Speaker 1: Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew,
Speaker 1: and tonight i'd like to welcome back to the show
Speaker 1: the one and only Robert Stanley. How you doing, Robert doing?
Speaker 2: Oh, Chris, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back. And tonight, the first thing I'd
Speaker 1: like to talk about is one of the things I
Speaker 1: cover a lot of is sky phenomenon and UFO sightings,
Speaker 1: and it seems that there's been a recent uptick in
Speaker 1: those sightings. Is that something that you've encountered yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you go to my website at Unicus magazine dot com,
Speaker 2: you can see some photographs of UFOs I took here
Speaker 2: in Hong Kong July twenty first, I was actually just
Speaker 2: taking pictures of Mars. I didn't see the fleet of UFOs,
Speaker 2: and that's what it is. It looks like a fleet
Speaker 2: of UFOs. Although it appears that are round Mars and
Speaker 2: the photograph, they couldn't be because I'm only using a
Speaker 2: five hundred milimeters leans, So that means they had to
Speaker 2: be somewhere between my camera and Mars, probably pretty close
Speaker 2: to hard to say for sure, but they're pretty large
Speaker 2: actually in the picture. So I'm thinking they had to
Speaker 2: be fairly close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mars is extremely bright and beautiful right now,
Speaker 1: isn't it.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it like that. Man, it's unbelievable. Here
Speaker 2: on a clear night. Most of the time it's not
Speaker 2: clear because we're right on the ocean or the South
Speaker 2: China Sea and the harbor. But yeah, that particular night,
Speaker 2: I was amazed at how clear it was, extraordinarily clear.
Speaker 2: And I was set up my camera Nikon D five
Speaker 2: hundred with five hundred milimeter lens on the tripod and
Speaker 2: I'm shoot, shoot, shoot. I took all these pictures, and
Speaker 2: then after I looked at him, I was like, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, what's all this stuff. I mean, it's one
Speaker 2: thing to see stars in the background, but the stars
Speaker 2: aren't supposed to be moving. The star pattern can't move.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just impossible. So that means it had
Speaker 2: to be Some people have asked me, well, those could
Speaker 2: have been drones, and I'm I don't think so. I
Speaker 2: would have seen it or heard something if there were
Speaker 2: that many drawns in the sky. So anyway, that's yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems, you know, my myself have never
Speaker 1: seen a UFO. I mean, I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: strange sky phenomenon, some weird things that I couldn't identify,
Speaker 1: but it seems that some people have more sightings than others.
Speaker 1: Is would you see that? Seemed correct?
Speaker 2: Yep, yes it is, and I'm not sure exactly why,
Speaker 2: but it's happened to me that way for sure. And
Speaker 2: in fact, again, if you're on my website at the
Speaker 2: homepage Unicus Magazine dot com, you'll see the pictures I
Speaker 2: took in July twenty first, then you'll see other pictures
Speaker 2: I've taken over the years of UFOs over my house
Speaker 2: where I was living at the time, specifically Rhode Island
Speaker 2: at Manhattan Beach. I wish I could have photographed everything
Speaker 2: that I've seen in my life. It would have been
Speaker 2: that would be amazing. But at some point it becomes redundant.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's like, I know I being contacted,
Speaker 2: but not in the way that I am comfortable with.
Speaker 2: It's like I would like to be able to have
Speaker 2: a dialogue like this with them instead of just seeing
Speaker 2: the lights dancing around. It's like that's that's just infuriating
Speaker 2: at some point, Like I mean, I know they can
Speaker 2: read my thoughts and that there's some level of connectivity, consciousness, whatever.
Speaker 2: But we're just left here guessing as to who they
Speaker 2: really are, what do they want, why are they hear
Speaker 2: all that stuff?
Speaker 1: Well, and I know at some point in your life
Speaker 1: you had had some sort of a contact, whether it
Speaker 1: be conscious or unconscious. Isn't that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it started in Malibu in nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: five with a particular being said he was my father,
Speaker 2: and but I mean there was a lot of UFO
Speaker 2: encounters out there. But eventually, let's see, in nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: I started working as editor of Unicust magazine and that's
Speaker 2: when I actually we were reaching out to people. The
Speaker 2: subtitle of Unicus is the Magazine for extra Earthbound Extraterrestrials,
Speaker 2: so naturally we had to find we were looking for
Speaker 2: people that claimed that they were extra trustrials here on Earth.
Speaker 2: So I did meet two human beings, both men, who
Speaker 2: claimed that they were human extraterrestrials here. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: impossible to prove, okay, but we were trying, and I'm
Speaker 2: doing the same thing on my radio show. I'm just
Speaker 2: putting it out there that extraterrestrials, whether they're human or not,
Speaker 2: are welcome to be part of the program.
Speaker 1: And I have actually made that call out myself on
Speaker 1: my show. Yeah, I'd love to speak with you know,
Speaker 1: it'd be up to the audience to decide whether they're
Speaker 1: telling the truth or not. But you know, I'd love
Speaker 1: to speak with somebody who claimed to be an extraterrestrial.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there's somebody out there right now. You may
Speaker 2: have seen him on the YouTube. A guy named Eddie
Speaker 2: claims his dad as val Thor or Anu or whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean, anybody can say anything, especially on the Internet.
Speaker 2: There's really it's not like the old days of journalism,
Speaker 2: where you know, somebody or some group of people so
Speaker 2: called journalists would go out and vet stories and usually
Speaker 2: they would never report it if they didn't have at
Speaker 2: least two sources, independent sources, supposedly to lend more credibility
Speaker 2: to the information. I think even back then, though there
Speaker 2: was most of it was just propaganda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have some really crazy out there whistleblowers,
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote whistleblowers now that are just I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot of disinformation myself. What about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, and that would go for even this guy, Eddie.
Speaker 2: I do think that. I mean, he admits that he
Speaker 2: had been spent a period of years working with or
Speaker 2: for the CIA, and it seems to me that he's
Speaker 2: under some sort of mind control and doesn't even realize it.
Speaker 2: And he also said when he first went public with
Speaker 2: his story about being a human extraterrestrial here that he
Speaker 2: admittedly lied that his CIA hypnotherapist or hypnotist, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call it, therapist handler was actually sitting in
Speaker 2: the audience while he was lying to the You know,
Speaker 2: it's just like he had to tell us this lie
Speaker 2: before he could tell us the truth. I mean, that
Speaker 2: just doesn't it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't trust a lot of those And
Speaker 1: you know, the more research I do and the more
Speaker 1: people I talk to and listening to you, I start
Speaker 1: to realize, you know, we probably are in a simulation.
Speaker 1: I mean, would you say it's more of a training
Speaker 1: ground or a prison or both? I mean, what are
Speaker 1: you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point both. I'd have to say
Speaker 2: it's both. I mean I don't know that it originally
Speaker 2: started out that way. I mean, it's hard to say.
Speaker 2: It kind of came up again recently a couple of
Speaker 2: different sources authors had said that some of these Onanaki
Speaker 2: criminals psychopaths were actually imprisoned here, or I should say,
Speaker 2: are imprisoned here, and the analogy was like Australia. You know,
Speaker 2: the British Crown didn't ask the Aborigines of Australia. Hey,
Speaker 2: do you mind terribly if we drop off some of
Speaker 2: our undiesirables, some of our criminal element, you know, for
Speaker 2: whatever reason it happened, okay, And that's it explains a
Speaker 2: lot as to why psychopaths rise to the top here
Speaker 2: typically and aren't prosecuted properly in my opinion, and also
Speaker 2: why there's no disclosure, I mean full disclosure about the
Speaker 2: extraterustrial presence. I mean, even like with them the work
Speaker 2: of Zach Crystichen, he kept claiming that they had left,
Speaker 2: when in fact he knew that they were still here
Speaker 2: at least some contingent of them was still here or
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's just it's confusing, and yes,
Speaker 2: it's designed at some level. I do think this is
Speaker 2: being permitted because it challenges us in a way that
Speaker 2: allows us to grow.
Speaker 1: So you said, they're still here, do you think they're
Speaker 1: just in a different vibration or a different dimension.
Speaker 2: No, I think many of them are physical like you
Speaker 2: and I. Yeah, and that's that's why it's easy for
Speaker 2: them to blend in. Well, we're part of their family, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not like they're up here and we're the lowly
Speaker 2: worker they wanted. They would love for us to believe it,
Speaker 2: when in fact, well you look at again. Let's go
Speaker 2: back to Australia. The Aboriginal people supposedly are primitive and
Speaker 2: don't have technology, right, but they have other skills that
Speaker 2: the rest of us lack. And I think that their
Speaker 2: spiritual awareness is very high if I understand who they
Speaker 2: really are, and that would so you take that analogy
Speaker 2: and you apply it to us. I believe that we
Speaker 2: have an interdimensional we still have an interdimensional component, and
Speaker 2: we are not imprisoned here, so in fact, we have
Speaker 2: more certain skills that these fallen on Unaki psychopathic criminals don't.
Speaker 2: So they actually need us. This is why they want
Speaker 2: to control us and lie to us and trick us.
Speaker 2: Is because even though they were imprisoned here, they can
Speaker 2: if they can convince us under false pretenses to do
Speaker 2: certain things that will actually benefit them, then they can
Speaker 2: some At some point, they're probably thinking that they could
Speaker 2: break out with our help, and I think that's where
Speaker 2: the secret Space program came from.
Speaker 1: So they're essentially stuck here with us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could put it that way. I mean, so
Speaker 2: that would also explain why this world, whether it's a
Speaker 2: simulation or not. I don't think it was originally that way.
Speaker 2: I do think the simulation came later. And now I'm
Speaker 2: starting to wonder if what we call the simulation wasn't
Speaker 2: actually part of the way of containing or quarantining these
Speaker 2: particular psychopathic on a Nachi prisoners.
Speaker 1: That's very interesting. Now, is there a divine source or
Speaker 1: creator that created the whole simulation.
Speaker 2: I imagine there is, but I do think it's it's
Speaker 2: being run by an artificial intelligence. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it originally started that way, but it seems to me
Speaker 2: completely synthetic in that regard. It's like overlaid on what
Speaker 2: was originally organic, and so it's dominating, manipulating, controlling, But
Speaker 2: it didn't create anything except as false matrix that's overlaid
Speaker 2: on top of it, like a hologram on top of
Speaker 2: a hologram. Basically, do you.
Speaker 1: Think that this entity is something that's always been or
Speaker 1: at created at some point.
Speaker 2: Oh well, if if we're talking about us, like Yanky
Speaker 2: or Lucifer, then yes, of course he has has to
Speaker 2: be and have created he as a family. And a
Speaker 2: lot of that information is available in my library for free,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I just share the information. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to sell anything. Most of everything actually on
Speaker 2: my website is bringing I don't have any ads. I
Speaker 2: hate ads. So in any case, this this is a
Speaker 2: very special time we're living through because it appears that
Speaker 2: disclosure obviously is not going to come from official sources,
Speaker 2: because they're at all they talk about collusion, you know,
Speaker 2: these guys really it's not even that. It's a whole
Speaker 2: other level where there are so many pawns and I think,
Speaker 2: let them know it, but they don't know how to
Speaker 2: break free of that bondage to these particular entities. And
Speaker 2: but yeah, there are also divine beings here. I mean,
Speaker 2: you think about it. Okay, So back to Australia, if
Speaker 2: you when they put all those criminals in these particular
Speaker 2: penal camps, they had oversight, they had you know, officers
Speaker 2: in charge of law enforce and they didn't just let
Speaker 2: them run around completely doing whatever they want, typically or
Speaker 2: injurious So the same is true for these particular onnonarchy
Speaker 2: that are imprisoned here. There has to be some oversight
Speaker 2: or law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Now these elites, I mean means that some of them
Speaker 1: just have no soul? Are there people that are just
Speaker 1: soulless that are just part of this simulation?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, so I'm learning something about that. I've
Speaker 2: always resisted the idea because it seemed very counterintuitive that
Speaker 2: there could be anything living here that was soulless. But yes,
Speaker 2: the the matrix itself is a program and that within
Speaker 2: it it's created, uh, programs that are that have no
Speaker 2: soul attached to it. So some thing about synthetic life
Speaker 2: is not from it's not coming from the source of
Speaker 2: all souls. It's it's something artificial. And so, uh. The
Speaker 2: other thing is I'm trying to think what was the
Speaker 2: connection I came up with recently. It'll come to me
Speaker 2: in a second. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh well, now, as for these these people here that
Speaker 1: you know are part of the simulation, do they even
Speaker 1: know that they're yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's a book in my library called The
Speaker 2: Stellar man, Please look it up. This is a very
Speaker 2: difficult read. It's it's in English, but it's very uh sobering.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's it's difficult to accept that we have been hoodwinked
Speaker 2: so bad and connect to this matrix, this computer like simulation,
Speaker 2: to the point where we've become robotic animals. They wanted
Speaker 2: us to go down that route so our consciousness would
Speaker 2: be so under their control that it would be to
Speaker 2: their advantage serving their agenda. So the book The Stellar
Speaker 2: Man is coming from a place of hermeticism that would
Speaker 2: be based on the teaching of Hermes, who's also known
Speaker 2: as Toth or Mercury or KITT's Quaddle or Viracocha or
Speaker 2: Gabriel or more recently, I discovered his other identity of
Speaker 2: name would be baba Jee, which means benevolent father. So
Speaker 2: the teachings of hermeticism take us beyond the matrix. Even
Speaker 2: though we're still here, we can actually start to go
Speaker 2: beyond it. But it's a very difficult process. Very few
Speaker 2: people have the ability or the courage to practice those
Speaker 2: those insights. It's really what it is. It's it's a
Speaker 2: personal thing. It's not a group. I think it's not
Speaker 2: religious it's a process and you have to do that individually. Yes,
Speaker 2: you can ask for help, but ultimately it comes down
Speaker 2: to one's individual content consciousness. So this is again I
Speaker 2: think in what I was raised in self realization under
Speaker 2: Paramhanzi Yogananda, that this is essentially what it is. Baba
Speaker 2: Jee also Hermes Toth, whatever you want to call him,
Speaker 2: he has been our benefactor. He is one of the
Speaker 2: spiritually ast masters that is here until things get corrected,
Speaker 2: because again it was unfair and it's obviously a violation
Speaker 2: of our free will, and more importantly, it's impeding our
Speaker 2: ability to evolve as souls in the true creation. So
Speaker 2: the matrix is actually serving a purpose that was for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, I don't think it was its an intent intentional,
Speaker 2: excuse me, the original intent for whatever it was. This
Speaker 2: there's the unintended consequence is that that this particular classroom
Speaker 2: setting is testing us on many levels. And if once
Speaker 2: we go past those levels, we've actually become much stronger.
