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<v Speaker 1>Get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, are you ready for it? Friday nights and it

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<v Speaker 2>is October four, Friar's Day, and I am actually live

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<v Speaker 2>here at Ocelli dot Com. We did not, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>rumors of our demise, go out of business. Uh like

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<v Speaker 2>like the platform that fired me a couple a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of long years back. Huh, it's been a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years since I was fired by a radio station. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>they seem to have gone out of business, but maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we should double check on it. We are not out

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<v Speaker 2>of business, thank god, because of all of you who

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<v Speaker 2>have kicked in and kept us rolling, including tonight's executive

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<v Speaker 2>producer mister Wilson. Anyways, just saying, just saying, uh, here

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<v Speaker 2>we go Friday night open mic and you're the star

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. And thank god, because every I had

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<v Speaker 2>this week, except for my discussion with Larry Hancock, blew

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<v Speaker 2>up on me. Mike Swanson is doing another week. The

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<v Speaker 2>Weenie dogs are protesting in the background in case you

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<v Speaker 2>don't hear them, I do. Anyways, here it is everything

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<v Speaker 2>else blew up in my face. Next week though, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a former Russian military guy to tell us how

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven was. Uh, well, it was nuclear. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see how that goes and some other things. I

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<v Speaker 2>might even do video with that guy, just just because

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<v Speaker 2>it's got a popular YouTube channel in two languages. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>it is what it is, It was what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's Friar's Day night. My co host p

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<v Speaker 2>Pete is with me and you can join us. Three

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<v Speaker 2>one nine five two seven five zero one six. Thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not puking today, by the way, I've been vomiting

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<v Speaker 2>all week, another problem with the stomach. But hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hear that crap? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Three one nine five two seven five zero one six.

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<v Speaker 2>And after I check in with my co host, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get right to the calls, because I know I got

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<v Speaker 2>at least one, even though my computer tells me or

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<v Speaker 2>one of my computers barely working tells me it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a safe connection for me to use my computer to

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<v Speaker 2>access the switchboard. But I do have it working, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can call in three one nine five to two

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<v Speaker 2>seven five zero one six, And I promise I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be coming at you pull speed all night

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to shut up and hear from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Three one nine five two seven five zero one six

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<v Speaker 2>all the way up to ten pm approximately Eastern when

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<v Speaker 2>we begin the Age of Transitions with Aaron Franz. Anyhow

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<v Speaker 2>be Pete, let me check in with you before we

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<v Speaker 2>go to callers. Like I said before, now I'm repeating

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<v Speaker 2>myself Alzheimer's why not. How you doing this week? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>How good?

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<v Speaker 3>It's been hectic.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been trying to stay on top of all this

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<v Speaker 4>crap going on with the storm relief.

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<v Speaker 3>In the western part of the state.

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<v Speaker 4>Since you know the government's not going to sew up

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's it's been a weird week.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to know. Oh wait a second, I

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<v Speaker 2>need I need to interrupt you, B Pete. I just

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<v Speaker 2>need to interrupt you for one second. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that right before I turned it over to

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<v Speaker 2>you to speak that Kevin from Florida said, in quotes,

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<v Speaker 2>B Pete, Well, he said, first thing he said, Be Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>is going to say, in quotes, it's been a hectic week.

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<v Speaker 2>He predicted what you were going to say five seconds

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<v Speaker 2>before it came out of your mouth. I got the message.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of that? I guess he's been

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention. But the reason why he said he says,

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<v Speaker 2>b Pete is going to say it's been a hectic week.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says that a lot. This is the third week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I get it. What he's saying is every

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<v Speaker 2>third week you absolutely say exactly, it's been a hectic week.

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<v Speaker 2>So one to three he says, exactly, you say it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a hectic week. So I don't know. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>telling you somebody is playing the home version and keeping

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<v Speaker 2>track of what you say, and sorry, go ahead. I

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<v Speaker 2>just thought that was funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Every third week I have to go through all these

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<v Speaker 4>inspections with agencies. So yeah, every third week is a

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<v Speaker 4>hectic Greeks usually the only week out of the month

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<v Speaker 4>where I've got five Mondays.

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<v Speaker 2>So not his imagination, it's actually a pattern. It is perfect. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So that with the Sportman Hall, we we held up

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good. We didn't get a whole head of a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of rain off of it. But I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>places where I used to cover when I worked for

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<v Speaker 4>Damn Safety up the mountains, and these places are just demolish.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's imagine twenty feet walls of.

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<v Speaker 4>Water coming down every damn creek, every run, every river.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just madness up there, and if you had the

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<v Speaker 4>government screwing everybody in this storm relief.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever actually lived in a shore town, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, like a town that's on the shore of

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean. Have you ever lived in one of those places?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because as you're describing, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I've lived on the coast of North Carolina when hurricanes

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<v Speaker 4>are hit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's I've been through hurricanes.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been through mountain hurricanes, mountain hurricanes with a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of mountains.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they had the same thing with you go. Only

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<v Speaker 5>when Hugo came in, it ran up.

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<v Speaker 4>It came in from Charleston to hit the mountains and

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<v Speaker 4>ran up the Appalachians. This one came from your neck

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<v Speaker 4>of the woods straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, and when it took that hook to.

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<v Speaker 4>The west, it's now perpendicular to the mountains. And what

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<v Speaker 4>happens is you get what's called an upslope rain. These

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<v Speaker 4>winds were gusting at one hundred miles an hour and

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<v Speaker 4>it was forcing it up the mountain. And as that

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<v Speaker 4>air goes up in elevation, it gets colder, and it

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<v Speaker 4>gets the water gets denser, and it forces the water.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have a direct current to a water source

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<v Speaker 4>like the ocean, and that same thing happened, was you go,

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<v Speaker 4>same thing happened with Sandy Hook.

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<v Speaker 3>Or Hurricane Sand, Hurricane Sandy from your neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get that source of water going up those

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<v Speaker 4>mountains perpendicular to it and then it's going up the

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<v Speaker 4>elevations of five thousand feet or more And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>produced They had areas up there.

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<v Speaker 3>They got over thirty inches.

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<v Speaker 4>Of rain, well on top of twelve to fifteen inches

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<v Speaker 4>of rain just.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of days before. See now it was the big.

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<v Speaker 2>Boblem right now. Twice you said my neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Now one time he's referring to it coming up from Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>where I actually lived. Then when he's talking Hurricane Sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking about my neck of the woods. It's coming

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<v Speaker 2>from that direction. Because I think Hurricane Sandy crashed on

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey first, isn't it? Because those storms come together and

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<v Speaker 2>just like New York, New Jersey do.

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<v Speaker 6>It.

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<v Speaker 2>That was wild. You know why though, I brought this

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<v Speaker 2>up because I'm thinking to myself, nothing is more brutal

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<v Speaker 2>than when you're on the ocean and you watch this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff come in and everything, you know, like there we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have so many rivers. In Jersey. There are rivers,

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<v Speaker 2>but not well.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you're on the ocean, yeah, the storm comes in,

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<v Speaker 4>the eye wall passes, you get a much more rain

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<v Speaker 4>and everything everything's flat.

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<v Speaker 3>You expect flooding.

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<v Speaker 4>But in the mountains, when you take thirty inches of

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<v Speaker 4>rain and you constrict it to these river valleys, in

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<v Speaker 4>these creek valleys and these runs, yeah you're in a

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<v Speaker 4>constricted water course. So the water can't go out like

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<v Speaker 4>it does at the coast. When those floods come in

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<v Speaker 4>on the coast, they spread out over flatland. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>from from the coastal drop in North Carolina to the

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<v Speaker 4>actual coast.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a lot of elevation change.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, see, it didn't do that in Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that in Jersey. See way you.

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<v Speaker 4>Coachline inse is different than down here along North Carolina's

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<v Speaker 4>coast right or Florida's coast. But when that thing went

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<v Speaker 4>across you, guys, it picked up more moisture and just

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<v Speaker 4>slammed through South Carolina in the up and we still

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<v Speaker 4>had they had one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hundred and ten mile hour gusts on the top of

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<v Speaker 3>some of these ridges.

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<v Speaker 4>So you had little tornadoes and that spurring off of

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<v Speaker 4>these things with all the damage. But imagine a flood

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<v Speaker 4>coming in from the ocean. You get this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you get the storm surge comes in and then it

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<v Speaker 4>recedes in the mountains. You're confining all this water to

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<v Speaker 4>say a creek that was ten foot across when it started,

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<v Speaker 4>throw twenty feet of water in it and have it

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<v Speaker 4>come down and slam into everything on those elevations.

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<v Speaker 3>The velocity of water coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Down, it was taking houses up there and busting them

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<v Speaker 4>off their foundations right into the next one, like Domino's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But what is a guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I heard an interview from a guy up in

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<v Speaker 4>a section down below Lancing, I think it was, and

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<v Speaker 4>he said, that house over there, we know where it

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<v Speaker 4>came from.

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<v Speaker 3>It came from right up there.

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<v Speaker 4>That house behind it, we don't know where it came from.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're thinking it came from two miles upstream.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>This is on a creek. This wasn't one of the rivers.

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<v Speaker 4>This was just on a creek and it was moving

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<v Speaker 4>water like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, But the wicked thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is wiped out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, parts of assphill Or wiped out, Avery County Mitchell County,

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<v Speaker 4>Lancing was effected.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just a mess all and even into eastern Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing right now, the wicked thing nowhere, the wicked, the

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<v Speaker 2>wicked thing about Jersey, though, before we get straight, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to the callers pretty soon here, because

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<v Speaker 2>we've already been out of ten minutes talking weather. But

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<v Speaker 2>I want to find out what's on everybody else's mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to talk about the weather, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're calling in anything on your mind, do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. We could talk politics, news, something local

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I don't care. I got a I got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of friends out there that are very interested

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<v Speaker 2>in squirrels. You want to call up and tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about the squirrels, let's go. I don't care. But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, and not that I don't care, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care which topic you select. You can do anything

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Call in three one nine, five two seven

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<v Speaker 2>five zero one six and I'll try not to keep

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<v Speaker 2>anybody on hold this long. But here's the deal. In Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wicked is that you don't just get slammed and drink.

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<v Speaker 2>You think it drains back out. Yeah, it does. But

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<v Speaker 2>what's terrible is that water comes in boom and crashes

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<v Speaker 2>across the shore. Now what happens is it might break

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<v Speaker 2>off part of the shore and now you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>brand new island. Okay, it'll create an island off of

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<v Speaker 2>in and destroy a whole bunch of stuff, sweep things away.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it doesn't carry a house. It turns it

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<v Speaker 2>into crap, destroys all these sea walls, all this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>prevarication and barrier crap. They set up the wall in Seabright.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to turn on the TV, uh back when

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<v Speaker 2>graduated on and on, one of the rituals any storm

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<v Speaker 2>season in Jersey is turn on the TV. Which one

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<v Speaker 2>of these stations had somebody at the wall in Seabright

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<v Speaker 2>because Seabright is gonna fall. It's just every year, who's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna cover the crash of the sea wall in Seabright.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a guarantee that And then they would go

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<v Speaker 2>to what they call Sandy Hook. Now it's not the

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy Hook where you got the elementary school in the shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an island sometimes and sometimes it's connected by land

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<v Speaker 2>to New Jersey. This part of the coast called Sandy Hook, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sandy Hook turns into an island or gets completely

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<v Speaker 2>these places where we've actually got revolutionary war stuff there

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<v Speaker 2>in crap anyway. But what's fascinating is they always cover

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<v Speaker 2>and will either Now something was an island. Now maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's got a land bridge because it's totally gutted something

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<v Speaker 2>right next to it and turned it into a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new bay. And the shoreline changes. So every year the

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey shoreline changes. You have new islands, you have islands

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<v Speaker 2>that have been eliminated, okay, like a superstorm Sandy almost

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<v Speaker 2>took away, like put what they call Long Beach Island

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<v Speaker 2>and what they call Good God where the sawmill is Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember the name of it, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>very very famous area down by the shore. Anyway, A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't know that it's actually you got

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<v Speaker 2>to take a bridge to go there because it's an

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<v Speaker 2>island off of the shore totally covered. Two of the

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<v Speaker 2>that is on and there's actually a long little island

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<v Speaker 2>that runs, you know, perpendicular to the shore. Pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>put that whole island underwater, and I mean people live there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's businesses, boardwalks. I mean pretty much it's gone. It

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<v Speaker 2>was that much flooded. It was like New Orleans flood

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<v Speaker 2>except the little islands off the coast of Jersey. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that was part of the damage. Then that storm searge

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<v Speaker 2>came so far in you're talking about, you know, going deep,

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<v Speaker 2>deep into the into the inland. You know, water running

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<v Speaker 2>down main Street in some places, and you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>just Ocean Avenue getting crushed or swept away or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like seeing a lot of places, but I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>you're watching the waves roll in and crash, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>three four blocks in to the to the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>away from the shore, where people have houses built right

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<v Speaker 2>there on the shore, you know. And then there's other

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<v Speaker 2>places where they're about a mile away from the shore

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<v Speaker 2>and they think they're safe and they got waves crashing

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<v Speaker 2>on their front porch from the ocean. Now that comes

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<v Speaker 2>and goes, and then the high tide the low side,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're constantly on a swivel trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>when this thing's coming in and out. And it comes

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<v Speaker 2>in and out constantly and gets you know, absolutely insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's trying to track it during the time when

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<v Speaker 2>these things are in storm search. Now, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>that anywhere else in the in the country on the

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<v Speaker 2>East coast, being on the coast of you know, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>when there was a storm. I forget which one, but

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a storm there and I was there and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even a major, massive, you know, big headliner, but

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the way the storm rolled and I was like, geez,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like nothing. And then I watched it in

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina at one point. I've kind of been to

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<v Speaker 2>it near where there's a coast here in Georgia, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched it in Florida, and I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen no other state. And I know that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a New York, New Jersey area thing. And the

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<v Speaker 2>people in Connecticut claimed they saw it, but they never

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<v Speaker 2>did because they're you know, they're Connecticut. They really I

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<v Speaker 2>wish they wouldn't include it in the Tri State area.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate Connecticut, but I mean, but not only do I

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<v Speaker 2>hate it, but it's never really part of the action

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the nature of the of the

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<v Speaker 2>area or anything else. All that Connecticut has a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot more money than any of the other

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<v Speaker 2>places except for New York City itself, right, But when

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<v Speaker 2>you take a look at it, and you look at

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<v Speaker 2>people not living in the city, but living in parts

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<v Speaker 2>of New York that are, you know, away from Manhattan

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<v Speaker 2>and the boroughs and all. When you go away from there,

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<v Speaker 2>these people know there's something very particular running like say,

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<v Speaker 2>from I don't know, Boston or that area, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>up in that area, all the way from Maine, let's say,

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<v Speaker 2>to New Jersey along the coast, there's something very special

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<v Speaker 2>about the way it just like attacks and recedes and

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<v Speaker 2>attacks and recedes. It does not happen like that on

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the East Coast as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you agree with that? I mean, you don't see

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<v Speaker 2>that where you are, right, I mean, just real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to the callers, would you agree that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different animal what I'm describing, apart from what

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<v Speaker 2>you see in North Carolina, South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it's a different geology involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I get that, but I mean, to me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>wild the difference. It's like, you know, in some ways,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it because it goes away. You get a

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee it's going to go away. The floods don't sit

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<v Speaker 2>on you for a month, you know. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, it's a constant attack and recede and attack

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<v Speaker 2>and recede, you know what I mean. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the major difference.

