1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets here we 2 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,719 are live. I got both audiences here. Wonderful to see you, hey, Steve, 3 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:30,600 so you know the drill, here live for you, here 4 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,399 for your pets. Any questions you want to ask now 5 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:34,439 is it time to ask? And there are some things 6 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:36,039 that we had left over from last week I want 7 00:00:36,039 --> 00:00:38,159 to tell you about. I had a great conversation with 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,159 my good friend doctor Rick Lacuter, who is one of 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,640 the top board certified dinnery neurologists in the country. So anyway, 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,079 we will definitely definitely go for that. So get a 11 00:00:49,119 --> 00:00:51,640 hold of me first if you're here live, and I 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,759 already see I'm waving to a lot of you, so 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,520 you can ask away here on pet Life Radio. You 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 can type in a question, or you can call eight 15 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,079 seven seven three eight five. I'm eight eight a two 16 00:01:01,119 --> 00:01:03,719 once again eight seven seven three eight five eight eight 17 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:05,959 eight two. We'd love to have you join us. And 18 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:09,840 I'm sat in probably a little or I forgot last week. 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,799 Maybe I was a little horse too, huh. Anyway, now 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,959 voice is better, but my chest I don't know about that. 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,799 So usually I rarely get sick. When I get sick, 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,239 it's literally for two days. I get that the cold 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,879 two days later, I'm fine. This time it went I 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,319 was fine, but now it's in the chest. I'm still 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,560 coughing and I feel friady. I did a chatchipt and 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,120 I have a gal I converse with right and I said, look, 27 00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:35,680 I want to know what would be a really good antibotic. 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,079 Then she wouldn't give me an answer. She goes, many 29 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:41,840 of these infections are viruses, and she's right, in which 30 00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:44,280 case antibotics is not going to help, and it can 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,319 even hurt. Is it helps build up resistance of user. 32 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:48,439 You don't need it. I mean, I just wanted to 33 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,599 give me in one or two ANTALYXS said, I have 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,680 access to all medications. I'm veterinarian. Tell me it's the 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,000 toxic attacking. Is a moxistm is the clapboun Just tell 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,719 me what it is. You refuse to give me an answer. 37 00:01:58,879 --> 00:02:01,680 So then I did my own research. I went online 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,200 and I put in the question, you know what is 39 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:06,599 a good antibotic? And it gave me the answer, But 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,560 it says the same thing. Most of these infections are viral. 41 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,840 Antibotics are not going to help. It's like, boy, you 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,800 can't give me a break. And you know me, I'm 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,680 not gonna doctors. Hate going to the doctor. I'm not 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,680 going to go to a doctor. So I'll give it 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,479 a few more days. I feel fine. Everything about it 46 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,479 is good, but I'm just you know, I get this 47 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:25,719 cough and it sounds like I'm dying like a smoker. 48 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:27,479 And I have never smoked a cigarette day in my life. 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,000 As far as other things, well not in a long time. Anyway, 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,479 now we're talking back in college days. I don't want to. 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,080 I don't want to go there. So anyway, let's see 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,280 some questions. You know, I was just saying, how preseason started. 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,120 I have season tickets to the Rams, but I can 54 00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:47,000 never go to the Saturday games. So the guy that's 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,439 sitting next to me reached out to me. I said, 56 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:50,479 I'm just gonna give my tickets unless say, if any 57 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,919 of you what preseason Rams tickets, kid, let me know 58 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:57,400 I got them, all right, So now I'm waiting. All right, 59 00:02:57,439 --> 00:02:59,800 so let me let me we'll take over. We have 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,319 a a number of you here. So the question came 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,759 up last week about do dogs have like these psychological 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,319 issues like schizophrenia and bipolar And my answer was that 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,199 you can't tell, you really can't tell because much of 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,599 that And so I asked this question to doctor Rick 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Rick Lacuter. He's such a great guy. I mean, here's 66 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:25,240 a guy that I met him over forty five years 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,479 ago in VET school and he was doing his residency. 