Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me
covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book four, The Gate I almost said,
the Fate, The Gate of the Farh Gods, chapters three
through five. In these chapters, we get to know some
other crawlers and they are not the competent, almost overachievers
that we have gotten to know from other groups. And
it's a real Jason Mendoza situation to me. Welcome to
spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha.
Thank you very much to Michael for commissioning this episode.
So these chapters are we're getting the beginnings of our
sort of script, as Carl puts it, and I am
into the whole. We've got some real goobers that we
need to work with. I acknowledge that this is sort
of like it's funny because I'm not the one that
has to deal with them, so you know, yes, exactly.
But if you guys don't know who I mean when
I mentioned Jason Mendoza, he is a character from the
Good Place, one of the best TV shows ever made,
and he is from jackson Florida or Jacksonville Jacksonville, Florida.
I think it's Jacksonville, Florida, and is an absolute trash
fire of a person. Very good hearted, sweet, but a
complete mess. And this dude is very much reminding me
of Jason min Dozen. That's w I'm picturing, lookie, and
I'm going to be interested to see how he functions
when he cannot get drunk anymore, because that's that's really something.
Michael says, how dare you? Didn't you hear Lewis talk
about the titty twister? Who else but a super genius
could conceive of a convertible fan this convertible van guys,
I am positive that this is out there, you know,
But if you all have pictures, go ahead and post
him in the discord. If you find something that you
feel is like representative, I am not. Like he says
something about how my mom got really mad, which can
you imagine letting your kid brow your car and they
bring it back as a convert I would lose my shit.
And secondly, he says that it got like one hundred
thousand likes on Instagram, which isn't that many? Like it's
a lot if you only get a few hundred or
a couple thousand, but one hundred thousand likes isn't even
really enough to make you any money. So if that's
all that you're getting out of it, that is not
validating or justifying this at all. It's terrible. Look, I
don't want to be the kind of person that's like,
do crazy shit for the algorithm, but like, we got
to make a living on here. We're all just doing
the best we can. And if you are going to
do some crazy shit for the algorithm, I'm not really
gonna be all that mad at you for it, Like,
as long as I don't feel like it's actively endangering
yourself for other people, which one could argue making a
convertible out of a van is definitely endangering people. So
it all depends on the execution, I suppose. But anyway,
I'm getting ahead of myself, as I so often do.
So let's start with chapter three. Carl is talking about
their game plan and that they are going to try
and find as many of the other crawlers as they
can and try and get them grouped up so that
they can get in on each other's chats and start
like formulating a plan together. Katcha is getting very good
with her. I keep wanting to say shape shifting, and
I guess that's like a particular race. She is a dumpelganger, right,
so she's getting really good with that and she has
managed to make herself look like one of these camel guys.
And then Mordecai is pointing out a kitchen upgrade which
was nothing more than three cabinets sitting in a row
against the blank wall of the kitchen. Able to upgrade
this into something much better once we get to the
two tier upgrades. I'm looking forward to that mostly because
of the magic room, but we'll talk about that later.
And I'm like, I want to know what the magic
room is. I'm assuming that it's something that's going to
allow magic to be like more potent, or that you
can practice better, or that it's like protected in some way.
I don't know. These are food synthesizers bought with Kocious coupon.
You can only use one a day, but this upgrade
came with three different cabinets, so it's breakfast, lunch, and
dinner or whatever. I know from experience these things can
be a little buggy. I suggest not picking the same
item twice in a row, or suddenly you'll find yourself
with that as your only choice. Otherwise, the selection changes
every day and is customized to you. It'll learn your tastes.
So that's really interesting that it's customized in the first
place and that it learns your tastes. Because there are
a bunch of breakfast items for Carl and he doesn't
mention the skier option, so I'm assuming that that pops
up for Katcha and doesn't for him. And for those
who don't know and didn't bother to look it up,
but do kind of care. Ski is like Greek yogurt
in a very you know, the profile of it. It's
a little bit more thin and sour, I would say,
not much thinner, and it's like lower in calories, but
it also is lower in protein, and it's got the
exact same amount of carbs, so it's I've had it before.
It's perfectly tasty. I like all kinds of dairy products
pretty much. There's very little I've tried of dairy that
I do not like. And yeah, it's served with jam
as well as like granola and stuff in the same
way that yogurt is yogurt. We can say that we
don't serve it with jam, but if you buy pre
sweetened granola that has like fruit on the bottom that's
basically jam. It's like the same exact idea. And Carl is, uh,
he gets a sausage bagel sandwich, and she warns him
how bad it's going to be, but it's exactly what
he expected because he has gotten kind of the worst
version of a sandwich his whole life that you just
pop in a microwave. And I like to think that
Katcha's is actually like an American equivalent of Skier and Jam,
because she says it tasted like bad sour cream mixed
with jolly ranchers, And I'm like, this sounds like a
This sounds like something we do because we'd love to
make like versions of foods from other countries, but bad.
We don't like to put in any effort that it takes.
We don't like to use good ingredients because it's more expensive,
and we like to often add a lot of fillers
that really change the texture. This is something that I
feel very strongly about, as you all know, because food
is sort of my thing. And if you are interested
in Greek yogurt but you've tried it and you haven't
liked it, I would really suggest if you haven't tried it,
to try Faje brand, which is Fage, because they are
one of the only brands that is like actually made
in the fashion that Greek yogurt is meant to be made,
which is by straining it all to hell and the
solas are what remain, whereas a lot of other Greek
yogurts are loaded with stabilizers and like guar, gum and gelatin,
or they even add like protein powder into them to
put protein back in. Fage doesn't need to do that
because that is just how it is when you make
it properly, and a lot of other Greek yogurt out
there isn't. It's just a completely different product, and they
just slap the word Greek yogurt on it because it's
got a similar texture kind of so anything anyway, Michael says,
that thing would screw me. I tend to get obsessed
with a certain food for a bit before getting sick
of it and moving on to some else for a while.
