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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew,

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<v Speaker 1>and tonight i'd like to welcome back to the show

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Robert Stanley. How you doing, Robert doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Chris, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming back. And tonight, the first thing I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk about is one of the things I

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<v Speaker 1>cover a lot of is sky phenomenon and UFO sightings,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems that there's been a recent uptick in

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<v Speaker 1>those sightings. Is that something that you've encountered yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go to my website at Unicus magazine dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see some photographs of UFOs I took here

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<v Speaker 2>in Hong Kong July twenty first, I was actually just

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<v Speaker 2>taking pictures of Mars. I didn't see the fleet of UFOs,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what it is. It looks like a fleet

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<v Speaker 2>of UFOs. Although it appears that are round Mars and

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<v Speaker 2>the photograph, they couldn't be because I'm only using a

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred milimeters leans, So that means they had to

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<v Speaker 2>be somewhere between my camera and Mars, probably pretty close

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<v Speaker 2>to hard to say for sure, but they're pretty large

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<v Speaker 2>actually in the picture. So I'm thinking they had to

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<v Speaker 2>be fairly close.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Mars is extremely bright and beautiful right now,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen it like that. Man, it's unbelievable. Here

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<v Speaker 2>on a clear night. Most of the time it's not

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<v Speaker 2>clear because we're right on the ocean or the South

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<v Speaker 2>China Sea and the harbor. But yeah, that particular night,

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<v Speaker 2>I was amazed at how clear it was, extraordinarily clear.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was set up my camera Nikon D five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred with five hundred milimeter lens on the tripod and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm shoot, shoot, shoot. I took all these pictures, and

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<v Speaker 2>then after I looked at him, I was like, wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, what's all this stuff. I mean, it's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to see stars in the background, but the stars

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<v Speaker 2>aren't supposed to be moving. The star pattern can't move.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's just impossible. So that means it had

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<v Speaker 2>to be Some people have asked me, well, those could

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<v Speaker 2>have been drones, and I'm I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have seen it or heard something if there were

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<v Speaker 2>that many drawns in the sky. So anyway, that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it seems, you know, my myself have never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a UFO. I mean, I've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>strange sky phenomenon, some weird things that I couldn't identify,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems that some people have more sightings than others.

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<v Speaker 1>Is would you see that? Seemed correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yes it is, and I'm not sure exactly why,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's happened to me that way for sure. And

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, again, if you're on my website at the

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<v Speaker 2>homepage Unicus Magazine dot com, you'll see the pictures I

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<v Speaker 2>took in July twenty first, then you'll see other pictures

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<v Speaker 2>I've taken over the years of UFOs over my house

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<v Speaker 2>where I was living at the time, specifically Rhode Island

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<v Speaker 2>at Manhattan Beach. I wish I could have photographed everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen in my life. It would have been

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<v Speaker 2>that would be amazing. But at some point it becomes redundant.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, it's like, I know I being contacted,

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<v Speaker 2>but not in the way that I am comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I would like to be able to have

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<v Speaker 2>a dialogue like this with them instead of just seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the lights dancing around. It's like that's that's just infuriating

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, Like I mean, I know they can

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<v Speaker 2>read my thoughts and that there's some level of connectivity, consciousness, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're just left here guessing as to who they

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<v Speaker 2>really are, what do they want, why are they hear

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I know at some point in your life

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<v Speaker 1>you had had some sort of a contact, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>be conscious or unconscious. Isn't that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean it started in Malibu in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five with a particular being said he was my father,

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<v Speaker 2>and but I mean there was a lot of UFO

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<v Speaker 2>encounters out there. But eventually, let's see, in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>I started working as editor of Unicust magazine and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I actually we were reaching out to people. The

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<v Speaker 2>subtitle of Unicus is the Magazine for extra Earthbound Extraterrestrials,

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<v Speaker 2>so naturally we had to find we were looking for

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<v Speaker 2>people that claimed that they were extra trustrials here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did meet two human beings, both men, who

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that they were human extraterrestrials here. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to prove, okay, but we were trying, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing on my radio show. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>putting it out there that extraterrestrials, whether they're human or not,

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<v Speaker 2>are welcome to be part of the program.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have actually made that call out myself on

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<v Speaker 1>my show. Yeah, I'd love to speak with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be up to the audience to decide whether they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling the truth or not. But you know, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to speak with somebody who claimed to be an extraterrestrial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, there's somebody out there right now. You may

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<v Speaker 2>have seen him on the YouTube. A guy named Eddie

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<v Speaker 2>claims his dad as val Thor or Anu or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, anybody can say anything, especially on the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>There's really it's not like the old days of journalism,

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, somebody or some group of people so

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<v Speaker 2>called journalists would go out and vet stories and usually

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<v Speaker 2>they would never report it if they didn't have at

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<v Speaker 2>least two sources, independent sources, supposedly to lend more credibility

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<v Speaker 2>to the information. I think even back then, though there

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<v Speaker 2>was most of it was just propaganda.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they have some really crazy out there whistleblowers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quote unquote whistleblowers now that are just I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a lot of disinformation myself. What about you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, unfortunately, and that would go for even this guy, Eddie.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that. I mean, he admits that he

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<v Speaker 2>had been spent a period of years working with or

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<v Speaker 2>for the CIA, and it seems to me that he's

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<v Speaker 2>under some sort of mind control and doesn't even realize it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he also said when he first went public with

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<v Speaker 2>his story about being a human extraterrestrial here that he

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<v Speaker 2>admittedly lied that his CIA hypnotherapist or hypnotist, whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call it, therapist handler was actually sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the audience while he was lying to the You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like he had to tell us this lie

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<v Speaker 2>before he could tell us the truth. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 2>just doesn't it doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't trust a lot of those And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the more research I do and the more

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<v Speaker 1>people I talk to and listening to you, I start

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<v Speaker 1>to realize, you know, we probably are in a simulation.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, would you say it's more of a training

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<v Speaker 1>ground or a prison or both? I mean, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point both. I'd have to say

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<v Speaker 2>it's both. I mean I don't know that it originally

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<v Speaker 2>started out that way. I mean, it's hard to say.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of came up again recently a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>different sources authors had said that some of these Onanaki

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<v Speaker 2>criminals psychopaths were actually imprisoned here, or I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>are imprisoned here, and the analogy was like Australia. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the British Crown didn't ask the Aborigines of Australia. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you mind terribly if we drop off some of

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<v Speaker 2>our undiesirables, some of our criminal element, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason it happened, okay, And that's it explains a

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<v Speaker 2>lot as to why psychopaths rise to the top here

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<v Speaker 2>typically and aren't prosecuted properly in my opinion, and also

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<v Speaker 2>why there's no disclosure, I mean full disclosure about the

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<v Speaker 2>extraterustrial presence. I mean, even like with them the work

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<v Speaker 2>of Zach Crystichen, he kept claiming that they had left,

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<v Speaker 2>when in fact he knew that they were still here

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<v Speaker 2>at least some contingent of them was still here or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, it's just it's confusing, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's designed at some level. I do think this is

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<v Speaker 2>being permitted because it challenges us in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>allows us to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said, they're still here, do you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>just in a different vibration or a different dimension.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think many of them are physical like you

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<v Speaker 2>and I. Yeah, and that's that's why it's easy for

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<v Speaker 2>them to blend in. Well, we're part of their family, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like they're up here and we're the lowly

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<v Speaker 2>worker they wanted. They would love for us to believe it,

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<v Speaker 2>when in fact, well you look at again. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Australia. The Aboriginal people supposedly are primitive and

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<v Speaker 2>don't have technology, right, but they have other skills that

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of us lack. And I think that their

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual awareness is very high if I understand who they

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<v Speaker 2>really are, and that would so you take that analogy

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<v Speaker 2>and you apply it to us. I believe that we

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<v Speaker 2>have an interdimensional we still have an interdimensional component, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are not imprisoned here, so in fact, we have

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<v Speaker 2>more certain skills that these fallen on Unaki psychopathic criminals don't.

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<v Speaker 2>So they actually need us. This is why they want

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<v Speaker 2>to control us and lie to us and trick us.

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<v Speaker 2>Is because even though they were imprisoned here, they can

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<v Speaker 2>if they can convince us under false pretenses to do

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<v Speaker 2>certain things that will actually benefit them, then they can

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<v Speaker 2>some At some point, they're probably thinking that they could

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<v Speaker 2>break out with our help, and I think that's where

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<v Speaker 2>the secret Space program came from.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're essentially stuck here with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could put it that way. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 2>that would also explain why this world, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 2>simulation or not. I don't think it was originally that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think the simulation came later. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>starting to wonder if what we call the simulation wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually part of the way of containing or quarantining these

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<v Speaker 2>particular psychopathic on a Nachi prisoners.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very interesting. Now, is there a divine source or

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<v Speaker 1>creator that created the whole simulation.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine there is, but I do think it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>being run by an artificial intelligence. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it originally started that way, but it seems to me

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<v Speaker 2>completely synthetic in that regard. It's like overlaid on what

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<v Speaker 2>was originally organic, and so it's dominating, manipulating, controlling, But

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't create anything except as false matrix that's overlaid

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<v Speaker 2>on top of it, like a hologram on top of

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<v Speaker 2>a hologram. Basically, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that this entity is something that's always been or

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<v Speaker 1>at created at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, if if we're talking about us, like Yanky

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<v Speaker 2>or Lucifer, then yes, of course he has has to

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<v Speaker 2>be and have created he as a family. And a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that information is available in my library for free,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, I just share the information. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to sell anything. Most of everything actually on

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<v Speaker 2>my website is bringing I don't have any ads. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate ads. So in any case, this this is a

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<v Speaker 2>very special time we're living through because it appears that

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<v Speaker 2>disclosure obviously is not going to come from official sources,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're at all they talk about collusion, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these guys really it's not even that. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>other level where there are so many pawns and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>let them know it, but they don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>break free of that bondage to these particular entities. And

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, there are also divine beings here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it. Okay, So back to Australia, if

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<v Speaker 2>you when they put all those criminals in these particular

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<v Speaker 2>injurious So the same is true for these particular onnonarchy

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<v Speaker 2>that are imprisoned here. There has to be some oversight

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<v Speaker 1>Now these elites, I mean means that some of them

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<v Speaker 2>there could be anything living here that was soulless. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the the matrix itself is a program and that within

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<v Speaker 2>it it's created, uh, programs that are that have no

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, now, as for these these people here that

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So there's a book in my library called The

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<v Speaker 2>Stellar man, Please look it up. This is a very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult read. It's it's in English, but it's very uh sobering.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's difficult to accept that we have been hoodwinked

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<v Speaker 2>so bad and connect to this matrix, this computer like simulation,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where we've become robotic animals. They wanted

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<v Speaker 2>their advantage serving their agenda. So the book The Stellar

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<v Speaker 2>Man is coming from a place of hermeticism that would

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<v Speaker 2>name would be baba Jee, which means benevolent father. So

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<v Speaker 2>the teachings of hermeticism take us beyond the matrix. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though we're still here, we can actually start to go

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<v Speaker 2>beyond it. But it's a very difficult process. Very few

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<v Speaker 2>people have the ability or the courage to practice those

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<v Speaker 2>those insights. It's really what it is. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>religious it's a process and you have to do that individually. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you can ask for help, but ultimately it comes down

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<v Speaker 2>to one's individual content consciousness. So this is again I

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<v Speaker 2>think in what I was raised in self realization under

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<v Speaker 2>Paramhanzi Yogananda, that this is essentially what it is. Baba

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<v Speaker 2>Jee also Hermes Toth, whatever you want to call him,

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<v Speaker 2>he has been our benefactor. He is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>spiritually ast masters that is here until things get corrected,

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<v Speaker 2>because again it was unfair and it's obviously a violation

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<v Speaker 2>of our free will, and more importantly, it's impeding our

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<v Speaker 2>the matrix is actually serving a purpose that was for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, I don't think it was its an intent intentional,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, the original intent for whatever it was. This

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<v Speaker 2>there's the unintended consequence is that that this particular classroom

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<v Speaker 2>setting is testing us on many levels. And if once

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, now, are there ways to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reach these levels without actually dying? And is even death

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<v Speaker 1>reaching another level?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is if you're prepared for it, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I TA wrote the book, the so called Book

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dead, It's actually should be spelled the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of the Jed d j E D. What the jed

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<v Speaker 2>the Kundalini, the chakra system. So this is something if

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<v Speaker 2>you work on it prior to the physical death, your

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<v Speaker 2>spirit will have a much better time negotiating those other

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<v Speaker 1>And it seems that there are certain things that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of help to keep us from realizing who we are

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<v Speaker 1>and what we are in this and technology is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. I believe. Yes, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good things about it, but there's a lot of really

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Actually, there's an article and if you go to

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<v Speaker 2>one about our body actually glows amidst light. I forget

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<v Speaker 2>the exact title, but what it it proves is that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so the light coming off of our body, the frequency

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of the DNA, that is, some of it

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<v Speaker 2>is feeding back to give us a sense of self.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it is also interacting just like through this medium. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>some portion of our light, energy, consciousness is being exchanged.

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<v Speaker 2>It isn't just verbal, especially when we're face to face,

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<v Speaker 2>but even through this medium, it's we're you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>speed of thought is beyond what we think of or

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<v Speaker 2>choose to believe as the speed of light, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a lie. It's a very huge another one of the

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<v Speaker 2>great big lies they told us. But the bottom line

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<v Speaker 2>is the cell phone technology, especially now with five G,

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<v Speaker 2>is vibrating about on the same frequency as the light

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<v Speaker 2>emitted from our bodies. So what this is doing intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>is cutting us off from not only from having a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of self, but also connecting to others and more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>connecting to what is beyond this matrix is a web

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<v Speaker 2>of light. That is where we come from, that is

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<v Speaker 2>where we return to it. Souls and everything is connected

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<v Speaker 2>in this web of light. And this is why crea

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<v Speaker 2>yoga not as a religious thing, but as an actual technique,

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<v Speaker 2>We have the so called out of body experience, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where the baptism of spirit comes from. And

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<v Speaker 2>by by meditating on this particular sound, when we generate

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<v Speaker 2>a title, it's a sound. And it's just like when

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<v Speaker 2>you tune into a radio station. You know, you turn

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<v Speaker 2>you turn your radio tunes into this particular frequency, and

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<v Speaker 2>now you've got the lock and then you you can

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<v Speaker 2>actually hear the signal. The same is true for us

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<v Speaker 2>here without dying, you know, we can tune into that

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<v Speaker 2>particular frequency and connect with the web of light. This

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<v Speaker 2>is also known as the being born again in spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>You need the baptism of spirit. They typically call these web.

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<v Speaker 2>This web is that it's actually like rivers or streams

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<v Speaker 2>of light sometimes oceans of light. Just like on the planet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have streams, rivers, oceans, and the cosmos

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<v Speaker 2>you have these the light consciousness energy is constantly flowing

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<v Speaker 2>through and connecting to itself. So when we've been here,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when we've been here too long and we're involved

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<v Speaker 2>in these technologies and other issues that distract us, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is the tree of life that they

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<v Speaker 2>it as the tree of light. And what that is

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<v Speaker 2>is it's a metaphor for our the chakra system, the kulini,

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<v Speaker 2>the jed as they called it in Egypt. Uh As.

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<v Speaker 2>The energy runs up through the spine and out through

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<v Speaker 2>those particular chakra whatever you want to call them, the conduits,

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<v Speaker 2>those little spinning wheels of energy, the little vortoises of

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<v Speaker 2>energy that run through the body and like branches of

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<v Speaker 2>a tree. So the deal of light is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's very interesting. And and not only you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are they trying to program us with you know, cell

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<v Speaker 1>phones and technology. It seems like with the food and

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<v Speaker 1>water and the air, everything, everything is everything changing our vibration.

