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Speaker 2: It is wild that the ninety dollars are physical piece
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But that's not true, right, Mario Kart is eighty dollars
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are you ready? Okay, let you switch two? Stuff happened
they do? Yeah, yeah, I know you missed it. You're
out slack and doing something else. Try to fighting with
a computer. I guess it's four hundred and fifty dollars.
It's five hundred dollars. With Mario Kart. We were saying
before we I did the intro and stuff and all
the credits there, the games are like eighty dollars. Donkey
Kong's seventy dollars. So there's definitely still some confusion about
exactly what games are going to be going forward in
the United States. Mario Kart eight, I'm sorry, Mario Cakt World,
I'm gonna keep doing that is eighty dollars, both physically
and digitally. Now in Europe, at least in some territories,
it is about ten quid or ten euro more expensive
for the physical version, and then in places like Australia.
I was just someone was just telling me it's like
the games actually priced a little bit below like a
PlayStation five game cost right now, so they're not like
doing this markup across the board. It is they are
picking and choosing, and I think we know, like for
sure why it's happening here is tariffs, and then as
they raise prices in the United States, I think they
do think all right, that is the you know, like
you know, the way the Xbox three sixty was the
lead platform back in the day, United States is sort
of the lead market for deciding how everything else gets
priced in a lot of ways for these companies, I
think Nintendo sort of then works backwards from there. Although
the physical being more expensive in Europe than digital says
to me that they are I don't think they like
distributing stuff in Europe. Europe's always a little bit more
complicated because each territory is a little bit more difficult
than the next. The juice is a little bit less
worth the squeeze, because you know, when the EU Zone
used to be much more congruous, and now the UK
is this separate thing with its own trade that you
have to deal with, and that's the biggest market, and
the Germany and France and Italy and Spain are pretty
huge as well. But they're over here doing their own thing.
And but you still have to have separate like language
of things for each one of them. You have to
have their own marketing. It's a little bit more complicated.
So I think they like the idea of charging more
for the physical version so people just buy digital, so
they could just make it as cheap as possible for themselves.
Regardless though prices are high, they just are high for
the games, they're high for the system, and everyone is
just letting Nintendo have it. Did you watch any of
that Treehouse today?
Speaker 2: I really, but I heard that it was just chat
being span with lower the price a little people relentless. Yes,
it was maybe not too much. Can maybe getting a
town's attention on this front. I bet they didn't like that. Yes,
I'm sure they didn't like that. You know, and people
are right that you are allowed to yell at these companies.
They know, don't let anyone tell you that you can't
do that.
Speaker 1: And they were doing that, and I you know, I
don't think they're gonna scare scare a intend off of
this price anytime soon. I think Nintendo will actually have
to see this reflected in lower pre sales, pre orders
and things like that. I just don't know if that's
gonna happen. We ran a pull for Game Breaking News
this morning, Mike asking people, Hey, are you going to
try to get a switch to this year, and the
majority of people said yes. It was you know a
lot of people are like, yes, I'm going to try,
and then are that's what we're asking for tomorrow? But
and then I'm like, hey, grade the switch to direct,
and it's like, you know, I thought people would kind
of be on the C and D side of thing.
You know, you can only have four options, so it
was ABC, D and below, and by a large margin
it was A and B. It was like thirty percent
A and forty percent B. So people are happy with
what they saw. And then I thought the price would
be reflecting in those grades, but it doesn't seem to be.
So I think there are people who are like, whatever,
I have been wanting this thing for so long. They
know I'll pay more and they're right, and I'm ready to.
And then there's people who are just like that sticker
price is really shocking and I'm I'm pissed off about
it because I know what this means for the market.
All these games are going to be this price going forward,
and they're they're right. This is something that you know,
I've been asking around and kind of poking some publishers
and saying, hey, how do you feel about this price,
and a lot of them are like, we haven't had
time to digest it yet. But there definitely are a
handful of people working at these companies saying we are
ecstatic that Nintendo's doing this because we cannot wait to
do it ourselves. So, yeah, what's your read on all this?
How are you feeling about it? Like a day later?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's interesting because you do
wonder how much of a think it's going to be.
You know that price is always going to be a
talking point. I wondered how long that, how much you
momentum some of that anger would have And it seems
like today is still pretty strong, like enough so that oh,
it could be a thing. Now we'll really turn to
a meaning definitely, Yes, sorry to a meme. It's become
a thing, like Nintendo knows. And of course they were
going no, but it's something that I bet you know
they're talking about. I'm not saying they're talking about, oh,
we had to fix it. To me, Jeff, the price
of the console, like that's not the most shocking thing
in the world. A little bit higher than I thought,
but it was in the range I thought it would be.
Yet for the higher end of the range concome for me. Yes, yeah,
I really do think it's the game that's through. It's
eighty dollars from Marto Kart that I think really through
people for a loop, and there's all sorts of reasons
for it, but I wonder if that's the one where
maybe they're they're like, you know, maybe maybe we why
did we have to move first on this? I know
that we can, we can get away with it, but
why do we have to be the bad guy now?
And all that stuff? And part of me is like, yeah,
why did you Why couldn't you just wait a little bit,
But part of it is because they want to have
that price now set in stone, because they know things
are looking rough, especially in the US right now with
teriff's happening in you know, every country, basically every imported
good is going to be tariff now. So it's just
it's a compasse scenario. It's a messy scenario. And I hope,
you know, be mad at Nintunnel yo, Nintendo. I hope
we don't lose sight of like other places we should
be upset at. But again, if you want to be
bad in Nintendo, that's fine, then Nintendo can go and
be met at governments and stuff, right whatever. Trust me, like,
you know, yeah, I'm going to pay.
Speaker 1: For the thing. I you know, I have to have it.
Speaker 2: But if you know your your if your position is
that this is awful one, I'm gonna scream and yo
and hopefully you know, do something. But it that's fine.
Can't nothing bad can come from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that they did. Everyone's mad at them,
But I still think that they are playing this in
a way that's like at least a little bit cheeky,
where they're like, yeah, we're gonna do Mario cart at eighty,
Donkey Kong gets seventy. So there is some question about
how things are going to go for us going forward.
And then people aren't talking about four hundred and fifty
dollars for the console. I know some people are, but
mostly they are just talking about the games themselves. Although
you know, if you feel four hundred fifty dollars it's
too expensive, I get that, and I think that when
I start thinking, okay, well, yeah, if you wanted to
get more money from selling your games, what other options
are on the table. And there's definitely ones where it's
like Nintendo has not tried much before, if at all,
Like a week's early access. You pay eighty dollars to
get early access to the game, and you sell a
Nintendo game to get early access to that while you're
gonna sell two three million copies that at that price,
that seems like something they could have done instead, And
then you kind of the average goes up a little bit. Yeah,
I don't necessarily what that.
Speaker 2: The other thing here, though, is, look, Nintendo is already
the company that basically never puts their games and sale.
Speaker 1: The price never goes down. There's never a greatest hits line.
Speaker 2: So it's like, well, you already, you already have that,
Get that be enough, And of course it's never it's enough,
forget it. You know, we are at the point now
where you know, Breath of the Wild was a sixty
dollars game all through at the switch, and now it's
a seventy dollars game on this switch. To the praise
of that game went up. And I understand why Kirby
is eighty because it's with the expansion and the upgrade,
but I think it just still doesn't sit right for
people to see Kirby game eighty dollars. I love Kirby,
even I kind of understand a little bit like, yeah,
eighty dollars Kirby.
Speaker 1: It's it is.
Speaker 3: A lot.
Speaker 2: It is very difficult to digest. And if this is
going to be the new normal. You know, maybe eventually
people will settle in for that. When there was anger
when games became seventy dollars two and at the time
there I was like game prices haven't gone up in forever.
This isn't shocking. Of course, it sucks to pay more,
and there's like there's some stuff there with that. Everything's
getting more expensive. Everything is getting more expensive. Of course
video games are getting expensive too, And I look, I
get it that sometimes you don't get upset about these
kind of things until it is the thing you sort
of care about a lot of times that's video games,
So that's sure, But yeah, get mad about things getting
more expensive?
Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah, I mean there's you know that they
do take into consider sentiment, Like you mentioned, Nintendo is
going to know about people being mad about this, Like
they're typically going to be people at that company that
always knew we're going to pay attention. But like now
there's like no chance that there isn't a detailed sentiment
report from people whose job it is to give that
information to the highest executives at Nintendo that like that
doesn't include a detailed, like multi page explanation for why
people are spamming, drop the price and chat like that.
That is going to be something that even for a
Kawa is going to be fully briefed on now. And
that's because people made their voices heard. So does that
change anything? I don't know, because I do. I am
skeptical that when the rubber meets the road, people are
actually gonna say I'm not gonna get this thing, or
I'm not gonna spend eighty dollars on the game. You know,
I'm trying to remember how we talked about the seventy
hour games. I think I was with you mostly saying like,
it's been a while since the price has gone up,
and yes, this sucks, but people are probably gonna pay this.
And the way they say it, it's like, actually, it's
only you know, ten extra bucks. What am I gonna
not enjoy my hobby? What do you do not play Godfall? Yeah,
that's not an option, all right? And now it's like, okay,
it's it's kind of feeling like twenty extra bucks. That
does sting much more. Looking at the numbers, eight zero
back to back for a price for a game is
tough here in the United States, but other countries like
the prices have gone up for years and years, and
there is stuff like places like Canada, places like Australia
where they have gone up above one hundred of dollars
in their local currency one hundred and twenty dollars in
the case of Canada, and I think it's kind of
getting or in the case of Australia, and I think
it's getting there in Canada and we see that's like
the market does adapt now it does. I do think
it makes people like more picky and more choosy, and
that's why there are no like middle of the road
games anymore. If you can't stand out, if you can't
be a game that can justify that price, you're kind
of screwed. So then the question becomes Nintendo games justify
that price and sitting in it right now, it's like
I think they're going to be able to to the
audience that they sell games to, probably, but we'll see.
I mean, I'm gonna get it too, and I'm I'm
kind of still mostly just excited, and I'm ready to
spend eighty dollars of my own money, which I've done
on Nintendo games repeatedly now bought Nintendo games, not eighty dollars,
but I'm ready to do it for a lot of
these games because I just look at them and they
look so fun to me. But this is my primary
hobby and I've made it. I've tried to make it,
make it in such a way that it's like I
can justify that cost. Not everyone has a lot of
people are like I'm I always wait for a sale,
and that has started to mean I can't get Nintendo
games because they don't go on sale, or if they do,
it's years later for a weekend and it's forty five
dollars instead of sixty. And that's like the opposite of
just about every other publisher where it's like, hey, two
months later it's forty dollars and then a year later
I can get it for fifteen in a Steam sale.
So yeah, price pricing's going to continue to be the
main pain point here, But I got.
Speaker 2: Video games like it's starting. Yeah, the title is really
highlighted right now. We'll see how much longer it is
before we see other eighty dollars video games, and when
there's another around of consoles, we'll see how much those
costs as well.
Speaker 1: Yep, those those tariffs still get announced the same day,
kind of like it just really is man, that is
exactly what they tried to price against is those kinds
of tariffs, And honestly, it's like it's probably not enough
the pricing that they built in, but that four hundred
and fifty, you know, five hundred dollars with Mario Kart bundle,
which you know, I don't like they wouldn't be able
to bundle Mario Kart in digitally, so it's like they
don't have to pay the separate tariff on importing the
physical game. It's like, okay, so they can do that
on one package and that will make that makes sense
for them. Even at five hundred dollars, it's probably not
enough to help them overcome their profit margin there, so
they actually probably are going to lose money on the system,
even though they clearly priced this with the potential of
tariffs in mind. And again we kind of know that
because the Japanese model is about three hundred dollars, which
is wild that it can vary that much. And just
as a reminder that one's region locked, but that doesn't
mean games are region locked if you have one of
the more expensive models switches, even if you can buy
one in Japan, even for a lot more money. You'll
be able to play games from anywhere. It's just that
one Japanese cheaper model that you can get in stores
or whatever. That it's going to be region locked, all right, Mikey,
I don't know. And there's DLSS stuff, ray tracing stuff
that got confirmed. Hall Effects censors have been confirmed. Getting
a lot more details today as there were hands on preview.
