WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:12.599 Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado. 2 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:17.920 Thirty years in Lorraine, fighting for truth, justice and the 3 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:19.600 American Way. 4 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:26.440 Danchplas. Wow, Happy, Happy New Year's Eve. This is Heidi Ganol. 5 00:00:26.559 --> 00:00:30.239 I'm filling in for Dan this afternoon. Wow, it's been 6 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.719 a crazy year. Who knows what we can expect in 7 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:36.600 twenty twenty five. We're gonna have some fun talking about 8 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.399 that today. We're also going to revisit some of the 9 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:42.880 top stories from twenty twenty four. And we've got Congressman 10 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:46.640 Oh gosh, Congresswoman Lauren Bober calling in at four thirty five. 11 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:49.320 Super excited to talk to Lauren, find out what's going 12 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:50.799 on in one of our favorite towns. 13 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:52.159 Do you see you just kidding. 14 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.039 Anyway, I'm sure there's lots of drama she can fill 15 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:58.280 us in on, and also talk to her a little 16 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:01.799 bit about her new district, which is my district. She's 17 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:06.640 my congresswoman, and the difference between representing CD three, kind 18 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:07.680 of how things are shifting. 19 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:09.719 Excited to talk to her more about that. 20 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.239 So one thing I did today was I asked my 21 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.719 Rocky Mountain Voice staff. So we have a news organization 22 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:20.799 Rocky Mountain Voice. We're unabashedly right of center and we 23 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:23.519 don't apologize for that. We want a different perspective than 24 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:26.319 the liberal media that's out there. It's a website, it's 25 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.120 a newsletter. We're constantly updating the news. We have a 26 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:33.040 great team of writers, over thirty citizen journalists across the state. 27 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:34.200 And then our editor. 28 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:37.719 Brian Porter, who actually made the news this year when 29 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.680 I brought him on board to help me launch Rocky 30 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.359 Mountain Voice. He was the president of the Colorado Press 31 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.200 Association and Jesse, you're not going to believe this, but 32 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.519 the Colorido Press Association forced Brian to resign because he 33 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.560 went to work for me leading Rocky Mountain Voice. 34 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.840 That doesn't seem quite right, does it. No, it was terrible. 35 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:59.920 It's like so much for diversity of thought and allow 36 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:04.159 for different opinions. And Brian's a great guy. He always 37 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.200 tries to give a balanced view of the news, and 38 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:10.159 they couldn't take it. They couldn't stand the thought of 39 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.159 a conservative guy or a guy representing a conservative news 40 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:18.879 outlet representing the top of the Colorido Press Association. So whatever, 41 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:22.759 But that story actually made the list of top stories 42 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.199 with Colorado Times Recorder, which is basically a Democrat paid 43 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.439 I call it a fake news outlet. It's just basically 44 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:34.879 around up do hit pieces on conservatives in Colorado. But 45 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:36.960 today it popped up that it was one of the 46 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:39.280 top stories for Colorado Times Recorder. 47 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:41.199 What do you think about that? 48 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.400 I mean, I'd like to say it surprises me, and 49 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:47.280 that the Rocky Mountain what's it gulled again? 50 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.520 Rocky Mountain voice? Oh that's the Colorada Times Recorder. Is 51 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:51.560 the Democrat version. 52 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.280 Yeah, I'd like to say it surprises me, but it does. 53 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.879 Nothing they do didn't surprise me anymore. I know, I agree. 54 00:02:57.960 --> 00:02:58.599 I agree. 55 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:02.039 Maybe twenty twenty five will be they'll wake up and 56 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.439 realize the error of their ways. I doubt it, but 57 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:08.159 let's see what happens. All right, I am going to 58 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:13.280 go to my first caller about what's going on in Colorado, 59 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.159 what happened in twenty twenty four, and what is going 60 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:17.439 to happen in twenty twenty five. 61 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:18.759 Lacy, welcome to the show. 62 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:21.960 Can you hear me, guys? 63 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.120 I can hear you all right? 64 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:24.639 Perfect? 65 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.159 Hi, guys, hought you doing good? 66 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:27.599 Happy New Year, Lacey. 