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<v Speaker 2>God, there's dust in this room, try not to trying

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<v Speaker 2>not to steeze. So, yes, you're right, everything in this

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<v Speaker 2>particular world is designed to distract us and also control.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, this entire matrix, this particular level of

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<v Speaker 2>reality is designed for around competition and control. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to break free that. It takes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of courage and effort, I mean persistent effort. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just pick it up one day and say, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to achieve enlightenment. But yeah, it's it's things

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<v Speaker 2>with these these come on aaki, whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 2>call them, fallen angels, dark lords. They're imprisoned here, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have they're not omnipotent, and there are restrictions placed

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<v Speaker 2>upon them and what they can do to us. And

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want us to know that, obviously, because that

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<v Speaker 2>would just well it would make it very much more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for them while they're here. So that's something we

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<v Speaker 2>have to keep in mind. Is there we have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more ability or capability or potential that is now awakening,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why they're freaking out and acting more increasingly desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, would you say the entire universe is part of

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<v Speaker 1>this simulation? Is like a giant interface or is it?

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<v Speaker 1>You're each different kind of world its own simulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so beyond this particular matrix, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>the entire It's not really even a universe. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a simulation of a universe within a particular universe.

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<v Speaker 2>And why am I saying that is because there isn't

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<v Speaker 2>just one universe. There's multiple. There may be infinite numbers

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<v Speaker 2>of universes that are created by an infinite number of

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<v Speaker 2>creator gods. It's a co creation. Who knows where this started. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it may have started with a singularity or a single entity,

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<v Speaker 2>but that entity has like a tree, a tree of light,

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<v Speaker 2>and it ultimately became mature enough that it bore seeds

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<v Speaker 2>of light that would be us. And well, we're still

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<v Speaker 2>in the seedling phase. But I'm just saying that's how

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<v Speaker 2>are an infinite number of creator And the thing what

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<v Speaker 2>I like about all this is, in fact, are we're

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<v Speaker 2>related to all these other entities. It's it's and that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons they're very concerned about us and

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<v Speaker 2>want to connect with us in a way that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be acceptable to us, because we've been there, We've

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<v Speaker 2>been like to these so many times, but so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very difficult for us to even comprehend some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that they would like to share with us,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially when it comes to the emotions that they feel,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just overwhelming. I'm talking about the Benett beings now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's really impossible to put in words how

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<v Speaker 2>they look at us. I'll just tell you this way briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>that their love for us is never ending, which is

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of hard to believe considering how brutal we

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<v Speaker 2>are have been, I should say, for so long relatively speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, time is not not he it's limited. Our

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<v Speaker 2>understanding of time is actually an illusion, and it's blinding

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<v Speaker 2>us from seeing the bigger picture and more importantly connecting

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<v Speaker 1>These benevolent ones. Would you say that there's possibly a

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<v Speaker 1>war going on with the benevolent aliens or ets?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay from the dark side believes it is at war

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<v Speaker 2>because there they feel threatened. They're okay, their ego, their

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<v Speaker 2>way of life is threatened indirectly by those of us

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<v Speaker 2>that are in the light. The benevolent ones naturally are

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<v Speaker 2>not aggressive and would never start a war, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point they have to defend themselves and more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>limit the amount of damage that the dark lords could do,

418
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<v Speaker 2>have done, or could do in the future. So you know,

419
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 2>it's an act of kindness actually what they did by

420
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>bringing them here, because where else are they going to

421
00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 2>put them? I mean, there's only so many places they

422
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:23.720
<v Speaker 2>could possibly put them, right, Nobody wants a prison in

423
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:29.640
<v Speaker 2>their backyard, right, okay, but they have to put them somewhere,

424
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 2>they have to be dealt with. I mean, just exterminating

425
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>them is completely inhumane, and anybody who's benevolent would never

426
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.880
<v Speaker 2>do that, especially when you consider from their perspective that

427
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.359
<v Speaker 2>we're all family. You don't just kill your family members

428
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 2>because they're crazy.

429
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<v Speaker 1>Now you were saying that, you know earlier that levels,

430
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<v Speaker 1>the deepest levels of the Deep State have contact with

431
00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>these beings.

432
00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Of course they do, because they're controlled by it, and

433
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.599
<v Speaker 2>at some point they realize that there's a Dutch banker

434
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>that that has come forward, Especially in his more recent interview,

435
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>he actually just said they're Luciferian, they're Satanic, they are

436
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrial and extra dimensional. What he didn't say, though, that

437
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 2>is the one those particular entities are stuck here. It's

438
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>an important distinction. Okay, it's not like they remain uh oh,

439
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>this particular world or maybe even the it could be

440
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the whole Solar system is quarantine. I'm not sure, because

441
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.279
<v Speaker 2>it seems like they're not just limited to this world.

442
00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting. Now, there seem to have been all these

443
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>cataclysms throughout our history. Do they re intention do they

444
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>intentionally reset the matrix at times or is this natural occurrences?

445
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's nothing about this as natural. It's an overlay

446
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 2>on top of the natural system. Okay. One of the

447
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>things that's con assistant in this particular simulation is that

448
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>it's all about destruction, chaos, cruelty, corruption. Again, this is

449
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>all about control. They need to control us. So one

450
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 2>of the ways they do that is to and I

451
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 2>think that's really why they altered our DNA. It wasn't

452
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.559
<v Speaker 2>to turn us into workers, although we do serve them.

453
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>That's what the word worship actually means to work for.

454
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>So we do worship them under various guises of you know,

455
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>oh it's a god, it's an angel, it's a lord, whatever.

456
00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean. They gave us our modern religion. The fallen

457
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>ones actually did give us our religion, which is too,

458
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 2>which would explain why they all fight with one another.

459
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>They all disagree.

460
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. I mean,

461
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:54.039
<v Speaker 1>so most of the religions were created for control, for

462
00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 1>deliberate control.

463
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Unfortunately. Yeah, And so that's the other thing. It's

464
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be differ for some people to accept because

465
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>there is a level of comfort when you when a

466
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>person joins a religion. It isn't just about God. It's

467
00:29:09.759 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 2>about group think. It's about fitting in and feeling mmm, like, yeah,

468
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you're you actually abdicates, abdicate some of your personal responsibility

469
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>when you're in a group. I think when you follow

470
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 2>the rules like that, you don't have to take personal

471
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>responsibility as much for your thoughts and deeds because it's

472
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>all in a book and the priest said so, and whatever,

473
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>the pope or something. You know, you just follow the

474
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 2>rules of that group as opposed to actually finding your

475
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>own path. It's it's which can be a little frightening

476
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 2>in this world. Actually, they don't encourage it, let's put

477
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:53.319
<v Speaker 2>it that way.

478
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think goes on at the Vatican.

479
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 1>What do you think that whole construct is about. Is

480
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>it Luciferian?

481
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Luciferian Satanic? That would be Ankee and his son Marduk,

482
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if they're in prison here or not.

483
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to say. I mean, these things are evolving

484
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 2>as you know. The thing is, I'm working on this

485
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>every day because personally, I feel and I have a

486
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 2>need to know. I have a right to know these things,

487
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 2>even though they are hidden and very much twisted, twisted,

488
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 2>deeply mangled, you know, layers of lies. I mean, there's

489
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of truth mixed in with layers and

490
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 2>layers and layers and layers of lies. So it's a

491
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>difficult task to unravel these things. But you know, as

492
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I get new information, my understanding this evolves, and that's

493
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>why I do shows like this, and I also put

494
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 2>whatever information is coming to me, I put it on

495
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 2>my Internet for other people to look at, and.

496
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 1>We definitely appreciate that. Robert, Well, it seems I've been

497
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 1>thinking that the divine feminine you don't hear anything about

498
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the divine feminine anymore. Is that intentionally suppressed?

499
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, because this is much like the mafia,

500
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>is very patriarchal. So these criminals, these cosmic criminals that

501
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 2>are here are it's very much a male dominated thing,

502
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 2>and they know that they don't have that level of

503
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>creativity that divine feminine embodies.

504
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 3>That.

505
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 2>In fact, everything about the creative process at its very

506
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 2>core is a feminine matrix, and so they can't compete

507
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>with that, and that's why they push it out as

508
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.079
<v Speaker 2>much as possible. This me too hashtag me too movement

509
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.319
<v Speaker 2>isn't really for the benefit of women or let alone

510
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>the divine feminine. It's just further the level of control

511
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to keep us divided down in this particular realm.

512
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 1>And do you think that's where they're going with the

513
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>whole transhumanism?

514
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. Again, it's a perversion

515
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>of nature as we know it, whereas actually, you know,

516
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure all the life here was symbiotic and

517
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that humans as we consider ourselves, were hermaphrodite. So even

518
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>though we may look like we were females, we were

519
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 2>in fact we had both and both sex organs or

520
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 2>what do you recall it, We had the capacity to

521
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>give birth on our own because we were hermaphrodite. I

522
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>should say, the original life forms here with that, and

523
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they are on other worlds too, are still

524
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.519
<v Speaker 2>that hasn't changed.

525
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Very very interesting. So going back to when I had

526
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 1>asked you about the resets, that we are in store

527
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>for another reset or can?

528
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

529
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Probably really? And now is this something that we could

530
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>control at all?

531
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.559
<v Speaker 2>No, now we can only control our own consciousness or

532
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 2>understanding of these things. That again, most of it mostly synthetic.

533
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 2>It's criminal and it's beyond our control. It's not really

534
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>our responsibility. We're only responsible for our own consciousness and

535
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>our deeds. So this and there are I don't know

536
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>what the percentage is, but there are a number of

537
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>us souls that either have awakened or our awakening now

538
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>that we'll find a way out now, whether it's on

539
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>our own or if we're going to get in assistance

540
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>like refugees. I do think there's a possibility that a

541
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of us are going to migrate out of here

542
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 2>in the very near future, in the next few years.

543
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I think we'll see as disclosure comes. Unofficially, disclosure is coming.

544
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>It's already happening, and people are waking up and they're

545
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>making choices based on the information that's coming out. I

546
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>feel from benevolent sources that people are souls are going

547
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to choose to leave. They've just had enough and they

548
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.880
<v Speaker 2>have every right to do that. That's you know. I mean,

549
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:35.559
<v Speaker 2>this was a huge violation on some level, but it

550
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 2>was always known by the benevolent ones that this was

551
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>not permanent. It's not an eternal sentence and damnation, you know,

552
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it was a temporary situation. They've been watching over us

553
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 2>to make sure we didn't get harmed too badly, and

554
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>they've been guiding us so that we can learn from these.

555
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Think of it like this. When you go to school,

556
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 2>you have a test. Once you pass the this particular test,

557
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 2>let's say first grade. Right, you graduated from the first grade.

558
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>They've given you all kinds of tests on this level. Well,

559
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 2>where where do you go the next level? And it's

560
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>like that, right, you keep going, going, going until you're

561
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>supposedly done with that. And it's not mandatory, you know,

562
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, supposedly you have to go to school here, right,

563
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 2>otherwise they come and get you and force you to

564
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 2>learn their indoctrination. And I'm talking about public schools. Right,

565
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.119
<v Speaker 2>every child just has to go through the system to

566
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.639
<v Speaker 2>be programmed. But I was fortunate I didn't have to

567
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>do that so much. I actually started I think it

568
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>was junior high is I was traveling with my parents,

569
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 2>so I took correspondence courses in order to graduate from

570
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>junior high. Then the same thing happened in high school,

571
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and so I learned how to educate myself. And in fact,

572
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>that's part of the harmetic process, is realizing that you

573
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>can't expect someone to give you the all the answers,

574
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 2>especially in a group setting, by joining a religion or

575
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a cult or whatever, and you know, waving a magic

576
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 2>wand and on it. Stuff that doesn't work. You have

577
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to do it individually, become self realized.

578
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>So so for someone who's just waking up to all

579
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the crap around them and just overwhelmed, is it possible

580
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>for them to be able to ascend? When you say this,

581
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>this window is going to occur.

582
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I think I don't like that word, but yeah,

583
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I know people use it a lot. I think of

584
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>it more as a liberation. We're able to leave this setting.

585
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, hey, look, if you can't spend your entire

586
00:36:41.960 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>life in a classroom, you have to at some point

587
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you have to leave the classroom and go out and

588
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>live this so called real world and apply whatever you've

589
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 2>learned here in the real world. So that's what the

590
00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.760
<v Speaker 2>It's an opportunity. We're not really evolving or I think

591
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>we're being given the opportunity to leave this particular matrix

592
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>at a time that's beneficial for us because we choose

593
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>to do that, and it's it's going to be amazing.

594
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm it's kind of hard to explain to you, but

595
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll put it this way. In my library, there's a

596
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 2>new book that the Extraterrestrial on Anachy. He's the third

597
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.800
<v Speaker 2>son of Ankie, brother of Marduk, which is kind of weird.

598
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a.

599
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Book in my library. Can you hear me?

600
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 3>Now?

601
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, So there's a book in my library

602
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 2>called Bobajee the Extraterrestrial. It's very difficult to read, but

603
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>essentially Babaji is, like I said, the brother of Marduk

604
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>or Raw also known as Satan. He's the son. He's

605
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>a third son of Ankie, also known as Lucifer. So

606
00:37:57.519 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of strange that such a divine being or

607
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 2>a master would come from that particular family, but he did.

608
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 2>He does, and there's a lot of important insights in

609
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 2>that particular book. If you don't, if you find it

610
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>too difficult, I would suggest you read the forty third

611
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.960
<v Speaker 2>chapter of Autobiography of a Yogi. And why is that important?

612
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Yogananda is Guru Sri Yukittsar. When he physically passed away,

613
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 2>he came back, allegedly came back in his astral body

614
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and spoke to Yogananda and explained to him what the

615
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:43.280
<v Speaker 2>multiverse really is all the different levels, from the highest

616
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 2>level of source to the causal plane, to the astral

617
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:50.199
<v Speaker 2>plane to the physical plane that we're at now. So

618
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>this is very helpful because, I mean, it gives you

619
00:38:56.559 --> 00:39:02.119
<v Speaker 2>a perspective of the real big picture. And there's he

620
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 2>even talks in there about the dark angels, the fallen ones.

621
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>They're in prison, he says this. He says, they're imprisoned

622
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 2>in the lower astral So it's it's a very very

623
00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>insightful book.

624
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Now.

625
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<v Speaker 2>I read that when I was a child, and and

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<v Speaker 2>I've read it a few times after that, but only

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<v Speaker 2>recently when I read it again, it actually, excuse me,

628
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<v Speaker 2>it actually for the first time made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the full, full on. I could see it

630
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<v Speaker 2>all in a way that I'd never seen before, which

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<v Speaker 2>is it's a sign that I personally am having these realizations,

632
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<v Speaker 2>this awareness. But we have to act on it, you know,

633
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>we have to act on these these insights. And so

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that I've done is become vegetarian. Again.

635
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<v Speaker 2>Meditating by itself is one thing, but you have to

636
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<v Speaker 2>take care of your body in order for it to

637
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<v Speaker 2>function well, to be a good conduit or connection to

638
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<v Speaker 2>the web of light for your consciousness, for your soul. Okay,

639
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<v Speaker 2>so certain foods definitely help us have a different level

640
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<v Speaker 2>of vibration.

641
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<v Speaker 3>Or light.

642
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<v Speaker 2>So this is and actually this is well known even

643
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<v Speaker 2>outside religious circles, that certain foods contain more energy, more

644
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<v Speaker 2>life as opposed to especially the processed foods with all

645
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<v Speaker 2>the chemicals and whatnot, those are designed to really eat

646
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.320
<v Speaker 2>lower our frequency as as you know, as much as

647
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<v Speaker 2>as possible without killing the buying.

