Speaker 1: That's no moon, it's a space station.
Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. A few things
Speaker 2: before we get started this evening. For one, we have
Speaker 2: a well, Aaron and I will both be in Mount
Speaker 2: Shasta for a conference coming up in late July, and
Speaker 2: you can get tickets for that event below in the description, Aaron,
Speaker 2: what's the name of the conference?
Speaker 3: I always forget the full name is the Calling and
Speaker 3: Angelic Reunion, but the Calling works and that and the
Speaker 3: dates are July sixteenth through the twentieth.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, and Aaron is going to be a presenter.
Speaker 2: You can't wait to hear your presentation. So that is
Speaker 2: if you're interested in joining us there, you can grab
Speaker 2: a ticket. That link is blowing the description. And immediately
Speaker 2: following the conference, we will be premiering our documentary, our
Speaker 2: Secret Space Program documentary, A Lifetime of Silence Behind the
Speaker 2: Green Door. If you have not seen it, you can
Speaker 2: go to our Patreon and watch it. It's only nine
Speaker 2: ninety nine. You can find that through our website Journey
Speaker 2: totruth dot online. That link is blow as well, but
Speaker 2: if you want to watch it while you're in Mount Shassa,
Speaker 2: it's only ten dollars to attend the movie premiere. It's
Speaker 2: in the upper floor of Soul Connections if you're familiar
Speaker 2: with the area, and it's going to be shown at
Speaker 2: seven pm on the July twenty first. So we're looking
Speaker 2: forward to that. And another event coming up is one
Speaker 2: that I will be speaking at with Kevin, our guest today,
Speaker 2: Kevin in as Tech New Mexico actually at the Tico
Speaker 2: Time Resort is, which is where the Sunfire Fest was
Speaker 2: held a few years ago, which was an amazing event
Speaker 2: that Aaron and I were at, And if you're interested,
Speaker 2: you can grab tickets at the Quantum Disclosure Project dot
Speaker 2: com I believe is the website for that, and so
Speaker 2: looking forward to that, looking forward to that. As Tech
Speaker 2: New Mexico is where there's a famous UFO wreck, the
Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight as Tech New Mexico wreck where they
Speaker 2: found were there's sixteen bodies found and there's actually more
Speaker 2: information for that wreck than there was for the actual
Speaker 2: nineteen forty seven Roswell wreckage, which is interesting, So there's
Speaker 2: a whole history there. I just looked it up the
Speaker 2: other day because I might even be touching on that
Speaker 2: during my talk. Anyway, maybe if you find yourself in
Speaker 2: the area in September and you want to come hang
Speaker 2: out with us in as Tech, New Mexico September twenty
Speaker 2: first to twenty fourth, you can grab tickets at the
Speaker 2: Quantum Disclosure Project dot com. Now, with that out of
Speaker 2: the way, today we are joined by Kevin Ostrella. He
Speaker 2: is actually friends of Sue Walker, who we had on
Speaker 2: the show episode one eighty nine. And if you don't
Speaker 2: know who Sue Walker is, she's a eaty experience, but
Speaker 2: specifically with the Ponty and the Ponte are a race
Speaker 2: of beings that you see on the wall behind Kevin
Speaker 2: here on screen. And Kevin his friends with Suit and
Speaker 2: he is now also a contactee and an experiencer and
Speaker 2: he has been in communication with the Ponty and he
Speaker 2: has some really interesting information to share with us, and
Speaker 2: we're going to get into some fun stuff today. So
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Kevin. We're happy to have you here.
Speaker 1: Oh, very excited to be here, guys, thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely so. I guess I
Speaker 1: do want to go through kind of the bullet points
Speaker 1: of who the Ponty are, you know, where are they from,
Speaker 1: what are they doing here? How long have they been
Speaker 1: here that stuff. But I want to address an elephant
Speaker 1: in the room first, just to get this out of
Speaker 1: the way, because the whole gray narrative right now is,
Speaker 1: you know, because of the Disclosure Day film, a lot
Speaker 1: of people they want to just throw all the grays
Speaker 1: in one box as if they're all evil. They think
Speaker 1: that if you claimed it, the grays are positive that
Speaker 1: you're a gray sympathizer. So maybe you could help clarify
Speaker 1: the difference between the Ponti and the grays, and maybe
Speaker 1: we can start off the conversation there, just to give
Speaker 1: some people a better understanding of what we're going to
Speaker 1: be talking about today. Sure, well, here's a here's a
Speaker 1: good analogy. How many how many different groups are there
Speaker 1: on the planet. Everybody's all they're all human, right, So
Speaker 1: let's say let's say that book. Let's compare that to
Speaker 1: the grays. Humans are all grays. Okay, how many groups
Speaker 1: of humans are there on this planet? Different groups and sex?
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot, there's a lot of different sex,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of different beliefs of the groups
Speaker 1: of who they do, what they are, But they're all human, right,
Speaker 1: So you have to understand that there are several different
Speaker 1: species of Zeta's. It's very the Zeta body is very
Speaker 1: the easy body, it's a very typical body of of that.
Speaker 1: You know that they that that there, that is out there.
Speaker 1: But there's about seven different star nations of Zada's who
Speaker 1: are visiting Earth, at least seven from what we understand
Speaker 1: from the Ponte, And you cannot lump them all in together.
Speaker 1: That would be like lumping everybody in the Earth being,
Speaker 1: you know, of the same and being judged the same.
Speaker 1: So would you want to be judged the same as
Speaker 1: you know, you know a certain group that you don't
Speaker 1: want to be associated with. It's not very fair, is it.
Speaker 1: So that's the same thing now, Doctor Stephen Greer has
Speaker 1: mentioned many things that coincide exactly with what Tilcomb, Commander
Speaker 1: Tilcombe here has said about they're being biologically grown Zetas
Speaker 1: here on the planet that are doing the harm, that
Speaker 1: are doing abductions, and uh Tilcom calls them the aliens.
Speaker 1: He says, they are the aliens, not us. So the
Speaker 1: Ponte are our guardians. They've been here for a long time.
Speaker 1: They are friends. They've been trying to help us. They've
Speaker 1: been behind the scenes they've been. Their history goes back
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five thousand years of their records
Speaker 1: here on this planet. And the reason why they are
Speaker 1: here is to help prepare us for official first contact.
Speaker 1: That is why we are there here. So that is
Speaker 1: that is the biggest thing. The other question is well,
Speaker 1: why now, Why is all this stuff happening now? Why
Speaker 1: is all this stuff happening in the media. Well, the
Speaker 1: reason for that is because, as a ponte you have
Speaker 1: been mourning for many years that we are in the
Speaker 1: middle of an extinction level event. We are going to
Speaker 1: We're having in a geomagnetic excursion where the magnetosphere of
Speaker 1: our planet is weakening as the poles have been moving.
Speaker 1: The North Pole has been moving towards Siberia and it's
Speaker 1: moving further and further, and the South Pole. They all
Speaker 1: seem to be converging at the the the Streight of Gibraltar, Gibraltar.
Speaker 1: And if you really want to know the science behind
Speaker 1: all this, because people are asking, well, what's the proof,
Speaker 1: where's the proof? I suggest that you follow Ben Davidson
Speaker 1: on Twitter space Weather News, who is a scientist. He
Speaker 1: is a space weather and sun scientist and he's been
Speaker 1: monitoring these and the changes that are going on with
Speaker 1: their son. And he's been talking about this instinction level
Speaker 1: event that has the potential of happening. And I've seen, guys,
Speaker 1: I've seen the you call it, the demos that some
Speaker 1: people have done of the planet showing exactly what happens,
Speaker 1: and it's even more terrifying than I even imagined. And
Speaker 1: we'll get into that, okay.
Speaker 2: So so well, let's rewind before we get into that
Speaker 2: a little bit and just give us a better understanding.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the explanation of the grays Verse the Ponty
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's a great that's a great analogy. And
Speaker 2: I've used that same analogy before as well. And it
Speaker 2: goes for all all ET's you know, and everybody and
Speaker 2: throughout the galaxy.
Speaker 3: So even like reptilians, there's nimble ones, there's regressive ones,
Speaker 3: there's all everywhere in between, right.
Speaker 1: Right, it's great, lump them all into one. Oh they're
Speaker 1: all bad. No, it doesn't work that way. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was like saying all humans are bad. Right, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of agreed. I agree the majority are. But you know,
Speaker 1: what's like.
Speaker 3: Lower lower level of consciousness, you could say.
Speaker 2: Lower level of consciousness. Absolutely, yes, right, right, So let's
Speaker 2: rewind a little bit. Okay, the ponte are you say
Speaker 2: they've been here for one hundred and thirty five thousand years,
Speaker 2: but we didn't get into I just kind of want
Speaker 2: to go back to square one for the people who
Speaker 2: don't know who we're dealing with here, because there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people new to our channel that may have
Speaker 2: never heard of a Ponty. So maybe you can kind
Speaker 2: of explain the story of their emergence and you know,
Speaker 2: how they started communicating with Sue and even yourself where
Speaker 2: they're located. Basically, just give us the bullet points of
Speaker 2: how that progressed.
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, So Sue Walker is the first person who
Speaker 1: had contact with the Ponti well, actually technically Ottered was.
Speaker 1: And then when Sue started dating Order and she moved,
Speaker 1: she went and started visiting him in Albuquerque, that's when
Speaker 1: things began. And so it all began think in twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen where the two of them were watching I think
Speaker 1: it was The Voice, one of those you know, those
Speaker 1: talent shows and stuff like that, and there's a singer
Speaker 1: who was doing really well, and Sue said, I think
Speaker 1: you know, he was really good, and I think he
Speaker 1: deserves to win. And then this disembodied voice that came
Speaker 1: from the Sandia Mountains Albuquerque, New Mexico spoke up and said, yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. And then Sue's like, okay, who's that?
Speaker 1: And so eventually more conversation started to have with this
Speaker 1: this person, this telepathic communication that was going on, and
Speaker 1: it was getting a little bit more information here and there,
Speaker 1: and she was afraid to ask Otter about it because
Speaker 1: she didn't want to look like she was crazy. And
Speaker 1: then one day she said to him, like, have you
Speaker 1: heard a strange voice that comes from the mountain? And
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, them, yeah, they talk all the time.
