1 00:00:01,199 --> 00:00:04,759 Speaker 1: Well off of a weekend that has seen something happened 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:10,439 to Johnny Fisher as in koh in the British Matchroom 3 00:00:10,519 --> 00:00:12,960 Heavyweight made of and he was knocked out. We're ready 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,719 to recap that. We're ready to recap the air quotes 5 00:00:16,879 --> 00:00:21,800 Junior Middleweight showdown with Sir Hey Boachuk. He did win 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,960 over Michael Fox. We're going to talk about that. We've 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,039 got plenty of news, we got a little bit of 8 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:30,000 nostalgia references including a birthday and much more. It is 9 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:34,560 the Fight Freaks Unite Recap podcast here on the podfeed. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,840 I am merely the somewhat competent host TJ. Reeves. He 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,759 is our insider Dan Rayphiel good to be back with 12 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:42,479 you Fight Freaks. You unit as his substack and newsletter, 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,600 Big Dan. We come off the weekend. Look, we're honest 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,159 with the audience. This was not big time world championship 15 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:51,560 heavy interest, but we're here. We're here for the savages. 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,000 We give you a recap of what was there. There 17 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:57,119 will be bigger fights in coming weeks that we will have, 18 00:00:57,159 --> 00:00:59,079 but we're we're just letting you know that we're here 19 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:01,240 and we've got something to promote. A couple moments. First 20 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,439 of all, how are you, How are things off the weekend? 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,359 Speaker 2: Thanks are good? It was it was, as you say, 22 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:09,040 a quiet Saturday for boxing. 23 00:01:09,159 --> 00:01:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a low key. 24 00:01:10,879 --> 00:01:12,799 Speaker 2: Make that every now and again. 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,599 Speaker 1: Make sure that you're following or subscribing on this podcast 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,719 feed for what we do, but make sure you're also 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,480 gaged engaged on the YouTube page, the Big Fight Weekend 28 00:01:22,519 --> 00:01:26,519 YouTube page for other content, special content, exclusive content. There 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,359 we can use your help with subscribers. Make sure you're subscribed, 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,359 make sure that you hit the like button on that 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,599 channel to help us out. A lot of you have 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,480 done that. Dan and I are looking at the metrics 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,280 and by the hundreds and hundreds you have been subscribing 34 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:44,359 not only the pod feed but also to the YouTube page. 35 00:01:44,879 --> 00:01:47,640 Keep it up, Keep it up, keep doing that. We 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,920 appreciate that. A lot of nostalgia content. Shall I while 37 00:01:50,959 --> 00:01:52,439 we're promoting? Should I just let the cat out of 38 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:54,439 the bag on what we're doing next Sunday night? Should 39 00:01:54,439 --> 00:01:55,840 we just tell them now and not make them wait 40 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:56,359 till the end? 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,599 Speaker 2: Do what you gotta do. 42 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: You always love dessert first, and I do too, especially 43 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:02,959 when I was younger, when I was a little kid. No, no, no. 44 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:04,239 When I was a little kid, I had to have 45 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,760 a bite at the cake or the ice cream or 46 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,599 something before we ate the meal. Sometimes I rarely got 47 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,280 away with it. But this is like dessert for later. 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:17,039 So next Sunday night, it is going to be Memorial 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Day weekend. Next Sunday night, we're gonna do it live. 50 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:24,719 We're gonna do the recamp pod live because also Big 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,680 Dan on YouTube. We're gonna do it live. Also it 52 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,680 is the sixtieth anniversary next Sunday Night of arguably the 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,599 most controversy. It is the most controversial heavyweight title fight 54 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:39,240 of Mhammad Ali's career. It's one of the most controversial 55 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:43,639 fights in boxing history. Was it truly a punch? Was 56 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,199 it a knockout for Ali over Sunny listed in the rematch? 57 00:02:47,759 --> 00:02:50,000 Because there's a lot of belief, even sixty years later, 58 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,280 that fight was fixed for reasons that we'll explain and extole, 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,199 big controversy back in the nineteen sixties. Will relive that 60 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,560 as part of the lie show that we're doing exclusively 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,560 on YouTube. First. The pod will be out at a 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,120 later time. But to see us and to hear all 63 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:12,680 about the recap, go find us on YouTube. That's the 64 00:03:12,719 --> 00:03:14,759 best I can do. I'm telling you where it's gonna be. 65 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:20,159 And we'll talk some Ali Ali Ali and the craziness 66 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:22,599 of how the heavyweight championship fight ended up in a 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,840 youth center hockey rink Rayfhael in Lewiston, Maine, back in 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,159 nineteen sixty five in front of fewer than twenty five 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,599 hundred people. Mind you for that title fight, we'll do 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,439 that next week, all right, So let's get into it 71 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,240 with the understanding again that we basically had two fight 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,879 cards that were covering. So London's card in the afternoon 73 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:46,560 US time was the Mattroom main event. And a funny 74 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:49,319 thing happened on the way to Johnny Fisher. Oh I 75 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,400 got a whole lot better. 76 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,719 Speaker 2: What a segue from Muhammad Ali to Johnny Johnny Fisher. 77 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Do we need binoculars to look down on the segway? 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,159 I think we might. A funny thing happened on the 79 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:02,960 way Rafael to Johnny Fisher. Looking better In the rematch 80 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:06,360 with Dave Allen, he not only did not look better, 81 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:09,199 he got you love to say it, go ahead and 82 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:11,439 say it. He got knocked the what go ahead? Say it? 83 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:14,039 Speaker 2: Well, he didn't get knocked the fuck out. 84 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,759 Speaker 1: He did. 85 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: No, yes, yeah, but it was the corner that threw 86 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,959 in the towel. When I think knocked the fuck out, 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,560 you're on the canvas for a ten pounds splattered. 88 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,519 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but he was finished the first he was, uh, okay, 89 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:31,000 what happened here? I saw it. I'll tell you, I'm 90 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,600 not even sure twenty four hours later that I understand 91 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,040 what happened. I know what happened. 92 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Johnny Fisher showed that he's not the next thing. I 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,519 mean I didn't think he was anyway, but he's now 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,800 shown that he's not because he fought a stupid fight. 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,959 He fought a terrible fight. And you know, I'll give 96 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,199 David Allen some credit because he obviously got the job done. 97 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:49,920 But this was a fight set up on a tee 98 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,240 for Johnny Fisher. He was any kind of serious prospect 99 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:54,360 or up and coming contender that you take care of 100 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,639 your business. He fought David Allen in December in Saudi Arabia. 