Speaker 2: So it's it's an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, now, are there ways to you know,
Speaker 1: reach these levels without actually dying? And is even death
Speaker 1: reaching another level?
Speaker 2: Well, it is if you're prepared for it, and that's
Speaker 2: why I TA wrote the book, the so called Book
Speaker 2: of the Dead, It's actually should be spelled the Book
Speaker 2: of the Jed d j E D. What the jed
Speaker 2: is actually a symbolic of the tree of life or
Speaker 2: the Kundalini, the chakra system. So this is something if
Speaker 2: you work on it prior to the physical death, your
Speaker 2: spirit will have a much better time negotiating those other
Speaker 2: realms of existence beyond this one.
Speaker 1: And it seems that there are certain things that kind
Speaker 1: of help to keep us from realizing who we are
Speaker 1: and what we are in this and technology is one
Speaker 1: of those things. I believe. Yes, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: good things about it, but there's a lot of really
Speaker 1: leveling and evil things, wouldn't you agree?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, there's an article and if you go to
Speaker 2: Nikis magazine dot com, click on articles, scroll down, there's
Speaker 2: one about our body actually glows amidst light. I forget
Speaker 2: the exact title, but what it it proves is that, Okay,
Speaker 2: so the light coming off of our body, the frequency
Speaker 2: coming out of the DNA, that is, some of it
Speaker 2: is feeding back to give us a sense of self.
Speaker 2: Some of it is also interacting just like through this medium. Here,
Speaker 2: some portion of our light, energy, consciousness is being exchanged.
Speaker 2: It isn't just verbal, especially when we're face to face,
Speaker 2: but even through this medium, it's we're you know, the
Speaker 2: speed of thought is beyond what we think of or
Speaker 2: choose to believe as the speed of light, which is
Speaker 2: a lie. It's a very huge another one of the
Speaker 2: great big lies they told us. But the bottom line
Speaker 2: is the cell phone technology, especially now with five G,
Speaker 2: is vibrating about on the same frequency as the light
Speaker 2: emitted from our bodies. So what this is doing intentionally
Speaker 2: is cutting us off from not only from having a
Speaker 2: sense of self, but also connecting to others and more importantly,
Speaker 2: connecting to what is beyond this matrix is a web
Speaker 2: of light. That is where we come from, that is
Speaker 2: where we return to it. Souls and everything is connected
Speaker 2: in this web of light. And this is why crea
Speaker 2: yoga not as a religious thing, but as an actual technique,
Speaker 2: a process, a scientific repeatable process. It's proven to work.
Speaker 2: We have the so called out of body experience, and
Speaker 2: this is where the baptism of spirit comes from. And
Speaker 2: by by meditating on this particular sound, when we generate
Speaker 2: this sound of all it's not a name, it's not
Speaker 2: a title, it's a sound. And it's just like when
Speaker 2: you tune into a radio station. You know, you turn
Speaker 2: you turn your radio tunes into this particular frequency, and
Speaker 2: now you've got the lock and then you you can
Speaker 2: actually hear the signal. The same is true for us
Speaker 2: here without dying, you know, we can tune into that
Speaker 2: particular frequency and connect with the web of light. This
Speaker 2: is also known as the being born again in spirit.
Speaker 2: You need the baptism of spirit. They typically call these web.
Speaker 2: This web is that it's actually like rivers or streams
Speaker 2: of light sometimes oceans of light. Just like on the planet,
Speaker 2: you know, you have streams, rivers, oceans, and the cosmos
Speaker 2: you have these the light consciousness energy is constantly flowing
Speaker 2: through and connecting to itself. So when we've been here,
Speaker 2: especially when we've been here too long and we're involved
Speaker 2: in these technologies and other issues that distract us, uh,
Speaker 2: it's we lose that connectivity to the cosmic web of light.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The other thing is the tree of life that they
Speaker 2: talk about in the Bible is actually I now understand
Speaker 2: it as the tree of light. And what that is
Speaker 2: is it's a metaphor for our the chakra system, the kulini,
Speaker 2: the jed as they called it in Egypt. Uh As.
Speaker 2: The energy runs up through the spine and out through
Speaker 2: those particular chakra whatever you want to call them, the conduits,
Speaker 2: those little spinning wheels of energy, the little vortoises of
Speaker 2: energy that run through the body and like branches of
Speaker 2: a tree. So the deal of light is actually a
Speaker 2: metaphor for the physical body.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's very interesting. And and not only you know,
Speaker 1: are they trying to program us with you know, cell
Speaker 1: phones and technology. It seems like with the food and
Speaker 1: water and the air, everything, everything is everything changing our vibration.
Speaker 2: God, there's dust in this room, try not to trying
Speaker 2: not to steeze. So, yes, you're right, everything in this
Speaker 2: particular world is designed to distract us and also control.
Speaker 2: So I mean, this entire matrix, this particular level of
Speaker 2: reality is designed for around competition and control. So it's
Speaker 2: very difficult to break free that. It takes a lot
Speaker 2: of courage and effort, I mean persistent effort. You can't
Speaker 2: just pick it up one day and say, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm going to achieve enlightenment. But yeah, it's it's things
Speaker 2: with these these come on aaki, whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call them, fallen angels, dark lords. They're imprisoned here, they
Speaker 2: don't have they're not omnipotent, and there are restrictions placed
Speaker 2: upon them and what they can do to us. And
Speaker 2: they don't want us to know that, obviously, because that
Speaker 2: would just well it would make it very much more
Speaker 2: difficult for them while they're here. So that's something we
Speaker 2: have to keep in mind. Is there we have a
Speaker 2: lot more ability or capability or potential that is now awakening,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're freaking out and acting more increasingly desperate.
Speaker 1: Now, would you say the entire universe is part of
Speaker 1: this simulation? Is like a giant interface or is it?
Speaker 1: You're each different kind of world its own simulation.
Speaker 2: Okay, so beyond this particular matrix, I don't think it's
Speaker 2: the entire It's not really even a universe. It's just
Speaker 2: a it's a simulation of a universe within a particular universe.
Speaker 2: And why am I saying that is because there isn't
Speaker 2: just one universe. There's multiple. There may be infinite numbers
Speaker 2: of universes that are created by an infinite number of
Speaker 2: creator gods. It's a co creation. Who knows where this started. Okay,
Speaker 2: it may have started with a singularity or a single entity,
Speaker 2: but that entity has like a tree, a tree of light,
Speaker 2: and it ultimately became mature enough that it bore seeds
Speaker 2: of light that would be us. And well, we're still
Speaker 2: in the seedling phase. But I'm just saying that's how
Speaker 2: we got here. It's a very organic process. So there
Speaker 2: are an infinite number of creator And the thing what
Speaker 2: I like about all this is, in fact, are we're
Speaker 2: related to all these other entities. It's it's and that's
Speaker 2: one of the reasons they're very concerned about us and
Speaker 2: want to connect with us in a way that's going
Speaker 2: to be acceptable to us, because we've been there, We've
Speaker 2: been like to these so many times, but so many things.
Speaker 2: It's very difficult for us to even comprehend some of
Speaker 2: the things that they would like to share with us,
Speaker 2: and especially when it comes to the emotions that they feel,
Speaker 2: it's just overwhelming. I'm talking about the Benett beings now.
Speaker 2: It's just it's really impossible to put in words how
Speaker 2: they look at us. I'll just tell you this way briefly,
Speaker 2: is that the way they made it clear to me
Speaker 2: that their love for us is never ending, which is
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to believe considering how brutal we
Speaker 2: are have been, I should say, for so long relatively speaking.
Speaker 2: I mean, time is not not he it's limited. Our
Speaker 2: understanding of time is actually an illusion, and it's blinding
Speaker 2: us from seeing the bigger picture and more importantly connecting
Speaker 2: with the rest of the family and.
Speaker 1: These benevolent ones. Would you say that there's possibly a
Speaker 1: war going on with the benevolent aliens or ets?
Speaker 2: Okay from the dark side believes it is at war
Speaker 2: because there they feel threatened. They're okay, their ego, their
Speaker 2: way of life is threatened indirectly by those of us
Speaker 2: that are in the light. The benevolent ones naturally are
Speaker 2: not aggressive and would never start a war, but you know,
Speaker 2: at some point they have to defend themselves and more importantly,
Speaker 2: limit the amount of damage that the dark lords could do,
Speaker 2: have done, or could do in the future. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's an act of kindness actually what they did by
Speaker 2: bringing them here, because where else are they going to
Speaker 2: put them? I mean, there's only so many places they
Speaker 2: could possibly put them, right, Nobody wants a prison in
Speaker 2: their backyard, right, okay, but they have to put them somewhere,
Speaker 2: they have to be dealt with. I mean, just exterminating
Speaker 2: them is completely inhumane, and anybody who's benevolent would never
Speaker 2: do that, especially when you consider from their perspective that
Speaker 2: we're all family. You don't just kill your family members
Speaker 2: because they're crazy.
Speaker 1: Now you were saying that, you know earlier that levels,
Speaker 1: the deepest levels of the Deep State have contact with
Speaker 1: these beings.
Speaker 2: Of course they do, because they're controlled by it, and
Speaker 2: at some point they realize that there's a Dutch banker
Speaker 2: that that has come forward, Especially in his more recent interview,
Speaker 2: he actually just said they're Luciferian, they're Satanic, they are
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial and extra dimensional. What he didn't say, though, that
Speaker 2: is the one those particular entities are stuck here. It's
Speaker 2: an important distinction. Okay, it's not like they remain uh oh,
Speaker 2: this particular world or maybe even the it could be
Speaker 2: the whole Solar system is quarantine. I'm not sure, because
Speaker 2: it seems like they're not just limited to this world.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Now, there seem to have been all these
Speaker 1: cataclysms throughout our history. Do they re intention do they
Speaker 1: intentionally reset the matrix at times or is this natural occurrences?
Speaker 2: Well, it's nothing about this as natural. It's an overlay
Speaker 2: on top of the natural system. Okay. One of the
Speaker 2: things that's con assistant in this particular simulation is that
Speaker 2: it's all about destruction, chaos, cruelty, corruption. Again, this is
Speaker 2: all about control. They need to control us. So one
Speaker 2: of the ways they do that is to and I
Speaker 2: think that's really why they altered our DNA. It wasn't
Speaker 2: to turn us into workers, although we do serve them.
Speaker 2: That's what the word worship actually means to work for.
Speaker 2: So we do worship them under various guises of you know,
Speaker 2: oh it's a god, it's an angel, it's a lord, whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean. They gave us our modern religion. The fallen
Speaker 2: ones actually did give us our religion, which is too,
Speaker 2: which would explain why they all fight with one another.
Speaker 2: They all disagree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. I mean,
Speaker 1: so most of the religions were created for control, for
Speaker 1: deliberate control.
Speaker 2: Correct, Unfortunately. Yeah, And so that's the other thing. It's
Speaker 2: going to be differ for some people to accept because
Speaker 2: there is a level of comfort when you when a
Speaker 2: person joins a religion. It isn't just about God. It's
Speaker 2: about group think. It's about fitting in and feeling mmm, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're you actually abdicates, abdicate some of your personal responsibility
Speaker 2: when you're in a group. I think when you follow
Speaker 2: the rules like that, you don't have to take personal
Speaker 2: responsibility as much for your thoughts and deeds because it's
Speaker 2: all in a book and the priest said so, and whatever,
Speaker 2: the pope or something. You know, you just follow the
Speaker 2: rules of that group as opposed to actually finding your
Speaker 2: own path. It's it's which can be a little frightening
Speaker 2: in this world. Actually, they don't encourage it, let's put
Speaker 2: it that way.
Speaker 1: So what do you think goes on at the Vatican.
Speaker 1: What do you think that whole construct is about. Is
Speaker 1: it Luciferian?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luciferian Satanic? That would be Ankee and his son Marduk,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they're in prison here or not.