Speaker 1: I just got to tune them out. So she knew
Speaker 1: that was real. And so one day she finally, you know,
Speaker 1: she got tired of calling it the voice from the mountain,
Speaker 1: and so she decided to call the voice Sanda because
Speaker 1: of you know, it's came from Sandia Mountains two miles below. Now,
Speaker 1: let's let's just clarify this has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the San diam military installation based there has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with this. This happens to deal with two miles
Speaker 1: under the Sandia Mountains, is an ancient human civilization that
Speaker 1: was last occupied sixty thousand years ago, and it was
Speaker 1: abandoned by when a cataclysmic event happened where an ancient
Speaker 1: lake broke open and a huge mud flood happened and
Speaker 1: destroyed all of the farmland and the underground city had
Speaker 1: to be abandoned. And for I believe there's probably about
Speaker 1: a million people who were able to live in this thing. Also,
Speaker 1: it was a race of giants. Because I've been to
Speaker 1: the Sandy Mountains, I can remember little bits when they
Speaker 1: picked me up and taken me, and I remember there's
Speaker 1: a lot of large steps that you have to crawl
Speaker 1: over top of. That's the only one thing I remember
Speaker 1: that was odd about the full thing. Anyway, So the ponte,
Speaker 1: they refurbished about ten to fifteen percent of that original
Speaker 1: base for their own their own usage. So that's where
Speaker 1: they reside. And so then eventually, you know, Sue was
Speaker 1: entered used to tilcom Commander Tilcombe when she said, you know,
Speaker 1: I called you San Dia and he said watermelon head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that'll do, because watermelon means Sandia. And then eventually she
Speaker 1: learned more and more from him, and he introduced the
Speaker 1: crew at that point he introduced to me, introduced Drudy,
Speaker 1: introduced Radar, and that's that's Tenny right there. That's Drudy
Speaker 1: right there, that's Judy as well. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: where things began. I met the Ponte in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: when I was introduced to them on Twitter and I
Speaker 1: started following them every day and then and they were
Speaker 1: they were keen to they were interested in me. And
Speaker 1: then private DM conversations were going on with the Ponte
Speaker 1: and myself with Tanny, and eventually this friendship started to begin.
Speaker 1: And then they introduced me to Sue Walker and I
Speaker 1: ended up having a conversation with her for the first time,
Speaker 1: and we just hit it off immediately and really group
Speaker 1: close together. And you know, it's been an incredible venture,
Speaker 1: you know, since then, since two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 2: Right, And we'll definitely dive into that. But one more question.
Speaker 2: So they're two miles underground in this refurbished city for
Speaker 2: lack of a better term, beneath the Sandia Mountains, and
Speaker 2: what specifically are they doing there? I know Sioux refers
Speaker 2: to it as an information station, and is that the
Speaker 2: only place they are on earth? Are they in other locations.
Speaker 2: Can you answer that?
Speaker 1: There are four major extraterrestrial information stations on the planet.
Speaker 1: There's one in Europe, there's one in the I think
Speaker 1: it's secret with it's the Tasman See. It's somewhere in
Speaker 1: like the Australia New Zealand area. It's an underwater base.
Speaker 1: And I can't remember where the other one is. But
Speaker 1: they all kind of, you know, they all kind of
Speaker 1: work independently. You know. The Ponte are not to the
Speaker 1: other information stations. They stay within their own vicinity of
Speaker 1: their designated area. But the Ponty, you know, they do
Speaker 1: come up here to Canada, so that's their territory, and
Speaker 1: they come up here. They come up here all the time.
Speaker 1: They visit like they visit me every every day, every
Speaker 1: every Saturday and Sunday, Friday and Sunday. It's Friday and
Speaker 1: Saturday nights. They are here pumping the back of my
Speaker 1: coach and just hanging out. You know. It's really funny.
Speaker 1: They love you know, I'll play my PS four and
Speaker 1: playing games and they'll be behind me just watching me
Speaker 1: play games. And they've been doing that since two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen. It's going on. They just like they like
Speaker 1: our culture. They want to learn about us what we
Speaker 1: like to do in our spare time, and their their
Speaker 1: their cultural explores as well as Gardner Intel it.
Speaker 2: So they're just here monitoring, observing.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's part of it. I mean, that's just
Speaker 1: part of part of your their you know, what they
Speaker 1: do to make The major mission, of course, is official
Speaker 1: first contact. That is the main mission, but they have
Speaker 1: many trainees. There's hundreds of trainees now at this point.
Speaker 1: And the Ponti are nocturnal, so they go out at
Speaker 1: night time and they visit people or they got different
Speaker 1: missions that they do and whatever it is that they do,
Speaker 1: but they do go and visit people all over the world,
Speaker 1: and they visit their Twitter followers as well. And there's
Speaker 1: lots of evidence on the website that shows that the
Speaker 1: followers of Sanda at Sandia Wisdom on Twitter of the
Speaker 1: evidence they have of the visitations that the Ponti have
Speaker 1: been to their place, and I have lots of it
Speaker 1: too here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm just thinking of questions for the average
Speaker 2: viewer right now. Whenever you say there they visit you,
Speaker 2: and they're all over they come out of night. Are
Speaker 2: they visible to the naked eye. Are they operating in
Speaker 2: a higher dimension? What does that look like.
Speaker 1: That's a good question, because I don't. I don't see them.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see them physically. They're always invisible
Speaker 1: for the most part. Sue has seen them physically, and
Speaker 1: also Jeff Demmers, who is another you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he's another ambassador for the Ponte, and he has seen
Speaker 1: til Com physically. He's seen other Star Nations physically. I
Speaker 1: still have not the only time I ever saw Ponte
Speaker 1: physically was dap my apartment in twenty seventeen, and it
Speaker 1: was pet who showed up in my apartment and I
Speaker 1: just happened to be that I accidentally woke up and
Speaker 1: to see him, and but he eventually kind of put
Speaker 1: me back to sleep after that. But I have seen them.
Speaker 1: That was the one time physically I have. I have
Speaker 1: met them in the astral I've also had them show up,
Speaker 1: you know, surrounding my bed where I was like and
Speaker 1: a half awake a sleep state, and there was five
Speaker 1: of them surrounding me, and I could feel their arms
Speaker 1: resting on their hands resting on my arms and my
Speaker 1: leg legs, and they were kind of brushing my arms
Speaker 1: like this, and I could hear them walking around in
Speaker 1: my bedroom, like their feet moving, they move really fast.
Speaker 1: And then they I could hear them, I have like
Speaker 1: a DIDGERI do long tube, you know, my Australian thing.
Speaker 1: It's ji play is in the corner. I could hear
Speaker 1: them picking it up because it was branding against the wall.
Speaker 1: So I could hear all the stuff that was going
Speaker 1: on while they were visiting me. But the thing that
Speaker 1: I remember the most about that visit was the feeling
Speaker 1: the emotion that they were sharing with me, because they
Speaker 1: were sharing their emotions with me, and it was a
Speaker 1: feeling of your family. That's what I felt like, It's
Speaker 1: this really warm feeling of your family with to us.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that their emotions are extremely complex,
Speaker 1: very complex emotions, and then when they share their emotions
Speaker 1: with you, it's just overwhelming. Really, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the artwork behind you, it doesn't depict them
Speaker 2: even as the stereotypical gray that we understand. It's more human,
Speaker 2: like they're happier and I like, yeah.
Speaker 3: The eyes are more more human life definitely.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, as they each have an individual character, as
Speaker 2: the grays look like drones, they all look like a copy,
Speaker 2: you know, clone essentially a drone whatever they want to
Speaker 2: call them.
Speaker 1: Well, it's those black nicctinating lenses that thread of throws
Speaker 1: people off. You have to understand that those are just
Speaker 1: like like they're like in built in sung glasses, just
Speaker 1: like on a dog or a cat. We have them
Speaker 1: as well, but also like you know, alligators. So it's
Speaker 1: just that it's just it's just an eye cover that
Speaker 1: helps them seed better at night. But behind their behind
Speaker 1: those nicctating lenses, they have beautiful big blue like big
Speaker 1: blue eyes or brown eyes or multicolored eyes, just like us.
Speaker 1: They are. They're very very much human. They're just not
Speaker 1: earth human. But they are so similar to us, you know,
Speaker 1: in body type. They all have individual you know, they
Speaker 1: all look individual. You know, they have variations in the
Speaker 1: way they look. They just don't have hair, which they're
Speaker 1: very envious of us for that.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So, whether what do you think about the theory
Speaker 2: that grays are us from the future and what would
Speaker 2: the PONTI say to that.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't buy that at all. I don't
Speaker 1: mean that they've the ponte. The ponte they had. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're waiting for our official first contact. Right, the Pontea
Speaker 1: had their official first contact at fourteen point six millionion
Speaker 1: years ago. They have been traveling the galaxies for fourteen
Speaker 1: point six million years. That's how far advanced they go.
Speaker 1: So they're not from the future. They're just more advanced,
Speaker 1: you know, we are. We are very infantile in regards
Speaker 1: to our advanced We think we're so so great and wondering,
Speaker 1: how can another extra prestrial make it Earth? That doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense. How can they travel light years? It
Speaker 1: would take them forever. No, it's because they're working different
Speaker 1: physics than we are. Well, how come we haven't even
Speaker 1: had any contact with them? Why why don't we pick
Speaker 1: up any radio signals? Well, that's because they communicate telepathectly.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you're kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: making smoke signals and you're expecting, you know, radio radio.
Speaker 2: Frequencies to come get you, you know, right, Well, explain
Speaker 2: to explain to me that social media accounts, because this
Speaker 2: is something I know somebody new to this they'll have
Speaker 2: questions about. And to me, it's not a stretch of
Speaker 2: the imagination at all. If they are that advanced, why
Speaker 2: couldn't they have a computer or device similar to hard
Speaker 2: phones or computer and have an account on social media.
Speaker 2: And I've heard from a number of experiencers actually that
Speaker 2: not just the Ponty, but other groups are hiding on
Speaker 2: social media as well.
