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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Tensions that were Running High, a

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Penrith Panthers podcast presented by the Western Weekender Thanks to

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome to Tensions Running High, a Penrith

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Panthers podcast presented by the Western Weekender. This is episode seventy.

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I'm Troy Dodds, joined by Nathan Taylor. Hello Nathan, Hello Troy.

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On the agenda. Today, we're joined by Moses lee Ota.

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We talked to Moses about Nathan Cleary as he hits

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his two hundred game milestone and talk of some big

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names leaving the Panthers. We aim for six in a

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row against the Bulldogs and play another round of theme

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Song Survivor as well. So plenty happening. But Nathan, first

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of all, just quickly. We'll reflect more on it later,

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but big win when the Panthers last week, I think

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that blew everyone away.

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Speaker 3: Oh it was a spect spectacular game. I was speaking

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to the players just earlier today and they couldn't even

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believe that they put fifty on Melbourne. Now, I mean,

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the first team in since two thousand and three to

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do it. It's quite quite unbelievable. It was the best

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feeling I've had at that stadium since we've been there. Troy,

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I would say a lot of Panthers fans would agree.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I would think. So we'll talk more about it shortly,

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but I wanted to start off the show today with

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this story that I ran in the Sun Herald on Sunday.

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Danny Widler had the story suggesting that Liam Martin and

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Mitch Kenny are in the sights of the P and

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G Chiefs, who of course entered the NRL in twenty

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twenty eight. Now they are off contract twenty at the

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end of the twenty twenty seven seasons, means on November one,

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they can negotiate with other clubs. Now, this story is

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going to fester along as is a million stories about

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Penrith players of contract, because the Panthers have quite a

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few players of contract in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they certainly do, Troy. The list is extensive, to

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say the least. I mean, if they all didn't re sign,

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then you're getting a basically new team. Obviously that's not

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going to happen, but there is quite a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna run through it for us. But just

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on that Martin and Kenny story a little bit bizarre

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because obviously neither of them can talk to P and

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rules around that owns the P and G Chiefs, which

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is the NRL, So that's a little bit odd. And

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there's no suggestion that has been contact, although Danny had

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a line at it suggesting that Leam Martin has expressed

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desire to play for the P and G Chiefs, which

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is the first we've heard of that. I wouldn't be

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surprised if some managers were in Danny's over the week end.

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So I don't know why this story suddenly emerged when

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we're months away from them being able to talk, but

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I guess we're not going to be able to escape.

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Speaker 3: It, no for sure, And a story like this does

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rush Penrith into maybe getting a deal done if they're

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hearing that PNG or whoever trying to go after their players,

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and that also could put the pressure on Penrith to

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maybe get a deal done. A's a lot of talk

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about Nathan Cleary re signing, a bit about ISAO, but

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as I mentioned, soon there's a host of players off

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contract who're probably going, what about us? What about us?

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that might get there, might get think of the ball rolling.

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Speaker 2: I guess just maybe a strategy at play.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would think. I can't imagine. Look, I've

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never been to PNG. We don't know what it's going

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to be like over there. But for Leam Martin, I mean,

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he's just freshly got a new baby, he's married, and

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what they're just all gonna they're gonna go over there

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no family support. His mum, who he loves, deal is

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back here in New South Wales, and he's partner's family

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and all that, and they're just going to leave for

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a few years for a cash grab. Possible possibly happened,

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but I'm sure he'd love to stay at Penrith. That's

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Speaker 2: Now you're going to go through the list. What we

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don't know as you go through this list, right, we

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all talk about, you know, we almost automatically think that

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Penrith want to resign all these players. That's not necessarily

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the case, you know, and even in Leam Martin and

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Mitch Kenny's case, they will be past their thirtieth birthday

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by the time that their contracts expire, so you know,

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that they want to resign Nathan Cleary, he is you know,

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target number one, But there's going to be players on

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this list that Penrith don't actually want to resign. That

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they are either hey, we think that they're going to

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age out, we think that the value for money is

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not there, or we know we're not going to be

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able to compete in the salary and they might not

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even lodge a competitive offer there.

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Speaker 3: And they haven't done that before, being the Army Kickoute.

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They didn't even bother offerings. They're like, hey, we're probably

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not going to be able to afford you anyway. Yep,

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you know, off you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's no, there's no not necessarily all one side.

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at Penrith. Penwrith want to resign him. That's the end

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of story. That's not always the case. So let's go

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through it. Who is off contract? So firstly, at the

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end of this year and of this year, there are

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players that are off contract. Literally at the end of

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this season, he could negotiate with other clubs.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's run through those guys first because the list

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isn't as long. But first off, it's Tom Rlay. We

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haven't seen him play yet, so he's obviously a fifty

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to fifty proposition whether they want to keep him for

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another year. Jack Cole, now he was our half prospects

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last year. He played a fair few first grade games

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before Blaze got there, and we thought, oh, those still

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are going to battle it out. But it's quite clear

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that Blast lung. He's got the got the gig now

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for as long as he wants it. So Jack Cole

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is on the outer. Your next player is Coloney going again.

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Liam Henry you know, is ready leaving. The other big one,

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which he has gotten some press today, actually is Thomas Jenkins.

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twenty thousand dollars at the moment, Troy, and his dollar

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is going up and up with every game. He's a

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leading try scorer in the NROL. He's scored more tries

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than anyone in the history of the game after five rounds,

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and they're saying he could get upwards of four hundred

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thousand dollars, especially if he gets an Origin appearance. What

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you know, and this is this does happen, right, So

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Thomas Jenkins are scoring a lot of tries and it's

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a great story. So he gets so much attention, you know, like,

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but obviously you know, Thomas Jenkins is at the end

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of most of the work in terms of those tries,

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and that's no offense to Thomas Jenkins. I certainly couldn't

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score them, and there'd be plenty of wingers that couldn't.

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But he is a winger, and he is benefiting from

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having incredible centers and second rowers next to him and

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one of the best halfbacks that we've ever seen in

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the Sight. So I don't know if we sit there

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and say, oh, he is this you know, winger of

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you know, elite level money, I would think four hundred

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is a little bit either. But I mean he's going

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to get a significant pay increase, there is no doubt

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about that. I think he'll want to repay the faith

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that Penish showed in him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, Panthers have been trying to sign him, I

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believe for the last six months. They wanted to tie

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him down a long time ago, but his managers like, no, no, no,

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let's hold off, hold off, and it's proved to be

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a good strategy. But you know, I think he's been

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better than Brian too this year, to be honest. I

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mean that individual effort that he did to score that

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try for the fifty yeah out of the dropout like

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that was pretty pretty damn good. So look, four hundred

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might be out of the question, but maybe three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Look, it might be a three hundred thousand dollars deal.

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Alex Johnston at South right, I can get everyone that

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knows who he is because he scores so many tries. Yeah,

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you know, he's one leading try score He's obviously now

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the greatest tryscorer in NRL history. But if South were

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looking at okay, let's name the top eight players who

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are going to win AU premiership. I don't know if

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Alex Johnson's in that list, you know what I mean.

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the expectations of fans. Oh yeah, there would be other

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clubs who would get caught up in the hype and

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absolutely pay four hundred thousand dollars. So Pendreth have've just

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got to find the right amount there. But yes, I'd

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want a deal done asap because if he does play Origin,

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that's only going to increase about it, That's right.

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Speaker 3: The other player off contract end of this year choice

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Fred Lasik. Now we've got to see a lot of him.

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quite good. I know the players. The individual try Ivan

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loves him, so I think he might stick around for

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a little bit longer. Is that utility player. Of course,

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Scott Sorenson we know is leaving already. And that's pretty

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much it for this year's departures or potential departures.

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Speaker 2: All right. Now, that takes us to twenty twenty seven.

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And the challenge that I imagined that Matt Cameron faces

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here as he works with the Retention and Recruitment Committee

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is that we don't know what Nathan Cleary is doing.

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And so if Nathan Cleary is taking up one point

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two one point three million dollars of your salary cap,

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that is going to have an impact on other players

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absolutely are resigning. Now, if Nathan declares he's not going anywhere, sorry,

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he is going somewhere, he's not going to resign. So

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they're going to go to market. They might find a

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half back for seven or eight hundred thousand dollars. That

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opens up suddenly five hundred thousand dollars to potentially re

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sign someone who we wouldn't be able to. That's all right,

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So a lot hinges on Nathan but let's go through

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the list and figure out what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, Okay, So leaving or potentially leaving in twenty

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twenty seven is Paul Alamodi. I mean, he's a been

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fantastic for Penrith since he's come to the club and

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I think they would want to keep him. I think

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they could probably get him on a pretty good deal

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as well. Of course, lot's been spoken about Nathan Cleary.

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at the end of twenty twenty seven is of course,

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we just spoke about him earlier, Mitch Kenny. I think

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he's a future captain at the Panthers. He's getting older,

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but they love him there. He's the leadership. We spoke.

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the extra time our our Western weekend of Rugby League

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lift out. He wants him to play Origin this year.

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That's how much he's He's so loved at that club

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and doesn't get the praise. Moses the Oder we spoke

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to him today. Now he's another one who declared a

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few weeks ago to the weekend that he'd love to

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be a panther for life, and I think he's probably

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probably not commanding massive dollars. I think he just love

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the stability to probably see out his career at Penrith.

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Leah Martin of course, we just spoke about him earlier.

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Isaiah Papali. Now he's another one who's who's probably going

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to command a bit of money now he's been around

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the club's a fair bit in his time to pins

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his third or fourth club. So whether he would want

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injured at the moment moment, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw him obviously he played a fair bit

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a footy last year, but we haven't seen an injury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a majuring cup I believe, But he's

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just one of those players I think a lot of potential,

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a lot of potential. He's been pretty good at the

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times we've seen him, but just can't seem to crack

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that that team. Whereas another player Billy Phillips, who he's

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off contract in the next year. We've seen a fair

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bit of yep. Looking at further ahead, Blaze Ta Langey,

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three year contract, especially, I'd love that Nathan Cleary and

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Blaze contracts to sort of see out together. Brian too,

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is the other one. Now, he's the other winger that

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obviously Penri fans would be devastated to lose. Is the

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probably the argue with the most popular player at the club.