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<v Speaker 3>We had some pretty long ones here.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a few hurricanes where we had water standing

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<v Speaker 4>for about two months.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's well, but.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. The water will sit there for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, you know, in Jersey, it'll form a

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<v Speaker 2>new bay, you know, maybe. But but what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>is the water doesn't really stay. It just comes, rip

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<v Speaker 2>shit up and goes, you know, just back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>and back and forth. And that to me is exhausting

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<v Speaker 2>trying to live through that and trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>batten down the hatches and prepare for it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's funny to watch people who have like boats

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<v Speaker 2>where they live near the you know, near the ocean,

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<v Speaker 2>and the next thing you know, is they've lost control

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<v Speaker 2>of their their boats. Are you know, two towns over

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<v Speaker 2>they floated over to somebody else's town when when the

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<v Speaker 2>tide came in. You know, to me, that's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the last major hurricane we had, you know where

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<v Speaker 7>Newburn is, that was the only time in my lifetime

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<v Speaker 7>and other people I've talked to that remember Newburn being landlocked.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was no way to get to Newburn except

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<v Speaker 3>by boat.

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<v Speaker 4>And now that was pretty catastrophic to that area.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to me, it looks like a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is built there. It seems like to take that in

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<v Speaker 2>Newburn right, the way those bridges are and everything, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well yeah, the bridges are meant to take it

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<v Speaker 4>and all. But there was so much flooding in Newburn

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<v Speaker 4>downtown itself. In fact, we were walking around while we

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<v Speaker 4>were doing the cleanup. We were staying at a riverfront

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<v Speaker 4>hotel which the first floor was just gutted, so they

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<v Speaker 4>were rebuilding it, and we would walk over to a

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<v Speaker 4>state place about three blocks away, and as we're walking,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like the old fort towns, you had houses

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<v Speaker 4>that were built up on semi basements where three or

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<v Speaker 4>four feet of the basement would be above street level

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<v Speaker 4>and you walk down steps to go underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got to thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they built them that way, so when the

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<v Speaker 4>tides would come in with hurricanes, the water could actually

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<v Speaker 4>flow through underneath the house and it would be no problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, these massive brick structures with pillars and all

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<v Speaker 4>to hold them up, and it was designed underneath of

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<v Speaker 4>Downtown was designed to flood and then let it back

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<v Speaker 4>out all over time with new construction, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>those things were gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm walking around thinking, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Those guys weren't too stupid way back then when they

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<v Speaker 4>were building stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I understood how things work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing. I was looking at a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff in newbern like a lot of the bridge

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<v Speaker 2>constructions where it was kind of a pain in the

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<v Speaker 2>ass because you got to like, you know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to ascend here. You go up a ramp, you go

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<v Speaker 2>up another ramp, and people are bitching, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it going, you know, I wish I had this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in Jersey because if I did, I would actually

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, because bridges get wiped out in Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>during the storm season. It's like, oh, well, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>get to that part of Jersey now because it's locked.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way. The bridges are all gone, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>if they had done this thing with this gradual there

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<v Speaker 2>would have been space for the water to go. You

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<v Speaker 2>would have only lost part of the ramp, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, And you wouldn't have lost access to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of areas where they decided, look, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to elevate this part. It was like weird elevations of

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<v Speaker 2>bridges and stuff that was kind of a pain in

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<v Speaker 2>the ass to some people. But I'm thinking to myself, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's why you still have a bridge after storm season,

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<v Speaker 2>because in Jersey, I watched those things get knocked out.

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<v Speaker 4>The problem in Newburn, Yeah, the problem in Newburn is

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<v Speaker 4>you've got.

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<v Speaker 3>Two river systems coming together. You got the Trent River

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<v Speaker 3>and the News River.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you want to go from Newburn to any

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<v Speaker 4>other direction, you basically got to switch your roadway in

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<v Speaker 4>three different directions. And that was what they did with

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<v Speaker 4>the elevated bridges. Now, some of the older bridges back

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<v Speaker 4>up near Vansboro and places like that, you know, out

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<v Speaker 4>of the way. Yeah, they got washed out. County roads

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<v Speaker 4>got washed out. But Dot is going to put a

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<v Speaker 4>good job in fact, Highway twelve, which runs down the

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<v Speaker 4>outer Banks, for years and years, every time a storm

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<v Speaker 4>came through, even in Northeastern it would break the road.

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<v Speaker 6>They'd have to go back.

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<v Speaker 3>Pump been saying, build a road back. So finally they.

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<v Speaker 4>Built about a two almost three mile section causeway over

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<v Speaker 4>the sound.

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<v Speaker 3>And now if the.

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<v Speaker 4>Road washes out, they'll fix it when they get around

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<v Speaker 4>to it. It's not imperative to get traffic north and

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<v Speaker 4>south all the way down to.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ferry of Hatters, right, like Kevin is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're trying to fight the elements and find, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>cheap efficient ways to do it, but also make it

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<v Speaker 4>safe so that they're not out there constantly having after

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<v Speaker 4>they score them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Ken, Yeah, Kevin from Florida is also telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that where's this thing here? I just had it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying that, Well, let me let me just answer this.

425
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<v Speaker 2>I'll make sense of it. The deal is that, Yeah,

426
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<v Speaker 2>every you're never out of work in New Jersey is

427
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<v Speaker 2>what he Yeah, basically in New Jersey, this is true.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Right in New Jersey and New York. You're never out

429
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<v Speaker 2>of work if your job is to build roads. Rebuild

430
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<v Speaker 2>road and also take care of the bridges. You constantly

431
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<v Speaker 2>have large construction projects there because of this. I mean,

432
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<v Speaker 2>at one point, I was thinking, it's almost a business

433
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<v Speaker 2>plan for some of these guys where they're like, okay,

434
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<v Speaker 2>so we'll have this much of our income for our

435
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<v Speaker 2>big you know heavy construction. We're definitely going to be

436
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<v Speaker 2>repairing you know, storm damage. And it's like, you know,

437
00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:22.440
<v Speaker 2>when are you going to do that next year? Like

438
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<v Speaker 2>they ran for it. Yeah. Good.

439
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<v Speaker 4>Look at Jersey and New York and look at how

440
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<v Speaker 4>many sections of those major urban areas have been reclaimed

441
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<v Speaker 4>from the water.

442
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<v Speaker 3>You know, they started projects back in the eighteen.

443
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<v Speaker 4>Hundreds where they were they were putting up seat piles

444
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<v Speaker 4>and filling so I mean, look at d C.

445
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<v Speaker 3>It was built on a swamp.

446
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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's what they know.

447
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<v Speaker 4>Mankind has always been stealing away from the ocean to

448
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<v Speaker 4>try to build things, and how Mother Nature's coming back

449
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<v Speaker 4>with a vengeine.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing is some of those short towns

451
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<v Speaker 2>where people were freaking out like, oh my god, the

452
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<v Speaker 2>whole town's gone. I'm looking at it going yeah, but

453
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<v Speaker 2>here's what they did. They turned around and they made

454
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<v Speaker 2>a landfill there like in the seventeen or eighteen hundreds,

455
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<v Speaker 2>and basically they created a garbage dump. They took and

456
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<v Speaker 2>through the garbage pretty much into a swamp area to

457
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<v Speaker 2>like reconstitute the swamp area, and then they built on

458
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<v Speaker 2>top of it. There's whole towns and stuff that are

459
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<v Speaker 2>pretty much built on top of what was an old

460
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<v Speaker 2>school garbage dump, right, And I'm like, well, but before

461
00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.279
<v Speaker 2>that it was a swamp. They filled it with garbage,

462
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<v Speaker 2>then they filled it with land, and they created the landfill.

463
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<v Speaker 2>And like my school, there was a big notice up

464
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<v Speaker 2>on my high school that basically said, you know, this

465
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<v Speaker 2>school and the junior high school they were built on landfills.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Like they you know, like they actually admitted it. They

467
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<v Speaker 2>publicly posted these places were built on landfills, and that's

468
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<v Speaker 2>what they were. It was like my whole I mean,

469
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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of apropos. My high school and my

470
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<v Speaker 2>junior high school were built on top of dumps, you know,

471
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<v Speaker 2>And we used to make a lot of jokes about it.

472
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<v Speaker 2>But the truth is there was like wholes in Jersey

473
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<v Speaker 2>along the shore that at one time were partially just swampland.

474
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<v Speaker 2>And they were swampland because they were close to the ocean.

475
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<v Speaker 2>But they weren't in the ocean, you know, so at

476
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<v Speaker 2>one time, like you said, it was probably part of

477
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<v Speaker 2>the like that whole thing with that place called Sandy

478
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<v Speaker 2>Hook that I said, right, They were making remarks there

479
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<v Speaker 2>that like, look, we have Native American structures or Native

480
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<v Speaker 2>American remnants here. When the Native Americans lived here, they

481
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<v Speaker 2>had to come to Sandy Hook by boat, and it

482
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<v Speaker 2>was actually four different islands, you know, they were saying

483
00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:35.519
<v Speaker 2>back then. Nowadays it's pretty much one island with a bridge,

484
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 2>and it partially touches the land, but every time a

485
00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>good storm comes through, no longer touching the land, only

486
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:43.720
<v Speaker 2>the bridge, so the bridge gets wiped out. You got

487
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the same kind of problem like you had Newburn. And

488
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>these bridges are not built for floods because, like I said,

489
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<v Speaker 2>the flood never stays. The flood comes and it goes,

490
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<v Speaker 2>and when it goes, it sweeps back whatever the hell

491
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<v Speaker 2>it wants, and you might end up with a whole

492
00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:01.480
<v Speaker 2>bridge washed into the ocean goodbye, you know. And that's it.

493
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<v Speaker 2>And we used to watch that on TV. Like I said,

494
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<v Speaker 2>every year the wall in seabright, they rebuild it. It

495
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<v Speaker 2>would fall, they rebuild it, it would fall. I really

496
00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I saw like only them skipping a year or two

497
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<v Speaker 2>here or there. For like when I look back in

498
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:17.359
<v Speaker 2>the history when I was a kid, and it's like

499
00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.440
<v Speaker 2>they've been doing this now for like one hundred years.

500
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<v Speaker 2>They build the wall in Seabright, it gets destroyed. They

501
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:25.839
<v Speaker 2>build it, it goes down. Anytime you see storm coverage

502
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.880
<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the country from New Jersey, take a look,

503
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<v Speaker 2>and when you see what's going on in Seabright, here's

504
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<v Speaker 2>the funny part. We all used to watch it because

505
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<v Speaker 2>it would give us a good idea about what was

506
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<v Speaker 2>going to happen to the whole coastline of what they

507
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<v Speaker 2>call Mammoth County and most of Ocean County. We knew

508
00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>what would happen to that whole coastline. If that seawall

509
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>crashed real bad and it was like brutal, It just

510
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:49.880
<v Speaker 2>went down like it was nothing, like it was a

511
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<v Speaker 2>sand castle, and a wave came in, then we knew

512
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<v Speaker 2>that we were about to get pummeled everywhere on the

513
00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>coast in Mammoth and Ocean County. If that thing stood

514
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<v Speaker 2>up for a while and didn't fall down for a

515
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 2>couple of days pounding, then we'd say, you know what,

516
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.359
<v Speaker 2>we stand a chance. We're only going to have some erosion.

517
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe there'll be truckloads of sand got to

518
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<v Speaker 2>come in and replace the beach at some point, you know,

519
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of towns or whatever. But that's it.

520
00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:19.759
<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be that bad. It was always

521
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<v Speaker 2>a good barometer to show you what was coming for

522
00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the county. I'm just saying, so, anyway,

523
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<v Speaker 2>enough of our storm talk. Somebody's probably going Jesus. These

524
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 2>guys are definitely old men because they're talking like it's

525
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<v Speaker 2>the Weather channel, So the hell with this. Let's get

526
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<v Speaker 2>away from the weather. Maybe because it's up to him

527
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>A nine one six area code. I think I know

528
00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>who this is. But you're live, and hopefully I didn't

529
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>put you asleep. But all the storm talk, you've been

530
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<v Speaker 2>on hold like a half hour. How you doing.

531
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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing better than either guy. It wasn't bored, bung

532
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:58.359
<v Speaker 6>bit I found You're off. Your rant was highly entertaining.

533
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<v Speaker 6>They're all fair pretty get that.

534
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<v Speaker 2>I was talking really freely off air, wasn't I sorry?

535
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh yeah, it was that. That was that was entertaining. Man,

536
00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:14.680
<v Speaker 6>I chuck, I enjoyed it. You they might eat me

537
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:20.319
<v Speaker 6>just weather all, we're all out there. Yeah, my my,

538
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<v Speaker 6>I've just been horrified looking at the devastation of Helen.

539
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:26.640
<v Speaker 2>And Uh.

540
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<v Speaker 6>I enjoyed Dpat's weather reports and this description of the

541
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 6>typography and the som and I've never been to North Carolina,

542
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 6>so I find it he kind of paints a really

543
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 6>good picture. Yeah, and I understand the whole spectical we talked. Yeah,

544
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 6>that's that's kind of the story of my life with words, right.

