speaker 4>down both ways. Okay, it's not up.

2673
02:01:35.319 --> 02:01:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Am I getting a text? Go? Yes? You are? What?

2674
02:01:42.760 --> 02:01:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Is he so fucked up?

2675
02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:45.399
<v Speaker 3>When I pull it out of my pocket that way?

2676
02:01:45.640 --> 02:01:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I was at first trying to do it your way,

2677
02:01:48.520 --> 02:01:50.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's upside down first and up first. I have

2678
02:01:51.039 --> 02:01:53.079
<v Speaker 1>to are you sure you're doing it my way? Because

2679
02:01:53.079 --> 02:01:55.720
<v Speaker 1>at first I thought you were. You're saying upside down

2680
02:01:56.199 --> 02:01:59.159
<v Speaker 1>screen in so let me try. Let's see you know what? Okay,

2681
02:01:59.279 --> 02:02:02.079
<v Speaker 1>so this is time. Look here's here's the camera on

2682
02:02:02.199 --> 02:02:05.159
<v Speaker 1>my phone. Literally it's flipped upside down like that.

2683
02:02:05.920 --> 02:02:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the camera.

2684
02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You see that? Yes? Put okay, yes, okay, slip it

2685
02:02:10.000 --> 02:02:11.479
<v Speaker 1>into your pocket and don't let go of the phone.

2686
02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Don't let go the phone. Now pull it out the

2687
02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:17.199
<v Speaker 1>same way you just put it in. Do the reverse,

2688
02:02:17.279 --> 02:02:17.880
<v Speaker 1>b just.

2689
02:02:20.720 --> 02:02:22.680
<v Speaker 5>Just do the reverse of how you put it into

2690
02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:31.680
<v Speaker 5>your pocket. We're so confused how simple it is.

2691
02:02:32.119 --> 02:02:33.359
<v Speaker 2>It can't be that simple.

2692
02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:35.039
<v Speaker 3>That is better?

2693
02:02:36.760 --> 02:02:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you go no, no, no, no, Yeah, he

2694
02:02:41.800 --> 02:02:46.119
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what to do. To be clear, I get.

2695
02:02:46.800 --> 02:02:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I get how muscle memory is a powerful thing, Like

2696
02:02:50.199 --> 02:02:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I have you had a shower before? Well we talked

2697
02:02:53.239 --> 02:02:55.279
<v Speaker 1>too much about showers last time when you yeah, stop,

2698
02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it feels weird what you're doing because you did one

2699
02:02:58.000 --> 02:02:59.479
<v Speaker 1>thing out of order, like, oh god, I got to

2700
02:02:59.520 --> 02:03:01.560
<v Speaker 1>start over. Like I get it, but I'm trying to

2701
02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:04.800
<v Speaker 1>figure out what you're doing. You you had to do

2702
02:03:04.920 --> 02:03:07.680
<v Speaker 1>like two full spins, so let me go slow my way.

2703
02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I have to describe it to listeners. I I don't

2704
02:03:10.199 --> 02:03:18.199
<v Speaker 1>know how it looks like this way, So I'm going

2705
02:03:18.640 --> 02:03:25.479
<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. I mean that's that's definitely not as simple

2706
02:03:25.479 --> 02:03:30.000
<v Speaker 1>as I right, no, but there's no but the way

2707
02:03:30.039 --> 02:03:34.199
<v Speaker 1>you just did it, it's almost like in order to

2708
02:03:34.399 --> 02:03:36.680
<v Speaker 1>do what you just did when your phone is put

2709
02:03:36.720 --> 02:03:39.239
<v Speaker 1>in your pocket like I do, instead of just going

2710
02:03:39.319 --> 02:03:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to the simplest route like I just showed you, your

2711
02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:44.039
<v Speaker 1>body' is like, oh, we need to do hours and

2712
02:03:44.199 --> 02:03:49.039
<v Speaker 1>then a ring like account for the second one.

2713
02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I'm gonna have to like, look, I don't understand.

2714
02:03:53.239 --> 02:03:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Keep doing what you've been doing.

2715
02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You can do whatever you want. There's a reason that

2716
02:03:56.800 --> 02:04:01.039
<v Speaker 2>when cops holster their gune, when that they put their

2717
02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:05.000
<v Speaker 2>hand in the holster, it's in the exact position that

2718
02:04:05.159 --> 02:04:08.039
<v Speaker 2>it needs to be to use the gun. And I

2719
02:04:08.199 --> 02:04:10.960
<v Speaker 2>ask you, have you ever seen a cop where they

2720
02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:13.960
<v Speaker 2>have to take the gun and then turn it around

2721
02:04:14.119 --> 02:04:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and flip it.

2722
02:04:15.439 --> 02:04:15.760
<v Speaker 1>They did.

2723
02:04:16.920 --> 02:04:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow, there's a lot of.

2724
02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Things where they could do it to the Wild West

2725
02:04:19.560 --> 02:04:21.479
<v Speaker 1>gun thing, because I like to think of Dan going

2726
02:04:21.520 --> 02:04:24.119
<v Speaker 1>into the middle of like this, like there's a tumbleweed

2727
02:04:24.199 --> 02:04:30.079
<v Speaker 1>goes by challenges to a duel. Yeah, the revolver gun. Yeah,

2728
02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:33.119
<v Speaker 1>your gun. In this metaphor, the barrel would be pointing

2729
02:04:33.239 --> 02:04:37.800
<v Speaker 1>up and the handle would be forward. Look if I

2730
02:04:37.880 --> 02:04:39.640
<v Speaker 1>as long as I get there quick enough, that's all

2731
02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the other.

2732
02:04:42.840 --> 02:04:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Off's work.

2733
02:04:44.680 --> 02:04:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, the part where I.

2734
02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:48.560
<v Speaker 4>Got extra confusing was I was like, oh God, is

2735
02:04:48.600 --> 02:04:50.800
<v Speaker 4>this some stupid thing that like, is this a genetic thing?

2736
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:53.439
<v Speaker 4>I called my dad on the dump truck live and

2737
02:04:53.479 --> 02:04:55.279
<v Speaker 4>I put them on a speakerphone. It was like, Dad,

2738
02:04:55.760 --> 02:04:59.239
<v Speaker 4>when you put your phone in your pocket, is it

2739
02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:00.520
<v Speaker 4>screen out screen in?

2740
02:05:00.880 --> 02:05:02.760
<v Speaker 3>And he said, it's facing my ass.

2741
02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:06.239
<v Speaker 1>How he goes back pocket. It's back pocket, I think,

2742
02:05:06.720 --> 02:05:09.159
<v Speaker 1>am I correct in thinking a lot more women put

2743
02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:11.600
<v Speaker 1>their phone in their back pocket? I think because of

2744
02:05:11.680 --> 02:05:14.119
<v Speaker 1>pant I think women have pant pocket.

2745
02:05:13.920 --> 02:05:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Option is thatationally, front pockets in our pants are deceptively shallow,

2746
02:05:20.239 --> 02:05:25.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's to allow for like maximum thinness. We look

2747
02:05:25.920 --> 02:05:28.920
<v Speaker 2>really streamlined. But I do think that our pants in

2748
02:05:29.039 --> 02:05:31.880
<v Speaker 2>general are sexist. My favorite dresses have pockets.

2749
02:05:32.520 --> 02:05:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Okays are great. We should bring cargo pants back?

2750
02:05:35.720 --> 02:05:37.720
<v Speaker 1>They are there? Are they? Yeah?

2751
02:05:38.520 --> 02:05:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Good news?

2752
02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:43.439
<v Speaker 1>Dan? Yeah? Really? Could I get wearing cargo pants a

2753
02:05:43.479 --> 02:05:47.039
<v Speaker 1>good I mean there's a third they're they're like I

2754
02:05:47.039 --> 02:05:49.159
<v Speaker 1>don't know what brands are selling, but there's like nice

2755
02:05:49.239 --> 02:05:50.000
<v Speaker 1>ones of people are.

2756
02:05:50.359 --> 02:05:51.239
<v Speaker 2>Par of Jenko's.

2757
02:05:51.359 --> 02:05:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Dan.

