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Speaker 1: Good morning from Hell. I'm Chris, and I'm dead and

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my eternal punishments to do this podcast where we interview

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everyone in Hell. And I'm joined as always by the

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younger brother of Satan Clayton. What o the door? Oh

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my god? Hold on? You put these down somewhere? What

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is that?

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Speaker 2: Those are bills, Chris, overdue bills? Notice the red ink

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You notice the pink slips in there?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, we're fucked. We're fucked.

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Speaker 2: Are we recording this right now? Yes, we're recording. Great,

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the audience needs to hear this. We're shutting it down.

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What it's all going away? I think this might be

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the last episode because we cannot afford every minute of

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recording on that tape deck. We can't afford that tape.

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We're gonna have to sell that tape, Chris, the tape itself. Yeah,

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what if we just flip it over to the other

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side and then use that part.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know tech stuff. It's already

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a Madonna tape from the nineties that we're recording on listen.

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I don't know tex shit, okay, but I just know

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that we can't afford it.

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Speaker 2: Whatever we're doing. The air that you're breathing right now,

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Stop breathing it. We can't afford it. We're in the

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red and not in the funny demon way. Things are bad.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh fuck, okay, what do we do? What do

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we do? It's id eight? Okay, well ide eight.

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Speaker 2: I took some like corporate classes online from some fucking guy,

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and ideating is like a starting point.

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Speaker 1: So like, okay, what can we do? What can we do?

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We could get and convince more people to sign up

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for our patreon.

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Speaker 2: What can we possibly do to convince more people to

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sign up for our patreon? Good morning from hell dot com,

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where they get such features as the ability to get

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roasted and behind the scenes show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I posted my TV show from high

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school recently. Wow, what an offer, what a benefit? It's

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never released online? Damn. Okay, those are those These are

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great ideations. These are great ideas. But I think we need.

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Speaker 2: To Okay, hold on, let me see if I can

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find that business card. It was this guy that I

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found online on his name was his name was Chadley Grafton.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just call this number and see if he

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can come in. Okay, okay, So what is he is

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he what is he special? What does he do?

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Speaker 2: He's like a business guy. He's like a business like

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consultant guy. I'm gonna let him explain. Actually, I just

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I just sent him a text. I think he's on

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his way. So we're just gonna wait and we're just

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gonna keep our fingers crossed that our business is going

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to get turned.

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Speaker 1: Around, all right. Okay, wait, I hear some knocking at

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the door. That might be a him. Hello Clinton, Hey, Hey, sorry, sorry,

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I'm so late. I just ran in from a meeting.

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I've been on so many calls and you know, I'm

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just blowing up there right now. So I appreciate thank

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you for your patience. Urse, thank you for I appreciate you. You,

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I appreciate Wow. No, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And dude, you're you must be killing it if you're

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so busy. Thank you for making the time. We should

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be thanking you. I mean, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Nope for you, babe, anything, bababe, Hey look at me, babe,

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Yeah anything?

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Speaker 2: How long have you all known each other? This is

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my first time meeting this man. I've never seen him

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once in my life.

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Speaker 1: But you've got the card, and the card opens doors. Okay,

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Is that like a Is that like a rule of business?

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Is it like a hotel card? Like is RFI D?

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I don't understand. It's one of Chadley's five rules of

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business association. You can read about it on my LinkedIn post. Okay,

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oh oh okay, all right, well Clayton's on LinkedIn as well.

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I am Chadley. We need to connect.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's going to open some big doors, similar.

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Speaker 1: To the card. So what's going on? You just texted

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four exclamation points and a car and then a birthday cake.

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I think that one was a typo. Yes, the birthday

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cake was not correct. It was actually it was supposed

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to be the chart with the arrow going down into

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the right. Yeah, things are not looking good for us, Chadley,

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Chadley Grafton. Right, that's your name, it's on my card,

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that's my name. That's what you've been calling me. Of course,

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of course, I'm sorry, sorry, Chadley. Business is bad though, Chris.

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I mean you tell you well, I mean, look at

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these bills. What do you so you've got bills? Yeah,

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you've got you've got numbers go down. Our numbers go

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down right now, the big number go downward? Yes, yeah, classic,

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that's a that's a You're in a real pickle, and

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I'm glad I'm here to help. So specifically, what are

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numbers in your line? I need to frame the business

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in order to provide the strategy that will best fit

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your situation.

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Speaker 2: This guy's got good vocabulary. I think he knows what

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he's talking about. Very good, Chris. Let's let's put a

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pin in that, Chris ow Ow. So we're a podcasting business,

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and so subscribers, those are numbers profits from our store

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we have, we have some e commerce coming in.

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a consequence of the content being bad. Oh, would you

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say the content and the hosts and the overall concept

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of your podcast? The format is bad? I mean, Chris,

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I mean, I mean I've seen worse. I mean I

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think we're not bad. I mean it's it's a pretty bad.

