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reflect the views or positions of this show, its host,
or any of the companies they represent. Now, this is
going to be a very powerful conversation. We welcome to
the show, Kaya Raw. Kaya Raw is a channel, but
her journey in life is by far tougher than many.
She was essentially born into a slavery human trafficked and
what she witnessed will bring you to tea years to
say the least. This is a very very powerful conversation, guys,
so please let's dive in. I like to welcome to
the show, Kaya Rahyd and Kaya Hi Alex.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm
really looking forward to our conversation. I love the work
that you're doing in the world. We're going to talk
about your book, The Sofia Code, which there's a story
and a half on how this thing was written and there.
But before we get going, you know you do channeling,
You've channeled, you channeled the book, you channel Descended Masters.
I say this like such off the cuff because we
talk about it so often on the show. A lot
of people are like what, I'm like, It's something that
we talk about a lot. But my first question to
you is what was your life like before channeling? This
insanity that is channeling and this whole world kind of
came into your life because it's and I say insanity
in the and most loving way possible, because channeling the
other side is for a lot of people looking at
it is this is insane, and all of that energy
that comes along in channeling the other side and channeling
this kind of knowledge with other people, it seems a
little odd. So I'm sure it's throwing your life upside
down left and right by doing this and coming out
and all this kind of stuff. So what was your
life like before this or was there a moment before
channel No.
Speaker 2: There was no moment before that, So.
Speaker 1: Tell me how it started with you, like when you
were born? What was your process coming up?
Speaker 2: Well, and the preface of the Sophia Code, I share
like a brushstroke of my early life and I'm a
survivor of elite human trafficking. And I was born into well,
it was a military program for psychically gifted children that
was using a civilian front for children like myself that
was born into these programs. So I was born psychically open.
And my connection with the sent and Masters and the
Angelic orders, I believe is what kept me alive really.
Speaker 1: During that process. I've spoken to others about that program.
Speaker 2: There are many, there are countless accountless many yes.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you then, and please say I'd
rather not talk about it. I'm just gonna ask questions.
So please, I want you to feel comfortable about it.
But I mean, if you've spoken about it in your book,
but with these, with these programs, you said you were
born into it, what do you What do you mean
by that?
Speaker 2: I mean exactly what I shared. There are programs that
are specifically used to breed specific genetics and specifically for
certain inherited gifts like talents in psychic development can be
passed down generationally.
Speaker 1: Sure. Oh so that's and and you were part of
that program.
Speaker 2: So my true mother was extremely psychically gifted and she
was used as a slave for this breeding program.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so sure, yeah, and this is
in the US.
Speaker 2: This is you know, this is something that happens in
the US every day, but it's just starting to come
into the public's awareness of how many covert black operations
happen every day in this country with children and Satanic
ritual and the use of children for their gifts and
for their blood.
Speaker 1: Wow, So how did you how did you escape the scenario?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, these programs aren't interested in adults. They're
interested in children. They're interested in young adults. That's who
they want to rape. That's their religion is, you know,
stealing the consciousness and the bodies and the life force
and the gifts of child. And so I believe that
I'm alive by the grace of God. And there was
a certain point in my early adulthood where I was
still being watched and stopped. But you know, these when
you're born into these programs, you're just inventory. So inventory
always costs money to store, it costs money to transport,
it costs money to maintain. And so if you're no
longer being used as a child or a young adult
in a program, that's money that they consider is being wasted.
So if you're not dead by that point, they'll just
you know, many times you'll just end up zombified and
walking away from these programs not even remembering that you
survive them. Now, there's a lot of survivors now that
are coming online that realize that they survived something similar,
whether it was through the Masonic Order or you know,
certain intelligence agency programs like the ones I survived. It's like,
we're going to find out that there's a lot more
survivors over the next decade then we actually realized are
walking around in daylight. They just don't know. Most of
them don't know that they've survived.
Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of things are starting to
come out. Oh yeah, this last twenty years, Over these
last twenty five years, I'd say it's been slowly lots
of areas, every single major institution around the world, from
government to medical, to school to Hollywood to all of them.
They're all the cracks. Religion, all of the cracks are
starting to come out, and things that things that were
talked about, like you know, I I was in Hollywood
for a long time and I heard about a lot
of the me too stuff. When I was coming up,
I heard the rumblings of it of what you know,
Weinstein was doing and these other guys were doing a
lot of them, and I was just like, oh, it's
like is that real? Like I can't believe. That can't
be real. I didn't know a lot. I was just
a young kid just coming up. But a lot of
these things that were like conspiracy theories before are now no,
this is real. Child trafficking is it's a horrible, serious
thing that is being dealt with and in the US
and around and a lot of these things that were
considered fringe before are now really like no, no, here's
the proof, here's what's happening. This is what's going on.
And I think you're right. It's gonna keep coming out
more and more.
Speaker 2: Like elite human trafficking. People think of human trafficking as like,
you know, a massage parlor in Thailand. That's some gross
guy visits, you know, on his vacation, and it's happening
right here. And there's a massive hierarchy as far as
like how slaves are taken in, how they're developed, how
they're invested into what tiered level you're at in the
slave system, you know, And a lot of these elites
don't want to just rape a each child. They want
to rape their own bloodlines because they're you know, just
like just like they wouldn't want to eat at McDonald's,
they want to eat it, you know, a really nice restaurant. Yeah,
it's like they want to they want to rape their
own so that they'll have a lot of their own
children put into secret homes that then end up getting
trained in these programs for really high level missions jobs
for the children that are forced to go out to
you know, service if and if they're lucky to survive,
because a lot of them men do up on a
dinner plate. So, you know, my psychic gifts or what
it wasn't the only thing that kept me alive.
Speaker 1: It was God.
Speaker 2: It was all of these this legion of light that
surrounded me. But it also was my ability to see
beyond the veils and to channel for myself for my
own survival. And I was used as a channel and
a lot of these rituals, I would be forced to,
you know, speak on behalf of the souls that they
would murder in front of us. And yeah, because they
love that, they love they're just so sick. It's it's
inconceivable how sick these people are and the kind of
entertainment that they enjoy.
Speaker 1: So when you when you finally were out of this
this world and you know you were dealing with the
trauma as I'm sure you're still dealing with it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's a lifetime of healing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, We'll be right back after a word
from our sponsor. And now back to the show. When
you decided to start breaking your gifts into the world
as light and trying to help people with your gifts,
what time of your life was that, Like how old
were you when you started to You made the conscious
decision like I'm free now, I have these gifts. I
want to help the world.
