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Speaker 2: Welcome to Softcore History. Welcome back to Softcore History.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host for the week, danar Chester, joined as

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always by Rob Fox.

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Speaker 3: Just do over here, Stern my drink with a finger

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like a classy.

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Speaker 2: Man and first timer on the show. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: New employee though of Tetherball Media. Our new kind of clipbitch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's me. I think clip donkey, clip donkey, Yeah, Tiger,

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new guy Slugger. We've been trying a lot of nicknames.

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I don't know which to stick in yet. How to

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stick with your actual name? Ryan Ma Ryan's cool. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I actually hate nicknames, so I like, I don't like

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hate like stop called, but I am like, this is

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just some morning show shit it is.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather just think out my name.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, one of the hosts of the show we work

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on is also named Dan, so I can't be Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's them's the rules. Unfortunate. Yeah, he was here first.

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I suppose I.

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Speaker 3: Would just rather be If you're gonna give me a

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morning show name, just go all into it, you know

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what I mean, Just be something like Dick fart.

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Speaker 2: B the Molester. But every time he says your name too,

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there's a sound effect to it. Yeah, it's just like.

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Speaker 3: Zing, Yeah, just a boner and then a fart. Just

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go full morning zoo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick with rag guy Ruy for a while.

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Speaker 2: I in the last industry I worked in, I had

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to go buy my nickname online, which is Mafia, because

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there was at least always three or four different Ryans

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in the same place at the same time. Yeah, so

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someone would say Ryan and just all of us be like,

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who's talking to? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: At least I have an area that is starting to

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become semi notorious.

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Speaker 2: Popped up a lot. I worked out for you.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people from that area that are notable.

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I guess are they. There's plenty of factors. Yeah, plenty

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of NBA referees. I have to go to prison.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck that dude, Well did he hurt you? Just

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the two thousand and two series. Is that the Kings Lakers? Yeah, okay, yeah,

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game seven, you know, And then he goes on a

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dock and says, yeah, we had to fix that game

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because that's unfortunately fixed. You're an A's fan about murdered

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my family after that game? Oh man, that was that

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was all we had in Sacramento.

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Speaker 3: What a what a grim way to die murdered over

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a Sacramento Kings game.

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Speaker 2: It's almost as bad as dying over like a Utah

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Jazz game or something like. It is the lowest of

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the lows for sports team.

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Speaker 3: So that is I will say though, that's my favorite

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line in Book of Mormon.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was referencing.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like that guy was like when my

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dad used to beat up my mom whenever the Utah

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Jazz lost or yeah, I think it's better than that.

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But brilliant in the song. Yeah, I just love it.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a lovable dirt bag today in

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the form of a husky.

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Speaker 2: Like the dog.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about dog, dude, dog. We're having

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a very controversial episode over dogs.

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Speaker 2: Dogs. Fuck dogs. Actually, I will say this, fuck.

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Speaker 3: Fuck every husky owner that I see in Texas. Oh, yeah,

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that dog should not be living here.

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: I don't really see him as much now that I

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have my own house, but when I lived in apartments, uh,

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dogs down after work to like the common area, and

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there would be like five fucking huskies. It's July exist

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it's pain yeah, like six o'clock. And then also I

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who corrected me is probably right, but I don't want

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to believe it's right. Another common dog I saw in

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my apartment complex, like three or four of them Great Danes.

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are good apartment dogs. Yeah, they just they chilling that

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Speaker 3: They're just sedentary. That is actually also the fucked up

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Speaker 2: A Great Dane. It's like it's dead in like seven years,

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Speaker 1: It's only around long enough to somewhat like it. You're

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not gonna fall in love with it.

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Speaker 3: No, No, you'll never get a chance to fall in

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love with that, with that puppy, So own a great

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day if you don't want to feel too emotionally connected

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to a dog, great Day's.

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Speaker 2: The situationship of dogs. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, my pug mix is fifteen and like no signs

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of even close.

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Speaker 2: To Yeah, that dog will be here after you, Yeah,

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one hundred percent. It'll be raising your kids for you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Partially the reason I'm doing this episode is my friend

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Shia's little little dog seventeen years old. He's starting to

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he might be on his way out. He's had three

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strokes in the last two days.

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Speaker 2: Two days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a compact amount of time for the

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call for help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of become my dog too. I've watched him

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for over a month before at my.