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We're interviewing everybody in hell. You know that isn't like evil? Yeah? Yeah,

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it is bad? Good because we're in hell? Do we

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want to be bad? All right, let's back up. Let's

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back up Chaldley's rule number two. Okay, you have no confidence, boys,

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listen to me. You're questioning yourselves. You don't know if

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you're bad or good. You're not landed on even the

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format of what you're doing or your purpose. Why are

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you here? Let's start with brass tacks. Let's have a

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blue sky spitball on who you are, what's your purpose?

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What are you thinking? What? Why do you exist in

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the market space? Right now? Oh? Man? Okay? Why do

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we exist in a marketplace? I mean I exist market

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space space? Okay, space as opposed to what will? Were

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you send Chris market place or space place? That's like Facebook?

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No the market space? No, no, no, no no. Your

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places are three dimensional. Spaces are four dimensional. You want

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to exist in a four dimensional market space? Market guys? Okay, okay,

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I'm trying to write all these downs. Oh my gosh,

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I can't believe how rudimentary you're operating right now.

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Speaker 2: So sorry, child, But like that's why you are here,

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because you're a business guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what are you? I'm a business guy? Yeah? I

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am a business consultant. My job is to come into businesses,

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tell them what they're doing wrong, and charge them an

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exorbitant amount of money to hear the kind of advice

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that only an outsider could provide for an insider. Okay,

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that's okay though, because we.

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Speaker 2: Don't have money currently, but you're gonna get us in

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a position in the market space where we will make money.

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Space no forty versus three D forty and we're gonna

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make money. This is a this is a worthwhile expenditure

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in my mind.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let's talk about what my fee is

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gonna because if you don't have any money, I'm going

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to demand a significant amount of equity from your operation.

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What is equity? Forget about it? Forget about it. We're

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going to operate on a sense of trust. You trust me?

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You trust me? Sure? Yeah? Yeah, No, I trust you.

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You're Charlie Grafton. Yeah, the door's going to open, key,

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Key's gonna open doors. Yeah. We've got two of the

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five rules, man, we're rolling. Give us the rest. Can

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you give us a third one? Not to like blow

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your load, but like you know, I want to hear

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the third one if you got it. Yeah, absolutely. Chadley

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Grafton's third rule of business association is always be networking. Baby,

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You got to meet new people. You think I would

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have showed up if I weren't networking? All the time.

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I never met you. Yeah, but you got my card.

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You reached out to my number. And that's not just

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any number. That's a burner phone that I got it at

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seven eleven. So my friends aren't calling that number. Okay,

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that's my business phone. Oh you understand. So I accept

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every call. You accept every call. That's rule number three. Okay,

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all right? Rule number three. Rule number four ah wait,

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wait three is always be networking baby, or accept every call? Well,

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accepting every call is networking. Yet networking sub a oh,

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networking sub b is go to the industry event, shake

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every hand, take every card every.

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card gets you anywhere.

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Speaker 1: It's a loop. Duh. It's a loop. Duh. Okay, all right, ah,

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and it's looping so early too. Only on the third

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be change. This is great stuff. Yeah yeah. Rule number four.

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the networking, you gotta get investors. Who are you asking

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for money? Is it your parents? Probably for the two

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of you? Is it random people on the internet? Absolutely,

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those are the biggest suckers in the world. Don't pay

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for anything. Have you seen the shit on Kickstarter lately? Nobody.

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We've seen it on Patreon and there's a lot out

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of it. No, Patreons a a real crap show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, all right, this is great stuff.

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We're already making so much progress. I think profit margins.

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about them. Yeah, Charlie, tell us about yourself. I mean,

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you seem to be willing and dealing around hell really,

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well are you? Are you like a demon? Like, like,

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what's what's your origin story? How long you've been in

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Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not a demon. I'm an Arizonan. I

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grew up in Scottsdale. You know my parents were fundamental

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influences on me that I was raised in a dual

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income house. My dad sold time share and my mom

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business fundamentals of networking, of always being there, of taking

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the call, of not taking no foreann answer okay at

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a very young age. Okay, all right, So I'm just

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a guy man, but I'm a guy making my way

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Prince of Hell. I mean i'd prefer he didn't, because

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you know, I want that job.

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Speaker 2: But hey, you've got some you know, some real drive,

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and I respect and appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I have that confidence that you lack. I got that

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dog in me, son. Okay, okay, okay, well damn, So

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how many? What kind of dog? Yeah? What breed are

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we talking here? Well, since I've been down here, I've

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got docs and German shepherd. When I first got here,

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there was a cerebus. Mmmm. Oh we met.

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Speaker 2: We interviewed him in a previous episode. So those dogs

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in me, well, like, and I got it. Okay, we

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don't have to go to d.

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Speaker 1: End out in and out. I mean it's hell Yeah,

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I'll do whatever I need to do to get ahead.

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this case, right, well, plus the other two. So's that's

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a five and one. And so this is networking what

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you were doing with these dogs? Correct in a sense.

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Have you ever been to a key party, Clayton? Key

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party is oh with the business card, that's one of

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the that's how we get in. You're a sweet, sweet

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dumb boy, Chris, and I love you. Yeah, Okay, all right.