In fact, now we can confirm Dan Raiker and Janetchilla
over there. Dan Record got to play a bunch of stuff.
He's got a couple of handful of videos talking about
it on Game Spot. We're going to have him on
VCR tomorrow to talk about it. They can talk about
their trip and stuff like that. I don't know. Have
you been able to keep up with a lot of
the coverage, any new things you've learned? How are you
feeling about everything else? I think crazy? I this was
a bit of ala.
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping in a little bit day right just because
it has gone NonStop. It's nice to see things confirmed,
like the Treehouse Deep dies. At a certain point, Like
I was watching some of the metroy Prime four stuff,
I was like, man, this looks great. It's also just
sort of showing the beginning of the game, and I'm like,
I don't want to see this. I'm gonna play this
game for sure. I'm glad it does look amazing. I
was a little surprised. It was almost like a little
bit metroy Prime three vibes and that, not that it's
a big story thing, but it was like, oh, there's
like there's people and they're talking a little bit, and
they're almost kind of doing that Doom guy thing where
the guy's like, oh my god, it's really her. It's Samus.
It's right from the Doom maternal thing there. So boy,
I think Metro Prime four continues to look great. I
saw that we had Cranky Kong confirmed for Donkey Kong Bonanza,
and that makes me happy. That is a fantastic character.
So you know, again, Nintendo is revamping Donkey Kong a
bit here, but I'm glad that we do still have
those elements from Docy Kunk Country, like Cranky Kong and
hopefully some of those other characters. I'm not saying they
need to do a Funky Kong mode, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Hurt yep, I would not hurt at all. Yeah, I've
been enjoying kind of like dipping into coverage here or there.
And I was watching some of it on the big
TV in four K sixty frames per second, and everything
looks so good. It just looks so good. I mean,
I don't really need four K a lot of times,
but it's like, well, this is actually taking advantage of it.
It looks so sharp. And I guess the big part
of that is most of the time I'm playing switch
to switch one games and you know a lot of
them just render at seven to twenty P on a
TV and you know, maybe ten ADP, maybe nine hundred
P in that range, and it is a big jump,
especially if you're sitting up close on that TV. And
then every game kind of being sixty frames per second
for the most part has also been fun to see.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I was looking at just more
like here's people playing Tears of the King than it's
you know, sixty frames per second and better resolution. I'm like, man, oh, oh,
that looks so nice. It looks it's so good. Just
you know, those games are fantastic, but I am like, oh, oh,
the best games ever are a little bit better now. Actually,
I am so excited for that.
Speaker 1: And in HDR as well. That's really nice. Actually, I've
seen a lot of HDR footage recorded with HDR cameras
pointed at the screen kind of so capturing it a
little bit. It just looks so nice. So crisp, I'm
pretty exciting. That LCD screen looks pretty solid. So I'm
feeling good about that. I'm like, obviously, what I prefer that,
But I'm okay with you the LCD based on what
we've seen so far.
Speaker 2: I know they they're playing some of the NSO GameCube
games and what not. It just looked a little bit.
But when Waker was looking pretty sharp on They're like,
you know, whatever upressing is happening. I mean, one Way
is so much such a good art style that you
uprest that a bit and it just basically looks as
good as any video game today today. Still, so yeah,
you know, again, the price conversation is dominating right now,
and you know that's fine, But boy, I am, I
am very excited for this.
Speaker 1: Was shoo so many cool looking games there. Yeah. People
are saying that maybe they retracted the Hall effect thing
on Wirecutter. Let they see here, Oh really, I mean
I'm looking at New York Times dot com slash wirecutter,
slash review, slash Nintendo switch to preview with dashes between each,
and it says right here, switched to has traded the
original JOYCN analytstics, pententometers, potentiometers for Hall effects sensors, which
should with stand. I mean it's still here in the article,
so I mean, if that's not right, I guess we'll
probably find out soon enough. Maybe they will retract it,
but they have not yet. And you know, the rumor
was they were going to use hall offex sensors, and
they have promised that they've rebuilt these things to withstand this.
So we'll find out whatever, But right now this is
on New York Times website. Maybe we can get direct
confirmation from Nintendo at some point. Also, so people keep
getting annoyed at US mentioning tariffs because it's like the
price has gone up globally, But you know, you've got
to keep in mind, like how these companies view the
United States consumer, Like we're the whiniest and the most
and the loudest, and so when our prices go up,
everyone has to hear about it, and we like it's
like and everyone else says, our prices have gone up
for years, why are you like not just now complaining?
And it's and so they're very like careful and they
treat us with kid gloves and because we're babies about it, like,
let's be real, that's what it's about. Where babies. And
when when American consumers get loud, companies actually listen because
that is their biggest market. And then so they kind
of price everything else based on the United States price.
That's one thing. Also, the cost of living crisis has
clearly caused everything to go up. We mentioned that, like
they're pricing these things with the mind that inflation has
been bad. Sure it's starting to get under control a
little bit, but there's no guarantee it won't go back up,
so they are pricing it with that in mind. And
then also they do have to keep arbitrage selling in mind,
Like they don't want to sell systems to Canada and
the UK, in Australia and everywhere else that people buying
in globs and ship off to the United sis States
because they could make a profit by selling it for
more money in the United States. So it's like that
they're just not going to do that. They're going to
price everything based on the United States, and I'm sorry,
that's the way it is, like it is. I don't
think that should be too surprising, because again, we're the
whiniest and happen to be the biggest market, so it's
our guy. It's another European outlook going to get mad
at you. I hope a couple of things. Chris Pratt.
Speaker 2: You just made Chris Pratt spam a lot of American
flag emoji, so that's great, people were saying, so like,
I think, I don't know if you cooks. Apparently the
article is updated from New York Times of the Hall
Effects to say some video game centric outlooks have speculated
the switch to has traded the.
Speaker 1: Original blah blah blah for haliffects.
Speaker 2: So let's just that I'm confirmed, now, Okay, I'm confirmed
then about the Hall Effects.
Speaker 1: So okay, well we'll see. I bet it does have
hal offic censors. But if it doesn't, that's super annoying.
But I guess I say that and then I will
just get a third party joy con that does. I've
bought a lot of third party joy cons in my time,
many of them at this point have had hall effects,
so I'll be fine one way or the other. I
hope Nintendo goes that route though, especially for the Pro controller.
That would be nice. All right, Well, the magnets be
a problem with haul effect joy comes, I don't think so.
You know, I don't know for sure, but I don't
think so. Uh, they should be able to make those work. Okay,
let's see anything else from the switch to I mean,
people are gonna have comment like comments in the super chats,
so if anyone wants to talk about anything specific, they
can do it there. But anything else gonna mention what's
the Treehouse stuff tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Because like they looked like they did all the big
stuff today they did maybe they did they do Mario Kart.
Speaker 1: They definitely did Metroid, they did Marty kartt like twice.
They did Donkeys Okay, yes, the Metro.
Speaker 2: They did anis so, they did Donkey Kong, they did
the wheelchair game, so.
Speaker 1: They'll do more of that. Talking about tomorrow they'll do
they'll do they'll do more of all those games. I think.
I think that's kind of how Treehouse has gone in
the past, where it's like they showed and then there'll
be stuff like that Damon X, Makina two and all
could be third party stuff. That makes it there'll be
more third party stuff for sure. Yeah, but they'll they'll
show off those games again. I think because they have
no problem. They're like people are going to tune in
at different times. They'll they'll show off a lot of
those games again. But yeah, probably third party. I did,
like I was looking at a list of like switch
to launch games sort of games for the rest of
the year. There are like a lot of third party
ports ready to go for launch day, like Hitman, Signatation
and stuff like that, And then there's a handful that
don't have dates at all. They just say either to
be determined. They only say twenty twenty five, like Final
Fantasy seven Integrade, that's just TBD. We don't know the
exact date.
Speaker 2: Interesting, like, you know, let's get that one up because
you know, it seems like we're not getting rebirthed at
the same time. But I wonder if you think like
Part three comes down the switch to at the same
time that comes out in PlayStation, or you think there's
still a window there.
Speaker 1: No, I think by the time they're ready for Part three,
it'll be on everything day one. Yeah. In fact, I
bet they are making part three with the switch to
in mind, so we'll see, uh, Elderly Defaults day one.
I'll play Bravely Default. Yeah, there you go. That's be
your third party game. Elder Ring. I think it's just
twenty twenty five, or maybe they said summer for elden Ring.
I can't remember exactly. Cyberpunk I think is pretty early.
Speaker 2: But Cyberpunk, any of those, Like you're interested in these
like kind of third party games, I've already been out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get hit Man again. I buy that
pretty much on everything. It's so good, and I like
the way it looks on handhelds with like the really
sharp screens, and it looks like it's gonna run great,
and it has the Nintendo specific content, and I just
I like going through all the levels and do it
trying things a different way. And sure it's great to
have everything unlocked, but I do have my one save
now that I finally have, Like I think, I originally
played it on Epic Games like the hit Man three,
and now I'm I've been playing on Steam. I finally
got Steam back up to where I was on Epic
Games and I played on Xbox and PlayStation as well.
I'll play it on the Switch. It's one of my
favorite games of all time. So that's probably like the
third party game i'll go for. I might get Madden
and or Fifa, especially if Fifa is like a new
version of Fifa. I like having a sports game at
launch as well. Cyberpunk is day one, so they go
there's a Yeah, that's the one where it's like because
it's got Phantom Liberty and Phantom Liberty. It was PS
five and Xbox Series X and S and then PC only,
so that's the one that's like, not the PS four
version of Cyberpunks. So it's looking a bit a little
bit fuzzy. Although I saw a comment from one story
I think it was on Kotaku where they called it
d LSS slop and I'm like, that's not don't use
that term for DLSS. It's a very different thing. I
know people think people think they don't optimize games and
just use the LSS. Cyberpunks has been very well optimized.
It's just a switch to in some ways, and Cyberpunk's
a tough game to run. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love calling things AI slop. I don't know where
we're starting to use that for other things. I saw, uh,
so somebody calling from Software Games roll slop.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of funny. It's funny. It's funny. But
let's just pump them, like, just tap the brakes. We
don't have to pump the brakes, just tap them. Yeah,
because a zero so, uh, I mean that's good.
Speaker 2: I see somebody and I said the FOP seven US
feed DC is places of five only two. Uh, but
it says integrade on the switch version, and the whole
Integrade was the UFI thing, So I think it'll be
on there. And then uh yeah, yuck is a zero
in uh Star Wars Outlaws. That's one that I forget
how to date or not, but like, yeah, I could
play that on my switch.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that might be launch. I
think that might actually be long I think so. I'm like,
I'm trying to remember that list l Yes. So I
was listening to Andy from VGC and he kept calling
it split second. I'm like, what the fuck is this
guy talking about?
Speaker 2: God, I wish split it was on their holy Craft.
Split Second is a good racing game.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 1: Of course. Day one we got Bridge Racer, so Ridge Racer,
and the uh, the Nintendo games on day one are
it's just the the Nintendo Switch Tour whatever they call
that Nintendo Switch to Tour game, the Tech Demo, and
then Mario Kart World I think that's it. And the
switch to editions of the Zelda games. Oh right, right,
you're right, and now and then like GameCube Nso if
you want to count those, I suppose, yeah, it's it's again.
I thought that there would be one more. That's why.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason, like part of me doesn't complete
discount Metroid still being there. It probably isn't, but the
party is like, it's just not a lot of Nintendo
new Nintendo games for the launch. But again, I'm like,
a month and a half later, you got Donkey Kong.