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Speaker 3: House I met this dog didn't have to go and

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Speaker 1: Yeah full stand yeah, yeah, yeah, so shot to my

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boys stand. It had me all up in my feels

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because I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Its sad, and then I mean it's sad too because

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a little boy has that dog? Yeah, are you gonna

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strangle it? No? Please, please don't just put it down

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in the normal way. We're not doing this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I can't go down this bit road, not this bitter

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rud I can talk about my kids, your kids.

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Speaker 2: But this is a little too per stand for the dog.

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I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares about your kids. People care about dogs.

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Speaker 2: My God.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I'm doing this episode two is because

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we add a lot of pushback on your Egypt episode. Yeah,

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so we got to win over some things. Egyptians built

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the pyramids, and that's my takeaways. The Egyptians built the pyramids,

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and someone wrote under it. This is the most historically

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inaccurate episode of the show.

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Speaker 2: People who I didn't know listen to this podcast texted

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me about it, knowing that I work with you guys now,

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and they're like, WHOA, that episode was crazy. Did that

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actually happen or no, I read that this happened. It was.

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Speaker 1: So I'm playing this safe. We're doing a smart, family

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friendly episode.

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Speaker 2: Have takes.

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Speaker 3: You gotta have hot takes, and my hot take is

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that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids. I can't wait

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to take it out our boy balto here. Oh well,

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I've seen the movie once a million.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, the ninety five classic. Yeah, it's a real dog.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And that's what we're talking about today. So in

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January of nineteen twenty five, doctors in Noam, Alaska, we're

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gearing up for a deadly diphtheria bacteria outbreak amongst the

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gold rush town and the fourteen hundred residents that were

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now placed under quarantine. The serum supply to treat this

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infection was both running low in the area and a

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few years past expiration about six years.

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Speaker 3: Right, so the not good doesn't really work, no loses

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its effectiveness, might just be poison now.

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Speaker 1: Dip theory at this time killed about twenty thousand people

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a year, and without the medication, the mortality rates were

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estimated to be around seventy five to ninety percent of

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the town. Good lord would just totally obviously decimate the population.

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Doctor Curtis Welsh hit up Anchorage via Morse Code and

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a desperate plea for more medication. One big problem, however,

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to travel the land was one hundred and fifty miles

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from Anchorage by air. It was still five hundred and

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thirty nine miles.

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Speaker 2: You know plane in the twenties, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Sketchy, It was nineteen twenty five. The two planes available

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for the journey traveled the speed of smell, had never

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flown in the winter and were open air cockpits. Yeah,

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in an Alaska january where it averaged negative twenty three

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degrees on the ground just a little bit of frostbite. Yeah,

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oh yeah, and there was a blizzard. Yeah, gonna cut it. So,

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with options limited to try to save the sickly remote settlement,

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including his eight year old daughter, Sigared that lived there,

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mister Leonard Sapala, the town owner, and his mining company officials,

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decided to transport the twenty pounds of seerum by train

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to town and then it would be in the hands

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of multiple dogs led teams over the seward to Gnome Trail,

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which is now can you guess.

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Speaker 2: It, the add rod? Yep, yep. So this is what

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created the race. Sweet.

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Speaker 3: I think that we should do the adda rod like

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people do the Kentucky Derby, just lined with people in

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seersucker suits getting fucked up on whatever. The Alaskan equivalent

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of mint julip is keep the seersucker though, I don't

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care if it's winner and just getting blackout drunk breathable. Yeah,

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well that might be a little too breathable.

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about rally races at this point. Yeah, just all these

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine how sick of an individual you'd have

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I got twenty grand on this year, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guarantee multiple bet insides have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can bet on it somewhere. You can bet

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on anything. Maybe there's actually.

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Speaker 3: Some maybe there's some action there, Like how much does

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Vegas really know about the sure?

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Speaker 2: We could probably pay someone offund probably get some inside horses.

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Oh yeah, shoot a dog, just put it down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just be like Tuscan raiders up in the fucking mountains.

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Speaker 2: Do we have to do the huh? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh obviously, Okay, don't even have to shoot the dog,

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just shoot the ice underneath.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A total relay now would be six hundred and seventy

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four miles and would consist of twenty different mushers, which

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are the people that you know, Yeah, man, the dog.

