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today's episode. Disclaimer. The views and opinions expressed in this

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or any of the companies they represent. Now, this is

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going to be a very powerful conversation. We welcome to

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the show, Kaya Raw. Kaya Raw is a channel, but

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her journey in life is by far tougher than many.

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She was essentially born into a slavery human trafficked and

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what she witnessed will bring you to tea years to

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say the least. This is a very very powerful conversation, guys,

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so please let's dive in. I like to welcome to

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the show, Kaya Rahyd and Kaya Hi Alex.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm

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really looking forward to our conversation. I love the work

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that you're doing in the world. We're going to talk

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about your book, The Sofia Code, which there's a story

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and a half on how this thing was written and there.

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But before we get going, you know you do channeling,

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You've channeled, you channeled the book, you channel Descended Masters.

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I say this like such off the cuff because we

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talk about it so often on the show. A lot

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of people are like what, I'm like, It's something that

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we talk about a lot. But my first question to

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you is what was your life like before channeling? This

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insanity that is channeling and this whole world kind of

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came into your life because it's and I say insanity

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in the and most loving way possible, because channeling the

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other side is for a lot of people looking at

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it is this is insane, and all of that energy

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that comes along in channeling the other side and channeling

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this kind of knowledge with other people, it seems a

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little odd. So I'm sure it's throwing your life upside

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down left and right by doing this and coming out

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and all this kind of stuff. So what was your

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life like before this or was there a moment before

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channel No.

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Speaker 2: There was no moment before that, So.

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Speaker 1: Tell me how it started with you, like when you

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were born? What was your process coming up?

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Speaker 2: Well, and the preface of the Sophia Code, I share

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like a brushstroke of my early life and I'm a

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survivor of elite human trafficking. And I was born into well,

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it was a military program for psychically gifted children that

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was using a civilian front for children like myself that

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was born into these programs. So I was born psychically open.

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And my connection with the sent and Masters and the

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Angelic orders, I believe is what kept me alive really.

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Speaker 1: During that process. I've spoken to others about that program.

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Speaker 2: There are many, there are countless accountless many yes.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you then, and please say I'd

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rather not talk about it. I'm just gonna ask questions.

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So please, I want you to feel comfortable about it.

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But I mean, if you've spoken about it in your book,

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but with these, with these programs, you said you were

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born into it, what do you What do you mean

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Speaker 2: I mean exactly what I shared. There are programs that

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are specifically used to breed specific genetics and specifically for

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certain inherited gifts like talents in psychic development can be

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passed down generationally.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Oh so that's and and you were part of

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Speaker 2: So my true mother was extremely psychically gifted and she

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was used as a slave for this breeding program.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so sure, yeah, and this is

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Speaker 2: This is you know, this is something that happens in

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the US every day, but it's just starting to come

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into the public's awareness of how many covert black operations

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happen every day in this country with children and Satanic

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ritual and the use of children for their gifts and

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for their blood.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So how did you how did you escape the scenario?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, these programs aren't interested in adults. They're

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interested in children. They're interested in young adults. That's who

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they want to rape. That's their religion is, you know,

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stealing the consciousness and the bodies and the life force

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and the gifts of child. And so I believe that

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I'm alive by the grace of God. And there was

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a certain point in my early adulthood where I was

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still being watched and stopped. But you know, these when

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you're born into these programs, you're just inventory. So inventory

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always costs money to store, it costs money to transport,

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it costs money to maintain. And so if you're no

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longer being used as a child or a young adult

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in a program, that's money that they consider is being wasted.

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you know, many times you'll just end up zombified and

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walking away from these programs not even remembering that you

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survive them. Now, there's a lot of survivors now that

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are coming online that realize that they survived something similar,

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whether it was through the Masonic Order or you know,

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certain intelligence agency programs like the ones I survived. It's like,

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we're going to find out that there's a lot more

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survivors over the next decade then we actually realized are

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walking around in daylight. They just don't know. Most of

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them don't know that they've survived.

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Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of things are starting to

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come out. Oh yeah, this last twenty years, Over these

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last twenty five years, I'd say it's been slowly lots

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of areas, every single major institution around the world, from

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government to medical, to school to Hollywood to all of them.

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They're all the cracks. Religion, all of the cracks are

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starting to come out, and things that things that were

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talked about, like you know, I I was in Hollywood

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of the me too stuff. When I was coming up,

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I heard the rumblings of it of what you know,

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Weinstein was doing and these other guys were doing a

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lot of them, and I was just like, oh, it's

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like is that real? Like I can't believe. That can't

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be real. I didn't know a lot. I was just

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a young kid just coming up. But a lot of

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these things that were like conspiracy theories before are now no,

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this is real. Child trafficking is it's a horrible, serious

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thing that is being dealt with and in the US

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and around and a lot of these things that were

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considered fringe before are now really like no, no, here's

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the proof, here's what's happening. This is what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Like elite human trafficking. People think of human trafficking as like,

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you know, a massage parlor in Thailand. That's some gross

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guy visits, you know, on his vacation, and it's happening

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right here. And there's a massive hierarchy as far as

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like how slaves are taken in, how they're developed, how

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they're invested into what tiered level you're at in the

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slave system, you know, And a lot of these elites

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don't want to just rape a each child. They want

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to rape their own bloodlines because they're you know, just

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like just like they wouldn't want to eat at McDonald's,

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they want to eat it, you know, a really nice restaurant. Yeah,

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it's like they want to they want to rape their

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children put into secret homes that then end up getting

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trained in these programs for really high level missions jobs

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for the children that are forced to go out to

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you know, service if and if they're lucky to survive,

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because a lot of them men do up on a

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dinner plate. So, you know, my psychic gifts or what

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it wasn't the only thing that kept me alive.

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Speaker 1: It was God.

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Speaker 2: It was all of these this legion of light that

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surrounded me. But it also was my ability to see

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beyond the veils and to channel for myself for my

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own survival. And I was used as a channel and

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a lot of these rituals, I would be forced to,

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you know, speak on behalf of the souls that they

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would murder in front of us. And yeah, because they

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love that, they love they're just so sick. It's it's

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inconceivable how sick these people are and the kind of

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entertainment that they enjoy.

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Speaker 1: So when you when you finally were out of this

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this world and you know you were dealing with the

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trauma as I'm sure you're still dealing with it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a lifetime of healing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, We'll be right back after a word

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from our sponsor. And now back to the show. When

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you decided to start breaking your gifts into the world

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as light and trying to help people with your gifts,

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what time of your life was that, Like how old

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were you when you started to You made the conscious

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decision like I'm free now, I have these gifts. I

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want to help the world.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was hapened in stages. I knew that

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people handlers were keeping their eyes on me in my

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early twenties. I knew it because they would break into

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my apartment buildings or stock me at the university I

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went to. But I also knew that I was free

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enough to start getting an education, to start working, to

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start making a living. And I used everything in me

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to put my life back together, to get on a

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path of how to take care of myself, how to

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be an adult, and so along that journey. I was

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going to Emerson College in Boston, and I was living

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in downtown Boston and there was this amazing yoga studio

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back Bay Yoga at the time, and they were doing

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something no one. I mean, this is like over twenty

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and you know, they're teaching like seven different types of

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yoga and people were coming in droves. Like twenty years ago,

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you didn't go to yoga and forty five to fifty

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people were in the room every night, But they were

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because there was incredible teachers there that they were just

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they were just so generous, so empowered, and so open

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about yoga being a life saving practice. And at the time,

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you know, it was extremely wounded. I drank every day,

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chained smoked well, you know, just to numb the pain.

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I partied a lot, and something told me, get your

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butt into that yoga studio because I also had no

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control over my gifts and the things that I could see,

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or it was it was because I was in so

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much pain. It was more focused on the darkness, Like

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I could see demons on people. I could see darker

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entities that were you know, just praying on people, and

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it just was making my life feel really heavy that

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everywhere I went, I was seeing spirits and energies that were,

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you know, harming people, but I didn't I wasn't healed

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enough to know how to help them. And so I

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started going to this yoga studio every night after work

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and they would have back to back classes, and so

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I would go and spend four hours in yoga. And

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I did this for two years straight, and I had

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a full blown Kundalini wakening in the process, and I

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actually started to get I got an increase in my

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salary because of the projects I was working on at

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the company I was at, and I started traveling and

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learning from other teachers how to hone my gifts and

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skills because they genuinely wanted to help others with them.

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just really terrified of what I could see. And so

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it was through that asana and meditation practice that started

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to move some of the trauma out of my body

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enough that I I could really come back into alignment

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with my higher self. And then, at the age of

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twenty seven, had just full blown cornily awakening, and I

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legally changed my name to KaiA Raw because that was

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what my spiritual guides asked me to do. And I

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believe at that point, the part of my soul that

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I had survived what I had survived, started to leave,

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and the part of my soul that is Kaya started

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to almost like walk into this body. It was as

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though I was so damaged from what had happened to

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me that that part of my soul just needed to

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start to take an exit as more of my higher

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self or whatever. This other part of my soul is

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that's name Kaya, came into my body started the process

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of downloading into my body. There's you know, it wasn't

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probably until about ten years later that I felt like

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I was fully this I guess incarnation of myself.

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Speaker 1: When you were when you were younger, and these gifts.