Speaker 1: Andy Robinson also like on that VGC podcast today, which
was a good chat. Uh. People should listen to their
their their conversation. There's been a lot of good ones
that especially good. He's he's convinced that's good. It no,
because he said some crazy shit that I'm gonna tell
him is definitely wrong. He's like, uh, he's convinced that
the Mario team is not making Donkey Kong and he
thinks we're going to get a Mario game this holiday,
still a three D mar I.
Speaker 2: Mean, look, that'd be great for my fantasy critic. Yes,
but who does he thinks of making that Donkey Kong game?
Speaker 1: Then I know he says he doesn't know, but Nazi says,
Nintendo wouldn't say who's making it, So that's one of
the reasons he's skeptical. Now another I always don't say, yeah,
they always don't say. And also I think it was
GVG good Good Vibe Gaming. Was like we were there
and we were playing, we were watching other people play,
and then I looked at the left and koizuom he
was there watching people play Donkey Kong the entire time,
and Koizumi being like the guy that's in charge of
the Mario, the Ready Mario team. I'm like, gosh, that's
not a coincidence. That's just that's that's that's the person
making a game. People playing his game, look at the game.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's just that is just clearly the team that
made Mario honestly, which is the team that made Mario Galaxy,
which was the team that made yeah, Jungle Blast or
whatever it was, yeah, jungle Beat beat Selena.
Speaker 1: This is not the first Donkey Kong rodeo for them. Yep.
Uh yeah, they're they're they're back on it. And man,
Jungle Beat is so goddamn good. That's a good game.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I remember Dan had Kayla play it at the thing.
I thought like, oh, is she in for a treat?
She did not careful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I just think she's like this is
too weird. That's yeah. I was so ready for it
because I like we were hearing like, oh, it's it's
a surprisingly good game, and then I played. I'm like,
this fucking owns. It's so much fun.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Yep. And there's that video.
Speaker 2: I watch even a YouTube video and that's so I'm
go like I'm playing every deep Donkey Kong game and
like they got to that. I'm like, oh, they're in
for a treat and they're like, what is this bullshit?
I'm like no, And don't you understand there's a switch.
There's a switch version that's probably better because you don't
have to use the bongos.
Speaker 1: And I was like, look, I've never fought somebody before
physically put some goddamn respect on those bongos.
Speaker 2: God, God, the wee version of Donkey Kung jungle Bee.
Can you play controls? We made it worse. Yeah, yeah,
that's a shame.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get like people are just don't want
to be to play the weird thing, and that is
kind of weird. But it's weird in a fantastic way.
Let's see here other things worth bringing up. Uh oh,
did you see some of the mini games in the
Nintendo Switch to Welcome tour included guests? I remember the
mini golf one? What else we got? Guess the frame rate?
It's a game where you it shows you two images,
two gifts, basically of a ball moving across the screen,
and one of them starting frames per second. Another yeah,
oneother sixty frames per second, and you have to guess
which ones which. Okay, I think I don't know. If
you thought I would hate this, that sounds great to me.
It's just I was telling Jason Finelli today that it
sounds like the really bad weird casino in Vegas Vacation
where it's like guess the number, like yes, yeah, Rock
Paper Scissors. It's wild, man. Remember we thought Nintenda would
never say the word frame rate, that they would have
to come up with some other word for it. No,
here we are okay, they put one hundred try I
heard screen in the thing and now they're obsessed with
frame rate. There's also a market for this, No, this
is gonna be like ten. So they we don't have
a US price right now, but there is a listing
on the Japanese website that has it at nine hundred
and ninety yen, which you know, traditionally you go one
to one that's ten dollars, but right now that's about
six dollars, so it could be anywhere from five to
ten dollars. That's I can't believe. I still can't believe.
That's not it's priced. It's priced in away where it's like,
why is it not included?
Speaker 2: It's continued, I said, not just like you should open
up the switch and that should just be on your
home screen. It's here, installed code, welcome tour.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I think it's digital only, so it's
like they're not going to have to pay tariffs on that.
But yes, it's digital only, but still just just included
on the stupid thing. Why are you so weird? Now?
Speaker 2: The other would be designed with that in mind and
someone's like, wow, we could charge for it. That one
is wild. It's just so many little things. And that's
why I think finally when we saw Donkey Kong at
eight dollars, everybody just finally lost it.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Like this is one where like people
people in chat were like, why are you charging eighty dollars?
So everyone's convinced it's eighty dollars in chat, but a
lot of people are just like why is this not free?
Like so it was like drop the price, dropped the price,
and they got to the when like why is this
not free? They make it free. Uh So, yeah, people
are mad about all these decisions one of the other.
This one's kind of neat Mario Brothers four K where
it takes uh Mario Brothers one one and you play
the level and as you're playing, it's like a really
tiny Mario on a strip because it's actually like mapping
the pixels one to one. The level just continues to
like unfurl and like clears up the fog of war.
So it's like a whole strip of on one across
the screen, so you could see how it represents the
entire level in on one screen. Because now they have
four K pixels to play with. It's neat. It's kind
of neat. Yeah, it's a demo.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: I think they use that thing on like like an
Mario speed Run back in the day, where like the
they will playing the big screen and the shoes, they
will just unveil the level else say what's.
Speaker 1: Going Yeah that sounds familiar. Yeah, I think they got
a Nintendo World Championship thing or something like that. Yeah,
something along those lines. And then the Horry is making
a Piranha plant version of the Switch to Camera for uh,
this one's forty bucks.
Speaker 2: It looks really good, Mike, Yeah, because I will say
that Nintendo one is like, well, that is the most
normal looking like computer camera thing I could possibly imagine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get a little It's really cute, and
it's twenty like at Eastern Europe. It's twenty euro cheaper
than the Switch to Camera and it's hoary. So everyone
like reminded me. It's like Horry makes good stuff there.
It's probably gonna be a pretty decent camera. Yeah, probably
as good as the Switch One's gonna be gonna be better.
It's actually the reality, so we'll see and it does.
It does look super cute. So do you see Daisy
in her bathing suit? Speaking of something very cute? I
didn't where Where do I? Where do I do I google? Oh?
Just all sorts of screenshots of her in her bathing
suit and Mario Kart? Okay, yeah, yeah? Is she the
only one in a bathing suit? Or is that the
only one? Maybe? I don't know? All right, I uh,
I've written down here the worst thing that Saudi's have
done since nine to eleven. They have ruined fighting game.
Oh my, so fatal Fury City of the Wolves. It's
gonna have a d J in it? Is that the
what's his name? I ever saw? I know his name
and I forgot his name. It's a that was so funny,
so funny, dude. Yeah, I appreciate that. Good look it out.
Your looks really nice today. I should have said something,
Oh boy, Oh okay, he's gonna he's like friends with
the Crown friends, right, I think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Actual? Hell is this? Yeah?
Speaker 4: If the if the inclusion of Christiano Ronaldo in the
game was like this sign of the Saudi Arabia's influence
on the sky, this sh it is like damn saying
that they have them by the bulls, like they can't
do ship now. Like also, so I think they hate this,
that the people making the game, because those characters compared
to the actual characters and like the s and kay
like universe.
Speaker 1: They look like ship.
Speaker 4: This guy looks like somebody moed him into the game
and replaced like some other character with his model.
Speaker 1: Line is he character is Ronaldo? And this guy like
part of the Yes, they're full, full characters, like they're
straight up characters in these universe they're like in technically
also because now everything is in the same universe, they're
on the street for the universe too, if you think
about it, so like, yeah, I don't know, it's messed up.
It looks like she had the Christian Ronaldo thing.
Speaker 4: I understand that because it's Christiano Ronaldo is a huge
guy guy everywhere in the world.
Speaker 1: Like sure, right, yeah that was such but it makes Yeah,
but I know who Ronaldo is from school saying that's
her favorite soccer player. She's never watched a second of soccer,
so what is this? Yeah, this is gross. It's stupid.
Speaker 2: If we want to put real people in fighting games,
it should at least be like John Cena or something
fun or Reggie and Smash Brothers back and then when
we wanted that this is this is awful and like
you know, we're getting important fatal theory characters like Andy
in like season one deal see you have to pay
for whereas this goober was in the freaking bass game.
Uh yeah, it's it's weird that it's gross and it's uh,
it's off putting, and it it has tempered my excitement
a bit for a City of the Wolves.
Speaker 4: Also another another problem of the Saudi Arabia's multi angle
attacks on like them becoming like this esport kind of
nation where like they're holy in all the tournaments and
they're paying a fuck ton of money to everybody who
like even something.
Speaker 1: They're doing in all kinds of different competitive spaces like
they are they've been trying to take off over golf
stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, And well it's that it has this
kind of layer of awareness on top of it that
I'm not a.
Speaker 1: Fun so I don't know what's going to happen with
this game.
Speaker 4: I play the beta and is the gameplay is fun,
Like the network was working fine, So this is like
so weird to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's a deal with the devil, right,
like it is, you want to get this game made, sure,
here's what you need to do for us to pay
for it. It's kind of I think the.
Speaker 2: Guy you're go ahead even said at one point like
it was so hard to get this game green Lay
because it's such an old franchise.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's something there, Jeff. And then
you know, it does kind of put in start contrast.
It's like, you know, you could take money from ten
Cent instead, and they just invest and then they stand
back and kind of let you do your thing, and
if you fuck up, they'll show up and be like,
we'll give you more money. But you do need more control,
and that control just mean more controlling interest in your shares.
But they don't really get involved in management to all that. Often,
even companies they own like more than fifty percent of
which I think they did for Riot for a little bit, right,
it's still very much just a company that's in la
like hiring people in that place that running their own
business the way they want to run it. And I
think we've seen now very quickly that savvy games and
sort of everyone underneath that they are leveraging their power
to make decisions in these companies and taking over management decisions,
and fortunately just so.
Speaker 2: Wild that the decision is you got to put the
crown Prince's favorite DJ in the game.
Speaker 1: This is insane, Like that's his wild treating as another plaything,
and I didn't I wasn't expecting that. So seeing it
here like this, it's like, this is bizarre. It's so fun.
I would rather have an MBS on it, Like, I
don't know what this is, Like what is going on?
The journalists beat up level? Sure? Yeah, god, look Jeff,
you got away with one. I know, pushing my luck.
I know well that listen, he killed a journalist. I'm
not going to shy away from that guy ship. He
did do that, he didn't so jump all right, Yeah, hey,
I hope that game. I was just easy to ignore,
and you know, it becomes kind of joke character that's it.
Speaker 2: I wish I could just hate to like hide him
from the rosters. I just want to look at people's
faces every time I try.
Speaker 4: What if somebody's gonna come out with a moud you
replace him with like I don't know, Leo Kennedy.
Speaker 2: I don't know if like everybody's shamed to ever like
this character. If everyone just like insta quit the matches.
Speaker 1: All right, I think that's good to do it for
the headlines. But I think we got a handful of
super chats that we should get to. Let's take a
quick break. We'll get into those right after this. You
won't believe what the mount rushmore is a battery body?
Oh shoot, that's a tease. Al Right, we're back, Hey, Mike,
uh bafta ran some like I think it was a
user poll or fan poll something like that. And I
don't know if they just ask people in the UK.
If they did, I'm gonna get in trouble with the UK.
Gag so mad at them. They had a list of
the twenty most influential games of all time, as voted
by these people. Can you guess? Are asking you guess
what number one was? I'm guessing get something outrageous. It's
like yeah, but but it's not like it's not like
completely out of pocket. It's just wrong. Is it Minecraft?
It's not Minecraft? Minecraft was like number seven? Ish me,
I'm gonna get it the lists while you're talking, is
it is it GoldenEye? Is it a British game. It's
not a British game.
Speaker 2: It's not a British game. So it's not favoritism at least,
give me, give me, give me a hint. Here, give
me a platform.
Speaker 1: Let's do the twenty questions thing. Let's do it like that. Okay, yeah, okay.