67 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.879 Happy New Year. Yeah, I wanted to talk to you 68 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.800 guys a little bit about Trump winning. This is obviously 69 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.080 one of our biggest stories. He added five hundred thousand 70 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.840 gen z to the electorate and a lot of that 71 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.680 is due to the work of organizations like Turning Point 72 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.560 USA and many other youth organizations. I was curious what 73 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:47.719 you guys thoughts were on that. 74 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.599 Yeah, Lacy, I think that was a big part of it. 75 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.080 And on the ground as I'm out and about meeting 76 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.360 voters across the state, I really saw a lot of 77 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.680 energy with young people, whether it was at Colora Christian 78 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:02.199 University hosting a table there and talking to voters, or 79 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.759 see you Boulder Colora College. All over the state. It 80 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.560 was really neat to see the energy. And I know 81 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.400 you're pretty involved in the youth movement here in Colorado. 82 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:13.840 What needs to happen to get more youth involved in 83 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.439 twenty twenty five, in the elections, in the just the 84 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:18.839 overall political process. 85 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.560 I think, in all honesty, so I'm the co chair 86 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:27.120 of the Young Republicans for Colorado, I think we are 87 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:30.120 really noticing a shift, especially for young men, and that's 88 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.319 felt Rode, not just Colorado, but all fifty states. I 89 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.160 think we need to go to the places where Democrats 90 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:39.959 has been going for for so long. Obviously, these college 91 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:42.199 campuses are starting to be a really big thing for us, 92 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:46.959 but you know, sporting events, getting comfortable with having uncomfortable conversations. 93 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:50.319 I was always told do not have political conversations at 94 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:51.800 the dinner table, and now we need to be having 95 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.639 those conversations at the dinner table. Guys at frat parties 96 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.759 are starting to talk about Trump and all sorts of 97 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.759 fun stuff. But I think making politics fun is really 98 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.480 what Trump did in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty and twenty 99 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.759 twenty four, this whole span of time. And because he's 100 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:11.040 made it so fun for people to get involved, we 101 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:14.839 need to have the old guard of the GOP to 102 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.959 somewhat understand that times are changing. We need to update technology, 103 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.920 we need to really engage with this new gen z 104 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.600 vote and their podcast or whatever it may be. It's 105 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.399 time to turn over a new leaf, follow in in 106 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:33.079 line with Trump, really update what we're doing. That way, 107 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.800 more people will come over to our side, because conservatism 108 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:38.160 really is cool again. It's borrow phrase. 109 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:39.519 I love that. 110 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:41.199 I love that, and I say that all the time, 111 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:43.560 like we've got to make it fun to be conservative 112 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:47.399 again in Colorado and having events showing up places we 113 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:51.439 don't typically go or talk about politics is perfect and 114 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:53.920 so Lacy. It sounds like one of your favorite stories 115 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.319 of twenty twenty four was the gen Z involvement in 116 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.000 electing Donald Trump. What what's your prediction for twenty twenty five. 117 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.759 We've got a lot of important school board races, We've 118 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.800 got a GOP chair election. Like what's going to happen 119 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:09.319 with politics in Colorado in twenty twenty five around the 120 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:10.040 youth vote? 121 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.279 Oh, I think in Colorado a lot of good things 122 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:17.560 are happening. Colorado Federation of Young Republicans we have thirteen 123 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.279 individual chapters and we're looking to be around fifteen here 124 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.000 in the next few months. But we're going to be 125 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.319 pointing heavily at these school board races and obviously working 126 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.000 with organizations like Road to Red, which you've been helping 127 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:33.399 us with, Heidi, so we can try and get in 128 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:35.879 some of those school board races because it's important where 129 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:38.480 kids are learning. We're young enough this gen Z vote, 130 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.879 we're young enough to remember, especially some of the older 131 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.680 ones like myself from twenty seven, what it was like 132 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:48.199 to actually play in the yard not be a iPad kid, 133 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.480 not being told boys can be girls and girls can 134 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:54.439 be boys. We need to start taking a more intense 135 