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I mean, it's like I've talked to so many channels

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that don't have anybody to guide them at all. Like

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the voices start coming in and they just like, am

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I losing my mind? Am I going crazy? I don't

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think that that was your case. I think you either

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had someone around you good or bad in your life

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that was telling you what was going on with you?

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Is that a fair statement? Did you understand at least

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what was happening to you earlier?

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Speaker 2: I mean in those programs, yeah, we were being you know,

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so brutally trained and to access other dimensional realities and

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stretch our capacity for quantum embodiment.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this sounds like a Stephen King movie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm writing a novel right now about what

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I survived, and I'm actually going to publish it as

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science fiction because it's so over the top what I

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survived that I think people will be able to accept

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it more through that through the lens of fiction, because

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it's just that extreme. I just I just chose that

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extreme of a mission. But to answer your question, I mean,

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I have memories of angels and green Tara, Like I

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designed this pendant for a green Tara I'm wearing right

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now talking to me at the age of three, you know,

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as I'm standing outside my body, you know, after some

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near death experience, Like I have full memories of these

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beings teaching me how to navigate the amount of terror, trauma, grief, sadness,

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having no control over my body, how to manage that,

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and how to stay alive, and so I know that

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I trained in many other lifetimes as a channel and

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as an oracle, and I know that a lot of

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those lifetimes are in preparation for this one and to

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bring the Sofia Code into this world and everything that

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comes with the Sofia Code.

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Speaker 1: And we're definitely going to get We're going to dive

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into the sofa. Yeah, ignore in a little bit, so

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when I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. My

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understanding of the other side is that when we are

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souls that are about to reincarnate or incarnate into a life,

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there is a sole blueprint, a sole plan of what

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that soul is supposed to, you know, what the challenges

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they want on that and that lifetime. You know, Hey,

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I want to be rich, I want to be poor.

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I want to be you know this, Or I want

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to be strong, I want to be six foot tall,

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I want to be in this kind of the world

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because these are going to I want to go into

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this religion because it's going to teach me these lessons

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and all that kind of stuff. Is that do you

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do you have the same understanding or do you agree

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with that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we call it the mission what's your mission like right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm doing a little bit of it

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right now now doing the work that I'm doing. It

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took me a while to get here, but I'm here

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now and you're doing yours. So my question to you,

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and I asked this question for helping for people who

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are going have gone through trauma, or are going through

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trauma in their life. A lot of people don't understand

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why me, Why did this happen to me? Why am

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I going through this? Why did I get born into

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this family? I? Why am I? Why is this person

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abusing me or taking advantage of me? Or why is it?

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Can you explain to people why you think you went

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through this process, because when you went through is pretty extreme,

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and maybe with that explanation can help others listening why

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they're going through what they're going through and give them

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a little bit of understanding and peace.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did that so gracefully. Thank you, Alex. Yeah,

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it's really perfect. So I'm a big proponent of christ

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consciousness or anyway I was known as Buddha consciousness. I

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believe the soul is invincible, all powerful, divine, and I

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believe the soul makes some very powerful decisions before it

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itcarnates into human form. And so I know that I

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watched the entire movie of this life before I came here,

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and I know that I agreed to it and I

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said yes. And I know that as I watched that

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movie as a soul, I also wept. You know. It's

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like I think we think of the heavenly realities or

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the higher realms as a place so we don't feel,

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But that's not true, and the soul is designed to feel.

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We have a feeling intelligence. And part of one of

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the reasons why we love the masters, the saints like

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Yogananda behind you, is because there is so much feeling

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and compassion in their service and in what they have

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survived in their own journey of you know, helping to

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awaken others. And so I know that I chose this.

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I know, I absolutely know, without a doubt, I did

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not have to come in this lifetime. I know that

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I chose it. I know that I chose these circumstances

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for a very big mission to be a part of

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this global movement that's happening right now to expose elite

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human trafficking, but also to be a part of the

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movement of humanity reclaiming and activating its sovereign divinity beyond

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all of this criminal activity. It's like I'm here for

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all of it. I'm here for the full spectrum of

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awakening on the planet. I'm here to help people look

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at the darkness as I'm here to mirror back to

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them that they are the light. So I apparently my

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soul wanted, you know, a very very challenging mission. But

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I also know that when the soul chooses a mass,

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like a game theory of challenges, you're exponentially increasing the

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level of reward, like the volatility can actually come with

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a very high yield reward. And my reward is how

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many souls can I awaken while I'm still alive.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show, right And I think

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that's so important what you said, because so many people

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that are going through trauma in their life don't really

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understand the purpose of it. And I think that and

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I've spoken to many, in my opinion, walking saints that

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are here right now, living avatars who have been on

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there's been a handful on the show, but also people

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who have been connected to living avatars where people like

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a Jesus, a Buddha, a Yoga, Nanda, ababa g These

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these avatars, these saints sended me masters or masters are

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examples of what all of us can achieve are in

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our own spiritual in our own spiritual journey. This is

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That's why they came. They came to show you that. No, no,

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it's Jesus said it. Whatever I can do, you can

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do it. More like it's it's not the Kingdom of

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God is within you. I mean, these are very simple

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ideas that he was talking two thousand plus years ago

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where people were like what people are still like what exactly?

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But I and if I may be so bold to say,

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I think your story is an example of survival and

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also an example of what can be so like, well,

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if she's gone through this and is where she is now,

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this is an example of what can be done. It's

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the ten, it's the tent, it's the four minute mile,

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you're the four minute miles. Four Jesus is the four

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minute tel because no, yeah, because nobody could break the

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four minute mile until one guy broke the four minute mile.

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They said it was impossible, and the second he broke

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it thirty other people brought everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Yes, everyone's like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, is that it's possible to be done? Oh okay,

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then so you're you're a four minute mile from your

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life story and what you're doing your work, and all

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of us are acting as examples for others that things

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are possible to be done, but yours is a very

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difficult path. So I appreciate and honor what you are

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doing and have done in your life, My.

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Speaker 2: Dear thank you. I feel like it's important to share

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with your audience, with these wonderful souls that trust you

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and your work, that if there is are there, if

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there are souls that are watching that are suffering in

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their journey through recovering from trauma, I'd like to share

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that one of the biggest pieces for me was learning

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how to forgive myself, not how to forgive all of

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these men and women who raped me and murdered children

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in front of me. I had to learn how to

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forgive myself. Because when you make a choice through the

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perspective of your higher self and your over soul, you know,

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in the higher realms, and then you come down here

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to live out that choice on earth, those are two

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very different realities. There's the idea about it, and then

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there's the actual reality of what it means to be

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raped over and over again or beaten over and over again,

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or you know, sold over and over. Like it's one

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thing in theory, it's another thing in action. And I

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realized a couple of years ago, like I have to

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forgive myself for choosing a mission like this. And in

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that forgiveness, oh, I say it, you make peace with

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your purpose. You can't fully make peace with your purpose

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until you forgive yourself choosing the mission. I don't know,

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I feel like I need to say that for somebody

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who's going to be watching this video.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that, because that's a very powerful statement

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because it's one thing to like say, hey, you know,

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I chose a difficult life, and I, you know, I

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had I have I've had, you know, some trauma in

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my life where I, you know, got hooked up with

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the mob when I was younger, and uh, you know,

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unfortunately and went through a lot of deep trauma during

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that process. And I chose that. I chose that. So

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to think about that and other things that have happened

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in my life throughout my life, I've chosen those things

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if you look at it from that lens. Forgiving yourself.

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I never thought about that. It's just a power. There's

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a very powerful statement to forgive yourself for this journey

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because in this perspective of we're looking at it right now,

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you need forgiveness. On the other side, you don't need

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forgiveness for this journey because it was like, no, you

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just like you sat down and you're watching this film.

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This is the you signed up for this, you wanted

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this so but it's very difficult for us to you know,

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be that who are playing the game, if you will,

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who are actors in the movie going through it. It's

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very different than the screenwriter who wrote it. Very the

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soul is the screenwriter writing the story, and then you

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as the actor. I'm like, oh, I'll do this, I'll

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do this. But when you're in it, when you're in

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it and yeh, the mud is hitting you and and

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you know the fire is over you, and like, am

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I shooting this movie? Like Jesus that it's very easy

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for the writer to just go, yeah, this happens, this happens,

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and this happens. But for when you're in it, to

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forgive yourself, to have agreed to do. It is a

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very powerful, powerful tool.

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Speaker 3: I think I like.

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Speaker 2: To use a lot of like military metaphors, and I

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like to think about these kind of missions, is like

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we're boots on the ground. We're literally boots on the ground.

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We're literally like angelic soldiers on the ground of the matrix.

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And you know, the higher realms can't vote unless someone

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takes on the body. Higher realms can't can't intervene unless

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there's players in the in the actual physical game. And

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so forgiving yourself for choosing to be an active player

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in the game of Awakening, it's it softens the parts

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of us that might feel like what we survived is

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too much to forgive. M Sometimes things happen and it

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just feels like I don't think I could ever forgive

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that ever, right, But when you forgive yourself, you forgive life,

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you forgive God because you said yes, you know, it's

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like you're you're bringing love and nurturance to the human experience.