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,360 He got knocked down in the fifth round. He did survive, 102 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:03,439 and by the way, it was a very fun fight 103 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,360 to watch. I mean, these are two guys that come 104 00:05:05,399 --> 00:05:07,639 in and just come to throw bombs and take your 105 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,319 head off. Not a lot of fanciness here, not a 106 00:05:09,319 --> 00:05:12,199 lot of technique or strategy. And that's part of David 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Allen's problem why he hasn't gotten further in his career, 108 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,839 because he does have some ability, and it's the same 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,680 thing that Johnny Fisher is showing that he doesn't fight 110 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,399 in a smart manner. But nonetheless, when they had their 111 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:24,519 first fight back in December, they went to ten round 112 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:27,240 distance and it was Johnny Fisher that got the split 113 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,160 decision victory, much to the consternation of many, because most 114 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:32,839 people that I saw and that I thought about, dot 115 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 that David Allen deserved the decision. So, okay, they do 116 00:05:35,879 --> 00:05:38,480 a rematch. Now they go to London, which is the 117 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,079 hometown for Johnny Fisher. He brings out his big crowd 118 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:45,319 to the Copper Box Arena in London and his British 119 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:47,360 countryman David Allen, who, by the way, they've sparred together 120 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,759 a ton of rounds. They're friends with each other, they 121 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,600 have a lot of respect each other. They're both very 122 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,879 likable guys. I mean, whatever you think about their boxing ability, 123 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,240 they're you know, they have you know that every man 124 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,360 sort of are about them. The fans enjoy them, and 125 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,839 they're they're hard working, just not at a certain level. 126 00:06:01,879 --> 00:06:04,920 And Johnny Fisher showed that he's just not at that 127 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,199 level because even though he was winning the fight, it 128 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,279 seemed to me, I don't know what the official scorecards 129 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:11,879 were because they didn't we didn't get a chance to 130 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,759 see them. But you know, through four rounds, he's probably 131 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:18,519 up three to one on the cards, or should have 132 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:21,720 been anyway. And then in the fifth round, like what 133 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,839 happened in the first fight, he got dropped. I mean, 134 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:28,319 and that was a hard knockdown. He got knocked down 135 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,439 twice actually in the round, but once was the one 136 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:32,680 was the left hook or whatever that punch was was 137 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,399 a just a tremendous shot. He did beat the count, 138 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:37,439 but it was not looking good. The route is coming 139 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:40,680 to an end and David Allen is just launching shots 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,160 and there was one particular punch where it was that 141 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:45,680 sort of head rattling eyes up in the back of 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,560 the head. Yeah, just before the bell rang, Like the 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,040 sequence was still going when the bell rang, and at 144 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,560 that moment where David Allen is falling to the canvas again, 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,519 he would have his corner throwing in the towel, and 146 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,480 the referee of course recognizes the stoppage and waves off 147 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:03,519 the fight, so it was officially the time was three 148 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,240 minutes of the fifth round, so right at the end 149 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,800 of the round. But even if they had given him 150 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,360 the one minute in between, I'm not sure he would 151 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,040 have been able to do. 152 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,879 Speaker 1: I don't know that he beats the count. He got 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,240 clipped with the left first and then was like knock 154 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:21,639 out in slow motion, going down in Allen right, yes. 155 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, like you said, it goes down, it goes 156 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,600 down as a TKO. But maybe he would have stayed 157 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,959 down for the count. But the point is that was 158 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,560 a terrible, terrible loss for Johnny Fisher. It was a 159 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,639 big win for David Allen, who's in the twilight of 160 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,319 his career, probably his biggest win. I guess if you 161 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:38,279 take a look at his overall record, and you know 162 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:40,079 he's fought a lot of guys. The points that he 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,199 made in the post fight was, you know, I fought 164 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,000 world title challengers, I fought Olympic gold medalists, I fought 165 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,720 other contenders, and so maybe I haven't won those fights, 166 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,800 but I have a hell of a lot more of 167 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:51,439 experience and have been in the ring and been competitive 168 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:54,040 at times with fighters who are way better than anybody 169 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:56,000 that Johnny Fisher has ever fought, you know, who can 170 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,639 count you know, David Allen as his best opponent at 171 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,240 this point. Uh So it's a it's a good win 172 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:05,480 for for David Allen. You know, it is a fun 173 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:08,439 fight to watch and what happens going forward. Eddie Pearn, 174 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,360 who is the promoter for the fight, made the point 175 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,959 in terms of Johnny that you know, okay, technically now 176 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,000 they're one and one because they each have a victory, 177 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,040 but they won't do a trilogy. In the next fight. 178 00:08:19,079 --> 00:08:21,360 They need to get Johnny Fisher back on track to 179 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:23,079 see what he can do. Who knows what that will be, 180 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,040 but I would suspect they'll bring Johnny back, you know, 181 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:27,439 in the next you know, he'll get him a little 182 00:08:27,439 --> 00:08:30,560 rest obviously after that situation getting stopped, and his next 183 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,399 fight will be just you know, let's kind of get 184 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,720 the confidence back. Let's to get in the ring and 185 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:37,559 do something and then if everything is okay after that, 186 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,120 then I suspect, as Eddie talked about, they'll try to 187 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,679 do a third fight and you know, give him one 188 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,480 more opportunities, you know, get one uh, you know, another 189 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,279 big crowd, another obviously another good payday and if he 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,960 can win, you know, maybe put himself back on track. 191 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:53,679 If he loses, you know, I'm not want to say 192 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,639 his career is over, but it's certainly over in terms 193 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,360 of like thinking he might have a chance to do anything. 194 00:08:57,399 --> 00:08:58,279 I think it's over already. 195 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,919 Speaker 1: And you can make the straw argument it's over right 196 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,639 now after what. 197 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: That doesn't it's over from that standpoint, But it doesn't 198 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,320 mean he can't go on and make a living and 199 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,399 make fun fights and you know, get to a certain level, 200 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,600 maybe a British title something like that. But you know, 201 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,960 not every heavyweight or any fighter has created the same 202 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,279 They doesn't mean you can't go and make a living 203 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,080 and entertain your crowd and and uh and bring some 204 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,960 entertainment and some drama. But the notion that he's going 205 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,559 to get to the world class level, to me, that 206 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,919 ain't happening. That's my opinion. I don't I don't wish 207 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,440 bad on the guy. If you can do it, great, 208 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,679 I mean, that would be wonderful to see you like that. 209 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,799 Speaker 1: Can I confess I was not watching live, but I 210 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,960 went back and relived it and saw it, and you 211 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,919 sent me the word fraud. I mean, he looked like 212 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,279 this looks like he's been a fraud with the way 213 00:09:44,279 --> 00:09:46,120 that he got knocked out, and he's got to demonstrate 214 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,080 in a subsequent fight or two that he's not. And 215 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:52,679 right now they're big question marks about him. Question. So 216 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:56,120 there's the Matchroom main event. We'll have a little news 217 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,279 off of what went in the ring, what went on 218 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,840 in the ring and promotional wise for Mattroom in a 219 00:10:00,879 --> 00:10:03,840 couple of moments. First though, we swing all the way 220 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,440 from London to the California coast to Commerce, California and 221 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,039 the Commerce Casino. That's where the main event for the 222 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,200 three sixty Promotions battle on UFC Fight Pass saw Sir 223 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:20,679 Hey Bullatchuck win over Michael Fox by decision not unexpected. 