Speaker 1: NHL Best Bets for Thursday, January fifteenth. Welcome to Puck Time,
wager Talk TV. Andrew McGinnis and Don Buster with you
here today to break things down.
Speaker 2: Carmine has the day off, but don't worry.
Speaker 1: We'll have him back tomorrow for his six and sixty
segment and much much more. But look forward to chatting
hockey with Buster. And you guys know, if Buster and
I are talking together, we're talking a little bit of
the blue bla and rouge. We got to talk other
games as well as some great games. There was a
smaller slate on Wednesday, a rare small slate these days
in the NHL, but a bunch to get to and
I cannot wait for that. Shout out to all of
you guys to watch yesterday. All kinds of likes and
comments on the YouTube video. Let's try and pack the chat,
pack all those likes in and have a great show
here today on a Thursday. Hey, Karen is in the
Carm's in the comments already. What's up, carm Buster? Good
morning to you man, Always good to see you.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good?
Speaker 4: Andrew?
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 4: I see Carmine already keeping an eye on what we're
doing right already, right from the start. I'm going to
try to to be my best Carmine Mianco for the show.
Speaker 3: I don't think I'll tell any stories.
Speaker 4: Or anything about my buddy Joe or Rob Brailey or anything,
but I will do the best Carmine I can. And
as for today's show, like you say, of course, with
me and you on, we have to do. The three
games we'll be doing is Montreal Buffalo, the Islanders in
Editton that will be a good game, and the Hated
Leafs and the Vegas Golden Knights our three games. Andrew,
you'll have your little play that you do so the
pod play, I know the yours is the same game parlay,
and we will have Carmines pod play.
Speaker 3: Up as well.
Speaker 4: And congratulations, Carmine won that pod play last night. He's
been just killing that segment, killing it all year. So
let's keep that going in twenty twenty. And again, no
one wants to hear us go on about stuff.
Speaker 3: I actually passed last night in the NHL.
Speaker 4: I took the day off because it was a brutal Tuesday,
like a lot of us had a brutal Tuesday. So
sometimes it's best that you just take a breather and
you get back at it.
Speaker 3: I was back at it bright and early today. How'd
you make go last night?
Speaker 1: Andrew one in one day for me yesterday and I
laid a bit more chalk on a play than I
usually do, Buster, And I know you don't really lay
too much either, But last year the team totals were
so good to me, like I just found that price
that I liked. It was a great way for me
to get in on stuff with a great price. And
this year I haven't had success with them, so I
released the Devil's. I think it was close to one
fifty around that that ballpark. And someone that I talked
to every day and we both do a lot of
team totals together, he said.
Speaker 2: Whoa minus one fifty? Like where did that come from?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm tired of taking team total overs and
then they don't get to four, but they still win.
And then yesterday, of course the Devil's three to two
win in overtime, and I'll tell you, if I would
have had the team total over in that one, I
think a remote would have gone through my TV. Because
sometimes you just need the win, right, And of course
you have to pay the price of minus one fifty
for them to just win. So there's a time and
a place for the team totals. I cashed one the
other day with Utah over Toronto. But and then of
course I had the La versus Vegas game and I
did lose that one. I had LA and we give
out the under on the show, so at least that's that.
But unfortunately we did lose LA two overtime games though,
And you and I were talking before the show. You know,
with the overtime games, we'll try and go at least
one in one. But once I saw a New Jersey
win the two, and oh was there for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can split those overtime games, I can't
win them at all. But if you can split them,
that's so that's great for sure. So I guess we
should get right into it, Andrew with our Montreal Buffalo.
I know the chef's probably already going, no, no, we
don't want ten minutes of Montreal Buffalo. But I think
we both will have some good analysis. We can both be.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, bias and know that Montreal's going to
win tonight. But okay, but what do you think about tonight's.
Speaker 1: Game, well busterer, looking at this one like first and
foremost looking from a market perspective, look forward to hearing
your thoughts on this as well. But just looking at
odds logic of course our favorite you know, odd screen
to use, we saw a slight, slight, slight opener favoriting
the Buffalo Sabers, if not a Pickham number, and then
a lot of spots the Montreal Canadians got hit and
we started to see the minus one eighteens, minus one
twenties across the board. So I don't know we can
really call it an overnight flip, but I was a
little bit surprised by the number that we saw here,
especially considering those Buffalo Sabers played on Wednesday night and
a lot of times I like to say, if a
number is weird, then you take the play on the
weird side, and that would have been Buffalo. But then
overnight money comes in, you get a little bit of
a market correction and it turns to minus one twenty
ish on these Montreal Canadians. Now, looking at some of
my new websites I've been using for my metrics, here,
a lot both these teams playing very similar from an
offensive perspective. But Buffalo right now, as far as they're
underlying defensive metrics are where it concerns me the most.
They're still giving up a ton of chances. And we're
not gonna sit here and act like, you know, the
game that they just played was against an offensive juggernaut.
We've been talking about taking Philadelphia Flyer games under or
team total under for a long time. They just don't
have any offensive firepower that Philadelphia Flyer team.
Speaker 2: And that can hurt them.
Speaker 1: So when I look at this game, I am a
little bit interested in backing this Montreal Canadians team. But
I'll tell you one thing that I've learned, and I
can't explain this why buster, but it seems to me
that this year back to backs, they all they used
to mean overs to me. Three games and four nights
they used to mean overs to me, and I'm starting
to see some lower scoring games with that. So I'm
actually gonna probably take a look at maybe a little
bit of the under or if not early game under.
But I think this Monshaw Canadians team bounces back. They
had what was it a two nothing lead on the
Washington Capitals and they blow that lead lose in overtime.