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Speaker 2: Sledge that just stand there and do nothing.

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Speaker 1: Dog whippers, Yeah, dog whippers mushers, Yeah, I like dog

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whipper Starting on January twenty seventh, with an estimated or

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February sixth, so Paula himself was a seasoned dog sled

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trainer and breeder who would take part in one of

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the most challenging parts of the relay, a risky shortcut

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across Norton Sound that would save a day of travel

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so across ice. The ice on Norton Sound was in

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constant motion due to the current of the seas, and

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consisted of tough terrain of hills and sheets of ice

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where dogs had difficulty get in.

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Speaker 2: A foothold. Doesn't sound like a shortcut. Check it out.

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Speaker 3: I guess like, if everything goes perfect, it's a shortcut.

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If something goes bad, everyone dies.

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Speaker 2: We drought. Yeah, it save today.

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Speaker 3: It just feels like it's already gonna take a week.

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Speaker 1: Tons past types of syesh, one wrong step or bad

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break with a crack would result in the dog and

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he caught the attention of nation wide news coverage because

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there's nothing else going on in the twenties.

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Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, is that isn't there's another dogs sledging movie

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from the nineties it like White Fang or something, or

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is this the movie where isn't Kevin Spacey He's in

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one of those movies where he plays like a reporter

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and he's like on a train like Balto made it

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another one hundred miles.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it. You guys ever see these movies? No, No,

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I probably wasn't born when they came out. That's fair

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and Dan was zero. Yeah, I do apologize. Oh Balto

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is the cartoon? Yeah this is this was a live

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action one, okay, yeah, yeah, I think it was white.

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We did really have a fascination with dog sled teams

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during like the early two thousands. Like I remember learning

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about this in elementary school. Dog movies rule, Like we

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took time out of school to learn how to read

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instead to learn about huskies running one hundred miles in

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a row. It's it's a little crazy that that happened

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in elementary school. Ah, iron Will Iron Will is the

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name of that dog sledding movie. I'm glad we figured

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that out. Yes, it's a good pause for that, Thank

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you relief.

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Speaker 1: Near's no dog teams in race with Death in Fall North.

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It was starting to become known as the Great Race

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of Mercy.

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Speaker 3: Trying to take my shit. Do an old timy voice,

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trying to take my ship.

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Speaker 2: You have just a total stranglehold on the voice. It's

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not even your thing trying to take it. It's my

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thing here, all right? You want to do it? Dog

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teams racing with death and fall and off there you go. Yeah, yeah,

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that's right. You feel better, Yeah, feel a lot better.

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I do wish that accent never went away. I wish

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we still had broadcasters today. Accent. Yeah, yeah, someone downtown

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Chicago's he's fall Slaine.

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Speaker 3: That would be you know, they do like baseball broadcasts

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now that are special in certain ways, Like the Braves

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do one once a year where it's it's all ex players.

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It's like Chipper and Tom Glavin and and like Brian mccannon,

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Like they need to do one where a guy who

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can do a sweitet just get hankers are in there

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doing a mid Atlantic accent that the entire fucking time.

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Speaker 2: Just feel like we're back in nineteen seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, horrible camera angles the whole thing. They gotta wear

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the wool you need to. Oh yeah, yeah, well they

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do well, they do like fake wool.

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Speaker 2: When they do like the no, I want to see

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people pass out. Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: As a momentum built, additional state dog teams were recruited

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by Governor Scott Cordell Bone to aid the Sapala groups.

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Speaker 2: Ironic last name Bone because they're gonna die.

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Speaker 1: Gotta give a dog a dog, Gotta give a dog

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a bone.

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Speaker 2: Did yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The last leg of the relay would prove to be

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some of the toughest trek. It would be driven by

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Norwegian native good friend of Sepala and twenty one year

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dogs led veteran Gunner Cassen.

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Speaker 3: Gunner's a great name and a very unlikely good boy.

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Obalto didn't run the whole thing, bitch, he didn't.

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Speaker 2: None of the dogs did.

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Speaker 1: Pathetic enter Balto a small, stocky Siberia and husky with

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a black coat that Sapala didn't think much of.

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Speaker 2: So we got a Rudolph situation. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Rudolph wasn't written yet. This is the source

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of Rudolph most likely kind of be if you think

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about it, it.