224 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,440 You and I both had that accurately predicted on the 225 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,559 bet Us show. Bulletchuck was more aggressive, landing more Fox, 226 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,240 crafty taller didn't do much in the fight from from 227 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:36,320 what I saw, and uh and so Bullechuck wins. Now, 228 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,879 the interesting thing this was not a junior middleweight fight. 229 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:41,960 Elaborate into that he gets the win, is he gonna 230 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,279 now still stay at junior middleweight one fifty four or 231 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,480 what's going on here? Because he was significantly hot. 232 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,519 Speaker 2: He I mean, you had Virgil Artis, you know, who 233 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,799 was a guy who had fought Bulletchuck in that great 234 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,759 fight making comments to Eddy Hearn about the fact that 235 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,759 or not Teddy hear and I'm sorry to Tom Loffler 236 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:04,120 that he was not at one hundred and fifty four pounds, 237 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:07,279 And what Virgil and everybody else that follows boxing should 238 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,639 understand has he's not in a title fight, is a 239 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,320 ten round, non title in between fight like they've done 240 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,000 for a century in boxing, just not maybe recently. His 241 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,320 guys take fights that are not on the exact weight. 242 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,399 There is zero reason for him to make that weight. 243 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,240 So the contract weight, from what the three sixty people 244 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,960 tell me, was one hundred and sixty pounds, So he 245 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,399 came in at one hundred and fifty nine and change 246 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,759 his opponent Michael Fox, who's not you know, is coming 247 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:33,039 out from ulterweight basically or you know, came in at 248 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:38,200 one fifty four point something on his own to be lighter, 249 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,879 to be quicker, maybe, but that doesn't change the fact 250 00:11:40,919 --> 00:11:43,159 that it's not a Bolchuk with that overweight, he's still 251 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,600 the number one contender in the WBC for the one 252 00:11:45,639 --> 00:11:47,960 hundred and fifty four pounds title, and when that opportunity 253 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:50,799 arises and he can, you know, go into the fight 254 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,720 against a top contender and or for a title, he'll 255 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:56,559 be at one fifty four. But so the fact that 256 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,399 this was a fight over the weight that's totally common. 257 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,320 I think it might have been a little confusing to 258 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:05,000 some people because he was closer to one sixty and 259 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,519 Michael Fox was closer to one to fifty four that 260 00:12:07,639 --> 00:12:10,240 he gave up six pounds basically, which I didn't know 261 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:11,840 if that's the greatest thing to do, but it didn't 262 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,120 make a difference. This was on paper. As I said beforehand, 263 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,799 this was the kind of fight where you can't have 264 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,879 Boatchuk sit around and not fight. The title shot is 265 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,240 going to happen if he doesn't lose, because he is 266 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:26,919 now at the official mandatory. But you can't just sit 267 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,240 on the shelf and not fight, and that title shot 268 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,279 is not like it's happening next month or and two months, 269 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:33,639 earn three months or in four months or whenever. Because 270 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:37,039 the Sebastian fandor who is the Dobec champion is going 271 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,519 to be fighting this summer. He's going to be fighting 272 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,919 Tim Zuo in a rematch, and so at the very 273 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,720 very earliest, you're talking about the last part of the 274 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:47,120 year where maybe he would get that fight, and I'm 275 00:12:47,159 --> 00:12:49,399 not even sure exactly when the mandatory is due. I 276 00:12:49,399 --> 00:12:52,879 don't think it is due just yet anyway, So it's 277 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:54,960 better for a fighter like Boachuk to get in there, 278 00:12:55,039 --> 00:12:57,360 get some rounds and just you know, you know, do 279 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,519 your job and be a boxer. So he went in 280 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,200 there with Michael Fox, you know, a solid veteran, but 281 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,159 not a guy with any particular power on his shots. 282 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 He's got a very low knockout rate. You know, he's 283 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,440 usually lost when he stepped up. But from the standpoint 284 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,399 of the matchmaking, you don't want to just have him 285 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:15,480 blow a guy out in one round and then stillst 286 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:17,320 it on the shelf for ten months or however long 287 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,840 it's going to be. So they got him a guy 288 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:21,840 that's extremely durable in Michael Fox, and so to nobody's surprise, 289 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,559 they did go the distance. But it wasn't like the 290 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:26,279 bow chick barely had a break a sweat. From what 291 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,039 I saw. Now, I didn't see the full fight. I 292 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:30,720 don't subscribe to UFC five pass. I watched, you know, 293 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:35,879 some extended highlights of it on YouTube, and so it 294 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:37,919 looked to me from what I did see about a 295 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,279 twelve minute or so of the fight, he had no problems, 296 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,720 barely broke a sweat. He wins the fight ninety seven 297 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,720 ninety three on two score cards, ninety eight ninety two. 298 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,559 Never a moment where you thought that Michael Fox is 299 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,360 going to have a chance to do anything in terms 300 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,919 of actually winning. He wasn't going to win at least 301 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,320 six rounds. He never came close from what I saw, 302 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:59,000 to scoring any kind of knockout punch whatsoever. But he 303 00:13:59,039 --> 00:14:01,039 does have a good chance. So Boachuk, who was the 304 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,000 more aggressive fighter not a surprise, landed some punches, but 305 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:08,320 they didn't have any dramatic effect on Fox. Maybe also 306 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,519 because bochuk was you know, you know, he was maybe 307 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,080 trying to get some rounds in and as long as 308 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,240 he could landed shots, it wasn't necessarily looking to get 309 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,559 the guy out of there. I can't speak to that, 310 00:14:17,919 --> 00:14:21,440 but the bottom line was this or just you know, straightforward, 311 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:25,080 the better guy wins a decision and moves on and 312 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,840 he'll fight for the title, and Michael Fox will continue 313 00:14:27,879 --> 00:14:29,840 to get fights, probably because he still has a very 314 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,759 good record. He still can pose some trickiness to an opponent, 315 00:14:33,799 --> 00:14:35,600 and he still got a long reach, and he still 316 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,000 has a good chin, and he can still have a career. 317 00:14:38,039 --> 00:14:39,840 But he's not at that certain level where he's going 318 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:43,039 to give the top contenders any real cause for concern. 319 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,320 And that's exactly what happened in this fight. 