545
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<v Speaker 2>So, Janny, I lived there briefly, But I lived there briefly,

546
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Danny in North Carolina. But I got to tell you,

547
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>b Pete. I've gotten a lot of remarks about b Pete, Like,

548
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the most positive stuff about him is, you know, firstly,

549
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:01.839
<v Speaker 2>just skip the people that want to yell at me

550
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 2>that I'm that I'm a jerk because I uh, you know,

551
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>because him and Jimmy James, I'm mean to them for

552
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.839
<v Speaker 2>some reason. Uh. And somehow they've grouped him now with

553
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 2>jim with JJ. He doesn't have a fan club yet,

554
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 2>but uh, and apparently Jimmy James does. But the the

555
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.799
<v Speaker 2>nicest comments I get about BP who are like, you know,

556
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>people that are positive about my regular show, but they're like, oh,

557
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and your co host, by the way, It's like, okay,

558
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.079
<v Speaker 2>either I'm gonna get hit with a bomb or they're

559
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna love this guy. And maybe I'm I'm a dick

560
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and I should just give him a show, uh one

561
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>or the other. And uh, usually the biggest thing, one

562
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.640
<v Speaker 2>of the big things is always you know what, I

563
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>love it. BPTE always gives a weather report and tells

564
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<v Speaker 2>us how his week was at work. It's like he's

565
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 2>my Uh, he's like my virtual friend on the radio,

566
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, and uh, oh, you know positive thing to report,

567
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is you know, generally speaking, we don't

568
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 2>have a great, big live audience, so I never take

569
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the live audience very seriously, except on Friday night, because

570
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like, who knows who's going to tune in, and

571
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 2>it might be almost nobody, because most people listen through

572
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the podcast and the overwhelming majority, I mean like ninety

573
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>percent literally or ninety five percent even our listeners on

574
00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, not the live show. But this week I

575
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 2>did the show with Larry Hancock just to kind of

576
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 2>let people know that his book was out for pre release,

577
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 2>The Oswald Puzzle and that people could order it, and

578
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>we went through. I read the chapter list and discussed

579
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 2>why the book is different and everything else, and my

580
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>podcast was the only thing Larry did. And apparently I

581
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.559
<v Speaker 2>got a few more live listeners than I can see,

582
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>because Larry instantly had a bit of a surge on

583
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 2>sales for his book, and you know, I was the

584
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>only one who promoted it, so rather all of a

585
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>sudden right after the broadcast or starting during the broadcast,

586
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Apparently people were listening to me and Larry talk because

587
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>people are buying his book, and I'm really happy, and

588
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>I hope you guys do, because it's a very different

589
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.599
<v Speaker 2>book that's going to go in depth on Lee Harvey Oswealt.

590
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, enough of the Kennedy stuff. I'm sure we'll

591
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>touch upon that if Jimmy calls in or others might

592
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>want to call in about it, But I don't want

593
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 2>to get stuck on anything that's on my mind. Back

594
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.039
<v Speaker 2>to it, man, what else is on your mind. I'm

595
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>glad that you endorse, though, and appreciate Ppeat's weather reports

596
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, because I do, and quite honestly, I think

597
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 2>you can learn a lot about North Carolina, even if

598
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you've never been there. Just from listening to BPD often

599
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>tells us lots of educational tidbits about North Carolina. So

600
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like a good travel ad for them.

601
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, go see North Carolina. BP told you about

602
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things there, So I think it's great anyway,

603
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 2>glad to hear that. So, Danny, what else you got

604
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind?

605
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 6>Well, I did hear that. Larry not always a life listener,

606
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.960
<v Speaker 6>but I did hear the podcast, but sounds interesting. Anytime

607
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 6>you have Larry hand costs, I find I learned something.

608
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 6>I really like both of you to put your heads together,

609
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 6>as your ability to critically think. And you know, I

610
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<v Speaker 6>don't have anywhere near the expertise of the Kennedy assassination

611
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:28.480
<v Speaker 6>that I've been fascinated for decades, but just your insight

612
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 6>is just tells me how to kind of always get

613
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<v Speaker 6>centered and look at how to investigate that subject matter.

614
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<v Speaker 2>I try, you know what, I try not to Just Danny,

615
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 2>real quick, I try not to tell you what to think.

616
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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? What I do is try

617
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<v Speaker 2>and provide you with a guide to say, look, this

618
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<v Speaker 2>is how you can explore this and look at it

619
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<v Speaker 2>from a common you know, a very street level kind

620
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of like you don't need a massive education or to

621
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 2>spend you know, all your hours studying everything. Here's stuff

622
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 2>that's very accessible to anybody who has a level of interest.

623
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<v Speaker 2>So you can apply your level of interest to what

624
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I try to present, no matter what your you know,

625
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>what your level is, from novice to to you know,

626
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a serious, exalted sort of expert. Right, I try and

627
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.400
<v Speaker 2>just give you tools to explore this, as opposed to

628
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 2>telling you what to think. Here's what the story is.

629
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you what it is, because I know

630
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<v Speaker 2>I don't do that. I try and say, look, here's

631
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<v Speaker 2>how you can go through it. Here's how you can

632
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:35.119
<v Speaker 2>explore it. Here's what you could learn. And here's a

633
00:31:35.119 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of points of easy access. Here's a couple of

634
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>points of slightly more difficult access. And think about it

635
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 2>this way or think about it that way. And therefore

636
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>I try and give you ways to break it all down,

637
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 2>even when it's a very complex, you know, sort of

638
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>subheading on it. Do my best, and that's the people

639
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I love to present, which is why Larry's so great,

640
00:31:55.920 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>very responsible, very direct, well researched and he's very thorough

641
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>about what it is he's laying out. Even when we

642
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>were talking about the picture section, the you know, the

643
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>photo section of the book, that's going to be very

644
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 2>intentional and a tool in and of itself to be

645
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:16.079
<v Speaker 2>able to learn from just the photo section this time. Uh,

646
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>and he's got very responsible people making sure all the

647
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>proper legal clearances are in place, which, by the way,

648
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 2>the majority, and I'll tell you this dirty little secret

649
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.440
<v Speaker 2>majority of JFK authors, no matter who their publisher is,

650
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>really are sitting there waiting for a freaking avalanche of

651
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.759
<v Speaker 2>lawsuits because there's one hundred times these people use constantly,

652
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.519
<v Speaker 2>as a matter of fact, stuff that they don't have

653
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 2>proper ownership of or proper permissions to utilize in their books.

654
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.079
<v Speaker 2>They have tons of images that they pretty much share

655
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>around and nobody pays attention to who the copyright owner is.

656
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, I utter the wrong words in the wrong

657
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 2>sequels on my podcast. I'll get hit for a copyright

658
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 2>notice on a song if I happen to recite lyrics

659
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:10.359
<v Speaker 2>the wrong way. These guys literally use other people's photographs

660
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 2>that they do have a you know, a standing proper

661
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>claim on, and they don't care. Now, why am I

662
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>bringing all this up Not for the minutia the Kennedy assassination,

663
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>mind you, but to remind you that there is this

664
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 2>whole world of ownership over images and likenesses and things

665
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:36.400
<v Speaker 2>like that that are literally shaping your media experience out there.

666
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 2>People like me don't have the ability and the time

667
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and the resources to acquire all these things legally. So

668
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 2>our two choices are, you know, leave things alone and

669
00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>don't utilize you know, imagery or things that could be

670
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, hit for content violations. Either don't do it

671
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 2>at all, or do it and take the risk that

672
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 2>somebody tries to take you down through it, or tries

673
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to sue you, or tries to put you out of

674
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 2>business even for utilizing their stuff or somebody else's stuff

675
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.239
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And I got to tell you, every if

676
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 2>you pick up five books on the Kennedy assassination, I

677
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 2>can almost assure you that four out of those five

678
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>books have potential lawsuits in them because people are utilizing

679
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 2>things once again that they don't have ownership over and

680
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>they don't have proper permissions for. And that's been a

681
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>plague on modern contemporary history, but one especially in the

682
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy assassination, I'm telling you it does affect news agencies

683
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>because again, unless you have a lot of resources, you

684
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>don't have the ability to utilize a whole lot of

685
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff that somebody who works for Time Warner or Comcast

686
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 2>or you know, Disney or any of those companies, they

687
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>just pass it along to their legal department, it gets

688
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 2>handled done. I can't do that. I don't have time

689
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>for that, I don't have money for that. So what

690
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is, even in the case where it's like

691
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.199
<v Speaker 2>anybody could be a journalist and citizen journalism is important

692
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>and it gets the truth out and all that, the

693
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 2>truth is we're either handcuffed or we're awaiting dangerous waters

694
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to this stuff, one way or another.

695
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 2>So that's a guarantee, and I'm pointing it out in

696
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the Kennedy genre, in the JFK assassination genre, it's there

697
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like a plague. But the truth is this actually does

698
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>affect all media you consume. When it comes to information

699
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 2>and the sharing of and ability to relate information in

700
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>the news slash information stream that's out there, this is

701
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>actually affecting everything, whether you know it, you see it,

702
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>or even the people involved see it or not, it

703
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>is part of the sort of damocles and also part

704
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 2>of what's affecting people's access and everything else across the board.

705
00:35:56.599 --> 00:35:58.679
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's an important point to make, Danny,

706
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sorry to go there, but I think it's necessary.

707
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 2>And again, Larry has taken the time to really do

708
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>it right, and even he might have been guilty at

709
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>certain points of being a little sloppy about these things,

710
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 2>because it's just kind of acceptable and has been given

711
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 2>to be acceptable in a lot of places in the

712
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>JFK world, except when occasionally there are certain people whose

713
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 2>names I'm not going to name, get a bug up

714
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 2>there behind and decide to start going after people, and

715
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 2>they actually do, and those stories are usually not told

716
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>in public because they're literally sealed by the lawsuits. Okay,

717
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.840
<v Speaker 2>so I happen to know that it does exist, and

718
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't even tell you. Look at this, I can't

719
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 2>tell you because I can't afford the lawyer to deal

720
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>with the response. If I did see what I mean

721
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 2>right then and there, your ability to hear information is affected.

722
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Danny just just wanted to point that out,

723
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's important. But maybe Aaron Fronz will

724
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>touch on something like this later. I think he might actually,

725
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, back to you and your thoughts.

726
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, yeah, no, no, I appreciate that because I've

727
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>always sat there and thought, why, like in a lot

728
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of news stories, sometimes they're repeating like they have like

729
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>film footage, it's catalog, and it may not even it.

730
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 6>May be kind of loosely benefited, you know, you know,

731
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 6>kind of related to the topic they're talking about. That's

732
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 6>like I've seen that image before. You know, they might

733
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 6>be using that now and thinking that, yeah, there's legal reasons,

734
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 6>it might be just something because they got to put

735
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 6>together a story right away. So that makes a lot

736
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 6>of sense. But one of the thoughts that got to

737
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.119
<v Speaker 6>me this week thinking about not only the storm, but

738
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was the good and bad and ugly

739
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 6>Jimmy Carter President, Jimmy Carter just celebrated this hundredth birthday. Yeah,

740
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 6>and what a mildstone. And I was in high school

741
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 6>in his administration. I remembered him being kind of elected

742
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 6>because the aftermath of the Watergate Nixon and you know,

743
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:10.920
<v Speaker 6>I just remember his campaign. It was Jimmy two. I

744
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 6>never voted for him.

745
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that was more of a get rid of Ford.

746
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 2>That was more of a let's get rid of Ford,

747
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 2>because look at him. He's part of the uh, He's

748
00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 2>part of all the people that went bad. He was seen,

749
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 2>as you know, and rightfully so, part of the establishment

750
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 2>that was corrupt and needed to move on. Right. I

751
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 2>mean in seventy six, I'm four years old, so I

752
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 2>was very little. But my father, as I famously said

753
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:37.920
<v Speaker 2>on here, taught me to read newspapers then, so you know,

754
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 2>I was definitely in on it, but not you know,

755
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>concerned with politics at four, come on, but I was

756
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>enough to remember that. Now, that's interesting. You were in

757
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 2>high school, so you were, you know, again not voting,

758
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 2>but becoming more aware of it right then. And it's

759
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 2>pretty wild to see he's one of the one of

760
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 2>the presidents still holding on, still alive, you know.

761
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll tell you what if if I ever get

762
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I've got.

763
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Diagnosed with something and I get sent to hospice, I

764
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 4>want them to send me where he's been for the

765
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 4>past year.

766
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, Because he's been on hospice now for over a year. Right,

767
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's like you know, most people I've ever

768
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>known who've got in the hospice. You know, they go in, Uh,

769
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.559
<v Speaker 2>you give him a month, you know what I mean? Okay,

770
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>so this is the month they're gonna die because you're

771
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 2>on your way out when you go in to hospice.

772
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, as far as I've ever seen with anybody

773
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I've ever personally known. But yeah, he's been on that

774
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that deathbed now for over a year, right, I mean, Danny.

775
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 3>What.

776
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 6>Exactly? Yeah, he's been I think it's been almost two

777
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 6>years they've had him in the hospice.

778
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe right, cancer he's been in for nineteen months.

779
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh according to stories, nineteen months. Be pe. What's

780
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 2>your source on that, by the way, AP or something?

781
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:58.400
<v Speaker 3>People dot com?

782
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 2>People dot com? Okay, fair enough, they're probably right. Okay,

783
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>fair enough, Danny, go.

784
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:10.719
<v Speaker 6>Ahead, Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I'd have some experience of hostus.

785
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 6>My father when he had a pin created cancer. We

786
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.000
<v Speaker 6>brought you know, I was talked to bring houstus and

787
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 6>it was kind of whatever we got the hospice group got,

788
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 6>it was kind of a disaster, and I ended up

789
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 6>taking care of him the last three weeks myself prior

790
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:28.119
<v Speaker 6>to his death.

791
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I just well, most of the time they're pretty good,

792
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 2>but sometimes they're disastrous, and you just wanted to take

793
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>it out of their hands because you're like, this is

794
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, at least let his last little time on

795
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>earth be you know, be comfortable and with some dignity,

796
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>and you knew you would do that. Where they weren't right.

797
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 6>Right, It was just it was just a chaos and

798
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 6>there was just a lot going on that year and

799
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 6>my mother, my mother didn't do very well with it,

800
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 6>and then I had My mother had a stroke and

801
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 6>I ended up she had the string with her stroke

802
00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 6>was her inability to eat.

803
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 2>My apologies, b p Abb take over for me for

804
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a minute. You to talk to Danny because I got

805
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>to step away from the mic. I apologized, But you

806
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:11.480
<v Speaker 2>were saying, Danny that your your dad needed what happened

807
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 2>to he wasn't eating or your mom wasn't he Where

808
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 2>were you at there? I got that mixed up.

809
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 6>My father stopped because we knew he was in evil.

