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<v Speaker 1>Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome all members of

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say hey to everybody here. I see

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<v Speaker 1>Tony has already put in some things into the chat

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<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to talk about and very interested to

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<v Speaker 1>hear more things about it because I keep hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>this India Pakistan situation. They were about to make a

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<v Speaker 1>ceasefire situation. Then they said, nah, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>what the current status is. I know that Trump just

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<v Speaker 1>came back from Saudi Arabia. He was talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money being done with Katar.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>About that here in a few but let's go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and check the chat real quick. Let's see de salt

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<v Speaker 1>stockpile price dropped nine percent because of Pakistan shooting down

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<v Speaker 1>Indian raph aala rafale jets. I could be mispronouncing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I checked and it has been up fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>for the year, so not too bad. Are you talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like the military industrial complex for India?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, also France, it's a French company. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the headlines saying they're down nine percent because India is

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<v Speaker 3>shot down like two or three of those jets, And

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<v Speaker 3>at first they were saying, I mean sorry, Pakistan shot

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<v Speaker 3>down two or three of the jets, and the first

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<v Speaker 3>India said no, those are just fuel tanks. Those are

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<v Speaker 3>meant to be jettison But then with closer inspection of

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<v Speaker 3>the photos, they were the engines. So yeah, they did

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<v Speaker 3>shoot down a couple and the stock suffered. But I

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<v Speaker 3>checked in Google just like an hour ago and it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like it's up over fifty percent for the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So whatever this nine percent thing is is within the

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<v Speaker 3>volatility of the stock anyway. Yeah, but yeah, that whole situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's been a couple more missiles launched and

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<v Speaker 3>shot down since last week, and not much else. I

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<v Speaker 3>think both militaries are really itching to put some of

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<v Speaker 3>their equipment to the test and see how the other

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<v Speaker 3>side reacts. But they don't really want a full blown war.

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<v Speaker 3>They just really want to see how the other side reacts.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a big test in the whole world's watching,

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<v Speaker 3>same for Ukraine, same with Israel. Everyone's looking in at

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<v Speaker 3>how do these weapons systems actually perform? Because the manufacturers

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<v Speaker 3>always claim that they'll you know, take on the world, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but then in real life, you know American systems, French systems,

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<v Speaker 3>Russian systems, Chinese systems, all end up having drawbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that's the military dustro complex and not

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<v Speaker 1>just the American one whenever we say that. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course we're Americans, so we're a bit biased and skewed

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<v Speaker 1>in our perspective. And I get that. But the global

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<v Speaker 1>military industrial complex, the weapons manufacturers from around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>they like when wars pop off, not maybe not big,

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<v Speaker 1>long drawn out wars, but quick skirmishes that are super violent,

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. Absolutely, they could test their new hardware, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. They it's one thing to pump

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<v Speaker 1>it into a simulation and see what this jet is

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<v Speaker 1>able to do, what this anti rocket system is able

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's there's nothing like real boots on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>training in the field, you know what I mean. That

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<v Speaker 1>data is something that is invaluable to all types of

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<v Speaker 1>system development. So I get it now. I haven't looked

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<v Speaker 1>much into the Raffaula.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's their fighter. Yeah it's rafale. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 3>you're pronouncing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't looked into the data points for that jet itself.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I believe that's more of a fighter jet.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it's a stealth bomber and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it's a reconnaissance type of plane. But even still,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what that's compared against. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that France is saying that it's their fifth gen or

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<v Speaker 1>sixth gen, you know, best thing money can buy. But

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<v Speaker 1>in reality, like, how does that actually stack up against

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<v Speaker 1>what America would consider a sixth gen fighter? Because Russia

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<v Speaker 1>has a completely different understanding of what sixth gen means

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<v Speaker 1>than China. China has a completely different misunderstanding of what

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<v Speaker 1>that means.

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<v Speaker 2>In India, India has a completely you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Every country has classifications of what they call this generation.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually those don't see eye to eye.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what that compares against as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like the American jets that we have in combat

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<v Speaker 1>or in theater, so to speak. But okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying that Pakistan was able to shoot down two of

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<v Speaker 1>the fringe planes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was too at least confirmed with

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<v Speaker 3>the engines and raphale I just looked it up. It

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<v Speaker 3>came out in nineteen ninety one. I remember them from

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<v Speaker 3>older flight simulator video games, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>This is antiquated tech. This isn't cutting edge of shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh. I've heard that F sixteens are still like

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<v Speaker 3>highly respected and they're the number one fighter jet in

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<v Speaker 3>the world in terms of numbers. Everyone's got one, MiG

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nine is number two. I've heard nothing but great

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<v Speaker 3>things about F sixteen's. They're better than They're more maneuverable

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<v Speaker 3>than a lot of the newer stuff, more durable. They're

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<v Speaker 3>a little lower tech, but they can be upgraded. But

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<v Speaker 3>lower tech means less complicated and less prone to breaking down.

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<v Speaker 3>F twenty two I mean sorry that F war twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two is more expensive, but the F thirty five has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of complaints because of the maintenance crews that

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<v Speaker 3>need to be going around with them anywhere they go,

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<v Speaker 3>and F sixteen doesn't have that problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not Even when I was in the Marine Corps,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a grunt. I wasn an air wing guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But from what I was told, if we're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to compare side by side here, the F sixteen in

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<v Speaker 1>the modern airspace is kind of equivalent to the Sherman

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<v Speaker 1>tank of World War Two?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the greatest tank out there. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>The Panzer tank trounced it in every situation, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>it was cheap, it was reliable, you could mass produce them,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly, they did the job right. F Sixteen's from

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been told. And again I'm sure there's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the comments that's gonna say things and stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>they know more about planes than I do. Fine, not

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<v Speaker 1>an expert here, but from what I've been told, the

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<v Speaker 1>F sixteen has been around for quite some time. They're

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<v Speaker 1>tried and true, you know what I mean. They get

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<v Speaker 1>the job done. Are they the fastest, Are they the greatest?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they can they carry the most?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>But they are reliable, and there's enough of them to

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<v Speaker 1>go around to where you can buy one, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like nobody's buying the F thirty five. That's, if not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like America's premiere, latest and greatest, cutting edge technology.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're not gonna sell it to anybody until it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes antiquated. F sixteen it's been around for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the meg MiGs. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many people that watch top Gun right, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will original top gun right, not the new one,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will say, oh, well, the MiG is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>compared to American airlines, But I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, the MiG is also a very sophisticated plane and

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<v Speaker 1>it has nothing to turn your nose up at. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be cheaper to produce because it came from

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<v Speaker 1>Soviet air Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, fine, But like it's still an extremely capable fighter jet.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that being said, it's like, yeah, it might

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<v Speaker 1>be not as good quote unquote, it's better than the

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<v Speaker 1>jet that other countries have, which would be none.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, you know, everything with a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a grain of salt here.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, So you're saying that the rafale kind of

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<v Speaker 1>compares to the F sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say it kind of does. Another piece

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<v Speaker 3>of information I just read is that the US didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want India to use F sixteens against Pakistan. India's bought

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<v Speaker 3>some F sixteens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've heard similar things between the US and Ukraine

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<v Speaker 3>and Israel, where the US reserves the best of its

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<v Speaker 3>technology for itself and it doesn't want to give Ukraine

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<v Speaker 3>or Israel all the pass codes and passwords to get

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<v Speaker 3>all the upgrades that make it as good as it

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<v Speaker 3>can be. So maybe that's why the US was telling India,

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<v Speaker 3>don't use your F sixteens. So that's why India was

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<v Speaker 3>using the rafales even though they have F sixteens and

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<v Speaker 3>they could.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that would make sense. But same time, like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can understand, like because if it gets shot

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<v Speaker 1>down behind quote unquote behind enemy lines, right, our adversaries,

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<v Speaker 1>America's adversaries could take that and reverse engineer for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like the F sixteen is still got

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of state secrets about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been out and about for quite some time now.

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<v Speaker 1>The F thirty five, yeah, yeah, we don't want nobody

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<v Speaker 1>getting that. That's why we don't even let them come

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<v Speaker 1>out of the hangar except for training. Like, they have

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<v Speaker 1>yet to get a single interception on that platform, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to right until something is warranting that

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<v Speaker 1>level of aggression. But the F sixteen, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to me that they would tell them to hold

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<v Speaker 1>back on using those, because that's something that has been

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<v Speaker 1>understood reverse engineering. I mean, hell, war Thunder has an

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<v Speaker 1>F sixteen on their video game. It's not a state secret,

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<v Speaker 1>bind I mean, so that's kind of I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>But I just don't get it, you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wish I had more info, But that's about

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<v Speaker 3>it for Pakistan for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's about what I've heard. It's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a dick measuring contest at this time. They're both

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<v Speaker 1>kind of taking this opportunity to flex their wings a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>test their tech, test their military capabilities, kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing a little bit of a one up in game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know at this moment if this situation is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be wrapped up in six months. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>draws on for three, four or five years, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine situation seems to be. I can't make that judgment

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<v Speaker 1>call at this moment. I do know that India and

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan have been looking for a reason to take this

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level for quite some time. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, twenty nineteen they had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a skirmish. I think it was twenty thirteen they had

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<v Speaker 1>something similar happen. It's every few years they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>and this. The Kashmir region has been dispute for quite

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, since forty seven. Well, I'm actually kind of more

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<v Speaker 3>optimistic about this. I'm pretty pessimistic on a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>wars like Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Godza, But I'm optimistic that

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<v Speaker 3>this India Pakistan thing is wrapping up. They've gotten the

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be over really soon. My other

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<v Speaker 3>bet with regard to Russia is that it's we got

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<v Speaker 3>until March next year.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you'll have another year in it, because a

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<v Speaker 1>couple episodes ago you said six months?

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<v Speaker 2>What's changed your mind on this?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, that's like back in March you asked how

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<v Speaker 3>long do I think it'll go on? And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>let's I'd say another year, So that'll be March of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six. So I think I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sticking with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, maybe I'm trying to remember who it was that

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<v Speaker 1>said that it'd be done. Somebody said it was going

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<v Speaker 1>if that was on this show or if it was

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else that I heard, But what a horrible phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is that person? I considered that phrase before opening

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because, like every single war has always been said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's wrap it up by Christmas. Five years later, here

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<v Speaker 1>we are, I know, I know. But okay, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>still thinking that it's going to be springtime next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just kind of crazy because that's when.

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<v Speaker 1>Each side launches their spring offensive. You're saying that they're

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<v Speaker 3>I think that Ukraine is well. I thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>depleted a while ago, but I think they're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna cry Ontal and they're gonna want a PCD, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is now. In fact, I get the sense they're

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<v Speaker 3>already trying to do that. But Russia, to my chagrin,

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<v Speaker 3>actually is not taking them up on that pargain.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now. I don't know what Putin is hoping for.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's let's just assume that he is not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to take over the whole of Ukraine, Okay, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what at least one side of the isle believes. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just assume that that's not true, and he's only going

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<v Speaker 1>for the majority Russian speaking oblasty in Ukraine, and which

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<v Speaker 1>would be the sides that he's pretty much already taken

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<v Speaker 1>as of this moment. Is he holding out, like really,

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<v Speaker 1>you're holding out for a better deal than what's being

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<v Speaker 1>offered at this moment, Like, I don't, And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's like backdoor deals that the public is not privy to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see what more he stands to gain

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<v Speaker 1>unless he really trying to push all the way to Kiev.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he thinks he might be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>Arkov and Odessa, probably not Kiev, certainly not anything west

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<v Speaker 3>of Kiev. But that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in Odessa.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not right now? Okay, Okay, they Odessa. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they almost seceded back in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, after Crimea, they tried to seceed his Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm thinking here. So do we still have

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainians in the Curse region. I haven't checked in on

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<v Speaker 1>Kurskan a little bit. I know that they had you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they took a decent sized swath of land, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was pushback, pushback, push back to where it was

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<v Speaker 1>like three hundred square meters or something like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like barely any Russian territory was held by Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there currently still Russian territory held by Ukrainian forces?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ninety nine percent sure not. They've been kicked out.

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<v Speaker 3>I can check real quick, right though, right now though,

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<v Speaker 3>and get back to you on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, hit that Google real quick, because I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly have not. I haven't looked into Kurskan a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too much stuff going on around the world to

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<v Speaker 1>where the whole Ukraine Russia situation is kind of like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's the thing that's still happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's it. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. On X it looks like, okay, there might still

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit going on there, but they lost

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<v Speaker 3>the big city Suja. Ok So they're like ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the way out or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it say when they took back Suja, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say I heard about that.

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<v Speaker 2>A few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like a month ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I forget too.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's still that slow grinding, maybe gaining a meter

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of situation trench warfare going on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I'm seeing maps, but they're really zoomed in

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<v Speaker 3>and the Russia Ukraine borders right on the map. So

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<v Speaker 3>they've lost Suja according to Russia. Russia claims they inflicted

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<v Speaker 3>seventy six thousand casualties. You can do with that number

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you will, maybe divide it by three or something. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was bad for Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, got you all right, So getting back to the

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<v Speaker 1>chat here real quick, Tony. Also, you know the Circumcision

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<v Speaker 1>episode from Cosmic Peach I'm assuming was four hours long?

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<v Speaker 2>Wah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well yeah, to answer your question, Royce, before we

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<v Speaker 1>started shooting, you asked if I had gone and listened

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<v Speaker 1>to it. No, no, I have not, and I probably won't,

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<v Speaker 1>not because of having any kind of like beef with

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<v Speaker 1>Julia or nothing. I love her to desk. She's great,

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<v Speaker 1>she's cool, bro. I don't have four hours to sit

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to anything. I tell you what the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing I actually sat and really listened to was, And

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<v Speaker 1>it took me three days to listen to this, I

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<v Speaker 1>might add, was Wes Huff on The Flagrant Podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>And it took me days to listen to that, just

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<v Speaker 1>because I have to find thirty minutes of time, usually

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<v Speaker 1>driving when I don't have my kids in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously because we'd be jamming the music. But whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>driving by myself, it's pretty much the only time I

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<v Speaker 1>get to sit and listen to stuff. I very rarely

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<v Speaker 1>listen to my own show, like and like I said

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<v Speaker 1>before we started, if I if I think back on okay,

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<v Speaker 1>a point of continue between Jonathan and I or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to go back and make sure I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sound like I, you know, did my tone sound good?

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<v Speaker 2>Was the delivery good? Was this or this? I might

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<v Speaker 2>go back and find a section.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you last time I went back and

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<v Speaker 1>listened to an entire Cult to Conspiracy episode or a

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Knight episode, or any of our affiliates honestly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Josh Monday. I would love to go and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to his show, because the man is just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony also said, I talked with Josh Monday recently about numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you mean the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I meant the book. I was asking him because

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<v Speaker 3>I actually messaged him on Instagram a month ago and

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to check my messages again because I never

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<v Speaker 3>go on there. But that's like the only way to

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<v Speaker 3>connect with him anyway. What I was asking about was

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<v Speaker 3>the controversial alleged human sacrifice version verse in numbers thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of this human sacrifice from the Jews

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<v Speaker 1>or from their adversaries?

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<v Speaker 3>The alleged human sacrifice performed by Moses in Numbers, chapter

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<v Speaker 3>thirty one, verse forty. It's after it says that there

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<v Speaker 3>was a tribute to the Lord of sixty one thousand

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<v Speaker 3>donkeys and now like maybe sixty one hundred and so

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<v Speaker 3>many sheep and so many cows and then so many

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<v Speaker 3>thirty two Midianite virgins. And what does tribute actually mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Depending on how you interpret that word, it could mean

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<v Speaker 3>human sacrifice, or it could just mean, oh, they were

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<v Speaker 3>consecrated to the temple and served as temple slaves, or

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<v Speaker 3>something could be could be uh roy Carge might have

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<v Speaker 3>a comment about that, But I was talking about to

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<v Speaker 3>Josh one on one about it. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>blast us all over the internet, but well, here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm it's talking about in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, Josh Monday is absolutely the best of us, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I'm not saying he is the all

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<v Speaker 1>knower of things, but as far as getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>deeper understanding, especially on biblical texts like Oh my God,

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<v Speaker 1>I see him as such a source.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, he's just awesome. But Royce correspondent numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty ten thirty one, verse forty thirty one.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, give me a quick second, I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to look up the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, numbers thirty one forty And are you which version

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bible? I know it doesn't necessarily matter for

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<v Speaker 1>this one, but just so we're all on the same page.

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<v Speaker 2>Here were you looking at King James?

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<v Speaker 3>Oooh not me, I don't remember. Okay, if you google it,

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<v Speaker 3>Bible Gateway gives you all the translations for Yeah, in English,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole bunch o very.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, I just looked it up on Bible Gateway.

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<v Speaker 1>As matter of fact, King James and says and the

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<v Speaker 1>persons were sixteen thousand, of which the Lord's tribute was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and two persons ASV and the persons were sixteen thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>of whom Jehovah's tribute was thirty and two persons. Amp

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<v Speaker 1>the persons were sixteen thousand, for whom the lord's levee

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<v Speaker 2>That's another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, levy doesn't necessarily mean sacrifice. It could mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>also press ganged into service. You know, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the knights of all would bring their levees or their

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<v Speaker 1>servants with them. That was thirty two persons, But that

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<v Speaker 1>could be a translation issue.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of it talks about tribute.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see the CEV says here, each half included three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty seven five hundred sheep, excuse me, three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty seven thousand, five hundred sheep and goats,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six thousand cattle, thirty thousand, five hundred donkeys, and

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen thousand young women. From the half that belonged to

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<v Speaker 1>the soldiers, Moses counted out six hundred and seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>sheep and goats, seventy two cattles, sixty one donkeys, and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two women, and gave them to a laisar to

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<v Speaker 1>be dedicated to Lord. Then from the half that belonged

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<v Speaker 1>to the people. Moses set aside one out of every

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<v Speaker 1>fifty animals and women, as the Lord had said, and

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<v Speaker 1>gave them to his levites. Very interesting. Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 1>understand your reason of questioning. Does this mean human said definitely?

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<v Speaker 5>Not definitely, not definitely, And I there's I mean, Jews

423
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<v Speaker 5>are completely against it.

424
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<v Speaker 4>We don't. We don't believe in human.

425
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<v Speaker 5>Sacrifices, even even the one time that we're that there

426
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<v Speaker 5>was a quote unquote sacrifice, which was with isa Isaac,

427
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<v Speaker 5>and but God still stopped it. Like we don't believe

428
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<v Speaker 5>in that same thing with with drinking blood. It's like

429
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<v Speaker 5>we're we have a complete prohibition of drinking blood.

430
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<v Speaker 4>So like that's not a thing now.

431
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<v Speaker 3>With that being said, also okay, I mean I agree

432
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<v Speaker 3>that that's the way things are now. But it's hard

433
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<v Speaker 3>to tell what the text means, and it seems pretty ambiguous,

434
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<v Speaker 3>and I sure hope it means there's no sacrifice going

435
00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:07.319
<v Speaker 3>on back then. But human sacrifice was a tradition practically

436
00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.519
<v Speaker 3>everywhere in the world, probably everywhere in the world, including Europe,

437
00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.079
<v Speaker 3>the Americas, maybe East Asia. I don't know so much

438
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<v Speaker 3>about that, but if you go back you know far

439
00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.160
<v Speaker 3>enough it was a tradition everywhere.

440
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<v Speaker 4>That's not much us.

441
00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:23.759
<v Speaker 5>So for sure, I'm not arguing that it was done

442
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<v Speaker 5>in many cultures. But I mean, I've read the Tour

443
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<v Speaker 5>a number of times, and that there's no I don't

444
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<v Speaker 5>there's no commentary that I've ever read that says that

445
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<v Speaker 5>this is a human sacrifice.

446
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<v Speaker 3>Now, it's just when it says tribute to the sheep

447
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<v Speaker 3>and the everything else. You know, for the animals, that's

448
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<v Speaker 3>interpreted as some kind of burnt offering probably, but then

449
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.599
<v Speaker 3>for the people, we got to kind of interpret it differently.