320 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: All right, So you successfully explained it may be another 321 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,480 contender fight before he fights Pudor, or maybe he will 322 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,919 just sit tight and it might be a while before 323 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,399 he gets a shot, and then again it maybe one 324 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,919 of those WBC interim things later on down. 325 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:02,399 Speaker 2: Keep in mind also that just because he's the mandatory 326 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,240 in the WBC, if one of the other champions who's 327 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,320 looking for a challenger decides, hey, like maybe we can 328 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,399 make a deal with Boachuk, they can go make a 329 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,519 deal with anybody else. I mean, they're in the mandatory 330 00:15:13,519 --> 00:15:16,240 position for the WBC, but it doesn't preclude him from 331 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,440 being offered a fight against one of the other champions 332 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,600 that might come up and be something that's appealing to that. 333 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,919 Speaker 1: All right, So now to the news. There's the recaps 334 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,519 from the weekend. Again. You know, some weeks we have 335 00:15:27,679 --> 00:15:30,519 stellar and lots of championship fights and wild stuff, but 336 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,519 we just gave you what we had there in England 337 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:34,600 and in California to work with. So to the news 338 00:15:34,679 --> 00:15:38,440 on the match Room Show and in the ring, they 339 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,679 announced that Jack Catterall will move up to welterweight and 340 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,080 will now be fighting Harlem u Bank in a welterweight 341 00:15:47,159 --> 00:15:50,399 main event in July. Tell me more about the date, 342 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:52,759 where it is and what got confirmed. 343 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,639 Speaker 2: So I actually had reported this before it was announced, 344 00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,559 but they did announce it, as you said. During the broadcast. 345 00:15:58,799 --> 00:16:02,159 Mattrim also out a press release announcing in particular, so 346 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,759 it's taking place July fifth, on his own of course, 347 00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:07,559 a match Room Boxing main event. It will take place 348 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,360 at the AO Arena in Manchester, England, which is Jack 349 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:13,240 Catterall's home region. He comes from just you know, a town, 350 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,399 you know, fifteen twenty minutes outside of Manchester, so it's 351 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:18,080 going to be his hometown crowd. He has fought there 352 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,840 before and he's moving up to welterwight. He's coming off 353 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:23,279 of the loss a close loss a split decision that 354 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,840 took place in Manchester at a different arena in February, 355 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:28,960 where he lost to Arnold Barbosa in a kind of 356 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,960 an upset. That was the fight that helped Barbosa really 357 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,159 locked down the opportunity, you know, to get the fight 358 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 that he ultimately lost to Devin Haney a couple of 359 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:40,799 weeks ago. So Caterall looking for new life. You know 360 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,480 that the ship has sailed. I guess for him at 361 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:45,759 Junior Walter Wade, he couldn't get the job done against Barbosa. Obviously, 362 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,559 we don't have to relitigate everything that happened with the 363 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:50,000 back and forth of the two fights against Josh Taylor 364 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,879 where he got, you know, the big controversial loss, and 365 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:54,879 then he obviously avenged it. But Josh had already been 366 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,080 relieved of the titles at that point, had lost at 367 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Tia Fimo, So it was satisfying I guess from the 368 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,440 same point that he avenged it, but not so much 369 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,039 because he didn't get any belts out of it. So 370 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,119 now he's going in the ring with Harlem. You Bank, 371 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,440 you say you Bank. That's an awfully familiar name to me. Obviously, 372 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:10,640 he is twenty one to oh with nine knockouts. He 373 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,960 is thirty one years old, not a young fighter by 374 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,039 any means. He is the nephew of Chris hu Bank Senior, 375 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:18,079 the first cousin of Chris hu Bank Junior. That is 376 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,599 the familial a relation there, and Chris Hubank Senior has 377 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,759 been very instrumental in guiding his career. He may have 378 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,839 had a falling out which seems to be repaired anyway 379 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,759 for the time being with his son, but he's been 380 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,599 very associated and involved with his nephew's career. So that 381 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,559 is that is that fight. So they'll make a big 382 00:17:36,599 --> 00:17:38,319 thing about it. I have to be honest, I don't 383 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,640 I saw this fight. It kind of came out of 384 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,559 the blue to me. I mean, I guess they're matching 385 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,480 up some nice names, but I've said this about certain 386 00:17:45,519 --> 00:17:47,000 other fights. I looked at the matchup, and I mean, 387 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:48,359 if you want to make the fight, so be it. 388 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,160 From an entertainment value perspective, I just don't see this 389 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:51,960 fight being a good fight. 390 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:54,079 Speaker 1: We canep it real and true. 391 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, catterall, you know, he's a hell of a boxer, 392 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,160 but he doesn't typically make good fights. That's just the reality. 393 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,799 He can watch any number of Harlem you Bank makes 394 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:04,480 maybe better fights than him, but there's not been the 395 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,440 ones to write home about, so you know, they'll do 396 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:10,519 their thing. I sure they'll drag a nice crowd there 397 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:12,279 because you know, the Brits are great fans. They'll turn 398 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:15,119 out for their guy, Jack Catterrell, and I'm sure you Bank, 399 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,720 given his family name and everything, he'll draw some folks 400 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,640 also and they'll put on the fight and they'll winner. 401 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,720 You know, we'll probably move on to a bigger opportunity 402 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:26,960 because it is, you know, two good names, and Caterroll 403 00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:29,079 is a guy that's been in the ring with some 404 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,960 of the very top fighters in the sport, even though 405 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,279 not in the welterweight division. So he's trying to make, 406 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,200 you know, make a splash, I guess in a new 407 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,920 weight class, and you know, let's see what he can do. 408 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,039 And for you Bank, this would be by far and 409 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:41,359 away his biggest win if he could grab it, because 410 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,279 he's got a nice record, but there's not a lot 411 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,680 of names they would recognize. His biggest win is probably 412 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,839 his last fight, where he knocked out a tenth round 413 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,359 knockout against Tyrone McKenna, who's a veteran who's been in 414 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,599 the ring with some good fighters over the years, and 415 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,680 so that's what this is, they announce said on on 416 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,559 the weekend. 417 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,799 Speaker 1: All right, so speaking, why don't we stick with it? 418 00:18:56,839 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaking of match room, they also have made the announcement 419 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:04,599 that on the un fourteenth, Richardson Hitchins George Cambosa's card, 420 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,359 there now is an undercard fight involving Andy Kruz as 421 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,759 they move him along, talk more about that being announced 422 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:14,440 as part of the undercard while we're just here on 423 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,279 the matchroom subject. 424 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know if they've been looking to get 425 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,519 him in that type of fight, to get him into 426 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:21,200 a position to fight for you know, something of significance, 427 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:22,960 either a title liminated or even a title start that 428 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,359 they could get it, but the title shot was not available. 