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You're honoring the one that survived even though your higher

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self said yes, It's like, let's bring some honor to

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the human vessel that survived and implemented the mission. And

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that I think is where we're headed in the next

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decade of spirituality is like, Okay, who cares? If you

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can channel blah blah blah, Like can you do human

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in a beautiful and powerful and grounded way that honors

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the human body, the human heart, the heroic human journey.

478
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,400
If you're channeling empowers that, then I'm all for it.

479
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,480
If it's all about getting off the planet and escaping

480
00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:46,039
the body, like, I don't have time for that. It's

481
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:50,559
not changing anything, and it's not honoring, you know, the

482
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really intense things that we survive here in this matrix.

483
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that you say that because so

484
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:58,240
many people are just like I just can't wait to

485
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,880
get out of this this game. You know, I want

486
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,480
to get out of this, especially when we're going through

487
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,559
the tough times. We've all been there. Everyone's gone through,

488
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,640
you know, they haven't gone maybe to the extremes that

489
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,440
you've dealt with, or even versions of what I've talked about,

490
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,039
but they've they've dealt with pain. Everybody deals with pain.

491
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,039
Speaker 2: Everyone, every universal.

492
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Every human soul that walks on this planet deals with pain.

493
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:23,359
And one more. Because you are dealing with a game

494
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,759
full of pain of other people dealing with pain, So

495
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:28,759
you will effect. Trauma will happen to you. Pain will

496
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,640
happen to you is not a question of if, but when.

497
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,920
But how you deal with it is the only thing

498
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,759
you can control in this game is that is the

499
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dealing of it. But when you're saying forgive yourself, so

500
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,160
many people and I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate here where

501
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,680
people listening will go, that sounds great kaya about forgiving

502
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,519
yourself or this this you know B I, T. C. H.

503
00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:59,200
Who did this thing to me or did that thing

504
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,119
to me? I can never be the monsters, the monsters.

505
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,279
Speaker 2: Actual monsters.

506
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, how can I forgive them? If? And I'm gonna

507
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,279
play Devil's Advocate here. Yeah, we all chose to come

508
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:13,079
down here, and those monsters on the other side say, hey,

509
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,279
I'll play that part for you. I'll help you on

510
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,200
your journey because I got a whole lot of stuff

511
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160
I got to work out, and that's and I'm gonna

512
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,799
have to pay for it, but it's something I want

513
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:22,839
to play. I'm going to play that part. I'm gonna

514
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,039
play Hannibal Lecter. I'll play Hannibal Lecter for you in

515
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,440
your life because that's what you're asking me to do

516
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,000
on the other side is that I'm playing Devil's advocate.

517
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Does that make sense. We'll be right back after a

518
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:41,160
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

519
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,799
Speaker 2: No, I mean you're talking about principles of Christ's consciousness.

520
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:50,480
I mean, ultimately, we all come from God. And there's

521
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:53,400
a whole chessboard on here, you know, in this matrix

522
00:30:53,400 --> 00:31:00,880
that we all agree to play on, and we agreed

523
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:08,000
to play out the game to what's the right word,

524
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,720
to deconstruct the evil and release our addictions to it

525
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:18,559
from it, so we can't When we experience something like

526
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,319
being raped and we say I forgive you to a perpetrator,

527
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,440
we are not in any way excuse me, We are

528
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,119
not in any way condoning the behavior or the sin,

529
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,119
or the trespass or the criminal activity of others. Sure,

530
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,240
of course, what we're saying is I have to forgive you,

531
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:43,200
to release you out of my life, out of my body,

532
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:49,039
out of my reality. But forgiving and forgiving someone don't

533
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:54,759
know what's going on here. Forgiving someone and releasing them

534
00:31:55,119 --> 00:32:00,200
is not the same as abdicating your experience of it.

535
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,000
To be raped is terrifying, to be raped is to

536
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,039
lose all control of your body. To be raped is

537
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:11,079
to be dominated over. It is not sexual abuse. It

538
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,160
is rape. There is nothing consensual about rape whatsoever. And

539
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,759
whether you are a man, woman, or otherwise, when you

540
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:22,440
get raped, there is nothing more terrifying, devastating, or shameful experience.

541
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:28,119
There's just nothing to describe how horrifying it is to

542
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,960
keep living through that memory over and over and over again.

543
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:39,160
And so when you forgive something or someone that's that horrific,

544
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,759
what you're saying is you will no longer control me

545
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:48,480
ever again. I will own my experience and I release

546
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:52,920
you for God to deal with you whatever that justice is. Now,

547
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,759
I'm a saying if someone if you can actually bring

548
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:03,799
someone to actual legal justice, you should like I'm not Yeah,

549
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,200
I'm not saying, don't.

550
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,359
Speaker 1: Do that, Karma. Let karma deal with it. Yeah, we'll

551
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:11,559
deal with it. Yeah.

552
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,599
Speaker 2: But in terms of if we're talking about the spiritual

553
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,119
principles and practice of forgiveness, it's a process of allowing

554
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,359
the perfection of God and life and the divine to

555
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:30,279
implement that justice so that you can move forward in

556
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,079
the liberation of your own heart. So even though we

557
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,759
all play these roles. That doesn't in any way.

558
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Speaker 1: Mean we.

559
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:49,599
Speaker 2: Minimize the impact that evil is evil. Yes, and I

560
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:51,880
find that that happens a lot in you age spirituality.

561
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,880
It makes me want to vomit.

562
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's it's I don't know if anyone else

563
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:03,200
has said this, but I'm using this phrase is toxic spirituality.

564
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:08,840
It's this this toxic spirituality of you know, butterflies and

565
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,960
rainbows and that kind of stuff. And there's a place

566
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,639
for that kind of stuff, and there's it's part of

567
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,280
the package. But if you only focus on that, then

568
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,280
it's not you're not seeing the wider picture because the

569
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,880
experience that we're here is not rainbows and butterflies. It's

570
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,000
not This is not the experience. This is not the journey.

571
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,199
You know, if you study any of the masters, especially

572
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,559
like you know, we've spoken about Yogananda a few times,

573
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:39,199
study his his path. His path was not easy. It

574
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,599
was a very difficult path for I mean, and it's

575
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:46,480
a difficult for any avatar who's walking the earth from

576
00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:49,480
where he decided to go on his mission. I think

577
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,880
around the same age as Jesus, around thirty or so

578
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:56,679
is when he decided to start coming to America. Going

579
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,679
and going this uphill battle and dealing with this and

580
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,159
trying to and he's just trying to help people, and

581
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:05,199
then people suing him, and people attacking him and literally

582
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880
running him out of town because they were afraid of him,

583
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,320
and and and then being and being what I'm gonna

584
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,760
call it, his best friend screws him over. Oh God,

585
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,679
he went through a lot in his life and all

586
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960
he wanted. He told God, He's like, I just I

587
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,960
just want to go back to India. They understand what

588
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,199
I'm saying. I don't have to beg them to meditate.

589
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,199
They understand like this, but that was in his path,

590
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,440
so that we all have to go through a very

591
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,639
difficult path on this earth, some more than others, depending

592
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:41,000
on our life. But uh, I appreciate everything you're saying here,

593
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:45,360
and I hope that people listening this old idea of

594
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,280
this new age concepts that are all butterflies and rainbows,

595
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:52,679
that's not the whole package. And I on this show,

596
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,000
I always talk about everything. I talk about, the good,

597
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,880
the bad, and the ugly. And that's why I give

598
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,159
a light to where you're talking about and story for

599
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,440
people to understand that, look, this is not we can

600
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:07,639
channel beings, we can talk to psychics, we can talk

601
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:11,000
about quantum physics, we could talk about ancient civilizations. That's

602
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:14,440
all wonderful. It's all part of the elephant. I call

603
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,199
it the elephant the proverb. I want to see the

604
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,880
whole elephant, and I'm trying to I'm trying to connect

605
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,920
it all. But that's not pretty all the time. And

606
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,159
that's okay because that's part of this experience and that's

607
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:26,920
what we have to do.

608
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for taking a stand for that.

609
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to try. It's not easy. It's not easy.

610
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,920
You know, it's not easy, But I hope it helps people.

611
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,519
And again, that's the mission of what I do, and

612
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:41,159
I think it's a mission of what you do as well.

613
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,760
It's just trying to help people walk through this path.

614
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,960
And I think you've noticed that too, over the last

615
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,840
even twenty years, that the world, the world is changed.

616
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,719
People are searching for this information. People are asking questions,

617
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:02,639
people are questioning institutions and religions and ideas, old ideas

618
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,519
that are not serving humanity anymore, that are being searched for.

619
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
They're searching for shows like this, They're searching for books

620
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,679
and teachings like yours because they're they're hungry, they're starving

621
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,079
to get the truth or at.

622
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,639
Speaker 2: Least Yeah, I think starving is an accurate word. Yeah,

623
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,880
starving is accurate for sure.

624
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: The media landscape doesn't give any there's not even there's

625
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,119
barely even fast food in this space as far as

626
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,960
spirituality is concerned, Like there's if it wasn't for shows

627
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:35,199
like this or books like yours that can guide people,

628
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,559
and they're getting more and more, but there's it's pretty

629
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:40,679
anemic out there still.

630
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Speaker 2: It is. And thank god that there are leaders and

631
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,159
authors and speakers and shows like this that are that

632
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,000
continue to pioneer even in the face of censorship and oppression.

