Speaker 1: Get up the fags, get out of the bags times, get
off the fitch. Hello, ladies, gentlemen, and welcome to the
six hundred and seventy eight episode of the Geek for
his podcast. I'm the Clown Princes Podcast.
Speaker 2: Trust now, I'm the Fantastic Field Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, lady, shown here we are. If you're watching live,
we're a little early because man, it's it's been it's
been a little bit. I'm gonna share this link because
I'm so unprepared, and then I'm gonna rant in a second. Taylor,
just tell people what we got going on right now
in the feeds, you know, so I gather my beans.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, you can find us with your connection.
The search bar Geek Forsa is our home base, key verscast,
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We've got Weekly Geeks side quests. We come around the pole.
What's the weekly pole? The weekly poll is us whenever
we're gonna review Assassin's Creed on the Netflix show or not? Right,
but yeah, we've got lots of stuff that's that's going good.
We've got Dexter reviews with Dexter Resurrection that's popping off
right now. Uh, and then we had Superman. You can
check out the retrospective that we did for that, but
we did the movie review last week, and then next
week the Year four big episode the year Yeah, yeah,
fantastic DC comeback. So lots of stuff is just popping
off here and yeah joined the page.
Speaker 1: So says this has got to be the most decy
discussion in a single week ever. Definitely for us, I
feel like other than I feel like the week the
Snyder cut was announced, because there was like the announcement,
the fallout, and then just like more stuff about it,
that was a big time. I feel like, maybe not weekly,
but I feel like when they were looking for a
new president, we talked about it a lot. But yeah,
there's just lots of news pouring out. But yeah, we're
a little early because man, what a fucking what a
fucking night's and I'm people know, I got to wait
for like an after nine or bread butter or whatnot.
I've been working on putting a pool in the backyard,
and the yard, if you listen to originals, that was
the whole thing. This pool, the whole thing. I don't
recommend it. What I recommend is you save your money,
pay someone to set it up, and even then there's
something wrong in their pool fixed. It pretty much still
leaking to you. But it's okay, we've pretty much figured out.
So I'm just busy. And of course it's like, oh yeah,
it's gonna be easy task. My mom's a liar. It
was not easy task at all. Thought she'd be researchers
the whole day. She brings up this YouTube video. Oh look,
this is what you do. It's like, well, you got
the whole day, Travis. Yeah, but it's like, well what
do I do with this? Oh well, I don't know,
but in this YouTube videos, it's like, okay, cool, So
I end up it sounds up being my task. That's fine.
But anyway, so all this is happening, I see this
is a geek for his episode. It is an episode
because we're doing Fantastic four predictions. We're talking about one woman,
we're talking about the opening weekend for a fantast four,
We're talking about some other DC stuff. What else we
talking about? We got tons of trailers like it's a
juicy episode and we're supposed to be doing the draft,
So patrons, I guess everybody looks at the schedule. You
saw we had the combook draft. We were supposed to
be doing that tonight, but uh, Dylan was under the weather,
so he's already out for news. He said, Okay, I
can do the draft. Kirkland. You know little mouth pats
are Oh, I got a mind grain I can't do it.
He's probably just not prepared. He looked at these lists
and he's like, I don't even have two people. Fuck,
I gotta delay this. And you know, I even talked
to So I'm just seeing all this stuff and then
I'm seeing Dylan said, oh, we could do it Friday.
This is no offense Dylan because he doesn't know. But
it's like we already got decks to stupman ranks. It's like, no,
can't do it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not here for for I'm not here tomorrow.
I booked that off.
Speaker 1: No, you're not that off.
Speaker 2: When I put that in like months ago, months ago,
I looked. I was like, oh, it's just dexter o count.
I have to take it off.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Man,
Here you go people inside, look to our schedule, Look
at the eighteenth. Is there any Taylor not available. There
the purple it's on.
Speaker 2: It's on the calendar. It's not You better betroll me
right now because remember I remember I said I had
to book the eighteenth off too, and it doesn't even
say it on there, but it says it.
Speaker 1: And this is why, this is why it doesn't make sense.
Because if you look at the fifth right up there,
July fifth, it says Taylor not available. And this is
the weird thing. Everybody, look, look at this calendar. This
this is there. Yeah, oh no, I gotta take something
off the calendar. That's gonna that's gonna spoil some things. Anyways,
you can see it now if people want. But like like,
this is the calendar and this is for We've had
this for about now three years now, so this is
what we got right. This is the blues of greens
means something. But as you can see the deep purple.
This is this first ten minutes. If you're just here
for news, skip ahead of you with the podcast theater,
come back later. First time news is gonna be a
rant and you're seeing inside the gate for so we
do this. I plan this out, big planner. So as
you can see the green those are GV episodes or
Patreon episodes, so those are like must those are like
the green is usually like okay, that's all of us together,
where a blue is like either optional or when you
click on it, it's gonna be like desttranting to review
Dylan Travis, right, And then I got obviously the light
pink there for g or for gimmick stuff, so that's
all good there. And then as you can see, the
deep purple are unavailable. So as you can see, I
was not available because I had Gwen's birthday and what
to da da? And then uh, Kirklan's not available because
he's an Alberta. But Taylor just did it now and
he's like, oh see, you can show it. But you
can see up above at July fifth, he already had
a slot that's a un available. Now he's just added
it in. So my god, I don't know what the
hell to do now because the Superman rankings tomorrow and
I said.
Speaker 2: That he said light blues optional, so it's all good.
Speaker 1: It's no what did I say? It's awful to you
click on the episode and then it says who's on that?
So now I'm double I'm so pissed all around because
now Dylan is like, oh, we just do it Friday.
It's like, well, we're gonna double. Can't do a triple,
Like I can't do a triple barely see Emily enough,
you know, so I can't do triple. And it's like, okay,
So now I gotta look and look at our schedule.
It has packed a lot of stuff. It is big
time packs. It's like I had to find a way
now because Taylor fucking liar didn't put it in there.
I gotta find to re rank the Superman rankings and
now the Superhero draft prediction. That's wrong.
Speaker 2: I put it on my calendar but didn't post to
the geek Verse, but it listed it. It's stupid shit.
Speaker 1: Well fuck me right, that doesn't help me out.
Speaker 2: Now, let's put let's look back at Dylan and Kirkle,
especially that Kirkling guy, that bastard not showing up tonight.
Speaker 1: What is he thinking, Well, yeah, I'll brand to himnother time. GMO, Yeah,
GMO this Sunday, no question marks ten am PST. Look
up for that. So but anyways, so yeah, Tayor constantly
has this and then so I'm dealing with this pool
and I go Okay, we were supposed to start this
at nine, so we're a little early right now, So like, yeah,
sure we can start early. Theaters to edit the newscast
always take a little longer, so I'm trying to be
a nice guys, so I'm like, we can start early.
Can I just let you know when the pool is done?
And while I'm just pissed off, I'm dealing with this,
everything's going wrong, So I guess it's a weekly geek
and I'm just want my dad was reply to my
own message and just a question mark and just like
just answer the fucking what.
Speaker 2: Am I gonna give you a hard time for? Of
course I'm not gonna say anything.
Speaker 1: Uh, I need to know. I'm in the middle, Like
I can't check my phone the time, I have one
belt where my hands are dry, i don't have goggles on.
I'm not trying to be protected from chlorine. And I'm like, oh,
hopefully he'll answer before I do this next step. Oh,
it looks like a weekly geek. Just say yes, just
say no.
Speaker 2: And if you're if you're sending like it's it's a
like almost life and death and you just gotta send
one message. You only get time for one message, it's like, hey,
I'm gonna be late, just automatically know with me. It's
it's cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool.
Speaker 2: If you're saying you're late, it's gonna be fine. If
you're saying you're gonna be like hey, four days late,
then you know, check your message again after kirk yea.
Speaker 1: Four days late. So yeah, yeah, there you go. So yeah,
there you go. The schedule is in a complete flux
lation and that's why I am fired up right now.
But we're gonna have a fun time. We're gonna do
fantastic four predictions. I hope you got the chat GPT
stuff going.
Speaker 2: You're working on that right I'm working on AIM.
Speaker 1: You're working on that. It said all day to work
on it just now. But yeah, we got lots of
stuff head over. We do have August ninth is our
ten year anniversary stream. We will be streaming at least
for ten hours. Right now, what are we in? I
think probably what we'll do is, yeah, the last week
of July, we're gonna announce all So what we're gonna
do is Allstate's ten hours, but we're making that. If
you subscribe to Patreon, if you up your tier, or
send in a super chat. We will move up the time,
so why they're going you know, for half an hour, more,
hour more, and we are gonna have stretch goals. Some
things will do with the day of some things will
be like content you might unlock. Hey, if we go
two hours, you'll do this. I've alreadynounced if you hit
us in the one hour, we'll release the teaser for
a third movie, which is very rough cut. It's not
even done production lation, but you got to see a
little bit of that. So there's lots of cool stuff already.
We're gonna have guests from the past, announcements, we have
a bunch of shows. We're doing the nineteen ninety four
home Geeks, We're doing Triviune with the patrons. And that's
a reminder. You have till the last week. You have
to like August what is the official date. You have
to know July thirty. Have two respond and say that
you want to join it. So if your Phase two
and up join and you'll be on either my team
or Dylan's team, TiO is gonna prepare a bunch of
questions for us. So there you go. You can start
selling tickets for that, like movies you're earlier, like nol
hold time on a second. Yeah, I wish it's still Adrenochrome.
Still planning a little release next year at some point.
There's still more festivals there, just longer. But the festivals
man never never attribute because some some festivals legitimate people.
If you're trying to get in that industry, there's so
many festivals where it's like you submit and you're not
gonna find out for another eight to nine months and
you just can't you're not allowed to release it into
the public and stuff. So that's something I did not
attribute for when I was a rookie going into the
film stuff. So but we'll have announcements, guests, we're gonna
be doing keek versus, we're gonna be doing couples trivia
with each other, we're gonna be doing I think there's
but we had like seven events and there's some stuff
that we haven't even anounced yet. We're waiting to see
if it's confirmed. You can look at that schedule, but
we're trying to get everything down. So the thirtieth of Jly,
that's where we're gonna give be the final rundown everything
we're doing and it's gonna be a good time. I'm
very excited the way it's lining up. You're gonna get
best does and montage. Maybe here's some other people from
the past. So yeah, it's gonna be a very good time.
So mark down the day and lots of that stuff
off so you can watch the reflay after, but lots
of stuff will also put on the podcast feeds as well.
But yeah, in honor of that, this week we released
the Dynamic Due episode Me Kyle Lean haven't recorded it
an episode since COVID, so it's like five years, but
we haven't been together since twenty seventeen in a podcast form,
so that's a fun one. I do apologize on the
audio was a little wonky because we just had some
cord issues with my mic and we did thank you,
yes must for showing We did figure it out, unfortunately,
which is something we couldn't fix because it's needed a
different type of chord. It. It was a whole ordeal,
but we figured out myself Antao once we talked like, okay,
that makes sense now for GVDA, we know what the
issue was there, But yeah, that was It's still tons
of fun. It's a little echoey at times in my
audio is not the not like supreme here, but it's
miles better than what Dynamic Deal used to be. So
it's tons of fun to catch it with Kyle Liams.
So if you are a if you're a newer fan,
check that out. Obviously you don't know those guys as well,
but if you're an older like the first five years
of GV, you guys know. They were on the first
spin offs and they're some of my best friends there.
So we had a good time talking about that and yeah,
Taya hit all the other plugs, but yeah, what do
you think Tar about this whole Nolan and the Odyssey?
Obviously it's not everywhere. And I did figure it out
with the because you because I was like, oh maybe well,
I was like, oh, maybe I'll take a trip out
there because this is what i'd like to see an imax.
Oh you know, maybe me too. So I didn't know
for sure, there's no trip plan with Geek Frist, I'm like, well,
I'm gonna buy these tickets just to be sure. S
Bub's Luckily, while we were doing Dynamic Deo was like, oh,
tickets are on sell for all these Langley sold out.
My worry though, was that you said, oh, well, have
to wait for Abbotsford, which could be true. But the
thing is, what I want to see is those ones
that sold or the seventy millimeter so like the Imax,
but pristine one. I don't know if Abbotsford has that,
you know, so that's something we might have to look into.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they have that. I just
know that they have Imax.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we should if we can see in seventy milimeter,
it's the way to go down my eyes. I've never
seen one on the big screen like that, so.
Speaker 2: I've never seen one of the little screen.
Speaker 1: So but what do you think about? What do you
what do you think about this? Uh? This kind of
it's an advertised point. What do you just think about? This?
Is that they're already selling tickets. It's estimated to earn
already one point five million. Well Millan I said, I said,
I saw Dylan. I put Millan and Dylan together, boys
coming down to Van. Maybe I would like to that's
one for and that's why you can see on the screen.
I had four tickets, like I had one for me,
one for Taylor, one for Dylan, one for Clerkham before
I even knew who was going, Like, I gotta buy
these tickets for the boys. But the seats, I'll pull
it up. I you thought those seats were fine. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I would have been okay to the far side or
in the in the middle right.
Speaker 1: See that's so the so the obviously got the screen
right there and the white is where we were. I
just thought that was way too much to the side.
I like that we're almost the point where we're looking
over like I think if we're if we're making a
trip tailor to IMAX, especially some millimeter, we don't want
to be seen like from the side. I feel like
we want to be dead center.
Speaker 2: You do, and that's why the the center for there
that are kind of up in the front. I would
still take that. I think that it looks closer than
it is in the screen shot there, but I think
I think it would be okay. You know, you'd literally
be like you'd be floating on the ocean with whatever
the fucking guy's.
Speaker 1: Name is, da Odysseus, Odysseus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be floating on that raft with Odysseus at
that close ring.
Speaker 1: But the good thing is those are only they only
had screenings for two PM. So I think if we
can get some Thursday late night ones around the time,
then that would be that would be prime. So let's
see what says for those seventy millimeter IMAX. If you're
not in the middle near the back, ideally you won't
see well, So there you go, Taylor. So you s
bubs who just recently saw I think Sinners in seventy
milimeter you don't want to be sitting where with the middle,
so it might be worth that. But yeah, what do
you think about this? Uh? This ploy? I don't think
we've ever seen this with a movie before. Tickets like
sale a year in advance? What do you think about this?
Speaker 2: How the fuck am I supposed to plan a year
in advance right now? I know some people they plan trips,
you know, they buy their plane tickets to do all that,
but they based their whole lives around that. The whole
family's going, this is some crazy shit. I don't know
how I'm supposed to plan a year from now. So
its official release is what was it, twenty twenty six
July July sixteenth.
Speaker 1: It was yesterday, so it's literally a year in advance.
Speaker 2: M so that's how many months sixteen is that?
Speaker 1: Well, you can count out, so that's February, March, April, May, June, July, May, June, July.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's seven months after January, so that probably
six months and six months six January, okay, January first specific. Yeah,
then that works, you know, for for my life schedule.
