1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Something that's been going on in the music industry news. Actually, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,919 this is what we do when uh, when something goes 3 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:10,800 awry with with a guest. Is what happened today with 4 00:00:10,839 --> 00:00:14,279 our our our number two guest. There's been a lot 5 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:16,920 of the biggest kind of news I think over the 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:23,519 past week in music in the world of music is Oasis. Uh. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,320 They are reuniting the band. Uh the Gallagher brothers, Uh, 8 00:00:27,879 --> 00:00:29,800 Liam and Noel Gallagher. 9 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:31,039 Speaker 2: Uh. 10 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: You know, bands fighting or I'm sorry I should say 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,399 brothers fighting within bands. 12 00:00:37,039 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: Uh not an unusual thing. 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,679 Speaker 1: History tells us, you know you've got the Kinks. You 15 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:45,320 know you've got Ray Davies and Dave Davies and their 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,240 epic arguments and so forth. But apparently, uh, the Gallagher 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,560 brothers putting their differences aside for a big reunion tour. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:52,799 Speaker 2: We have a call. 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Let's grab this call. So he was, oh, no, nobody there, Okay, 20 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:58,840 someone was just calling us. Uh yeah, the Gallagher brothers. Uh, 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,280 they're putting putting their differences aside for this tour. But 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,280 it was interesting to see some of the reactions on 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,879 social media because people are cynical very often, and a 24 00:01:09,879 --> 00:01:12,719 lot of people are suggesting that well, this isn't going 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,599 to last, this isn't going to be real. The tour 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,319 will end up getting canceled, you know, after five dates, 27 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,680 because the Gallaghers are particularly famous for not getting along 28 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:28,319 and like I said, brothers arguing within bands. You've got 29 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,719 Ray Davies and Ray and Dave Davies from the Kinks. 30 00:01:34,719 --> 00:01:37,359 You've got bands where you have not necessarily brothers, but 31 00:01:37,599 --> 00:01:41,079 people who are like brothers, like you know, Tyler and 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Perry of Aerosmith so forth. But there are a lot 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,359 of examples of actual blood brothers and bands not getting along. 34 00:01:48,719 --> 00:01:51,239 So there's already a lot of cynicism, a lot of 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,439 skepticism about, you know, whether this Oasis tour is really 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,000 gonna is really gonna happen. But there's also an issue 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,879 with getting tickets, and the AP is reporting error messages 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,799 and lengthy online cues greet fans scrambling to secure Oasis 39 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:12,599 reunion tickets. It says here Oasis fans seeking tickets to 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,520 the band's reunion tour endured hours long waits and in 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,520 some cases disappointment, as online platforms strained under demand Saturday 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,639 from hundreds of thousands of fans. The britpop era behemoth, 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,439 led by brothers Noel and Liam Gallagher, is scheduled to 44 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:34,240 play seventeen gigs. 45 00:02:33,039 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: And that's it. That's a short actually a short tour. 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,879 Speaker 3: It's first limited chances to see them. Yeah. 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, These are their first shows in fifteen years, kicking 48 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:50,159 off in Cardiff, Manchester, London, Edinburgh and Dublin starting July four. No, 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,439 that is not Manchester, New Hampshire, of course, Manchester, England. 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,560 More than one million tickets went on sale on Saturday morning, 51 00:02:56,599 --> 00:03:00,599 with prices starting at about seventy four pounds, which would 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,719 be just under one hundred dollars American. Some people attempting 53 00:03:04,719 --> 00:03:07,759 to get into the handful of authorized sales sites including 54 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:13,360 Ticketmaster and Gigs and Tours received error messages, while many 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,199 others were informed they were in a lengthy queue. Josh Jeffrey, 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,439 a videographer who lives near Edinburgh, spent hours moving up 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,840 the online ticket queue before the whole site collapsed At 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,159 the last step. He said, I've given up. My friends 59 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:33,759 have given up. We just decided it's too much hassle. 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,319 As I was in the queue, I heard wonderwall blasting 61 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:40,800 out from my neighbor's house. He'd obviously gotten tickets. 62 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:45,919 Speaker 3: Yes, wow, yeah, And they were saying that within hours 63 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,439 of the tickets going on sale, they were turning up 64 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:54,599 on resale websites for as much as seventy eight hundred dollars. Yeah, 65 00:03:54,879 --> 00:03:58,360 seventy eight hundred dollars per ticket. No, thank you. 66 00:03:58,719 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's it. 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,879 Speaker 3: I don't like nobody that much. 68 00:04:01,759 --> 00:04:04,159 Speaker 2: The way, So that. 69 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:08,639 Speaker 1: Apparently is trying to look it up quickly. That specifically 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,840 is being addressed apparently by Oasis. They don't want they 71 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:15,919 don't want these resale sites selling the tickets. 72 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're warning people not to buy. 