Is it a PC game? It is not a PC game?
Definitely not originally, Yes, not a piece of game. Is
it before the year two thousand? It's like right around there,
be exactly the year two thousand. It's it's just right
in that that. Don't hang out, I'll look it up. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you got it's one year before the year two thousands.
It's like two days before the year two thousand. Okay?
Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it a PlayStation one game? It is not a
PlayStation one game, the Intel sixty four game.
Speaker 1: It is not a Nintendo sixty four game. Wait, it
wasn't a PC game either. It's not a PC game.
There's another site. Wait. Is it a Game Boy Color game? Nope?
Is it Dreamcast game? Yes? Love boy?
Speaker 2: I love the Dreamcast a lot, Jeff, Yeah, I is
it like, would you call this a one of the
weird Dreamcast games? It's one of the weirder ones. It's
not the weirdest.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's Nott's see you man. Wait oh, it's it's
shen Moo. According to BAFTA voters, Shenmu is the most
influential game of all time. Number two is Doom. She
Mo more more influential than Doom. I think number three
was like Super Mario Brothers saying, let me get the
list here, what is today third? I'll tell you what.
I can maybe defend this a little bit like it's
not the okay, but I know, but the rest of
the list is Doom, Super Mario Brothers, Half Life, Ocker,
En of Time, Minecraft, Can you come Deliverance too? Okay,
that one's actually weirder. What wait? What the Super Mario
sixty four, Half Life two, The Sims, Tetris At Number eleven,
tomb Raider, Pong, Middle Gear, Sotylid, World Warcraft, Boulderskate three,
Final Fantasy seven, Dark Souls, Grand Theft Auto three, Skyrim,
Grand Theft Auto Games.
Speaker 2: I guess it's like how much do you guse? Like
shen MoU was one of those first kind of open
world reaction adventure things.
Speaker 1: It's definitely influential.
Speaker 2: It is, and like in terms of like how many
games became basically that, Yeah, that's a lot of them,
even up you know, the Auto three is sort of yeah,
But I.
Speaker 1: Don't think I don't think three was that inspired by Shenu.
I think three was like, let's take Grand Theft Auto
two and make it three D. I think it was
inspired by being three D. I don't know. Maybe I
think maybe they're a little inspired by Ship maybe a little,
But I just I know that me and my friends
were playing Grand Theft Auto two and we all basically
describe Grand Theft Auto three like wouldn't isn't it gonna
be awesome when they do this one day? Or they
should do this one day, And then they made that
game exactly because it was just so obvious playing those games.
Speaker 4: So I feel like I feel like the thing she
MoU was doing it like it's not It's not like
other people were going to come up with that kind
of stuff, you know, like the time passing and that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just it. They didn't do it.
They did it really bad because that's a bad game.
Let's be no, that's shem is not a bad game.
It's just horrible on stream. I want to be clear.
You like you think I won't enjoy playing Shenmu one. Really?
Speaker 3: You know me?
Speaker 1: You think I'm not getting you enjoy it. It's not
a fun game to play anymore. It wasn't then.
Speaker 2: I felt that way then. But yeah, I'll probably eat
shen Move up. I'll probably look super into it.
Speaker 1: I'll get I'm gonna get a Dreamcast next. I did
get my retro tink four k c e backs, so
it's time some got Dreamcast. I'll try Shin Move again.
Why not? What the hell? It's the most influential game
of all time? Well I'm missing out clearly. Apparently I
would doom. That's a good one that I think. Dan's
a shen MoU defender too. Yeah, help me, and he
probably would actually help you, and I'd be very annoyed
with both of you. Mike, read the damn super chats.
I'm sick of your ship. Fair enough, I get it.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's see what the auto general summary is. Viewers
are discussing the game Spot's list the most influential games,
game Spot being number one. It's a mixed reaction. Some
people agree, while others argue the list is flawed. Big
Fresh thirty seven says a mic on the console, Seemen
is coming back, baby, or maybe Hey you Pikachu. I
was thinking today, like, man, we probably won't, but boy
a Dreamcast NSO would be awesome because they could just
do c Men on it with that mic. Yeah we can,
Hey you Pikachu, which is a much worse video game
than Semen.
Speaker 1: But that could actually happen. Why not? It could happen
for sure. Odama could happen, which is not also not
a very NOMA could definitely happen. I mean, yeah, I
guess I. I guess.
Speaker 2: The thing is like N sixty four, NSO is on
switch one, so they can they can't they do games
that can only be on switch to NSO, Like, well,
how game Tube will only be switched to I assume right, Yes,
I think.
Speaker 1: So that's the sense I got. Nikky Graycius says, hey you, Pika, two.
Speaker 2: Big frustrated senses, respectfully, mikey, can't we let dev stretch
their wings and try new things? The frumps offt had
to keep doing the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, you say exactly those words.
Speaker 2: Well, look, yeah, sir, but like even like even in
that set it's like, look, if it was like hey,
from was like, hey, we're making a turn based like RPG,
I'd be all cool. It's from software, was like we're
making a fighting game, I'd be like cool, Like this
is all the mechanics and a lot of that stuff
from the from Sack games just kind of twitch it,
twisting it around to make it something I'm not as
interested in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people, people just don't want to play those those
games multiplayer, that's all.
Speaker 2: And also, like you know, the real like those words
remind me of Phil Spencer justifying Red Fall, Like that's
what you said, right, that was the thing there says
the dust Bloods will be from software. It's red Fall, everybody,
it won't. No, I get like that should be able
to try to things, but it's also pretty rough these
days when games take forever to make and you're good
at one thing, and it's like, well, let's hope that
you're good at doing something completely different.
Speaker 1: Let's I don't think it's actually not completely different. This
is very in line with they have multiple stuff in
all of their games. It's just not the focus.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's that's twenty twenty six. We have a
long time to see more of it, and maybe I'll
get excited.
Speaker 1: Look, look night Rain. However, I feel about it is
very much a little bit of a sidezy, who'sy? What's it?
I don't want this to be a sidezy, who'sy? What's it?
Speaker 2: The fact that me is he's directing it leads me
to believe that it is it, But then I don't know.
Whenever I hear the words it's like an extraction shooter,
that's what's like.
Speaker 1: Have you played an extraction shooter? Have you? Okay? I
played Division One? Do you like it? I didn't. My
least hearite part of it was the extraction part, the zone.
You don't like the doc song, you know what?
Speaker 3: Not that like?
Speaker 1: You've played games long enough that I do believe you
know something. You won't like something when you hear it
described to you, and so I trust that you like
know that this is not exactly your speed. Maybe you'll
like it more than you expect.
Speaker 2: But I was if I was to play an extraction
shooter is escape from tarkof still the one?
Speaker 1: I have to try something else. I would recommend the
beginning in their friendly Yeah, okay, we'll see. Well we
can just pa here pretty soon.
Speaker 2: We'll try that, right, Yeah, it was just Marathon probably
is gonna be the one.
Speaker 1: Bungee is T's in Marathon like next week, everybody, late
next week. I think you'll be able to see a
lot more about Marathon at that point.
Speaker 2: Sign from Saskatchewan says, what's the direct wait? Was the
direct wait? Was the direct m rating? Because of Randy Pitchford? Yes,
in the amosphere magic.
Speaker 1: Beautiful them for just the noise he makes when he's
just standing there.
Speaker 2: Sign for Saskatchewan says, is Pepo the best play club character?
R I p peopou?
Speaker 1: What about uh joeas j h sykicking something? Johnson super Fly?
Oh my god, they named him super Fly Johnson, Oh
my god. In in genre bet his big sword, he
named the character super Fly Johnson. Do you like more people?
Super Fly? Pretty great? I don't know. I keep it
keeps saying Joe's Jane in my head and laughed stupid.
I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: Pickle that was maybe my favorite pickle, Jeff Pickle. Giraffa
bit was the fake fighting fighting game screen where we're saying.
Speaker 1: Jonas James said in the voice of like a fighting
game announce there still sends me. Simon says, do you
think Mario Paint two is possible or a pipe dream?
As a kid, I had thirty minute time limits per
day on video games except Mario Paint good times. I
think off of offline, Jeff, we're talking. At one point,
I was like surprised I didn't see it at the thing.
But maybe there's a maybe there's a chance that the
tetto just never even remembered or thought about Mario Paint.
And it wasn't until we found out about the mouse.
Everyone online's like, wow, they're probably gonna do Mario Paint
that they were like, well, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2: So maybe they started making Mario Pate like two months ago,
and we will see it a couple of years.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it'll be Mario Pate will probably be
on Super Nintendo Classic like pretty soon, so we'll see
I hope.
Speaker 2: So, uh, next one is from Mike Kaminski. Did either
of you receive a confirmation email from Nintendo? I put
in my order pretty early. Itsef received one, but that
wasn't an order that we did on that website, right,
It was just as like an expressing interest thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me type in Nintendo into this email. I
don't think. I don't think I got one back from them.
Yeah I did not. I have not received anything from well. Yeah, no,
I just got to think the Nintendo Switch to buyers
what they need they are. They are doing it by
like the thing that like PlayStation Dad, where it's like
we're tracking how much you played and if you played enough,
then we'll let you in. I'm like, I played so
much Switch, I better get.
Speaker 2: I've played a lot of Switch. So if it's not that,
I feel pretty good. But yeah, we'll see how that
works exactly.
Speaker 1: That chu chu chew.
Speaker 2: It won't get notified until May eight. People are saying,
so yeah, so yeah, we'll see. I mean, look, I'm
gonna try to pre order one on the pre order
day elsewhere.
Speaker 1: To just to be safe, right, I'm gonna try to
pre order one if at a Best Buying Los Angeles apparently,
so we'll see.
Speaker 2: Simon is back saying ever heard of Wizards of War?
Addictive game? My childhood, my dad got C sixty four
for free in nineteen nineties. Commerce played many Commodore sixty
four games at limited games was still fun.
Speaker 1: Now I missed out on that like early computer gaming era.
Speaker 2: I think they sent me a Commodore sixty four mini
when that was a thing, and I messed around with
it a bit, but it's you know, it really wasn't
on my time. It was it was intellectually interesting, but
it wasn't super into any games. I do want to
play more old PC games. I think I saw that
a Calibath, whether that's called the game that Lord British
made before Ultima, is like free on Geo g so
I should just it's redeem that and play that. So yeah,
go get everyone, get a Calibeth on g OG so
we can all play like the first RPG together.
Speaker 1: It'll be great. Yeah. I think, like a bit after
the NES came out and we had that for a while,
my parents were like finally getting like the Apple too, e.
We had that, and then I think we had a
Commodore sixty four for a little bit, but at that
point it was already very old, so I didn't spend
a ton of time with it, but I was aware
of it and thought it was interesting. I typically played
a handful of games, and I recognize the words Wizards
of War, but I never played it. Next up is
Carlos Lopez.
Speaker 2: Our w RTS in regards to With regards to man,
I've never I've never seen that acronym before.
Speaker 1: It frequently, I think I looked it up like a
year ago or something like that. But yeah, regards to
eighty dollars, it's good. It's ghost.
Speaker 2: This industry squeezes its existing base without doing anything to
make this hobby reach more people. Lack of and magg
is staggering. Console gaming will never be for the masses.
I mean, it's the answer to the thing is right
in there right like it's never been for the masses.
They've tried to make it more appealing. They did the Wii,
and the Wii was a fad and it's passed. And
you know, consoles aren't growing, they're kind of staying at
the same So how do they make more money only
by raising prices on us suckers. Yeah, and the industry
is is growing and reaching more people on PC and
on mobile. So if we want Intend to continue to
be a console company, this is sort of what they're
going to keep doing to us. It's it is, I mean,
they kind of ran out of imagination. So yeah, this
is where we're at. Next up, is Willow Davis The
Treehouse showed off game chat sounds bad. Yeah, Like I'm
almost not even paying too much attention to it. I
just know it's a thing I'm probably not going to
use very much. If I ever do, it'll be maybe
when I'm playing Smash Brothers with friends or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's about it. Yeah. I could imagine like us playing
Mario Kart, like on Sunday morning, like, hey, everybody, let's
have a community to get together, and maybe I'll have
a team in there that I'm laying in bed playing
on the switch to using the microphone right next to
my mouth or something like that. That would be a
situation where I think it'll be fine. But they did
show people like having it plugged into a TV far
away and it sounded rough.