Then that I can I can make that. I can
make that. So if if it, if it come push
comes to shove and you get that ticket, you can
get me a ticket.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. And the thing is you can
just always return the ticket. It's not like a trick
like and it's only to Vancouver. It's an easy one
to do, right, So that's true.
Speaker 2: That is true. I was looking at Oh sorry, I hope.
Speaker 1: This doesn't become a trend. Lots of people have said
that because I Dylaniel hate this too. People are reselling
the Odysty tickets like one hundred and fifty dollars. Here's
here's the thing, though, I I I hope it doesn't either,
but I don't. I think the movies that could do
this are literally on one hand, it would be like
you know, Doomsday or Secret Wars. I don't even think
the Batman two could do that, and I think Nolan
has just like he has that big kahone is that
no one can go, hey, I'm gonna And I don't
think it's just Nolan, and I honestly think like there
is some pain to it, but I think it's a
brilliant marketing thing because now already this movie had one
teaser out it's not even public but share where the
TEASER's fine, But now it's there's headlines everywhere where It's like, oh, honestly,
he's already made one point five million dollars tickets on sale,
even people that won't buy the resale tickets. It's like
the fact that that's the thing. So already a year out,
just putting the tickets online has become a marketing stunt
where versus like, let's say they want on sale two
months before, it just would have been like, oh, tickets
are on sale, cool, I'll buy them now, right, But
this becomes like a first time everything. So and I'm
not gonna doubt them because I doubted Universal Normal with Oppenheimer,
because remember they did that thing where the YouTube or
Universal was like the Oppenheimer trailer, Like I repeat for me. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that, so that was something that was weird.
But it obviously Barbenheimer helped as well too, but that worked.
So to me, it's kind of like I'm not gonna
question them, and I think this is worked because yeah,
other than the resale part, it's like everyone's talking about
this and it's dominated like the film Twitter conversation, so
I can't. I think it's the same way when people
were selling like No Way Home resale tickets. It's like
worst case scenario, I'll catch the next screen. It's not
gonna it's not like a one time ever thing. So
but yeah, definitely, I think we should be making some
trip there and then we can bring our gear in
podcasts at Dome's place. So that only point. But I
do that's the thing. So Dyl, I'm not sure. I can't.
I don't want to say what we're on air. I
can't remember how far you would be from theor Langley.
But that's that's what I want say, you two. I
want to I want to get the seventy millimeter, that's
what I want. I wants to go. I think it's
worth a little extra drive. I don't care. I'll put
the money in the gasoline, you know, doesn't matter to me,
you know, you know, I love what the hell is
this stuff? So you got that going on, so it's
not like anyone can spoil the honesty. Yeah that I
think it's just the it's just Nolan though it's only Nolan,
because I don't care. People might say this is too
early for me to say at one point I thought
it was. But to me, Nolan's a goat. I still
be asking right now because the age. Yeah, I'll say
Martin Scrisse, but I honestly think Nolan's raised filmmaker all
the time. I don't think any other filmmaker you could
have done this with. That's not an ip. It's Nolan,
And it's just like everyone knows the honesty, everyone knows
the story, but it's because we don't know what Nolan's
gonna do with it, you know, just like his scope,
his vision, right, So it's it's very interesting. But yeah,
would you worry that this becomes a trend?
Speaker 2: I do worry, But you know, at the same time,
there are moments where you know, movies coming out and
I want nothing but just to get those tickets, Like
if Madeler and Grogu were to put up ticket sales tomorrow,
I'd be buying them day one. Avatar three, I'd be
buying them day one. So there are things, But of
answer you just said, I thought it is. So I'm again,
I'm I'm a I am situational on it again.
Speaker 1: You can just refund your tickets. It's like you don't
got to take a plane ride. You don't like you
would know two weeks before that trip, like, oh, I
can't go to Vancouver. I'm just gonna refund that seat.
Speaker 2: What I was gonna have to go to the theater
to refund that ticket.
Speaker 1: It's not two thousand and five, it's Cineplex. You can
just send an email like, Okay, here's your fun back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's your money two weeks later. Jeez, it's brutal.
But you do make a good point.
Speaker 1: It's brutal. Well, you know it could be brutal. Let's
see here, I will save maybe we'll come back to
what we've been watching. Maybe maybe we'll save that for
I don't know when we're gonna do it. We just
got a lot of stuff. We'll quickly. We're okay, so yeah,
we're gon talk about a fantastic for predictions. We're gonna
talk about DCU updates. So that's one one fast tracked
Superman A Box Office having a killer week this week,
and then some Batman two news and then some trailers. Taylor,
give me a quick fire of what you've been watching
and then we'll get into our main topic here.
Speaker 2: Quick fire, Yeah, just catching up on some of the
nineteen eighty four retro stuff and then uh, the other
thing that we've heavily been binging on because it's been
nice having the past couple of days off from the podcasting.
So Madison started well, I started on the weekend nineteen
twenty three, and then I did two episodes and then
Madison watched one of them with me when I was
watching out in the living room, and she's like, Okay,
we're gonna watch this together, and so we were now
on the one with her, so one with Harrison Ford.
Suff He's so fucking good in that show. The show
is so much better than Yellowstone. I really like Yellowstone,
even though it did fall a partner the end, but
I love that This is Design is just like a
season one and season two limited series. This is It,
and then after this will probably jump onto eighteen eighty eight,
and I learned that they're doing a nineteen forty four
after which we'll have some characters in nineteen twenty three.
But nineteen twenty three, Oh, it's such a good fucking story.
Like you feel ashamed and the other thing too, you do.
It's just the stuff. The stuff that they go through
is brutal, but nothing compares to just the discomfort of
seeing these Native Americans going through i should say, Indigenous
individuals going through like the residential schools and how they're
just being treated that I've never seen any show or
any movie. I know they exist, but it just that
have popped up them too, my radar that I've seen
on TV or whatnot, with these kind of depictions of
just how it goes on. And you know, you hearing
it is one thing, and talking about it is one thing.
But in the show and actually visually seeing it, and
I'm a very visual person, it is so difficult to
watch and you get so fucking angry at just the
ship these people doing back then. God damn, Like it's
just it's just horrible, and they don't give these these individuals,
like there's not much of like a happy like turnaround.
Because I mean, at least so far where I'm at
in the show, it just feels like, you know, they
just get walked on and walked and walked on it.
It's just it's just horrible. It's just horrible. So it
could be. It can be pretty pretty brutal to watch,
but they just I I'm glad it's in there because
I think it's like for me, it's it does a
great job at creating that awareness and just giving you
like a visual representation like, hey, this is it is
extremely shitty. This is really really shitty, and just like
look at it, look what happens. So uh yeah, but again,
the show is just fantastic. It's a great show. I
think it's really really well written, and the characters are
just top tier, top notch, and I like that it
has little ties into the main Yellowstone show. And yeah,
I'm I'm not going to stop recommending it. It's just
an amazing show, was it? So you're watching them? I
think that's all I'm watching right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine that you can speak on Yeah, so
I can. I can speak about it. I see my
good down there saying that I'm teasing with the Wicked review.
That's what we want. So I'm gonna wait for a
couple of weeks to talk about that, no idea, because
I was I got a whole different story talk about.
But at one point it was just me and the
older girls in Valerie, and you know, so we had
to watch something. I had to just put some on
just keep them busy while eyes doing other stuff. But
I just need to cool down moment. So like, okay,
and many times the girls asked to watch Wicked, but
it is two and a half hours, so that's not
like an easy put on because it's just like one.
Sometimes we don't want them in front of the TV
that long. And then too, it's like lots of times
when we usually let them watch stuff, it's four bedtimes.
Just get them settled in, you know, they've showered, done something.
I say, okay, watch the show, you know, then we'll
go restorying them bedtime. Right. So that's where, okay, we
had the day to ourselves. So okay, we're gonna watch Wicked.
And I said I wanted to give the full monty
because last time I watched it, I will say I
got longer than fifteen I thought it was fifteen minutes.
I was more like twenty five to thirty minutes in there,
and I watched it, and no, I enjoyed it more
than I thought, But I don't I still don't, you know,
I didn't have the religious experience tailored it where he walked,
he was like, oh five, and if not that, you know,
like I there's stuff like I like Jonathan Bailey in
the movie as an actor, but I don't like the
subplot of the Oh you know, I'm like the love
triangle sort of bit like that. All that stuff to me,
I checked out. I loved all the stuff with the
Alpha BA and Glinda. Thought that was all good stuff.
There is a bit much singing for me in that.
I'm not a musical guy, and there's a few musicals
that I love, So I guess I just didn't love
every song in there. But I thought there was some
great stuff and there there's some great character stuff as
far as like we like treating people well in that
meaning And I actually think that scene when Alpha ba
but do they call her wicked? And Glinda and is
that what I you said, Alpha? I said, Alpha Bah. Okay,
I never know because I mem on Gwen and call
her alphabet all the time. But Alphaba, like when she's
dancing and Glinda joins her, like that's a really good
scene and everyone's right, like I had woke up like
in the last two minutes, but like the defying gravity
spot like tremendous, Like it's a great set piece, great
bill up, everything like that. I'm not even saying this
well a little bit of a negative way, and people
have said, oh, maybe in part two, so wait and see.
I don't. I don't think the movie sells me a
good enough job of why Glinda turns her back on Alphaba.
I'm not spoiling anything. Wickeds two's out in a couple
more months, you know, so like if you haven't seen it,
I don't know. But like I didn't buy that, So
I just maybe hate Eric Grande's character because it's just
she just kind of joins it, like yeah, I mean,
I call my friend a murderous witch and call her
Wicket and we'll go there. And I've seen the idea
of like, well she's she's you know, working the system
from the inside. But as far as I know know,
everything so happens the way it does and all of
the just ends up dead. So I don't know how
well from the inside. She's working. If her best friend
ends up dead and everyone brands were rich, I'll digress.
So I think that's some stuff that could help. But
I liked all this stuff, the animal quality, so no,
I enjoyed it. It's something that if the girls were
to put I would any day watch that over Like
when we watched Minecraft that was brutal or I don't
know if it's gonna be brutal. We talked about this
some Weekly Geek, but like seeing that trailer for can Hat,
that to me looks like that's gonna be a brutal one.
You know, Like there's a couple of ones where if
they want Wicked still long. There was a time where
literally I've paused the two hour mark. I'm like, it's
gotta be over now, and I was like half an hour.
Speaker 2: Like a Smurfs fans.
Speaker 1: What I don't think they are. If they've seen a
Smurf they must have not liked it because they haven't
talked about them. Like I want to watch more Smurfs
than everything. So and I'm not taking the Smurfs absolutely
not that out of the question. So we're still gonna
try and see eli Oh next week. Come hoping before
that goes out of theaters because we were supposed to
next week or last week, but things got to messed
around stuff. So yeah, I yeah, no, Mike, I enjoyed it.
I but same thing again. If Tama is fighting for
any like Golden Geeks, I maybe would have gave maybe
just Alphaba and Glinda some acting noms. But that's about
it because I am with some other people. More visually,
I think sometimes that movie it looks kind of ugly.
It looks it just looks commercially at times and not
and like a good like a big commercial. She's like,
just it's very bright and just the colors are a
little off for me. And you know, music wasn't it.
I didn't love it, but there's there's some good stuff
in there. So yeah, But I also I'm not gonna
go we'll see. I will not see the second one
theaters unless I have to, because my mom saw it
with them and she's like, I can't do that again.
And she was excited to see Wicked and then after
we I can't sit there for that long. So my
sister very much into it, so she wants to take
the kids, great, and I'll watch it home if not,
I will as a good father. That's one that I
will go watch you with. There's a few that I won't,
like the live action Disney ones. I've said, hey again,
Luckily my family will take them if they really want
to see something, I will, but I'll try and avoid
that stuff. So if they really want to, I will go,
because you know, there's only a small finite time until
they're passionate about this stuff, until they get cynical like
the rest of us.
Speaker 2: So I think your mum owes you, you know, after
buying you that pool to take your kids to.
Speaker 1: That's a cool that's a whole rant. Yeah, easy ball. Whatever.
Let's see what else have I watched recently. I rewatched
Once upon a Time in Hollywood, which Taylor, You've still
never seen, but having a fantastic movie that's like Barbie
or Top Gun, just like Summer Vibes, just Summer Vibes
album's fantastic. I have watched Ironheart, but I'm gonna wait
till uh, maybe on Tuesday, because I think what we
I don't know. I have no idea what we're doing Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I really did because this was you be one episode.
Speaker 1: You one episode in like weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Nineteen twenty three came down. I was like, oh, sorry, Ruy,
I'm I'm here with Harrison Ford.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait until I talked about because
I think there were doing a Weekly Geek on Tuesday,
and I saved some more Marvel rumors for that and
that will go into Ironheart stuff, So we'll talk about that.
I'll just say it was fine. I'll say it's like
ranked in the bottom ten, but it's not a fail.
So that's kind of my general quick thoughts of I
think it's very you know, lower tier Marvel, but you
know Domini's grade, there's much Son's grade in there. Yeah,
not much we want. We rewatched the Original Spider Man,
which I kind of forgot that they're coming back to
theaters in September, so it's like, oh, we shouldn't watch it.
But we were just trying to pick a movie. And
Ellie's huge into Spidey and Friends, you know, the thing
on Disney Plus. Yeah, she loves that show. So like
now she's all in the Spider Man and they love that.
So oh no, I talked about that, lady, right, I
talked about the web thing. Yeah, no, that's about it.
There so and anything else the same thing like you
have talked about. It's give me for nineteen ninety four,
Golden geek. So let's take our go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'll just say, have you watched that Young Jedi show
that they have on Disney Plus it's like the.
Speaker 1: Did they didn't? They didn't jump to as much as
I wanted. I should God give another go, especially for Ellie.
I think the problem for Logan and Gwen it was
like a bit too kitty now, like the age they
were at. So I should try with Ellie and the
twins also when they get older and see. So I'll
try it again. And it's a it's a fun, little
cute kid show, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well like you obviously, Well, when the teen was
was very very little, I could, you know, I could
watch all these different Star Wars things and whatnot. It
was fine, and Madison didn't care for too much. But
now it was the teen being much more cognitive and
talking and everything and beautiful. Oh I gotta be careful.
And yeah, so we're watching Phanom Menace and Darth Maul
got sliced in half and whatnot, and the teen's just
watching it and Madison gave me some grief and I
felt kind of bad. So I put on I put
on the Jedi Padawans or whatever Young Jedi tonight.
Speaker 1: So the teen seemed.
Speaker 2: Pretty on on board, like excited, and I was like
watching it and engaging with it, but at the same time,
like I don't know, I feel like, yeah, you gotta
get We watched all of Mendo season three together. I
just want to get her back on those Mando shows
and watch the live action stuff because it's just so
much better. But again, she's a kid, and I don't
want to make her, uh, you know, not be receptive
to violence. I don't want to be dulled the sense
is dulled or anything like that, so which apparently can happen.
Speaker 1: But you messin' have fun, you guys figure that out.
I just took Logan was I guess she's all our five,
but she just you know all or no, she's uh yeah,
she's five now. A couple months ago just watching Anakin
and get burned up on the big screen, you know.