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Everyone loves him across the NROL. You don't want to

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say goodbye to Bizzer, would you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I want to. I'm saying that as

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we go through this list so far, Yeah, I have

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a little ast tix next to Brian to oh that

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that maybe he could.

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Speaker 3: Passed him.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think you remember that this is the thing

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with a lot of these players, right so you know

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Mitch Kenny and Martow included and Leoda like these these players,

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they haven't had a lot of injuries, so therefore they

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haven't had a lot of time out of the game,

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you know, like big season end injuries or things like

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that they've played a lot of rep football. They go

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bloody hard for Penrith. You know, Brian to Oh almost

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changed the game as a as a as a winger.

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I mean we were already seeing wingers do you know,

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forward carries and whatnot, but but that was Penrith's trademark through,

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you know, particularly the early Premiership years. Like I just

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worry about signing these guys well into their thirties and

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I think that Penrith might look at a Brian to

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and go, well, geez, for probably half the money, we

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could get an adequate winger there. We're going to have

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wingers coming through the system. So I don't know, I

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don't know. I think Brian to I'll put him as

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a as a potential out so far.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, fair enough. Look, I'd love to keep him.

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I think he's he does keep himself very fit. While

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he's diets obviously not great, it seems to work for

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him and you know, he's just part of that that

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core group that you know personally, i'd love to see

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him stick around. And the other one is Isaiah oh Troy.

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Of course he's off contract and the next year by

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the time he reaches that Mark, he would have played

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about three hundred games. Doesn't get into exactly, and I

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know that's something he very very much wants to achieve.

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What happens after that, I'm not sure. He has expressed

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desire to play in England maybe for a year or two,

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So I guess it all just depends what happens with

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the other guys. I mean, Nathan Clear is your priority, right,

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and then you sort of work your way down too.

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Who would your next priority? That's your list, you guys

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like Dylan Edwards, Lindsay Smith, Isaac Tago is there for

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a bloody long time. He's there to the end of

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twenty twenty nine. So there's a lot of players there

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that are that locked in case of McLean's there for

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a few more years as well. The same with Luke

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Garner just re signed.

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Speaker 2: So we know that Nathan Cleary is your priority, Nathan

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Clear is your priority, and then who's your key now?

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I'd say if he's there wants to go around again,

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then Penrith will meet.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you would think. He's the Australian and well.

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Speaker 2: Look, Isaiao, he is not about to go off and

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play for another an Arol club. He's got a very

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young family, very connected to the community and whatnot. I

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can't see him go on to P and G or anything,

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So I would I would say that, you know, yo

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re signs and he might only resign a one or

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two maybe a two year deal. Yep. You know again,

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he's a player who's probably playing some of his best

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football this year, I will say, but who I think

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we might start to slow down after a couple of years.

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I think we'll put some priority around Billy Phillips, and

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I think we'll be able to get him pretty cheap

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if we can do a deal soon. And I think

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that that would be the kind of deal you could

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do now without knowing the Nathan Cleary.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, that's.

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Speaker 2: Not a not a huge one. Look where I would

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throw some doubts in. To be honest, I think I

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think a player like Isaiah Papale maybe only re signs

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if we get that clearing money freed up. You know,

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the Cleary doesn't resign because, as you said, he's a

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bit of a journeyman. He's quite happy to go to

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other clubs if other clubs are probably paying more. Even

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though he's certainly been a great contributor at Penrith, So

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I wouldn't be surprised to see him go Blaze. Tulange

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will be a priority, I think, because you know, they'll

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either want to keep that hardspairing me together or if

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Nathan does go, they'll want some stability there from Tulangey.

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So as we go through this list, I've got Brian

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to Ogone.

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Speaker 3: Just off to another nro cap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon he'll finish at another nur roll club.

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That wouldn't surprise me at all, maybe hooking up with

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his old friend Jerome Leui Paramatta.

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Speaker 3: He plays part Family Men plays at Paramatter.

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Speaker 2: So and I really would have some doubts over Marto.

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I just think that as much as Leam Martin sort

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of lives and Breeze Penrith, I could see him somewhere else.

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I could see him at a Canterbury. I can see him.

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I can see it.

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Speaker 3: Raiders, well yeah I could.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe because the Raiders I didn't put them in

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my top eight. I was mocked here on this podcast,

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and well, a team that's looking for a bit of mongrel,

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you know, like and go, yeah, we need that, we

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need that. And I just think that, you know, he

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that'll be Marto's potential final contract, if not his final contract,

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you know, maybe second last contract. He's going to be

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looking for big money. And I just think that maybe

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Penrith will look at that and say, jeez, we could

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we could do with that cash elsewhere. I'd like to

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see us keep Moses the oder. But you know what,

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similar to me thinking that James Fisher Harris was a

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good let go his age, You've got to sort of

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look at it and say, well, what Moses going to

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offer us in those however many years he re signs.

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So I don't know if I've given a very good

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answer there, apart from the fact that I think Brian too,

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I doubt he will be there beyond twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a tricky one because a lot of those players,

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like they've been so healthy, haven't they. We haven't really

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lost any of them for too many long term injuries,

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and like they're really injury prior and even though they're

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getting older and they've played so much football, they've been

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there every week this year, haven't they, apart from a

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couple who have been you know, had some issues. But look,

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it's a tough one. Now he's a theory for you,

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and you might, you know, set the cat amongst the

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pigeons here, Troy. If Nathan Cleary does the side he's

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going to leave, you'd expect him to announce will at

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least tell Panthers that this year at some point, right,

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you don't get to know of it next year. And

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then he decides because he's got so many other guys

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off contract, and he's a smart guy, and Nathan Ivan's

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the coach, so he's going to be like to come on, buddy, like,

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we're going to have to make a call here. You know,

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for the protection of the rest of the team. What

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would you be happy with for Penrith to to bring

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up some young kid to be the next half back,

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for Jack Coggar to be half back, or to go

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to market yep, and potentially priy Jerome Leui out of

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that Tiger's deal. Now Jerome Luai is off he's not

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off contract for till twenty twenty nine, but the last

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three years of his deal is player options, okay, which

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means he hasn't waived that yet. We know that that's

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still in his contract, which means that he can opt

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to go anytime he likes and go all right and

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Pendrack go okay, be our savior replace Nathan. You will

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give you this number seven, jumpy you've always wanted. How

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would you feel about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is that, I mean, I think the

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Tigers have already figured out Jerome Leui is not a

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half back. He's a live wif five eighth and before

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he got injured they were playing him in that role.

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So I doubt Penrith will go down that path. I

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think that, and I don't know when he is off

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contract this player, But Jesus wouldn't be surprised if Penrith

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had to look at a former junior because they love

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this in Isaiah Katoa, who's of course at Redcliffe at

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the moment. You know he left because he was behind

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Nathan Cleary. He has done very well at the Dolphins.

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Obviously the Dolphins have got probably not the squad that

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tom that is going to be threatening for a premiership.

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But look, do they do they look at him? They

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could bad both of them, or do they have the

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number seven coming through the system.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they do. I mean, ke On

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Skipps got he's got the potential, but I feel like

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just to ease, tease the fans. The fans are going

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to be so upset if they think Cleary decided to go,

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they'll be Okay, we know you're upset, but look, we've

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got your Katoa back or we've got your we've got

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your Jerome Lui. You know that would just ease your

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I don't know the stress of it all and go, okay,

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well that's that's cool.

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Speaker 2: If I think, you know, depending on you know, we

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don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but one hundred

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percent right, they will want to, you know, if they

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can play this. The last thing they're going to want

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is this to get out in the media. And Nathan

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Cleary is going somewhere, and that's how it's done, I think,

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to protect his his legacy and reputation. At If you

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want a press conference where Nathan can just be open

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and honest about whatever decision he's made, and then you

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want literally the next day Pedroth to announce assigning, you know,

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and have it all planned in that regard absolutely, you

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know it's we got an email from Bill podcast at

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Western Weekend that or comrade, you now, Bill had a

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theory He says, none of this matters Nathan because Nathan

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Cleary has already knows what he's doing. Penrith knows what

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Nathan Cleary is doing, and the NRL knows what Nathan

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Cleary is doing. This is Bill's theory. So Bill's theory

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is that like all of these ducks and drakes and

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we're not sure is all about because that Nathan is

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going to go to P and G in twenty twenty eight,

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the NRL knows it, the NRL is pushed for it

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and is behind it, and that it's all in place,

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and that it'll just get announced in due course. That

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this is wow, the big announcement. Now that's Bill. Bill

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has any connections. I doubt he does. This is just

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a theory.

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Speaker 3: He's just he just tossed this up Bill Bill's theories.

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Speaker 2: He's analyzed everything he said, and this is his theory

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that he's come up with that everyone everyone who needs

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to know already.

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Speaker 3: Knows okay, and that just hasn't somehow has not gone

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out got out there in the in the world except

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for Bill knows about it. No one. I just look

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obviously that he would be going for the money, Troy.

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That's pretty much it. Yeah, as I think my uncle

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Peter Lang said in his column last week, going to

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PG doesn't bring any closer to Mary Fowler, who's living

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in England most of the year. So you're going for

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the money and I guess that opportunity to start a

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new franchise. If he thinks he's going to win a

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comp over there, he's probably not going to win a comedy.

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Speaker 2: But I been there, done that, right, But.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that what he's like? It's not what you do

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as a player for the money or do you go

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for the titles.

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Speaker 2: I actually can understand, you know, no matter what happens here,

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I can understand both answers. And if he stays, he

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probably he breaks every NRL record in terms of points

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and whatever else he plays. He becomes a one man

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player at Penrith. He's penriths greatest ever player and will

470
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,160
be Penrith's greatest ever player for you know, decades and

471
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,359
decades to come, no matter who comes through. And yeah,

472
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,039
and he has a post rugby league career in media,

473
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,200
he has all of that. He has a million deals

474
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,200
that he could do right now. It's very marketable him

475
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,640
and Mary obviously.

476
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 3: You know that she just a big out of that steal,

477
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,680
didn't she last week? The Posh and Becks and a

478
00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:27,559
million for five years or something like that.

479
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: So hopefully with less drama Australian sport, they've got their potential.