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02:05:52.319 --> 02:05:54.239
<v Speaker 4>No, I even back in the day, I was in

2759
02:05:54.399 --> 02:05:58.479
<v Speaker 4>the ground zero of Jinko's culture, and I never I

2760
02:05:58.800 --> 02:06:01.119
<v Speaker 4>was too afraid to do jink I don't want to

2761
02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:03.119
<v Speaker 4>stand out hanging off of you.

2762
02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to stand out.

2763
02:06:06.680 --> 02:06:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Like a loose fit. Yeah, like these are these are

2764
02:06:10.520 --> 02:06:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll send it to discord. These are in now? I

2765
02:06:12.479 --> 02:06:14.439
<v Speaker 1>see these a fair amount more and more every day

2766
02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like that, you've probably seen these four Now that you

2767
02:06:18.600 --> 02:06:20.840
<v Speaker 1>think of it, kind of a bit baggy, loose fitting,

2768
02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but like the olive green okay, like gapscot One something.

2769
02:06:30.960 --> 02:06:32.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, cargo.

2770
02:06:32.479 --> 02:06:34.800
<v Speaker 4>That's great, especially now because I always want to carry

2771
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:37.039
<v Speaker 4>around a bunch of like handheld and stuff.

2772
02:06:37.079 --> 02:06:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Remember remember Carpenter jeans with the hammer loop. Did you

2773
02:06:40.279 --> 02:06:41.640
<v Speaker 1>wear those? Was? No?

2774
02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Again, I never wore anything that was in style. I

2775
02:06:44.399 --> 02:06:46.960
<v Speaker 4>just didn't want to be noticed ever. So just like

2776
02:06:47.119 --> 02:06:51.479
<v Speaker 4>plain colors and normal pants and nothing in trend ever.

2777
02:06:51.760 --> 02:06:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, but anyway, Yeah, I keep doing what

2778
02:06:57.119 --> 02:07:00.359
<v Speaker 1>works for you, but I I will, but I do.

2779
02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:02.479
<v Speaker 1>You did help me there.

2780
02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:06.560
<v Speaker 4>I think doing it outside the pants I think showed

2781
02:07:06.600 --> 02:07:10.239
<v Speaker 4>me that, like, oh that is a pretty smooth Yeah.

2782
02:07:12.159 --> 02:07:12.880
<v Speaker 2>You all thought it.

2783
02:07:13.399 --> 02:07:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twist it's like part of your like little mini

2784
02:07:17.399 --> 02:07:18.319
<v Speaker 1>routines throughout the day.

2785
02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:21.680
<v Speaker 2>You can't do it. You can open your phone however

2786
02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:24.079
<v Speaker 2>you want. I think they just want the acknowledgment that

2787
02:07:24.199 --> 02:07:26.399
<v Speaker 2>it's not it was street.

2788
02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:29.640
<v Speaker 1>It was confusing that you thought that was the simplest way.

2789
02:07:31.000 --> 02:07:32.840
<v Speaker 3>I never I just never thought about it ever. It's

2790
02:07:32.840 --> 02:07:34.199
<v Speaker 3>just like that's how you put your phone in your pocket.

2791
02:07:34.640 --> 02:07:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I will say I think that's it.

2792
02:07:40.199 --> 02:07:42.439
<v Speaker 4>It's like I'm not going to intentionally ever put something

2793
02:07:42.560 --> 02:07:43.600
<v Speaker 4>upside down.

2794
02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:46.079
<v Speaker 1>But it would just be so Honestly, Now, the more

2795
02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I think about it, kind of is weird because that

2796
02:07:47.720 --> 02:07:52.479
<v Speaker 1>would be relliant, that would be more. It's it's not

2797
02:07:52.640 --> 02:07:56.439
<v Speaker 1>the screen facing out that messes with me. It's the

2798
02:07:56.800 --> 02:07:59.399
<v Speaker 1>charging port, the bottom of the phone being at the bottom.

2799
02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:02.720
<v Speaker 3>That's them. But that's the bottom. What's the bottom of

2800
02:08:02.720 --> 02:08:03.720
<v Speaker 3>your body? Your feet?

2801
02:08:03.920 --> 02:08:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree that it's the bottom of the phone.

2802
02:08:05.600 --> 02:08:10.279
<v Speaker 1>It literally it is, but you're not. That's not how

2803
02:08:10.560 --> 02:08:15.840
<v Speaker 1>like pockets work. Again, that's my like. That is the

2804
02:08:15.920 --> 02:08:17.439
<v Speaker 1>barrel of the gun facing up.

2805
02:08:17.960 --> 02:08:21.119
<v Speaker 4>When you put your wallet in your pocket? Are all

2806
02:08:21.239 --> 02:08:26.199
<v Speaker 4>of the dollar bills upside down? No one thinks about that.

2807
02:08:28.319 --> 02:08:30.319
<v Speaker 4>I can't even follow my own dumb logic.

2808
02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:34.039
<v Speaker 1>That I put in actually.

2809
02:08:35.359 --> 02:08:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Heads facing of.

2810
02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not that O use a do use

2811
02:08:41.920 --> 02:08:43.760
<v Speaker 1>a bifold wallet? I'm kidding.

2812
02:08:43.840 --> 02:08:46.560
<v Speaker 3>I got one of those minimalist gimmicks. If it's like

2813
02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:47.600
<v Speaker 3>five cards, yeah.

2814
02:08:47.640 --> 02:08:50.479
<v Speaker 1>I still use a wallet, I will say. People who

2815
02:08:50.560 --> 02:08:54.000
<v Speaker 1>put their wallet, I'm curious now if there are anybody

2816
02:08:54.680 --> 02:09:01.159
<v Speaker 1>who puts their wallet in their pocket. Crease up, open

2817
02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:03.600
<v Speaker 1>part down, No, open part down is what I do

2818
02:09:04.319 --> 02:09:08.880
<v Speaker 1>really that feels. It feels if it's like the open

2819
02:09:08.920 --> 02:09:13.079
<v Speaker 1>party is near the opening, there's too much open it down.

2820
02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I could see that logic, but I feel like it's

2821
02:09:16.680 --> 02:09:21.159
<v Speaker 1>more likely it will like something will fall out into

2822
02:09:21.239 --> 02:09:25.439
<v Speaker 1>my like be less secure. And also again, when I

2823
02:09:25.560 --> 02:09:27.960
<v Speaker 1>pull it out, it's already at the facing the way

2824
02:09:28.039 --> 02:09:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to be.

2825
02:09:30.840 --> 02:09:34.359
<v Speaker 4>Straight out wallet, but the opening is facing up. All

2826
02:09:34.760 --> 02:09:36.600
<v Speaker 4>things would fall out if they were facing down.

2827
02:09:36.680 --> 02:09:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. Well, thank you from Jerry in Wisconsin. Uh, Dan,

2828
02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you want to read this one. This is not necessarily

2829
02:09:47.920 --> 02:09:50.159
<v Speaker 1>for me. It just mentions an example of me at first.

2830
02:09:50.680 --> 02:09:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Sure, I fire Escape a fair while ago. Mike spoke

2831
02:09:54.039 --> 02:09:57.239
<v Speaker 4>about House of Leaves. His description sounded intriguing, and I

2832
02:09:57.319 --> 02:09:59.800
<v Speaker 4>finally got around to starting it this last week, about

2833
02:09:59.800 --> 02:10:01.680
<v Speaker 4>half way through and loving it. The structure is so

2834
02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:04.760
<v Speaker 4>interesting in the plot is extremely creepy and compelling. My

2835
02:10:04.920 --> 02:10:07.159
<v Speaker 4>question is, do any of you have any recommendations in

2836
02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:10.000
<v Speaker 4>this vein for books, movies, games, or any other media

2837
02:10:10.079 --> 02:10:12.960
<v Speaker 4>that play with the form of the medium to create

2838
02:10:13.079 --> 02:10:15.640
<v Speaker 4>interesting new ways to tell a narrative. The only other

2839
02:10:15.680 --> 02:10:17.439
<v Speaker 4>examples I can think of are the game The Beginner's

2840
02:10:17.439 --> 02:10:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Guide or any of the games made by Remedy, Alan Wake,

2841
02:10:19.640 --> 02:10:21.359
<v Speaker 4>one of two Control, et cetera. I would love to

2842
02:10:21.399 --> 02:10:23.439
<v Speaker 4>hear any of all thoughts on this topic. Thanks Will

2843
02:10:23.479 --> 02:10:25.800
<v Speaker 4>from Australia. Yeah, oh hell yeah, that's a fun topic.