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Them right right, Which is interesting because so the way 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,920 the secondhand ticket market works is so some of these 75 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:30,959 resale sites, obviously they're basically scalpers online. You know, they 76 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:33,439 buy up all these tickets and then they resell them 77 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:35,879 on their own sites. But some of them, this is 78 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:40,639 what's a little little dirty about it to some people. 79 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,639 Depends on we could actually do a whole segment on 80 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,079 this one of these days. Sometimes the resale site isn't 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,319 necessarily a scalper site. Sometimes it's a resale site that 82 00:04:52,519 --> 00:04:55,040 is in some way affiliated with the main site. So 83 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,079 for example, Ticketmaster, I forget what they're like, there's a 84 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,680 there's another site that's like a reseller, but but they 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,800 actually just get like they're actually owned by ticket Master. 86 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:12,439 Speaker 2: It's it's all very weird and it's a little dirty. 87 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:13,959 This uh, this business. 88 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Whole thing is. And the thing I don't understand that 89 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,680 they do, though, is that the the AP talks about 90 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:24,800 how the the bands are warning people not to buy them, 91 00:05:25,079 --> 00:05:28,160 that they're saying that these tickets are either counterfeit or 92 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:32,759 they're getting canceled by the promoter. So if these tickets 93 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:36,600 show up on secondary sites, they're actually getting canceled, right, 94 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,560 and you've got a nothing ticket? Which how did they 95 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,560 get away with doing that? 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,519 Speaker 2: Which I don't. 97 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:44,199 Speaker 1: Understand, which I've never seen that before, where where these 98 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,160 tickets are actually getting canceled. 99 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: I don't understand how that works. 100 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,879 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's a tangled, tangled web this business. 101 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,079 Remember years and years ago when Pearl Jam tried to 102 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:56,600 take on Ticketmaster and how that they ended up. 103 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: They ended up giving up. 104 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: Book of Masters like the Giant. 105 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, so Variety has this story up. 106 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,879 Speaker 1: Oasis warns against reselling as fans report technical issues getting 107 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:11,680 tickets for the reunion tour. Yeah, because you know, you 108 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,040 try to get the tickets, you end up in it's 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,120 like when you're trying to buy them. It's like when 110 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,360 you're trying to call some customer service line and you're 111 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:22,079 put into a queue, and you know, and your waighttime 112 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,040 is three hours and fifty eight minutes, you know, estimated waytime, 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,800 and then you know an hour later, your estimated waytime 114 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:30,839 is now three hours and fifty one. 115 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: Minutes, and you don't know if you're ever gonna get through, 116 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,879 and then eventually you just get hung up on It's 117 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:35,279 like that. 118 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: But but so then so they try to buy these tickets, 119 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,959 so then they go to one of the secondary sites. 120 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:44,000 So here's what Variety is reporting. Oasis fans aren't finding 121 00:06:44,199 --> 00:06:47,120 much glory this morning while trying to buy tickets for 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,000 the band's highly anticipated reunion tour, with many reporting technical issues. 123 00:06:52,439 --> 00:06:56,240 I'm gonna skip down, okay, So it says here it's 124 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,079 part of this we covered already. So in a statement 125 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,279 to Variety, Ticketmaster set its site had not crashed and 126 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:07,879 the queue is moving along. Well, I suppose if you're 127 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,000 sitting there, by the way, if you're sitting there at 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 your computer, on the site. You know it maybe it 129 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,519 crashes or maybe your browser is having an issue. You 130 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,560 can't be sure, but most likely it crashed, and I 131 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,639 think Ticketmaster is probably just not being honest. But okay, 132 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:25,199 so I know it's shocking. So, a spokesperson said, quote, 133 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,879 as anticipated, millions of fans are accessing our site so 134 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:32,519 have been placed in a queue. Fans are advised to 135 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,800 hold their place in line. Make sure they're only using 136 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:39,160 one tab clear cookies, and I'm sure they aren't using 137 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,439 any VPN software on their device. 138 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,279 Speaker 2: Unquote. 139 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: Geez, you can figure everything before you try to buy tickets. 140 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,879 Speaker 1: As fans scrambled for tickets, Oasis repeatedly warned against scams 141 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:58,040 and ticket reselling. In a message posted to x later 142 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,600 on Saturday morning, the band wrote quote and by the way, 143 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:02,959 the band, you know, it's not like one of the 144 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,079 gallaghers is actually writing this. Obviously it's management, but this 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,839 is what was written. 