Speaker 1: Well. I know for the Ponte, just to speak for
Speaker 1: the Ponte, that they don't have a computer in front
Speaker 1: of them, and they're not the ones who have the
Speaker 1: Twitter out doing the actual tweeting. Okay, Stu Walker who
Speaker 1: opened up the account on their behalf, and she does
Speaker 1: all the tweeting for them, so she's the telepathic. But
Speaker 1: that does not say that it's not possible that there
Speaker 1: are extraterrestrials who are communicating physically on computers on social
Speaker 1: media events. Because the person who introduced me to the Ponte,
Speaker 1: who you'll probably like, Ill, we call him Wookie, and
Speaker 1: you see him on some of the videos that he
Speaker 1: and I make close some counters of the Ponte kind.
Speaker 1: His first contact with extraterrestrials were what he called the
Speaker 1: little Frogs, who were two extraterrestrials who lived with a
Speaker 1: man somewhere. I don't know where the house was, but
Speaker 1: they're the ones who lived in this guy's place and
Speaker 1: they communicated on the computer, and they're the ones who
Speaker 1: are actually physically talking to him. And it's quite interesting actually,
Speaker 1: because I remember one of the things that was crazy
Speaker 1: about the whole thing was that they were talking about
Speaker 1: me to him before he before he even met me,
Speaker 1: and just describing me and what I do and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and like and and and my buddy didn't
Speaker 1: even understand who they were talking about. It wasn't untill
Speaker 1: after he met me when he realized, oh, the little
Speaker 1: frogs and what we're talking about you. And it's like
Speaker 1: for them, past president, future don't really exist. They're all
Speaker 1: the same to them. So the time the timeline was
Speaker 1: kind of mixed up there. They didn't realize that he
Speaker 1: hadn't really met him, or it didn't really make any difference.
Speaker 1: They were just talking about me. So, but yes, actra trrestrials,
Speaker 1: you know, some of them actually are physically using computers
Speaker 1: to have the ability to do that, Right, that's the
Speaker 1: answer your question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Chyler, you had that experience with the text
Speaker 3: messages that was that was in Earth being what's ill.
Speaker 3: They were able to highly doubt they're on a phone
Speaker 3: texting you when they did that, right, right, They just
Speaker 3: manipulated your phone to for the text to show up.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know. So that ability. A lot of
Speaker 3: thet's probably have the same ability.
Speaker 1: But there's also a lot of ets who are living
Speaker 1: here who look just like us, who are from other
Speaker 1: planets and are amongst us, living doing normal lives, and
Speaker 1: they will reveal themselves in time. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: tall whites who live in the Nevada area in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: and you have you know, the Umo, who are a
Speaker 1: human race. They have slightly more orange skin, but they're
Speaker 1: very you know, scientific mathematics type of civilization from the
Speaker 1: Virtal constellation, and they they make contact with people in
Speaker 1: Spain and that's that in the seventies and a lot
Speaker 1: of their technical stuff has been written into books. So,
Speaker 1: but they're as human as we are. So you you
Speaker 1: don't know who who, who's an eat or who's not? Right,
Speaker 1: they're amongst us, they live amongst us, but they will
Speaker 1: go themselves when the time is righted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, yeah. Nordic's, you know, even Venusians.
Speaker 2: If you look at the way they're described, look at
Speaker 2: valiant thor I mean there, you wouldn't know the difference,
Speaker 2: right unless you knew what to look for.
Speaker 3: Robert Robert Dean. He said that many times he's like,
Speaker 3: they're amongst us, and they look exactly like us. You
Speaker 3: would never know the difference. But and then it's like
Speaker 3: or here, he's like, they're in the government, they're in corporations,
Speaker 3: they're in military. You know, they're they're spread all over
Speaker 3: the place, and you would never know unless they told
Speaker 3: you or they proved it somehow.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, exactly. I would. I think the majority
Speaker 2: of people might be surprised if they were to somehow
Speaker 2: flip a switch and we could see which ones were
Speaker 2: Easy'd be like, oh shit, I've been looking at him
Speaker 2: every day, you know, right, yeah, glasses, they live glasses.
Speaker 2: I just want you to I want to bring up
Speaker 2: one recent ex post from Sanda Wisdom. I guess this
Speaker 2: would be from Sue. She said, our deceased Zunny elder
Speaker 2: friend Clifford Mahoudi, told us about a decade ago that
Speaker 2: he was very aware of a sliding door entrance on
Speaker 2: the west side of the Sandia Mountain, a couple of
Speaker 2: canyons north of the Sandia tram which I'll ask you about,
Speaker 2: just as the Ponti had informed us years before that
Speaker 2: this is the first time I've heard his description verified
Speaker 2: by two separate eyewitnesses who, as boy Scouts from September tenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight, watched this very door opened I opened.
Speaker 2: I listened to both witnesses, and what they tell us
Speaker 2: matches what Clifford Mahoudi said in twenty sixteen and what
Speaker 2: the Ponti have told us all along. Worth a listen,
Speaker 2: and then she links the video. So can you maybe
Speaker 2: elaborate on this door that she's talking about and this
Speaker 2: Sandia tram and anything that you might know about this?
Speaker 1: I wish I could, but I really don't have much
Speaker 1: information about it. I saw that tweaked and I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten around to watching the video of cliff from Mahoodie,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about it. But you know Clifford Mahoodie,
Speaker 1: you know, he is a Zuni tribe, you know, Zuni
Speaker 1: Elder tribe leader, and he's been on Guy at TV.
Speaker 1: He's been on Ancient Aliens, and he speaks and talks
Speaker 1: about you know, their their people's interactions with the Star
Speaker 1: Nations for you know, for hundreds of thousands of years,
Speaker 1: and their people are very well aware of the Ponte
Speaker 1: and have a lot of history that goes back there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Clifford has so much information that the shares,
Speaker 1: which is it's mind blowing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 3: For We had him on the show about six years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and we were, you know, somewhat friends with
Speaker 3: them back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Clifford was great. And I recently just met
Speaker 2: his son actually, who's carrying the torch for him now,
Speaker 2: and I watched him speak here in Sedona and he
Speaker 2: was We actually hit it off when we were sharing
Speaker 2: stories about his dad and stuff.
Speaker 1: Here's pretty cool. He's a great guy. In fact, actually
Speaker 1: he gave he gifted me a soilpstone statue of a
Speaker 1: sasquatch that he made down the hallway here and sits
Speaker 1: in my bath there. He looks down the hallway to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on on this, keep my eye my
Speaker 1: place protected. I really gift that he gave me. That.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, right And okay, so what about this Sandia tram?
Speaker 2: Is that something like an underground tunnel network thing? Is
Speaker 2: that what they're referring to or do you know what.
Speaker 1: I know that they've talked about it is that there
Speaker 1: are ancient tunnel systems that run throughout the United States
Speaker 1: that are very very old. These are not the ones.
Speaker 1: They're not talking about the military ones, but these are
Speaker 1: ones that existed from the last age of Man that
Speaker 1: the Ponti recently explained of and it was part of
Speaker 1: a of a transport system from the last age of man.
Speaker 1: So you have to understand there's been several cataclysms that
Speaker 1: have taken we've gone extinct, and this this, this part
Speaker 1: still actually still exists the system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's ancient, very ancient, and I think anybody
Speaker 2: at this point is at least somewhat aware of the
Speaker 2: underground tunnel network, and a lot of it's been done
Speaker 2: by our military, but from US interviewing people, you know,
Speaker 2: it seems very apparent that most of these tunnels were
Speaker 2: already there and they've just been repurposed and they're being
Speaker 2: you know, who knows who they're who's utilizing them, probably
Speaker 2: ets and humans. And which makes bring me to my
Speaker 2: next question. So you said earlier the Ponti or in
Speaker 2: no way affiliated with the military or government. Is that
Speaker 2: so they've had no interaction as far as you know,
Speaker 2: or do they work with them in some capacity at all?
Speaker 1: With the military. They don't have they don't work with
Speaker 1: the military. The only thing that they do is that
Speaker 1: they monitor what goes on planetary wise with those who
Speaker 1: have the access to the buttons, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's what they keep an eye for. They are
Speaker 1: trying to they've been trying to make connections with higher
Speaker 1: people up. I don't know exactly and have what capacities
Speaker 1: or who those people are, but they are trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, make make content with with them.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I know that Radar got Sue to email the Dalai
Speaker 1: Lama and the Dalai Lama actually responded. But the thing
Speaker 1: was that stud didn't realize was that that was actually
Speaker 1: Dalai Lama's private email and somehow Radar got ahold of it.
Speaker 2: So wow, yeah, well that tells you something right there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's incredible. What kind of information is at the information station?
Speaker 2: So is there anything like, I know, we kind of
Speaker 2: just jumped into all these questions and stuff, but did
Speaker 2: you have you know, did you feel like you wanted
Speaker 2: to share more of your experiences with the Ponte and
Speaker 2: how that unfolded for you, or was there anything in
Speaker 2: particular you wanted to get into. I know, you said
Speaker 2: the first contact is something that you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 2: I'm very interested to hear what the Ponte's version of
Speaker 2: that looks like and what they see how they see
Speaker 2: that occurring.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, I'll be talking mostly about my relationship
Speaker 1: with the Ponte. You know, it's it's been a developing
Speaker 1: relationship for the last you know, since two and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I had my first visitation from the Ponte in twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen where they showed up at my apartment and I
Speaker 1: was open to the feeling of liquid draining out of
Speaker 1: my left ear. That woke me up. And then the
Speaker 1: next morning a statue had been moved, and Sue told
Speaker 1: me that you'd know if the Ponte were there or
Speaker 1: something was moved. And then eventually talking to my buddy
Speaker 1: you know, Lookie, he also talked about a similar thing
Speaker 1: with his gear as well. That was that was that
Speaker 1: was done, and we found out that the Ponti had
Speaker 1: done a procedure where they kind of like dipped us
Speaker 1: and liquid was put into our into our bodies or heads.
Speaker 1: And what happened was that after a week's time, my
Speaker 1: body was so exfoliating metals and ammonia and all these
Speaker 1: toxic stuff, and I'm sure it was also fluoride, because
Speaker 1: by after a week's time I had completely cleared and
Speaker 1: I was able to acces as parts of my brain
Speaker 1: that I never was able to access before. And and
Speaker 1: then they repeated the procedure a month later. I had
Speaker 1: another stain on my pillow as well. It was like
Speaker 1: a reddish brows stain. And then my my, I could
Speaker 1: really hear things much clearer, and the Ponti said that
Speaker 1: my my, my telepathic projection was much much clearer now,
Speaker 1: So that was interesting. But you know the Ponti, Uh,
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot about their culture over the years. Uh.