2844
02:10:26.359 --> 02:10:28.520
<v Speaker 4>So many Yeah, well so your Beginner's guide.

2845
02:10:28.640 --> 02:10:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Check out Stanley Parable for sure, especially Stanley Parable, get

2846
02:10:32.920 --> 02:10:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the Deluxe, additional Ultra Deluxe, play the original content and

2847
02:10:37.760 --> 02:10:39.560
<v Speaker 1>then do stuff after.

2848
02:10:40.319 --> 02:10:41.359
<v Speaker 3>That's one of the best of that.

2849
02:10:42.920 --> 02:10:45.439
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, metal Gear, like metal Gear does a lot of

2850
02:10:45.600 --> 02:10:47.880
<v Speaker 4>just kind of playing with like you know, the interaction

2851
02:10:48.039 --> 02:10:50.039
<v Speaker 4>of a player in a game and things like that.

2852
02:10:50.239 --> 02:10:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Mental Gear is great at that I.

2853
02:10:51.479 --> 02:10:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Mentioned it earlier. This isn't as much as like picking

2854
02:10:58.159 --> 02:11:00.920
<v Speaker 1>apart how games are played. But I do love like

2855
02:11:01.039 --> 02:11:06.239
<v Speaker 1>her story and I didn't I didn't fully like what

2856
02:11:06.399 --> 02:11:08.479
<v Speaker 1>was the video editing one from like two years ago

2857
02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Sam Barlow as well, Yeah, Immortality. I didn't love the

2858
02:11:12.760 --> 02:11:15.439
<v Speaker 1>game overall, but I did like the gameplay concept of

2859
02:11:15.640 --> 02:11:18.319
<v Speaker 1>scrubbing through timelines to find like frames that were out

2860
02:11:18.319 --> 02:11:21.279
<v Speaker 1>of place. Sure, so anything by Sam Barlow.

2861
02:11:20.960 --> 02:11:24.760
<v Speaker 2>And her story is brilliant and I really appreciate you

2862
02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:28.119
<v Speaker 2>bringing it up because I think it really does mix

2863
02:11:28.399 --> 02:11:31.960
<v Speaker 2>people who love maybe like a book that's like a

2864
02:11:32.479 --> 02:11:38.279
<v Speaker 2>who Done It? Or murder mystery or where is She? Discovery?

2865
02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:41.399
<v Speaker 2>But the game is the only way where that you

2866
02:11:41.520 --> 02:11:47.239
<v Speaker 2>can actually have a choose your own ending novel, and

2867
02:11:47.720 --> 02:11:50.560
<v Speaker 2>it is the perfect use of game as a medium.

2868
02:11:51.720 --> 02:11:54.319
<v Speaker 2>But you get to discover it and read it your way,

2869
02:11:54.439 --> 02:11:57.159
<v Speaker 2>And so I really think her story is genius in that.

2870
02:11:57.319 --> 02:11:59.039
<v Speaker 2>So I just appreciate you saying that. I think that's

2871
02:11:59.079 --> 02:12:01.720
<v Speaker 2>like one of the best exams of like a genre bending.

2872
02:12:02.159 --> 02:12:05.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a book, it's a movie, it's a game. It's

2873
02:12:05.359 --> 02:12:08.279
<v Speaker 2>all three, and it's the best as a game. It

2874
02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:10.159
<v Speaker 2>has to be a game for it to work.

2875
02:12:11.399 --> 02:12:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I still like Cabin in the Woods. I went back

2876
02:12:15.880 --> 02:12:17.920
<v Speaker 1>to it recently. I was wondering if it was going

2877
02:12:18.000 --> 02:12:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to be like, has this not aged well? Was I

2878
02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:23.079
<v Speaker 1>just like in my college years, thinking oh, this is great.

2879
02:12:23.560 --> 02:12:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't like most shit Joss Whedon does in retrospect, but.

2880
02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:28.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh I didn't know that was Josh Whedon.

2881
02:12:28.600 --> 02:12:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Cabin in the Woods. Unfortunately, I still like quite

2882
02:12:32.199 --> 02:12:32.479
<v Speaker 1>a bit.

2883
02:12:32.960 --> 02:12:35.560
<v Speaker 2>It's very it's such a good movie.

2884
02:12:35.960 --> 02:12:40.319
<v Speaker 1>It's so fucking fun. It's still just for it yeah,

2885
02:12:40.760 --> 02:12:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it like keeps video gamy.

2886
02:12:43.199 --> 02:12:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Changing your expectations every time you think something is going

2887
02:12:47.319 --> 02:12:50.479
<v Speaker 2>to happen. It's like fucking with you. I think it's

2888
02:12:50.920 --> 02:12:53.399
<v Speaker 2>very well done. That's such a good you're killing it.

2889
02:12:53.520 --> 02:12:55.479
<v Speaker 2>These are like examples I wish I came up with.

2890
02:12:55.520 --> 02:12:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Those are These are all like fart sniffy games. So

2891
02:12:57.920 --> 02:12:59.279
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. I love it.

2892
02:12:59.520 --> 02:13:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that stuff.

2893
02:13:01.000 --> 02:13:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Those are all But is there subtext?

2894
02:13:04.680 --> 02:13:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Is what I want to know?

2895
02:13:06.399 --> 02:13:08.039
<v Speaker 3>This is probably about capitalists?

2896
02:13:08.159 --> 02:13:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh the t tarriffs?

2897
02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:20.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeh, smartly?

2898
02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think about it? And then and then and

2899
02:13:29.600 --> 02:13:36.199
<v Speaker 1>then there's and then the met and the terriffs. Have

2900
02:13:36.319 --> 02:13:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you wait, have either of you read going back to

2901
02:13:39.199 --> 02:13:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the original email, have either of you read House of Leaves?

2902
02:13:42.039 --> 02:13:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I own it.

2903
02:13:43.359 --> 02:13:47.640
<v Speaker 4>I always liked the idea of it because like the

2904
02:13:47.680 --> 02:13:50.960
<v Speaker 4>gimmick of like, you know, the house that's bigger on

2905
02:13:51.000 --> 02:13:52.920
<v Speaker 4>the inside than it is on the outside. And then

2906
02:13:53.000 --> 02:13:55.479
<v Speaker 4>like I've seen the pages where it's like it works.

2907
02:13:55.520 --> 02:13:57.760
<v Speaker 4>There's blank pages and there's one of the texts spiraling

2908
02:13:57.800 --> 02:14:00.439
<v Speaker 4>around like I like gimmicks, Like it seems kimmicking in

2909
02:14:00.520 --> 02:14:02.039
<v Speaker 4>a good way, and I like good gimmicks.

2910
02:14:02.159 --> 02:14:03.680
<v Speaker 3>And so I've always wanted to read it.

2911
02:14:03.720 --> 02:14:07.039
<v Speaker 1>It's got control vibes for sure, like remedy, remedy, like

2912
02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Riley and Sam Lake absolutely like that helped inspire

2913
02:14:15.760 --> 02:14:21.680
<v Speaker 1>control among other things. I think. Actually that's two things

2914
02:14:21.720 --> 02:14:25.159
<v Speaker 1>now that just came to mind as well. SCP Foundation.

2915
02:14:25.439 --> 02:14:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys know that internet archives?

2916
02:14:27.159 --> 02:14:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I've heard of that.