I'd be stuck with whatever my first choice would be forever.
I completely get that, Michael. Actually, this is something that
as somebody who tries to food prep as often as
they can I've had a great advantage where I really
like eating the same thing several days in a row
if it's good, you know, And I know a lot
of people do not like that, and that can get
in the way of food prepping because it's a lot
harder to prep a bunch of different things. Rob says,
the scare we get here is super thick and creamy.
I mean, the one that I had was super thick
and creamy, but it wasn't as thick as the Greek yogurt.
But you know, it doesn't whatever. I later on, Donut
is eating fancy feast and she's like not happy about it,
and I think it's supposed to be that, like it's
not either a good version of fancy feast, or perhaps
she has gotten so used to eating actual, like fresh
fish that's been prepared by Bob chefs, that this doesn't
compare anymore, because I would imagine fancy feast kind of
used to be her thing. But I can't tell if
it's just like it was poorly executed, or if it's
that she has gotten used to something much higher quality
and now going back is just a real downngrade. So
then we talk about the marketplace and Mordecai says, we
bought the marketplace upgrade early. It doesn't really even open
up until the next floor. For now, it's like having
a virtual general store interface. The second tier version is
the same thing, but twice as expensive, so we had
to buy it. Now you can purchase basic potions and
scrolls and random items will also pop up for sale.
Now I just want to point this out. The second
tier version is the same thing, but twice as expensive,
again with the insider knowledge being absolutely clutched, because if
you don't know this, you get fucked and you have
to pay twice as much next floor. And they just
this is just yet another example of the advantage of
having somebody who is giving you more information. And I
keep thinking about the advantage of being surrounded by people
who know how to play the system when you're growing
up in our universe. Just like as a kid, I
had a mother who had dropped out of high school
and eventually got her ged years later, and then I
had a father who didn't speak English. I was not
in a position where I was getting a lot of
advocacy about studying for SATs or tutors or people who
were experienced with writing cover letters and resumes, you know,
like it wasn't like I couldn't talk to teachers about that,
but it wasn't the sort of thing that was just
like part of my parents' lives and I could finish
writing it and have them look it over and they
would have any sort of discerning eye. They weren't familiar,
and so I had to rely on teachers for everything,
and teachers have a lot of kids to look after.
And it's just a really good example of like I
kind of wish that I had started keeping a tally
of the number of advantages they have from Mordecai, just
in terms of advanced notice about things, you know, just that.
So he says, you can sell things, Carl, this was
your coupon, but we gave it to Donuts, so she
got credit because her charisma adds is automatically added to
the system, so the prices are lower and Carl has
to do Okay, So how does it work? Even though
it turns out from his book he knows already it's
a simple interface like buying and selling on eBay. There
will be bid auctions next floor. If you want to
sell anything magical like those low tier clothing items. You
keep receiving I'd wait until then for regular junk. Just
toss it to the AI storekeeper and you'll get a
good price thanks to Donut. And Donut is like it's
broken because it says my hats are only worth one
gold piece each, which I'm sweetie, oh dear, And he
says the tourists of factions will be able to start
trading using the system once the sixth floor opens, the
marketplace will be flooded, and he says, so we're gonna
have to fight guys we're selling this gear to I
don't like selling things to people when they might be
used against us, and he says something about later on,
like they're mostly going to be using it against each other.
It's not even really going to be about you, which
sounds better a sense ofly, but I'm not sure that
end is better. And uh he asks, does Prince Stalwart
have one of these? And Mordecai says no. The factions
on the ninth floor don't get it. The funnel City
of Laracos has stores with NPC proprietors, and the faction
leaders have to physically go to the store and buy
or bid on items, which is interesting. The ninth floor
seems to be an exception in a lot of ways
with different things. Once you crawlers get there, everybody gets
kicked out of laracos and the fighting begins. So you
make the most money selling your gear on the sixth
through eighth. Once the ninth opens, the factions are no
longer able to buy new gear and can only take
it from the other armies. Yet again, guys, because like,
if you don't know that and you're saving your shit
to sell and then all of a sudden it turns
out you can't do that, you would be fun. That
is a huge piece of information. Morca tells Carl to
go and check out the interface, and Carl says, I
will in a bit, but right now I have work
to do, and we find out that he he is
aware that there is a problem for him with this
interface due to the fact that he has this book.
I'd been warned that the market interface the book showed
itself as having almost no value in my inventory, but
the cookbook included a warning be careful with the marketplace interface.
It uses a different system to value items. It tagged
this tone as a unique heirloom item, giving a ridiculous
value something like fifty million gold. Nothing has happened yet,
but I am afraid of giving a third party access
to my inventory like that. And then somebody else adds
I don't know if this is the cause, but this
appears to be that Bill's last entry into the cookbook,
which I would hazard. I guess it probably is that sucks.
I've been leaving the cards casually on my bed whenever
I use the marketplace. Make sure you don't have it
on you, to be safe. It's yet another example of
the information being able to make or break you. Carl
is lucky in finding this out before he interacts with
the interface. But then we had somebody who didn't have
this warning, and thank god they put it in there
for others in the future, but they weren't able to
use that knowledge. It was used against them more than likely.
And this is something that I think of a lot.
How many people out there are like accomplishing things that
really they are likely not going to be able to
reap any benefits from. They are putting things in place
so that future generations will be able to do better
or have better preparation, but they themselves may not necessarily
get anything out of what they are doing, and that's
always a very hard thing to like accept, you know.
