Speaker 1: Well off of a weekend that has seen something happened
to Johnny Fisher as in koh in the British Matchroom
Heavyweight made of and he was knocked out. We're ready
to recap that. We're ready to recap the air quotes
Junior Middleweight showdown with Sir Hey Boachuk. He did win
over Michael Fox. We're going to talk about that. We've
got plenty of news, we got a little bit of
nostalgia references including a birthday and much more. It is
the Fight Freaks Unite Recap podcast here on the podfeed.
I am merely the somewhat competent host TJ. Reeves. He
is our insider Dan Rayphiel good to be back with
you Fight Freaks. You unit as his substack and newsletter,
Big Dan. We come off the weekend. Look, we're honest
with the audience. This was not big time world championship
heavy interest, but we're here. We're here for the savages.
We give you a recap of what was there. There
will be bigger fights in coming weeks that we will have,
but we're we're just letting you know that we're here
and we've got something to promote. A couple moments. First
of all, how are you, How are things off the weekend?
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a quiet Saturday for boxing.
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the bag on what we're doing next Sunday night? Should
we just tell them now and not make them wait
till the end?
Speaker 2: Do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: You always love dessert first, and I do too, especially
when I was younger, when I was a little kid. No, no, no.
When I was a little kid, I had to have
a bite at the cake or the ice cream or
something before we ate the meal. Sometimes I rarely got
away with it. But this is like dessert for later.
So next Sunday night, it is going to be Memorial
Day weekend. Next Sunday night, we're gonna do it live.
We're gonna do the recamp pod live because also Big
Dan on YouTube. We're gonna do it live. Also it
is the sixtieth anniversary next Sunday Night of arguably the
most controversy. It is the most controversial heavyweight title fight
of Mhammad Ali's career. It's one of the most controversial
fights in boxing history. Was it truly a punch? Was
it a knockout for Ali over Sunny listed in the rematch?
Because there's a lot of belief, even sixty years later,
that fight was fixed for reasons that we'll explain and extole,
big controversy back in the nineteen sixties. Will relive that
as part of the lie show that we're doing exclusively
on YouTube. First. The pod will be out at a
later time. But to see us and to hear all
about the recap, go find us on YouTube. That's the
best I can do. I'm telling you where it's gonna be.
And we'll talk some Ali Ali Ali and the craziness
of how the heavyweight championship fight ended up in a
youth center hockey rink Rayfhael in Lewiston, Maine, back in
nineteen sixty five in front of fewer than twenty five
hundred people. Mind you for that title fight, we'll do
that next week, all right, So let's get into it
with the understanding again that we basically had two fight
cards that were covering. So London's card in the afternoon
US time was the Mattroom main event. And a funny
thing happened on the way to Johnny Fisher. Oh I
got a whole lot better.
Speaker 2: What a segue from Muhammad Ali to Johnny Johnny Fisher.
Speaker 1: Do we need binoculars to look down on the segway?
I think we might. A funny thing happened on the
way Rafael to Johnny Fisher. Looking better In the rematch
with Dave Allen, he not only did not look better,
he got you love to say it, go ahead and
say it. He got knocked the what go ahead? Say it?
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't get knocked the fuck out.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: No, yes, yeah, but it was the corner that threw
in the towel. When I think knocked the fuck out,
you're on the canvas for a ten pounds splattered.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but he was finished the first he was, uh, okay,
what happened here? I saw it. I'll tell you, I'm
not even sure twenty four hours later that I understand
what happened. I know what happened.
Speaker 2: Johnny Fisher showed that he's not the next thing. I
mean I didn't think he was anyway, but he's now
shown that he's not because he fought a stupid fight.
He fought a terrible fight. And you know, I'll give
David Allen some credit because he obviously got the job done.
But this was a fight set up on a tee
for Johnny Fisher. He was any kind of serious prospect
or up and coming contender that you take care of
your business. He fought David Allen in December in Saudi Arabia.
He got knocked down in the fifth round. He did survive,
and by the way, it was a very fun fight
to watch. I mean, these are two guys that come
in and just come to throw bombs and take your
head off. Not a lot of fanciness here, not a
lot of technique or strategy. And that's part of David
Allen's problem why he hasn't gotten further in his career,
because he does have some ability, and it's the same
thing that Johnny Fisher is showing that he doesn't fight
in a smart manner. But nonetheless, when they had their
first fight back in December, they went to ten round
distance and it was Johnny Fisher that got the split
decision victory, much to the consternation of many, because most
people that I saw and that I thought about, dot
that David Allen deserved the decision. So, okay, they do
a rematch. Now they go to London, which is the
hometown for Johnny Fisher. He brings out his big crowd
to the Copper Box Arena in London and his British
countryman David Allen, who, by the way, they've sparred together
a ton of rounds. They're friends with each other, they
have a lot of respect each other. They're both very
likable guys. I mean, whatever you think about their boxing ability,
they're you know, they have you know that every man
sort of are about them. The fans enjoy them, and
they're they're hard working, just not at a certain level.