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.360 look at education, but having people that are slightly older 136 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:02.560 but young enough to remember gens obviously and how a 137 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.319 US fight. I think El Paso County's Young Republicans has 138 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:07.560 done a bang up job of getting involved in school 139 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:08.600 board stuff, and we're going to. 140 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:09.480 Continue to do that. 141 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:11.439 I think you're going to see some big changes with 142 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.480 school board shakeups because parents are tired, but also, you know, 143 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.680 the siblings my age, we're kind of sick and tired 144 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.879 of you know, our cousins, our younger siblings being taught 145 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:22.920 anything but the truth. It's frustrating and we're going to 146 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:23.759 fight to take it back. 147 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.720 That's great, Lacy, thank you so much for all you're doing. 148 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.120 We really appreciate it and would love to stay in 149 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.800 touch and keep hearing about all the great stuff gen 150 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.199 Z's doing in Colorado to turn our state around. 151 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:36.639 Of course, thank you so much. 152 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.759 Heidi, Happy New year, through your year. 153 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:39.800 Thank you. 154 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.839 Got a few hours left. So right before I talked 155 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.279 to Lacey, I was I was mentioning. I asked the 156 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.959 Rocky Mountain Voice staff what their top stories of the 157 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:52.199 year were that were covered on Rocky Mountain Voice, and 158 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.040 they gave me a few a few ideas. One of 159 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.000 them was what happened with Jenna Griswold and the whole 160 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:02.000 debacle around the bios League past and the Libertyitarian Party 161 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:06.560 actually suing Jenna Griswold's office for the leak and the 162 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.480 cover up. And I thought that was really brave and 163 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:12.759 bold what they did. I was very, very excited about 164 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:15.959 them standing up for what's right. So way to go, 165 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.279 Libertarian Party. You're going to be a force in twenty 166 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:18.879 twenty five. 167 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:19.360 I know it. 168 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:22.399 Follow Brandon on Free State Colorado. He's got a great 169 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:27.759 show that he puts out on x and YouTube. Another story. 170 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.759 We heard all kinds of things about wolves all year. 171 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.240 If there ever was evidence needed for the rural urban 172 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.679 divide in Colorado, look no further than the release of 173 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:38.200 the wolves. 174 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:39.279 That was a hot topic. 175 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.639 And you know, I think livestock raisers are standing up, 176 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.000 they're speaking out, rural communities are speaking out. I think 177 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:51.000 as the calendar turns to twenty twenty five, there's going 178 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.320 to be a possibility of all of them banding together 179 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:57.080 and really pushing back against this. Another thing, of course, 180 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:02.279 was the Aurora Gang's situation, and Aurora really made the 181 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.879 national scene. You heard Donald Trump talk about it at 182 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:08.559 the rally he had here in Aurora. And the gang 183 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.759 that you never heard of, that Kyle Clark never heard 184 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.840 of in Jared Police thought was in Danielle's imagination. Danielle 185 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:17.759 Jurinsky's imagination. She's on the Aurora City Council. That made 186 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:20.879 national news in twenty four it was the Venezuelan gang trend. 187 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.639 De Aragua I hope, I said that right. They brought 188 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:25.799 a lot of attention to the issues coming from the 189 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.600 border and the problems with an open border and how 190 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:32.799 they don't necessarily just affect border states. Colorado became a 191 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:35.879 border state this year. So it's going to be really 192 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:38.759 interesting to see what happens when President Donald Trump starts 193 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:44.480 tamping down on the illegal and violent immigrants and pushing 194 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:46.840 them out of the country back to where they came from. 195 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.240 What is Jared Polis going to do. What is Mike Johnston, 196 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.639 the mayor of Denver, going to do. They've said they 197 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:55.279 will stand strong for those folks. Are they willing to 198 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.279 go to jail to do so? That'll be really interesting 199 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.679 to see. Before we go to break, one more story, 200 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.480 I'll talk about Tina Peters trial. All eyes this year 201 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:06.600 turned to Mesa County in twenty four as the trial 202 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:10.000 for the former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters took place. 