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As always, listener discretion 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:12.199 is advised. 5 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:20.320 We got someone or something crawling around out here? 6 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:27.160 Does a legend walk among us working in the forests 7 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:28.600 of our world? 8 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:32.240 Did you see what it was? 9 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:34.920 Was it a person or an animal? 10 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:35.840 Or I can't go? 11 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:38.000 Oh, I know as if my thunder light came on 12 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:39.759 and I get that a to glimp and see the 13 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:41.079 thing running across the. 14 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.799 Yard, A good fight man or something. 15 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:44.200 Looks like a man. 16 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:45.039 I don't know what it was. 17 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:55.159 For over fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, 18 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:59.320 and witnesses trying to gain insight and truth around the 19 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:02.000 existence of this mysterious entity. 20 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:09.920 Jesus quite but Karl Fel, Hello, get somebody out of here. 21 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:11.159 What's going to announce there? 22 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.040 I thought, amc about six foot nine? I don't know 23 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:15.280 easy announced there? 24 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:16.400 Yeah, I'm booking. 25 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:22.000 Right ry Oh, okay, hands your yard turn, Yeah, got 26 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:22.599 it's big. 27 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:24.480 Okay, what's he doing in your yard? 28 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:25.959 We're gonna move. 29 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:37.680 Join us as we continue into the investigation of the 30 00:01:37.760 --> 00:02:03.640 Sasquatch Experience. And well, good evening everybody. You're here on 31 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:10.400 Monday night, September December ninth, twenty twenty four, and you're 32 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:15.599 watching the Sasquatch Experience here on Facebook, YouTube, wherever you're 33 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.240 consuming this. We're glad you are on x X is 34 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:22.039 a great platform to watch us on politics aside, people 35 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.080 seem to like us over there. 36 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:24.599 So there we are. 37 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:26.919 And it looks like we lost Vance there for a second, 38 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.080 so we'll bring him back when he comes back. It's 39 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.520 been an interesting night of technical difficulties, which is why 40 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.159 this is the last show we're hosting on stream Yard. 41 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.879 And get A. And it looks like he's back there. 42 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:41.159 He is. 43 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:48.800 Welcome back, Vance, Yeah, because I want to adjust my volume. 44 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:51.240 He wanted to adjust and that's what happened. 45 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:51.639 Folks. 46 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:57.639 Sometimes adjustings just not worth it. But as we start. 47 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.000 Tonight's show, Matt and I yus are prid to announce 48 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:03.439 we were on the first episode of the Appalachian Bigfoot 49 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:09.520 Files with Alex Petacov. We're in the small Town Monsters channel. 50 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.520 That was a lot of fun to film, that was it? 51 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:11.639 Not? 52 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:21.039 Oh my God, that was a blast. Those guys here, uh, Brian, Mike, 53 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:26.199 Ann Alex, Alex's brother, you know, me and you. We 54 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:31.560 had a great time filming that in the spring, late winter, 55 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:36.039 early spring. I didn't get to watch the full show, 56 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.039 but we did have a little bit of snow uh 57 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.360 on the night that they were up there by themselves. 58 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:48.560 So yeah, it was It was fantastic too, uh to 59 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:51.280 go in and film that. And we have some other 60 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.439 projects that are in the pipeline. We can't really say 61 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.039 too much, but uh, you know, we're definitely uh, you know, 62 00:03:58.199 --> 00:04:02.719 keep working with the small town Monster is Trew, Alex, Mike, Brian, 63 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:07.000 you know, any of those guys. We love to go 64 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:10.520 out in the field with them. Mike Lucci, I forgot 65 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:11.039 about Mike. 66 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:14.520 Freaking cold, Matt, That's what I remember for. 67 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:22.000 That trip, freaking cold and uh it's those Pennsylvania late spring, 68 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.199 early springs, late winters, you know that can be really 69 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:30.399 tested around the mountain. You just don't know what to expect. Yes, correct, 70 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:32.360 it was a good time. It was a lot of fun. 71 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:33.480 I mean for you and I. 72 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:37.199 You know, that trip wasn't. 73 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:41.959 Exactly fruitful for us as a group, but subsequent visits 74 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.759 to that location from you and I have been you know, 75 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:46.079 in that area have. 76 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:46.720 Been pretty fruitful. 