480
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,119
There is unlimited and uncapped. I also understand the other

481
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,680
side of it, where he says, well, yes, I have

482
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,519
ticked all of these boxes already at Penrith A great

483
00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:43,599
a great time, particularly if they go on and win

484
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,799
the com this year. I've won five premierships. Like I'm good,

485
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,200
I'm glad. I'm happy to put the line under that

486
00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:54,599
chapter and move on and do something else, whether that's

487
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,079
give back to the game through P and G, whether

488
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,440
that's go overseas and play in England, play rugby and

489
00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:01,640
be closer to any of that.

490
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 3: You know.

491
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: I can understand both sides, but I hope Penrith fans

492
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:04,440
do too.

493
00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: I hope that they think they think they will. I

494
00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:09,079
think they will. I think there will be more. I

495
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,039
think the P and G one will sting for Penrith

496
00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:13,680
fans because that he's going to another NURL club. I

497
00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:17,440
think that's the thing that we probably can't grasp. I

498
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,000
don't care if you want to be a star in

499
00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,079
p ANDNG and make two million dollars. That's I don't

500
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,680
bother me. If you want to go, if you if

501
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,000
you have to go to be closer to your partner,

502
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,160
then we could probably understand that. But it's a funny

503
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,680
thing that the Sam Kerr News we saw last week

504
00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:33,799
she's she's off to the US for her next day.

505
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,799
Ye yep, it's just I mean it's a bit You

506
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:39,559
don't think Cleary got up and move his whole life

507
00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:41,960
to England and then Mary Fowler gets a deal to

508
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,359
go to the US. That's triple what she's getting at

509
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,920
Manchester City because Mary contract as well, so the Americans

510
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,319
can can pay. They've got money, yep. And look then

511
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,000
what is he going to do?

512
00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: Look, there's so many unanswered questions in this space because

513
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,319
for all we know, you know, like we're talking about

514
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:01,559
Nathan being back to the game, or maybe Mary will

515
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:03,119
come here and play for the Wanderers.

516
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,279
Speaker 3: They they could deal with her because they finished last

517
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,279
this year in the in the w League.

518
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: But okay, like are we serious about women's football in Australia?

519
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,400
You know, like we talk about the Matilda's but the

520
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,319
you know, the the A League Women's competition is is

521
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:24,000
a long way away from anywhere near the overseas competitions.

522
00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:27,519
But just like you know back in the day, Ala Sandro, Pierra,

523
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,079
Piero and all of that sort of stuff really gave

524
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,359
the A League the lift, Shinzo all that sort of stuff.

525
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,240
Well maybe maybe someone with deep pockets says all right,

526
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:37,759
let's let's make it happen.

527
00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:39,319
Speaker 3: Here, or she could play. It could be like an

528
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,799
Asian club that you know, you know that there's other

529
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,279
plot places closer to Australia than just you know, over

530
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,079
in England or P ANDG. So I don't know, Troy,

531
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,279
it's it's gonna We're gonna find out in the next

532
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,319
six months.

533
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,519
Speaker 2: Well no, we will. And look all of these players.

534
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:54,920
This is like you know, when you've got to remember

535
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,119
with two new franchises coming into you know that any

536
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,400
of those players that you listed there, either Perth or

537
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,960
P and G would love to have. So then it

538
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,880
just comes down to well, okay, you know which players

539
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,720
are happy to go for money, which players of Penrith

540
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,519
happy to see go? You know, And if you look

541
00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:16,680
at Penris next era from twenty twenty eight onwards, then

542
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:18,680
and you look for success, you look for winning a

543
00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:21,319
comp Well, obviously you want Cleary there, you want ego

544
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,039
there for your leadership, but you know, does a Brian

545
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720
to you know if and this is Matt Cameron has

546
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,240
said this before, this becomes about numbers on a piece

547
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,400
of paper. It doesn't become Unfortunately, the emotion can't come

548
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,119
into it. That's that's why Mat Cameron's there to not

549
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,559
bring the emotion into it. Does Mack Cameron look at

550
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:39,519
that and say, what does a Brian to Oh make

551
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:42,079
a difference to us winning a competition? Does a thirty

552
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,160
something year old Brian to make a difference to us

553
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,240
winning the twenty twenty nine Grand Final? And probably not.

554
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,720
So that's where I think some of those players are

555
00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:50,960
going to fall away and you've got to take the

556
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,319
emotion away from it. And Mack Cameron, you know, he'll

557
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,319
deal with whatever fan fall out there is. I mean,

558
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,839
we had fan fall out when the Army left, we

559
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,039
had fan fall out when Stephen Crichton left, right, and

560
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:01,240
you know we've had it all.

561
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: You know, But I think this one, I think the

562
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:06,680
Nathan Cleary one, I think that's the one that would

563
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,680
hurt the most. And don't forget his dad isn't even

564
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,160
resigned either, correct.

565
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much to play us a fascinating This

566
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:17,119
will become a very fascinating game of chess over the

567
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,480
next few months, particularly given this isn't a money thing.

568
00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,960
This isn't Penrith and Nathan Cleary going back and forth.

569
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,039
I think Nathan Cleary could write the number down on

570
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:26,680
a piece of paper and handed to make Cameron and

571
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,920
he'll say, Okay, yeah, you know, so that's not what

572
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,000
this is about. So look, that's going to be really interesting.

573
00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:35,400
We'll see what happens. But yes, twenty six, twenty seven,

574
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,160
there's a number of players off contract and some big

575
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,519
changes to come. All right, now, back to last Friday night,

576
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,240
Panthers storm just quickly Panthers fifty Melbourne ten. Look what

577
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,200
was your main takeaway from that game?

578
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:50,759
Speaker 1: Oh?

579
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 3: I was shocked. I was so surprised that they did

580
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,640
what they did. It was just incredible. We know the

581
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,839
battles with Melbourne over the years. I mean last year

582
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:01,839
they lost all their games to Melon It's just been

583
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,960
such a it's been such a I don't know, a

584
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,000
huge tussle between the two tiers. They're the best sides.

585
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,559
They've the last five years both of those teams. But

586
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,359
to see what Penrith did to them, and I was

587
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,920
saying to the players today, I know they had a

588
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,720
couple of injuries, but their key players were there in Munster,

589
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:22,440
Harry Grant, Jerome Hughes, their fullback of course for long.

590
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,200
It was just incredible. So like that, it's not like

591
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:29,240
they were weakened too much for Penrith. Book fifty on

592
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,240
them just unbelievable.

593
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: And you know Melbourne completed at ninety four percent.

594
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,799
Speaker 3: I know they had two errors the whole game.

595
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: Right, ye, incredible, absolutely incredible, phenomenal. Can I also just

596
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,720
say one thing and I hope this will draw a

597
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:47,599
line under this. Forever go trial form means nothing. And

598
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,559
we finally now any Penrith fan who was getting upset

599
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,480
because the Tigers beat us in the preseason Challenge and

600
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:56,279
who else beat us?

601
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: Some other more cowboys put sixty on us?

602
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: Yes cowboys, please guys, now, forever it's done. Trial form

603
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,759
means Ziltchit means nothing. It does not mean you're going

604
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,759
to have a good season a bad season. It's finished.

605
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,160
You know, Newcastle horrible in the in the preseason Challenge

606
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,799
and they are the third on the ladder, like please

607
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,519
hopefully it's done all over finish. Never want to hear

608
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,279
about it again that the preseason challenge or trial form

609
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,119
means anything. What about this? There's this thing on NRL

610
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,160
dot com, the Rugby League World Cup Team of the Week.

611
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,279
They put this out every week. Well, this week, every

612
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,160
member of Penriss starting lineup has been nominated for the

613
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,200
Team of the Week. The thirteen Panthers have been nominated,

614
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:48,200
so fans can vote for the Rugby League World Cup

615
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:50,640
Team of the Week, with players eligible for World Cup

616
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:55,480
nations nominated after each round of NRL and Super League matches.

617
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:59,240
So there you go. But that just shows the dominance

618
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,000
of that Penrith team. And yeah, the first time in

619
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:03,839
twenty three years Melbourne has had fifty put on them,

620
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,400
even having clearly admitted post game that he was quite

621
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,119
shocked by the score line, and just some just brilliant moments,

622
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:16,079
unbelievable through the contest, some great tries. We were talking

623
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,079
before the game a fewer friends and I going, oh,

624
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,519
we think that Penrith will try and go right a

625
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:23,559
bit more because you know, you've got sort of the

626
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,279
war brick on the other side, so you kind of

627
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,440
want to try and avoid him, and we saw that

628
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,400
with obviously Marto scoring the first try and Brian getting

629
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,799
a try as well. But then that left just lights up,

630
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480
you know in terms of you know, Casey MacLean and

631
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,119
Tom Jenkins of course. So it's it's pretty spectacular what

632
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,279
this Penrith team are doing. And people are starting to say, well,

633
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:44,839
you know we go through undefeated.

634
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean it would be nice, wouldn't it.

635
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,279
That's something they haven't done yet the Panthers. This is

636
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,000
undefeated season. Look, I don't think it's going to happen

637
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:58,079
because of just you know, origin and injuries, and eventually,

638
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,200
you know, you know they're going to it's gonna They're

639
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200
not going to have a massive losing streak or anything.

640
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,160
You wouldn't think, but you know, teams obviously can get

641
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,160
the better of you at any point you know where

642
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,559
you're sitting.

643
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,279
Speaker 2: I think Penis actually only has to rest their players

644
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,119
or stand down mandatory and stand down their players once.

645
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,079
Once you've got buyers before the other origins. I think

646
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,680
they've got a buy coming out of an origin as well,

647
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,599
so all three of their buyers are in that origin.

648
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:29,400
So let me ask you this let's say you you win,

649
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,839
you know, you're winning games or whatever else like you

650
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:35,960
if you do somehow get through Origin and I think

651
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,480
that game where they have to stand there players might

652
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,039
be against the Titans, with all due respect to them,

653
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,359
that could be a win regardless. Let's say you're around

654
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:46,960
around twenty three to twenty four, so clearly if you're undefeated,

655
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720
you've won the minor premiership. Do you still rest players

656
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,079
like well we did for Canterbury or do your chase

657
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,920
being undefeated if that was actually the possibility.

658
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I don't know what Ivan would do. Actually,

659
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,400
it's quite an interesting one because because he's Street is

660
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,039
on the line, but he also he also knows that

661
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,880
it doesn't mean anything at end of the day because

662
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,319
their main purpose is to win the title. There's no

663
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,319
good or winning, you know, going undefeated season, you get

664
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:12,400
to the Semis and you lose both weeks.

