WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.040 How often should you be required to ID when you 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.879 are on parks, on the air, when you're working a 3 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:10.119 pile up, even a pilot from anywhere, When you're working 4 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.480 a pilot from anywhere, how often should you ID? And 5 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.039 what is the best practice scenario? I want to talk 6 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:19.519 about this today because this is something we've talked about before. 7 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:22.000 But this is a good article I found, So let's go. 8 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:28.839 Today's video is sponsored by Mezi and Poloni Koax save 9 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.960 a ten percent discount on all of their products at 10 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.240 the link in the description. Blow with the coupon code 11 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:39.079 of HR two cables once again. This is another Reddit article. 12 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.960 I almost said QRZ once again. This is another Reddit article. 13 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.000 It's seventeen days old at the time of this recording, 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:50.079 and it says rant constantly calling qrzed, never giving your 15 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:53.159 call sign. Now there's a few there. This is a 16 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.679 short article and there's a few good comments on this. 17 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:00.920 But this is something we have I've talked about before. 18 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:04.159 We talked about this on live streams. I've done live 19 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:07.799 streams with the Hamrado Happy Hour, I've done live streams 20 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.439 with other guests whatnot, and we have talked about calling 21 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.480 qr Z and running pile ups and how to do 22 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.319 PODA and PoTA etiquette and all of this kind of stuff. 23 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.359 We've talked about many of these things before, so when 24 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.599 I saw this article, it kind of hit home for me, 25 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:29.200 and I want to talk about it. This guy's mostly correct. 26 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.480 I don't agree with one hundred percent of what he says, 27 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.159 but he is mostly correct. He says, I've been trying 28 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:35.840 to make a contact with the PoTA station for the 29 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.719 last five minutes so, and there's a comment later on 30 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:41.439 that that speaks to this. So, according to the article, 31 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:43.959 he tries for five minutes to make contact with the 32 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:49.040 PoTA station and then stops to write this QRZ article. Really, 33 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.120 I don't know. It's just the way it's worded. Man, 34 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:55.200 It's just the way it's worded. Okay, as far as 35 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.560 I'm aware of, the guy's call sign seems to be QRZ. 36 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.120 The guy has not once given his call since I've 37 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:02.680 tuned up on the frequency. Well, first of all, if 38 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.920 you have only been there for five minutes, then he's 39 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:07.599 not required to ID because you're required to ID once 40 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.840 every ten minutes. So the point so far is moot. Okay, 41 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.680 you might not like it, but there's nothing. There's no 42 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:15.800 rules being broken here. I know I could make a 43 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:17.599 contact and ask for it, but I shouldn't have to. 44 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.000 This is just common courtesy to identify yourself. Maybe not 45 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.319 every time you call, but every second and fourth call 46 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.360 seems reasonable. No, Well, to you, it might, but if 47 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:27.039 you're in the middle of running a pile up, you 48 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:29.159 just may not be thinking about it. If he's just 49 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.599 working people over and over again without ID and they 50 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:35.280 aren't asking for his ID, they're getting it from somewhere, 51 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:38.800 So where are they getting it from that you're not seeing. 52 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.759 He goes on to say, who are you? What are 53 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:42.960 you calling about? Why should I make contact with you? 54 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.120 That's a good point. I do think it's annoying when 55 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:50.719 PoTA operators are not like saying QRZ parks on the air. 56 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:52.840 I usually say my calls on. I'll say CAC five 57 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:54.680 H shild B parks on the air, and I'll say 58 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.240 qr ZED from k C five H should be parks 59 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.319 on the air, something like that. Calling QRZ at this 60 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.759 point ten minutes he's okay, Now he's in ten minutes 61 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:04.639 straight without iding is just kind of obnoxious. If he's 62 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.879 passed the ten minute mark, then he's in the wrong. Okay, 63 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.120 but this is the first time he's been in the 64 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.400 wrong so far. You ought to be proud of your 65 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:12.960 call signs spewed all over the airways. When activating, you 66 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:15.199 might find your pile ups get a bit bigger from 67 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.719 people like me coming back to you instead of getting 68 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:21.199 frustrated with QRZ and moving along. Okay, all right, so 69 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:23.879 there's some merit to that. I think he's got a point. 