Speaker 2: You know, it was hapened in stages. I knew that
people handlers were keeping their eyes on me in my
early twenties. I knew it because they would break into
my apartment buildings or stock me at the university I
went to. But I also knew that I was free
enough to start getting an education, to start working, to
start making a living. And I used everything in me
to put my life back together, to get on a
path of how to take care of myself, how to
be an adult, and so along that journey. I was
going to Emerson College in Boston, and I was living
in downtown Boston and there was this amazing yoga studio
back Bay Yoga at the time, and they were doing
something no one. I mean, this is like over twenty
years ago. They were talking about chakras and Colima meditation,
and you know, they're teaching like seven different types of
yoga and people were coming in droves. Like twenty years ago,
you didn't go to yoga and forty five to fifty
people were in the room every night, But they were
because there was incredible teachers there that they were just
they were just so generous, so empowered, and so open
about yoga being a life saving practice. And at the time,
you know, it was extremely wounded. I drank every day,
chained smoked well, you know, just to numb the pain.
I partied a lot, and something told me, get your
butt into that yoga studio because I also had no
control over my gifts and the things that I could see,
or it was it was because I was in so
much pain. It was more focused on the darkness, Like
I could see demons on people. I could see darker
entities that were you know, just praying on people, and
it just was making my life feel really heavy that
everywhere I went, I was seeing spirits and energies that were,
you know, harming people, but I didn't I wasn't healed
enough to know how to help them. And so I
started going to this yoga studio every night after work
and they would have back to back classes, and so
I would go and spend four hours in yoga. And
I did this for two years straight, and I had
a full blown Kundalini wakening in the process, and I
actually started to get I got an increase in my
salary because of the projects I was working on at
the company I was at, and I started traveling and
learning from other teachers how to hone my gifts and
skills because they genuinely wanted to help others with them.
I just didn't know how to get it into a
place where I could be functioning with it. I was
just really terrified of what I could see. And so
it was through that asana and meditation practice that started
to move some of the trauma out of my body
enough that I I could really come back into alignment
with my higher self. And then, at the age of
twenty seven, had just full blown cornily awakening, and I
legally changed my name to KaiA Raw because that was
what my spiritual guides asked me to do. And I
believe at that point, the part of my soul that
I had survived what I had survived, started to leave,
and the part of my soul that is Kaya started
to almost like walk into this body. It was as
though I was so damaged from what had happened to
me that that part of my soul just needed to
start to take an exit as more of my higher
self or whatever. This other part of my soul is
that's name Kaya, came into my body started the process
of downloading into my body. There's you know, it wasn't
probably until about ten years later that I felt like
I was fully this I guess incarnation of myself.
Speaker 1: When you were when you were younger, and these gifts.
I mean, it's like I've talked to so many channels
that don't have anybody to guide them at all. Like
the voices start coming in and they just like, am
I losing my mind? Am I going crazy? I don't
think that that was your case. I think you either
had someone around you good or bad in your life
that was telling you what was going on with you?
Is that a fair statement? Did you understand at least
what was happening to you earlier?
Speaker 2: I mean in those programs, yeah, we were being you know,
so brutally trained and to access other dimensional realities and
stretch our capacity for quantum embodiment.
Speaker 1: I mean, this sounds like a Stephen King movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm writing a novel right now about what
I survived, and I'm actually going to publish it as
science fiction because it's so over the top what I
survived that I think people will be able to accept
it more through that through the lens of fiction, because
it's just that extreme. I just I just chose that
extreme of a mission. But to answer your question, I mean,
I have memories of angels and green Tara, Like I
designed this pendant for a green Tara I'm wearing right
now talking to me at the age of three, you know,
as I'm standing outside my body, you know, after some
near death experience, Like I have full memories of these
beings teaching me how to navigate the amount of terror, trauma, grief, sadness,
having no control over my body, how to manage that,
and how to stay alive, and so I know that
I trained in many other lifetimes as a channel and
as an oracle, and I know that a lot of
those lifetimes are in preparation for this one and to
bring the Sofia Code into this world and everything that
comes with the Sofia Code.
Speaker 1: And we're definitely going to get We're going to dive
into the sofa. Yeah, ignore in a little bit, so
when I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. My
understanding of the other side is that when we are
souls that are about to reincarnate or incarnate into a life,
there is a sole blueprint, a sole plan of what
that soul is supposed to, you know, what the challenges
they want on that and that lifetime. You know, Hey,
I want to be rich, I want to be poor.
I want to be you know this, Or I want
to be strong, I want to be six foot tall,
I want to be in this kind of the world
because these are going to I want to go into
this religion because it's going to teach me these lessons
and all that kind of stuff. Is that do you
do you have the same understanding or do you agree
with that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we call it the mission what's your mission like right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm doing a little bit of it
right now now doing the work that I'm doing. It
took me a while to get here, but I'm here
now and you're doing yours. So my question to you,
and I asked this question for helping for people who
are going have gone through trauma, or are going through
trauma in their life. A lot of people don't understand
why me, Why did this happen to me? Why am
I going through this? Why did I get born into
this family? I? Why am I? Why is this person
abusing me or taking advantage of me? Or why is it?
Can you explain to people why you think you went
through this process, because when you went through is pretty extreme,
and maybe with that explanation can help others listening why
they're going through what they're going through and give them
a little bit of understanding and peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah you did that so gracefully. Thank you, Alex. Yeah,
it's really perfect. So I'm a big proponent of christ
consciousness or anyway I was known as Buddha consciousness. I
believe the soul is invincible, all powerful, divine, and I
believe the soul makes some very powerful decisions before it
itcarnates into human form. And so I know that I
watched the entire movie of this life before I came here,
and I know that I agreed to it and I
said yes. And I know that as I watched that
movie as a soul, I also wept. You know. It's
like I think we think of the heavenly realities or
the higher realms as a place so we don't feel,
But that's not true, and the soul is designed to feel.
We have a feeling intelligence. And part of one of
the reasons why we love the masters, the saints like
Yogananda behind you, is because there is so much feeling
and compassion in their service and in what they have
survived in their own journey of you know, helping to
awaken others. And so I know that I chose this.
I know, I absolutely know, without a doubt, I did
not have to come in this lifetime. I know that
I chose it. I know that I chose these circumstances
for a very big mission to be a part of
this global movement that's happening right now to expose elite
human trafficking, but also to be a part of the
movement of humanity reclaiming and activating its sovereign divinity beyond
all of this criminal activity. It's like I'm here for
all of it. I'm here for the full spectrum of
awakening on the planet. I'm here to help people look
at the darkness as I'm here to mirror back to
them that they are the light. So I apparently my
soul wanted, you know, a very very challenging mission. But
I also know that when the soul chooses a mass,
like a game theory of challenges, you're exponentially increasing the
level of reward, like the volatility can actually come with
a very high yield reward. And my reward is how
many souls can I awaken while I'm still alive.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show, right And I think
that's so important what you said, because so many people
that are going through trauma in their life don't really
understand the purpose of it. And I think that and
I've spoken to many, in my opinion, walking saints that
are here right now, living avatars who have been on
there's been a handful on the show, but also people
who have been connected to living avatars where people like
a Jesus, a Buddha, a Yoga, Nanda, ababa g These
these avatars, these saints sended me masters or masters are
examples of what all of us can achieve are in
our own spiritual in our own spiritual journey. This is
That's why they came. They came to show you that. No, no,
it's Jesus said it. Whatever I can do, you can
do it. More like it's it's not the Kingdom of
God is within you. I mean, these are very simple
ideas that he was talking two thousand plus years ago
where people were like what people are still like what exactly?