2917
02:14:28.239 --> 02:14:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are still fun. Every once in a while,

2918
02:14:30.960 --> 02:14:33.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll like if I'm like, if I have Wi Fi

2919
02:14:33.600 --> 02:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and a plane or something. Actually, actually I had a

2920
02:14:36.439 --> 02:14:39.159
<v Speaker 1>weird one where I came across a plane horror story

2921
02:14:39.239 --> 02:14:41.039
<v Speaker 1>on SCP while I was on a plane, so maybe

2922
02:14:41.119 --> 02:14:45.119
<v Speaker 1>be careful. It's an internet archive. That's basically if you're

2923
02:14:45.319 --> 02:14:49.479
<v Speaker 1>into the environmental storytelling in Control, it's very much that

2924
02:14:49.920 --> 02:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like CIA that hunts down and covers up supernatural shit

2925
02:14:55.039 --> 02:14:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that they don't want people to know about, and it's

2926
02:14:56.560 --> 02:15:01.239
<v Speaker 1>really eerie and surreal and off putting. There's also that

2927
02:15:01.439 --> 02:15:10.439
<v Speaker 1>other one, the backways hallways spaces, and that's very video

2928
02:15:10.560 --> 02:15:12.199
<v Speaker 1>game of fight and it's actually now, I got to

2929
02:15:12.279 --> 02:15:12.800
<v Speaker 1>let me look.

2930
02:15:12.640 --> 02:15:13.239
<v Speaker 3>At this, Mary.

2931
02:15:13.239 --> 02:15:15.199
<v Speaker 4>When we were in Portland, Cee and you, our uber

2932
02:15:15.319 --> 02:15:17.439
<v Speaker 4>driver was asking about what we did, and we brought

2933
02:15:17.520 --> 02:15:19.159
<v Speaker 4>up video games and he brought up this game and

2934
02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:21.039
<v Speaker 4>it's like we had not heard of it before, and

2935
02:15:21.079 --> 02:15:23.119
<v Speaker 4>it's like this sounds fucking crazy, and well.

2936
02:15:22.960 --> 02:15:25.359
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. That's such a fun interaction to have.

2937
02:15:25.680 --> 02:15:29.800
<v Speaker 4>Ye, it was a great talk. Yeah, backways, Oh god, somebody,

2938
02:15:29.960 --> 02:15:32.319
<v Speaker 4>it's like a big building. There's different floors and stuff.

2939
02:15:32.439 --> 02:15:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Right the back back rooms. So just yeah, what is

2940
02:15:34.920 --> 02:15:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the website? It's actually really cool. It's so it's at

2941
02:15:37.680 --> 02:15:41.159
<v Speaker 1>its core, it's a collaborative fiction project that structured like

2942
02:15:41.319 --> 02:15:44.560
<v Speaker 1>SEP Foundation. If you just go to it's basically a

2943
02:15:44.600 --> 02:15:48.520
<v Speaker 1>wiki and it's designed for you to go down individual

2944
02:15:48.680 --> 02:15:51.079
<v Speaker 1>rabbit holes and if you want to write some stuff

2945
02:15:51.159 --> 02:15:53.760
<v Speaker 1>for it, you have to post photos and you have

2946
02:15:53.840 --> 02:15:56.359
<v Speaker 1>to describe the rules of how they got there. It's

2947
02:15:56.520 --> 02:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the fiction is like once someone gets into the back rooms,

2948
02:16:00.560 --> 02:16:05.520
<v Speaker 1>they're caught there forever. But most of the photos start

2949
02:16:05.600 --> 02:16:09.720
<v Speaker 1>with like liminal spaces, like abandoned. There's the one that

2950
02:16:09.880 --> 02:16:12.520
<v Speaker 1>really has stuck with me. Did you guys ever go

2951
02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:16.439
<v Speaker 1>into the back hallways like the maintenance corridors at your mall?

2952
02:16:18.520 --> 02:16:20.479
<v Speaker 4>I've been in those type of things that like a

2953
02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:23.720
<v Speaker 4>bunch of like arenas and different so I feel like

2954
02:16:23.840 --> 02:16:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I know what you're talking.

2955
02:16:25.960 --> 02:16:28.199
<v Speaker 1>I used to. I met someone who worked down in

2956
02:16:28.239 --> 02:16:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the food court when I was working on My first

2957
02:16:29.800 --> 02:16:31.680
<v Speaker 1>job was at the movie theater Regal Cinema is the

2958
02:16:31.800 --> 02:16:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Carousel Ball at the time. It's now Destiny and Syracuse.

2959
02:16:34.319 --> 02:16:38.280
<v Speaker 1>And to get from the movie theater, which was third floor,

2960
02:16:38.879 --> 02:16:42.799
<v Speaker 1>I used to have to go across these two walkways

2961
02:16:42.840 --> 02:16:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and I'm terrified of heights, and the center of this

2962
02:16:45.440 --> 02:16:47.520
<v Speaker 1>mall is big and open, and I would hate going

2963
02:16:47.520 --> 02:16:51.319
<v Speaker 1>across the hallways. I got a new conversation with someone

2964
02:16:51.360 --> 02:16:53.000
<v Speaker 1>at the time who worked down in the food court,

2965
02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was saying, I hate having to walk across

2966
02:16:55.719 --> 02:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>those to get back to the main escalator. She's like, Oh,

2967
02:16:57.719 --> 02:17:00.159
<v Speaker 1>just take the back stairs down the back hallway. I'm

2968
02:17:00.159 --> 02:17:01.760
<v Speaker 1>out behind the taco bell and you'll be near the

2969
02:17:01.840 --> 02:17:04.319
<v Speaker 1>parking lot. I'm like, oh, wouldn't I be in trouble.

2970
02:17:04.399 --> 02:17:06.799
<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, you work here. No one gives a

2971
02:17:06.799 --> 02:17:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Shit's not like the custodian's gonna be like, hey, what

2972
02:17:09.079 --> 02:17:10.879
<v Speaker 1>are you doing. You're in a fucking the red Polo

2973
02:17:10.920 --> 02:17:12.479
<v Speaker 1>shirt that says Regal Cinema. I was like, all right,

2974
02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:14.559
<v Speaker 1>I guess like this is what it feels like to

2975
02:17:15.000 --> 02:17:18.440
<v Speaker 1>have some privilege. And then so I went down, And

2976
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:20.319
<v Speaker 1>there are certain nights when I got out at like

2977
02:17:20.479 --> 02:17:25.239
<v Speaker 1>two am, after Resistance with Daniel Craig had ended, and

2978
02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I cleaned up the final movie theater and I went

2979
02:17:28.120 --> 02:17:31.079
<v Speaker 1>down and it would be just empty and eerie, and

2980
02:17:31.200 --> 02:17:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it was so weird because I knew this whole public

2981
02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:34.879
<v Speaker 1>space was right next to me, but there was no

2982
02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:37.280
<v Speaker 1>one in these ways. It felt like I was trespassing

2983
02:17:37.799 --> 02:17:39.600
<v Speaker 1>even though I hadn't. So the back Rooms is very

2984
02:17:39.680 --> 02:17:44.280
<v Speaker 1>much about those quote unquote liminal spaces. Sure, abandoned places

2985
02:17:44.319 --> 02:17:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that used to have a purpose. Now they just feel

2986
02:17:46.239 --> 02:17:48.479
<v Speaker 1>like they're floating in the middle of nowhere, and it's

2987
02:17:48.479 --> 02:17:50.520
<v Speaker 1>actually kind of cool. You can lose hours. It's just

2988
02:17:50.760 --> 02:17:52.559
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever gone down a wiki rabbit hole, that's

2989
02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:54.680
<v Speaker 1>what it is like. Oh so to get to level three,

2990
02:17:54.799 --> 02:17:58.719
<v Speaker 1>which is just these like abandoned underground maintenance corridors with

2991
02:17:58.760 --> 02:18:02.639
<v Speaker 1>pipes running, and then oh, if you get to level four,

2992
02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:05.360
<v Speaker 1>no one's ever come out, and then there's different factions

2993
02:18:05.399 --> 02:18:06.959
<v Speaker 1>down there. I don't like that stuff. I just like

2994
02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the horror more. It's like it's pitch black. There's no noise,

2995
02:18:12.000 --> 02:18:15.360
<v Speaker 1>supposedly we did find a no then how would they

2996
02:18:15.399 --> 02:18:17.360
<v Speaker 1>have escaped? I don't know. They're like, if you get

2997
02:18:17.399 --> 02:18:19.559
<v Speaker 1>down there, there's been rumors that there's a pitch black

2998
02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:22.479
<v Speaker 1>level and it stretches on for as long as like Canada,

2999
02:18:22.879 --> 02:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>and no one's ever gotten out and they can't see

3000
02:18:25.000 --> 02:18:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and then they have to feel their way around the

3001
02:18:26.520 --> 02:18:28.920
<v Speaker 1>walls and map it out like that. It's cool, but

3002
02:18:29.040 --> 02:18:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it plays with the act of going down a rabbit

3003
02:18:32.079 --> 02:18:34.000
<v Speaker 1>hole in a really interesting way. And also some of

3004
02:18:34.040 --> 02:18:36.879
<v Speaker 1>the people on there super talented writers. There's actually a

3005
02:18:37.040 --> 02:18:41.120
<v Speaker 1>young game developer who I don't know what the progress is,

3006
02:18:41.200 --> 02:18:43.360
<v Speaker 1>but was making a video game based on it, and

3007
02:18:43.479 --> 02:18:45.479
<v Speaker 1>people are like, when's it happening, when's coming out? I

3008
02:18:45.520 --> 02:18:49.319
<v Speaker 1>think it's on Steam like the preview page. But yeah,

3009
02:18:49.399 --> 02:18:51.319
<v Speaker 1>super cool stuff. I have two.