77 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.319 As we talked about it on the last couple of shows, 78 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:52.040 you know, not that the labor a point, but it 79 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.879 was a great We're getting some great results out of 80 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:01.079 that area and looking forward to more, especially now as 81 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.480 we start getting into the you know, the time of 82 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.279 year where I like to be out in the out 83 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.680 in the woods, you know, hunting seasons ending for the 84 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.079 most part, it's just colder after Saturday. 85 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.319 After Saturday, then we have a little bit of a 86 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:23.160 break before the late season starts. So we have until 87 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:27.439 from Saturday until Christmas, uh to go out there. And Uh, 88 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:31.720 it's a great time because you don't have leaves on 89 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:36.079 the trees unless you're talking about evergreen forest, which we're 90 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:39.720 primarily hardwoods here in Pennsylvania. So if you have a drone, 91 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:45.959 although be careful with the drones, especially in New Jersey, right, Yeah, 92 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.360 if you have if you have a d yeah, exactly. 93 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:55.040 You know, we're just being able to be out on 94 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.879 on a summit or a ridgetop and being able to 95 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.319 look into the valleys. Uh, it's amazing how much wildlife 96 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.240 you can you can actually see especially during the day, 97 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:07.959 some of the animals are going to be laid down. 98 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.680 They do what's called thermal cover, so they'll find the 99 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:17.040 the the evergreens because it's gonna be a little warmer 100 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:21.519 temperature there. But a sharp eye, good said binoculars. You 101 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:24.639 can you can see them, you know, from across the valley. 102 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:29.160 So keep your eyes open and look for tracks. It's 103 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:30.920 a good time to look for that if you got 104 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:35.319 some snow on the ground. And our friend that we 105 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:38.360 talked to up in Potter County, he had mentioned that 106 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.639 as well, that one of the snowmobile trails up there 107 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:45.480 that's unnamed, you know, he had said that he had 108 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:50.199 found some some decent prints up there. So that's the now, 109 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.040 it's the time to get out there and do it. 110 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:56.439 Matt, have you heard any preliminary harvest numbers yet from anybody? 111 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:59.680 What's the hunting like from around here? It seems like 112 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:01.639 a lot of people are coming up short. 113 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:07.079 Yeah, Actually deer numbers in Pennsylvania. It was actually an 114 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:15.519 incredible opening day and day uh actually did very well. Yeah, 115 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:20.600 some people, but uh as the weather and uh, you know, 116 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.959 it kind of got colder and uh we got a 117 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:27.439 little clipper system coming in. It kind of put the 118 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.160 hunting down a little bit. Uh. I know, bear numbers 119 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:35.040 are slightly down from last year from the preliminary harvest, 120 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.399 but it's still a little early to talk about the dear. 121 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:42.639 But what the US has extended deer thess with archery 122 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:49.000 starting uh the earliest uh an early muscleoader season youth time. 123 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:55.000 Uh So there's a couple of different uh uh you 124 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.560 know mixes in there that we hadn't had in years 125 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.519 with the Yeah, pretty decent. I know for me, I 126 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.040 was gonna be out. I only got out one day 127 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:11.040 and that was because I so I ended up in 128 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:15.519 like a walking pneumonia. I'm still recovering from it. I 129 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:17.120 had a whole week off, I know, I had a 130 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.279 whole week off from work just to go hunting, and 131 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.800 I pretty much spent it here. You know. 132 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:26.199 Well, sorry to hear that now. I will say, Saturday, 133 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:29.639 on my way up to Erie, I went up for 134 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:35.600 the crampus, not night up in Erie. Uh that Saturday morning. 135 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.039 I left early. There are lots of hunters out, yeah, yeah, 136 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:41.440 and so I mean it's great to see. 137 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:42.919 Uh. I was just curious. 