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Speaker 2: Really might be. He was often referred to as a

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scrub or second rate pup. Oh true underdog situation.

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Speaker 1: Balto was the runts of the litter who was neutered

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at an early age to prevent his genetics and lineage

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from moving on.

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Speaker 3: Good Lord, So they neuted him back when they didn't

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neuter dogs. They just saw him and they were.

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Speaker 2: Like, cut his balls off. They're like, we don't need

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another bateau.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want this one accidentally sliding anything in

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while the man dogs are working.

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Speaker 2: You're like, all he needed was some more tea. You know,

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they just stopped him early. Maybe he could have, you know,

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could have been just as big as the other guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rudolph, by the way, that was cut from the

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song that's Santa cut off his nutsack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They had to castrate him early.

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Speaker 3: As soon as they saw that red nose, they were like,

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we are keeping this bloodline pure.

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Speaker 2: They thought it was gone rhea, So I mean fair

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on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a antrocity, Yeah, burn out with fire.

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Speaker 3: Santo was trying to cure red nose Reindeers the way

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Iceland tries to cure fucking down down syndrome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just get it out of it. Third reich Ish. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This Siberian rat their name for Balto, not mine, was

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relegated to haul and freight in large cargo for short

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runs that were not time sensitive. Gunner cast In, for

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whatever reason, was enamored with this dog. Against the Paula's wishes,

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Gunner not only took Balto on his leg of the relay,

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but had him co lead thirteen good boys with another

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dog named Fox.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he is Fox probably did the heavy lifting.

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Speaker 2: He is frewed off. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He was handed the Seerum package at ten pm on

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February first in the outpost of Bluff and Gunner and

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Balto and the boys were off traveling through winds so

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harsh their sled flipped over multiple times, almost losing the

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package in the process, which, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Not high off the ground. Right, It's not like an

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eighteen wheeler getting tilted over by fucking wind.

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Speaker 2: That's how harsh the storm was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like a fucking foot off the ground at.

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Speaker 2: One point too.

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Speaker 1: The Seerum just like falls off and he has to

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like dig through the snow to try to find it.

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Speaker 2: Ooh.

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Speaker 1: Still, they reached their destination to Port Safety ahead of

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schedule thanks to Gunner's belief in Balto paying off. What

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did Balto do well? His strength built up from pulling

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heavy freight over the years was critical on this trip,

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and at one point, Balto stopped the sled from going

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over a patch of ice on the top Cock River

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that broke underneath, saving the entire team's lives.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is like you know the story of

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Hank Aaron. They were like, how'd your risk get so

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fucking strong? Like what's your workout regimen? And he was like,

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I grew up having to haul ice blocks with my dad.

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And the way they like he was like an ice

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delivery man. They would deliver blocks of ice to the

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house and they had to do it with these like tongs,

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these like huge tongs, and he would just have to,

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as a kid, take these tongs, pick up these blocks

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of ice that are fucking huge, and like take them

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from truck to door all day.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna build up the forearms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Balto's entire life was a training montage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Up to this, he's rocky punching meat. This is

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the definition of hard work beats talent when talent doesn't

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work hard. Yeah, you just gotta put more time in

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the gym, get more reps in. All those will be

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on the starting line, all those other sexy huskies, you

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know what I mean. He was he was four or five.

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You know, he wasn't getting a lot of play time.

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But he put in the hours in the gym, got

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some strong legs, and now we can dunk his real

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gym rap.

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Speaker 1: Now, technically he wasn't supposed to be the last leg

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of this relay. The guy that was was still asleep.

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The dog, oh, the guy, the guy and the next

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group of dogs.

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Speaker 2: He was just still asleep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so being there still a sleep like they were like, hey, man,

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wake up. The whole town's gonna die at disease. And

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he's like ten more minutes.

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Speaker 2: At a hard night lost.

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Speaker 1: So Gunner and balto go through this tire blizzard. So

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the next guy, whatever his name is, I didn't look

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it up, but I adn't care too because he overslept. Yeah,

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so you don't get to be remembered through history.

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Speaker 3: We keep him dead in Cocoa land. We don't know

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his name.

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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, it's all because he overslept.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't think Gunner and Balto and that whole

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group was gonna make it through the blizzard.