665
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: I agree with you, you know what I mean.

666
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,759
Speaker 3: So I don't know what he would do. I mean,

667
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,200
I guess you'd have to ask him. If you got

668
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,240
to that stage a round twenty three twenty four and

669
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:24,640
they were undefeated, there would be a lot of talk

670
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,680
about what they would do. They might rest half the

671
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,680
team and then play the other half, or just do

672
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,640
something like that rather than rest, than do a mass

673
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,599
resting every week.

674
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, no team in the NRL, e Or of course,

675
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720
has gone through undefeated Sin George did it in nineteen

676
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,279
fifty nine and the rabbit Os did it in nineteen

677
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,240
twenty five. Now nine to twenty five. It was a

678
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:47,119
twelve round season that done twelve.

679
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: Game winning streaks already in their time.

680
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: I think East's had and I've been running the thirties there,

681
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640
so so it's been done I think by three teams. Yeah,

682
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,680
but certainly not since the Dragons of nineteen fifty nine.

683
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:00,720
Certainly not in the NRL or when we've had twenty

684
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:01,440
plus rounds.

685
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think it's just premature. Would be

686
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,160
cool at a moment where you could run and stall

687
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,720
in the field, Troy, like we spoke about it a

688
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,000
few weeks ago, but would you consider the regular season, undefeater,

689
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,519
I have to go the tirew I think you.

690
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:14,559
Speaker 2: Won't have to go the regular season. I think that's

691
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,480
you know, like that's your see, that's what we consider

692
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:20,680
for dally Ian's competition points all of that. So yeah,

693
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,640
look a tremendous. We probably one of Penis's greatest famous wins.

694
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: And there's been a mean.

695
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,599
Speaker 2: Win to do that to Melbourne, no doubt about that.

696
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,440
In front of a great crowd.

697
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,279
Speaker 3: It was good to have that crowd out twenty thousand.

698
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. But look, our focus turns to this Thursday night,

699
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:40,119
the Bulldogs against the Panthers at a Core Stadium. And look,

700
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,240
this is interesting because the Bulldogs obviously now without Stephen Crichton,

701
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,559
who suffered that shoulder injury against the Rabbit O's, were

702
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,759
was already so many questions about the Bulldogs and things

703
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,440
being uncertain. I'm stunned by it personally that a field

704
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,359
gold run team has got doubts over certain players.

705
00:32:58,039 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: And things like that.

706
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,799
Speaker 2: So much controversy and not like we've heard this before,

707
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,480
and you know, not like Gus is out there talking

708
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,839
and over over talking the coach, you know, like I

709
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,960
might have seen a story today. But anyway, here we are,

710
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,319
the ninth place Dog is the first place Panthers Penrith

711
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,720
short priced favorites, and of course a milestone match with

712
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:22,039
Nathan Cleary playing his choundredth game, they can't lose Penrith. Surely,

713
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,160
you wouldn't.

714
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: You wouldn't think so. But you know, it could be

715
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,319
one of those trap games, Troy, where the Bulldogs just

716
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720
somehow cause an upset. But no, you wouldn't think so.

717
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,000
I think, like you said, I think in your in

718
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,880
your preview this week, Troy, that Penrith had so many

719
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,079
memories on that of course stadium ground and the last

720
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:40,920
time they played there, of course was the last September

721
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,400
against the Bulldogs and they absolutely put the cleaners through them.

722
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,880
I remember that game well as it was Penis's last win,

723
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,720
I guess coming into the into the finals. So look

724
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,359
on paper and what Penrith have done this year, yes

725
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,119
they should be winning quite comfortably. But you just never know,

726
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,960
do you. He just never knows. Crazy things have happened.

727
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's not gonna happen. Peneth will win this

728
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:06,119
and when it comfortably, I think there's just no The

729
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,760
Bulldogs are out of sorts and not scoring enough points.

730
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,400
Penrith are in ridiculous form. They might not win by

731
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,239
forty or fifty, but I think that they will get

732
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,880
it comfortably done, particularly in a milestone game, particularly when

733
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,239
you've got no injury worries and all of that sort

734
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719
of stuff. So it's Penrith by twenty or thirty somewhere.

735
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,119
Speaker 4: Wow.

736
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,519
Speaker 3: Okay.

737
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,159
Speaker 2: For me, I just think it's the Dogs just I'm

738
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,639
just not liking them at all at the moment. I

739
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,760
think we're more likely to somehow lose to the Dolphins

740
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,880
in Darwin the week after.

741
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

742
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: You know the Dolphins when they do actually turn it on.

743
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: They can score some point. Yeah, can't score points, no.

744
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: So I just don't exactly that. I don't see where

745
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:43,800
the points come from.

746
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the Dogs, and the crimeon being missing is huge,

747
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,559
I think massive. We know how big he is for them,

748
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,400
leadership and whatever. So yeah, I'm with you, Troe. Maybe

749
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,320
twenty points. I'll go twenty point victory.

750
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too easy. It's too easy.

751
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 6: I know.

752
00:34:57,559 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: I mate, Peter Lang will be nervous.

753
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: I was sitting with him on Friday. It was bloody nervous.

754
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,199
We were up thirty to whatever it was at halftime.

755
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:08,480
This is when we have to sit here and enjoy it.

756
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,000
You don't get times like this where you can just

757
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,280
sit back against Melbourne and not be stressed.

758
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's the the fiftieth meeting since nineteen ninety eight

759
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:21,960
of these two teams they've played since the NFL was

760
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,280
formed in ninety out. They played forty nine times. Penrith

761
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,880
won twenty nine of them. The Bulldogs have won nineteen now.

762
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,280
Last year, as you mentioned, Penrith won that finals match

763
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840
at a course stadium forty six to twenty six. And

764
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000
the other game last year of interest, of course, was

765
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:39,719
the Dogs beating them twenty eight to four on that

766
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,639
night that Penrith mass rested.

767
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,039
Speaker 3: All of the whole time.

768
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: Look the Dogs, they've been disappointing. They went down to

769
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,639
the Knights a couple of weeks ago and then of

770
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,960
course to the Rabbits last week. That thirty two to

771
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,039
twenty four score line probably flatters the dog as they

772
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,639
were terrible in the second half and when you look

773
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:02,079
at their there were two yeah, so far this season

774
00:36:02,119 --> 00:36:04,679
they've had a buy thrown in. They beat the Dragons

775
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,159
by a single point in Vegas. The Dragons are terrible,

776
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,280
you know, they're woeful and they beat Camera fourteen ten

777
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,519
on that night that it was pouring raining, so they're

778
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:19,159
not in good for the Bulldogs they've had They've actually

779
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:21,159
had a pretty bad start to the season that's probably

780
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,079
been overshadowed by the fact they got two wins early.

781
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 3: But you wonder what happens, you know, if they keep

782
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,880
going down this trajectory. Is Cameron Serroudo in trouble? Is

783
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,400
Gus in trouble? Like we've seen this. We've seen this

784
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,159
play out before troyhing start going bad.

785
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,159
Speaker 2: But I doubt either of them are in trouble. But yes,

786
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,920
it's the same, it's the same cycle. We've seen the

787
00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:44,559
exact same cycle that we experienced before with Anthony Griffin

788
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,280
and Gusts before. There's just something about Gusses. He has

789
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,920
this ability to drag a team from the bottom eight

790
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,239
into the top eight. But then it's it's like chaos

791
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,400
help himself with tinkering and chaos and all of that

792
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,559
sort of stuff. And we saw it last year with

793
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,639
the Toby Sexton staff and this year now we're seeing

794
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,519
it again with you know, from Matt Burton, Brons and

795
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,159
Cherry to all of them. Yeah, you know, being mentioned

796
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,039
in you know, it just creates uncertainty.

797
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:11,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does all right.

798
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: But it's on Channel nine. It is also on Fox

799
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:17,079
Sports and ko A seven fifty pm kickoff there on

800
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:19,119
Thursday night. I'm going to head out to the game

801
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,880
looking forward you're going, yes, corporate, Yes, yeah, yeah, So

802
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,119
all my critics out there who say I go to corporate, Yes,

803
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:28,920
I am going to corporate this week an invite to

804
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,639
go along. So I'm going to go check that out

805
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,880
on Thursday night, have some saucy drolls and whatnot at halftime.

806
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,199
Speaker 3: It should be a beauty you're going to go you know, No, no,

807
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:40,239
I won't be going.

808
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,079
Speaker 2: Okay, no, I'm like to, but this week not this week?

809
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: All right.

810
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,119
Speaker 2: Now, it is Nathan Clear his twohundredth game on Thursday night.

811
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,480
Now that's a great milestone, of course. And you had

812
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:54,079
a chat with none other than Moses Lioda because these

813
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,440
guys both de Beautifurse in the same seasons, week after

814
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,480
each other. Yeah, back in twenty sixteen, you asked Mona

815
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,559
about that when he caught up with him this week.

816
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:06,559
Speaker 3: You and him have a pretty interesting connection because he

817
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,079
debuted the week before you debuted back in twenty sixteen.

818
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,199
Do you remember Do you remember that all happening back then?

819
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,199
Speaker 6: Not really, but yeah I know that I don't after him,

820
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,239
so yeah, yeah, it's good to sort of have a

821
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:22,079
game week out a party.

822
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

823
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,559
Speaker 6: He's been part of my journeys. He certainly has.

824
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:27,519
Speaker 3: Obviously you've got a few more games, like maybe six

825
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,039
or seven more games on night. I think you're at

826
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:31,880
two o six or two o seven or something like that,

827
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:34,760
and you'll run. But what do you remember from from

828
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,440
nighth back then, because obviously debuted as an eighteen year old.

829
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,719
You were you were fairly young yourself, but you would

830
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,119
have heard about him growing up, being in a ivan,

831
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:45,920
wasn't coaching at the club at the time, being the

832
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,559
coach's son and all that sort of thing. What did

833
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:48,559
you sort of know about.

834
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,119
Speaker 6: Eight I sort of knew that he was a teller. Yeah,

835
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,679
he played like two, so he's two years younger than me. Yeah,

836
00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:01,159
he played in my age group, and yeah, that says

837
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,519
a lot about his telling. Yeah, I went on to

838
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:08,199
play school boys and stuff, and yeah he debuted I

839
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,000
think he was eighteen.