Speaker 2: Next up is from Trampoline Tails Help Drag Cross Drive
has the option to rebind the controls. As someone with
a wheelchair user in my family, it's just a point
seeing Nintundo potentially forced the use of physic a cool
motion to play it, which isn't very accessible. Yeah, it
is a good point. It's kind of ironic that this
game about people in wheelchairs. It seems pretty rigid and
the way you have to play it in a way
that might not be very accessible to people with this ability.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I even I didn't even think about that, which
is the whole point of like, yeah, we got to
have people who do think about this sort of thing
common on this stuff as well. Uh yeah, that's it
will be awkward.
Speaker 4: It would be the most intend, the most intend the
thing to do if they don't let you remount those controllers.
Speaker 1: Yep, for sure.
Speaker 2: God if the speaking of like I know, stupid input things,
did they ever make it so you could bind the
waggle stuff in honesty to a button? And if not,
I hope that's something that we get if they do
do a switch to version of that game, not just
a free update.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, no, not do.
Speaker 2: We talked about this, but one of the most exciting
things to me about that whole presentation was then they
finally show that an nso you can individually rebind controls
for a game. I literally would go into the system
and you every time I played a GBA game to
swap L and R because if by default it treats
the shoulder buttons as len R and not the triggers,
which is the where your fingers are resting, and drove
me crazy. So I would just have to go and
change that in the system level every time. Then I
will start playing an actual switch game.
Speaker 1: What's going on with? Yeah? Oh it drove me crazy,
so I was happy to do that.
Speaker 2: Tripling Towns also says, also, eighty dollars is absolutely ridiculous
and terrible. Again, this is the big sticking point, Jeff.
This is the one that I think is really hard
for people to swallow.
Speaker 1: Yep. I mean I think it's just because you plan
out your year. I'm gonna get this one, get that,
and eighty dollars just throws off that whole calculation.
Speaker 2: Hity cat Man ninety three says, turns out my Happy
Liberation Day post from yesterday was premature anyway. For a laugh,
look up what company ring the opening New York Stock
Exchange of Bell today, Pinie, Who was it?
Speaker 1: Who was it? I'll look real quick, you look that up.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I read this one from Chris Pratt. Me and Meo Son,
me and Meamoto song, excuse me try out game Chad
last night? Oh yeah, me and Meamoto Son tried out
game chat last night and he showed me his two
Are they allowed to do that? And can you show
Tupa on Game Chad? You can't show Dupa and Tupa
is probably even worse news called Newsmax ring the New
York Stock Exchange opening Bow, which is like the the
Fox News that was in d MC Devil may Cry,
like the version of that, but that in the real world,
like it's that newsback is crazy?
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah they are.
Speaker 2: They're a publicly traded company and now they are I
guess awesome, that's just fantastic.
Speaker 1: People still say dupa for butt. Did they ever see?
But was that just an Italian growing up thingspicy? Dupa? Yeah,
it's an Italian Italian. It's a good word for But
I like, I'll as that sounds like something would want
to say. I'll go ask her. No one's here to
stop you from saying dupa. There's so many things.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I had such an ethnic upbringing with
Dupa and pels.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're the most exotic person I know,
Mike Vanhatti, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: And though Viking says, greetings from the AAE in Boston,
thanks for keeping ups up to date. At the expense
of your personal expense of your personal beings. To be clear,
they wrote expense. I read it as expanse.
Speaker 1: And appreciate it. We're going to try to take some
time to ourselves here pretty soon, but we're happy to
be hanging out with the other night. I can't read
that funny nickname for me and chat, but that's pretty
that's funny them fresh can't do that. I don't chuck.
Tawski says, it's just Tawski from the future. I work
for Microsoft.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: We launched a handheld and undercut switched to price. Our
biggest hit is Blinks three. Congratulations, have listen love competition.
We are gonna at some point here, we're gonna have
to see what that like rog Xbox thing.
Speaker 1: Is again, is an A sus It'll be, you know,
with the Xbox layer on top of it. What is
the cheapest A sus rog so far has been It's
gotten down to like five hundred dollars, right, So that's
after prices stuff and maybe discounts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's rug Yeah, go ahead, aces
rog Ally A md rizin z one version at best
buy dot Com is five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see there will probably have to be at
least that. It's probably gonna be a little bit more
than that for like a new version. But hey, cool, Yeah,
I think that's what Nintendo's gonna have to deal with
that a little bit. But I think we saw the
Steam Dex sales numbers, which are very good for a
new market, but it was like three four million. I
think the whole segment of handheld PCs was at six
million now, so yeah, not real competition for Switch quite yet.
Speaker 2: Trywhere link says Greb. Loved your gamified Wealth disparity slash
Economy explainer video. Keep up the good fight capitalism sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for watching. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Diogo ur pieces, Hey dogs, have you seen that on
Mario Kart World? Waluigi just took Luji's tires and crudely
wrote wah on the beginning of the word.
Speaker 1: He's so cool. That's true, because that's incredible. I didn't
see that, but that's it seems like like that kind
of stuff might be in the game. Do you see
a Mariachi Waaluigi that Dan played as you gotta watch
that game spot Video's pretty I I gotta watch it yet.
That's great. Did you see a Daisy's in a bathing suit?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: And how do I? Okay, no one, I'm gonna go
look that up right now. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Next up is from Gwynn the Hunter by the Nine,
thoughts on our chances of getting an Oblivion remake this
month perhaps soon.
Speaker 1: Legiis the third.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so much has been happening, Jeff, I kind of
forgot about that Oblivion rebake thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where is that? Where's that show up? What's that? Yeah?
Where is that? I guess? I mean it's it's April. Now.
At any moment, we could start getting like Summer Game
Fest equivalent things popping off from these companies. Yeah, I
don't know. I would love that. I'm ready for Oblivion.
I hope they just recapture that game, just with Unreal
Engine five. I'm hopeful.
Speaker 2: Next up is Sick Jake. Oh excuse me, it's actually
from Philip Fortuna. First Nintendo willing to put Mario Kart
World bundled for a lower price, tells me that the
Mario Create eight DLC did really well and they will
do it again.
Speaker 1: Penis, Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. I also just
think it's they're looking at selling this thing over the
course of many years, and if the average price is
somewhere between the fifty because it's bundled in and the
eighty dollars at retail, so it ends up around sixty
or whatever, sixty five, I think they're going to be
very ham when that thing reaches fifty million coffees again.
Speaker 2: Sick Jake says, can Nintendo please just stick to ripping
us off in accessories and leave game prices alone. Appreciate
the extended switch covers this week. Thanks guys, Yeah, I wish.
I'm still shocked that they're the ones breaking the.
Speaker 1: Seal time to bring back the power glove. Which did
they make the power gloves?
Speaker 3: Do that?
Speaker 1: The power so.
Speaker 2: Ricky T says Eye gents, it's so cool that now
I have to pick between eating food and playing Mario Kart,
best Timeline.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the content. Enjoy the weekend. That's that's really
it though. It's and honestly like this, I do talk
about this in that video where it's like, how our
prices going up when it feels like no one has money,
and it's just you know, they're right, It's it's because
the averages. It's like, you know, when the rich have
so much money, it really does throw things off. So
these companies feel like money is going somewhere. Ye'll snub
back to the people.
Speaker 2: You can all trickle down any moment. Now we're gonna
get trickled on so fucking hard. You want to believe
how trickled you are.
Speaker 1: That's what Minna told me. That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben says, Hey, dogs, do you think the pricing
sentiment may push Nintendo to reintroduce game vouchers and do
you think they'll raise the NSO prices. I think they're
just trying to get pretty much everybody on the expansion pass.
Speaker 1: Uh. And you know there was a lot of incentives
for that. That's sixty dollars a year for the expansion
pack is still like so cheap that I'm like, I
bet it does go up and people won't actually hate, Like, Okay,
it's sixty or seventy dollars a year now, that's still
much cheaper than a lot of others. Maybe they'll give
that a moment. Maybe, Yes, I think you might be
right in this moment. They actually might. Wait, they'll they
will reintroduce switch to game vouchers, but I think we
joked on last night's show it'll be one hundred and
forty hundred and fifty dollars or whatever for two games,
So don't get your hopes up that it's gonna be
some great deal.
Speaker 2: Chris Pratt's back and says meamoto son showed me this
DK Bazoonga game. He looks really mad when he was
telling me that they didn't let him add a candy
con to the game.
Speaker 1: He loves candy Kong. When DoD you know that about Miamoto,
he's basically tex Avery for the text, a wolf for
candy coll Yeah, we added another new sexy ape character,
gold Little Stick and like pink hair. Yeah. Sure, Hitch says,
Last of Us Too is the last Daisy bikini Jesus, No,
Last of Us Too is the last PlayStation PC port.
Speaker 2: It's wild that they were like, at first, we thought
we weren't getting dai z in that Striker's game because like, oh,
they don't want to show sexy Daisy. Now she's just
in a bikini.
Speaker 1: And you can get fifty different Hintai games per day
on the switch. So I think the canon's changed a
little bit, Hitch says. Last of Us Too is the
last PlayStation PC port to be announced and released. What's
next you think? And why is PlayStation allergic to letting
Nixies go crazy with pre twenty seventeen PlayStation game. It's
just math. I think they're just looking at the games
that are more recent and being like these ones will
be one actually easier to move to PC right now
because they were made with like PS four, PS five
in mind, and those are basically PCs, and they also
have mind share still, so they don't won't take a
ton of marketing to get them going. I think it's
a combination of those things. They'll eventually probably start looking
at previous games. But what what's left though, Like from
recent history PlayStation I mean there's Devon Souls. Oh Souls
is probably next, Yeah, Astrobot eventually maybe, I don't know, Bloodborne, Yeah, Astrobot.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Dan's in chattn't think Dan understood our talk
about Daisy, but that's okay, Dan.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Next up is gigazol.
Speaker 2: I was planning on holding off getting one at launch
because they thought they'd do an old LED later. Do
you think that they'll have an old model in a
year or two given the fancier LCD love this show man,
I don't think it's a year two for like, it
might be three or four. And also this time maybe
it is actually the old ed model is a full
on pro. Maybe not, but that could be the case
this time. Yeah, I hope we don't have to wait
two years for O LED would be fantastic.
Speaker 1: I would. I would get that, and then I would
still get a switch to pro if they were to
drop that four years down the road. I think I do.
They probably do have a switch to light next year
to go with Pokemon. Those what we were saying yesterday.
No guarantee on an O LEAD in two years though,
So I don't know this LCD is gonna be good,
especially with HDR. You're gonna be fine with it.
Speaker 2: I think m Brittany Deue says people are really underestipating
the general audience. There'll be more against these prices in
the hardcore and they are the majority here. We'll see
they maybe it could be the other way.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 2: Could be the other way even but yeah, that's definitely
you know what'll come down to, Like when it's your hobby.
Speaker 1: Super sensitive to these prices like I was saying this
on the show today Game Breaking News, where it's we're
a price sensitive group because we know how much these
things should cost, because we've been involved with it and
buying every single game that we've been interested in for
decades in some cases, and we know the history of
the price increases. We know when it went from fifty
to sixty, and we know what it was like when
it went from sixty to seventy and all that stuff.