I guess they're happy to get the point. But a
lot of people, and you know as well as I do, Buster,
because you know you've been around longer than me and
you've seen it. I listen do a lot of radio
shows and podcasts about the has the overreaction after getting
just one point. Still, it goes to show how crazy
the media can be. But they just got to nothing
lead and they sat back there, They really sat back.
But how do you feel about this number?
Speaker 2: Overall?
Speaker 1: I'll go back to you, how do you feel about
this number? The overnight like the minor flip here, I
mean your thoughts overall? I mean I expect I did
to see a little bit more something for the Montreal Canadians.
It took some time to come in, but it was
a little bit of a peculiar opening number considering the
back to back situation for the Sabers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to tell you.
Speaker 4: Andrew, I am a little surprised that it went up
for Montreal, being h one twenty because again, Buffalo, after
winning last night the whether fourteen and two now their
last sixteen games, and although it is a back to back,
playing third game and four nights a whole bit Montreal,
same thing. They're both in a bad situation. But Montreal
didn't play last night, and as you discussed Andrew Geez,
Montreal didn't deserve a better fate. You know, they washed
the polls, their goaltender, they get that, they get that goal,
and then.
Speaker 3: We lose in overtime.
Speaker 4: So you know, it happens like you say, we get
the point there. But I, like, I have to admit
because Buffalo, I've I've been doing it. I was at
a couple of games before I came down to Mexico
and Buffalo, so I hadn'ton play there also, and Buffalo
has been playing really good hockey at home. Now I
think the back to back will hurt them maybe to
start the game. I'm actually looking at Montreal for the
first period on the money line. That to me seems
like it could be a really good bet because Montreal
they've been playing, they've been playing decent, They're won six
there were six and three in the last ten. Like
I said, the Washington game should be maybe seven and
two or six and three last night, should be maybe
seven and two last night, you know, if you look
at it that way, So.
Speaker 3: I do like that.
Speaker 4: Montreal also, you know you're talking about your full game, Andrew.
Speaker 3: Montreal also has won.
Speaker 4: Eight in the last ten against Buffalo, so there might
be something there. It might be a bad spot to Buffalo,
even though they won last night. Jeezu, I know you
guys do those analytics and everything. They didn't look that good.
Speaker 5: I think they only had like sixteen seventeen, not many,
but they got five goals behind the guys, So that's
that happens happens in hockey.
Speaker 3: Obviously, I can just touch out the total if you like.
Speaker 4: Here look half under.
Speaker 3: So again, Buffalo have gone over in five.
Speaker 4: Straight games, and like you had mentioned, I'm like you
you actually, right up until January first, basically those overs
were happening.
Speaker 3: I'm back to backs three and four.
Speaker 4: But since we've hit January first, that has not been happening,
and there are there are more unders, as you had said.
So uh, Like I say, Buffalo's got over five straight games,
but it's six and a half, and then that gives
me pause. I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna go with
our halves. I think has full game could be good,
but I think what's better is halves in the first period.
Speaker 1: On the money line, Andrew, I don't blame you for that,
Like get off to a really good start, and as
you you talked about, they didn't really look at great
yesterday buff flow and as I mentioned, you know, some
of their offensive stuff has looked okay lately with some
of these young guns starting to perform better.
Speaker 2: But when it comes down to it, it's a lot
about defense, right.
Speaker 1: And one thing I will say that's kind of interesting
about this matchup that we're not used to, is this
game actually kind of is more important than it's meant
for a long time, right, Like the Buffalo Sabers haven't
really had meaningful games against the Habs. But now I
can't believe we're saying this, And car Mine's in here
saying he's surprised. He's we're not wearing our jerseys here, but.
Speaker 2: So, you know, very true.
Speaker 1: One thing that Karen did say, though, it's worth mentioning
fourteen and two since firing the general manager is pretty impressive,
Like they went on that long. I mean, I gotta say,
I know we got to get to our next game,
but I just want to say buster, like it makes
me laugh because it goes to show that there's eighty
two games these guys play. There's different things that people
can get more fired up about and stuff like that,
whether it's a coach or gam Like the GM one
makes me laugh. How can you get fired up after
a GM getting fired? But I'm not gonna lie to
you if you ask me that I've embraced it, though.
Like I had a five percent play two days ago
on Columbus. I liked the spot, I liked how they've
been playing. But I would be lying to you right
now on screen if I didn't tell you part of
the five percent play was the new coach.
Speaker 2: And it's just that's different.
Speaker 4: Though, And that's different. A new coach is different. That
GM didn't come in and give everybody one hundred grand
to play better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's a toilet. I agree with you.
Speaker 4: With a different coach for sure, that first game, that's
a handicap for years and years ago. First game with
a new coach and play that team right. I would
have actually played Columbus that night, but I thought it
was steep.
Speaker 3: It was one forty two. I believe it was a
little steek just for that situe.
Speaker 4: But that's the situation you played, but a GM, I mean,
something was happening. You know that it's not open the
media that he actually gave them. I don't know what
he what a GM is gonna really mean. It's just
a coincidence. And they were kind of on the verge anyways.
Like I said, I seen them play at home a
couple of times, and they played some decent hockey. They
shut down McDavid that one game. The whole line actually
they beat him in five to one or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it was there.
Speaker 4: Their problem has always been been goaltending, and now Peck
has given him some goaltending.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say his full name.