840
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:10,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen.

841
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he debuted at eighteen, And there's this case

842
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,679
I was telling he had and the club knew what

843
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,599
he was destined for.

844
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, and as he obviously he has changed a lot.

845
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,599
But what have you noticed some of the changes in

846
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:23,519
Night over the years.

847
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 6: I think just his habits, training habits on and off

848
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,719
the field. He's a a great leader as well, and

849
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,480
he gives us confidence when when he's playing.

850
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:41,079
Speaker 3: Do you think the club would be the same without him?

851
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:42,639
It doesn't sound like. It sounds like the club is

852
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,079
in the positions in the last you know, five or

853
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,119
six years because of Nathan. Obviously you and the others,

854
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:49,639
but certainly he's him being up the top right so.

855
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 6: That he's everything comes off him and when we're doing

856
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,239
our job sort of gives him the freedom to do

857
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,480
his and he was makes the right pass or the

858
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:02,039
right kicks.

859
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your favorite memory of his, you know, maybe

860
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,679
a favorite moment you've watched him out in the field

861
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,519
doing something epic that we all have seen on TV.

862
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.

863
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,159
Speaker 3: And obviously he's toughness too. You're known for your toughness

864
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:23,440
of course, but you know, as for a half back,

865
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,480
he gets stuck in there, doesn't he with the with

866
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:27,400
the rough and tumble and the tackling and that sort

867
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,840
of thing. Is that Did you get a lot of

868
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,719
respect for him stuff like that?

869
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 6: Yeah? I actually do, like a lot of halfs like

870
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,960
they try a lot of teams try to get I

871
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:42,960
feel like I feel like teams try to get at him,

872
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,280
but yeah, I reckon he's more defensive half. Yeah, he's

873
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,480
a better defensive half in the game. It's sort of

874
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:56,400
hard to get out for having shoulders for sure.

875
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, thoughts on the season so far. I think we

876
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:01,280
spoke a few weeks ago when you guys were off

877
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,079
to a very good start, But now you think like

878
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,119
you've gone to another level five and zero. You must

879
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:07,880
be loving your time out there, like like all the

880
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,800
boys are at the moment.

881
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're enjoying each other's company, and obviously we're playing well,

882
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,880
and yeah, winning's fun, but they just gotta keep that

883
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,400
on restart every week, and yeah it's always a two opponents,

884
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,280
so it's got to stay stay on top of our

885
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,960
game and keep it all we do this.

886
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,199
Speaker 3: Can you believe you guys put fifty on Melbourne? Like,

887
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,800
as a fan, I couldn't believe that. I'm sure a

888
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,000
lot of fans couldn't believe. First time they've had a

889
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:35,719
fifty four on them since two thousand and three. Like

890
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,239
you guys, you know you've had so many battles with them,

891
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,960
But does that even did that even shock you that

892
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,400
you're able to do that? No, that was a pull

893
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,360
street Melbourne team too.

894
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 2: Almost. Yeah.

895
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,559
Speaker 6: I was to one of the boys and I was like, bro,

896
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,559
I don't like we're when we do rus Morvine, it's

897
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:54,239
a they've won the last two or three I think

898
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,880
it was. And yeah, Foricycle fifty on them was that

899
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,599
it was a shock again.

900
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely there he is Moses Leota, one of my favorite players.

901
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: As you he loves the weekend and two he's done

902
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,199
a lot of work with the Weekend in the last

903
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,599
few weeks. He's remembered our photographer. He's like, oh you

904
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:12,000
were again.

905
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 2: Funny story there. We might tell it at a later time.

906
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,000
But yet Nathan Cleary and what a story it's been,

907
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,000
you know, makes his debut against Melbourne and what turns

908
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:26,280
out to be Jamie Soward's last games, thrown into the

909
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,079
walls by Anthony Griffin in twenty sixteen, and has never

910
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,760
looked back. Has been Penri's first choice half back ever since,

911
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:36,760
you know, and even through those Griffin years, you know,

912
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,480
never thoughted him being dropped.

913
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:40,039
Speaker 5: None of that.

914
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Has just been top class since that day.

915
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I read something on the Panther's website earlier

916
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,719
that in his second season he was the NRL's leading

917
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,599
point scorer in his second season, he would have been nineteen.

918
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:55,039
Speaker 2: Yeah wild and of course four Premierships later five Grand Finals,

919
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960
an Origin record that is much better than people would

920
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,480
like you to think. In fact, he has an Origin

921
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,880
winning records somewhere around forty seven percent. Andrew Johns, who

922
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,159
everyone seems to put up on a pedestal in the

923
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:10,320
Origin arena, has a win percentage of about fifty five percent.

924
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,840
So the differences and Cleary is not finished. The difference

925
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,840
is not all that huge, so a weird thing that

926
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,320
this follows him around. Maybe this this year will be

927
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,679
the year. Hopefully the whole pen might be there. But yeah,

928
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,000
get out there and support Nathan Cleary on his two

929
00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:32,480
hundredth milestone game. Hopefully they've spell checked the the jersey.

930
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:36,800
They'll give him the special jersey after the Yeah, but

931
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:40,280
I'm sure they will do that. Now. Listen, fuel prices

932
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,840
just creep climbing, and for many drivers it is starting

933
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,000
to hit hard at the pump. So the question is

934
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,400
is now the time a seriously consider making the switch

935
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,519
to hybrid or even fully electric. With hybrid vehicles, you're

936
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:54,199
combining petrol efficiency with electric assistance, meaning fewer trips to

937
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,760
the servo and the lower running costs, especially in stop

938
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,519
start traffic, And if you're ready to go fully electric,

939
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on last Friday night, it was a surprise when when

951
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:43,360
none other than Josh Mansell turned up as ground announcer.

952
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:47,480
I know, and I'll tell you what I reckon. He

953
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:48,280
was a smash hit.

954
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: Oh he was. Like I said, it was the best experience.

955
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,159
It had a comback, and I think he was he

956
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,519
was a big part of it. He was unbelievable. When

957
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:58,840
did you first notice that it was source as the

958
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,280
ground announcer because I I've heard because I came for

959
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,960
New South Wales Cup like halfway through.

960
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: I came through halfway through and I heard this voice.

961
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, who is that? Had no idea? And then

962
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,760
I saw Panthers put something on their socials. I'm like,

963
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,440
Josh Mansell and then I just put two and two together.

964
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:14,719
And then then we finally saw him on the screen

965
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,159
after the game and you know, before the main game,

966
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,400
and I couldn't believe it.

967
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,519
Speaker 2: It was just look, he wasn't polished, certainly not he

968
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,679
you know, he made a couple of little errors and

969
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,880
a couple of bits and pieces. But you know the

970
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000
best part was, you know he was forty four to

971
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,760
ten and he put out the declaration, come on, let's

972
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,960
get fifty's. I just don't think Glen Hawk does that.

973
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely, That's what Scott McCrae would do.

974
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm hoping that Panthers. I know that this

975
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:42,239
was a feeling. I think he's back for a game.

976
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:44,639
Speaker 3: Suit, so you've got mail on that. So I thought

977
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,400
he would be he'd be installed the whole year, saying he.

978
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: Was filling in for Glenn Hawk, who probably had your

979
00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,679
kidding other jobs, but I do believe he's back. Couldn't

980
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:54,880
even be for the next time game against Manly, so

981
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,239
he is back for at least one other game, and

982
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,360
I hope that Penrith as we prepared to go back

983
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,960
to Panthers Stadium next year, take the feedback on because

984
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,559
I think it's been overwhelmingly overwhelmingly and actually go well, actually,

985
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:09,559
maybe Sources the man because.

986
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,119
Speaker 3: Of all people who would have thought that that's who?

987
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:15,320
He was so good like Troy, the intros, like the

988
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,239
intros were amazing the way he just and I think

989
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,159
I think the players would have enjoyed it too, because

990
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,760
Buddy Saucy doing the you know that they would know,

991
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,599
and he was just so passionate. He knows the guys,

992
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,679
he played with the majority of the team, and you

993
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,880
could just feel it out there. I hadn't felt like

994
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,760
that for a long time.

995
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,559
Speaker 2: This is what we spoke about a few weeks, why

996
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:36,320
are we desperate for this sterile.

997
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: And we still had Lindall was still doing some of

998
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:44,320
the other series bits and pieces. But yeah, Source just

999
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,960
I thought he was the perfect choice. Whoever said let's

1000
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,880
call him up and do it, genius like you should

1001
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,239
be the club person of the Year at the end

1002
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,599
of the year.

1003
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:52,159
Speaker 6: For that.

1004
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,159
Speaker 3: Look, the one thing I must have been he didn't

1005
00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:57,000
he would didn't quite get right. Well obviously that the

1006
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:59,440
sponsors and stuff like that. So when obviously a player

1007
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:03,000
comes off, he's interchangeable to say, you know, and Billy

1008
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,239
Phillips is on for Western Weekend. He didn't quite get

1009
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,960
those right or sometimes you missed them completely. That's understandable.

1010
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,400
I'm sure you know, I'm sure that'll be fine. But

1011
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,039
in terms of just hyping the crowd up, it was.

1012
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:16,840
It was so good.

1013
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:18,519
Speaker 2: You did a great job. And I hope that we

1014
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:22,599
see more source at at Panther's message from the next year,

1015
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,360
gets sourced to do it, getting he's available at the

1016
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,039
new Penis Stadium. Let's have source there. Let's not have

1017
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:30,519
With all due respect to Glen Hawky was a great

1018
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,199
MC and very professional at what he does. Let's have

1019
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,679
someone who's actually passionate about the pants he's.

1020
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: Hawkey like, which think he's on contract that he has

1021
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,719
to do the rest of the year or could they

1022
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:41,480
flick him?

1023
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,199
Speaker 2: You want him? You want him? Yeah? Season season?

1024
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,199
Speaker 3: Yes. Unfortunately, it's like it's like if you're not available

1025
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,079
that week like a first grader and someone fills in

1026
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:52,760
your spot and has a better game than you, and

1027
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,280
then you have to earn your spot back.

1028
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,119
Speaker 2: So in your mind it's Seabold gone, Shane Flanning and

1029
00:47:57,199 --> 00:47:58,920
maybe gone, and Glen Hawk potentially.