633
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,679
And also just people don't even know how to be

634
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,800
interested in these things. They've been so much of the

635
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,559
population has been programmed to fear even being intuitive, let

636
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,679
alone psychic. And we're all born intuitive, we're all born psychic.

637
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's feelings we all get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all

638
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,119
yaind of So.

639
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're breaking down a lot of walls right now.

640
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,000
But wow, we've come so far. I mean, just like

641
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:23,119
we were talking about earlier, even twenty years ago, you know,

642
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,360
you said the word chakra. No one would know what

643
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,840
you were talking about unless you were in a you know,

644
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,360
a really prolific yoga studio happened to find something like that.

645
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:36,440
So I think it's interesting how quickly things are starting

646
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,159
to break through.

647
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,639
Speaker 1: Now, So let me talk about the Sofia Code a

648
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,280
little bit. What was your journey on bringing this this

649
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,440
book into this book right here, bringing this book into life,

650
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,679
because it's to my understanding you you channeled ascended masters

651
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,239
to bring this in. So who are these ascended masters?

652
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,679
I want to know? First? Are they? Are they the top?

653
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,039
Are the most famous ones. They're like, you know, the

654
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:08,800
backstreet boys of sality that everybody knows. Like.

655
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: Well, the first eight revealed, well, the first seven revealed

656
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:21,519
key codes are pretty prominent. And in the collective psyche,

657
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,920
you know, we've got a cinemester Isis and Hathor from Egypt.

658
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,480
We have Green Tara hailing from Tibet. We have Mother

659
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:34,960
Mary and Mary Magdalene from the mystical Christian tradition, and

660
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,679
we have Kwan Yin from Asia. And then of course

661
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,760
we have white buffalo women from North America. So it's

662
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,880
this these are larger than life figures that wanted to

663
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,159
reintroduce themselves to humanity in a very human way, in

664
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,840
a very relatable way, through the Sophia Code. Now, the

665
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,079
eighth key code that activates our by genome in the

666
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:06,719
Sofia Code is an angelic order, well called the Seraphim,

667
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,199
but there are for anyone who's studied angelic orders, there

668
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:15,119
can be multiple levels in an angelic order. And so

669
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:20,840
these particular serasom are dragons. They are these angelic cosmic

670
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,199
dragons that are part of birth and creation. I couldn't

671
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:28,760
believe it when I first met them. I thought to myself,

672
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:31,079
oh boy, I'm going to have to talk about this

673
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:33,519
for the rest of my life. That might destroy my career,

674
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:38,000
you know, being dragons and all.

675
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:42,599
Speaker 1: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

676
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,480
And now back to the show.

677
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Speaker 2: In my research, as I was preparing to release a

678
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,280
Sophia Code, I was in this little library in England,

679
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,599
in Glastonbury, and this book kind of fell off the

680
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:05,079
shelf and I thought, okay, my hair cells talking and

681
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:09,840
I opened up to the different mean like the kabalistic

682
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000
understanding of the words seraphim, and it was the fiery

683
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,679
creatures of God. And I knew in that moment that

684
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,559
I should stop doubting myself completely and that this was

685
00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:25,440
an important moment to reintroduce the Seraphim order back to

686
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:29,519
humanity for its awakening. Because in the Sypia Code we

687
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:33,760
call them the Seraphim a sovereignty. They embody the Holy

688
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,639
fire and light of the Divine Mother, which pierces through

689
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,000
the Luciferian agendas of this world. And the irony of

690
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:44,000
this is, you know, so much of the Satanic mythology

691
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,199
is often connected to like Reptilian aliens and all of that,

692
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,719
and it's just like, that's not what we're talking about here.

693
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:56,239
These are cosmic angelic Seraphim creatures, fiery creatures of God

694
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,679
that happened to be a part of initiating ascended masters

695
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,960
through eons of time. That's what they availed to me.

696
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,480
So that's our, that's our, like the easiest showcase. But

697
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:13,639
then the the overarching high Council is called the Sofia

698
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Dragon tribe. In these this high Council was gathered by

699
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,079
the Divine Mother of ordained and gathered by the Divine Mother,

700
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,119
organized by the Divine Mother, who we call Sofia in

701
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:27,480
the Sofia Code, but of course, Sofia is just one

702
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:33,719
name for God. There are countless names for God and uh.

703
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,039
These a Sended Masters represent the brightest and the best

704
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,079
who have served not just on Earth but in other

705
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:48,079
star systems the sovereign awakening of a species. So they

706
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:52,000
are experts on how to embody your sovereignty, how to

707
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,000
live in the divine light of your sovereignty. When you

708
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,960
choose that, it's just like the Matrix, Just like Neo

709
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,199
and the Matrix, you're literally really unplugging every part of

710
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,800
you off of the dependency and addiction of the Satanic

711
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,719
and Luciferian lives that are so prevalent in every in

712
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:12,119
the entire fabric of the world that we live in.

713
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,280
Everything's impacted by these agendas. So when you choose to

714
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,079
live in your sovereignty, like Jesus or Mother Mary or Kwanyin,

715
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,159
it's like you're making a massive statement. You're choosing to

716
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,719
be operated by your divine consciousness. And that's why we

717
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,280
mentor with the sen and Masters in the Sovia Code,

718
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,519
because we've got to we've got to have role models

719
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:36,360
for what that looks like.

720
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: Mm hm, you know exactly, Well, that's what we were

721
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,719
talking about earlier. We needed role models. We need to

722
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,119
see what yeah possible with these How did you deal

723
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,599
with I mean coming out of this coming out of

724
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:52,360
the closet I always called a coming out of the

725
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,440
spiritual closet in a in a big way with this

726
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:58,159
and with you know, the fiery creatures of you know,

727
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,360
of the other side and this kind of and you're like,

728
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,400
because I mean from you know, from our conversation, I mean,

729
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,679
you are definitely not so woo woo out there like yeah,

730
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:11,639
and then you know, I'm doing like, You're not that person.

731
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:14,599
You seem a pretty grounded person because of the things

732
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:19,320
you've gone through. So you your logical brain is going,

733
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,320
oh god, I gotta release, you know, I gotta put

734
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,679
this out there and then I gotta talk about this

735
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,880
for like the rest of my life.

736
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: And hey, am from the East Coast, man.

737
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,199
Speaker 1: I can tell the energies very East coasty. I'm from

738
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,320
the East Coast as well. So there's that, there's that vibe, but.

739
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:39,599
Speaker 2: There's that edge.

740
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: There's that there's that edge.

741
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:44,559
Speaker 2: You know how you're gonna get roasted for it, you know.

742
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,159
Speaker 1: So then how did so how did you have the

743
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,519
courage to say, I gotta do this because so many

744
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,280
people have are walking right now on that edge. I

745
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,320
had to deal with it with this show of like

746
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,079
being afraid of coming out fully into this show, and

747
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,239
and so many other people had to do that with

748
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,800
other aspects of their life. What advice do you have

749
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,639
for them?

750
00:45:07,679 --> 00:45:11,119
Speaker 2: When you are constantly facing death, you know, you just

751
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,079
really at the core of it, you just you know,

752
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,039
if you're here for a mission, you got to fulfill

753
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,039
the mission. If God sent you, that's who you're going

754
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:23,280
back to. Do you have enough near death experiences you

755
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,480
understand exactly where you're going back to, And you don't

756
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,280
want to go back and not and report back, Hey

757
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,280
I didn't I didn't actually do what I said I

758
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,320
was going to do. Yeah. Yeah, It's just like I'm

759
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,800
so not interested in that. When I'm living in the

760
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,960
company of ascended masters, you know, it's like it's.

761
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,519
Speaker 3: Not very cool.

762
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: You know, you got to stay on target. So and

763
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,239
I you know, and I I do have some pretty

764
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:56,559
stellar Capricorn placements that really keep me super focused, grounded driven.

765
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,880
I want I want these very high level metaphysical concepts

766
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,199
to be as relatable as possible, to be as effective

767
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:08,000
as possible, Like I love studying business and finance and

768
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:10,280
branding and marketing like I love these things. Just because

769
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,440
I'm a channel doesn't mean I don't love what's interesting

770
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:17,719
about this world and how concepts are communicated. So I

771
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,719
feel like God blessed me in that way. And you know,

772
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,599
the grit of the East Coast certainly taught me like,

773
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:27,000
no one's going to hand you roses for saying you

774
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,639
see you see dragons or dead people like they'll probably life,

775
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,760
you know, they'll probably be upset at you for it,

776
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,400
and maybe occasionally, well someone will bring a rose and

777
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,920
say thank you, that just changed my life. But don't

778
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,519
bet on the.

779
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,519
Speaker 3: Roses, you know, and do it anyways.

780
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,519
Speaker 1: So because you had a job, II though you had

781
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:50,480
a job, you had a career and you, oh yeah,

782
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:52,199
you walked away from this.

783
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,599
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I will the.

784
00:46:55,559 --> 00:47:03,039
Speaker 1: Secure, the secure world of writing books and talking about.