But I and if I may be so bold to say,
I think your story is an example of survival and
also an example of what can be so like, well,
if she's gone through this and is where she is now,
this is an example of what can be done. It's
the ten, it's the tent, it's the four minute mile,
you're the four minute miles. Four Jesus is the four
minute tel because no, yeah, because nobody could break the
four minute mile until one guy broke the four minute mile.
They said it was impossible, and the second he broke
it thirty other people brought everyone else.
Speaker 3: Yes, everyone's like.
Speaker 1: Oh, is that it's possible to be done? Oh okay,
then so you're you're a four minute mile from your
life story and what you're doing your work, and all
of us are acting as examples for others that things
are possible to be done, but yours is a very
difficult path. So I appreciate and honor what you are
doing and have done in your life, My.
Speaker 2: Dear thank you. I feel like it's important to share
with your audience, with these wonderful souls that trust you
and your work, that if there is are there, if
there are souls that are watching that are suffering in
their journey through recovering from trauma, I'd like to share
that one of the biggest pieces for me was learning
how to forgive myself, not how to forgive all of
these men and women who raped me and murdered children
in front of me. I had to learn how to
forgive myself. Because when you make a choice through the
perspective of your higher self and your over soul, you know,
in the higher realms, and then you come down here
to live out that choice on earth, those are two
very different realities. There's the idea about it, and then
there's the actual reality of what it means to be
raped over and over again or beaten over and over again,
or you know, sold over and over. Like it's one
thing in theory, it's another thing in action. And I
realized a couple of years ago, like I have to
forgive myself for choosing a mission like this. And in
that forgiveness, oh, I say it, you make peace with
your purpose. You can't fully make peace with your purpose
until you forgive yourself choosing the mission. I don't know,
I feel like I need to say that for somebody
who's going to be watching this video.
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that, because that's a very powerful statement
because it's one thing to like say, hey, you know,
I chose a difficult life, and I, you know, I
had I have I've had, you know, some trauma in
my life where I, you know, got hooked up with
the mob when I was younger, and uh, you know,
unfortunately and went through a lot of deep trauma during
that process. And I chose that. I chose that. So
to think about that and other things that have happened
in my life throughout my life, I've chosen those things
if you look at it from that lens. Forgiving yourself.
I never thought about that. It's just a power. There's
a very powerful statement to forgive yourself for this journey
because in this perspective of we're looking at it right now,
you need forgiveness. On the other side, you don't need
forgiveness for this journey because it was like, no, you
just like you sat down and you're watching this film.
This is the you signed up for this, you wanted
this so but it's very difficult for us to you know,
be that who are playing the game, if you will,
who are actors in the movie going through it. It's
very different than the screenwriter who wrote it. Very the
soul is the screenwriter writing the story, and then you
as the actor. I'm like, oh, I'll do this, I'll
do this. But when you're in it, when you're in
it and yeh, the mud is hitting you and and
you know the fire is over you, and like, am
I shooting this movie? Like Jesus that it's very easy
for the writer to just go, yeah, this happens, this happens,
and this happens. But for when you're in it, to
forgive yourself, to have agreed to do. It is a
very powerful, powerful tool.
Speaker 3: I think I like.
Speaker 2: To use a lot of like military metaphors, and I
like to think about these kind of missions, is like
we're boots on the ground. We're literally boots on the ground.
We're literally like angelic soldiers on the ground of the matrix.
And you know, the higher realms can't vote unless someone
takes on the body. Higher realms can't can't intervene unless
there's players in the in the actual physical game. And
so forgiving yourself for choosing to be an active player
in the game of Awakening, it's it softens the parts
of us that might feel like what we survived is
too much to forgive. M Sometimes things happen and it
just feels like I don't think I could ever forgive
that ever, right, But when you forgive yourself, you forgive life,
you forgive God because you said yes, you know, it's
like you're you're bringing love and nurturance to the human experience.
You're honoring the one that survived even though your higher
self said yes, It's like, let's bring some honor to
the human vessel that survived and implemented the mission. And
that I think is where we're headed in the next
decade of spirituality is like, Okay, who cares? If you
can channel blah blah blah, Like can you do human
in a beautiful and powerful and grounded way that honors
the human body, the human heart, the heroic human journey.
If you're channeling empowers that, then I'm all for it.
If it's all about getting off the planet and escaping
the body, like, I don't have time for that. It's
not changing anything, and it's not honoring, you know, the
really intense things that we survive here in this matrix.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that you say that because so
many people are just like I just can't wait to
get out of this this game. You know, I want
to get out of this, especially when we're going through
the tough times. We've all been there. Everyone's gone through,
you know, they haven't gone maybe to the extremes that
you've dealt with, or even versions of what I've talked about,
but they've they've dealt with pain. Everybody deals with pain.
Speaker 2: Everyone, every universal.
Speaker 1: Every human soul that walks on this planet deals with pain.
And one more. Because you are dealing with a game
full of pain of other people dealing with pain, So
you will effect. Trauma will happen to you. Pain will
happen to you is not a question of if, but when.
But how you deal with it is the only thing
you can control in this game is that is the
dealing of it. But when you're saying forgive yourself, so
many people and I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate here where
people listening will go, that sounds great kaya about forgiving
yourself or this this you know B I, T. C. H.
Who did this thing to me or did that thing
to me? I can never be the monsters, the monsters.
Speaker 2: Actual monsters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how can I forgive them? If? And I'm gonna
play Devil's Advocate here. Yeah, we all chose to come
down here, and those monsters on the other side say, hey,
I'll play that part for you. I'll help you on
your journey because I got a whole lot of stuff
I got to work out, and that's and I'm gonna
have to pay for it, but it's something I want
to play. I'm going to play that part. I'm gonna
play Hannibal Lecter. I'll play Hannibal Lecter for you in
your life because that's what you're asking me to do
on the other side is that I'm playing Devil's advocate.
Does that make sense. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: No, I mean you're talking about principles of Christ's consciousness.
I mean, ultimately, we all come from God. And there's
a whole chessboard on here, you know, in this matrix
that we all agree to play on, and we agreed
to play out the game to what's the right word,
to deconstruct the evil and release our addictions to it
from it, so we can't When we experience something like
being raped and we say I forgive you to a perpetrator,
we are not in any way excuse me, We are
not in any way condoning the behavior or the sin,
or the trespass or the criminal activity of others. Sure,
of course, what we're saying is I have to forgive you,
to release you out of my life, out of my body,
out of my reality. But forgiving and forgiving someone don't
know what's going on here. Forgiving someone and releasing them
is not the same as abdicating your experience of it.
To be raped is terrifying, to be raped is to
lose all control of your body. To be raped is
to be dominated over. It is not sexual abuse. It
is rape. There is nothing consensual about rape whatsoever. And
whether you are a man, woman, or otherwise, when you
get raped, there is nothing more terrifying, devastating, or shameful experience.