1030
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry Glenn, Sorry.

1031
00:48:01,039 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: Mate, I'll see what happens there now, talking of he

1032
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,119
was great at the Footing. But there are annoying people.

1033
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,519
We've all experienced it. I think you sit near someone

1034
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:16,559
and they're annoying, yes, you know, And thankfully I've been

1035
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,679
pretty lucky generally with the people that I've been around

1036
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,400
in the Western stand at the old Penrith Park or

1037
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,079
of course now it's Combank. But you've got a bit

1038
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:28,119
of a story about some annoying people at the Foota.

1039
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, Troy, Look, I've also been very lucky to I

1040
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,840
used to sit in the West not far from you,

1041
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
and those people around me for those ten years were

1042
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,079
like family, fantastic, you know, you love seeing them, and

1043
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:42,960
even even at Combank now I've I'm having no issues

1044
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,400
at the moment. I'm in a in a really good seat,

1045
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,079
really good part of the stadium, and no issues. However,

1046
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,519
I'm sure my colleague Emily won't mind me saying this.

1047
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,800
She recently moved from sitting up near you in the

1048
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:58,360
in the nosebleeds in the at Combank, and she moved

1049
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,400
down to be a bit more closer to the actions.

1050
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,800
So she's now in my bay.

1051
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: Trons closer to yell at Tommy Drinkin's.

1052
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,639
Speaker 3: That's right. And Mitch Kenny, she's now in She's now

1053
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,000
in my bay, but she's in row four or five.

1054
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,679
Speaker 2: Or something like that, very closet.

1055
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 3: That's right. But she was telling me today when we

1056
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,960
got back to work that that she has a gentleman

1057
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:25,639
behind her that commentates the entire game, and she's losing

1058
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,159
the plot. She can't handle us.

1059
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: Are we're talking just he's making his own comments?

1060
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: Yes, she says. She said to me, if I wanted

1061
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,280
to listen to the commentary, I would have stayed at home,

1062
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,880
because yes, now he is commentators. He's passed the ball.

1063
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,760
Now he's off there, he's off the races.

1064
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,119
Speaker 4: Here we go.

1065
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Brian Toe is through. Yeah, that's what he was doing. Look,

1066
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,199
I'm not sure what his situation is, but apparently he

1067
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,199
was getting a few stairs on Friday, and he was

1068
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,760
there the previous week against Paramatta as well, So it's

1069
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,039
it's a permanent seat. And I said to Emily, no

1070
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:58,320
wonder those seats opened up in row four because whoever

1071
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,079
sat there last year probably decided to leave.

1072
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:03,159
Speaker 2: What's funny, you say, is to see and Beard, who

1073
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,159
was of course a fellow Pants member, he moved seats

1074
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,599
this year and he is landed next to someone who

1075
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,840
he doesn't he's heard about. Yes, so I think he's

1076
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,239
on the move. So this must happen quite a lot.

1077
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,559
I'm guessing it must do.

1078
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,199
Speaker 3: But like, what would take it for you to move

1079
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,039
like your seats, Troy? How annoying does someone have to

1080
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,360
be for you to pick up your You've got a

1081
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,159
big crew of ten.

1082
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys would probably all.

1083
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: Have to leave or you're trying to get that person

1084
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,960
gicked out.

1085
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: That's what I probably try, trobably try and get the

1086
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,480
other person kicked out. To be honest, Look, I don't know.

1087
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,079
Speaker 3: Would you handle someone commentating behind you the whole game?

1088
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: Probably not. I probably struggle with that. I probably struggled

1089
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,719
with that, you know, I think about it now and

1090
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,880
I think about those those nights at Peneras Stadium, particularly

1091
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,840
in the last five years. Probably we were the annoying

1092
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,079
people to some people in front of us. Probably, yeah,

1093
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,079
because we didn't mind an odd drink before the game,

1094
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:01,119
although we're generally pretty responsible drinkers of course, yes, not

1095
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,480
spilling drinks on anyone or anything like that. But yeah, look,

1096
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:10,320
i'd probably I'd probably try and get them move. You'd

1097
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:17,159
use your powers, corporate that is annoying commentator.

1098
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's not. She's not really sure what she's

1099
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:20,480
going to do now. I said, you've got to stick

1100
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:22,800
it out. I mean, it's only another seven games at Combank.

1101
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,000
They we're back at Penrith. Yeah, you know you can't

1102
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:25,519
move again.

1103
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, yeah there was Look I think about over

1104
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,960
the years, there was a lady. I used to call

1105
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,400
it paper Lady, and she used to turn up with

1106
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,800
literally like garbage bags full of shredded paper. So when

1107
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,239
Penrith won at the end of the game, she could

1108
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,280
throw it up everywhere. And she apart from being paper

1109
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,079
Lady and throwing it up, she was one who would

1110
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:50,039
like to know, absolutely give it to the ref.

1111
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: Right, just constantly give it to the ref both barrels.

1112
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I haven't had many annoying people.

1113
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,920
The one The thing that actually annoys me now more

1114
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,239
so is actually even when they're Penrith bands is ridiculously

1115
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,639
biased Penrith fans. That's a weird thing to be annoyed by.

1116
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,719
But you know, someone yelling out that they're offside or

1117
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840
that it was a dodgy call or that this was forward.

1118
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, bashing like a lot of a

1119
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:15,519
lot of refuge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went to the

1120
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:16,960
ref bashing either, Like.

1121
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, if it's an absolute, how give it

1122
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,599
to him? But you know, like and one of my

1123
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,000
favorites is probably when there's a say that you know,

1124
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:28,599
panathnes a seven tackle set, so you tap it on

1125
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:33,079
the twenty and a player like obviously the defensive line

1126
00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:35,599
might have started off side because they're coming back, but

1127
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,679
they might tackle Brian to you know, thirty five out,

1128
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,440
which means they've run the ten meters to be back

1129
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:44,400
on side. Now you know that they're on side, but

1130
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,199
everyone booze because what they started off side? And everyone

1131
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,440
booze and like, how's the house down? We need you know,

1132
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,440
a penalty and whatever, but what are you talking about.

1133
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,360
They've run the they've run the meetings, yeah, you know,

1134
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,920
and just I guess people don't follow the game that much,

1135
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,320
and they just clear like clearly, just pair of fans

1136
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:02,719
one eye.

1137
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah. I sit next to one of them. My uncle,

1138
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:07,559
he's like that.

1139
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 2: He's already Lynch actually Klimb. He's not happy that those

1140
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,639
ten points. We'll do our Panthers theme song Survivor in

1141
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:19,880
a minute. I've got to complain about the Panthers shop because.

1142
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,119
Speaker 3: The orders in what is going on with fans message

1143
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:23,920
in to us now?

1144
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,679
Speaker 2: And the order is actually in.

1145
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,119
Speaker 3: This is for the pink scarf I picked up in

1146
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:29,800
one of the games.

1147
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,519
Speaker 2: Finally won the pink scar in the the what do

1148
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:35,760
we do not dealing?

1149
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 3: Price is right, price is right, and you can see

1150
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,559
here in one of the great games.

1151
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:43,599
Speaker 2: I'm just proving it to you so you know that

1152
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:45,239
I'm not lying. There it is. There is the order,

1153
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,639
it's ordered confirmed, I said, pick up, and I'm yet

1154
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:52,360
to hear from them, so maybe I don't know if

1155
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,880
they didn't have them in stock, jeez, but this.

1156
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:03,519
Speaker 3: Can few sheep and start making some more some more

1157
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,679
woolen wool scars by winter time and like it's not

1158
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,800
too cold yet, otherwise I definitely would need it.

1159
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what's going on over there now.

1160
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,079
A couple of emails Warren wrote in Warren said, just

1161
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:16,199
been listening to the podcast or walking my dog? We

1162
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,239
want to know how you listen to the podcast. Is

1163
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,280
it in the car or is it, you know, walking

1164
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,480
your dog at the gym? At the gym maybe yeah,

1165
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:25,400
pump you up, and Warren says. You asked about whether

1166
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,280
people still listen to an RL games on the radio.

1167
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,599
He said, absolutely, I do. My station of choice is

1168
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:31,960
the ABC. I think Andrew Moore is one of the

1169
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,320
most genuinely exciting callers ever, yet that doesn't come with

1170
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,079
any loss of accuracy. With more you always know where

1171
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,039
the tackle can is up to and have a very

1172
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,079
good picture where the action is on the field and

1173
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:46,320
what's happening is co commentators are also outstanding, especially Luke Lewis,

1174
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,400
whose football brain is second to that surprising I use.

1175
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,639
I used to listen to Triple M sometimes when they

1176
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,400
had Dan ganay and who was brilliant on both radio

1177
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,679
and TV Ryan Girdler without them, though I'm not so

1178
00:54:59,119 --> 00:54:59,760
keen on Triple and.

1179
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,679
Speaker 3: No he was calling the game yesterday.

1180
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,639
Speaker 2: Actually sure, all right, well, he says it's almost all

1181
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:08,719
with games. He listens to the ABC A long history

1182
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,280
of great callers, David Morrow, Peter Wilkins of course. But

1183
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,000
but yeah, look we talked about that last week, so

1184
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:18,400
there you go. Warren still listens on on the radios.

1185
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,119
Speaker 3: That's good. And I was at the Easter Show on

1186
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,920
the weekend Troy and on Saturday, and I actually watched

1187
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,760
the Continuous Call Team in the flesh.

1188
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: And you said that you wouldn't mind it.

1189
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they talk nothing about footy. It was. It was

1190
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,639
about getting sushi at the Easter Show and some other

1191
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,679
fire safety tips. We have someone from the fire is on.

1192
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,760
This was the middle of a rugby league show. But

1193
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,559
it was entertaining. I think Gal was their MG, of course,

1194
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:45,519
Mark Levy and big Man yep. And yeah, it was

1195
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,320
enjoyable to watch live in the flesh.

1196
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 2: I will say. The weirdest thing about the Continuous Call

1197
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,679
Team for me at the Easter Show is that they

1198
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,599
call the game from there, the good Friday game from

1199
00:55:57,679 --> 00:55:58,280
the Easter Show.

1200
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't. They did the Saturday one too. Yeah,

1201
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,360
they said we're about to call the game the Dragons game.