68 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:33,199 He became bored certified. He's super super guy and he 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,000 was a professor. I've been in touch with him and 70 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:39,599 friends with him ever since, and he now writes kids books. 71 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,680 He still does. He's emeritus at UC Davis. What a guy. 72 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:45,000 So and he started laughing, and I asked him the 73 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,520 question because he had just written a piece on what 74 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,039 we call a narrative medicine, and this is a lost 75 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:54,840 art because I am of the philosophy and always have 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,800 been that part of being a good doctor is listening 77 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,879 and listening to what many things, of course, but history, 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,199 and that's called narrative medicine. You have to discuss with 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,120 the patient what's going on. You can't just go to 80 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:12,560 the tests. You don't even know which test to take 81 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:15,680 really until you get a better history. And that's one 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,319 of the things I find different in Verne medicine right 83 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,879 now with the young doctors who are so quick to 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,959 running tests, and we'll say, wait a second, what are 85 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:26,720 you testing for that for? Is the dog doing X 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,480 Y Z? Well, I don't know, but he's coughing, well, 87 00:04:30,079 --> 00:04:32,839 so what There could be a lot of things. So 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,160 you're not going to start testing for these weird esoteric 89 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,360 diseases until you get a good history and then a 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,639 good physical and then you rule out all many as 91 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:43,759 things as you can and you test for what's left. 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,839 So and he was saying, so, with these psychological diseases 93 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,319 that we have, much of those diagnoses are made through 94 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:55,680 narrative medicine, through talking to the patient. Well, we can't 95 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,959 do that, so we always joke, you know. And I 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,399 always say to a client when they start telling about 97 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:03,800 the dog having a psychological issue a behavioral issue, and 98 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,040 I always say, I'm joking. I told Sir Rick and 99 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:08,560 he started laughing, and that is that. You know, one 100 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,800 thing I can't do. It's sort a person I'd sit 101 00:05:10,879 --> 00:05:13,120 him down on the couch and have, you know, maybe 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,759 a little warm chat, and then we could talk and say, 103 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:17,680 you know, tell me what's going on, how long has 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,959 this been going on? How do you feel just something 105 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:23,839 predisposed at or is there a preceding behavior that you 106 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:26,560 feel what is it, and you talk about it, and 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,839 that's how you make a diagnosis. We can't do that 108 00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:32,759 with dogs. So anyway, that is a real issue. So 109 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,439 the answer is, as he said, might have some psychological absolutely, 110 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:41,399 but how do we know, how do we diagnose? Almost impossible. 111 00:05:41,439 --> 00:05:44,319 There's no testing yet for it. Now. One thing that 112 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:47,839 I've seen as far as being bipolar, I've had a 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,560 few cases over the years, and I'm dealing with one 114 00:05:49,639 --> 00:05:53,199 right now. A little dog was adopted from a shelter, 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,439 and for years the dog was great, was great with 116 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,720 the family, of course, maybe a little cautious with with strangers, 117 00:06:00,879 --> 00:06:04,160 but was fantastic with a family. Now, the dog, as 118 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,920 it's getting older, is so nasty. The owner can't even 119 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,319 pick the dog up. When the dog gets in bed 120 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:13,759 and the husband gets a bit and just in sleep 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,000 rolls over, the dog will attack him. I mean, this 122 00:06:17,319 --> 00:06:19,240 is weird. I mean, first of all, I don't know 123 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,360 I handle it. I would drug this dog up and 124 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,920 put them in a separate room. I mean they have 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,079 to tiptoe, literally tiptoe around this dog for fear of 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,759 being bitten. But the dog was never like this, so 127 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:33,519 now this would be a great one for narrative medicine 128 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,319 to sit down and say what happened, When did it happen, 129 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:39,319 how did it happen? We're stuck, can't do it so 130 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:42,120 anyway and answer your to a question that's the issue. 