450
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<v Speaker 3>And I wasn't there. I'm not one hundred percent sure

451
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<v Speaker 3>this all happened the way the way it's been pasted down,

452
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<v Speaker 3>but I sure hope there weren't sacrifices. And anyway, there

453
00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:08.799
<v Speaker 3>was one other human sacrifice part. It was this guy

454
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<v Speaker 3>named Jefftha in the Old Testament. But yeah, that wasn't

455
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<v Speaker 3>commanded by God either. That was something he did kind

456
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<v Speaker 3>of by accident, to my understanding.

457
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so all right, so I just looked up a

458
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<v Speaker 1>little bit more context to this one. And as far

459
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<v Speaker 1>as Jeff that goes, if I'm not mistaken, he did

460
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<v Speaker 1>that kind of out of like. I don't want to

461
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<v Speaker 1>use the term bloodlust. It's been a while since I

462
00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>read that parable in that story and everything, but like

463
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<v Speaker 1>fair enough, So all right, in numbers thirty one forty

464
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<v Speaker 1>this is from Kor. As a matter of fact, what

465
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<v Speaker 1>was the meaning of this? How was it worked out?

466
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<v Speaker 1>Why were thirty two chosen for the lord? And what

467
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<v Speaker 1>did he do with them?

468
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<v Speaker 2>It says the spoils of war.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Those thirty two people were the text to the levites,

470
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<v Speaker 1>or what would also be called tithe I believe, to

471
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<v Speaker 1>be put to work caring for the tabernacle.

472
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<v Speaker 2>It was all there, It was all there earlier in

473
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<v Speaker 2>the chapter.

474
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<v Speaker 1>So in number thirty one twenty seven, divide what is

475
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<v Speaker 1>plundered into two parts, to be shared between those in

476
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<v Speaker 1>the army who took part in the battle and all

477
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the assembly. Twenty eight As a tax

478
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<v Speaker 1>for Jehovah, you should take from the soldiers who went

479
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<v Speaker 1>out into the battle one soul out of every five

480
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<v Speaker 1>hundred of the people. The herd, the excuse me, the herd,

481
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<v Speaker 1>the donkeys, and the flock. You should take it from

482
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<v Speaker 1>their half to give it to Eliazar the priest as

483
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<v Speaker 1>Jehovah's contribution verse thirty. From the half given to the Israelites,

484
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<v Speaker 1>you should take one out of fifty of the people,

485
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<v Speaker 1>the herd, the donkeys, the flock, and every sort of

486
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<v Speaker 1>domestic animal, and give them to the Levites who care

487
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<v Speaker 1>for the responsibilities connected with Jehovah's tabernacle.

488
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<v Speaker 2>So then it goes on in thirty one.

489
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Moses and Eliezar the priest did just as

490
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<v Speaker 1>Jehovah had commanded Moses in verse thirty two. The spoils

491
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the plunder that the people of the

492
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<v Speaker 1>expedition had t an amounted to, And those were the

493
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<v Speaker 1>big numbers that gave earlier six hundred and seventy five

494
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<v Speaker 1>thousand of the flock, thirty three thousand and seventy two

495
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<v Speaker 1>of the herd, thirty four and sixty one thousand donkeys

496
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<v Speaker 1>verse thirty five. The women who had not had sexual

497
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<v Speaker 1>relations with a man amounted to thirty two thousand women

498
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<v Speaker 1>verse thirty six. And the half that was to share

499
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<v Speaker 1>of those who went out into the battle amounted to

500
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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and thirty seven thousand, five hundred of the flock.

501
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 1>The tax for Jehovah from the flock amounted to six

502
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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five verse thirty eight. And there were

503
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<v Speaker 1>thirty six thousand of the herd, and the tax from

504
00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:43.319
<v Speaker 1>them from Jehovah was seventy two verse thirty nine. And

505
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<v Speaker 1>there was thirty thousand, five hundred donkeys, and the tax

506
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of them for Jehovah was sixty one and verse forty.

507
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<v Speaker 1>And there was sixteen thousand humans, and the tax on

508
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<v Speaker 1>them for Jehovah was thirty two persons verse thirty or

509
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<v Speaker 1>forty one. Then Moses gave the t as Jehovah's contribution

510
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<v Speaker 1>to Elie's R, the priest, just as Jehovah had commanded

511
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<v Speaker 1>Moses so. And to the point here, Yeah, I could

512
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<v Speaker 1>see why you would put them as servants of the

513
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 1>temple in one regard. However, if you're kind of forced

514
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<v Speaker 1>into service of the temple, I don't feel like your

515
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>heart would be in it. But I also don't know

516
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 1>all of what went into the upkeep of the tabernacle. Right,

517
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about the finished temple. We're talking about

518
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<v Speaker 1>when it was still a series of tints and things.

519
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<v Speaker 2>So is it possible that these thirty two.

520
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<v Speaker 1>People were put to work you know, breaking down and

521
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<v Speaker 1>rebuilding the tent everywhere they went. I could see that

522
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<v Speaker 1>being a possibility.

523
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<v Speaker 4>Royce your thoughts, I mean, that's it could be a possibility.

524
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I will have to look greater in depth.

525
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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to look at give if there's any commentary

526
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<v Speaker 5>that I can find on it.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Because the Book of Numbers, this is your torah, this

528
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<v Speaker 2>is your shit.

529
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<v Speaker 5>No, no, for sure, which is the reason why I'm like,

530
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<v Speaker 5>I've read the Tour a number of times and nobody

531
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 5>has ever written that this is I think, as you

532
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 5>said before, when they say a tribute, I think it's

533
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:14.000
<v Speaker 5>more putting them.

534
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 4>To work that but not for sure, not sacrifices.

535
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<v Speaker 1>And I mean the Levites were the priests, so they

536
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 1>were not allowed to have land, they were not allowed

537
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 1>to farm. And as far as having slaves slash servants,

538
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>because correct me if I'm wrong, the Hebrew word for

539
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>slave and servant is the same word.

540
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Context tells you what the difference is between the two.

541
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, right, So for the Levite priests to have

542
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.799
<v Speaker 1>let's even say one hundred slaves slash servants, they would

543
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 1>only be performing.

544
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Like basically sub priestly duties.

545
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't be working fields, they wouldn't be mending fences,

546
00:27:55.799 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be you know, collecting tides and tributes things

547
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>like that. For that, I guess they would just be

548
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of doing the grunt labor of the temples in

549
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:07.279
<v Speaker 1>the tabernacle.

550
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Was correct.

551
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<v Speaker 5>No, So as far as like was to say, if

552
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<v Speaker 5>a Levite or Cohen had a slave, they would not

553
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:20.160
<v Speaker 5>be doing anything of the officiation. They would they would

554
00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.680
<v Speaker 5>like if it was, it would be in their house,

555
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 5>so like basically it'd be a house.

556
00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 4>Servant or slave. But definitely not because the.

557
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 5>Only people that were allowed to officiate were the Levites

558
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 5>and the Cohens, and they each had different drip of roles.

559
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 5>With the Cohen the Kohanim were actually the ones who

560
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 5>performed the sacrifices, and then the Levites the Levine were

561
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 5>the ones who sang and they chanted during that point,

562
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 5>and they like they assisted.

563
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Also another question, now, the terms or at least the

564
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 1>terms of agreement so to speak for slaves slash servants,

565
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<v Speaker 1>Correct me if I'm wrong, but it couldn't exceed seven

566
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 1>years in the most extreme cases, it could only go

567
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 1>to fourteen years.

568
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Would these people have been okay? Explain this to me now.

569
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 6>So if.

570
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Like wasn't it generally sold.

571
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>Himself into slavery for a life, and then the dead

572
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of duped him and gave him the older sister.

573
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So he had to resell himself to the dead to

574
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 1>slavery for seven more years to get it right.

575
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 5>But he wasn't like, he wasn't a slaver, a servant

576
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 5>as far as the tour was concerned, as far as that,

577
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.759
<v Speaker 5>but no, like generally, what that term is used for

578
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 5>is if let's just say, if you.

579
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 4>Stole something and you didn't have the means to pay.

580
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 5>It back, you would then sell yourself to slay or

581
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 5>to try to pay off that debt.

582
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, That the honorable way to pay off that debt, right.

583
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 4>More or less.

584
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 5>But if you wanted to go past it, then you

585
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 5>would have an all drilled through your ear.

586
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 4>And then he could continue being a servant.

587
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 7>Say that again, an awl like so like you you

588
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 7>would basically be put on the door post and like

589
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 7>they would nail something through your ear and give you

590
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:09.640
<v Speaker 7>like an earring if you want to if if after

591
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 7>that seven years period of time, if you still wanted

592
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 7>to continue to serve that person, then you were allowed

593
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 7>to basically become a servant basically almost indefinitely.

594
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:26.559
<v Speaker 2>So basically are we talking like a gauge.

595
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<v Speaker 4>Whatever gauge and all would be I mean probably, I

596
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know, maybe eighth di minage. I have no idea.

597
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And I said the term, I said Jacob was

598
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<v Speaker 1>the one that did that. I don't actually know that

599
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>off top, has been a while since I read into

600
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 1>the ot.

601
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<v Speaker 2>Now I know that that was a that was one

602
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>of them.

603
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 1>He he sold himself into the servanthood of the Dad

604
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>to do all of that.

605
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.079
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, but.

606
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 5>Okay, and Lovin tried try to screw out of a

607
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 5>lot of things and just and Jacob was was was

608
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:58.160
<v Speaker 5>actually able to.

609
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 4>Get out of there with a lot of wealth thanks

610
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 4>to God's help.

611
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, for sure, So that was Jacob. I

612
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was thinking, Yes, okay, I was on point. Okay, because

613
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>because they called Jacob a trickster and he wasn't. I mean,

614
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>because even in the songs that says you should deal

615
00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 1>cunning to those who tried to deal with you cunningly.

616
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.039
<v Speaker 1>So if you if you're dealing with the swiller, then

617
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to swindle them.

618
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough.

619
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>So now, yeah, I'm wondering if these religious servants would

620
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>have or house slaves as we could call them. I

621
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 1>wonder if their term of service was a lifelong term

622
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 1>or because it was a spoils of war type of situation,

623
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>or if.

624
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 5>There's a different So there's there's also different I'm sorry,

625
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 5>there's also difference between a Jewish servants lash slave and

626
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 5>some like a servant like for.

627
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 4>A spoil of war. That's that's a completely different thing.

628
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 4>A a spoiler of war.

629
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 5>There's no such thing as seven years like basically up

630
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 5>until you free them.

631
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was a lifelong occupation, so yes, okay.

632
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 5>And and then you can have like children and their children, so.

633
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, And that what happened

634
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<v Speaker 1>with Abraham and Sarah. It was her handmaid slash slave

635
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 1>slash servant.

636
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 4>What what what about how Gar?

637
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>That was That's what I'm saying.

638
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>That was Abraham and that was Sarah's handmaid, that was

639
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 1>her servant. And depending on the context, that term being

640
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 1>slave or servant, but same thing and correct.

641
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 2>The man of that.

642
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Situation could have well, Sarah gave him permission to go

643
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>fuck Hey, Gar, let's be honest here, like she she

644
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>told him to do that because she was not.

645
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 5>So I hold up, But but God also told him, hey,

646
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 5>listen to your wife, So it wasn't it wasn't just her, Like,

647
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 5>I understand that argument, Like, but I'm not saying whether

648
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 5>whether Sarah was right, right or wrong. But now the case, basically,

649
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 5>God still gave is approbation. He's like, He's listened to her,

650
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 5>and you will still be a father of many nations.

651
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I've understood that too.

652
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Like, and even if I'm not putting fault on Sarah, right,

653
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting fault any I'm not putting fault anybody

654
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there.

655
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not the guy to start throwing guilt on anyone.

656
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Here, I'm throwing a rock inside of a glasshouse with

657
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>very thin walls.

658
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Here, I get this. But that being said, like, Sarah

659
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>was also way up.

660
00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>There in age, So whenever she told Abraham to do this,

661
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't because some sort of weird guilt trip or

662
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>some sort of weird cuck situation.

663
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.519
<v Speaker 2>It was because the will of God needed to be done.

664
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>And since probably not happening from my womb, let's try

665
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to make it happen this way, it was.

666
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>It was you know, I see the nuances with it

667
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 2>for sure, but yeah, it.

668
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Was a change. But did you hear about the sixty

669
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 3>six year old German woman who just had her tenth

670
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 3>child naturally well actually see section but without any fertility enhancements.

671
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:00.920
<v Speaker 3>That's as old as my mom.

672
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, East German Wilmhen they're just built different. Boy.

673
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm oh, hell, goa's out there still getting after it, boy,

674
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 1>tenth child at.

675
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Sixty sixty six, she was as old as my mom.

676
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Good for her.

677
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Good for her, still getting at it and not just

678
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>like not just you know, pro creating, but like producing

679
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 1>a child and bringing all the way through the whole nine.

680
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, please, Raven Lee, you being the doula and

681
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>having so much background with birthing practices, a sixty six

682
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 1>year old this is that's not like unheard of. But

683
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>also that's pretty wild.

684
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 8>There's actually been quite a few mothers, so technical grandmothers

685
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Speaker 8>that have carried their grandchildren for their children because they

686
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 8>could not the wives could not be able to carry

687
00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 8>the babies, and it's either their their daughter or their

688
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 8>husband's you know wife and stuff, and they end up

689
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.480
<v Speaker 8>carrying the child. There's there's quite a few stories been

690
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 8>happening of that, and they're like in their sixties seventies

691
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 8>carrying children. And there's that grandma that just made like

692
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.400
<v Speaker 8>all over TikTok and Instagram. It's like, what I think,

693
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 8>she's like seventy one that just had like another child.

694
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 8>And the woman that holds the record for the most children.

695
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 8>I think her last baby, I want to say, is

696
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.599
<v Speaker 8>like either sixty nine or seventy was like her last child,

697
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.440
<v Speaker 8>and she had like an obscene amount of children. Like

698
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 8>how her uters didn't blow up, like straight up, Like

699
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 8>I don't know how she did that.

700
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But there are women that's good.

701
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 8>Look, there are women that are able to have oh shit,

702
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 8>that are able to have lots of like babies like

703
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 8>into their later times. Like it wasn't until men like

704
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 8>and it wasn't until like obi started to change, is

705
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 8>when like the geriatric term came about, right, So, like

706
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 8>geriatric terms starts at thirty five now, so you're a

707
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 8>thirty five year old and you're geriatric.

708
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>That blows my mind also because and before I even

709
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>heard about the sixties and seventy year olds having babies,

710
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>which I'm still having a hard time really putting all

711
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>those pieces together in my brain. Gonna be honest with you,

712
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 1>but all right, I know personally women in their early

713
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>forties that have had children successfully, and I know there's

714
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna be people out there, well, they were on bed

715
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>rest for nine months. No, No, they weren't. They were

716
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>still working and working out and doing their thing. They

717
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>were healthy. Now I understand that it's case by case.

718
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but like to say that thirty five

719
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>is considered geriatric for child rearing, I think.

720
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 2>That's a bit. That's a bit, it's incorrect.

721
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 8>It's because of so like your hormones some people, because

722
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 8>and it all kind of contributes into what they're putting

723
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 8>in our food and stuff like that. Sure, so it

724
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 8>starts pre menopausal symptoms, it can be so.

725
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Menimosus usually hit women, and I thought this was somewhere around.

726
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.280
<v Speaker 8>The late forties early fifties is when it normally starts.

727
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:16.400
<v Speaker 8>But honestly, like my generation has started to see premenopausal

728
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 8>symptoms as early as like thirty four years old because

729
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 8>of the increased eschigen and all the food and what

730
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 8>they're putting in stuff. So it's kind of contributing. Like

731
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.400
<v Speaker 8>just on that same hand, how little girls are now

732
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 8>starting to see more puberty happening at nine, ten years

733
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.440
<v Speaker 8>old instead of thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old. Sure, it's

734
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 8>it's like it's the same thing.

735
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>So so thirty years from now, this nine year old

736
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that's going through puberty right now will start seeing metopausal

737
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>things about like thirty five, thirty nine.

738
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 2>They could be really experiencing metopause.

739
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 8>Yes, they really can be. And there's a lot more

740
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 8>women that have been experiencing breast cancer and ovarying cancer

741
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 8>earlier and earlier because of a lot of contributing factors

742
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 8>in the environment or food or water and stuff like that.

743
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:11.840
<v Speaker 8>And so the whole idea behind the you know, geriatric

744
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 8>is because you do start to lose your eggs, Like

745
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.679
<v Speaker 8>your eggs aren't as viable sure as you are when

746
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 8>you're nineteen twenty years old. But I know tons of

747
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:25.360
<v Speaker 8>women and I actually belong to an old it's called

748
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.679
<v Speaker 8>an old Mom's group. It's a lot of women that

749
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:30.840
<v Speaker 8>are over thirty five years old. It's all women over

750
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 8>thirty five that have been pregnant, and tons of women

751
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 8>have just started having babies at forty years old. But

752
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 8>in America, it's like this whole taboo thing of like,

753
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 8>oh my god, you're forty, you're gonna die, you need

754
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 8>a C section, your body can't handle it. But these

755
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 8>women are perfectly fine too.

756
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>As far as the obgy ns and genders, me and

757
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you have had this discussion before offline. It blows my

758
00:38:56.639 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>mind how many men there are in the gynecology field.

759
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>That that's a bit insulting in my personal opinion strictly

760
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>because like that's like me, I have a beard. If

761
00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to a barber to get my beard trimmed,

762
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to be a woman. I want

763
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it to be a guy, you know, with a beard.

764
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That that would make sense to me. In other countries,

765
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.559
<v Speaker 1>is obg y ns and gynecology seen more as a

766
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>female craft or is that the male dominated field. Is

767
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 1>that more of an American and Western thing or is

768
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that pretty much worldwide standard these days?

769
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 8>So the male men being present in OBI actually started

770
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 8>a long time ago, and so they it's more inherently

771
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 8>towards England. Scotland is where it originated, and then it

772
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 8>transferred over to America. There are doctors like in other

773
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.880
<v Speaker 8>places that are OB's that are men, but they I've

774
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 8>noticed that a lot of more cultures that are more

775
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 8>centralized around feminine health and like feminine like energy, they

776
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 8>tend to have mostly women. We tend to have mostly

777
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 8>men because inherently, the patriarchy is what wanted to dominate,

778
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 8>and that's what's kind of been the thing, and women

779
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 8>were you know, you're less educated, you're not as you know,

780
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.679
<v Speaker 8>we we know what's best for your body. It's kind

781
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 8>of been the standard for a long time years ago.

782
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, right, because now we're the ones that

783
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>were going to college and could read and all these things.

784
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Like, I get that.

785
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.159
<v Speaker 1>But even today, you would think, in even in Western

786
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 1>society and in America and in Europe, you would think that,

787
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.559
<v Speaker 1>especially nowadays, with women being so empowered and having so

788
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.159
<v Speaker 1>many more opportunities available to them now than they have

789
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>had arguably in the last thousand years, you would think

790
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that they would be kind of taking back that title.

791
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:56.239
<v Speaker 8>They are, Yeah, slowly, they slowly. But there are amazing

792
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 8>male obs. My mom had an amazing male obi for

793
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 8>forty something years, doctor Dickerson. That is a fantastic man,

794
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 8>and he actually opened up the birth center of Baton Rouge.

795
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 8>He is very natural minded and like he is one

796
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.760
<v Speaker 8>of the best doctors I've ever seen. So I don't

797
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 8>think it's really down to the gender. I've seen terrible

798
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 8>obs that are females, like god awful, should never practice

799
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 8>on females period into story, and I've seen amazing male doctors.

800
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.320
<v Speaker 8>So I don't think it's a gender thing. I think

801
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 8>it's really comes down to the person and what they feel.

802
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.960
<v Speaker 8>I do think that we have a technocratic way of

803
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.000
<v Speaker 8>looking at things here in America instead of they really

804
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 8>shun the natural way of doing things, and they really

805
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 8>hyper emphasize the fact that people need medication and they

806
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 8>need you know, pain medication, and women can't do this

807
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 8>and you know, it's just so painful, instead of encouraging

808
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.679
<v Speaker 8>and supporting women that they can actually do birth naturally

809
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 8>and that we are made to do this, not all women,

810
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.320
<v Speaker 8>Like the percentage of women that actually have a pelvis

811
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 8>set is too small, is quite low. But they have

812
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.559
<v Speaker 8>gone with that narrative very hard, and so people just

813
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 8>need to actually do a lot more research. But I

814
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 8>will say in the last decade that women have started

815
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 8>to take back birth in the Western cultures and are

816
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 8>doing more natural methods and going more natural that's why

817
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.960
<v Speaker 8>the hospitals are including water bursts and tubs and are

818
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 8>allowing you to have the monitors that are free moving

819
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 8>instead of attached to a monitor where you can't get

820
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 8>out of bed. So things that are progressing, it's just

821
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 8>very slowly. So we're progressing, but we're reverting back to

822
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 8>what was inherently the way to give birth, which is

823
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 8>very interesting.