So just yeah, the amount of information that Carl has
is such a massive advantage in so many ways. It's
frankly way more important than any power that he could get.
You know. It's like, I just don't think there's a
value you can place on it. And it makes sense
why this book is registered as being so insanely valuable.
So they go to this bar. It's a brothel. It's
called Spit and Swallow. The bar's logo was a bird
skewered on a stick. I am so sorry, but that's
pretty good. That's a pretty good joke. I can't even
be mad about it. I mean, that's just pretty good. Okay.
So so they had on into the toe and here
is when somebody explains the toe joke, which, as y'all know,
I was not getting. And John was in the chat
in the last episode and he mentioned that it was cameltoe.
And John, I don't know if you were spoiling me
or if you just had gotten the joke long before
I did. But uh, I definitely needed this to be
explained because I wasn't going to get it. I know,
I wouldn't have, And there's this dude who's got a
prostitute on his lap, and she is called juice Box,
which is incredible, what a great name. She's doing a
Jessica rabbit right now. Later on she looks more like
a rabbit in a or not a rabbit, a mouse
in like a jumpsuit. And when I tell you guys
that I fucking knew who this was right away, I
couldn't remember her name, but it immediately pictured Gadget. As
it turns out her name is from Rescuers down Under?
Is it instantly new? And it's so funny because like
when you when you ask dudes the kinds of like
little crushes that they had when they were younger, it's
fun to see how many of those crushes were sort
of like weirdoh not not even necessarily weird because they're animated.
Because I know a lot of women had a crush
on the fox from robin Hood. Is it Disney robin
Hood or it's that other animation house. I can't remember,
so no shade to that, but it's just it will
be unexpected sometimes, you know. I always though of Gadget
as being like the Tapanka of uh animation. So Rescue
Rangers is Sarah m thank you. Orto says, I'm finding
that by listening to this series, I'm finally picking up
on a bunch of jokes that completely went over my head.
I love that. I love that, this is what, you know,
what I'm here for. Michael says, I'm still grateful to
Natasha for explaining the Luducris boom bitch, get out the
way joke for me. It's a Michael, It's move bitch,
get out the way. But oh my god, guys, after
I was like I forgot that joke, I went and
listened to that song again and it's still fucking such
a banger. Sarah from Sissy I Ga just seems to
be second only to Sally Acorn in trends of first
crushes in animation. I don't know about Sally Acorn. Who's that?
Sarah m Rob says. It does make me realize just
how out of touch with popular culture I am. This
is like, I actually don't think I ever saw the
animated Robin Hood, so that like near universal crush of
the Fox, I did not have that. I'm trying to
think of an animated that I had. I had a
crush on Mighty Mouse when I was very small. I'm
talking like seven or eight years old, very very small.
I don't really think that it had anything to do
with Mighty Mouse as he was animated. I think it
was just that he was such a good dude who
always saved the day, and I just really loved that
about him. And it was not like appearance based at all.
But uh yeah, from the Sonic Sally Acorn Sword in
the Stone, Saraphim says, from the Sonic Saturday Am cartoon. Okay,
do not know it. Also, haven't seen Sword in the Stone.
So Michael says, you might really like the New Superman movie.
Then I did. I went to see that in the
theater with my husband and it was a good time.
And that man is too fine to exist. He looks
like he has been augmented by AI. So okay, now
now I'm thinking about, like, if I were going to
have a shapeshifter concubine, who would I ask them to
look like? And honestly, the very first person that occurred
to me was Jason Momoa. And it sort of surprises
me because like, I've sort of turned a corner on
him because of just some shit he said that I
was like, I don't like this about you, but that
man is just a type of fine that is so
unique that I feel like I wouldn't ever meet anybody
that would even remotely look like this dude, and so
I think I would have to go with that Jason Momoa.
So let's see, these two dudes are fucked up, and
there is a moment where it's it's I thought this
was very interesting. Carl says we all need to work together.
The recap is in like six hours meet us there
or what Lewis said, suddenly sounding inexplicably hostile, you're gonna
blow us up. Interesting. They've got a dick measuring contest
going up with Carl that he doesn't know about. I
mean maybe he does now, it says inexplicably hostile, And
I think it's explicable simply in that you've got a
bad reputation. They have poisoned the well and now it's
gonna be an uphill battle to get people to work
with you, and that fucking sucks. It's a good thing
he's got, Donu. It's a good thing that he has Patya,
because it really this could fuck him real bad. So
Dona is the one who basically tells them, y'all are
level twenty two and everything that we have come across
is at least thirty. If you don't want to be
smashed to a fucking pulp, you're away to meet us.
So say, we'll meet you there, Carl, And they do.
And this is when they go outside and they talk
to one of the camels about the time of day
and like how the sun works and whatnot. Here he
goes through a whole thing, and Katchi is the one
to boil it down. Days are twenty four hours long.
Like on Earth, it's only dark for two hours. The
storms come every day at four hours before sunset and
last two hours. The second sun is up for eight
hours and it gets really hot during that time. It
sounds like our last three days here will be mostly
dark and the storms will last twice as long. So
we have twelve hours until it gets super hot, that's right,
and we have eighteen until the next sand storm. I
think I'm so glad. I am so glad somebody fucking
got this, because I'll I tell you. As this man
began to describe the mythology of the sun and the sunset,
I can't tell you how bad, my eyes glazed over.
I actually listened to this section three times, and I
know I listened to this entire section twice, but I
listened to his explanation three times because I had to
rewind it because I completely spaced out and missed it all,
and I hadn't yet gotten to the part where Katcha
explains it much more simplified. So the fact that I
missed it, I was like, oh shit, so I rewound it,
and then when I kept listening, she just boils it down.