Speaker 2: So see that's how we were raised. You know, we
had this stuff happen.
Speaker 1: So I'm doing so uh but yeah, we'll take our
first at break and then well get our topics. We're
gonna start with some Fantastic four so we'll be right
back and we are back, so go up all the way.
Kevin Davis, thanks for joining us again, and thanks everybody
joining us on Tuesday being curriculum and the Fiery Chat. So yeah,
if you have anything about our topics, anything else, throw
them in there. It was a fun time and we're
gonna talk about some bunch of stuff here right now.
But Kevin Daves to start us off, We're gonna do
Fantastic four predictions, so we're gonna have a box office
or excitement, the movie chat, GPTs and men, credit stuff,
et cetera. But Kim News says, Fantastic four First Steps.
I man, I completely forgot that's the title. I forgot
that it's first step.
Speaker 2: Forgot the first steps too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, until days's calling here, Fantastic four First Steps have
nothing to prove it all Marble Steels will bounce back
with Avengers, Doomsday and Secret Wars. I don't know if
I have. I don't completely agree if you kept so,
I'm on a fifty to fifty with your statement. I agree,
no matter what happened, this movie can make two dollars,
and I think they will bounce back with Avengers Doomsday series.
It's funny the way that this episode we're talking about
dc I feel like these topics keep coming up, and
it's not bad. I think it's just because we're in
We're literally in the middle of DCU starting and MCU
trying to recover, and I feel like this comes up
because people have different takes, and now it's like same thing.
We couldn't talk about the DCU till we saw the
Superman success now right, And same thing with the Fantastic Four.
I agree in a few ways where no matter what,
Doomsday and Secret Wars, I think those are checkout Dynamic
Duo talk about it with them as well. I think,
no matter what, those are billion dollar movies, I think
could they could far in the win their billion dollars,
So I think money wise they will bounce back. But
you and me have been talking about this like just
like you know, just off cast whatnot. I've said this
before where I still think those have to be good,
though I said some dynamic deal that I think both
Doomsday and Secret Wars have to be like an eight
out of ten range for most people, even if it's seven.
If you have people leaving your big tier movies because
like the other stuff Thunderbolts, Captain Marvel, like the Marvel's
Captain America, they can go see it and go, Okay, well,
you know, I didn't really enjoy this whatever, And now
it's like maybe they won't go back to see Captain
America five, like the Marvels three or whatever. Right, but
with the Avengers and Spider Man two, they can't make
a really bad Tomholme movie. I know, sometheel like all
Far from Home is not good. Far from Home is
nowhere near a bad like it's it's my least favorite
of his trilogy. But it's like, that's not a bad
movie in my opinion, Like there is much much worse
combook Fair out there that is in a different tratsphere.
But to me, if they go see the big brand
movie they say that op Tier Ones and Avengers sucks
or is disappointing, That's where I don't think the bounce back.
They'll bounce back money wise, But then if people leave
disappointed from those two big movies, it will people start
to lose faith in the brand overall, and they will
the next time Avengers happens, I will not say it
will be a billion dollars. Same thing with X Men.
Maybe people go see because X Men, they might go
h this kind of Marvel stuff has been kind of shitty,
and that's where gun is in the perfect position. He
is the perfect position to strike like a fucking viper
and take over, because if he can make good stuff
and Marvel starts to trip on their big stuff, then
like it's not a matter of clay Face sucks. It'll
sure matter if Avengers seecret war sucks, you know. So
it's kind of a good thing right now that James
Gunn is just kind of rocking his his smaller stuff.
So I and the other part I disagree with that.
I'll throw you Taylor of and they have nothing to
prove at all, I think they do. I think to
me it's proving as far as Marvel would love this
to be a big hit, because if you have a
big hit at that four, that means you go out
Fantastic four two and like you gotta trilogy. You have
new characters that could bank and be your new Tony
or cap right, And the other thing I think it
has to prove is I hear talk about all time.
You know a friend of the show, William from Sci
Fi Center, when I was on vodka stream, he said
something that he considers them a tier, and he's like,
no Marvel character that's eight he has never made less
than seven hundred or seven hundred million, And I just said, like,
I don't think Fantastic Four are a tier. I think
for comic book readers, yes, they're the first family, very
important to the history of comic books of Marvel. But
like Tarry, when you think of characters like for the Ga,
do you think they Fantastic Four are considered a tier. No,
I don't. And we looked about this. Oh, I guess
it was me Kirkle, and we looked about this and
I didn't fucking too. We've been so busy. The streams
are all over my mind. But there's been no Fantastic
Four movie that I think has made more than three
hundred and fifty million. So it's not like, oh, Superman
was massive with Christopher Reeve, or oh, like Keatan's Batman
or Toby. It's like you could go back and even
after Superman took Returns bombed, you could say, yeah, but
those Christopher Reeve's movies are huge, and Henry Cavill had
a big Superman movie. You had the math and the
history to back you up. We're fantastic four. No movies
that have granted they weren't their greatest, but still nothing
over three point fifty That to me does not show
the audience cares for them. And we'll talk about some
of the specific tracking, but like it's tracking lower than
Superman opening weekend, it's tracking really bad in China. It's
pre sales, Like I guess we're talking about now, lots
of movies in China not doing good. Like Superman's pre
sales were twenty two thousand dollars. That's not great. But
then Fantastic for its pre sales are two thousand dollars
that's not good or two thousand and yen whatever it is, right,
Like that's that's that's real bad. That's in general in
China things American North American movies aren't doing good. But
I think they do have something to prove. I think
it is to prove hey is the Fantastic for uh,
doctor Strange a cat in America? Ironman? Or are they
a thunderbolt? Are Marvel? Right? Like are they next eight
tier brand that now when they do a soft reboot,
they go, hey, we got the F four with us,
or is it all like I don't. I don't know
if we're ever gonna go to Thunderbolts too, because Thunderbolts
one didn't do that well, right, So that's where I
agree and disagree where I think they will bounce back.
But I do think the F fur is something to prove.
But what do you feel, Taylor as far as like
F four doing well?
Speaker 2: Like do that was two thousand dollars in their like
native currency.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming because let's say that and that was China.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two thousand Chinese one is two hundred and seventy
eight American dollars.
Speaker 1: That's not okay, then it's two kr money. It's definitely yeah,
box that's that's a wolf. That was a wolf.
Speaker 2: So was that first Fantastic More movie for a movie
that we read showed? Was that released publicly or was
that one of the ones that they asked.
Speaker 1: That was one of the ones they act and stuff?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, so very rough go at it with this,
you know, Fantastic four. I think borstick that really didn't
didn't pay off. I feel and this is just me
being my own humble opinion. I don't have any scientific
factual information to back this up. I feel like people
are more excited for when Read Richards appeared in Doctor
Strange Multiverse of Madness than here. And I'm not saying
that people don't like Pedro in the Family. I think
everyone loves these actors and Vanessa Kirby, they are coming
to this movie. But I think just the excitement of
the character appearing in Doctor Strange was a lot more hyphen.
Speaker 1: Advertising.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't know what it is like this movie.
I am excited for it. As I said, when me
and Dylan did that last Weekly Geek together, that next
Traders that they put out had me totally jazzed. I
got off my rocker for it, and Silver Surfer absolutely
terrified me, totally freaky with that speech. But I think
that I really do appreciate how this movie feels like
it's just God It's own aesthetic. It feels very colorful,
it feels like it's its own bubble, it's own world
that it's created. It feels very different, And I don't
know if everyone else is going to be as receptive
as that, or as I am with that, and going
to be on board with it in the overall scheme
of things, especially after Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1: I think we all like it. I enjoy the aesthetic,
but I don't know the aesthetic of Like I know
it's like, uh, what's that term? Like, uh like old
futuristic or I can't remember there's a term. Some of
the chat tell it's like when it's like you have
sci fi futuristic stuff, Oh, like retro futuristic. Yeah, like
there's a whole term. Someone knows the actual genre, let
me know. But I don't know if retro futurism is
it retrofuturism? Okay, I don't know if the general audience
loves that, Like I don't know if the people this,
like the younger people as upset Raizy did it so
Spob is still the guy in the chair. I don't
know if people that aren't combook nerds are like, oh,
that looks cool, like a different type of sixties like
I think unfortunately, the the generation below us maybe like, ah,
that looks kind of like old stuff, Like I don't
want to see, Like I don't care about that, like
there's no nostalgia for in a sense. So I don't know,
and yet I don't. I don't know what the hype is.
I used your friend as a reference when we saw
on Weekly Geek, when we saw Superman, when he said, oh,
he's going to just see that streaming, and I think
there's a lot of people that are gonna do that
F four because I just I think the problem with
F four as well, because then some people brought this
up with Thunderbolts. I feel like it has set up
movie written all over it. That's I think the issue
where I'm hoping to fall in love with the characters.
I will say that there was that second trailer. I
haven't seen that last one that you and didn't talk about.
The second trailer did get me more excited and I
was in, but I've gone way more less excited. Like
what would you say, like, not what do you think
the movie can be? But out of a ten, what
do you think your excitement's at? Right now?
Speaker 2: I'm at I'm out of seven, but.
Speaker 1: I'm that's lower than I thought.
Speaker 2: I'm out of seven because I feel like so hearing
all the rumors about just things being cut and then
acting Akovich by like John Malcovitch's character, it's just completely
removed altogether. And that's just kind of iffy to me.
And I'm more, to be honest, I'm a ten out
of ten on the setup. You know, when we get
to the end and it's gonna show us like how
this is gonna tie off, because what I like thunderbolts
a lot, But we got to that post credit scene
that just like totally shot my excitement up, Like, Okay,
now we're we're getting somewhere. Now, this is like a
cut scene that's paying off and building this interconnected universe
which you've not had in so fucking long. So I'm
excited for that mostly when it comes to this movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, like you said, the John Malkovich thing,
that getting cut to me, I a runtime shouldn't matter
because like, hey, look at our movie. Our movie's like
forty nine minutes, right, But that's a very different situation
where our first movie is like it's true characters and
it's like a send the woods and it's just that's it, right,
We're not setting up this and that, but it's like
f four, all these villains glacked as Franklin Richards and
then a way to back door into the MCU. It's
like like an hour fifty five, it's under two hours.
Like to me, I am concerned, especially because there's so
many movies that we've heard from Marvel where it has
been it is that two hour mark just above or
just blow or just on it, and then when you
see him, it's been oh, like we could use a
little more, and even like for like you guys liked
more than me. But I think we all agree Superman
we could have used more of that, right, like we
I think we all agree that if Superman was a
bit longer, the movie probably could have been even better.
And the question is like, are they cutting stuff because
it's just they feel this doesn't make sense? Are they
cutting stuff because they want to get in as many
theaters as possible because like the shorter movie you're, the
shorter your movie is, the more theaters you're can film.
I don't know, but that doesn't matter to me. If
it's a bad movie or like a men movie, if
it comes out it's a men movie, it doesn't matter
how short it is. People aren't gonna go pay and
see it. So yeah, Malk Fitch was out there. That's
where it's just like that's gone. And that's where I
keep referring to this and I hope it's you know correct,
I talk one weekly Geek and Dynamic duo this idea
and if he can stick to and he's not lying
of James Gunn saying, hey, they don't want to go
into production or anything till there's like a fully script.
Like to me, if that can happen, that's some of
the best things ever because like you, they John Alcovich
can't be cheap, so they they paid they got him,
They paid him just to cut him like what And
they've done this a few times or change.
Speaker 2: Up some adventures right in the endgame with IRONHEARTZ or
Iron Men's daughter they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think she was getting a big paycheck,
right but still like or even stuff like John Carlos
as positive was not in Captain America when they shot
the first time and then they rewrote up. We knew
we need a character. Oh it's got John Carlo and
I'm sure you didn't he was she be this. That's
the thing's just like it's tough because the MCU was
built on Iron Man did not have a finished script
and it was shooting and changing all the time, and
that movie worked big time. So I think they think
every time that could work. But clearly I think they've
ran into a few more times than not recently where
it's not working. So stuff like John Malkovich, a great
actor who probably wasn't cheap, should not just be getting cut,
you know like that that feels odd. That feels like
if they because he's I think he's playing the Red Ghost,
that'd be differently. Ah, we just got a character actor.
You know, it didn't cost us much. Yeah, cut this,
you know it doesn't really work. But you went out
to go get a great actor who, you know, I
would imagine, you know, hopefully did good the role. I
don't know. And that's where it's just like I'm more worried.
I'm at like a sixth for my excitement. Granted I'm
not a big Fantastic four fan, so you know, bear
with me there, but I just in general, I just
worry it's going to be a very safe set up movie.
And I think that even though Superman, I think there's
some aspects of Superman that are safe, like the general plot,
like it's a classic character story, but then I think
there's some character and real world stuff in there that's
not safe. We're F four. I don't think it's gonna
have really any of that stuff. I think it's gonna
be very some of the first Captain America, which people like.
I'm not saying that, but I just think it's not
going to take leave some bounds. And I'm glad Mike
pointed this out couple days ago, where I think we're
very much in the position where for the first time
since eight, DC could beat Marvel, which is kind of crazy.
I thought it had happened before, but it hasn't since
The Dark Night, and they've you know, they're gonna beat Thunderbolts, Superman,
They're gonna beat Captain America, and I think they're gonna
they're gonna beat Fantastic four because my rankings. I think
I might be wrong. We're gonna see. But I remember
for my summer was uh Superman or it was Draft,
or was Superman, Jurassic and F four, And I think
Draft is gonna be on top, but I think you
you were that order, but you had uh Superman on
top of it or at the bottom, which I don't
think is gonna happen anymore now, because right now we
got the track and it's not a big difference, right
but right now the tracking, the final tracking for uh
F foors open up as one hundred two one hundred
and ten million. So let's say it opened at the
top of that tracking, it would be about fifteen million
less than Superman, which again not a huge leap and balley,
Oh my god, but it's still that they're they're losing
to that. So where do you feel it's gonna ring?
Now we got this tracking, and now we got you know,
some of the stuff coming out. We've seen how Superman's done.
What do you think it's gonna be opening weekend? You
need to win here because you were you're wrong about
Jurassic World. I got that one right, and then Kirkling
got the Superman one right. So where are you on
a F four? What do you think your opening weekend
is gonna be?
Speaker 2: Ooh, I think it's gonna do hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yay,
i'ld say one oh five. I think it's to come
out this late. I mean if Jurassic World did not
have that four day weekend, it would be a very
different conversation. Yes, Superman being a week right after, Yeah,
it's good. I think it's better that it was spaced
out from To go up against the Dinosaur movie is
okay because Dinosaurs is not superheroes, but to space it
out a week away from Fantastic four, that's not the
greatest thing. So I think it's good that they're two
weeks apart. I think that's really good. And word of
mouth too. I think people when this comes out Fantastic four,
people are still gonna be thinking, like, oh, you know,
I'm only seeing one super Bowl movie. I'm gonna go
see the new Superman. You see, I haven't seen Superman
in a while, but we've always seen lots of Marvel stuff,
or oh, I'm gonna go see a dinosaurs, you know,
take the kids to see that. So I think it's
still gonna be a battle between not really a battle,
but Superman or Jurassic World. Not to say people aren't
gonna go see Fantastic four. I mean there's definitely gonna
be the Marvel fans that do go to it. But
I don't think it's just it's not doesn't have that
oomph anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the original three day for Jurassic World was
only eighty two million, which a couple of others did
do I think some holidays, but still eighty two. And
that's where I think. I was like, at like a
nine or something like that, I said it was gonna
crack one hundred, and I think I'm with you on.