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So yeah, so my fundamentals grew up in Arizona, and

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you know, I have a ton of business experience. My

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first real toe dipping into the pool of the business world,

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I was rewrapping dollar store candy in my old Halloween

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Snickers wrappers and reselling them at school. Whoa, those suckers

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didn't know the difference, and I could up charge them

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a ridiculous fee and I was able to buy incredibly

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rare ugi O cards. Son. Wow, so are we talking

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blue eyes, white dragons? Are we talking? What are we

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talking here?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have chosen yu gi O cards because I

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do not know about u gi O cards. Okay, okay,

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but it doesn't matter. You look for opportunity to make money,

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whether or not you know or not. I'll buy what

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I'll sell it back. It's called arbitrage. Look into it

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on my LinkedIn post arbitra.

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rule is always be posting on LinkedIn. Always be posting

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on LinkedIn? Okay, I'm gonna quickly. You can read about

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great, that's great. So so far we've got

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card gets you anywhere. That was first one. Two confidence boys.

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be a fine boys that are confident. Always be networking baby.

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because you have got expertise from across the historological spectrum.

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pre modern tyrants. You've got your Genghis cons, you've got

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your Stone Age clan leaders, but you also have your Hitlers,

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your Mussolini's. You gotta ever concept across the board, and

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when they all get together, the ideas are just they're

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just flowing. Yeah. Yeah, these are people that you look

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up to, the people you can learn from. Okay, I'm

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their points of view, but they have some good ideas.

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an employee base, I mean, a fascist dictator who does

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better job than that. It's a good point, damn, Chris.

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full capacity because we've had some big hitters on the show,

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people who have conquered.

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Speaker 1: Worlds in countries. That's true, and we just we never

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once like shook hands and said like, hey, you interested

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in getting on the ground floor of this business? Would

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you want to invest? Yeah? Yeah, you want to invest?

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my resume if you really need more touch points. But

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we can also just move straight into how can I

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help you? Yeah, that sounds like the best thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We've got to know you really well, Chadley. I

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feel so connected with you. I feel so confident in

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your abilities. So I think, yeah, we should just focus

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on like our business and what's gonna get us strong again.

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sure is the business the podcast? Or is the business? Hell?

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for good point for me, it's the podcast. Yeah yeah,

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all right? For me?

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Speaker 2: Hell is the podcast and podcast as hell. I'm gonna

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be so frank with you. I'm answering with no confidence whatsoever.

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I'm just I'm just answering with what I'm assuming you

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want to hear. And so I'm gonna say it's the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Lock it in. I do love a yes man. Listen.

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At a very basic level, we need to turn your

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podcast into the Netflix of hell. Whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know Netflix, it's a household name. I

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don't think that they ever make a profit from what

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I understand is that correction. Okay, his finger is covering

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my mouth, it's on my lip. You're really getting in there.

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Shushh Okay, all right, Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I'm hushing. Profit does not matter. Growth is what matters

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at all costs. You have to show to grow, you

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know what I mean, to grow?

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in bed, you know, like you got to show to grow.

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Speaker 1: And so this is making sense, this is ringing true.

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I just just sidetrack. Are you suggesting that in bed

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in order to become erect, Yeah, you have to be

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naked first. Well, you have to show in order to grow.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that it's yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm

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gonna again, I'm not super confident, but I'm gonna say

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yes with confidence. My pants need to be down and

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my shirt needs to be off, and I gotta grow excellent.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that sidebar. Yeah, okay, So part of

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becoming the number one podcast and hell, the Netflix is

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going to be you need go through a rebrand, a

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classic rebrand. This is the best thing that any company

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can do in order to write size itself for future

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growth and performance. Yeah okay, okay, So what are we

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talking here with the rebrand? I mean, is this like

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a new logo? I mean, do we change? Yeah? Okay,

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all right, all right, so right now, our logo is

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a coffee cup with a flame and a little skull

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on the coffee cup. It's pretty cute.

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think our audience has really grown to love it and

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really relates it to the brands in a way that

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if we were to pull that away from them, I

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think it would really upset them.

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Speaker 1: When I think about the classic logos that have really

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made an impact on brands and society. Yeah, the ones

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I'm thinking about are the Nike swoosh, right, the McDonald's arches, right,

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the logos that you can see in silhouette and you

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know exactly what it is from a distance. A coffee cup. Yeah,

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with a logo on a coffee Oh yeah, yeah? Was

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what's that doing for you? Who are you Starbucks? Are

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you PiZZ Coffee? Are you Pj's? Are a Buckhead? Are

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you Dutch Bros? Tim Morton's? Thank you God, You're so right.

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I'm naming every other coffee company that's not us. Should

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we be making coffee, Chris, We don't sell coffee. We

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sell podcasts. Oh do you sell coffee? But could we?

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Should we do we? Now? I don't know. You tell

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us you're the business guy. What do we do to

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make coffee? Oh? Fuck?

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Speaker 2: I'm so questioning every decision we've ever made up until

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this point.