138 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:45.919 You know, oftentimes we you know, think about people being 139 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:47.600 out there. When are we going to start seeing some 140 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:48.519 sightings come in? 141 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:50.120 Uh? 142 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:53.399 You and I are you know, talked about the reports 143 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.080 that have come in over the last couple of weeks 144 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:57.879 that we received, and of course we've put that on 145 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.799 our Patreon for our Patreon followers. You can subscribe for 146 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:07.960 as little as two dollars a month. No response yet 147 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.519 from those folks, So just waiting to hear back to 148 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:14.360 see if we can get especially that one near Williamsport. 149 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:17.679 Outside of Williamsport, I think close to the land lot 150 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:22.600 five six bake. It would be really interesting to get 151 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:23.320 out and see. 152 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:24.519 So anxious to hear. 153 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.600 I just reloaded on my camera, so let's see what 154 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:28.080 we get. 155 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.200 Nice. 156 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:36.039 Ah, I am getting a lot of deer and pheasant track. 157 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:39.240 I'm getting a lot of you know, and I've noticed 158 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.720 it's improved since I've improved their their food. This is 159 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:45.320 something me and Forker were playing with. 160 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.639 What ten years ago, fifteen years ago. 161 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.799 What we're talking about Dan a sasquatch garden. The water 162 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:58.440 company was not impressed. If you find well, yeah, if 163 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:02.039 you find an area where you think there may be something, 164 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.879 look for the food sources. Like I kind of was 165 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.080 a I was kind of searching today, and you know, 166 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:13.279 the average bear needs five thousand calories a day, okay, 167 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.600 and during during fall they go into like a bloat 168 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:18.879 because they're going to go into hibernation. They need like 169 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:23.600 twenty thousand calories a day. The average eight is the 170 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.080 same as we do. So it matters to what size 171 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:29.080 you are, Like, I'm five eleven, what do you fork? 172 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:30.799 Or five eight? 173 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:31.720 No? 174 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:32.720 Five five? 175 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:38.519 It was trying to be nice, Yeah, Matt, you're like 176 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:44.360 what six eight? Yeah, okay, my weight is I'm not 177 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:45.519 going through everybody's way. 178 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:46.720 Henry, what do you I've. 179 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.559 Never seen you standing up, so I'm not sure. 180 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:56.440 At least you're tolerant dustin. But anyway, so, like I 181 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.399 was looking at a lot of that, and they were saying, 182 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.399 you know that the average person in anywhere from five 183 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.200 foot to six foot, it's like two to three thousand calories, 184 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.240 you know. And during the winter it boats up too, 185 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:10.360 because a good portion you burn a lot of calories 186 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:11.360 just staying warm. 187 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.720 Because of the kind of creatures we are, you know. 188 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:16.639 And I was just we had decided that we were 189 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.120 going to bait an area, not not to kill anything, 190 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.399 but just to like give it some extra food to 191 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:25.440 think maybe it'd show up more. 192 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:30.200 That thing, right, some of the areas that you you 193 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:32.120 you're working on mat or is there a lot of 194 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:34.399 food sources there, because it seems like if you. 195 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.519 Have bear and deer and they're beating down that many 196 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.240 calories a day, it's got to be something. 197 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.279 I mean, yeah, the bear eating the deer, but the 198 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:42.440 deer got to be eating something. 199 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.399 No, you know what, actually both of them, both the 200 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.960 deer and the beer, especially this year, which kind of 201 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.240 indicated that we were going to get a good winner. 