Speaker 2: It's hard to say. I mean, these things are evolving
Speaker 2: as you know. The thing is, I'm working on this
Speaker 2: every day because personally, I feel and I have a
Speaker 2: need to know. I have a right to know these things,
Speaker 2: even though they are hidden and very much twisted, twisted,
Speaker 2: deeply mangled, you know, layers of lies. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of truth mixed in with layers and
Speaker 2: layers and layers and layers of lies. So it's a
Speaker 2: difficult task to unravel these things. But you know, as
Speaker 2: I get new information, my understanding this evolves, and that's
Speaker 2: why I do shows like this, and I also put
Speaker 2: whatever information is coming to me, I put it on
Speaker 2: my Internet for other people to look at, and.
Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate that. Robert, Well, it seems I've been
Speaker 1: thinking that the divine feminine you don't hear anything about
Speaker 1: the divine feminine anymore. Is that intentionally suppressed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, because this is much like the mafia,
Speaker 2: is very patriarchal. So these criminals, these cosmic criminals that
Speaker 2: are here are it's very much a male dominated thing,
Speaker 2: and they know that they don't have that level of
Speaker 2: creativity that divine feminine embodies.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: In fact, everything about the creative process at its very
Speaker 2: core is a feminine matrix, and so they can't compete
Speaker 2: with that, and that's why they push it out as
Speaker 2: much as possible. This me too hashtag me too movement
Speaker 2: isn't really for the benefit of women or let alone
Speaker 2: the divine feminine. It's just further the level of control
Speaker 2: to keep us divided down in this particular realm.
Speaker 1: And do you think that's where they're going with the
Speaker 1: whole transhumanism?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. Again, it's a perversion
Speaker 2: of nature as we know it, whereas actually, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure all the life here was symbiotic and
Speaker 2: that humans as we consider ourselves, were hermaphrodite. So even
Speaker 2: though we may look like we were females, we were
Speaker 2: in fact we had both and both sex organs or
Speaker 2: what do you recall it, We had the capacity to
Speaker 2: give birth on our own because we were hermaphrodite. I
Speaker 2: should say, the original life forms here with that, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure they are on other worlds too, are still
Speaker 2: that hasn't changed.
Speaker 1: Very very interesting. So going back to when I had
Speaker 1: asked you about the resets, that we are in store
Speaker 1: for another reset or can?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably really? And now is this something that we could
Speaker 1: control at all?
Speaker 2: No, now we can only control our own consciousness or
Speaker 2: understanding of these things. That again, most of it mostly synthetic.
Speaker 2: It's criminal and it's beyond our control. It's not really
Speaker 2: our responsibility. We're only responsible for our own consciousness and
Speaker 2: our deeds. So this and there are I don't know
Speaker 2: what the percentage is, but there are a number of
Speaker 2: us souls that either have awakened or our awakening now
Speaker 2: that we'll find a way out now, whether it's on
Speaker 2: our own or if we're going to get in assistance
Speaker 2: like refugees. I do think there's a possibility that a
Speaker 2: lot of us are going to migrate out of here
Speaker 2: in the very near future, in the next few years.
Speaker 2: I think we'll see as disclosure comes. Unofficially, disclosure is coming.
Speaker 2: It's already happening, and people are waking up and they're
Speaker 2: making choices based on the information that's coming out. I
Speaker 2: feel from benevolent sources that people are souls are going
Speaker 2: to choose to leave. They've just had enough and they
Speaker 2: have every right to do that. That's you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: this was a huge violation on some level, but it
Speaker 2: was always known by the benevolent ones that this was
Speaker 2: not permanent. It's not an eternal sentence and damnation, you know,
Speaker 2: it was a temporary situation. They've been watching over us
Speaker 2: to make sure we didn't get harmed too badly, and
Speaker 2: they've been guiding us so that we can learn from these.
Speaker 2: Think of it like this. When you go to school,
Speaker 2: you have a test. Once you pass the this particular test,
Speaker 2: let's say first grade. Right, you graduated from the first grade.
Speaker 2: They've given you all kinds of tests on this level. Well,
Speaker 2: where where do you go the next level? And it's
Speaker 2: like that, right, you keep going, going, going until you're
Speaker 2: supposedly done with that. And it's not mandatory, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, supposedly you have to go to school here, right,
Speaker 2: otherwise they come and get you and force you to
Speaker 2: learn their indoctrination. And I'm talking about public schools. Right,
Speaker 2: every child just has to go through the system to
Speaker 2: be programmed. But I was fortunate I didn't have to
Speaker 2: do that so much. I actually started I think it
Speaker 2: was junior high is I was traveling with my parents,
Speaker 2: so I took correspondence courses in order to graduate from
Speaker 2: junior high. Then the same thing happened in high school,
Speaker 2: and so I learned how to educate myself. And in fact,
Speaker 2: that's part of the harmetic process, is realizing that you
Speaker 2: can't expect someone to give you the all the answers,
Speaker 2: especially in a group setting, by joining a religion or
Speaker 2: a cult or whatever, and you know, waving a magic
Speaker 2: wand and on it. Stuff that doesn't work. You have
Speaker 2: to do it individually, become self realized.
Speaker 1: So so for someone who's just waking up to all
Speaker 1: the crap around them and just overwhelmed, is it possible
Speaker 1: for them to be able to ascend? When you say this,
Speaker 1: this window is going to occur.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I think I don't like that word, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I know people use it a lot. I think of
Speaker 2: it more as a liberation. We're able to leave this setting.
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, look, if you can't spend your entire
Speaker 2: life in a classroom, you have to at some point
Speaker 2: you have to leave the classroom and go out and
Speaker 2: live this so called real world and apply whatever you've
Speaker 2: learned here in the real world. So that's what the
Speaker 2: It's an opportunity. We're not really evolving or I think
Speaker 2: we're being given the opportunity to leave this particular matrix
Speaker 2: at a time that's beneficial for us because we choose
Speaker 2: to do that, and it's it's going to be amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm it's kind of hard to explain to you, but
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. In my library, there's a
Speaker 2: new book that the Extraterrestrial on Anachy. He's the third
Speaker 2: son of Ankie, brother of Marduk, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 2: Book in my library. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, So there's a book in my library
Speaker 2: called Bobajee the Extraterrestrial. It's very difficult to read, but
Speaker 2: essentially Babaji is, like I said, the brother of Marduk
Speaker 2: or Raw also known as Satan. He's the son. He's
Speaker 2: a third son of Ankie, also known as Lucifer. So
Speaker 2: it's kind of strange that such a divine being or
Speaker 2: a master would come from that particular family, but he did.
Speaker 2: He does, and there's a lot of important insights in
Speaker 2: that particular book. If you don't, if you find it
Speaker 2: too difficult, I would suggest you read the forty third
Speaker 2: chapter of Autobiography of a Yogi. And why is that important?
Speaker 2: Yogananda is Guru Sri Yukittsar. When he physically passed away,
Speaker 2: he came back, allegedly came back in his astral body
Speaker 2: and spoke to Yogananda and explained to him what the
Speaker 2: multiverse really is all the different levels, from the highest
Speaker 2: level of source to the causal plane, to the astral
Speaker 2: plane to the physical plane that we're at now. So
Speaker 2: this is very helpful because, I mean, it gives you
Speaker 2: a perspective of the real big picture. And there's he
Speaker 2: even talks in there about the dark angels, the fallen ones.
Speaker 2: They're in prison, he says this. He says, they're imprisoned
Speaker 2: in the lower astral So it's it's a very very
Speaker 2: insightful book.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I read that when I was a child, and and
Speaker 2: I've read it a few times after that, but only
Speaker 2: recently when I read it again, it actually, excuse me,
Speaker 2: it actually for the first time made sense to me.
Speaker 2: I mean, the full, full on. I could see it
Speaker 2: all in a way that I'd never seen before, which
Speaker 2: is it's a sign that I personally am having these realizations,
Speaker 2: this awareness. But we have to act on it, you know,
Speaker 2: we have to act on these these insights. And so
Speaker 2: one of the things that I've done is become vegetarian. Again.
Speaker 2: Meditating by itself is one thing, but you have to
Speaker 2: take care of your body in order for it to
Speaker 2: function well, to be a good conduit or connection to
Speaker 2: the web of light for your consciousness, for your soul. Okay,
Speaker 2: so certain foods definitely help us have a different level
Speaker 2: of vibration.
Speaker 3: Or light.
Speaker 2: So this is and actually this is well known even
Speaker 2: outside religious circles, that certain foods contain more energy, more
Speaker 2: life as opposed to especially the processed foods with all
Speaker 2: the chemicals and whatnot, those are designed to really eat
Speaker 2: lower our frequency as as you know, as much as
Speaker 2: as possible without killing the buying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so hard to find good food, you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you're gonna buy it, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: so expensive. They try to do anything to keep you
Speaker 1: from getting the good nutrition that your body needs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and water too, like you said in air and whatever.
Speaker 2: But but we can control this, and it's again it's
Speaker 2: a choice. There's we are fixated with the idea of
Speaker 2: having protein, when in fact, what we're really looking for
Speaker 2: is light. So when we leave this particular plane and
Speaker 2: we moved to the akashik and then the causal plane,
Speaker 2: what we consider to be our vehicle, our body, our
Speaker 2: expression of the soul and extension of the soul. The
Speaker 2: vehicle we absorbed the light. We just absorb it like
Speaker 2: a plant absorbed sunlight. There was a time in the
Speaker 2: past when that actually was the case. Here, our bodies
Speaker 2: actually have something similar to chlorophyll. It's not called that.
Speaker 2: It's something else but and I forget the name of it.
Speaker 2: It's some scientific name. But our bodies don't have much
Speaker 2: of it now. But if we had more of it
Speaker 2: in our blood, we would be able to just absorb
Speaker 2: the light directly. We are absorbing light indirectly through our food.
Speaker 2: And it's so again certain foods contain more of that
Speaker 2: light energy.
Speaker 1: Very interesting, and this opportunity to escape. You think this
Speaker 1: is being offered to us by the benevolent ones.
Speaker 2: Well, of course they don't want us to be stuck here.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you think about it. Your family
Speaker 2: wants you to come home from school. I went through
Speaker 2: this recently when we moved to Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: Are some.
Speaker 2: He stayedlined for a couple of years, and he yes,
Speaker 2: he came to visit us when he was on summer
Speaker 2: and winter break. But the separation anxiety that I actually
Speaker 2: made me depressed, and I know he was feeling it
Speaker 2: as well. So I use that as an analogy that
Speaker 2: our family beyond this matrix actually misses us and is
Speaker 2: looking forward to the day when some of us choose
Speaker 2: to leave here and come home.
Speaker 1: So where do you see us as a planet going
Speaker 1: in the next five to ten years.
Speaker 2: Or we're going to go into after so called outer
Speaker 2: space and colonize the Moon and Mars. And of course
Speaker 2: I think we've already done this secretly on behalf of
Speaker 2: these particular or fallen angels, dark lords, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it, again, to serve their agenda, assist them
Speaker 2: in some fashion secretly. But now we see that this
Speaker 2: is being talked about openly every day. I talk about
Speaker 2: a lot on my show, not just my opinion. I
Speaker 2: mean I comment on things in the news, like this
Speaker 2: latest thing that they've developed a space force, this new
Speaker 2: branch of the military. The current head of NASA has
Speaker 2: said that the military is going to go to the
Speaker 2: Moon despite whatever treaties we have with the UN. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's like they're saying, basically saying, screw you. We're really
Speaker 2: good at breaking treaties, just as the Native Americans, and
Speaker 2: we're going to do what we want because it's within
Speaker 2: our national interests or what they sometimes called manifest destiny.
Speaker 1: So you think we already have operations on Mars and
Speaker 1: the Moon.
Speaker 2: What do you mean America or Shadow Government? Yeah, yes, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I know they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So how do you know how long we've had
Speaker 1: this going? I mean, has it been you know, decades
Speaker 1: or longer?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely decades. I mean for sure the German secret
Speaker 2: societies were I think baited into this thinking it was
Speaker 2: somehow going to benefit them. I don't think that. I
Speaker 2: don't think it worked out well for them ultimately. You know,
Speaker 2: this is the thing you may have temporary, if you
Speaker 2: may cut a deal with these particular entities. They may
Speaker 2: give you something initially, but then you owe them. It's
Speaker 2: just like the Mob. I'm telling you. These guys are
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden and they they they're very
Speaker 2: good atting people into these arrangements, deals that serve their agenda.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been going on for some time.
Speaker 1: Now do you think they know about this upcoming opportunity.
Speaker 2: Or oh yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And does just make them nervous?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's making them. It's freaking them out because they
Speaker 2: need Now we're talking about the Dark Lords, not thee
Speaker 2: Shadow Government. The Dark Lords absolutely need us, or they
Speaker 2: think they need us. They don't want to be just
Speaker 2: stuck here by themselves without us. They've they've lost certain
Speaker 2: advantages and or abilities that they're using us like a
Speaker 2: tool essentially, And they also feed off of some of
Speaker 2: the dark energy that comes off as when we hurt
Speaker 2: ourselves or others. So they need our creativity, they need
Speaker 2: our cosmic consciousness or light energy. Of course it's perverted
Speaker 2: into something very dark. You know, sort is telling you
Speaker 2: before our body emits light but through the DNA, but
Speaker 2: when we hurt ourselves or others, the light frequency shifts
Speaker 2: to something that is very dark and distorted, or they
Speaker 2: call it dissonant. It's no longer resonant and harmonious. It's
Speaker 2: this dissonant energy, and that's actually what they feed off of.