429 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,720 So Andy Kruz as people, if you followed the sport, 430 00:19:28,319 --> 00:19:30,400 he's only five to zero with two knockouts, but he's 431 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,480 a tremendous talent and he's not a guy that needs 432 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,279 babying and needs a tremendous amount of you know fights, 433 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,519 or took a four round fight even he turned pro, 434 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:40,559 and I think it was at a ten rounder even 435 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,400 because he's a legendary amateur. He's a twenty twenty Cuban 436 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,680 Olympic gold medalist, if you take it, that's just one 437 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,519 acco Lady's won everything in the amagurs, World Championships and 438 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:53,559 Pan American Games, and you know, you name the top 439 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:55,640 tournament and Andy Kruz has probably won it. He's got 440 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,759 the wins over Keshan Davis and the amateurs, including in 441 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:02,039 the Olympics. And he is probably the best up and 442 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:04,480 coming fighter in boxing. If you can even call him 443 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,480 a prospect. That's kind of one of those dicey things. 444 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,440 He's twenty nine, he only has the five professional fights. 445 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,359 I'm not going to say he's better than or he's 446 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,559 alike to him, but it's the way they're moving him 447 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,519 in the the not needing you know, a bunch of 448 00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:24,799 like smaller six rounders and four rounders and eight rounders, 449 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,839 but they can get right to the real action. It's 450 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000 very similar to like when Lomachenko became y. It's that 451 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,200 type of situation. So he goes into this matchup where 452 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,680 they've made a IBF lightweight title eliminated for the number 453 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,319 one position, so the winner will become the mandatory against 454 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:44,200 a Japanese fighter named Hironri Maschito Mashiro, who's seventeen to 455 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,920 one and one, not with a big resume, but it 456 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,720 will be a final eliminator. It will take place on 457 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:51,279 the under card. It'll be the co feature June fourteenth 458 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,240 at the Theater at Madison Square Garden. The de Zone 459 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:56,759 card that night is headlined by the New York fighter 460 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:00,279 Richardson Hitchins, who's defending the IBF Junior Walter WA title 461 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:02,920 against George Cambosa. So this will be the co feature 462 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,200 on that night. And you know, it's a great opportunity 463 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:09,119 for Andy Cruz to you know, put himself in a 464 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,039 chance to fight for world title. It's obviously a great 465 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:15,359 opportunity for his opponent a Shiro also, you know, Missiro 466 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,279 is not well known. But I like Andy Kruse. He 467 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,160 you know, I got a chance to watch Andy Cruis 468 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,559 for the first time in person last summer when he 469 00:21:21,599 --> 00:21:23,519 fought on the under cart in Los Angeles when Crawford 470 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:25,920 fought Magriimov, and he had a couple of very brief 471 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,240 moments in that fight where he had some trouble, but 472 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,000 he showed a lot of veteran like savvy to get 473 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,160 through it. And I think he's better for it, and 474 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,079 he's a really good fighter, and we'll see if he 475 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:35,960 can take the next step. 476 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: All right, So there's the matchroom news for that coming 477 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,039 up in June, as well as the fight card in July. 478 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,720 All right, we left you heading into the weekend talking 479 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,359 about when is the Canelo Crawford fight going to be? 480 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359 You said, because I pay attention to you, and I 481 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,599 read my substack the fight for eaching a substack hold 482 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,880 on here. It may still be on Friday night, September twelve. 483 00:21:58,519 --> 00:22:01,759 It may not be. Yeah, you said, maybe it could 484 00:22:01,799 --> 00:22:04,039 stay on there, but you said you would rather see 485 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:06,519 it in the T Mobile Arena if you had your druthers, 486 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,480 better perse, better environment, blah blah blah for Saturday, September thirteenth. 487 00:22:11,519 --> 00:22:15,599 Alas one Turkey alask the head of the Saudi Entertainment 488 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,880 Authorities boxing part of what they're doing has now tweeted 489 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:22,079 or xed or posted or whatever we want to call it. 490 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,680 That In fact, I'll just read it. We have confirmed 491 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,000 the promoter for Canelo versus Crawford will be SILA for 492 00:22:29,079 --> 00:22:32,799 Rio Odds season, and the broadcaster we have not decided, 493 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,319 but the date will be September thirteenth, more details soon. 494 00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:40,559 Now in reading that statement, we don't know who the 495 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:44,240 broadcaster is and he did not again say Las Vegas 496 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,240 when he had the opportunity to say Las Vegas. So 497 00:22:46,279 --> 00:22:47,480 what do you make of this update? 498 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:50,279 Speaker 2: Well, number one, it's Sella. That is the company that 499 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,200 is that's part of the that's like the subsidiary of 500 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,079 the Saudi Private Investment Fund that handles all of the 501 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,920 things related to sports. It stands for sports, entertainment and leisure, 502 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,200 or I take it back Saudi Entertainment and Leisure, and 503 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000 they oversee whatever you know, read season events, come in concerts, 504 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:10,119 sporting events, et cetera, and that they will act I 505 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,200 guess as the official promoter. And the reason why that's 506 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,119 caused a lot of people to sort of raise the 507 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,480 eyebrow was because prior to this announcement that was made 508 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,759 by Turkey on Sunday was if you go back before 509 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,759 when they announced the fight in the ring after Canello 510 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,160 Skull and they had Crawford and Canelo square off with 511 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,559 each other in the ring, it was like right at 512 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,319 that and that it was like a couple hours later 513 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,440 where he put up on social media that you know, 514 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,799 I forget how he phrased exactly, but basically, like, you know, 515 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,359 my good friend Dana White and and our partners at 516 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,680 TKO will promote the fight. Okay, that seemed logical. I 517 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,039 mean that was what everybody was speculating as soon as 518 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,319 the fight was made, that with their deal that they 519 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,440 had announced back a few weeks ago or a month ago, 520 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:51,839 that they were going to be doing this you know, 521 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,079 boxing series with the Saudi's, that it would make sense 522 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,440 to bring them in at the highest level right off 523 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,000 the bat to kind of kickstart things and they would 524 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,880 promote this fight. Now, they're the ones that Azai reported 525 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,559 were instrumental in making a deal with Netflix to do 526 00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:09,119 the event. But that's clearly not the case anymore. I 527 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240 don't know exactly what happened there, but if there's a problem, 528 00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,240 if there's not a problem. All I know is this 529 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,720 clearly the way that Turkey phrased his thing that he 530 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:20,079 posted that Dana and TK are not involved in this 531 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,200 Crawford and Canelo fight. It is going to be on Saturday, 532 00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:27,359 September thirteenth, and the location is still not announced, nor 533 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,240 is the broadcaster, So that raises a lot of questions. 