785
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: Because you can make a living off writing books. Yeah yeah,

786
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,679
books are just calling cards and bless them for being

787
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,199
the calling cards to our missions. But no, it was

788
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:16,920
you know, I I literally felt like I was dying

789
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,960
every day I had to live in corporate America. I'm

790
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,760
not judging America. I just personally felt like I was

791
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,760
dying while.

792
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: I was there and wasn't for you, wasn't for you.

793
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: And the thing is is like it trained me every

794
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,039
day to become the woman I am, to become the

795
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:34,760
business woman and the entrepreneur that I am. Like I learned,

796
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,199
I soaked in everything. I paid attention to everyone and everything.

797
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,480
I was taking notes and so I have a lot

798
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:49,960
to think for that that beginning. And I think it

799
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,239
also taught me that, you know, I didn't have anyone

800
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,000
explicitly saying to me, Hey, the world is run by money,

801
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,239
so you might want to be interested in it, but

802
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,440
you know, we're having the education and you know, the

803
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,760
willingness to work in that world. I saw how important

804
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,880
money was, I saw how powerful it was, and I

805
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,960
saw that they were also. There wasn't just evil people

806
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,639
moving money around. There were very good people in the

807
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:19,880
world moving money around and making powerful decisions. And you know,

808
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,760
I think it was the CFO I was working at

809
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
the time when I was in college, at this like

810
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,880
the oldest financial firm in the country. I was working

811
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,000
in their marketing department, and he found out that I

812
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,199
had to you know, pay for this very awful surgery.

813
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:38,320
I had to get ass. I flew to Oregon for

814
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:41,880
and he actually showed up at my desk and he

815
00:48:42,079 --> 00:48:45,480
was like, hey, I heard about the surgery, and I

816
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:47,480
just I just want to write you this check and

817
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,840
make sure you know that like we care about you.

818
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,679
I mean, I was like in my early twenties, I'd

819
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:57,239
never experienced anything like that, And I remember thinking, Wow,

820
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,519
I've never met a man in power that. Actually I

821
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,800
want to be a powerful woman someday and I want

822
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,440
to give it and I want to be able to

823
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,079
do things like that for people. And yeah, so I

824
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,920
have a lot to uh, I think. I think one

825
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,239
of my as an entrepreneur, one of the best pieces

826
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,000
of advice is like, don't quit your day job unless

827
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,880
you have to, like moonlight work towards it. Build build

828
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,360
the emotional muscle, the musculature of coming out of the

829
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,880
cluboset fully of you making a living with what you're doing.

830
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Like there's there's nothing wrong with having a second job

831
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,920
if it's the job that you really love. Like build up,

832
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,400
build up your passion, your client tele your network until

833
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,960
you're ready to like push that ship into the sea

834
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:49,000
and go on a new journey. Like we can be

835
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,239
practical about this. I think a lot of people are like,

836
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,760
I've had a vision, and therefore I no longer need

837
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,880
to be practical. It's just like God will provide. It's like, yes,

838
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,440
God will provide it if you also provide for yourself.

839
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,480
It's that old that is like a cocreative situation.

840
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: You know, right right. It's like the guy who was

841
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,719
on top of his house and the flood waters were

842
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,800
coming up and he's on his roof and a boat

843
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,199
comes by and he's like, God, please help me, Please

844
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,199
help me, Please help me a boat. A boat comes

845
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,599
by and they're like you can come in and like no, no, no,

846
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:25,079
God will provide. And then a helicopter comes by, like

847
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,599
we can you think. You're like no, no, no, God

848
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,440
will provide. And then he drowns. He goes up to

849
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:32,960
heaven and he goes, God, what did you say. I

850
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,079
sent a boat, I sent a helicopter. You've got to

851
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:37,039
kind of work with.

852
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,599
Speaker 2: Me here, Yeah, And that could be like I sent

853
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,239
a new client while you were working at your day job.

854
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:47,679
Like that could be the boat, you know. I you know,

855
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,679
as far as like facing the fears of what people

856
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:56,159
will say or do or think, you know, it's like, man,

857
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,199
I've had the worst defamition attacks. I've had people say

858
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,400
the most horrible things about me. I've had terrible heartbreaks

859
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,119
for coming out and being who I am. But at

860
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:09,960
the end of the day, when I go to sleep,

861
00:51:11,079 --> 00:51:12,079
I am myself.

862
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:16,559
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

863
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:24,400
and now back to the show. And you're happy.

864
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,599
Speaker 2: I'm happy because I'm being who I really am and

865
00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:29,679
I'm not trying to hide behind a desk or some

866
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,880
other version of myself that's not real. I can fall

867
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,599
asleep at peace with myself, and I can go back

868
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:37,239
to God at the end of my life and say

869
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,840
I did it. And I think that's the kind of

870
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,440
satisfaction that everybody really wants to feel. But you know,

871
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,760
maybe they just need to hear maybe this is a

872
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,480
part of them saying giving themselves permission. We're all here

873
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:50,920
to give ourselves permission. We've got to do that.

874
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:53,559
Speaker 1: The thing is when people talk about like, oh, what

875
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:54,840
are you going to think about what people say to

876
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,679
you or duty are You're like, yeah, in one hundred years,

877
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,679
no one cares, No one cares, no one in a

878
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,440
hundred years, no one cares. Alan Watts said this beauty.

879
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,960
And I've been using this put a lot on the show,

880
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,920
and I think it's so powerful. He goes, in one

881
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,880
hundred years, they'll be strangers in your house.

882
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: No one remembers the haters.

883
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,119
Speaker 1: No one remembers. I mean, they just won't remember. No

884
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:20,360
one remembers the haters. No one remembers this. And if

885
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,760
you're lucky, they'll talk about you in a hundred years.

886
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,559
If you're lucky, If you're lucky, someone someone is still

887
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:30,079
mentioning your name or your of your presence on one

888
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:32,400
hundred years, in two or three hundred years, if they're

889
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,239
still talking to you, talking about you, it's a miracle.

890
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,480
It's an absolute miracle because look how many people we

891
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:42,519
talk about in history and how many millions and billions

892
00:52:42,519 --> 00:52:43,800
of people have been on the spot of it.

893
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mother Mary, Mother Mary, and talks about it is

894
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:51,400
your legacy of love. If you know that you came

895
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,199
here to create a legacy of love, and you live

896
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,119
out that legacy every day of your life, care what

897
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:02,760
anyone says about it, Like honestly, oh my god, you're

898
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,159
giving such a huge gift to the world. Why would

899
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,719
you punish yourself with ankle biters?

900
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, and there's always and there's always an ankle biter, oh,

901
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,000
always an ankle.

902
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,639
Speaker 2: Bute, And those people are always the one that aren't

903
00:53:14,679 --> 00:53:17,239
actually making a difference. So just sitting in the sidelines

904
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,679
of life, honestly.

905
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: But because there are a lot of times people are

906
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:24,519
angry and if they see someone else succeed, they want

907
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:27,400
to bring them down. It's the crab in the bucket mentality.

908
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: And they have no idea how hard people work to

909
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,679
actually make a difference, Like it takes so many countless

910
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,800
hours and effort and willingness.

911
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,119
Speaker 1: And it's stories they tell themselves, and so stories they

912
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:42,239
tell themselves. So like if in my story, you're talking

913
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,880
about something that contradicts something in my story that makes

914
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,320
me feel comfortable with living in this game, and you're

915
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,039
saying something that's against that, oh God, I have to

916
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:52,920
have to defend it. So I have to attack you

917
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,199
as opposed. If you feel comfortable within yourself and going

918
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,400
what you believe has no effect on my life. I mean,

919
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,840
unless you're physically doing something to me or people I love,

920
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,360
it means nothing to me. You could believe that unicorns

921
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:12,119
run the world. Good for you. I'm all about it.

922
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:14,199
I wish you the best with that and let me

923
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,599
know how that works out later. But it doesn't affect

924
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,159
me or my belief system or the story I have

925
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,760
constructed in my life to allow me to work walk

926
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,280
forward in this journey. And the thing with me is,

927
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,840
I'm very open, So I'm always listening, always learning something new.

928
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,480
I'm like, Oh, there's something else I can use in

929
00:54:33,559 --> 00:54:36,239
my story. Oh there's something else I can use. Because

930
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,920
we're growing, we're evolving. You're not just because you learned

931
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,880
something when you were ten. I promise you, how much

932
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,639
stuff did you learn at ten? That is still true?

933
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,159
Even stuff stuff in the history books, for God's sakes,

934
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,639
was like No, that wasn't the way that went, you know.

935
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,519
So you're constantly evolving. Change is always there. So to

936
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:57,159
be open to change, to be open to new ideas,

937
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,760
that's how you evolve. That's absolutely how you have So

938
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:06,280
don't just don't listen to the haters everyone. If you

939
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,280
learn anything, if you learn anything in this conversation, don't

940
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,039
listen to the haters. They'll listen to. Let me ask you,

941
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,360
do you so you do channel right, so you are

942
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,000
able to connect to other energies if you will, like

943
00:55:20,199 --> 00:55:23,360
a Buddha, Jesus things like that. Okay, do you mind

944
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,599
if I ask one of these these entities a couple

945
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:29,400
of questions and see what they say. How would that

946
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,079
work with you?

947
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Let me just take a moment.