131 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:45,639 All right? Can you talk about conditioning dogs where their 132 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:49,000 eyelids are flipped outward? Kind of course they're recently conditioned. 133 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,759 The sisters is always effective. Okay, So there are two 134 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,560 types of eye lid condition Well, there's more. First of all, 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,759 distichaisis trickisis where there are a barren lashes, multiple lashes 136 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,720 going out of one last follicle, and those can sometimes 137 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,079 irritate if they're directed at the eyeball instead of outward, 138 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,360 they will cause a problem. But as far as growth, 139 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:13,120 there is n tropyon, which is much much more common, 140 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,879 and then ec tropyon. Entropyon is where the eyelids are 141 00:07:16,959 --> 00:07:20,560 rolling inward, so the hair from the lower lid or 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,240 the lashes are rubbing on the eyeball, causing a lot 143 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,519 of discomfort, a lot of tearing, red eyes, et cetera. 144 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,680 Then there's ec tropyon where there's such a widened fornix 145 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,480 there's little protection so a lot of dirt and debris 146 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,600 and stuff get extend into the actual eyeball in the 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,959 fornix in the pocket there, and that causes problems. So 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,319 is entropyon way more common yes? Is it easier to fix? Yes? 149 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,199 But there are techniques to repair x tropyon. I do them, 150 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,360 fortunately enough to do them a lot because we don't 151 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,360 see it that much. But basically the goal is you're 152 00:07:56,399 --> 00:07:59,160 going to make a it's usually a lower lid, so 153 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:02,759 you take a cut along the lower lid and then 154 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:06,399 you cut a second cut that you wedge it almost 155 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:09,759 like a V, not mimicking the same arc. When you 156 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 want an entropyon, you want to pull that rid out, 157 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,120 so you make like a smile incision and when you 158 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:17,680 sew it together you can see what happening. It's pulling 159 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,319 the lid down. When it's xtropion, you want to give 160 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,319 it more tissue, so you make a typeric V. So 161 00:08:25,399 --> 00:08:29,920 you go basically a V to a Y. So you're 162 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:32,840 gonna take it make a much deeper. You're gonna sew 163 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,279 the bottom of first. That's the way it's going to 164 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,200 become the base of the wide, and then you sew 165 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,440 the rest of it up so you basically you're adding 166 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:46,279 tissue and it's taking some pressure away tension excuse me, 167 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:49,679 away from that lower lid, and it's adding it to 168 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:52,679 the lid, and that way the lid will start rolling 169 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:55,720 up a little bit more. Normally there's no surgery that's 170 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:58,840 always effective, but it is a surgical procedure for it. 171 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,320 And if you want to refer them my way, I've 172 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,279 done them and they've done just fine. Okay, so the 173 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,840 young lad's gonno diagnose. They run every testing. Yes, it 174 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:13,039 is Sharon, That is very true. It is a tremendous 175 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,559 frustration for me as an old geezer that I see 176 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:20,320 records all the time from we just say nice the 177 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:23,759 elsewhere animal hospital, and I'm thinking to myself, what were 178 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:28,679 they thinking? So it is really trust me as frustrating 179 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,320 it is for you guys as pet parents. I am 180 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:34,679 frustrated as a veterinarian who is seeing what's coming out 181 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,360 of school and it is disheartening for me, and I 182 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,600 wish I had an easy answer. I do lecture about it. 183 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,960 I plan to continue to lecture about it because it's 184 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,960 sad and you know who really is hurt the most 185 00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:49,799 by it? And I'll tell you. We're getting into philosophy here, 186 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,399 and I hate to be in the soapbox. Maybe not 187 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,200 really hate it, but anyway, and that is that because 188 00:09:56,399 --> 00:09:59,759 of this, what's happening to the Venoma bills, they are skyrocketing. 189 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,320 So and then what else is causing these bills to skyrocket? 190 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,840 Corporate America. So what's happening is these big companies like 191 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Mars are buying these hospitals under the VCA title. And 192 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:13,559 right away, what do you want to do? They're business. 