And Johnny Fisher showed that he's just not at that
level because even though he was winning the fight, it
seemed to me, I don't know what the official scorecards
were because they didn't we didn't get a chance to
see them. But you know, through four rounds, he's probably
up three to one on the cards, or should have
been anyway. And then in the fifth round, like what
happened in the first fight, he got dropped. I mean,
and that was a hard knockdown. He got knocked down
twice actually in the round, but once was the one
was the left hook or whatever that punch was was
a just a tremendous shot. He did beat the count,
but it was not looking good. The route is coming
to an end and David Allen is just launching shots
and there was one particular punch where it was that
sort of head rattling eyes up in the back of
the head. Yeah, just before the bell rang, Like the
sequence was still going when the bell rang, and at
that moment where David Allen is falling to the canvas again,
he would have his corner throwing in the towel, and
the referee of course recognizes the stoppage and waves off
the fight, so it was officially the time was three
minutes of the fifth round, so right at the end
of the round. But even if they had given him
the one minute in between, I'm not sure he would
have been able to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know that he beats the count. He got
clipped with the left first and then was like knock
out in slow motion, going down in Allen right, yes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like you said, it goes down, it goes
down as a TKO. But maybe he would have stayed
down for the count. But the point is that was
a terrible, terrible loss for Johnny Fisher. It was a
big win for David Allen, who's in the twilight of
his career, probably his biggest win. I guess if you
take a look at his overall record, and you know
he's fought a lot of guys. The points that he
made in the post fight was, you know, I fought
world title challengers, I fought Olympic gold medalists, I fought
other contenders, and so maybe I haven't won those fights,
but I have a hell of a lot more of
experience and have been in the ring and been competitive
at times with fighters who are way better than anybody
that Johnny Fisher has ever fought, you know, who can
count you know, David Allen as his best opponent at
this point. Uh So it's a it's a good win
for for David Allen. You know, it is a fun
fight to watch and what happens going forward. Eddie Pearn,
who is the promoter for the fight, made the point
in terms of Johnny that you know, okay, technically now
they're one and one because they each have a victory,
but they won't do a trilogy. In the next fight.
They need to get Johnny Fisher back on track to
see what he can do. Who knows what that will be,
but I would suspect they'll bring Johnny back, you know,
in the next you know, he'll get him a little
rest obviously after that situation getting stopped, and his next
fight will be just you know, let's kind of get
the confidence back. Let's to get in the ring and
do something and then if everything is okay after that,
then I suspect, as Eddie talked about, they'll try to
do a third fight and you know, give him one
more opportunities, you know, get one uh, you know, another
big crowd, another obviously another good payday and if he
can win, you know, maybe put himself back on track.
If he loses, you know, I'm not want to say
his career is over, but it's certainly over in terms
of like thinking he might have a chance to do anything.
I think it's over already.
Speaker 1: And you can make the straw argument it's over right
now after what.
Speaker 2: That doesn't it's over from that standpoint, But it doesn't
mean he can't go on and make a living and
make fun fights and you know, get to a certain level,
maybe a British title something like that. But you know,
not every heavyweight or any fighter has created the same
They doesn't mean you can't go and make a living
and entertain your crowd and and uh and bring some
entertainment and some drama. But the notion that he's going
to get to the world class level, to me, that
ain't happening. That's my opinion. I don't I don't wish
bad on the guy. If you can do it, great,
I mean, that would be wonderful to see you like that.
Speaker 1: Can I confess I was not watching live, but I
went back and relived it and saw it, and you
sent me the word fraud. I mean, he looked like
this looks like he's been a fraud with the way
that he got knocked out, and he's got to demonstrate
in a subsequent fight or two that he's not. And
right now they're big question marks about him. Question. So
there's the Matchroom main event. We'll have a little news
off of what went in the ring, what went on
in the ring and promotional wise for Mattroom in a
couple of moments. First though, we swing all the way
from London to the California coast to Commerce, California and
the Commerce Casino. That's where the main event for the
three sixty Promotions battle on UFC Fight Pass saw Sir
Hey Bullatchuck win over Michael Fox by decision not unexpected.