202 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.320 There was a lot of hard masts, which is your acorns, 203 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.480 especially here in Pennsylvania, and you know what I mean, 204 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.159 those those are themselves. I think that this way, it's 205 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.279 like eating uh to us, like eating like a bottle 206 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:10.559 in academia nuts, you know, like they're delicious for the 207 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.759 deer and the bear. They offer a lot of nutrients, 208 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:22.480 especially adding to fat natural fat. So yeah, so I 209 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.600 noticed this year, like you know, there's always a lot 210 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:31.519 of different folklore traditions out there about you know, how 211 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.679 do you tell, uh, you know, if it's gonna be 212 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.200 a bad winner? You know, like you know, you look 213 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.519 at the hair of a cow if it's rough or 214 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:46.039 you know, you look at the those buggers, Yeah, if 215 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:51.799 they're you know that those uh they're the brown in 216 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:57.279 black uh you know, basically uh caterpillars, and you look 217 00:12:57.320 --> 00:13:00.120 to see, Okay, if it's more brown, it means it's 218 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.879 going to be a you know, like a lighter winter. 219 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:04.639 If it's more black, it's going to be a heavier, 220 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.440 uh heavier winter. So we're we go through and we 221 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.480 look at stuff like that. But I do know, like 222 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:16.120 I said, this was a very very heavy uh year 223 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.679 for hard mass. So any of those animals are going 224 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:23.320 to be eating eating that and uh putting those calories 225 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:24.559 on excellent. 226 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.200 And our guest has joined us tonight here, how are you, sir? 227 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:32.279 Yes, a little bit late. I had to get doing 228 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:33.519 a little limit job earlier. 229 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:35.480 So oh no, that's fine, that's fine. 230 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:40.559 You're just talking about uh bear harvest, deer harvest, and uh, 231 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:42.440 you know, some indicators for a heavy winter. 232 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:42.879 Here. 233 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:44.200 Uh. 234 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:49.480 Folcus is Glenn from Northeast p A. Glenn is part 235 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:53.159 of the Pennsylvania big Foot Project. He's on Facebook. Uh 236 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.240 Glenn at the Central PA Bigfoot Festival. And yeah, we've 237 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.919 met a couple of times I think, yeah, they're yeah, 238 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:02.559 And I wanted to get Glenn on the show because 239 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.600 first of all, you know, we're a bigfoot show, and 240 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:07.000 second of all, my heart always goes out to the 241 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.600 Pennsylvania guys, because you know, for the majority of us, 242 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.279 that's what we are and our state. Glenn, I think 243 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:17.559 it's very underreported with the amount of Bigfoot sightings we 244 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:21.559 get when it comes to some of the larger national databases. 245 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.279 I don't know about you, but I sure say we 246 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.679 have more than one hundred and forty big foot reports 247 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:29.360 out there, definitely. 248 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:32.879 I mean, but then in any state you get that too, 249 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:36.879 that a lot of people just never come forward, right, So. 250 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.240 Glenn, how did you get involved in Bigfoot? How did 251 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.279 this unfold for you? 252 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:46.799 Okay? I moved from Colorado to Arizona when I was 253 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:51.000 probably about fifteen years old. My family moved from one 254 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:55.840 area to open a new restaurant in Arizona. So first day, 255 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:01.240 go ahead, Sorry, I thought someone I had a question 256 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:01.759 real quick. 257 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.320 I had a question about the restaurant, but I had 258 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:06.360 nothing new the story. 259 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.159 Okay, I'll tell you about that later. Yeah. Food, oh yeah, 260 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.840 food is always good. My grandmother's recipes always family recipes. 261 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:17.080 I just made some short ripped of the night from 262 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:22.639 on one of our recipes. So good anyway, So I 263 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.919 started hearing some The first time I noticed it, I 264 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.639 was up our trailer was that we rented when we 265 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:32.720 were remodeling the place. The restaurant was way up on 266 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:37.159 the top of the reservation in Arizona, so it backed 267 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:40.840 up against the reservation bob wire fans or whatever. But 268 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:43.840 I would go out there with my headphones on and 269 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:47.799 smoke cigarettes outside and my sister would turn over the 270 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:52.000 record player for me, right the records inside. This is 271 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.960 back in seventy seventy five or something, and I kept 272 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.039 