There's just nothing to describe how horrifying it is to
keep living through that memory over and over and over again.
And so when you forgive something or someone that's that horrific,
what you're saying is you will no longer control me
ever again. I will own my experience and I release
you for God to deal with you whatever that justice is. Now,
I'm a saying if someone if you can actually bring
someone to actual legal justice, you should like I'm not Yeah,
I'm not saying, don't.
Speaker 1: Do that, Karma. Let karma deal with it. Yeah, we'll
deal with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But in terms of if we're talking about the spiritual
principles and practice of forgiveness, it's a process of allowing
the perfection of God and life and the divine to
implement that justice so that you can move forward in
the liberation of your own heart. So even though we
all play these roles. That doesn't in any way.
Speaker 1: Mean we.
Speaker 2: Minimize the impact that evil is evil. Yes, and I
find that that happens a lot in you age spirituality.
It makes me want to vomit.
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's it's I don't know if anyone else
has said this, but I'm using this phrase is toxic spirituality.
It's this this toxic spirituality of you know, butterflies and
rainbows and that kind of stuff. And there's a place
for that kind of stuff, and there's it's part of
the package. But if you only focus on that, then
it's not you're not seeing the wider picture because the
experience that we're here is not rainbows and butterflies. It's
not This is not the experience. This is not the journey.
You know, if you study any of the masters, especially
like you know, we've spoken about Yogananda a few times,
study his his path. His path was not easy. It
was a very difficult path for I mean, and it's
a difficult for any avatar who's walking the earth from
where he decided to go on his mission. I think
around the same age as Jesus, around thirty or so
is when he decided to start coming to America. Going
and going this uphill battle and dealing with this and
trying to and he's just trying to help people, and
then people suing him, and people attacking him and literally
running him out of town because they were afraid of him,
and and and then being and being what I'm gonna
call it, his best friend screws him over. Oh God,
he went through a lot in his life and all
he wanted. He told God, He's like, I just I
just want to go back to India. They understand what
I'm saying. I don't have to beg them to meditate.
They understand like this, but that was in his path,
so that we all have to go through a very
difficult path on this earth, some more than others, depending
on our life. But uh, I appreciate everything you're saying here,
and I hope that people listening this old idea of
this new age concepts that are all butterflies and rainbows,
that's not the whole package. And I on this show,
I always talk about everything. I talk about, the good,
the bad, and the ugly. And that's why I give
a light to where you're talking about and story for
people to understand that, look, this is not we can
channel beings, we can talk to psychics, we can talk
about quantum physics, we could talk about ancient civilizations. That's
all wonderful. It's all part of the elephant. I call
it the elephant the proverb. I want to see the
whole elephant, and I'm trying to I'm trying to connect
it all. But that's not pretty all the time. And
that's okay because that's part of this experience and that's
what we have to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for taking a stand for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to try. It's not easy. It's not easy.
You know, it's not easy, But I hope it helps people.
And again, that's the mission of what I do, and
I think it's a mission of what you do as well.
It's just trying to help people walk through this path.
And I think you've noticed that too, over the last
even twenty years, that the world, the world is changed.
People are searching for this information. People are asking questions,
people are questioning institutions and religions and ideas, old ideas
that are not serving humanity anymore, that are being searched for.
They're searching for shows like this, They're searching for books
and teachings like yours because they're they're hungry, they're starving
to get the truth or at.
Speaker 2: Least Yeah, I think starving is an accurate word. Yeah,
starving is accurate for sure.
Speaker 1: The media landscape doesn't give any there's not even there's
barely even fast food in this space as far as
spirituality is concerned, Like there's if it wasn't for shows
like this or books like yours that can guide people,
and they're getting more and more, but there's it's pretty
anemic out there still.
Speaker 2: It is. And thank god that there are leaders and
authors and speakers and shows like this that are that
continue to pioneer even in the face of censorship and oppression.
And also just people don't even know how to be
interested in these things. They've been so much of the
population has been programmed to fear even being intuitive, let
alone psychic. And we're all born intuitive, we're all born psychic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's feelings we all get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all
yaind of So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're breaking down a lot of walls right now.
But wow, we've come so far. I mean, just like
we were talking about earlier, even twenty years ago, you know,
you said the word chakra. No one would know what
you were talking about unless you were in a you know,
a really prolific yoga studio happened to find something like that.
So I think it's interesting how quickly things are starting
to break through.
Speaker 1: Now, So let me talk about the Sofia Code a
little bit. What was your journey on bringing this this
book into this book right here, bringing this book into life,
because it's to my understanding you you channeled ascended masters
to bring this in. So who are these ascended masters?
I want to know? First? Are they? Are they the top?
Are the most famous ones. They're like, you know, the
backstreet boys of sality that everybody knows. Like.
Speaker 2: Well, the first eight revealed, well, the first seven revealed
key codes are pretty prominent. And in the collective psyche,
you know, we've got a cinemester Isis and Hathor from Egypt.
We have Green Tara hailing from Tibet. We have Mother
Mary and Mary Magdalene from the mystical Christian tradition, and
we have Kwan Yin from Asia. And then of course
we have white buffalo women from North America. So it's
this these are larger than life figures that wanted to
reintroduce themselves to humanity in a very human way, in
a very relatable way, through the Sophia Code. Now, the
eighth key code that activates our by genome in the
Sofia Code is an angelic order, well called the Seraphim,
but there are for anyone who's studied angelic orders, there
can be multiple levels in an angelic order. And so
these particular serasom are dragons. They are these angelic cosmic
dragons that are part of birth and creation. I couldn't
believe it when I first met them. I thought to myself,
oh boy, I'm going to have to talk about this
for the rest of my life. That might destroy my career,
you know, being dragons and all.
Speaker 1: But we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
And now back to the show.
Speaker 2: In my research, as I was preparing to release a
Sophia Code, I was in this little library in England,
in Glastonbury, and this book kind of fell off the
shelf and I thought, okay, my hair cells talking and
I opened up to the different mean like the kabalistic
understanding of the words seraphim, and it was the fiery
creatures of God. And I knew in that moment that
I should stop doubting myself completely and that this was
an important moment to reintroduce the Seraphim order back to
humanity for its awakening. Because in the Sypia Code we
call them the Seraphim a sovereignty. They embody the Holy
fire and light of the Divine Mother, which pierces through
the Luciferian agendas of this world. And the irony of
this is, you know, so much of the Satanic mythology
is often connected to like Reptilian aliens and all of that,
and it's just like, that's not what we're talking about here.
These are cosmic angelic Seraphim creatures, fiery creatures of God
that happened to be a part of initiating ascended masters
through eons of time. That's what they availed to me.
So that's our, that's our, like the easiest showcase. But
then the the overarching high Council is called the Sofia
Dragon tribe. In these this high Council was gathered by
the Divine Mother of ordained and gathered by the Divine Mother,
organized by the Divine Mother, who we call Sofia in
the Sofia Code, but of course, Sofia is just one
name for God. There are countless names for God and uh.