You and I both had that accurately predicted on the
bet Us show. Bulletchuck was more aggressive, landing more Fox,
crafty taller didn't do much in the fight from from
what I saw, and uh and so Bullechuck wins. Now,
the interesting thing this was not a junior middleweight fight.
Elaborate into that he gets the win, is he gonna
now still stay at junior middleweight one fifty four or
what's going on here? Because he was significantly hot.
Speaker 2: He I mean, you had Virgil Artis, you know, who
was a guy who had fought Bulletchuck in that great
fight making comments to Eddy Hearn about the fact that
or not Teddy hear and I'm sorry to Tom Loffler
that he was not at one hundred and fifty four pounds,
And what Virgil and everybody else that follows boxing should
understand has he's not in a title fight, is a
ten round, non title in between fight like they've done
for a century in boxing, just not maybe recently. His
guys take fights that are not on the exact weight.
There is zero reason for him to make that weight.
So the contract weight, from what the three sixty people
tell me, was one hundred and sixty pounds, So he
came in at one hundred and fifty nine and change
his opponent Michael Fox, who's not you know, is coming
out from ulterweight basically or you know, came in at
one fifty four point something on his own to be lighter,
to be quicker, maybe, but that doesn't change the fact
that it's not a Bolchuk with that overweight, he's still
the number one contender in the WBC for the one
hundred and fifty four pounds title, and when that opportunity
arises and he can, you know, go into the fight
against a top contender and or for a title, he'll
be at one fifty four. But so the fact that
this was a fight over the weight that's totally common.
I think it might have been a little confusing to
some people because he was closer to one sixty and
Michael Fox was closer to one to fifty four that
he gave up six pounds basically, which I didn't know
if that's the greatest thing to do, but it didn't
make a difference. This was on paper. As I said beforehand,
this was the kind of fight where you can't have
Boatchuk sit around and not fight. The title shot is
going to happen if he doesn't lose, because he is
now at the official mandatory. But you can't just sit
on the shelf and not fight, and that title shot
is not like it's happening next month or and two months,
earn three months or in four months or whenever. Because
the Sebastian fandor who is the Dobec champion is going
to be fighting this summer. He's going to be fighting
Tim Zuo in a rematch, and so at the very
very earliest, you're talking about the last part of the
year where maybe he would get that fight, and I'm
not even sure exactly when the mandatory is due. I
don't think it is due just yet anyway, So it's
better for a fighter like Boachuk to get in there,
get some rounds and just you know, you know, do
your job and be a boxer. So he went in
there with Michael Fox, you know, a solid veteran, but
not a guy with any particular power on his shots.
He's got a very low knockout rate. You know, he's
usually lost when he stepped up. But from the standpoint
of the matchmaking, you don't want to just have him
blow a guy out in one round and then stillst
it on the shelf for ten months or however long
it's going to be. So they got him a guy
that's extremely durable in Michael Fox, and so to nobody's surprise,
they did go the distance. But it wasn't like the
bow chick barely had a break a sweat. From what
I saw. Now, I didn't see the full fight. I
don't subscribe to UFC five pass. I watched, you know,
some extended highlights of it on YouTube, and so it
looked to me from what I did see about a
twelve minute or so of the fight, he had no problems,
barely broke a sweat. He wins the fight ninety seven
ninety three on two score cards, ninety eight ninety two.
Never a moment where you thought that Michael Fox is
going to have a chance to do anything in terms
of actually winning. He wasn't going to win at least
six rounds. He never came close from what I saw,
to scoring any kind of knockout punch whatsoever. But he
does have a good chance. So Boachuk, who was the
more aggressive fighter not a surprise, landed some punches, but
they didn't have any dramatic effect on Fox. Maybe also
because bochuk was you know, you know, he was maybe
trying to get some rounds in and as long as
he could landed shots, it wasn't necessarily looking to get
the guy out of there. I can't speak to that,
but the bottom line was this or just you know, straightforward,
the better guy wins a decision and moves on and
he'll fight for the title, and Michael Fox will continue
to get fights, probably because he still has a very
good record. He still can pose some trickiness to an opponent,
and he still got a long reach, and he still
has a good chin, and he can still have a career.
But he's not at that certain level where he's going
to give the top contenders any real cause for concern.
And that's exactly what happened in this fight.