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Speaker 1: Help us, help help anchor me. Okay, okay, fuck, take

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a breath, Okay, take a breath. Okay, guys, Okay, this

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is why this is why people pay me the big bucks,

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because I'm able to stay calm in a world of panic. Yeah,

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and I am panicked. You're getting into the weeds. Coffee

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could be an ancillary revenue generator, It could be an opportunity.

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Is coffee primarily your brand? Or is the podcast which

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you want a message? Are you and Chris what you

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want a message? Who is your leading foot into that

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market space? When people think good morning from hell? Complete

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this sentence, Complete this sentence. When people think good morning

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from hell, they think they think I you do one?

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Am a good time? They think that I am a

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good time? Yes, yes, I'm seeing a logo that is

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clock based, okay based logo good time? A clock with

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a halo, A halo clock, halo clock, the opposite of hell. Oh,

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we're going to take a left turn. We're really thinking

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outside the box right now, that's what you want to do.

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You're not giving them what they expect. You're putting your

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stamp on something in such a way that people will

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never associate that image with anything else. Oh, interesting, subversive,

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I would even say. So, I'm doing a rough sketch,

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and it's it's basically two circles, the halo and the clock.

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You mentioned earlier silhouettes, but this is just it kind

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of looks like an eight. Should we incorporate the eight

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into our branding as well? The way you've done it

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almost looks like anemol.

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that not make the halo not a halo.

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Speaker 1: I love this. No, No, this is excellent dual meeting

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because complete this sentence. When you're in hell, you're in hell,

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Tom partyever. I see there's a little bit of brand confusion.

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think Chris, who is in hell forever, Yeah, understands where

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we're going with this. Right. Yes, nice Chris, way to go, Chris.

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Are you familiar with the FedEx logo.

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there's like an arrow inside of it or something.

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Speaker 1: The arrow on the inside. Very good boy, Oh boy,

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where'd you get this dog treat? Oh? Delicious? Good insight, Clayton. Yeah.

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The meaning of the FedEx brand we will send your

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packages to a location quickly is embedded within that logo

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and the concept of your here and you're here forever

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being embedded in your logo. Uh, chef's kiss. I love it. Okay.

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like an infinity sign that's a clock and a halo,

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and then I'm doing the kind of Italian little hand

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gesture symbolizing like a like a chef's kiss, and then

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I have a small heart off to the side, So

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it's okay, it's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of looking like if like it look like the hand

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is fisting a butt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's forever forever. If I maybe if I,

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if I, if I flop the hand, then it kind

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of looks like a bit of a phallus and then

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the heart is like a little dribblet of come coming

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off like it's kind.

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Speaker 1: Of that's so, you know, and it's sweet. It's really

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nice because what feeling do you get post coitus? Kind

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of a chef's kiss, So I mean, you know, a

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burning sensation like hell. Again, a little brand confusion, boys, Yeah,

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there's a little bit of brad confusion.

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Speaker 2: We're breaking the we're breaking the second rule, which is

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confidence boys. We're not confidence boys. We need confidence boys. Okay,

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it's a birding, burning chef case.

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Speaker 1: I love this. Let's move on. Okay, let's think about

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your slogan. If I asked you, what is the slogan

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for good Morning in Hell? What's your tagline? What do

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you say every episode? What would you tell me? I

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don't know. Hey, let's say good morning from Hell. I'm

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Chris and I'm dead and my eternal punishment to do

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this podcast where we interview everyone in hell, every person else.

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Speaker 2: Clayton, he's the younger brother. Say stop, it's pretty. It's

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a word script idiot.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not that's not a logo. That's not that's

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not a slogan.

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Speaker 2: Chadley, you seem really upset with us right now, and

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I feel like I need to do something that will

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earn your trust and respect back. So I am an

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open book. Throw anything at me, I'll do it blindly.

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Throw the book at him.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, yeah that was a book though.

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Ow okay, spine hit me right in the eye. Let's

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think mission statement. Okay, the book says mission statement. Let's

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look up famous mission statements from the book. Oh yeah, no,

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exactly exactly, mission statement. Okay, what is a memory mission

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statement from let's see McDonald's again, a classic. Oh oh,

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I'm loving loving it right? Loving it? Is that their

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mission statement? I don't know if that's a mission statement.

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It's a slogan it I mean, it's a slogan. Mission statement. Yeah, okay, Hey,

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I don't tell you how to be a beta cuck,

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do I? Chris? How to be a little tortured soul,

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do I, Chris? No? Well, I kind of you are

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doing that right now, aren't you. Yeah, I'm so good

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at my job. Thank you, Thank you for noticing that.

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I appreciate you. All right.

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Speaker 2: So we've got a brand that you know, Hell loves

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because of their representation Subway.

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Speaker 1: So their whole thing is eat Fresh.

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Speaker 2: Right, So like we need something simple that defines and

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distills down what we're trying to do here.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it. Eat Fresh. One of the rebrands that

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I went through. H Have you heard of a company

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called Rooster Teeth? I did the rebrand for them.