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Speaker 3: You just like got drunk and slept in and he's

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just like, eh, it's just it's a bad storm.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna die. Fuck it, I'm sleeping. Yeah, that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: So, knowing the situation was dire wasting time could cost lives,

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Gunner pushed on the remaining twenty five miles of the

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trip and reached Nome at five thirty am on February

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Tecod getting the frozen but intact serum to doctor Curtis Welsh.

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In total, Gunner and Balto traveled fifty four point three

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miles that night through intense winds and snowfall. Gunner suffered

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frostbite and four of the dogs were partially frozen, but

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were eventually able to recover with the seerm in hand.

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No more deaths from the outbreak were reported, and in total,

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seven people died before they got there, not including natives

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who were not accounted for and totally at risk from

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the white Man's disease.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, but they're natives, so you know, they't count.

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They don't fully get Yeah, can't. We can't use white

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America's taught us this lesson multiple times in history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't use white math to count if people

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that's true.

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Speaker 1: Gunner talked to the United Breass about Balto, and he

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became an overnight celebrity in National Darling newspaper seemingly gave

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credit of the one hundred and fifty dogs and eighteen

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other mushers who participated in this life saving expedition exclusively

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to Gunner and Balto. Radio coverage reported Balto accomplished the

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entire six hundred and seventy four mile run by himself.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so you're telling me Balto is a fraud.

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It's not his fault. I mean, he didn't say anything,

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but he also he didn't denied the claims. Yeah, so

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he's just as much fault as the people wrote the

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absolute stolen valor. Yeah, that's why I'm hearing right now.

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He finished the job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, he just sounds like, you know,

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like the closer is not the best picture on your team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when that footage rolls, he's the one that

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throws the glove up.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, last three outs are the toughest to get,

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that's true. What's more impressive six outs or six innings

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in a row or twelve pitches at one oh six

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chickstick the heater.

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Speaker 1: The New York Daily News even published photos of Gunner's

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arrival and nome, with Balto leading the charge. The photos were,

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of course, staged.

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Speaker 2: Much later than their arrival in the town.

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Speaker 3: Gonna say, I can't imagine there was a photographer there

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at five thirty in the morning in a blizzard.

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Speaker 2: Was there even a camera there?

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Speaker 1: It's a gold rush town, I guess, yeah, you gotta

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take photos of people discovering gold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Film producers immediately signed and Balto to a two motion

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picture deal.

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Speaker 2: We gotta make you a big sigh. By the way, shit.

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Speaker 3: Don't change, right, you do like one thing. They're just

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hawked to it their way into fame.

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Speaker 2: They didn't create a pump and dumb coin though, No

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they didn't. But like it. They actually did something. You

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didn't just show up at a place at a certain

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time and become famous, so a little bit more respect.

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Speaker 1: They began filming in La by April that very same year,

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starring Balto and the Guy. I like, man, you should

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have tried to be famous when.

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Speaker 2: There were no movie stars.

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Speaker 3: They're just still like who could be a movie star anyone?

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Speaker 1: It was silent films. Yeah, when was the Jazz Singer

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around that time? It was like twenty eight, twenty nine

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r yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean literally just

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show up. You don't have your voice act Yeah, So

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Jazz Singer was nineteen twenty seven, So that same year.

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Speaker 3: A lot of silent film actors lost for October, lost

470
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their careers when it went into speaking film because their

471
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voices were stupid, and a lot of radio actors lost

472
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their jobs to television because they were foul looking like

473
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their voices were great, like it sounded wonderful, like no Superman,

474
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but like you see the guy and you're.

475
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, is that where that saying comes from? A

476
00:22:21,279 --> 00:22:21,960
boys for radio?

477
00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, for a face for radio, Yeah yeah yeah.

478
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Upon his arrival to La Balto was given the bone

479
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of the city by the mayor.

480
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Speaker 2: Good boy, a little stereotypical, little racist.

481
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 1: The movies received positive reviews but are now lost films.

482
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After Gunner sued producer Sol Lesser for unpaid wages. Lesser

483
00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:45,920
in the process just unloaded their contracts off to someone else,

484
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and Gunner and Balto had to do a national speaking

485
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circuit in order to be paid.

486
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Speaker 3: For who for the people who sold their contracts to

487
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They're like, so all that work you did at the

488
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contract before you to do new work to get that money.