Speaker 1: All right, So you successfully explained it may be another
contender fight before he fights Pudor, or maybe he will
just sit tight and it might be a while before
he gets a shot, and then again it maybe one
of those WBC interim things later on down.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind also that just because he's the mandatory
in the WBC, if one of the other champions who's
looking for a challenger decides, hey, like maybe we can
make a deal with Boachuk, they can go make a
deal with anybody else. I mean, they're in the mandatory
position for the WBC, but it doesn't preclude him from
being offered a fight against one of the other champions
that might come up and be something that's appealing to that.
Speaker 1: All right, So now to the news. There's the recaps
from the weekend. Again. You know, some weeks we have
stellar and lots of championship fights and wild stuff, but
we just gave you what we had there in England
and in California to work with. So to the news
on the match Room Show and in the ring, they
announced that Jack Catterall will move up to welterweight and
will now be fighting Harlem u Bank in a welterweight
main event in July. Tell me more about the date,
where it is and what got confirmed.
Speaker 2: So I actually had reported this before it was announced,
but they did announce it, as you said. During the broadcast.
Mattrim also out a press release announcing in particular, so
it's taking place July fifth, on his own of course,
a match Room Boxing main event. It will take place
at the AO Arena in Manchester, England, which is Jack
Catterall's home region. He comes from just you know, a town,
you know, fifteen twenty minutes outside of Manchester, so it's
going to be his hometown crowd. He has fought there
before and he's moving up to welterwight. He's coming off
of the loss a close loss a split decision that
took place in Manchester at a different arena in February,
where he lost to Arnold Barbosa in a kind of
an upset. That was the fight that helped Barbosa really
locked down the opportunity, you know, to get the fight
that he ultimately lost to Devin Haney a couple of
weeks ago. So Caterall looking for new life. You know
that the ship has sailed. I guess for him at
Junior Walter Wade, he couldn't get the job done against Barbosa. Obviously,
we don't have to relitigate everything that happened with the
back and forth of the two fights against Josh Taylor
where he got, you know, the big controversial loss, and
then he obviously avenged it. But Josh had already been
relieved of the titles at that point, had lost at
Tia Fimo, So it was satisfying I guess from the
same point that he avenged it, but not so much
because he didn't get any belts out of it. So
now he's going in the ring with Harlem. You Bank,
you say you Bank. That's an awfully familiar name to me. Obviously,
he is twenty one to oh with nine knockouts. He
is thirty one years old, not a young fighter by
any means. He is the nephew of Chris hu Bank Senior,
the first cousin of Chris hu Bank Junior. That is
the familial a relation there, and Chris Hubank Senior has
been very instrumental in guiding his career. He may have
had a falling out which seems to be repaired anyway
for the time being with his son, but he's been
very associated and involved with his nephew's career. So that
is that is that fight. So they'll make a big
thing about it. I have to be honest, I don't
I saw this fight. It kind of came out of
the blue to me. I mean, I guess they're matching
up some nice names, but I've said this about certain
other fights. I looked at the matchup, and I mean,
if you want to make the fight, so be it.
From an entertainment value perspective, I just don't see this
fight being a good fight.
Speaker 1: We canep it real and true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, catterall, you know, he's a hell of a boxer,
but he doesn't typically make good fights. That's just the reality.
He can watch any number of Harlem you Bank makes
maybe better fights than him, but there's not been the
ones to write home about, so you know, they'll do
their thing. I sure they'll drag a nice crowd there
because you know, the Brits are great fans. They'll turn
out for their guy, Jack Catterrell, and I'm sure you Bank,
given his family name and everything, he'll draw some folks
also and they'll put on the fight and they'll winner.
You know, we'll probably move on to a bigger opportunity
because it is, you know, two good names, and Caterroll
is a guy that's been in the ring with some
of the very top fighters in the sport, even though
not in the welterweight division. So he's trying to make,
you know, make a splash, I guess in a new
weight class, and you know, let's see what he can do.
And for you Bank, this would be by far and
away his biggest win if he could grab it, because
he's got a nice record, but there's not a lot
of names they would recognize. His biggest win is probably
his last fight, where he knocked out a tenth round
knockout against Tyrone McKenna, who's a veteran who's been in
the ring with some good fighters over the years, and
so that's what this is, they announce said on on
the weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, so speaking, why don't we stick with it?
Speaking of match room, they also have made the announcement
that on the un fourteenth, Richardson Hitchins George Cambosa's card,
there now is an undercard fight involving Andy Kruz as
they move him along, talk more about that being announced
as part of the undercard while we're just here on
the matchroom subject.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know if they've been looking to get
him in that type of fight, to get him into
a position to fight for you know, something of significance,
either a title liminated or even a title start that
they could get it, but the title shot was not available.