648
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's so hard to find good food, you know,

649
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<v Speaker 1>if you if you're gonna buy it, it's gonna be

650
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<v Speaker 1>so expensive. They try to do anything to keep you

651
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<v Speaker 1>from getting the good nutrition that your body needs.

652
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

653
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and water too, like you said in air and whatever.

654
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<v Speaker 2>But but we can control this, and it's again it's

655
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<v Speaker 2>a choice. There's we are fixated with the idea of

656
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 2>having protein, when in fact, what we're really looking for

657
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>is light. So when we leave this particular plane and

658
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>we moved to the akashik and then the causal plane,

659
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>what we consider to be our vehicle, our body, our

660
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 2>expression of the soul and extension of the soul. The

661
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>vehicle we absorbed the light. We just absorb it like

662
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<v Speaker 2>a plant absorbed sunlight. There was a time in the

663
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<v Speaker 2>past when that actually was the case. Here, our bodies

664
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<v Speaker 2>actually have something similar to chlorophyll. It's not called that.

665
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 2>It's something else but and I forget the name of it.

666
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 2>It's some scientific name. But our bodies don't have much

667
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<v Speaker 2>of it now. But if we had more of it

668
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>in our blood, we would be able to just absorb

669
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the light directly. We are absorbing light indirectly through our food.

670
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<v Speaker 2>And it's so again certain foods contain more of that

671
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<v Speaker 2>light energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting, and this opportunity to escape. You think this

673
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<v Speaker 1>is being offered to us by the benevolent ones.

674
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, of course they don't want us to be stuck here.

675
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you think about it. Your family

676
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 2>wants you to come home from school. I went through

677
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>this recently when we moved to Hong Kong.

678
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<v Speaker 1>Are some.

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00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>He stayedlined for a couple of years, and he yes,

680
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 2>he came to visit us when he was on summer

681
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and winter break. But the separation anxiety that I actually

682
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 2>made me depressed, and I know he was feeling it

683
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>as well. So I use that as an analogy that

684
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 2>our family beyond this matrix actually misses us and is

685
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to the day when some of us choose

686
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 2>to leave here and come home.

687
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<v Speaker 1>So where do you see us as a planet going

688
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<v Speaker 1>in the next five to ten years.

689
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Or we're going to go into after so called outer

690
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:05.519
<v Speaker 2>space and colonize the Moon and Mars. And of course

691
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<v Speaker 2>I think we've already done this secretly on behalf of

692
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>these particular or fallen angels, dark lords, whatever you want

693
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.519
<v Speaker 2>to call it, again, to serve their agenda, assist them

694
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<v Speaker 2>in some fashion secretly. But now we see that this

695
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.440
<v Speaker 2>is being talked about openly every day. I talk about

696
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot on my show, not just my opinion. I

697
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 2>mean I comment on things in the news, like this

698
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<v Speaker 2>latest thing that they've developed a space force, this new

699
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>branch of the military. The current head of NASA has

700
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<v Speaker 2>said that the military is going to go to the

701
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<v Speaker 2>Moon despite whatever treaties we have with the UN. I mean,

702
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it's like they're saying, basically saying, screw you. We're really

703
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>good at breaking treaties, just as the Native Americans, and

704
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 2>we're going to do what we want because it's within

705
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>our national interests or what they sometimes called manifest destiny.

706
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 1>So you think we already have operations on Mars and

707
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the Moon.

708
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean America or Shadow Government? Yeah, yes, yes, absolutely,

709
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I know they do.

710
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So how do you know how long we've had

711
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.639
<v Speaker 1>this going? I mean, has it been you know, decades

712
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 1>or longer?

713
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

714
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely decades. I mean for sure the German secret

715
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 2>societies were I think baited into this thinking it was

716
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 2>somehow going to benefit them. I don't think that. I

717
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 2>don't think it worked out well for them ultimately. You know,

718
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>this is the thing you may have temporary, if you

719
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>may cut a deal with these particular entities. They may

720
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 2>give you something initially, but then you owe them. It's

721
00:44:57.639 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 2>just like the Mob. I'm telling you. These guys are

722
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden and they they they're very

723
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 2>good atting people into these arrangements, deals that serve their agenda.

724
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's been going on for some time.

725
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Now do you think they know about this upcoming opportunity.

726
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Or oh yeah?

727
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And does just make them nervous?

728
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's making them. It's freaking them out because they

729
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.800
<v Speaker 2>need Now we're talking about the Dark Lords, not thee

730
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Shadow Government. The Dark Lords absolutely need us, or they

731
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.639
<v Speaker 2>think they need us. They don't want to be just

732
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>stuck here by themselves without us. They've they've lost certain

733
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 2>advantages and or abilities that they're using us like a

734
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>tool essentially, And they also feed off of some of

735
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 2>the dark energy that comes off as when we hurt

736
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:53.079
<v Speaker 2>ourselves or others. So they need our creativity, they need

737
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>our cosmic consciousness or light energy. Of course it's perverted

738
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 2>into something very dark. You know, sort is telling you

739
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 2>before our body emits light but through the DNA, but

740
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:08.360
<v Speaker 2>when we hurt ourselves or others, the light frequency shifts

741
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to something that is very dark and distorted, or they

742
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 2>call it dissonant. It's no longer resonant and harmonious. It's

743
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 2>this dissonant energy, and that's actually what they feed off of.

744
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>So they really do see us as a resource and

745
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 2>tools basically pawns, their pawns. So yes, they don't they

746
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 2>don't want us leaving. That's not going to help them.

747
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 1>So one of the best ways to get on your

748
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 1>journey out, you would say, is good diet, you know,

749
00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 1>good works, and meditation, getting to know yourself and going

750
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>within yourself.

751
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Would you agree, Yeah, it's through the heart, not the mind.

752
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 2>You have to open your heart and go within, and

753
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 2>it's actually a vord fortics, it's a spiraling inward and

754
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>that's what opens the door to the great beyond. So

755
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 2>the thing about meditation is most people think it's just

756
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you're you're going to stop all the thought process, and

757
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I disagree. We're not designed like that. We

758
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>need to have at least one thing to focus on,

759
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's actually very difficult. I just don't think it's foine.

760
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I know people claim that they can stop thinking about everything.

761
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 2>I just don't believe it. Nobody is brave enough to

762
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 2>do a submitted Oh no, I can't stop that. What

763
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 2>you can do, though, is by focusing. This is why

764
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 2>they show you a mandala or you chant, well, particularly

765
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 2>you repeat a chant. It allows you to focus on

766
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 2>one thing, and the more you can focus on one thing,

767
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the other stuff kind of fades back. And so meditation

768
00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:02.119
<v Speaker 2>is really a form of deep, deep, deep concentration. What

769
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>are we concentrating on? Hopefully it's reconnecting to this web

770
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>of light and the process is again that's what crea

771
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 2>yoga is really at the core of it all, it's

772
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>about reconnecting us and that's actually what yoga means it's

773
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 2>a union or connecting connectivity. So this comes to us

774
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>from this particular entity, Baba Jee Benevolent Father. And I

775
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>told you he has many different names, and many people

776
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:37.159
<v Speaker 2>actually love him. They just don't understand how much he

777
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>loves us because he chose to stay here, knowing what

778
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 2>a mess it really is. He chose to stay here

779
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and really be our spiritual father. And what does that mean?

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00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, when you take care of a child,

781
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you make sure that they don't get heard, and you

782
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you nurture their growth. You can't do things for them,

783
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>but you can help nurture them, right, So that's what

784
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 2>he's been doing. I've only now I'm fifty eight, I

785
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>only now finally understand the role he's played in my life,

786
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 2>and it's still playing in my life. It's really quite astonishing.

787
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and is this a physical entity that could come

788
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 1>back at some point?

789
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>He never left. Yeah, he can express himself in physical form,

790
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 2>but he is way beyond that. He's a self realized master,

791
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>what they call an avatar, or more specifically a Maha avatar.

792
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>He is very high level soul, but he choose to

793
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>stay behind. And that particular concept or act is called

794
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>a body zatva. So instead of him just going off

795
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 2>into the higher realms and saying, hey, good luck, he

796
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:03.800
<v Speaker 2>stays here until the work is done, till the probably

797
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<v Speaker 2>to the last soul is chooses to leave. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible undertaking. But you know, think of it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>He is, he knows he's immortal, He chooses to be immortal.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows he's an immortal soul. He can express himself

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<v Speaker 2>in whatever vehicle at whatever time he wishes to so.

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<v Speaker 2>And because he's multi dimensional, it's not a problem. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like he's stuck here and suffering from karma or

804
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the whatever torment. You know, he's he's always focused, some

805
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.840
<v Speaker 2>part of him always exists at this level and this

806
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<v Speaker 2>level and this level. That's what a multi dimensional being

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<v Speaker 2>is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, very fascinating, and now I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>again for joining us. Is there anything interesting you have

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming that you'd like to tell us about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I was on Coast to Coast again

812
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.280
<v Speaker 2>yesterday with George Nory. That was pretty interesting. I mean,

813
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<v Speaker 2>I think we've been doing that for almost twelve years

814
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<v Speaker 2>now and doing that show, so I was grateful. I mean,

815
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<v Speaker 2>that's how I got started as a talk show host,

816
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 2>was doing that show originally back in two thousand and six.

817
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm actually enjoying hosting my own radio show

818
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>on weekends on KGRA Friday and Saturday nights from ten

819
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<v Speaker 2>to midnight Eastern. But I'm also working on my next book,

820
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 2>which is about Malibu and not just my life growing

821
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<v Speaker 2>up there, but the hidden history of the Onanaki, these

822
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:38.559
<v Speaker 2>fallen ones, some very interesting artifacts and other events that well,

823
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<v Speaker 2>I think people will find it very interesting once I

824
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<v Speaker 2>get that done.

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00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'll be looking very forward to that. Well, Robert,

826
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us. It was an awesome conversation

827
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<v Speaker 1>and we'd love to have you back on again.

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<v Speaker 3>And thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome night, Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you too, thank you bye bye for.

831
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew,

832
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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very excited about tonight's show. Tonight, my guest

833
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<v Speaker 1>is Cliff High and if you aren't familiar, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>computer scientist linguistic. He's a founder of the predictive linguistics field,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a powerful process that analyzes vast amounts of

836
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<v Speaker 1>data that has actually predicted future events, but Cliff also

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<v Speaker 1>has a vast knowledge of things esoteric, or, as he

838
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<v Speaker 1>calls it, all things woo. How you doing tonight, Cliff.

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<v Speaker 3>Good and fine? How about yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very good, and I want to thank you again

841
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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. And I thought we'd start out with, well,

842
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about your background as it pertains to

843
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 1>the esoteric, and you know, kind of what opened your

844
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<v Speaker 1>eyes to the world behind our world and the things

845
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<v Speaker 1>that they don't teach us in our history books.

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<v Speaker 3>I the crap beat out of me when I was

847
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 3>a kid. I kid you not. I had we had

848
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:11.840
<v Speaker 3>just gotten into I was in military brat. My father

849
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 3>had been stationed in Germany as part of the occupation forces,

850
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 3>and they they allowed, the military allowed him to bring

851
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<v Speaker 3>over family. And I had barely arrived in southern Germany

852
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 3>and maybe two days i'd been there, was out walking

853
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 3>in the woods, met another military brat, and for whatever

854
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 3>reason at the time we were both kids, we got

855
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 3>into a fight and I was just thoroughly pummeled. I

856
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 3>mean like the guy had reached, he had reached. There

857
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 3>was nothing I could do right, And so my father decided, well,

858
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 3>this wasn't good if you got to get into fights,

859
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 3>you should learn how to do it. So he took

860
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 3>me to this guy who taught judo on base to

861
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.360
<v Speaker 3>soldiers but also did rent at judo dojo after hours,

862
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.599
<v Speaker 3>and he he said, well, you're too skinny for this, really,

863
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 3>so you got to put on some weight. So go

864
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 3>and do yoga. Eat a lot, do a lot of yoga.

865
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<v Speaker 3>And well, I had to start looking into yoga because

866
00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what the hell it was. I was

867
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 3>like ten years old. Bear in mind, this is back

868
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.480
<v Speaker 3>in the sixties, before yoga had had hit the airwave,

869
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.599
<v Speaker 3>so to speak. And so I looked into that and

870
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:25.639
<v Speaker 3>I did kano jiu jitsu. It was actually called This

871
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.239
<v Speaker 3>was in the early days before it was seriously named

872
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:33.639
<v Speaker 3>judo everywhere, and before it went into like the Olympics.

873
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.960
<v Speaker 3>That was sort of the split them in the early sixties.

874
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 3>In any event, though, because I started looking into that,

875
00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:43.119
<v Speaker 3>one thing led to another, and I started practicing yoga

876
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 3>at age eleven, along with doing martial arts. And it's

877
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.119
<v Speaker 3>a you know, sort of a mind opening situation.

878
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Very good, very interesting. Now based on that, would you

879
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>say that we live in a universe where there are

880
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.719
<v Speaker 1>other dimensions?

881
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 3>No? No, okay, Now see there's the thing we have

882
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 3>to I wouldn't say that because we would have to

883
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 3>first define what we meant by dimensions, if, for instance,

884
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.960
<v Speaker 3>one was to say to ask it another way, Are

885
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 3>there areas in life that we cannot perceive? Oh? Certainly,

886
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.559
<v Speaker 3>no question. Now do we define X ray band as

887
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:30.400
<v Speaker 3>a dimension? Do we define ultraviolet as a dimension? Do

888
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.599
<v Speaker 3>we define microwaves in all of their plethora as a dimension?

889
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 3>If so, then okay, I would have to agree that

890
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:42.599
<v Speaker 3>there are other dimensions. But then, if you're talking about

891
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 3>dimensions in the sense that we could somehow open up

892
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 3>a portal and slip corporeally through that portal and still

893
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 3>be corporeally available to ourselves on the other side of

894
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 3>that portal in some other dimension.

895
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:03.159
<v Speaker 1>No, so what are your thoughts on you know, people

896
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>saying that they can ash fu travel two different dimensions

897
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 1>and speak with different entities.

898
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a that's a different understanding of what's or

899
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 3>that's a representation that is not exact in the language

900
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:21.119
<v Speaker 3>as to what they're actually experiencing. Astral travel. Sure, no

901
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:23.880
<v Speaker 3>problem with that, done it myself, well aware of how

902
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:28.719
<v Speaker 3>that works. Other dimensions in the sense of consciousness, yes,

903
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:34.320
<v Speaker 3>those would exist, Okay, but then it gets really muddy,

904
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the reason being that humans are so in exact their

905
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:46.360
<v Speaker 3>own minds that mostly, which would be to say, nine

906
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 3>hundred and ninety nine percent of the time out of

907
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 3>a thousand, I mean, you know, just seriously, my new

908
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 3>fraction of the time we have our minds under control.

909
00:56:53.559 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 3>The rest of the time we could not tell the

910
00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 3>difference between our imagination and dimension. So most people, if

911
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.679
<v Speaker 3>they were to hear me say that, well, there are

912
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 3>other dimensions in astral travel, then they would have experiences

913
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 3>that they would assume meant they were going into another dimension. Now,

914
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 3>if you're talking about a consciousness perception that's not imagination,

915
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.039
<v Speaker 3>and we wanted to define that as another imagination, then

916
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:26.199
<v Speaker 3>I would or as another dimension. Then I would say,

917
00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 3>there is indeed such a thing. However, in order to

918
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 3>arrive there, one must pass through what we could label

919
00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 3>the dissolution barrier. And on the other side of that

920
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>dissolution barrier is a place that I would refer to

921
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.159
<v Speaker 3>as hyper space. I wouldn't call it a dimension per se,

922
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.159
<v Speaker 3>but truly in a sense of what we're talking about now,

923
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 3>about a place that our consciousness could go to and

924
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have to We wouldn't be corporeal, but your consciousness

925
00:57:56.440 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 3>could certainly go there. This hyper space could besidered in

926
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 3>all respects a dimension in the way that we think

927
00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 3>of it from TV.