I think there's a chance cause I think Captain America
w I think that opened to like ninety I'm spitballing here,
but I think it's like ninety five, and then Thunderbolts
was seventy eight. So I think that it will beat
those two for sure. I think there's always a chance
it could come under the initial tracking. But I'm gonna
say like one oh five. That's that's a good one.
So I feel like, oh dude, I go higher or lower,
like I'm pretty much in that ballpark. I'm gonna take
the I'm gonna take the over just to be a
little I don't know, because I was gonna say like
one thirteen. But even that, I feel like I'm not
because that's over expectation. I mean to go one oh eight.
I'm gonna go a little a little above you, but
I think could be lower. And then yeah, what do
you think for overall details saying I think it makes
five to fifty super Bad Mic says, I think, yeah, yeah,
I think it makes five hundred mil. What do you think.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna make between four hundred and fifty
to five hundred. I don't think it's gonna crack the
fought well, uh because Durrassic World right now, I think
it was like five for four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty two. Yeah, so but that's a big international movie.
We don't know how f Force can be international yet obviously, right, Yeah,
that's Man struggling Superman. Literally we'll talk about later, but
it's the next domestic boss. Office is going very well.
It's just international markets. It's having some some issues lagging behind.
Speaker 2: And Thunderbolts gross worldwide three eighty two. So I'm gonna
say that, yeah, this will be I'm gonna say four fifty.
Speaker 1: Jeez, will be four fifty. I think it because if
Captain America, I think that got to like what four
twenty five or whatever something like that. I think that, yeah,
are you searching what Capta America did overall?
Speaker 2: Four fifteen four fifteen.
Speaker 1: I feel confident unless I'll put the the asterix on
it unless f four reviews really terribly, like really bad.
I think it's gonna make five hundred, but I think
it'll be like five oh two, five oh three, like
five nine. Like I think it's gonna be just just
over it, But I do think Superman. Do you think
Superman's gonna be it? Now? I think so? Uh it,
Mike says, do you guys think the plot looking so
close to Rise Silver Surfer and the trays could hurt it? Yeah?
I don't know if it's gonna hurt it, but I
just I think I don't think.
Speaker 2: The GA remembers that movie. To be honest, there.
Speaker 1: Is that, but I just feel like if they do,
they might feel like, oh, they're just remaking that movie
and they go, oh, I don't need to see I
don't need to see that, you know, like I don't.
I don't like, I don't need to see that Redone again.
You know, it's not like a classic movie that is
being remade. It's like, yeah, Rise of Silver Surfer, but
I think in the sense that it looks somewhat generic
and that's what you know, it doesn't help it. And again,
if you are in tune to it, we kind of
know how this movie's gonna end already, right, So I
think it does a little bit. But Taylor, you.
Speaker 2: Don't, No, I think I think that who remembers that movie?
I mean only I feel like a handful of people
remember it. I remember it because I really really enjoy
that one. You get Doom on the surf, silver Surfer's board,
you get some other crazy shit in there too. It's
it's awesome. But I don't think the GA is familiar
with which I haven't.
Speaker 1: Sad because we're waiting to our top ten. But because
we haven't talked about this, I've said this so big
maybe there are. I don't know if I did it
all bit, if I didn't, it's worth repeating big Shadow
and arrest in peace to Julian McMahon, because man, that
is oh yeah, yeah. He passed away last week cancer,
fifty six again, fifty six, very young age. When I
did that math, I'm like, man, I am twenty four
years away from that. That's crazy when you think, like, oh,
twenty four years and you would pass away like one,
enjoy your life, but two such a very underrated actor.
Nip Tack's one of my favorite shows, and I actually
thought he would have been a great doom given the
right situation. I'm very excited to watch the surf. I
think it's my plans hopefully next week is after my
dun com play through to watch the surfer with him
in nick cage because I heard it was great and
such a shame he as having like a comeback. So yeah,
big shout out to him. I love Julian Mann, that one.
That one really hurts the shout out to you know,
he got to be that doom on that surfboard. So
a couple of comments that I missed here, SuperM Mic says, yeah,
no post endgame MSCU movie has a direct sequel yet
when you think about it, and that's what I mean,
like F four is something to proved. F four has
to show like are we are we part of that
top dog tier or are we the experimental post COVID
brighter shrike. Like it didn't really work. Let's not do
this because like people love Sung Chi, but there's still
no Sung Cheat on the books. They say they're making it,
but like this has been a long wait, right, so
we'll see what happens there. Let's see super Mi Mike says,
I'm hearing or sorry, sub says, I'm hearing good things
about Superman, but I still think Superman be maybe meant
to four right, hearing good things about because you said
I'm hearing good things though Superman. You've seen Superman sbubs.
I know this, so, but I was gonna say, uh,
let's see what. I still think Superman beats fantastic for
right now, DC is hot, MCU is not, I will say,
I will let's throw that out there. Yeah, yeah, I
knew you meant have four. OK. I think Superman is hot,
MSU is not. I think if it's DCU, we have
to see because you get it's pretty much not confirmed.
But it sounds like Lantern's early January, right or early
I'll just say Q one, uh, peace Maker the good
thing for it. There's multiple characters I forgot, like otis
from Superman is supposedly and that like some people said,
it's gonna act as a semi squel Superman. We have
to see Peacemaker. But I trust them, even though James
is not heading all that. I trust that to be good.
I hope Lanterns is good. So to me, I can't
say it's hot or not yet because the problem is
next year you got the two movies. It's Superhirl and
clay Face versus Spiderman for and Avengers Doomsday. It's very
much like the MCU is back, the mc is dead,
or I suppose, as we do in the gimmick, like
one week AW is the best company and then the
next week WS the best company. Right, So and yeah,
I agree, Peacemaker season one was big, and that's just
the question of ken season to be big. And that's
what I'm saying. I think it will be or be
a hit. So you have Superman and Peacemaker. I think
I think Lantern's I trust him again that to be
a hit as that's on HBO. From what I've seen
with Supergirl, I think that's going to work. Clayface, I
think that's a that's a fifty to fifty because at
least Greg Gilepsi he's had, like I fucking love Itania,
Like you tell me the guy that made Itonians being
a Supergirl were in the clear. The guy making Clayface, Eh, Like,
I don't have the most confidence in that. So it's
very tough. But that's where, like I said, if spier
Man four and Endgay or Sorry Doomsday or mediocre, then
you'll really have the dcu's hot and the MCU is
not especoally as that's always take on tour to talk
about Peacemaker and details us. Thanks for recommendation. Recommending Collateral,
Travis thought it was fantastic. Yeah, man, because that's on
your watch, was still right, Taylor? Collateral? It is? Yeah,
Oh I it's been on my Netflix. I got on
my Netflix list right now and want to watch again soon.
But yeah, I love that movie. That's the that's the
type of that's a Travis movie right there, like a
semi character study. It's two characters in the location. Again,
hence the first movie made like even the second movie, Like,
I like those contained stories. And yeah, Tom Cruise to
me his best role. So let's see, we're kind of
all over. But fantas for a predictions. So we did
the box office? What do you this is something like,
I feel like we know what's gonna in my opinion,
happened where Okay, we're gonna I feel like I can
tell you act one, two and three. Act one is
we established the F four as a family. Sue's pregnant,
you know, Mazeltov. Act two the threats are here Colactus
Silver Surfer Act three. They do some stuff they don't
get to save their universe Plant Mape style, they find
a way out and they end up in the MCU. Well,
am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I think you're right, But I was kind of thinking
of proposing and alternate. But I don't want to say
because it might be spoiler rific if you haven't seen
the latest, like cut scene that they showed from the movie.
Speaker 1: I like, are you talking about what Galactus wants?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Say that because I know that, but I don't know
if anyone's seen that.
Speaker 2: I won't say what it is, but I'll say that
I think what Galactus wants they jump universes obviously we know,
or they leave and then their universe doesn't get destroyed
because Glactus is really following them to get what he wants.
Speaker 1: The only reason I think Glactus is gonna get destroyed, well,
I don't know about destroy but I think he's gonna
be gone for a while is I don't like when
they're gonna deal. I don't think you're gonna deal Galactus
and Doomsday.
Speaker 2: No, but I think they're gonna keep him on the
back burner and I feel like this is their way
of like calling his bluff, like, well, I'm gonna just
either give me what I want or I destroy your planet.
And I think that's when they're like, Okay, well we're
just gonna like what off?
Speaker 1: Then yeah they're gonna destroy it.
Speaker 2: Well yeah that would be pretty shitty. But I I
feel like they'll they'll call his bluff and they'll take
what he wants, and then he's gonna be like, ah,
you know, fucking find them.
Speaker 1: I do like now with that context when we had
that clip of Reid being like, they're like, can you
save us? And he's like, I don't know, and it's like, well, yeah,
you're really I don't know. I think you're really kind
of screwed now, So but yeah, I I don't know.
I hope that we get enough time with the family,
very much like Superman, right, some great loas and clutter stuff.
I think we got some good scenes with them, but
we'll like to more. I hope that's not how we're
leaving F four where it's like, oh, I really like
them together, but we didn't have enough time to sit
with them for a while. I know it's a tough thing,
but again, just make the movie longer, in my opinion,
like I want. I think the thing at least what
I'm excited about is all the acting wise, I'm very excited.
I've been on the bandwagon that I still think Pedro
will be great because I think all the things read
Richard's is whether he is the loving husband, whether he
is the the deadbeat husband, as far as not like
walking out of his way, but just like he's not around,
he's too focused on his projects, on the world whatever,
the good father, the guy who's too busy again to
do stuff, the friend, but also the guy that doesn't
know his boundaries because he's just a very smart guy
who you know sometimes is almost on the spectrum with
how smart he is, and he doesn't understand people's emotions
like they're kind of some Doctor manhattanisms. He can, you know,
be charming, but he can be a complete asshole. This
is a guy that can lead fantastic for maybe in
the Avengers, but another Multiverses is a villain. I think
Pedro can do that. I like Evan boss backron I,
Joseph Quinn. I think is going to be good. I
think my only worry about him is writing. I know
him Like one of the latest TV spots, they showed
him like flirting with some ladies, which I think is
good because I remember he said something like, oh, like,
I don't think now Johnny has to be a womanizer.
It's like, like, like, I like, I think there, I
don't know. That's a whole longer conversation. I think you
can have both men and women in the world be
you know, quote unquote whoor sleep around as long as
it's just like consensual and that's their lifestyle. That's something
that I think we've gone too far. If like, oh man,
a man fucking a lot of women. Oh man, a
woman fucking a lot of guys. Know, you're like, what
are we the sixties? You're supposed to meet someone you're
in you're sixteen and then marry up. It's like that
that to me, that's not like a in the world
the culture that's changed. That's not something where I go,
oh yeah, maybe like with the man on right, with
that character. There's lots of things they change because like
this isn't politically correct anymore. We're gonna swap some stuff,
make it a bit more palpable. Johnny being a ladies man.
I don't know like and don't mean it wrong. I'm
sure there's some callings back in the sixties where he
probably slapped a girl in the bum. I was like, hey,
good looking, Yeah, that's assault. Now I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying to me, like a womanizer is something
that just sleeps around. It's like, you know, maybe he
doesn't have the greatest relationship with women, but it's not
that he's like a terrible person, and that could be
as many arc So we'll see. And then I've said
before Vanessa Kurr he was my pick for U Susstorm,
my fan cast that happened. And I love Julia Gardner.
I don't know how she's gonna do Silver Surfer, don't
know how much they're gonna give her, but I'm a
massive I've been a fan of first since The American
She's my female version of Glenn Powell, where for years
I was talking about this girl and fine, she blew up.
So I'm excited to see what they do as the characters.
I just hope they get enough time to build the relationships,
you know, mm hmmm. So we'll see what happens there
s bubs or sorry, says, yeah, I don't think they'll
have the guts to destroy the universe. I think they're
I think they're gonna But Mike doesn't worry you. You
don't think they're gonna either.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought initially, like your your pitch for you
said they will. I was kind of on board with it.
But I think I think Disney's gonna do the the
safe route to like I proposed, where the Galactus is
gonna be like, oh, I you know, you got what
I want, and I'll dostic four is gonna go and
so yeah, he's not gonna he's not gonna pull the
trigger and shoot play at Earth.
Speaker 1: But it's he is Shoe Planet. It's in their multiverse.
If they're coming to the msume and it's not they're
not coming from a different planet. They're coming from a
different universe.
Speaker 2: They are, And I think that's where they think they're safe.
And I think maybe it'll take Galactus a little bit
of time to get there, because again, he's not gonna
be there right away. Yeah, unless you just get Doom
and Galactus teaming up in the next movie, which would
be fucking sweet.
Speaker 1: Then Doom gets his armor and he's all big and stuff.
But yeah, no, I uh, I think they're gonna do.
I think they're a pullatruer because I think they're gonna
try and be like, look, this is you know, we're
going for a big and I think the easy way
out is it's it's a universe we don't know, and
they've already stayed like, hey, there's no other superheroes in
this universe. It's a very easy universe to get rid
of by just saying, hey, Glack's gonna eat it up.
And that makes Galactus a bigger threat. So I guess
we'll see if they don't. I'm kind of disappointed by that.
Speaker 2: But is there one Galactus going universe universe or is
it one Galactus per universe eating planets?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the ladder because like he's an
eater of they always like the eater of world. It's
not the inner eater of universes, right, So it's like
there's many different planets. So I would assume that you
would escape and there would just be a Galactus. But
maybe he can. Maybe that's his thing where F four,
you know, goes to different universe and he figures out
even and F two or somewhere down the line, but
I don't know. I don't see them beating him, but
maybe they do just be him because the f Fours
beat Galactus many a time, right, So maybe I'm overthinking
me I'm thinking. But then I just go like, Okay,
how do they end up in the MCU if the
universe doesn't get destroyed or if they beat Galactus? I
don't know how they I'll say in the six one
six how do they get there? And that I don't know?
You know? So yeah, yeah, any other predictions to do
with the story, characters, appearances.
Speaker 2: Except I don't think so no.
Speaker 1: Trying to think. Okay, give me what you think, Uh,
what do you think some end credits would be get
some water.
Speaker 2: End credits?
Speaker 1: Say?