These a Sended Masters represent the brightest and the best
who have served not just on Earth but in other
star systems the sovereign awakening of a species. So they
are experts on how to embody your sovereignty, how to
live in the divine light of your sovereignty. When you
choose that, it's just like the Matrix, Just like Neo
and the Matrix, you're literally really unplugging every part of
you off of the dependency and addiction of the Satanic
and Luciferian lives that are so prevalent in every in
the entire fabric of the world that we live in.
Everything's impacted by these agendas. So when you choose to
live in your sovereignty, like Jesus or Mother Mary or Kwanyin,
it's like you're making a massive statement. You're choosing to
be operated by your divine consciousness. And that's why we
mentor with the sen and Masters in the Sovia Code,
because we've got to we've got to have role models
for what that looks like.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, you know exactly, Well, that's what we were
talking about earlier. We needed role models. We need to
see what yeah possible with these How did you deal
with I mean coming out of this coming out of
the closet I always called a coming out of the
spiritual closet in a in a big way with this
and with you know, the fiery creatures of you know,
of the other side and this kind of and you're like,
because I mean from you know, from our conversation, I mean,
you are definitely not so woo woo out there like yeah,
and then you know, I'm doing like, You're not that person.
You seem a pretty grounded person because of the things
you've gone through. So you your logical brain is going,
oh god, I gotta release, you know, I gotta put
this out there and then I gotta talk about this
for like the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: And hey, am from the East Coast, man.
Speaker 1: I can tell the energies very East coasty. I'm from
the East Coast as well. So there's that, there's that vibe, but.
Speaker 2: There's that edge.
Speaker 1: There's that there's that edge.
Speaker 2: You know how you're gonna get roasted for it, you know.
Speaker 1: So then how did so how did you have the
courage to say, I gotta do this because so many
people have are walking right now on that edge. I
had to deal with it with this show of like
being afraid of coming out fully into this show, and
and so many other people had to do that with
other aspects of their life. What advice do you have
for them?
Speaker 2: When you are constantly facing death, you know, you just
really at the core of it, you just you know,
if you're here for a mission, you got to fulfill
the mission. If God sent you, that's who you're going
back to. Do you have enough near death experiences you
understand exactly where you're going back to, And you don't
want to go back and not and report back, Hey
I didn't I didn't actually do what I said I
was going to do. Yeah. Yeah, It's just like I'm
so not interested in that. When I'm living in the
company of ascended masters, you know, it's like it's.
Speaker 3: Not very cool.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to stay on target. So and
I you know, and I I do have some pretty
stellar Capricorn placements that really keep me super focused, grounded driven.
I want I want these very high level metaphysical concepts
to be as relatable as possible, to be as effective
as possible, Like I love studying business and finance and
branding and marketing like I love these things. Just because
I'm a channel doesn't mean I don't love what's interesting
about this world and how concepts are communicated. So I
feel like God blessed me in that way. And you know,
the grit of the East Coast certainly taught me like,
no one's going to hand you roses for saying you
see you see dragons or dead people like they'll probably life,
you know, they'll probably be upset at you for it,
and maybe occasionally, well someone will bring a rose and
say thank you, that just changed my life. But don't
bet on the.
Speaker 3: Roses, you know, and do it anyways.
Speaker 1: So because you had a job, II though you had
a job, you had a career and you, oh yeah,
you walked away from this.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I will the.
Speaker 1: Secure, the secure world of writing books and talking about.
Speaker 2: Because you can make a living off writing books. Yeah yeah,
books are just calling cards and bless them for being
the calling cards to our missions. But no, it was
you know, I I literally felt like I was dying
every day I had to live in corporate America. I'm
not judging America. I just personally felt like I was
dying while.
Speaker 1: I was there and wasn't for you, wasn't for you.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is like it trained me every
day to become the woman I am, to become the
business woman and the entrepreneur that I am. Like I learned,
I soaked in everything. I paid attention to everyone and everything.
I was taking notes and so I have a lot
to think for that that beginning. And I think it
also taught me that, you know, I didn't have anyone
explicitly saying to me, Hey, the world is run by money,
so you might want to be interested in it, but
you know, we're having the education and you know, the
willingness to work in that world. I saw how important
money was, I saw how powerful it was, and I
saw that they were also. There wasn't just evil people
moving money around. There were very good people in the
world moving money around and making powerful decisions. And you know,
I think it was the CFO I was working at
the time when I was in college, at this like
the oldest financial firm in the country. I was working
in their marketing department, and he found out that I
had to you know, pay for this very awful surgery.
I had to get ass. I flew to Oregon for
and he actually showed up at my desk and he
was like, hey, I heard about the surgery, and I
just I just want to write you this check and
make sure you know that like we care about you.
I mean, I was like in my early twenties, I'd
never experienced anything like that, And I remember thinking, Wow,
I've never met a man in power that. Actually I
want to be a powerful woman someday and I want
to give it and I want to be able to
do things like that for people. And yeah, so I
have a lot to uh, I think. I think one
of my as an entrepreneur, one of the best pieces
of advice is like, don't quit your day job unless
you have to, like moonlight work towards it. Build build
the emotional muscle, the musculature of coming out of the
cluboset fully of you making a living with what you're doing.
Like there's there's nothing wrong with having a second job
if it's the job that you really love. Like build up,
build up your passion, your client tele your network until
you're ready to like push that ship into the sea
and go on a new journey. Like we can be
practical about this. I think a lot of people are like,
I've had a vision, and therefore I no longer need
to be practical. It's just like God will provide. It's like, yes,
God will provide it if you also provide for yourself.
It's that old that is like a cocreative situation.
Speaker 1: You know, right right. It's like the guy who was
on top of his house and the flood waters were
coming up and he's on his roof and a boat
comes by and he's like, God, please help me, Please
help me, Please help me a boat. A boat comes
by and they're like you can come in and like no, no, no,
God will provide. And then a helicopter comes by, like
we can you think. You're like no, no, no, God
will provide. And then he drowns. He goes up to
heaven and he goes, God, what did you say. I
sent a boat, I sent a helicopter. You've got to
kind of work with.
Speaker 2: Me here, Yeah, And that could be like I sent
a new client while you were working at your day job.
Like that could be the boat, you know. I you know,
as far as like facing the fears of what people
will say or do or think, you know, it's like, man,
I've had the worst defamition attacks. I've had people say
the most horrible things about me. I've had terrible heartbreaks
for coming out and being who I am. But at
the end of the day, when I go to sleep,
I am myself.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. And you're happy.
Speaker 2: I'm happy because I'm being who I really am and
I'm not trying to hide behind a desk or some
other version of myself that's not real. I can fall
asleep at peace with myself, and I can go back
to God at the end of my life and say
I did it. And I think that's the kind of
satisfaction that everybody really wants to feel. But you know,
maybe they just need to hear maybe this is a
part of them saying giving themselves permission. We're all here
to give ourselves permission. We've got to do that.