70 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.159 It is a little bit frustrating when Poda operators won't id. 71 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:32.000 But as another this is not for myself. I've worked 72 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:35.719 parks on the air. I've activated ninety two unique parts 73 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:38.199 one hundred and eighty five activations. And the only reason 74 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.800 I know that number I don't have it memorized. I 75 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:44.479 just uploaded some potologus like two days ago, so I looked. 76 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.639 I was like, okay, I'm up to ninety two unique parks. 77 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:48.639 I need eight more to break that one hundred marks, 78 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:51.599 so we'll be doing that soon. But regardless of that, 79 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.199 I have worked pile ups on Poda. You can really 80 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:56.800 kind of get rolling, and I find it a little 81 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:00.439 bit unusual that no one came along and for his 82 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.520 call sign during that ten minutes that this poster was 83 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.280 talking about. I find that a little odd. Usually you'll 84 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:10.879 have someone who's impatient who calls back to you that 85 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:12.560 asks for your call sign because they don't have the 86 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.319 patience to listen to you. Usually you'll hear that. So 87 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:18.519 it's a little odd, but it's not impossible. Obviously, it's 88 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.319 not impossible. It's totally doable that you could just go 89 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:26.879 on for that long and not have anyone ID, or 90 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.480 you wouldn't ID and no one would come back to 91 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:32.480 you with your call sign either. So that is a possibility. 92 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.680 So some of these comments are really good. The first 93 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:36.439 one says, so ask for their call sign, maybe that 94 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.879 will remind him to give it more often. He comes 95 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.160 back that someone else replies to him. I've actually had 96 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.199 this where I made a PoTA contact with another park 97 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.279 and then when I made the contact, they just acknowledged 98 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:49.199 me and went back to calling. Okay, so this guy 99 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:51.600 was not a very good operator. Then the elmer who 100 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:53.920 was with me and did the PODA at the same 101 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:55.879 time finally took my mic and had to ask a 102 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.319 half dozen times, getting increasingly annoyed. Finally, one other station 103 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:01.240 must have heard and was like, hey, you got several 104 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.319 people asking for a call sign, when are you going 105 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:05.240 to id? And that's when he took and that's what 106 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:08.680 it took to get it. Yeah, so that's just kind 107 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:11.360 of a careless operator. And I wasn't there. I didn't 108 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.839 hear this exact exchange, but from what you're describing, this 109 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.720 sounds like a careless operator. And then this third and 110 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.199 fourth one. Yeah, he's like, correct, you already had the 111 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:23.199 microphone in your hand, but instead you put down the 112 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:25.000 mic picked up the keyboard to scurry off to Reddit 113 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:26.879 to piss and moan about people who aren't even there. 114 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:28.959 This is a very low chance the Poda guy will 115 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:31.680 even see this thread. OPI has become the dreaded guy 116 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.160 who was yelling at clouds. Okay, so yeah, So, like 117 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:38.000 I said at the beginning, it's unlikely that you actually 118 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.959 listened to him for five minutes and then went and 119 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.160 wrote this article. So you're probably this probably happened to 120 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.319 you earlier in the day and you're writing it and 121 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.040 you were looking at the time. I get it, I 122 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.120 get it. It's cool. It's just the way it's worded 123 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:54.000 is a little bit strange. I thought it's one of 124 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.959 those things, but either way. Either way. Now, one thing 125 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:58.399 I will say about parks on the air is that 126 00:05:58.439 --> 00:05:59.839 if you are doing parks on the air, if you 127 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:01.920 are set up in the park, you should be using 128 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:05.519 Mezzi and Plony Coax. MMP Coacs is the sponsor of 129 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:08.160 today's video. You can save a ten percent discount at 130 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.079 the link in the description BLOW with the coupon code 131 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.879 of HR two cables. You can get their Potaflex, you 132 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:16.439 can get their tools, their connectors, their adapters, everything they sell. 133 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.319 HR two cables. We will get you ten percent off. 134 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:21.439 And that's pretty much. I keep a roll of a 135 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.199 fifty foot roll of Potaflex in my truck and that's 136 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.079 what I use to put a ninety five percent of 137 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:28.560 the time. I've got two or three other pieces of 138 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.240 coacs that'll use as well sometimes. But that Potaflex is 139 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:33.680 cool because it rolls right up, easy to carry, easy 140 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:35.480 