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Speaker 2: So funny you should mention that because we have a

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non disparagement clause and lasts for roughly one more year.

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Speaker 1: You do? Do I have a non disparagement clause? Interesting?

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You don't.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if it comes from our production, if

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we can still have it entertain it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hey, let's id eight on that for another year.

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Let's bob up and down on this and see where

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we go. All right, good, because in my experience and

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rebranding Rooster Teeth, one of the most successful aspects of

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it was ripping off another company for a logo. I

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suggest we rip off another company's slogan good morning in Hell,

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eat fresh good morning, and so we're switching the name

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even it's good morning in Hell. Oh yeah, no from hell?

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You want to be from hell? Or you want to

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be in hell? Are you from hell? Or are you

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in hell? It's like the active versus the passive. I mean,

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I don't know much about like you know, words, but

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that good Morning in Hell sounds so much more action packed. Yeah,

463
00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:52,240
so we're in here. Yeah, I'm loving it. Load up

464
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,559
the Patreon let me see. I want to see you

465
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,079
change the website right now. Okay, okay, are we committing Yes?

466
00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:59,640
Confidence boys, confidence? Uh we're in hell?

467
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 2: Ye, so I think we're Yeah, confident, Okay, good morning

468
00:23:02,759 --> 00:23:05,759
in Hell. So I can't I don't actually have the

469
00:23:05,799 --> 00:23:08,359
money in my bank account to pay for the change

470
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,440
of the domain name.

471
00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:11,799
Speaker 1: But I think we can mess with the logos in

472
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,599
the very least. Yeah, what do we need on your

473
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,200
dream board? Write on a post it note and make

474
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,480
sure that that post it note is centered on your

475
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,200
computer screen exactly where the show name is supposed to

476
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200
be on Patriot. Okay, until you have the money to

477
00:23:26,279 --> 00:23:29,519
change it. So I'm putting the sticky note on the screen.

478
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:33,960
I mean it's hard to see the screen now, Yeah,

479
00:23:34,079 --> 00:23:38,200
especially since I'm operating off of like a four inch monitor.

480
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,799
It's the best we could get down here. So it's

481
00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:43,480
covering up quite a bit of real estate here. You

482
00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:45,079
might not be able to see the screen, but can

483
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,640
you see the vision? I mean I could see what

484
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,640
I wrote down, which is it says good morning in

485
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,440
hell you eat fresh? So oh you know what.

486
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,039
Speaker 2: Earlier you mentioned that we always need to be networking

487
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,680
and shaking every hand and getting to know our investors.

488
00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: That's two of the rules.

489
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,279
Speaker 2: So we actually have a segment Chadley, if you'll allow

490
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,839
us where we roast Patreon members.

491
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,799
Speaker 1: Would you would you care to join us for that?

492
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,559
I would love nothing better. Thank you for the offer. Yeah,

493
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,640
if you could help us consult it.

494
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,519
Speaker 2: Oh that's maybe what we should do, is we consult

495
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:19,000
these guys and give them advice instead of roasting them.

496
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,279
Speaker 1: We consult them. We can give them life advice. We

497
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,920
tear them down to build them up. Fresh news eat fresh, yes, yes,

498
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:31,200
hell good. You can't say consult without insult, or at

499
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:34,839
least the salt part soult. Yeah, you know what My

500
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,640
favorite part of my job is it's learning from you.

501
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,559
Not you specifically Chris, but you the greater you, the

502
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,440
people that I work with, the companies. Yeah, it's so insightful.

503
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,119
That's going on my dream board. Wow. Hell yeah.

504
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: So all right, First up, we've got someone coming in.

505
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,960
It's a Bones Crew. In their biography says that they're

506
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,640
turning thirty two in June, so they actually probably are already. Hey,

507
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,680
happy Blake Berth, you're thirty two. I have been married

508
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,599
for five years and I love building legos. As far

509
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,240
as what they do for a living, they are a

510
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:09,039
bill collector for a rent to own gaming PC.

511
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:12,799
Speaker 1: Company is Oh my gosh, we owe them money? Yeah, no,

512
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000
Bones Crew ninety four, he messaged us. We owe him

513
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,680
a lot of money. Fuck, that's Bone Crew. Here's what

514
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,359
I would suggest, huh Right now, these guys don't have

515
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,839
any money. There's no use in coming and making the

516
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,759
track all the way down to Hell just to get

517
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,200
the money for the shitty gaming PC that they've got.

518
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,039
I would suggest give him another six months, let the

519
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:36,519
effects of this rebrand really take root, and then when

520
00:25:36,519 --> 00:25:39,279
the revenue starts flowing, you'll be able to collect. Now

521
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,200
I would also suggest a ten percent per day interest

522
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:47,279
charge on the overdue bill. Chadley, I don't know. You

523
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,920
don't need to tell bones crew that. Maybe that's more.

524
00:25:50,039 --> 00:25:54,440
Maybe that's a theoretical change. Yeah, you know, I just

525
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,279
want them to be ten percent more interested in collecting

526
00:25:57,319 --> 00:26:00,559
the bill every day. Oh you put it that way,

527
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,799
It actually makes way more sense. Yeah.