We're paying attention to that. It's because we're very sensitive
to it, and the general audience I don't think is
quite as sensitive that. Sure, many em understand that this
is what a game has cost for a long time,
but I think if that goes up, I just they're
not buying that. When they are telling the sword of
themselves to make the purchase, it is I am going
to get this, and it's seventy bucks or now eighty
bucks to entertain my family, and that is comparative to
a night at the movies. It's actually still not that
bad of a deal. But I think there's another audience
out there, the people that bought the switch one for
animal Crossing, that yeah, if animal crossing is eighty bucks,
maybe it doesn't do as well this time.
Speaker 2: Next up is a Jedi Moss, who says, how does
Sony and Microsoft respond to the tariffs? Xboxes and Places
device are just as vulnerable as switched.
Speaker 1: To I'm sorry, I was distracted. What's the question? One
second I lost it because YouTube freaked out. Basically, how
is that? What are Xbox and Places gonna do about
the tariffs? They're just as vulnerable. Raise prices. Yeah, I mean,
I think if these tariffs stick, which we just don't know,
and really at this point it doesn't matter because it's
so uncertain the back and forth, and he says, one
minute there will be tariffs, one minute there won't be
that you kind of have to operate under the worst
case scenario assumption if you're these companies. I think I
think these consoles probably go up in price, or we
get maybe we get some really scaled down revisions of
these consoles that maybe take out features so they could
try to save money. The Xbox series are yeah, yeah,
that's one before s okay, yeah, okay, I was like
doing it and I have like, I get what he's
going for now, and then uh, yeah, game prices. They're
gonna they're gonna want to raise game prices. They've wanted
to raise game prices, they wanted to Yeah, they're gonna
do all that stuff. So that's what it means for them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Next up is from the Bulletproof Moon. I counterpicked Silk Song.
Please tell them everything will be okay, Pelvis, Look, you
get no simpy from me. I got freaking I got
the very first pick, finally one of these things, and
it's for a game that probably isn't coming up this year.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm still doing Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm so curious to see who gets Donkey Kong because
we all think everybody wants s Donky Kong, so the
bids for it are going to be just really high.
Speaker 1: And I don't.
Speaker 2: I already got a lot of games early on, so
I'm not I don't have that. I have a good
amount of money to play with. But you know, we
saw Jan spend like eighty bucks or Tony Hawk three
plus four. There's gonna be some freak that spends a
ridiculous amount of money on it that gets it.
Speaker 1: Yep, I am concerned that I'm probably not gonna get it.
But yeah, there's still more games coming this year. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Next one is from tuber. I'm trying to
enjoy some gaming and you have to remind me of
that horrible tragedy. Sorry too, bear My by Greatness says
morning gents, love your work. Do you think the switch
to joy cons or pro control will have analog triggers
that would certainly help with racing games? Tears, big ears.
It looks like they don't, right. I remember that was
one of the surprising things when I was like, oh,
I hope they have analog triggers, and Sean and other
people are like, no, that's it's a good thing that
it doesn't. Never occurred to me that there is a
downside to analog triggers, but I guess I see the point.
But I'd still would rather have analog triggers personally, I
everything else has analog triggers, so for just for parity's sake,
I want it.
Speaker 1: And I tried playing Trials on the switch without analog triggers. Yeah,
a nightmare. Give us analog triggers.
Speaker 2: Come on, there's a lot of games that. Yeah, look,
any any game involving a vehicle, analog triggers are just good.
There's a lot of games involving vehicles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like that. It doesn't look like it,
I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd look when they showed the Pro two,
which I was looking, and it absolutely did not look
like we had analogs obviously the joy cons, I'm pretty
sure we don't. Yeah, Brono Trigger says hate dogs. Do
we know if regular switch one games will get any
kind of performance boost on the switch to? Also, have
you seen those new Amibo prices?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: What are what are? What are amiebo prices? That's I
don't know what they were before. I know, I don't
know what they are now. But I think we're like
fifteen each before. I don't know what the new ones are.
I think regular switch one games it's gonna be a crapshoot.
I think if anything has unlocked frame rates, there's a
good chance you'll have a performance boost if it's locked,
just no, unless they get an update, and then if
it has unlocked frame rates. There are some games that
because it's a mix between hardware and software emulation, although
it sounds like it's mostly software emulation, some games might
just be weird, weird and don't operate the way you want,
which is how it has frequently worked on other consoles,
so this is not some big Nintendo problem. It's just
the way that this backward compatibility goes sometimes.
Speaker 2: In ten, Derek says, can you guys please fix that
influential games less you mentioned on Game Breaking News? Eventually
it is. It's pretty wild just to not like make
Super Mario Brothers number one or something, or Punk or whatever,
metal gear solid.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would even like a wizardry like like
an RPG. Yeah wind every RG stuff is in everything,
so you know.
Speaker 2: Exactly h yeah, baby, we'll do something like that at
some point. Joe Beezer says, how confident should I be
in thinking I have already secure to switch to you
through the Nintendo Store. I meet all the requirements for
a priority. I I wouldn't assume anything. Try to pre
order one elsewhere on the ninth when that happens, and
if you write, if you secure one there, then you
can cancel this one if you also get in there
or figure out and help me make sure I get one,
so right exactly, No, I would not assume that you're
good there.
Speaker 1: That is a backup as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: Right out for me, Well, that Davis says, still no
analog triggers on the Pro control something the joy CONTs.
Speaker 1: Not going to be on the Pro controller. Yeah, they're
not going to have like different button inputs on different controllers.
Speaker 2: Hey you, Peka Blue says, to celebrate filing my taxes surplus,
maybe my unapployment, I'll throw you some venis. Thank you here,
you Peka Blue. I miss getting a surplus. I miss
getting money back when I did my taxes, but a
we misted contract work at Giant bum and Twitch. There's
all sorts of untexted h income I have these days.
Yep x Proof says, when do we see high Fi
rush on switch to penzo.
Speaker 1: Or that was rumored? Right, it's rumored.
Speaker 2: I mean Xbox seemed almost deliberately not involved in that,
and you'd have to imagine some stuff like why not
try to get c if thieves on here?
Speaker 1: Was also rumored. So I bet those guys just show
up on switch to here pretty soon, probably before the
end of this year. Why not Indiana Jones Microsoft? Do
you think they probably don't have switched to dev kits?
I mean maybe it's maybe it's just weird enough for
Nintendo that They're like, you'll get in the next wave,
like once it's announced, that's possible. Maybe they're they're making
a handheld competitor, so maybe Nintendo's like, let's just not
give you that a deaf kate yet. Maybe that's true.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see how you Peeka Blue says have also,
have you watched the new White Lotus season? I have
not watched any White Lotus season myself.
Speaker 1: How about you, Jeff, I've never watched any White Lotus
Maybe one day my plex. Uh okay, well then give
me add me to your plex. Yeah, I'll allow you
to plex. Yeah. I want to stream some games from
across the countries that I bet that's super illegal or
super legal, I should say. I I like watching shows
here and there. White Lotus is definitely just sort of
on the list, and like I just watched Severance one
that people were super into for a very long time,
and I'm like, this is only okay for me, So
I'm kind of not sure about White Loadus either.
Speaker 2: Poky exists seven hundred Australian dollars for the console, seven
hundred and seventy for the bundle, one hundred and twenty
for Mario Kart world just another day in video games.
I'm down under.
Speaker 1: Peep on this? What else?
Speaker 2: Like why exactly do some territories like Australia and Canada
get bent over so badly on these things?
Speaker 1: It's there's it's multi factors, but it's definitely the value
of their currency. That's definitely what it is in Canada.
In Australia, I do think there are some import tariffs,
like as not as as extreme as what Trump is
talking about for US could bring stuff here, but also
shipping stuff to Australia is expensive. There's limited capacity on
ships and stuff like that. It's just not as as
robust as like shipping lanes to other countries like the
United States. And then then the currency is also you know,
deflated relatively relatively speaking, and it's it's just not as
worth it to them. So it's like they're just like,
let's set it at a higher proce to kind of
make up for that. For US, it's unfair. That's the
way it goes.
Speaker 4: Yes for people to understand, how like sometimes tariff because
I have terriffs here in Argentina and sometimes there's there
are tariffs onlike components inside console and that that will
like affake the price of the entire thing, and that's
I assume that's also what's going on in Australia.
Speaker 1: Australia, it's the currency, it's the shipping, and maybe some tariffs.
In South America, it's definitely often mostly tariffs, especially like Brazil.
Brazil has like a twelve hundred dollars tariff onlike new
consoles and shit like that unless you make them in
that country, which is why for a long time there
they would make like last Gen consoles in Brazil because
it has a really it's really populous and it can
kind of afford these things. But like we'll make Genesis
in Brazil for fifteen years after the Genesis is a thing,
that sort of thing. Oh yeah, and they will like
develop games. It's way up to this. Yeah, I'm sprugal.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Darius Hines says, shout out to two of my most
favorite tale Tara Enigmas on YouTube.
Speaker 1: That'd be very slow and deliberate with that. How difficult
do you guys think it will be the signor switch
to this Wednesday? You love that. It's just I'm just
shouted Darius, uh brother giving you about that. It's very
funny to me. I just love that. Thank you so much. Man,
I'm so glad that we still all remember.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: It really is. Oh man.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, maybe talk the mystic of me, Jeff,
but I think if you stay on top of it
and you really want to get a switch super order,
I believe in you.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to be able to do it. Uh,
you just have to be super on top of things. Yes,
that's right, the top of things.
Speaker 2: Be ready, you know, look up, look at sixty four
or whatever like pick you know, get your get your
your Walmart tab, your Target tab, your whatever. Heaven forbid
a game stop tabby and I don't know what it takes,
but the best buy whatever you need to do. Matt
Raremuckey says, game Pass looking better, does it get more folks?
Game Pass has been a very good deal for a
long time, right, And it's for whatever reason, it still
seems like it got the people will got and not
grow very much.
Speaker 1: Because it's like it's a different thing than convincing people
to buy the Xbox hardware, which is where they hit
the wall. And they had a chance this earlier, this
generation to deliver on a bunch of games and now
that they are. It's it is maybe not even too little,
but it is just too late. It's too late to
undo that to get people excited about buying xboxes, especially
now that they're putting games out everywhere. So for as
much of a game pass is a good deal, people
are like, well, you know what's even better deal not
spending three hundred to five hundred dollars on a console
and just buying the Indiana Jones when it comes to
my PlayStation. So they've they've topped out what they did
from game pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, yeah, I do wonder if got a big,
big game and they had called Duty on there and
amid that was up, So I don't know what.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about Sopham in Night reviews, but they
came out. They were like, you know, fine, it's a
seven seventy eight metacritics like, you know, good, not amazing, yep,
great and not that far off.
Speaker 1: From a vowed in the low eight. I'm gonna try
to play it some before BombCast. We'll talk about it
next week. I think. Okay, a couple more here.
Speaker 2: Jason Fulton, just a PSA, finally tried the Arby's Gyro
or euro whatever you want me to say.
Speaker 1: Don't be mad at me, everybody.
Speaker 2: It turns out the sauce is incredibly similar to the
sub sauce they used on the roast beef sub in
the nineties. Thought the beef and cheddar boys would want
to know, is.
Speaker 1: This a new euro? Because I've had the euro before,
like a Turkey euro, right that they have that, I've
tried that. It was good to have an authentic like
I don't know, I don't know. I don't mess with
euros or let alone Arby's gros. I want my I
want my beef. I give you the beef for my
shwarma today. And that hits so hard because I was
like craving all like these pickled vegetables and stuff because
the zembie was hitting me hard. It's like that those
kinds of stuff go down really well when I'm not
hungry for anything else. So I can tell you about
my kimchi butter wings I had in Florida. No I
thought about you.
Speaker 2: It was the people my friends took me to a
restaurant like Orlando, not in a theme park. You know me,
I was like, we aren't we leaving the park, But no,
trust me, this place is great. And it was like
you know this, uh, I forget it's called Nobu or
something like that, and you know they did ramen and
I got just like I learned from that one time
Jeff when I just got the noodles in broth and
how disgusting that kind of was, like it ever think
the rom was very good, but apparently the face is
famous for this appetizer of wings that are it's a
kimchi butter sauce and they were probably the best wings
I ever had.