So Andy Kruz as people, if you followed the sport,
he's only five to zero with two knockouts, but he's
a tremendous talent and he's not a guy that needs
babying and needs a tremendous amount of you know fights,
or took a four round fight even he turned pro,
and I think it was at a ten rounder even
because he's a legendary amateur. He's a twenty twenty Cuban
Olympic gold medalist, if you take it, that's just one
acco Lady's won everything in the amagurs, World Championships and
Pan American Games, and you know, you name the top
tournament and Andy Kruz has probably won it. He's got
the wins over Keshan Davis and the amateurs, including in
the Olympics. And he is probably the best up and
coming fighter in boxing. If you can even call him
a prospect. That's kind of one of those dicey things.
He's twenty nine, he only has the five professional fights.
I'm not going to say he's better than or he's
alike to him, but it's the way they're moving him
in the the not needing you know, a bunch of
like smaller six rounders and four rounders and eight rounders,
but they can get right to the real action. It's
very similar to like when Lomachenko became y. It's that
type of situation. So he goes into this matchup where
they've made a IBF lightweight title eliminated for the number
one position, so the winner will become the mandatory against
a Japanese fighter named Hironri Maschito Mashiro, who's seventeen to
one and one, not with a big resume, but it
will be a final eliminator. It will take place on
the under card. It'll be the co feature June fourteenth
at the Theater at Madison Square Garden. The de Zone
card that night is headlined by the New York fighter
Richardson Hitchins, who's defending the IBF Junior Walter WA title
against George Cambosa. So this will be the co feature
on that night. And you know, it's a great opportunity
for Andy Cruz to you know, put himself in a
chance to fight for world title. It's obviously a great
opportunity for his opponent a Shiro also, you know, Missiro
is not well known. But I like Andy Kruse. He
you know, I got a chance to watch Andy Cruis
for the first time in person last summer when he
fought on the under cart in Los Angeles when Crawford
fought Magriimov, and he had a couple of very brief
moments in that fight where he had some trouble, but
he showed a lot of veteran like savvy to get
through it. And I think he's better for it, and
he's a really good fighter, and we'll see if he
can take the next step.
Speaker 1: All right, So there's the matchroom news for that coming
up in June, as well as the fight card in July.
All right, we left you heading into the weekend talking
about when is the Canelo Crawford fight going to be?
You said, because I pay attention to you, and I
read my substack the fight for eaching a substack hold
on here. It may still be on Friday night, September twelve.
It may not be. Yeah, you said, maybe it could
stay on there, but you said you would rather see
it in the T Mobile Arena if you had your druthers,
better perse, better environment, blah blah blah for Saturday, September thirteenth.
Alas one Turkey alask the head of the Saudi Entertainment
Authorities boxing part of what they're doing has now tweeted
or xed or posted or whatever we want to call it.
That In fact, I'll just read it. We have confirmed
the promoter for Canelo versus Crawford will be SILA for
Rio Odds season, and the broadcaster we have not decided,
but the date will be September thirteenth, more details soon.
Now in reading that statement, we don't know who the
broadcaster is and he did not again say Las Vegas
when he had the opportunity to say Las Vegas. So
what do you make of this update?
Speaker 2: Well, number one, it's Sella. That is the company that
is that's part of the that's like the subsidiary of
the Saudi Private Investment Fund that handles all of the
things related to sports. It stands for sports, entertainment and leisure,
or I take it back Saudi Entertainment and Leisure, and
they oversee whatever you know, read season events, come in concerts,
sporting events, et cetera, and that they will act I
guess as the official promoter. And the reason why that's
caused a lot of people to sort of raise the
eyebrow was because prior to this announcement that was made
by Turkey on Sunday was if you go back before
when they announced the fight in the ring after Canello
Skull and they had Crawford and Canelo square off with
each other in the ring, it was like right at
that and that it was like a couple hours later
where he put up on social media that you know,
I forget how he phrased exactly, but basically, like, you know,
my good friend Dana White and and our partners at
TKO will promote the fight. Okay, that seemed logical. I
mean that was what everybody was speculating as soon as
the fight was made, that with their deal that they
had announced back a few weeks ago or a month ago,
that they were going to be doing this you know,
boxing series with the Saudi's, that it would make sense
to bring them in at the highest level right off
the bat to kind of kickstart things and they would
promote this fight. Now, they're the ones that Azai reported
were instrumental in making a deal with Netflix to do
the event. But that's clearly not the case anymore. I
don't know exactly what happened there, but if there's a problem,
if there's not a problem. All I know is this
clearly the way that Turkey phrased his thing that he
posted that Dana and TK are not involved in this
Crawford and Canelo fight. It is going to be on Saturday,
September thirteenth, and the location is still not announced, nor
is the broadcaster, So that raises a lot of questions.