948
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: Okay, my and I don't know who who's coming through,

949
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,840
so you can let me know who's coming through, or

950
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,599
if it's a combination of a bunch of them. What

951
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,239
do you see for humanity in this next coming year,

952
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,679
in the next five years. So many people are afraid

953
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,639
of what's coming. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

954
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 2: There's two sender masters that are stepping forward, the first

955
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:04,000
of which is ISIS And ISIS is stepping forward to share,

956
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:13,480
which I believe is extremely obvious to everyone. But the

957
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:22,039
development of AI and robotics and how suddenly all of

958
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:27,280
this will seem to be integrating within our daily life,

959
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:34,239
within human life. But what isis is sharing is this

960
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,119
has been planned for so long that after the last

961
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,679
reset of humanity, this was going to be introduced, you know,

962
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:47,679
right now, and with Pluto moving into Aquarius, and she's

963
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:55,079
saying humanity has survived previous civilizations of this kind of integration,

964
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,400
and she's asking us a question. She's like, how do

965
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,679
you want this chapter to unfold? Do you want to

966
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,480
put your head in the sand again as in previous

967
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,400
generations of exploring this kind of technology, or does humanity

968
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:14,679
want to choose an awakened conscious path of how they

969
00:57:14,679 --> 00:57:20,280
are interacting with their development, that is, their technological development,

970
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,519
which is moving right now, honestly at the speed of light.

971
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:32,039
And so there's this invitation from a cinemestri isis where

972
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:37,079
she's asking us, how willing are you as a species

973
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:41,599
to start having higher conversations about how AI is being developed,

974
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,760
how robotics are going to be introduced into daily life,

975
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,880
and are you emotionally and spiritually prepared for that shift,

976
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,280
Like are you willing to expand your mind, your body,

977
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,199
heart and mind to have a conversation that has never

978
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:06,880
happened before for between humanity and its creations. So that's

979
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:12,719
the first step. The second step is Mother Mary stepping forward.

980
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:18,840
Thank you Mother Mary. Okay, And she's she's saying, we

981
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,440
went on this whole journey last year where I've channeled

982
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,360
all these new teachings from her about opening the heart chakra.

983
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,840
The manuscripts actually down the board behind me. I'm going

984
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,239
to be releasing it as a book, and Mother Mary

985
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:37,880
is sharing that there's there's going to be like a split,

986
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:40,800
which I think is very obvious to a lot of

987
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,840
late workers as well, over over the next over this

988
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,360
duration of Pluto and Aquarius, and it's those who who

989
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:57,079
choose the path of the heart, opening the heart chakra truly,

990
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:05,039
not as an idea, truly taking the time to go within, cleanse, clear,

991
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:09,039
and purge not just this lifetime of pain, but all

992
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,199
of your lifetimes of pain, to keep your heart fully

993
00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:15,480
open as a beacon, as a lighthouse of truth and

994
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:19,320
sovereignty and divine love in this world. She's saying, these

995
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,800
will be the liberated ones, these will be the way

996
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,119
showers who know how to hold the bridge of light

997
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:31,639
between those who are choosing an awakened sovereign paradigm and

998
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:36,920
those who are choosing to become even more enslaved by

999
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,800
the agendas of this world. So there's going to be

1000
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:47,480
an even more polarized chapter, shall we say, And the.

1001
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: Prayer.

1002
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,679
Speaker 2: The goal is that if enough truly awakened souls were

1003
00:59:57,719 --> 01:00:01,079
to live in the residence of that sovereign paradigm, that

1004
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:03,320
they could hold the light and they could keep the

1005
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,440
bridge open for souls that are choosing to somehow escape

1006
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,880
the level of oppression that is here and is coming

1007
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,400
at a greater level. Okay, so who else is coming through? Okay,

1008
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,000
this is a Sofia dragon. So the seraphim are coming

1009
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:25,400
through to kind of end round out this dialogue about

1010
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,679
our current moment in human history.

1011
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,519
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1012
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:39,679
and now back to the show.

1013
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:51,039
Speaker 2: Human being this And they're saying, there, the polarization that's

1014
01:00:51,079 --> 01:00:57,000
happening now is so extreme that it's actually a part

1015
01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:01,280
of seating the potential of a new goal age of ascension.

1016
01:01:02,239 --> 01:01:07,159
But so many light workers think of the possibility of

1017
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,719
a golden age of ascension is something that could happen overnight,

1018
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,519
or something that could happen, you know, in a blink

1019
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,760
without a lot of effort. And the dragons are asking,

1020
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,159
what does it take to truly embody your sovereignty as

1021
01:01:28,159 --> 01:01:32,119
a species? What does it take to truly embody your

1022
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:37,360
sovereignty as a single person as an individual? What kind

1023
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:42,000
of willingness is required to usher in the levels of

1024
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:49,320
ascension that your species is so desperately praying for. And

1025
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,480
we're at a place in quantum reality, where the word

1026
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,800
willingness needs to be our mantra befo, we're going to

1027
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,480
make that quantum leap into a more enlightened and awakened

1028
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:11,000
error for humanity. We must be willing to do what

1029
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:13,519
is ours to do. Each of us came here with

1030
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:17,559
a divine purpose to fulfill, and we, each, each of

1031
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:21,280
our divine purposes, complete each other like a puzzle. And

1032
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:28,000
willingness is going to be the deciding factor of the

1033
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:32,159
breadth and scope of that sovereign new paradigm that is

1034
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,840
emerging at this time. But everything that is being built

1035
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,960
must be sustained, and then once sustained, it needs to

1036
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,280
continue to expand, and that takes many hands of many hearts.

1037
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,000
And so the sended Masters are offering to us at

1038
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,880
this time that if we truly want what we say

1039
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,280
we want, we must be willing to show up and

1040
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,559
be what we want.

1041
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,239
Speaker 1: Beautifully said. Beautifully said. If you can ask, isis because

1042
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,760
she brought this up when we were talking about the

1043
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,239
reset of humanity, that there's been multiple resets in the past.

1044
01:03:07,559 --> 01:03:12,599
Can she clarify what that means? Is that the younger Driest,

1045
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:14,920
which was twelve thousand years ago was the last reset

1046
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,159
with Atlantis and that kind of time period that I'd

1047
01:03:18,199 --> 01:03:20,639
love to hear, What how many times we've been reset

1048
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:23,920
as a species to come back there again and again?

1049
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:27,039
Speaker 2: There are too many resets to count. They were telling

1050
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,639
like in that movie The Matrix, they were telling the

1051
01:03:29,719 --> 01:03:31,039
truth on themselves.

1052
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,719
Speaker 1: Oh because the Matrix, Yeah, they've they've used the same

1053
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:37,480
code a thousand times or something like that.

1054
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, when Neo is confronting the architect, he's like, how

1055
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:48,199
many times have I been Neo? It's like that. That's

1056
01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:53,679
the level of like people like, people go back to

1057
01:03:53,719 --> 01:03:57,559
the reset that's the most memorable and the collective memory,

1058
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:59,920
because that's about as much as they can handle, because

1059
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:03,840
it's so terrifying to think that, like maybe every hundred years,

1060
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,119
humanity is reset and doesn't even know it.

1061
01:04:08,119 --> 01:04:08,679
Speaker 1: Interesting.

1062
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:13,079
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how traumatic that would be to constantly

1063
01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:21,280
think about a set of controllers just really hitting a

1064
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,079
button and everyone's gone and it's reset over and over again.

1065
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,800
How do you live your life with that level of

1066
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:32,880
annihilation consciousness? So it's more comfortable for humanity to think.

1067
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 3: Oh, that was thirty thousand years ago.

1068
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: In Atlantis, and it's like hmm, how about like one

1069
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,079
hundred years ago, you know, how about like one hundred

1070
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:45,480
years before that. And that's how powerful these controllers are

1071
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,519
recreating the simulation, the similacrum of our physical reality. It's

1072
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:50,199
super sick.

1073
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:56,159
Speaker 1: It's interesting, it's very very interesting. All right. So my

1074
01:04:57,159 --> 01:04:59,639
next question is we've spoken about age.

1075
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: Do you speak in the words of isis? Because that

1076
01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:05,880
was a lot of my own interpretation of what she's

1077
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:06,400
shown me.

1078
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:12,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1079
01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: Part of the great awakening that is coming over the

1080
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,920
next decade is for humanity to understand how traumatized it

1081
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:27,079
has been with so many resets of its reality that

1082
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,199
what does a reset do? It disorients a species from

1083
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:35,679
knowing its true origins, what does a reset do disorients

1084
01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:39,920
a species from its own personal power and sense of

1085
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,519
placement in the universe, not just in the world, not

1086
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:49,599
just here on this planet. And so to humanity must

1087
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:52,800
come into a level of healing and wholeness enough to

1088
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,599
even be able to start to face the level of

1089
01:05:56,639 --> 01:06:01,719
control and trauma that it has survived of genetic mutilation.

1090
01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:07,519
It has survived with countless resets over the past hundreds

1091
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:15,079
of thousands of years on the planet. And she's saying,

1092
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:22,199
you can take heart in the fact that we're still here,

1093
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:26,639
like these masters of light are still here, working steadily

1094
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:31,599
and faithfully towards humanity's ascension beyond this enslavement. They haven't

1095
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,360
gone anywhere. And it's why souls such as star seeds

1096
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,199
and light workers choose to come back again and again

1097
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,199
because we see the time looping that's happening here and

1098
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:43,519
we want to break the loop.