Speaker 1: You can go to the archives of their Twitter at
Speaker 1: official first contact dot com. So there is a Twitter
Speaker 1: archives there which you can do searches by keywords that
Speaker 1: will pull up conversations or things that the Pontea have
Speaker 1: talked about in the past to be able to reference.
Speaker 1: But what I'm going to be doing tonight is I
Speaker 1: have spent the last three years collecting, well actually I
Speaker 1: spent the last you know, ten years collecting, taking snapshots
Speaker 1: of their tweets, of the ones that are important, of
Speaker 1: things that they have said. And then they turned them
Speaker 1: into memes using Sue Walker's artwork and then posting it,
Speaker 1: and then we made those into memes, but then I
Speaker 1: made them into YouTube shorts where I'm narrating it and
Speaker 1: you know, expressing what it is that they're saying. So
Speaker 1: we're going to be getting into a bunch of those,
Speaker 1: so you get a really good sense of a little
Speaker 1: bit of the culture of the Ponta, but also about
Speaker 1: the warnings about this extinction level event which they are
Speaker 1: talking about. So but you know, they they they are
Speaker 1: very much like us in every single way. They have
Speaker 1: their likes, they have their dislikes, they have their specialties.
Speaker 1: You know Thera up here, her specialty is in the
Speaker 1: tonal language of the cetaceans and the whales. That's her expertise. Judy,
Speaker 1: she is an expert in public relations, so she knows
Speaker 1: every single star nation that comes to visit the Sandia
Speaker 1: Mountain and those are families and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: To me. She's the one who wrote the telepathy Primmer.
Speaker 1: Then you have radar By Buddy, who is uh he's
Speaker 1: an excellent cartographer, pilot, long distance telepath and he was
Speaker 1: here to basically watch every single TV show and movie
Speaker 1: that has to do with extraterrestrials. They get a sense
Speaker 1: of what we think about you know that about them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I have a few questions before you
Speaker 2: move forward, because this is fascinating. For one, you mention
Speaker 2: they track all the star nations to come and visit
Speaker 2: the Sandia Mountains. So is it like does it double
Speaker 2: as a spaceport. How often are visitors coming?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's visitors all the time. So they have lots
Speaker 1: of different star nations that come visit that that that
Speaker 1: information station. You know, I think even the EA have visited,
Speaker 1: because at one point Jurdy interrupted Sue to make a
Speaker 1: public announcement that the EA had you know, arrived in
Speaker 1: our in our Solar system, which is a huge major
Speaker 1: deal because they were banned from Earth a long time
Speaker 1: ago because they had a battle with another nation over
Speaker 1: over parts of the world where some continents were destroyed
Speaker 1: and lots of people were killed. So uh, and that
Speaker 1: that's been documented in in our history of these of
Speaker 1: these space battles that took place, and it was the
Speaker 1: EA and they were kicked out, and then the planet,
Speaker 1: the planet, the planet then went under uh protected status
Speaker 1: after that after that battle.
Speaker 2: So wow, yeah, I said, man, you're bringing so many
Speaker 2: questions to mind that I guess I have two questions
Speaker 2: before we move forward. One like, what else have they
Speaker 2: told you about Earth's history, even the history of humanity?
Speaker 2: Is there anything significant like that we probably don't know?
Speaker 2: Or is a lesser known fact about our civilization?
Speaker 1: Oh? Boy, honestly, the best, the best I can suggest
Speaker 1: a book for people to read. There's two books actually,
Speaker 1: because one of them actually references the other. There's Judy Carrolls.
Speaker 1: She's from Australia and she wrote a book because she's
Speaker 1: she's half she's a she's a dual soul hybrid, so
Speaker 1: she's half she's half gray like Zeta and half human
Speaker 1: in her in her soul. And then eventually her Zeta
Speaker 1: family came back to her and retaught her and gave
Speaker 1: dump with the lots of information into her. And then
Speaker 1: she wrote a book called Extraterrestrial Presence on Earth Lessons
Speaker 1: in History, which is about the history of humanity from
Speaker 1: the point of view of you know, the ziadas, which
Speaker 1: tie and it gets into a lot of things with
Speaker 1: religion as well, gets into the controllers, you know, the
Speaker 1: reptarrany controllers on this planet. But the other book that
Speaker 1: I reference is sunbowst Sasquatch Message to Humanity Conversations with Camu,
Speaker 1: because because that book goes back even further. But if
Speaker 1: you read both books, they're telling the same story. And
Speaker 1: Judy Carroll quote Sasquatch Message to Humanity all throughout her
Speaker 1: book because both were talking the Sasquatch and the Zadas
Speaker 1: are corroborating on the same documented information. The only difference
Speaker 1: with Sasquatch Message Humanity is that he goes back all
Speaker 1: the way to Pangaea when the Earth is still one one,
Speaker 1: you know, content in that and then talking about the
Speaker 1: ants people and the reptilians and and all that and
Speaker 1: and you know, the the moon and the civilizations on
Speaker 1: the Moon and all that kind of stuff, and it
Speaker 1: gets really in depth with our history if you really
Speaker 1: want to get into that. They recommend both those books highly.
Speaker 2: Aaron, we I.
Speaker 3: Have all three Sasquatch Message Humanity books, and they're all amazing.
Speaker 3: I totally agree. Fantastic, Yeah, phenomenal. So I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: to get that Judy Carroll book.
Speaker 1: It's great. I'm rereading it again right now.
Speaker 2: Nice I'm looking up. We interviewed some boat did, did
Speaker 2: we not? Aaron?
Speaker 3: We did a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like three years.
Speaker 2: Ago or something. I'm looking right now to see what
Speaker 2: episode number that was, because it was an incredible episode
Speaker 2: and that Yeah, like you said, that book is is
Speaker 2: profound and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to go back and reread it. I
Speaker 1: do reread it because it's there's so much in there.
Speaker 2: Episode episode three Brothers the Sasquatch Message to Humanity if
Speaker 2: anyone is interested in watching that May fourth, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: so a few years ago. And then I guess the
Speaker 2: next question I had. You mentioned one of them was
Speaker 2: a pilot, So are they some of the craft that
Speaker 2: we see, you know, did they pilot the stereotypical UFO?
Speaker 2: Is it a cigar shaped craft?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What do you know about that?
Speaker 1: The Ponti's main craft are skipper ships, so they're like
Speaker 1: they could fit up like three people, and that's what
Speaker 1: they use mostly to travel in. They do also have
Speaker 1: the long cylinder or cigar shaped like ones too, but
Speaker 1: those are more for scientifical scientific excursions like checking you know,
Speaker 1: like checking water levels of or checking water samples in
Speaker 1: northern Canada, or also relocating cetaceans and whales from the
Speaker 1: ocean who have been contaminated by Fukushima and radiation, or
Speaker 1: removing them and moving them off planet for the disasters
Speaker 1: that are coming. You know, they're going to have them.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things going on with the
Speaker 1: ships they have.
Speaker 2: That's that's incredible. That's I love that, you know, So
Speaker 2: they're they're here. I guess you could say they're assisting
Speaker 2: us in a number of ways as well, and not
Speaker 2: even just us, just the wildlife as well. Who are extraterrestrials,
Speaker 2: the whales and dolphins. That's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're They're so important that there's like, as
Speaker 1: I said, I said to somebody today, we only know
Speaker 1: about twenty five percent of the extraterrestrials visiting Earth because
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the planet is covered in water
Speaker 1: and that's where the rest of the ets go, and
Speaker 1: they are aquatic. They are aquatic, you know, extraterrestrials. They
Speaker 1: are more interested in the whales than that, you know,
Speaker 1: the humans, because the whales are more advanced than we are.
Speaker 2: And any of your time with the PONTI, has the
Speaker 2: comm conversation of the Federation ever come up are they
Speaker 2: involved at the federation. Are they aware of Galactic Federation?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they work for that. They are part of
Speaker 1: the federation. Okay, so yeah, and but the thing is, like,
Speaker 1: the Federation is the one who's controlling official first contact.
Speaker 1: The ponte are you know, they're frustrated with the Federation
Speaker 1: sometimes because they want things to happen faster. So but
Speaker 1: they have to go at the speed of that because
Speaker 1: the Ponti are not in control of that. They go
Speaker 1: by what the Federation dictates.
Speaker 2: So what can you tell us about this official first
Speaker 2: contact and what does it look like? And when is
Speaker 2: this supposed to happen? Is that this type of information
Speaker 2: that you understand from them or is the conversation different?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's changed over the years. When I first
Speaker 1: met Sue, you know, in twenty sixteen, the deadline for
Speaker 1: official first contact was supposed to be the the of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. That was actually the date because that
Speaker 1: was the end of the fifty year treaty that was
Speaker 1: signed by certain human you know, by certain governments or
Speaker 1: officials and certain Star nations.
Speaker 2: I remember this. I remember Sue talking about this. Now, okay, continue, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was like it was a fifty year
Speaker 1: agreement and twenty twenty one was the date for the
Speaker 1: for that for that ending of that and then if
Speaker 1: the OFC was supposed to happen after that. So I
Speaker 1: was waiting five years for official first contact to happen,
Speaker 1: so is sue. We really thought that it was going
Speaker 1: to happen. And then on the summer the winter solstice,
Speaker 1: Tilcom made an announcement that really shocked us, saying that
Speaker 1: the Federation has decided to you know, they've been monitoring
Speaker 1: what's going on with the activity with the Sun and
Speaker 1: the Earth monitoring Earth Cree was readiness for official first
Speaker 1: contact because if you remember, that was height a pandemic
Speaker 1: at that point, so there's a lot of manipulation that
Speaker 1: was going on already. And they were also still monitoring
Speaker 1: the threat of a false flag alien invasion that's doctors
Speaker 1: screaming Stephen Greer has been warning about forever. So because
Speaker 1: of those things, they decided that they're going to be
Speaker 1: doing official first contact slowly with more the increase of
Speaker 1: UFO sightings, and that's why for the last five years
Speaker 1: you've seen nothing but massive you know, sightings and UFOs
Speaker 1: that are all over the news now and people filming
Speaker 1: all these UFOs flying over the place. That's because they're
Speaker 1: trying to get people to wake up and look out.