928
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>So it would be possible to theoretically meet the consciousness

929
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of another being in that space.

930
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 3>It's possible, and I've done that with the assistance of

931
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:22.039
<v Speaker 3>psychedelic drugs. I've done it with the assistance of years

932
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:25.639
<v Speaker 3>of psychedelic drugs and then a hiatus and then years

933
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:29.199
<v Speaker 3>of meditation. So I've done it under two sets of circumstances.

934
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 3>I know that people such as my brother, who was

935
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 3>a full fledged schizophrenic, he's done it because of the

936
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 3>adrenochrome that floods your system and throws your mind out

937
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.679
<v Speaker 3>of whack when you're a schizophrenic, right, and I know

938
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 3>of a couple of other mental conditions that also caused

939
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 3>this to occur. And so in that sense, I would

940
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.760
<v Speaker 3>say that that's part of our reality, and anybody that's

941
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:59.239
<v Speaker 3>ever experienced that, especially through things like DMT or psilocybin,

942
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.920
<v Speaker 3>would with me when I say it is more real

943
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 3>than real. It's much more real to you, much more

944
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:09.199
<v Speaker 3>real and feeling than the material world that you and

945
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:11.639
<v Speaker 3>I are occupying and talking through right at the moment.

946
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 3>It's really spooky when you go through it. Now, in

947
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:19.360
<v Speaker 3>my experience, to get to hyperspace requires that the person

948
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 3>go through a dissolution phase. By that, I mean an

949
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 3>actual what psychiatrists might describe as an ego death or

950
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:31.480
<v Speaker 3>an ego dissolution. But it feels like when you're going

951
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:35.159
<v Speaker 3>through it, that your body is dissolving into atoms. Okay,

952
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.239
<v Speaker 3>and then then you pop out on the other side

953
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:38.199
<v Speaker 3>in hyperspace.

954
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting. Now, let's talk a little bit about the

955
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 1>entities you said that you came into contact with. Could

956
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you maybe describe that experience a little bit or those experiences.

957
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 3>Bear in mind it took place over a number of years, okay,

958
00:59:56.800 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 3>so there were a number of experiences. There were discrete

959
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 3>entities that were reoccurrent and persistent over the years, and

960
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:15.280
<v Speaker 3>then there are entities that may have been there reoccurrent

961
01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:18.039
<v Speaker 3>every time I went there, but you couldn't tell because

962
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 3>they represented themselves just as spheres. Okay, in hyper space,

963
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 3>you don't have a body, your consciousness is there. The

964
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 3>native most efficient shape for consciousness and universe is a sphere.

965
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 3>And you know, in all all different ways in terms

966
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 3>of energy specifically, though, it's easiest to contain your consciousness

967
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 3>and a sphere and not have to worry about the

968
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 3>little fiddlely bits that stick out right. This is true

969
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:47.599
<v Speaker 3>in hyperspace, So it costs you an energy penalty in

970
01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:50.880
<v Speaker 3>hyperspace to have a body other than a sphere. So

971
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:55.039
<v Speaker 3>hyperspace and my experience of it, was littered with sphere

972
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 3>spheroids that were the housing of various different consciousness, and

973
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 3>it was not possible for me to really see much

974
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 3>in the way of a difference from one sphere to another,

975
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:15.079
<v Speaker 3>excepting there were some whose behavior was so striking as

976
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:17.639
<v Speaker 3>to let you know that they were not so you

977
01:01:17.719 --> 01:01:19.360
<v Speaker 3>could pick them out of the crowd, so to speak.

978
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.960
<v Speaker 3>So bear in mind that this is a psychedelic experience,

979
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.360
<v Speaker 3>and it is filled. It's a place that is filled

980
01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:30.320
<v Speaker 3>with no boundaries, so there's no sense of a boundary

981
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.440
<v Speaker 3>between your body and the hyper space at all, and

982
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 3>yet it is filled with lifesound action, dynamic activity, seemingly

983
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 3>random dynamic activity, and individual consciousnesses within there that are

984
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 3>able to be stable within that environment, and some of

985
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.599
<v Speaker 3>them are friendly, so to speak, and they'll interact with you.

986
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Some of them are quite quite nice guys and very friendly,

987
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.320
<v Speaker 3>but very rarely. And then a lot of them are

988
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:08.639
<v Speaker 3>just basically indifferent to you or having such a terrible

989
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:10.639
<v Speaker 3>time on their own they don't want to be hassled.

990
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot, a lot that meet that latter criteria.

991
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:16.360
<v Speaker 3>So I think a lot of beings or a lot

992
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:22.880
<v Speaker 3>of consciousness houses like we are, somehow find themselves in

993
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 3>other worlds, other planets, and they get into a psychedelic

994
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.679
<v Speaker 3>experience and they don't know what they're handling and don't

995
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 3>know how to handle it, and so they pop in

996
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:35.079
<v Speaker 3>and they're just not able to deal with anything other

997
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:40.239
<v Speaker 3>than themselves in that gigantic space of vast quantities of chaos.

998
01:02:41.400 --> 01:02:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, did you ever encounter anything that resembled more of

999
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:47.079
<v Speaker 1>a being you could describe?

1000
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Sure? Sure, Sure, I've had I've had contacts with a

1001
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:57.320
<v Speaker 3>guy that was basically a hominid, had a much flatter

1002
01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:01.000
<v Speaker 3>face and a flat kind of a a forehead and

1003
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 3>in a flat sort of a flat top to his forehead.

1004
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:09.039
<v Speaker 3>And this this being had two eyes and nose, uh

1005
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:17.599
<v Speaker 3>smallish kind of ears, regular mouth, regular teeth, had very

1006
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 3>fine and uh, transparent body hair, just more or less

1007
01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:27.800
<v Speaker 3>like a like a human male. But this being had

1008
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 3>the unique characteristic of showing its emotions in like a

1009
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.199
<v Speaker 3>little aura layer that ran across the top of its skin,

1010
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 3>over its entire body. This being was psychic. It was

1011
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:40.960
<v Speaker 3>it was very It was a male I was talking to.

1012
01:03:41.719 --> 01:03:44.360
<v Speaker 3>We had no way of establishing a name with him,

1013
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.559
<v Speaker 3>and he he and I met several times over the

1014
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.199
<v Speaker 3>course of perhaps two and a half years, and we

1015
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.920
<v Speaker 3>we traded information and ideas. He was very interesting because

1016
01:03:56.000 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 3>of the nature of his expression in life, where his

1017
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:04.639
<v Speaker 3>emotions came out in this haze over his skin, as

1018
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:07.000
<v Speaker 3>did all the members of his species. And so some

1019
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 3>of the things you learn is that he's telepathic, and

1020
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:14.079
<v Speaker 3>then he's also telepathic at an emotional level because he's

1021
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:19.559
<v Speaker 3>literally broadcasting his emotions out throughout his skin continuously, you know,

1022
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 3>millisecond by millisecond, And so to someone else of his species,

1023
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.960
<v Speaker 3>they can read this because they've felt those same emotions

1024
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:32.480
<v Speaker 3>and complexes and what he called chords, like a musical

1025
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 3>chord of emotions before. And so there's no need for

1026
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 3>words in many cases if you're attempting to express an emotion.

1027
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:46.840
<v Speaker 3>So They have poetry without words, so really interesting concept

1028
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 3>when you drill down on that. Right, there's no words

1029
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.159
<v Speaker 3>in their poetry, but as far as we would consider it,

1030
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 3>it's exquisitely evocative poetry. And they have big contests, and

1031
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.920
<v Speaker 3>it's a big, giant national sort of or global sort

1032
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:07.679
<v Speaker 3>of a thing for their species. He's very intelligent, he's

1033
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:10.639
<v Speaker 3>very was very uh. I haven't seen him in I

1034
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know, forty plus years. He's not a local boy.

1035
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.960
<v Speaker 3>We were able to establish that from our relationship. He's

1036
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.679
<v Speaker 3>on the other side of the Milky Way galaxy from us,

1037
01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:24.920
<v Speaker 3>and that the hyper space that we entered into just

1038
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.400
<v Speaker 3>simply allowed the communication between us, but in no way

1039
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.679
<v Speaker 3>could establish a physical connection. It wasn't like we were,

1040
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, transporting ourselves there. But he was the one

1041
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 3>who taught me to project my body out in the hyperspace.

1042
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:41.559
<v Speaker 3>And he was very forthcoming with information, but he wanted

1043
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.480
<v Speaker 3>quid pro quo. And his problem, which I was able

1044
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 3>to help him out with, was that there the environmental

1045
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 3>conditions on his world were changing, and they had issues

1046
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 3>relative to how they built things and these environmental changes,

1047
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:01.519
<v Speaker 3>and insofar as I remember how it was described to me,

1048
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:10.159
<v Speaker 3>they were having like irradiation issues from local suns okay

1049
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 3>that caused various different kinds of atmospheric effects, and it

1050
01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 3>had never in their entire culture because and it's probably

1051
01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 3>because they projected their feelings out over their skin and there,

1052
01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.559
<v Speaker 3>and they had fashion, and they had clothing, but their

1053
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:27.960
<v Speaker 3>skin was hardened to the environment that they lived in,

1054
01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 3>so they didn't need it to stay warm or anything, right,

1055
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 3>they didn't need clothing for that purpose. And so for

1056
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 3>them fashion was something else entirely, more like what we

1057
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.320
<v Speaker 3>might think of as jewelry, as an accessory, you know.

1058
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:45.719
<v Speaker 3>But in any event, they never never dawned on them

1059
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 3>to develop surface coatings. And so so like I was

1060
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:52.559
<v Speaker 3>talking to him, and he and I had done this exchange,

1061
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and so I'd thought about his problem over the course

1062
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.239
<v Speaker 3>of several weeks. Next time I went on one of

1063
01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:00.440
<v Speaker 3>these journeys, I met him again and said, Ah, here's

1064
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.559
<v Speaker 3>your solution that exists, this possibility of taking various different

1065
01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 3>kinds of chemicals. And I had gone to the local

1066
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:10.159
<v Speaker 3>state library in Olympia and looked up various different ways

1067
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 3>of making paint, and so had in my head how

1068
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:19.280
<v Speaker 3>various things like silica and oils, oils being composed of

1069
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:23.719
<v Speaker 3>petrochemicals that or you know, could be created from animals

1070
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:25.800
<v Speaker 3>or plants, et cetera. Because I didn't know what kind

1071
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:29.320
<v Speaker 3>of conditions they had on their home world, right in

1072
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 3>his home planet. And so but it basically told him

1073
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:36.559
<v Speaker 3>the idea is to provide a sacrifice surface coating, and

1074
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:39.639
<v Speaker 3>then to make that sacrifice surface coating last a little while.

1075
01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:41.840
<v Speaker 3>You make it better and better and better, and you

1076
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.480
<v Speaker 3>put enough effort into it that it's not a sacrifice

1077
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:48.039
<v Speaker 3>every year to the irradiation, the solar irradiation, but last

1078
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:50.400
<v Speaker 3>ten or twenty years, that sort of thing. And so

1079
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:53.440
<v Speaker 3>they it was like, oh, he was just fantastically thrilled

1080
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:54.280
<v Speaker 3>with this idea.

1081
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Cool. Yeah, Now I understand you had a much

1082
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 1>different for an experience with a different type of being,

1083
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:05.599
<v Speaker 1>an insectoid being two.

1084
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:07.559
<v Speaker 3>Of them those critters, in so far as I was

1085
01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 3>able to tell and see there, you've got to be careful, right,

1086
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 3>because there's no way I could ascertain whether meeting of

1087
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.760
<v Speaker 3>being over the course of many different excursions, over many

1088
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.680
<v Speaker 3>different years, if it was the same guy presenting himself

1089
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:27.920
<v Speaker 3>in two different forms or not. So I had an

1090
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:32.039
<v Speaker 3>encounter with an old insect who was really pissed at

1091
01:08:32.119 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 3>me for being there, And then later on I had

1092
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 3>an encounter with a younger insect might have been the

1093
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 3>same one. It might have gone through some kind of

1094
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:44.079
<v Speaker 3>metamorphoses or time maybe goofy in hyperspace. So I may

1095
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.239
<v Speaker 3>have met it when it was very young and then

1096
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 3>met it when it was very old. If you met

1097
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.880
<v Speaker 3>that part of him first, I have no way of knowing.

1098
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I've always assumed it was two separate beings and that

1099
01:08:54.840 --> 01:09:00.159
<v Speaker 3>they were separated by many generations of bugdom, and they were.

1100
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:05.159
<v Speaker 3>They were very interesting things, quite quite the strange mind.

1101
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 3>So the guy with the emotions on his skin, you know,

1102
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:14.199
<v Speaker 3>whatever we want to call him, he's he's basically a

1103
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:18.800
<v Speaker 3>human and and has emotions and has a VGUS nervous system,

1104
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:23.439
<v Speaker 3>and you know, would get a stomach ache, you know,

1105
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:26.760
<v Speaker 3>could have those kind of ills that these sorts of things,

1106
01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:33.520
<v Speaker 3>and so he's basically a human. The bugs had no

1107
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:41.800
<v Speaker 3>emotional life, so or or another way. Actually, I don't

1108
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:44.560
<v Speaker 3>really want to put it that way. A better way

1109
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:47.159
<v Speaker 3>to think of it is that they have an emotional

1110
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:51.760
<v Speaker 3>life that consists of basically one note, just a single

1111
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:57.800
<v Speaker 3>note continuously whereas ours is multifaceted, multi corded, multi dimensional

1112
01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and multi multi rhythmic. They just have one and so.

1113
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.600
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I say that that they actually have

1114
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:07.439
<v Speaker 3>that one is because there's got to be something that

1115
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:14.960
<v Speaker 3>changes them from satisfied to dissatisfied. And and so something

1116
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 3>in there causes them, prompts them to act as the

1117
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:23.760
<v Speaker 3>environment around them changes, and something triggers them into a

1118
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:27.399
<v Speaker 3>sense of being dissatisfied, and then they react to that.

1119
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:30.960
<v Speaker 3>But other than that, they really don't have an emotion.

1120
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 3>And you get that from the mind. Now, these are

1121
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:40.359
<v Speaker 3>very powerful mental beings, okay, the insects. So the guy

1122
01:10:40.439 --> 01:10:43.399
<v Speaker 3>with the emotions on his over him, I could always

1123
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:46.399
<v Speaker 3>see a faint haze as he was projecting his emotions,

1124
01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:48.680
<v Speaker 3>just like his real body back on his home world.

1125
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:52.600
<v Speaker 3>But the detail that he was projecting of his face

1126
01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:55.720
<v Speaker 3>and his body would fade in and out as we

1127
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 3>were both distracted by what was going on, and the

1128
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 3>energy and his in his mind to maintain that was

1129
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:05.960
<v Speaker 3>shifted to various different focuses. Not the case with the bugs.

1130
01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:11.720
<v Speaker 3>They were always like, you know, basically their solid, you know,

1131
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.960
<v Speaker 3>no fuzz to them at all. And so the level

1132
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:17.520
<v Speaker 3>of the mind it took to project at that level.