824
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Now let me ask you this from again from your experience,

825
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 1>because you at one time were adula, You've worked in

826
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>midwifery for years. Let me ask you this the as

827
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 1>far as the more natural and the older ways of childbirth,

828
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>are some of these I could understand as being seen

829
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 1>as arcane? And I guess my question is does it

830
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>depend on where the source is from to dictate whether

831
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 1>it is being implemented more these days?

832
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Like water birth's fine, absolutely, why not?

833
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 1>But I could imagine that there's probably some birthing practices

834
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that is being used in parts of the world right

835
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 1>now that would seem barbaric to Americans today, whether it's

836
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 1>female centric or not.

837
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Are we seeing that they're kind of accepting all the above.

838
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>As far as the older and more traditional natural quote

839
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>unquote ways, are they being selective with which things they're

840
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:48.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to implement in America.

841
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:51.480
<v Speaker 8>So to get things implemented in America, you have to

842
00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 8>have a lot of clinical studies and trials done, and

843
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 8>that is quite difficult. Actually, one of the midwives here

844
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 8>in the SA Louisiana has been working for a good

845
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 8>number of years to prove that v backs are safe.

846
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 8>So that's a vaginal birth after cesareans in water at

847
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 8>home and what she has to what she's been doing

848
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.360
<v Speaker 8>is having to take her clients because it's illegal here

849
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 8>in the state and it's not legal everywhere else.

850
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>What is v backs, So that having a vaginal birth

851
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.320
<v Speaker 1>after a C section is illegal in Louisiana.

852
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 8>It's illegal to have at home with a midwife. So

853
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.239
<v Speaker 8>they're very selected. So the wording is very careful, and

854
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 8>it's to do to complications like that. Yes, there can

855
00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:39.039
<v Speaker 8>be extreme complications, sure, but the problem is is that

856
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 8>you have to have scientific data. But how do you

857
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 8>get scientific data when it is not acceptable, when it

858
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 8>is against the law to have it. And it's kind

859
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 8>of one of those things where they pick and choose.

860
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.920
<v Speaker 8>When I say they, I'm talking about the national associations

861
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 8>of like OB and like ebs ceterric. Since staff they

862
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:04.039
<v Speaker 8>pick and choose what they feel is necessary. But overseas

863
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 8>they are doing more clinical trials and producing more more

864
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 8>information to be able to try to allow other countries

865
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 8>to add in things I wouldn't say things are barbaric.

866
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.960
<v Speaker 8>A lot of the countries that practice mainly the postpartum

867
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 8>practices are what considered barbaric. So like in certain cultures

868
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 8>they are inherent to ignore the women's please of like

869
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.360
<v Speaker 8>I'm really sick, I'm passing a lot of blood dot

870
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:40.880
<v Speaker 8>dot dot, And so how the morbidity rates rise is

871
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 8>because of cultural beliefs and like you have the devil

872
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.880
<v Speaker 8>within you, so we're gon, we're going to call someone

873
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 8>over here, and so those are where you see it.

874
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:55.119
<v Speaker 8>Birth inherently seems to be kind of a method where

875
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 8>everybody understands a lot. Like women need to move. They

876
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 8>inherently understand in an unconscious way of like I need

877
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.360
<v Speaker 8>to get up, I need to move, I need to

878
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 8>do this. And a lot of the hospitals they want

879
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 8>to shap you to a bed, put you on your back,

880
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 8>which is not an optimal position. To give birth in

881
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 8>hands and knees is the best position so there's a

882
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.679
<v Speaker 8>lot of pushback lately. When I say lately, over the

883
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 8>last I would say at least as far as I've

884
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 8>been in it, so eight years. The last eight years,

885
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 8>I've seen a growing trend of women standing up and saying, no,

886
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 8>this is incorrect. I want my own autonomy, I want

887
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.039
<v Speaker 8>to be able to birth the way I want a birth,

888
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 8>and I do not want these things done to me.

889
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 8>There is a lot of it's called birth rape or

890
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 8>birth trauma, depending on the way you want to talk

891
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 8>about it is where things are done to their bodies

892
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:53.199
<v Speaker 8>that are against their will or not discussed before they're done,

893
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 8>and that kind of happens. And so that's gaining those

894
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 8>conversations are gaining popularity. Free birth is gaining popularity, and

895
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.800
<v Speaker 8>that can be very dangerous because these women are birthing

896
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.760
<v Speaker 8>at home with no birth attendance, that have medical training period.

897
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 8>They're just going at it and just like hoping for

898
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 8>the best, which I've seen a lot of beautiful videos,

899
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 8>but also you have to be very careful because it

900
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.400
<v Speaker 8>can go from amazing to dangerous in a matter of

901
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 8>a minute.

902
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I.

903
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 8>Don't advise it for that, but I definitely say that

904
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 8>there's a lot to do with birth culture, and like

905
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 8>I could talk forever and I'm not going to take

906
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 8>up your whole time about it, but it is definitely

907
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 8>our thing. It is gaining popularity, the conversation to become

908
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 8>more natural thankfully.

909
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I agree. And that seems like you said,

910
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.400
<v Speaker 2>it's becoming.

911
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 1>More widely accepted and more talked about to do natural childbirth,

912
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 1>or at least more women are wanting to attempt it now,

913
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>depending on what area of the country are in. A

914
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:05.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of women say they would like to do an

915
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 1>all natural childbirth, and then when they when rubber really

916
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>meets the road, they say, screw that, give me drugs,

917
00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>give me a sea section, and just get it out

918
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of me. And you know, and I'm not I am

919
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:19.519
<v Speaker 1>not disparaging women who need to have a sea section.

920
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I you know, three of my children have been through

921
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 1>sea section. They're all healthy and happy, so like there's

922
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.199
<v Speaker 1>no shade being thrown here. But I am seeing more,

923
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of more these days of women who are

924
00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 1>going out of their way to try to do everything

925
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 1>they can to have natural childbirths, whether that be at

926
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 1>home or at a birthing center, or even at a hospital.

927
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Women are wanting to do it the natural way, the

928
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 1>traditional way more in the last decade, and that makes

929
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 1>me happy.

930
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:54.119
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, there's it depends on the culture, so like

931
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 8>I can't like it depends on the culture. Considering like

932
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 8>there is a lot of women in the South that

933
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.199
<v Speaker 8>tend we have the highest sea section rate in Louisiana

934
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 8>out of the country. Now that can be from a

935
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 8>cultural view, that can be from the doctor point of view.

936
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of contributing factors to that. I will

937
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 8>say that there is a growing trend of women here

938
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 8>that would like natural. There is also still the very

939
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 8>present My aunt, my mama, and my grandma did this,

940
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 8>and I'm going to do this too. So I'm going

941
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.920
<v Speaker 8>to have a sea section because I can put it

942
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.000
<v Speaker 8>on the books. I'm going to take the epidural because

943
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.840
<v Speaker 8>you know, this is what everyone else did and I

944
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 8>don't want to feel pain. Which is that's the case

945
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 8>that a woman wants to do, then that's her freedom

946
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 8>and her right to do that, And I have no

947
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 8>I don't judge and I have no feelings towards it.

948
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 8>You know, if the baby's born healthy and the mom

949
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 8>is healthy, that's the best thing. Possible. I will say

950
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 8>where I am from on the West Coast, it is

951
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 8>very very heavy natural based. We're very crunchy, we're very uh,

952
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.519
<v Speaker 8>we're very like have a baby in the in the

953
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 8>water kind of vibe in the river, you know, Like

954
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 8>that's just but it's a cultural thing, and that's just

955
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 8>not just seen here in America. That's seen globally of

956
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 8>different sections of where people have different types of birth.

957
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 8>So people are moving towards going back to being healthy.

958
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 8>And that's not just with birth. That's with food, that's

959
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.519
<v Speaker 8>with growing with food, like growing your food. That's with

960
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 8>questioning what they're putting in the food and water supply,

961
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 8>like you know RFK, taking out the you know, the

962
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 8>dyes and stuff. That's a huge power move to being like,

963
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 8>look at what this is doing to our children, look

964
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 8>at the what this is doing to us. And it's

965
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 8>all based on each other. Because whatever we consume as women,

966
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:56.000
<v Speaker 8>that goes into our babies, and that does inherently change

967
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 8>the genetic makeup of what's being done as they're growing.

968
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.960
<v Speaker 8>So a lot of things are shifting very much.

969
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So you know what, this is actually a perfect segue

970
00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 1>to one of the articles I have pulled up here

971
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, speaking on RFK and all

972
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the things that he is doing. So he just decided

973
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 1>that he is going to be banning like thirty five

974
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.679
<v Speaker 1>different types of food. These foods will be banned under

975
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 1>RFK Junior. This is from a lot Living dot alt

976
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>dot com. RFK Junior has been nominated as the next

977
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services under

978
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the upcoming Trump administration. So I do believe there's an

979
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 1>older article, but these are some of the things that

980
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>he is going to be banning. Mountain dew because of

981
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the dies, if I'm not mistaken. Another one is candy.

982
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 1>There are certain types of candies and flavors that use

983
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>dyes and flavorings that are chemicals that are not good

984
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>for our bodies.

985
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Chee its chee.

986
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 1>It's a flavor snack uses artificial colors like yellow number

987
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 1>six to achieve their iconic look. However, studies have linked

988
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:01.760
<v Speaker 1>such dies to allergic actions and behavior changes in children,

989
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 1>raising concerns among health advocates and consumers alike. Which sucks

990
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 1>because I love cheese its McDonald's. He is trying to

991
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 1>change menu options, if not trying to bam McDonald's completely.

992
00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how well it's going to go, but

993
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll see French fries something else. He's trying to get

994
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>rid of ketchup and if not mistaken, thiss yep, it's here.

995
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 1>It's offer relies on high fruitos, corn syrup, and artificial

996
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 1>preservatives and flavors of shelf life. These ads have been

997
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>linked to chronic conditions like obesity and diabetes, raining concerns

998
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>or raising concerns among health advocates. And yeah, for the record,

999
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 1>if anybody is unaware, yo, go check out the nutrition

1000
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>facts on your ketchup.

1001
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 2>There is way more sugar in that than what needs

1002
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to be.

1003
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Traditional ketchups are actually like legit like mushroom based ketchups

1004
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 1>are so good, but they keep going for the brown

1005
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>sugar based ones like we have today.

1006
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

1007
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Ice cream again, not really happy about that, but RFK

1008
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is waging a war against ice cream right now as well.

1009
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Skittles again for the red dye number forty and yellow

1010
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:08.159
<v Speaker 1>number five.

1011
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Instant noodles.

1012
00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 1>He's hitting on the college kids now, so yeah, he's

1013
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>basically going after top ramen and other types of instant

1014
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.639
<v Speaker 1>noodles because to be fair, if you look at the

1015
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>nutrition facts on this one as well, and how they're made.

1016
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 1>That's like sixty percent wax in these instant noodles. They're

1017
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 1>not exactly like grain based noodles or even rice based noodles.

1018
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:32.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty much wax, and like, we know that

1019
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:36.559
<v Speaker 1>it's not healthy. But RFK has decided that he's gonna

1020
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 1>do some things to try to stop that lucky charms.

1021
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 1>This is also for yellow number five and red dye

1022
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>number forty. Not to mention the fact that there are marshmallows,

1023
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>which leads me to well, I'm gone to it to

1024
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 1>many he's trying to ban marshmallows.

1025
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that. Lunch meats.

1026
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Lunch meat is a staple for packed lunches across the

1027
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>United States. Where will we be if it couldn't If

1028
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't make our kids quick turkey and cheese sandwiches. Well,

1029
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.639
<v Speaker 1>with the new administration and the new food safety regulation,

1030
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.719
<v Speaker 1>we might have to figure out what to do instead.

1031
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Processed meats like deli meats and hot dogs use preservatives

1032
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>such as nitrates and nitrates. Nitrates and nitrites, excuse me,

1033
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to maintain color and freshness. These chemicals have already been

1034
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.880
<v Speaker 1>banned in other countries because of links to higher risk

1035
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of certain cancers. Processed cheeses yep Craft singles They're about

1036
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:26.119
<v Speaker 1>to go by the wayside if far if Cake gets

1037
00:54:26.119 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>his way.

1038
00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Frozen dinners.

1039
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not too mad about this, but there's tons of

1040
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>single men out there that are Frozen Dinnors often rely

1041
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:37.159
<v Speaker 1>on artificial flavors, preservatives, and coloring agents to maintain taste

1042
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and appearance, but these additives have been tied to health

1043
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>concerns such as obesity and high sodium intake.

1044
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah again, that kind of makes sense.

1045
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Red Bull A drinks like Red Bull are known for

1046
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 1>their high caffeine and sugar content, which have been linked

1047
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to health issues such as hard problems and obesity. Shirtter

1048
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 1>food regulations could target these ingredients from prompting increased scrutiny

1049
00:54:58.679 --> 00:54:59.880
<v Speaker 1>from health advocates.

1050
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Flavored yogurt.

1051
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Flavored yogurts off rely on artificial sweeteners and colors to

1052
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>enhance taste and appearances, special specifically to target children, but

1053
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 1>these additives have been linked to health concerns like metabolic

1054
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 1>issues and allergic reactions. Farmed salmon. Wild salmon is fine,

1055
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 1>but apparently farmed salmon. He's saying no more to give

1056
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:25.000
<v Speaker 1>farm salmon its famous pink color. The fish is often

1057
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:32.119
<v Speaker 1>fed synthetic ass stuff as taxathlene. Sure, I am butchering

1058
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that pronunciation. Basically, they're fed synthetic materials, a practice raising

1059
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 1>concerns about potential health effects and transparency.

1060
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Stricter regulations under RFK Junior could lead to scrutiny.

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00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Of such additives in a aquaculture. Artificial sweeteners. I'm here

1062
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:52.400
<v Speaker 1>for that ban. All of the artificial sweeteners like aspartame

1063
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and sucralose are common in sugar free food and drinks.

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00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Both studies have shown that they can cause gut problems

1065
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 1>or affect how our bodies handle sugar. Stricter rules could

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00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:04.159
<v Speaker 1>mean a closer look at their safety. Not to mention,

1067
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.119
<v Speaker 1>there has been so many links to brain cancer when

1068
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 1>it comes to aspartame and sucralose. Microwave popcorn. Microwave popcorn

1069
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.800
<v Speaker 1>bags often contain pfo AA chemical link to health risks

1070
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like cancer and thyroid issues. Strict regulate good Lord, I

1071
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:26.000
<v Speaker 1>can't speak. Stricter regulations may push manufacturers to eliminate these substances,

1072
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 1>raising questions about safety of everyday snacks, frozen pizza. Frozen

1073
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 1>pizzas often contain sodium nitrite in processed meats preserved as

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00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 1>linked to potential cancer risk and cardiovascular concerns.

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00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's also the same thing with the lunch meats.

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00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Canned tomatoes.

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00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:44.119
<v Speaker 1>You've probably never thought about what's in actual cans that

1078
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:47.039
<v Speaker 1>your food comes in, but health officials have stricter Food

1079
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>regulations could target BPA, a chemical in canned.

1080
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Linings, due to concerns over effects on hormone functions and

1081
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:56.079
<v Speaker 2>brain health. Energy bars.

1082
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Energy bars could face elimination under our case policies due

1083
00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:04.360
<v Speaker 1>to the reliance on artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and ultra processed ingredients.

1084
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Add Is like sucralose and sugar alcohol's harm gut health

1085
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:13.199
<v Speaker 1>and may contribute to metabolic disorders and inflammation. Non organic

1086
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 1>strawberries not gonna lie, didn't see that one coming, but okay.

1087
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Due to pesticide heavy.

1088
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Farming practices, non organic strawberries are at high risk of

1089
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>being banned. Tests have revealed residues from dozens of harmful pesticides,

1090
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 1>including carcinogens like carbondism and indocrine.

1091
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Distributors or disruptors.

1092
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Rather, these post threats to consumer health, especially to vulnerable populations.

1093
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Cake frosting.

1094
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Mass market cake frosting could disappear under our off case

1095
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>policies due to its reliance on transfats from hydrogenated oils

1096
00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and artificial dyes like red forty and yellow five marshmallows. Again,

1097
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I think this ties into Lucky charms and what his

1098
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>big thing about that is. Yeah, the dyes are bad,

1099
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but marshmallows might face scrutiny due to their questionable ingredients

1100
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>such as gelatin source from in dust animal processing, and

1101
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>artificial flavorrings. Many contain corn syrup and refined sugars, both

1102
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:12.039
<v Speaker 1>tied to insulin resistance and chronic diseases. Flavored oatmeals pumpkin

1103
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 1>spice is being shown right here, which there's there's gonna

1104
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 1>be a certain demographic of human being that will be

1105
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:21.239
<v Speaker 1>upset that pumpkin spice is going by the wayside, but

1106
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>all right. Flavored oatmeal brands often use artificial flavorings, excessive sugar,

1107
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:29.199
<v Speaker 1>and stabilizers like multidextrine, which pose help risks like blood

1108
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:34.920
<v Speaker 1>sugar spikes and gut issues. Pre Cooked shrimp. Pre cooked

1109
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>shrimp could be targeted for bands due to the use

1110
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 1>of sodium, tripulp phosphate, tripolyphosphate, excuse me, and sulfites as preservatives.

1111
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>These chemicals can cause allergic reactions insensitive individuals and may

1112
00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>disrupt gut flora when consumed frequently pickled and jarred vegetables.

1113
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Pickled in jarged vegetables are often preserved with sodium benzoate

1114
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and artificial dyes, which are to potential carcinogenic effects when

1115
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.920
<v Speaker 1>combined with certain foods. Their high sodium content also raises

1116
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:11.880
<v Speaker 1>concern about cardiovascular health. Store bought rotisserie chicken. Okay, well,

1117
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>now he's just gone too damn far now I'm joking.

1118
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Rotisserie chicken seasoning typically includes phosphate additives to retain moisture,

1119
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:22.440
<v Speaker 1>which may contribute to kidney problems and calcium depletion. Additionally,

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00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:26.360
<v Speaker 1>these chickens have had high sodium levels, raising health risks

1121
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:27.159
<v Speaker 1>for consumers.

1122
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Ranch dressing.

1123
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Store bought ranch dressings contain hydrogenated oils and artificial flavor

1124
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:38.159
<v Speaker 1>enhancers like monosodium glutamate. All right, now, okay, now calm

1125
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.079
<v Speaker 1>down there, RFK, I love my MSG, leave me alone.

1126
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:42.599
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

1127
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>These ingredients are linked to inflammation, heart disease, and other

1128
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 1>chronic illnesses, making them incompatible with clean eating ideologies.

1129
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Flavored potato chips.

1130
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:57.960
<v Speaker 1>The sodium causing the metabolic disorders and increase obesity risks.

1131
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I get it, Taco kids. I feel like he's just

1132
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:03.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of going out of his way on this one.

1133
01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, pre seasoned taco kits often contain high levels

1134
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of sodium and artificial flavors. MSG's frozen chicken nuggets, same thing,

1135
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the sodium, phosphates, autolized yeast extract and fillers to preserve

1136
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 1>texture and flavor.

1137
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Frozen fish sticks same thing, same thing.

1138
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Low quality fish mixed with binders, sodium, heavy coatings, and

1139
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:25.880
<v Speaker 1>artificial additives.

1140
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Imitation crab meat.

1141
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:33.360
<v Speaker 1>You know the sushi industry is gonna have something to

1142
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>say about that one, But I mean, why don't we

1143
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 1>use real crab meat.

1144
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I know it's more expensive, but it tastes so much better.

1145
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:40.039
<v Speaker 2>It does. It tastes so much better.