Speaker 1: The thing is when people talk about like, oh, what
are you going to think about what people say to
you or duty are You're like, yeah, in one hundred years,
no one cares, No one cares, no one in a
hundred years, no one cares. Alan Watts said this beauty.
And I've been using this put a lot on the show,
and I think it's so powerful. He goes, in one
hundred years, they'll be strangers in your house.
Speaker 2: No one remembers the haters.
Speaker 1: No one remembers. I mean, they just won't remember. No
one remembers the haters. No one remembers this. And if
you're lucky, they'll talk about you in a hundred years.
If you're lucky, If you're lucky, someone someone is still
mentioning your name or your of your presence on one
hundred years, in two or three hundred years, if they're
still talking to you, talking about you, it's a miracle.
It's an absolute miracle because look how many people we
talk about in history and how many millions and billions
of people have been on the spot of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mother Mary, Mother Mary, and talks about it is
your legacy of love. If you know that you came
here to create a legacy of love, and you live
out that legacy every day of your life, care what
anyone says about it, Like honestly, oh my god, you're
giving such a huge gift to the world. Why would
you punish yourself with ankle biters?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, and there's always and there's always an ankle biter, oh,
always an ankle.
Speaker 2: Bute, And those people are always the one that aren't
actually making a difference. So just sitting in the sidelines
of life, honestly.
Speaker 1: But because there are a lot of times people are
angry and if they see someone else succeed, they want
to bring them down. It's the crab in the bucket mentality.
Speaker 2: And they have no idea how hard people work to
actually make a difference, Like it takes so many countless
hours and effort and willingness.
Speaker 1: And it's stories they tell themselves, and so stories they
tell themselves. So like if in my story, you're talking
about something that contradicts something in my story that makes
me feel comfortable with living in this game, and you're
saying something that's against that, oh God, I have to
have to defend it. So I have to attack you
as opposed. If you feel comfortable within yourself and going
what you believe has no effect on my life. I mean,
unless you're physically doing something to me or people I love,
it means nothing to me. You could believe that unicorns
run the world. Good for you. I'm all about it.
I wish you the best with that and let me
know how that works out later. But it doesn't affect
me or my belief system or the story I have
constructed in my life to allow me to work walk
forward in this journey. And the thing with me is,
I'm very open, So I'm always listening, always learning something new.
I'm like, Oh, there's something else I can use in
my story. Oh there's something else I can use. Because
we're growing, we're evolving. You're not just because you learned
something when you were ten. I promise you, how much
stuff did you learn at ten? That is still true?
Even stuff stuff in the history books, for God's sakes,
was like No, that wasn't the way that went, you know.
So you're constantly evolving. Change is always there. So to
be open to change, to be open to new ideas,
that's how you evolve. That's absolutely how you have So
don't just don't listen to the haters everyone. If you
learn anything, if you learn anything in this conversation, don't
listen to the haters. They'll listen to. Let me ask you,
do you so you do channel right, so you are
able to connect to other energies if you will, like
a Buddha, Jesus things like that. Okay, do you mind
if I ask one of these these entities a couple
of questions and see what they say. How would that
work with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Let me just take a moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, my and I don't know who who's coming through,
so you can let me know who's coming through, or
if it's a combination of a bunch of them. What
do you see for humanity in this next coming year,
in the next five years. So many people are afraid
of what's coming. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 2: There's two sender masters that are stepping forward, the first
of which is ISIS And ISIS is stepping forward to share,
which I believe is extremely obvious to everyone. But the
development of AI and robotics and how suddenly all of
this will seem to be integrating within our daily life,
within human life. But what isis is sharing is this
has been planned for so long that after the last
reset of humanity, this was going to be introduced, you know,
right now, and with Pluto moving into Aquarius, and she's
saying humanity has survived previous civilizations of this kind of integration,
and she's asking us a question. She's like, how do
you want this chapter to unfold? Do you want to
put your head in the sand again as in previous
generations of exploring this kind of technology, or does humanity
want to choose an awakened conscious path of how they
are interacting with their development, that is, their technological development,
which is moving right now, honestly at the speed of light.
And so there's this invitation from a cinemestri isis where
she's asking us, how willing are you as a species
to start having higher conversations about how AI is being developed,
how robotics are going to be introduced into daily life,
and are you emotionally and spiritually prepared for that shift,
Like are you willing to expand your mind, your body,
heart and mind to have a conversation that has never
happened before for between humanity and its creations. So that's
the first step. The second step is Mother Mary stepping forward.
Thank you Mother Mary. Okay, And she's she's saying, we
went on this whole journey last year where I've channeled
all these new teachings from her about opening the heart chakra.
The manuscripts actually down the board behind me. I'm going
to be releasing it as a book, and Mother Mary
is sharing that there's there's going to be like a split,
which I think is very obvious to a lot of
late workers as well, over over the next over this
duration of Pluto and Aquarius, and it's those who who
choose the path of the heart, opening the heart chakra truly,
not as an idea, truly taking the time to go within, cleanse, clear,
and purge not just this lifetime of pain, but all
of your lifetimes of pain, to keep your heart fully
open as a beacon, as a lighthouse of truth and
sovereignty and divine love in this world. She's saying, these
will be the liberated ones, these will be the way
showers who know how to hold the bridge of light
between those who are choosing an awakened sovereign paradigm and
those who are choosing to become even more enslaved by
the agendas of this world. So there's going to be
an even more polarized chapter, shall we say, And the.
Speaker 1: Prayer.
Speaker 2: The goal is that if enough truly awakened souls were
to live in the residence of that sovereign paradigm, that
they could hold the light and they could keep the
bridge open for souls that are choosing to somehow escape
the level of oppression that is here and is coming
at a greater level. Okay, so who else is coming through? Okay,
this is a Sofia dragon. So the seraphim are coming
through to kind of end round out this dialogue about
our current moment in human history.
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and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: Human being this And they're saying, there, the polarization that's
happening now is so extreme that it's actually a part
of seating the potential of a new goal age of ascension.
But so many light workers think of the possibility of
a golden age of ascension is something that could happen overnight,
or something that could happen, you know, in a blink
without a lot of effort. And the dragons are asking,
what does it take to truly embody your sovereignty as
a species? What does it take to truly embody your
sovereignty as a single person as an individual? What kind
of willingness is required to usher in the levels of
ascension that your species is so desperately praying for. And
we're at a place in quantum reality, where the word
willingness needs to be our mantra befo, we're going to
make that quantum leap into a more enlightened and awakened
error for humanity. We must be willing to do what
is ours to do. Each of us came here with
a divine purpose to fulfill, and we, each, each of
our divine purposes, complete each other like a puzzle. And
willingness is going to be the deciding factor of the
breadth and scope of that sovereign new paradigm that is
emerging at this time. But everything that is being built
must be sustained, and then once sustained, it needs to
continue to expand, and that takes many hands of many hearts.
And so the sended Masters are offering to us at
this time that if we truly want what we say
we want, we must be willing to show up and
be what we want.