I was like, fuck, I could have just this is
so much easier. We found another group of six crawlers
in another bar. These guys were a party of half
elves and humans. They were all twenty one through twenty
four levels, not age, and they all seemed older, mostly
in their thirties and forties. All were ours, All six
had the exact same class. And He's just like, this
is such a fucking idiotic choice. But also, I bet
this place kind of like gamed the system, even though
it is the system that is a game. So I
don't even know if that really makes sense to say
it that way, but he feels that they were probably
just so strongly influenced that it was kind of going
to be more difficult for this not to happen. These
guys were more serious about their predicament. They'd also received
the quest to find out. It was in the town hall.
The town's door was wide open and there was no
guard when we left. And this is when they head
out and they're in the desert and there's a mob
coming at them that turns out to be a ackling.
There's some monsters first, that are these lizards, which I
very relieved that these were not wall monitors, because I
was sort of like, I think we'll run into some.
I think it's inevitable. But I definitely had a moment
of just like, please let it not be the ones
that give him like one hundred and fifty percent more
damage or whatever. These are male thorny devils, and even
though it's not one hundred and fifty percent more damage,
it's twenty percent more. And Katcha is going at them
crossbow bolts. It's not really doing anything, but the magic
missiles from Dona are really doing some damage. The creature
stopped at the top of the hill, suddenly realizing he
might have bitten off more than he could chew. He
started to back up as I unsummoned my gauntlet and
loaded a banger spear. I twirled and fired, scoring a
hit on the monster's head. It dealt solid damage, almost
as much as one of Donah's missiles. Donut held off
killing it while we allowed the clockwork mongos to attack.
I wanted to see how they do. They did nothing.
It sucks. I felt very bad, even though they're just clockwork,
and I know that I just always feel bad for
the clockwork mongos. So let's see a red geyser of
lizard gore showered mixed in with a bigger cloud of
dust and doughnut later. It's just like blood and sand
is the worst combination. And I was so glad she
said it, because that was all I could think. Also
was just like, oh great, you have this very sticky
substance like blood, and then you have something that is
so coarse and irritating and gets everywhere like sand. So yeah,
this is uh just sounds like it really fucking sucks.
So this is when the plane shows up, because it
is basically they got their attention by causing these like
huge explosions. So this thing he tries to use smoke curtains,
but it seems as if they've got some ability to
detect his crew despite them, because they're locking in pretty solidly,
and they have this thing that they drop when they attack,
but it's uh, not a bomb. It just says what
their payload is is like more entertaining. And later on
when we see it, that payload is dead and there's
something wrong with the like container that this creature is
in that failed to open it. So the boss is dead,
and I kind of thought, like, oh sweet, did they
manage to sidestep something. But Carl's interpretation is not that
we're side stepping anything. In fact, this is us stepping
right into some scripted story that they want us to follow.
And he has a bit of a spidy sense moment
where he's like, Yeah, we're not gonna We're not gonna
do any of this. Let's get the fuck out of here,
which I have to admit makes a lot more sense
than what I was thinking that they were somehow so
easily able to kill this thing. So yeah, and the
creature that was in the egg, by the way, was
a feral goose, which when he asks Mordecai about it,
Mordechai says, anything with feral in the name is usually
bad news. So considering the title of this book is concerning,
Donut says, there are more airplanes up there, all of
a sudden, I think we made them mad ah. Hell,
we need to get our hands on some of these
camel rocket launchers. I said. These were different planes than
the last. There was an eclectic mix of vehicles, though
they were too far up to examine properly. Change of plans,
back to Humptown, I said, go go, Donut and Mango
took off heading back to the city. As we followed
and started to run, I looked up over my shoulder.
As we ran, I caught sight of the drop Bear,
which was continuing continuing to rise into the sky. Catcha,
you saw those engine parts in your inventory? I do good.
We need to build ourselves a dune bungie and fast.
We don't have time for this shit. And that is
what they do. And uh, of course don't has to
name it the Royal Chariot, which the AI promptly does
adopt for the name of this thing, and they get
a descriptor for it that is not super encouraging. I'm
trying to find it all terrain tracked all terrain suicide
machine the Royal Chariot. If a snowmobile got drunk on
moonshine and had a sweaty, ill advised night with a
hill bill, he's coon hunting ATV. This oversized birth defect
of a vehicle would be the result quickly traverses through
both sand and snow. Don't worry about the lack of rollcage,
or the grossly misplaced center of gravity, or the fact
this thing will do an impressive impersonation of a catapult
the moment it hits a rock. The most important part
is that it looks kind of badass, which I understand
Katya just being like, I feel like that's worrying, and
Carl tries to downplay it, but uh, and I know
that the AI is going to try and just like
fuck with their confidence as often as it can. But
I really believe this description. I'm worried about the catapult
part in particular, that just seems it just seems like
a bad News Bears sort of situation. I think it's
because this a terrible story. Actually, But when I was
in high school, there was a girl who died in
a car accident. She was driving way too fast, and
she I don't remember if she had a seatbelt on.
I think she didn't, and she hit the steering wheel
with her chest, which stilled her body. But she had
snapped forward with such force that her head came off
and went through the windshield. And I think about that
a lot as a result of like hitting something and
being thrown or just like broken apart. And it's the
kind of thing that, like, looking back now, maybe that
story wasn't even true. That is what I was told
by somebody who knew her family, because, like I said,
she went to my school and she had family and
friends there. But perhaps it was just a you know,
made up thing. I believe it, though, I'll be honest.