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the that's the direction that they've
Speaker 1: gone into for a softer disclosure.
Speaker 2: And what does that timeline look like now? Did they
Speaker 2: give it a new deadline or.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I honestly think that something big is going
Speaker 1: to be happening between this year and twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: The reason being because of all this release of information
Speaker 1: that Trump has put out, the release of this movie
Speaker 1: the name you know, Disclosure movie by Spielberg. It's all
Speaker 1: in the news. Things are slowly leaking that the dam
Speaker 1: is breaking. But I think it's building up to something
Speaker 1: even bigger. And I also believe that that's a reason
Speaker 1: why that something bigger is happening is because the PONTI
Speaker 1: never loved you remember anytime they picked me up, But
Speaker 1: they picked me up four times over Christmas. Because I
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and keep in mind, like
Speaker 1: it's winter here. You know, we got snowfall. It's like
Speaker 1: minus you have the fifteen degrees celsius. And four times
Speaker 1: I woke up with mosquito bite that's the only thing
Speaker 1: I know that I'm allowed to remember of knowing that
Speaker 1: I'd been taken somewhere and something when something happened. But
Speaker 1: the thing that I remember that they allowed you remember
Speaker 1: was that they wanted to be going forward to do
Speaker 1: as many interviews as possible, like I'm doing now, to
Speaker 1: introduce the Ponte to the world, because twenty twenty six
Speaker 1: was a very important year for disclosure. That's all they
Speaker 1: told me. And in four months later, now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, with all this information that Trump is releasing,
Speaker 1: I finally get it of what's really going on. So
Speaker 1: I really believe something big is going to happen this
Speaker 1: year and we will be inevitable twenty twenty seven. I
Speaker 1: also follow darryl Anko, you know, Bishar, and he said
Speaker 1: the same thing, and I believe.
Speaker 2: I believe, yes, And I mean, it's apparent there were
Speaker 2: shifting into this new era where ket's are here among us.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of you know, this old paradigm
Speaker 2: being dissolved. I think before finally the collective like that
Speaker 2: one hundredth monkey effect, to where it's just commonly accepted.
Speaker 2: But you said you wanted to share some memes or
Speaker 2: whatever pertaining to you know, some information. Yeah, is that
Speaker 2: where you want to go next with this? I'd love
Speaker 2: to do that. Yeah, because this you'll find this very interesting.
Speaker 2: These are the memes that we've created from the ponte
Speaker 2: of what they've actually said, you know, and we've i'd created. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you gotta get a little bit of a education
Speaker 2: regarding them. So it says, if your son undergoes a
Speaker 2: micro nova and it's poles reverse, the Federation does not
Speaker 2: have the technology to stop it. Qwa Earth humans can
Speaker 2: go underground with provisions as far away from Earth's coastlines
Speaker 2: as possible to avoid the giant tsunamis that will occur.
Speaker 1: That's tilcom.
Speaker 2: Can you move a little closer maybe in front of
Speaker 2: your phone or in closer to that microphone, not not
Speaker 2: that camera that you yourself for the audio?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how's that?
Speaker 2: Yeah it should be Okay, it was just a little
Speaker 2: muffled wherever you were before.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'll stand here. Okay, we do blush.
Speaker 1: We also get goosebumps, have funny bones, are ticklish, burp, pickup, fart, cry, tears, snore,
Speaker 1: and giggle. The pontee with telepathy observe thoughts that come
Speaker 1: like a bolt out of the blue, words phrases you
Speaker 1: don't normally use. You're ready to get the answer when
Speaker 1: you finally asked the question. Now, this was very This
Speaker 1: is a key instrumental to me with the with a
Speaker 1: huge jump I did with my telepathy when I started
Speaker 1: to recognize by quieting my mind like a pond of
Speaker 1: you know, making it look like glass, have no thoughts,
Speaker 1: and then thoughts that are coming into my mind the
Speaker 1: bolt of the blue. I started. I'm starting to hear
Speaker 1: my friends and family talking. I get their thoughts before
Speaker 1: they speak to me. This is happening more and more
Speaker 1: because I learned about this observing thoughts that come like
Speaker 1: a bolt out of the blue. So this is critical
Speaker 1: to my Was this critical to learning telepathy?
Speaker 2: And before you go on to the next one, I
Speaker 2: just want to the first one you talked about. Is
Speaker 2: this event potentially for in the sun that they won't
Speaker 2: be able to stop? And I guess is this the
Speaker 2: cataclysm that you've been kind of hinting at throughout the episode?
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's one.
Speaker 2: And why do they think that this is a potential
Speaker 2: threat and that there's nothing that can be done.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's part of the Earth cycle. It happens
Speaker 1: every twelve thousand years. Ben Davidson has i explained Space
Speaker 1: Weather News really explains the scientists science behind it. He's
Speaker 1: made documentaries on it, videos explaining how this works and
Speaker 1: how it's part of a cyclical event. The Ponte said
Speaker 1: that it's healthy for our planet and it's nothing that
Speaker 1: we can do. It's triggered by because we are moving
Speaker 1: through the Milky Way and we're going into an area
Speaker 1: which they call the zone, which is a highly magnetized
Speaker 1: ribboned area that is causing excitement with the planets in
Speaker 1: our star. And that's nothing that can be done about it.
Speaker 1: So we just have to live through it. And these
Speaker 1: are the potentials of the cataclysms that can occur and
Speaker 1: have occurred in the past.
Speaker 2: So is this something that we should be worried about
Speaker 2: where we will we potentially survive it? Or you have
Speaker 2: a question, Well.
Speaker 1: Some of these some of these tweets will well, some
Speaker 1: of these memes will explain some of that. Okay, okay. Rhythm, dance, music, art,
Speaker 1: and food are considered the first areas of shared overlap
Speaker 1: and understanding between the visiting cultures. We study them in
Speaker 1: preparation for Earth's official first contact, so we can celebrate
Speaker 1: together joyfully. To me, there is no climate emergency. The
Speaker 1: extremes of climate change you are experiencing now due to
Speaker 1: the turbulent area of the galaxy that your solar system
Speaker 1: is passing through is normal every twenty five thousand years.
Speaker 1: There is more than just this solar system's geomagnetic changes
Speaker 1: going on. Yesterday I asked, this is from Sue. Yesterday
Speaker 1: I asked the pond te if we are closer to
Speaker 1: official first contact. The response was a little concerning. You
Speaker 1: are closer because of your stars disquiet is increasing?
Speaker 2: Uh oh, well does that mean the stars disquiet.
Speaker 1: Is this quiet? Yeah, because of all the sun these
Speaker 1: the coronial mass ejections, like we have one that's hitting
Speaker 1: our planet right now, They're happening more and more often.
Speaker 1: We are getting blasted, and we have for years than
Speaker 1: they shoeing residents going off the charts for the last
Speaker 1: three four years. So yeah, that's the disquiet of our
Speaker 1: sun is is peaking more and more. I mean, we
Speaker 1: could have the we could have a microNOVA blow of anytime, guys, anytime.
Speaker 3: So I have a question. So are they waiting until
Speaker 3: after that happens for first contact.
Speaker 1: It's kind of no. That's why they want contact to happen.
Speaker 1: That's why the time is run out, and that's why
Speaker 1: that's the reason why there's more push from the government
Speaker 1: now because they realize that the time has run out
Speaker 1: and if they don't disclose, then the Star Nation the
Speaker 1: Federation is going to So that's kind of where things are.
Speaker 1: So we are at that, and.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that's also to help us to protect against
Speaker 3: whatever's happening, or to to have a warning about it
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, to help prepare people, because it's prepare
Speaker 1: you know, the main the mainstream media is not covering this.
Speaker 3: They know, I know, and it's talking about this other
Speaker 3: than you know, Ben Davidson and a few people. That's right, Internet,
Speaker 3: the masses had you know, ninety nine point nine percent
Speaker 3: of people will know nothing about.
Speaker 1: It, that's right, And they want to keep it that
Speaker 1: way because they want to depopularize the planet.
Speaker 3: It is very true.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Yeah, yeah, here we go. Earth's magnetic reversal is
Speaker 1: not gradual, and the resulting weakening magnetosphere allows in radiation
Speaker 1: that kills upper soilcrobes as well as ocean plankton growing
Speaker 1: anything becomes much harder, resulting in starvation. Plankton die off
Speaker 1: means less oxygen new all. Now Ben Davidson has been
Speaker 1: explaining this that because of the movement of the nerd
Speaker 1: of the North Pole, it's weakening our magnetosphere, which protects
Speaker 1: our planet the magnetic field, and so there's more stuff
Speaker 1: that's getting through, more sunlight is getting through, and the
Speaker 1: wheel the field is dampening as weakening. So basically for
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years we lost ten percent of
Speaker 1: our magnetosphere and in the last ten years we lost
Speaker 1: an additional fifteen per set. So it gets it's fast
Speaker 1: and Ben Davidson predicts it'll happen that it'll completely blow
Speaker 1: out by twenty thirty to twenty fifty. This and this
Speaker 1: is what the ponte are talking about, where when it does,
Speaker 1: then we have very little protection from radiation from the
Speaker 1: sun and it'll be won't be safe to be on
Speaker 1: the surface anymore. Drudy said the visiting star nations were
Speaker 1: the ones asking if evacuation plans had been prepared. They
Speaker 1: were inquiring as to how to safely pull their own
Speaker 1: own people out who are on planet, beneath the surface
Speaker 1: or in the oceans. Star nations can't help us until
Speaker 1: their people are stable. Drudy. This happened about three years
Speaker 1: ago and people on on you know, people following the
Speaker 1: PONTEA were panicking a bit because they were talking about
Speaker 1: Star nations showing up from deep space looking at vacu
Speaker 1: euation plans and that's what they're looking at. And what
Speaker 1: they said was that they were expected, they were anticipating
Speaker 1: that are sum is going to go micro nova by
Speaker 1: I think the summer of twenty twenty four. So I
Speaker 1: was on pins and needles like that whole time, wondering
Speaker 1: is this actually going to happen. Fortunately it did not happen.