Speaker 1: Beautifully said. Beautifully said. If you can ask, isis because
she brought this up when we were talking about the
reset of humanity, that there's been multiple resets in the past.
Can she clarify what that means? Is that the younger Driest,
which was twelve thousand years ago was the last reset
with Atlantis and that kind of time period that I'd
love to hear, What how many times we've been reset
as a species to come back there again and again?
Speaker 2: There are too many resets to count. They were telling
like in that movie The Matrix, they were telling the
truth on themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh because the Matrix, Yeah, they've they've used the same
code a thousand times or something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, when Neo is confronting the architect, he's like, how
many times have I been Neo? It's like that. That's
the level of like people like, people go back to
the reset that's the most memorable and the collective memory,
because that's about as much as they can handle, because
it's so terrifying to think that, like maybe every hundred years,
humanity is reset and doesn't even know it.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how traumatic that would be to constantly
think about a set of controllers just really hitting a
button and everyone's gone and it's reset over and over again.
How do you live your life with that level of
annihilation consciousness? So it's more comfortable for humanity to think.
Speaker 3: Oh, that was thirty thousand years ago.
Speaker 2: In Atlantis, and it's like hmm, how about like one
hundred years ago, you know, how about like one hundred
years before that. And that's how powerful these controllers are
recreating the simulation, the similacrum of our physical reality. It's
super sick.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, it's very very interesting. All right. So my
next question is we've spoken about age.
Speaker 2: Do you speak in the words of isis? Because that
was a lot of my own interpretation of what she's
shown me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Part of the great awakening that is coming over the
next decade is for humanity to understand how traumatized it
has been with so many resets of its reality that
what does a reset do? It disorients a species from
knowing its true origins, what does a reset do disorients
a species from its own personal power and sense of
placement in the universe, not just in the world, not
just here on this planet. And so to humanity must
come into a level of healing and wholeness enough to
even be able to start to face the level of
control and trauma that it has survived of genetic mutilation.
It has survived with countless resets over the past hundreds
of thousands of years on the planet. And she's saying,
you can take heart in the fact that we're still here,
like these masters of light are still here, working steadily
and faithfully towards humanity's ascension beyond this enslavement. They haven't
gone anywhere. And it's why souls such as star seeds
and light workers choose to come back again and again
because we see the time looping that's happening here and
we want to break the loop.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So it's like, sorry, sorry, new age Rosie posy world,
Like it's we worse and at the same time and
better because what does this prove to us? It shows
us as a supirit coatures, we have these invincible souls
of light and divine power that can keep coming in
their dropping down into this matrix, to keep sharing the truth,
to keep waking people up. And it is making a difference.
It is making an impact. Like what's more important isis
is saying the form or the soul?
Speaker 1: The soul the soul?
Speaker 2: So if a world is decimated but billions of souls
are saved, what's more important? It's an interesting question. Again, sorry,
not the normal New Age thing to say, but.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, of course, so then let me ask
you this because this is a kind of a catchphrase
that it's been thrown around since the days of Buddha,
which is enlightenment. How does the ascendant masters define enlightenment
or spiritual awakening? And because it's a lot of people
think you have to sit in front of underneath the
abandon tree and wait until enlightenment comes, and you just oh,
I'm here, I'm enlightened now, and you walk around going
I am enlightened, Like, no, what is their definition of it?
Speaker 2: Brain Tara and her revelations in the Sofia Code, who
is considered into vent and Buddhism the mother of all Buddhas, right,
so we're talking about the original source of even the
concept of buddhiqu enlightenment. She shares with us in the
Sofia Code that enlightenment is simply the decision to look
into the light that you are and to never look away.
And she says, so much has made has been made
of this word enlightenment, but really it's simply to look
into the light of who you really are and to
never look away from it. Like, bring some lightness back
to enlightenment. She's just laughing while she's telling me this,
and I'm like, yeah, let's bring some light. And you know, well, fairness,
the trauma on this planet is so dense, the what
we have survived is so dark. It's like it takes
an extraordinary amount of effort to keep your focus upon
the light that you are. We have a lot of
hard feelings, we've got a lot of regrets, even a
lot of resentments about what we've survived, not just in
this lifetime and others. And so that decision to look
into the light that you are and never look away,
that's a big decision. It's why people like Yogananda in
the Age of the Guru or were necessary. But we're now,
we're living in the age of Aquarius, and so this
is the time where we all must access that inner
guru that knows how to look into the light that
you are and never look away. And that's why we
mentor with the USN and Masters, because they're like, Okay,
we get it. We're going to create this sovereign, protective
shield of light around you that you can actually keep
your focus long enough to know what's real. And what's
real is that you're divine.
Speaker 1: What does the collective or the ascended masters have to
think about our our collective awakening that is happening in
the planet right now. What where do they see it
going in the next few decades? Because there is an awakening,
there is a level en up, there's a level up.
There's there's no question, and there is those two powerful
there's those you were mentioning, the two the two energies,
the ones that want to stay in what they know
and don't want things to change. And then the other
energy that wants things to change and is pulling towards evolution, putting,
pulling towards a higher frequency. And there that's that's that bipolar. Uh,
the polarization that you were speaking of, will be right
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Speaker 2: In all my years of trenitious and masters, what they
have shown me is that you cannot fight against what's
broken and fix it. So the path for our next
level ascension evolution as a species is for us to
stay purely focused on what we want to create and
to be willing to disengage from what isn't working, and
to not bypass the deep, truly deep healing inner work
that needs to happen for us to be able to
not just focus on what we want to create, but
sustain it and expand it. Because you can create something,
but it takes a lot of parenting. It takes a
lot of responsibility and commitment to keep growing a sovereign
golden age. Like that's why any age will fall. It's
because people forget it. Take commitment, it takes show up,
it takes an everyday chopwood, carry water kind of the spirituality.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, but it's beautiful because it's not. I love
that you said that every age can fall because just
because you've reached a certain level. It's kind of like
I've got a I've got a six pack. Now I
have a six pack. Yeah, I've been I've worked really hard.
I've got this six pack. I am jacked. If you
don't continue to eat right and go to the gym
and work yourself out and do things, you will lose that.
And you could easily gain all your weight back and
do all the things that you were on let's say unhealthy.
Let's say you could gain a hundred pounds like that.
If you don't, if you don't maintain it, if you
don't put the work in.
Speaker 2: And this is why I love mentoring with you send
and masters, because they look at evolutionary arcs of time,
like in spans of a thousand years or ten thousand
or one hundred thousand years, but not just like what's
going to happen next year? You know, what's the astrology
for next year? They're like, so we're working on a
thousand years of ascension right now, and are you rolling
up your sleeves for day seventy two? You know, it's like,
you know, I don't mind that. To me, that's pragmatic.
To me, that makes sense. You know, when somebody says
the Golden Age is going to happen in a day,
I don't believe it because that Golden Age has to
be sustained and expanded and networked out to other people
that are also ready to receive it. And so the
awakening work that we're doing in this first huge quantum
awakening that you spoke of that's happening right now is
just the beginning. We have so much to do.