Speaker 2: I feel like you could see something that was maybe
like more of the Thunderbolts perspective, considering that they're they're
crossing over with their post credits scene, and maybe it'll
be vice versa. That being said, though, I mean, we
already know Robertuney juniors doctor Doom, so maybe you see
something like that. Ah, but where where would he be
coming from? And there's so much, there's so much to
talk about with Okay, is this like a guy that
looks like Robert Downy or looks like Tony Stark, And
so he's playing it off and he's he's Victor Ron
Doom or is he just like a very And I
don't know. There's so many different ways I could tackle it.
So I think that there's a possibility of a post
credits scene where you have the Fantastic Four coming into
our universe and then you see Robert Downey Junior sitting
in the chair watching the TV or something like that,
and he's like, oh, look at these guys. Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you think he's gonna be in awe, Like
when you say TV, do you mean they get a
multiverse like always watches or is he in.
Speaker 2: The that I don't know that. I don't know. I
don't I can't see him being in the six one,
sixth solely because we already have that same looking guy
who he was Tony Stark. So does he come from
another multiverse? Maybe he's like, oh, Galactus killed my you
know world too, so I came here and then he
sees the Fantastic Four, and maybe he tries to come
off as a friend or something like that. At first,
but he killed his Fantastic four in his universe.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say this, I was gonna say this
for Weekly Geek next week, but let's just talk about
now because there's still be enough news and everything, because
news has been flowing like gasoline and juice in the
streets right now. I've seen this theory, and I think
I talked about this with uh Kirkle in a Weekly Geek,
but I feel like now it was actually I think
it's actually a rumor. Now it's not as a theory,
and I like it a lot, but I don't the
theory was or the rumor was so skip ahead like
two minutes. We don't want to hear a potential doomsday
rumor from a sea Toier Scooper. But the rumor was that, yeah,
you know, let's just say downy he was gonna come
to six one six posing as Tony Stark or friendly
face to help, you know, get heroes people on his team,
and then the flip would happen, because that's the idea of, well,
how do the Avengers and X Men fight? Imagine if
he comes to six one sixteen, he say, say, there's
a big threat, there's a team on this planet, you know,
or on this universe. They are called the X Men.
They're killing people or they're killing whatever. I need your
help to take them out. And they see a Tony,
they see his face, they go, well, we must trust him.
And that's how he gets these characters to fight or
take each other out. I think that's great because to me,
that's the whole thing. When there's these rumors are like, oh,
you know, he looks exactly like Tony Stark, Are they
going to plane to that? And early on I was like, no,
it's just gonna be Doctor Joe was like, well, that's
pretty lame. Like to me, if you get a character
that looks like your most popular character, you should lean
into that. So how would you feel about that? If
that's the way he goes, If he kind of pretends
to be a friendly face with them, the twist happens.
Speaker 2: I mean it's similar to Mysterio, right, or Mysterio I
mean didn't have the recognizable face, but was trying to
woo and befriend Tom holland Spider Man, even to the
point where he put the glasses on so he would
look like Tony Stark, right, just to kind of like
he had the hair styled up and everything like that
just to kind of fool Tom Holland. So we have
seen that happen before, and this would just be literally
a solid like carbon copy of him just totally using
his thing for bad.
Speaker 1: So different as people that know that mysterio. Right, it
was like, oh the sky where this is like, oh, well,
we love Tony, you know he must be good. So yeah, yeah, Mike,
I like this one. Let's see heroic sacrifice to destroy Galactus,
but instead of dying in a big explosion, they end
up in another universe. Yeah, I can see that again.
At that point, I just like, just destroy the universe.
But I get it, detail, says Magnita, wiping the floor
with the New Avengers. I don't think so. I think
Magneto as a care character, sure, but hey, unfortunately, don't
think McNeill McKellen's gonna make it out of these movies.
I think I think that could be a big character
that Doom kills off. You know. Yeah, And are you
for percentage wise, are you one hundred percent that we're
seeing doom in this movie? The director said there's no
Doom in the movie, but remember Thunderbolts end credit was
shot by the Russos. Wasn't shot by what's his name,
Drake Schreiber. They shot that while on set. Added it in.
So I don't care what Matt Shackman says of Hey, hey,
you know there's no Doom. Stay here. It's like our
Doctor Doom. It's like, yeah, you're not you're not KF
you know you're you're not running the joint.
Speaker 2: So I'll say there's a ninety nine point nine percent chance.
The odds are extremely high, but I'm gonna say it's not. No,
nothing's one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm saying nothing's one hundred percent. Yeah, So you
couldn't say we're one hundred percent recording episode geek for
us right now? Oh yes you could. We're doing well. Yeah,
I'm gonna say it's one hundred percent, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna put this asterix on it. Though you will
see doctor Doom. I'm not saying for sure you would
see Downey. I think it would be smarter them to
make it that you see Downey, to get those people
excited and let people know, hey, he's on his way.
But I'm gonna say you just see uh, doctor doom
at least I'm not. I'm not clarified. I'm not going
on downy So all right, it's with chat GPT predictions
here or whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Fantastic four world's collide in the universe
parallel to the MCU. The Fantastic Four Read Richards, Sue Storm,
Johnny Storm, and Ben Grimm are all ready public heroes.
They gain their powers during a deep space mission that
exposed them to the incursion Veil, an unstable energy field
left behind after the collapse of the Sacred Timeline from
Loki season.
Speaker 1: One, Wow. Even though she's one kind of figure that out.
Speaker 2: Years later, Reid notices something terrifying. The stars are vanishing.
He calculates that their entire reality is collapsing. At the
center of this implosion is a devour of worlds Galactus,
who now feeds not just on planets but on entire timelines.
He is evolving or merging, but Read intercepts the strange
signal originating from outside their universe. It's a burst of
coded energy and old Stark tech frequencies, a call for
help from another world, the MCU timeline, but unflabel it
as the MCU, we do sometimes so I get it.
Read builds the multiversal quantum Drive into their spacecraft, the
Odyssey to escape, and he's directing the next next one
to escape and warn the next stable Reality. As they launch,
Galactus appears, sending his herald ter Ax to stop them.
The Fantastic Four narrowly escapes the collapsing rift, but terraxes
cosmic acts and beds in the ship. As they jump,
Their ship crash lands in the Wakandan Highlands, triggering massive
energy spikes. Excuse me. The wreckage is immediately investigated by Shuri,
now Quita Wakanda and one of the most advanced scientific
minds in the world. With her are the Midnight Angels
and Everett Ross, now back in Wakanda.
Speaker 1: Angels, those terrible outfits again.
Speaker 2: Shurry quickly realizes this team reeds to Johnny and Ben
isn't from their universe, Red trying to make sense of
the new world. It's astounded by Wakandan technology. He also
senses something dangerous in the ship, residual multiversal energy from Galactus. Meanwhile, Tara,
as thought to be destroyed in the jump, begins regenerating
deep under the Earth, drawing from viberanium veins and ancient
energies once worshiped by Wakandan ancestors. What did I say not,
Vibranium said, I might yawned again mid sentence. At the
same time, an unknown energy served pulses globally. In New York,
Doctor Strange notices a ripple in the mirror dimension. In Westview,
Billy Maximov wakes him a dream, drawing magical sigils in
his sleep.
Speaker 1: This is like Avengers two point or like a five
point zero or whatever.
Speaker 2: In Canada, a rugged man with claws feels a cosmic
tremor in space. Nick Fury detects gravitational anomalies near Earth's
moon because he's up on the space station right of course.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Back in Wakonda, Read bonds with Sureri two mind cycling
the greatest challenge of all stopping Galactus. They realize that
Galactus has mutated, feeding on the fabric of the multiverse itself.
He's approaching the MCU Earth, drawn by the fantastic Force
energy signature. But there's another twist. Victor von Doom, ruler
of the hidden nation of Latviia, reveals himself in this reality.
Doom has already been preparing for this incursion. Using ancient
Socobean magic, bibranium and scavenge Stark technology, Doom has built
a device to bend the multiverse to his will, and
he offers Read help, but demands access to their ship's
power corn return. Reid refuses, and Doom kidnaps Sue and
begins siphoning the energy himself, but the power is tainted
and infected by Galactus's essence. Meanwhile, Shuri and Johnny and
Ben lead a daring rescue mission into Lavaria with help
from Wong a slingering portal. They free Sue, but Doom,
corrupted by the cosmic energy, becomes a dark conduit momentarily
linked to Galactus himself. Galactus arrives not physically but as
a manifestation in the upper atmosphere, bending the sky and
shifting gravity. His voice echoes across minds, this world is
not yours. It was never meant to last. In the
climactic final battle, reading sure, he create a multiversal deflectori
using Wacanon tech and reads Core drive. Johnny goes nova,
pushing back Galactus Is Galacticus, Galactis manifestations Jesus.
Speaker 1: And this guy was like, I didn't say Vibranian wrong.
Speaker 2: Ben, in a moment of sacrifice, destroys Doom's unstable reactors,
seemingly vaporizing himself. Silver Energy Is sends the Silver Surfer,
freed from Galactus's control, helps Read open a gate to
redirect Galactus into an uninhabited, dying universe. Galactus retreats but
not defeated. He You've always becoming a new entity of
pure multiversial entropy. Ah the aftermath the Fantastic Four and
now stranded and the main MCU uh Read offers to
work with Shri and Bruce Banner. Sue visits Wakanda, Rwanda's
old cabin in search of Billy. Johnny bonds with Peter
Parker at a science fair. A vibranium statue of Ben
Graham is directed in Wakanda.
Speaker 1: So first Fantastic for Me movie, MZ. They're killing Ben.
Speaker 2: Grenov Yes, Silver Surfer stays behind the MCU. Charles Xavier
sends telepathic visions to Sue. America. Chavez shows up at
the ruins of the Riff Gate. Something else is coming
through and it's angry. Get a whole bunch of people there.
Post credits. We open on the shattered remains of a city,
buildings floating in space, gravity, warped colors, bleeding unnaturally. The
skyline looks vaguely like New York, but twisted, glitching in
and out of existence. Alone figure walks among the debris,
wearing a tattercloth cloak. Sorry, we see a robotic hand,
fractured but powerful. It's a Kang variant. We keep going
back to Kang, bleeding, limping, muttering equations to himself. Time
is folding. They're not fixing it, They're making it worse.
Speaker 1: GBD say who is playing Gang?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I will because I forgot. We used to ask it
who would direct some of the stuff, So after ask
who's playing King? I'm just curious?
Speaker 2: Okay. As he reaches a broken monument of Enger's Tower,
split in two, he pulls it a glowing orb filled
with flickering silhouettes of multiversel beings. One resembles a god,
another I mutant, one looks like doctor Doom. Suddenly a
portal opens behind him, violet, unstable, and a figure walks through, calmly,
silver boots, pale skin, no face of presence. The beyonder
is his name. You're too late, Kang. Your time is passed.
Now comes the age of judgment. You Kang raises a
weapon from the TVA. You don't understand the variables, the incursions,
the convergence. If they meet, it's not war, it's annihilation.
The Beyonder smiles as the Void bends to his whim.
Behind him, Deadpool steps through, wide eyed. Okay, definitely not Canada,
Deadpool says. Beyonder turns back or turns his back facing Deadpool.
You chosen.
Speaker 1: Talks like as dead fool. I hate when that.
Speaker 2: You were chosen for your chaos. Now the let's break
the board. The Beyonder reaches out, touching the fractured Urban
Kang's hand. It dissolves in the sparks that all three vanished.
A burst of prismatic light uh revealing pull back, revealing
the floating fragments of one hundreds of alternative realities Earth collapsing, reforming,
and bleeding into one another. One fragment sends out a
glimpse of a throne forged from wreckage, but someone sitting
in the shadows doctor Doom.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, did you ask? Can you ask you? Who's
playing King Curious.
Speaker 2: Wa Kang in your story?
Speaker 1: Big Movie big budget. That's just Avengers pretty much that
what happened down that way? Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay okay uh. To match the tone from you know,
previous projects, the actor playing him would ideally still be
Jonathan Major's originally cast uh. But if the MCU recast
Kang for continue U continuity or legal reasons, a strong
alternative would be reggae Jean Page. Oh No Berton of
The Gray Man. I need to see a photo of
this guy.
Speaker 1: He's from.
Speaker 2: Character that's pick Why him? It says, it says, why him.
He brings intense sexual charisma.
Speaker 1: British edgy. Why that's nothing we need with.
Speaker 2: That's what means in British educated eloquence, a quiet menace.
His Kang would be elegant, refined, terrifyingly patient, and emotionally
devastating when seducing or destroying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say not a fan that.
Speaker 2: In the story, he appears shirtless beneath the flowing purple cloak,
eyes glowing subtly with temporal energy. His voice is smooth
like honey, but tinged with a threat. He doesn't just
want a real time, He wants to possess those who
threaten that body in mind.
Speaker 1: That's the fuck you in time, right, thanks chat GPT.
Well we'll see. I don't think we're gonna give that,
but I think we'll get some some surprise appearances and whatnot.
So yeah, fab GPT absolutely, yeah's well, no, I was
gonna say, I guess because it's not in the MCU,
we shouldn't be getting any surprise. It's not the MSU
and they said there's no heroes there than them, right,
so we shouldn't be getting any stuff. So uh but yeah,
hope it's a good time. We'll be real next week,
hopefully didn't double hopef well, get some cool action set
pieces and cool stuff with their powers, So we will see.
But we're gonna take our second ad break and we'll
be right back. And we are back, so we're gonna
talk about a little few DC updates and whatnot. Uh
So we're gonna start off with Wonder Woman here. But uh,
I have to ask you because people have been throwing
this around lately. I supposed to put in the discord
and what do you what do you feel about? So
right now, Superman, we're talk about stooming with you a
little bit the box officering like that. But Superman came out,
and you know, that's what's happening right now. There's a
report that said, hey, there's no sequel that's imminent right now,
not that it's not gonna happen, but and Gun's also
kind of hinted that he might be working on something
that has Superman but not Superman two. We've talked about
whether it's World Finess or just League, whatever it may be.
But in this artcle from Variety and this is like
a you know, s tire saying that as right now,
currently Wonder Woman is being fast tracked, which funny kind
of sat into the conversation Kurricly and I had because
we were talking about that right now, Okay, Superman came out,
and then for movies, never mind my TV shows, but
for movies, you have super Girl in July, and you
have clay Face in October, and then you have a
bunch of stuff on the slate like a swamp thing
or a Brave in the bowl, but nothing's really dated yet,
right And we were talking about like what big movie
could you put there, and we were saying like, oh,
it's probably other One Woe or Batman. But the problem
Batman is in twenty twenty seven in October. That's when
hopefully the Batman two comes out. So to me, this
would make a lot of sense. But uh, what do
you think about I'll ask this question a second, but
what do you think about this? Do you think this
would be a right move as far as because honestly,
they're announcing it's some other things like a swamp thing
or whatnot. But do you think it's probably a right
move that they should be maybe getting one they're bigger
characters there, or do you think they should keep kind
of just put out that initial slate they put out
and then get to wonder woman like, where are you
on this as far as it being fast wrecked? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ye.