Speaker 1: But you know, as I said, like you know, we
Speaker 1: are very close. Do you know what we call a
Speaker 1: culture that uses AI to fight its wars, we call
Speaker 1: them extinct. Someone always finds a back door to the programming.
Speaker 1: It never ends well for the designers. Let's keep that
Speaker 1: in mind. This is an important one. What will happen
Speaker 1: if some group or nation attempts to arrange a false
Speaker 1: flag disclosure invasion to discredit Star nations? If a false
Speaker 1: flag alien invasion event were to be pried andataries who
Speaker 1: have arrived for Earth's official first contact became aware of
Speaker 1: the attempted lie. One, they would leave and cancel official
Speaker 1: first contact. Two, forget about any Earth human rescue. Three
Speaker 1: say goodbye future technology sharing. So this is what it's
Speaker 1: at stake. You know, that the governments decided to do
Speaker 1: a false flag alien invasion. It basically fucks the rest
Speaker 1: of us. Sorry to use that language, buttons, it's the
Speaker 1: way it is. Okay, well, this is really really quick.
Speaker 2: What are your what is your opinion on a potential
Speaker 2: false flag invasion? Do you think it'll even be allowed?
Speaker 2: Because it seems like that could easily be stopped by
Speaker 2: whatever groups are here helping us.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that it doesn't happen. But you know, doctor
Speaker 1: Stephen Greer, after watching you know, uh, the Steven Spielberg's
Speaker 1: last movie, he's afraid that he thinks that they are
Speaker 1: setting things up for that. So that's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: something to be worried about, that they might be setting
Speaker 1: up for something like that, like a cataclysmic disclosure of
Speaker 1: you know, doing something like a false flag to unite
Speaker 1: the world to you know, to you know, create more military.
Speaker 1: So I hope it doesn't happen, because if it does,
Speaker 1: we're done. We're screwed. Yeah, And this is this is
Speaker 1: regarding Drudy, isn't This is what she does in her
Speaker 1: pastime when she's off, when she's able to get a
Speaker 1: skipper ship and she goes with a friend down south.
Speaker 1: So she she finds these flocks of birds, you know,
Speaker 1: like bower birds that will fly like in swoop swoop
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Well, they'll telepathically merge with them
Speaker 1: and create ship out, create different shapes and stuff. And
Speaker 1: it's called flying. So she says, uh, first, we ask
Speaker 1: the flock if they wish to create sky images in
Speaker 1: our art sport of fly kiting with us. They are
Speaker 1: seldom asked that. Most of the time the response is yes.
Speaker 1: We suggest a moving image to them telepathically, they try
Speaker 1: to recreate it together. We all have fun.
Speaker 2: So what is that call again? Fly? What?
Speaker 1: Fly kiting?
Speaker 2: Fly kiting? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Interesting? And you see how she's making a heart with
Speaker 1: her arms and the birds are making a hard that's no, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they do. We are now and
Speaker 1: always have been your friends tilcom Commander Well, Sandia Commander.
Speaker 1: Fun Fact number five. Our holiday feasts are very long
Speaker 1: affairs that involve many courses, beginning at dark and ending
Speaker 1: at dawn. However, they are not sit down affairs, but
Speaker 1: small portions we nibble at while retelling old stories until
Speaker 1: the next course about one or two hours later. Kits
Speaker 1: fun Fact number four. We share our experiences of other
Speaker 1: planets back home. They love hearing about Earth and all
Speaker 1: you people. Jill Gah, don't get me started on waiting
Speaker 1: for official first contact. I am so frustrated with the
Speaker 1: Federation and their have patients attitude. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: ready for OFC now radar. So yes, they do work
Speaker 1: with the Federation. The galactic weather storm you are barreling
Speaker 1: into contains areas possessing a high debris field that is
Speaker 1: powerfully magnetic in its makeup. The zone will have a
Speaker 1: profound effect on the strength of Earth's magnetosphere magnetic poles
Speaker 1: and could tilt Earth's axis. Your world is about to
Speaker 1: receive a rather large global reset. Yes, it is inevitable, Zoo.
Speaker 1: We are here to help collect and save the best
Speaker 1: parts of your culture after your son's goes through is
Speaker 1: its upcoming changes. We will also be here to help
Speaker 1: Earth survivors gather together and start their culture. Anew tokom.
Speaker 1: The word honesty. For us, there is an unspoked.
Speaker 2: Nope, we lost here. Oh okay, so yeah, I just
Speaker 2: started to go back and read that one again.
Speaker 1: Read this one. No, the one before, the last, the
Speaker 1: last one, this one, No, I guess this one, that one,
Speaker 1: no one? Yeah, okay, all right. The word honesty for us,
Speaker 1: there is an unspoken meaning nonverbally translates. The honest person
Speaker 1: inside me is specifically appealing to the honest person inside
Speaker 1: you because it's the right minded thing to do. Honesty
Speaker 1: and communication is always invoked by us. It is an
Speaker 1: it's an automatic part of our culture. That of being
Speaker 1: emotionally honest plays a huge role in telepathic societies. We
Speaker 1: have observed. It is not an automatic part of your culture. Well,
Speaker 1: isn't that true? Yep? Traveling millions of miles across space
Speaker 1: to Peti Horse Hospital ships are arriving in your star
Speaker 1: system right now and parking themselves outside of Neptune's orbit.
Speaker 1: Do not assume they are amassing an invasion. Quite the opposite.
Speaker 1: They can't rescue everybody, but can help lots of folks, ZUFU.
Speaker 1: So yes, they are planning a rescue. They are out
Speaker 1: there these massive spaceships that are like planet sized, but
Speaker 1: they will not be able to save all seven point
Speaker 1: eight billion of US. We are currently in the phase
Speaker 1: of introductions. The next phase will include an increase in
Speaker 1: non threatening sightings and intergalactic's our inter rate interactions with
Speaker 1: the pilots and crews of these craft. Have your cell
Speaker 1: phone cameras ready, ZUFU.
Speaker 2: Now I have a question just because I know the audience.
Speaker 2: I already know how the audience is going to respond
Speaker 2: to this portion, because we discussed this on our channel before,
Speaker 2: Like Captain Mark Richards carry Cassidy's whistleblower, you know, he
Speaker 2: said one of the things he said was that any
Speaker 2: narrative where we're going to be rescued or have to
Speaker 2: be evacuated, He's like, I, matter of factly guarantee that's
Speaker 2: just government misinformation and that don't believe in that. So
Speaker 2: what are the chances that some of the messages coming
Speaker 2: from what they think are the Ponty maybe have been
Speaker 2: hijacked because I've just you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: these are very fear based messages and they don't really
Speaker 2: give me a good feeling, which I use as an
Speaker 2: indicator to like, it's keeping people living in fear. Like
Speaker 2: you said, like a year ago or two, you're like
Speaker 2: biting your nails because something might be coming. It just
Speaker 2: seems to me that messages that would put people in
Speaker 2: a fear based state is just for a further attempt
Speaker 2: to control us. So I have questions about this on
Speaker 2: the validity of where this information is coming from. Not
Speaker 2: saying that I don't believe the Ponty are real, but
Speaker 2: what if that somehow could have been intercepted or a
Speaker 2: message gets through the sea or yourself that may not
Speaker 2: be them. Do you have a way to.
Speaker 1: Vet that what that the pontea are alloing to us?
Speaker 2: Uh? No, that it would be potentially the CIA would
Speaker 2: be posing as the Ponte giving messages promoting, you know,
Speaker 2: messages of fear whenever it may be not actually them,
Speaker 2: because we've heard that happen, you know, people say that
Speaker 2: the Federation's been compromised and stuff like that. I'm just
Speaker 2: genuinely asking if you have a vetting process whenever you're
Speaker 2: you're talking to the ponte, how do you know for
Speaker 2: sure that it's them?
Speaker 1: Well, I trust Sue, and I trust the information that
Speaker 1: she's been getting from the Ponte, and the PONTEA have not.
Speaker 1: They have not lied to us once. You know, they've
Speaker 1: been very straightforward. They don't, they're not, they don't. They
Speaker 1: don't fib or or you know, say things that are misconstrued.
Speaker 1: They've been giving the same information, you know, all this time.
Speaker 1: So I believe, you know, I believe what you know,
Speaker 1: what they've told the Ponte or what they've told Sue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just asking because I mean, I know
Speaker 2: other people I know for a fact other people are
Speaker 2: going to have the same questions because we've all been
Speaker 2: misled and lied to and deceived by you know, numerous
Speaker 2: groups before. So it's just people will want to know
Speaker 2: how that vetting process occurs and stuff. So and not
Speaker 2: saying that the Pontier line, I'm just you know, asking
Speaker 2: how that looks for you guys. Whenever you do receive messages.
Speaker 1: Well, we also we also get cooperation from other experiences
Speaker 1: and we cross reference our own experiences. So you guys,
Speaker 1: have you guys interviewed Jeff Selver No, Yeah, you'll want
Speaker 1: to interview interview him because he wrote a book basically
Speaker 1: about a new city that'll be built in the future
Speaker 1: that will be humans and extraterrestrials living together. But what's
Speaker 1: fine I found interesting, which I just found out, is
Speaker 1: the location of where this city will be. And it's
Speaker 1: actually in the location of the only area on the
Speaker 1: United States that will not be underwater after the planet tilts.
Speaker 2: Well, is that in the Southwest region or where do
Speaker 2: you know where that's?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like New Mexico, Colorado region, right, Yeah, I've seen
Speaker 1: those maps. Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3: I just hope that before, you know, there's a massive
Speaker 3: warning before this happens, so people are able to relocate
Speaker 3: or however that works.