Speaker 1: You would have really liked that. I love wings and
I love kim chi. Damn okays wings I ever had.
I don't knowing too. Yeah, shit was good, okay.
Speaker 2: Jacob bench is where the chances that d K is
not made by the three D Mario team and they
reveal three D Mario layers year very low, Like maybe
that lasts thing could be three D Mario lays. I
just don't see that, But come on, that game's made
by the Mario team. Who else would make it? Looks
it looks like it'd be made by Mario team. There
was that rumor years ago that this is exactly what
the Mario team was doing and that's not a cool wincident.
They pointed out they've made Donkey Kong games before this
three D Mario team, and then.
Speaker 1: A good Vibe Gamings. If you weren't here earlier, Jacob
Koizumi was just watching people in New York play that
game for a long time, and he's the Mario three
D Mario Team guy. So it's very, very very low.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Could the three D Mario Team be actively working on
a Mario game right now because they mostly finished work
on this years ago, because it was maybe going to
be like a switch pro sort of like launch thing,
and now they were like, let's just kind of ramp
it up a little bit and make it switch to exclusive. Maybe,
But I don't know. I'm trying not to get my
hopes up, because listen, I'm happy for this. I think
this game looks fucking awesome and I can't wait to
play it. I'm not gonna like, look a gift horse
in the mouth. We'll get a three D Mario game
when we get it. I hope it's not eight years
from now. Obviously it won't be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably wasn't. By the ways, that restaurant in
Orlando's called Dome MoU think you had them asleep. Apparently
Nobo was something else that people got upset that I suggested.
It was that I don't know what nobu is, but
it triggered people. Sorry, but Dome MoU in Orlando go
to do MoU.
Speaker 1: Everybody was fantastic. One more came in, Jeff, just Rex,
how long.
Speaker 2: Their launch do you think it will be before the
switch shoe gets jail broke in. I won't be connecting
mine to the Internet in anticipation. I won't pay eighty
dollars for any video game pirate flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they definitely are building the switch to
almost entirely with this in mind. In fact, I'm like,
I won't be surprised if the reason they didn't do
a switch pro was they wanted to get completely away
from the switch architecture so that they could in fact
rework how they do security on this thing. Now, I
think there's going to be a very concerted effort by
that community to crack this thing open as soon as
possible to get emulators run. They will, they will, They're
gonna go ham on this thing.
Speaker 4: These folks get so horny when they're like like this, Yeah,
it's almost like, the harder the more they wanted to break.
Speaker 1: And especially when it's like and prices are going up
and people are feeling like they're in their feelings about this,
they're gonna go hard at it. So we'll see. But
I bet, I bet Nintendo and Vidia had years of
conversations about everything they can do to prevent exactly what
you're talking about, So it maybe it could be as
much as two years. I bet it's about a year
before we really were really talking about this thing being cracked.
Speaker 2: All right, that's it for now, Jeff, thank everybody. We'll
read any more super chests that come in before the
end of the show. Oh it's my show, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Hey, We're bad. I'm done. Oh my god, I'm fucking cooked.
Welcome back to the show, everybody. I was just waiting
for Mike to bring back and he was looking at
me like, I'm a crazy person. We're gonna do a
Mount Rushmore video game Primates. Uh, we're doing this cause
Daisy was in a bathing suit. I think, yeah, that's
exactly what the reason we do anything anymore. Mike, what
is your idea here?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Primates for meeting like monkeys apes, not humans, right, not humans.
The no Goku rule has never been more important. That's
a good one. That's a good joke. Like that a lot.
All right, So where do we start? Uh be Donkey Kong.
I believe it should be considered that seems honestly. Is
is it Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong? That's an important question.
I mean it's not impossible it could be two. Uh
So maybe like is that number two for you? Is
Diddy Kong your favorite next Kong character? Yeah, cranky along,
Cranky Kong's good. That's okay, I mean there's funky Kong. Yeah,
I was about to cranky you were talking about og
Donkey Kong because Donkey is Cranky Kong. They like fudge
that or whatever. But like they definitely have just even
that sure about that anymore. No, they weren't. Then they
were just kind of like being cute about it.
Speaker 2: Rare was so it never made sense, Like Mario is
not like Mario's Sun in one of those games.
Speaker 1: So let's say Mario Mari, I don't know, just completely differently,
and Diddy Kong is not Donkey Kong Junior. Donkey Kong
Junior is a separate ape. But I don't know if
I need to put Donkey Kong Junior on this list,
but we can consider him if you want. Mike. I
don't know. No, No, that's that's fine. We don't need all.
We don't need Candy Kong, we don't need Lanky Kong.
I'm just sad. Why are you inserting another ad?
Speaker 2: Holy shit, Dixie Kong's pretty good, but we don't need
we don't need it, we to I think I think
this is fine for these are all the main Donkey
Kong's that we can consider.
Speaker 1: That's Okay's four there so then other primates. The first
one that comes to mind is I think I I
from Super monkey Ball For me personally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, no, no, I like I like I I
a lot. Gosh, yeah monkey Ball is great. Speaking of
launch games, super monkey Ball was such a good like
here's your second or third game cube launch game, right,
mm hmm. Maybe that's that's part of it, Like this
this switch to launch again, like very safe for Mario Kart.
When I like, think about other launches like what the
GameCube did, or even if you guys like, okay, this
launch anyways.
Speaker 1: Like the Squadron four on this thing that would go
hard oh, maybe that would be good. What about Winston
from Overwatch? That would have been my next one for sure.
Winston is yeah, Winston's girl star Primate. Yeah he's got yeah,
I mean cool character. He is a cool character.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily love playing s M with just his
you know, autoim electricity thing, but it's it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the character's cool. The voice is great.
Speaker 2: You know when he showed up that first Overwatch troil,
which is so cool with like him and Tracer's still
two of the best characters in the game.
Speaker 1: That really that really worked for me. Those good stuff.
I'm gonna go with the apes from Ape Escape?
Speaker 2: Do you want to would you do Spike the bad
guy because he was the ape that became a bit
more humanized when he found the thing, So that's like
a named one.
Speaker 1: I don't know, would you do that? Because I'm okay
with that. I just I think of like the generic
apes Runner, I just think of the generic ape.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I guess I like the generic aape more than a Spike. Also, yeah,
you're right, yeah, I like them a lot, and there's
just a bunch of them. That's fine that they don't
have names. I still consider them up there as important
apes in video games. Yeah, and Ross, Yeah, I like
that one.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you if you don't like Andross, well Andros's
enemy is my nemyh. I played through Star Fox sixty
four not too long ago, and that's still a cool
bus fight at the end with this is giant expressive face.
Speaker 1: I love shooting Andross's eyes. It feels really good. Uh
you said no Goku's do you? Does that mean?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Monkey from Let's See Enslaved Odyssey to the West. I mean,
do you feel that strong about that thing?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, I don't, but him it is, he's literally Goku.
It's just he's definitely more of a monkey than a human.
So like God, maybe, but not. I don't think he
even makes He doesn't rate on this list even, can
I can? I give one? Yeah, little Gray from Metal
Year Solid.
Speaker 2: Four, Little Gray at that hairless? Is that that weird
looking naked monkey?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you like that thing? It's funny. He's a
pretty pretty funny little guys. Just yeah, he does drink soda.
We'll consider it. We'll consider it. I was going to
consider this one and I saw it in chat as well.
Mankey prime Ape.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, what is the pokey moond
monkey you would do? Because there's some fern ape and
some other ones a palm. I never liked any of
the Pokemon monkey's very much personally, like Okay, I like
Manky enough. I don't I guess I don't like a
nile lape. Was that already turns into annihil ape? Fer
Nape's the last one there? Okay, but no, makey Makey
becomes prime ape, prime ape.
Speaker 1: Prime Ape. That's it. There's nothing after that. Okay, yes, yeah,
just too, that's a that was a line of two. Okay, yes,
it was the one fifty one. I got you, Yeah,
I I you know, I don't like uh. I like
Minkey enough, but maybe not. He's not going to probably
push any of the calls off this list. For example,
I just don't think he's gonna Yeah, it's gonna be
rough for Manky to make it on there. Oh, Grooky,
I do like Grooky. I'm part of the Grooky Gang,
Cookie Gang, Grooky Gang, Grooky Gang, Grooky Gang. It was Grooky.
He's is any one of the starter monkey pokemon from
a recent Pokemon Oh, that's right, that's like another Monkey,
keep doing monkeys like Grooky. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I don't like the Pokemon monkey,
you know, I do like though. Jeff is Amigo from
Samba Day Amigo. Oh sure, he plays so hard. He
plays those sambas like Kary none other.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a migo, just spelled like amigo, right ilias
So yeah, not two eyes like me, No, definitely not. No,
that'd be fun though, is bubbles of Goku? Well he's
in Moonwalker. Oh my god, Michael Jackson's monkey go unfortunate,
But that's a goku. Yeah, that's right. Oh gosh, that's
what did anybody like that? New? I did not play it.
I didn't try to. Yeah, I think I got a coaching.
I should try it somebody.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: George from The Rampage, Oh, that's fantastic friend. I love that.
The Rock's friend, Rock's friend. Yes, I'm gonna put Rampage
in here. And just so we're clear, that's fun. I
like that. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I was calling that ape Escape villain Spike. That's Specters
in the name right right. My beds must not be
that memorable. Yeah, the Apes, I think, Oh, Spark Mandro
spark Mandrel, though, huh, what's spark spark Manjoe is a
mega man next boss? Okay, you want that on, I'll
tell you and you tell me, Jeff, what you think
technically a robot.
Speaker 1: Andros is? Is Andrews just an ape? Or is he
like a space mech ape?
Speaker 2: He's not a mech he has a robot fake sometimes
I forget. Yes, maybe it's close enough. Look, we don't
have to consider spark spark Man is probably not gonna
make it anymore.
Speaker 1: Goodbye spark Mandro. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Do you care about the time spliter monkey? I see
some people saying that, but I mean, I don't hate
it except for now.
Speaker 1: It makes me think about that that movie about Robbie
Williams where they made him play it as a cgi
monkey because they has similar vibes. So maybe I do
kind of hate it, even though I kind of like
Robbie Williams. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I think we can maybe start with waring it down, Jeff,
I think we got all the ones that need to
super be considered here.
Speaker 1: Here, here's what we have so far. Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong,
cranky Kong, funky Kong. I I Winston, the apes from
Ape Escape and Ross Little Gray, Amigo, George from Rampage. Okay,
that's pretty good. Yeah, this is good. I see a
lot on here that I like quite a bit. I'll
watch the Robbie Williams with everybody. I do like him.
Everyone in chat stand's kind of good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too bad much. I love Monkey Island. There
are some monkeys in the game. There's nobody I would
like pull from that into this. There's no like memorable monkey.
There's the three headed monkey, sure, I suppose, but even
then it's a stretch.
Speaker 1: Ape from Secro is a good shout, but maybe not
enough of a character. Really good boss, I don't know.
How do you feel, Mike? I mean god, it's one
of the Yeah, that's one of the most memorable boss
fights of all time.
Speaker 4: Pretty yeah, somebody, Yeah, this is not gonna get any
attraction here. But Raghun from Monster Hunters pretty like one
of the best apes ever. Ap turns yellow and shoots
like lighting out of his mouth.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: You got to give me this one because he said
Sean's not here. But Data from Mega Man Legends, that's
the monkey you say that. I love Data a lot sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's on the short list for sure. There you go.
I love data all right, yeah, oh go ahead. Donkey
Kong's lock right, yes, Donkey Kong's clearly locked that end.
George fucking Washington like clearly yeah, come on, Like, what
are we doing here? Uh? Well, I like it Gan
Dross quite a bit and works for me, so I'm
gonna bowld him. I don't know if he's a lot
lot old, but he's bolded.