Speaker 2: I mean I know James Gunn loves doing those little
side side projects, right, Like not everyone has seen Creature Commandos,
but that is taking place in the same universe, right,
So yeah, it's tricky. I feel like they should run
with this team that they got and they stick to
these heavy hitters, these main characters. So to me it
makes sense for them to do that, Yeah, more so
than them tackling someone a little bit smaller. Not everyone's
gonna know swamp thing not everyone's gonna know all the
other side characters. Yeah, the Authority, that's the one that
I was trying to remember, because it's the one that
got canceled.
Speaker 1: Right. They've never said, it's just kind of rumored. They
just said that they had a movie lots of scripts
and that's not going forward. So it could be that
could be starting Rock. Who knows what the engineer was
supposed to be in the Authority who was in Superman.
But I'll see that movie's not.
Speaker 2: Happening right now, right, Yeah, you know, And at the
end of the day, James Gunn is good at just
pairing up characters were not really familiar with. Again, I
didn't I have no pre existing concept of mister Terrific
or Guy Gardner or anything like that. But when you
watch Superman movie, it's like, Okay, I don't need to
know a lot of backstory. I'm getting it and I
could just jump on board with this narrative. So James
Gunn is good at doing that with characters. But that
being said, I'd still rather just focus on someone we're
all familiar with, because if you don't get Superman and
like a Wonder Woman movie, for example, it's still as
exciting and you feel like, Okay, well this is still
one of the big jump cheese Justice League members. This
is gonna lead us to Superman again, so you can
still feel like in spirit Superman is present.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I feel like, yeah, whatever's you gotta going
on with Superman? You got that go on? Who knows
if they're doing a World's Finest or something then sure.
But to me, let's say, Matt Reeves Batman two has happened, which,
what do you think about this quote? Apparently in this
article they said that Warner Brothers is thrilled with the
Batman two script or sorry, DC Studios. Do you believe that?
And I will say on the Superman press tour, James
Gunn has talked a lot about Matt Reeves's Batman. He's
not ever once mentioned any Musketty and his Batman really,
so it might be a good sign there, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I still think that there's a
chance that you see them throw this Batman in with
James Gunn's universe. I think that there is there's the
potential because they were talking about stuff like that. You know,
never say ever kind of a thing, but I think
it could happen and again too. If it keeps doing good,
then heck, maybe they offer Matt Reeves a position up
there with James gun and working on these DC projects.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think he's doing that. I don't know
about that. He's producing some stuff there. But so hopefully
that is true that they're thrilled with, and I hope
they just continue on. If James Gunn lets Matt Reeves
finish his trilogy, then I'll be a very happy camper.
And even if there's stuff like Swuerman that I don't love,
I'll give it a big pass. But you know what,
you let him finish that off. You didn't have to.
You could have cut him. Why are you laughing? Would
you laugh?
Speaker 2: Because the only reason, Like the next Superman could be
a terrible, terrible movie, and you're like, oh, I'll go
to pass because you let Matt Reeves finish this trilogy.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying i'll give it a pass, like I'll
actually pass the movie. I just won't be upset. I'll
be upset if it's like we got rid of the
Batman trilogy and then we got this bad Superman movie.
You know, it's the same reason I said before when
Jared Little came back as a joker for Snyder Cut,
I wasn't mad because we had just got Walking Phoenix's joker,
so I was like, oh, I got a great joke
right here. Yeah, sure, bring back. And you know that
scene wasn't half bad. So I think, let's say if
that does happen. And I've said this a few times,
but Wonder Woman is perfect because let's say they are
gonna do We're gonna let Matt Reeves do his thing,
and we are gonna do Brad in the bowl. We
are gonna do our own Batman. We're gonna stick to
our word. If the Batman two comes out. As we know,
Matt Reeves is a little bit slower at times, Like
that's not a bad thing, just the way he works.
Let's say the which I think is fucking crazy. But
let's say the Batman two comes out and then we
don't get Batman three for another five years, because that's
what's gonna be like, right, or yeah it is, because
the first one came out twenty twenty two and then
this come out in twenty twenty seven. That's five years.
So let's say we don't get the Batman three till
twenty thirty two, which to me is fucking nuts and
ten years get that, but I digress. Then to me,
that's almost perfect as far as okay, you started with Superman,
you do some other side characters, Superherol, that's connected, clay Face,
smaller budget, you know whatever. And then now you did
that your smaller characters, you're back to your big characters.
You do wonder Woman, cause they're already doing a Batman
movie with Patterson. Don't do that. And the good thing
is that you do Wonder Woman. The Batman two comes out,
does whatever it does. And then let's say if you
have five years, that's the perfect time. That's when you
do your Batman movie. You shove it in like the
middle of that of like, okay, let's say Matt's gonna
take five years, we'll let the Batman come out in
twenty seven, we'll let a year cool off, and then
in twenty twenty eight, twenty nine, we put on our Batman.
And then by time Matt Reeves does his third if
that happens, and let's say even and then let's say
people prefer let's say it's Glen Pough, He's Batman, and
people go, oh, I like this Batman better. Even if
Matt reeves Batman movie like the third one kind of disappoints,
It's like, well that's the end. It doesn't matter. It's
going out already. So I think it's a perfect scenario.
And when it's fast tracked, I hope it still just
means that, Hey, we really want to get one of
them out. Let's finish these scripts and make sure they're
good and then move the next thing. Not like a classic, well,
let's just rush to it and get it out there.
I hope that just means that's the top project. And
I think it's time now. I think we're in a
good spot, like this is way bring up to you
this tweet that's been going around from August tenth, twenty
twenty three, from discussing film Uh Galagadat, says James Gunnappier.
Saffron told her in a meeting UH that you're in
the best hands. We're going to develop wonder Woman three
with you. We love you as wonder Woman. You got
nothing to worry about. If I like, this is a
tough situation. We don't know these people, Taylor. If I
ask you, because clearly something's wrong here. So either they
have this meeting and in my opinion, James Gunn and
Saffron just you know, lie to her face, and I
get it. You had to do that, You had to
deal with those old DC people and then try to
wait or Galagadat is just making out this fucking meeting.
What do you think is happening here?
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Yeah, it's it's it's you know, she said,
he said vice versa, like, how do you really know
what the truth is here?
Speaker 2: Right? It Like it's it's kind of tough to say.
I feel like there's something along the lines of truth
to be had where James Gunn says, you know, like
you're you're safe and all that kind of stuff. But
at the same time, I could see that not being
the case because I feel like James Gunn likes to
go win, start recreating and doing his own thing. But
you know, look at the Suicide Squad. He pulled a
lot of those reaturing returning characters when he didn't have to,
unless the high head Honchols are like, no, you have
to pull back, like Maga, Robbie is, Harley Quinn all
these other things, And so he's coming along trying to
get like his poke Dot Man and you know all
these other characters in there. I feel like he I
feel like he's a man who really likes having the
creative control over his projects. So that being said, I
feel like, Okay, it is his say whether or not,
you know, Galcadot would be coming back or or not.
It's just it's it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: And people gotta remember because I don't think she's lying,
but I could see her kind of like fluffing some
of the information and people got to remember where it's
tough that he's in a situation because we can look back.
We've always held both Matt Reeves stuff or other stuff.
He said said, oh, you know, James Gunn said this,
but then what actually happened to me, wasn't that true?
Or it seems there's some if he but he's already
done that multiple times before when this was happening right
the transition, and if he'll don't remember when he got
the gig, they still had Flash to come out Auckaman,
Blue Beetle like Shazam and don't forget Wonder Woman Galakana
was in Shazam too and was in Flash like she
was in. Remember she helped save oh right, so that's
where it's like, no, she's said the one you're thinking
of Jamon Huntsu when he's uh, oh yeah. But that's
the thing. Remember that scene, and like Zam wakes up
and Gimon Hunts' is like yeah, but yeah, she had
a few scenes. And again I think he's in the
situation of what Jazam two is massive and what a
Flash is massive. I can't just say we're for sure
getting rid of you or those characters, right, that's the
tough thing. So I think he did have to play
ball a little bit. But the second those movies didn't
really do well, it was very easy to go. You
know what, I can just kind of you know, plans change.
That's all you gotta say, is plan change. We're supposed
to do in Supero Draft tonight. No, Kirkland got a migraine.
You know, plans change. So I think it's a good step.
I think it's the right step. I think it's time.
I think for a multitude reasons, I think the band
age can be pulled off, and I don't think there's
gonna be even that much blood. I think Galca dot
or Adote has you know, had some had some issues
in the public, whether it's for acting or whether it's
for very very big time political views which don't have
to be expressed in certain situations. Not gonna get into it,
but I feel like there's times where you know, you
gotta you gotta walk a thin line if there's a
certain thing you believe, especially when other people's lives are
the line, not yours. Who's sitting in America very cozy
right now. So I think I don't think, don't get
me wrong. I know there's times where we've done cast
and people have been in our comments saying like, oh,
you can't recast, recast, but I think that's a very
easy recast now, so you know, we'll see what happens.
So and then I was gonna throw a tailor, but
you know, no empty chair right now. You know, Detail
says she's the worst on social media. Yeah, it's it's
stuff like that, right, and I you know, it's I
think that's where people can easily more part ways with
somebody when they don't enjoy them personally. I guarantee you Detail,
And for all of us, there are dozens and dozens
of actors and actresses that if we met them in
real life, knew their views, their values, we go like, man,
this person's a piece of shit, but we still watch
the movies and love it. Right, Like there's a separated
between the art and the artists. So that's what you
could do there. But I think it does make it
easier when you don't love the person you know, and
S Pumps is right certain views that are the opposite
of the ones shown by James Gunn with the story
told in Superman. And yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's
I a little awkward there, right, But I was gonna
ask you this question before we could go get on
the next thing with Superman. Obviously, you know with trouble things,
But what do you think think with Suit or with
Wonder Woman, are we gonna get a no name or
we're gonna get a star?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This is another thing that's tricky because
I feel like the past few projects James Gunn has
had people pop in that I think the studio before
he had that position of power, he was just directing,
like the Suicide Squad. I think he got to you
got to mingle it up and mix it up. We
got people that he likes to bring into the projects,
and then people at the studio wanted to bring in.
I think it's the same thing with Guardians. I think
Guardians was a good display of like, Okay, here's some
people that I want in and some people the studio
wants to put in there. So when it comes to this,
I don't know who or how many people are in
his inner circle, but I think he's got complete control
over who he wants to put in here, and I
think he's gonna get someone who's probably is Palm Clement
tief count as like a big star, main star or
like she more closely.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think she's so I more mean that sense.
Would it be someone like Dan korn Sweat where it's like, oh,
yeah he was in Pearl, but like he didn't, he
wasn't in anything.
Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone like that where Yeah, because Paul Clem, I
wouldn't say she's a big star. But you can list up, well,
she's been in Mission Impossible, she's been in Guardian, she's
been in Black Mirror. Like you list multiple things. With
David corn Sweat, everybody maybe knew like luckily maybe knew
one project he had been in, right, so evening twist
that yeah, yeah, interesting. I really I really don't know.
I could see them getting a no name for that.
Especially it helps with budgets, right, if they're gonna keep
that stuff down, that's the way to build up. And
I think it helps to the the better Superman continues
to do, the more likely they will say, yeah, get
a no name. Because David corn Sweat was a no name, right,
I still think that Batman will be a name. If
you look at all the Batman Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer,
George Clooney, Christian Bale, Ben Affleck, there are passing. The
lowest person list was Christian Bale. Even George Clooney was
part of VR, a very popular show. Christian Bale was
an up and coming actor. But those other people were
all A list people before they got Batman, And that's
why I still think. Also, I think it helps counter
Robert Pass. And I think if you get another big star,
if you get like raw Pass and versus a no name,
somebody like eh, who's that guy? Or if they have
to pick, it's like, well, I don't really care about
this guy, because like I know Rob Pass and I
like his Batman, right, but I think they got to
get someone even though people at first I was not
against it. But even though people at first when Ben
Affleck were now It's were heavily against it, people were
still curious how it was gonna play out. I think
that's why Batman's gonna be a name, because it's gonna
You're gonna get that curiosity feel that want to check
it out. So, yeah, I talk about Sumann doing well.
It's been an interesting couple days here for super Man.
So Superman came out, made one hundred and twenty five
million dollars in the worldwide box office. Uh, and that
was two I think twenty two or something worldwide or
sorry at the domestic the first one and then now
to twenty two world war wide, And that was the
story where it did very well domestic, third biggest opening
of the year, but it's international numbers were a bit lacking,
coming in under expectations. It didn't beat mass Steel's opening
weekend and didn't beat the Batman. But then what's interesting,
Taylor is.
Speaker 2: The hall.
Speaker 1: So the Tuesday and Wednesday for Superman were the biggest,
reading that, yeah, we're the biggest of the year, and
the Monday wasn't. But the only reason one was bigger
is Leland and Stitch came home Memorial Day, so it
was a holiday. So if you look at non holidays,
Superman had the biggest Monday. So that's like three separate
records right there. And then even then it's Monday, Tuesday
and Wednesday beat the Batman. So it's kind of funny
that the Batman had a better opening weekend, but now
throughout the weekday, Superman's having a better weekday. The thing
that helps Batman is he did much much better like international,
So I think there's just like a bigger hero there.
But yeah, what are your thoughts now? Because you you
were on the lower end when we did our pictures,
you said it was gonna be like one hundred, like
one hundred or two one hundred five million, and now
it opened at one twenty five, so about twenty five
million more. And now like best Tuesday, best Wednesday best
not holiday Monday. Like it's having these very good legs
and now it's all about We've talked about many times,
but it's all about the second weekend. Some people are
predicting it's a fifty percent drop, which would be really good.
There's even some people projecting and that'd be like a
like under fifty, which like that if they could get anywhere,
even if it's forty nine, that'd be massive because so
many blockbusters and especially comic movies, it's always sixty plus.
So yeah, what do you take about this from? Because
obviusly you're somebody think you liked it more than you thought.
What are you taking about these weekdays? And you know,
like details pointing out that maybe the word of mouth
is really spreading, and how do you think it's going
to do it at second weekend coming up here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked it more than I thought I
was going to. Uh, And I think that it doesn't
have any competition. Like we were talking about Smurts at
the beginning, that comes out this weekend, and I think
that's what the only competition that the movie has.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so there's other MOVI movies coming out, but
I don't think there's any competition. I don't think this competition.
I don't know how you forgot how that I know
what you did last summer set out this weekend.
Speaker 2: That's no competition.
Speaker 1: And then the other movie is The ari ast Eddington movie,
you know, the COVID, right, that's not competition. I'm I
want to see it. I can't see it now because
we went over the time. The next showing was at
nine forty. But that's okay. There's that. I'm sorry, that
movie's gonna that movie's gonna eat it. That it's like
a Trippier not trip. But I mentioned it's like a
drama horror and Ariostra's stuff doesn't really I think speak
to a lot of the mainstream people. And I I
don't think I'm alone that. I don't think people really
want to watch movies about COVID right now. Like here,
pay to see them, go to the theaters, pay see them.
If it's on Netflix, Amazon, sure, but to go out
and pay see it's like, I don't think I'm ready
to go back there. It's that time frame, you know.