Speaker 2: So they really do see us as a resource and
Speaker 2: tools basically pawns, their pawns. So yes, they don't they
Speaker 2: don't want us leaving. That's not going to help them.
Speaker 1: So one of the best ways to get on your
Speaker 1: journey out, you would say, is good diet, you know,
Speaker 1: good works, and meditation, getting to know yourself and going
Speaker 1: within yourself.
Speaker 2: Would you agree, Yeah, it's through the heart, not the mind.
Speaker 2: You have to open your heart and go within, and
Speaker 2: it's actually a vord fortics, it's a spiraling inward and
Speaker 2: that's what opens the door to the great beyond. So
Speaker 2: the thing about meditation is most people think it's just
Speaker 2: you're you're going to stop all the thought process, and
Speaker 2: I don't. I disagree. We're not designed like that. We
Speaker 2: need to have at least one thing to focus on,
Speaker 2: and it's actually very difficult. I just don't think it's foine.
Speaker 2: I know people claim that they can stop thinking about everything.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe it. Nobody is brave enough to
Speaker 2: do a submitted Oh no, I can't stop that. What
Speaker 2: you can do, though, is by focusing. This is why
Speaker 2: they show you a mandala or you chant, well, particularly
Speaker 2: you repeat a chant. It allows you to focus on
Speaker 2: one thing, and the more you can focus on one thing,
Speaker 2: the other stuff kind of fades back. And so meditation
Speaker 2: is really a form of deep, deep, deep concentration. What
Speaker 2: are we concentrating on? Hopefully it's reconnecting to this web
Speaker 2: of light and the process is again that's what crea
Speaker 2: yoga is really at the core of it all, it's
Speaker 2: about reconnecting us and that's actually what yoga means it's
Speaker 2: a union or connecting connectivity. So this comes to us
Speaker 2: from this particular entity, Baba Jee Benevolent Father. And I
Speaker 2: told you he has many different names, and many people
Speaker 2: actually love him. They just don't understand how much he
Speaker 2: loves us because he chose to stay here, knowing what
Speaker 2: a mess it really is. He chose to stay here
Speaker 2: and really be our spiritual father. And what does that mean?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, when you take care of a child,
Speaker 2: you make sure that they don't get heard, and you
Speaker 2: you nurture their growth. You can't do things for them,
Speaker 2: but you can help nurture them, right, So that's what
Speaker 2: he's been doing. I've only now I'm fifty eight, I
Speaker 2: only now finally understand the role he's played in my life,
Speaker 2: and it's still playing in my life. It's really quite astonishing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and is this a physical entity that could come
Speaker 1: back at some point?
Speaker 2: He never left. Yeah, he can express himself in physical form,
Speaker 2: but he is way beyond that. He's a self realized master,
Speaker 2: what they call an avatar, or more specifically a Maha avatar.
Speaker 2: He is very high level soul, but he choose to
Speaker 2: stay behind. And that particular concept or act is called
Speaker 2: a body zatva. So instead of him just going off
Speaker 2: into the higher realms and saying, hey, good luck, he
Speaker 2: stays here until the work is done, till the probably
Speaker 2: to the last soul is chooses to leave. It's an
Speaker 2: incredible undertaking. But you know, think of it this way.
Speaker 2: He is, he knows he's immortal, He chooses to be immortal.
Speaker 2: He knows he's an immortal soul. He can express himself
Speaker 2: in whatever vehicle at whatever time he wishes to so.
Speaker 2: And because he's multi dimensional, it's not a problem. It's
Speaker 2: not like he's stuck here and suffering from karma or
Speaker 2: the whatever torment. You know, he's he's always focused, some
Speaker 2: part of him always exists at this level and this
Speaker 2: level and this level. That's what a multi dimensional being
Speaker 2: is all about.
Speaker 1: Wow, very fascinating, and now I want to thank you
Speaker 1: again for joining us. Is there anything interesting you have
Speaker 1: upcoming that you'd like to tell us about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was on Coast to Coast again
Speaker 2: yesterday with George Nory. That was pretty interesting. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think we've been doing that for almost twelve years
Speaker 2: now and doing that show, so I was grateful. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's how I got started as a talk show host,
Speaker 2: was doing that show originally back in two thousand and six.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm actually enjoying hosting my own radio show
Speaker 2: on weekends on KGRA Friday and Saturday nights from ten
Speaker 2: to midnight Eastern. But I'm also working on my next book,
Speaker 2: which is about Malibu and not just my life growing
Speaker 2: up there, but the hidden history of the Onanaki, these
Speaker 2: fallen ones, some very interesting artifacts and other events that well,
Speaker 2: I think people will find it very interesting once I
Speaker 2: get that done.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll be looking very forward to that. Well, Robert,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. It was an awesome conversation
Speaker 1: and we'd love to have you back on again.
Speaker 3: And thank you.
Speaker 1: Awesome night, Robert.
Speaker 2: All right, you too, thank you bye bye for.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew,
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited about tonight's show. Tonight, my guest
Speaker 1: is Cliff High and if you aren't familiar, he's a
Speaker 1: computer scientist linguistic. He's a founder of the predictive linguistics field,
Speaker 1: which is a powerful process that analyzes vast amounts of
Speaker 1: data that has actually predicted future events, but Cliff also
Speaker 1: has a vast knowledge of things esoteric, or, as he
Speaker 1: calls it, all things woo. How you doing tonight, Cliff.
Speaker 3: Good and fine? How about yourself?
Speaker 1: I'm very good, and I want to thank you again
Speaker 1: for joining us. And I thought we'd start out with, well,
Speaker 1: a little bit about your background as it pertains to
Speaker 1: the esoteric, and you know, kind of what opened your
Speaker 1: eyes to the world behind our world and the things
Speaker 1: that they don't teach us in our history books.
Speaker 3: I the crap beat out of me when I was
Speaker 3: a kid. I kid you not. I had we had
Speaker 3: just gotten into I was in military brat. My father
Speaker 3: had been stationed in Germany as part of the occupation forces,
Speaker 3: and they they allowed, the military allowed him to bring
Speaker 3: over family. And I had barely arrived in southern Germany
Speaker 3: and maybe two days i'd been there, was out walking
Speaker 3: in the woods, met another military brat, and for whatever
Speaker 3: reason at the time we were both kids, we got
Speaker 3: into a fight and I was just thoroughly pummeled. I
Speaker 3: mean like the guy had reached, he had reached. There
Speaker 3: was nothing I could do right, And so my father decided, well,
Speaker 3: this wasn't good if you got to get into fights,
Speaker 3: you should learn how to do it. So he took
Speaker 3: me to this guy who taught judo on base to
Speaker 3: soldiers but also did rent at judo dojo after hours,
Speaker 3: and he he said, well, you're too skinny for this, really,
Speaker 3: so you got to put on some weight. So go
Speaker 3: and do yoga. Eat a lot, do a lot of yoga.
Speaker 3: And well, I had to start looking into yoga because
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the hell it was. I was
Speaker 3: like ten years old. Bear in mind, this is back
Speaker 3: in the sixties, before yoga had had hit the airwave,
Speaker 3: so to speak. And so I looked into that and
Speaker 3: I did kano jiu jitsu. It was actually called This
Speaker 3: was in the early days before it was seriously named
Speaker 3: judo everywhere, and before it went into like the Olympics.
Speaker 3: That was sort of the split them in the early sixties.
Speaker 3: In any event, though, because I started looking into that,
Speaker 3: one thing led to another, and I started practicing yoga
Speaker 3: at age eleven, along with doing martial arts. And it's
Speaker 3: a you know, sort of a mind opening situation.
Speaker 1: Very good, very interesting. Now based on that, would you
Speaker 1: say that we live in a universe where there are
Speaker 1: other dimensions?
Speaker 3: No? No, okay, Now see there's the thing we have
Speaker 3: to I wouldn't say that because we would have to
Speaker 3: first define what we meant by dimensions, if, for instance,
Speaker 3: one was to say to ask it another way, Are
Speaker 3: there areas in life that we cannot perceive? Oh? Certainly,
Speaker 3: no question. Now do we define X ray band as
Speaker 3: a dimension? Do we define ultraviolet as a dimension? Do
Speaker 3: we define microwaves in all of their plethora as a dimension?
Speaker 3: If so, then okay, I would have to agree that
Speaker 3: there are other dimensions. But then, if you're talking about
Speaker 3: dimensions in the sense that we could somehow open up
Speaker 3: a portal and slip corporeally through that portal and still
Speaker 3: be corporeally available to ourselves on the other side of
Speaker 3: that portal in some other dimension.
Speaker 1: No, so what are your thoughts on you know, people
Speaker 1: saying that they can ash fu travel two different dimensions
Speaker 1: and speak with different entities.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a that's a different understanding of what's or
Speaker 3: that's a representation that is not exact in the language
Speaker 3: as to what they're actually experiencing. Astral travel. Sure, no
Speaker 3: problem with that, done it myself, well aware of how
Speaker 3: that works. Other dimensions in the sense of consciousness, yes,
Speaker 3: those would exist, Okay, but then it gets really muddy,
Speaker 3: the reason being that humans are so in exact their
Speaker 3: own minds that mostly, which would be to say, nine
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety nine percent of the time out of
Speaker 3: a thousand, I mean, you know, just seriously, my new
Speaker 3: fraction of the time we have our minds under control.
Speaker 3: The rest of the time we could not tell the
Speaker 3: difference between our imagination and dimension. So most people, if
Speaker 3: they were to hear me say that, well, there are
Speaker 3: other dimensions in astral travel, then they would have experiences
Speaker 3: that they would assume meant they were going into another dimension. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're talking about a consciousness perception that's not imagination,
Speaker 3: and we wanted to define that as another imagination, then
Speaker 3: I would or as another dimension. Then I would say,
Speaker 3: there is indeed such a thing. However, in order to
Speaker 3: arrive there, one must pass through what we could label
Speaker 3: the dissolution barrier. And on the other side of that
Speaker 3: dissolution barrier is a place that I would refer to
Speaker 3: as hyper space. I wouldn't call it a dimension per se,
Speaker 3: but truly in a sense of what we're talking about now,
Speaker 3: about a place that our consciousness could go to and
Speaker 3: wouldn't have to We wouldn't be corporeal, but your consciousness
Speaker 3: could certainly go there. This hyper space could besidered in
Speaker 3: all respects a dimension in the way that we think
Speaker 3: of it from TV.
Speaker 1: So it would be possible to theoretically meet the consciousness
Speaker 1: of another being in that space.
Speaker 3: It's possible, and I've done that with the assistance of
Speaker 3: psychedelic drugs. I've done it with the assistance of years
Speaker 3: of psychedelic drugs and then a hiatus and then years
Speaker 3: of meditation. So I've done it under two sets of circumstances.
Speaker 3: I know that people such as my brother, who was
Speaker 3: a full fledged schizophrenic, he's done it because of the
Speaker 3: adrenochrome that floods your system and throws your mind out
Speaker 3: of whack when you're a schizophrenic, right, and I know
Speaker 3: of a couple of other mental conditions that also caused
Speaker 3: this to occur. And so in that sense, I would
Speaker 3: say that that's part of our reality, and anybody that's
Speaker 3: ever experienced that, especially through things like DMT or psilocybin,
Speaker 3: would with me when I say it is more real
Speaker 3: than real. It's much more real to you, much more
Speaker 3: real and feeling than the material world that you and
Speaker 3: I are occupying and talking through right at the moment.
Speaker 3: It's really spooky when you go through it. Now, in
Speaker 3: my experience, to get to hyperspace requires that the person
Speaker 3: go through a dissolution phase. By that, I mean an
Speaker 3: actual what psychiatrists might describe as an ego death or
Speaker 3: an ego dissolution. But it feels like when you're going
Speaker 3: through it, that your body is dissolving into atoms. Okay,
Speaker 3: and then then you pop out on the other side
Speaker 3: in hyperspace.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. Now, let's talk a little bit about the
Speaker 1: entities you said that you came into contact with. Could
Speaker 1: you maybe describe that experience a little bit or those experiences.
Speaker 3: Bear in mind it took place over a number of years, okay,
Speaker 3: so there were a number of experiences. There were discrete
Speaker 3: entities that were reoccurrent and persistent over the years, and
Speaker 3: then there are entities that may have been there reoccurrent
Speaker 3: every time I went there, but you couldn't tell because
Speaker 3: they represented themselves just as spheres. Okay, in hyper space,
Speaker 3: you don't have a body, your consciousness is there. The
Speaker 3: native most efficient shape for consciousness and universe is a sphere.
Speaker 3: And you know, in all all different ways in terms
Speaker 3: of energy specifically, though, it's easiest to contain your consciousness
Speaker 3: and a sphere and not have to worry about the
Speaker 3: little fiddlely bits that stick out right. This is true
Speaker 3: in hyperspace, So it costs you an energy penalty in
Speaker 3: hyperspace to have a body other than a sphere. So
Speaker 3: hyperspace and my experience of it, was littered with sphere
Speaker 3: spheroids that were the housing of various different consciousness, and
Speaker 3: it was not possible for me to really see much
Speaker 3: in the way of a difference from one sphere to another,
Speaker 3: excepting there were some whose behavior was so striking as
Speaker 3: to let you know that they were not so you
Speaker 3: could pick them out of the crowd, so to speak.