489
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Don't you love deal? Yeah?

490
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like there's not one lawyer that can get in

491
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,759
there and be like and fuck up, fuck that guy up.

492
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: No, he was still under contract, uh for Sapala.

493
00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 2: Oh is that the name of the company too, The

494
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,160
guy's name, the guy's name that owns the company in

495
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960
that city, owns this town.

496
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Speaker 3: So now he's just a wall from work with their

497
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best dog.

498
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Speaker 2: He's just gonna do what he tells me to do.

499
00:23:23,519 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because he dog training dog sled Like that's

500
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still business is going on, just because this this one operation.

501
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,279
Speaker 2: Oh you're usual, mister famous. Can't sled through a blizzard anymore.

502
00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: No, he's allowed to though, because he's he's a green

503
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to selling that contract to the national to. A statue

504
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of Balto was erected in New York's Central Park in

505
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December of nineteen twenty five by sculptor Frederick Roff, and

506
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he made an appearance at Madison Square Garden in front

507
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of an audience of twenty thousand fans.

508
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Speaker 2: Twenty thousand people showed up to see Balto He sell

509
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out MSG he them think thank God for YouTube.

510
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: Like ten years prior to this, they were going to

511
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see people walk.

512
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:09,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but you've seen the dog gamble on that, right,

513
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:13,279
I mean I would do that. Conk. Wasn't that like

514
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,640
multiple days too? It was like sleeping in an entire week. Yeah, God,

515
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,279
you wouldn't show up for a celebrity dog. No, what

516
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,160
if Airbud was real, I'd go see Airbud.

517
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Speaker 3: I'd see Airbud play. I guess I wouldn't go to

518
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a speaking engagement in which I might get to see

519
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,039
Airbud walk on stage.

520
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Speaker 2: I don't know, gonna ask him the hard question if

521
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,240
he was draining threes, I might think about it, just

522
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,559
to see him in person, you know, just at all. Yeah,

523
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,359
I mean it's kind of like a Kobe situation. You know,

524
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,559
you just want to be like, all right, I had

525
00:24:41,599 --> 00:24:43,240
that home where I saw the legend in person.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I would watch him hit threes too.

527
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,759
Just did you watch air bud Man.

528
00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:49,759
Speaker 2: I mean every single sport he played, he was brilliant,

529
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,200
like he was. He's one of the best athletes. Yeah,

530
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,519
one hundred go conversation easily.

531
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Speaker 3: I think golden receiver is probably the most impressive one,

532
00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:59,240
just catching.

533
00:24:59,039 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: That out of the air at mouth. Yeah, taking the hits. Yeah,

534
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,559
I think he could go across the middle.

535
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,519
Speaker 2: Also, that one makes the most logical sense though, because

536
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,000
essentially it's just fetch, you know.

537
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and of course, like no cornerback on Earth

538
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:13,640
in pee wee football is covering a golden.

539
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:17,079
Speaker 2: I don't know, man our boy Coop White cornerback might

540
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,039
get it. They Cooper dejen get A.

541
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Speaker 1: They actually put a bounty gate on air Bud Yeah,

542
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,680
take out it. That's kind of what ended his career.

543
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:28,359
It's a darker, darker movie than you originally think.

544
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, there's two Achilles tears at the same time. Yeah,

545
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:31,759
it's tough.

546
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Speaker 3: They went head hunting on a dog played on field turf,

547
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,799
just fucked up his three knees, three of his four

548
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:40,720
knees just dead.

549
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,319
Speaker 1: So at first, so Paula found it quite amusing that

550
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,599
Gunner and balto H were these kind of international celebrities,

551
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,200
but felt his lead dog, Dorn the longest and most

552
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,559
dangerous part of the trip.

553
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,079
Speaker 2: Togo deserved way more credit, so he tried to make

554
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,240
Tog happen. He tried to make Yeah, so he made

555
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,160
a sandwich shop. Right.

556
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: So Paul and Togo went on their own tour in

557
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,039
nineteen twenty six, including another ice expedition at Madison Square Garden.

558
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:15,839
Speaker 2: Who shows her to that? Come see the other dog? Yeah,

559
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,720
I'm feeling like the MSG promoter just needed to fill Yeah,

560
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,599
I mean, did the Knicks exist yet? For the amount

561
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,359
of respect that we put on MSG, you could just

562
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,400
book it. Just book it. You can just show up. Yeah?