193 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,480 They're the sixth largest privately held company in the world. 194 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,799 So do they care really about that little dog? No, no, no, no, 195 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,600 But they care about making money, so they have you know, 196 00:10:24,639 --> 00:10:28,360 they have their investors, whatever it is. So they basically 197 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,240 are the prices have gone up literally skyrot skyrocket is 198 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,440 as expense as some of these corporate health hospitals were. 199 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,360 They're double right now and people are complaining all the time. 200 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:42,240 So what's happening is they don't know that they have options. 201 00:10:42,519 --> 00:10:44,320 They just don't bring the dog to the dead. So 202 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,960 the animals suffer. Because the animal suffer is the pet 203 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,840 parents are suffering. You're suffering. The animals aren't getting care 204 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,279 now because less business is coming into the hospital, all right, 205 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,759 what do they do? They raise their prices even more. 206 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,679 So it's hitting that point now we're seeing basically a 207 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,919 much larger percent of animals going without care and it's 208 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,159 all because of that, and it's a domino effect. So 209 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,440 it's ridiculous. You know that only a few ways to 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,799 increase revenue as from a business perspective. One you can 211 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,320 increase services. And that means for these young doctors stop 212 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:24,600 referring that systotomy, that bladder surgery, or that intestinal surgery 213 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,080 to the specialist. That specialists can do those blindfolded. They 214 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,360 didn't want surgeries like that, but they're getting them because 215 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,399 the young doctors aren't doing them. So increase your services, 216 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,759 start learning how to do these. Go to CE right. 217 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,039 Or you can increase your visits, client visits. How do 218 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,759 you do that? Well, one way you're going to do 219 00:11:44,759 --> 00:11:47,879 it is to lower prices, make it more convenient for them. 220 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,440 But third way is to raise your prices. And that 221 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,480 is okay for a while, but it's going to bite 222 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:57,440 in the behind and it's happening now. So I am 223 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:01,080 with the number of statistics out they're showing that the 224 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,960 animal visits are dropping despite the fact that they're more veterinarians, 225 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,799 because they're more VET schools. I graduated VET school. They 226 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:09,720 are twenty four vets schools the country now the thirty 227 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,279 nine more and more graduates. And yet this is shortage 228 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,200 because veterinarians aren't working full time anymore. I mean when 229 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,879 you say, somebody, what's full time? What's full time? Right? 230 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,600 Forty hours a week. Veterinarians work fifty sixty hours a week, 231 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,919 but forty hours a week full time? You know, full 232 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,240 time is now in the dat night world. Yeah, it's 233 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,360 three to four days, thirty hours. That's full time. Well, 234 00:12:32,519 --> 00:12:36,120 how you gonna make that work? And and the veterinarians 235 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,720 want to make of course, they want to keep up 236 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,080 with the Joneses. It's really destroying the profession. I know, 237 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,679 I'm getting very excited about it in a negative way. 238 00:12:43,879 --> 00:12:46,519 Sorry about that, but it is what it is, all right? 239 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:48,440 Can all dogs take some peric I just gave it 240 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 to my English bulldog that you threw up watch idea? Okay? Well, 241 00:12:51,159 --> 00:12:55,000 you know, any medication can cause vomiting anytime. If you 242 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:57,080 gave it with food, maybe try it without food. If 243 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,120 you gave it without food, try it with food. It's 244 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,480 not like they're certain antibiotics for example, for dogs that 245 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,600 I can say, I'm no longer surprised if they vomit. 246 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,320 And because I hear a lot about it symperica. The 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,879 only thing with the symperica, which is the ISOs azelenes 248 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,600 that we hear about, is the potential. The potential, not 249 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,799 the cause to initiate a seizure. But in dogs that 250 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,720 have already have history of seizures, the evidence isn't there 251 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:29,919 indicating that it will cause out of the blue a seizure. 