3010
02:18:53.399 --> 02:18:57.200
<v Speaker 2>I think Dokye Dokie Literature Club belongs in here because

3011
02:18:57.719 --> 02:19:01.719
<v Speaker 2>it is genre bending where you think you're having an

3012
02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:04.559
<v Speaker 2>experience and it's not the experience you expected. Dan, do

3013
02:19:04.600 --> 02:19:05.760
<v Speaker 2>you know anything about dokyduk?

3014
02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:07.719
<v Speaker 3>You literally a vis right?

3015
02:19:08.079 --> 02:19:14.600
<v Speaker 2>It is, yeah, but it takes he knows he It

3016
02:19:14.719 --> 02:19:19.040
<v Speaker 2>takes large twists and turns, and it also does really

3017
02:19:19.280 --> 02:19:22.639
<v Speaker 2>fun stuff where it like it self quits if that

3018
02:19:22.719 --> 02:19:25.239
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. It does the thing there's a bit of

3019
02:19:25.280 --> 02:19:28.079
<v Speaker 2>a spoiler, but I think it's it helps to answer this,

3020
02:19:28.239 --> 02:19:32.079
<v Speaker 2>which is like it does this thing where like it

3021
02:19:32.239 --> 02:19:34.639
<v Speaker 2>says it's going to quit the game, but you're still

3022
02:19:34.719 --> 02:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>in the game, and it even like shows you the

3023
02:19:38.959 --> 02:19:42.280
<v Speaker 2>file of where the game is on your computer. Shit

3024
02:19:42.440 --> 02:19:45.559
<v Speaker 2>like that. It fucks with you. Yeah, And I think

3025
02:19:45.600 --> 02:19:48.159
<v Speaker 2>that's so brilliant where it's like, we know you're playing

3026
02:19:48.200 --> 02:19:51.120
<v Speaker 2>a game, but that doesn't mean you're out, bitch, like

3027
02:19:51.239 --> 02:19:53.600
<v Speaker 2>you think you can quit me. That shit is so

3028
02:19:54.200 --> 02:19:56.879
<v Speaker 2>sick when it does stuff like that. Another game that

3029
02:19:56.959 --> 02:20:01.440
<v Speaker 2>does that is Inscription. Inscription as a section where it

3030
02:20:01.559 --> 02:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>actually shows you files on your computer and says, I'm

3031
02:20:04.639 --> 02:20:07.319
<v Speaker 2>going to delete this permanently off your computer if you

3032
02:20:07.479 --> 02:20:10.200
<v Speaker 2>don't do what I say, And it might show you

3033
02:20:10.280 --> 02:20:12.760
<v Speaker 2>a file that you really like, right like it might

3034
02:20:12.879 --> 02:20:16.399
<v Speaker 2>show you like me and Me Ma Photos twenty eighteen

3035
02:20:16.479 --> 02:20:18.639
<v Speaker 2>and you'll be like, I can't lose this. And it's

3036
02:20:18.719 --> 02:20:22.639
<v Speaker 2>just like, it's very interesting that it actually searches your

3037
02:20:22.719 --> 02:20:26.239
<v Speaker 2>fucking hard drive for files that you personally have and

3038
02:20:26.360 --> 02:20:29.680
<v Speaker 2>then throws it back in your face as a way

3039
02:20:29.760 --> 02:20:31.959
<v Speaker 2>to like whether or not you are going to be

3040
02:20:32.000 --> 02:20:33.719
<v Speaker 2>able to get through that game. I think both of

3041
02:20:33.799 --> 02:20:37.200
<v Speaker 2>those examples are great games where they they literally play

3042
02:20:37.280 --> 02:20:41.360
<v Speaker 2>on your your brain that you can always quit the game,

3043
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:45.479
<v Speaker 2>and these games are like but can you? And I

3044
02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:50.600
<v Speaker 2>really respect that in the genre for going outside of

3045
02:20:50.680 --> 02:20:55.479
<v Speaker 2>the box of maybe you can't quit the game. Maybe

3046
02:20:55.559 --> 02:20:58.639
<v Speaker 2>the game is playing you and if you think you

3047
02:20:58.719 --> 02:21:01.520
<v Speaker 2>can leave, then this is we're like actually gonna fuck

3048
02:21:01.520 --> 02:21:03.600
<v Speaker 2>with you now and we're gonna get you such a

3049
02:21:03.680 --> 02:21:05.840
<v Speaker 2>good moment. Anytime a game can do.

3050
02:21:05.920 --> 02:21:08.879
<v Speaker 4>That to you, And that's the stuff that makes me

3051
02:21:08.959 --> 02:21:10.639
<v Speaker 4>think of like when I say Meddle, you're solid because

3052
02:21:10.680 --> 02:21:13.000
<v Speaker 4>like specifically the narrow down to one and two, you

3053
02:21:13.079 --> 02:21:15.159
<v Speaker 4>know one had the boss fight with Psychomantis where he's like,

3054
02:21:15.159 --> 02:21:17.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to read your mind and he reads your

3055
02:21:17.280 --> 02:21:19.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking PlayStation memory.

3056
02:21:18.719 --> 02:21:21.319
<v Speaker 3>Card like Castlevania Symphony the Night.

3057
02:21:21.959 --> 02:21:25.520
<v Speaker 4>That's my saying stuff based on like, oh, you easily

3058
02:21:25.600 --> 02:21:27.360
<v Speaker 4>fall for traps and he'll only say that if you

3059
02:21:27.399 --> 02:21:29.079
<v Speaker 4>fell into a bunch of traps and stuff like that.

3060
02:21:29.559 --> 02:21:32.719
<v Speaker 4>And then in two when like to the colonel calls

3061
02:21:32.760 --> 02:21:34.959
<v Speaker 4>like right, and you've been playing the game a long time,

3062
02:21:35.079 --> 02:21:37.120
<v Speaker 4>you should probably turn the game off. You should probably

3063
02:21:37.120 --> 02:21:39.120
<v Speaker 4>stop playing this video game. Like it's just like so

3064
02:21:39.239 --> 02:21:41.479
<v Speaker 4>many people were like, I've been playing for six hours.

3065
02:21:41.520 --> 02:21:42.639
<v Speaker 4>This points in the middle of the night, and the

3066
02:21:42.680 --> 02:21:44.799
<v Speaker 4>colonel's telling me, like to just turn off my PlayStation

3067
02:21:44.920 --> 02:21:45.319
<v Speaker 4>two and.

3068
02:21:46.440 --> 02:21:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Telling me to turn off my station two.

3069
02:21:48.879 --> 02:21:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Imagine a kid coming up to the like the living

3070
02:21:51.959 --> 02:21:54.159
<v Speaker 1>room and his mom didn't know what he was doing,

3071
02:21:54.280 --> 02:21:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and the kids like, yeah, the colonel told me to

3072
02:21:56.040 --> 02:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>stop playing. Yeah, like there one and two.