1146
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Imitation crab meat combines sera meine, processed fish paste with starches,

1147
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.800
<v Speaker 1>soor bid all and artificial colorings to mimic the taste

1148
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.400
<v Speaker 1>and texture. These additives contribute to low nutritional value, which

1149
01:00:52.480 --> 01:01:00.280
<v Speaker 1>conflicts with initiatives encouraged encouraging whole nutrient rich foods. So anyway, yeah,

1150
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:04.119
<v Speaker 1>those are just a quick thirty five food item list

1151
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:05.760
<v Speaker 1>of things that RFK is trying to ban.

1152
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Raven Lee.

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01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:13.480
<v Speaker 8>What I find interesting is that if you go over

1154
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:17.320
<v Speaker 8>sees to other countries and you actually like eat if

1155
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 8>they're McDonald's, for example, like the McDonald's in Okinawa, Japan

1156
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 8>is like the best food ever. It's a gourmet food

1157
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:30.119
<v Speaker 8>because they have to adhere to the health standards in

1158
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 8>which that country is in. Yet America has like pretty

1159
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.679
<v Speaker 8>much no standards and they get away with feeding you

1160
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:40.880
<v Speaker 8>like absolute dog shit. And people are upset that these

1161
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:43.800
<v Speaker 8>things are being changed. And I don't quite undestand why.

1162
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was in Paris, I went to

1163
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's and the only reason why was because they sold

1164
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Heineken there.

1165
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't even drink Heineken.

1166
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But like where else in my life am I going

1167
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to be able to order a beer with my burger?

1168
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Like? I thought that was dope to do it at McDonald's.

1169
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So I did, I will say, and yes, the pulp

1170
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:02.679
<v Speaker 1>thing of a Royala cheese and the whole I did that.

1171
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I ordered that it tasted different, but not worse by

1172
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:11.760
<v Speaker 1>any means it I'm I don't wouldn't call it necessarily better,

1173
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 1>but I will say that it definitely tasted healthier, like

1174
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 1>by and large.

1175
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 2>So as far as.

1176
01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, like you said, they have to maintain the food

1177
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 1>standards of the country that the McDonald's is currently in,

1178
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:29.840
<v Speaker 1>so in Okinawa, Japan, Japan cares about what their people

1179
01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:33.360
<v Speaker 1>are putting into their bodies, like they truly care France.

1180
01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I would think, not as much as Japan, but they

1181
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:38.199
<v Speaker 1>definitely care more than America.

1182
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, RFK is trying.

1183
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>To ban these items, and it's because of the dies,

1184
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 1>it's because of the sodium intake, it's because of the

1185
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:49.679
<v Speaker 1>artificial sweeteners, it's because of the uh phosphates and phost fights.

1186
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I get it, and I'm not mad at it. But

1187
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he also needs to stop his hatred towards MSG. I

1188
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:58.679
<v Speaker 1>draw the line there. I'm probably gonna die on the

1189
01:02:58.719 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 1>hill of loving MSHG.

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01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Raven.

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01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.639
<v Speaker 8>So him banning these things like this is such a

1192
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:08.800
<v Speaker 8>huge move for a lot of people that have been

1193
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:12.079
<v Speaker 8>like saying and preaching this myself included for a long

1194
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 8>time of like these things are terrible for you, Like

1195
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 8>this is causing a lot of it's like an epidemic,

1196
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.679
<v Speaker 8>really like the sugar epidemic. Like there's a fascinating there's

1197
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.079
<v Speaker 8>a lot of document Uh, there's a lot of like

1198
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:28.079
<v Speaker 8>videos that I've been made. There's actually one on Netflix

1199
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:33.119
<v Speaker 8>about the sugar epidemic. And it's really interesting because childhood

1200
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:36.840
<v Speaker 8>obesity is blown up over the last decade and there's

1201
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:40.000
<v Speaker 8>a lot of contributing factors. But it's amazing to me

1202
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:44.159
<v Speaker 8>because Americans get super angry about like healthy changes happening,

1203
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 8>yet overseas like they have a lot of restrictions on

1204
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:50.039
<v Speaker 8>their foods that make sure that they are eating healthy

1205
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.079
<v Speaker 8>food and like, I don't understand the argument, Like if

1206
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 8>you ever looked at the model it's supposedly what Michelle

1207
01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.880
<v Speaker 8>Obama was going to use, but the model for lunches,

1208
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.880
<v Speaker 8>and how oversees what those lunches look like comparative to

1209
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:09.360
<v Speaker 8>our lunches. It's like, Okay, why wouldn't we want to

1210
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 8>feed the best food possible to our children that we

1211
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 8>know aren't going to contribute to ADHD or contribute to

1212
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 8>them having some autoimmune disease or you know, DOTTA dot

1213
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:24.320
<v Speaker 8>sleep issues, focus issues, you neme it I don't understand

1214
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:28.360
<v Speaker 8>how this is such like a rough topic for Americans.

1215
01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 8>I never understood. So like for me, RFK is like

1216
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.480
<v Speaker 8>fucking the savior for the rest of us that have

1217
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:37.679
<v Speaker 8>been crunchy and like trying to get people to you know,

1218
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:40.000
<v Speaker 8>band together and be angry about this.

1219
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I get it.

1220
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 1>But we also and I'm not even trying to take

1221
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the side of the people getting mad about this. But

1222
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.079
<v Speaker 1>the reason why is because a people do not like change.

1223
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Like by and large, like a person can get down

1224
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with it, the masses is very, very very hesitant towards change,

1225
01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 1>even if it's shown to be a good and healthy change,

1226
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 1>they don't typically like it. That being said, also, you

1227
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.320
<v Speaker 1>look at countries in Europe throwing it out, they have

1228
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.960
<v Speaker 1>way stricter food requirements.

1229
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 2>That they allow their people to ingest than we do

1230
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:17.239
<v Speaker 2>in America.

1231
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, they also have a fraction of the population, and

1232
01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.639
<v Speaker 1>so when you talk about like their version of public school,

1233
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 1>for instance, they have more money that they could put

1234
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 1>towards good food. When in America we have money. We

1235
01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.239
<v Speaker 1>have a really good economy. I know that depends on

1236
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:38.760
<v Speaker 1>who you ask, but like, as compared to most of

1237
01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the world, America is not doing poorly.

1238
01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a pretty understood fact. And we could

1239
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 2>put twenty more, twenty more money.

1240
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Towards food for our children and towards the public school system,

1241
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:53.599
<v Speaker 1>but that would mean less money for the rich people.

1242
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 1>That means that they're not getting as much of a

1243
01:05:56.320 --> 01:05:58.199
<v Speaker 1>bonus at the end of every quarter, at the end

1244
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:02.119
<v Speaker 1>of every year, and like that's just crazy, you know.

1245
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.199
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's a mixture of things. It's like

1246
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:07.480
<v Speaker 1>a compound issue. I think that greed plays a lot

1247
01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.039
<v Speaker 1>into it. I think that people not liking change plays

1248
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot into it. Not to mention, like Michelle Obama

1249
01:06:13.519 --> 01:06:15.960
<v Speaker 1>with her initiative to try to make school lunches better,

1250
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that would have done great if the food was like,

1251
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:26.760
<v Speaker 1>at least somewhat edible. She tried replacing like mid range

1252
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.880
<v Speaker 1>food with food that was on paper healthier but tasted gross.

1253
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Like that was the biggest swing in a miss I've

1254
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:36.519
<v Speaker 1>ever seen in my life. It doesn't cost that much money.

1255
01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I actually used to be related to somebody who works

1256
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 1>in the cafeteria at a private school, and if you

1257
01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:45.480
<v Speaker 1>were to compare, and I mean they actually cooked the

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01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:48.960
<v Speaker 1>food for the children every day. It wasn't mass producing

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01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a big tray you heated up in a hot box

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01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.400
<v Speaker 1>or an oven or something inserved.

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01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 2>They actually were cooking the food for the children. It

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01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 2>was like fifty.

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01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Cents more per meal than what the public schools were paying.

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01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 1>And somehow that just was what it was, and it

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01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:07.519
<v Speaker 1>was way more nutritious. And like he was showing me,

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01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:10.119
<v Speaker 1>he broke it down, your average meal for one of

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01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the students that he cooked for, and the average meal

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01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:15.159
<v Speaker 1>for one of the students that the public school is given,

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01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:17.639
<v Speaker 1>especially like the free lunch systems and all that which

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01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.000
<v Speaker 1>not here to throw shade at. I understand everybody's got

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01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.840
<v Speaker 1>their shit. My point is fifty cents more per meal.

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01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I understand that stacks up. I understand that

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01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 1>adds up. I get it. Just speaking on behalf of

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01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:32.079
<v Speaker 1>myself here, right, Jacob, speaking on behalf of Jacob.

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01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind my tax dollars.

1276
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:37.119
<v Speaker 1>Going towards making sure these babies are eating better food.

1277
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I know that's probably a controversial hot take for some people.

1278
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm good with it. I'm good with that.

1279
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm good with Rather than I'm just gonna use the

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01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:51.000
<v Speaker 1>USAID group that Doge found all the crazy fraud and

1281
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:52.679
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. I know there's a lot more, but

1282
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that's an easy one to pick right, low hanging fruit.

1283
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Rather than spend so much money for Iraqi sesame streep

1284
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 1>and bearded.

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01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Circus ladies on ice to teach us.

1286
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 1>About global warming, if we are to hawk that and

1287
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:09.199
<v Speaker 1>put it towards our food for our children in our

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01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:13.679
<v Speaker 1>public school system, I see that as more of an investment.

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01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 2>That's just me.

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01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but yeah, we will see. RFK is

1291
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to push these things forward. I don't know if

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01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:26.000
<v Speaker 1>they will absolutely happen. I know that he is pushing

1293
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it further and further every day, but we will see.

1294
01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep everybody posted on it as things progress,

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01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:35.479
<v Speaker 1>all right, Getting back to the chat here, Tony, give

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01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:38.159
<v Speaker 1>me a little context on this one. Here rates very widely,

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01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.800
<v Speaker 1>from ninety nine to nine in Morocco and high rates

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01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in many Muslim majority countries, to ninety one seven in Israel,

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01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent in the United States, and twenty point seven

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01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:51.000
<v Speaker 1>percent in the United Kingdom, fourteen percent in China, thirteen

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01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:54.439
<v Speaker 1>point five in India, nine in Japan, and one in Honduras.

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01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:55.880
<v Speaker 2>What are these numbers about?

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01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.319
<v Speaker 3>This goes back to when we were talking about circumcision

1304
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the episode. Okay, wow, yeah, we kind

1305
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 3>of moved on from that. It just varies a lot.

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01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Wid Yeah, I definitely believe it's it's really high here,

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01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:16.079
<v Speaker 3>and I think most males in this country kind of

1308
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:18.560
<v Speaker 3>had to figure out what it was after they had

1309
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:24.399
<v Speaker 3>already been seeing their friends' penises and elementary school. But yeah,

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01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:29.279
<v Speaker 3>maybe this is oversharing. But I was the only uncircumcised guy.

1311
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I did not know why mine looked so different, but

1312
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.279
<v Speaker 3>my parents protected me from that. And I saw like

1313
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:40.439
<v Speaker 3>fifty or one hundred other my friends dix and in

1314
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:44.039
<v Speaker 3>elementary school, and they just always looked so different. And

1315
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I was like, your red thing is is there? But

1316
01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:50.439
<v Speaker 3>doesn't it hurt? Because if you're if you're uncircumcised and

1317
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:52.319
<v Speaker 3>you pull it back and you touch the red part

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01:09:52.359 --> 01:09:55.960
<v Speaker 3>when you're a little boy, it really hurts fair enough.

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01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I do know that it is more on the rise

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01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 1>in America, and there's some people that believe that that's

1321
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:06.039
<v Speaker 1>because of the illegal immigrant conversation, but that's that's kind

1322
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.079
<v Speaker 1>of a cop out. There's so as far as the yeah,

1323
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and we kind of touched on it. Wow wow oo

1324
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:15.399
<v Speaker 1>bad phrasing. We kind of brought it up in conversation

1325
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.680
<v Speaker 1>earlier in the episode, and to kind of bring it

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01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 1>around here, evangelical christendom in America is why the circumcision

1327
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation was so prevalent for so long. Like I brought

1328
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:32.159
<v Speaker 1>up earlier, my grandfather was born in nineteen thirty. He

1329
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:35.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't get circumcised until he deployed to go to Korea

1330
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 1>during the Korean War in the fifties. I mean, it

1331
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.920
<v Speaker 1>was if you didn't have money, or if your mom

1332
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:45.319
<v Speaker 1>just didn't do that for your parents didn't choose that

1333
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.399
<v Speaker 1>for you when you were a baby, it just wasn't done.

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01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.720
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't you know, it was seen as a

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01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:50.560
<v Speaker 2>cleanliness thing.

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01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:52.600
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to deploy, they don't want you to

1337
01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:55.600
<v Speaker 1>get I mean, you know part in the expression here,

1338
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:57.079
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't want you to have dick cheese and

1339
01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 1>get dick rot when you go overseas.

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01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:01.319
<v Speaker 2>So it was for cleanliness and hygiene issues. I get that.

1341
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.680
<v Speaker 1>But with the way the world is now and what

1342
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:07.359
<v Speaker 1>we know about germ theory now more than then, I mean, realistically,

1343
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:09.399
<v Speaker 1>we didn't I'm not mistaken.

1344
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:10.479
<v Speaker 2>We didn't even know that there was.

1345
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Different blood types until the late fifties, like real. So

1346
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that being said, yeah, it's more of a esthetic thing,

1347
01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and there's religious reasons for some of it. I get

1348
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:25.279
<v Speaker 1>that one hundred percent, But more often than not, it's

1349
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:29.079
<v Speaker 1>an aesthetic thing and it is a just a preference thing.

1350
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:33.239
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not for the betterment of one's health

1351
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:35.720
<v Speaker 1>like it once was, at least not in America. Now,

1352
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:39.000
<v Speaker 1>some of these other countries on this list, some of

1353
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 1>them might have better hygiene practices than others. You know,

1354
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:45.720
<v Speaker 1>that varies country to country, but it's there's not as

1355
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:47.720
<v Speaker 1>much of a stigma on it now as it used

1356
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to be, for sure, And I personally know more and

1357
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:54.560
<v Speaker 1>more people that are like going out of their way

1358
01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:57.880
<v Speaker 1>to choose to not have their son circumcised. You know,

1359
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I have my own opinion on that for my own

1360
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.319
<v Speaker 1>personal religious reasons. But you know, I'm not Jewish. I'm

1361
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not Jewish, but you know still that I think a

1362
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:10.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit that holds true. But yeah, it's not like

1363
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.640
<v Speaker 1>nobody's judging on this program regardless whatever somebody wants to

1364
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 1>choose to do with their children. Everybody's making their own

1365
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:23.560
<v Speaker 1>choices as best they can. Here, all right, let's move on, Anthony.

1366
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Ever since India and Pakistan are prepping for war, I

1367
01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 1>have not received any spam calls, So let them go

1368
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 1>at it. Ella, Yo, Anthony, he left earlier, but you

1369
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:36.199
<v Speaker 1>know you might be onto something. I haven't received one

1370
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 1>spam call since the shots started getting fired. So I'm

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01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:44.800
<v Speaker 1>not saying that there's a connection. I'm just saying that

1372
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:50.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a funny coincidence. And you know, I'm okay with that, Raven.

1373
01:12:50.800 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I saw your hand raise. Go ahead, Okay, maybe not.

1374
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.000
<v Speaker 8>I I was trying to get to it. I was

1375
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.920
<v Speaker 8>looking at statistics on a type of disorder for penises considered.

1376
01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:11.000
<v Speaker 8>Since you're I.

1377
01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Can hear him, okay, kind of cutting in and out

1378
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 1>on that one, Raven. I don't know what the situation

1379
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is there, but you were looking at penis disorders. Felt

1380
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.520
<v Speaker 1>like that was about to be a very charged conversation.

1381
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:26.439
<v Speaker 9>Okay, can you hear me now?

1382
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I can?

1383
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:30.840
<v Speaker 9>Okay, No, So I was looking at statistics because so

1384
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:34.760
<v Speaker 9>speaking of like different countries, hypospadism is a type of

1385
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:40.000
<v Speaker 9>disorder where your urethra hole is not where it's supposed

1386
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:44.479
<v Speaker 9>to be and it's actually gained. I wouldn't I'm not

1387
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.960
<v Speaker 9>going to say a popularity, but it's gained traction, so

1388
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:50.039
<v Speaker 9>there's a lot more people seeing cases. It's inherently a

1389
01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:53.319
<v Speaker 9>third world country problem. But what's interesting is starting to

1390
01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 9>happen more and more in America as well, and they

1391
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.680
<v Speaker 9>can't quite figure out, like what the contributing factor did

1392
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 9>actors are? Is it like an environmental thing? Is it

1393
01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:06.880
<v Speaker 9>what we're ingesting? Is it vaccines? Like what is causing it?

1394
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:11.239
<v Speaker 9>But there are disorders. I think when the conversation comes

1395
01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:14.439
<v Speaker 9>about when and I didn't hear her entire four hour

1396
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:18.199
<v Speaker 9>thing about what she said. I and my phone broke

1397
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:19.560
<v Speaker 9>up earlier, so I didn't get to hear all of

1398
01:14:19.960 --> 01:14:23.479
<v Speaker 9>what you guys talked about. But there is just like

1399
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:29.199
<v Speaker 9>natural birth that is a huge thing that's making a

1400
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.239
<v Speaker 9>way with everyone. Is like they are not circumcising their

1401
01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.359
<v Speaker 9>shild anymore. But what I find interesting is that the

1402
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:39.479
<v Speaker 9>rise of the need to circumcise. So like with hypospatus correction,

1403
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:43.079
<v Speaker 9>you use a foreskin to create a penis head to

1404
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:47.319
<v Speaker 9>be able to put the urethra where it needs to be,

1405
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.279
<v Speaker 9>and so like there's more need for that because there's

1406
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:54.319
<v Speaker 9>more cases happening. On the other hand, there is a

1407
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:56.920
<v Speaker 9>lot of people that are deciding not to circumcise because

1408
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 9>it's they don't want to take the autonomy away from

1409
01:14:59.239 --> 01:14:59.680
<v Speaker 9>the child.

1410
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.159
<v Speaker 8>So it all kind of is tying in.

1411
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 9>With natural birth as well. And that's what I was

1412
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:05.880
<v Speaker 9>trying to get to it before you guys moved on.

1413
01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:08.479
<v Speaker 8>But I was like, damn, so yeah, I feel that.

1414
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get it.

1415
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:14.439
<v Speaker 1>My former father in law, as a matter of fact,

1416
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.520
<v Speaker 1>he had to have I mean, this is within the

1417
01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:21.479
<v Speaker 1>realm of the circumcision conversation, but kind of adjacent in

1418
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:25.159
<v Speaker 1>a way. So long story short, he caught swine flu

1419
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:27.560
<v Speaker 1>back when that was like the thing that they thought

1420
01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:28.159
<v Speaker 1>was going to be.

1421
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:28.760
<v Speaker 2>The new plague.

1422
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1423
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 1>He is the only human being I know that actually

1424
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:34.399
<v Speaker 1>caught it and almost died because of it. He was

1425
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 1>laid up in the hospital for months and months, had bedsores.

1426
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.319
<v Speaker 1>He had to have skin grafts put on, And where

1427
01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they got the skin grafts from was stem cells from

1428
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:49.439
<v Speaker 1>the foreskins of circumcised babies. They you know, the parents

1429
01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:53.079
<v Speaker 1>that opted to let the foreskins be used for medical

1430
01:15:53.119 --> 01:15:55.960
<v Speaker 1>research and whatever else. They were actually able to take

1431
01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:00.520
<v Speaker 1>them and use stem cells from that to make skins.

1432
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:05.039
<v Speaker 1>So I I see the benefit to it of using

1433
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:09.039
<v Speaker 1>that for good purposes. I mean, there's there's a lot

1434
01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:12.479
<v Speaker 1>of levels to this. One hundred percent Royce, go ahead, sir.

1435
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:15.439
<v Speaker 4>So just for just.