Speaker 4: I know some guys in the chatlet made Carmine say it,
but but yeah, so and Ellis has been doing all
right for him as well.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to h hopefully. I think that you know,
we're gonna see them going a run. But I'm looking
forward to seeing what ends up happening in that metropolitan
division overall, because Pittsburgh, I mean, you can ever count
them out. It's funny because part of me is cheering
for the Penguins as an East coaster, like in Sydney, Crosby,
and part of me has been betting against them all years.
It's like, I don't know what to do here with them.
Let's move on to our next one, though, Buster. We've
got the Edmonton Oilers and New York Islanders going head
to head in this one, both teams coming off a loss.
The Oilers kind of they fell victim to that rapid
revenge type of thing where they beat the Preds like
two weeks ago, and then they lost to the Preds
just a couple of days ago. It's hard to beat
the same team twice, it really is. And the Islanders
they lost to the Jets. Looking at the number here
at odds logic, here, this one I saw open around
minus one seventy five. Money came in on the aisles,
We're seeing minus one sixty and total is at six
and a half.
Speaker 2: How do you approach this game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, Andrew, I think that that number
should have been down because I had wrote in my
notes that I thought I seen one seventy five. I
thought that was a little bit too high for the
year because the Anders haven't been playing decent hockey. They
are three and two, but they lose in a shootout.
Speaker 3: And they're right in that game right to the end.
Speaker 4: With Winnipeg so little puck clock or whatever, who knows,
he could be five and zero.
Speaker 3: Edmonton are also three and two.
Speaker 4: Like you said, they did lose and that against Nashville.
I believe it was overtime or maybe a shootout. And
they are also like three and two their last five games.
But Edmonton, they're very good at home, and you know what,
they're very good at beating the Islanders. They've won six
straight at home against the Islanders, although in their last
six games they're three and three at home, so there's
something to say about that. Third game in four nights
never helps either. But like I say, Edmonton being at home,
and you know, when they lose a game, you know,
I don't like to go not gonna say that I'll
bet Edmonton, but I definitely don't want to go against them.
Speaker 3: And be especially when they're at home.
Speaker 4: Right. So, like I said, I thought the price seemed
a little high, but now that it's coming down that
that seems to be a fair price if that's what
you're depending on the side that you want. I actually
was looking I was kind of hoping i'd go the
other way. I thought, maybe if if people start hammering Edmonton,
because Edmonton is a team that everybody likes to met, right,
so if they started hammering them, got up to one
eighty eighty five, maybe one ninety, I would come back
and take the Islers plus one and a half maybe
minus one thirty five, one.
Speaker 3: Forty on the puck line. I thought that might have
been a good bed.
Speaker 4: And it's still maybe it's early this morning, so we'll
see what happens there if that comes around. I actually
when it comes to the total here, I kind of
lean a bit under. I know that's crazy because the
Islanders have went six of the seven over Edmonton I
think have won five of us last six over.
Speaker 3: But when these teams get together, seven.
Speaker 4: Unders went over and I gotta believe both these clubs
aren't happy with all these overs. You know, you need
to you need to play defense to win in the NHL.
You need to, and I know Edmonton has struggled on
that end of defense.
Speaker 3: Islanders can play some really good defense. Uh.
Speaker 4: But I got a feel, just again, gut feeling, which
so I don't bet with gut field, but just have
a feeling that this is gonna be a lot a
close game, a tight checking game, a little bit more
not to what they've been playing like lately because they've
been just playing massovers. Uh. The only game that they
did play was four to two Islanders beat him this year, So.
Speaker 3: I would lean to the under. I don't think it's
gonna make my card, but that.
Speaker 4: Just gives a little analysis on how I'm thinking about
this game.
Speaker 3: You have to watch out though.
Speaker 4: Because Eddon has that number one power play, So if
there's a ton of power plays Andrew, then you know
you get that at over.
Speaker 3: But both these teams are.
Speaker 4: Really good on the are pretty good on the penalty kill,
so that also comes into play here. But six and
a half seems a little seems a little a little
touch high, even though they both played some oars.
Speaker 1: That's a good point and funny enough. I guess it
kind of makes sense because of the matchups and such.
But this Oilers team does play a bit better defense
at home as well. You've talked about the success they
had a Yeah, they seem to be a better defensive team.
I don't know, they're they're less sloppy, they make less mistakes.
Just looking at the goal differential for them, it's nothing crazy,
but I believe they've allowed what is it here, like
ten or twelve less goals at home than they have
on the road. And you know, they just seem to
have been playing a much better brand of hockey here
with this Oilers team.
Speaker 2: You're coming off the loss like they are here the
four three one.
Speaker 1: I thought that was one of those games where they
still created some chances. Like you know, you talk about
how carm and I like to look at some of
these numbers.
Speaker 2: Buster.
Speaker 1: Sometimes what I like to do, especially is just to
go back and kind of look to see after the game,
you know, which team deserved a better fate, you know,
and how the game actually played out. And some of
the websites that we like to use will give you
a percentage, and a lot of people know that website
money Puck, and well, this website gave the Oilers a
sixty four percent chance to have won that game against
the Prebs. However they lost for three. You know, they're
playing good hockey right now. And what's crazy, you know
that the McDavid's pretty much already achieved a point per
game status, Like we're talking January fifteenth. The guys having
a phenomenal year, right now. But the thing is, I
get what you're saying with that over. The only thing
is are with the under. The only thing is is
that I have been seeing the Islanders give up a
lot of opportunities lately. I find that this team is
a little bit of a different team than they were
the past few years. Like if you wanted to have
a nap, you could toss on a New York Islanders
game and get ready for another game to come on,
because this.
Speaker 2: Game, this team was not exciting for a long time.