534 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:33,559 Maybe they'll make a deal on their own with Netflix 535 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,680 and they'll go on Saturday. Maybe it'll be on pay 536 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,039 per view. Who knows it would be the zone. I 537 00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:40,640 can't imagine that they would do an event of this magnitude, 538 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:44,759 And unlike what they did with Canelo Skull and Ryan 539 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,680 Garcia against Romero in the Times Square Card and also 540 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,119 with Chris Ubank Junior and Connor Ben, those were pay 541 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,680 per views that were only available on his own at 542 00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:56,640 least in the United States. I think the Ben and u 543 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,759 Bank one was available also on Sky Sports Box Office 544 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:02,119 in the U right, but in the United States is 545 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720 what I'm thinking about, which is the market for Crawford, 546 00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,240 And of course, you know, because this is where they 547 00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:10,160 fight for the most part, and Crawford's American and Canelo, 548 00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:13,000 you know, basically is not. He's not American, but he's 549 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:15,079 fought most of his big fights here. You know, he 550 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,079 spends a lot of time living in San Diego. I mean, 551 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720 it's his adopted country in many ways. Anyway, here's the 552 00:25:19,759 --> 00:25:22,160 thing about that, if they do that pay per view, 553 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,119 I have to believe they'll go. And besides being available 554 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,359 on his own, I would imagine it also I would 555 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,480 think they would also try to work out deals and 556 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,279 make it available so you can buy it on your 557 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:34,559 normal television, like lots of people still do within Demand 558 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,400 or PPV dot com or also have it available on 559 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240 you know, the various satellite services, and you know maybe 560 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,960 even like on Prime Video or on ESPN Plus or 561 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:46,440 roku orerever you want to talk about it. But he 562 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,559 he created a lot of questions because let me tell you, 563 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:50,880 I'm not saying he did. Nobody's saying that Turkey al 564 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,400 Sheik did this on purpose. But there's a lot of 565 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,000 people that are pissed off because they announced the fight 566 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,759 on September twelfth, and a lot of people went out 567 00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:59,720 and bought plane tickets or booked hotels. And you know, 568 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,559 though the official tickets weren't on sale, because the Allegiant 569 00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:05,960 Stadium has season ticket holders that can sell tickets to events, 570 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:09,000 were already buying the tickets that those people would be promised, 571 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000 And so it just becomes a bit of a of 572 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:12,839 a of a mess because. 573 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: And again he hasn't said whether it's even staying in 574 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,559 Las Vegas, Like the likelihood is it will be there, 575 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:21,119 but he hasn't announced it. 576 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,319 Speaker 2: I'm not i mean, I'm not I'm not so sure 577 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,319 about that. I mean because of the way that they 578 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,440 do things. I mean, I wouldn't have guessed they're going 579 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,680 to put a boxing match at the Louis Armstrong Stadium. 580 00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,319 I don't think anybody had, you know, uh, Times Square 581 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,319 and there Bengal card. I mean, they do do out 582 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,359 of the box kind of thing. So I would say 583 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,759 anybody that's thinking about booking a flight, a hotel, trying 584 00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,079 to buy a ticket, just take a chill. 585 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,319 Speaker 1: Let hire beware that you are not promised anything right now. 586 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: Exact any By the way, anybody that actually bought a 587 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,720 ticket for Allegiant on on the on the twelfth, you're 588 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,680 a fucking idiot because there were no real tickets available 589 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:55,920 because they hadn't gone on selling yet and they hadn't 590 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,160 even announced the ticketings for it. You were buying it 591 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,920 from a season ticket holder at the at the. 592 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,519 Speaker 1: But who knows one other thing that I will add 593 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,880 while we while we keep it real. Uh, you've expressed this, 594 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,799 I'm gonna echo it. It would be smart tactically to 595 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,720 give this back to the fans that subscribe with Netflix 596 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,480 and not have to pay the pay per view prices. 597 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:21,480 Because again you made people pay whomever paid for Canelo 598 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,279 and William Skull, which was putred. You should have probably 599 00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,960 offered refunds or future discounts or whatever for whoever paid. 600 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,200 I don't. I mean, it's definitely buyer beware. 601 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,279 Speaker 2: So what's the saying, he pays your money, it takes 602 00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:35,720 your chances. 603 00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:39,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But at this point, the Netflix thing would 604 00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:40,880 be a great give back. It would be a great 605 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,720 olive branch to the fans and have massive, massive audience 606 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,279 that you can sell advertising for. Listen to me, making 607 00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:50,359 sense from a business standpoint, Let's see, Let's see what 608 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,200 they choose to do. They haven't announced what they're doing 609 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,240 with Canelo and Crawford yet, and we have time for that. 610 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,240 All right, A couple more things the Jake Paul Julio 611 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:03,559 Cesar Chavez Junior Press, France midweek last week. Jake Paul 612 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,559 was still mentioning about something you talked about before, something 613 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,839 that has been out there that he is still interested 614 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,880 in an exhibition air quotes with Tank Davis. All right, 615 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 so how much legs does this have because Tank still 616 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:19,039 has a fight coming up, a rematch with Lamont Roach. 617 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:23,279 Speaker 2: But tell me more, Well, remember before Tank Davis had 618 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:28,680 the draw against Lamont Roach, and after the fight between 619 00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:33,079 Jake Paul and Canelo sort of disintegrated, there was discussion 620 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:36,960 that Jake Paul and Gervonta Davis would do an exhibition match, 621 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,039 and then, of course, and I broke that story. And 622 00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:43,480 then you know, he got the draw against Roach and 623 00:28:43,519 --> 00:28:45,640 exercised the rematch, So the notion that that would take 624 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,720 place next was out the window. And so therefore Jake 625 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,559 Paul went to his next available guy and he made 626 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,559 the deal for this pay per view fight against Julio 627 00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:58,599 Caesar Chavez Junior that will take place, you know, next month, 628 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:02,680 and they were doing the press conference in Los Angeles 629 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:04,920 to announce that and also introduce some of the undercard 630 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960 stuff for that fight, and at that particular event, and 631 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:09,799 as you know, like they're going to do the rematch 632 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:11,799 being Tank and Roach, supposedly it's going to happen in 633 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:16,119 August on a PBC pay per view again, but they're 634 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,119 still this notion and he was asked about this in 635 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,160 the media scrum. I watched the video of it where 636 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,680 he was asked about, you know, if there was still 637 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,720 legs or truth to this thing about him and Givonda Davis, 638 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,559 and he told the press straight up, Yeah, we're still 639 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,960 talking about it behind the scenes, but it would probably 640 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,960 be an exhibition. They're talking about what the lake of 641 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,440 the weight limitations are because remember, I mean, it is 642 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,319 kind of preposterous. 