203 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.799 She was found guilty on three counts of attempting to 204 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:16.919 influence a public servant, conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation, and 205 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.840 officials contact. And the ironic thing is that Jenna Griswold 206 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:26.120 with her bios leaks password. Actually, I mean, shouldn't she 207 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:28.399 go to jail if Tina Peters did too, I don't 208 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:30.559 know something to think about. Or Tina Peters should have 209 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.399 a relook at her situation because it seems awfully extreme 210 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:38.080 that she was given a nine year sentence and Jenna 211 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.320 Griswold was given a slap on the hand. 212 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:43.000 That does not seem fair at all. So let's go 213 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:43.480 to a break. 214 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:45.919 When we come back, we'll talk more about twenty twenty four, 215 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.679 what happened, the crazy stuff that happened this year, and 216 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.320 what's happening are going to happen in twenty twenty five. 217 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:55.120 This is Heidiganall filling in for Dan cap Well. Hello Colorado, 218 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:58.480 it's Hidi Ganall filling in for Dan Kaplis this afternoon 219 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:02.240 on a cheery New Year's Eve. I hope you have 220 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.480 big plans tonight. You can have a lot of fun. 221 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.120 It's going to be a fun year. I can feel it. 222 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:11.360 Things shifted in the last election for those of us 223 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.440 that it turned out the way we wanted it to. 224 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.919 President Donald Trump is going to fire things up across 225 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:21.919 America along with Doge. We've got Elon and Vivek working 226 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:25.559 on that in RFK Junior ready to take on big 227 00:11:25.600 --> 00:11:28.799 Pharma and big Egg. And we've got Tulsi ready to 228 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.840 take on the security apparatus of our government. 229 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:33.720 It's going to be so fun to watch. 230 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.120 We got another firecracker here in Colorado, a friend of mine, 231 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:41.840 Richard Holtorf. I believe Richard's on the line, Jesse Is 232 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:45.279 I am hello, Hello Richard? How are you today? 233 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:49.159 I'm wonderful house my good friend, Heidi. 234 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:50.759 I'm good, I'm good. 235 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.000 I'm ready for a new year, clean slate. Richard, what 236 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.159 the heck's going to happen in twenty twenty five? You're 237 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.960 down at that crazy capital and getting ready for a 238 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:59.559 new session. 239 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:00.480 What's your prediction? 240 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.440 Well, You need to remember that I ran for Congress 241 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:10.799 and was unsuccessful. So my last day is today as 242 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:15.159 a state legislator. I am going to be turning the 243 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.960 reins over to another representative. But I will tell you 244 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:23.559 that the predictions for twenty twenty five. We are in 245 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.399 a very unique and exciting time and I am pumped 246 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:32.240 up about the future because, let's be honest, the East 247 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:36.480 coast and the left coast elitist failed to recognize that 248 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:42.120 woke is dead and Middle America is done with Wolke goodness, 249 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:46.399 we are done Colorado, most of Colorado is done, but 250 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.840 we are pretty far left. We are a blue state 251 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.639 and that is you know, sick to your stomach blue. 252 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.080 And Colorado needs to realize that a Middle America is 253 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.799 done and Colorado needs to follow Middle America on the 254 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:03.600 truck train one hundred percent. 255 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.679 Well, Richard, now that you're free as of tomorrow or 256 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:08.919 what time like midnight tonight with the new year, you 257 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.799 can speak freely and not be held as a representative 258 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.759 like you can just have a little more leeway. 259 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:19.440 Well, let's be honest, Tidy, I've always spoken very freely 260 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:24.080 and taken a lot. This is true of leeway and 261 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.480 I'm not going to not say what needs to be 262 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.759 said when it needs to be said to whom it 263 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.519 needs to be said to. And that's with any party 264 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.919 or any person in politics. I'm really excited about to change. 