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen I've seen the the demos of what
Speaker 1: they did, like to taking Ben Davidson's information and putting
Speaker 1: it into you know, somebody did a planetary thing and
Speaker 1: it took a long time to get it done. And
Speaker 1: I saw what it looks like when the Earth does
Speaker 1: tilt over. So basically the tilt the Earth is going
Speaker 1: to tilt ninety degrees. So just if you can ship,
Speaker 1: if you can imagine, okay, so planet planet Earth, and
Speaker 1: you can imagine North America and South America, the planet
Speaker 1: would like you have to understand that the planet Earth
Speaker 1: is not completely round. It bulges out at the equator
Speaker 1: because it's spinning and water bulges out. Okay, In fact,
Speaker 1: what I understand he said, is that it bulges out
Speaker 1: about twenty one miles. So what happens when you've got
Speaker 1: the planet and you've got North America here, in South
Speaker 1: America here, and then you turn it ninety degrees, what
Speaker 1: happens to the water? Where is it going to go?
Speaker 1: That's the new equator and that's why the majority of
Speaker 1: Canada and the US is completely underwater, and the same
Speaker 1: with Europe. Europe is underwater. It's all underwater.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so it sounds like higher ground, the higher
Speaker 3: elevation you go, the better the elevation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the Colorado, New Mexico and just kind of
Speaker 1: north of that area, United States. So the West Coast
Speaker 1: is underwater, the East Coast is underwater, and pretty much
Speaker 1: all of Canada is underwater.
Speaker 3: I would be underwater right right now.
Speaker 1: I would too. I will do it too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tells might be safe. You might be safe in Sedona.
Speaker 1: There might be safe in Sedona. Yeah. Yeah. So we
Speaker 1: are currently in the phase of introductions. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: I did that one already. Yeah, we can bring you
Speaker 1: great life experiences. Then you can possibly imagine we've been
Speaker 1: exploring this galaxy for the sixteen million years. So basically
Speaker 1: what they're saying here is that our future is star Trek,
Speaker 1: that we will be traveling stars and exploring galalaxies with
Speaker 1: them and other star nations who are waiting for us
Speaker 1: to grow up a little bit more. And if we,
Speaker 1: you know, we can get to that point and then
Speaker 1: join the Galactic Federation. Our future is star Trek. We
Speaker 1: are not here to stop Earth military conflicts with each other.
Speaker 1: Learning how to get along and live together and peace
Speaker 1: is a hallmark of a world ready for contact, not
Speaker 1: the other way around. Grayson, you cannot be a telepathic
Speaker 1: nation and ignore love because unconditional love is one of
Speaker 1: the energies that binds us all together. It is part
Speaker 1: of the very fabric of the collective consciousness. It is
Speaker 1: more than a chemical reaction or feeling. Love is our
Speaker 1: way of being Judy. According to our sources, the moon
Speaker 1: was brought here for ocean and planet stabilization. The need
Speaker 1: was recognized and addressed after the cataclysm and extinction level
Speaker 1: event that affected the Reptilian population here.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. And just to clarify, reptaarian means the reptilians
Speaker 2: that were local native to the planet exactly.
Speaker 1: Bingo, Yeah, check, I'm bred. Oh I was here. I
Speaker 1: was here when this happened. It's because Sue and I
Speaker 1: were We were sitting in the UH and she she
Speaker 1: turned to the mountain to ask them what they were
Speaker 1: what they were doing. Once when we asked the Mountain
Speaker 1: Information Station desk if they were busy, the response that
Speaker 1: came back was shit, no, we're over here twiddling our
Speaker 1: not existent thumbs. M. Of course, that's hilarious. That was
Speaker 1: so funny. Regarding nuclear tensions, we have crews in low
Speaker 1: orbit watching preparing to intervene if necessary. Yes, extra trestrials
Speaker 1: have stopped nuclear disasters from happening several times on this planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1: Well, I know that for a fact. Your nuclear weapons
Speaker 1: are being rendered ineffective when telepathically. It is clear that
Speaker 1: Kiwa Earth humans decision is made to utilize these devices,
Speaker 1: the Federation cannot allow. Remember, okay, remember close to seventy
Speaker 1: five percent of evers visitors come because of your ocean's inhabitants,
Speaker 1: not because they want to interact with you. You have not
Speaker 1: yet reached advanced civilization level zero. Many of your ocean's
Speaker 1: native sentient nations have. One of the biggest perks of
Speaker 1: being stationed at the station at Sandia Mountain Information Station
Speaker 1: here in North America is the pizza. It's all about
Speaker 1: the cheese poll. Don't you know one long cycle of
Speaker 1: dramatic planetary changes has come around again. By our calculations,
Speaker 1: you are going to need a little outside assistance. The
Speaker 1: trainees' Sandia Mountain Information Station. We seek right minded Kiwa
Speaker 1: Earth humans who have put down their fears. We are
Speaker 1: selective about those who have reached a level of emotional
Speaker 1: mature and honesty. We are aware that we face a
Speaker 1: bit of a pr problem approaching ofc Graason qualities of
Speaker 1: Earth humans who are ready for contact, honesty studies, the
Speaker 1: telepathy one oh one prem has put aside their fears,
Speaker 1: desires to make new friends, humble, ready to learn, open
Speaker 1: to sharing, culture and humor. Grayson. Our goal, which is
Speaker 1: also the Federation's goal, is to is the attempt to
Speaker 1: help you save the best of your many Earth's cultures.
Speaker 1: If relocation to another world is necessary, we can help
Speaker 1: you speak with the Federation about this matter. It is
Speaker 1: not a small request new all. Regarding our ships, we
Speaker 1: specifically invite the souls of former incarnation was as a
Speaker 1: trained amorphic deep ocean aquatic explorer, or a soul who's
Speaker 1: previously had experienced joining with a vessel and working with
Speaker 1: a crew. Those who wish to continue exploring new worlds
Speaker 1: are selected PETA. Yes, their shifts have consciousness. Your magnetosphere's
Speaker 1: weakening will continue to nose dive fast. We estimate it
Speaker 1: to be just to begin to bottom out between twenty
Speaker 1: thirty five and twenty fifty. Once your magnetic shield goes
Speaker 1: Earth is susceptible to a sudden physical tilt and rewriting
Speaker 1: followed by high mile high slash tsunamis just shoot hoops
Speaker 1: with your telepathic basketball. When you the telepathic sender at
Speaker 1: the tunnel from you to the hoop your teleopathic receiver,
Speaker 1: you suddenly have a tool that helps your telepathic sending score.
Speaker 1: Every time. Telepathy doesn't have a speed, it doesn't need
Speaker 1: one because it doesn't go anywhere. It's already there. This
Speaker 1: is mind blowing to me. This It explains why they
Speaker 1: can communicate to their planet, which is forty light years
Speaker 1: away in real time. Telepathy does not travel the speed
Speaker 1: of light. It doesn't go anywhere, it's already there. That
Speaker 1: just completely just blows my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just reading a book from George van Tassel where
Speaker 2: he was channeling to ET's in the fifties, and they
Speaker 2: said light doesn't travel. It just is. So essentially they're
Speaker 2: not They're not traveling in a sense that we understand
Speaker 2: they're traveling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, our staff here have begun the rotating shifts that
Speaker 1: everyone here can celebrate our yearly thank you ceremony. Once
Speaker 1: a year, we take four days to pray nothing but
Speaker 1: thank you for everything we can think of. During this time,
Speaker 1: we sip soup, symbolizing the collective consciousness till come. Other
Speaker 1: types of humans in this galaxy are numerous, and there
Speaker 1: are more than one hundred thousand variations. The term human
Speaker 1: is not related to reproductive compatibility. The human body type
Speaker 1: has also been found in many other galaxies, but we
Speaker 1: do not know about all of them. Hip, we are
Speaker 1: not so different. There you go. That's the end of
Speaker 1: the presentations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting stuff. It's fantastic, Yeah, thank you, very interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm curious about this event. I just have
Speaker 2: to question whenever I hear narratives like that, it's just
Speaker 2: because it's just I don't know. It just seems like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like that it appeals to people
Speaker 2: that are still in like a savior complex mentality, like
Speaker 2: we don't worry will save you. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if in my mind that's not necessarily the way it's
Speaker 2: going to go down that I don't. I also know
Speaker 2: that I don't know, so you could be one hundred
Speaker 2: percent right, and it's just a reservation within me that
Speaker 2: makes me question it that I have to sit with.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate you sharing all that, and I don't disagree,
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying they're lying. And I do think
Speaker 2: that some sort of cycle is inevitable as far as
Speaker 2: presenting messages to humanity that oh, you're all going to
Speaker 2: be underwater that puts people in a state of fear,
Speaker 2: and the next slide is talking about love. So it's
Speaker 2: hard to decipher the truth whenever you're going from love
Speaker 2: to fear, to love to fear, from slide to slide.
Speaker 2: So to me, it's it's hard to really determine whether
Speaker 2: or not. It's just interesting to me the way it's presented,
Speaker 2: and I don't know how to feel about it, and
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is that you know, these what's happening
Speaker 1: with the planet is out of our control. But this
Speaker 1: is also the reason why they are trying to have
Speaker 1: official first contact, because we are going to need help.
Speaker 1: And it's not the first time that's our nations have
Speaker 1: gotten involved. Two during these cataclysms where they have relocated people,
Speaker 1: you know, the Zuni and hoping it's in their history
Speaker 1: about them being moved underground to with the with the
Speaker 1: ant people to live the underground and as and you
Speaker 1: know Clipferd has talked about it as well, where they
Speaker 1: have relocated people to safer areas above ground and even
Speaker 1: build homes for them. They also there's a potential for
Speaker 1: to relocate certain people off planet who are ready for that,
Speaker 1: who are of a high enough consciousness to be able
Speaker 1: to integrate with Star nations. So and I think only
Speaker 1: about ten percent of the population is probably ready for that.
Speaker 1: So it depends on which level that you're at, you know,
Speaker 1: of where you'll end up being, you know, And but
Speaker 1: the sooner that we can actually address these problems, the better,
Speaker 1: because if we wait until you know that the government
Speaker 1: keeps in control and keeps things back, and then the
Speaker 1: cataclysm happens, what's going to happen? Then you know they're
Speaker 1: only going to be able to rescue those so many
Speaker 1: people before before things can happen. So it's really it's
Speaker 1: a catch twenty two. It needs to be addressed. FC
Speaker 1: needs to happen sooner than later so that we can
Speaker 1: save or save species.
Speaker 3: Because if it is a real event that is you know,
Speaker 3: expected to occur, or that is a high possibility of occurring,
Speaker 3: then it's really then it's it's not Then it's not really.