hearing this wood knocking, and I thought it was like, 273 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:01.679 you know, up in wood or something way out there 274 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.279 in the middle. I didn't think that much of it. 275 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.279 So about five months later we moved down to where 276 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.080 we opened the restaurant. And things are going different, you know, 277 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.039 everything's going great. And I was leaving a friend of 278 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.759 mine's house late at night, walking a friend's girlfriend home, 279 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.480 and this was, you know, two thirty in the morning, 280 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.480 left a little birthday party. Walking her home. I walked 281 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:27.840 past this one house where the dogs had been barking, 282 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:31.919 and nothing they hadn't been a problem on the way 283 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.000 past there. Take good night to her. She went in 284 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:38.799 through her window, came back through. I walked back toward 285 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.240 that house. The dogs were just raising hell, I mean, 286 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:47.840 just vicious something that was really bothering the dog. So 287 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:49.799 I was on that side of the road. I started 288 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:52.799 crossing the road. As I was crossing the road, I 289 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.799 get about halfway past the house and about halfway across 290 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:00.279 the road, and the dogs went silent. And they were 291 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.080 past the house a little bit right. They were right, 292 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:09.400 you know, there just silent, no sound at all. And 293 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.359 I just kept walking, kept walking, kept walking, And as 294 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:16.839 I got past the house, about fifteen twenty feet maybe 295 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:24.480 this roar started from up in this trees, this huge roar. 296 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:27.799 It was so loud, the vibration was going through my 297 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:34.319 body from about fifty sixty yards away. It was the 298 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:39.160 most amazing sound that I can't imagine. It was like 299 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:44.119 standing in front of a concert speaker from that far away. 300 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.119 And this went on for like fifteen or twenty seconds. 301 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.880 And I never stopped. I didn't run. Something just instincts 302 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:56.680 said don't run, just keep walking. And pretty soon this 303 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:59.839 sounds this, I mean, it was just this pissed off. 304 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:05.400 It was just screaming and shaking the tree, and it 305 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:10.519 finally stopped. And it never stopped. And they say that 306 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:13.400 they can speak on the inlet and outlet of their breath, 307 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.559 and I could. I could attest to that because it 308 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:22.720 never deviated from this roar that it was doing. And 309 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:25.839 it was going on for I mean, what seemed like forever, 310 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.839 but it was only like fifteen or twenty seconds. But 311 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.240 trust me, that's a long time when you're a fifteen 312 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:33.880 year old kid walking in an area that you don't 313 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:38.680 know about. And this down was coming from about thirty 314 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:41.200 feet in the air. Thirty five feet in the air, 315 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:46.279 So that's because it was coming down to me, done 316 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:51.400 down at me. But from the the loudness of it, 317 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.160 it could have been standing on the ground. 318 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:59.839 In my mind, that's how big this you know, yell was. 319 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.839 So when it stopped and I'm going, I kept walking 320 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.160 about fifty feet and I had to go down an incline. 321 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.880 It says about a forty foot incline. Slow gradual cars, 322 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.680 you know lane two lane road, no cars on the 323 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.759 road at two thirty o'clock, you know, three o'clock in 324 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:21.119 the morning. As soon as I got to the bottom 325 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:24.519 of that plateau, I start walking across and it's about 326 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:26.559 an eighth of a mile flat, and then it goes 327 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.680 up that same kind of grade on the other side. 328 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.039 So I'm walking in the flat part about a quarter 329 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:34.839 of the way into it, and I hear something move 330 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:41.000 to my left and it's definite, you know, heavy, you know. 331 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:43.599 I hear something and I could tell it was there, 332 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.599 and not that far from the road. 333 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:51.200 A little tiny bob wire founds on both sides, and 334 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.839 then I don't hear anything. I keep walking, just keep walking. 