Speaker 2: Just to make sure the ape out ape. By the way,
the chat has brought that up.
Speaker 1: I love that game, and there's a reason he didn't
occur to me. So now, yeah, character itself as well. Uh,
I mean, like I did, he is close and so
it's cranky. So here's the other the other ones I'm
like considering. I like George Rampage a lot. I think
he's close to making the cut. He's definitely no guarantee.
And Winston has has got to be considered.
Speaker 2: I think Winston's really good. Yeah, I like Winston a lots.
That's such a good character. It's hard not to do
that one. And then there's a yeah, there's some I
like these other songs. There's just some there there's so
many other good ones. That's a little ye to be. Like,
here's two Donkey Kong characters.
Speaker 1: Like two Donkey Kong characters, and no, I I feels
a little rough. Yeah right, like I eyes good. I
like a migo. Yeah like data.
Speaker 2: But you known, like the apes for Rape Escape. You
say monkeys and video games. I do just almost immediately
picture those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, same, God, they probably are Mount Rushmore. Geez,
that's tough. Okay, Yeah, the apes and Rape Escape are
pretty freaking good. I'm gonna bold the ones we've been
talking about right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah, gosh, I love Data, but Little
Gray is not gonna make it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Christian, Okay, jeez, Okay, so the rest of the
Kongs little Gray Data, sorry, Data, look at that. Okay,
let me try one more time. Cape one doesn't cut properly.
It's just I'm hitting control X, but it's not doing it.
Oh well, let's just do this. There we go congs
all right, Yeah, Winston's bolded consideration. Okay, so that means
we're Donkey Kong is a lock. So that we have
three spots for these six I I Winston the apes
from Ape Escape Andross, Amigo and George from Rampage. I'm
gonna cut George from Rampage.
Speaker 2: I like I'm going to cut a Bgogo's not gonna
make it all right.
Speaker 1: I like George, but yes, just it's a little rough here. Yes,
and I like Amigo as well. And whenever i'm I'm
dec maybe the one that's the easiest to picture in
my head, like he's just got such a strong, good look. Okay,
So then I I Winston, the Apes from Ape Escape,
and andros Uh, we have three spots left, we have
four of them? Who are we cutting? That's rough? There's
like Andross.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, he's like a humified ape, which is
maybe the reason why he should be Ho it's a
little different like the apes.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, well, that's like a whole group of characters.
But does that matter? Who cares?
Speaker 2: Winston's really good? I Eye is really good. God, Oh,
haven't get rid of just one of these is rough?
Because that would be like so happy? Was these five?
That was really good?
Speaker 1: For sure? Yes, I think I personally lean towards cutting
and Ross, but I would be okay with cutting ie Ie.
It's tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, Eye it's like such a monkey. You know,
it's just such a that is such a monkey.
Speaker 1: I do think I think the Apes may Escape are
a lock personally, Do you not? I think the Apes
of Escape are a lock. Ok.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing with I Eye. It's like, not
necessarily he's like the poster child for monkey Ball. Yet
do I love i Ee that much?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For sure, I like he's not even the character
I necessarily pick. I pick the big guy of the
Gongong or whatever. Yeah, I like, I think I like
can drust more than I I think we cut eye ee. Okay,
that's I think we cut Eye Eye Eye such a monkey.
But yep, absolutely see here, Okay, it looks like so
our our Mount Rushmore would look like Donkey Kong the
Ape Stream Ape Escape, Winston and Andros. I mean that's
mad at us.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: People are like I I I mean, I think I
think people are are split. And listen, I think we
kind of need Winston on there because we do need
someone from this uh from this Yeah, little Linum, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of getting called Boomer all the time and
the one time I like include the character from past
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: People are mad. Yeah, when it's.
Speaker 2: It's correct, all of papers say, I, that's pretty good, Dom,
that's pretty good. Why Winston, though he's from Overwatch was
one of those popa games ever and he was the
signature character from that and was very cool in it. Yeah,
why not Winston?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Winston definitely is on here. Okay. I mean, look,
it stinks to leave off I I and also Amigo
and Joy and honestly even like some of the other Kongs.
But that's the way it is.
Speaker 2: We're not like some of these people are anti Overwatch
these I get it, but like, I'm sure there's a
bit there where like that was it was like super
Glove and people are like, what, I'm shocked that Winston's
getting this much pushback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're right in the wrong. We're right about Winston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just get let's just putlanky Kong in the
other three slots. Okay, So the people are saying, who
is Winston, they're trolling My god, my god, he's Winston.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Peter Jackson's King Kong is funny, but that's a that's
a goku. Yeah, Peter Jenkson's King Kong is a Goku.
Everybody that's what everyone's always saying. Yeah, I mean, I like,
we just talked about it, he said. I just explained
who Winston was. Now they're just they're just trying to
make me shoot off. You guys are insane. Rush for
a video game. Primates is Monkey Kong the apes for
mape Escape, Winston and Andros. I'm locking it in, Mike?
Is that okay with you? Oh? So I just said
this is a Dana monkey. He does have a tail.
Speaker 2: He's not a monkey though, he's not a monkey. Yes, this, Uh,
we'll lock it in. We'll lock it in.
Speaker 1: All right. There we go over short episode almost two hours.
God blink and you'll miss it. Everybody, all right, any
more super chats Mike? No, yeah, we just just had
it here. I'm not going to talk about any video
all right. Good Screwed is Fun is a really good one.
I like it too. I just I got I started
playing another game instead and took up all my time.
All right, I'm hitting that button, which it takes us,
it says, yeah, that's two minutes before that song is done.
Everybody is spam. Who's Winstead in? Chat?
Speaker 3: Please? Uh?
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Mike Manati where can people find you
on the internet. Tell them about that new episode of
Nineties Disney, all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, New Nineties Disney, about Star Trek, the experience in Vegas.
We like to do something outside of Disney on our
April episode for Funzies, so I had a really great
time talking about that. I hope you will take a
look and that. But yeah, I'll probably be streaming it's
some this week. I gotta I gotta finish Doom Eternal,
made some other fun things. I got the new new
computer locked in. It seems to be working great, so good.
Speaker 1: That's good. So yeah, Twitch, DV slash, tilkoto. I am
gonna be doing Giant Bomb stuff tomorrow. I'll probably do
a Q and A this weekend. Tomorrow. VCR plan is
to get Dan and hopefully Jan both on there to
talk about their trip to New York to see the
Switch to We'll have a bunch of questions for them.
I think it just kind of tell us their general
feelings as well. I just want to hear, like what
Dan's thinking about some of those games that he got
to play. You know, do you think it's a strong
enough lineup based on actually playing them? So we'll have
that conversation. That'll be a good time. That'll be BCR
after game breaking news, and then after that we'll do
a upf where I think we're gonna play that Parkore game,
the new park Core game came out this week. We're
gonna hang out and jump around and be idiots in
that game. It'll be a good time. So thanks for watching,
Thanks for listening. Jeff, please please lower the price of
the switch too. I'm working on it, man, I'll see
what I can do. I'm gonna double it, bucket, raise
the price. These people don't deserve nice things. Yeah, I
want to. I want to switch to real bad, especially
seeing these hands on previews where people are just using
it and it looks so good. It looks like premium.
It does I mean not to like, it looks great
and that's like, that's kind of a fun thing. I thought.
Speaker 2: I was like, man, maybe I'll never have to play
like a subsifty per second game on my witch again.
Was you know from Nintendo anyways?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, exactly too much? Everybody, all right, thanks for watching,
Catch you next time and goodbye.
Speaker 3: They are going to come for Zelda, slung Is, Jackmouth
and a reinforced Cafe.
Speaker 1: A penis. I have been plenty horny, thank you, all right,
we're out, all right, break good, break good, tist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you remind me of in Legal Pleason,
their releases like five hundred dollars skin and whoever had it,
they can have to not use it because whenever somebody
saw so them use the skin, they would run it
down the middle and just feed all the time. Like
the entire team will throw the game because they the
most expensive skin and.
Speaker 2: They gave it.
Speaker 1: That's fun, that's good. That's pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, I know,
he said, shorter episode. We're bad at it. Yeah, we try.
I didn't want to do the Monk rushmore. But like
he's say apes, you say monkeys. He said primates, right, okay,
so I think it's both as primates, both Christian. I
can't remember right now. I don't know. I know I
am an ape. I don't know if I'm a primate.
I think no, I think we're a primate. I don't
know if we are primate. We're not apes. We were
like part of the great Apes, which is separate from
the world. Apes said, how they said on that term.
Speaker 4: I remember when in that in that sign for episode
when Kramer and yells at the monkey, Sooe Keeper is like,
he's a he's a poor ape.
Speaker 1: So am I humans? Apes? Yes, humans are ape specific.
We are great apes. Okay, so great apes count as apes.
That's fair, all right? I know Adam Driver is from
them movie, that's right, The Ape of God or whatever? Yeah, whatever, right?
I think Sarah skin I was like talking to Dan
and it's like, you know, whenever someone like knows like
Simpsons references, I know they're gonna be a cool person.
My version of that is definitely Mystery Science Theater. If
you get a good, good number of the Mystery Science
Theater two thousand references, we're probably gonna get along. I
don't even know them camera and that we love the topic,
and then we want to do it all the time. Yeah,
we're down with it. Ery tolling them. I see all
them talking about chat he gave it away. Well listen
this on break. It doesn't count. Yeah, yeah, this is
a break doesn't count. The people. Yes, I'm very angry.
It's going to be very so price. I'm so mad
this Like they're making the show with us. You can't
see me, but I'm pointed out the chat. I'm angry,
furious what you're doing there. I was just looking up
the difference between apes and great apes because I got
I just got curious. Is the one that covers all
kinds of apes and monkeys?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: It took me a lot of pig sure. Yeah. Like
what's the difference between primates and simions? I can't remember.
I think simians are all simians are primates, not all
primates or simions. I think simians is yes, is pretty specific. Yep. Okay,
uh yeah, we all fish. We have to do that
inflcial game thing. We come back. Tell me what Okay,
fantastic yea, all right, I mean guess I don't know. Chatted. Okay,
all right, here we go. Chat. Don't don't spoil it.
Be cool, be cool. You need you need to put
up the Yeah, I'll build. We're gonna do a super
build the plane in the air up for you there. Yeah. Break,
I just I'm just like, oh, yeah, I'm sorry, I
just sent us a break on that. Sorry. I'm like, yeah,
that's good enough. Hey, we're going to a break. That's
a pretty good Yeah. Such, we're going to break energy
in his voice, and like that will count. No, No,
it's not your fault, it's mine. I'm shot, Like my
brain is done.
Speaker 2: No, I know our shot. Our hope of doing a
short episode is has Friday or summer. Let's get back
into it.
Speaker 1: We'll do this. Monkey think we're not too long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me get anything to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get the Game of Brother. I can play
more and a few other things.
Speaker 2: But you're still playing that good I play plays every
night for hours.
Speaker 1: That's just a month streams. Then if you were playing
this much Mario Pickcross, I am forcing you to play
Mario Picks I'm almost cross. Well okay, yeah, all those
ship I've talked about, it's the main thing so much
when you finally play. Yeah, if it's like that thing,
did saynything structooters I didn't play. I look at him like.
Speaker 4: The watch life was wasn't big here because that was
a street pass thing. So here, No already had like
a three years or nothing like that.
Speaker 1: So what's kind of this? I was about to say,
I forgot. It's not important. No one remembers anymore. But
don't worry. It's okay.
Speaker 2: I wonder, I do wonder if like we're going to
see overt connections to like maybe Mario Oughtyssey and Stockdown game,
like maybe people mentioned new Donk City don City.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was about to say, yeah, I'm just gonna
say that. It's I was saying screw Shower was fun
and then move on.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, you play that, Mike, are you? He's just
not in the mood for an Assassin's crew. Yeah, I
ever will be again. Okay, all right, yeah, all right,
I am ready, Mike, get back.