1099
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes that makes sense.

1100
01:06:48,519 --> 01:06:53,159
Speaker 2: So it's like, sorry, sorry, new age Rosie posy world,

1101
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:59,599
Like it's we worse and at the same time and

1102
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:02,840
better because what does this prove to us? It shows

1103
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:08,320
us as a supirit coatures, we have these invincible souls

1104
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,840
of light and divine power that can keep coming in

1105
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:16,079
their dropping down into this matrix, to keep sharing the truth,

1106
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:19,519
to keep waking people up. And it is making a difference.

1107
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:24,800
It is making an impact. Like what's more important isis

1108
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,559
is saying the form or the soul?

1109
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:31,199
Speaker 1: The soul the soul?

1110
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,119
Speaker 2: So if a world is decimated but billions of souls

1111
01:07:35,159 --> 01:07:41,880
are saved, what's more important? It's an interesting question. Again, sorry,

1112
01:07:42,119 --> 01:07:43,920
not the normal New Age thing to say, but.

1113
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, of course, of course, so then let me ask

1114
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,719
you this because this is a kind of a catchphrase

1115
01:07:49,719 --> 01:07:52,559
that it's been thrown around since the days of Buddha,

1116
01:07:52,599 --> 01:07:59,000
which is enlightenment. How does the ascendant masters define enlightenment

1117
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:02,480
or spiritual awakening? And because it's a lot of people

1118
01:08:02,519 --> 01:08:04,400
think you have to sit in front of underneath the

1119
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:08,239
abandon tree and wait until enlightenment comes, and you just oh,

1120
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:10,440
I'm here, I'm enlightened now, and you walk around going

1121
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:14,159
I am enlightened, Like, no, what is their definition of it?

1122
01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:17,399
Speaker 2: Brain Tara and her revelations in the Sofia Code, who

1123
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,880
is considered into vent and Buddhism the mother of all Buddhas, right,

1124
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,279
so we're talking about the original source of even the

1125
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,960
concept of buddhiqu enlightenment. She shares with us in the

1126
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,600
Sofia Code that enlightenment is simply the decision to look

1127
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,760
into the light that you are and to never look away.

1128
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,840
And she says, so much has made has been made

1129
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,800
of this word enlightenment, but really it's simply to look

1130
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,880
into the light of who you really are and to

1131
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,039
never look away from it. Like, bring some lightness back

1132
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:55,399
to enlightenment. She's just laughing while she's telling me this,

1133
01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,840
and I'm like, yeah, let's bring some light. And you know, well, fairness,

1134
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:07,119
the trauma on this planet is so dense, the what

1135
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:09,680
we have survived is so dark. It's like it takes

1136
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,279
an extraordinary amount of effort to keep your focus upon

1137
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,640
the light that you are. We have a lot of

1138
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,199
hard feelings, we've got a lot of regrets, even a

1139
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:21,800
lot of resentments about what we've survived, not just in

1140
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:26,600
this lifetime and others. And so that decision to look

1141
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,960
into the light that you are and never look away,

1142
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,680
that's a big decision. It's why people like Yogananda in

1143
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,199
the Age of the Guru or were necessary. But we're now,

1144
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:39,039
we're living in the age of Aquarius, and so this

1145
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:43,760
is the time where we all must access that inner

1146
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,520
guru that knows how to look into the light that

1147
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,760
you are and never look away. And that's why we

1148
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,840
mentor with the USN and Masters, because they're like, Okay,

1149
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,479
we get it. We're going to create this sovereign, protective

1150
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,199
shield of light around you that you can actually keep

1151
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,199
your focus long enough to know what's real. And what's

1152
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:05,600
real is that you're divine.

1153
01:10:06,199 --> 01:10:10,039
Speaker 1: What does the collective or the ascended masters have to

1154
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,720
think about our our collective awakening that is happening in

1155
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,079
the planet right now. What where do they see it

1156
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,079
going in the next few decades? Because there is an awakening,

1157
01:10:21,119 --> 01:10:23,760
there is a level en up, there's a level up.

1158
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,600
There's there's no question, and there is those two powerful

1159
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,920
there's those you were mentioning, the two the two energies,

1160
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,159
the ones that want to stay in what they know

1161
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,199
and don't want things to change. And then the other

1162
01:10:37,359 --> 01:10:41,640
energy that wants things to change and is pulling towards evolution, putting,

1163
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:47,279
pulling towards a higher frequency. And there that's that's that bipolar. Uh,

1164
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,840
the polarization that you were speaking of, will be right

1165
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:58,119
back after a word from our sponsor, and now back

1166
01:10:58,159 --> 01:10:58,640
to the show.

1167
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,119
Speaker 2: In all my years of trenitious and masters, what they

1168
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:08,399
have shown me is that you cannot fight against what's

1169
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:14,720
broken and fix it. So the path for our next

1170
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,199
level ascension evolution as a species is for us to

1171
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:25,000
stay purely focused on what we want to create and

1172
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:32,880
to be willing to disengage from what isn't working, and

1173
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:39,119
to not bypass the deep, truly deep healing inner work

1174
01:11:39,159 --> 01:11:41,279
that needs to happen for us to be able to

1175
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,199
not just focus on what we want to create, but

1176
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:48,119
sustain it and expand it. Because you can create something,

1177
01:11:48,119 --> 01:11:50,000
but it takes a lot of parenting. It takes a

1178
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,359
lot of responsibility and commitment to keep growing a sovereign

1179
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golden age. Like that's why any age will fall. It's

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because people forget it. Take commitment, it takes show up,

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it takes an everyday chopwood, carry water kind of the spirituality.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful, but it's beautiful because it's not. I love

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that you said that every age can fall because just

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because you've reached a certain level. It's kind of like

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I've got a I've got a six pack. Now I

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have a six pack. Yeah, I've been I've worked really hard.

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I've got this six pack. I am jacked. If you

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don't continue to eat right and go to the gym

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and work yourself out and do things, you will lose that.

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01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:33,159
And you could easily gain all your weight back and

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01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,079
do all the things that you were on let's say unhealthy.

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Let's say you could gain a hundred pounds like that.

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If you don't, if you don't maintain it, if you

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don't put the work in.

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Speaker 2: And this is why I love mentoring with you send

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and masters, because they look at evolutionary arcs of time,

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like in spans of a thousand years or ten thousand

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or one hundred thousand years, but not just like what's

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going to happen next year? You know, what's the astrology

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for next year? They're like, so we're working on a

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,880
thousand years of ascension right now, and are you rolling

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up your sleeves for day seventy two? You know, it's like,

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,079
you know, I don't mind that. To me, that's pragmatic.

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To me, that makes sense. You know, when somebody says

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the Golden Age is going to happen in a day,

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I don't believe it because that Golden Age has to

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be sustained and expanded and networked out to other people

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that are also ready to receive it. And so the

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awakening work that we're doing in this first huge quantum

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awakening that you spoke of that's happening right now is

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just the beginning. We have so much to do.

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Speaker 1: So what does what did the estman masters have to

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say about these institutions that have been that did at

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one moment in time serve mankind even if they were

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let's say, you know, they did, they had they serve

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01:13:54,199 --> 01:13:56,479
the purpose. Let's say that they serve mankind, they serve

1217
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,640
the purpose. Like, it's a lot of established religion or

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,279
governments or these ideas of that time that are old

1219
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:08,840
now and they just aren't working. The cracks are being

1220
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,359
shown obviously. I mean, I come from the Catholic Church

1221
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:12,960
that has cracks left and right.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, some pretty big cracks.

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Speaker 1: There's some pretty big cracks exactly. And there's so many

1224
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,000
other there's so many other institutions that are starting to fall,

1225
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,600
Ollywood being one of them, and other things that you

1226
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,199
can start seeing things they're like, wait a minute, what

1227
01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:31,039
happened at Ditty's house? Like is that really what was

1228
01:14:31,039 --> 01:14:33,960
happening at Diddy's idea? That was what's happening at Diddy's house?

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Speaker 2: And whatever they're showing you in the mainstream media is

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01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,680
just the surface of what's really happening.

1231
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely so all these So what do they

1232
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:45,319
have to say about these old institutions when they're going

1233
01:14:45,399 --> 01:14:50,319
to actually start to really break down? Go away, change, adapt,

1234
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:52,760
maybe either adapt to change or just go away for

1235
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,079
this new institution, these new ideas to take hold that

1236
01:14:57,119 --> 01:14:58,239
we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they're showing me this image of a baby,

1238
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,880
and like the life span like this the lifespan of

1239
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:11,920
a single individual. All right, So if you take that

1240
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,479
life span and you extend it out a couple hundred

1241
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:22,000
thousand years to represent a species, it's like religion and

1242
01:15:22,039 --> 01:15:29,800
government control. It's a learning phase. It's like if you

1243
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,680
have a lot of newer souls that are that think

1244
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,960
it's it feels safer and easier to be controlled and

1245
01:15:38,039 --> 01:15:41,079
told what to think. Then that's just training wheels for sovereignty,

1246
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,880
because eventually you're going to want to kick those goddamn

1247
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,199
training wheels right off your bike and go for a ride.