810
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 6>My father had pink greated cancer, so it was just

811
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.000
<v Speaker 6>a matter of time. And my mother had a stroke,

812
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:28.119
<v Speaker 6>so it affected her ability to eat. But they put

813
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:32.559
<v Speaker 6>her on cop on hospice. It was about two years ago,

814
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 6>but she got kicked out in the hospice, she started

815
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:39.000
<v Speaker 6>eating and and she's doing amazingly better. I mean, it

816
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 6>still affected her cognitive ability, but they basically the hospices

817
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 6>she doesn't need anymore. She's doing fine. So so who

818
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 6>knows how it was that.

819
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's probably the accepted more than norm My mom

820
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 4>went in halfway she lim foma, and she was in

821
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 4>the hospital for her like a month and a half.

822
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.920
<v Speaker 4>They tried the last thing they could come up with

823
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 4>that chemo didn't work, so they put her in the hospice.

824
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 4>So I got a call from my brother and said, well,

825
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 4>they're moving her to hospice. This was on a Friday,

826
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 4>he said, And you know, her doctor said probably two weeks.

827
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 4>And when he got to hospice, he called me back

828
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 4>and says, well, their doctor says one week. I said,

829
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 4>she's not going to make it till Monday, And sure enough,

830
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Sunday evening, at six o'clock, she passed.

831
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>It was just.

832
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 4>They came in, they started giving her shots a morphine,

833
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:39.119
<v Speaker 4>and they came in on a more continuous schedule and eventually.

834
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 3>They just morphined her out.

835
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's the way hospice around here works nowadays.

836
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<v Speaker 2>I would appreciate it if it worked like that more often,

837
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 2>because I'll tell you the last time that I, you know,

838
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>kind of did counseling for a family, again as my

839
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 2>role as a minister, you know, spiritual counseling for a

840
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>family that was dealing with this. You know, it was

841
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>very hard. Certain people stepped in thought they could handle it,

842
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and then as time you know, went on, and this

843
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.280
<v Speaker 2>is only maybe six weeks, but within a couple of

844
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.679
<v Speaker 2>weeks the person who thought they were just fine to

845
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of manage the hospice circumstances, you know, it turned

846
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 2>out that they emotionally couldn't handle it. So, you know,

847
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I had to go through a whole thing advising them. Listen,

848
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's no shame in this. Let him bow

849
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>out of that. Maybe somebody else can step up and

850
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on everything. Since the whole family wants

851
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:33.679
<v Speaker 2>to track it. You know, you don't blame them, Why

852
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.159
<v Speaker 2>not set them for comfort? I wish more often be

853
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Pete honestly, that I heard somebody say something like they

854
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 2>just gave him the morphine until he was out, because

855
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 2>that would be a lot more merciful than a lot

856
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 2>of times I've watched personally where it's like they're not

857
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>going to make that move, you know what I mean,

858
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>they're really just keeping them hanging on. And to me,

859
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 2>even when the person is begging not to be there anymore,

860
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 2>especially if they're I mean, look, to me, that's the

861
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that's the right of anybody, you know what I mean,

862
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 2>you want to not be here anymore, I think you

863
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>should be able to take a package and go, you

864
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, because it's just logical. Listen, I'm

865
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 2>not going to live much longer. My quality of life

866
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 2>is crap. Let me go. But sometimes they're begging for it,

867
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>and the family sits there basically being guided to keep

868
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 2>them just barely hanging on for longer and longer, just

869
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 2>to squeeze every day out of the situation. And to me,

870
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it's no good for anybody. And if the person who

871
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>is you know, dying wants to check out today, I say,

872
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 2>let them go, you know, let them do that and

873
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>be done with you.

874
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 4>Now they've they've started to push over in Europe, in Canada.

875
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 4>Hell there, Canada is bumping off everybody they can just

876
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 4>to light and a load.

877
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm kind of overboard with it.

878
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope nobody thinks I'm being cruel about this.

879
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, I think it's much more merciful. You know,

880
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>if somebody's in a lite, you know, somebody's sitting there

881
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>living in that condition, and they know that, say they've

882
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 2>got Alzheimer's and most of the day they're out of it,

883
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and they know that, you know, they're aware of it,

884
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 2>but they can't do nothing about it. And then in

885
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.119
<v Speaker 2>a lucid state, they say, listen, this is enough of

886
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.039
<v Speaker 2>us already, I gotta go. I say that it is

887
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>a they're human right, and be much more merciful on

888
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>the overview to everybody. And again I've had to walk

889
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 2>people through this where it's just brutal after a little while.

890
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, certain children, I think they would do better

891
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>watching their parents go while they're still sorted together, not

892
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>pathetically finishing it out and just fading in that way

893
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.800
<v Speaker 2>where it's like for a moment there they sit and

894
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>go or are they dead? You know, when you start

895
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>questioning have they gone yet or not? And they keep

896
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 2>coming back, that's somebody who is definitely establishing a big distance.

897
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's the point at which look, it's already over

898
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.639
<v Speaker 2>you're just prolonging the process and the pain. I don't know. Again,

899
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>this is me from a morals standpoint, but I advise

900
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>people based on what the wishes of that person are. Usually,

901
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like I would encourage this,

902
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 2>I would encourage that, you know, and I've had to

903
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>do that. That's brutal.

904
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:18.239
<v Speaker 8>Switzerland allowed, i think, for legal euthanasia, and they just

905
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 8>arrested a bunch of people over the suicide pod that

906
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 8>this doctor created.

907
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 3>It uses nitrogen gas and you sit in this thing.

908
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 4>And apparently they put this thing out in the countryside

909
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.920
<v Speaker 4>somewhere and the family showed up and an American woman

910
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:41.559
<v Speaker 4>decided to end it, and the police arrested several people,

911
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 4>It says your Swiss police have arrested several people after

912
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 4>a controversial futuristic looking capsule designed to allow its occupant

913
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.679
<v Speaker 4>to kill themselves is used for the first time.

914
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 3>It's called the Sarco capsule.

915
00:46:56.480 --> 00:47:04.840
<v Speaker 9>And this is outrageous, was the person, Uh, yeah, you know,

916
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 9>and apparently people have been going over there.

917
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:07.719
<v Speaker 2>What is it?

918
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.440
<v Speaker 4>In Britain, it's called Digitas is the company you can

919
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 4>take you out, but it says here police in Northern

920
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.119
<v Speaker 4>Canton of South House and Border in Germany said so

921
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 4>called Sarco capsule have been deployed in the woods in

922
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 4>the municipality of Miershausen on Monday. So apparently they arrested

923
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 4>and whoever put it out there, they haven't given much details.

924
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Right now, I'm trying to find out what the woman

925
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 4>had they called her to want to Well all anyway,

926
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:43.360
<v Speaker 4>I just found these things that you know, they allow suicide,

927
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.440
<v Speaker 4>but now that they've created a neat device for it,

928
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 4>they're arresting people.

929
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Listen, if you can come up with you step in

930
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:51.760
<v Speaker 3>front of a train.

931
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but see that's the thing. I mean, look, if

932
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 2>you can come up with an easy way out for people,

933
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And again some oversight is required here. You know, an

934
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 2>objective person needs to step in and go, look, you know,

935
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is just more mental and they need to

936
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.360
<v Speaker 2>not do this. They're not making it, you know, in

937
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 2>their right mind. If somebody judges that they're not making this,

938
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, being of sound mind, then maybe you know,

939
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe there needs to be an oversight to determine that

940
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and make sure you know what I'm saying.

941
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, now that's the hang up In Canada.

942
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in Canada, the municipalities or the government decided they

943
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.760
<v Speaker 4>were going to euthanize some people mm hmm, and the

944
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 4>other people said, now wait a minute before you do that.

945
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, is what you're doing legal become a big

946
00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 3>mess up there.

947
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, but again my whole concern and this is

948
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.199
<v Speaker 2>why I don't trust our government. Like in look, in spirit,

949
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe in the death penalty, but operationally we don't

950
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>have a way that it can be put in the

951
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:53.440
<v Speaker 2>hands of a trusted you know, a trusted entity of

952
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 2>any kind to implement it. In my mind, I don't

953
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 2>trust the government, don't trust the courts to do this properly,

954
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 2>fairly and correctly. If I did, death penalty is not

955
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>an issue for me, it's then do it, you know.

956
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And in addition, euthanasia not an issue. If you have

957
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 2>somebody who is in pain and is only going to

958
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 2>look forward to pain and is on their way to dying,

959
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I think you have the right to go sooner and

960
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>retain dignity and retain anything else you want to retain.

961
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Go out on your own terms if you know you're dying,

962
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>especially but maybe there's even other circumstances. But I don't

963
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 2>want the government determining this. The government, you know, could

964
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>could possibly assist with oversight, but I don't want a

965
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 2>determination being made by a government agency or just some

966
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>government worker who shows up. Yeah yeah, sure, get it done,

967
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 2>check mark. You know, I know that wouldn't really happen,

968
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>but I mean virtually it does. Internally, the internal dialogue

969
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 2>might become you know, look, I got to get this done.

970
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's go. I got ten more cases today. I don't

971
00:49:59.679 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>need to.

972
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Think about it.

973
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 6>Though.

974
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 4>Look at look at when they came along with Obamacare.

975
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 4>That was one of the big arguments about you know,

976
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:08.400
<v Speaker 4>death panels. Well, you know, this lady's old enough, and

977
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:13.599
<v Speaker 4>she's got uh tycoon diabetes, she's got copds, she's got

978
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 4>liver failures, she's got kidney failures.

979
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 3>So you know, really we're not going to do anything

980
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 3>for and that was a big argument.

981
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 4>You know, Okay, well, then what do you do with

982
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 4>those people that the government says, well, we're not going

983
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.880
<v Speaker 4>to pay to try to make them better? Are you're

984
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.679
<v Speaker 4>going to make them Are you just going to torture

985
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:33.599
<v Speaker 4>them by by making them go through whatever it is

986
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 4>that they have. I mean, it's well, it's kind of

987
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 4>weird how our government wants to get involved in certain things,

988
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.360
<v Speaker 4>but they actually show no mercy at all in most

989
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:44.519
<v Speaker 4>of their decisions.

990
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Well that's ridiculous.

991
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing with these unwanted children sometimes where you know,

992
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 2>look they want to do this, this, this, this, But

993
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.119
<v Speaker 2>when it comes down to it, listen, who's going to

994
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 2>take care of that problem? Now? You know? Oh well,

995
00:50:56.599 --> 00:51:00.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, never mind that, you know it's bull So

996
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.199
<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is if you got somebody who as

997
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 2>a you know, as an adult or maybe even in

998
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 2>special circumstances, even as a child, if they can rationally

999
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.360
<v Speaker 2>basically say, look, my life is nothing but suffering, even

1000
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.519
<v Speaker 2>just the act of going on dialysis. I got to

1001
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:20.760
<v Speaker 2>tell you, if you're sickly overall and your only problem

1002
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 2>is you know, not your only problem is dialysis. Dialysis

1003
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 2>became an exhausting issue for somebody I knew. They basically

1004
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 2>after two years ago into dialysis and hoping that their

1005
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 2>kidneys could be you know, restored in some way. Once

1006
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 2>they were told now you're done the rest of your life,

1007
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you're on the dialysis, you know what, they started having

1008
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>a desire to go, and then they started doing things like,

1009
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe if I don't go to dialysis for

1010
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:50.360
<v Speaker 2>a week. I'll get sick enough and I'll die. And

1011
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 2>then they would come close to it and it didn't happen,

1012
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's and it becomes a whole mess. I say,

1013
00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 2>if they've come to that decision, being again of sound mind, clear, listen,

1014
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 2>all I'm going to do is supper let him go.

1015
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the day. I'm sorry, I've taken up

1016
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time here on you, but but this

1017
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 2>is a hell of a subject that you get started on.

1018
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how we got here, but I think

1019
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 2>it's an important one.

1020
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 6>What do you think, Well, I do think it's important. Well,

1021
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 6>we got talking to because Jimmy Carter being on BOSTA,

1022
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 6>so he started sharing our personal stories.

1023
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 2>And that's how it traveled in. Yes, so traveled there.

1024
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.159
<v Speaker 6>But one of the things that was on my mind

1025
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 6>about President Carter's is his presidency. I mean I kind

1026
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:43.440
<v Speaker 6>of traced it back, even though he may not have

1027
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.480
<v Speaker 6>been full board, but he was part of the father

1028
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.320
<v Speaker 6>it was a shift in politics, and it was he

1029
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 6>was the father of kind of neo liberalists and he

1030
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.719
<v Speaker 6>kind of started the you know, the deregulation, let's deregulate

1031
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 6>certain cources of our autonomy. And I was just thinking

1032
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 6>about his presidency. Even though my family was not Democrat,

1033
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:08.239
<v Speaker 6>they were never going to vote for a Democrat at

1034
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 6>that time in the household I was growing up in.

1035
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 6>But I mean, he he, I just think what a

1036
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 6>difference in his presidency. I mean, he had the base.

1037
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 6>I think he had to sell his his farming operation,

1038
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 6>had to put all his assets in a blind trust.

1039
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Well apparently he didn't have to. Apparently he didn't have to,

1040
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 2>but that was normal at the time to do that,

1041
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 2>to put yourself in a blind trude. That was that

1042
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.800
<v Speaker 2>was the what do they call that? The Uh, it's

1043
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:39.360
<v Speaker 2>not like legally you have to, but it's you know,

1044
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.039
<v Speaker 2>since it's common practice, it's what you do. Let me

1045
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 2>ask you something, since you mentioned your household, though being

1046
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 2>very anti Democrat, how did they you know, in general?

1047
00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:50.840
<v Speaker 2>What do you recall? I mean, how were they on forward?

1048
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Was more to joke to somebody who was on the

1049
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.599
<v Speaker 2>right wing or you know, was he just a joke

1050
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to more the Democrat side of things? I mean, obviously

1051
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 2>they were doing Saturday Night Live skits and all that, uh,

1052
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and he was a big joke out there. But I

1053
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 2>mean in a house where you're like, well, Democrats off

1054
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the table, because screw the Democrats. If you're in a

1055
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:13.840
<v Speaker 2>house like that. How did they feel about Ford as

1056
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.239
<v Speaker 2>you remember? Do you recall how that was for that

1057
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 2>sort of conservative household. Was Ford a good guy or what?

1058
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 6>I think it was more more of a neutral. I think,

1059
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 6>like with like saying like Nixon. I think my my,

1060
00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, the feedback I got a lot from my father,

1061
00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 6>and my father was real political. He was a conservative

1062
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.599
<v Speaker 6>Republican as all his life, a businessman, right, I mean

1063
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 6>we had the news on all the time, and he

1064
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:41.599
<v Speaker 6>came home for he was the you know news, So

1065
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:45.000
<v Speaker 6>I mean we were just kind of immersed with the

1066
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 6>news and his basic political views. But he would probably be,

1067
00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, at that time, probably be kind of very conservative.