Speaker 1: You put Matthew Schaefer on there, you put some of
these exciting offensive weapons on there, and these guys started
to be a lot more are fun. I sometimes do
get concerned buster about some line movement, but it only
affects me probably in some games. Look, I get where
you're coming from with the under. But as much as
I talk to you about having the just win mindset,
more and more of these days, this is an Edmonton
team that whenever I back them, I take them to
get to four goals. Very seldom will we see the
Oilers win and they don't score four goals.
Speaker 2: It's just they're not a two to one team.
Speaker 1: They're not a three to one team, Like, I think
that if we're gonna take an under, and I'm not
gonna put words in your mouth here, Buster by any means,
but the Islanders team total under is two and a
half at plus one oh five, so I could win
my bet and if if the Oilers win five to two,
we can both be happy. But I just think that
this is gonna be one of those games where if
the Oilers win, they put an emphasis stamp on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know what, Andrew, like I said, this
probably won't make my ca I just I just was
because automatically you look at that, you see the Islanders
on all the overs, you see Edmonton with all the overs,
you just say over right. But again, I just I
just look at the game because of because of the
situation for Edmonton too, they lost the last game. They
can't be happy about giving up all these goals as
well the how they've been playing. And the Islanders too,
because these like you said, you know, the Islanders are
normally a team that would.
Speaker 3: Just uh you know, play two one games through one game.
Speaker 4: Stuff like that. I just it's just the feeling, like
it's you know what I mean, Like we've watched I've
watched just hockey and for fortunately for forty five years.
Hopefully I get another. I'm not gonna get I'm not
going to get another forty five, but maybe maybe twenty five.
Uh but yeah again, I just yeah, can't be three
two half of the first period automatically. I'm just saying,
if looking at the game and look at how these
teams play, the coaches have to be saying enough's enough.
At what point maybe enough's enough once they're you know,
have went over in nine out of ten and ten
of eleven. I don't know. I'm just saying for this
game here, I can't bet Edmonton at one seventy one
eighty because you can't trust them a lot, although you
want to because you know, you.
Speaker 3: Play Edmonton after a loss.
Speaker 4: Don't really want the Islanders because they have been on
this long it's a road trip, So I'm not sure
I want to play them on the puck lab. I
mean on the money line. But like I said, if
I gotta bet, my best bet would be if Edmonton
went to one ninety, I would bet.
Speaker 3: The Islanders on the puck line. As far as the.
Speaker 4: Total, I'm probably not betting under the sixth malf it's
more of a cautionary tale to everyone. Just to it's
just not an automatic over. That's the way I look
at it, and just just to more thing. And you're
about your that money, pucker puck whatever you guys do
your analytics. I was listening yesterday's show, like I always,
you don't be the good team guy. I watched the
show when I can. Sometimes I don't get to watch
it live, but.
Speaker 3: I watch it.
Speaker 4: Always make sure to go in and put a like.
So that's it.
Speaker 3: I know Andrew were always asking about that.
Speaker 4: I never asked about that because I only got ten
minutes and then Carmine's trying to rifle me off the show.
So so today I get a chance to say, hey, guys,
just give give us a like. And so I know
it's I know it's Carmine's not here, but you know what,
give us a like. There's a lot of guys watching
the show. There's no reason why we can't get a
few hundred likes. Would you usually ask for, Andrew, I
think three hundred or something.
Speaker 3: That'd be nice for you guys to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be nice to you if you guys do that.
But anyways, you're talking about the Ottawa and Vancouver game
from the other night, and it was either you or
Carmine saying, how you know there is expected goals for
four to three?
Speaker 3: You should have you know?
Speaker 4: Well, I watched the game. I don't need no analytic
thing to do. I know that if you bet it
over kind of got screwed. But I also know and
there's a couple. There's all the guys in this chat
who've been watching us for years and watching you in
Carmine daily. A lot of lot of sharp guys, and
one of them, I'm not sure who's so sot to apologies,
but mentioned ninety percent.
Speaker 3: Of the money was on that over.
Speaker 4: Those are the kind of things that you kind of
do want to stay away from. But when your guy
like me and I've already bet the over at two
o'clock in the morning, you're not realizing that's going to
be the case, so that you know that becomes a
little problematic sometimes. But to me, Andrew, I don't care
what does analytics say. At the end of the day,
it's wins or losses. I lost that game. It doesn't
matter if that game should have been six y five.
It doesn't agree if Edmonton if Edmonton should have won
against Nashville, they didn't. They lost. So does that bring
to the other again, Maybe I'm too much old school
about the analytics.
Speaker 2: Because I no, no, I'm with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I just wonder how I'm with you on it. Who's
when they take those shots or whatever?
Speaker 4: Do they know? Because would you rather have Connor McDavid
with those great opportunities? Do they track every player and
how good he is in that expected shot? Maybe they do.
I don't know enough about it. But to me, you
got guys that have point blank chances and guess what,
they're not scoring the goal because they're gonna shoot it
right at the right at the goaltender. And you got
you guys that are snipers that you give them that
chance it's in the net. So to me, I don't
know how you analytic that.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a podcast I listened to and a
good friend and and we used to work together, Jimmy Murphy.
He does it with Pierre maguire and of course you're
not you'll know that name.
Speaker 2: Buster and I love good friends with him.
Speaker 1: Great, yeah, great guy. I've watched a lot of his
stuff lately. I actually got a chance to meet him
and their podcast. You'll appreciate this. The podcast that they
name together is called The Eye Test. And Pierre and Jimmy. Yeah,
Pierre and Jimmy both look. I'm sure they're aware of
the analytic all that stuff, but they watch the games
just like yourself. And trust me, my girlfriend, if she
was here, she would tell you I watched the games.