She was going really fast and she was on a
few different drugs at the time, so you know, there's
just an awful thing. And I are our friends probably
have some straps touble them down. But if you are
going through, if you're doing enough speed or you hit
something the right way, she happens. Man, the human body
is weirdly resilient and also weirdly fragile, and it can
be very unpredictable which one you're going to get. So
let's see h after the storms were done, it'd spend
the next few hours moving back into position. By the
time the two hour night was over, the fortress would
be back in place several thousand feet over the center
of the bowl. We still had over twelve hours before
this sandstorm was due to start, which meant the airship
was not where it was supposed to be. The waistline
isn't really doing what Watercai cleaned it would, I said.
Katchia's face turned to the sky. Yeah, you're right. It
looks like it's headed out to the ocean now. They
must have misunderstood the schedule. And I'll be really honest,
I don't know what they're talking about because I'm not
keeping track of the timing of things. I'm sort of
treating all of this the way that I did with
the railroads. I don't need to know. I will believe
you when you say something isn't doing what it's supposed
to do or what you were told is going to do,
and I'm just gonna let it go, you know. So sorry,
there's a bunch of chatter. I just missed it, Saraphim
says at this point, falling for the recap propaganda says
more about them than it does Carl. I think it
really depends, Saraphim, because if you're not featured on the propaganda,
so you have no metric to say, like, they're making
it look like X happened and that's not how it happened.
You might have no idea how edited it is. You know,
you might not be able, you might not be informed.
It's only the people that get featured and are sort
of like, why are they making me look like this?
They're going to be clued in, and other people might
just accept it because they don't have any other examples
to go by. Oh Misty says, we know the recap
is wrong because our guy is on it. If these
guys never saw the recap be wrong, they can't know exactly.
Seraphim says, anything with goose and it is bad news
as well. Yeah, geese are vicious. Rob says, I feel
like anyone who's going through high school as a story
like that. Oh yeah about Yeah, under developed brains in
a motor vehicle is rough, yeah, seraf And for us,
we live in near Action Park aka the deadliest steam
park in the US. I have heard about Action Park recently.
That is so weird that that came up again. I
have never been, but yeah, they are. They are a
really good example of a place that shouldn't have been
allowed to continue operating. Michael says. My high school was
next to a long, decently steep hilly road. Four kids
killed themselves racing down it during my junior year. Oh man,
I hate this shit. Like I get it. I get
this like thrill ride thing in theory, but I have
just never really been somebody who was so without anxiety
at any point in my life that I could participate
in a thing like that. I just couldn't do it.
I can. I can stand back and watch others do it,
and that's about as much as I can manage. Even
watching other people take a risk like that is pretty
hard for me, never mind doing it myself. So there's
a certain aspect of personality that I just don't have,
and thus it makes it impossible for me to understand
folks who do have it on a sort of fundamental
level that I don't think is ever really going to change.
So let's see, that's when I realized the wasteland was
directly over the other village, and there's a siren that
starts going off, and then these camels have an anti
aircraft gun that they fix on it. Three flares were red.
Let's see, let's get back to town, I said, jumping
onto the back of a chariot. We stopped outside the
gate and started to quickly disassemble the vehicle. When we
were done, I turned one last time to look south,
and that's when the bombs started to fall on the
distant town. And they have a talk about what happens
to the NPCs who don't go too safe rooms or
who are in bars that aren't technically safe rooms, and
Mordecai says that it's a really complicated thing the way
these rooms operate. But certain NPCs will always be protected,
which I'm assuming is based on like their function in
the world and in the story. And then there are
going to be NPCs that are like not around If
they're not around crawlers, then they won't be safe because
it will be just sort of proximity. Whatever umbrella gets
held over that crawler's head will extend to the others.
So what about that other thing that we were talking
about with the primary and secondary zones, that's different, he said,
shooting me a warning blare that doesn't directly impact crawlers
or NPCs at all. I don't remember this the primary
and secondary zones. I'm sure if you guys draw my memory,
I will. But the way that he looks at Carl,
it's almost like he isn't supposed to say this out loud,
and I thought that was sort of interesting if it
may be their conversation that I'm not remembering with something
that happened mostly via chat, and Carl thinks to himself,
there was still there was still just so much I
didn't understand, and then thinks to himself, and you've probably
known more than ninety percent of the other crawlers, which
is exactly the thing. I really the way that everything
has to work is that not everybody can have the
rule book, or else it won't be fun and interesting
to watch, it won't be entertaining. I hate this so much,
so let's see if this is Let's see sometimes during
quests and special events, the system prevents access to safe rooms,
as you've seen. But if this town gets that same
treatment from the nomes, just come in here and you'll
be protected, And Donut says, I hope the poor people
in the other town knew all this stuff, which I
am guaranteeing that they did not. We still didn't know
why the Gnomes had blown the factory in town to hell.
From what I gathered based on the frantic activity. They
didn't know either the Camels. We kept sticking our heads
out to keep track of the ponderous Fortresses location. So far,
it hadn't made a move in our direction. So then
we get the recap show and we see Miriam Dom
and Prepotente trying to take down a province boss and
they are doing some really smart stuff. Mordecai is extremely impressed,
and then Quanchie just fucking ruins it. This guy sucks
so bad. I look, I was really trying to withhold
my feeling about things, just because the virulence of irritation
coming from Donut toward this guy. I felt like I
was not willing to let her unfairly influence me, and
so I was going to give him more of a
benefit of the doubt than I might have otherwise, simply
because she was so against him. Now I'm like, no, no,
Donut is correct. He zips in, he shoots the boss
with a magic bolt and makes it wake up everybody
else has to flee. Kwan stays in the room and
shoots it to get the health down halfway, and as
soon as the monster takes a swing at him, he
fucking leaves. And that shit is absolutely that is some
baby bitch shit. As it turns out, there's a bunch
of people that are functioning in this weird way where
they can have like an encounter, but they get out
of it without actually fighting the boss. And it's one
thing when Carl does that using a gauntlet ability that
is up against a god and he literally cannot beat
that god, like it's impossible to do. That's one thing.