265 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:40.120 But here's what I predict, and Colorado with the tip 266 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.679 of the spear for the progressive left Democrats. So let's 267 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:45.240 be honest, they're trying to cook this sauce up right 268 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:50.120 now in Boulder County. Up in Boulder, Colorado, the progressive 269 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.720 left is going to claim to their agenda. They're not 270 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:58.279 letting go. Let's be honest. I really believe that they 271 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.360 are going to try to in twenty twenty five and beyond, 272 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:04.799 they're going to try to repackage and reimagine their leftist 273 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:09.559 agenda and see what they can say. And so we 274 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:11.279 need to realize. 275 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:14.200 That, Richard, don't you think that Polis more than ever now, 276 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:16.399 if he wants to run for president, has to keep 277 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.840 Colorado as blue as possible. So it's the shining example 278 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:22.840 for all the progressive policies for the rest of America 279 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:24.919 that he's the guy to take it to the rest 280 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:25.519 of the country. 281 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:30.120 Do you agree, Oh, I would think that part of 282 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:34.399 the political strategies. Would definitely be trying to put that 283 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:37.240 in the in the in the special sauce if you will, 284 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:40.720 that the Democrat progressive left Democrats are playing. You know 285 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:43.919 that politics is so tenuous. We don't know if Polis 286 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.759 is going to have a chance. Last year, Jill Biden 287 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.440 came to Colorado and everybody to see the governor and 288 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.960 to talk about Colorado issues, allegedly, and I said, I 289 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.279 said fully on that that's not why Diamond is here. 290 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:00.799 I mean, not Jill Diamond, exc'us me Biden is here. 291 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.039 She's here to talk to Poulis about what's going to 292 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.600 happen with the presidency and how it's not his time yet. 293 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:12.399 I called that out six or eight months ago, and 294 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:17.039 so that's what happened. Nobody talks about. Everybody was fool 295 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:20.240 thinking they're talking about education, in which they weren't, and 296 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.120 Paulus is just waiting for his time. But he's got 297 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.039 this kid in California, the California kid that really wants 298 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.799 to be president. So there's a tug of war between 299 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:33.000 two arguably of the most progressive left states in the Union, 300 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.360 Colorado and California. So we don't know how that's going 301 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.600 to shake out. But I think Polis is very patient. 302 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:42.279 He might try to play his play this next cycle, 303 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.720 or he might wait for a subsequent cycle. He's got 304 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:47.159 plenty of time. If you think about how old Biden was, 305 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:49.240 the old man in the mountain that couldn't find his 306 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:49.720 way home. 307 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.799 Yeah, I think it's going to be our job as 308 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.120 Conservatives with a platform to call out Polis constantly. And 309 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.559 I've been trying to do it the last couple of 310 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:58.960 years since I ran against him. 311 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:02.159 I learned a too much about his wily ways and 312 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:03.840 his lies. 313 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.519 And I want to keep that hot, like, keep talking 314 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:08.559 about it so that Dana Perino and the rest of 315 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.519 Fox News doesn't think he's the you know, the best 316 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.879 thing since slice bread to the Democrat Party to bring 317 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.799 on and counteract the Republican kind of narrative. And it's 318 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:20.639 so frustrating that everybody thinks he's such a libertarian when 319 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:24.559 he's the exact opposite. And we've got more bureaucracy, more taxes, 320 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.679 more just control by the government in Colorado than we've 321 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:29.639 ever had before. 322 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:31.000 It's just insane. 323 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.759 It's it's suffocating, and one of the things I'd love 324 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.360 to see in twenty twenty five is just everybody calling 325 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.440 out the Democrats in Colorado for their bs and their 326 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:44.720 narrative that they're libertarian, their moderate. They're not. They're totally progressive, 327 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.600 and the things they're going to do in the legislature 328 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.279 in the next couple months are going to just I 329 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.559 don't know, it's going to be disgusting. 330 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.759 Let's talk about that a little bit. But let's realize 331 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.039 that polis is a is a great shape shifter. He 332 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:04.559 can change, he can more, he is a master at that, 333 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.160 and he can also tell really good lies and make 334 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.279 him believable. So we're gonna have to deal with that. 335 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:14.680 That's not going away. Let's talk about Colorado now that 336 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:17.559 you've brought it up, because this is really important. You know, 337 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:21.240 we realized some political gains. We've got a few seats 338 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:22.960 in the House, a few more seats in the House. 