Probably should watch less games than I do because I'm
I've finished the Habs game. Oh what are you watching now?
Oh there's another game on. There's always another game on
that that's her famous quote. There's always a game is
always So I'm watching the games, and I think the
way that I like to use it is, I guess,
not as much to like look at how you lost.
It's more so to look at you try and put
look at a team's trajectory, like, for example, like the
Habs and the Sabers game. Right, So some of the
websites that I use, they indicate that a lot of
the teams that both those teams right now are playing similar.
But the defensive metro indicated that Buffalo should show regression.
So that was kind of cool for me to look
at because you know, I'm not watching every Buffalo Sabers game,
so that having that website tell me, hey, look they're
playing well offensively, but you know their defense is kind
of leaking a bit.
Speaker 2: So I can use it in my handicap.
Speaker 1: Like trust me, me and you are the same as
far as like it tests and stuff like that. But
I'd be lying to you if I didn't say I
implemented that in my handicapping. It's more so like it
gives me hints. Like it's like someone telling me, hey,
look this team or this goalie's not playing great, or
you know, stuff like that. Like you and I. I
know we got to move on. But you and I
are the perfect example of this because we're Montreal Canadian fans.
During that twenty twenty one run. Everybody knows that in
ninety percent of those games.
Speaker 2: They should have lost.
Speaker 1: But Carry Price was the man. You know, Carrie Price
was the man. So shout out to all the guys
here in the chat. We got quadruple m monchhal is
a better team's weird Buffalo wins, any goalie Montreal wins.
Tonight love to hear it, Clemenza, He says, God, here, late,
what do we got let's go. We'll get to some
more picks here in a second. Uh, just a little
tip for you guys on the weekend, bow Knicks will
not beat Josh Allen. Well, we're getting some football talk
here on the show.
Speaker 3: I hope he's right about that because the Thig Bill's fans.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, he's right about that.
Speaker 1: Titan, ct Kylie Reynolds, Chuck Pod, all kinds of guys
here in the chat.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm pumped for a big bit, big day here today, Buster,
and we'll keep promoting the same thing we've been promoting here,
the seven Day all acts. That's sixty nine dollars. All
kinds of stuff worth grabbing, guys. But I always tell you,
and we're not trying to be salesy. Both of us
are not those type of handicappers, and maybe it'd be
better for us if we were. But if you're gonna
hop on with us, take the seven day pass, you know, uh,
five percent, thirty five bucks, A regular pick is twenty
five bucks. You're gonna get everything for one whole week
for sixty nine dollars, a great deal under ten bucks
a day Buster. It's a fantastic deal, and you do
multiple sports. I got to ask you, actually, before we
get back to the show, are you looking forward to
golf being back.
Speaker 4: I am looking forward to golf being back. I will
probably just put out plays for the big majors because
that's where I've had a lot of success. It's just
with college basketball, I want to spend a little bit
more time concentrating on that, especially when we have that
Olympic break. I've been doing pretty well in college basketball,
so although the last few days I've I've lost the
last three, but I've had a good start to the season.
And but yeah, I will be putting out packages on
the majors because I've had good luck.
Speaker 3: I've actually been to Augusta, I've been to St.
Speaker 4: Andrews. I am a big golf fan, but last year
was a rough year in golf for me. So again,
just sometimes you have to cut back.
Speaker 3: A bit in those sports. But Andrew saying just I
know we have to get to the next game.
Speaker 4: I think we're both trying to stop us from having
to talk about the leaves. But saying that, I know
that you say about the regression Buffalo's fourteen and two
common sense, I don't mean the website that tell me, they're.
Speaker 3: Going to regress. They regressed actually last night, but still won.
They didn't play it at all. So let's hope they
play that bad tonight and montre All beat him.
Speaker 4: Montre All beat them in the first period, which I'll
have that playout and montre All beat him. So but again,
I get it, and I get it because I'm an
old guy. I do.
Speaker 3: You're setting your ways on how how you watch hockey.
Speaker 4: I do look at this analytics from time to time
because you guys will send me stuff.
Speaker 3: But I just yeah, it's it's about winning losses. Brother,
it's about winning, and I don't want.
Speaker 4: I don't care because I've watched the game and I
know I don't care that I lost and I should
have won. No, I lost, that's it.
Speaker 2: You lost the back. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I've
heard Andy Lang and Yannie the Greek have that conversation
on all that's the conversation I have.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've talked about that with like getting the best
of the number, Like if you bet a team minus
one forty and the line went up to minus one eighty,
but they ended up losing four to one. Do you
feel better about the loss? Well, you still lost. He
still lost the game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: For example, Andrew the last three college basketball games, I
had a team I had, I had them plus one
and a half the line. They were a three and
a half point favorite. Once it went to you know,
the game time.
Speaker 3: I had a total. I had like four or five
points in the total. I lost them both. I had
the best of the number.
Speaker 4: Huge. Sometimes that always doesn't work, And truthfully, you know,
with all the information out.
Speaker 3: There and everything, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 4: By right, if you always get the best of the number,
you should be winning all the time. But I don't
know how many shows I've watched people saying how they've
got the US the number is lost, right, Yeah, it
seems to be way more happening like these last couple
of years than ever did because it was never really
liked that.
Speaker 1: But we got to comment here and they love the
Mexican blanket from you here loving the Mexicans.
Speaker 2: Great to see that.
Speaker 1: Bring it back, Turbo says two Montreal guys talking me
into betting Montreal.
Speaker 2: Lol.