146 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,639 Speaker 2: Quote. Please note Oasis. 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,639 Speaker 1: Live twenty five tickets can only be resold at face 148 00:08:12,839 --> 00:08:19,240 value via at Ticketmaster UK and at twickets. Tickets appearing 149 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:23,879 on other secondary ticketing sites are either counterfeit or will 150 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:28,000 be canceled by the promoters. Unquote. Soon after the pre 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,399 sale for the tour started on Friday night, tickets began 152 00:08:30,439 --> 00:08:34,720 appearing on reselling websites such as stub hub and via 153 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:38,360 go Go for as much as six thousand whatever that 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,399 is pounds. I guess face value for a standing ticket 155 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,519 to the tour is one hundred and fifty pounds, and 156 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:46,799 seated tickets range up to two hundred five pounds. By 157 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:49,000 the way, stub Hub, I think stub hub is the site, 158 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,360 the secondary quote unquote secondary site that is actually owned 159 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,240 by ticket masters. Oh no, K I believe it's stub Hub. 160 00:08:56,039 --> 00:08:59,120 The other two websites, gigs and Tour and see Tickets, 161 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,080 were reported to be holding fans in a temporary queue 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,519 before directing them to the purchase page. But h yeah, 163 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,000 so so the band's management is warning, you know, don't 164 00:09:10,039 --> 00:09:13,799 go to these secondary sites. I'm gonna look this up 165 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,480 really quickly. I want to know if I'm right about that, if. 166 00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:19,519 Speaker 3: I was actually just trying to look that up too. 167 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,840 But I didn't quite get this. 168 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: Stub Hub my computer. 169 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 3: My computer slowed down. 170 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:27,639 Speaker 2: Well that I suggest. If that's the case. 171 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,759 Speaker 3: I must clear my cookies. 172 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Take ticketmaster's advice. Uh clear, yes, clear, your cookies and 173 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:36,879 your cash and uh no VPNs. 174 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I have that. 175 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I was wrong. StubHub is not owned by Ticketmaster. 176 00:09:42,759 --> 00:09:48,519 StubHub is privately owned. Maybe it's seat geek there. There 177 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,679 is a secondary company, a secondary market company that is 178 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:57,240 owned by Ticketmaster. But uh yeah, so that's what's going 179 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:01,919 on there. I think that, Uh, I do think the 180 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:03,799 tour will happen again. Like I said, there's a lot 181 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:07,240 of cynicism online. You know, there was, I remember back 182 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,879 when Oasis first got really big. There's there's actually an EP, 183 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,399 you know, a bootleg that someone put out or a 184 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,159 CD of one of their I think it's called Sibling Rivalry, 185 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,080 and it's they were in the studio and someone left 186 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,279 the tape rolling on an argument that Nolan William Gallagher 187 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,960 were having in studio where they're yelling at each other, 188 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,519 and it's I'm sure it's on YouTube. It's kind of interest. 189 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,039 I pull it up and play it, but there's definitely 190 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,279 profanity in it. So but uh yeah, So that's that's 191 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,399 what's going on with Oasis there. So I don't know 192 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,039 if there are they planning to come to the United States. 193 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:44,639 Speaker 2: They must be. 194 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: Ticket Master also owns Live Nation. 195 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,759 Speaker 1: Yes, they are one and the same and have been 196 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,799 for a long time, to the chagrin of some people 197 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,799 who believe that that is a monopoly. Uh, and that 198 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:00,120 that merger should not have been approved by the govern 199 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,960 But we won't get into all of that. 200 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: They also acquired front Gate Tickets. Uh, that's another company. Yeah, 201 00:11:10,279 --> 00:11:11,679 they apparently acquired. 202 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they gobble up a lot of these smaller ticket companies. 203 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:20,039 Speaker 3: But there's another one called Universe that they got that's 204 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:22,000 a DIY ticketing platform. 205 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:22,919 Speaker 2: Really. 206 00:11:23,159 --> 00:11:24,639 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm just getting to kick at all the 207 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,480 stuff they own here. 208 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they try to gobble everybody tickets. 209 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,639 Speaker 3: Front Gate Tickets, Yeah they got that one too. 210 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:33,039 Speaker 1: But there's a major one that everyone's heard of, and 211 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,080 I can't remember who it is. 212 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:38,759 Speaker 3: Upgraded girts physical tickets into digital ones. 213 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,799 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there isn't. Maybe there isn't. I 214 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,919 thought it was a big one that people have heard of, 215 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,360 like stub Hub, that everyone's just kind of aware of. 216 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,039 But they try to but they try to conceal that 217 00:11:49,039 --> 00:11:51,679 they're actually owned by a Ticketmaster. Maybe I'm wrong.