But here's a guy who could have taken him down
and doesn't for whatever reason. Granted I say he could
have taken him down and doesn't because that is what
Donut says. Maybe she's wrong, maybe not, I don't know,
but Mordecai is impressed with that robe and the powers
that it gives them. And then they have this awful
story about Effecchi and this other guy. I'm trying to
find the name that he's got legitimate do Florin. That's right, Florin.
So Effecchi was a healer, and she chooses a hero class,
like a healer class. And is I say hero because
like people who prioritize others over themselves. Just I'm not
that type man. I just don't. I am a self
absorbed person, I will admit it. And nobody listening to
this podcast is at all shocked. So anybody who has
that sort of instinct I'm always just very impressed by.
And then the guy Floren who is He says he's
from France, but he has an Australian accent and was
in Africa when it all went down, and says he
works for quote Private Security, And Yeah, as soon as
I read that, I'm just like, ooh, that is some
had some shady shit. Probably he'd also come into the
dungeon arm to the teeth, but now he relied solely
on his automatic shotgun, which appeared to be heavily modified
even before he received a magical unlimited AMMO upgrade. Unlimited
AMMO upgrade is incredible, that's just great. And Florin's weapon
is super useful and Effecci, this is crazy. Effecci. She
has a staff that summons and flings leeches. They'd covered
the mob sucking at its fluids, killing it in seconds afterward,
the wriggling leeches would be filled with blood and fluids
and they could be eaten, giving a wide array of buffs.
Florin would gobble them right up, getting temporarily stronger. It
was disgusting. Yeah, that sounds fucking foul. Eh so gross
Mordecai is like I read the thought that they had
removed that spell, which I'm assuming Keith means is just
because it's like a little bit too ope. And then
we get then we get our first, our first like
scene of Lucia mar interacting with other crawlers in like speech,
because we've seen her having interactions in fights and stuff,
but there's been very little of her actually having a
conversation or talking at all. So Florida and Effecchier waiting
to go down the stairwell because obviously all of this
footage is from like before the level collapsed. The CMR
comes in, flanked by her two dogs, Ceci and Gustavo. Uh,
Gustavo three, sorry, Circi the wrong Ceci. The roight Whilie
had undergone a transformation, having grown ve almost twice the
size of the other dog. The remaining crawlers scrambled at
their chance to hit the stairwell, a glut formed. At
the exit, Florin and Effecchi approached Lucia, apparently in an
attempt to say hello. No, this is mine, Lucia said,
hugging herself. The two dogs growled, all right, mate, Floren said,
backing off. He turned away and muttered crazy bitch under
his breath. As soon as he said that, I was like, Oh,
why would you do that? Dude? Do you think she
can't hear you? Like you don't interact with a person
like this with the power that they have and see
that sort of in front of them. I Am not
trying to victim blame here, but I can't help but
wonder what would have happened if he had just not
you know what I'm saying. So yet his attention, Lucia
literally picks up a dude and chucks it at Florin
chucks this guy at him, and Floren says, what the
hell you're not right in the head. We're all friends here.
There is nothing wrong with my head, Lucia mar said,
sounding strangely offended. Why would you say that? Speak no
more or there will be something wrong with your girlfriend's head. Uh,
Florin backed away, not saying anything. I could tell the
guy was smart, he recognized her insanity. The last of
the crawlers pushed their way to the stairs, leaving just
the three of them plus the injured crawler and the
dogs and doughnut. Notice is that nobody stays for the
guy that Lucia threw that He's just left completely to
fenn for himself, which does suck. Uh. He reached up
totach this Florin to tap if she on the shoulder
and signaled for her to proceed toward the stairs. She nodded.
The injured man sat up, rubbing his head. He gave
a terrified glance at Lucia and scrambled toward the stairwell.
Gustavo moved to block his access. What did you say,
Lucia snarled at the fleeing boy. What did you say
about my papa? Gustavo took a menacing step toward him.
What I I don't know what you're talking about. He
didn't say anything about your father. You're right cunt for
and said, distracting her. But if I could say something
to him, it'd probably be quit dropping your babies on
their heads. It makes them a touch daffy. He pulled,
fetchy up, come on to the stairs. Don't take shit
from anyone. It's just a game. It's not real. Lucia
said she was talking to someone over her shoulder, someone
who wasn't there. I am so curious what the fuck
is happening right now? Now? Carl is assuming Luciumar is
just mentally ill, maybe has some kind of like schizophrenia.
You know, there are plenty of mental illnesses out there
that cause auditory hallucinations, visual hallucinations, paranoia, all kinds of things.
And yeah, I'm imagining that down here. You're not getting
medication for that sort of stuff, so probably, you know. Also,
her comment don't take shit from anyone. It's just a game,
it's not real, is very interesting because it suggests that
luciumr might not really be the psychopath she looks like.