Speaker 1: All right, Buss, let's get back on track. I gotta
get your thoughts on this one here. Look, uh, there's
so much I could say about the drama going into
this game, but I'll save that for a different post
on social media. At the end of the day, this
game is not taking place in Toronto, but it still
is the first time Mitch Marner will play his former team.
Here's the one thing I'm gonna say, and I'm sure
we have some Maple Leaf fans that watch the show.
If you guys don't miss him so much, if you
guys don't like him anymore, why do you keep talking
about him? Like how many people say that they're over
their ex girlfriend, but they keep talking about them every day,
or you keep calling her and texting her. Why are
you guys talking about Mitch Marner on Twitter every day?
If you don't miss them, if you don't miss them,
then stop talking because you know, you know what Vegas
fans aren't talking about you.
Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about so that that makes me laugh.
Speaker 4: But that's that's a great analogy, Andrew, that's a great
analogy with the girl.
Speaker 3: It makes a great analogy.
Speaker 2: But they do.
Speaker 4: Well, they do, you know, and they should and they
made a mistake. But the problem is he didn't want
to play there right. When you have a toxic environment,
sometimes things just have to change, and obviously that Toronto,
there's obviously problems, like like I come on here tons
of time seeing how great their talent is, but they
just have a way of not being able to win it.
A lot of times.
Speaker 3: It has to do with goaltending.
Speaker 4: I know Wall has been playing well for them, and
look what happened to their last game. They go into
Salt Lake City and they just don't show up, but
they beat Colorado. This team has to be the most it.
Speaker 3: Consistent team I've seen.
Speaker 4: They're just you know and saying that though they had
one for their last five. So they're playing good now, right,
But did that game in Salt Lake City? Like screw
them for this game? Does that mean now with marn
or maybe are they are they thinking about that? I
don't know.
Speaker 3: The beautiful thing for them, even though it's a third.
Speaker 4: Game, four night situation, they didn't they didn't play last night.
Vegas had a real tough game against La actually went
to overtime. And I think I think you see in
Toronto club have to show some pride after just laying
down against Utah the other night. They have to show
some pride here. I'm not sure if I want to
be betting them for the full game. They are getting
some nice plus money. But what I do like, and
again out of pure principle, I rarely even watch a
Leaf game, but I will be watching because I think
this is gonna be a very interesting game, maybe because
of the Martter factor, and because I think it's just
gonna be a great hockey game tonight.
Speaker 3: And I always love great hockey, regardless if it's the
hated Leaves.
Speaker 4: And I'm actually made a play, believe it or not,
put out to my clients already for Toronto getting a
little plus money for the first period on the money line.
Speaker 3: I gotta believe that it just takes Vegas a little,
maybe a period or so to get those legs back.
Speaker 4: Just a real tough game last night in La Real tough,
and then you've got to come back for twenty four
hours later and play here. And Toronto has to be
thinking to themselves, you know what, We've got to play
better right from the beginning. So that's the play I
really like in this one. Here can talk about the
totals again, I think in the past that it's kind
of a wash there five and five when they've played
each other over and unders.
Speaker 3: I know Vegas is a more of an overteam at home,
but again.
Speaker 4: You got six and a half. Tough tough on the total,
but I really do And it's tough on the toll
because these guys are pretty decent on the penalty kill.
Speaker 3: Toronto I think is like third. Maybe Vegas is eight
like on a penalty.
Speaker 4: Kill, so that that helps if you're going to play
an under here. I don't really like, again six and
a half when I see two teams that might have
to tighten things up a bit.
Speaker 3: Going to pass all that total.
Speaker 4: But I really like, believe it or not, the leasts
first period on the money.
Speaker 2: Line, Andrew, you know, how much do you care about that?
Speaker 1: You talked about it, but how much does that overtime
affect your way of handicapping here?
Speaker 2: This one like it's I always use that.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's very important, especially on a
back to back and especially who they played.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's a soft team, but you play La
in La, you know you're in for a game win
or lose. Bottom line, It's been that way for twenty years.
It's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: And one thing kind of funny too, is that because
of the way the schedules worked out sometimes I've seen this,
you know how usually the NHL schedule would set out
for the home team to have all the advantages. Yeah,
like this is the road team that has the advantage
in this one, Like you know, you know what I mean,
Like a lot of times it would be that the
road team would play a back to back, but they
played Utah then they had a day off. Meanwhile Vegas
didn't have a day off. So although they're the road
team tonight, the Maple Leafs, they seem to kind of
have the advantage in this one. So I find that
kind of interesting. And I just think that you know,
Pres came on the show, and you know, for about
like five weeks, it seemed like he was just picking
Leaf games and just taking the under taking the under
taking the under and it's it was just clockwork for him.
It was working extremely well. He was able to have
a success with it. But also, like I feel like
not a lot of people or even giving these goalies credit,
like whether it's Ben Hill to be, whether it's been
Joseph Wall, like, these guys have been great. And when
I look overall at this team, I just think that
they still don't have enough contributors. That's my biggest thing
about the Maple Leafs is that they started to play
better again. And it's because maybe Matthews is scoring again,
because Nilander steps it up again. You know, got to
give credit to Easton Cowen and a couple of these guys.
But you know, there's still that main problem with the
Maple Leafs, and it shows up in the playoffs is
that they don't have the secondary option guys. And and
you know, when you're in a tough battle, that's what
you want to have. That's what you're kind of worried
about most of the time, is that. So you know,
I think that when you look at the difference between
you know, Marner being in Vegas and Marner being in Toronto, Buster,
I think one of the biggest differences.
Speaker 2: He's not the main guy anymore.
Speaker 1: Like you've got you've got Mark Stone on a big
point streak right now, You've got Jack Eichel, You've got Barbershev,
You've got Dori Feyev, You've got great players.