3073
02:22:00.399 --> 02:22:02.440
<v Speaker 4>I think, really, if you play one and then you

3074
02:22:02.520 --> 02:22:07.360
<v Speaker 4>played two, the entirety of two is just this commentary

3075
02:22:07.719 --> 02:22:11.760
<v Speaker 4>on expectations of a sequel and the player relationship to

3076
02:22:11.840 --> 02:22:14.760
<v Speaker 4>a character and stuff from controlling Solid Snake and stuff

3077
02:22:14.760 --> 02:22:16.520
<v Speaker 4>like that, and you were basically riding's kind of the

3078
02:22:16.559 --> 02:22:19.239
<v Speaker 4>surrogate for the player. It is you need to play

3079
02:22:19.280 --> 02:22:21.200
<v Speaker 4>both of them and then just look up a bunch

3080
02:22:21.280 --> 02:22:23.920
<v Speaker 4>of shit. And I'm sure there's a million YouTube videos

3081
02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:27.520
<v Speaker 4>about the subtext of two, and it is just I

3082
02:22:27.600 --> 02:22:29.440
<v Speaker 4>still think it's the most fascinating thing that video games

3083
02:22:29.479 --> 02:22:29.840
<v Speaker 4>have ever done.

3084
02:22:29.920 --> 02:22:30.840
<v Speaker 3>Is middle of your selid two.

3085
02:22:32.000 --> 02:22:34.559
<v Speaker 1>There, remind me have a few last ones or for

3086
02:22:34.719 --> 02:22:38.319
<v Speaker 1>me last ones monument Valley. Those mobile puzzle games. Third

3087
02:22:38.360 --> 02:22:41.920
<v Speaker 1>one just came out on Netflix recently through Netflix subscription.

3088
02:22:42.000 --> 02:22:43.760
<v Speaker 1>But the way you're kind of rotating your phone and

3089
02:22:44.079 --> 02:22:49.040
<v Speaker 1>playing with perspective, same with fees. Yeah, speaking of fez

3090
02:22:49.799 --> 02:22:52.440
<v Speaker 1>games that basically tell you up front you should have

3091
02:22:52.520 --> 02:22:55.079
<v Speaker 1>a notebook as an ancillary thing. Return of the ober

3092
02:22:55.200 --> 02:22:58.879
<v Speaker 1>Din Oh and LAURAAI and her Laser Eyes, which I

3093
02:22:58.920 --> 02:23:01.079
<v Speaker 1>still have. Sorry, Jake, I still have not played. I

3094
02:23:01.200 --> 02:23:03.959
<v Speaker 1>need to. I told Jake it's top of my list.

3095
02:23:04.559 --> 02:23:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Simogo the top of my list. Swedish developer who'd made

3096
02:23:08.440 --> 02:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>her Laser Eyes and Cyanara Wildheart's the former of the

3097
02:23:10.959 --> 02:23:14.879
<v Speaker 1>latter of which I don't love made device nine or

3098
02:23:14.959 --> 02:23:21.360
<v Speaker 1>device six, Device six back in twenty thirteen. Mobile puzzle game.

3099
02:23:22.280 --> 02:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're looking for a good puzzle game, and I

3100
02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>know it's twelve years old at this point, if you

3101
02:23:27.120 --> 02:23:29.200
<v Speaker 1>could still find it on I don't know why it

3102
02:23:29.200 --> 02:23:31.840
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't still be in the Apple Store, probably only a

3103
02:23:31.920 --> 02:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>few dollars. Three hour puzzle game. Incredible aesthetic kind of

3104
02:23:36.000 --> 02:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>like weird art deco, mid century modern, but eerie incredible puzzles.

3105
02:23:42.079 --> 02:23:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember weirdly. I talked to Jeff Cork who also

3106
02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:47.120
<v Speaker 1>loved it back in the day because I had just

3107
02:23:47.159 --> 02:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>finished my Internship when it came out, and I had

3108
02:23:49.559 --> 02:23:51.360
<v Speaker 1>messaged him saying it seems like something he would like,

3109
02:23:51.399 --> 02:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and he said he would already played it. But that game,

3110
02:23:54.079 --> 02:23:56.840
<v Speaker 1>similarly is playing with being a phone mobile game, which

3111
02:23:56.920 --> 02:24:00.719
<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool back in twenty thirteen on my I

3112
02:24:00.879 --> 02:24:03.280
<v Speaker 1>might have even played that on my eye touch at

3113
02:24:03.319 --> 02:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the time. I can't remember what phone I would have

3114
02:24:06.000 --> 02:24:11.360
<v Speaker 1>had in twenty thirteen, but anyway, I like that stuff

3115
02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, all right, thanks, that's a good question.

3116
02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:18.920
<v Speaker 2>It's great to just ask that because I usually do

3117
02:24:19.120 --> 02:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>find my favorite things by saying, like, this is something

3118
02:24:23.280 --> 02:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that maybe you don't recognize is so valuable because it's

3119
02:24:27.079 --> 02:24:30.879
<v Speaker 2>niche in this very nuanced way. I think it's cool

3120
02:24:30.920 --> 02:24:33.399
<v Speaker 2>to have that conversation where you're just like, this isn't

3121
02:24:33.440 --> 02:24:37.239
<v Speaker 2>for everyone. Like the games we've all recommended aren't universally beloved.

3122
02:24:37.280 --> 02:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>They're just like really good for a very specific reason,

3123
02:24:39.760 --> 02:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>which is just they're kind of fucked up and play

3124
02:24:41.559 --> 02:24:42.280
<v Speaker 2>with you a little bit.

3125
02:24:45.239 --> 02:24:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, all right, thank you.

3126
02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Will again. That's Firescape cast at gmail dot com sending

3127
02:24:48.799 --> 02:24:53.239
<v Speaker 1>more questions. Load that bank up. That's our episode, a

3128
02:24:53.280 --> 02:24:56.680
<v Speaker 1>good one. If you're not a patron, you can go

3129
02:24:57.440 --> 02:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>treating like a tip jar. If you appreciate what we do,

3130
02:24:59.159 --> 02:25:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you can get ad free episod. You can get video

3131
02:25:01.840 --> 02:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>versions of the episodes. You can see Dan's weird doc

3132
02:25:04.280 --> 02:25:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Holiday Phone Flipping. You can also get access to the

3133
02:25:08.639 --> 02:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>good campaign the Vinnie from Nextlander and I are doing

3134
02:25:12.600 --> 02:25:15.360
<v Speaker 1>on Total World Warhammer three. If you're not subscribed to

3135
02:25:15.559 --> 02:25:17.879
<v Speaker 1>their top tier, go do that if you want to

3136
02:25:17.879 --> 02:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>see the campaign we're doing there. I just realized, I

3137
02:25:23.000 --> 02:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>when's this episode going up Monday? Okay, I didn't spoil anything.

3138
02:25:25.920 --> 02:25:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I just realized I might have spoiled something from the show.

3139
02:25:27.719 --> 02:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>But the evil campaign starts on Monday on Next Lander.

3140
02:25:30.760 --> 02:25:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I should clarify good.

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02:25:32.239 --> 02:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought of another. I thought of another one

3142
02:25:35.520 --> 02:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>that uses the medium really well. Yes, undertail. Oh yeah,

3143
02:25:41.079 --> 02:25:44.959
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy, guys, Like it's just like you'll like play

3144
02:25:45.040 --> 02:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the game and by the end of it it'll be like,

3145
02:25:46.600 --> 02:25:48.239
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean you murdered people?

3146
02:25:48.440 --> 02:25:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so near automata. That's a good trigger.

3147
02:25:55.840 --> 02:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Back in ninety eight, was doing was like the first

3148
02:26:00.120 --> 02:26:02.840
<v Speaker 2>it was like laid the groundwork for this question.

3149
02:26:03.280 --> 02:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>You're my way off with ninety.

3150
02:26:04.840 --> 02:26:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's one thing that I thought was sending cowardly

3151
02:26:08.440 --> 02:26:12.559
<v Speaker 4>about fucking Sindy was the whatever the head? Well yeah,

3152
02:26:12.639 --> 02:26:14.600
<v Speaker 4>they said that, like, oh yeah, if you do this

3153
02:26:14.799 --> 02:26:16.319
<v Speaker 4>or if it gets too bad, it's going to delete

3154
02:26:16.360 --> 02:26:20.479
<v Speaker 4>your save. Oh oh, I fucking love that's some Kajimas ship.