1133
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:22.680
<v Speaker 3>You could you could feel the power when you encountered

1134
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:26.319
<v Speaker 3>them in hyperspace. And it's not like there's rooms or

1135
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:30.760
<v Speaker 3>divisions there, but it is as though you could if

1136
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:34.399
<v Speaker 3>you wanted to put your focus over this way and

1137
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:40.920
<v Speaker 3>just simply ignore anything over here and not have to

1138
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.399
<v Speaker 3>deal with energy going in your mind, section off this

1139
01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:48.279
<v Speaker 3>area into like focus rooms, so to speak, and not

1140
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.600
<v Speaker 3>have to deal with the bugs, if you wanted. What

1141
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.279
<v Speaker 3>really irritated this first older bug, and this is when

1142
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I was still a sphere I didn't really know how

1143
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to how to make a body at that point, was

1144
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:03.079
<v Speaker 3>that that he pissed me off. And I got irritated,

1145
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 3>and so I said, no, I'm not going to leave

1146
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:07.039
<v Speaker 3>because he you know, as soon as I popped into

1147
01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:11.119
<v Speaker 3>his focus room area, he he basically tried to use

1148
01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:14.159
<v Speaker 3>his mind. It pushed me out, and it like really

1149
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:16.680
<v Speaker 3>pissed me off and I and I was I was

1150
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 3>very into Aikdo at the time, so mentally what I

1151
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:22.359
<v Speaker 3>did was, even though I was a spear was I

1152
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.760
<v Speaker 3>just sort of grabbed his energy and rolled with it

1153
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:26.880
<v Speaker 3>right and just let it flow beside me. And I

1154
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.479
<v Speaker 3>was still there and so so I when he got

1155
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:30.960
<v Speaker 3>done with that, I told him, no, I'm not going

1156
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 3>to leave. He really irritated me, and I'm gonna stick

1157
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.359
<v Speaker 3>you right here until I've gotten some irritation back out

1158
01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:37.640
<v Speaker 3>of you. And then he was he was really pissed

1159
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.000
<v Speaker 3>at me after that, but he went about his business.

1160
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.640
<v Speaker 3>It's because almost instantly he realized that there was a

1161
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:51.520
<v Speaker 3>uh no net return of investment for energy trying to

1162
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 3>get me out, and he just went right back on

1163
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.000
<v Speaker 3>his on his and it was some kind of weird

1164
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:00.039
<v Speaker 3>laboratory he had going there, where he's monkying about with

1165
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 3>other bits of consciousness, and he went about his business

1166
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:06.279
<v Speaker 3>as though I didn't matter anymore. So I was more

1167
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.960
<v Speaker 3>of a minor annoyance in that sense than a spy

1168
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:13.520
<v Speaker 3>or a real threat or anything. So it's kind of

1169
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:16.840
<v Speaker 3>like I was sort of a mosquito in his world,

1170
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:18.479
<v Speaker 3>and he'd sort of tried to swat at it, and

1171
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.560
<v Speaker 3>then I'd flown off far enough and he wasn't willing

1172
01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:24.640
<v Speaker 3>to reach over there and pursue it. So quite the

1173
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 3>odd thing. Now, the younger one was different. He was

1174
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 3>per and I got the impression from the old guy

1175
01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:32.319
<v Speaker 3>that he was several thousand years old. Okay, you can

1176
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:37.279
<v Speaker 3>sort of, you can leach, you can pull information out

1177
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 3>of other consciousness if it allows you. So some of

1178
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:44.600
<v Speaker 3>the consciousness you encounter are really hardshell spheres, and all

1179
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 3>you get is whatever is observed in their behavior within

1180
01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:52.119
<v Speaker 3>that environment. You can't pull anything through, right. But if

1181
01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:54.920
<v Speaker 3>some of the consciousness, this is just the way I'm

1182
01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:59.199
<v Speaker 3>describing it, is involved in thinking about something else, they're

1183
01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 3>leaking out other bits of information that you can pull

1184
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 3>out and tease out of that mass. And it's a

1185
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:12.239
<v Speaker 3>weird process. It's hard to put into words, but like

1186
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I say, I got the impression the guy was, you know,

1187
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:20.159
<v Speaker 3>several thousand years old, and was like maybe a senior

1188
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:24.880
<v Speaker 3>research kind of a guy. They have no gender, so

1189
01:14:25.039 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 3>that was really weird. It's not like I think of

1190
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 3>them as male because they're they're ruthless and emotionally empty

1191
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:42.880
<v Speaker 3>in their cruelty, so they're cruel, but I don't think

1192
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:46.079
<v Speaker 3>they mean to be cruel per se, right, that it

1193
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.520
<v Speaker 3>just never would occur to them that they were being cruel,

1194
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:51.920
<v Speaker 3>or that our emotions mattered any in any way, shape

1195
01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.920
<v Speaker 3>or form. Like I say, the young guy was willing

1196
01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:57.800
<v Speaker 3>to trade. By the time I met him, I figured

1197
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.880
<v Speaker 3>out how hyperspace worked a little bit and knew it

1198
01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:04.840
<v Speaker 3>was a quid pro quo, a trade system. So, like

1199
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 3>the guy with the emotions, I traded him the idea

1200
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:10.119
<v Speaker 3>of surface coatings, and he told me all about emotions

1201
01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:13.640
<v Speaker 3>and how emotions are transmitted by the vagus nerve, how

1202
01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you can go emotions forward or backward in time, backward

1203
01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 3>not so much, but forward in time, and all these

1204
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.760
<v Speaker 3>different technologies of emotions that I had never ever ever

1205
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:28.600
<v Speaker 3>considered prior to running into him, And so he was

1206
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 3>quite happy to just spill all of that for me

1207
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:36.199
<v Speaker 3>because of this, you know, incredible, you know, Nobel prize

1208
01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:39.399
<v Speaker 3>level on his planet idea of paint.

1209
01:15:40.279 --> 01:15:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Right now, the the manted beings, you would actually describe

1210
01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:48.760
<v Speaker 1>them as looking like a praying mantis, right.

1211
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Nah, you get the impression of a mantis, okay, But

1212
01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:01.600
<v Speaker 3>but no, their body they're not swooped the way a

1213
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.800
<v Speaker 3>mantis is. They don't ride on their back haunches the

1214
01:16:04.840 --> 01:16:09.800
<v Speaker 3>way a mantis does. They don't really have the head

1215
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:12.760
<v Speaker 3>structure completely of a mantis. They do at a very

1216
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 3>base level, okay, but they don't have the the protruding

1217
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.720
<v Speaker 3>sensing antenna on top. It is true that their arms

1218
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.600
<v Speaker 3>are straight out in front of them. They have no

1219
01:16:23.760 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 3>shoulder per se. They've only got a range of motion

1220
01:16:26.199 --> 01:16:30.359
<v Speaker 3>that's that's basically up and down or or back and forth.

1221
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:37.399
<v Speaker 3>But there, But you call them a manta and lieu

1222
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 3>of something else. But but you could just as easily

1223
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.479
<v Speaker 3>call a ant Would you.

1224
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Say that we have had contact with extraterrestrials throughout our history, sure,

1225
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:57.199
<v Speaker 1>And would you say there's been some sort of maybe

1226
01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:00.000
<v Speaker 1>hand in our engineering.

1227
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:04.119
<v Speaker 3>No, very definitely there. We are not natural beings, and

1228
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:07.640
<v Speaker 3>there's something far more about that than most people realize,

1229
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and that is that eighty five percent of all of

1230
01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.359
<v Speaker 3>the biota on this planet that's not a vegetable and

1231
01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:20.119
<v Speaker 3>not a fungus is an invertebrate. So eighty five percent

1232
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:24.960
<v Speaker 3>of all animals on this planet have no spine, and

1233
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:29.319
<v Speaker 3>they've been quite happily developing and so on. Fifteen percent

1234
01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:32.399
<v Speaker 3>of the life on the planet does have spines. And

1235
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:35.039
<v Speaker 3>I think it's there that we begin to examine where

1236
01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:41.600
<v Speaker 3>engineering took place, and then you can sub set on

1237
01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:46.640
<v Speaker 3>how developed of a vegas nerve system we actually have

1238
01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:49.920
<v Speaker 3>in whatever our test subject is. So if you're looking

1239
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.199
<v Speaker 3>at reptiles, they have a very very very very very

1240
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:56.800
<v Speaker 3>simple vegas nervous system that in no way alters how

1241
01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:00.640
<v Speaker 3>they do things. Okay, so a reptile will simply respond

1242
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 3>to whatever the environment is is pushing at them and

1243
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:08.880
<v Speaker 3>their preconceived approach to you know, their instinct in terms

1244
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:13.600
<v Speaker 3>of a response fight, flight, or freeze. And that's why

1245
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:16.359
<v Speaker 3>we call that particular part of our brain the reptilian

1246
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:19.560
<v Speaker 3>part of the brain, right is because it has encoded

1247
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:22.680
<v Speaker 3>in it these three three modes of action. But we

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01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:26.199
<v Speaker 3>have something that the reptiles don't. We have something that

1249
01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:30.239
<v Speaker 3>the cetaceans, the all of the dolphins and whales, all

1250
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:34.439
<v Speaker 3>of those guys do. That is a vegas nervous system. Okay,

1251
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:39.600
<v Speaker 3>birds have a very minimal, very very very minimal vegas

1252
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:43.600
<v Speaker 3>nervous system, more advanced than a reptile, but hardly dogs

1253
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:47.039
<v Speaker 3>and cats, well dogs more than cats, have a very

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01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:52.560
<v Speaker 3>advanced vegas nervous system. Same thing is true of you know,

1255
01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:55.560
<v Speaker 3>the large predators, wolves and this sort of thing, and bears.

1256
01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.479
<v Speaker 3>A lot of the herbivores have a very advanced vegas

1257
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 3>nervous but it's very simplified. It's not what we would

1258
01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:08.920
<v Speaker 3>call polydimensional, Okay, it's very narrowly attached in terms of

1259
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.199
<v Speaker 3>where it goes to the spine, and where it goes

1260
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.399
<v Speaker 3>through the internal organs, and how it connects into the

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01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:16.760
<v Speaker 3>head with us. The vegas nervous system connects to all

1262
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:20.039
<v Speaker 3>of our senses, okay, so your eyes, your ears, your nose,

1263
01:19:20.119 --> 01:19:22.760
<v Speaker 3>and your mouth. So the vegus nervous system is connected

1264
01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:26.199
<v Speaker 3>to that. It's connected to your brain, and it's connected

1265
01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:28.600
<v Speaker 3>to all the glands in your head. All of the

1266
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:34.279
<v Speaker 3>pituitary gland, the thymus, the thyroid, the pineal gland, all

1267
01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:36.800
<v Speaker 3>of these are connected to the vegas nervous system. It

1268
01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:39.720
<v Speaker 3>goes down around on the outside of your spine. It's

1269
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 3>not part of your central nervous system. And then it

1270
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.640
<v Speaker 3>connects every organ in the body with the exception of

1271
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:50.359
<v Speaker 3>the adrenal complex, and it is rooted in the pancreas.

1272
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 3>So the vegus nervous system is the way in which

1273
01:19:54.479 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 3>humans have telepathy. So it's very unlike the kind of

1274
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 3>telepathy that the the emotional guy had or the kind

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01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:06.039
<v Speaker 3>of telepathy that the bugs have, because our kind of

1276
01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:10.520
<v Speaker 3>telepathy comes through our hormonal antenna, which is the vegus

1277
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:13.760
<v Speaker 3>nervous system. Our nervous system. Our vegas nervous system is

1278
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:16.039
<v Speaker 3>so complex that if you were to take it out

1279
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:18.560
<v Speaker 3>of the human body and spread it out, you'd be

1280
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:21.560
<v Speaker 3>able to cover several sheets of plywood with it. It's

1281
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:27.119
<v Speaker 3>just vast and it acts as a conduit for hormones,

1282
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.079
<v Speaker 3>and it takes serotonin from your gut, moves it up

1283
01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.199
<v Speaker 3>to your brain, takes adrenaline, moves it over here. It

1284
01:20:33.239 --> 01:20:36.119
<v Speaker 3>takes all these different hormones and moves those throughout your body.

1285
01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:39.880
<v Speaker 3>It is hormones that give us action. It's hormones that

1286
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:44.399
<v Speaker 3>provide us with desire and feeling from which we get thought.

1287
01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:48.800
<v Speaker 3>And without those hormones, we don't have a motivating factor.

1288
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:52.560
<v Speaker 3>And so it isn't we're entirely hormonal beings this way.

1289
01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:57.319
<v Speaker 3>And it is possible for one human to entrain their vegas,

1290
01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:00.680
<v Speaker 3>their state of their vegus nervous systemossible for us to

1291
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:05.279
<v Speaker 3>train our vegus nervous system to those of another human

1292
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:08.640
<v Speaker 3>in a very crude fashion. Okay, we don't yet have

1293
01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.000
<v Speaker 3>full control where we can turn our vegas nervous system

1294
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.159
<v Speaker 3>into a particular state we might want, and then broadcast

1295
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.079
<v Speaker 3>it out so that someone else could hook up with

1296
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:21.039
<v Speaker 3>us and ride the wave. Okay, the guy that I

1297
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.439
<v Speaker 3>met in hyperspace that had the shimmery emotions, their species

1298
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:29.000
<v Speaker 3>can do that, Okay. They can decide how they want

1299
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:34.359
<v Speaker 3>to feel and alter with their consciousness the hormonal balance

1300
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:38.199
<v Speaker 3>within their system, which then ends up projecting just the

1301
01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:42.079
<v Speaker 3>image of the emotions in these multicolored bands and hues

1302
01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:46.199
<v Speaker 3>and shimmeriness across their skin exactly the way they want,

1303
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:48.920
<v Speaker 3>very much like an artist would mix colors to get

1304
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.119
<v Speaker 3>just the precise color that they would want the nuances.

1305
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:56.439
<v Speaker 3>So this guy was like, that species is like elevated

1306
01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:59.119
<v Speaker 3>beyond us, maybe a million or so years relative to

1307
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:03.039
<v Speaker 3>motions in the Vegas nervous system and everything. Right, we're

1308
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:06.039
<v Speaker 3>really crude, but we have it within us to be

1309
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:08.640
<v Speaker 3>able to do this eventually, and we have proof of

1310
01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:11.760
<v Speaker 3>this on the planet right now a couple of different ways.

1311
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Sixty eight percent of all communication is visual. So beyond

1312
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:21.359
<v Speaker 3>the words that you have this initial impression of dealing

1313
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:23.920
<v Speaker 3>with someone, you get an initial impression on them that

1314
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:28.199
<v Speaker 3>does not exist. I mean that it isn't dependent on

1315
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 3>anything they say. So this visual impression the sixty eight

1316
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:35.159
<v Speaker 3>percent of the information that's communicated by all of that

1317
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:38.439
<v Speaker 3>that grabs you is doing so at what we would

1318
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>say a visceral level, a gut level, the viscera, and

1319
01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that visceral level is really referring to the vegus nerve

1320
01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:49.520
<v Speaker 3>There's some people you just run into and it's like, no,

1321
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:52.119
<v Speaker 3>I can't stand that son of a bitch and for

1322
01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:55.000
<v Speaker 3>whatever reason, you know, you don't even know the guy

1323
01:22:55.039 --> 01:22:57.560
<v Speaker 3>and you don't like him, and that's your vegas nervous

1324
01:22:57.560 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Speaker 3>system responding to his Now we take advantage of this

1325
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:05.600
<v Speaker 3>and you can go and look it up. The New

1326
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Zealanders and the Australians had this thing, and as did

1327
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:13.159
<v Speaker 3>the Swedish and the Norwegians. Now they didn't the Northern

1328
01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:15.319
<v Speaker 3>States didn't call it the same, but in New Zealand

1329
01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:19.880
<v Speaker 3>it's called the hakka. And the hakka is this complex

1330
01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:26.319
<v Speaker 3>emotional entrainment process among a group of guys so that

1331
01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:29.640
<v Speaker 3>they're all in trained mentally and they're all reacting in

1332
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the same level of high energy performance with very narrow

1333
01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:38.560
<v Speaker 3>levels of error because they've got all of their vagus

1334
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:42.399
<v Speaker 3>nervous systems all in agreement. And so the hakka is

1335
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:45.600
<v Speaker 3>from our outside viewpoint, a bunch of guys standing around,

1336
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 3>stopping their feet, making weird arm movements and yelling and

1337
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:51.560
<v Speaker 3>making strange faces of each other. But if you look

1338
01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:54.560
<v Speaker 3>at the group as a whole, you find that what's

1339
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 3>actually going on is, as I'm stating and in trainment,

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01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:04.600
<v Speaker 3>a sort of vegas nervous system telepathy, a group consciousness

1341
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.840
<v Speaker 3>that evolves from those people that are practicing this hakka.