Speaker 1: So what does what did the estman masters have to
say about these institutions that have been that did at
one moment in time serve mankind even if they were
let's say, you know, they did, they had they serve
the purpose. Let's say that they serve mankind, they serve
the purpose. Like, it's a lot of established religion or
governments or these ideas of that time that are old
now and they just aren't working. The cracks are being
shown obviously. I mean, I come from the Catholic Church
that has cracks left and right.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, some pretty big cracks.
Speaker 1: There's some pretty big cracks exactly. And there's so many
other there's so many other institutions that are starting to fall,
Ollywood being one of them, and other things that you
can start seeing things they're like, wait a minute, what
happened at Ditty's house? Like is that really what was
happening at Diddy's idea? That was what's happening at Diddy's house?
Speaker 2: And whatever they're showing you in the mainstream media is
just the surface of what's really happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely so all these So what do they
have to say about these old institutions when they're going
to actually start to really break down? Go away, change, adapt,
maybe either adapt to change or just go away for
this new institution, these new ideas to take hold that
we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they're showing me this image of a baby,
and like the life span like this the lifespan of
a single individual. All right, So if you take that
life span and you extend it out a couple hundred
thousand years to represent a species, it's like religion and
government control. It's a learning phase. It's like if you
have a lot of newer souls that are that think
it's it feels safer and easier to be controlled and
told what to think. Then that's just training wheels for sovereignty,
because eventually you're going to want to kick those goddamn
training wheels right off your bike and go for a ride.
And so I think there's some weird separation. It's in
u age spirituality that somehow the human species isn't parallel
to just a single person. Like we all go through
the maturation process. We all know what it's like to
be a screaming toddler and someone and we feel safe
as someone is controlling us, putting us to bed and
telling us what to do and what to think and
want to drink and want to eat and want to go.
You know, it's like humanity is moving out a toddlerhood.
Speaker 1: Well, that's okay, that makes sense now, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So because the challenge with that analogy is that humanity
has been enslaved for so long that it's hard to
make that analogy because not only are we dealing with
like toddlerhood in terms of evolutionary arcs, we're dealing with
like how do we navigate the depth of collective trauma? Yeah,
like that level of like worldwide wars and atrocities for
thousands of years. Of course people are going to need religion.
They can barely they can they barely have a moment
to themselves. They're surviving a slave metrix, they're surviving the
atrocities of these wars, they're surviving a financial slave system.
Speaker 1: They need something, they need something to hold on to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just trying to keep their kids alive and
food on the table.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just like, of course, religion served its purpose. It
was five minutes out of a week of survival that
they could hopefully find some peace in a moment to themselves.
And I think we as a society forget that, Like
most of humanity is just busy surviving and religion is
like an easy way to kind of supplement that reality
and you don't have to They certainly don't have to
think too hard. That's very treat you know, because thinking,
sometimes thinking hard thoughts gets you in trouble.
Speaker 1: So why are you asking these crazy quesquestions?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why are you asking like silly questions of like
what what is the meaning of life? You know? Why
are we here? So?
Speaker 2: You know, to for religion to crumble means that enough
of the population of humanity has to feel strong enough
to go within and find a genuine form of spirituality
for themselves. And that's what we're starting to have, what
we're starting to see happen. That took a long time
to get there though.
Speaker 1: And it's still we're still there. We're still you and
I are working on that right now. With this conversation,
I mean, this conversation is going to hopefully open up
some people's eyes and they might not agree with everything
we've said, but they might pick up a couple of
nuggets here there, or maybe a couple of seats may
be planted that they go off and read a book,
or they go off and watch a show, or they
go off and you know, pick up the Sophia Code
and whatever that is. It's it's there. I always tell people,
don't throw the baby out with the bath water, you know,
just because everything that is said in a conversation isn't
exactly what you wanted to hear, there might be one
or two nuggets in there. I find that all the
time in shows and movies and documentaries and books. You know,
there's little moments of things that you can grab on
that that might help you.
Speaker 2: So there's a really good analogy with what's featured in
the Sophia Code. I've been teaching about the Sofia Code
for ten years now. In the beginning of the movement,
so many people that came only wanted to hear from
Mother Mary or Kwanyin or isis like they needed a
human face to connect with the message. Now I have
all these people coming and they're like, I don't want
to I want to hear from the dragons, and I'm like,
who are you? You know, They're like, when are you
going to start talking more about the Star Nation? And
I'm like wow, So the shift is happening, you know,
But those those those religious faces, and of course the
Sofia Code is offering their original a source teachings, not
the religious teachings of these figures. Sure, but you know
those those were That's safety for a lot of people.
They don't want to be in religion, but the face
and the association with your religion brings safety to them.
It's a stepping stone.
Speaker 1: No question, no question. Now I'm going to ask you
a few questions, ask all my guests. Okay, what is
your definition of living a fulfilled life? We'll be right
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to the show.
Speaker 2: Staying true to my heart living a life dedicated to
creativity and a sovereignty.
Speaker 1: Now, if you had a chance to go back in
time and speak to little Kaya, what advice would you
give her?
Speaker 3: Bitcoin No just kidding, uh no, No, that's.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but I mean I mean there, I'm like,
I mean like, if I.
Speaker 2: Got to say everything, yeah, I would say I would
say the world's not ready for you, but it would
be who you are anyways, because the world needs you.
Speaker 1: How do you define God or Source?
Speaker 2: I define God or Source as the unconditionally loving presence
that created all that is.
Speaker 1: What is love.
Speaker 2: Love is a consciousness that we get to align with
to live in our highest potential and experience our greatest joy.
Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
Speaker 2: To love and to be loved?
Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you the
Sofia Code and the amazing work you're doing in the world.
Speaker 2: You can find out about my work at Caira dot
com and that's spelled ka I A r A dot com.
And we also have two free spiritual offerings, the Heaven
on Earth Prayer Collective and the Sovereign Soul Alliance for
Survivors that you can find out about and join us
for free at the Sophia Codefoundation dot org.
Speaker 1: And do you have any parting messages for the audience.
Speaker 2: Well, first, I just want to say thank you. This
has been so fun and enjoyable. And yeah, I just
thank you. Yeah. I always get a little nervous before our podcasts, like,
oh man, where are they going to ask? This has
been so lovely. Thank you for all of your considerate
ways and for everything that you bring to the table
and your wonderful questions. And I think I would say
I think I would just close with like, the greatest
thing you can offer this world is to love yourself,
and that's that can take the rest of your life
to learn how to do the way that your heart
really needs you.
Speaker 3: To love it.
Speaker 2: So here for you if you're ready to learn how
to love your own heart with the Sophia Code teachings,
that's what I would share.
Speaker 1: Hi, thank you so much for coming on the show
and for your bravery and for the work that you're
doing in the world to help awaken the planet. So
I appreciate you, my dear. Thank you again.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Alex. What a pleasure to be here.
Thank you.
Speaker 1: I want to thank Hia so much for sharing her
story with all of us. If you want to get
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