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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, This is Caleb Grays from Norman, Oklahoma, and

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you are listening to the greatest podcast of all time.

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Speaker 2: I'm spiking the football here. It's the Sureley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Hello everybody, and welcome back to the

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Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast Special Edition five Minutes

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of Fire. We are here talking about the lyrics of

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We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering

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only five minutes at a time, which is about the

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link of the song, so it works out kind of nicely.

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So please join us as we dive into some new

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lyrics today.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, so here are the topics that we're

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going to be covering today.

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Speaker 2: Punk rock, Begon, Reagan, Palestine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about punk rock.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is the first one. I'm like, oh, I

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remember that. So punk rock started in the mid seventies.

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You had these proto punk bands like MC five, who

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had actually gotten record labels to endorse them, but then

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like their chance to their concerts include MFR, which got

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them in a lot of trouble. But they were a

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big inspiration for other bands who were like, we're tired

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of the way music is f the establishment f thisf that.

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And so then you get this club in New York

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City that you probably heard of called CBGB's. You know

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what CBGB stands for, I do not. It stands for

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Country Bluegrass Blues. What. Yeah, So Hilly Crystal started the

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club in nineteen seventy three and his only rule was

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you had to play your own original music. That place

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and Max's Kansas City. Somehow with all of that though,

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end up being the two places that the punk rockers,

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although they weren't really calling themselves that at this point,

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started to do stuff. You of course, in New York

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City have the Ramones. They made their debut performance at

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CBGB's in nineteen seventy four. Within a few months, they

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had done seventy four sets rise each of the sets

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was only seventeen minutes long, and they had a group

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that would play with them that was formed by Richard Hell.

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Group was called Television. Television actually helped them build the

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stage that they had at CBGB's like hammers and nails,

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oh wow. And so Television and the Ramones were not

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super popular in the US, but were a big influence

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on UK bands. And so you had guys like Iggy

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Pop and the Stooges in the Velvet underground. So what

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was happening was the guys in New York that were

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into different music were listening to those guys, and then

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the guys in the UK were listening to the Ramones

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and television, and they were like feeding off of each other, right,

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Like they weren't as popular in their home place as

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they were across the pond. Richard Hell was the guy

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who kind of started with the ripped T shirts and

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aggressive haircuts. That was really just probably because he couldn't

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afford it, you know. He came onto the stage one

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night with clothes pins holding his clothes together, and some

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guy from the UK was like, yeah, screw this fashion

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industry thing, and it was really just probably to keep

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his clothes from falling off. Wow, but that's how you

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get safety pins and clothes For the punk scene. It's

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just a feeding frenzy off of each other in this

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very underground sea. But then nineteen seventy six there is

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this tipping point and suddenly the world becomes aware of

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punk music and it builds and builds, and then in

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nineteen seventy eight, Johnny Rotten from the Sex Pistols spits

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on a guy and it becomes a worldwide phenomena. Tell

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me about Began, okay.

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Speaker 1: Menachem Began was born in nineteen thirteen in modern day Belarus,

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but in nineteen thirty nine the Nazis murdered his father.

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Now he was a Jewish Man, so in nineteen forty

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three he decided he's going to move to Palestine. Began

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wanted to force the British out of Palestine. He was

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on wanted posters. This guy was like seen as a

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terrorist by the British government.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: He became the leader of the Lionised military group urgon

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the British left, turning Palestine over to the UN, who

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then declared in nineteen forty seven this to be the

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Jewish state of Israel. In nineteen seventy seven, Began was

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elected Prime Minister of Israel. In nineteen seventy nine, he

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led the Egypt Israel peace Treaty with Egyptian President Onwar Sadat.

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Now this is the first time that an Arab country

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recognized Israel. In nineteen eighty one, Saddam Hussein threatened Israel

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and was building a nuclear reactor. Began with the Israeli

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Air Force took it out, knock him began, passed away

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March third, nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jason, can you tell me who was president in

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nineteen eighty five? Ronald Reagan, the actor. Okay, this is,

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of course Ronald Reagan, the face of politics for the

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nineteen eighties. He was born in February nineteen eleven to

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Jack Reagan and Nellie Wilson now Willie Nelson now his

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dad Jack was a populist Democrat, and as it turns out, Reagan,

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despite the fact what we know about him in our

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history experience with him, he actually tried to join the

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Communist Party whenever he was what whenever he was a

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young man, but they wouldn't let him in because they

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thought he was quote unquote too dim. And so obviously

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his politics changed over time, and in nineteen eighty he

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beat the incumbent Jimmy Carter. This was during the hostage crisis,

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and he said, I'm going to come in and I'm

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going to fix this, and he did, and he was

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probably one of the most popular at the time presidents

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in history. He was in office from January twentieth, nineteen

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eighty one to January twentieth nineteen eighty nine. Okay, tell

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me about Palestine.

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Speaker 1: The Palestine Liberation Organization that is internationally known as the

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Official Representative of the Palestinian People was founded in nineteen

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sixty four and initially sought to establish an Arab state

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over the entire territory of the former Mandatory Palestine, advocating

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the elimination of the state of Israel. In March nineteen

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seventy seven, Jimmy Carter spoke of a need for the

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Palestinian homeland and wanted Palestine to participate in the peace process.

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Israel rejected the idea of the PLO participating in peace talks,

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and that battle still rages on today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, that does it for today's episode. Join us

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next time for five minutes of fire.