563
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, did the I mean, how many games where the

564
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,440
Rangers playing here at this point? Were you e an ANMSG?

565
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:31,799
Speaker 2: Probably not? Yeah?

566
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:33,079
Speaker 3: I think they existed, but I don't know if they're

567
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:33,720
playing an MSG.

568
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: He also had resemment for Balto with each passing day,

569
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:42,480
to the point he just outright sells the dog because

570
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,319
he's technically he doesn't Paulo's property doesn't belong to gunner U.

571
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

572
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,599
Speaker 1: So he sells it to this man named Sam Houston,

573
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,720
who has his own traveling circus and dime museum in lad.

574
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,759
Speaker 2: Man will become jealous of anything. Fucking your husky gets

575
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:00,480
more credit than you, so you gotta held off.

576
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,599
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm tired of Gunner getting the credit I should.

577
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,559
And I'm tired of Balto getting Togos.

578
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: Shine because he got he ran some of the race too.

579
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hardest part, the shortcut. And he but again,

580
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,799
it's his company, it's his town. He saved his town.

581
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,839
He's like, yeah, but I want the credit.

582
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: It's the capstone theory. If you put the last stone on,

583
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,599
you made the whole entire monument. Yeah.

584
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:28,319
Speaker 1: So, with Casson still under Sepala's employment, he was ordered

585
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,759
back to Alaska, where he faced resentment and alienation from

586
00:27:31,799 --> 00:27:34,440
the locals over his recognition and fame.

587
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:39,559
Speaker 2: Well that'll happen, saves the day. Comes in with the serum, oh,

588
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,640
how you missed your Hollywood big old Hollywood boy came

589
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,119
back to town.

590
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,079
Speaker 3: I think you're a big man saving our lives being

591
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,000
in them motion picture picture show.

592
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that exist. I ain't seen one. There's

593
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,680
the way there's a movie theater in this town.

594
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: No, no movies are new. There's probably yeah, they might

595
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,839
not understand the concept of it.

596
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,319
Speaker 2: Entertainment is probably still a brothel at this point in time.

597
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like literally, like one dance and then you just

598
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,279
go upstairs, then.

599
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: You go to work. Yeah.

600
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Gunner also allegedly never spoke to Sepaula again over the

601
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sale of Balto.

602
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah that seems fair. Yeah, he sold his dog out

603
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160
of jealousy. I can't I can't blame the man. Yeah,

604
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:24,920
could you imagine that.

605
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,039
Speaker 3: I know of a divorce that happened where the woman

606
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,240
fought to get the dog and then sold the dog.

607
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: That's evil. Yeah, it's fucked. You take a man's dog

608
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:38,119
from him, like, that's principled. Stand shit. As soon as

609
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,000
she did that, he should have went right back to court,

610
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440
right and be like, look, how delicious this is fine?

611
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 3: They were like yeah, but they're like, Sarah, you punched

612
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,839
her while cheating on her. It's she can can do

613
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,480
whatever she wants.

614
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,279
Speaker 2: Is that what happened?

615
00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:51,359
Speaker 1: No?

616
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no no no, she's just mean and did that.

617
00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,480
But that'd be a funny thing to happen, beating your

618
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,640
wife while cheating on her.

619
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Is that funny?

620
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:01,119
Speaker 3: No?

621
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: I don't know's that's where your heads at today? Rob?

622
00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:07,920
How you doing? Man? I don't know I don't know.

623
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,480
We need to put out like welfire, Chuck.

624
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's funny is that'll be a less controversial line

625
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,119
than Egyptians built the pyramids.

626
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,039
Speaker 2: You're not wrong.

627
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might be wrong telepathic giants about the pyramids.

628
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,519
But Balto and six of his teammates from the Sierum

629
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,359
run we're now on tour for Sam Houston. So he

630
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,640
didn't just sell Balta. We sold half the sled teams.

631
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: Good, good financial investment. Probably the dogs are gonna get old, right?

632
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,359
What is game shape for a dog on the I

633
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,799
mean that's like, that's like playing in the EPL or something.

634
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:45,519
Speaker 2: You're washed by thirty? Sure?

635
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: But what are traveling circuses and kind of freak shows

636
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,680
of this time known for?