Speaker 3: Then it's just about the way you go about sharing
Speaker 3: that and not being super alarmist where you're working everyone
Speaker 3: up into a frenzy about it and doing it in
Speaker 3: an unhealthy way. But like you know, able to present
Speaker 3: the data that present the very real warning of it
Speaker 3: without getting too much in the fear energy too much
Speaker 3: and the panic energy. And I think that's probably why
Speaker 3: they haven't because if you've noticed, most people, like I said,
Speaker 3: have no idea about this.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And granted that's also because our governments and the elite don't,
Speaker 3: like you said, they do want the depopulation happen for
Speaker 3: nefarious purposes, of course, but the benevolent eties also don't
Speaker 3: want to don't want to stir into a panic and
Speaker 3: then to fear as well. So the big conundrum, or
Speaker 3: the big dilemma or thing to figure out is how
Speaker 3: do we how do we tell and warn the people
Speaker 3: about this and inform them about this but not but
Speaker 3: do it in a way that it's beneficial and doesn't
Speaker 3: stir everyone into a panic and cause more damage and
Speaker 3: everyone fear. Right, So I'm assuming that's that's a big
Speaker 3: thing they're trying to work out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they've had to do things the way
Speaker 1: they have as slowly as they can, which you know,
Speaker 1: jeopardizes the mission, but they don't want to have cataclysmic
Speaker 1: disclosure everybody panics. So it's like it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: an Aukham's razor, it really is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And I don't want you to think I
Speaker 2: was being disrespectful by questioning that or challenging that. I'm
Speaker 2: just genuinely.
Speaker 1: Kiddus a good question.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I'm humble enough to you know, self
Speaker 2: correct and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. And like I said,
Speaker 2: I know that I don't know, and just because I
Speaker 2: maybe don't believe something is going to happen, that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean I'm right, you know. So I'd just like to
Speaker 2: be vocal about that because I know other people are
Speaker 2: going to have similar thoughts, and uh, you know what
Speaker 2: Aaron just kind of described, and it helped me actually
Speaker 2: see it a little understand it a little better. And
Speaker 2: by mentioning how the hope he had been rescued and helped,
Speaker 2: you know, assist it underground for the last cataclysm, So
Speaker 2: you know, I hadn't considered that it's happened before.
Speaker 3: Where we hear about Oh yeah, these groups went underground
Speaker 3: and they've been living underground since, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, So I guess it's just something that I I
Speaker 2: should sit with more and consider as a possibility as
Speaker 2: as opposed to no, I don't believe that's going to happen,
Speaker 2: you know, because I don't know, and what if I'm wrong?
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you sharing everything, and I and I
Speaker 2: it's absolutely fascinating everything that you've brought to the table today,
Speaker 2: and thank you for putting all that together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Is there any final words that you'd like to leave
Speaker 2: us with before we wrap this up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the excellent to each other.
Speaker 2: Nice, yes right, well, no, I mean I do like
Speaker 2: their messages of love and understanding. You know how crucial
Speaker 2: that is. That's important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of wisdom there for sure.
Speaker 2: So I guess let our audience know one more time.
Speaker 2: The social media accounts, even your own. I know you.
Speaker 2: You're a musician. You you have a band, Pyramids on Mars.
Speaker 2: You want to tell everybody about what kind of what
Speaker 2: you have going on and where they can find you.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, well yeah, my band Pyramids on Mars uh
Speaker 1: is instrumental rock, you know. But all but a lot
Speaker 1: of the things that I do in my music are
Speaker 1: actually teachings from the Ponte which are incorporated into my music.
Speaker 1: Telepathic storytelling, tonal language, it's all integrated, you know, with
Speaker 1: the Ponte have taught me, and so I've learned from
Speaker 1: them and I've incorporated those elements into my music. So
Speaker 1: it's my music is quite unique. I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: ever become a very world famous musician. That's not my
Speaker 1: purpose here in my life. My music will be discovered
Speaker 1: later on when they understand what it was that I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And that I had et teachers for it. But you know,
Speaker 1: my website's Pyramids on Mars dot com. I'm also the
Speaker 1: host of art of You Pyramids of Mars UFO Radio
Speaker 1: on the Artists First network. So if you go to
Speaker 1: artist for artists First dot com and you'll see a
Speaker 1: picture knee and the click on there and there's you
Speaker 1: know this is we just had our ten year anniversary
Speaker 1: this year, so yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll put that into description. Yeah, definitely. And
Speaker 2: where can people listen to your music? Just on the
Speaker 2: website or is it.
Speaker 1: The website will take you have links to It'll take
Speaker 1: you to band camp where you can listen to the albums.
Speaker 1: You can also find me like on Spotify, I and
Speaker 1: you know anywhere else that you listen to music online.
Speaker 1: Let's live up Pyramids on Mars. You'll my music there
Speaker 1: and took it out.
Speaker 2: And you have an x account just under your name,
Speaker 2: Kevin Ostrella and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pyramids on Mars underscore.
Speaker 2: Okay, Pyramids on Mars, and then Sandia Wisdom is I
Speaker 2: guess Sue Walker straight sharing information on behalf of the Ponte.
Speaker 2: So get on next guys and go follow those pages.
Speaker 2: And I do want to mention also that after we
Speaker 2: interviewed Sue the first time, or maybe it was the
Speaker 2: first time after I learned watch one of her interviews.
Speaker 2: It's been so long, I don't remember. I've had the
Speaker 2: Ponte come to me twice in the dream state, and
Speaker 2: it felt very real, to the point where I don't
Speaker 2: question whether or not it was them. I don't remember
Speaker 2: much of the encounter, but they they did come to me,
Speaker 2: and I was actually at one point I was I
Speaker 2: Sue gave me the contact, the primer, and I was,
Speaker 2: you know, reading through that and kind of working with that.
Speaker 2: So I think maybe they showed up because of that.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of time since I've actually tried
Speaker 2: to be established or had any experiences with them, so
Speaker 2: it is possible. And I do believe that. I'm not
Speaker 2: like trying to discount anything they said. I was just
Speaker 2: questioning the vetting process earlier. But I want to clarify
Speaker 2: that I do understand that they're They're very real, and
Speaker 2: I don't doubt their existence or the messages, you know, as.
Speaker 3: Far as there and there is so much there is,
Speaker 3: you know, so many agendas and disinformation out there, and
Speaker 3: like it's good to just in a healthy way question
Speaker 3: everything right and a healthy yeah.
Speaker 1: I just want to yelp. I wanted to give up
Speaker 1: presentation of so you get an idea of who they
Speaker 1: are as people. I mean, that's only that's only touching
Speaker 1: the stuff the you know, just touching the surface of
Speaker 1: how many means we've created. I've created, like I'm almost
Speaker 1: three hundred of them from stuff that they told us.
Speaker 3: Right, wow, that's that's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also we're both going to be speaking in ASTech,
Speaker 2: New Mexico September can Well it's yeah, well it's actually
Speaker 2: moved from Chaco Canyon. It's not in Chaco Canyon anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought we were gonna be doing day excursions. Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: you'll be going to Chaco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be going there, but the actual conference is
Speaker 2: at the Tico time okay, yeah, all right, yeah yeah
Speaker 2: and in Aztech, New Mexico September twenty first through to
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, And if you guys are interested, I'll be
Speaker 2: presenting Soli Kevin and I think Brad Olsen will be there,
Speaker 2: Laura Eisenhower, Lily Nova Issa that you know, I forgot
Speaker 2: the whole lineup, but it's it's gonna be fun. It
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun last year when we were
Speaker 2: in Taco Canyon and that whole windstorm, that windstorm blew. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So if anyone's interested, I think it's Quantum Disclosure Project
Speaker 2: dot com. You can purchase tickets and come hang out
Speaker 2: with us in September and Aztec, New Mexico. And thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us today, Kevin. Fascinating, fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3: Amazing, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, we appreciate everything you're doing. And uh, by
Speaker 2: the way, I was going to ask you or have
Speaker 2: you clarify this the artwork behind you, that's Sue's artwork.
Speaker 1: Correct art work, that's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she's the one who is drawing them, and
Speaker 2: she also is also something we didn't get into. You
Speaker 2: mentioned briefly, she communicates and draws a sasquatch as well.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: That's a whole other side of this that we didn't
Speaker 2: get into today. But have you ever had any communication
Speaker 2: with them yourself?
Speaker 1: Absolutely with the sasquatch? Well, yeah yeah, I had one
Speaker 1: showed up my apartment and in intermensional form and actually
Speaker 1: wrapped his arm around my back and gave you a
Speaker 1: hug and grunted, like my whole body does vibrate it.
Speaker 1: I got a hug from the Sasquatch. I think that's
Speaker 1: because I, you know, on on my show, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of people like you know, Sunbow who speaks,
Speaker 1: Mike Patterson from Sasquatch Ontario, Garrett Duncan, I have all them.
Speaker 1: So I'm really helping education, educating people about the Sasquatch people.
Speaker 1: And I think I know that they're very happy with
Speaker 1: me with that. Also, when I visited Sue several times
Speaker 1: in New Mexico, I was told that I was picked
Speaker 1: up and I was taken by the pond tea. And
Speaker 1: I've been witnessed to stomp and growls with with the Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: So they've taken me to some of their ceremonies. I
Speaker 1: just don't remember it.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Sasquatch here in the Sedona area, I've had a
Speaker 2: number of experiences since i've been here there. They want
Speaker 2: to talk. They're like they're ready for this open contact,
Speaker 2: just like everyone else's. So yeah, okay, well, thank you
Speaker 2: so much. I guess we'll go ahead and wrap this up.
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time and putting this together and sharing
Speaker 2: this message with everybody, and thank you guys all for
Speaker 2: being here. Go check out the website Quantum Disclosure Project
Speaker 2: if you're interested in joining the conference in Aztec, New Mexico,
Speaker 2: and Awake within the Dream Productions dot com if you
Speaker 2: would like to more information about the Mont Shasta conference
Speaker 2: coming up July sixteenth through to twentieth, so go check
Speaker 2: that out. Those links will be below in the description.
Speaker 2: We love you, thank you for being here. Have a
Speaker 2: great evening. Until next time,