252 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:32,720 But even if it does, even if they the dog 253 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,240 gives the dog a seizure. But the experts are saying, 254 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,759 is try a different isoxazolene. So it's not like all 255 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:40,399 of them do it. One of them may do it. 256 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Try one or the other. You got four of them, 257 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:45,080 you got four choices. You got Brebecto, you got Simperica, 258 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,440 you have Cordelio, and you have next Guard. And what 259 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:51,320 I would do is try one of those. I would 260 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,639 try I try the Symperica again, and as I said, 261 00:13:54,879 --> 00:13:57,039 just swap it up a little bit, maybe give half 262 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,600 and then everything keeps everything down. Have hour later give 263 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:02,440 the other half or an hour later give the other half. 264 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,120 That's something good, Joe. If that doesn't work, then it's 265 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,759 time to go from and again I love Simperica. Then 266 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:09,919 I would go to one of the other's Next Guard, 267 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,039 Cordelio or Provecto. The only thing. Look, Provecto is again 268 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,200 very good, but they claim twelve weeks, but on ticks 269 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,799 they claim eight weeks. So my only thing that I'm 270 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,399 concerned about is people are getting it because you're paying Basically, 271 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 it's almost three times them out because you're getting three 272 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,200 times a mileage out of it. So but then if 273 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,559 it only works for for eight weeks, then you just 274 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,600 paid for three months, but you only gotten two months. 275 00:14:33,679 --> 00:14:36,200 I don't know. It's such a good deal, so check 276 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,399 it out see if it works for you. But as 277 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,720 far as the product is concerned, it's fine. So yes, 278 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:45,519 Lulu's next you know, I didn't even know. Again, we 279 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,759 have next Guard only because the owners of the practice, 280 00:14:47,759 --> 00:14:51,440 remember I joined an existing practice, they like Next Guard. 281 00:14:51,559 --> 00:14:54,200 I have since heard the next Guard is one of 282 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,799 the Now I'm not going to say best, but it's 283 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:02,919 one of the highest marketed and purchased product. So obviously 284 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,879 a lot of veterinarians like myself do like it. But 285 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,559 if you told me that you're on crdelio and it's working, 286 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,919 I would I did not, I would not change. In fact, 287 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,159 I tell people all the time when they come in. 288 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,480 I have my own product line and I carry this 289 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,720 a lot of the stuff from my hospital. For example, 290 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,519 I'm a ear cleaner. My ear cleaner is great called 291 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,919 here you now. But if someone says they're on an 292 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:25,159 ear cleaner and there are a lot of good brands 293 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:27,159 out there, should they get mine? I said no, no, no, 294 00:15:27,159 --> 00:15:28,960 wait no, wait till you're done with yours, and if 295 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,480 you want to get it, then we can try mine. 296 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:33,039 And I'm that way with my body boost small devitamin, 297 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,559 with my flex which is a glucosamine, Kodroy and MSM supplement, 298 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:40,879 with obviously my shampoos. There are a lot of good 299 00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:44,200 ones out there, so I don't switch just because it's mine. 300 00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:47,799 Mine's not better. I couldn't say that it's good, but 301 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,799 I will never make the claim that it is the best. 302 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,600 All right, anyway, don't go away. We have another wave here, 303 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,720 another joiner. We're gonna go for a break here at 304 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,440 pet Life Radio. I will stay on here with you. 305 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,399 On Instagram do me a favor though, come up with question 306 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:04,120 because I can't tell you how everybody benefits from these questions. 307 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,639 Trust me, I know. So we'll be back after these 308 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:11,039 short words from our sponsors here on Petlife Radio. 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Is this pet losing weight? 329 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:40,279 Is it pet gaming weight? Is it urinary pH high 330 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,079 or low? Pretty soon they're going to be able to 331 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,599 check for a white cell count. They're working on it now. 332 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:46,359 So if you have a high white cell count in 333 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,000 the urine BAH, that means it inflammation or infection. So 334 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,920 it tells you in advance. These are things that you 335 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:55,440 and otherwise, by the way, you might not have any idea, 336 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:58,119 especially if they're using a litter box. It'll also be 337 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,839 able to tell you if the litter box frequency is increased. 