3155
02:26:20.600 --> 02:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

3156
02:26:21.280 --> 02:26:22.840
<v Speaker 3>And it turns out it was just a bluff, and

3157
02:26:22.920 --> 02:26:24.719
<v Speaker 3>it's like, no, fucking commit to it. If you're going

3158
02:26:24.799 --> 02:26:25.159
<v Speaker 3>to say it.

3159
02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:27.959
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna say that delete my safe because I suck.

3160
02:26:28.200 --> 02:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, I want that.

3161
02:26:29.719 --> 02:26:31.799
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. There was a point where I

3162
02:26:32.040 --> 02:26:34.280
<v Speaker 2>was losing and like I just wasn't doing good enough,

3163
02:26:34.280 --> 02:26:35.879
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I don't want my save to

3164
02:26:35.959 --> 02:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>be deleted.

3165
02:26:37.079 --> 02:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>But man, it real? Yeah it made in playing Devil's Advocate?

3166
02:26:41.520 --> 02:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Didn't it make it more tense every time you died

3167
02:26:43.440 --> 02:26:44.959
<v Speaker 1>because you thought it was real? Kill?

3168
02:26:45.959 --> 02:26:46.559
<v Speaker 3>It was real?

3169
02:26:46.680 --> 02:26:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't agree.

3170
02:26:47.959 --> 02:26:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I agree, But like Kajemo wanted to be a fucking

3171
02:26:52.000 --> 02:26:54.680
<v Speaker 4>game back in the PlayStation era when if you died,

3172
02:26:55.280 --> 02:26:56.600
<v Speaker 4>your fucking disc.

3173
02:26:56.600 --> 02:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Burnt up just drive. Yes, I know, I so wish

3174
02:27:00.920 --> 02:27:04.239
<v Speaker 1>that happened. He made the game he made Tie where

3175
02:27:04.280 --> 02:27:06.319
<v Speaker 1>you has a solar panel and you have to take

3176
02:27:06.319 --> 02:27:06.559
<v Speaker 1>it out.

3177
02:27:06.680 --> 02:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Then it's like a banksy it like it like erases

3178
02:27:11.159 --> 02:27:14.639
<v Speaker 2>itself and like ships its pants if you don't win.

3179
02:27:14.799 --> 02:27:16.799
<v Speaker 1>But but like I want to draw the comparison between

3180
02:27:16.920 --> 02:27:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Kojima and uh ninja theory? Am I getting? Is a

3181
02:27:20.799 --> 02:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>ninja theory?

3182
02:27:21.360 --> 02:27:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Gama has balls? Ninja theory doesn't hold on?

3183
02:27:24.040 --> 02:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Hold on? Is it ninja theory? I want to make

3184
02:27:25.920 --> 02:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>sure I'm naming them correctly before I say this, yeah

3185
02:27:28.840 --> 02:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>theory blade, I mean I get that gick. So, so

3186
02:27:34.879 --> 02:27:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Kojima never lied about anything, especially like big gameplay demos

3187
02:27:38.200 --> 02:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>before a game came out. Is that what you're saying,

3188
02:27:39.920 --> 02:27:40.479
<v Speaker 1>he should.

3189
02:27:40.280 --> 02:27:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Have stopped lying about the fucking.

3190
02:27:44.639 --> 02:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Going to be and that was incredible? Okay, So he lies,

3191
02:27:47.680 --> 02:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>obsting the He lied in order to get to an

3192
02:27:51.920 --> 02:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>intended emotional effect with the game. They lied because they

3193
02:27:55.479 --> 02:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to feel like you might lose your progress at

3194
02:27:58.520 --> 02:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>one point. It's just there's similar.

3195
02:28:00.319 --> 02:28:04.360
<v Speaker 4>But when you found out so smarts' if you when

3196
02:28:04.440 --> 02:28:06.840
<v Speaker 4>you find out the reasoning for why Kajima did that,

3197
02:28:06.959 --> 02:28:09.600
<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, I get that. When it's you find

3198
02:28:09.639 --> 02:28:11.959
<v Speaker 4>out what happened with the hell Blade, it's like, oh,

3199
02:28:11.959 --> 02:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>they're cowards.

3200
02:28:12.879 --> 02:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>No, they were creating. They were making it more tense

3201
02:28:15.920 --> 02:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>every time they've done did you find out balls? Hell Blade?

3202
02:28:19.440 --> 02:28:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Cowards?

3203
02:28:20.440 --> 02:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Kajima was trying to get to the player, to a

3204
02:28:24.120 --> 02:28:24.719
<v Speaker 1>specific place.

3205
02:28:24.799 --> 02:28:28.639
<v Speaker 4>The great game to have big balls, just swinging, hairy

3206
02:28:28.760 --> 02:28:30.280
<v Speaker 4>balls coming off the disc.

3207
02:28:30.559 --> 02:28:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like truck nuts coming off my metal.

3208
02:28:33.719 --> 02:28:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Your disk. It just won't even go into your console

3209
02:28:39.079 --> 02:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>because the truck nuts. They can't shut the lid.

3210
02:28:42.440 --> 02:28:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Did your game cartridge hap nut?

3211
02:28:45.959 --> 02:28:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's discussing. You got one of these pussy as games?

3212
02:28:48.959 --> 02:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>No nuts? Not that? What is this game? Eldon Ring

3213
02:28:52.319 --> 02:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>has no nuts? The game's probably for posting.

3214
02:28:54.079 --> 02:28:56.479
<v Speaker 3>The Elder Ring's got nuts. Brother, No, there's no truck

3215
02:28:56.559 --> 02:28:56.959
<v Speaker 3>nuts on it.

3216
02:28:57.079 --> 02:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>It's for pussies. No truck nuts on that game, got

3217
02:29:02.120 --> 02:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>truck nuts? These these from soft ware guys must be

3218
02:29:06.079 --> 02:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>huge pussy's for not putting truck nuts on their discs.

3219
02:29:12.760 --> 02:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>It's such a stupid vision, much more than pretty small

3220
02:29:19.159 --> 02:29:22.399
<v Speaker 1>truck nuts. It's trying to go to the console, but

3221
02:29:22.479 --> 02:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it won't, so it just keeps trying to.

3222
02:29:24.200 --> 02:29:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Go in console because they put nuts on this.

3223
02:29:27.200 --> 02:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>The next p S five version is going to have

3224
02:29:29.159 --> 02:29:30.719
<v Speaker 1>a slot for the nuts to go through.

3225
02:29:31.159 --> 02:29:33.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jim would do it. Yeah, yeah, he would do yeah.

3226
02:29:34.760 --> 02:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Nuts, yes, center the nuts fallen.

3227
02:29:38.239 --> 02:29:40.719
<v Speaker 4>The PS six will have a little like trough for

3228
02:29:40.799 --> 02:29:42.360
<v Speaker 4>the nuts so it doesn't break the laser.

3229
02:29:42.840 --> 02:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeh, fins so it goes upwards.

3230
02:29:46.040 --> 02:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, the centrifical forest the nuts.

3231
02:29:48.200 --> 02:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Because of the centrifugal force. Thank you, Dan.

3232
02:29:50.600 --> 02:29:52.399
<v Speaker 1>The game's gonna be it's good. The game is gonna

3233
02:29:52.399 --> 02:29:55.559
<v Speaker 1>be called like nut Trey, and it's gonna have characters

3234
02:29:55.680 --> 02:30:00.040
<v Speaker 1>like Dickman and Penis Woman and Vagina bay Tray and

3235
02:30:00.079 --> 02:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>he's like. The intention was we wanted to create a

3236
02:30:04.040 --> 02:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>metaphor for players who might buy a console with a

3237
02:30:08.520 --> 02:30:13.879
<v Speaker 1>truck nut slot scrotum. Dick Man is a stand in

3238
02:30:14.159 --> 02:30:17.399
<v Speaker 1>for energy drink drinkers, so we needed to include Monster.

3239
02:30:18.319 --> 02:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>We don't deserve him, No, we don't.

3240
02:30:20.559 --> 02:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>But I love that we're like de evolving games because

3241
02:30:24.159 --> 02:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>we have to have little connected nut sacks on them.

3242
02:30:27.520 --> 02:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I like it.

3243
02:30:28.159 --> 02:30:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the next physical media is dead, but

3244
02:30:30.440 --> 02:30:31.879
<v Speaker 3>I think this is it's gonna come back.