335 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:57.559 Pretty soon I hear it on my right side, and 336 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:01.000 there's some trees and summer cabins on that side, so 337 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.480 it had a little more cover or day or hit. 338 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:05.559 I don't know. There might have been more than one, 339 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:07.759 but I think it was the same one just crossing 340 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.799 back over behind me. And it was ahead of me 341 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.079 because I could tell it was ahead of me from 342 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:19.720 where I could hear. There was no other sound anywhere 343 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:23.279 except for this creature moving. So when I got up 344 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.880 to where the highway was, this is Highway two sixty 345 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:29.799 in Lakeside, Arizona. And when I got up to the highway, 346 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.920 I turned left and I could hear it behind this 347 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:36.319 little blue ridge drive in and then behind the post 348 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.279 office on the other side of the road, and it 349 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.200 was like a two lane little road highway. Then it's 350 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:48.119 bigger now, but back then, so I didn't I could 351 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:50.519 never see it between the two buildings because there was light, 352 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:52.480 but it was so fast. But I could hear it 353 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:55.720 on the gravel back there behind it, behind the building, 354 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.359 so I know it's still tracking me. And I lived 355 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:02.200 right in the part of that road, about an eighth 356 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:05.519 of a mile past there. I walked to my house. Behind 357 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:08.920 our restaurant was this huge barn that I lived in 358 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.920 my dad and I remodeled part of the this barn 359 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.799 into a one third of it into an apartment for me. 360 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.799 So I get in there, I flipped a lot, throw 361 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.440 about twenty shells in my twenty two rifle or fifteen shells, 362 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.440 I don't know, and I just tossed on the bed. 363 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:26.240 I said, this isn't going to do anything, and I 364 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:28.000 don't know if I'm going to wake up my dad. 365 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:31.839 He's a Navy guy. He has some big I mean 366 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:35.400 big caliber guns or did I mean gone now unfortunately, 367 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:40.880 but fifty caliber elephant hunting rifle and okay, so yeah, 368 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.240 I'm not going to wake up my navy from dad 369 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:46.559 from at three in the morning. Wasn't going to do it, 370 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:49.960 so I just stayed awake. You know, I'm thinking, do 371 00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:52.000 I call the game service, the game ward, and I 372 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.160 don't know what to do. I'm fifteen years old, you know, so, 373 00:21:55.880 --> 00:21:58.279 and we didn't have cell phones or you know, anything. 374 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:00.559 So I go back out there first in the morning. 375 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:04.400 I didn't get any sleep, maybe none or fifteen minutes. 376 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.440 I don't think I slept at all. And I go 377 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:09.359 back out there. I go back over to those exact 378 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:12.920 trees first, you know. And I walk out there and 379 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.319 I see like a tree that looks like it's been 380 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.039 pushed down. And then I noticed around this big tree, 381 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:21.599 it's bigger around that I can hold in my arms, right, 382 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.640 bigger than a trash candle lit. If you visualize that 383 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:28.759 the base big pine tree. Halfway around the bottom of 384 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:33.039 that tree, all the pine needles are pushed away about 385 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:37.400 six inches deep and about six inches wide about halfway 386 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:45.720 around that tree, just that tree. Later, I kind of 387 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.200 figured out that it might have been them pushing to 388 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.119 try and find the ground when on its way back 389 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:53.400 down to the ground. I don't know, you know, swiping 390 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.039 its foot, you know, I don't know, but I had 391 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:59.240 to come up with some reasonable Exphena said, But I 392 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:03.519 saw trees that have been pushed down right there, and 393 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:07.319 I could see like two like some kind of maybe 394 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:11.240 claw mark, and it was higher up that I could 395 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.319 you know, I could reach it, but not comfortably. And 396 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:17.440 I certainly wouldn't be pushing down a tree that I 397 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:22.599 unless I was eight nine ten feet tall. And these 398 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:28.519 trees weren't dead when they were pushed over, so it 399 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:29.680 takes a lot of force. 400 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:35.680 Yeah, it sounds like right, yeah, yep, Glenn. I have 401 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:39.839