Speaker 2: Surrounding you, Thomas Hurdle, they have a nice club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, so it's not like if he has a
bad game, people are going to just say, Okay, he
cost them the game.
Speaker 2: That's to me what I think the big difference is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and you know, the media in Toronto, it's
it's tough for these kids sometimes maybe even that alone.
You know, like you said, he was blamed a lot
for things that probably weren't really always his fault. And
you know what, when you are that kind of generational talent,
you could go play.
Speaker 3: Somewhere else, take your game somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Like you say, it working perfect there because he's he's
an afterthought. In Vegas.
Speaker 3: They just know they got another good player, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So anyways, Andrew, I think you have the same game
partly for us that you might.
Speaker 3: Want to talk about.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: And it's nice little segue for us because I actually
made it in this game and oh perfect, you know what, Buster.
You know, sometimes sometimes you got to fall into the cliches.
Sometimes you got to fall into the uh, you know,
the player playing their former team and that kind of stuff.
We saw it just the other day. Scott Lawton from
the Maple Leafs. He played against Philadelphia. He scored a goal.
It's just one thing that always happens in the NHL.
I'll never forget Shane Wright after he stared down the
Canadians for not drafting him first. Overall, where does he
score his first career NHL goal against the Montreal Canadians.
So here we go, Buster, We've got this nice graphic
made up for US, same game league Maple Leafs Golden Knights,
and we're going pretty cliche here. But Austin Matthews three
plus shots on goal over two and a half shots,
Mitch Marner to get one assist, and.
Speaker 4: What's the male? What is that?
Speaker 1: Oh geez, yeah, that's that's the AI. That's with me there.
Speaker 3: See, that's why you want to script for graphic.
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking you can't deal with AI. Hold on, hold.
Speaker 3: On, sorry, Andrew, just look at it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that is awesome.
Speaker 2: That is awesome.
Speaker 1: I actually love that you corrected that because me and
me and KRRA have been joking around about using AI
for some of these graphics and that's what ends up happening.
But either way, Austin Matthews three plus shots, Mitch Marner
assists and under six and a half.
Speaker 2: And what's funny.
Speaker 1: I know you're I know you're not a huge parlay
same game guy and stuff, but one thing that they
love is when you counter what's the word for it,
like when you contradict yourself. Right, So if you give
out a few picks on guys to do things, but
then you also take the under, it helps juice up
your odds a little bit because you know you're they're
they're like, what the hell you're You like the under,
but you also like a few guys to get points
and a few guys to get shots. So, uh, yeah,
I think it's a good one. You got Matthews that's
starting to shoot a lot more. Three shots for him,
one assist for Marner and under six and a half goals.
I feel like is a pretty good bet there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely like mar to get a point. I
don't know if he gets it, yeah, but I get something.
He's getting a point, he's probably getting assist. So I
do really like that play. Might have to go put
a little cash on that myself, maybe get a point.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the money is on that, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much make the assist because it's such a
bad it's such a bad price for the point.
Speaker 3: Always it really okay, Well then assist.
Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, gotta go with you.
Speaker 1: So, so, brother, what you said you're doing a lot
more college basketball lately. I've been doing some college team
totals and stuff. And it's a busy time right now.
NFL postseason. How fun was that to watch? Besides my packers,
great games to watch, great games to watch. What's going
on for you this week?
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, well just uh tonight? I have a double
play in hockey. I as you know, I have my
big plays that I've circled for, like I have one
circle for February, the end of February one. I do
have a couple I've rid that are close on Saturday.
I've been just crushing five percenters on NHL hockey, just
having up eighty eight percent I think when he lost
won the whole entire year. So yeah, grab that, Pat
and I grabbed that that great seven day all access pass.
You get the college basketball, you get the NHL, you
get the NFL playoffs coming up, and remember college football
championship game is coming up on Monday, so good time
to grab that seven day and get all our plays.
I think you still have a pod from our brother
Carmine to give everyone, do you not.
Speaker 2: Andrew, Yes, we do, Yes we do.
Speaker 1: We'll give it out together here twelve oh and one
to the over last thirteen games the San Jose Sharks.
I've talked a lot about wanting to hop on streaks
more in the new year.
Speaker 2: That was part of my New Year's betting resolutions.
Speaker 1: And Karen says, you know what, this team's going over
and over and over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: Let's do it again here.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a look at the San Jose
Sharks game over and you'll tell you what. Whether it's
been early games or early in the games, late in
the games, however it's been. They've been scoring goals, you know,
and they've had comebacks, they've had good starts. They're playing
against the Washington Capitals here, and I think they're gonna
have another tough game as far as their defense is concerned,
so if they can score some goals as well. And
you know what's funny is Kren was cold with the pods.
Now he's heating back up again, but he's keeping that
same graphic the way it is.
Speaker 2: I kind of like it. It looks pretty cool.
Speaker 3: I'd like to know.
Speaker 4: Where he got that jacket, you know, because those are
those jackets that years ago they throw paint on or
something like that. When there's like a nice big make
or whatever he's got. He actually looks like when the
kids say he's an O G or something like that.
Speaker 2: Looks like he's one.
Speaker 4: Of those guys.
Speaker 2: Karl looks like a guy I wouldn't want to mess
with there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah he does. But we know Carline and yeah
he's just.
Speaker 1: A nice guy, that's for sure, gentle giant. All right,
here we go, guys, I'm a perfectionist. Perfectionist here, this
one looks a lot better. I gotta tell you that
looks pretty clean. Looks pretty clean. It's not that plus
four sixty five. And I'll tell you guys, you guys
were giving me a hard time with the same game parlays.