338 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,319 So these are all things that can help a pet 339 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,079 parent better understand and better evaluate their pets health. All right, 340 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,440 so let's see what we got. I set up a 341 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,279 bird feeder for my indoor cat to do some bird watching. 342 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:17,119 She watches all day, interprets in charges. See seems love it, 343 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,680 but it also frustrated for her. No, no, you know, 344 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,799 it's interesting. There is a This was years ago. It 345 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,079 was a video and it was I had a really 346 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:30,279 cute name and it crossed my mind. I'll have to 347 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:33,079 think about it. But oh video catnip, that's what it 348 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,720 was video catnip. So what it was. You put it 349 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,440 in your phone in your player. Now we don't have 350 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:41,640 that anymore, but you probably can download it or probably 351 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,079 get off the internet. It wouldn't surprise me. And it's 352 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,599 just a picture of birds flying around the house feeders 353 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,240 watching hummingbirds. It was. And you see cats going up 354 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,680 to the TV screen and tapping it. You see fish 355 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,200 and a beautiful fish in a fish tank, all these 356 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,480 things that cats seem to like. So I have a 357 00:19:01,599 --> 00:19:04,640 hammock that connects to a window and we have a 358 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,279 nice big kitchen window and we put a hammock in 359 00:19:07,319 --> 00:19:10,640 there for the cat just outside the bird feeders. And 360 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,880 they're watching the birds, and they're watching the birds, and 361 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,279 they're watching the squirrels who figured out a way to 362 00:19:15,319 --> 00:19:18,599 catch the bird food. So it is so funny. They 363 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,279 don't I don't think it's frustrated to them. It's entertainment. 364 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:24,200 They like it, you know. Yes, they're hunters, yes, if 365 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,559 they had an opportunity where they try to catch the bird, yes, 366 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,480 but right now they are having so much fun. And 367 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:33,039 you hear sometimes that make a vocalization the cats. It's 368 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,279 kind of a weird thing. I think they enjoy it, 369 00:19:35,319 --> 00:19:38,160 so I don't think it's frustrating. So David go first 370 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,240 time having an English bulldog? Dropped there for any advice 371 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,440 I should know about the breed, Well, English bulldogs are great. 372 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:45,680 First of all. The funny thing is I always say 373 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,920 about English bulldogs for those of you it's going to 374 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,559 be a while. But remember back in cartoon days, okay, 375 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,400 and they had the old doghouse in the back and 376 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,200 with they say, no the name of the dog on 377 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,039 the dog house, and it was supposed to be the 378 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:04,200 protective dog, right, what was the dog? It was a bulldog? Well, 379 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,799 guess what. They're not that way at all. They are 380 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,160 usually so sweet. They are you know, personality plus. Now 381 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,519 do they have breathing issues yes, do they get ear 382 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:17,799 problems yes? Do they have skin issues with all the 383 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:21,359 facial folds and the head folds, yes, so is but 384 00:20:21,519 --> 00:20:24,160 there is no perfect breed. If you're okay with that, 385 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:27,519 I would say they are really really good dogs. You 386 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:30,440 have to watch obviously, they have a tendency to gain weight, 387 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:32,480 so you got to be careful. You want to keep 388 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:34,880 them lean because of their joints, you know, the way 389 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,880 their legs are shaped. There are sometimes a sitting duck 390 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:42,720 for developing arthridities. So you want to keep them as 391 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:45,160 lean as you can, you want to keep them clean. 392 00:20:45,599 --> 00:20:48,599 But as far as a pet, I think they're great. 