3245
02:30:31.959 --> 02:30:34.239
<v Speaker 1>That's stranding. Best game of twenty twenty two was all

3246
02:30:34.280 --> 02:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>about deconstructing Fetch quests. It's true, that's Stranding Director's cut,

3247
02:30:38.840 --> 02:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>best game of twenty two.

3248
02:30:40.360 --> 02:30:41.000
<v Speaker 3>That's what we said.

3249
02:30:41.040 --> 02:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Damn it all right, escapecast Gmail dot com, go to

3250
02:30:44.200 --> 02:30:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Patreon dot com, slash fire escape to become a patron,

3251
02:30:47.760 --> 02:30:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Go to next Lander. I don't know their exactly r

3252
02:30:50.120 --> 02:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll just go to Patreon and find next Lander. You'll

3253
02:30:53.200 --> 02:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>find them.

3254
02:30:53.799 --> 02:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Good Pussy dot com, Damn funny URLs.

3255
02:30:58.760 --> 02:31:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Vinny brad Alex. What do you got? Go

3256
02:31:01.239 --> 02:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to Deep Dishpussy dot Coffee, want to become a Patreon member.

3257
02:31:05.559 --> 02:31:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Feel like we had one other thing. I don't think so, Dan,

3258
02:31:08.799 --> 02:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you have going on in the meantime?

3259
02:31:10.639 --> 02:31:13.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh, we're doing fun stuff over at the Giant Bomb.

3260
02:31:13.200 --> 02:31:16.239
<v Speaker 4>We're launching new kind of like always on during the

3261
02:31:16.319 --> 02:31:19.760
<v Speaker 4>day programming schedule stuff, and I got my own show

3262
02:31:19.879 --> 02:31:22.639
<v Speaker 4>on there. Greb's got his own show. We got a well,

3263
02:31:24.159 --> 02:31:25.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to name specific shows that have been

3264
02:31:25.840 --> 02:31:27.879
<v Speaker 4>announced yet or anything, but we got fun stuff going on.

3265
02:31:28.360 --> 02:31:31.440
<v Speaker 4>So basically, tune into Giant Bomb or game spots, YouTube

3266
02:31:31.520 --> 02:31:33.680
<v Speaker 4>or Twitch throughout the day if your at work opens

3267
02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:35.559
<v Speaker 4>up in a tab. We got the stuff going on.

3268
02:31:35.760 --> 02:31:37.520
<v Speaker 4>It's been very fun cool.

3269
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Mary what about you.

3270
02:31:39.600 --> 02:31:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Usual Twitch for live streaming game experiences, because I'm downloading

3271
02:31:46.159 --> 02:31:47.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of my old VODs. They're all going on

3272
02:31:47.879 --> 02:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>my YouTube channel just so that you can watch old

3273
02:31:50.760 --> 02:31:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Twitch pods from twenty eighteen, which is such a mind

3274
02:31:54.799 --> 02:31:56.760
<v Speaker 2>fuck for me that I've been streaming for that long.

3275
02:31:57.520 --> 02:31:57.840
<v Speaker 2>That's it?

3276
02:31:58.319 --> 02:32:04.239
<v Speaker 1>What about you? Just here forward facing, busy with day

3277
02:32:04.360 --> 02:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>job consulting stuff. Wine certification tests coming up on May first? Yeah?

3278
02:32:12.200 --> 02:32:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Mike, if I wanted to as a bit, could

3279
02:32:15.200 --> 02:32:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I sign up?

3280
02:32:16.239 --> 02:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>And like?

3281
02:32:16.600 --> 02:32:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Could I laugh?

3282
02:32:17.440 --> 02:32:17.479
<v Speaker 1>You?

3283
02:32:17.959 --> 02:32:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Could? I? Yeah? Could I get past you?

3284
02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Like?

3285
02:32:20.719 --> 02:32:24.040
<v Speaker 3>If I put my entire free time towards this, I

3286
02:32:24.159 --> 02:32:24.719
<v Speaker 3>think there's.

3287
02:32:24.639 --> 02:32:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Like an intensive, week long version of what I don't

3288
02:32:27.360 --> 02:32:31.399
<v Speaker 1>know mine sixteen weeks two and a half hours class

3289
02:32:31.520 --> 02:32:34.520
<v Speaker 1>time a week, but like sixty hours of self study.

3290
02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:36.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't think about it.

3291
02:32:36.399 --> 02:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>You would have to you'd have to gain No, I

3292
02:32:40.600 --> 02:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>mean feasibly maybe, but you would have you're skipping the

3293
02:32:44.200 --> 02:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>level three.

3294
02:32:45.559 --> 02:32:47.120
<v Speaker 3>I just think it'd be funny to like, all of

3295
02:32:47.159 --> 02:32:48.399
<v Speaker 3>a sudden no more than you about it.

3296
02:32:48.559 --> 02:32:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I just think it would be hilarious as well. But

3297
02:32:51.239 --> 02:32:53.079
<v Speaker 1>just talking realistically, I don't think so.

3298
02:32:53.440 --> 02:32:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well then maybe I won't do it. Yeah, it

3299
02:32:57.079 --> 02:32:58.159
<v Speaker 3>talked me off the ledge.

3300
02:32:58.520 --> 02:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Like what what what reagion in Spain has the most

3301
02:33:01.559 --> 02:33:03.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Pagos.

3302
02:33:04.600 --> 02:33:09.399
<v Speaker 3>Madrid? No, you just Spain place. That's the only Spain

3303
02:33:09.440 --> 02:33:09.879
<v Speaker 3>place I know.

3304
02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>It's named Spain, the only Spain I know. So I

3305
02:33:14.479 --> 02:33:17.159
<v Speaker 1>got no you know other you know, at least one

3306
02:33:17.200 --> 02:33:18.239
<v Speaker 1>other big city in Spain.

3307
02:33:18.280 --> 02:33:22.719
<v Speaker 3>Hang on hand, don't wait, Madrid, Spain.

3308
02:33:22.959 --> 02:33:27.639
<v Speaker 1>Mary was here? Barcelona, right, run of the Bulls. Yeah,

3309
02:33:28.079 --> 02:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's Pamplona, Barcelona.

3310
02:33:29.639 --> 02:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I believe what it's called.

3311
02:33:31.840 --> 02:33:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Barcelona was the Olympics, right, it wasn't like ninety two.

3312
02:33:36.079 --> 02:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Or I'm sure at some point. I'm sure every city

3313
02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>was the Olympics at some point in my lifetime. I

3314
02:33:44.040 --> 02:33:49.959
<v Speaker 1>feel like Barcelona, Atlanta the Olympics. I think Barcelona was

3315
02:33:50.120 --> 02:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics when I was a year old.

3316
02:33:51.719 --> 02:33:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, that's the one I remember. Yeah, I didn't

3317
02:33:54.760 --> 02:33:56.200
<v Speaker 4>watch it, but I knew it was the only way

3318
02:33:56.239 --> 02:33:56.639
<v Speaker 4>I keep.

3319
02:33:56.639 --> 02:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>My countries in order. It's have they been an Olympic

3320
02:34:00.280 --> 02:34:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and what year?

3321
02:34:03.799 --> 02:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Well that's our episode. That's what I'm too. We'll be

3322
02:34:06.680 --> 02:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>back in the meantime. Like I said, if you're listening

3323
02:34:10.280 --> 02:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>to this episode as of Right now, you can go

3324
02:34:12.799 --> 02:34:16.200
<v Speaker 1>watch the first episode of the evil campaign of that's

3325
02:34:16.239 --> 02:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>called Mike and Vinnie Destroyed Vinnie and Mike Destroy the World.

3326
02:34:20.680 --> 02:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Next episode of Mike and Vinnie Save the World will

3327
02:34:24.000 --> 02:34:27.879
<v Speaker 1>be up on Monday this coming Monday on our Patreon,

3328
02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we're alternating. We got a bunch of banks, so we're

3329
02:34:30.879 --> 02:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>not gonna miss any We'll see you in a couple

3330
02:34:33.520 --> 02:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>of weeks, Dan, Mary, see you two. Yeah. Uh. Until then, everybody,

3331
02:34:41.639 --> 02:34:43.920
<v Speaker 1>have a good couple of weeks. Bye.