1436
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.319
<v Speaker 5>On the religious aspect of it, pretty much anybody who's

1437
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:23.399
<v Speaker 5>not Jewish, I think doesn't need to be. I mean

1438
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:29.119
<v Speaker 5>the obviously that's everybody's prerogative and their choice in general,

1439
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.680
<v Speaker 5>at least where it came from, at least how I

1440
01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:34.399
<v Speaker 5>always taught, or how the Jews believe it originally came

1441
01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.800
<v Speaker 5>from from Abraham was the covenant between you know, him

1442
01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:39.039
<v Speaker 5>and God and the Jewish people.

1443
01:16:39.720 --> 01:16:42.880
<v Speaker 4>So that's one of those things.

1444
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:46.680
<v Speaker 5>However, even in Judaism and sol believe they talk about

1445
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:50.119
<v Speaker 5>if there are people that have died from circumcisions in

1446
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:52.359
<v Speaker 5>the past, that you know, you should not get your

1447
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:56.840
<v Speaker 5>sun cervicised circumcised. So there are cases even in Judaism

1448
01:16:56.840 --> 01:17:02.239
<v Speaker 5>where people, even though they should get circumcises, there are.

1449
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Medical reasons in which you know they don't.

1450
01:17:05.600 --> 01:17:11.560
<v Speaker 5>So but you know, anybody who's not Jewish, like, it's

1451
01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:15.760
<v Speaker 5>for sure a choice, Yeah.

1452
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:16.399
<v Speaker 2>For sure, for sure.

1453
01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 1>I actually was just reading, uh, I forgot about that

1454
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.680
<v Speaker 1>part in the Bible where David made a covenant with

1455
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 1>God and he had to get a hundred was it

1456
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Philistine foreskins something like that.

1457
01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, something like that.

1458
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 1>And they were talking about in that Flagrant episode with

1459
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Wes Halff, and it's like, bro, how do you get that?

1460
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:39.600
<v Speaker 1>He's like with a sword, he did what like, look,

1461
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.279
<v Speaker 1>God said he needed one hundred four skins from these people,

1462
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and David was about all the smoke.

1463
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So you know, he did what he had to do.

1464
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.359
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was a of all the flexes

1465
01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 1>that you could have done for your God like that.

1466
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm here for it.

1467
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for that as fuck the Philistines, you know, Philistines,

1468
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.840
<v Speaker 1>however you want to pronounce that anyway, super off topic.

1469
01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>We could totally move on here. Let's see here. Ooh,

1470
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:14.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of on topic though. Zombie aka raven Le shared

1471
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:15.520
<v Speaker 1>this other article.

1472
01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:16.479
<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating.

1473
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:19.920
<v Speaker 1>At the height of US slavery, seventy eight of the

1474
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.760
<v Speaker 1>slave owners were Jewish. Seventy eight percent of the slave

1475
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:25.680
<v Speaker 1>owners were Jewish. Since only one point six of the

1476
01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:30.119
<v Speaker 1>total population owned slaves, and the Jews made up three

1477
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:33.479
<v Speaker 1>point one two five percent of the population, this means

1478
01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 1>that forty percent of the Jews owned slaves in America

1479
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:41.239
<v Speaker 1>while only point three to five percent of White's own slaves.

1480
01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Now that's at the height of it. And I'm gonna

1481
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.039
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I've never heard this personally. I know that

1482
01:18:48.079 --> 01:18:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the South were not really fond of Jewish people, but

1483
01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, neither was the North. Ulysses as Grant,

1484
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:57.600
<v Speaker 1>who was a you want to call him a big

1485
01:18:57.640 --> 01:19:00.520
<v Speaker 1>time general of the Union, he was a unker that

1486
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:04.000
<v Speaker 1>got lucky and kind of Robert E. Lee dropped the

1487
01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>ball and Ulysses S. Grant was there to pick it up.

1488
01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:08.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not that Ulysses S. Grant was like a good general.

1489
01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 1>He was a He was a clown that was in

1490
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the right place at the right time too many times.

1491
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:19.800
<v Speaker 1>He wrote a essay on the Jews and he hated them, big.

1492
01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Big anti Semite.

1493
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>So maybe there was something to be said for that,

1494
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe because he thought that most of the slave owners

1495
01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 1>in the South were Jewish.

1496
01:19:29.640 --> 01:19:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1497
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:34.279
<v Speaker 1>As we as we watch documentaries that could or may

1498
01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 1>or may not have been based off of true events

1499
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.880
<v Speaker 1>like Django Unchained, I have a hard time seeing Leo

1500
01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:42.680
<v Speaker 1>DiCaprio's character being Jewish. But like I don't know that

1501
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:48.600
<v Speaker 1>for a fact, I do a lot of things unpack

1502
01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:51.000
<v Speaker 1>on this one. Everybody please chime in, Tony, what you got.

1503
01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if I remember the anecdote right, Ulysses S. Grant

1504
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.520
<v Speaker 3>was trying to occupy some town in one of the Carolinas,

1505
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:03.079
<v Speaker 3>and some of the Jewish residents were smuggling things and

1506
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:07.119
<v Speaker 3>circumventing the blockade on the south. So he kicked them

1507
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:09.960
<v Speaker 3>all out of that town. But then I think Lincoln

1508
01:20:10.079 --> 01:20:13.359
<v Speaker 3>overrode him, and then I was not aware of he

1509
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Grant wrote anything antisemitic or not, But in that one instance,

1510
01:20:20.039 --> 01:20:23.399
<v Speaker 3>that's the one anecdote I remember. As for the slave ownership,

1511
01:20:23.800 --> 01:20:29.680
<v Speaker 3>I've seen figures ranging from the slave traders being like

1512
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:33.840
<v Speaker 3>ten percent to fifty percent Jewish. I don't know what

1513
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:37.439
<v Speaker 3>to believe. They had a lot down in South America too,

1514
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:41.479
<v Speaker 3>in Guyana, for example, Yeah, there was a big Jewish

1515
01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:44.199
<v Speaker 3>colony there and it's not there anymore because it actually

1516
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:47.479
<v Speaker 3>perished in a slave uprising. But in the context of

1517
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:52.159
<v Speaker 3>North America, I don't know how represented or overrepresented they

1518
01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:54.800
<v Speaker 3>might have been in the slave trade, but I've seen

1519
01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:58.239
<v Speaker 3>numbers that very widely with the bias of the presenter,

1520
01:20:58.479 --> 01:20:59.039
<v Speaker 3>for sure.

1521
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Sure, And I do know for a fact, I've read

1522
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the paper that Ulysses as Grant wrote, and it's scathing,

1523
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:13.399
<v Speaker 1>is being very kind. He was hateful towards the Jews,

1524
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and maybe it does go back to that smuggling situation.

1525
01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there was something that he was brought up believing

1526
01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:21.439
<v Speaker 1>on this maybe had to do with the slave trade.

1527
01:21:21.439 --> 01:21:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

1528
01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.680
<v Speaker 1>What his like, what his stigma against them was, but

1529
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:31.800
<v Speaker 1>he absolutely was a vehement anti semi which is crazy

1530
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to me that anybody of the North had any kind

1531
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of real, like inherent racism, because Abraham Lincoln was a

1532
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:44.680
<v Speaker 1>malungion like he was a mixed race individual himself, and

1533
01:21:46.279 --> 01:21:48.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I'm not sure if that was like

1534
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:51.600
<v Speaker 1>mixed with Native blood or if he was part black

1535
01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:54.279
<v Speaker 1>or whatever the case was. I'm sure there's some expert

1536
01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that's gone back and pulled DNA samples and all this.

1537
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:57.239
<v Speaker 2>But like.

1538
01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:02.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, and I also love the belief that he

1539
01:22:02.039 --> 01:22:06.479
<v Speaker 1>was a high functioning autistic as well, along with Stonewall Jackson.

1540
01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>As you read some of the journals and reports from

1541
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:16.359
<v Speaker 1>their contemporaries, I think that these were like high functioning

1542
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:20.079
<v Speaker 1>either aspergers or autism or some sort of like social disorder.

1543
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Their brains were next level on certain regards, but also

1544
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:30.439
<v Speaker 1>like they were not quote unquote normal men by any

1545
01:22:30.479 --> 01:22:33.239
<v Speaker 1>of their contemporary standards. So I mean, I don't know,

1546
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>but you listened that Grant. Yeah, he was a drunkard

1547
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.399
<v Speaker 1>who got to that position because early in his career

1548
01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he was a pretty solid soldier. Then he crawled into

1549
01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the bottle around the rank of major and didn't leave

1550
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 1>it until he left the presidency, if he left it

1551
01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:51.199
<v Speaker 1>at all. So I mean, you know, I don't know

1552
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>there's things on that, Raven.

1553
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I saw your hand raise, go ahead.

1554
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:00.720
<v Speaker 8>I was just gonna say that, like, and I just

1555
01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:03.159
<v Speaker 8>dropped that in the chat. I don't actually believe that.

1556
01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:08.399
<v Speaker 8>I just was said that by people. Lots of anti

1557
01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:13.840
<v Speaker 8>Jew stuff being like circulated through the interwebs, and I

1558
01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:18.479
<v Speaker 8>get that constantly from people send me stuff. It seems

1559
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:23.680
<v Speaker 8>like there's a heavy push in the conspiracy community that

1560
01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:27.159
<v Speaker 8>there is a lot of like anti Jew stuff. So

1561
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:29.079
<v Speaker 8>I just wanted since you guys were talking about it,

1562
01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:31.239
<v Speaker 8>I was like, well, here's what I just was sent

1563
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:34.760
<v Speaker 8>like twenty minutes ago. So you know, I don't actually

1564
01:23:34.760 --> 01:23:37.640
<v Speaker 8>particularly believe in it, but it is something that's being

1565
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:38.640
<v Speaker 8>shared quite often.

1566
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in the conspiracy world, it is like it's in

1567
01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:45.279
<v Speaker 1>vogue to hate the Jews.

1568
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Again.

1569
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I personally don't like that at all, but yeah, I'm serious.

1570
01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start like keeping a tracker of every episode

1571
01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of the Cult of Conspiracy when we have like a

1572
01:23:56.800 --> 01:24:00.439
<v Speaker 1>guest on and just like, see how many episodes per

1573
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>month we have a person blaming the Jews for one

1574
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:06.079
<v Speaker 1>thing or another because like, for instance, we all know

1575
01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the Jews control the weather, and it's like, bro okay,

1576
01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:13.159
<v Speaker 1>like that's a joke. You hear conspiracy stand up comics

1577
01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>make that joke all of the time. I've heard I

1578
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know how many of them there. Ari Shafir has

1579
01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>been a part of a roast and the guy will

1580
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>get up and be like, I want to thank Ari

1581
01:24:21.239 --> 01:24:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Shafir and his people for allowing us good weather to

1582
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:25.479
<v Speaker 1>have this today, and the crowd laughs.

1583
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:30.079
<v Speaker 2>It's a joke. But my god, so many people.

1584
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Are no longer joking when they make crazy claims like this.

1585
01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:36.119
<v Speaker 2>And you know, yes, I understand the roth Childs are Jewish.

1586
01:24:36.399 --> 01:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I understand that Lennon was a Jew and the

1587
01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I get that, but we're also talking about like way

1588
01:24:44.840 --> 01:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>down the bloodline Jewish. It's not like these people are

1589
01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like going to temple and like celebrating Hanukkah and shit.

1590
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.399
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Tony, go ahead, bro.

1591
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got a little bit more. I was looking

1592
01:24:57.199 --> 01:25:01.119
<v Speaker 3>into this. There's a website called Reform Judaism dot org

1593
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:04.000
<v Speaker 3>with a long article on Ulysses S. Grant, and it

1594
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:06.359
<v Speaker 3>says that he kind of evolved his position. So by

1595
01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:10.279
<v Speaker 3>the time he was president, he quote spoke out forcefully

1596
01:25:10.279 --> 01:25:13.479
<v Speaker 3>against an order expelling two thousand Jews from border border

1597
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:17.640
<v Speaker 3>areas of Russia following persecution of Jews in Romania in

1598
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:20.600
<v Speaker 3>eighteen seventy, So it seems like he changed his mind

1599
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>a bunch, but a lot of his his letter or

1600
01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 3>his order is quoted up top from eighteen sixty two.

1601
01:25:28.359 --> 01:25:31.720
<v Speaker 3>He apparently wrote the Jews as a class violating every

1602
01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:35.199
<v Speaker 3>regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department, and also

1603
01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department. Within twenty

1604
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:42.159
<v Speaker 3>four hours from receipt of disorder, post commanders will see

1605
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>that all of this class of people be furnished passes

1606
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and required to leave, and anyone returning after such notice

1607
01:25:47.600 --> 01:25:51.119
<v Speaker 3>will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity

1608
01:25:51.119 --> 01:25:54.520
<v Speaker 3>occurs of sending them out as prisoners dot dot dim.

1609
01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're saying that, yeah, during the war, that

1610
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was his position, but then towards the I'm trying to

1611
01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.079
<v Speaker 1>remember when the first Russian pogram happened against the Jews,

1612
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>but that sounds like it was actually around the time

1613
01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:09.279
<v Speaker 1>where he was president, and we're talking like the two

1614
01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand people that were being like exiled from the border

1615
01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>areas of Russia that he was spoke out against.

1616
01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:18.119
<v Speaker 2>So his position changed, Okay.

1617
01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was elected president in eighteen sixty nine. The

1618
01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Russian situation with the collapse of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth

1619
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:32.159
<v Speaker 3>in seventeen ninety eight, meant the Russian Empire took over

1620
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:34.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of territory with a lot of Jews in it.

1621
01:26:34.119 --> 01:26:37.279
<v Speaker 3>It was called the Palist Settlement. They weren't supposed to leave,

1622
01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:40.600
<v Speaker 3>but it was a very poorous border and it was

1623
01:26:40.720 --> 01:26:43.119
<v Speaker 3>kind of like how illegal immigrants can come to the

1624
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:48.119
<v Speaker 3>United States and have for decades. And you know, Jews

1625
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:50.399
<v Speaker 3>couldn't move about with some freedom in Russia, but they

1626
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:54.520
<v Speaker 3>weren't supposed to, and they mostly stayed in the western

1627
01:26:54.560 --> 01:27:01.159
<v Speaker 3>parts in what is now Ukraine, Belarus, Poland and Romania,

1628
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's where it's talking about here in eighteen seventy.

1629
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.479
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Royce, I'm actually going to ask you to weigh

1630
01:27:08.479 --> 01:27:11.520
<v Speaker 1>in on this one. You everybody's heard me make the

1631
01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:14.039
<v Speaker 1>jokes about the Gypsies and how they're actually the ones

1632
01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>running the world. It's a joke doing the good Aroma

1633
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>gypsies listening good God.

1634
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.640
<v Speaker 2>There's no hatred being set. It's all in jest.

1635
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>That being said, you know what does the Jews take

1636
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>on the Gypsies like as a whole? I know you

1637
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:31.119
<v Speaker 1>can only speak for yourself, but does judaism in as

1638
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:33.079
<v Speaker 1>a whole have an opinion.

1639
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:33.640
<v Speaker 2>On the Roma?

1640
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:38.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't believe so. I mean, in the orthologic circles

1641
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:44.600
<v Speaker 5>that I've roamed in, I've never heard them be brought

1642
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:49.319
<v Speaker 5>up like most Jews are trying to study Taura. Do

1643
01:27:49.479 --> 01:27:52.079
<v Speaker 5>midst of us have a family to go to school,

1644
01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:56.520
<v Speaker 5>serve god like and do their business so like I.

1645
01:27:58.600 --> 01:27:59.560
<v Speaker 4>Would? Don't?

1646
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:04.039
<v Speaker 3>I'll okay, I do have one little thing on this.

1647
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen the TV series Car fifty four,

1648
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:10.319
<v Speaker 3>a black and white TV show from the early sixties.

1649
01:28:11.239 --> 01:28:14.279
<v Speaker 3>It was made by Nat and Gerald Hiken. I believe

1650
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.800
<v Speaker 3>they were Jewish, but and some Jewish stuff comes up

1651
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>in it, like bar Mitzvah's and it's treated very nicely.

1652
01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:24.560
<v Speaker 3>But they had this one episode called the Gypsy Curse.

1653
01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>With all the Gypsy stereotypes, you can imagine it very

1654
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:32.760
<v Speaker 3>very negative, like what are you doing, son, You're getting

1655
01:28:32.800 --> 01:28:35.399
<v Speaker 3>a job, You'll be kicked out of the family. You're

1656
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:37.439
<v Speaker 3>not supposed to get a job, You're supposed to steal.

1657
01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh, those old Gypsy stereotypes for sure. And I

1658
01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:48.399
<v Speaker 1>mean there's stereotypes for Jewish people and apparently Polish people,

1659
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't realize that Poland was seen as the

1660
01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Florida of Europe, but like that that is one hundred percent,

1661
01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.159
<v Speaker 1>so the whole the they're seen as and taking the

1662
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:01.199
<v Speaker 1>good Polish people listening.

1663
01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Don't get mad at me.

1664
01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I didn't make the stereotype there seems like the dumbest

1665
01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 1>of the whites and the heaviest of drinkers outside of

1666
01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the Irish. But apparently the Pollocks and I've you hear

1667
01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:17.079
<v Speaker 1>movies and you see these references where they dropped these

1668
01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like racial slurs towards Polish people. And I've always grown

1669
01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:24.479
<v Speaker 1>up thinking like, I had no idea there was racism

1670
01:29:24.520 --> 01:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>towards Polish people. That's a new one on me. Same

1671
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:31.159
<v Speaker 1>with the Gypsies. But yeah, yeah, okay, fair enough.

1672
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Well even here in the US they used to be

1673
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:37.680
<v Speaker 3>all the football players they were Polish. There was this

1674
01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:42.079
<v Speaker 3>episode of The Jetsons where there was this football game

1675
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:45.319
<v Speaker 3>in the future and all the football players were robots,

1676
01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:48.560
<v Speaker 3>but they still all had Polish names like Kotchinski and

1677
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:49.560
<v Speaker 3>potent Ski.

1678
01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:52.840
<v Speaker 2>They were all Skis. Yeah, yes, indeed.

1679
01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was in the Marine Corps there

1680
01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:57.239
<v Speaker 1>was a couple of buddies that we were having this

1681
01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:00.399
<v Speaker 1>conversation one day and they were like, you know, they

1682
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:02.279
<v Speaker 1>were trying to figure out their family lineage.

1683
01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:02.840
<v Speaker 2>You were trying to.

1684
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Guess based off of how people look, because that's what

1685
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you do. And pretty much I was like, dude, you're white,

1686
01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:11.239
<v Speaker 1>your last name ends in a vowel, you're Italian. And

1687
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait what, And I'm like, unless your last

1688
01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:16.439
<v Speaker 1>name is Ski, then you're Polish. Other than that, you're

1689
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like a ninety five percent shot that if your

1690
01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:22.439
<v Speaker 1>last name ends in a vowel and you're white, you're

1691
01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:25.359
<v Speaker 1>of Irish or I'm sorry of Italian or Sicilian descent,

1692
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and that was accurate. That was accurate Ski. And there's

1693
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a few examples from Germany and France, but for the

1694
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>most part that's a standard rule. So yeah, when you

1695
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:37.159
<v Speaker 1>see a ski, it's understood that's a that's a pollock.

1696
01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>But also in the realm of talking about you versus

1697
01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Gypsy Royce, one more question and I don't know how

1698
01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:51.039
<v Speaker 1>this plays into you, right, So for example, in the

1699
01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Italian community, everybody looks for some sort of a connection

1700
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>in their family lineage to the Italian mafia. Right, Sometimes

1701
01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:04.199
<v Speaker 1>there is, sometimes there's not. There was a pretty substantial

1702
01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Jewish mafia in America for a good while there, I

1703
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:10.079
<v Speaker 1>mean mayer Lansky being one of the most famous people

1704
01:31:10.279 --> 01:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>that was of Jewish descent that was involved with the mafia.

1705
01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Gypsies also had their own version of a mafia. Irish

1706
01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>did too, all all the things, all the people, all

1707
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the marginalized groups.

1708
01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And I get that. Is that a thing in the

1709
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Jewish community, like in.

1710
01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Today's world that people try to look back and see

1711
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>if they had a connection to some sort of like

1712
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:32.399
<v Speaker 1>a Jewish mafia element or is that seen as like

1713
01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:34.399
<v Speaker 1>like something that people don't even want to be associated

1714
01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:35.359
<v Speaker 1>with How is that viewed?