1202
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: Yes. Now George is also written in Nathan George says

1203
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,400
the NFL really needs to address the issue of player

1204
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,039
injuries caused by foul play. Whenever any rugby league player

1205
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:19,239
suffers an injury and he's ruled out for the game

1206
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,920
for weeks or months or the whole season because of

1207
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,880
our play, the instigator must be suspended for at least

1208
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,719
the same length of time. Come on, George, shinbind and

1209
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,480
put on report at the time of the incident. The

1210
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,039
player in question should be sent off immediately, and then

1211
00:56:32,079 --> 00:56:34,679
the Match Review Committee and tribunal in conjunction with clubs

1212
00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:37,880
and doctors, determine the length of the suspension.

1213
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: George, George must be fun at parties. Troy, That's just ridiculous.

1214
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:46,119
I mean, did you think that Tuckle yesterday on Simonson

1215
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,320
was that bad? Like I feel like if he didn't

1216
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,119
hurt himself, it probably would have been playing.

1217
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I do agree with that, it would

1218
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,599
have been playing. We see that, Yeah, we see that

1219
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,039
a lot. That was probably unfair on the young guy.

1220
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,679
But look, yeah, I mean they are definitely going to

1221
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,840
take into account the injury when you see an injury

1222
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:05,280
that bad.

1223
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 3: But he only got one game in the ten minutes

1224
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:09,119
in his team won and he got spend in one

1225
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:10,119
game up.

1226
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:12,639
Speaker 2: Until like five or six years ago that that tackle

1227
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:14,480
wouldn't have even raised an eyebrow.

1228
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,519
Speaker 3: Because they were both going up up for the ball,

1229
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:18,760
and it's just, you know, he came down with the

1230
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:19,440
other guy, didn't.

1231
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,199
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of There's a lot about

1232
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:23,840
life in rugby league. I'm not here to give you

1233
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,559
an anthony seabol We're all going to die that he

1234
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:28,559
put out. But you know, like at the moment, I'm

1235
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,119
watching about the fuel crisis in New South WALESA and

1236
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,199
you know, pollagues are saying this, and we're all here

1237
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:35,159
in the city saying this, and then you'll hear a

1238
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:37,280
quick interview with someone from the country who actually kind

1239
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,039
of just tells it like it is, who's actually like, well,

1240
00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:43,599
can I just give you the nobs trusion in this situation?

1241
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,400
And you know, sometimes you just need that. And in

1242
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:48,800
rugby league, we're desperate to be like, you know, people

1243
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,119
make these rules and I just don't think they have

1244
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:54,320
an understanding of the actual moment in a game, Like

1245
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,159
I see those you know, the mid air tackles and

1246
00:57:56,199 --> 00:57:59,159
things like that. I'm like, the people who actually approved

1247
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:04,280
these rules ever been involved in those situations to understand

1248
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,599
that it's not as it's not as clinical and as

1249
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,159
simple as you think it is that in that moment

1250
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:11,239
that I'm going for the ball and now we've got

1251
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,239
the bunker, even like saying oh his eyes, his eyes,

1252
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,039
eyes are looking over here. I mean really like we

1253
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:21,320
now I've got psychologists in the bunk. Yeah, deciding whether

1254
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:23,360
you know someone was looking at him or not. Yeah,

1255
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,199
this is a bit you know, we're going a bit

1256
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:25,880
too technical.

1257
00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think the way the crowd

1258
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,559
reacted as well. Yesterday Peter Gough best, but I think

1259
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:34,840
lost control he did. Yeah, Image Moss was all over

1260
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,119
him as well, you know, got him to you know,

1261
00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:40,320
you know, do certain things. So it was Look, it

1262
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,920
wasn't a great game, but it was a great game

1263
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,719
to watch. It was probably I loved it.

1264
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: It was awesome and and you know one of those

1265
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,079
games where you're lucky depending on what commentator you get,

1266
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:54,840
and this was this was Andrew Bosses game like that,

1267
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,079
and he loved it.

1268
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: But do you issue out a game like that, like

1269
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,800
can we only just go to Penrith games?

1270
00:58:59,800 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: Try?

1271
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: But sometimes I will go, oh, maybe I'd like to

1272
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,480
go to an exact day game or Easter Monday game.

1273
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: Do you wish you would have been to the anzact

1274
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:07,800
day game? Part of that it is awesome, but yeah,

1275
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,280
I would have loved to have been there yesterday. That

1276
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,519
was that was awesome, and just because so many things

1277
00:59:11,559 --> 00:59:15,760
happened in that afternoon. You know, you had injuries everywhere,

1278
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,400
you had sin Binning, had the Tigers sort of at

1279
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,960
one point, I was like, the Tiger's gonna run away

1280
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,800
with this, and then full momentum shift with.

1281
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,119
Speaker 3: That kid that never played NROL before his first scoring,

1282
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:25,320
with his.

1283
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,719
Speaker 2: First touching that first try, which I think we all

1284
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:28,840
thought was there was no way.

1285
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: It looked like he went out for sure.

1286
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, an incredible afternoon and the Tigers look winning

1287
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:36,960
a sort of fair and square there and in fact

1288
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,320
I know that people were blowing up but he was

1289
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:39,800
off side.

1290
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,199
Speaker 3: It was very side.

1291
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: But also a few minutes earlier, like Mitch Moses gonna

1292
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,199
love tap and stay down for a pen So let's

1293
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,480
not you know like that that that, to be honest

1294
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:51,000
with you, the off side penalty, he was far more

1295
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:55,599
legitimate than the than the just on that too, Mitchell Moses,

1296
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:57,239
So he got a warning.

1297
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:59,039
Speaker 3: Letter apparently yes, from the NRL.

1298
00:59:59,239 --> 01:00:04,519
Speaker 2: Actually, Peter Go, Yeah, we have seen like literal suspensions

1299
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:07,320
of players when they've it's almost something's been an accidental touch.

1300
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: Did you remember jer Drome though I did a few

1301
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:10,880
years ago. I think he accidentally ran into one of

1302
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,000
the one of the rest. It was massive fural.

1303
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: Why are we Yeah, Mitch Moses, I think it.

1304
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,239
Speaker 3: Maybe he may pushed him out of the way. Actually yeah,

1305
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,440
by memory, but he was. It wasn't a malice or

1306
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,000
anything like that.

1307
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,639
Speaker 2: Because you've got Mitch Moses literally touching people.

1308
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: Well, see if all three sixty analyzed that tonight, Troy,

1309
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,599
they didn't. They didn't really do too much of it yesterday.

1310
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,239
Speaker 2: No, No, Gordon Teller's on three like wild. First of all,

1311
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,440
let me say, hilarious that renamed the theater.

1312
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,679
Speaker 3: I thought that was an April Fool's joke. Was that

1313
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:41,679
fair income or something?

1314
01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:43,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was an April Falls joke?

1315
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:45,199
Brilliant But even if it wasn't, how good was that?

1316
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,039
If they've actually done that, that's that's smart. But last

1317
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:50,480
night he's trying to have a debate about Stephen Crichton

1318
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:53,079
and if he saw this, yes, and he was trying

1319
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,280
to say, well, the loss of Stephen Crichton, potentially the

1320
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,039
game's best center, probably the game's best center, is a

1321
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,679
significant impact, and Gordey just wouldn't have it because he's

1322
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:03,280
a center. Because Gordy thinks that everything just happens in

1323
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,519
the forwards. Yeah, you know, And I really wish Brent

1324
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,559
Ree just turned around and said, hey, Gordy, do you

1325
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,639
think you guys might have struggled if Steve Rnof wasn't

1326
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:12,920
there in the ninety two and ninety three seasons where

1327
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,760
you won the comp Because I think the answer is yes,

1328
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,320
Like Jesus, Gordy, he's lost the plot. Gordy, I don't

1329
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,239
know if I don't know.

1330
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: That show does go pretty rogue these days, like you

1331
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,360
see an ast smash and like border Richie last night

1332
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,639
just absolutely given us. He used to do the same

1333
01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:27,079
with Buzz.

1334
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1335
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's bizarre.

1336
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,679
Speaker 3: It's still better than Agenda Setters, though, yes, well I

1337
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:34,159
haven't watched much more of Agenda Setters.

1338
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:36,639
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, all right now Panthers theme song

1339
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:39,920
Survivor Now, Nathan, last week you put through the nineteen

1340
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,199
ninety seven I've.

1341
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:44,159
Speaker 3: Heard Rod now at the Sydney Kings game the other day.

1342
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: That was him. Okay, he's there, all right, he's still alive.

1343
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:50,159
Live this. So you put that. That's through.

1344
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: That's through. That's through to the finals.

1345
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:54,639
Speaker 2: Right now, we've got another two songs, and you've got

1346
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:57,639
to pick one obviously to go through. Now, the first

1347
01:01:57,719 --> 01:01:59,840
one we've got is actually one. Now there's a bit

1348
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:03,639
of story behind this because this song was actually intended

1349
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:08,840
to essentially replace Go the Mighty Panthers. It's Panther Power.

1350
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,679
Speaker 3: I was meant to replace Go the Mighty.

1351
01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: Yes, so we've tried to replace Go the Mighty Panthers twice,

1352
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,119
so Swiss Tony tried to do it in about twenty

1353
01:02:17,239 --> 01:02:22,159
fifteen and then this in the nineties. Now Panthers will

1354
01:02:22,159 --> 01:02:24,079
probably deny that somewhere, but yes, there was a whole

1355
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:27,280
marketing refresh post super leagues. So I think it's ninety

1356
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,639
eight and this was the song, and I think there

1357
01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:31,239
was a bit of few also. We kind of then

1358
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,639
just ran with both songs. But this is Panther Power,

1359
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:43,280
first one up today. Very famous.

1360
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is very very synonymous with my time as

1361
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:56,480
a pretty Yes. Wow, I wonder who's singing.

1362
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,599
Speaker 2: This say you think it's the Robertson Brothers.

1363
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: Quiney Robinson, but get everything back in the day, isn't it,

1364
01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:06,079
And no one's trying to stop the sound nowhere and.

1365
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:14,719
Speaker 2: Look and.

1366
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,039
Speaker 5: The power of the us.

1367
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,079
Speaker 4: Back to the beginning, we would give them.

1368
01:03:26,159 --> 01:03:29,559
Speaker 3: No, that's true.