to use. Check out the link of description BLOW and 141 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:37.879 thank you M ANDP for supporting this channel. This one 142 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:40.319 right here is my favorite comment. This is my favorite 143 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.480 comment right here. No Bath eighty six thirty five. I 144 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.920 don't disagree, but I get more annoyed by the people 145 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.480 who ask for the station's call sign, even though they've 146 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:52.720 been giving it out after every exchange because they couldn't 147 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.040 be bothered to listen before throwing out their call. So yes, 148 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.759 this right here in the original poster replies as I agree, 149 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:02.879 which is why I wait to hear a call before 150 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.519 making contact. But if I have to wait ten minutes 151 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.240 to get your call, I'm not going to make contact. 152 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.680 I can see that point as well. So with me, 153 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:13.399 this is my personal opinion, this is my personal experience. Okay. 154 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:20.319 And I have several times been calling cqpodaqpoda and I'll 155 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.959 start working a pile up and I'll say, okay, qrzed. 156 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.160 The next guy come back to me, okay QRZ. The 157 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:27.480 next guy will come back to me, okay QRZ from 158 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:29.839 Kilo Charlie five Hotel, Whiskey bubble Parks in the air. 159 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.879 The next guy will come back to me, and then 160 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.079 someone else will come back to me. Okay, And I 161 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:37.319 have just said my call sign like a minute and 162 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.639 a half prior to that, like a minute and a 163 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.920 half prior to that, I said my call sign, and 164 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.000 then someone comes back to me and says, now, what's 165 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.360 your call sign again? I'm like Why are you calling 166 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.240 someone that you don't know what their call sign is? Why? 167 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:51.839 Why are you You can't be bothered to listen for 168 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.079 more than ninety seconds because I just gave my call 169 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.360 sign okay, and I'll probably give it again in two 170 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.879 or three other roundabouts. But that is what I find 171 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.839 more annoying than anything. I have listened and hunted PODA 172 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.360 a lot of times in the truck. If I've got 173 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.879 my HEF radio setup, which I do right now, a 174 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:09.720 lot of times in the truck, I will listen. I 175 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.879 will just scroll through the band and listen for people 176 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.560 calling c Q PODA, and I'll do PODA hunting that way. 177 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.040 And yes, sometimes it takes some people a long time 178 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.959 to give their ID, that's true, But I think that's 179 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:25.120 my experience is then that that's not as common, and 180 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:27.480 it's much more common for someone to come along while 181 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:32.039 you're activating PODA and call you and say, now, what's 182 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:34.519 your call sign? I'm like, how do you not know 183 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:36.840 my call sign? It just gave it ninety seconds ago, 184 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.440 and why are you working me? Because if you didn't 185 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.159 hear that, you probably didn't hear I was doing parks 186 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:43.879 on the air, So why are you calling back to me. 187 00:08:44.279 --> 00:08:46.360 Maybe I'm doing a special event that you don't care about. 188 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.360 How do you know? That's kind I find that kind 189 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.799 of annoying. That's my own personal rant. But there you go, 190 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.720 right there, all right? So this one right here, this 191 00:08:54.759 --> 00:09:00.840 next comment right here, I especially liked. This was replied 192 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.639 by Dan KB six and you now I'm gonna say 193 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:06.639 right here. Dan's a great guy. He taught the technician 194 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:10.440 class on my channel. It's currently he makes the no 195 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:14.200 nonsense guides, and he taught a six hour technician class 196 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:15.840 on this channel that you can go watch now if 197 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:17.919 you want to get your first time radio license. And 198 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.759 he's an excellent teacher and an excellent operator. But I 199 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:22.919 don't agree with what he says here. So let's read 200 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:27.279 this really quick. Okay, Angry Fox brewing? Cool? Is that 201 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:29.480 a brewery? I need to go check that out. PODA 202 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.919 in a pile up can definitely mean QRZ gets called 203 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.080 a few times between the activators, but I agree ten 204 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.960 minutes between ideas far too long. I personally try to 205 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:40.480 id every other call of QRZED when I'm trying to 206 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:42.919 activate and make sure listening stations can get the information 207 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:44.960 and their log when they get through the pile up. 208 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:47.480 It's also fair to just ask the station for their 209 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.320 call sign immediately upon them coming back to you. That 210 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.480 will