Speaker 3: So bear in mind that this is a psychedelic experience,
Speaker 3: and it is filled. It's a place that is filled
Speaker 3: with no boundaries, so there's no sense of a boundary
Speaker 3: between your body and the hyper space at all, and
Speaker 3: yet it is filled with lifesound action, dynamic activity, seemingly
Speaker 3: random dynamic activity, and individual consciousnesses within there that are
Speaker 3: able to be stable within that environment, and some of
Speaker 3: them are friendly, so to speak, and they'll interact with you.
Speaker 3: Some of them are quite quite nice guys and very friendly,
Speaker 3: but very rarely. And then a lot of them are
Speaker 3: just basically indifferent to you or having such a terrible
Speaker 3: time on their own they don't want to be hassled.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot, a lot that meet that latter criteria.
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of beings or a lot
Speaker 3: of consciousness houses like we are, somehow find themselves in
Speaker 3: other worlds, other planets, and they get into a psychedelic
Speaker 3: experience and they don't know what they're handling and don't
Speaker 3: know how to handle it, and so they pop in
Speaker 3: and they're just not able to deal with anything other
Speaker 3: than themselves in that gigantic space of vast quantities of chaos.
Speaker 1: Now, did you ever encounter anything that resembled more of
Speaker 1: a being you could describe?
Speaker 3: Sure? Sure, Sure, I've had I've had contacts with a
Speaker 3: guy that was basically a hominid, had a much flatter
Speaker 3: face and a flat kind of a a forehead and
Speaker 3: in a flat sort of a flat top to his forehead.
Speaker 3: And this this being had two eyes and nose, uh
Speaker 3: smallish kind of ears, regular mouth, regular teeth, had very
Speaker 3: fine and uh, transparent body hair, just more or less
Speaker 3: like a like a human male. But this being had
Speaker 3: the unique characteristic of showing its emotions in like a
Speaker 3: little aura layer that ran across the top of its skin,
Speaker 3: over its entire body. This being was psychic. It was
Speaker 3: it was very It was a male I was talking to.
Speaker 3: We had no way of establishing a name with him,
Speaker 3: and he he and I met several times over the
Speaker 3: course of perhaps two and a half years, and we
Speaker 3: we traded information and ideas. He was very interesting because
Speaker 3: of the nature of his expression in life, where his
Speaker 3: emotions came out in this haze over his skin, as
Speaker 3: did all the members of his species. And so some
Speaker 3: of the things you learn is that he's telepathic, and
Speaker 3: then he's also telepathic at an emotional level because he's
Speaker 3: literally broadcasting his emotions out throughout his skin continuously, you know,
Speaker 3: millisecond by millisecond, And so to someone else of his species,
Speaker 3: they can read this because they've felt those same emotions
Speaker 3: and complexes and what he called chords, like a musical
Speaker 3: chord of emotions before. And so there's no need for
Speaker 3: words in many cases if you're attempting to express an emotion.
Speaker 3: So They have poetry without words, so really interesting concept
Speaker 3: when you drill down on that. Right, there's no words
Speaker 3: in their poetry, but as far as we would consider it,
Speaker 3: it's exquisitely evocative poetry. And they have big contests, and
Speaker 3: it's a big, giant national sort of or global sort
Speaker 3: of a thing for their species. He's very intelligent, he's
Speaker 3: very was very uh. I haven't seen him in I
Speaker 3: don't know, forty plus years. He's not a local boy.
Speaker 3: We were able to establish that from our relationship. He's
Speaker 3: on the other side of the Milky Way galaxy from us,
Speaker 3: and that the hyper space that we entered into just
Speaker 3: simply allowed the communication between us, but in no way
Speaker 3: could establish a physical connection. It wasn't like we were,
Speaker 3: you know, transporting ourselves there. But he was the one
Speaker 3: who taught me to project my body out in the hyperspace.
Speaker 3: And he was very forthcoming with information, but he wanted
Speaker 3: quid pro quo. And his problem, which I was able
Speaker 3: to help him out with, was that there the environmental
Speaker 3: conditions on his world were changing, and they had issues
Speaker 3: relative to how they built things and these environmental changes,
Speaker 3: and insofar as I remember how it was described to me,
Speaker 3: they were having like irradiation issues from local suns okay
Speaker 3: that caused various different kinds of atmospheric effects, and it
Speaker 3: had never in their entire culture because and it's probably
Speaker 3: because they projected their feelings out over their skin and there,
Speaker 3: and they had fashion, and they had clothing, but their
Speaker 3: skin was hardened to the environment that they lived in,
Speaker 3: so they didn't need it to stay warm or anything, right,
Speaker 3: they didn't need clothing for that purpose. And so for
Speaker 3: them fashion was something else entirely, more like what we
Speaker 3: might think of as jewelry, as an accessory, you know.
Speaker 3: But in any event, they never never dawned on them
Speaker 3: to develop surface coatings. And so so like I was
Speaker 3: talking to him, and he and I had done this exchange,
Speaker 3: and so I'd thought about his problem over the course
Speaker 3: of several weeks. Next time I went on one of
Speaker 3: these journeys, I met him again and said, Ah, here's
Speaker 3: your solution that exists, this possibility of taking various different
Speaker 3: kinds of chemicals. And I had gone to the local
Speaker 3: state library in Olympia and looked up various different ways
Speaker 3: of making paint, and so had in my head how
Speaker 3: various things like silica and oils, oils being composed of
Speaker 3: petrochemicals that or you know, could be created from animals
Speaker 3: or plants, et cetera. Because I didn't know what kind
Speaker 3: of conditions they had on their home world, right in
Speaker 3: his home planet. And so but it basically told him
Speaker 3: the idea is to provide a sacrifice surface coating, and
Speaker 3: then to make that sacrifice surface coating last a little while.
Speaker 3: You make it better and better and better, and you
Speaker 3: put enough effort into it that it's not a sacrifice
Speaker 3: every year to the irradiation, the solar irradiation, but last
Speaker 3: ten or twenty years, that sort of thing. And so
Speaker 3: they it was like, oh, he was just fantastically thrilled
Speaker 3: with this idea.
Speaker 1: Wow. Cool. Yeah, Now I understand you had a much
Speaker 1: different for an experience with a different type of being,
Speaker 1: an insectoid being two.
Speaker 3: Of them those critters, in so far as I was
Speaker 3: able to tell and see there, you've got to be careful, right,
Speaker 3: because there's no way I could ascertain whether meeting of
Speaker 3: being over the course of many different excursions, over many
Speaker 3: different years, if it was the same guy presenting himself
Speaker 3: in two different forms or not. So I had an
Speaker 3: encounter with an old insect who was really pissed at
Speaker 3: me for being there, And then later on I had
Speaker 3: an encounter with a younger insect might have been the
Speaker 3: same one. It might have gone through some kind of
Speaker 3: metamorphoses or time maybe goofy in hyperspace. So I may
Speaker 3: have met it when it was very young and then
Speaker 3: met it when it was very old. If you met
Speaker 3: that part of him first, I have no way of knowing.
Speaker 3: I've always assumed it was two separate beings and that
Speaker 3: they were separated by many generations of bugdom, and they were.
Speaker 3: They were very interesting things, quite quite the strange mind.
Speaker 3: So the guy with the emotions on his skin, you know,
Speaker 3: whatever we want to call him, he's he's basically a
Speaker 3: human and and has emotions and has a VGUS nervous system,
Speaker 3: and you know, would get a stomach ache, you know,
Speaker 3: could have those kind of ills that these sorts of things,
Speaker 3: and so he's basically a human. The bugs had no
Speaker 3: emotional life, so or or another way. Actually, I don't
Speaker 3: really want to put it that way. A better way
Speaker 3: to think of it is that they have an emotional
Speaker 3: life that consists of basically one note, just a single
Speaker 3: note continuously whereas ours is multifaceted, multi corded, multi dimensional
Speaker 3: and multi multi rhythmic. They just have one and so.
Speaker 3: And the reason I say that that they actually have
Speaker 3: that one is because there's got to be something that
Speaker 3: changes them from satisfied to dissatisfied. And and so something
Speaker 3: in there causes them, prompts them to act as the
Speaker 3: environment around them changes, and something triggers them into a
Speaker 3: sense of being dissatisfied, and then they react to that.
Speaker 3: But other than that, they really don't have an emotion.
Speaker 3: And you get that from the mind. Now, these are
Speaker 3: very powerful mental beings, okay, the insects. So the guy
Speaker 3: with the emotions on his over him, I could always
Speaker 3: see a faint haze as he was projecting his emotions,
Speaker 3: just like his real body back on his home world.
Speaker 3: But the detail that he was projecting of his face
Speaker 3: and his body would fade in and out as we
Speaker 3: were both distracted by what was going on, and the
Speaker 3: energy and his in his mind to maintain that was
Speaker 3: shifted to various different focuses. Not the case with the bugs.
Speaker 3: They were always like, you know, basically their solid, you know,
Speaker 3: no fuzz to them at all. And so the level
Speaker 3: of the mind it took to project at that level.
Speaker 3: You could you could feel the power when you encountered
Speaker 3: them in hyperspace. And it's not like there's rooms or
Speaker 3: divisions there, but it is as though you could if
Speaker 3: you wanted to put your focus over this way and
Speaker 3: just simply ignore anything over here and not have to
Speaker 3: deal with energy going in your mind, section off this
Speaker 3: area into like focus rooms, so to speak, and not
Speaker 3: have to deal with the bugs, if you wanted. What
Speaker 3: really irritated this first older bug, and this is when
Speaker 3: I was still a sphere I didn't really know how
Speaker 3: to how to make a body at that point, was
Speaker 3: that that he pissed me off. And I got irritated,
Speaker 3: and so I said, no, I'm not going to leave
Speaker 3: because he you know, as soon as I popped into
Speaker 3: his focus room area, he he basically tried to use
Speaker 3: his mind. It pushed me out, and it like really
Speaker 3: pissed me off and I and I was I was
Speaker 3: very into Aikdo at the time, so mentally what I
Speaker 3: did was, even though I was a spear was I
Speaker 3: just sort of grabbed his energy and rolled with it
Speaker 3: right and just let it flow beside me. And I
Speaker 3: was still there and so so I when he got
Speaker 3: done with that, I told him, no, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to leave. He really irritated me, and I'm gonna stick
Speaker 3: you right here until I've gotten some irritation back out
Speaker 3: of you. And then he was he was really pissed
Speaker 3: at me after that, but he went about his business.
Speaker 3: It's because almost instantly he realized that there was a
Speaker 3: uh no net return of investment for energy trying to
Speaker 3: get me out, and he just went right back on
Speaker 3: his on his and it was some kind of weird
Speaker 3: laboratory he had going there, where he's monkying about with
Speaker 3: other bits of consciousness, and he went about his business
Speaker 3: as though I didn't matter anymore. So I was more
Speaker 3: of a minor annoyance in that sense than a spy
Speaker 3: or a real threat or anything. So it's kind of
Speaker 3: like I was sort of a mosquito in his world,
Speaker 3: and he'd sort of tried to swat at it, and
Speaker 3: then I'd flown off far enough and he wasn't willing
Speaker 3: to reach over there and pursue it. So quite the
Speaker 3: odd thing. Now, the younger one was different. He was
Speaker 3: per and I got the impression from the old guy
Speaker 3: that he was several thousand years old. Okay, you can
Speaker 3: sort of, you can leach, you can pull information out
Speaker 3: of other consciousness if it allows you. So some of
Speaker 3: the consciousness you encounter are really hardshell spheres, and all
Speaker 3: you get is whatever is observed in their behavior within
Speaker 3: that environment. You can't pull anything through, right. But if
Speaker 3: some of the consciousness, this is just the way I'm
Speaker 3: describing it, is involved in thinking about something else, they're
Speaker 3: leaking out other bits of information that you can pull
Speaker 3: out and tease out of that mass. And it's a
Speaker 3: weird process. It's hard to put into words, but like
Speaker 3: I say, I got the impression the guy was, you know,
Speaker 3: several thousand years old, and was like maybe a senior
Speaker 3: research kind of a guy. They have no gender, so
Speaker 3: that was really weird. It's not like I think of
Speaker 3: them as male because they're they're ruthless and emotionally empty
Speaker 3: in their cruelty, so they're cruel, but I don't think
Speaker 3: they mean to be cruel per se, right, that it
Speaker 3: just never would occur to them that they were being cruel,
Speaker 3: or that our emotions mattered any in any way, shape
Speaker 3: or form. Like I say, the young guy was willing
Speaker 3: to trade. By the time I met him, I figured
Speaker 3: out how hyperspace worked a little bit and knew it
Speaker 3: was a quid pro quo, a trade system. So, like
Speaker 3: the guy with the emotions, I traded him the idea
Speaker 3: of surface coatings, and he told me all about emotions
Speaker 3: and how emotions are transmitted by the vagus nerve, how
Speaker 3: you can go emotions forward or backward in time, backward
Speaker 3: not so much, but forward in time, and all these
Speaker 3: different technologies of emotions that I had never ever ever
Speaker 3: considered prior to running into him, And so he was
Speaker 3: quite happy to just spill all of that for me
Speaker 3: because of this, you know, incredible, you know, Nobel prize
Speaker 3: level on his planet idea of paint.