1068
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 6>But I think in today's age he would be. You know,

1069
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.360
<v Speaker 6>he was very my father's principal. I think he was

1070
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 6>kind of neutral. I think down he was more of

1071
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 6>a Reagan, you know, Reagan challenged uh Bard in the primaries.

1072
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.679
<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, he was more of you know,

1073
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 6>his issues with Nixon was or he was paranoid. He

1074
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.320
<v Speaker 6>got he was part of the most powerful president. He

1075
00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:22.599
<v Speaker 6>wasn't all bad, but just when you're on top, you know,

1076
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 6>there's only one way down. So he was just kinda

1077
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 6>was his own demise, was his own doing, because of

1078
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 6>his own paranoid So he's.

1079
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:35.159
<v Speaker 2>So your your father. Your father today would probably be like,

1080
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, a uh, not an independent, but would be

1081
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:42.559
<v Speaker 2>seen as a middle of the road guy, like just

1082
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 2>barely just barely out of reach of what they call roos. Now.

1083
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't be conservative enough for the conservatives of today,

1084
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:54.280
<v Speaker 2>but he definitely wouldn't be a liberal either, So he

1085
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be Maga, and he wouldn't be Maga, and he

1086
00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be endorsing Kamalo right now, is what I'm saying.

1087
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 2>He'd be looking at this going, yeah, I'm not sure

1088
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:07.360
<v Speaker 2>what to do. But and then you know, maybe he's

1089
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the holdest laws and vote for Trump guy though, because

1090
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>it's still Republicans, so I gotta go down.

1091
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Maybe no, Yeah, Thord's biggest downfall was part of Nixon

1092
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 4>with a lot of Republicans. I mean that's what Ford

1093
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.519
<v Speaker 4>was okay to. He pardoned Nixon and then it's like,

1094
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 4>get this guy.

1095
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Out of here.

1096
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they had no qualm about the fact that

1097
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the guy had not been elected to be president nor

1098
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 2>vice president.

1099
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 4>You know, well, because Agnew when they I mean, they

1100
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:39.960
<v Speaker 4>were kind of in a lurch when Agnew got nailed.

1101
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 4>They had to find somebody, so they diverted to Ford.

1102
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.440
<v Speaker 4>And then when Nixon stepped down, Nixon the problem was,

1103
00:56:47.559 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that Ford knew that Nixon was set up.

1104
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.559
<v Speaker 4>Ford might have thought Nixon did something, But I think

1105
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.440
<v Speaker 4>if Nixon had ever gone to trial over what was

1106
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 4>done during Watergate, they'd have found out he was set

1107
00:56:58.760 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 4>up big time.

1108
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, John Deane.

1109
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that would have been revealed at

1110
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:05.400
<v Speaker 2>that time though, do you think it would have come

1111
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>out at that time?

1112
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 3>It would have been down the road.

1113
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 4>But but you know, to just automatically pardon Nixon, then

1114
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 4>you make Nixon look guilty and that you were seeing

1115
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 4>all the safe perhaps, And.

1116
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:19.599
<v Speaker 3>That's what ruined him with a lot of Republicans is

1117
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:20.599
<v Speaker 3>when he pared Nixon.

1118
00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you Carter had one event when Carter tried

1119
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.280
<v Speaker 4>to rescue our hostages and that whole thing went to

1120
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 4>crap in the desert.

1121
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 3>That kind of.

1122
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Sealed That's exactly if he had pulled that off. If

1123
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 4>if he'd have been able to pull that off, he

1124
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 4>might have won reelection.

1125
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 2>He would have won. I think he would have won

1126
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:41.599
<v Speaker 2>reelection if he had pulled that off. And that's the

1127
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.480
<v Speaker 2>thing about it. You know, It's funny because as much

1128
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.119
<v Speaker 2>as Oliver Stone has proven to be more and more

1129
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 2>of a fruitcake as time goes on, still I think

1130
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.159
<v Speaker 2>he's a great director, but I mean, he's proven to

1131
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>be way lost in the woods when it comes to

1132
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the way he used things. One thing he said during

1133
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the very first commentary they recorded for the movie Nick

1134
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:05.199
<v Speaker 2>is one thousand percent accurate and has turned out to

1135
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.159
<v Speaker 2>be prophetic, which is you know, he said, Look, at

1136
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the time, Nixon was like, you know, the boogeyman of

1137
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 2>political discourse and in you know, polite society. He was awful, right,

1138
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:19.280
<v Speaker 2>he was. He was terrible. He had to go unless

1139
00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 2>you were one of his defenders, you know. But he

1140
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 2>said that over time, what will happen is that history

1141
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 2>will treat him much more kind than any of his

1142
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:36.119
<v Speaker 2>contemporaries did. And even this first wave of people looking

1143
00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>at it from the contemporary historical point of view that

1144
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.239
<v Speaker 2>that history will be kinder to Richard Nixon than any

1145
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>of his contemporaries were or the media for sure. And

1146
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that's proven to be true that everything has

1147
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:55.159
<v Speaker 2>been a lot more kind to Nixon since he's been gone,

1148
00:58:55.199 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 2>since he died all that.

1149
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 4>So well, Also, enough stuff has come to life that

1150
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 4>was going on behind the scenes with the CIA and

1151
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 4>other agencies that you know, were pulling some trenanigans around

1152
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:09.159
<v Speaker 4>the world.

1153
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's the Watson you know, if you.

1154
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Look at when Nixon was coming up and what you know,

1155
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:16.159
<v Speaker 4>the only my.

1156
00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 3>Biggest complaint with Nixon was that he waited until his

1157
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.079
<v Speaker 3>second term to get us out of Vietnam. Absolutely could

1158
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:23.079
<v Speaker 3>have done that at first time.

1159
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. But the thing about it is, I still say

1160
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>though that Oliver Stone was one hundred percent correct when

1161
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.599
<v Speaker 2>he said that, you know, on that commentary.

1162
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Was the history has been much kinder than Nixon man

1163
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 3>was during this day.

1164
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And part of the reason is exactly what you

1165
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:40.199
<v Speaker 2>just brought up is over time, more things have come out,

1166
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:42.199
<v Speaker 2>it's come more to light. You know, Hey, there was

1167
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:47.519
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just Nixon running a criminal operation all by himself,

1168
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and how criminal really was it? And quite frankly, it

1169
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.000
<v Speaker 2>also echeres in my head that thing from the Frost

1170
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 2>interview where he kind of says, look, if the president

1171
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:58.760
<v Speaker 2>does it, it's not illegal. That's still ringing with me

1172
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 2>because of this, uh you know, giant Chevron decision that

1173
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 2>happened with the Supreme Court. That is effectively what they said,

1174
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, if the president does it, you just got

1175
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 2>to add one thing as an official act. It's not illegal, period,

1176
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's pretty much what they said. Anyway,

1177
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get deep into that because we

1178
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:21.159
<v Speaker 2>got other callers, So I want to put you on hold, man,

1179
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 2>but I also want to give you a chance to

1180
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 2>put a cap on all this. Or should I just

1181
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 2>go to next caller and try and get back around

1182
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.880
<v Speaker 2>to you.

1183
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:33.440
<v Speaker 6>What? Well, other than that, I have more, Yeah, go

1184
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:35.840
<v Speaker 6>go get another caller, because it's you know, I want

1185
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.199
<v Speaker 6>to share my term. But I got a lot of

1186
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:40.039
<v Speaker 6>thoughts about the Carter presidency and just kind of that

1187
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 6>sure what could have been, what should have been, and

1188
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:48.360
<v Speaker 6>some pivotal stuff looking at him in history. You know

1189
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:51.800
<v Speaker 6>that even some of the still just going on with

1190
01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.599
<v Speaker 6>the Middle East, you know, it's still going on today

1191
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 6>and it was it was in you know, Carter, the

1192
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 6>Carter some of the some of what was going on

1193
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.719
<v Speaker 6>at that time in the seventies, it's still going on

1194
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 6>today in the middle yeah, which is still yeah.

1195
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What you mean, what you effectively mean to say

1196
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>is we are still enduring what partially was set into

1197
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.719
<v Speaker 2>motion during the time Carter was in the in the

1198
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:20.079
<v Speaker 2>White House, right. I mean, that's effectively what you mean,

1199
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:23.159
<v Speaker 2>and I agree, absolutely, I agree. Part of what we're

1200
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 2>looking at today is based on, you know, mistakes or

1201
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 2>things that weren't mistakes at the time that became mistakes

1202
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 2>later during exactly that time period. Uh and quite frankly,

1203
01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:36.719
<v Speaker 2>there was a bunch of people, if you look back,

1204
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that were kind of telling you then that this was

1205
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.519
<v Speaker 2>going to be what it ended up being. Uh, so

1206
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:45.000
<v Speaker 2>on and so forth. So I'm gonna put you on hold,

1207
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to go on over to Jimmy James

1208
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.000
<v Speaker 2>and see what he's got on his mind. This stuff

1209
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:52.159
<v Speaker 2>might be right up, as Allie might not. I guess

1210
01:01:52.159 --> 01:01:56.280
<v Speaker 2>we'll see, because as for this show, I want to

1211
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.880
<v Speaker 2>hear from you. Three one nine five two seven five

1212
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 2>zero one six. That's the number to call, and Jimmy James,

1213
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:06.960
<v Speaker 2>what you got on your mind this Friday?

1214
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.840
<v Speaker 10>Oh boy, their friends.

1215
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.000
<v Speaker 6>I was watching a news.

1216
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:18.599
<v Speaker 11>Segment the boy did he kick me off? You have

1217
01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 11>much dancer for chuckle, Telly.

1218
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:26.079
<v Speaker 4>I have much to answer of your fellow New Jersey.

1219
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:31.199
<v Speaker 11>Yes much cancer. Go ahead, you and all the other

1220
01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:33.400
<v Speaker 11>New Jersey and devils.

1221
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 2>What about the New Jersey Devils? What about us? What's up?

1222
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Well?

1223
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 11>I was just, you know, my my own business, would

1224
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:54.239
<v Speaker 11>some clips from local stations, you know, and I caught

1225
01:02:54.360 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 11>on it started out, I just well before that, even

1226
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:06.320
<v Speaker 11>the Washington Post shops the pictures of the president of

1227
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:11.159
<v Speaker 11>the Longshoreman's Unions. I don't know what else to call

1228
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:17.840
<v Speaker 11>castle in New Jersey. He's got a seven car garage yacht,

1229
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 11>a Bentley. So anyways, then I watched this local yocal

1230
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 11>news clip.

1231
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 10>You know, if I'm talking.

1232
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 11>And this guy's sitting there out just flat out threatening

1233
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:38.679
<v Speaker 11>the people of the citizens of the United States. Yeah, well,

1234
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:40.880
<v Speaker 11>you know, in a few weeks, it's gonna be real

1235
01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 11>hard to get a car around here. It's gonna be

1236
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:47.199
<v Speaker 11>real hard to get toilet paper. Ain't gonna be a

1237
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:48.320
<v Speaker 11>lot of ship tickets.

1238
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I like, what the hell this guy think?

1239
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 10>He's the head of the damn Gambino family.

1240
01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 11>Threatening the people of the United states.

1241
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what you do with me? As they had

1242
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.079
<v Speaker 2>the long and by the way, the only local news

1243
01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:05.360
<v Speaker 2>that you could get out of Jersey would be News twelve.

1244
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:06.280
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

1245
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:10.159
<v Speaker 2>That's the only like established TV station that's in Jersey.

1246
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Everything else is either Philly or New York that carries this.

1247
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 2>But Philly or New York might come into Jersey to

1248
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:19.800
<v Speaker 2>talk to a guy like this. Was it News twelve?

1249
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.159
<v Speaker 2>By the way, you happen to remember.

1250
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 10>I can't remember this station. I just remember it's in

1251
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 10>New Jersey.

1252
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:32.960
<v Speaker 11>It had to have been because it's a local news.

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01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Crew, Okay. If it's a totally localized news crew, like

1254
01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:37.800
<v Speaker 2>not one of those ones you see out of New

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01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.320
<v Speaker 2>York or Philly, Okay, then it has to come from

1256
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:44.239
<v Speaker 2>New News twelve has been a it was a UHF

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01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>station years ago and somehow it has continued to survive

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01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>through all the cable incarnations. And it's like the only

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01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean WWR Channel nine is also New Jersey based. Uh,

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01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.320
<v Speaker 2>but they they half the time they count themselves in

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01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 2>New York station. So it's weird. Even though the broadcast

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01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.800
<v Speaker 2>tower and the facilities used to be in Secaucus, New Jersey.

1263
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:11.320
<v Speaker 2>No Lie Channel nine in New York. But the only

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01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:14.639
<v Speaker 2>thing that survived and has constant news broadcasts. And I

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01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:16.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know how they get away with this, but it's

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01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:20.760
<v Speaker 2>like CNN, but just for New Jersey is News twelve. Okay,

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01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's the weirdest thing now I can imagine. And

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01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, is this guy Italian? Because sounds

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01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.920
<v Speaker 2>to me like it's the guy who got the presidency

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01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:35.599
<v Speaker 2>of the Union because of Italian businessman and then also

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01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.920
<v Speaker 2>look on his finger for a freemason ring. Those two

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01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 2>things put together, boom boom. This guy is probably a

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01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:48.239
<v Speaker 2>guy who could literally stop cars from coming into the

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01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.519
<v Speaker 2>United States, who could stop parts from coming into the

1275
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 2>United States, who could control containers with a couple of

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01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:59.119
<v Speaker 2>phone calls and put people to stop working or to

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01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:02.800
<v Speaker 2>start making miss et cetera, et cetera, or to not

1278
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:06.960
<v Speaker 2>show up and get you know, some kind of green

1279
01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.599
<v Speaker 2>flu and green meaning that you're gonna have to make

1280
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 2>some payoffs in order to get the flu to go away. Okay.

1281
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:17.119
<v Speaker 2>And probably that's the guy who's sitting there going, you

1282
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:20.519
<v Speaker 2>know what, maybe you don't elect Trump and I and

1283
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:23.159
<v Speaker 2>I've already heard this, by the way, you don't elect Trump.

1284
01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Our unions are gonna do messed up things and we're

1285
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.280
<v Speaker 2>gonna cause you problems. This is being presented to people

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01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 2>in that area of the country. Is this one of

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01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:33.039
<v Speaker 2>those guys.