339 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.640 We're up to twenty two, I believe now, but we 340 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:27.000 had twenty four when I started in twenty twenty. So 341 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.920 we still are in a minority position. And the Senate's 342 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.400 gained a seat or two, but they're still in a 343 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.039 minority position. Crads control if they still have the super 344 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.359 excuse me, the trifecta of power. Rather, they don't have 345 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.079 a super majority anymore. But here's what's going to help 346 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.319 the Democrats. And now we're gonna get into a little 347 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:49.839 bit of a chess here, political chess. Colorado right now 348 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:54.400 has a significant budget shortfall. They're talking about over a 349 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:59.680 billion dollars or up to a billion dollars or more. Now, 350 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.519 we raised the state budget from twenty six billion to 351 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:07.279 forty one billion in the half a decade I was 352 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:12.160 at the state House. The governor expanded government. He increased 353 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:16.599 FTE and you know that's full time employees, and grew 354 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:20.480 state government. We all the time said, hey, Colorado, fiscal 355 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:24.599 conservatives like me said, hey, what happens when the economy turns? 356 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:28.039 What happens when all this money isn't there anymore? 357 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.880 Richard, we got to wrap up last few seconds. Ready, Yes, 358 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:33.319 it goes fast, doesn't it. 359 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:35.920 Well, I'll tell you what. Well, I will tell you 360 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.359 it's going to help the Democrats look better because they're 361 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:39.559 not going to be due able to do all the 362 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:41.799 crazy stuff they want to do, because they're going to 363 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.480 be fiscally constrained by the budget. And we need to 364 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:46.240 point that out and highlight that my friend. 365 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:49.799 Well, thanks Richard, thanks for weighing in. Follow Richard on Twitter. 366 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:51.200 I'm sure he has a lot more to say. This 367 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.519 is Hidi Ganal filling in Dan Caplis. We'll see you 368 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:53.960 in a minute. 369 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:55.799 Well, Happy Happy New Year, Colorado. 370 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.079 It's Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis this afternoon. 371 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.680 We're wrapping up twenty twenty four and we've got a 372 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:05.480 fun twenty twenty five ahead. I feel really good about 373 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:07.640 the next year. I think it's going to do a 374 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:12.000 lot of amazing things for our economy and the border, 375 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:15.759 our safety, all kinds of good stuff. With President Donald 376 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.400 Trump in office, even here in Colorado, I think we'll 377 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:21.720 benefit from some of those decisions he's going to make. 378 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.000 And one of the movers and shakers, one of the 379 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:26.759 people in Washington, DC that's always making a difference, is 380 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.559 our own Congresswoman Lauren Bobert. 381 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.359 Lauren, Welcome to the show, Heidi. 382 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.480 It is so great to be on with you. I'm 383 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:35.079 glad you're filling in for Dan today. 384 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.240 Thank you and Happy New Year. 385 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:39.359 Happy New Year. 386 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.119 Are you in DC or are you here in Colorado? 387 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:46.119 I am enjoying as much of Colorado as I can 388 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:52.119 We have an extremely busy legislative schedule this year for 389 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:56.319 twenty twenty five, and I will be in DC a lot, 390 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.319 So we have a ton of weeks before we're there, 391 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.880 three four five weeks at a time, and so every 392 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:04.920 moment that I could be in Colorado, I'm going to 393 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:05.839 take advantage of that. 394 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:10.720 Well, I hope so, because man, DC, it's quite intense, 395 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:13.519 and you do a great job, Lauren. You fight for us, 396 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.119 You try and stick up for all the things we 397 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:21.680 want around policy and for Colorado, our water rights, our farmers, 398 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:26.200 our ranchers. Tell us what's different now about representing CD four, 399 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.160 if anything is different versus CD three, And what are 400 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:31.400 your key issues you're going to focus on while you're 401 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:32.079