Speaker 1: Right now, the the manted beings, you would actually describe
Speaker 1: them as looking like a praying mantis, right.
Speaker 3: Nah, you get the impression of a mantis, okay, But
Speaker 3: but no, their body they're not swooped the way a
Speaker 3: mantis is. They don't ride on their back haunches the
Speaker 3: way a mantis does. They don't really have the head
Speaker 3: structure completely of a mantis. They do at a very
Speaker 3: base level, okay, but they don't have the the protruding
Speaker 3: sensing antenna on top. It is true that their arms
Speaker 3: are straight out in front of them. They have no
Speaker 3: shoulder per se. They've only got a range of motion
Speaker 3: that's that's basically up and down or or back and forth.
Speaker 3: But there, But you call them a manta and lieu
Speaker 3: of something else. But but you could just as easily
Speaker 3: call a ant Would you.
Speaker 1: Say that we have had contact with extraterrestrials throughout our history, sure,
Speaker 1: And would you say there's been some sort of maybe
Speaker 1: hand in our engineering.
Speaker 3: No, very definitely there. We are not natural beings, and
Speaker 3: there's something far more about that than most people realize,
Speaker 3: and that is that eighty five percent of all of
Speaker 3: the biota on this planet that's not a vegetable and
Speaker 3: not a fungus is an invertebrate. So eighty five percent
Speaker 3: of all animals on this planet have no spine, and
Speaker 3: they've been quite happily developing and so on. Fifteen percent
Speaker 3: of the life on the planet does have spines. And
Speaker 3: I think it's there that we begin to examine where
Speaker 3: engineering took place, and then you can sub set on
Speaker 3: how developed of a vegas nerve system we actually have
Speaker 3: in whatever our test subject is. So if you're looking
Speaker 3: at reptiles, they have a very very very very very
Speaker 3: simple vegas nervous system that in no way alters how
Speaker 3: they do things. Okay, so a reptile will simply respond
Speaker 3: to whatever the environment is is pushing at them and
Speaker 3: their preconceived approach to you know, their instinct in terms
Speaker 3: of a response fight, flight, or freeze. And that's why
Speaker 3: we call that particular part of our brain the reptilian
Speaker 3: part of the brain, right is because it has encoded
Speaker 3: in it these three three modes of action. But we
Speaker 3: have something that the reptiles don't. We have something that
Speaker 3: the cetaceans, the all of the dolphins and whales, all
Speaker 3: of those guys do. That is a vegas nervous system. Okay,
Speaker 3: birds have a very minimal, very very very minimal vegas
Speaker 3: nervous system, more advanced than a reptile, but hardly dogs
Speaker 3: and cats, well dogs more than cats, have a very
Speaker 3: advanced vegas nervous system. Same thing is true of you know,
Speaker 3: the large predators, wolves and this sort of thing, and bears.
Speaker 3: A lot of the herbivores have a very advanced vegas
Speaker 3: nervous but it's very simplified. It's not what we would
Speaker 3: call polydimensional, Okay, it's very narrowly attached in terms of
Speaker 3: where it goes to the spine, and where it goes
Speaker 3: through the internal organs, and how it connects into the
Speaker 3: head with us. The vegas nervous system connects to all
Speaker 3: of our senses, okay, so your eyes, your ears, your nose,
Speaker 3: and your mouth. So the vegus nervous system is connected
Speaker 3: to that. It's connected to your brain, and it's connected
Speaker 3: to all the glands in your head. All of the
Speaker 3: pituitary gland, the thymus, the thyroid, the pineal gland, all
Speaker 3: of these are connected to the vegas nervous system. It
Speaker 3: goes down around on the outside of your spine. It's
Speaker 3: not part of your central nervous system. And then it
Speaker 3: connects every organ in the body with the exception of
Speaker 3: the adrenal complex, and it is rooted in the pancreas.
Speaker 3: So the vegus nervous system is the way in which
Speaker 3: humans have telepathy. So it's very unlike the kind of
Speaker 3: telepathy that the the emotional guy had or the kind
Speaker 3: of telepathy that the bugs have, because our kind of
Speaker 3: telepathy comes through our hormonal antenna, which is the vegus
Speaker 3: nervous system. Our nervous system. Our vegas nervous system is
Speaker 3: so complex that if you were to take it out
Speaker 3: of the human body and spread it out, you'd be
Speaker 3: able to cover several sheets of plywood with it. It's
Speaker 3: just vast and it acts as a conduit for hormones,
Speaker 3: and it takes serotonin from your gut, moves it up
Speaker 3: to your brain, takes adrenaline, moves it over here. It
Speaker 3: takes all these different hormones and moves those throughout your body.
Speaker 3: It is hormones that give us action. It's hormones that
Speaker 3: provide us with desire and feeling from which we get thought.
Speaker 3: And without those hormones, we don't have a motivating factor.
Speaker 3: And so it isn't we're entirely hormonal beings this way.
Speaker 3: And it is possible for one human to entrain their vegas,
Speaker 3: their state of their vegus nervous systemossible for us to
Speaker 3: train our vegus nervous system to those of another human
Speaker 3: in a very crude fashion. Okay, we don't yet have
Speaker 3: full control where we can turn our vegas nervous system
Speaker 3: into a particular state we might want, and then broadcast
Speaker 3: it out so that someone else could hook up with
Speaker 3: us and ride the wave. Okay, the guy that I
Speaker 3: met in hyperspace that had the shimmery emotions, their species
Speaker 3: can do that, Okay. They can decide how they want
Speaker 3: to feel and alter with their consciousness the hormonal balance
Speaker 3: within their system, which then ends up projecting just the
Speaker 3: image of the emotions in these multicolored bands and hues
Speaker 3: and shimmeriness across their skin exactly the way they want,
Speaker 3: very much like an artist would mix colors to get
Speaker 3: just the precise color that they would want the nuances.
Speaker 3: So this guy was like, that species is like elevated
Speaker 3: beyond us, maybe a million or so years relative to
Speaker 3: motions in the Vegas nervous system and everything. Right, we're
Speaker 3: really crude, but we have it within us to be
Speaker 3: able to do this eventually, and we have proof of
Speaker 3: this on the planet right now a couple of different ways.
Speaker 3: Sixty eight percent of all communication is visual. So beyond
Speaker 3: the words that you have this initial impression of dealing
Speaker 3: with someone, you get an initial impression on them that
Speaker 3: does not exist. I mean that it isn't dependent on
Speaker 3: anything they say. So this visual impression the sixty eight
Speaker 3: percent of the information that's communicated by all of that
Speaker 3: that grabs you is doing so at what we would
Speaker 3: say a visceral level, a gut level, the viscera, and
Speaker 3: that visceral level is really referring to the vegus nerve
Speaker 3: There's some people you just run into and it's like, no,
Speaker 3: I can't stand that son of a bitch and for
Speaker 3: whatever reason, you know, you don't even know the guy
Speaker 3: and you don't like him, and that's your vegas nervous
Speaker 3: system responding to his Now we take advantage of this
Speaker 3: and you can go and look it up. The New
Speaker 3: Zealanders and the Australians had this thing, and as did
Speaker 3: the Swedish and the Norwegians. Now they didn't the Northern
Speaker 3: States didn't call it the same, but in New Zealand
Speaker 3: it's called the hakka. And the hakka is this complex
Speaker 3: emotional entrainment process among a group of guys so that
Speaker 3: they're all in trained mentally and they're all reacting in
Speaker 3: the same level of high energy performance with very narrow
Speaker 3: levels of error because they've got all of their vagus
Speaker 3: nervous systems all in agreement. And so the hakka is
Speaker 3: from our outside viewpoint, a bunch of guys standing around,
Speaker 3: stopping their feet, making weird arm movements and yelling and
Speaker 3: making strange faces of each other. But if you look
Speaker 3: at the group as a whole, you find that what's
Speaker 3: actually going on is, as I'm stating and in trainment,
Speaker 3: a sort of vegas nervous system telepathy, a group consciousness
Speaker 3: that evolves from those people that are practicing this hakka.
Speaker 3: And there's rules to the hakka in terms of how
Speaker 3: the New Zealanders have it, but there's also rules in
Speaker 3: my sense of it as an entrainment device, how it
Speaker 3: needs to be, what you need to do in order
Speaker 3: to have it work. But it's very powerful and it
Speaker 3: goes along with the kia, the big voice in karate
Speaker 3: and judo and all of that kind of stuff, right,
Speaker 3: and the harmonizing or the projecting of your state out
Speaker 3: into the into the world as a whole. So yeah,
Speaker 3: so in that sense, we are telepathic beings, but we're
Speaker 3: just not telepathic the way most people would think. Where
Speaker 3: you know, I'm beaming over to you my hot dog.
Speaker 1: Order right now? Do you think that this are telepathic abilities?
Speaker 1: And all these abilities are intentionally suppressed from us in
Speaker 1: a way, you know, just made to seem like it's
Speaker 1: just woo woo, it's not possible intentionally that.
Speaker 3: Speaks to I know that that is the case that
Speaker 3: they are being suppressed. Okay, So I can agree that
Speaker 3: indeed that there is a level of suppression on there,
Speaker 3: But the idea of an intent would we'd have to
Speaker 3: say then that instantly brings up the issue of who
Speaker 3: and why, and I couldn't answer either of those, Okay.
Speaker 3: I know that people might culturally suppress this sort of thing,
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of different reasons why they would
Speaker 3: do it at various different levels. So if you look
Speaker 3: at some of the photos and videos of Biden, the politician, right,
Speaker 3: you get the distinct impression that this guy is a
Speaker 3: slathering pedophile and that he's always trying to touch all
Speaker 3: of these young kids, especially early pubescent females that are
Speaker 3: presented in public places near Now you also see that
Speaker 3: the other males around him in his party and other
Speaker 3: parties will do things to discipline him in front of
Speaker 3: the camera in very subtle ways. So they're aware of
Speaker 3: his activities, and they're not pointing fingers and calling them out,
Speaker 3: they're not decking the sun of a bitch. They're not
Speaker 3: having them arrested because they have a vested interest in
Speaker 3: his being in that position. And so they'll slap his
Speaker 3: hand down, they'll push his hand away from their grandkid,
Speaker 3: you know, they'll put their knee up against him in
Speaker 3: the in the background, that kind of thing, right, And
Speaker 3: so they have an inbuilt profit motive, so to speak,
Speaker 3: for keeping him there, and they're aware of the behavior
Speaker 3: and so on. But so is this part of some
Speaker 3: larger evil plot to maintain his presence or is it
Speaker 3: just a natural you know, I can't rock the boat
Speaker 3: because my power is dependent on their power kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Now, I'd like to kind of shift gears a little
Speaker 1: bit for the second half here. I'd like to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what's going on at CERN. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of disinformation. There's you know, talks of their opening portals,
Speaker 1: they're talking to beings in different dimensions, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: What is really going on at CERN and are there
Speaker 1: any implications that it could be dangerous for everyone?
Speaker 3: There's a lot of indications it's dangerous for everyone. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's really going on there, and we would
Speaker 3: have to ask the questions such as what's really going
Speaker 3: on there? And then what do they think they're doing? Okay,
Speaker 3: I could actually state right now that what's really going
Speaker 3: on there, insofar as we're able to determine, is that
Speaker 3: they're failing. Okay, whatever their goal is, they're failing at it.
Speaker 3: And now we're talking about the large Hadron Collider, the
Speaker 3: big spinning thing under the ground. Because if you say
Speaker 3: CERN SERN are the people that invented HTML and released
Speaker 3: it out on the Mason Internet nineteen ninety three or
Speaker 3: ninety two, and so CERN is a huge organization, much
Speaker 3: of it devoted to atomic stuff. Right but CERN in
Speaker 3: Europe with the Large Hydrant Collider, they're announced official idea
Speaker 3: of what they're attempting to achieve makes no sense. It
Speaker 3: makes sense only in a very narrowly defined region of
Speaker 3: physics that doesn't seem to have a whole lot of
Speaker 3: support in larger academia. So it's curious that this is
Speaker 3: the largest machine ever built by humans and it's pursuing
Speaker 3: this very narrow little band. Now, these guys could indeed
Speaker 3: figure that they're going to open up a portal to
Speaker 3: another dimension. They could figure they're going to create a
Speaker 3: black hole. They could have any number of ideas, most
Speaker 3: of which could never happen because their paradigm is goofy.