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01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:39.800
<v Speaker 10>He's definitely one of them guys. But I didn't know

1289
01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:41.360
<v Speaker 10>he added in for Trump.

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01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.119
<v Speaker 2>No, not in for Trump. He's backing them. See a

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01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:48.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of these union guys are back in Trump and saying,

1292
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't do the right thing, We're gonna

1293
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:56.599
<v Speaker 2>throw a monkey a monkey wrench in the works. And

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01:06:56.639 --> 01:07:01.320
<v Speaker 2>they could based on their con trolls of the unions.

1295
01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:04.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he sure could.

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01:07:04.679 --> 01:07:05.880
<v Speaker 10>He made that plane.

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01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, he speaking about it. Yeah, go ahead me, Pete.

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01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:16.079
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I've had nothing to say.

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01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I was listening to YouTube.

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01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was kind of hoping you had something to

1301
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:21.519
<v Speaker 2>chine in about it or.

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01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, the unions. You know, it's funny that

1303
01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.360
<v Speaker 3>some union's fireman's.

1304
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:32.719
<v Speaker 4>Union decided they're not going to endorse somebody. Another union

1305
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:35.280
<v Speaker 4>says we're not going to endorse somebody. You know, they

1306
01:07:35.320 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 4>do a poll of the of the teamsters and they

1307
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 4>find out that it's sixty percent Trump, thirty some are

1308
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.679
<v Speaker 4>percentt Kamala, you know, but it's the leadership that decides

1309
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.960
<v Speaker 4>who they're going to back, and I think it's very

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01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.360
<v Speaker 4>telling that and I find it frustrating.

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01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Like the Fireman.

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01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Association Union, we're not going to endorse anybody, Okay, So

1313
01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:58.800
<v Speaker 4>what you're telling us is you're not going to indorse

1314
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:02.599
<v Speaker 4>the person that you normally endorse because you go by party.

1315
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.639
<v Speaker 4>But it's so bad that you're not going to step

1316
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.159
<v Speaker 4>out on that limb and not endorse them. But you

1317
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:12.760
<v Speaker 4>can't endorse the other person. To me, that's just a

1318
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.320
<v Speaker 4>bullshit way out of it. That's just weaseling out of

1319
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.840
<v Speaker 4>the whole situation. The rank and file thinks one thing,

1320
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:22.000
<v Speaker 4>the management thinks something else. The management is getting rich

1321
01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:24.840
<v Speaker 4>to the hilt. I mean, these guys are land bearings

1322
01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 4>that run these damn unions, and you wonder where they're

1323
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.039
<v Speaker 4>making all the money. You know, it's kind of like AOC.

1324
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:32.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, she's making one hundred and fifty five thousand

1325
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:34.520
<v Speaker 4>dollars a year house she worked twenty nine million dollars.

1326
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:36.800
<v Speaker 4>Now you know it's only been there a few years.

1327
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:37.960
<v Speaker 4>What the hell's going on?

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01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:38.600
<v Speaker 6>Right?

1329
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 2>So?

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01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good, when you just started out, it was a

1331
01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:46.279
<v Speaker 4>good thing. I mean, yes, they did bring us some things,

1332
01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 4>some things that Kamala gives them credit for actually came

1333
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:53.079
<v Speaker 4>about through Henry Ford and other people that were doing

1334
01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 4>things to try to make their workers happy.

1335
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:58.560
<v Speaker 3>But unions at the point right now.

1336
01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:02.119
<v Speaker 4>They can pull the strike, all this thing, setting off

1337
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:05.840
<v Speaker 4>this strike until after the election, until inauguration day.

1338
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 3>If you think about it, all they do.

1339
01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:10.960
<v Speaker 4>All that does is signal to the world that, Okay,

1340
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:14.600
<v Speaker 4>management kind of deal with the Democrats. We're going to

1341
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.399
<v Speaker 4>back off. We're gonna let the election run because it

1342
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:22.479
<v Speaker 4>might hurt Kamala. So okay, we're gonna wait. If if

1343
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.479
<v Speaker 4>Kamala wins, we expect our sixty five percent increase and

1344
01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:28.000
<v Speaker 4>a couple other things come January.

1345
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 3>If we don't get it, then we'll strike.

1346
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.439
<v Speaker 4>And if Trump comes in, we're just gonna strike because

1347
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 4>we can.

1348
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Well see now, that's.

1349
01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:37.479
<v Speaker 3>All it comes down to. They're just delaying the inevitable.

1350
01:09:37.680 --> 01:09:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Now that may be true all what you just laid out,

1351
01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.439
<v Speaker 2>but you know it goes in both directions, believe it

1352
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:45.239
<v Speaker 2>or not, because I've heard the other way around. Now

1353
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe you that there's people that would back Kamala,

1354
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.439
<v Speaker 2>but they're not and all that. But here's the thing,

1355
01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:54.399
<v Speaker 2>there's the other side of that too, where they're going neutral,

1356
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's because their rank and file is different from them,

1357
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's slipped both ways. Like I said, I've heard

1358
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:05.199
<v Speaker 2>from the other side of you know, look, we're going

1359
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:08.479
<v Speaker 2>for Trump, and what happens is the rank and file

1360
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:11.479
<v Speaker 2>is going to go into a revolt because they definitely

1361
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:15.039
<v Speaker 2>outnumber the Trumpers in some places. Right, this is the

1362
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.119
<v Speaker 2>way I've heard it, and they're going, no, no, no,

1363
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:19.720
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to do that. That's not what the

1364
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:22.279
<v Speaker 2>majority of the union wants. So they drop back, don't

1365
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 2>endorse anybody. That way, they don't have the trouble from

1366
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:28.319
<v Speaker 2>their rank and file. They can keep business as usual

1367
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 2>rolling and keep their control, but they might actually have

1368
01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:34.279
<v Speaker 2>these guys revolt against them. Now it does go the

1369
01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:36.319
<v Speaker 2>other way too, where it's like, well, I want to

1370
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:39.399
<v Speaker 2>back Kamala, but most of my rank and file wants

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01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to back Trump. And if I piss them, if you

1372
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 2>turn around and you tell a rank and file that's

1373
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:47.319
<v Speaker 2>back in Trump, I'm going to back Kamala, they might

1374
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:49.319
<v Speaker 2>try and kick his ass out of there. Because they

1375
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:52.199
<v Speaker 2>do still have the power to remove these guys, some

1376
01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.680
<v Speaker 2>of them, not all, but some of them. So the

1377
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.760
<v Speaker 2>guys that could suffer you know, a let's have a

1378
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:02.279
<v Speaker 2>new election, uh situation and get a new head.

1379
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:05.520
<v Speaker 3>And yet yeah, well I'll give you credit for that.

1380
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:09.439
<v Speaker 4>But just as a side, I have yet to see

1381
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:15.159
<v Speaker 4>any poll of rank and file of any any union

1382
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.800
<v Speaker 4>that doesn't support Trump when you talk when you even

1383
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:23.039
<v Speaker 4>even that, well, unless you get to the National Teachers Association.

1384
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:27.239
<v Speaker 4>Other than that, I think for the most part, the teamsters,

1385
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:28.760
<v Speaker 4>the longshoreman.

1386
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I think rank and file they know they were better

1387
01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:32.319
<v Speaker 3>off for Trump.

1388
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:35.640
<v Speaker 4>And you can say what you want about Trump's economy

1389
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:39.600
<v Speaker 4>and how certain people benefited from it, but I mean

1390
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 4>the I R S had to come out and say

1391
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:46.279
<v Speaker 4>that with Trump's tax cups, every tax bracket benefited from

1392
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.600
<v Speaker 4>what Trump did. Now, a lot of people may not

1393
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.920
<v Speaker 4>have seen it. You've made the comment that you don't

1394
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:56.840
<v Speaker 4>know anybody that benefited from uh Trump's tax policies. But

1395
01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.039
<v Speaker 4>when the I R S has to admit it because

1396
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:01.960
<v Speaker 4>they can't argue again instant that it benefited all the

1397
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.520
<v Speaker 4>tax brackets. That's what the rank and file looks at.

1398
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:08.039
<v Speaker 4>They vote off their wallet. A lot of people in

1399
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.720
<v Speaker 4>management and the elite forget that, but here they can

1400
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:14.560
<v Speaker 4>file are going to vote based on their wallet regardless

1401
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:17.000
<v Speaker 4>of what the damn union does. And when they came

1402
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:22.359
<v Speaker 4>out with these rulings where automatic dudes are taken out

1403
01:12:22.399 --> 01:12:24.760
<v Speaker 4>of your paycheck and going to the union.

1404
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:28.760
<v Speaker 3>When that ended, you saw a lot of people.

1405
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Drop out of the unions simply because they were tired

1406
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.680
<v Speaker 4>of their money going to support things politically that they

1407
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:35.399
<v Speaker 4>didn't support.

1408
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:37.119
<v Speaker 3>But that's my big problem.

1409
01:12:37.279 --> 01:12:39.800
<v Speaker 2>That's my point about the non endorsement right there is

1410
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.479
<v Speaker 2>that either way it goes. But here's the one thing

1411
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I want you to consider, and then I'll leave it alone.

1412
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:47.760
<v Speaker 2>And maybe this is a you know, when you see

1413
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:50.439
<v Speaker 2>a neutral, it's really somebody who wanted to back Kamala.

1414
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's true. But I warn you about two things here. One,

1415
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:58.399
<v Speaker 2>if somebody's conducting this poll, take a look sometimes at

1416
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.000
<v Speaker 2>these polls and make sure that it's not the union

1417
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:06.199
<v Speaker 2>conducting the poll. Remember that because you think it's beyond

1418
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:10.079
<v Speaker 2>them to manipulate a poll number. They might want appearances

1419
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to be a certain way, don't forget from the top,

1420
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and they'll create a situation per result, you got an

1421
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.840
<v Speaker 2>independent polster, somebody's not the union conducting the poll. Remember

1422
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:24.680
<v Speaker 2>also that in order to get that union list, well,

1423
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:27.239
<v Speaker 2>they might be dependent upon or they might go to

1424
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>the union in the first place. Who has the ability

1425
01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to manipulate the list. Okay, so just keep that in

1426
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:37.199
<v Speaker 2>mind when you're looking at well, the majority of the

1427
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:40.239
<v Speaker 2>rank and file says this, well, according to who collected

1428
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the data and how they do it. One. Two. Just

1429
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:47.640
<v Speaker 2>because you get a result in a poll doesn't mean

1430
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:50.439
<v Speaker 2>that it's absolutely accurate. I mean, we question these polls

1431
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 2>all the time, no matter how they do them. I

1432
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:56.399
<v Speaker 2>got to tell you some of these national polls, I

1433
01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 2>don't actually know anybody who's taken a poll now in

1434
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:02.920
<v Speaker 2>a long long time, be pete, and I'm talking a

1435
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:07.239
<v Speaker 2>couple of decades. Whereas I used to know people that

1436
01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:10.000
<v Speaker 2>took poles got involved. I mean, hell, I was even

1437
01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.439
<v Speaker 2>a Nielsen family at one point, right, I knew people.

1438
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.880
<v Speaker 2>But there's been a time period here where I'm telling

1439
01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:20.399
<v Speaker 2>you there's been zero. I mean, I haven't even heard

1440
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:25.840
<v Speaker 2>of another individual actually taking a poll now past ten

1441
01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:31.159
<v Speaker 2>years at all. So you know, keep in mind if

1442
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.600
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at these polls, I'm just saying that results

1443
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:36.640
<v Speaker 2>or even the list of people that are able to

1444
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:42.000
<v Speaker 2>go after the poll might be played with a little. Okay,

1445
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.239
<v Speaker 2>so just keep that in mind as you go forward.

1446
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not always accurate because you know, look if I

1447
01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:50.359
<v Speaker 2>feed you, if I tell you go take a poll

1448
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:53.279
<v Speaker 2>of the people at work, you know, at your job,

1449
01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and you got ten people there, and I point you

1450
01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:58.319
<v Speaker 2>to five of them because I know how five of

1451
01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.520
<v Speaker 2>them are going to answer, and I give you the

1452
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:02.560
<v Speaker 2>five that are going to get the answer I want

1453
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you to get. You see what I'm saying. I'll just

1454
01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.079
<v Speaker 2>tell you these five people work here. Now, I didn't lie.

1455
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't include the other five people. I know

1456
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 2>they're going to answer a different way. You see what

1457
01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

1458
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I see exactly what you mean.

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01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, I'm just just pointing that out, not trying

1460
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:23.239
<v Speaker 2>to say that that's all there is to it, but

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01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I think it's a factor. Keeping in

1462
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 2>mind that's all anyway. Enough fact.

1463
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Political Yeah, political pole has been tossed out the windows

1464
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 4>here for a couple of years.

1465
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:37.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean they've been wrong what three election cycles now?

1466
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:41.119
<v Speaker 4>So well, yeah, some that we're hearing about state races

1467
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.279
<v Speaker 4>and that I really don't put much faith into them

1468
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:44.199
<v Speaker 4>at all.

1469
01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they found out that people were you know the

1470
01:15:46.720 --> 01:15:47.720
<v Speaker 3>old exit polls.

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01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Remember that's how they used to predict who's going to

1472
01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:53.000
<v Speaker 4>win based on exit polling after on the day of voting. Yep,

1473
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:54.840
<v Speaker 4>And they found out that a lot of people And

1474
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 4>this started back.

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01:15:57.520 --> 01:15:59.880
<v Speaker 3>I think back in Obama's second term.

1476
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:01.960
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people were coming out of the poling

1477
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:04.199
<v Speaker 4>and then they were given you know, different answers than

1478
01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:06.760
<v Speaker 4>the way they actually voted, and its chewed the exit

1479
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 4>polls so bad.

1480
01:16:07.960 --> 01:16:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the.

1481
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Other one time it was like Obama was gonna have

1482
01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.479
<v Speaker 3>a landslide. You know, it was hilarious.

1483
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Well that's the other problem is look, even in the

1484
01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:19.720
<v Speaker 2>case that they say everything is razor thin, da da

1485
01:16:19.760 --> 01:16:23.920
<v Speaker 2>da da da, Well, here's the truth. Depending on the situation.