Maybe they'll make a deal on their own with Netflix
and they'll go on Saturday. Maybe it'll be on pay
per view. Who knows it would be the zone. I
can't imagine that they would do an event of this magnitude,
And unlike what they did with Canelo Skull and Ryan
Garcia against Romero in the Times Square Card and also
with Chris Ubank Junior and Connor Ben, those were pay
per views that were only available on his own at
least in the United States. I think the Ben and u
Bank one was available also on Sky Sports Box Office
in the U right, but in the United States is
what I'm thinking about, which is the market for Crawford,
And of course, you know, because this is where they
fight for the most part, and Crawford's American and Canelo,
you know, basically is not. He's not American, but he's
fought most of his big fights here. You know, he
spends a lot of time living in San Diego. I mean,
it's his adopted country in many ways. Anyway, here's the
thing about that, if they do that pay per view,
I have to believe they'll go. And besides being available
on his own, I would imagine it also I would
think they would also try to work out deals and
make it available so you can buy it on your
normal television, like lots of people still do within Demand
or PPV dot com or also have it available on
you know, the various satellite services, and you know maybe
even like on Prime Video or on ESPN Plus or
roku orerever you want to talk about it. But he
he created a lot of questions because let me tell you,
I'm not saying he did. Nobody's saying that Turkey al
Sheik did this on purpose. But there's a lot of
people that are pissed off because they announced the fight
on September twelfth, and a lot of people went out
and bought plane tickets or booked hotels. And you know,
though the official tickets weren't on sale, because the Allegiant
Stadium has season ticket holders that can sell tickets to events,
were already buying the tickets that those people would be promised,
And so it just becomes a bit of a of
a of a mess because.
Speaker 1: And again he hasn't said whether it's even staying in
Las Vegas, Like the likelihood is it will be there,
but he hasn't announced it.
Speaker 2: I'm not i mean, I'm not I'm not so sure
about that. I mean because of the way that they
do things. I mean, I wouldn't have guessed they're going
to put a boxing match at the Louis Armstrong Stadium.
I don't think anybody had, you know, uh, Times Square
and there Bengal card. I mean, they do do out
of the box kind of thing. So I would say
anybody that's thinking about booking a flight, a hotel, trying
to buy a ticket, just take a chill.
Speaker 1: Let hire beware that you are not promised anything right now.
Speaker 2: Exact any By the way, anybody that actually bought a
ticket for Allegiant on on the on the twelfth, you're
a fucking idiot because there were no real tickets available
because they hadn't gone on selling yet and they hadn't
even announced the ticketings for it. You were buying it
from a season ticket holder at the at the.
Speaker 1: But who knows one other thing that I will add
while we while we keep it real. Uh, you've expressed this,
I'm gonna echo it. It would be smart tactically to
give this back to the fans that subscribe with Netflix
and not have to pay the pay per view prices.
Because again you made people pay whomever paid for Canelo
and William Skull, which was putred. You should have probably
offered refunds or future discounts or whatever for whoever paid.
I don't. I mean, it's definitely buyer beware.
Speaker 2: So what's the saying, he pays your money, it takes
your chances.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But at this point, the Netflix thing would
be a great give back. It would be a great
olive branch to the fans and have massive, massive audience
that you can sell advertising for. Listen to me, making
sense from a business standpoint, Let's see, Let's see what
they choose to do. They haven't announced what they're doing
with Canelo and Crawford yet, and we have time for that.
All right, A couple more things the Jake Paul Julio
Cesar Chavez Junior Press, France midweek last week. Jake Paul
was still mentioning about something you talked about before, something
that has been out there that he is still interested
in an exhibition air quotes with Tank Davis. All right,
so how much legs does this have because Tank still
has a fight coming up, a rematch with Lamont Roach.