So but yeah, I don't think there's real competition. So
how do you think it's gonna do? Then?
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna do very very well. I mean,
I again, it's just gonna come down to people wanting
to go see dinosaurs or they want to go see
you know, superhero stuff. And in Fantastic four is still
a week away, so we don't have to worry about that.
It's just these two heavy hitter movies. And I think
it's gonna do good because when we were seeing it
that that opening night, there was definitely a buzz in
the air. You know, we're gonna have the shirts and stuff. Yeah,
people were happy, Oh right.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of shirts. No clapping though again
we never got I thought for sure someone was gonna
applause the end, but didn't. But so if I were
to ask you, what do you think percentage drop? I
want to you know, what do you think percentage drop?
It's gonna have. We live right now in the post
COVID lost. These big blockbusters are dropping the big sixty,
which hurts because it's like you make most of your
money opening weekend and you kind of go from there.
But then you have something good Sinners that had, you know,
very little drops, et cetera. So what do you think
it's gonna do percentage wise?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's gonna hit that that fifty percent.
Speaker 1: Really, I think it's gona be fifty fifty ishes.
Speaker 2: I think I think, yeah, fifty ish. I think it's
gonna it's gonna do good. It's gonna be really really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the no competition helps. I think, yeah,
like it's it's tough because like even Kyle he at
first was gonna be like I don't think I'm gonna
go see it, but now he's I think he's seeing
it tonight actually, so I'll maybe I'll read his review
on air and stuff like that. But yeah, I think
there is a buzz, and I think is just a
general too of like what's what's this about? Right? And
I think that's a good thing to build up because
I think it's more than just a Superman stuff. And
I've seen tons of stuff shared on social media that
I think has made people actually want to go see it,
Like I had someone told me that, like just seeing
the stupid monkey scene was like, oh I found that
very funny and I like that take, so I'm gonna
go see it. So And I just think that at
least for Superman, Jurassic World did what it did making money.
But I don't think. I don't think Drastic World or
F four, other than some postcredit things, I don't think
they're gonna have like as much talking pieces as Superman does.
I mean, like that that kind of water cooler stuff
or Superman. Because it's a new universe, new actors. I
think there's a lot of like, oh what do you
think about this? So what do you think about that?
And everything? So yeah, we'll see. I I'm with you.
I think it's in the fifty. I don't think it's
gonna go forty. I think that's people getting really really excited.
I'm gonna say fifty two, that's gonna say. But man,
if we wake up Sunday and it isn't forty, that's
that's some good stuff. Because Centers offse Centers had a
much smaller box office, like it's total, it's under three
hundred million, but still are just over something like that.
But it's like still was impressive. It did that, So yeah,
we will see. So all right, we're gonna take our
last ad break and then we'll be back with some trailers.
So we'll be right back. And I lied because you
know what, I should go to some of the Patreon
questions because I know we had some about these topics,
so let me just bring them up my bad here,
let's see. Okay, so this is perfect, so I can
bring up these guys right here. This is about DC
and then we got some ones with Mike talking about
some uh some trailers and some other TV shows. That's
a perfect timing. So Charlie Randall says, what are your
guys thoughts on guns, saying the DCU is leading to
an event that no one expects. The Crawl at the
Star Superman mentioned the beginning of ages of meta humans.
Would you want a villain on Earth like Vandal Sage,
I know if you don't know that is to take it,
but the world's first meta or do you want something
cosmic black as night. I know you wouldn't know that is,
but what what would you What would you prefer as
far as like Also, we don't know the pitch because
Yeah keeps saying, hey, he his thing is He says
he doesn't want to say it out loud because people
are gonna steal the idea, which has happened before. But
for you, let's say it's like Justice League or just
the first DC crossover movie. Would you rather be kind
of a Earth based, you know, a even if it's
a meta human like Lex luthoran a meta human or
something like that, or would you rather us going up
to like a Fanalis level? Again, not necessarily but like
a snap. But you know what I mean as far
as like you want more earth based or more cosmic
based like Charlie's asking, I.
Speaker 2: Would say more earth based. I mean, we're gonna be
getting some cosmic stuff periodically like the Lantern Show and whatnot,
So I think something earth based is good. Just because
they did that one kind of like oh versus a
human on Earth kind of a storyline doesn't mean they
can't redo it and just kind of change up that
formula a little bit. I wouldn't want it to be
exactly like if you know another Lex Luthor kind of scenario.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me, I'm I'm kind of game
for either or I It's tough because like James Gunn
did all those Guardians movies, right, so I could easily
see it being cosmic. I easily could see green lanterns
being a set up because you know, there's many of
them out there. But I did, like on our weekly
geek mic pitch, and we've talked those before about doing
oh my God, what is the God? I'm forgetting the
team bad guys who anyone in the call him and
tell me it's what are the bad guys called something villains.
There's a group of bad guys in DC, they get together,
it's the main ones. But he had pitched, like, what
if the idea is a bunch of It's like a
leg of villains or a Liga something I don't know,
but like, what if the idea is a bunch of
villains teaming to to fight the Justice League or whatever.
I do like that because I've said this before. We've
never got We've never gotten to like the Avengers versus
the team of Villains, the Thunderbolts versus team of Villains,
Like they won't pull that card. We never I thought
that was a layup in Marvel and DC that at
some point they're gonna do a movie where a bunch
of team a villains team up and fight the heroes,
and they never did, you know, so I would like that.
So I guess I'm on the Earth based size, but
I kind of trust gun either way. So we'll see.
Let's see. Charlie Randell also asks what are the chances
Peacemaker joins the Justice League team by the end of
the Gods and Monsters chapter. There you go, the Legion
of Doom, thank you very much. So that would be
the bad guys crime cit Again, that's one that's more
of the guys that fight the Flash because they're like
lower tier. But I've been in a Flash movie. We'll
get that. But yeah, what do you think, TAA would
you how would you feel if Peacemaker ended up on
the the Justice League squad?
Speaker 2: I would not be surprised. I really wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I feel would you like that that interest you? Oh?
Speaker 2: You know you? It would interest me. But I feel
like this moment that you put him on there, I
think it just means that you're going to be getting
a certain level of humor consistently throughout yus. I don't
remember many slow emotional moments in that first season of Peacemaker.
I can't really. I'm sure there are somebody pinpoint it, Like,
remember he.
Speaker 1: Kills a big character off that's close to him. That's
a big moment. Oh yeah, it's pretty emotional because that
characters connect to him. So there's a couple. Yeah, but yeah,
I don't want that. I talt. We talk a little
bit on Weekly Geeky and Kirkland. I've said this before.
The only way I want in the Just League movie
is the same way in the Guardians were in Findy
War where they're in the movie, but they are not
officially on the Guardians team. I'm completely down if in
the movie Justice League they have to work with Peacemaker,
and that fucking sucks because who wants to work with Peacemaker?
But I don't know if I would want him on
the squad. I feel like make he'm a key character
to the DCU put in the Justice League. That feels
too much like the you know the jokes about gun nepotism,
but that feels like it's nepotism for his character, Like, well,
I love peace Maker and I brought him over, so
he's gonna be on there just like no, no like.
And I think that's what makes peace Maker kind of
special too, because you had what happened season one, and
we don't know exactly what happens in season two. But
in season two he's doing that interview with Guy Gardner
and Maxwell Lord and hawkerl and everything, and obviously he
doesn't get on the Justice Gang. Right. It's similar what
Ryan Reynolds has said about Deadpools, like Deadpool can never
be on the Avengers or the X Men, because the
second you do that, he's achieved his goal. He would
be happy and you need that character strive for something.
So's to get Peacemaker gets put on Justice League, It's like, well, what,
like what's the point of him? You know, like I
feel like he's just like an aragan asshole that's just
like okay, cool, but like you can do the other
You're like, Guy Gardner's right there already, right, So it
absolutely guns of Soca. It is very much like Dave
Filoney will put a Sooka in anything. If Peacemaker is
the key er in jes League, that would be his
Who do you think Kim Figgy is is? Because I
feel like he hasn't talked as much a flowy gun.
We don't know, But who do you think is the
character that's secretly like he loves and has been like
in the last like like face vizes someone say hey,
that's his guy. We're like, oh you know what that
makes sense?
Speaker 2: You Jackman?
Speaker 1: Well, no, because you chum just got in the MCU.
I'm saying, what's the character you think you get working
in there to bring back? Like make sure that guy's
in there?
Speaker 2: Oh man? Like from the very very start or am
I starting? You said phase five? No?
Speaker 1: I mean like anywhere from now and on chat. Let
me know if you've got any suggestions. I'm trying to think, like,
who's a character that's always popped up? And well, I
know it's dumb, but it's probably just Iron Man, right,
he popped out a lot. He popped up in Spider Man,
you know. Yeah, so Howard the Duck even got him
in an endgame battle. See, I would believe that, but
like they've done nothing with how that. I was expecting
him to at least be a member of the Guardians
and that never happened. So that's annoying. Mix is long. Yeah,
you can make the case for that, especially in the
Disney Plus shows. He was in a lot of those, right,
So yeah, yeah, that's a good answer. So alright, so
let's talk about his last picture in question and then
some trailers. So Mike asks, uh, suer mixes, which is
the following upcoming TV or big shows? Are you guys
most excited for Peacemaker, Alien, Earth, Stranger things gen V?
Feel free to rank them if you watch them all? Yeah,
I guess if I will. Also, we'll talk about some
of those trailers. May will do the TV ones first,
terror give me a ranking of Peacemaker, Alien Trainer Things,
gen V from excited to most excited least, so.
Speaker 2: Alien Earth is probably at the number one aries that trailer.
Speaker 1: Definitely, no, no, no, just the TV shows, just the.
Speaker 2: TV Stranger Things specials. Yeah, Stranger Things would be next. Sorry,
what were the other two?
Speaker 1: Peace Maker and gen V.
Speaker 2: Peacemaker and gen V. I probably put gen V at
the bottom and peace Maker right after that, like in excitement.
So gen V is four three and so forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tough because we'll talk at the I
think gen V is fourth for me. I think it's
a little bit of I didn't love that last season
of the Boys, and I I think I'm just more curious.
I I feel gen V did a very good job
and I really enjoyed that show. Don't get me wrong,
but I feel like they are still a bit more
of a box than the other two. I think I
would go gen V Peacemaker. Like I I definitely put
Stranger Things at top, because I'm not like other people
that are like, oh, it's been so long, like I
don't even care, Moore, It's like no, I still care,
Like I like all those characters. Sure they look a
little older, whatever, I'm best cel story goes Peacemaker and
Alien Earth is a big toss up because that trailer
we're talking about today. I've said this before the multi
times I've seen posters and teasers, and then we got
that only that one other trailer, and I just said, like,
I love No Holly, love Legions. So no matter what,
I know, the show's gonna be good. It's gonna be slow,
but it's gonna be good. But nothing had hit me
yet to get me really excited. The trailer that came
out today. That was a superb trailer. I'm very excited
for Alien Earth. Now, like that felt other than some
shots on them on the planet, but that felt like
cinematic as far as like the movie right.
Speaker 2: I'm the score too that they used that track was
really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I that got me up a lot. Also,
It's like, I love that trailer and I love No Holly,
but I think with Peacemaker there's gonna be some really
interesting DCU stuff. Whether I like it or not, I
don't know. And that's where I feel like it sounds.
I guess, gun to my head, I'll put Alien Earth
at second because I'm just a bit more curious about
were Peacemaker, we've already gone, right, so other than it
being in a new universe, we kind of know what
it's gonna happen for the most part. But that'll be
fun to see those rankings after the fact. But yeah,
Alien Earth. Being toub about that trail a first, ye
absolutely loved it. I'm very excited to see where they go.
I love the setup, like very easy plot of you know,
this had five species and no ounce crashed and they're
gonna try and catch them all. But no, I'm I'm
very excited. I think those are gonna be some very
interesting show or reviews because we've never had like an
alien like we did the Alien Retro Predirector. But this
is a TV show, not a movie, right, so and
I'm very curious to the pace and I'm gonna be
curious see what they do with they cannon gonna be
serious curious to see how other people take the show,
like the Alien one. I'm and you know, for the
most part, I think it, like I said, I think
when they looked on the planet, are on the on
the planet like a little cheap and the stuff in place,
and the Jesus the stuff in space and the stuff
in the ship. We're looking good. So yeah, how are
you feeling of this alien or trail there?
Speaker 2: I think it looked fantastic. Uh, and just the idea
that they're actually crashing on Earth. And I mean, we
already know that the alien hasn't been found. I guess
according to company records if you look at aliens, because
they don't know what that thing is. But then it's
it's hard to know how this fits in the timeline
with David going off on his mission and creating these eggs.
And I think it comes down to something that I
read where they were talking about how no matter what,
the evolutionary line of this black goo is just ultimately
going to the zenomorph, this creature. So whether or not
David created the eggs, that's one thing. But I don't
think it has an effect on humanity finding eggs elsewhere
and then bringing those eggs on the shift with five
of their different alien species. And I keep seeing like
photos drop for one of the alien species, which really
grosses me out. It's like an eyeball and or so
it's like these tentacles they go into you and they
latch onto your eye and use your eye to like
look it looked like I couldn't. That's just me gauging
what the photos looked like. Could be completely wrong, but
just the idea that too, as reading an article where
they were talking about how you watched that first alien
and you can't replicate that, just the grossness of this
thing's life cycle. And so what they were doing with
this show is they want to repeat that process but
make it new. So they're not giving you just like
the how the alien's life cycle is, but you're getting
this with the other creatures that are involved here. It's
just it's going to be gross and freaky and everything.
And I'm just really excited for it. I'm excited to
see how it's going to build off of everything else
we got in this universe so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm curious. I can't. I can't wait in
August twenty second, it's just a month of way Taylor. So,
and this this felt very alien heavy. But again I'm
prepping everybody. You know, Holly likes to take his time
of the shows. They end up always having a good crescendo,
but just give time. Deal if it's a little slow,
who knows.
Speaker 2: But the final shot of the trailer with the alien
the cavern just was spooky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then on the other one, Mike mentioned Strader
Things season five if I want, obviously we're getting this
release schedule of November, December and the New Year's Eve.
Don't know the run times. There's rumors lots of these
episodes are like two two and a half hours. But no,
it was great. I love Stranger Things. I think there's
a very variety of like the seasons, but I do.
I'm in the camp the last season was the best one,
and I think all the seasons, I don't think there's
any season that's like below a nine for me, which
I think is pretty good for a TV show, you know,
And I think they're ending at a good point here.
I'll say, no, it's been a long time, but if
you think about the show, it's just like it's only
been not only but it's been five seasons. Right, it's
not a show it's gone. It's weird because it's gone
on long, but it's not like in season eight or nine.
But no, I thought this was a great trailer. Love
that built de Vecna, like the song choice, like the visuals,
like everything, and I do like I think they did
a great job of I know it sounds dumb, but
some people don't always do the best when marketing things.