1486
01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Somebody who let's just say you're you're a serious Trump

1487
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:34.279
<v Speaker 2>support supporter, and you don't want to identify yourself as

1488
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 2>a Trump supporter because you know, you've had people giving

1489
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:41.000
<v Speaker 2>you crap or the other way around. You don't want

1490
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.279
<v Speaker 2>to be a Kamala supporter because god, you know, like

1491
01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.520
<v Speaker 2>right now, I wouldn't go into the local coffee shop

1492
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:50.479
<v Speaker 2>and be talking right now, Hey, I'm I'm big on Kamala.

1493
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Anybody want to talk about it. I wouldn't do that

1494
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in the local coffee shop. You know, for the most part,

1495
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:58.680
<v Speaker 2>if people ask me, and the truth is, you know,

1496
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:01.319
<v Speaker 2>if they ask me, who are you voting for? I mean,

1497
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest. But if they go at me with

1498
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:07.439
<v Speaker 2>the whole yeah, well are you against Trump? I might

1499
01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 2>not answer that honestly in public here, depending on.

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01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:16.520
<v Speaker 4>How After what I've seen the last week in the

1501
01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:19.319
<v Speaker 4>response to government, I was going to set this election out.

1502
01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 3>But next week I'm going down and registry and I'm

1503
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:25.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna vote for Trump. See this is what I've seen.

1504
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean that when I found out that they blew

1505
01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:29.039
<v Speaker 3>all this.

1506
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Femal money on damn illegal immigrants, over a billion dollars

1507
01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:36.880
<v Speaker 4>just in the past what eighteen months, And now they're

1508
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 4>saying they don't have money for the next hurricane, that

1509
01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:41.960
<v Speaker 4>we don't have money now to take care of what

1510
01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:42.640
<v Speaker 4>we need to do.

1511
01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:45.680
<v Speaker 3>That's it I'm getting in this one. I'm voting for Trump.

1512
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Get this administration that we've got in here, these bluffoons

1513
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:50.439
<v Speaker 4>out of office.

1514
01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, I'm so sick of it. But among

1515
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:56.960
<v Speaker 2>a certain crowd or at a certain time, or because

1516
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.239
<v Speaker 2>you so don't trust the pollster. Some of these guys

1517
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.680
<v Speaker 2>are not necessarily given an accurate answer. Or I got

1518
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.960
<v Speaker 2>to tell you another story. I heard. Another theory I

1519
01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:09.720
<v Speaker 2>heard from somebody. Again, I've not heard from anybody who's

1520
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:13.279
<v Speaker 2>taken a poll, But another theory I heard is, you know,

1521
01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 2>some of these people, if they get polled and they

1522
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:17.640
<v Speaker 2>don't you know, it's a blind poll, somebody calls them

1523
01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:20.439
<v Speaker 2>up on the phone. There are some people that think

1524
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.439
<v Speaker 2>that these pollsters work for the government, and you know,

1525
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:26.439
<v Speaker 2>maybe some of them do, but they work for the government,

1526
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and they give them an answer based on the fact

1527
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:31.479
<v Speaker 2>that they think that the government will give them trouble.

1528
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, they might identify them and give them trouble

1529
01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:36.920
<v Speaker 2>depending on the answer they give them. Like if you

1530
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 2>tell somebody who's currently part of the Democrat administration, because

1531
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that's who's polling you, that you're a Trump supporter, they're

1532
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.479
<v Speaker 2>going to open you up the crap. So they might

1533
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 2>be saying, no, I support Kamala or I don't have

1534
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm undecided. That's another BS thing. I don't know anybody

1535
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.960
<v Speaker 2>who could possibly be undecided at this point, but they

1536
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:58.399
<v Speaker 2>might say undecided or they might say something else because

1537
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.079
<v Speaker 2>they think this person on the other end of the

1538
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 2>phone as a government agent and will give me a

1539
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.359
<v Speaker 2>problem if I say anything other than Kamala or neutral.

1540
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that's the theory that was thrown at

1541
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:11.479
<v Speaker 2>me that I thought was kind of sound as well.

1542
01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:14.520
<v Speaker 2>People are going to answer these polls for different reasons

1543
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:15.760
<v Speaker 2>in different ways, but they don't.

1544
01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Why would they have to go to that.

1545
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:22.600
<v Speaker 4>Every one of these major polling institutions tells you that

1546
01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:27.720
<v Speaker 4>they've heavily sided with the Democrat. They've overpolled the Democrats

1547
01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:29.880
<v Speaker 4>side of things. If they tell you that Trump's up

1548
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:31.840
<v Speaker 4>by two, now you can bet he's up by six.

1549
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:35.119
<v Speaker 3>If they tell you you Kamala is a head by four,

1550
01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:36.640
<v Speaker 3>she might be a head by two.

1551
01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:39.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's been the problem with polling the past

1552
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.600
<v Speaker 4>three cycles. Everybody has said, Look, they admit they overpoll Democrats.

1553
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:47.359
<v Speaker 4>When it comes to this, you're not even getting a

1554
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:52.039
<v Speaker 4>square result. I mean, they can't be I don't know why,

1555
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.840
<v Speaker 4>but they just refuse to be honest when it comes

1556
01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:58.920
<v Speaker 4>to things like that, right, the polling agencies and the media,

1557
01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:02.680
<v Speaker 4>it's all dude. I mean, there's an agenda out there

1558
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:04.239
<v Speaker 4>and they're following it to a team.

1559
01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:06.600
<v Speaker 3>They're doing everything they can in the gate. Kamala calls

1560
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:08.279
<v Speaker 3>for them goal line, but I'm just.

1561
01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:11.039
<v Speaker 4>Saying she doesn't have to do anything or say anything. Yeah,

1562
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:13.560
<v Speaker 4>but it's a good Yeah, it's a worthless nowadays.

1563
01:20:13.600 --> 01:20:16.439
<v Speaker 2>But that's my point, is that they're worthless because there's

1564
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:20.279
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of phantom results coming out for different reasons.

1565
01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:21.439
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just trying to.

1566
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Point out a union pole.

1567
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't when some agency sits there and takes up

1568
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:28.359
<v Speaker 4>a poll with union members asking how the rank and

1569
01:20:28.439 --> 01:20:31.479
<v Speaker 4>file feel, I put more credence into that than I

1570
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.399
<v Speaker 4>do these political polls that we're seeing.

1571
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well see all of them. I question because again,

1572
01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:39.880
<v Speaker 2>who is giving them the list? Right? And what list

1573
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.560
<v Speaker 2>did they give them so they could go because you're

1574
01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:43.840
<v Speaker 2>going to get given a list at some point BPTE, right,

1575
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:47.439
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is somebody decides who's on that list,

1576
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and maybe who's not, you know what I mean. And

1577
01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:52.960
<v Speaker 2>it could be just using the excuse of this person

1578
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:54.960
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to be bothered, so you know, take me

1579
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:57.960
<v Speaker 2>off all lists. Kind of person. They could just say

1580
01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:01.279
<v Speaker 2>that that person did that and boom, okay, don't know

1581
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:04.640
<v Speaker 2>contact on this one. You know what I mean anyway,

1582
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:06.600
<v Speaker 2>way dogs are speaking up good.

1583
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:11.600
<v Speaker 4>When when you're polling a group of individuals to see

1584
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:15.079
<v Speaker 4>what that body thinks, it's not like polling the general

1585
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:16.800
<v Speaker 4>public or the voting public.

1586
01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:18.039
<v Speaker 3>You know, And that's something else you have to pay

1587
01:21:18.039 --> 01:21:19.840
<v Speaker 3>attention to when the poll comes out.

1588
01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they voted likely voters, or they polled registered voters.

1589
01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:29.199
<v Speaker 4>They polled just the general public. You know, that has

1590
01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:32.319
<v Speaker 4>a lot of sway on the answer you're going to get.

1591
01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.279
<v Speaker 4>But when you set out to poll a specific group

1592
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:37.800
<v Speaker 4>like a union rank and file, I would think you'd

1593
01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:40.079
<v Speaker 4>have a little more control on it. I would trust

1594
01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:43.720
<v Speaker 4>those results more than I would from general political poll.

1595
01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:46.079
<v Speaker 2>And you know what I'm saying, I understand what you're saying,

1596
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:48.479
<v Speaker 2>but I'm just saying, in my mind, there's just as

1597
01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:51.079
<v Speaker 2>many pitfalls and ways to play with it. Like I

1598
01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:54.359
<v Speaker 2>saw one that said, you know, uh, pulling from I

1599
01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:56.880
<v Speaker 2>forget how they phrased it exactly, but basically it was

1600
01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>like people in the tech industry, We've just pulled people

1601
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:03.520
<v Speaker 2>that have tech jobs pretty much, and this is what

1602
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:07.119
<v Speaker 2>they thought. And then we pulled people that were restaurant

1603
01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:11.199
<v Speaker 2>workers right in a particular place, Like restaurant workers in

1604
01:22:11.239 --> 01:22:14.399
<v Speaker 2>the Northeast. Let's say it was that wasn't what it was,

1605
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:17.119
<v Speaker 2>but it was something like that. You know, where did

1606
01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.319
<v Speaker 2>they get that list? B Pete? You know what I'm saying.

1607
01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:21.399
<v Speaker 2>They had to have gotten a list of people. These

1608
01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:25.359
<v Speaker 2>are restaurant workers. Where was that collected and who edited

1609
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>it before it was given to the posters. Even if

1610
01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:30.399
<v Speaker 2>they're doing one hundred percent honest job and they got

1611
01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:31.600
<v Speaker 2>a dishonest list.

1612
01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:33.960
<v Speaker 3>They didn't have a list, or they didn't have a list.

1613
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.720
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they just walked out there restaurant and restaurants started

1614
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:37.560
<v Speaker 4>talking to workers.

1615
01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Well in some cases they did, but in other cases

1616
01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:43.840
<v Speaker 2>they mixed it where it's like, well this was taken

1617
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:46.800
<v Speaker 2>from us, you know, going place to place, people hear

1618
01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:50.359
<v Speaker 2>that they cut it off. But also they got some

1619
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:53.920
<v Speaker 2>of that list from somewhere else, and people stopped listening

1620
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:56.479
<v Speaker 2>at a certain point. You know what I mean. I'm

1621
01:22:56.520 --> 01:22:59.399
<v Speaker 2>just saying, the pitfalls are there no matter how you

1622
01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:02.520
<v Speaker 2>try and conduct these poles. And as far as reliability,

1623
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.199
<v Speaker 2>as of late, I haven't seen a good polling, you know,

1624
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:08.840
<v Speaker 2>not even Pew or any of those places that allegedly

1625
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:13.319
<v Speaker 2>do research. They're not even coming up with solid predicted poles.

1626
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:16.720
<v Speaker 2>So I'm saying to myself, there's different ways these things

1627
01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>are being skewed. In some cases, it could be the methodology,

1628
01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:23.199
<v Speaker 2>it could be the actual people they're sourcing, and in

1629
01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>other cases it could be the people themselves deciding. Like

1630
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I said, if they think in their mind, even though

1631
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:32.479
<v Speaker 2>it's incorrect, this is a government worker. Well they're connected

1632
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to this or that part of the government. So you

1633
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:41.199
<v Speaker 2>got to give Kam a point or say that you're undecided,

1634
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>so that you're not, you know, along with Trump, because

1635
01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>his whole thing, and many of his followers things, is

1636
01:23:48.039 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 2>we all have a target on our back, you know

1637
01:23:51.199 --> 01:23:55.039
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So anyway, I'll leave it at that. Jimmy, James,

1638
01:23:55.279 --> 01:23:57.399
<v Speaker 2>go ahead. I might take a break after letting you

1639
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>roll a little. Go ahead, Jimmy.

1640
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:04.560
<v Speaker 11>No, I'd agree with that.

1641
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1642
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:09.680
<v Speaker 10>I'd say polls are about as accurate as the weather podcasts.

1643
01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

1644
01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:14.800
<v Speaker 10>So they might, yeah, would not count on them.

1645
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.479
<v Speaker 2>They might go generally in the right direction, but watch

1646
01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the methodology and where they got it from, right, Uh.

1647
01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:26.760
<v Speaker 4>I think that.

1648
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:30.720
<v Speaker 11>Just writing down some stuff.

1649
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's been a couple of polls that were weird. Yeah,

1650
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>there's been a couple of polls that were weird recently.

1651
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy James, I gotta say, I just saw him go

1652
01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>by in a flash during a news story, you know,

1653
01:24:42.119 --> 01:24:45.479
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it's one of those we decided to pull, uh,

1654
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, students, a voting age of colleges, you know.

1655
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.159
<v Speaker 2>And I go, Okay, that really doesn't tell me all

1656
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>about your control group here, you know, or or your sample,

1657
01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>but okay, and some of those polls have come out

1658
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty weird, and I go, well, I wonder if somebody

1659
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:06.399
<v Speaker 2>just made that crap up, you know, let's just make

1660
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:09.359
<v Speaker 2>it sound nice and close so that we're not too

1661
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.279
<v Speaker 2>far off with they split it, and it's even remotely close,

1662
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:15.399
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like they'll say fifty seven

1663
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:18.279
<v Speaker 2>and they just think that it's a majority of people.

1664
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:21.399
<v Speaker 2>And meanwhile, I don't think they sourced anything. It's just

1665
01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:22.359
<v Speaker 2>it was what it was.

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01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:28.520
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I don't even know how I was thinking of

1667
01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:29.560
<v Speaker 10>this the other day.

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01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:30.760
<v Speaker 6>I just can't.

1669
01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:35.359
<v Speaker 10>I can't think of a way it would even.

1670
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:39.279
<v Speaker 6>Be possible to happen an actual accurate poll.

1671
01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>No.

1672
01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:45.239
<v Speaker 10>I mean, the days of landlines and three TV stations

1673
01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:47.159
<v Speaker 10>is so long gone.

1674
01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:52.279
<v Speaker 6>Right, The people you they literally, the all the people

1675
01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:55.039
<v Speaker 6>that take polls, long people get paid.

1676
01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:58.079
<v Speaker 10>To take those things long surveys and things is such,

1677
01:25:58.359 --> 01:25:59.680
<v Speaker 10>so everything slanted.

1678
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.600
<v Speaker 6>So I have not I just.

1679
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:07.159
<v Speaker 10>I have no idea. Who's been to one of the

1680
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:08.520
<v Speaker 10>presidential race.

1681
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:10.880
<v Speaker 11>None whatsoever.

1682
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I know who I want to wong, right,

1683
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:19.319
<v Speaker 2>But I gotta tell you I'm not feeling as uh

1684
01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>as strong about my prediction as I as I was

1685
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:26.600
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago. Even I don't know which way

1686
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>we're actually gonna go here?

1687
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:33.479
<v Speaker 3>You know what? What? What? Scoot weight? Huh what? Back up?