393 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,200 My son had one for a long he adopted. He 394 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,240 adopted a nine year old bulldog from a shelter that 395 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,160 was on death row. And he was figuring, you know what, look, 396 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,400 it's a poor dog. What has it got a ear left? 397 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:02,839 Pretty old for a bulldog, so you figured months a 398 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,440 year or whatever. The sucker there four more years. So anyway, 399 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,000 but he was really a great dog. And so we 400 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:11,400 had that, the English bull and his French bull. It 401 00:21:11,519 --> 00:21:15,039 was really really cute. So copper storage, So, copper storage 402 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,039 is a condition. We see it. It affects liver. It's 403 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,599 not common. And as far as treatment, I have to 404 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,920 tell you I have to look up and see what's 405 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,079 new and exciting. I've not seen a case in twenty years. 406 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,200 And usually these are the things that end up being 407 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,640 diagnosed by the specialists because the liver values might be high, 408 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,279 and you know, sometimes you'll see we don't test for copper, 409 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,279 you know, as far as a routine lab work, so 410 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:43,839 sometimes he goes unnoticed. So what I'll do. I will 411 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,039 check with my intern as friends, and I will give 412 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:50,759 you a better, more accurate answer as far as I'm sure. 413 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:52,920 The things you want to know about are going to 414 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,759 be first of all, symptoms, how does it look? How 415 00:21:55,759 --> 00:21:59,119 do you know? Secondly what abnormalities one might find on 416 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,400 a blood test, and most importantly, how to treat it. 417 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,480 It may even take just just biopsy, so we need 418 00:22:05,519 --> 00:22:08,440 to find out first of all more specifics about it 419 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,839 and what one can do about it. So that's my 420 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:13,319 that'd be my homework for next week, and I'll be 421 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,200 here next week as well. If I hear anything civica 422 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,839 during the week. You know, was it diagnosed? Are you 423 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,680 with This question is a weird one, so it's coming 424 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:23,160 up for what reason? Was your bet diagnosed with it? 425 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,759 So let me know and we'll talk more about it. 426 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:28,759 And you know, it's something that if you saw it, 427 00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:31,440 I would think would be wise because it's not something 428 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,680 to GPS. I mean, actually I'm pretty good and I 429 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,720 don't know enough about it. Oh so ALT is high? Well, look, 430 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,440 alt can be high for a lot of reasons. And 431 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:43,079 how high AST is very high? Maybe because AST we 432 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480 don't normally put a lot of weight in, but if 433 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,960 it's very high, that might be significant. ALT high is it? 434 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,119 Is it above three or four hundred or is it 435 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,480 you know, one seventy five eighty two hundred low two hundreds. 436 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:58,880 Again that makes a difference because alt, depending on the 437 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,240 age of the dog, could be a lot of things. 438 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:04,680 Alt alanine transferates. That is the OAST is fourteen forty 439 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,079 that that's pretty high. Yes, yes, yes, I think hegh normal. 440 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,839 Is is it one hundred or less than one hundred? 441 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,920 So yeah, that is a high and yes, over three 442 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,079 hundred for the ALT. So that is it. Now. Symptomology, 443 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:17,839 what's going on is the is the dog acting weird? 444 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,200 Was this a reason the reason you brought the dog in? 445 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:23,640 Was it acting strange? Was it not eating? Was it 446 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,640 having irea, et cetera. So you want to know what 447 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:30,279 is the clinical presentation? How what is the clinical effect 448 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,400 of whatever this is is causing a problem. I believe 449 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,359 this may be something that they have to biopsy. I'm 450 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,200 not sure, but I don't think there's a test. Unless 451 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,160 there may be there may be a test. You'd have 452 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,720 to ask for it specialty, especially from the lab. But 453 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:51,119 it's not part of Yeah, negative for masses, no symptoms. Yeah, 454 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,759 that's a good one. So I think that if I'm 455 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:58,319 pretty sure, and I'll double check this, that the evaluation, 456 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,880 the diagnostic of choice, maybe to get some sample from 457 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,319 the liver. All right, now, also simple things, you know, 458 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,279 change the diet, put the dog on denimaron or denisil. 