1369
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: Out still.

1370
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,079
Speaker 2: So we're just say, pretty synonymous period. That's the late nineties,

1371
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:47,559
early turns. During this period, I thinking Steve Carter at

1372
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:49,519
the end of his career. There was there used to

1373
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:51,239
be a video I think that used to maybe played

1374
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:54,519
around this song, and there was a Steve Carter. He

1375
01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:57,039
was up on the screen. He used to every turn

1376
01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:59,800
to the front of the screen, never give up, never

1377
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,360
get classy. So yep, this song was pretty iconic, and

1378
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,480
I reckon a lot of people would think one of

1379
01:04:07,519 --> 01:04:08,400
their favorite songs.

1380
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,239
Speaker 3: Yep, we'll see, We'll see what I.

1381
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,239
Speaker 2: Go with one more coming, yes, now the other one

1382
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,920
We've got This was introduced in the two thousands. Never

1383
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:21,320
Penris official song, but certainly sometimes used when Scott McCrae

1384
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,039
would come out in the Panther car. So it's certainly

1385
01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:26,760
got a lot of run during the sort of the

1386
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,320
mid two thousands. It's called we Are the Panthers. Do

1387
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,559
you remember this one? I do all right here it is.

1388
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: Not much too, it is that this one is there?

1389
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: No, not a lot of lyrics.

1390
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:02,159
Speaker 3: I think I remember it being better than this.

1391
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:23,639
Speaker 5: Well, all right, so I don't think we've ever heard

1392
01:05:23,719 --> 01:05:24,559
that full version.

1393
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: One can I can see why one can get through.

1394
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,519
So are you putting either that's we are the Panthers

1395
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,559
or Panther Power?

1396
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Troy, last week it was it was tough.

1397
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,000
It was tough to choose whether we had that nineteen

1398
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:43,840
sixty seven banger or Rodmeo's great wrap this this this week,

1399
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,920
it's a pretty clear cut. Panther Power has to go

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through to the next round. That we are the Panthers

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01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,559
is awful. I mean I remember it, I remember it well,

1402
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:55,840
But no, Panther Power brilliant.

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01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Panther Power is through. So as we start to

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01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:01,840
form the finals, we've got Panther Power and the other

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01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,519
nineteen ninety seven rap I don't even know what that

1406
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,639
actually called, the Super League, and they are through to

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01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:13,320
the finals. So we've got another round next week. Panther songs, it's.

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01:06:13,239 --> 01:06:15,599
Speaker 3: Good, it's good, you kept man of other clubs have

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01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:16,960
this many songs, Troy.

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01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,519
Speaker 2: I would doubt it. We have a lot of about

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01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:21,280
a lot of songs. We've had a lot of songs

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,039
over the years. And look, I think one day we

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01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:26,039
should actually try and look, we need to talk to

1414
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:28,400
Max cow and we need to talk to Swiss Tony

1415
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,360
and also Don felt Us. They've all been involved in

1416
01:06:32,599 --> 01:06:35,159
the the Go the Mighty Panthers dumpings, you know. So

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,039
I think Max was there around the Panther power time yep,

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01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,480
and then Swiss Toney when we had that whole array

1419
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:47,039
of array of songs. We I think that was ross

1420
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,199
defense one said all of that sort of stuff, and

1421
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,039
Go the Mighty Panthers was officially dumped. It was a

1422
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:57,119
game I think against Canberra we opened the season maybe

1423
01:06:57,159 --> 01:06:59,880
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and it was gone and we

1424
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:04,000
actually won and they didn't play in the in the

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01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:06,199
box and he's saying it's not mine.

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01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 5: I remember that.

1427
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: They were flooded with calls on Monday of demanding it

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01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:11,760
come back.

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: It doesn't surprise me.

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01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: I think it only took one game. It returned as

1431
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,079
the winning song in the next game. Those other songs

1432
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:21,880
lasted maybe the season. The defense one set thing, but

1433
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:24,639
after that they were They were very quickly based out

1434
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:25,880
of Panthers existence.

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01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:29,159
Speaker 3: That period of Penrith was just I don't know. It

1436
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:29,960
was tough, wasn't it.

1437
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to get him in Swiss Tony because

1438
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,000
let me tell you, we make a bit of fun

1439
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:36,639
of him. But he was just trying to be innovative

1440
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:38,840
at a time when Penrith had gone through years of

1441
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:41,519
poor performances. So he's come up with tried to come

1442
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:43,880
up with different things, and he's come up with the

1443
01:07:44,119 --> 01:07:45,239
cat suit for the cheer.

1444
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: That was one of the great things he broked in.

1445
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,159
But I think he just had no connection with the

1446
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,360
club in terms of history and how much fans hold

1447
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,800
onto the nostalgia and the history and you just can't.

1448
01:07:55,159 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: And I don't know how much involvement he had in

1449
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,119
the famous score one are we blamed gusts board. I

1450
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:01,679
think Swis Tony was around time.

1451
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,679
Speaker 3: Don't think he had his hand fingerprints and the logo

1452
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,400
as well. Yes, getting rid of the penriff out of the.

1453
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, and remember this will be another story. We

1454
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,960
need to find someone to talk about. Remember the logo

1455
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,280
that was never the logo. Yes, that's actually still around

1456
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,880
in yeah. Forms you know, some leaked logo came out.

1457
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,359
It was terrible. It looked like it was done in

1458
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,439
Microsoft paints.

1459
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: It looked bad.

1460
01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and places actually started using it randomly.

1461
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:30,359
Speaker 3: Ye needs to show on the show that showbag.

1462
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 2: And there's been I've got a I think like a

1463
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,000
pillow or something that has like a cushion that has

1464
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:37,720
that logo on it, the logo that never was. We

1465
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,359
might do I don't know, five bizarre penrith things or whatever,

1466
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,640
like things have gone like what about whatever happened to

1467
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,600
the big Bell? Or remember we had the bell, yes,

1468
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:49,640
the Viking plans, long before the Viking clan, we had

1469
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,720
a bell. Yes, we had famous panther people ringing the bell.

1470
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,159
I'm guessing that was a Hell's Bells connection.

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01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:00,319
Speaker 3: Yes, it would have been the Panther TV of horse.

1472
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,640
We had like a little studio was built up in the.

1473
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:07,119
Speaker 2: And the Big Ball. Yes, of course never returned after

1474
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:08,479
that guy broke his leak, he did.

1475
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 3: Yes, you there that night, you see that?

1476
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was He's still around his

1477
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:15,840
Michael I.

1478
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: Think, yeah, Michael, Yeah, I think I'm Facebook friends with him.

1479
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still around.

1480
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:20,159
Speaker 3: He's recovery.

1481
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: We had him and and that drama and all sorts

1482
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,640
of sorts of things. I did notice when Bally Simminson

1483
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,640
was that got in Gypt yesterday in the Eels game,

1484
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:32,159
the medi cap came out, but some blogs come out

1485
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:36,399
with a wheelchair. I did say that, Well they planned seriously.

1486
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,399
They weren't seriously thinking we'll whack him in this wheelchair

1487
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:40,079
and wheel.

1488
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:41,359
Speaker 5: I've never seen that before.

1489
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: That happened before, never seen that before. Like the meny

1490
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,119
cab was on its way, but randomly so was this

1491
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:52,920
guy on a wheelchair. Rugularly you can dish up some moments,

1492
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,239
no doubt about that. All right, Panthers Bulldogs this Thursday.

1493
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:57,920
There is an addition of extra time out this week.

1494
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,159
Who were speaking to an extra time this week.

1495
01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:03,359
Speaker 3: We've got Blaze to Lungey Yep telling us he came

1496
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:06,840
to Penrith to play with Nathan Cleary of course, and

1497
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,239
we've got most of the odor great connection with him

1498
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:12,279
and him and Nathan as Nathan celebrates two hundred games.

1499
01:10:12,399 --> 01:10:15,199
Speaker 2: We've got these celebrity tipsters as well. Emily catches up

1500
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:17,399
with Jack Cole, who has a very bizarre coffee order.

1501
01:10:18,039 --> 01:10:20,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, she really wants to try and trying to get

1502
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:22,239
me to get that as well. They all do the players.

1503
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,359
Speaker 2: Yes, you could be the face in the crowd. If

1504
01:10:24,359 --> 01:10:25,680
you're the facing the crowd, you can be a cruise

1505
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,600
about you. Yeah, pop in.

1506
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,079
Speaker 3: I've got plenty of cruises available.

1507
01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:31,359
Speaker 2: Love to meet you, yep, Sydney Harbor Cruz. Check that out.

1508
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:33,880
We've also got the set up. We've got all lots

1509
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,439
of great things. Alliam Henry poster this week. You'll with

1510
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,680
you back soon, back soon, So you can get the

1511
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,520
poster and put them up. And there's a lot of

1512
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,960
people that collect all the posters. And if you missed

1513
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,439
out a little bit of a hack, you can go

1514
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,399
to Western Weekend at all comm that I used panthers

1515
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,279
posters and they're all.

1516
01:10:47,239 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 3: There and you can just print them yourself.

1517
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: Print them out yourself, okay, download them all right. Well

1518
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,119
that is it for Tensions running High this week. New

1519
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:56,439
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1520
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,680
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1521
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,239
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1522
01:11:01,239 --> 01:11:03,680
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1523
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,199
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01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:08,880
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1525
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,640
sponsorship as well. We'll see you next time. On tensions

1526
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:18,920
are running high, let's go, panthers, go.

1527
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:23,279
Speaker 3: Ahead to stop, let to go, go ahead to stop,

1528
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:23,840
there to go.

1529
01:11:29,399 --> 01:11:34,079
Speaker 4: Just some lack of feeling when the feeling that you've

1530
01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:38,399
got it all got the people out of back wear.

1531
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,399
Speaker 3: The black attack and no one's trying to stop. The

1532
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,319
sound nowhere and that's that, the.

1533
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: Black attack and.

1534
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:54,159
Speaker 3: Now and looking back, and you got it right down.

1535
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: The power of Amunds were the back to the beginner.

1536
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,159
Speaker 5: We were given no hope work.

1537
01:12:03,279 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: So it's up twenty.

1538
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 4: Five years of flu swept on cheers to make it

1539
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:09,720
to the top.

1540
01:12:10,039 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 3: I can still hear the cheers and the pout