528
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 2: When you mess with the numbers and you you use

529
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,680
them vaguely like that, that and like that.

530
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: Okay, So Bones Drew gave us an embarrassing story.

531
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,519
Speaker 2: He said, I was helping my father in law fix

532
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,559
a washing machine at one of his rental properties, and wow,

533
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,559
it runs in the family.

534
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: This this this bill collecting.

535
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:17,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

536
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,759
Speaker 1: And he told me to hold some wires. Uh. He

537
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,839
then plugged the other end into the wall and shocked

538
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,839
the hell out of me. Wow, so your father in

539
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,799
law just electrocuted you for fun.

540
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,039
Speaker 2: I think your father in law doesn't approve of your

541
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:35,240
relationship with his daughter or.

542
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 1: Son and doesn't like you. Yeah. Oh, excellent, excellent wordplay. Ah,

543
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,079
it wasn't an accident. Oh, okay, confirming and not even

544
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,119
joking around this is uh no, No, I mean, I mean, listen,

545
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,400
I don't know Bones Crew. But imagine you're this guy,

546
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,039
You're you're this father in law and your beautiful daughter

547
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,400
a landlord. Yeah, your landlord and your beautiful daughter. Let's

548
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,680
call her a land princess, a lamb Land princess. Charlie

549
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,160
and Charlie's Mary's Bone Crew. Oh, she's no longer Charlie's landlord.

550
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:09,000
She's Charlie's Princess, Charlie's Bones Crew. Now what would you

551
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,039
think about that? If you were the father in law.

552
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,799
Speaker 2: I think I would attempt to murder him in my

553
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,000
rental property that I could then conceal his body within. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

554
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,039
this became less of a roast and more of like

555
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,640
a I think we discovered like a possible murder, possible crime. Yeah,

556
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,519
I mean, it seems like this roast might be the

557
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:29,000
last thing that Bones Crew.

558
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:33,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we have not heard back from Bone's

559
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000
Crew yet. Oh oh, he said his birthday's coming up

560
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:37,759
in June. But I don't know if he made it.

561
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if he made it. Bones Crew right

562
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,559
back into us, because I want to make sure that

563
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:44,119
you're okay. This is a status check for Bones Crew.

564
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,279
I hope you have all of the legos that you

565
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,279
could have ever desired for your birthday. And if not,

566
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,519
I hope you're visiting the big Lego store up in

567
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:54,200
the sky.

568
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Or Lego Beach down here in Hell.

569
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, either way, we don't know what kind of person

570
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,160
you were. Okay, So that was us connecting, that was

571
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,920
us networking. How did we do Chadley?

572
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, I'm going to

573
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,640
give that like it's an eight. First of all, your

574
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,680
heart was in it. Okay, you played a good game,

575
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,960
you really you empathize with Bones Crew. You put yourself

576
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:19,079
in Bones Crew's shoes. Yeah, not their electricians gloves on there, No, no, no, no,

577
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:22,559
no no. But you made a connection. And whether they're

578
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,319
still on Earth or whether they're coming down to rewire Hell,

579
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,880
you'll have a contact now. Okay, all right, Okay, that's

580
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,519
that's productive. Okay. So the next thing we got to

581
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:37,160
figure out some of these bills. Yeah, we've done the rebrand.

582
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,559
Now let's address our our in crippling crippling business debt.

583
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:47,079
I have got two words for you, diversified monetization.

584
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: Diversified monitor If I can spell both of those, diversified diverse, diverse,

585
00:28:55,599 --> 00:29:03,799
divers monetization.

586
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Money Nation Nation. Okay, what are your primary revenue streams

587
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:13,480
right now? Well, you got the Patreon come on, okay, okay, sorry,

588
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,759
sorry sorry. We have the e commerce merch that we have, Yeah,

589
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:20,960
store doc good Morning from Hell, which we have to

590
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,680
probably now change into store dot good Morning in Hell,

591
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,599
hell dot com. We've got all that merch. Change the

592
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,160
names from Hell. Should we change? Oh? I see some

593
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,359
holes in your lineup? Uh huh. I'm going to pitch

594
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,279
you a couple of ideas here. Now. When I was

595
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,200
a consultant for digital media companies, one of the things

596
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,599
that we had the most success in was experiences. Remember

597
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,279
I talked about conventions earlier, the kinds of meetups, confabulations,

598
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:50,720
things like that. My recommendation is Hell Con twenty twenty seven.

599
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,880
You rent out the biggest space you possibly can. Okay,

600
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,319
you load that ship up with so many sponsors. You

601
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,279
cram the people you work with minute by minute into

602
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:07,079
schedules that they haven't approved, and then everyone will pay

603
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,200
fucking far out the nose and you can charge different tiers.

604
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,359
Low tier you just get to show up to the

605
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,920
big panels. Mid tier you can go to minor panels

606
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,079
and maybe walk the floor high tier handshakes from hell,

607
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,079
you can handshake people. Take a little picture. These things

608
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:26,480
are fucking mints. Mints.