They did a great job of actually making us feel
like it's the final season, not just saying oh, it's
final seasons. Just like the situations they're putting the characters
in and the situations they're showing us, it feels like
it has that stakes of Okay, we might actually lose
some people this time. So no, I'm very excited to
see what that release goed was, and maybe we'll do
some reviews for it, because we've reviewed every other season
a variety of us. But no, I thought this was
a great trailer. I actually don't need to see anymore.
I don't know if there'll be another one, but I am. No,
I'm I'm excited to see where it all goes and
how we end up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, considering we're getting three parts, right, Yeah,
so I'm looking forward to it. The trailer really really
got me more excited. And seeing Vecna and seeing everything
else like that just looks like, Okay, the city is
kind of like our quarantine. They're just doing these routine
like portal burning sessions or something just to keep things contained.
But yeah, it looks like.
Speaker 1: Technically this time too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's evolved like a lactus, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: How long do you think the time jump is. I
think they're gonna do like in show, like it's been
a couple of years. I think they're gonna be like,
it's gonna be a couple months, because obviously they're not
picking up right after, right, So.
Speaker 2: I mean if the town is gated off and set
up for this quarantine kind of thing, like, it could
be a couple of years. I'd probably say at least
a year minimum.
Speaker 1: Okay, this year? Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh right?
Speaker 1: What are their trays to be happy? I'll hit you
with this this one. What did you think about after
the Hunt?
Speaker 2: After the Hunt?
Speaker 1: Do you not watch that one? The Andrew Garfield one?
Speaker 2: Juy Roberts, No, I missed that one, and I swear
that you wrote Wednesday in here too. Oh no, I
was miss reading.
Speaker 1: Okay, what did you miss read?
Speaker 2: What did you I miss? Okay? So what I what
I watched was I watched Mortal Kombat, Alien Earth, Rights, Sonya,
Stranger Things, and tron Aries. I didn't watch Hoppers because,
oh man, that one went over my head. As I
didn't watch that one, but you talk, you can speak
to that and after the hunt.
Speaker 1: After the hunt looks very interesting. It's uh yeah, Julia
Roberts area the barrier and Andrew Garfield and he they're
like at a college and it's Andrew Garfield plays this
very looks like for bosious kind of asshole, assholes teacher.
So then ale, they don't show in the trailer what's
true or not, but she insinuates that he assaults her.
And it's a whole movie that Julia Roberts is in
the middle of, you know, a colleague she's very close
to and a student of hers, and it seems like
it's like a back and forth to like, you know,
who did what and everything like that, and it's and
I feel like they're trying to insinuate of just because
you don't like a person, you maybe shouldn't assume that
they just did that crime, right, And they're not saying
he didn't do the crime. It's just that situation of
it looks bad for him because in the real world
he looks like he's kind of an asshole, right, But
it's like, just because your asshole doesn't mean you're an assaulter.
But that's kind of situation. But then Aoa de Barry
kind of hintsed some stuff about Jael Roberts past. It's like, well,
I thought, because you're past, you can help me, and
she's like, well what about my past? And they cut
away and it's like, oh, what's going on there. It's
the same guy that did call me by her name
Challengers Queer. There's another one in there. The guy was
doing side Luca Guada. You know. So I'm looking very
it looks like it's gonna be a very intense, heavy
movie dealing with a lot of those situations of people.
You should definitely believe women and their claims, but at
the same time you have to look into them and
do your you know, the studying. But at the same time,
you got to have those in the right hands, because
we've seen many people that take a look at these
investigations and they're not the right sources to be doing
these and it's like, did they really do this or
did they just not? Because they even say this in
the trailer. One girl just says like, oh, why couldn't
she just like put up with it like we used to,
And it's like, well, that's not the way it should
be right, but there's many systems that do that hoppers.
I don't know what the plot is, but oh sorry,
I know what the plot isn't the story is tay.
The plot was that for some reason, humans are putting
their brains into animals and controlling the animals and it's like.
Speaker 2: A farm a protest right to like save.
Speaker 1: The forest something like that. Yeah, and the story that
didn't show that much. I actually was really enjoying the trailer.
But then they do this thing where there's a bear
that's about to eat an animal, and the person that's
our main character's like, no, no, no, don't do that. And
it's a whole discussion between our main character, who's like
a beaver or whatever or like a damn strang know what,
he is, a bear and the animal is gonna eat
and of why the bear should eat him, and it's
just a full like forty five seconds. It's a dialogue
scene of that like that, like it's supposed to be jokes,
but like it kind of killed it for me. So
I don't know. I'm excited to go. I think it's
on the Ilio movie. So when I see it, the
girls but it looks like it has some potential, and
they were really hitting hard of like from the Peel
that gave you inside out too, and they went like
Toy Story, Toy Story two, Twister three, Twist Story four.
They're really trying to make it. Know, like, hey, if
you like these movies, because obviously their original stuff's been struggling.
So no, it actually looked cute, So I'm I'm very
excited to see that. But on the other Disney front,
tron Aris, what do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, this is one that I was really confused
on because when we saw the trailer last time, you know,
they didn't give us any information, So going into this trailer,
I was like, okay, so what do we got? And Okay,
it's they've they've brought the grid to the real world.
They can fabricate their.
Speaker 1: Own uses a weapon, who would have weapon?
Speaker 2: I think there's some cool stuff in here. But it's
gonna be interesting to see how this builds off with
the second one. But I guess that makes sense because
Olivia Wilde's character probably paved the way for them to
be able to do this and use this technology, right
because she came out of the game.
Speaker 1: So if I don't know, I only saw it once
a long time ago. So that's why if we potentially
do retroonite, it's been I don't remember both trons that well.
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, she she gets out with with help,
so they get her out and so it makes sense
where here they're able to replicate and create these Grid
people in the real world, but just seem.
Speaker 1: Like disposable soldiers because that's Evan Peter's pitch, right of like,
oh he's you know, he's called these super strength all
this stuff, and then when he dies, I'll just bring
him right back. So it's just kind of like, instead
of using your people, it's just always using the same
guy again and again.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and I'm excited to see how Letto's gonna do.
Is this guy?
Speaker 1: Are you excited?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you never know what you're gonna
get with with him, but the trailer definitely made it
seem like, you know, he's saying pretty calm and pretty
chill and nothing too safe. Well, I mean he's a
computer program, so I think it fits. He's a computer soldier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Jeff bridges that it was a computer program.
He's got some chrisma.
Speaker 2: I would say, like Clue devil Chrisma. Clue definitely had
that evil charisma, but it worked because it was like
it was Jeff Bridges with Jeff Bridges.
Speaker 1: But that's a pro. That's the problem. Taylor is like
Jeff Bridges as like he's just a character in himself.
Jared Lettle like, I don't. I got my issue. I've
like many things Jared Lettle has done, especially some of
the personal stuff that's finally come to light, which is
like interesting to see. I guess see how it impacts
this movie. But I just feel like every time the
trailer cut to him, doesn't matter. This is Jared LOHI film.
Just this character, of the vibe he was given off.
I was like, I was bored. I was like, man,
this trailer especially there's that shot. This is why I'm
still seeing this movie because visually this just there's that
shot where let's say it's just in New York. It's
from like a bird's eye view and it's all like
the streams of the bikes and stuff, but it's just
in the sky of New York and it's like dozens
of these bikes and everything like this. The visual effects
and the kind of incorporation of the trong world with
the real world. It's just looking so good. And again
they even pumped it up nine nails, like doing original music.
Anytime that him this, I was like, I was I
was juice and everything looks great in this. And I
don't even mind that plot line of like using these
soldiers because they're dispendable. But just Ay and I we
went to the well. There's something I had to do
and uh, I don't know what it is, but I
feel like I have to do it and it's I
guess it's a city where he had a family or something.
But just like every time I cut to Jared Letto,
I was like, oh, like, I just it just felt
like it was a black hole charisma for me. So
I don't know, I'll be there. I'm excited those visuals.
I'm really hoping this one's not disappointing. I could be worried.
But another one, this one I threw in more just
for you. I wish Kirkle was here because I think
he got kicked out of this too. But Red Sonia,
what do you feel about Did you ever see the
original Red Sonia? No? I okay, it's like a classic
comic book character not like Marvel DC, but just like
back in the I don't know, sixties, seventies, fifties. He god,
who what's Arnold played? Who's the big Oh Conan? So
you know Conan the Barbarian that sort of the deal.
Red Sonny is a part of that. So they didn't
write Red Sonia movie and Arnold was in there and stuff.
So what did you think about this? Because I felt
like this was given some vibes that Taylor would have
been loving in the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's exactly what this movie just was preaching this
early two thousands vibes. Actually scenes. The only thing this
thing was like young Kate Beckhamsale in here in one
of these roles. I feel like she would have been
eating this role out.
Speaker 1: They got the other girl from Underworld in here, though.
Did you see that that Rhnamitra? So remember the girl
that I can't remember? It's like, what's the prequel Underworld movie?
Speaker 2: Lis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they have that female lead in there who
like looks similar to Kate beck and Cell but not exactly.
And I think they did that on purpose to trick people,
But she was in there. She was fine. Red so
on you at one point.
Speaker 2: Oh she really Yeah, Okay, okay, well that's pretty cool.
I don't know if I'm gonna rush to theaters to
see this, and if you guys are gonna like do
a you know, commentary tracker, I'll watch along. I'll take
you on for that. I just don't know if.
Speaker 1: Watching that could be a good idea. Yeah, this trailer
facts wise looking a little behind, and I not to
be mean, because I've looked at it. She seems like
she's building a bit of a falling in like the horror,
like the like a smaller tier community. So good for her.
It just was when they were trying to do like
like Melinda Lutz is, but so it's like I don't
know who that is, Like it was like a big actress, right,
But I appreh that. I feel like they felt like
this was like they've probably made a cheesy movie and
they just leaned right into that with the trailers. So
I did want to see this. Yes, very Scorpion King
my super MIxS Red Stony trailer is a tribute to
early two thousand street DVD vibes. I agree, but this
one at least looked like it was fun where I
know lots of people say about the Venam movies. I
just don't have fun with those, So yeah, not the theaters,
but yeah, maybe this would be a good movie night
after ning commentary tracks, so yeah, that that that could
be something. But yeah, it was definitely a movie out
of time, and we'll see what it does and what
audiences gets. But finally here we are going to talk
about Mortal ko Met two off Sleep. You can go
back on our Patreon at certain tiers. We did commentary
tracks for both the originals. For the the movies of course,
and then we did review in COVID time Mortal Kombat
the first one and now Here we Are. That was
I think twenty twenty one that first one came out,
is it? Let me see Mortal.
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty one sounds well right.
Speaker 1: Yeah to this one. So it's been four years, so
it's like a Batman, you know, the Batman situation. But uh,
you got Carl Urban in here, it's Johnny Cage. What
did you think of this trailer sequels coming out in October?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I had a good time with this.
This seemed like it's it's not gonna be perfect by
any means, but just uh yeah, it looks like it's
gonna be a really, really fun time. I'm excited to
see some familiar faces, obviously, and I don't know a
lot about the Mortal Kombat world or a lot of
backstory about these characters, but there's some in here that
I really do appreciate. And it seems like they're going
to make this much more in line with the games
when it comes to like doing the moves and like
the fighting, and even then we actually have them like, hey,
Mortal Kombat is actually happening here, whereas the previous movie,
gosh it what was? There was no moral combat in
there to turn it.
Speaker 1: They're fighting, but they're just getting together. Well, we hope
that there's a tournament in this one. I don't actually
care that much. Like I get why people want the tournament.
I think in a movie a tournament doesn't work because
then you have to kill all the characters and you
can't bring them back in Mortal Kombat World. But yeah,
there looks to be maybe a tournament here. But you're
you're excited for this?
Speaker 2: I am, yeah, looking forward to it. This will be
a theater watch for sure. I think it's just gonna
be outrageous and Zany, So I think.
Speaker 1: It will be yeah. No, I I'll say my only
negative negative with this is, man, some of the facts
in here we're not looking good. And this is from
this is not like red Sonia. We're red Sonia watching okay,
you know Millennia Production and Millennium Productions, like, yeah, you're
you're working with what you got. This is War Brothers
does Mortal Kombat. That shot at the end we're scorping,
like cuts the guy in half. It like that looks
like early two thousand CGI. That doesn't look good. There's
I can't remember. There's like a oh the environments they're at,
like Johnny Cage is talking, I assume a Sonya blade
and they're outside it just it looks like they're on
an old green screen. There's another fight too where there's
just stuff going on. But I will say that this
looks like way more enjoyable than the first ones. The
first one, I think they played it too serious. I think,
you know there, I get what they're going for. But
I think at first, when I heard we heard the
rumblings of Johnny Cage being the main character, I thought, oh,
that's an odd choice. Like and even Carl Urban at
first like, oh, that's an odd choice. It's been odd,
but seeing this trailer, it's like, oh, it's kind of perfect.
The fish out of water scenario. They did that a
little bit the first one, right, but this perfect Like
just a movie star. I like the storyline that he's
like an aging movie star. He's lost his way you
talk about in the discord. But I love the you know,
the mission apostle rip off, Citizen Cage, like all these
fun little puns are doing with Johnny Cage, and I
think this just works as far as like having like
a lovable douchebag thrown into the Mortal Kombat and just
see how it goes. And usually stuff that would work
for me, like when there's like a RockA or whatever
that you know species is and he' said like I
gotta cut you up and he's just like not the
face and then like he starts backflipping. Usually transmit that
didn't work for it. That worked for me. I was like,
you know what. And I do think that's why they
got Carl Urban because I don't think he's like who
I would have thought of for Johnny Cage. But Carl
Urban one is a good actor and I think two,
he'll make you invest in him. I don't know about
everybody else, but just like this little stuff like every
looking very serious, like Showtime, Like I think this movie
looks miles miles as far as being more fun. Is
it gonna be better? I don't know, but I do
think it's gonna be a good time. And I think
this was the route, the good route to go. Now
we just gotta see the movie and see if they
delivered that way. But yeah, we'll find out. But yeah,
that's in October. We'll definitely be reviewing that, and yeah
that's our newscast. Anything else here before we get out
of here?
Speaker 2: I got nothing, you got nothing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, like I said, we do have dexter. Me
and Kirklan will be reviewing that tomorrow sans Taylor. And
then so now, yeah, everybody, the Draft and the Superman
will be coming in July. Here, we just have to
get together because some people are sick and some people
are putting stuff on the calendar being on I digress.
That's what happens here at Geek First, but thank you
very much to tuning in next. I'm not sure a
weekly Geek was supposed to be me and Taylor on
the Tuesday, but I might see if because if Kirklin
and Dylan are film better, maybe this was this is
a GV episode, but maybe we'll do the four well yeah,
well no, I meant maybe we'll do like a format
cast then because we were supposed to four tonight, so
you know, try to make up for that. So we'll
see what's happened. It's busy time, but thank you everybody
in live chat. Thank you to everybody that's listening after
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we got Me and the Gimmick Boys or Junior our
Gmode season. We'll have yeah, dynamic duels out, you got
other stuff, so yeah, thank you very much. Promise you
we're here for it's next. It'll not be worn