If she genuinely does not think any of this is reality,
if she thinks that this is all some of game
or dream, then her actions and her like really intense
ruthlessness might make a bit more sense. You know, But
I can't help but wonder when he says, like she's
talking to someone over her shoulder, who wasn't there? Are
we sure there's somebody there? Are we sure? I'm just
asking because like this, this world has different rules in
a lot of ways, and it's possible something is up
that we don't know about. And I would imagine if
there were somebody there and they were by Lucy mrs,
Like if they were by her side throughout this whole
game so far they couldn't help, but also being leveled
up and they would show up on the leader board also,
So I'm not trying to say that it's something as
as specific. It's like, oh, maybe there's a crawler who
chose a class that can make them invisible, because I
think we would have to know if there was an
invisible crawler with her, it would just be part of
the narrative. I don't see them actually hiding that, you know.
But I also wonder if there isn't something else that's
actually real going on with her, and I don't know
what that would even be. That, to be clear, does
not make her any less frightening. Even if there is
somebody there, it's clear like she is not understanding the
reality of where she is and the effect that she's
having on other people, and that the consequences of what
she does are like whether not she intends to be
a ruthless maniac, she winds up killing what's her name,
I already forgot it. If et she and that is
a real consequence. So like, I am not trying to
say that we shouldn't fight Lucy Amar or we should have,
you know, it's just sort of something that has to
be set aside as Carl says, But I am really
curious about it because there is clearly it seems to
me something very specific happening here. Saraphim says. We know
they do edit certain people out of the recap, like
Agnes or she's just crazy, you know, Saraphm, It's funny
you said it because like Agnes did pop into my
head when I was watching this. We've run across her
the one time. She's a really low level. It's possible
that she's being edited out here, and like it would
also mean it would also make sense why she has
managed to survive this long because she's attached herself to
somebody who is so high level. And also Agnes isn't
a joiner, so I don't think that she would wind
up leveling up in proximity because she isn't. I would
guess if she were to meet up with Lucy Mr,
she wouldn't be in the party with her. I don't
think that she would want to do that. But I
also in the context of the way that this is
being what Lucia says, don't take shit from anyone. It's
just a game. It's not real. It feels like she's
either trying to give instruction to somebody hesitant, or she
is repeating back to them something they have told her,
And in either case that doesn't feel like agnes to me.
So I don't know. Is there somebody like actually purposely
misleading her about stuff? I you know, and like thinking
that the kid who she threw said something about her
papa when he hadn't spoken at all. Is it possible
that she's been enchanted by somebody like I genuinely do
not know what the limits are here, and I'm wondering
how much she is being manipulated by somebody. I don't
know how that would even work, though, you know, it's
just all of this feels very strange and very It's
written in such a way that it feels like there
is more than one weird thing going on. These weird
things don't seem to really go together and create a
picture where I can say here's what I think is happening.
It's like there's a few things that are off with
her and they point in different directions, so I can't
figure out how they go together, and it's just really intriguing.
I am super curious about this. Something something here isn't
lining up. So then we have the most devastating thing
that has happened, in my opinion on this show so far,
what happened with once we find out the truth behind
it with Frank q May's daughter is so so sad,
But there is that initial choice to make to make
her use the ring that feels so gross that I'm
not trying to make it be like so it's less sad,
but it does feel like you guys did take a
calculated risk and it didn't pay off. And I know
that you didn't intend to pay this price and you
didn't want to play this game, so it is tragic,
but you knew the risk you were taking. And here
she being the CMR, has a power that apparently reflects
damage onto a target, and so when Florin shoots at her,
that damage gets reflected to if at she and her
head gets blown off and Floren gets credit for killing her,
gets the golden skull, and I imagine the bounty and
the way that I would absolutely do what he does,
which is collapsing somewhere, unable to move forward. Like Carl's
theory is, the guy is still sitting there between the
floors and he hasn't spun the wheel and chosen that
is all because like, you could do something where you
kill yourself, but I feel like the game is set
up in such a way that that probably isn't possible
super easily. And also like there is a kind of
despair that would make you just give up instantly, and
there is a different kind of despair that makes you
give up but not completely completely give up. And that's
where I often fall is like, really, at my core,
I am a pretty positive person and I deeply feel
in my heart that things will get better. But despite
not feeling like suicide is an option that I would consider,
simply stopping taking any action to care for myself at all,
that is certainly something that I have done. And so
the way he sort of goes into this stasis, I
was like, oh, that's it. I feel like that's what
I would do. I would just like fucking camp out
somewhere and just be like, you can't make me, and
if you do, fuck it. I'll die that way, you know.
I'll just let you make me until you can't make
me and it's quicker for you to just kill me off. So, yeah,
this is so devastating because being responsible for the killed.
Of course, it's not his fault. He didn't understand the
power that Lucy Amer has. And even Mordecai says, whatever
power she's got is ridiculously broken because the cool down
for that particular spell, as he knows it, is supposed
to be pretty long. So she has found a way
around that, or she's got more than one item that
is equipped with that type of spell. And yeah, the
whole thing is just so incredibly tragic. I hate this.
And Carl mentions the protection spell that Effetchi cast on
him and the other guy, and Mordecai says, yeah, there's
a lot of protection of spells that you can't cast
on yourself. It takes a special type of person to
want to use and train such enchantments. And yeah, y'all,
I don't have enough trust in other people to have
my back, to be willing to always be helping everyone
around me. I'll just be straight up. There is a
kind of absolute trust that somebody has your back that
you have to have in order to be able to
put others first. In this way, I don't have it.
So yeah, Katcha says about her poor thing, but she
needs to be dealt with. Mordecai in chat says, here's
the good news. If she does use that rubber spell,
it hasn't a vulnerability, a big one. They've been editing
out her using the spell until now there's a reason
for that. They might want her killed. That's interesting. So
he doesn't say what the vulnerability is specifically, but like
saying that they're showing it now. Maybe they want her killed.