609
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,519
Speaker 2: Chris, a convention. I've never once considered doing a convention.

610
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,720
But that's I don't see how we can lose any

611
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,200
money from this. Yeah, and they have to be profitable

612
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880
to They're so big not to fail. They're so big

613
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,839
they can't fail.

614
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: Too big to fail. It can't not work. And there's

615
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,160
no way that you're gonna waste all of your money

616
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,559
on buildouts, on union fees, and on rentals. It's not

617
00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,559
gonna happen because the number of people that are going

618
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,759
to come, I project tens of thousands of people walk ins,

619
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,079
walk outs buying your merch. You're gonna have extra benefits

620
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:01,000
for them to enjoy at the on and all it's

621
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,359
gonna cost you is your labor and time. Easy. That's it.

622
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,079
That's it.

623
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: We have ample amounts of that, Chris, you have unlimited

624
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,839
Think of the turnstyle. That's that's a that's a metric

625
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,680
for measuring this right turnstyle.

626
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: Wow, think of all the turnstiles. My turnstyle is mostly right,

627
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,599
but I can go left if I need to. Okay,

628
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,640
So all right, hellcon after you've launched Helcon, don't wait

629
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,440
until launching the next year. Immediately Helcon London. Oh, and

630
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,640
then after that hell Con Australia, and then after that

631
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Hellcon London Part two. Oh, I love it Lincoln part two. Okay,

632
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,759
we're going international, Yeah, international, think of it. Good morning

633
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,960
in hell Mit. Oh crikey, they're gonna love us out there, Chris.

634
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Do we have a big enough audience out there to

635
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:52,960
warrant such a convention? I don't know. The question should

636
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,559
never be asked the question, don't don't ask the question.

637
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:58,519
Don't ask the question. Does that ask the questions that

638
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:01,079
might be? Could that be a little nuber six? That's it.

639
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,000
It's part of the confidence It's part of the confidence rule.

640
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,359
Are you confident that you've got the audience? Yes? I

641
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,000
don't need to look at the data. I don't need

642
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,319
to look at the data. I am confident in the brand.

643
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,599
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, man, I think we're set

644
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,720
up for success. This is feeling like that blue ocean,

645
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,400
open sky strategy that you were talking about, and I'm

646
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,039
feeling I've never felt better.

647
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm just never feel more horny. Yeah, I'm really glad

648
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,759
that I could help you out with this rebrand. But

649
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,799
oh before I go, yeah, huh the last part of

650
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,119
the rebrand, Yeah, that you're forgetting you need a rebrand,

651
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:38,440
the rebrand because oh oh well, well they stay with me, okay,

652
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,839
sometimes sometimes not always, not always. Sometimes an audience they

653
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,759
don't love the rebrand. They don't love it. Sometimes they're wrong.

654
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:48,279
They're wrong, but you need to listen to them. They're wrong,

655
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:51,759
but listen to them. So let's rebrand. Okay, okay, oh

656
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:56,519
all right, good Morning in Hell original, good Morning from Hell?

657
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,400
Oh classic classic.

658
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Oh so we kind of do the nostalgia for the

659
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,880
people who missed the original because they didn't think it

660
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,839
was broken and it probably wasn't, right, Is that what

661
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:08,319
we're talking?

662
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,559
Speaker 1: Old heads? Yeah, the people who don't like change, the

663
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:15,400
people who agree with the original founding concept of the creators,

664
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,920
those are the ones that we need to appeal to

665
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,799
with the re rebrand. I see. Okay, so we got

666
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:21,000
to bring back our base.

667
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:25,119
Speaker 2: They probably fucking scrammed elsewhere and don't like us anymore.

668
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,119
But we got to get him back.

669
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: To get him back. Okay, so we got good more,

670
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200
we got good Morning from Hell. I shouldn't have ordered

671
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,599
all that good morning in hell merch. While we were talking,

672
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,599
throw it away, Chris, throw it away. It's nothing to me.

673
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:38,519
So what do we do with the logo though? Do

674
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,079
we go back to the same logo or do we

675
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,119
mess with that as well? I think we meld them together.

676
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,279
So a coffee cup with the with the old logo

677
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,480
and the steam coming out of the coffee cup is

678
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,240
an infinity signal. That is a clock with a halo

679
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:55,599
and a chef's kiss fist going up the infinity signal.

680
00:33:55,599 --> 00:34:00,039
But that's the steam. Okay, it's very I would call it.

681
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,400
It's busy maximalist. Maximalists. Yeah, that's that's in. Now, that's big,

682
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:10,199
that's big. Okay, we're men maxilline. Yes, that's a gamer word.

683
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,400
Damn you fucking dork. All right, we rebranded the rebrands.

684
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:19,280
We're back to what's gonna make us strong from hell classic? Right,

685
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,719
We've got the conventions coming up in FTS, n FTS.