1715
01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:45.000
<v Speaker 5>I'll probably imagine this family by family, I think, So

1716
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.319
<v Speaker 5>I don't, frankly, I don't know. I was never really

1717
01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:52.399
<v Speaker 5>I was never brought up religious exactly, and so I

1718
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:55.600
<v Speaker 5>can't tell you. I tell you who was raised, you know,

1719
01:31:56.239 --> 01:32:00.159
<v Speaker 5>religious from birth, who was in or fox their entire life.

1720
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:04.279
<v Speaker 4>Life my general associally, it would be through.

1721
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:05.840
<v Speaker 5>The family, like, oh, by the way, you know, you're

1722
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:09.840
<v Speaker 5>a great grandfather or great great or whatever had ties

1723
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:13.960
<v Speaker 5>or through that.

1724
01:32:13.960 --> 01:32:18.880
<v Speaker 10>That's why I think fair enough, I think, yeah, I

1725
01:32:18.920 --> 01:32:22.279
<v Speaker 10>was just curious.

1726
01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my ex wife was Sicilian, so she had like

1727
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:30.279
<v Speaker 1>three uncles that were involved in the mafia in New

1728
01:32:30.439 --> 01:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Orleans and they all were under Carlos Marsalis. So I mean,

1729
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:36.199
<v Speaker 1>like that's a thing within the Italian and Sicilian community.

1730
01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Now a lot of them hate that.

1731
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>A lot of Italian Americans like don't want to be

1732
01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:44.159
<v Speaker 1>associated with that because that makes them look bad. The

1733
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>other side of that is like there's a sense of

1734
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>pride that comes with that being associated with something as

1735
01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>powerful as Casinostra. So like, you know, all that included

1736
01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what that was like on the Jewish side

1737
01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of things.

1738
01:32:57.119 --> 01:32:57.800
<v Speaker 2>But that makes sense.

1739
01:32:57.800 --> 01:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You were brought up Messianic and then you went to

1740
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>more orthodox, so you Christian.

1741
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, wait say again Christian.

1742
01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, so you were kind of removed from the whole

1743
01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote jewness of things. So yeah, yeah, fair enough.

1744
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get back to the chat here, uh,

1745
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:25.199
<v Speaker 1>says har G Royce. According to Jewish law, even one

1746
01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>who owns slaves don't or not supposed to treat any

1747
01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>slave with disrespect or some par the phrase acquire a slave,

1748
01:33:32.439 --> 01:33:36.479
<v Speaker 1>acquire a master because of all of the responsibilities a

1749
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>slave owner has.

1750
01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's one of the things.

1751
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Royce, we're gonna put a pin in

1752
01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:43.199
<v Speaker 1>this one, and me and you could talk about it offline,

1753
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.399
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know if you have the capabilities of

1754
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:46.159
<v Speaker 1>looking this up now.

1755
01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Apparently I don't.

1756
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:50.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where it says this in the Talmud,

1757
01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:53.399
<v Speaker 1>but in the Talmud it says that if a Jewish

1758
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>slave master beats one of their slaves to death and

1759
01:33:55.880 --> 01:34:00.760
<v Speaker 1>they're exonerated by Talmudic law or something along those lines.

1760
01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:03.039
<v Speaker 1>I've heard Jonathan mention that so many times. I'm like,

1761
01:34:03.039 --> 01:34:05.119
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that's in the book. He's pulled it

1762
01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>up before. I'm not sure if it's a misquote or

1763
01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:10.720
<v Speaker 1>what the context was, but that's one of the things

1764
01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that I've heard a lot of haters of the Jews

1765
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>bring up. As far as the talent it's concerned.

1766
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:21.079
<v Speaker 11>So as you've said, like it's the place in time,

1767
01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:24.920
<v Speaker 11>Like some of these laws that are spoken about or

1768
01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:31.119
<v Speaker 11>things that are spoken about in there are not applicable right now,

1769
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:34.680
<v Speaker 11>Like we don't have a temple.

1770
01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:40.199
<v Speaker 5>We don't we don't have a Sanhedrin, Like we don't

1771
01:34:40.239 --> 01:34:45.199
<v Speaker 5>have slaves, we don't have we don't administer the four.

1772
01:34:47.319 --> 01:34:51.079
<v Speaker 4>Ways of death. So like bringing up things.

1773
01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:53.279
<v Speaker 5>That are thousands of years ago, It's like, this is

1774
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:59.640
<v Speaker 5>kind of gets on my nerves.

1775
01:34:58.439 --> 01:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of saying san Hedrin. Do I say it right?

1776
01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Good job, perfect, Finally got it right? All right.

1777
01:35:05.119 --> 01:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard of Rabbi mir Yakov hakkuk Hallivi.

1778
01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Apparently he is.

1779
01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:13.800
<v Speaker 1>The president of the.

1780
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>What they are now calling.

1781
01:35:16.359 --> 01:35:18.720
<v Speaker 1>The new sand Heedron, and they are trying to get

1782
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>him ready to perform the sacrifices when the temple is rebuilt.

1783
01:35:22.680 --> 01:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing a lot of videos about this guy.

1784
01:35:25.039 --> 01:35:29.479
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't look like the priests from on high and

1785
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:33.119
<v Speaker 1>he he doesn't adorn himself with like the fanciest and like, nah,

1786
01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he looks like your average Jewish dude living in Israel

1787
01:35:35.680 --> 01:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>right now.

1788
01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>But apparently this guy is the guy. Have you heard

1789
01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>of him?

1790
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:43.039
<v Speaker 4>So I have not, But also tell you, like you,

1791
01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:47.920
<v Speaker 4>unless there's a temple, you can't, like the high.

1792
01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:53.439
<v Speaker 5>Priest can't adorn himself with the garments, like there's a.

1793
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Go for it.

1794
01:35:56.199 --> 01:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, well, I mean, like yeah, to to go

1795
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>into the temple, into the Holy holies and perform the sacrifices.

1796
01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>That's when he would wear the whole garb and stuff.

1797
01:36:02.960 --> 01:36:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I get that.

1798
01:36:03.479 --> 01:36:07.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying like he doesn't even as a regular guy.

1799
01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not dressed in like fine suits and like he's

1800
01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>not some sort of super wealthy, well to do guy.

1801
01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>He looks like your average Joe blow.

1802
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.720
<v Speaker 1>But he is the dude that has been chosen and

1803
01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:21.479
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, he is of the bloodline of Levi.

1804
01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:24.760
<v Speaker 1>He's a Cohen all the things, and he's like the

1805
01:36:24.920 --> 01:36:27.119
<v Speaker 1>dude that when the temple gets rebuilt, if it gets

1806
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>rebuilt in his lifetime, he is the guy that's going

1807
01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to be going in to perform the sacrifices. I didn't

1808
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>know if you had heard of him or anything about him.

1809
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear you two, since.

1810
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:40.560
<v Speaker 4>You'll also send me an article later on.

1811
01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:48.960
<v Speaker 5>That would be very interesting that I believe, at least initially, maybe.

1812
01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:52.800
<v Speaker 10>The Coen guzzle is chosen. I don't know, but it's

1813
01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:56.680
<v Speaker 10>supposed to be like father or the son. But if

1814
01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:59.079
<v Speaker 10>the son isn't worthy of it, I think they can

1815
01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:02.479
<v Speaker 10>definitely choose somebody else. But there's a lot of things

1816
01:37:02.760 --> 01:37:05.800
<v Speaker 10>that would have to have happened. So the red the

1817
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:07.920
<v Speaker 10>red heifer, that that's one.

1818
01:37:08.720 --> 01:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>They got like nine of them right now, and they're

1819
01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:12.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to breed them to make.

1820
01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>More of them.

1821
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:17.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean so according to to what I just learned

1822
01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:22.239
<v Speaker 5>not too long ago, there's only ever been ten red

1823
01:37:22.279 --> 01:37:25.319
<v Speaker 5>heifers in history, or like nine, and there will be

1824
01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:29.119
<v Speaker 5>a tenth so like that have actually been used.

1825
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:32.159
<v Speaker 4>For for the ashes. So there really haven't have not

1826
01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:33.239
<v Speaker 4>been very many of them.

1827
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that's only a thing that happens the first

1828
01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:38.479
<v Speaker 1>go round to like consecrate the altar.

1829
01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not like the thing that happens yearly.

1830
01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:44.960
<v Speaker 6>So and right.

1831
01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:49.439
<v Speaker 5>So whenever they were when whenever all of the vessels

1832
01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:52.560
<v Speaker 5>were being concentrated from the tumble. You're right, so they

1833
01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:59.479
<v Speaker 5>were sprinkled. However, when somebody, after somebody has been made

1834
01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:02.760
<v Speaker 5>pure again after their time of impurity, you need to

1835
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:06.600
<v Speaker 5>go out and be sprinkled. Yeah, so it's a it's

1836
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:09.000
<v Speaker 5>supposed to happen with with a lot and you just

1837
01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:11.159
<v Speaker 5>basically just use a little.

1838
01:38:10.840 --> 01:38:12.720
<v Speaker 4>Bit of ash and then a lot of water and

1839
01:38:13.239 --> 01:38:15.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, dipping and stuff in the stuff.

1840
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1841
01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So while things are happening, I will send you some

1842
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>articles about the guy. And I'm not like, I have

1843
01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:25.079
<v Speaker 1>no shade to throw at him. I know nothing about

1844
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>him of a positive or negative nature. He was, from

1845
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:32.159
<v Speaker 1>what I've been given to understand, chosen by other rabbis

1846
01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>his peer group to be the.

1847
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>High priest, so to speak.

1848
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:41.079
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure his credentials are long and his knowledge

1849
01:38:41.079 --> 01:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>base is beyond repute.

1850
01:38:43.560 --> 01:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure of these things.

1851
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, but anyway, yeah, we can talk more

1852
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>about that at a later time. Let's see here, Tony says,

1853
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>my wife has some issues. We have five kids, but

1854
01:38:56.880 --> 01:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>probably won't have any more. Things started going wrong with

1855
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the last press. See though our last child was fortunately healthy,

1856
01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:06.079
<v Speaker 1>we have also seen some horrible things with some of

1857
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:09.119
<v Speaker 1>our friends. One couple son died during birth basically was

1858
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:11.359
<v Speaker 1>on life support for one week and then pulled off.

1859
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Another one has abrupted placenta. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, dude,

1860
01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Birthing is And that's the thing, man, Whenever you look

1861
01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>back in the day to see that, like women had

1862
01:39:23.720 --> 01:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>like a one and four shot of dying during childbirth

1863
01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:30.800
<v Speaker 1>your child, if it was a successful childbirth. I mean, hell,

1864
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>some sort of fever, some sort of anything could just

1865
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:35.720
<v Speaker 1>take them out a moment's notice. So when you look

1866
01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:38.720
<v Speaker 1>back in time, you see these farmers had like fifteen

1867
01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:41.159
<v Speaker 1>kids and stuff, It's like, so, how many of them

1868
01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>lived to adulthood five And it's like, uh oh, oh, okay, sure,

1869
01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But like that was that was human nature for the

1870
01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:53.479
<v Speaker 1>vast majority of human history as a matter of fact.

1871
01:39:53.520 --> 01:39:55.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's the thing.

1872
01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we as humanity, not just in America

1873
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:03.039
<v Speaker 1>but across the world, are in a really good place

1874
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:07.439
<v Speaker 1>as far as the We have all of the natural

1875
01:40:07.520 --> 01:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>sources of things that we can and should be using

1876
01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:15.680
<v Speaker 1>at our disposal, but we also have the miraculous world

1877
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>of modern medicine that can save so many lives.

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01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And I think that we're in a really good place.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of that, a lot of people are not

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<v Speaker 1>having as many children as they did back in the day,

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01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, and a lot, like you said, complications have

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01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:31.479
<v Speaker 1>come up these days, and men are not just like

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<v Speaker 1>willing to lose their wives because that's just.

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<v Speaker 2>How childbirth works, like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, a lot of things have come a long

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<v Speaker 1>way as far as that's concerned. Alexandra, he banned Lucky Charms.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hell no, I'm gonna come. Yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Lucky Charms. I don't even eat much cereal

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01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>these days, but if I do have my choice, like

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01:40:51.880 --> 01:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Lucky Charms is a solid grab. But you make saying

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01:40:55.560 --> 01:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>marshmallows being so dangerous, all the dies being in this

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01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:02.439
<v Speaker 1>mixed so dangerous, even the grain part of that, because

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01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>as general mills, you know, it's good, it's whole grain.

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01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>When you look at those themselves, that's mostly like cardboard

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<v Speaker 1>and filler product too, it's not good. I love the taste,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that's the point. All the things we

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<v Speaker 1>listed tasted great, but apparently they're killing.

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01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Us slowly, so, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's what's that one cereal company they sponsor so

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<v Speaker 1>many YouTube channels with it real spoon, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>called and they have healthy all natural alternatives to lucky

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<v Speaker 1>charms for instances and all of these things. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>there are other things that we could be consuming that

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<v Speaker 1>are just as good but healthier, and hopefully possibly America

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01:41:45.680 --> 01:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>could start shifting more into that direction, that would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie says, it's crazy how dangerous food is here in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Agreed one hundred percent. No more black force ham, not pumpkin.

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<v Speaker 1>What's I if I hear beer on this list? I swear, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>alex depends on the brand of beer. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a list that came out a few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>and it showed all the horrible ingredients in most of

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<v Speaker 1>the beer products, right. A lot of it was grains

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01:42:19.479 --> 01:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that were sourced with GMO, and you know, the genetically

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01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:26.359
<v Speaker 1>modified grains that were going into the beer, which is

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<v Speaker 1>never necessarily a good thing. And I saw Guinness on

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<v Speaker 1>the list, which is my you know, beer of choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Guinness on tap Cannon bottle is gross. Fresh Guinness on

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<v Speaker 1>tap is beyond comparing, my opinion, and the ingredient in

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<v Speaker 1>it that they were saying was so bad it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a product that was a byproduct of a fish bladder.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't mad at that because it still sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a natural source to me. So like, okay, I'm

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01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>good with that now. I love blue raspberry flavored candy

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<v Speaker 1>and that's sourced from the anal glands of beavers, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like, it sounds like it's a natural source

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<v Speaker 1>to me, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not you know, that didn't shake me.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, Bush and most most Anheuser Busch products,

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<v Speaker 1>cores h Miller. These were all on the list of

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<v Speaker 1>things that we probably shouldn't be ingesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, this is Amurica.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna drink what we're gonna drink, So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not too worried about it at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see here. Merlin shared a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>What is this China science deal with Russia to build

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<v Speaker 1>a power plant on the moon, potentially leaving the US

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<v Speaker 1>in debt. Oh, for the love of God, Merlin, please

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<v Speaker 1>tell me you read this article and have some more

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<v Speaker 1>context on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Merlin, you with us, sir? There you go?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, no, not yet. I was reading that Alchemist

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<v Speaker 12>when I saw last night we're into.

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<v Speaker 2>That alchemists wanted to saw that interesting.

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<v Speaker 13>What do you mean, Oh, well, I saw this reads

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<v Speaker 13>this article where they're saying at certain they basically prove

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<v Speaker 13>that you can turn lead into gold by removing protons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, so they're splitting the atom and reconfiguring

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<v Speaker 1>it to make it a new element.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's only temporary.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, but how did alchemists in the past even though

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<v Speaker 12>that would be a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and I'm not trying to throw shade on alchemy,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do believe that that is the basis.

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<v Speaker 2>For what we would now call chemistry and true science.

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<v Speaker 1>The oldest written alchemical text is essentially a book of

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<v Speaker 1>what we would now call how could I say this

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<v Speaker 1>without sounding insulting, sleight of hand, how to make things

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<v Speaker 1>look like there's something else when it's not there was,

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<v Speaker 1>And again this is before the oldest text has nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Spiritual about it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, alchemy absolutely went into the realm of spirituality as well,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you look at Mary the Jew or Maria

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<v Speaker 1>the Jew, or whatever you want to call her. She

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<v Speaker 1>was the mother of modern alchemy, and if I'm not mistaken,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the one that created distillation and invented.

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<v Speaker 2>The double boiler.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, the way she was writing

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<v Speaker 1>things is when it started getting more into the esoteric

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<v Speaker 1>and spiritual side of things. But basically, if you read

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<v Speaker 1>what she wrote in the context that she was actually

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<v Speaker 1>writing it, and remove our modern interpretations of the words

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<v Speaker 1>and look at what she was saying, she was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a divine masculine and divine feminine. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what she wrote next to the equations that she

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<v Speaker 1>had wrote out on the side of it, we would

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<v Speaker 1>call that you mix an acid with a base and

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<v Speaker 1>you would get assault from that, and then you would

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<v Speaker 1>purify that salt to create a new element. But per

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<v Speaker 1>the wording that she was using at the time, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a divine masculine and a divine feminine to create

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<v Speaker 1>a new a She I think even used the term

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<v Speaker 1>virgin offspring or virgin birth of a new thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the way she was writing. It was very, very esoteric,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was doing that on purpose. But she also

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<v Speaker 1>believed in most alchemists, true alchemists, not Middle Ages, not

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<v Speaker 1>those guys the originators of alchemy, believed that you could

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<v Speaker 1>only perform it if you were not doing it in Hebrew,

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<v Speaker 1>then it wasn't true alchemy. And if you weren't doing

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<v Speaker 1>it during a certain month of the year, which was

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between the middle of March to the middle of April.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it was not going to work for you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But the earliest, the earliest, earliest, earliest source that we

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<v Speaker 1>have is from Egypt, and basically it shows you how

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<v Speaker 1>to take a silver spoon and you put it in

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<v Speaker 1>this liquid and stir it around a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out looking gold. It was the earliest form

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<v Speaker 1>of what we would currently call like plating. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't plating it with gold either. It was literally just

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<v Speaker 1>to give the appearance of gold. It was for like

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<v Speaker 1>the sleight of hand or the practical magic quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>of ancient Egypt, and it was nothing spiritual whatsoever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a eighty page document and each page has different

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<v Speaker 1>methods and things that you could do to make things

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<v Speaker 1>look like they transform, but not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>When you started getting more.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the chemical compounds and the breakdowns that were started

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<v Speaker 1>to happen around the turn of the millennia, right when

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<v Speaker 1>we're going from like one hundred BC to one hundred AD.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll even give you the wide birth of two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>BC to like five hundred AD. This is when they

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<v Speaker 1>were really starting to get down and dirty with what

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<v Speaker 1>we would now call like early chemistry. Cut to the

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<v Speaker 1>Renaissance and into the Middle eight where the Age of

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<v Speaker 1>Enlightenment was happening, and these people were mixing true spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>esotericness with true chemical alchemy. I don't know of any

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<v Speaker 1>that successfully created new elements from the experiments that they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing in the day and age, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>even I mean China. That's how they got gunpowder. They

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to create the elixir of life, the fountain

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<v Speaker 1>of youth, and they ended up making gunpowder. Isaac Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who, if I'm not mistaken, invented calculus to

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<v Speaker 1>explain the stars, he died from drinking mercury because a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it was something called spiritual water, which is water,

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01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:43.079
<v Speaker 1>but it's mixed with mercury and it's mixed with a

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01:48:43.079 --> 01:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of other elements to create some sort of solution

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<v Speaker 1>that you would use in a lot of alchemy. And

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<v Speaker 1>he drank that because he believed that it was the

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<v Speaker 1>elixir of life, and he died from it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>as far as transfiguring one element to another, we just

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<v Speaker 1>did an episode on monotomic gold and loidal silver. The

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<v Speaker 1>guy who invented ormus or monotomic gold, essentially was taking

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<v Speaker 1>an element and shoving so much electricity through it that

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<v Speaker 1>it was temporarily breaking off electrons from their outermost ring,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was reading that it was turning into gold.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was until he turned the machine off and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to take the gold out of it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was no longer gold. It's only like a temporary thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it to that point, I would say that that

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<v Speaker 1>is true alchemy. At least for that split second, you

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<v Speaker 1>turned one element into another. And that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>CERN's doing too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Sorry I went on a crazy long tangent

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01:49:44.520 --> 01:49:50.760
<v Speaker 1>on them, but yeah, I find alchemy to be extremely fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of people put way more

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<v Speaker 1>weight behind it than what it's due. But then in

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<v Speaker 1>another regard, a lot of people just dismissed it as

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<v Speaker 1>wu wu hook them, and it's like, no, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>is true science, you know, just because they use a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual sigil to you know, be the symbol on the

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<v Speaker 1>equation for something that they didn't fully understand. They knew

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<v Speaker 1>at least there was something happening that was beyond their

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<v Speaker 1>scope of the technology they had at their hands at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, but they knew that there was something there.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I find alchemy to be just fascinating anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>With SERN doing what they're doing though, Bro, one second,

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<v Speaker 1>they're over here splitting time portals and they got some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a living entity inside of the hydrant collider

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. Now they're over here doing alchemy. They

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<v Speaker 1>they're just doing the most over there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wild. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, is there more to that article that

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<v Speaker 1>you read or not so much as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>China the power plant on the Moon with Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, remember to help my life with a few things.