You know, if we don't get going with them again,
we'll start just making it a prop segment and I'll
give you out all my favorite props. But you know,
there's a lot of times I've given you guys props
within these parlays that you guys could bet individually.
Speaker 2: Don't forget about that. We're making a fun bet every day.
Speaker 1: Yet yesterday, yesterday I gave out Bathrooston and Stutsle to
get a point together that would have been like plus
one hundred and plus one ten. Then I threw on
the under in the Rangers and and sends the game
for the parlay, and it was like eight four, So
eight four.
Speaker 4: Club man man, a total show going on in the MSG.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyways, big time, big time. All right, guys, we've
got a few more minutes.
Speaker 2: Comment.
Speaker 1: Let us know any questions you want us to answer,
any type of games you want us to talk about.
We had one person was asking about the Vancouver and
Columbus game. Now you talked about it, how the last
game buster you weren't a fan of it. You didn't
really want to jump on the coaches bump because of
the price. And now this is a weird situation because
Vancouver they've looked awful their whole road trip. They haven't
shown any signs of getting better. But Columbus is riding
that coaches bump. You know, part of me, I look
at this one and I kind of think to a
handicap you mentioned earlier in the Oilers game. Part of
me has a small, small lean to the under in
that game. Yeah, I think we could see both teams
want to come out defensively, and Vancouver if this if
you're gonna show pride in some way, you got to
show defensive pride, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, it's tough with Depko on the ir right
for Vancouver and I think we both talked about it
on Tuesday. I know they've long with seventh straight or
something like that, but some of the games they have
looked alright, you might maybe I'm not sure what the
price will me. I think is think Columbus like one
eighty or they're pretty high, right, you might want to
look at Vancouver on on the puck line for a
small little play that seems something that you know, because
when a team loses that many games, it just sometimes
they just can turn it around that one night and
you think, oh where did that come from? Right? That
might be one of these nights.
Speaker 3: Or you can't lay to one eighty or.
Speaker 4: Whatever Columbus is.
Speaker 3: That's the problem, right, you can't lay that.
Speaker 4: You might if you really like Columbus yet you want
you play them in regulation.
Speaker 3: That's to be the.
Speaker 2: Only way that you can do it, if you ask me.
Speaker 4: Kind of like even Edmonton tonight, I don't know if
I didn't want to, if I'm going to bet Edmonton,
which I'm not you might lay the and the regulation
I think is even even money right now, or maybe
my five or something like that.
Speaker 1: So all I can say is that there's been so
many times of the years where a coach got fired
and they either the team went on a run and I.
Speaker 2: Just never on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, in one year he went on like
he went on so many runs with like three coaches
getting fired. I remember, Dave, when Vancouver fired a coach,
like I remember, you know, God blessed rest in peace, Dave,
he can't you think he ran off like seven wins
in a row and he said, he said it was
just said it and forget it automatic, right. So part
of me is like, if I had a five percent
on Columbus the other day, maybe I do a little
two percenter today, but I think the under could be
the move.
Speaker 4: You might be again. You know, it's hard to bet
Vancouver with the way, you know, losing all those games
and Columbus. And I mentioned probably maybe three weeks ago,
I had said how close this whole Eastern Conferences? And
I even said I think Columbus is a team that
could do something as well, because I do.
Speaker 3: Like thirteen right, and I like that check grease could.
Speaker 2: Get Yeah, not that right, that could be a.
Speaker 4: Good underfifth Vancouver gets our goaltending like they got the
last game, because I but that's not happening a lot
for Vancouver, so very tough game. You might be on
something about keep playing Columbus. I just can't leave that
big price. I know maybe Columbus regulation. You might be
on something there. Won't make my card, but hopefully that
answers a little gives a little analysis to whoever asked
in the chat.
Speaker 1: Copec says a puck time during or on the Olympics,
We're gonna try and maybe have some videos.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure just with the scheduling.
Speaker 1: I know that with my show, The pre Scout, I'll
be having some overnight picks. The problem is, guys, is
that our time slot that we have eleven am Eastern
for this show, it sets up for a ton of
shelf life all day, right, right, So if we do
eleven am Eastern for puck time, there's games that are
going on in the morning in the afternoon, so you know,
as far as our time zones for how we work
here at puck time, it's a little bit difficult. So
not to cross promote my own show here. But I'm
going to you guys, can.
Speaker 3: You know what, maybe I'll jump on with you during
the Olympics one time.
Speaker 4: When it's some obscure hour that you have to do
because you know, being in Milan and all that, I
think there's like six hours ahead. So to me, I
jump on with you were talking a little Olympic hockey.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can't wait.
Speaker 1: We'd love to, would love to, and you know it
the end of the day, guys, like this business with
with doing content, a lot of it is about shelf life, right,
So if you put a video out, you know you
want to have a couple of hours for people to
be able to see it.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Last question was any thoughts on Wild and Jets. I'll
just say the open number of money flying in on
the Winnipeg Jets money absolutely fly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say this though, that numb that stat
that Ralph put in the chat uh yesterday about uh
what was it teens with uh where is it here?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the totals of five and a half since the
new year twenty two and four, eighty five percent of
the over maybe go towards the over on that one.
Speaker 2: With a five and a half.
Speaker 1: But all right, Buster, I'm yapping too much, I'm taking
too long here. Seven day all access pass. Get college
basketball from Buster. Get NHL, get NFL, same thing for myself.
Let's have a great week, guys. We'll see you tomorrow,
same time, same place, right here on puck time.
Speaker 3: Take care, guys,