643 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,759 Speaker 1: I'm stupid. I'll say they're seventy they're sixty seventy pounds apart. 644 00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Jake Paul fights as a two hundred pound dish cruiserweight 645 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,519 slash have you when he went off even well over 646 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,200 two hundred when he fought Tyson. He's fought generally in 647 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,400 like the one nineties. Tank Davis is one hundred and 648 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,759 thirty five pound world champion. He has fought, you know, 649 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,039 in the one hundred and forty pound division, won a 650 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,200 belts a few years ago, a secondary title. Hasn't gone 651 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:03,799 up to fight any of the top guys at one 652 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,079 forty and at least not yet. So like you said, 653 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,599 if you're if your guy, if you give Tank, let's 654 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,720 call him one hundred and forty pounder, and let's call 655 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,519 it Jake. You know, a one ninety pounder that's still 656 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,039 a pretty wide spread and weight that's still fifty pounds. 657 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,720 Last I checked my math. Oh yes, correct, So they'll 658 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,480 have to figure that situation now. But again, it would 659 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,480 be an exhibition, and I do agree with Jake Paul 660 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,559 from one standpoint. Whatever you think about it, it's two 661 00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,720 big names. It would probably create quite a bit of 662 00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,240 attention in the mainstream and money, and at the end 663 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 of the day, it is about the money. But they 664 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,759 both have other things they got to do. First, obviously, 665 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640 Jake's fighting the U Bank fight and and Lamar Roach 666 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,640 is having his second opportunity to fight the thing. 667 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: And the other thing is there is a legitimate, legitimate 668 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,480 fight coming with Julio Cesar Chavez Junior at cruiserweight. And 669 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,359 then you're going back to something that again is farcical 670 00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,279 with I'm going to have an exhibition with a guy 671 00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,000 who's sixty or seventy pounds less. If that ever happened. 672 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720 All he said, by the way, is we're talking about it, 673 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:04,640 and it might happen. 674 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: Who knows well the actual cause we're working on it 675 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:09,839 behind the scenes to make that happen. 676 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,079 Speaker 1: It's not behind the scenes anymore though. If you're talking. 677 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,079 Speaker 2: Obviously that's a fight where the obviously that's a fight 678 00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:17,359 where the fans are going to win, and it's going 679 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,599 to be the biggest event of the year. We're working 680 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,160 on the weight it will be an It. 681 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Is most likely going to be the biggest event of 682 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,160 the year, Canello Crawford as we all know that obvious. 683 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,559 All right, So, uh, speaking of that undercard, you have 684 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,759 dug around and found out something about the Paul Chavez 685 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:38,319 Junior undercard that was supposed to have and intriguing Floyd 686 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:42,400 Schofield fight. It still may have Floyd Schofield on the undercard. 687 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,960 What have you found out real quick? 688 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, Schofield was of course supposed to challenge of course 689 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,359 Stevenson for the WBC lightweight title on one of the 690 00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:53,240 cards that took place in uh in uh, Saudi Arabia. 691 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,519 I think it was Saudi Arabia and it didn't happen. 692 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:58,400 Was it Saudi Arabia? Reminded me? Yes, but yes, what 693 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,519 the main event was. 694 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: Then sco Field got hurt. If I'm not mistaken, he 695 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,279 didn't get hurt. 696 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: He got sick during fight. 697 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: We can he got sick and they had and they 698 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,279 had the opponent was at Padley right that they had 699 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,720 on a few days notice, correct. 700 00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:13,799 Speaker 2: Okay, So Floyd Schofield obviously is now better from that situation, 701 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,400 and there was a lot of conversation being Golden Boy 702 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,640 and MVP, who are collaborating on this event because obviously 703 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,559 Jake Paul versus Chavez is the main event, but the 704 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,720 co feature is the Golden Boy fighter Zerto Ramirez in 705 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,599 his mandatory against Janiel Dordkos, And you know, they've been 706 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,920 working together, so you know, why not make a fight 707 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,480 between two of our guys. So Schofield was looking for 708 00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,519 a fight after pulling out due to illness against your corps. 709 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,440 And MVP is a promoter for Lucas Body, who was 710 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,880 an up and coming lightweight as well, who was probably 711 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,559 best known right now because he had that absolutely monstrous 712 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,279 knock out of the Air last year where he put 713 00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:48,960 Ashton Silve to sleep in one of the sickest knockouts 714 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,839 I've ever seen in my entire life. And so they 715 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,799 were looking to make that match, and so they were 716 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,000 pretty far down the road and in the end, uh, 717 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,039 the Body camp was like, you know, they were not 718 00:32:58,119 --> 00:32:59,880 happy with the money. It was less money than they 719 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,640 were getting for a different for different fights, and at 720 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,359 the end they just didn't They decided, you know, it's 721 00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:05,920 not worth the effort to do this if we're not 722 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,759 going to get paid, you know, more than what we 723 00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:10,119 would normally get paid, So that is not happening. But 724 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,680 so what I am told is that the plan is 725 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,200 to still keep Schofield on that card. I guess Golden 726 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,640 Boy has a slot on the show and they're looking 727 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,640 to match him up with Tevin Farmer. Whether that will 728 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,039 get done or not, or they'll go to some other opponent. 