Speaker 2: But tell me more, Well, remember before Tank Davis had
the draw against Lamont Roach, and after the fight between
Jake Paul and Canelo sort of disintegrated, there was discussion
that Jake Paul and Gervonta Davis would do an exhibition match,
and then, of course, and I broke that story. And
then you know, he got the draw against Roach and
exercised the rematch, So the notion that that would take
place next was out the window. And so therefore Jake
Paul went to his next available guy and he made
the deal for this pay per view fight against Julio
Caesar Chavez Junior that will take place, you know, next month,
and they were doing the press conference in Los Angeles
to announce that and also introduce some of the undercard
stuff for that fight, and at that particular event, and
as you know, like they're going to do the rematch
being Tank and Roach, supposedly it's going to happen in
August on a PBC pay per view again, but they're
still this notion and he was asked about this in
the media scrum. I watched the video of it where
he was asked about, you know, if there was still
legs or truth to this thing about him and Givonda Davis,
and he told the press straight up, Yeah, we're still
talking about it behind the scenes, but it would probably
be an exhibition. They're talking about what the lake of
the weight limitations are because remember, I mean, it is
kind of preposterous.
Speaker 1: I'm stupid. I'll say they're seventy they're sixty seventy pounds apart.
Speaker 2: Jake Paul fights as a two hundred pound dish cruiserweight
slash have you when he went off even well over
two hundred when he fought Tyson. He's fought generally in
like the one nineties. Tank Davis is one hundred and
thirty five pound world champion. He has fought, you know,
in the one hundred and forty pound division, won a
belts a few years ago, a secondary title. Hasn't gone
up to fight any of the top guys at one
forty and at least not yet. So like you said,
if you're if your guy, if you give Tank, let's
call him one hundred and forty pounder, and let's call
it Jake. You know, a one ninety pounder that's still
a pretty wide spread and weight that's still fifty pounds.
Last I checked my math. Oh yes, correct, So they'll
have to figure that situation now. But again, it would
be an exhibition, and I do agree with Jake Paul
from one standpoint. Whatever you think about it, it's two
big names. It would probably create quite a bit of
attention in the mainstream and money, and at the end
of the day, it is about the money. But they
both have other things they got to do. First, obviously,
Jake's fighting the U Bank fight and and Lamar Roach
is having his second opportunity to fight the thing.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is there is a legitimate, legitimate
fight coming with Julio Cesar Chavez Junior at cruiserweight. And
then you're going back to something that again is farcical
with I'm going to have an exhibition with a guy
who's sixty or seventy pounds less. If that ever happened.
All he said, by the way, is we're talking about it,
and it might happen.
Speaker 2: Who knows well the actual cause we're working on it
behind the scenes to make that happen.
Speaker 1: It's not behind the scenes anymore though. If you're talking.
Speaker 2: Obviously that's a fight where the obviously that's a fight
where the fans are going to win, and it's going
to be the biggest event of the year. We're working
on the weight it will be an It.
Speaker 1: Is most likely going to be the biggest event of
the year, Canello Crawford as we all know that obvious.
All right, So, uh, speaking of that undercard, you have
dug around and found out something about the Paul Chavez
Junior undercard that was supposed to have and intriguing Floyd
Schofield fight. It still may have Floyd Schofield on the undercard.
What have you found out real quick?
Speaker 2: Well, Schofield was of course supposed to challenge of course
Stevenson for the WBC lightweight title on one of the
cards that took place in uh in uh, Saudi Arabia.
I think it was Saudi Arabia and it didn't happen.
Was it Saudi Arabia? Reminded me? Yes, but yes, what
the main event was.
Speaker 1: Then sco Field got hurt. If I'm not mistaken, he
didn't get hurt.
Speaker 2: He got sick during fight.
Speaker 1: We can he got sick and they had and they
had the opponent was at Padley right that they had
on a few days notice, correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Floyd Schofield obviously is now better from that situation,
and there was a lot of conversation being Golden Boy
and MVP, who are collaborating on this event because obviously
Jake Paul versus Chavez is the main event, but the
co feature is the Golden Boy fighter Zerto Ramirez in
his mandatory against Janiel Dordkos, And you know, they've been
working together, so you know, why not make a fight
between two of our guys. So Schofield was looking for
a fight after pulling out due to illness against your corps.
And MVP is a promoter for Lucas Body, who was
an up and coming lightweight as well, who was probably
best known right now because he had that absolutely monstrous
knock out of the Air last year where he put
Ashton Silve to sleep in one of the sickest knockouts
I've ever seen in my entire life. And so they
were looking to make that match, and so they were
pretty far down the road and in the end, uh,
the Body camp was like, you know, they were not
happy with the money. It was less money than they
were getting for a different for different fights, and at
the end they just didn't They decided, you know, it's
not worth the effort to do this if we're not
going to get paid, you know, more than what we
would normally get paid, So that is not happening. But
so what I am told is that the plan is
to still keep Schofield on that card. I guess Golden
Boy has a slot on the show and they're looking
to match him up with Tevin Farmer. Whether that will
get done or not, or they'll go to some other opponent.