Speaker 3: So if, for instance, these same scientists are of the
Speaker 3: opinion that the Sun is a nuclear reactor of condensed
Speaker 3: hydrogen and they were basing their all of their paradigm
Speaker 3: of reality around that, then whatever it is they're doing
Speaker 3: at Cerne will never ever ever succeed because their their
Speaker 3: basic paradigm is flawed at a very deep level. Now
Speaker 3: we know that they're trying to crash and create sub
Speaker 3: atomic particles, all right, I hate using that term. All right,
Speaker 3: so but let's uh, they're they're taking these little tiny
Speaker 3: bits of shaved off parts of atoms and they're smashing
Speaker 3: them into each other, and they're creating clouds. These clouds
Speaker 3: are then analyzed by the computers. That's what the Large
Speaker 3: Hadron Collider does is it basically smacks these two particles
Speaker 3: in this little chamber that is is a camera. And
Speaker 3: when the two particles smack, the cameras recording this and
Speaker 3: it and these two particles create these fractional lines everywhere,
Speaker 3: these spectrally kind of lines, vast clouds, little little tiny
Speaker 3: lines going every which way, and they're doing this thing
Speaker 3: constantly smashing as many particles as they can continuously, and
Speaker 3: they're analyzing the resulting cloud photos for various specific parameters
Speaker 3: that they hope to see, and what they're actually attempting
Speaker 3: to do is to like further refine our under or
Speaker 3: what this would actually do is it would refurther refine
Speaker 3: our understanding of what an atom is, which gets us
Speaker 3: off into a real discussion here of like base electric
Speaker 3: universe theory, because within the electric universe, there is not
Speaker 3: a nuclear force. So when we actually take uranium and
Speaker 3: we smash that atom and we split that atom apart,
Speaker 3: it's not an electric it's not a nuclear force. That's
Speaker 3: released electlectrical because we're ripping the electrons loose from their
Speaker 3: shell and ripping the protons apart, and so we're separating
Speaker 3: that atom and releasing its electrical nature that binds all
Speaker 3: of those bits and pieces together. So if they actually,
Speaker 3: if the people ATCERN were aware of the electric universe,
Speaker 3: then what they're doing with the large Hadron Collider could
Speaker 3: be interpreted in an entirely different way than if they
Speaker 3: thought that we lived in a world where the sun
Speaker 3: is this nuclear reactor as opposed to an electric arc
Speaker 3: electric plasma arc, because in such an electric universe, then
Speaker 3: we know that the spectral lines, the mass spectral lines
Speaker 3: don't add up, never ever add up to the way
Speaker 3: that the periodic table of elements would have you believe.
Speaker 3: So the periodic table of elements, for instance, has gold
Speaker 3: having an atomic weight of seventy nine, meaning that there's
Speaker 3: this mass in there that's got seventy nine of these
Speaker 3: little critters in it, right, But if you were to
Speaker 3: smash gold inside the large hadron collider and smash that
Speaker 3: molecule open, you don't get seventy nine little particles flying
Speaker 3: off in various different directions. You might get ten thousand.
Speaker 3: So our understanding of atoms and what they are and
Speaker 3: how they work and this sort of thing is very
Speaker 3: much mistaken at the level taught in mainstream academia based
Speaker 3: on the periodic table of elements. So we might discover
Speaker 3: that aluminum, for instance, aluminum might have just one base state,
Speaker 3: which is, you know, this is stainless steel, but you know,
Speaker 3: just basically there might just be one base state. But
Speaker 3: if you were to treat aluminum differently, you might be
Speaker 3: able to get radioactive aluminum transparent aluminum like we saw
Speaker 3: on Star Trek, Aluminum that was soft and yet you
Speaker 3: couldn't put your finger through it, Aluminum that could be stretched.
Speaker 3: All of these things could be determined if you had
Speaker 3: a spectral line analysis profile of aluminum that included every
Speaker 3: possibility of how that cloud would develop when the aluminum
Speaker 3: particle was smashed up. That makes sense, right, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: so in that sense, CERN could be used for that.
Speaker 3: But we have to ask ourselves, where is the return
Speaker 3: on investment for taking such a huge proportion of the
Speaker 3: world's scientific dollars and putting them into the largest machine
Speaker 3: ever built, with the largest number of people outside of
Speaker 3: the Manhattan Project devoted to a single purpose behind a
Speaker 3: quote scientific machine. Are they going to be Are they
Speaker 3: intending to set themselves up as our materials developers as
Speaker 3: we go into the future. If so, well, then okay,
Speaker 3: we would get a return on investment. All of our
Speaker 3: tax dollars being siphoned off to support CERN pay for something,
Speaker 3: because we'd get newer types of aluminum, newer kinds of steel,
Speaker 3: newer kinds of plastic, if that's what they're doing. On
Speaker 3: the other hand, like I say, they may actually think
Speaker 3: that there's multiple dimensions, and that they're going to open
Speaker 3: up a portal into it and off we go.
Speaker 1: Now, there are some thoughts that they could be in
Speaker 1: some way affecting some of the Earth changes we're seeing. Now,
Speaker 1: do you think that's possible, Because I know we are
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of Earth changes. I cover that, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'd also like to get your thoughts on
Speaker 1: what we're actually going through right now with the uptick
Speaker 1: of all the volcanoes and earthquakes and strange weather.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all interrelated the Certain guys. Before we get
Speaker 3: into the weather, we have to acknowledge that the Certain
Speaker 3: Guys are generating more electricity than any other project on
Speaker 3: the planet, and they're doing it with underground where their
Speaker 3: apparatus is buried into quartzite under a big kunk of Europe,
Speaker 3: quartzite being a highly conductive material, and so they're putting
Speaker 3: more electricity into the planet than anybody's ever done before. However,
Speaker 3: I really don't think that they're actually participating in any
Speaker 3: of the stuff that's going on at a planet wide level.
Speaker 3: They may be able to with the amount of electricity
Speaker 3: they're putting in tip certain conditions in a certain day,
Speaker 3: but even acknowledging that these guys are vast electricity hogs
Speaker 3: and are shoving it into the ground, they're probably not
Speaker 3: putting as much energy into the planet as we get
Speaker 3: from Let's just pick Matagascar, the island of Madagascar from
Speaker 3: solar energy, Okay, just because we get so much energy
Speaker 3: from the Sun. So I'm personally of the opinion that
Speaker 3: all the stuff that's happening on the Earth relative to
Speaker 3: weather is one hundred percent related to the Sun. And
Speaker 3: I doubt the humans even if we took all of
Speaker 3: our cars, all of our electrical generation, everything we've ever
Speaker 3: done concern I don't think we even come up to
Speaker 3: a fraction of one percent. So, you know, especially with
Speaker 3: the sun now the sun is diming, we're going into
Speaker 3: a grand solar minimum. It'll be apparent in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: You won't be able to deny it. After the winner
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty. Probably, if you're smart, you're not denying
Speaker 3: it already that we're going into a grand solar minimum,
Speaker 3: a mini ice age. But by twenty twenty it'll be
Speaker 3: even the mainstream media will have frozen enough to be
Speaker 3: able to not deny this. Right, And we'll see two
Speaker 3: years by twenty twenty, where we've had just extremely cold summers,
Speaker 3: and as a result of the dimming of the Sun,
Speaker 3: it's reduction of its corona. It's a plasma over around
Speaker 3: a solid body. It's an electrical plasma, and it's dimming
Speaker 3: from five thousand kelvin down to three thousand kelvin, and
Speaker 3: that means that it's shrinking it's corona around the hard
Speaker 3: mass of the Sun. That means cosmic rays are coming
Speaker 3: around it much further, much denser, and striking more of
Speaker 3: the planets. When the cosmic rays strike Earth, we get volcanoes,
Speaker 3: we get earthquakes because of the huge amount of energy
Speaker 3: that they're imparting way into the middle of our planet
Speaker 3: in our plasma core that is acting as an absorbing
Speaker 3: sponge for these cosmic rays. Now we're sort of the
Speaker 3: reverse of the Sun. So the Sun has a giant
Speaker 3: plasma that has provided all the light and the heat
Speaker 3: and so forth for the Solar system, and it's around
Speaker 3: a solid metal core. On Earth, we have a solid
Speaker 3: crust and a mantle and everything on top of that
Speaker 3: around a plasma core. And so in that sense, we're
Speaker 3: the reverse, and we have these electrical interchanges with the
Speaker 3: Sun very predictably. So no, it's very clear as to
Speaker 3: why hurricanes come at a certain time of the year
Speaker 3: and never any other time of the year. That's because
Speaker 3: at that particular time, which usually begins in August, we
Speaker 3: have this thing called the return current sheet of all
Speaker 3: of this returning electricity that goes from the Earth back
Speaker 3: to the Sun. Whenever the return current sheet starts up,
Speaker 3: electricity rises up out of that part of the Atlantic.
Speaker 3: The storms form because the electricity can't ground out and
Speaker 3: it's heading on its way out to the Sun and
Speaker 3: it brings down oppso polarity electricity that wants to ground
Speaker 3: out comes down in a circular fashion, and we get hurricanes.
Speaker 3: So hurricanes are entirely electrical. The only reason that the
Speaker 3: water is warm is that they happen to happen in August.
Speaker 3: So but they're not happening because the water is warm.
Speaker 3: It's a correlation, not a causation, and so the warm
Speaker 3: water is meaningless relative to the size of the storms
Speaker 3: or any of that. Many of the ideas that we
Speaker 3: have as humans are really kind of silly and are off.
Speaker 3: But if we understood a lot more of this, well
Speaker 3: then we might even be able to do. What the
Speaker 3: hell that they think they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Sir, Well, what do you see happening in the next
Speaker 1: couple of years. You said that we're going to go
Speaker 1: into an ice age. Can you give us a little
Speaker 1: bit about how that might occur?
Speaker 3: Well, it's already occurring, okay. So as the Sun shrinks,
Speaker 3: not only do we get more cosmic rays that come around,
Speaker 3: which striped parts of our atmosphere off, making us more
Speaker 3: vulnerable to more cosmic rays. But there's also this activity
Speaker 3: called extreme ultraviolet. So as the Sun's corona shrinks, part
Speaker 3: of the spectra within that corona intensifies, and we get
Speaker 3: this stuff called EUV. It started getting really serious. In
Speaker 3: about ninety six or ninety seven, we had it. Actually,
Speaker 3: we had this new type of UV ultraviolet rays. We
Speaker 3: had this new type of light at a new frequency
Speaker 3: level touching the actual surface of the ground in two
Speaker 3: thousand and two. As far as we knew, it had
Speaker 3: never come down that far before. It was always bound
Speaker 3: off of the atmosphere. But in two thousand and two,
Speaker 3: it was so intense it burst down and actually touched
Speaker 3: the planet. Now it's happening all the time, so we
Speaker 3: have UV A, B, and C, which is this band
Speaker 3: in the ultraviolet spectrum. Now, as we go further forward,
Speaker 3: we'll probably get a UV D. Bear in mind that
Speaker 3: as we get into the increasing letters, we're getting much
Speaker 3: more intense frequencies, very much more amplitude and very high
Speaker 3: frequency ultraviolet rays which bring in vast quantities of energy.
Speaker 3: Causes a lot of evaporation out of the water. So
Speaker 3: starting in two thousand and two, I was projecting we
Speaker 3: were going to have lakes in the sky, rivers in
Speaker 3: the sky that would create this in these incredible deluges
Speaker 3: in a very short period of time. The reason that
Speaker 3: they were occurring turns out to be the UVC. Now
Speaker 3: we're going to get a lot more of them. A
Speaker 3: lot more water is going to go up into the sky.
Speaker 3: It's going to come over to areas and fall down.
Speaker 3: Lot of it'll come down as snow, and it'll stay
Speaker 3: as snow. Because of the generalized dampening of the sun
Speaker 3: in the diminuation of our temperatures, even at a small level,
Speaker 3: we'll keep a lot more snow around. Therefore, that snow
Speaker 3: will tend to build up. We'll get new glaciation, and
Speaker 3: Bob's your uncle were in an ice age. Now at
Speaker 3: this point, the Russian astrophysicist Katerina Zarkova, I think her
Speaker 3: name is Katerina but Zarkova for sure, she has got
Speaker 3: a projection that has been a four component deduction of
Speaker 3: observe from observed behavior of the Sun. They've been able
Speaker 3: to deduce four particular components in a complex equation that
Speaker 3: produces a three dimensional graph of the temperature as it
Speaker 3: relates to Earth based on the Sun's activity. So she's
Speaker 3: able to project that we're going to get the first
Speaker 3: year of risky vegetation light. Okay, So in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: eight will be the first year of four or five
Speaker 3: years in which we may not get enough light on
Speaker 3: the planet to grow even a fraction of the vegetation
Speaker 3: that we're growing now. So that'll be the start of
Speaker 3: the famine period, if that is going to be a
Speaker 3: determining factor in the famine. But we're going to have
Speaker 3: extremely cold winters and much cooler summers, so it'll be
Speaker 3: much cooler summers for the southern hemisphere and more or
Speaker 3: less their normal winter, and then for the northern hemisphere.
Speaker 3: While while the southern hemisphere is having a much cooler summer.
Speaker 3: We're going to have brutal, terrible winters, and then as
Speaker 3: we go into our summer, we'll find that our summer
Speaker 3: is just like blaw It's just it's very short. It
Speaker 3: may be briefly intense, but in that intensity of summer,
Speaker 3: we won't reach anywhere near the record levels that we've
Speaker 3: seen in the past. So they've been lying to us
Speaker 3: off of the National Climate Assessment here in the United States.
Speaker 3: You can tell they're lying to us because their results
Speaker 3: only go back to nineteen sixty. Okay, nineteen fifty seven
Speaker 3: and nineteen fifty eight was the peak and the local
Speaker 3: or in the recent warming trend. But prior to that,
Speaker 3: the thirties and the forties and the fifties were a
Speaker 3: lot warmer than it was in the sixties and the seventies.
Speaker 3: And now so we're actually going down in this gradual cooling,
Speaker 3: going into this many ice age, and they're trying to
Speaker 3: convince us that global warming exists by cherry picking data.