1248
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:53,279
And so I think there's some weird separation. It's in

1249
01:15:53,479 --> 01:16:00,960
u age spirituality that somehow the human species isn't parallel

1250
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,800
to just a single person. Like we all go through

1251
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,079
the maturation process. We all know what it's like to

1252
01:16:08,079 --> 01:16:12,399
be a screaming toddler and someone and we feel safe

1253
01:16:12,399 --> 01:16:16,560
as someone is controlling us, putting us to bed and

1254
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,000
telling us what to do and what to think and

1255
01:16:18,079 --> 01:16:19,600
want to drink and want to eat and want to go.

1256
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You know, it's like humanity is moving out a toddlerhood.

1257
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Speaker 1: Well, that's okay, that makes sense now, that makes sense.

1258
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:35,119
Speaker 2: So because the challenge with that analogy is that humanity

1259
01:16:35,159 --> 01:16:38,399
has been enslaved for so long that it's hard to

1260
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,119
make that analogy because not only are we dealing with

1261
01:16:41,239 --> 01:16:47,439
like toddlerhood in terms of evolutionary arcs, we're dealing with

1262
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:54,520
like how do we navigate the depth of collective trauma? Yeah,

1263
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,720
like that level of like worldwide wars and atrocities for

1264
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,000
thousands of years. Of course people are going to need religion.

1265
01:17:02,039 --> 01:17:04,600
They can barely they can they barely have a moment

1266
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,359
to themselves. They're surviving a slave metrix, they're surviving the

1267
01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:12,640
atrocities of these wars, they're surviving a financial slave system.

1268
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: They need something, they need something to hold on to.

1269
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just trying to keep their kids alive and

1270
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,479
food on the table.

1271
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1272
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,079
Speaker 2: It's just like, of course, religion served its purpose. It

1273
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:26,640
was five minutes out of a week of survival that

1274
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:31,039
they could hopefully find some peace in a moment to themselves.

1275
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,199
And I think we as a society forget that, Like

1276
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,199
most of humanity is just busy surviving and religion is

1277
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:46,520
like an easy way to kind of supplement that reality

1278
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,119
and you don't have to They certainly don't have to

1279
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:54,000
think too hard. That's very treat you know, because thinking,

1280
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:56,560
sometimes thinking hard thoughts gets you in trouble.

1281
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:00,359
Speaker 1: So why are you asking these crazy quesquestions?

1282
01:18:00,399 --> 01:18:00,520
Speaker 2: Now?

1283
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why are you asking like silly questions of like

1284
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,039
what what is the meaning of life? You know? Why

1285
01:18:07,079 --> 01:18:09,640
are we here? So?

1286
01:18:10,359 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: You know, to for religion to crumble means that enough

1287
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,119
of the population of humanity has to feel strong enough

1288
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:22,520
to go within and find a genuine form of spirituality

1289
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,640
for themselves. And that's what we're starting to have, what

1290
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,399
we're starting to see happen. That took a long time

1291
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,479
to get there though.

1292
01:18:31,319 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: And it's still we're still there. We're still you and

1293
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,720
I are working on that right now. With this conversation,

1294
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,479
I mean, this conversation is going to hopefully open up

1295
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,680
some people's eyes and they might not agree with everything

1296
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,560
we've said, but they might pick up a couple of

1297
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,560
nuggets here there, or maybe a couple of seats may

1298
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,279
be planted that they go off and read a book,

1299
01:18:48,359 --> 01:18:50,199
or they go off and watch a show, or they

1300
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:52,439
go off and you know, pick up the Sophia Code

1301
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,319
and whatever that is. It's it's there. I always tell people,

1302
01:18:57,359 --> 01:18:59,600
don't throw the baby out with the bath water, you know,

1303
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,479
just because everything that is said in a conversation isn't

1304
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,479
exactly what you wanted to hear, there might be one

1305
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,439
or two nuggets in there. I find that all the

1306
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,640
time in shows and movies and documentaries and books. You know,

1307
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,640
there's little moments of things that you can grab on

1308
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:14,680
that that might help you.

1309
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 2: So there's a really good analogy with what's featured in

1310
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,399
the Sophia Code. I've been teaching about the Sofia Code

1311
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,760
for ten years now. In the beginning of the movement,

1312
01:19:27,159 --> 01:19:30,199
so many people that came only wanted to hear from

1313
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:35,119
Mother Mary or Kwanyin or isis like they needed a

1314
01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:39,439
human face to connect with the message. Now I have

1315
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,720
all these people coming and they're like, I don't want

1316
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,680
to I want to hear from the dragons, and I'm like,

1317
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,479
who are you? You know, They're like, when are you

1318
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,560
going to start talking more about the Star Nation? And

1319
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,840
I'm like wow, So the shift is happening, you know,

1320
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,359
But those those those religious faces, and of course the

1321
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:01,159
Sofia Code is offering their original a source teachings, not

1322
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:05,760
the religious teachings of these figures. Sure, but you know

1323
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,920
those those were That's safety for a lot of people.

1324
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,079
They don't want to be in religion, but the face

1325
01:20:11,239 --> 01:20:15,800
and the association with your religion brings safety to them.

1326
01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:17,880
It's a stepping stone.

1327
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,399
Speaker 1: No question, no question. Now I'm going to ask you

1328
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,479
a few questions, ask all my guests. Okay, what is

1329
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:29,800
your definition of living a fulfilled life? We'll be right

1330
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:36,079
back after a word from our sponsor, and now back

1331
01:20:36,119 --> 01:20:36,600
to the show.

1332
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: Staying true to my heart living a life dedicated to

1333
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,319
creativity and a sovereignty.

1334
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,239
Speaker 1: Now, if you had a chance to go back in

1335
01:20:47,359 --> 01:20:50,600
time and speak to little Kaya, what advice would you

1336
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:51,960
give her?

1337
01:20:52,560 --> 01:21:03,399
Speaker 3: Bitcoin No just kidding, uh no, No, that's.

1338
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,079
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but I mean I mean there, I'm like,

1339
01:21:08,199 --> 01:21:09,119
I mean like, if I.

1340
01:21:09,079 --> 01:21:18,359
Speaker 2: Got to say everything, yeah, I would say I would

1341
01:21:18,359 --> 01:21:21,159
say the world's not ready for you, but it would

1342
01:21:21,159 --> 01:21:25,199
be who you are anyways, because the world needs you.

1343
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: How do you define God or Source?

1344
01:21:29,399 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: I define God or Source as the unconditionally loving presence

1345
01:21:35,119 --> 01:21:36,600
that created all that is.

1346
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: What is love.

1347
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: Love is a consciousness that we get to align with

1348
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:47,119
to live in our highest potential and experience our greatest joy.

1349
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

1350
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 2: To love and to be loved?

1351
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you the

1352
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,039
Sofia Code and the amazing work you're doing in the world.

1353
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 2: You can find out about my work at Caira dot

1354
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,119
com and that's spelled ka I A r A dot com.

1355
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,479
And we also have two free spiritual offerings, the Heaven

1356
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,359
on Earth Prayer Collective and the Sovereign Soul Alliance for

1357
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,520
Survivors that you can find out about and join us

1358
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,720
for free at the Sophia Codefoundation dot org.

1359
01:22:19,159 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: And do you have any parting messages for the audience.

1360
01:22:22,119 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: Well, first, I just want to say thank you. This

1361
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,079
has been so fun and enjoyable. And yeah, I just

1362
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:33,000
thank you. Yeah. I always get a little nervous before our podcasts, like,

1363
01:22:33,039 --> 01:22:34,720
oh man, where are they going to ask? This has

1364
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,560
been so lovely. Thank you for all of your considerate

1365
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,760
ways and for everything that you bring to the table

1366
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,199
and your wonderful questions. And I think I would say

1367
01:22:46,119 --> 01:22:48,279
I think I would just close with like, the greatest

1368
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:51,199
thing you can offer this world is to love yourself,

1369
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,279
and that's that can take the rest of your life

1370
01:22:55,319 --> 01:22:57,239
to learn how to do the way that your heart

1371
01:22:57,279 --> 01:22:58,000
really needs you.

1372
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Speaker 3: To love it.

1373
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,319
Speaker 2: So here for you if you're ready to learn how

1374
01:23:02,319 --> 01:23:04,560
to love your own heart with the Sophia Code teachings,

1375
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:05,520
that's what I would share.

1376
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: Hi, thank you so much for coming on the show

1377
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,199
and for your bravery and for the work that you're

1378
01:23:11,239 --> 01:23:13,000
doing in the world to help awaken the planet. So

1379
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,079
I appreciate you, my dear. Thank you again.

1380
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Alex. What a pleasure to be here.

1381
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:18,039
Thank you.

1382
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,079
Speaker 1: I want to thank Hia so much for sharing her

1383
01:23:22,119 --> 01:23:24,039
story with all of us. If you want to get

1384
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:25,840
links to anything we spoke about in this episode, head

1385
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,199
over to the show notes at Next levelsoul dot com

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01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:33,880
Forward slash four six one. Now. If this conversation stirred

1387
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,000
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1392
01:23:58,199 --> 01:24:00,560
Thank you so much for listening. As I always say,

1393
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trust the journey. It's there to teach you. I'll see

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you next time,