686
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,880
Maybe maybe sell some n FTS too, maybe launch a

687
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,119
crypto platform. Oh, those are definitely ideas, those are I mean,

688
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,239
we have dabbled with Clayton Coin a little bit in

689
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,320
the past. I could see no, I could see I

690
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,760
could see n FTS with like sixteen Clayton variants. You

691
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,239
get your board Clayton, you get your hazed Clayton, You

692
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,920
get your business casual Clayton. You get your beach Clayton. Oh,

693
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:49,400
beach Clayton. Beach people do like beach Clayton. That's man.

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Speaker 2: We can make so much money it'd be like printing

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the money. No repercussions, no hit to our reputation whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Fuck dude, this is great. So uh, last thing, need

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to discuss anything? What a got? Yeah, we're welcome. You

698
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need to lay off Chris. Oh like I'm giving him

699
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,519
too much of a hard time. I'm being too many

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too a layoff me guess okay ah, yes, but no, no,

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we need to Chris. You're gonna get let go, let go. Honestly,

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we're restructuring your role. It's a strategic repositioning of what

703
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,559
you do here, which is take a paycheck, and instead

704
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,719
we're going to reroot that to my package, which is

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going to be perpetual.

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Speaker 2: You just slid me a piece of paper kind of

707
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,840
like covertly, and then now you're like clicking a pin

708
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as if waiting for me to sign it. Your rate

709
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is roughly twenty times the amount I pay Chris. So

710
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if you think about it, I could have gotten like

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nineteen more Chris is for the price of this rebrand.

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Speaker 1: Rebrand. Yeah, but how valuable would you say, Chris is

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so compared to the advice you've been giving me.

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Speaker 2: M he's fucking nothing to me, Chadley, Chris, get the

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fuck out of here.

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Speaker 1: You're fucking get the fuck out, Chris. You fucking lose

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horn air horn, rap horn, rap horn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I can't afford those sound effects anymore because

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Chris typically put them into post production.

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Speaker 1: But I don't fucking care. Oh and I'm not sticking

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around to do any editing work for you. That's why

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I said it out loud. Oh okay, okay, Uh well,

723
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:31,639
so I guess you know what. Let's call the whole

724
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thing off. Chris. Bye, all right, bye bye Chris. Sorry,

725
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,719
see Chris. Sorry. If I known we were letting you go,

726
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I would have done like a more significant goodbye episode.

727
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Just you know. We're gonna have the editor right now

728
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put together a best of montage so long of all

729
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of Chris's favorite moments. Ready set go, Hey guys, this

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is Chris. Wow, hell, this is touching. Oh wow, tomorrow.

731
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Remember that one. Yeah, fondly, fondly Wow, that really encapsulated

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all the value he brought in his whole career. Yeah.

733
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Speaker 2: Maybe someday when the audience reacts really poorly to me

734
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firing Chris, we bring back Chris.

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Speaker 1: Chris Classic, Chris Classic. No, get out, Chris, get the

736
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,280
fuck out. I'm talking to you, right, Okay, Sorry, sorry,

737
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,159
roll that second montage. Hey guys, good morning, Good Morning

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from Hell dot com. The show's done, all right, Clayton,

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I'm a I'll see you next time you need a rebrand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, awesome, Chadley, pleasure doing business with you? Great, good,

741
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good good, Okay, all right. I am all on my

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own right now.

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Speaker 1: The debt is still climbing ever higher between the ten

744
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,480
percent I have to pay Bones crew plus Chadley's exorbit rate,

745
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,320
and Chris is gone so I can't have him help me. Well,

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this has been another episode good Morning from Hell.

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Speaker 2: It might be my last, but thank you for tuning in.

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If you I want to support a sinking ship, go

749
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,000
to good Morning from Hell dot com. That's our Patreon

750
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,679
cool all right, hell, Clayton, thanks for joining us for

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,840
another episode of Good Morning from Hell. This week our

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special kiss Joel Rubin, Joel, thanks for coming by, man, Wow.

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Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for the invite. Came out of nowhere and

754
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:19,559
I appreciate it. Were you speaking from a place of

755
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,599
experience in any of this or was this just like

756
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,519
a funny improv practice for you? Funny improv practice? You know?

757
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,880
I really just love getting the character does not come

758
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,440
from any deep industry fifteen years knowledge. No, not at all.

759
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,000
That's good. Have you guys considered a ping pong table

760
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for your office a ping pong table for your just

761
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I mean just I think that that would really help

762
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,599
company culture a lot. I think that would make us

763
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a fun place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would. I think

764
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so too, Joel. Where could people find you? Right now?

765
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Where should I? Where should people go look for you?

766
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:51,800
I'm working on projects that have not aired, So you

767
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,440
know what if you just want to come to high

768
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:55,679
and tell me that you love me. I'm mostly active

769
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:01,559
on sadly Twitter at Joel Rubin Underscore. I'm also on Instagram,

770
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:04,719
but nobody fine, I don't post there, so you know,

771
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,280
all right, whatever, whatever, All right, Well we're gonna go

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talk about why we are in fact going to hell

773
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,679
for our special post show only for Patreon, so check

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that next week. Bye bye bye