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<v Speaker 2>But heard that was dark?

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<v Speaker 4>Was that part?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm gonna google that on my own because okay,

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<v Speaker 1>China and Russia Moon power plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just see what comes up on the old jujul.

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<v Speaker 8>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, nope, that is that is a real thing

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<v Speaker 1>that is happening. Shut up. Okay, yep, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We' go go ahead and share the screen at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's learn a little something together. Good uh nights

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<v Speaker 1>members of the round table. So this is from LiveScience

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01:51:44.039 --> 01:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>dot com. China Science deal with Russia to build a

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<v Speaker 1>power plant on the Moon, potentially leaving the US in

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<v Speaker 1>the dust. A new memorandum has firmed up China and

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<v Speaker 1>Russia's intent to lead the construction of a new lunar base,

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<v Speaker 1>to be completed by twenty thirty six, as NASA talks

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<v Speaker 1>about scaling back its own louterar ambitions. Well, yeah, NASA

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<v Speaker 1>has to because SpaceX just trounce.

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01:52:06.119 --> 01:52:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Them in every regard. But anyway, when.

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<v Speaker 1>You let's see, Russia has signed to deal with China

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01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to build a nuclear power plant on the Moon. The

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01:52:14.720 --> 01:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Russian reactor will be used to power the International Lunar

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01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Research Station the ILRS, jointly led by China and Russia,

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01:52:22.359 --> 01:52:24.479
<v Speaker 1>and should be completed by twenty thirty six, according to

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01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>a memorandum of cooperations signed by the two nations. The

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01:52:27.960 --> 01:52:29.920
<v Speaker 1>announcement comes we just kind of read that one here.

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01:52:31.079 --> 01:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>The construction of the Chinese Russian reactor will lightly be

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01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:36.560
<v Speaker 1>carried out autonomously without the presence of humans.

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01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>According to a twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty four interview with Yuri Borisov, director General of Russia's

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01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>space agency ross Cosmos. Yeah, on the Russian state owned

2101
01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:52.119
<v Speaker 1>news site THASS. While details of how this can be

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01:52:52.159 --> 01:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>achieved remained unclear, Borsov added that the technology steps are

2103
01:52:56.119 --> 01:53:00.680
<v Speaker 1>almost ready. The station will conduct fundamental space research and

2104
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>test technology for long term uncrewed operations of the ILRS with.

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01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:08.119
<v Speaker 2>The prospect of a human beings presence on the Moon.

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01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Roskamoas wrote on in a May eighth announcement following the

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01:53:12.680 --> 01:53:13.920
<v Speaker 1>signing of the memorandum.

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01:53:14.079 --> 01:53:18.119
<v Speaker 2>The new research station, a permanent, manned lunar base located

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01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:21.800
<v Speaker 2>on the Moon's south pole, has so far attracted seventeen

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01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:26.039
<v Speaker 2>countries to join the program, including Egypt, Pakistan, Venezuela, Thailand,

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01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:32.159
<v Speaker 2>and South Africa. Yeah. I feel like it would. Yeah.

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01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I can see more bricks nations coming forward on this one, honestly.

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01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Its groundwork will be laid by China's twenty twenty eight

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01:53:38.680 --> 01:53:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Chung changey eight mission, which will be the nation's first

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01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:45.720
<v Speaker 1>time landing an astronaut on the lunar surface.

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01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:46.840
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>The roadmap for the ILRS was first unveiled in June

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01:53:50.680 --> 01:53:53.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, with China and Russias announcing they would

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01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>lofty pieces for a robotic moon base using five super

2120
01:53:57.279 --> 01:54:00.199
<v Speaker 1>heavy lift rockets launched from twenty thirty to twenty thirty five.

2121
01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Once these basic pieces are established, China plans additional launches

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01:54:05.039 --> 01:54:07.199
<v Speaker 1>that will extend the base further, connecting it to a

2123
01:54:07.239 --> 01:54:10.520
<v Speaker 1>space station orbiting the Moon and two nodes located at

2124
01:54:10.520 --> 01:54:15.079
<v Speaker 1>the Moon's equator and its far side. Wu yan Hua,

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01:54:15.520 --> 01:54:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the chief designer of the China's Deep Exploration project, said

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01:54:18.760 --> 01:54:21.319
<v Speaker 1>at a twenty twenty four media conference, According to a

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01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:25.760
<v Speaker 1>state media outlet, Jinhua, I'm probably mispronouncing those, but as Chinese,

2128
01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't speak it. The extended model laying the foundations

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01:54:29.239 --> 01:54:32.880
<v Speaker 1>for manned landings on Mars should be completed by twenty fifty.

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01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:39.399
<v Speaker 1>It will be powered by solar power, radio radiosotope, radioisotope

2131
01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:40.000
<v Speaker 1>excuse me.

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01:54:40.279 --> 01:54:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Be powered by solar, radioisotope and nuclear generators. Woo said.

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01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.880
<v Speaker 1>It will also include lunar Earth and high speed lunar

2134
01:54:46.920 --> 01:54:50.359
<v Speaker 1>surface communication networks, as well as lunar vehicles like a hopper,

2135
01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:56.600
<v Speaker 1>an unmanned long range vehicle, and pressurized and unpressurized manned

2136
01:54:56.720 --> 01:55:00.720
<v Speaker 1>rovers WHOA. The memorandum comes at a time of growing

2137
01:55:00.720 --> 01:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>ambition for China space programs. The country has had lunar

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01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:08.600
<v Speaker 1>present since twenty thirteen, landing the Change three's mission, which

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01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:11.199
<v Speaker 1>placed a rover on the Moon. Subsequent missions landed more

2140
01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>rovers on the Moon and Mars while collecting samples from

2141
01:55:13.680 --> 01:55:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the Moon's near and far sides and mapped out the

2142
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.920
<v Speaker 1>lunar surface. China's race to build a lunar outpost has

2143
01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:24.520
<v Speaker 1>also also has an American rival in the Artemis program,

2144
01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:29.720
<v Speaker 1>which has recently beset by delays. Artemis three, which will

2145
01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:33.800
<v Speaker 1>see NASA's astronauts return to our nearest natural satellite for

2146
01:55:33.840 --> 01:55:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the first time in over fifty years, is expected to

2147
01:55:35.920 --> 01:55:39.239
<v Speaker 1>launch sometime in twenty twenty seven. Meanwhile, the future of

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01:55:39.319 --> 01:55:43.520
<v Speaker 1>NASA's own plan lunar space station, dubbed Gateway and initially

2149
01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>slated for launch as soon as twenty twenty seven, has

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01:55:46.720 --> 01:55:49.279
<v Speaker 1>been thrown into question with the release of the Trump

2151
01:55:49.319 --> 01:55:53.800
<v Speaker 1>administration's proposed twenty twenty six budgets. The budget calls for

2152
01:55:53.840 --> 01:55:57.439
<v Speaker 1>the canceling of the Gateway mission, despite significant progress on

2153
01:55:57.560 --> 01:56:04.640
<v Speaker 1>building these station's modules. Wow, okay, I honestly didn't know

2154
01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that we were still trying to get to the Moon,

2155
01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:08.399
<v Speaker 1>but a lot to unpack.

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01:56:08.439 --> 01:56:11.039
<v Speaker 2>There, both Merlin and Tony got y'all's hand raised.

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01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Whoever wants to go first, go for it, No, right, Donny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was wondering how is this nuclear power going

2159
01:56:19.640 --> 01:56:23.119
<v Speaker 3>to work if it's using steam or not steam? Because

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01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:25.640
<v Speaker 3>the reason they use steam on Earth is waters everywhere,

2161
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:27.760
<v Speaker 3>but you can't have water on the Moon. And I'm

2162
01:56:27.760 --> 01:56:31.800
<v Speaker 3>trying to google around and see how else they can

2163
01:56:31.840 --> 01:56:34.159
<v Speaker 3>make it work. I've heard of something called nuclear thermo

2164
01:56:34.319 --> 01:56:37.680
<v Speaker 3>electric generators, but those are only good for like a

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01:56:37.680 --> 01:56:40.920
<v Speaker 3>couple of watts, and they must be looking for more

2166
01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:44.840
<v Speaker 3>than that. The last thing is you pronounced shin hua

2167
01:56:44.960 --> 01:56:47.560
<v Speaker 3>pretty well, and I can teach you how to pronounce

2168
01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:51.319
<v Speaker 3>this romanized Chinese someday if you want.

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01:56:51.920 --> 01:56:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I might need your help on it, bro, because I've

2170
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I've heard videos where these dudes pronounce it, but they

2171
01:56:56.720 --> 01:56:59.039
<v Speaker 1>also pronounce it where they thick Chinese accent, and I

2172
01:56:59.119 --> 01:57:01.840
<v Speaker 1>never really know if I'm doing it justice or not.

2173
01:57:01.920 --> 01:57:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah shin whah okay? So the change three? Is

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01:57:04.880 --> 01:57:06.760
<v Speaker 1>that change three or chung e three?

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01:57:09.119 --> 01:57:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Sorry? Yeah, chuned uh. It's two syllables chung u.

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01:57:13.760 --> 01:57:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Chung uh Okay, not fair enough. You can't win them all,

2177
01:57:17.079 --> 01:57:23.079
<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate it. Uh Merlin, hand raised what you got?

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01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.439
<v Speaker 12>Okay, So it leaves me to speculate what do they

2179
01:57:26.680 --> 01:57:28.119
<v Speaker 12>what do they think is on the Moon that's going

2180
01:57:28.159 --> 01:57:29.479
<v Speaker 12>to help them with the power plant?

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01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:32.079
<v Speaker 6>Why do they need a power plant on the Moon?

2182
01:57:32.159 --> 01:57:33.439
<v Speaker 6>Where are they going to power?

2183
01:57:33.600 --> 01:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Like they're trying to make a lunar space station and

2184
01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>they need power to operate it. So they're trying to

2185
01:57:40.760 --> 01:57:46.159
<v Speaker 1>build a nuclear power plant to power their lunar research lab.

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01:57:47.159 --> 01:57:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm kind of what Tony on this.

2187
01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:51.560
<v Speaker 1>You need water in order to make a nuclear power

2188
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:53.319
<v Speaker 1>plant work, because that's all it is, is a steam

2189
01:57:53.359 --> 01:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>turbine essentially. I don't I don't know what they're trying

2190
01:57:57.880 --> 01:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to do here because water doesn't do water things in space,

2191
01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:06.119
<v Speaker 1>so unless they're trying to use But even that, even

2192
01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>with that being said, like heat heat rises, but the

2193
01:58:10.199 --> 01:58:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Moon doesn't have the same gravity as Earth, So how

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01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:16.159
<v Speaker 1>does heat react as far as that goes like a

2195
01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:18.640
<v Speaker 1>heat generator? Does it go up? Does it go out?

2196
01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>In all directions? I have no idea how they're trying

2197
01:58:21.880 --> 01:58:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to spin a turbine on the Moon with this type

2198
01:58:24.439 --> 01:58:28.039
<v Speaker 1>of power, But okay, right.

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01:58:27.960 --> 01:58:31.840
<v Speaker 6>And what I've been like, what happens if something explodes.

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01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:31.840
<v Speaker 4>On the Moon?

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01:58:32.399 --> 01:58:33.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess we lose the moon.

2202
01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's gonna stay accrescent for the rest of time, man,

2203
01:58:38.680 --> 01:58:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean I but even still like it. As I'm

2204
01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:45.359
<v Speaker 1>saying that, it's like, yeah, how many things have to

2205
01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:47.000
<v Speaker 1>go wrong to have a lunarture nobile?

2206
01:58:47.039 --> 01:58:50.479
<v Speaker 2>But also like, yo, how many things have to go wrong?

2207
01:58:50.920 --> 01:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Like could one thing go wrong and we have a

2208
01:58:52.840 --> 01:58:54.159
<v Speaker 1>lunar chernobyl situation?

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01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:57.600
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, then the moon has such an effect on Earth,

2210
01:58:57.920 --> 01:59:01.119
<v Speaker 6>you know, gravity like everything. Yeah, like they say, it's

2211
01:59:01.119 --> 01:59:04.920
<v Speaker 6>in the perfect position for us to actually be functioning,

2212
01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:09.720
<v Speaker 6>so something severe like I don't know, like how much

2213
01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:11.159
<v Speaker 6>weight you would have to add to the Moon or

2214
01:59:11.159 --> 01:59:12.880
<v Speaker 6>how much weight you have to take away from the

2215
01:59:12.920 --> 01:59:16.359
<v Speaker 6>Moon for it to start, you know, shifting positions. But

2216
01:59:16.520 --> 01:59:19.680
<v Speaker 6>none of this seems like a good idea, Like Mars.

2217
01:59:19.720 --> 01:59:20.560
<v Speaker 6>I cant nderstand Mars.

2218
01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:23.479
<v Speaker 12>It's really far away by all means, go be dumb,

2219
01:59:23.720 --> 01:59:25.239
<v Speaker 12>really far away from our homes.

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01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:29.119
<v Speaker 3>I agree, Yeah, I get one other thing. I think

2221
01:59:29.159 --> 01:59:31.560
<v Speaker 3>they're just going to use lots of solar panels. I

2222
01:59:31.600 --> 01:59:33.760
<v Speaker 3>was talking to a friend of mine who actually works

2223
01:59:33.800 --> 01:59:36.399
<v Speaker 3>on nuclear power plants, and he says the reason they

2224
01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:39.640
<v Speaker 3>don't do any kind of nuclear stuff up in space,

2225
01:59:41.920 --> 01:59:45.239
<v Speaker 3>even it's been speculated in the past we could launch

2226
01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:49.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, nuclear warheads up there just to orbit, orbit

2227
01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:52.119
<v Speaker 3>until we need them. But there's also risk in just

2228
01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:53.760
<v Speaker 3>putting them up there in the first place, because what

2229
01:59:53.760 --> 01:59:57.119
<v Speaker 3>if they blow up on the way up? Sure, because yeah,

2230
01:59:57.119 --> 02:00:00.199
<v Speaker 3>that will spread radiation all over the upper atmosphe and

2231
02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:02.199
<v Speaker 3>all over a white stretch of Earth. And if you

2232
02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:07.119
<v Speaker 3>try to get any enriched uranium or any other radioactive

2233
02:00:07.159 --> 02:00:09.159
<v Speaker 3>material all the way up to the Moon, there's always

2234
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:11.600
<v Speaker 3>the probability it could explode on the way up, and

2235
02:00:12.199 --> 02:00:15.039
<v Speaker 3>that would be a large potential consequence. So that's another

2236
02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:16.600
<v Speaker 3>reason they might not do it.

2237
02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:20.199
<v Speaker 1>And we've talked about that on the Cult Dude Operation Fishbowl,

2238
02:00:20.479 --> 02:00:24.319
<v Speaker 1>when the US government started launching nukes into the sky

2239
02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:28.399
<v Speaker 1>and blowing them up. Just I've tried, I have tried

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02:00:28.479 --> 02:00:31.239
<v Speaker 1>finding what kind of research they were hoping to gain,

2241
02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:36.239
<v Speaker 1>What was the reason for doing that. The best answer

2242
02:00:36.319 --> 02:00:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I can find is just to see what would happen. Like,

2243
02:00:40.760 --> 02:00:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I cannot find one actual credible scientist that was like, oh,

2244
02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:46.760
<v Speaker 1>we were doing it to test this or to see

2245
02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:49.079
<v Speaker 1>what would happen with this. It was just to see

2246
02:00:49.800 --> 02:00:51.880
<v Speaker 1>just to see how far the radiation went spread and

2247
02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:54.159
<v Speaker 1>how big the blast would be. And you know why

2248
02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:56.399
<v Speaker 1>not so high up it wouldn't affect anybody. But but

2249
02:00:56.399 --> 02:00:59.439
<v Speaker 1>but I've also heard theories to say that that is

2250
02:00:59.479 --> 02:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>where the whole and our ozone layer actually came from,

2251
02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:05.800
<v Speaker 1>was from America launching nukes at it. So I don't

2252
02:01:05.880 --> 02:01:08.560
<v Speaker 1>know that. For a fact, I don't think we need

2253
02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>nuclear anything on the Moon. It would make way more

2254
02:01:11.600 --> 02:01:13.960
<v Speaker 1>sense to have solar panels. They don't have an atmosphere

2255
02:01:13.960 --> 02:01:17.199
<v Speaker 1>blocking off the Sun's rays. You could have an almost

2256
02:01:17.279 --> 02:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>perfect energy supply of solar panels for that purpose. But

2257
02:01:23.039 --> 02:01:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that because I know Live Science and they

2258
02:01:25.640 --> 02:01:29.199
<v Speaker 1>don't just it's not a tabloid type of website. They

2259
02:01:29.520 --> 02:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>usually are reporting on the cutting edge of what's going

2260
02:01:32.079 --> 02:01:33.600
<v Speaker 1>on in the technological world.

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02:01:34.239 --> 02:01:35.279
<v Speaker 2>So for them to.

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02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Wow, for China and Russia to sign a memorandum to

2263
02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:48.840
<v Speaker 1>unanimously put a nuclear power plant on the Moon, there's

2264
02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>so many questions, y'all.

2265
02:01:50.399 --> 02:01:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And I mean it's not even like, oh, they're colluding,

2266
02:01:52.800 --> 02:01:54.239
<v Speaker 2>like whatever.

2267
02:01:53.920 --> 02:01:55.840
<v Speaker 1>It could be anybody, It could be us, it could

2268
02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:58.960
<v Speaker 1>be us in the UK having this conversation, and the

2269
02:01:59.000 --> 02:02:02.439
<v Speaker 1>same questions would come into my mind. It's like, I

2270
02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't get it. I don't get it, Merlin,

2271
02:02:04.960 --> 02:02:06.359
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, all.

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02:02:06.279 --> 02:02:09.239
<v Speaker 12>Right, So the fantastical part of my brain they sitting

2273
02:02:09.239 --> 02:02:14.279
<v Speaker 12>here telling me that maybe that movie, that movie moon Fall,

2274
02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:17.159
<v Speaker 12>where the Moon is actually like a space station, a

2275
02:02:17.239 --> 02:02:20.439
<v Speaker 12>really old space station, and they're using a nuclear power

2276
02:02:20.439 --> 02:02:22.840
<v Speaker 12>plant to somewhat try to jump start it, and that's

2277
02:02:22.880 --> 02:02:24.600
<v Speaker 12>why they picked the south Pole because that's where the

2278
02:02:24.600 --> 02:02:30.520
<v Speaker 12>plugin spot is. Okay, that's It's just nothing that really

2279
02:02:30.520 --> 02:02:33.960
<v Speaker 12>makes sense, Like you're gonna use a power plant to

2280
02:02:34.039 --> 02:02:37.319
<v Speaker 12>power the moon station? But yeah, solar panels will work

2281
02:02:37.439 --> 02:02:39.159
<v Speaker 12>way more effectively.

2282
02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:43.760
<v Speaker 6>And the moon tip generally always gets hit with shit. Yeah,

2283
02:02:43.800 --> 02:02:45.760
<v Speaker 6>like you've got all those craters for a reason.

2284
02:02:46.279 --> 02:02:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what are we.

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02:02:48.680 --> 02:02:51.760
<v Speaker 6>Going to protect a power plant with on the Moon?