You know, it's still not you know, not done yet.
But if it is Tevin Farmer, that's a that's a
solid fight. You can't argue with that. Schofield's never fought
anybody on the same level of Tevin Farmer, you know,
even close to that. In my opinion. He's a former
champion at one thirty, and people might look at his
record and say, well, Tevin Farmer, you know, he's old.
He's got eight losses, he's lost three fights in a row. Yeah,
if you watch the fights, you know, you'll know that
this is a real fighter. He's got two extremely close
losses to William Zepaida, one fight where he scored a
knockdown that a lot of people thought he won. The
second fight was very close. I thought that that that's
a pay to eke both of them out. But nonetheless
those were his last two fights, and before that he
gave a super close fight, also highly competitive. Didn't didn't
get the victory, nor did I think he deserved it,
but it was very competitive against Raymond Moretia, who since
then has gone on and won the IBF Interim title
in his most recent fight. So this is Scofield stepping
up against a very solid, very tricky, very experienced quality
guy with a good chin and a and a really
high IQ and knows how to fight. And so you're
not going to get in the ring with Tevin Farmer
and bullshit your way through that kind of fight. You
better come prepared. And so if they can finalize that,
I think that would be actually a very interesting addition
to the undercard of what at the moment is sort
of like a farcical sort of you know, carnival kind
of fight between Chabas and Jake. And on top of that,
this is not related to the the debt card that
is with with Jake, Paul and chob Is, but another
fight that's somewhat interesting that Golden Boy is working on.
This would be on a different show this would be
for August second in Chicago on his own. Would be
a really good matchup in my opinion, a junior walterweight
fight between Kenneth Simms Junior and Oscar Duarte. Now they
were supposed to fight previously, but Kenneth sim suffered a
knee injury and had to pull out and they switched
up the opponent. Now he's better and they're going to
look to try to put that back together. When it
was made the first time, it was supposed to be
a WBA titled eliminator. I would imagine if they were
able to finalize this fight again that it would once
again carry that type of designation. But that's a really
solid fight between two not like the number one and
number two contenders in the division, but two fighters who
are good, who give the one hundred and forty pound
weight class a lot of depth, who are not going
to be easy out for anybody. That's a fight that
I really like.
Speaker 1: All right. Again, that is for August, so stay tuned
on that as well from the Golden Boys show that
will be happening in Chicago, and that's going to lead
us to our nostalgia and we want to let you
know that. You can go to the YouTube page for
the nostalgia. As we're on the anniversary Dan Rayphiel Gotty
Ward one, which was maybe eighteenth, two thousand and two,
twenty three years ago as we sit here on this
recap podcast in twenty twenty five. So go watch the
Gotti Ward first of the installment, which we didn't know.
We didn't know there were going to be two epic fights,
much less three epic fights. But they need to go
watch us on how it organically turned into one of
the greatest rivalries, certainly in the last twenty five years,
if not ever in boxing. I don't want to give
too much away on what we're talking about, but go
watch it on the YouTube page. We relive got Award
one and it's worth it right, real quick, definitely worth it.
Speaker 2: Anything related to Gotty Ward is worth it is. I
don't think there should be any hesitation to say it's
one of the greatest trilogies in the history of boxing.
This is not twenty five years or ten years, or
thirty years or fifty years period. It's one of the
greatest rivalries of all time. I mean, they weren't for titles,
but they were unbelievable fights at least the first fight
in the third fight, Fight of the year type fights,
all time fights, legendary fights, beloved fights. So you don't
need the caveat out of the last twenty five years.
It's just a fucking great rivalry and the first fight
is a spectacular, sinsational.
Speaker 1: Go watch it on YouTube. Again, we're pushing you to
the YouTube page. Also, we're saying happy birthday to Sugar
Ray Leonard. We expound on that his birthday this weekend.
Ray about to be seventy years old, sixty nine years
old as we do this pod, but go check us
out in longer form. Again, we're wanting you to go
check our video content out. See us talking about Ray
Leonard's career and the Four Kings real quick as we
wish him a happy birthday. And also on the YouTube page,
we got another anniversary of Parnell Whittaker and Azuma Nelson,
which again is Hall of Fame fighters that met now
in nineteen ninety anniversary weekend now this weekend of that
fight is what we got. I mean, you got a lot.
They're on the YouTube page to go and watch savages,
to go subscribe and be part of with the nostalgia
here that we're doing, and again we make another rem
that next Sunday night. Next Sunday night to the twenty fifth,
we will go live and do the recap pod first
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it was controversial. We'll do all of that next Sunday
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