1342
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:11.640
<v Speaker 3>And there's rules to the hakka in terms of how

1343
01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:14.680
<v Speaker 3>the New Zealanders have it, but there's also rules in

1344
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.880
<v Speaker 3>my sense of it as an entrainment device, how it

1345
01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:19.680
<v Speaker 3>needs to be, what you need to do in order

1346
01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:21.840
<v Speaker 3>to have it work. But it's very powerful and it

1347
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 3>goes along with the kia, the big voice in karate

1348
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:28.840
<v Speaker 3>and judo and all of that kind of stuff, right,

1349
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:35.439
<v Speaker 3>and the harmonizing or the projecting of your state out

1350
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.880
<v Speaker 3>into the into the world as a whole. So yeah,

1351
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:43.520
<v Speaker 3>so in that sense, we are telepathic beings, but we're

1352
01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 3>just not telepathic the way most people would think. Where

1353
01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:48.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm beaming over to you my hot dog.

1354
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Order right now? Do you think that this are telepathic abilities?

1355
01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And all these abilities are intentionally suppressed from us in

1356
01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.640
<v Speaker 1>a way, you know, just made to seem like it's

1357
01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just woo woo, it's not possible intentionally that.

1358
01:25:06.119 --> 01:25:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Speaks to I know that that is the case that

1359
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:13.119
<v Speaker 3>they are being suppressed. Okay, So I can agree that

1360
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:16.199
<v Speaker 3>indeed that there is a level of suppression on there,

1361
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:22.319
<v Speaker 3>But the idea of an intent would we'd have to

1362
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:24.439
<v Speaker 3>say then that instantly brings up the issue of who

1363
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.600
<v Speaker 3>and why, and I couldn't answer either of those, Okay.

1364
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:31.560
<v Speaker 3>I know that people might culturally suppress this sort of thing,

1365
01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:35.279
<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot of different reasons why they would

1366
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:37.840
<v Speaker 3>do it at various different levels. So if you look

1367
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:43.079
<v Speaker 3>at some of the photos and videos of Biden, the politician, right,

1368
01:25:43.680 --> 01:25:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you get the distinct impression that this guy is a

1369
01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:49.279
<v Speaker 3>slathering pedophile and that he's always trying to touch all

1370
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:57.119
<v Speaker 3>of these young kids, especially early pubescent females that are

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01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:02.279
<v Speaker 3>presented in public places near Now you also see that

1372
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:06.439
<v Speaker 3>the other males around him in his party and other

1373
01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:09.560
<v Speaker 3>parties will do things to discipline him in front of

1374
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:13.520
<v Speaker 3>the camera in very subtle ways. So they're aware of

1375
01:26:13.600 --> 01:26:17.920
<v Speaker 3>his activities, and they're not pointing fingers and calling them out,

1376
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.319
<v Speaker 3>they're not decking the sun of a bitch. They're not

1377
01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:24.079
<v Speaker 3>having them arrested because they have a vested interest in

1378
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:27.119
<v Speaker 3>his being in that position. And so they'll slap his

1379
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:29.800
<v Speaker 3>hand down, they'll push his hand away from their grandkid,

1380
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:32.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, they'll put their knee up against him in

1381
01:26:32.359 --> 01:26:35.199
<v Speaker 3>the in the background, that kind of thing, right, And

1382
01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 3>so they have an inbuilt profit motive, so to speak,

1383
01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:44.159
<v Speaker 3>for keeping him there, and they're aware of the behavior

1384
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:47.159
<v Speaker 3>and so on. But so is this part of some

1385
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:50.760
<v Speaker 3>larger evil plot to maintain his presence or is it

1386
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>just a natural you know, I can't rock the boat

1387
01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:56.520
<v Speaker 3>because my power is dependent on their power kind of thing.

1388
01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Now, I'd like to kind of shift gears a little

1389
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.279
<v Speaker 1>bit for the second half here. I'd like to get

1390
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on what's going on at CERN. There's a

1391
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:11.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of disinformation. There's you know, talks of their opening portals,

1392
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>they're talking to beings in different dimensions, all kinds of stuff.

1393
01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>What is really going on at CERN and are there

1394
01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>any implications that it could be dangerous for everyone?

1395
01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:28.520
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of indications it's dangerous for everyone. I

1396
01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.399
<v Speaker 3>don't know what's really going on there, and we would

1397
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.439
<v Speaker 3>have to ask the questions such as what's really going

1398
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:38.239
<v Speaker 3>on there? And then what do they think they're doing? Okay,

1399
01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I could actually state right now that what's really going

1400
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.279
<v Speaker 3>on there, insofar as we're able to determine, is that

1401
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:48.359
<v Speaker 3>they're failing. Okay, whatever their goal is, they're failing at it.

1402
01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:52.720
<v Speaker 3>And now we're talking about the large Hadron Collider, the

1403
01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:55.000
<v Speaker 3>big spinning thing under the ground. Because if you say

1404
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:58.199
<v Speaker 3>CERN SERN are the people that invented HTML and released

1405
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>it out on the Mason Internet nineteen ninety three or

1406
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:05.640
<v Speaker 3>ninety two, and so CERN is a huge organization, much

1407
01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:09.159
<v Speaker 3>of it devoted to atomic stuff. Right but CERN in

1408
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Europe with the Large Hydrant Collider, they're announced official idea

1409
01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:21.600
<v Speaker 3>of what they're attempting to achieve makes no sense. It

1410
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:25.079
<v Speaker 3>makes sense only in a very narrowly defined region of

1411
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.680
<v Speaker 3>physics that doesn't seem to have a whole lot of

1412
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:33.399
<v Speaker 3>support in larger academia. So it's curious that this is

1413
01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:36.800
<v Speaker 3>the largest machine ever built by humans and it's pursuing

1414
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:40.079
<v Speaker 3>this very narrow little band. Now, these guys could indeed

1415
01:28:40.199 --> 01:28:42.000
<v Speaker 3>figure that they're going to open up a portal to

1416
01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:45.600
<v Speaker 3>another dimension. They could figure they're going to create a

1417
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:51.840
<v Speaker 3>black hole. They could have any number of ideas, most

1418
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:55.079
<v Speaker 3>of which could never happen because their paradigm is goofy.

1419
01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>So if, for instance, these same scientists are of the

1420
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:05.760
<v Speaker 3>opinion that the Sun is a nuclear reactor of condensed

1421
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:09.359
<v Speaker 3>hydrogen and they were basing their all of their paradigm

1422
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.319
<v Speaker 3>of reality around that, then whatever it is they're doing

1423
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.479
<v Speaker 3>at Cerne will never ever ever succeed because their their

1424
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:19.239
<v Speaker 3>basic paradigm is flawed at a very deep level. Now

1425
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:26.000
<v Speaker 3>we know that they're trying to crash and create sub

1426
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 3>atomic particles, all right, I hate using that term. All right,

1427
01:29:29.079 --> 01:29:32.720
<v Speaker 3>so but let's uh, they're they're taking these little tiny

1428
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 3>bits of shaved off parts of atoms and they're smashing

1429
01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:41.800
<v Speaker 3>them into each other, and they're creating clouds. These clouds

1430
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:44.560
<v Speaker 3>are then analyzed by the computers. That's what the Large

1431
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Hadron Collider does is it basically smacks these two particles

1432
01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>in this little chamber that is is a camera. And

1433
01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:56.760
<v Speaker 3>when the two particles smack, the cameras recording this and

1434
01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>it and these two particles create these fractional lines everywhere,

1435
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>these spectrally kind of lines, vast clouds, little little tiny

1436
01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:13.000
<v Speaker 3>lines going every which way, and they're doing this thing

1437
01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:17.680
<v Speaker 3>constantly smashing as many particles as they can continuously, and

1438
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:22.920
<v Speaker 3>they're analyzing the resulting cloud photos for various specific parameters

1439
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:26.399
<v Speaker 3>that they hope to see, and what they're actually attempting

1440
01:30:26.479 --> 01:30:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to do is to like further refine our under or

1441
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.600
<v Speaker 3>what this would actually do is it would refurther refine

1442
01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:36.640
<v Speaker 3>our understanding of what an atom is, which gets us

1443
01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:44.359
<v Speaker 3>off into a real discussion here of like base electric

1444
01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:48.560
<v Speaker 3>universe theory, because within the electric universe, there is not

1445
01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:53.119
<v Speaker 3>a nuclear force. So when we actually take uranium and

1446
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:56.399
<v Speaker 3>we smash that atom and we split that atom apart,

1447
01:30:56.760 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 3>it's not an electric it's not a nuclear force. That's

1448
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:03.239
<v Speaker 3>released electlectrical because we're ripping the electrons loose from their

1449
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:07.800
<v Speaker 3>shell and ripping the protons apart, and so we're separating

1450
01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:12.279
<v Speaker 3>that atom and releasing its electrical nature that binds all

1451
01:31:12.359 --> 01:31:16.319
<v Speaker 3>of those bits and pieces together. So if they actually,

1452
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:19.159
<v Speaker 3>if the people ATCERN were aware of the electric universe,

1453
01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:22.199
<v Speaker 3>then what they're doing with the large Hadron Collider could

1454
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:25.439
<v Speaker 3>be interpreted in an entirely different way than if they

1455
01:31:25.520 --> 01:31:28.039
<v Speaker 3>thought that we lived in a world where the sun

1456
01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:31.439
<v Speaker 3>is this nuclear reactor as opposed to an electric arc

1457
01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:36.800
<v Speaker 3>electric plasma arc, because in such an electric universe, then

1458
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:43.399
<v Speaker 3>we know that the spectral lines, the mass spectral lines

1459
01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:48.680
<v Speaker 3>don't add up, never ever add up to the way

1460
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:51.039
<v Speaker 3>that the periodic table of elements would have you believe.

1461
01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:55.760
<v Speaker 3>So the periodic table of elements, for instance, has gold

1462
01:31:56.239 --> 01:31:59.119
<v Speaker 3>having an atomic weight of seventy nine, meaning that there's

1463
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:01.600
<v Speaker 3>this mass in there that's got seventy nine of these

1464
01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:04.119
<v Speaker 3>little critters in it, right, But if you were to

1465
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>smash gold inside the large hadron collider and smash that

1466
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:12.800
<v Speaker 3>molecule open, you don't get seventy nine little particles flying

1467
01:32:12.880 --> 01:32:16.239
<v Speaker 3>off in various different directions. You might get ten thousand.

1468
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:21.359
<v Speaker 3>So our understanding of atoms and what they are and

1469
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:24.359
<v Speaker 3>how they work and this sort of thing is very

1470
01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:29.079
<v Speaker 3>much mistaken at the level taught in mainstream academia based

1471
01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>on the periodic table of elements. So we might discover

1472
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:39.680
<v Speaker 3>that aluminum, for instance, aluminum might have just one base state,

1473
01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:43.960
<v Speaker 3>which is, you know, this is stainless steel, but you know,

1474
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:46.680
<v Speaker 3>just basically there might just be one base state. But

1475
01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:49.239
<v Speaker 3>if you were to treat aluminum differently, you might be

1476
01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:52.880
<v Speaker 3>able to get radioactive aluminum transparent aluminum like we saw

1477
01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:57.319
<v Speaker 3>on Star Trek, Aluminum that was soft and yet you

1478
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:01.000
<v Speaker 3>couldn't put your finger through it, Aluminum that could be stretched.

1479
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:04.279
<v Speaker 3>All of these things could be determined if you had

1480
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:09.800
<v Speaker 3>a spectral line analysis profile of aluminum that included every

1481
01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:13.079
<v Speaker 3>possibility of how that cloud would develop when the aluminum

1482
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:17.199
<v Speaker 3>particle was smashed up. That makes sense, right, yes, okay,

1483
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:20.960
<v Speaker 3>so in that sense, CERN could be used for that.

1484
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:25.239
<v Speaker 3>But we have to ask ourselves, where is the return

1485
01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:29.319
<v Speaker 3>on investment for taking such a huge proportion of the

1486
01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:33.880
<v Speaker 3>world's scientific dollars and putting them into the largest machine

1487
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:38.000
<v Speaker 3>ever built, with the largest number of people outside of

1488
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:41.840
<v Speaker 3>the Manhattan Project devoted to a single purpose behind a

1489
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:45.640
<v Speaker 3>quote scientific machine. Are they going to be Are they

1490
01:33:45.680 --> 01:33:49.920
<v Speaker 3>intending to set themselves up as our materials developers as

1491
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:53.720
<v Speaker 3>we go into the future. If so, well, then okay,

1492
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:56.159
<v Speaker 3>we would get a return on investment. All of our

1493
01:33:56.399 --> 01:34:01.039
<v Speaker 3>tax dollars being siphoned off to support CERN pay for something,

1494
01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:04.479
<v Speaker 3>because we'd get newer types of aluminum, newer kinds of steel,

1495
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:08.760
<v Speaker 3>newer kinds of plastic, if that's what they're doing. On

1496
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the other hand, like I say, they may actually think

1497
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:13.000
<v Speaker 3>that there's multiple dimensions, and that they're going to open

1498
01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:15.039
<v Speaker 3>up a portal into it and off we go.

1499
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:19.359
<v Speaker 1>Now, there are some thoughts that they could be in

1500
01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:23.119
<v Speaker 1>some way affecting some of the Earth changes we're seeing. Now,

1501
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think that's possible, Because I know we are

1502
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of Earth changes. I cover that, and

1503
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'd also like to get your thoughts on

1504
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>what we're actually going through right now with the uptick

1505
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of all the volcanoes and earthquakes and strange weather.

1506
01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all interrelated the Certain guys. Before we get

1507
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:47.479
<v Speaker 3>into the weather, we have to acknowledge that the Certain

1508
01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Guys are generating more electricity than any other project on

1509
01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:55.520
<v Speaker 3>the planet, and they're doing it with underground where their

1510
01:34:55.560 --> 01:35:00.720
<v Speaker 3>apparatus is buried into quartzite under a big kunk of Europe,

1511
01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:08.199
<v Speaker 3>quartzite being a highly conductive material, and so they're putting

1512
01:35:08.279 --> 01:35:11.600
<v Speaker 3>more electricity into the planet than anybody's ever done before. However,

1513
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I really don't think that they're actually participating in any

1514
01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:17.119
<v Speaker 3>of the stuff that's going on at a planet wide level.

1515
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:20.560
<v Speaker 3>They may be able to with the amount of electricity

1516
01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:24.800
<v Speaker 3>they're putting in tip certain conditions in a certain day,

1517
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:28.720
<v Speaker 3>but even acknowledging that these guys are vast electricity hogs

1518
01:35:28.760 --> 01:35:32.039
<v Speaker 3>and are shoving it into the ground, they're probably not

1519
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:35.600
<v Speaker 3>putting as much energy into the planet as we get

1520
01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:42.079
<v Speaker 3>from Let's just pick Matagascar, the island of Madagascar from

1521
01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:45.000
<v Speaker 3>solar energy, Okay, just because we get so much energy

1522
01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:47.520
<v Speaker 3>from the Sun. So I'm personally of the opinion that

1523
01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:49.640
<v Speaker 3>all the stuff that's happening on the Earth relative to

1524
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.439
<v Speaker 3>weather is one hundred percent related to the Sun. And

1525
01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:55.359
<v Speaker 3>I doubt the humans even if we took all of

1526
01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:58.119
<v Speaker 3>our cars, all of our electrical generation, everything we've ever

1527
01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>done concern I don't think we even come up to

1528
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:05.239
<v Speaker 3>a fraction of one percent. So, you know, especially with

1529
01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:08.720
<v Speaker 3>the sun now the sun is diming, we're going into

1530
01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:12.119
<v Speaker 3>a grand solar minimum. It'll be apparent in twenty twenty.