likely help you and all the other stations listening 211 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:57.600 if the idea is infrequent. Agreed, agreed, Yeah, so asking 212 00:09:57.639 --> 00:09:59.960 for their ideas good. And then Dan comes along the 213 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.480 he says, not only is it too short to wait, 214 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.159 is actually illegal to do so. The rules say you 215 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.720 have to id every ten minutes or at the end 216 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.519 of the communication, so that station should be iding after 217 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.639 every q so. And then some guy came along and says, well, 218 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:15.960 that rule didn't apply to me because I'm not in 219 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.440 the United States. Blah blah blah blah whatever. Okay, yeah, 220 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:24.519 quite literally, you're being too persnickety on that reply there. Yeah, 221 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:28.240 maybe you haven't grown up yet. Yeah that makes sense. Okay, 222 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.960 it's the dude's name. I don't know. But more back 223 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.200 to the point with what Dan said. Okay, not only 224 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.080 is it too long to wait, it's actually illegal to 225 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.639 do so. I disagree. I disagree it's illegal to do so. 226 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.639 Dan is correct when he says it's required to ide 227 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:47.159 at the end of a communication, But in my mind, 228 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:50.840 your PoTA activation is the communication. Just because you're talking 229 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.919 to multiple people doesn't mean you haven't stopped the activation. 230 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:57.279 You haven't gone qRT, you haven't put the mic down 231 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:00.840 and packed up and gone home. You're still going if 232 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.159 I work one contact, which would would mean that I 233 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.279 don't activate the park. So let's say ten. If I 234 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.799 work ten contacts or I work one hundred and ten 235 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.639 contacts on the potoactivation, that's one PoTA activation. Assuming I 236 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:15.600 do it within the twenty four hour UTC day, that's 237 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.039 one PoTA activation, and I should ID at the end 238 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.879 of I should idea every ten minutes, absolutely, but I 239 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.679 should IDA at the end of that complete set of 240 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.320 activation contacts. I don't think in the best spirit of 241 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:30.639 the rules to end your to IDA at the end 242 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.480 of every communication means if you're working a pilot and 243 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:36.279 working one hundred people, that you have to IDEA a 244 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.320 hundred times. I don't think that's what it means, or 245 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.759 at least I don't interpret it that way. So I 246 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.559 don't agree with what I see what he's saying, and 247 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.840 he's not wrong. I'm just not defining the communication the 248 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.600 same way that Dan is. I would like to know 249 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.279 what you guys think about that specific topic inside of 250 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:53.519 this whole topic. Put a comment in the video, blow, 251 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.200 I'd like to know what you think. There's a few 252 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:56.919 more comments in here, but they're all kind of basically 253 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.559 the same thing. I mean, the guy was obviously the activator, 254 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:05.120 was obviously not iding often enough, no question there. If 255 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.759 he was iding more than ten minutes, he was not 256 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.879 iding often enough. But it's on you also, you as 257 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:13.559 the hunter. You could go act to talk to him 258 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:17.200 and ask for his call sign. There's nothing wrong with 259 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.879 that either. I understand you don't want to do that, 260 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:21.440 and you're like, well, I shouldn't have to, And I 261 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.600 guess technically you're correct, But how much do you want 262 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.159 to be right? Do you want to be right and 263 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.679 not make the contact and not have that log that 264 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.039 person content. Maybe you need that state for worked all states. 265 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.120 Maybe you need that park because you're park hunter. I 266 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.639 don't know. Is it worth not making the contact just 267 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:40.600 because you think he's not operating correctly and something else? 268 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:43.960 I think, and this is just kind of my own 269 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:46.440 personal thing as well, but it seems to me like 270 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:51.559 if you ID after every transmission that screams new operator. 271 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:54.440 To me, everyone starts somewhere You learn as you go, 272 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.200 you get better. We should all be doing parks on 273 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.600 the air pilops and getting better, getting to be better operators. 274 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.639 You'd always strive to be a better operator. I would 275 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.879 like to know what you guys agree about this entire 276 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.600 topic and article. I'll put a link to the article 277 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.399 in the description in the in the in the description blow, 278 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.240 you guys can go check it out in the comments section. 279 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:14.480 Thanks for watching today.