459 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:14,640 It's adnosil, it's a liver supplement. It's good for liver 460 00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:17,839 enzyme elevations. Again, alt is the most significant, and three 461 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,519 hundred is high, but it's not fourteen hundred. I've had 462 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,559 alts that are, you know, way way above a thousand, 463 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,599 So those are the ones that really worry me. Ast 464 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:31,319 we don't see that elevated that often. So because it 465 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,079 is fourteen hundred, I would definitely pay attention to it. 466 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,960 But more research needs to be done, more evaluation, more testing, 467 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,160 et cetera. And I'll try to find out for you 468 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,839 what would be the next best step. All right, anything else, 469 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,839 any other questions. I want to make sure I wave 470 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,799 to everybody and once again, as they say, always if 471 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:55,359 you have friends, anybody who could benefit from hearing this 472 00:24:55,839 --> 00:25:00,799 wacko doctor every Sunday morning giving advice answering questions about 473 00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:03,000 their pets, you know, one thing that I'm seeing, as 474 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,799 I mentioned earlier in the show, that because of the 475 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,000 high price of veterinary care, many are not electing to 476 00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:13,119 go to the VET. So this is where you know, 477 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,160 I'm defining telemedicine. We are so busy on air vet 478 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,000 or telemedicine platform because people are looking for alternative ways 479 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,799 to get information, get advice, have the pet seen virtually 480 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,319 of course seen by a doctor, and helping them sift 481 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,880 through the many possibilities. And that is kind of my 482 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,559 job on a Sunday morning. If I can equip you 483 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,599 with knowledge, knowledge is king. If you have to make 484 00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,599 a decision, how are you going to make the decision 485 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,519 without knowledge? So are you faced with a quandary and 486 00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:48,000 you can either I know, to go this way or 487 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,599 this way. At least I can help you decide which 488 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,000 would be the better course of action at this time. 489 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,680 So take advantage of me. My clients do it all 490 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,000 the time. They have my cell phone. They called me 491 00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:01,400 whatever they need to I know. But you know what, 492 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:04,839 that's where my joy comes from is from helping pets, 493 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,640 helping their people, and that makes me a happy camper. 494 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,440 All right. So we have gone through I think everybody 495 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,559 who I wanted to wave to, thank you so much 496 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,839 for joining me here today. I know it's probably better 497 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,640 things for some of you to do on a Sunday morning, 498 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240 But anytime you want to look, you don't have to 499 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,319 wait till Sunday. You get a hold of me, doctor 500 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,279 Jeff at Petlife Radio dot com, doctor Jeff at doctor 501 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,519 Jeff dot com, Jeff at airbat dot com. There are 502 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,119 so many ways I'm trying to avail myself so you 503 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,720 can get to me. I can answer your questions. And 504 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:39,240 if you do have my cell phone, you're gonna call me. 505 00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:42,119 Do not leave a voice message. I tell people I 506 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200 rarely listen to them. Send me a text. All right. Anyway, 507 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240 I have a great week, everybody. I will let you know. 508 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,279 I will do some some live stuff from super Zoo. 509 00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,200 From the floor. At super Zoo, I always have so 510 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,400 much fun seeing what's new, seeing what's exciting, seeing oh 511 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,319 my god, the grooming competition. You've seen that those poodles 512 00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:03,039 it's on believable. But hopefully we'll have a chance to 513 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,920 visit during the show if I have time. I don't know, 514 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,640 they're gonna be working like crazy in the booth, but 515 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,680 we will be here next week, same time on Sunday 516 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,559 nine in the West, noon in the East, and anywhere 517 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:17,599 in between, and we'll see then. 518 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,759 Speaker 2: O a go week, Give me money. 519 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,839 Speaker 3: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on petlife 520 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:37,240 Radio dot com.