1531
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:14.359
<v Speaker 3>You won't be able to deny it. After the winner

1532
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:17.159
<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty. Probably, if you're smart, you're not denying

1533
01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:19.640
<v Speaker 3>it already that we're going into a grand solar minimum,

1534
01:36:20.199 --> 01:36:24.239
<v Speaker 3>a mini ice age. But by twenty twenty it'll be

1535
01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:27.159
<v Speaker 3>even the mainstream media will have frozen enough to be

1536
01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:31.199
<v Speaker 3>able to not deny this. Right, And we'll see two

1537
01:36:31.319 --> 01:36:34.960
<v Speaker 3>years by twenty twenty, where we've had just extremely cold summers,

1538
01:36:35.680 --> 01:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>and as a result of the dimming of the Sun,

1539
01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:43.079
<v Speaker 3>it's reduction of its corona. It's a plasma over around

1540
01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:46.520
<v Speaker 3>a solid body. It's an electrical plasma, and it's dimming

1541
01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:50.119
<v Speaker 3>from five thousand kelvin down to three thousand kelvin, and

1542
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:55.319
<v Speaker 3>that means that it's shrinking it's corona around the hard

1543
01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:58.960
<v Speaker 3>mass of the Sun. That means cosmic rays are coming

1544
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:03.319
<v Speaker 3>around it much further, much denser, and striking more of

1545
01:37:03.399 --> 01:37:07.560
<v Speaker 3>the planets. When the cosmic rays strike Earth, we get volcanoes,

1546
01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:10.560
<v Speaker 3>we get earthquakes because of the huge amount of energy

1547
01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:13.039
<v Speaker 3>that they're imparting way into the middle of our planet

1548
01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:18.920
<v Speaker 3>in our plasma core that is acting as an absorbing

1549
01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:22.479
<v Speaker 3>sponge for these cosmic rays. Now we're sort of the

1550
01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:26.560
<v Speaker 3>reverse of the Sun. So the Sun has a giant

1551
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:28.920
<v Speaker 3>plasma that has provided all the light and the heat

1552
01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:32.760
<v Speaker 3>and so forth for the Solar system, and it's around

1553
01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:38.039
<v Speaker 3>a solid metal core. On Earth, we have a solid

1554
01:37:38.159 --> 01:37:41.640
<v Speaker 3>crust and a mantle and everything on top of that

1555
01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:46.079
<v Speaker 3>around a plasma core. And so in that sense, we're

1556
01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:49.279
<v Speaker 3>the reverse, and we have these electrical interchanges with the

1557
01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Sun very predictably. So no, it's very clear as to

1558
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:58.000
<v Speaker 3>why hurricanes come at a certain time of the year

1559
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:00.720
<v Speaker 3>and never any other time of the year. That's because

1560
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:04.000
<v Speaker 3>at that particular time, which usually begins in August, we

1561
01:38:04.159 --> 01:38:07.279
<v Speaker 3>have this thing called the return current sheet of all

1562
01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:10.199
<v Speaker 3>of this returning electricity that goes from the Earth back

1563
01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:13.279
<v Speaker 3>to the Sun. Whenever the return current sheet starts up,

1564
01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:16.199
<v Speaker 3>electricity rises up out of that part of the Atlantic.

1565
01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:20.399
<v Speaker 3>The storms form because the electricity can't ground out and

1566
01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:23.319
<v Speaker 3>it's heading on its way out to the Sun and

1567
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:27.520
<v Speaker 3>it brings down oppso polarity electricity that wants to ground

1568
01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>out comes down in a circular fashion, and we get hurricanes.

1569
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>So hurricanes are entirely electrical. The only reason that the

1570
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:37.560
<v Speaker 3>water is warm is that they happen to happen in August.

1571
01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:41.319
<v Speaker 3>So but they're not happening because the water is warm.

1572
01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:45.159
<v Speaker 3>It's a correlation, not a causation, and so the warm

1573
01:38:45.199 --> 01:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>water is meaningless relative to the size of the storms

1574
01:38:49.119 --> 01:38:52.680
<v Speaker 3>or any of that. Many of the ideas that we

1575
01:38:52.840 --> 01:38:56.359
<v Speaker 3>have as humans are really kind of silly and are off.

1576
01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:58.760
<v Speaker 3>But if we understood a lot more of this, well

1577
01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:00.319
<v Speaker 3>then we might even be able to do. What the

1578
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:01.800
<v Speaker 3>hell that they think they're doing it.

1579
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Sir, Well, what do you see happening in the next

1580
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:08.159
<v Speaker 1>couple of years. You said that we're going to go

1581
01:39:08.279 --> 01:39:10.720
<v Speaker 1>into an ice age. Can you give us a little

1582
01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>bit about how that might occur?

1583
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's already occurring, okay. So as the Sun shrinks,

1584
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:21.479
<v Speaker 3>not only do we get more cosmic rays that come around,

1585
01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:24.680
<v Speaker 3>which striped parts of our atmosphere off, making us more

1586
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:28.439
<v Speaker 3>vulnerable to more cosmic rays. But there's also this activity

1587
01:39:28.520 --> 01:39:33.720
<v Speaker 3>called extreme ultraviolet. So as the Sun's corona shrinks, part

1588
01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:37.399
<v Speaker 3>of the spectra within that corona intensifies, and we get

1589
01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>this stuff called EUV. It started getting really serious. In

1590
01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:45.319
<v Speaker 3>about ninety six or ninety seven, we had it. Actually,

1591
01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:50.079
<v Speaker 3>we had this new type of UV ultraviolet rays. We

1592
01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>had this new type of light at a new frequency

1593
01:39:53.079 --> 01:39:55.640
<v Speaker 3>level touching the actual surface of the ground in two

1594
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:57.720
<v Speaker 3>thousand and two. As far as we knew, it had

1595
01:39:57.800 --> 01:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>never come down that far before. It was always bound

1596
01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:02.600
<v Speaker 3>off of the atmosphere. But in two thousand and two,

1597
01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:05.039
<v Speaker 3>it was so intense it burst down and actually touched

1598
01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:09.039
<v Speaker 3>the planet. Now it's happening all the time, so we

1599
01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:12.359
<v Speaker 3>have UV A, B, and C, which is this band

1600
01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:16.560
<v Speaker 3>in the ultraviolet spectrum. Now, as we go further forward,

1601
01:40:16.640 --> 01:40:19.399
<v Speaker 3>we'll probably get a UV D. Bear in mind that

1602
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:23.000
<v Speaker 3>as we get into the increasing letters, we're getting much

1603
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:26.960
<v Speaker 3>more intense frequencies, very much more amplitude and very high

1604
01:40:27.039 --> 01:40:31.640
<v Speaker 3>frequency ultraviolet rays which bring in vast quantities of energy.

1605
01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Causes a lot of evaporation out of the water. So

1606
01:40:35.319 --> 01:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>starting in two thousand and two, I was projecting we

1607
01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:40.199
<v Speaker 3>were going to have lakes in the sky, rivers in

1608
01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:43.680
<v Speaker 3>the sky that would create this in these incredible deluges

1609
01:40:43.720 --> 01:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>in a very short period of time. The reason that

1610
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:48.960
<v Speaker 3>they were occurring turns out to be the UVC. Now

1611
01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:50.680
<v Speaker 3>we're going to get a lot more of them. A

1612
01:40:50.720 --> 01:40:52.439
<v Speaker 3>lot more water is going to go up into the sky.

1613
01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:54.479
<v Speaker 3>It's going to come over to areas and fall down.

1614
01:40:54.600 --> 01:40:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Lot of it'll come down as snow, and it'll stay

1615
01:40:56.920 --> 01:41:00.279
<v Speaker 3>as snow. Because of the generalized dampening of the sun

1616
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:05.079
<v Speaker 3>in the diminuation of our temperatures, even at a small level,

1617
01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:07.600
<v Speaker 3>we'll keep a lot more snow around. Therefore, that snow

1618
01:41:07.640 --> 01:41:10.479
<v Speaker 3>will tend to build up. We'll get new glaciation, and

1619
01:41:10.640 --> 01:41:13.159
<v Speaker 3>Bob's your uncle were in an ice age. Now at

1620
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:22.920
<v Speaker 3>this point, the Russian astrophysicist Katerina Zarkova, I think her

1621
01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:26.119
<v Speaker 3>name is Katerina but Zarkova for sure, she has got

1622
01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:33.119
<v Speaker 3>a projection that has been a four component deduction of

1623
01:41:33.239 --> 01:41:36.439
<v Speaker 3>observe from observed behavior of the Sun. They've been able

1624
01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:41.680
<v Speaker 3>to deduce four particular components in a complex equation that

1625
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:46.239
<v Speaker 3>produces a three dimensional graph of the temperature as it

1626
01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:50.079
<v Speaker 3>relates to Earth based on the Sun's activity. So she's

1627
01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:52.560
<v Speaker 3>able to project that we're going to get the first

1628
01:41:52.760 --> 01:41:59.560
<v Speaker 3>year of risky vegetation light. Okay, So in twenty twenty

1629
01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:03.159
<v Speaker 3>eight will be the first year of four or five

1630
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:05.840
<v Speaker 3>years in which we may not get enough light on

1631
01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:08.720
<v Speaker 3>the planet to grow even a fraction of the vegetation

1632
01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:12.279
<v Speaker 3>that we're growing now. So that'll be the start of

1633
01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:15.159
<v Speaker 3>the famine period, if that is going to be a

1634
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.680
<v Speaker 3>determining factor in the famine. But we're going to have

1635
01:42:18.840 --> 01:42:24.600
<v Speaker 3>extremely cold winters and much cooler summers, so it'll be

1636
01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:28.520
<v Speaker 3>much cooler summers for the southern hemisphere and more or

1637
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:32.399
<v Speaker 3>less their normal winter, and then for the northern hemisphere.

1638
01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:35.279
<v Speaker 3>While while the southern hemisphere is having a much cooler summer.

1639
01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:39.000
<v Speaker 3>We're going to have brutal, terrible winters, and then as

1640
01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.119
<v Speaker 3>we go into our summer, we'll find that our summer

1641
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:44.399
<v Speaker 3>is just like blaw It's just it's very short. It

1642
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:48.119
<v Speaker 3>may be briefly intense, but in that intensity of summer,

1643
01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:51.640
<v Speaker 3>we won't reach anywhere near the record levels that we've

1644
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:54.680
<v Speaker 3>seen in the past. So they've been lying to us

1645
01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:58.880
<v Speaker 3>off of the National Climate Assessment here in the United States.

1646
01:42:59.560 --> 01:43:02.319
<v Speaker 3>You can tell they're lying to us because their results

1647
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:06.479
<v Speaker 3>only go back to nineteen sixty. Okay, nineteen fifty seven

1648
01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:08.880
<v Speaker 3>and nineteen fifty eight was the peak and the local

1649
01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:13.359
<v Speaker 3>or in the recent warming trend. But prior to that,

1650
01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the thirties and the forties and the fifties were a

1651
01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:18.760
<v Speaker 3>lot warmer than it was in the sixties and the seventies.

1652
01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:23.119
<v Speaker 3>And now so we're actually going down in this gradual cooling,

1653
01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:26.399
<v Speaker 3>going into this many ice age, and they're trying to

1654
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:29.600
<v Speaker 3>convince us that global warming exists by cherry picking data.

1655
01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Why again, why they're trying to convince us of the

1656
01:43:34.119 --> 01:43:38.479
<v Speaker 3>exact opposite of what our eyes are seeing and we're experiencing.

1657
01:43:38.680 --> 01:43:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why the governments and all of these

1658
01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.079
<v Speaker 3>people that are in the mega corporations and so on

1659
01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:47.720
<v Speaker 3>are trying to have vast numbers of humans freeze to

1660
01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:50.880
<v Speaker 3>death and not prepare. I don't know, why are we

1661
01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:53.840
<v Speaker 3>wasting our money concern when we should be trying to

1662
01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:58.319
<v Speaker 3>figure out how to grow food through a minimum and

1663
01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:02.359
<v Speaker 3>a grand solar minia. You know, I have no idea,

1664
01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:04.960
<v Speaker 3>but it'll be as bad as the Mander minimum. In

1665
01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:09.479
<v Speaker 3>the I think they called it the Dalton minimum. Okay.

1666
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Now bear in mind it was during these periods of

1667
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:16.760
<v Speaker 3>time in the sixteen hundreds in the eleven hundreds, when

1668
01:44:16.760 --> 01:44:21.159
<v Speaker 3>we had these previous solar minimums, that much of the

1669
01:44:21.840 --> 01:44:26.079
<v Speaker 3>chaos of our planet existed. You know, Rome falls in

1670
01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:31.039
<v Speaker 3>their time. Rome fell in a solar minimum, and because

1671
01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:35.720
<v Speaker 3>resources get constrained, Jengas Khan and the Mongolians moved out

1672
01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:38.680
<v Speaker 3>of their area because the snowpack and everything was destroying

1673
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:42.319
<v Speaker 3>their ability to graze. So vast quantities of changes happen here.

1674
01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Throughout these these periods. The whole German and Central European

1675
01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:50.479
<v Speaker 3>society shifted off of grains and started living off of

1676
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:55.159
<v Speaker 3>root vegetables and cuciferous vegetables like cabbage and so on.

1677
01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:58.039
<v Speaker 3>As a result of the solar minimum because you couldn't

1678
01:44:58.039 --> 01:45:01.359
<v Speaker 3>grow grains because your summer was too short. So all

1679
01:45:01.399 --> 01:45:08.159
<v Speaker 3>different kinds of social and species affecting changes take place

1680
01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:10.800
<v Speaker 3>in these in these minimums, and we're starting one in

1681
01:45:10.880 --> 01:45:13.760
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty, absolutely no doubt. If you look at Zarkova's

1682
01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:17.199
<v Speaker 3>numbers in the model, you know, you could probably pick

1683
01:45:17.239 --> 01:45:20.560
<v Speaker 3>out which month we're going to have the exceptional weather

1684
01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:21.359
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty.

1685
01:45:22.920 --> 01:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, how long will this period last? And you know,

1686
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of I guess what could people do to prepare

1687
01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and how bad will this get for people?