1688
01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know which way we're gonna go here. I

1689
01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:39.319
<v Speaker 2>almost feel like they're they're changing what's happening now for

1690
01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:39.760
<v Speaker 2>a year.

1691
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:44.439
<v Speaker 4>The Trump's gonna win, it's all been predicted, it's all

1692
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 4>set up. This is gonna fall by the wayside, and

1693
01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:51.720
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna be going to Trump's coordination.

1694
01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>No, I still no, I'm not weasling at all. I'm

1695
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.039
<v Speaker 2>just telling you I don't feel as confident. I'm still there.

1696
01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting weasley. I'm still there. Hey, no weasel here.

1697
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I am still confident that you know that we're there,

1698
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not as confident as I was I tell

1699
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you that it still looks like the fix is in

1700
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's going that way when it comes to certain

1701
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:17.159
<v Speaker 2>things like all that stuff I told you about the

1702
01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:21.199
<v Speaker 2>legal situation stand by at one hundred percent. But but

1703
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to exactly what they might pull here,

1704
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.119
<v Speaker 2>and I'm starting to weaken a little bit. Not by much.

1705
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to explain that, not by much,

1706
01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>but I don't feel that rock solid absolute that I

1707
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>did before. Uh, But I'm still with it. I'm still

1708
01:27:39.359 --> 01:27:42.680
<v Speaker 2>with the idea that this is exactly what was you know, planned,

1709
01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:46.319
<v Speaker 2>this is the way we're going, and I think some

1710
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>things are going to be obvious right there at the

1711
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:49.439
<v Speaker 2>end when it happens.

1712
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:53.439
<v Speaker 3>But hello, my name is Chuck, and I'm starting to waffle.

1713
01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Nah, it's not starting to waffle, just not feeling as

1714
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.439
<v Speaker 2>look you ever you ever like go? Hmm. I got

1715
01:27:59.479 --> 01:28:03.199
<v Speaker 2>a few doubt maybe, but still you're on the same train.

1716
01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:05.479
<v Speaker 2>That's where I'm at. I'm staying there.

1717
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:09.800
<v Speaker 5>No, you were so dead said that this whole thing

1718
01:28:09.960 --> 01:28:10.960
<v Speaker 5>was orchestrated.

1719
01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 3>What did somebody tell you to see music on you

1720
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:13.399
<v Speaker 3>or what?

1721
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just not seeing. I'm not seeing certain signs that

1722
01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:26.199
<v Speaker 2>I that I anticipated yet Okay, that's all is that

1723
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:29.439
<v Speaker 2>can turn around in the next two weeks and I

1724
01:28:29.439 --> 01:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>could be exactly right back to Nope, I'm done. It's

1725
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I thought it was. But I will be

1726
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.159
<v Speaker 2>rather shocked if it doesn't go the way I've always said. Okay,

1727
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>but they might make it close. They might make it

1728
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:51.079
<v Speaker 2>a close one or look close anyway. Yeah, but the reality,

1729
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the reality of the way people are, there's no way

1730
01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in hell that she should win. And the reality is

1731
01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking he should win. So you know, before I

1732
01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>thought they would steal it doesn't matter if he's got

1733
01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>ten percent of the vote, they're going to steal it

1734
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>from him. But at this point, well.

1735
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:08.159
<v Speaker 6>Think about this.

1736
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:12.119
<v Speaker 4>We've got what six states that we now have issues

1737
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:14.720
<v Speaker 4>with people being able to get to the polls. Yeah,

1738
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:17.760
<v Speaker 4>and North Carolina was a swing state. George is a

1739
01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:22.560
<v Speaker 4>swing state. Yeah, Florida, of course. But I mean, what

1740
01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:24.319
<v Speaker 4>are they going to do now We're two weeks away

1741
01:29:24.319 --> 01:29:27.119
<v Speaker 4>from early voting, and we've got we got people that

1742
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:28.479
<v Speaker 4>still haven't been able to make.

1743
01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Contact with the outside world yet now they're going to vote.

1744
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Now some places have already started taking their early ballots,

1745
01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>so and I'm telling you now, I think, Uh, there's

1746
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:43.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a whole lot of dispute and controversy, if

1747
01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:47.359
<v Speaker 2>you will, that's gonna happen everywhere, all over the place,

1748
01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:52.399
<v Speaker 2>no matter who allegedly wins. There's gonna be questions all

1749
01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:57.319
<v Speaker 2>over the map. I'm sure that one. No whapple, they're

1750
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:01.479
<v Speaker 2>no backing off, no softening. We're gonna see that no

1751
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>matter who wins. Okay, but uh, but the actual end

1752
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:11.239
<v Speaker 2>result of this, I still say it's it's still in

1753
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the pocket. It's still his. That's all there is to it.

1754
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just kind of not feeling quite as confident.

1755
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:22.239
<v Speaker 2>There's a few things missing here that I should be seeing.

1756
01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:25.960
<v Speaker 4>With the vial thirty thirty two days left, I think

1757
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:29.359
<v Speaker 4>until the election, we'll just see, how about to get

1758
01:30:29.359 --> 01:30:31.840
<v Speaker 4>the waffle meter out to see how you are next week?

1759
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Not know what's what's gonna happen here is I need

1760
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:42.520
<v Speaker 2>to see. Okay, one major let's call it a scandal.

1761
01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>There's one major scandal that has not dropped close to

1762
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the election like it should have. Yet I'm waiting for

1763
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 2>the major scandal.

1764
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Probably three or four didn't look don't think the Democrats don't.

1765
01:30:52.760 --> 01:30:54.479
<v Speaker 3>Have crap behind there, you know.

1766
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Up their sleeve that they're gonna be slinging against the

1767
01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:58.119
<v Speaker 4>wall in the next three weeks.

1768
01:30:58.119 --> 01:30:59.319
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna hear all kinds of crap.

1769
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, well, I don't know all I'm seeing so far,

1770
01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's funny because I saw children. I'm gonna put

1771
01:31:05.920 --> 01:31:09.479
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy on hold, and then we're gonna go to a break. Okay, uh,

1772
01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:11.239
<v Speaker 2>But then I want to get back around to whoever

1773
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:13.159
<v Speaker 2>and if anybody calls in New, I want to get

1774
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.199
<v Speaker 2>to him. Three one nine, five two seven five zero

1775
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:18.399
<v Speaker 2>one six. We're gonna take a break, but I'm gonna

1776
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>tell you this, I need to see one major, one

1777
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:28.479
<v Speaker 2>major scandal, okay, brand new something pulled against Trump and

1778
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>then a counter pulled against Kamala. Because I'm listening to

1779
01:31:31.920 --> 01:31:36.479
<v Speaker 2>children talk earlier, I took Frankie out to the store,

1780
01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>took him for a walk, and they started talking about

1781
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>whether they knew it or not, the election. What they

1782
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:49.199
<v Speaker 2>are is totally annoyed at the commercials on YouTube. That's

1783
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>what it is, okay, And they don't care about politics,

1784
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:58.399
<v Speaker 2>these kids. You know, Frankie's sort of aware, but he

1785
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 2>fell right in with him and they're just they're just

1786
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>kids talking about this, and they're annoyed as hell, and

1787
01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they don't care that it's a political commercial or nothing.

1788
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>They're sick of seeing the lady who's either delusional is

1789
01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>the word they use. She's either delusional or she's a liar.

1790
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's the end of her. Okay, that's all they're

1791
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:22.159
<v Speaker 2>taking from it, that lady I'm sick of see in

1792
01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:25.520
<v Speaker 2>her face. She's a delusional or a liar. That's the

1793
01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:31.920
<v Speaker 2>end of her. Okay. And and and Trump, he doesn't

1794
01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:35.359
<v Speaker 2>make any sense, and he wants to uh, he wants

1795
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to see he's telling us about people eating dogs and

1796
01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>he's out of his mind. Meanwhile, it was cats, I think.

1797
01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>But he's he's telling people about eating dogs and ducks.

1798
01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:48.439
<v Speaker 2>It was cats and geese. But you know in Ohio,

1799
01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:52.199
<v Speaker 2>of course, Ohio. That is literally what they're taking away

1800
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:57.119
<v Speaker 2>from their annoyance with the commercials on YouTube. What do

1801
01:32:57.159 --> 01:32:57.600
<v Speaker 2>you think of that?

1802
01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:05.000
<v Speaker 3>BP, I can understand the annoyance, you know.

1803
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:09.279
<v Speaker 4>I just don't understand how media companies can take money

1804
01:33:09.319 --> 01:33:12.239
<v Speaker 4>for putting blatant lies on TV as often as they do.

1805
01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>They're an election season. I've never understood that.

1806
01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:20.159
<v Speaker 4>There's no there's no ethics left in politics, plain and simple.

1807
01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I love the fact that people are and I'm

1808
01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>not going to name which party, but you do know

1809
01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:28.399
<v Speaker 2>there's been ai manipulation of audio and video and everything

1810
01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>now right on. Yeah, more than one can.

1811
01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>But these ads that they're running, this is all Kamala.

1812
01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:38.880
<v Speaker 3>It's her words. She said it a thousand times.

1813
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:41.399
<v Speaker 4>And it's just the part I hate is I'm up

1814
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:43.359
<v Speaker 4>at four o'clock to get ready to go into work

1815
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:45.840
<v Speaker 4>and that's when they run all these damn things back

1816
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:48.560
<v Speaker 4>to back. You see the same commercial, you know, six

1817
01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:51.800
<v Speaker 4>times in a thirty minute news podcast, and plus it's

1818
01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:55.159
<v Speaker 4>the same two commercials, one for Trump, one for Kamala,

1819
01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:58.239
<v Speaker 4>but one for Trump, one for Kamala right, two.

1820
01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:01.680
<v Speaker 3>For sports betting maps. Yeah, but that's all political.

1821
01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Sports betting, political political sports betting. It does like that

1822
01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:05.239
<v Speaker 4>for three hours in the morning.

1823
01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not. But that's not the way YouTube and

1824
01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:10.560
<v Speaker 2>TikTok are running. I'm telling you there is a ton

1825
01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>of manipulated stuff out there where they're putting words into

1826
01:34:14.800 --> 01:34:17.359
<v Speaker 2>everybody's mouth. And by the way, if you want to

1827
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>look at the two main candidates for the presidency, both

1828
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.720
<v Speaker 2>of them are getting hit with this and it's crazy

1829
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>what's happening, and what's happening there is that there are

1830
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:27.560
<v Speaker 2>some people.

1831
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I hate to recommend it, but people go out there

1832
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:32.760
<v Speaker 4>and get you a YouTube premium subscription. I mean, you

1833
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:34.600
<v Speaker 4>don't have to watch those ridiculous ads.

1834
01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, you can get rid of it that. I can't

1835
01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:38.239
<v Speaker 3>do that with a TV though.

1836
01:34:38.479 --> 01:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>No, that's one app. That's one app that you can

1837
01:34:40.920 --> 01:34:43.239
<v Speaker 2>eliminate it if you want to pay Google some money.

1838
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:46.119
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm telling you is that stuff that's on

1839
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>TikTok and other platforms is out there. Some of it

1840
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>is ads, and some of it looks like ads, but

1841
01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:55.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not even ads. It's just stuff that comes up

1842
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:58.319
<v Speaker 2>in your feeds. Seriously, there are shorts coming out.

1843
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't take talk, so would that's the least

1844
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>of my worries. Yeah, but there are shorts.

1845
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, But there are shorts on YouTube that pretty

1846
01:35:09.239 --> 01:35:12.359
<v Speaker 2>much look like political ads and they're not. And there

1847
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:14.439
<v Speaker 2>are people out there. They're trying to figure out who's

1848
01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>doing it. Supposedly, uh, but there are people out there

1849
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>releasing tons and tons of this stuff. You can't tell

1850
01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:24.479
<v Speaker 2>it apart from the political ads in a lot of places.

1851
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.399
<v Speaker 2>So it's getting weirder. Like I said, the kids, it's

1852
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>just like I told you that Kamala. They're sick of

1853
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>her face and she's either delusional or she's a liar,

1854
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>and that's it. And Trump they're back on the you know,

1855
01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the people are eating pets in Ohio, Springfield, Ohio. Okay,

1856
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.760
<v Speaker 2>So that's the bottom line. I'm telling you that a

1857
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:52.199
<v Speaker 2>bunch of children and simple minded adults, that's all they're

1858
01:35:52.199 --> 01:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>going to see is that. And it's going to be

1859
01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.960
<v Speaker 2>way louder the AI crap and all that. It's going

1860
01:35:59.039 --> 01:36:02.159
<v Speaker 2>to be way louder than anything else. Plus we're getting

1861
01:36:02.239 --> 01:36:04.399
<v Speaker 2>choked to death by these ads like you're talking about

1862
01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>on broadcast, and oh on your streaming services too. You

1863
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>know that streaming services are doing the same thing where

1864
01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:15.520
<v Speaker 2>you're getting banged by one each one each Kamala, you know,

1865
01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:18.880
<v Speaker 2>or Trump than Trump than Kamala. And they'll even switch

1866
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:21.399
<v Speaker 2>the order. They don't even maintain the orders, back and forth,

1867
01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>back and forth, one and one, one and one. Even

1868
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:27.439
<v Speaker 2>during your streamers that we have, you know, okay, you

1869
01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:31.640
<v Speaker 2>can have Hulu or whatever with the commercials. Yeah, your

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<v Speaker 2>streaming commercials run that way too. So here we go

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<v Speaker 2>the world of AI and battling ads and people's crap

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<v Speaker 2>that they're making up, So rumoring innuendo has plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>platforms just saying and fake stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing is run though, is there's so much effort

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<v Speaker 4>to make up stuff, but if you listen to the

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<v Speaker 4>ridiculousness of both sides, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have to make up a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they it's I don't know politics, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of damn loons running the asylum now and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>getting a little sick of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. And I never went to a break and guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized we're out of time. So b Pete

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<v Speaker 2>your final word for the week man.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, appreciate everybody for calling in.

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy and uh was it Danny? Who was it? Was

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<v Speaker 3>it Daddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Danny? Yep?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, called in.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for calling in being a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you next week and go to Chelly dot

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<v Speaker 3>com and get to donate button.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, I do appreciate that, and I'm sorry I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the clock. I thought I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go back for another segment, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get there, so not only my thanks to Danny

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and and and Jimmy James, but my apologies.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go back to you guys, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>at IT time.

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<v Speaker 6>The age of ten longs. The age of ten us

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<v Speaker 7>At