729 00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:24,920 You know, it's still not you know, not done yet. 730 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,359 But if it is Tevin Farmer, that's a that's a 731 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,559 solid fight. You can't argue with that. Schofield's never fought 732 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,119 anybody on the same level of Tevin Farmer, you know, 733 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,920 even close to that. In my opinion. He's a former 734 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,079 champion at one thirty, and people might look at his 735 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:38,960 record and say, well, Tevin Farmer, you know, he's old. 736 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720 He's got eight losses, he's lost three fights in a row. Yeah, 737 00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:44,440 if you watch the fights, you know, you'll know that 738 00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:46,920 this is a real fighter. He's got two extremely close 739 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,880 losses to William Zepaida, one fight where he scored a 740 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240 knockdown that a lot of people thought he won. The 741 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,319 second fight was very close. I thought that that that's 742 00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:57,319 a pay to eke both of them out. But nonetheless 743 00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,759 those were his last two fights, and before that he 744 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:03,000 gave a super close fight, also highly competitive. Didn't didn't 745 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,759 get the victory, nor did I think he deserved it, 746 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,599 but it was very competitive against Raymond Moretia, who since 747 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,280 then has gone on and won the IBF Interim title 748 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,800 in his most recent fight. So this is Scofield stepping 749 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,599 up against a very solid, very tricky, very experienced quality 750 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,079 guy with a good chin and a and a really 751 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,119 high IQ and knows how to fight. And so you're 752 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,719 not going to get in the ring with Tevin Farmer 753 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,559 and bullshit your way through that kind of fight. You 754 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,559 better come prepared. And so if they can finalize that, 755 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,360 I think that would be actually a very interesting addition 756 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,639 to the undercard of what at the moment is sort 757 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,559 of like a farcical sort of you know, carnival kind 758 00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:40,400 of fight between Chabas and Jake. And on top of that, 759 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,039 this is not related to the the debt card that 760 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,880 is with with Jake, Paul and chob Is, but another 761 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,400 fight that's somewhat interesting that Golden Boy is working on. 762 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000 This would be on a different show this would be 763 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,360 for August second in Chicago on his own. Would be 764 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,239 a really good matchup in my opinion, a junior walterweight 765 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,679 fight between Kenneth Simms Junior and Oscar Duarte. Now they 766 00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,400 were supposed to fight previously, but Kenneth sim suffered a 767 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,480 knee injury and had to pull out and they switched 768 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,719 up the opponent. Now he's better and they're going to 769 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,400 look to try to put that back together. When it 770 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440 was made the first time, it was supposed to be 771 00:35:14,519 --> 00:35:17,400 a WBA titled eliminator. I would imagine if they were 772 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,039 able to finalize this fight again that it would once 773 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,679 again carry that type of designation. But that's a really 774 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,000 solid fight between two not like the number one and 775 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:29,960 number two contenders in the division, but two fighters who 776 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,159 are good, who give the one hundred and forty pound 777 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:34,480 weight class a lot of depth, who are not going 778 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:36,880 to be easy out for anybody. That's a fight that 779 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,480 I really like. 780 00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: All right. Again, that is for August, so stay tuned 781 00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:47,159 on that as well from the Golden Boys show that 782 00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,639 will be happening in Chicago, and that's going to lead 783 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,480 us to our nostalgia and we want to let you 784 00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:55,960 know that. You can go to the YouTube page for 785 00:35:56,039 --> 00:36:00,920 the nostalgia. As we're on the anniversary Dan Rayphiel Gotty 786 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,039 Ward one, which was maybe eighteenth, two thousand and two, 787 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,880 twenty three years ago as we sit here on this 788 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,960 recap podcast in twenty twenty five. So go watch the 789 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,199 Gotti Ward first of the installment, which we didn't know. 790 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,639 We didn't know there were going to be two epic fights, 791 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,159 much less three epic fights. But they need to go 792 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,679 watch us on how it organically turned into one of 793 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:26,639 the greatest rivalries, certainly in the last twenty five years, 794 00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:28,679 if not ever in boxing. I don't want to give 795 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,840 too much away on what we're talking about, but go 796 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,599 watch it on the YouTube page. We relive got Award 797 00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:36,280 one and it's worth it right, real quick, definitely worth it. 798 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: Anything related to Gotty Ward is worth it is. I 799 00:36:40,039 --> 00:36:41,840 don't think there should be any hesitation to say it's 800 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,559 one of the greatest trilogies in the history of boxing. 801 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,679 This is not twenty five years or ten years, or 802 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,920 thirty years or fifty years period. It's one of the 803 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,639 greatest rivalries of all time. I mean, they weren't for titles, 804 00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:53,880 but they were unbelievable fights at least the first fight 805 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000 in the third fight, Fight of the year type fights, 806 00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:59,360 all time fights, legendary fights, beloved fights. So you don't 807 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,039 need the caveat out of the last twenty five years. 808 00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:03,400 It's just a fucking great rivalry and the first fight 809 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,239 is a spectacular, sinsational. 810 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: Go watch it on YouTube. Again, we're pushing you to 811 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,159 the YouTube page. Also, we're saying happy birthday to Sugar 812 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,199 Ray Leonard. We expound on that his birthday this weekend. 813 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,719 Ray about to be seventy years old, sixty nine years 814 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,039 old as we do this pod, but go check us 815 00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,159 out in longer form. Again, we're wanting you to go 816 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,880 check our video content out. See us talking about Ray 817 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,480 Leonard's career and the Four Kings real quick as we 818 00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:34,440 wish him a happy birthday. And also on the YouTube page, 819 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,519 we got another anniversary of Parnell Whittaker and Azuma Nelson, 820 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,639 which again is Hall of Fame fighters that met now 821 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,199 in nineteen ninety anniversary weekend now this weekend of that 822 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,119 fight is what we got. I mean, you got a lot. 823 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,719 They're on the YouTube page to go and watch savages, 824 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,440 to go subscribe and be part of with the nostalgia 825 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,920 here that we're doing, and again we make another rem 826 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,719 that next Sunday night. Next Sunday night to the twenty fifth, 827 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,559 we will go live and do the recap pod first 828 00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:11,880 on the YouTube page because we're also talking the anniversary 829 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,639 of Muhammad Ali Sonny Listen two. It was brief and 830 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,519 it was controversial. We'll do all of that next Sunday 831 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,840 night on the YouTube page. It'll be first up live 832 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,320 on the YouTube page and then you'll be able to 833 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,840 obviously hear it later on the usual time span of 834 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,519 the pod feed, but we want you to be with 835 00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:31,280 this live next Tuesday. You never know what's going to happen. 836 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,599 We take the live comments, the whole bit with the nostalgia. 837 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,719 Other than that, we've recapped the action this weekend, the news, 838 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,840 anything else before we embark on another week. Dan Rayfael, 839 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,880 you are as well follow er subscribe on this podcast feed, Apple, Spreaker, 840 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,239 Spotify again the YouTube pages up there, go subscribe there 841 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,920 to help us get the like button there as well. 842 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:55,760 Share this stuff out. We always love it. Right now 843 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,239 we are good for Dan Rayfield. I am merely TJ 844 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,199 Reeves coming off, but weekend here with The Fight Break 845 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,280 United Recap Podcast Yeah,