Speaker 3: Why again, why they're trying to convince us of the
Speaker 3: exact opposite of what our eyes are seeing and we're experiencing.
Speaker 3: I don't know why the governments and all of these
Speaker 3: people that are in the mega corporations and so on
Speaker 3: are trying to have vast numbers of humans freeze to
Speaker 3: death and not prepare. I don't know, why are we
Speaker 3: wasting our money concern when we should be trying to
Speaker 3: figure out how to grow food through a minimum and
Speaker 3: a grand solar minia. You know, I have no idea,
Speaker 3: but it'll be as bad as the Mander minimum. In
Speaker 3: the I think they called it the Dalton minimum. Okay.
Speaker 3: Now bear in mind it was during these periods of
Speaker 3: time in the sixteen hundreds in the eleven hundreds, when
Speaker 3: we had these previous solar minimums, that much of the
Speaker 3: chaos of our planet existed. You know, Rome falls in
Speaker 3: their time. Rome fell in a solar minimum, and because
Speaker 3: resources get constrained, Jengas Khan and the Mongolians moved out
Speaker 3: of their area because the snowpack and everything was destroying
Speaker 3: their ability to graze. So vast quantities of changes happen here.
Speaker 3: Throughout these these periods. The whole German and Central European
Speaker 3: society shifted off of grains and started living off of
Speaker 3: root vegetables and cuciferous vegetables like cabbage and so on.
Speaker 3: As a result of the solar minimum because you couldn't
Speaker 3: grow grains because your summer was too short. So all
Speaker 3: different kinds of social and species affecting changes take place
Speaker 3: in these in these minimums, and we're starting one in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, absolutely no doubt. If you look at Zarkova's
Speaker 3: numbers in the model, you know, you could probably pick
Speaker 3: out which month we're going to have the exceptional weather
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Now, how long will this period last? And you know,
Speaker 1: kind of I guess what could people do to prepare
Speaker 1: and how bad will this get for people?
Speaker 3: Well, it'll be very bad for some people and not
Speaker 3: so bad for other people. I mean, we can just
Speaker 3: make assumptions. Right, Those people that are in denial and
Speaker 3: won't do anything will probably run up against a wall
Speaker 3: of having to try and maintain themselves based on government handouts,
Speaker 3: which won't be good because the government's going to lose
Speaker 3: more and more ability to control resources at all different
Speaker 3: kinds of level, in all different governments. It just won't
Speaker 3: make any difference. It's going to last from well, we'll
Speaker 3: go from twenty twenty into probably twenty sixty one before
Speaker 3: there's enough of a letup that will see a reflourishing
Speaker 3: of a social order, but it'll still be rather cold
Speaker 3: from twenty sixty one to up until twenty twenty two hundred,
Speaker 3: so about approximately one hundred and eighty years total. Well,
Speaker 3: it'll be affecting the weather, but from twenty sixty one
Speaker 3: it'll be a gradual warming up. We'll have seen most
Speaker 3: of the really nasty situations descend on us by twenty
Speaker 3: sixty one, and our climate should at that point be
Speaker 3: relatively stable, gradually warming again for the next one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty years after that. Now, in terms of how
Speaker 3: we're going to prepare food, energy, other resources like medicines, clothing,
Speaker 3: et cetera, are going to be We're gonna have to
Speaker 3: look at it very rationally, I think, and as a
Speaker 3: human I'm gonna have to say, can I count on
Speaker 3: getting you know, goose down coats from southern China? Well
Speaker 3: maybe not, you know, for whatever reasons political, geopolitical, economic,
Speaker 3: or resource constraints in the sense of you know, the
Speaker 3: snow clamping down and populations being shifted and so on.
Speaker 3: It won't be that. There'll be a lot of formation
Speaker 3: of glaciers and you'll have to run away from the
Speaker 3: glacier and you know that kind of thing. It won't
Speaker 3: be that sort of a mini ice age. There will
Speaker 3: be new glaciers and they will affect populations, but not
Speaker 3: the way that the large ice ages and about twelve
Speaker 3: thousand years ago affected things. So for us, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be much more like not able to graze beef or
Speaker 3: sheep or that sort of thing in North America in say,
Speaker 3: from twenty thirty onward, And it might be you know,
Speaker 3: a decade or more before we're actually able to raise
Speaker 3: enough grain or grass to be able to go back
Speaker 3: to being running herds. I mean that's a real probability,
Speaker 3: not a possibility. I mean there's actually some level of
Speaker 3: projection you can make as to statistically how likely that
Speaker 3: is to occur, because we saw it happen repeatedly in
Speaker 3: the last solar minimums, and we know from records here
Speaker 3: in North America that at the same time that the
Speaker 3: Dalton Minimum was forcing the populations of Central Europe to
Speaker 3: change over from grains, we had a very large die
Speaker 3: off of herds here in the US that were grass dependent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and is very concerning that people aren't being told
Speaker 1: about what's going to happen and you know, not really
Speaker 1: being given a chance to prepare for this with that
Speaker 1: if it's going to cause even more problems as of
Speaker 1: you know, just the lack of people knowing probably add
Speaker 1: to the amount of loss of life.
Speaker 3: And sure, sure the butt heead factor right, If you
Speaker 3: live in a town full of buttheads and there's something
Speaker 3: that triggers all the butt heads into rioting, then you
Speaker 3: could get hurt simply because they're butt heads and they
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on, so they might be, you know,
Speaker 3: set off by anything, and it's their ignorance, their paradigm
Speaker 3: that's setting them off. And yet there's still a danger
Speaker 3: to you, and there's very little you can do about
Speaker 3: that when you're dealing with mobs, and so it makes
Speaker 3: sense to do to react rationally, in my opinion, Either
Speaker 3: dedicate yourself to educating vast numbers of people around you
Speaker 3: such that you raise the general level of knowledge and
Speaker 3: lower the ignorance level you know in your area, or
Speaker 3: isolate yourself, or try and find another place that's more
Speaker 3: that's going in the direction of you know, acknowledgment of reality,
Speaker 3: et cetera, and make sensible choices. You've got a few
Speaker 3: years all right, So between now and twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 3: we'll still have the ability to travel. At some point
Speaker 3: that will break down because of winter conditions lasting much
Speaker 3: longer than anybody anticipated, and resource constraints and all different
Speaker 3: kinds of things. So as an instance, you know, get
Speaker 3: a giant storm, the storm sticks around for three weeks,
Speaker 3: airports shut down, and even beyond the airport itself shutting
Speaker 3: down from the weather, maybe it can't open for another
Speaker 3: couple of months because refineries are damaged and you can't
Speaker 3: get jet fuel. So under the circumstances that you might
Speaker 3: have whole regions of various continents that don't have travel available.
Speaker 3: This will become an increasing scenario increasing in everybody's life
Speaker 3: as we go forward. It'll impact things like vacations and
Speaker 3: cruise plannings and these kinds of things at a very
Speaker 3: undane or trivial level, but it'll affect things like medicines,
Speaker 3: logistics for transporting goods for sale, all of those sorts
Speaker 3: of things at a very macro level, and we'll all
Speaker 3: feel it in increased prices, reduced choices, and so on.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, And Cliff, I have one more question for
Speaker 1: you before we close out. Tonight, I was wondering about
Speaker 1: your thoughts on five G and any possible dangers to
Speaker 1: us and what it could possibly be about.
Speaker 3: Five G is is an interesting subject, Okay. It is
Speaker 3: an ultra high microwave frequency. It's a very wide band
Speaker 3: as a carrier wave, so it's very attractive to technology
Speaker 3: because you can put a lot of information on it,
Speaker 3: a lot more information on it than say a radio
Speaker 3: frequency in an FM band, right a lot. You could
Speaker 3: get a lot more information in a five G Wi
Speaker 3: Fi network, So we could have four K color both
Speaker 3: ways instant transmission, and a dozen spare channels with a
Speaker 3: five G in lieu of Wi Fi. The problem with
Speaker 3: five G is that its intensity is such its frequency
Speaker 3: is so high, which is what makes it an attractive
Speaker 3: bandwidth carrier, but its frequency is so high that it
Speaker 3: actually penetrates in to the human body. It penetrates in
Speaker 3: in a way that is very shallow, but can nonetheless
Speaker 3: be very damaging. It is actually used in a five
Speaker 3: G is used in a laboratory setting to examine human
Speaker 3: DNA in thin tissue samples. Okay, they put five G
Speaker 3: into all of the airports around the United States in
Speaker 3: the forms of those full body scanners, and we've had
Speaker 3: lots of people that developed cancers as a result of
Speaker 3: running those devices, and they're not an attractive thing and
Speaker 3: it's not a burgeoning trending technology. In my opinion, they
Speaker 3: may have put those things in there to determine who
Speaker 3: was human and who was not, because the five G
Speaker 3: being a DNA level reflective ray, not only shows you
Speaker 3: your body, but could bring back DNA information within that
Speaker 3: information being sent back to the scanner. You're just not
Speaker 3: showing it on the picture as all, but they may
Speaker 3: be actually reading parts of your DNA with that five G.
Speaker 3: It is dangerous as a wave to be around because
Speaker 3: of that penetration. It's not a mind control thing because
Speaker 3: it can't go through your skull. It could probably go
Speaker 3: through the epidermal layers on my bald head, but on
Speaker 3: your head with that hair there, a lot of it
Speaker 3: would be dissipated by the hair itself, and so you
Speaker 3: wouldn't have the same level of penetration there that I would.
Speaker 3: But neither one of us could that ray actually penetrate
Speaker 3: in and affect our neuropathways and stuff. But it may
Speaker 3: very well cause all kinds of skin cancers, may very well,
Speaker 3: cause all kinds of eruptive blood issues, you know, hematomas
Speaker 3: and leukemias, this sort of thing, because it's very nasty,
Speaker 3: and in fact, it's used as a in its examination
Speaker 3: of DNA. You can use five G to like cut
Speaker 3: DNA sections. So it's that disruptive to it. It just
Speaker 3: doesn't have vast quantities of power, and that it's not
Speaker 3: like they're going to put up one big, giant five
Speaker 3: G antenna that's just going to flood the whole area
Speaker 3: with five G waves. That's the way it is with
Speaker 3: cell phones. You see, the cell phone towers are considerable
Speaker 3: distance apart line of sight. They might be twenty to
Speaker 3: thirty miles hilltop to hilltop kind of thing, and they
Speaker 3: still get a decent reception. Five G can't work that
Speaker 3: way because it doesn't. It has a lot of power
Speaker 3: in it, but it fades so rapidly. And so the
Speaker 3: way that five G is going to have to work
Speaker 3: is bazillions of five G repeaters everywhere, So it will
Speaker 3: be like in a stew of five G that's being
Speaker 3: broadcast around you from every different perspective in a city,
Speaker 3: in the sense of, you know, off of the walls
Speaker 3: of buildings out of the five G repeaters that will
Speaker 3: be put into every lamp post, that'll be put on
Speaker 3: every parking meter, that'll be stuck in everybody's house, all
Speaker 3: of this kind of things. So the intensity of the
Speaker 3: five G will be massively overwhelming. Now good news for me.
Speaker 3: I live out here in the coast right now, there's
Speaker 3: a probably ninety three percent humidity as it's raining and foggy.
Speaker 3: Five G won't operate. It simply is disrupted by water vapor.
Speaker 3: So anywhere you've got fog, you're going to have really
Speaker 3: piss poor reception with five G, which is protective of
Speaker 3: the people that are involved with it. But I suspect. Okay,
Speaker 3: this friend of mine who's a scientist, a former NASA scientist,
Speaker 3: and I'm really a spooky fellow, although very nice, he's
Speaker 3: of the opinion that five G will last as long
Speaker 3: as the first class action suit for skin cancer as
Speaker 3: a result of exposure. And I have a tendency to
Speaker 3: agree with them. It should be an extremely rapid degradation
Speaker 3: of the humans that are involved in being around the
Speaker 3: stuff all the time. And if we look at the
Speaker 3: biochemists specifically that are involved or that go into DNA
Speaker 3: analysis using five G, the insurance companies give them a
Speaker 3: three year less lifespan than a regular biochemists. So an
Speaker 3: insurance company thinks a biochemists has an average lifespan of
Speaker 3: fifty five years, but if they mess with five with
Speaker 3: the five G doing DNA analysis and biochemistry work at
Speaker 3: that level, they've got a fifty two year lifespan. They
Speaker 3: so even the insurance companies acknowledge this in their actuarial tables.
Speaker 1: Well, now you said, you said a lot there, but
Speaker 1: one thing that caught my ear that we're going to
Speaker 1: have to pick up on next time. I'm going to
Speaker 1: have to have you back on. That was some amazing information.
Speaker 1: But you said that they may be monitoring people's DNA
Speaker 1: to find out who's human. That's just right there. That
Speaker 1: blows my mind. And I know we don't have time
Speaker 1: to get into it. That that will definitely make a
Speaker 1: very interesting conversation for next time. And Cliff, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. That was, like I said,
Speaker 1: fantastic information. We're gonna have to have you back on.
Speaker 3: Sure, glad to yep.
Speaker 1: Well you have a great night, Cliff, yep, same to you.
Speaker 3: Keep your hair, it's you know protective. I'll try, i
Speaker 3: will okay,