1688
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, it'll be very bad for some people and not

1689
01:45:36.600 --> 01:45:38.479
<v Speaker 3>so bad for other people. I mean, we can just

1690
01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:41.640
<v Speaker 3>make assumptions. Right, Those people that are in denial and

1691
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.279
<v Speaker 3>won't do anything will probably run up against a wall

1692
01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:48.520
<v Speaker 3>of having to try and maintain themselves based on government handouts,

1693
01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:51.359
<v Speaker 3>which won't be good because the government's going to lose

1694
01:45:51.399 --> 01:45:54.399
<v Speaker 3>more and more ability to control resources at all different

1695
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:56.600
<v Speaker 3>kinds of level, in all different governments. It just won't

1696
01:45:56.640 --> 01:46:00.399
<v Speaker 3>make any difference. It's going to last from well, we'll

1697
01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:06.079
<v Speaker 3>go from twenty twenty into probably twenty sixty one before

1698
01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>there's enough of a letup that will see a reflourishing

1699
01:46:12.039 --> 01:46:14.960
<v Speaker 3>of a social order, but it'll still be rather cold

1700
01:46:15.079 --> 01:46:20.880
<v Speaker 3>from twenty sixty one to up until twenty twenty two hundred,

1701
01:46:21.199 --> 01:46:26.880
<v Speaker 3>so about approximately one hundred and eighty years total. Well,

1702
01:46:26.960 --> 01:46:29.920
<v Speaker 3>it'll be affecting the weather, but from twenty sixty one

1703
01:46:30.319 --> 01:46:33.800
<v Speaker 3>it'll be a gradual warming up. We'll have seen most

1704
01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:38.640
<v Speaker 3>of the really nasty situations descend on us by twenty

1705
01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:41.119
<v Speaker 3>sixty one, and our climate should at that point be

1706
01:46:41.279 --> 01:46:47.000
<v Speaker 3>relatively stable, gradually warming again for the next one hundred

1707
01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and twenty years after that. Now, in terms of how

1708
01:46:50.840 --> 01:46:56.960
<v Speaker 3>we're going to prepare food, energy, other resources like medicines, clothing,

1709
01:46:57.079 --> 01:47:00.840
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, are going to be We're gonna have to

1710
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:04.560
<v Speaker 3>look at it very rationally, I think, and as a

1711
01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:06.840
<v Speaker 3>human I'm gonna have to say, can I count on

1712
01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:15.279
<v Speaker 3>getting you know, goose down coats from southern China? Well

1713
01:47:15.399 --> 01:47:19.720
<v Speaker 3>maybe not, you know, for whatever reasons political, geopolitical, economic,

1714
01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:23.199
<v Speaker 3>or resource constraints in the sense of you know, the

1715
01:47:23.319 --> 01:47:26.640
<v Speaker 3>snow clamping down and populations being shifted and so on.

1716
01:47:27.840 --> 01:47:30.479
<v Speaker 3>It won't be that. There'll be a lot of formation

1717
01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:32.600
<v Speaker 3>of glaciers and you'll have to run away from the

1718
01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:34.399
<v Speaker 3>glacier and you know that kind of thing. It won't

1719
01:47:34.399 --> 01:47:39.319
<v Speaker 3>be that sort of a mini ice age. There will

1720
01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:43.800
<v Speaker 3>be new glaciers and they will affect populations, but not

1721
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:46.399
<v Speaker 3>the way that the large ice ages and about twelve

1722
01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:51.800
<v Speaker 3>thousand years ago affected things. So for us, it's gonna

1723
01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:57.439
<v Speaker 3>be much more like not able to graze beef or

1724
01:47:57.760 --> 01:48:02.680
<v Speaker 3>sheep or that sort of thing in North America in say,

1725
01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:06.279
<v Speaker 3>from twenty thirty onward, And it might be you know,

1726
01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:09.560
<v Speaker 3>a decade or more before we're actually able to raise

1727
01:48:09.680 --> 01:48:12.920
<v Speaker 3>enough grain or grass to be able to go back

1728
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:18.720
<v Speaker 3>to being running herds. I mean that's a real probability,

1729
01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:21.560
<v Speaker 3>not a possibility. I mean there's actually some level of

1730
01:48:22.199 --> 01:48:25.079
<v Speaker 3>projection you can make as to statistically how likely that

1731
01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:28.359
<v Speaker 3>is to occur, because we saw it happen repeatedly in

1732
01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:32.600
<v Speaker 3>the last solar minimums, and we know from records here

1733
01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:35.520
<v Speaker 3>in North America that at the same time that the

1734
01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Dalton Minimum was forcing the populations of Central Europe to

1735
01:48:39.439 --> 01:48:42.039
<v Speaker 3>change over from grains, we had a very large die

1736
01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:45.119
<v Speaker 3>off of herds here in the US that were grass dependent.

1737
01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:50.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and is very concerning that people aren't being told

1738
01:48:50.439 --> 01:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>about what's going to happen and you know, not really

1739
01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:56.800
<v Speaker 1>being given a chance to prepare for this with that

1740
01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's going to cause even more problems as of

1741
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, just the lack of people knowing probably add

1742
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to the amount of loss of life.

1743
01:49:07.119 --> 01:49:10.800
<v Speaker 3>And sure, sure the butt heead factor right, If you

1744
01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>live in a town full of buttheads and there's something

1745
01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:16.479
<v Speaker 3>that triggers all the butt heads into rioting, then you

1746
01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:19.000
<v Speaker 3>could get hurt simply because they're butt heads and they

1747
01:49:19.039 --> 01:49:21.479
<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going on, so they might be, you know,

1748
01:49:22.359 --> 01:49:25.479
<v Speaker 3>set off by anything, and it's their ignorance, their paradigm

1749
01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:28.520
<v Speaker 3>that's setting them off. And yet there's still a danger

1750
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.760
<v Speaker 3>to you, and there's very little you can do about

1751
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:36.079
<v Speaker 3>that when you're dealing with mobs, and so it makes

1752
01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:40.199
<v Speaker 3>sense to do to react rationally, in my opinion, Either

1753
01:49:41.159 --> 01:49:44.760
<v Speaker 3>dedicate yourself to educating vast numbers of people around you

1754
01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:48.680
<v Speaker 3>such that you raise the general level of knowledge and

1755
01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:51.560
<v Speaker 3>lower the ignorance level you know in your area, or

1756
01:49:51.720 --> 01:49:55.399
<v Speaker 3>isolate yourself, or try and find another place that's more

1757
01:49:56.920 --> 01:49:59.920
<v Speaker 3>that's going in the direction of you know, acknowledgment of reality,

1758
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:04.720
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, and make sensible choices. You've got a few

1759
01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:07.680
<v Speaker 3>years all right, So between now and twenty twenty eight,

1760
01:50:08.199 --> 01:50:11.199
<v Speaker 3>we'll still have the ability to travel. At some point

1761
01:50:11.279 --> 01:50:14.279
<v Speaker 3>that will break down because of winter conditions lasting much

1762
01:50:14.359 --> 01:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>longer than anybody anticipated, and resource constraints and all different

1763
01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:22.279
<v Speaker 3>kinds of things. So as an instance, you know, get

1764
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:25.239
<v Speaker 3>a giant storm, the storm sticks around for three weeks,

1765
01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:29.199
<v Speaker 3>airports shut down, and even beyond the airport itself shutting

1766
01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:31.119
<v Speaker 3>down from the weather, maybe it can't open for another

1767
01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:34.319
<v Speaker 3>couple of months because refineries are damaged and you can't

1768
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.880
<v Speaker 3>get jet fuel. So under the circumstances that you might

1769
01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:44.720
<v Speaker 3>have whole regions of various continents that don't have travel available.

1770
01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:49.800
<v Speaker 3>This will become an increasing scenario increasing in everybody's life

1771
01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:54.319
<v Speaker 3>as we go forward. It'll impact things like vacations and

1772
01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.239
<v Speaker 3>cruise plannings and these kinds of things at a very

1773
01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:03.680
<v Speaker 3>undane or trivial level, but it'll affect things like medicines,

1774
01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:07.600
<v Speaker 3>logistics for transporting goods for sale, all of those sorts

1775
01:51:07.600 --> 01:51:09.720
<v Speaker 3>of things at a very macro level, and we'll all

1776
01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:14.399
<v Speaker 3>feel it in increased prices, reduced choices, and so on.

1777
01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:19.439
<v Speaker 1>Yes, definitely, And Cliff, I have one more question for

1778
01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you before we close out. Tonight, I was wondering about

1779
01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on five G and any possible dangers to

1780
01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:29.760
<v Speaker 1>us and what it could possibly be about.

1781
01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Five G is is an interesting subject, Okay. It is

1782
01:51:36.920 --> 01:51:43.079
<v Speaker 3>an ultra high microwave frequency. It's a very wide band

1783
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:47.239
<v Speaker 3>as a carrier wave, so it's very attractive to technology

1784
01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:49.760
<v Speaker 3>because you can put a lot of information on it,

1785
01:51:50.119 --> 01:51:52.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot more information on it than say a radio

1786
01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:56.000
<v Speaker 3>frequency in an FM band, right a lot. You could

1787
01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:59.479
<v Speaker 3>get a lot more information in a five G Wi

1788
01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Fi network, So we could have four K color both

1789
01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:08.680
<v Speaker 3>ways instant transmission, and a dozen spare channels with a

1790
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:12.560
<v Speaker 3>five G in lieu of Wi Fi. The problem with

1791
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:16.840
<v Speaker 3>five G is that its intensity is such its frequency

1792
01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:19.560
<v Speaker 3>is so high, which is what makes it an attractive

1793
01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:23.439
<v Speaker 3>bandwidth carrier, but its frequency is so high that it

1794
01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:27.960
<v Speaker 3>actually penetrates in to the human body. It penetrates in

1795
01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:32.359
<v Speaker 3>in a way that is very shallow, but can nonetheless

1796
01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>be very damaging. It is actually used in a five

1797
01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:39.199
<v Speaker 3>G is used in a laboratory setting to examine human

1798
01:52:39.359 --> 01:52:44.000
<v Speaker 3>DNA in thin tissue samples. Okay, they put five G

1799
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:48.239
<v Speaker 3>into all of the airports around the United States in

1800
01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:51.439
<v Speaker 3>the forms of those full body scanners, and we've had

1801
01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:53.840
<v Speaker 3>lots of people that developed cancers as a result of

1802
01:52:54.000 --> 01:52:58.319
<v Speaker 3>running those devices, and they're not an attractive thing and

1803
01:52:58.439 --> 01:53:02.640
<v Speaker 3>it's not a burgeoning trending technology. In my opinion, they

1804
01:53:02.680 --> 01:53:05.640
<v Speaker 3>may have put those things in there to determine who

1805
01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:08.520
<v Speaker 3>was human and who was not, because the five G

1806
01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:14.079
<v Speaker 3>being a DNA level reflective ray, not only shows you

1807
01:53:14.199 --> 01:53:18.199
<v Speaker 3>your body, but could bring back DNA information within that

1808
01:53:18.720 --> 01:53:21.520
<v Speaker 3>information being sent back to the scanner. You're just not

1809
01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:23.840
<v Speaker 3>showing it on the picture as all, but they may

1810
01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:27.079
<v Speaker 3>be actually reading parts of your DNA with that five G.

1811
01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:30.680
<v Speaker 3>It is dangerous as a wave to be around because

1812
01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:34.359
<v Speaker 3>of that penetration. It's not a mind control thing because

1813
01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:36.880
<v Speaker 3>it can't go through your skull. It could probably go

1814
01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:40.199
<v Speaker 3>through the epidermal layers on my bald head, but on

1815
01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:42.479
<v Speaker 3>your head with that hair there, a lot of it

1816
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:46.720
<v Speaker 3>would be dissipated by the hair itself, and so you

1817
01:53:46.760 --> 01:53:50.000
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have the same level of penetration there that I would.

1818
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:52.960
<v Speaker 3>But neither one of us could that ray actually penetrate

1819
01:53:53.039 --> 01:53:59.560
<v Speaker 3>in and affect our neuropathways and stuff. But it may

1820
01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:02.960
<v Speaker 3>very well cause all kinds of skin cancers, may very well,

1821
01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:07.920
<v Speaker 3>cause all kinds of eruptive blood issues, you know, hematomas

1822
01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:11.279
<v Speaker 3>and leukemias, this sort of thing, because it's very nasty,

1823
01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:14.760
<v Speaker 3>and in fact, it's used as a in its examination

1824
01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:19.159
<v Speaker 3>of DNA. You can use five G to like cut

1825
01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:23.520
<v Speaker 3>DNA sections. So it's that disruptive to it. It just

1826
01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:26.199
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have vast quantities of power, and that it's not

1827
01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:28.760
<v Speaker 3>like they're going to put up one big, giant five

1828
01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:32.039
<v Speaker 3>G antenna that's just going to flood the whole area

1829
01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:35.600
<v Speaker 3>with five G waves. That's the way it is with

1830
01:54:35.720 --> 01:54:38.399
<v Speaker 3>cell phones. You see, the cell phone towers are considerable

1831
01:54:38.479 --> 01:54:41.239
<v Speaker 3>distance apart line of sight. They might be twenty to

1832
01:54:41.319 --> 01:54:44.159
<v Speaker 3>thirty miles hilltop to hilltop kind of thing, and they

1833
01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:47.000
<v Speaker 3>still get a decent reception. Five G can't work that

1834
01:54:47.079 --> 01:54:49.560
<v Speaker 3>way because it doesn't. It has a lot of power

1835
01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:52.680
<v Speaker 3>in it, but it fades so rapidly. And so the

1836
01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:54.399
<v Speaker 3>way that five G is going to have to work

1837
01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:59.439
<v Speaker 3>is bazillions of five G repeaters everywhere, So it will

1838
01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:02.159
<v Speaker 3>be like in a stew of five G that's being

1839
01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:06.079
<v Speaker 3>broadcast around you from every different perspective in a city,

1840
01:55:06.399 --> 01:55:08.279
<v Speaker 3>in the sense of, you know, off of the walls

1841
01:55:08.319 --> 01:55:11.119
<v Speaker 3>of buildings out of the five G repeaters that will

1842
01:55:11.159 --> 01:55:13.720
<v Speaker 3>be put into every lamp post, that'll be put on

1843
01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:17.000
<v Speaker 3>every parking meter, that'll be stuck in everybody's house, all

1844
01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:19.319
<v Speaker 3>of this kind of things. So the intensity of the

1845
01:55:19.439 --> 01:55:24.359
<v Speaker 3>five G will be massively overwhelming. Now good news for me.

1846
01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:27.039
<v Speaker 3>I live out here in the coast right now, there's

1847
01:55:27.239 --> 01:55:31.960
<v Speaker 3>a probably ninety three percent humidity as it's raining and foggy.

1848
01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Five G won't operate. It simply is disrupted by water vapor.

1849
01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:39.119
<v Speaker 3>So anywhere you've got fog, you're going to have really

1850
01:55:39.159 --> 01:55:42.560
<v Speaker 3>piss poor reception with five G, which is protective of

1851
01:55:42.600 --> 01:55:46.079
<v Speaker 3>the people that are involved with it. But I suspect. Okay,

1852
01:55:46.159 --> 01:55:49.199
<v Speaker 3>this friend of mine who's a scientist, a former NASA scientist,

1853
01:55:49.279 --> 01:55:53.760
<v Speaker 3>and I'm really a spooky fellow, although very nice, he's

1854
01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:56.399
<v Speaker 3>of the opinion that five G will last as long

1855
01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:59.600
<v Speaker 3>as the first class action suit for skin cancer as

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<v Speaker 3>a result of exposure. And I have a tendency to

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<v Speaker 3>agree with them. It should be an extremely rapid degradation

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<v Speaker 3>of the humans that are involved in being around the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff all the time. And if we look at the

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<v Speaker 3>biochemists specifically that are involved or that go into DNA

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<v Speaker 3>analysis using five G, the insurance companies give them a

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<v Speaker 3>three year less lifespan than a regular biochemists. So an

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<v Speaker 3>insurance company thinks a biochemists has an average lifespan of

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<v Speaker 3>fifty five years, but if they mess with five with

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<v Speaker 3>the five G doing DNA analysis and biochemistry work at

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<v Speaker 3>that level, they've got a fifty two year lifespan. They

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<v Speaker 3>so even the insurance companies acknowledge this in their actuarial tables.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now you said, you said a lot there, but

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that caught my ear that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to pick up on next time. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to have you back on. That was some amazing information.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said that they may be monitoring people's DNA

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<v Speaker 1>to find out who's human. That's just right there. That

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<v Speaker 1>blows my mind. And I know we don't have time

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<v Speaker 1>to get into it. That that will definitely make a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting conversation for next time. And Cliff, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. That was, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic information. We're gonna have to have you back on.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, glad to yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you have a great night, Cliff, yep, same to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep your hair, it's you know protective. I'll try, i

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<v Speaker 3>will okay,