2286
02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm I don't know if this is them just

2287
02:02:56.439 --> 02:03:00.079
<v Speaker 1>trying to flex on other countries or if they're there

2288
02:03:00.199 --> 02:03:03.479
<v Speaker 1>is actually some sort of goal they're trying to achieve here,

2289
02:03:03.840 --> 02:03:06.880
<v Speaker 1>like something that we don't see just yet because we

2290
02:03:07.159 --> 02:03:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, we just don't have the mind for it yet.

2291
02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:11.479
<v Speaker 2>But like I'm with you.

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02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I just and even with solar panels, Let's say they

2293
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<v Speaker 1>were to make a solar farm on the moon, like

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02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:22.439
<v Speaker 1>same concept. The Moon gets hit with so much shit,

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02:03:22.600 --> 02:03:24.800
<v Speaker 1>so many media or so many asteroids, whatever, and it's

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02:03:24.840 --> 02:03:27.880
<v Speaker 1>not always big or small. There's no way you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to repair those solar panels in space like

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02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you can only you only have the materials you brought

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02:03:33.680 --> 02:03:35.680
<v Speaker 1>up there with you. And I mean, I understand you

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02:03:35.720 --> 02:03:38.680
<v Speaker 1>have to be resourceful and figured out, but to what

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02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:41.840
<v Speaker 1>point and to what end? Like, I just I don't.

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02:03:41.880 --> 02:03:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it personally. This may all be a

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02:03:45.720 --> 02:03:48.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy flex. We get to the year twenty twenty seven

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02:03:49.039 --> 02:03:51.399
<v Speaker 1>or twenty thirty, like they were saying, and they're like, hey,

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02:03:51.600 --> 02:03:52.720
<v Speaker 1>we're scrubbing the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, we can't do it because we've got other

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02:03:54.600 --> 02:03:55.239
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on.

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02:03:55.359 --> 02:03:57.760
<v Speaker 1>And all of this was just to get people talking

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02:03:58.119 --> 02:04:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's possible. I just I don't see it. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say it is because the Moon is some sort

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02:04:03.760 --> 02:04:07.159
<v Speaker 1>of ancient alien spacecraft or so.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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02:04:08.119 --> 02:04:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily believe that, but I've read a lot

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02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of articles on the cult to conspiracy saying similar things,

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02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and if the are trying to use nuclear power to

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02:04:16.960 --> 02:04:21.199
<v Speaker 1>jump start it, that still begs the question. Nuclear power

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02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is to produce heat to create steam to turn the turbines,

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02:04:24.560 --> 02:04:27.840
<v Speaker 1>unless they have a whole new way of using nuclear power,

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02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like Tony was saying, maybe with heat induction. But even still,

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02:04:30.960 --> 02:04:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you're in space. Heat doesn't do the same thing there

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02:04:33.920 --> 02:04:36.520
<v Speaker 1>as it does here. So like I don't I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's wild, that is wild as hell. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for.

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<v Speaker 3>Bringing out with Yeah, thermoelectric generators have been used with

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02:04:48.039 --> 02:04:54.439
<v Speaker 3>nuclear material up in Arctic climate monitoring stations, but it's

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02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:57.960
<v Speaker 3>way simpler than a steam turbine. You know how thermocouple works.

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02:04:58.159 --> 02:05:01.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just when you put two dissimilar together and put

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02:05:01.760 --> 02:05:05.239
<v Speaker 3>them put you know, one end of the wire in

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02:05:05.279 --> 02:05:07.239
<v Speaker 3>a hot place and another in a cold blaze. It

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02:05:07.279 --> 02:05:10.279
<v Speaker 3>induces a voltage, but the voltage is really small. It's

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02:05:10.319 --> 02:05:12.439
<v Speaker 3>like millivolts. But if you put a bunch of those

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02:05:12.479 --> 02:05:15.399
<v Speaker 3>in series and you heat up one end of it,

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02:05:15.640 --> 02:05:17.199
<v Speaker 3>you can get a couple of volts, but you can

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02:05:17.239 --> 02:05:19.279
<v Speaker 3>only get like one watt out of it, So it's

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02:05:19.359 --> 02:05:22.359
<v Speaker 3>enough to power a little clock or something, but it's

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02:05:22.439 --> 02:05:26.479
<v Speaker 3>not enough to power you know, a heater or anything

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02:05:26.560 --> 02:05:26.920
<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way that they could take a load. There's

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02:05:29.560 --> 02:05:31.760
<v Speaker 1>no way you can get ambage off of something like that.

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02:05:32.680 --> 02:05:34.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the kind of thing that's only good for

2341
02:05:34.359 --> 02:05:37.079
<v Speaker 3>weather monitoring stations out in the middle of nowhere, where

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02:05:37.079 --> 02:05:40.039
<v Speaker 3>you need something really simple that'll provide a really small

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02:05:40.079 --> 02:05:43.319
<v Speaker 3>amount of power. It wouldn't work on the Moon, though.

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02:05:43.680 --> 02:05:45.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying, like to build and let's

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02:05:45.920 --> 02:05:48.159
<v Speaker 1>say that is their method. That is the nuclear power

2346
02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:50.640
<v Speaker 1>plant that they're trying to build, is something along like that, like,

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02:05:52.239 --> 02:05:55.119
<v Speaker 1>unless they've got some sort of a new way, more

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02:05:55.119 --> 02:05:57.800
<v Speaker 1>efficient way of doing that. And again, I don't know

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02:05:57.840 --> 02:06:00.000
<v Speaker 1>how that even though with a thermal couple like you saying,

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02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:05.359
<v Speaker 1>in space, does heat react differently? Does it do different

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02:06:05.399 --> 02:06:08.279
<v Speaker 1>things physically than it does on Earth? I know, hot

2352
02:06:08.279 --> 02:06:11.880
<v Speaker 1>things expand cold things contract, and that makes sense in

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02:06:11.920 --> 02:06:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the vacuum of space. I don't know if that's a

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02:06:14.600 --> 02:06:19.920
<v Speaker 1>more drastic expansion in contraction or if it's kind of

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02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:23.680
<v Speaker 1>negligible even further because there's no oxygen for the or

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02:06:23.720 --> 02:06:26.439
<v Speaker 1>air I should say, for the heat to transfer through.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm pretty sure the thermoelectric generator would work. It

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02:06:31.439 --> 02:06:34.279
<v Speaker 3>just wouldn't produce anywhere near enough power. And when it

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02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:37.239
<v Speaker 3>comes to steam, I think that would just be such

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02:06:37.239 --> 02:06:41.279
<v Speaker 3>an engineering nightmare that I don't see that working. But

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02:06:41.640 --> 02:06:44.279
<v Speaker 3>maybe they've already answered that question. But I've googled it

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02:06:44.319 --> 02:06:46.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm looking at an AI summary and I don't

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02:06:46.680 --> 02:06:49.239
<v Speaker 3>trust it, and I'm trying to find other sources and

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02:06:49.279 --> 02:06:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I just couldn't find anything really good on it. So personally,

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<v Speaker 3>I would just use lots of solar panels up there.

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02:06:55.039 --> 02:06:57.199
<v Speaker 3>I think that would work. Except you know, nighttime is

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02:06:57.239 --> 02:07:01.000
<v Speaker 3>like sixteen days long on the moon, right, maybe that's

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02:07:01.079 --> 02:07:03.560
<v Speaker 3>another reason they feel like they need something else. But

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02:07:04.600 --> 02:07:05.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm speculating here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

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02:07:07.159 --> 02:07:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even our moon getting direct sunlight like it

2373
02:07:10.319 --> 02:07:14.640
<v Speaker 1>does fine, cool, we watch the phases of the moon,

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02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:17.520
<v Speaker 1>not all of it gets direct sunlight as often.

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02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Like, So maybe maybe with.

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02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:24.079
<v Speaker 1>A super efficient solar panel you would be able to

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02:07:24.479 --> 02:07:26.960
<v Speaker 1>get and attain as much solar energy as you could

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02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>while you had direct sunlight to where it would make

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02:07:28.840 --> 02:07:30.199
<v Speaker 1>up for the times when the moon is dark.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I'm with you.

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02:07:32.560 --> 02:07:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't see a possible way, at least for my

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02:07:36.039 --> 02:07:38.840
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of technology. I'm not the all knowwhere here. I

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02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:41.239
<v Speaker 1>don't see a possible way where they could make a

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02:07:41.319 --> 02:07:44.880
<v Speaker 1>nuclear reactor on the moon work to power anything other

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02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:47.880
<v Speaker 1>than like to show it as a science fair project.

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02:07:47.960 --> 02:07:50.760
<v Speaker 1>They're talking about it powering the entire lunar lad that

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02:07:50.760 --> 02:07:52.880
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to put up there. I just I can't

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02:07:52.920 --> 02:07:55.039
<v Speaker 1>see it make sense in my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Merlin, Well.

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02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:00.000
<v Speaker 13>I just give it.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's ice on the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently there's ice on the Moon. I know there was

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02:08:05.239 --> 02:08:06.000
<v Speaker 2>ice on Mars.

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02:08:06.720 --> 02:08:10.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, there's ice on the Moon and at the poles.

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02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:16.880
<v Speaker 2>But you can't make steam out of ice. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, man, we'll see how it goes. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very possible. What's up, White boy, Wizard, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Cage to Night Live. H we're talking right now about

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02:08:27.600 --> 02:08:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Chinese and Russian collaboration to put a nuclear power plant

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02:08:30.840 --> 02:08:33.520
<v Speaker 1>on the Moon by twenty thirty. There's an article we

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02:08:33.600 --> 02:08:38.399
<v Speaker 1>just read about that, and uh yeah, yeah, party time.

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02:08:38.960 --> 02:08:41.920
<v Speaker 6>I guess we're gonna throw some bodies of water under the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ice, Okay, okay, if that was would have.

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02:08:49.000 --> 02:08:51.680
<v Speaker 12>A heating effect, and then you'd only get so warm,

2405
02:08:51.760 --> 02:08:53.680
<v Speaker 12>but the top layer would stayte so cold.

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02:08:54.880 --> 02:08:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Then we're in a vacuum of space, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if we actually understand what the

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02:09:01.239 --> 02:09:04.600
<v Speaker 1>core of the Moon is made of. I've heard speculations

2409
02:09:04.600 --> 02:09:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to say that it's magma very similar to the Earth's,

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02:09:06.840 --> 02:09:09.439
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that to be a fact. I

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02:09:09.680 --> 02:09:12.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's just a giant, cold, dusty rock

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02:09:12.079 --> 02:09:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and like all the way through to the core, that's

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02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:18.439
<v Speaker 1>all it is. I don't know what to make of it, bro,

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02:09:18.640 --> 02:09:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm be honest with you. I appreciate the hell out

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02:09:20.840 --> 02:09:23.399
<v Speaker 1>of you for bringing it up tonight, though. That's that's

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02:09:23.439 --> 02:09:26.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna bake my noodle for quite a few weeks now.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, well same here. If there is ice, I

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02:09:29.880 --> 02:09:33.600
<v Speaker 3>guess they could make it work theoretically, and you know,

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02:09:33.640 --> 02:09:37.760
<v Speaker 3>it would turn into steam for their power generation step,

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02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:40.680
<v Speaker 3>and then it would condense back into ice. The thing

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02:09:40.720 --> 02:09:43.640
<v Speaker 3>about having a total vacuum is you can't have liquid water,

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02:09:43.720 --> 02:09:49.800
<v Speaker 3>but you can still, you know, sublimate steam.

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02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:49.800
<v Speaker 4>So that.

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02:09:51.479 --> 02:09:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Ice go sublime, and then using that vapor to power

2425
02:09:54.439 --> 02:09:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the turbans. But then even still the collection of that

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02:09:56.800 --> 02:09:59.840
<v Speaker 1>vapor to make it go back to a solid Mike

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02:10:00.039 --> 02:10:09.239
<v Speaker 1>odd like you said, yeah, good God almighty, maybe they

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02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:12.840
<v Speaker 1>will be successful. I don't know. I mean again, I

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02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't even know. In space, how hard is it to

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02:10:14.680 --> 02:10:19.359
<v Speaker 1>sublimate ice because you're going straight through the phase changes,

2431
02:10:19.399 --> 02:10:22.159
<v Speaker 1>you're skipping straight over a liquid But if is that

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02:10:22.239 --> 02:10:24.800
<v Speaker 1>just what happens in the vacuum of space, it just

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02:10:24.920 --> 02:10:27.640
<v Speaker 1>does that on its own, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can actually answer this question. You sum up

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02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:34.439
<v Speaker 3>the heat of fusion with the heat of vaporization, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a heat of vaporization is twenty five hundred kilodeweles

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02:10:38.319 --> 02:10:40.560
<v Speaker 3>per kilogram for water, and the heat of fusion is

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02:10:40.600 --> 02:10:44.720
<v Speaker 3>something maybe like a quarter of that, And the amount

2439
02:10:44.760 --> 02:10:47.960
<v Speaker 3>of energy it takes to get water from zero to

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02:10:48.000 --> 02:10:52.479
<v Speaker 3>a hundred celsius is four hundred kilojeweles per kilogram. So

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02:10:52.680 --> 02:10:55.119
<v Speaker 3>most of the energy is going to just vaporizing it.

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02:10:55.720 --> 02:11:02.840
<v Speaker 3>And this could theoretically work. It's just recovering water in

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02:11:02.880 --> 02:11:04.960
<v Speaker 3>the H two on the form of ice instead of

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02:11:05.079 --> 02:11:08.680
<v Speaker 3>liquid water. It's difficult, but I guess I could sort

2445
02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:10.640
<v Speaker 3>of see and it work. See it working if they

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02:11:10.680 --> 02:11:13.039
<v Speaker 3>have an actual water source, which I assumed that they

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02:11:13.039 --> 02:11:16.119
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have had. But if there really is ice up there,

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02:11:16.119 --> 02:11:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I guess they do have it and maybe it would work.

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02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:21.239
<v Speaker 1>But like sid, there's no way that that would be efficient. Right,

2450
02:11:21.279 --> 02:11:24.800
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about over one kilo jewel to turn just

2451
02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:27.600
<v Speaker 1>water to steam or ice to steam in the first place,

2452
02:11:28.680 --> 02:11:31.600
<v Speaker 1>there's no way that you're gonna get enough output off

2453
02:11:31.640 --> 02:11:35.359
<v Speaker 1>of a turbine to make that. You're not gonna get

2454
02:11:35.399 --> 02:11:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the output you need off of that. You're gonna take

2455
02:11:37.720 --> 02:11:40.199
<v Speaker 1>more input just to make it work. Then you'll get

2456
02:11:40.239 --> 02:11:41.840
<v Speaker 1>off of it to try to use it to power

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02:11:41.880 --> 02:11:42.319
<v Speaker 1>a lab.

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02:11:42.840 --> 02:11:47.439
<v Speaker 3>I yeah, I would just use solar panels. Yeah, yeah,

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02:11:47.560 --> 02:11:48.439
<v Speaker 3>that's what I would do.

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02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:49.560
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

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02:11:49.760 --> 02:11:53.359
<v Speaker 1>But again, China and Russia'll be doing China and Russia things,

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02:11:53.399 --> 02:11:57.119
<v Speaker 1>So who's to say. I don't know. Merlin, thank you

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02:11:57.199 --> 02:12:02.640
<v Speaker 1>again for bringing up that article. My god, that is fascinating. Uh,

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02:12:02.760 --> 02:12:05.720
<v Speaker 1>let's see. Uh, just thinking about that song y'all played

2465
02:12:05.800 --> 02:12:09.600
<v Speaker 1>last night that Yo. We are not going to play

2466
02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the song on the Cajun Night for obvious reasons. But

2467
02:12:13.960 --> 02:12:18.520
<v Speaker 1>if anybody hasn't heard Kanye West's new song about the

2468
02:12:18.720 --> 02:12:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Funny mustache Man, yo, I understand why people are not

2469
02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:31.239
<v Speaker 1>too happy with o yeezus himself at this moment about it.

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02:12:31.319 --> 02:12:37.079
<v Speaker 1>That's uh, that's that's yep. That is one of the

2471
02:12:37.199 --> 02:12:40.199
<v Speaker 1>most songs that have ever been recorded. Some might say

2472
02:12:40.239 --> 02:12:43.199
<v Speaker 1>one of the most, you know, but hey, it's uh

2473
02:12:43.319 --> 02:12:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what that is. Uh yeah, Alex, I'm with you.

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02:12:45.880 --> 02:12:48.880
<v Speaker 1>That was that was wild. Uh it says y'all y

2475
02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:51.399
<v Speaker 1>new art. Oh yeah, Royce, I do love the art

2476
02:12:51.399 --> 02:12:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that you do.

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02:12:52.039 --> 02:12:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Can't wait to get mine. I'm excited.

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02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh let's see here, drink PAP's Blue Ribbon every single day.

2479
02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Paps as we're talking about, like the beers

2480
02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:03.319
<v Speaker 1>and things that were off that were on the list

2481
02:13:03.359 --> 02:13:04.800
<v Speaker 1>of bad things that we shouldn't drink.

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02:13:05.199 --> 02:13:08.800
<v Speaker 2>If I'm not mistaken, PBR was not on the list.

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02:13:09.039 --> 02:13:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh perhaps blue Ribbon I do believe is safe for

2484
02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.439
<v Speaker 2>human consumption. It's a rough drink, but it's also it

2485
02:13:15.479 --> 02:13:17.720
<v Speaker 2>won a Blue Ribbon back in the eighteen hundred. So

2486
02:13:17.920 --> 02:13:19.680
<v Speaker 2>let's get the respect where it's due. You know.

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02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's see if I was in Star Wars, mean, my

2488
02:13:22.399 --> 02:13:24.680
<v Speaker 1>friends would have Oh god, that's funny.

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02:13:25.439 --> 02:13:29.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, well we are getting ready. Oh yeah,

2490
02:13:29.960 --> 02:13:30.760
<v Speaker 2>how Hitler.

2491
02:13:30.640 --> 02:13:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Is just like wop from twenty nineteen as as base

2492
02:13:34.960 --> 02:13:37.880
<v Speaker 1>an offensive as possible, trying to get attention. Yeah, one

2493
02:13:37.920 --> 02:13:40.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent with you, Tony. It's it's a grab. It's

2494
02:13:40.760 --> 02:13:43.359
<v Speaker 1>just an attention grab for Kanye to try to stay relevant.

2495
02:13:43.359 --> 02:13:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Although you know, I get what he's trying to do,

2496
02:13:47.239 --> 02:13:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but there were so many other things you could have

2497
02:13:49.600 --> 02:13:51.760
<v Speaker 1>done to get attention and stay relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>You just that's that's somebody doing the absolute mostess, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, anyway, that's Hollywood for you, that's music industry

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dirty place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dirty, dirty place with dead bodies and baby

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<v Speaker 1>oil littered everywhere. Speaking of the Diddy trials and everything, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent thing that I just watched about it that.

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<v Speaker 2>These people were like, oh they did what, They used.

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<v Speaker 1>A prostitute like a toilet, which like it's gross, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, but like that that's kind of expected.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're talking about this level of disgusting behavior and

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<v Speaker 1>then hiring a male prostitute to hook up with his

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<v Speaker 1>wife while he watched in a cup chair. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I that's not nearly as bad as what I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was about to say.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, more things are coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Children are about to be brought in and implemented to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of disgusting things. I could already see the

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<v Speaker 1>writing on the wall. It's it's gonna be bad. So yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>the music industry and Hollywood disgusting places. That's where dreams

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<v Speaker 1>go to die. But anyway, all right, didn't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>end this on such a sour note. We have had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty fun episode this evening. I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>everybody for coming out and being a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night Live Again, to anybody listening, if you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to join in the conversation every Wednesday night at

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<v Speaker 1>nine pm Central, then please come check out the Cajun

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<v Speaker 1>Night on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 2>The link is in the description below. There's just one

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<v Speaker 2>tier for entry.

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<v Speaker 1>We are just trying to collect a group of like

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<v Speaker 1>minded people to have these interesting, in depth conversations. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's geopolitical, sometimes it's religious. Sometimes it's science and technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it is media and Hollywood and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's conspiratorial. Sometimes it's all the above, Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>none of the above. Sometimes it's talking about birthing for

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes. Like, look, we're all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're here for all of it. I thoroughly, thoroughly

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy our Wednesday Night conversations. Once again, everybody, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to thank each and every one of you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining in this evening. I am the Cajun Night and

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<v Speaker 1>as always, ladies and gentlemen, God bless