I wonder why is it? Because she is demonstrably out
of her mind and they feel like that's sort of
ruining the vibe of the show. I would think that
the entertainment value of this woman would make it so
that they would want to keep her, But I don't
really know what their priorities are. A lot of the time,
you know, Lucimur was given the land quadrant in a
bubble design similarly to ours, but massive, massive stepped pyramid
was in the center and the weather was cold and
covered in nice Prepotente and Miriam Don landed on the
air quadrant of a bubble that was like a giant
cave with rock growing along the interior wall of the sphere.
Their domain was nothing more than a shelf of rock
that ringed the interior wall. Their target was a nest
of spiders that hung from the ceiling thousands of feet
into the air. And I do not know how you
start with that, Like at first I thought, oh, okay,
just a little bit of rock and you have a
goat with you. Fucking done. Goats could climb sheer cliff
face that you would never believe they'd be able to
find a foothold on. It's frankly terrifying sometimes to see
where goats wind up perfectly fucking chill, chewing on some
weird you know, some weird route that they found and
you're sitting there having a heart attack and they're fine,
But sphere, you know, we're going upside down. Like nah.
So the CMR is still number one, Carl is number two,
Prepotente is three, and then Donah is fourth, which Donah
of course does not care for. Katcha does not feature
on the list at all. Quan Chit is right after Donah,
which obviously cannot be born. Miriam Baum is seven, and
I just really like the fact that Prepotente is ahead
of her when he was her pet is crazy. I
don't know how I would feel about that. Elle mcgibb
is back on the leader board. Bogden Roe do not
remember this, dude, but there is a character named Bogden
in The Thursday Murder Club who is great, So I
already have a better opinion of him that he has
not earned due to that. And then Florian Urt Florian
Florin is level ten. He dropped a bunch because he
hasn't progressed forward. So oh, man, guys, I'm over time,
and I haven't even covered chapter five. I kind of
talked about a lot of what goes on here already.
There's a conversation between Carl and Mordecai where they are
discussing the difference between different like shape changing races, and
he says that Juice Box is like way more powerful
than she looks and he can't quite figure her out.
And then we have the whole thing with these two
dudes who are more fucked up than they were last
time Carl came across them, and finally Mordecai convinces them
to go into the safe room they're like personal space,
because he doesn't want the Uh, Karl doesn't want the
Dromedarian bartender to hear their plan, and Mordecai mixes up
a sober up potion, but it's different looking than what
Karl remembers, and when he tries to examine it, there
are no properties listed, it doesn't have any info, and
one of the guys just drinks it instantly, not caring
about that, and the other is very suspicious and keeps
asking why there's no description and finally drinks it as well.
And what it turns out to be is like a
detoxing potion that also will make it so that they
cannot get drunk or fucked up again for this entire floor,
which is pretty great. I've worked with some people that
could really have used this. So uh, there's this thing
where Carl is like trying to explain, like double they
bomb the hell out of that other town. It probably
has something to do with whatever collateral they had. Something
changed that let the nooms know the Bactrians no longer
had collateral, and the guys are just like Bactrians, what
are you fucking talking about? They have no idea, they
haven't been paying attention at all. And we eventually find
out because the big question has been how did you
get this far? And they find out that the one
of them wound up getting this like exhaust spell that
means that they can like get out of situations without
actually having to fight, so they stay alive and they
use exhaust and puddle jumper, and so they just don't
know how to take care of themselves at this point.
And it's a very funny, like, you know, analogy for
the way that some people can go through life getting
out of shit over and over again and never actually
learning any lessons and never actually growing as a person.
So my guides, my guy guy said the only way
I could possibly live was to choose the pest control class.
He was a dick again, so curious about these guides,
and they're like, you know, what is what is the
angle here? You know, sometimes we paralyze whole groups, but
they wake up after you hit them, so we don't
attack them. And some of them take a lot of
hits to kill. We just usually spray and run and
oh my god, I forget one of them starts vomiting
after taking this drink, and the cleaner bot is quite irritated.
This cleaner bot expressing itself and its frustration at cleaning
bums me out because I have the ability that a
lot of people do of like kind of making something
a little bit too real and human like in my
head and then attaching feelings to it. And I would
start to be feeling guilty about making this cleaner bot
do its job, and we can't have that. So at
the end of this chapter, Carl says, can we get
on with it now? I just not have got a
notification that says I can't drink anymore, Lewis said, his
voice turned to a whisper. Not cool, man, not cool,
It's all I got left. That's not true. You still
have your date with juice Box, said Donut. And I
couldn't help but wonder if he really does have his
date with juice Box, because those guys had run out
of money, so I'm sort of thinking that he might
not be able to even pay for that now, but
who knows, So very very interested in what these dudes
are like once they're like truly sober, and if they
are able to get like advance at all. Mordecai says
that the detox thing it is used to cure alcoholism
and also used to torture people, which is pretty horrifying. I
don't want to know how that works, but uh I yeah,
And there also is I want to touch on this
because I didn't just a brief mention. Katscha is like,
you know, she has this engineering ability that has been
like put into her brain, and she's thinking about the
fact that she can drink something that gives her all
this knowledge or get given something or and she's sort
of like that means that anybody can be an expert
at anything. So if everybody has been so equalized by this,
then how can there still be this kind of cruelty
and whatnot? And Carl rightfully predicts that this is gate
kept by the rich and that probably there's also consequences
to like doing too much of it or you know whatever,
which is an interesting question because she's comparing it to
the matrix where you can just get jacked in and
learn whatever over and over again in all different areas
and I think that Carl's probably right that there's a
few things that limit how that would work. All right,
So I've got to wrap over time again. But thank
you guys again so much for hanging out with me.
Appreciate you all, and until next time to the lou motherfuckers.
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