637
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: This would be like the tail end of Buffalo Bill,

638
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,400
so they would put on like essentially demonstrations.

639
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:00,319
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, what are they in the tour? Bously

640
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,440
known for freaks prea chos fires, bad living conditions? Perhaps?

641
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:05,039
Oh that too?

642
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they treat you know, not people the best? Yeah,

643
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,960
topsy dogs. Yeah yeah, because a dog won't even stomp

644
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,480
you to death.

645
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:19,079
Speaker 2: Are you guys telling me? Carnies in the nineteen twenties.

646
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,200
We're kind of piece of shit people. I'm here to

647
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,799
tell you exactly that. Yeah, never would I guess that

648
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,960
they weren't sending their best.

649
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:33,039
Speaker 3: You know what, balto accomplished sounds pretty magical, It sure does, Rob,

650
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,759
and I in my own life want to accomplish magical things,

651
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:42,720
and to do that, I use magic Mind. Right now,

652
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,480
if you go to magicmind dot com slash softcore history

653
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and use the code Softcore twenty, you'll get up to

654
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forty eight percent off your first subscription for the next

655
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ten days, or twenty percent off for a one time purchase.

656
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Now what is magic Mind. It's a little shot I

657
00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:01,680
take every morning that helps me with a lot of things,

658
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:06,720
mental clarity, but most of all, energy and burnout and focus.

659
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,079
That is what magic mind is all about.

660
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: Are you telling me it's going to give you a

661
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:13,400
balto energy?

662
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:15,799
Speaker 3: It gives you big balto energy. Yeah, it gives you

663
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,359
the type of energy you need to go through a

664
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,319
blue do. It's not like an energy drink or anything

665
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,400
like that. What it does is it helps you keep

666
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,400
your energy throughout the day. It's not like some quick

667
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,079
up or downer situation like you get with a lot

668
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,920
of energy drinks. What magic mind does, along with helping

669
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,799
you focus and keeping your mind sharp, is it helps

670
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240
keep your energy at a level you want it to be.

671
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,200
So like say, when you have coffee in the morning,

672
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,160
there's no caffeine crash from it. You just keep on

673
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,039
that level. That's what magic mind is all about, and

674
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,359
that is why I love it so much. It helps

675
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:54,960
build mental wealth, not mental health, mental wealth without overpromising.

676
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,240
It enhances focus and as part of a bigger strategy

677
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,599
to help you make your clearer and more effective.

678
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: Now, I think we should put this to the test. Right,

679
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880
I'll be on a dog sled and you'll pull it.

680
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:10,039
We'll have you take a bunch of magic mind and

681
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,000
we'll see if we can go that fifty four miles

682
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:12,680
through a blizzard.

683
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

684
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've scientifically scientifically tested it to

685
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:16,279
do that, but I'm down.

686
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: Okay. I have that much faith in magic mind because

687
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,200
in Alaska in January, I think we got this. It is.

688
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:26,319
Speaker 3: It has changed my uh my daily energy wise.

689
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so screw it.

690
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: I'll slam a magic mind every morning.

691
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Like I already do. I'll bring a gun in case

692
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,240
of feils. Yeah, in case I don't do it right.

693
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,720
That's I'll put you down. That's fair enough. But I

694
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:36,759
have faith. That's how much faith.

695
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: I have a magic mind, and I agree to this.

696
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,039
I will run the Adita Rod, no questions asked. Yeah,

697
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,200
I take the shot every morning. It's awesome. I take

698
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:49,720
it like before after I have breakfast. I've been using

699
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:52,119
it for like a month or two now. It really

700
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,400
has like changed the game for especially like I have ADHD,

701
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,000
so I will always have focused problems, always have energy problems.

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Speaker 1: Jack Wooldridge of the Oakland Tribune actually a little Oakland, Yeah, yeah,

796
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what's up? Wrote about the mistreatment. There probably was never

797
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a more dejected, sorrowful looking lot of mutts than these

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as they now appear. Balto will never see the snow again.

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He's simply an exhibit in a museum.

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Speaker 2: You know that sounds like a bleeding heart liberal to me. Yeah,

801
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that dog is better off.

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Speaker 1: How about the take of a Cleveland businessman who certainly

803
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is not a liberal?

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Speaker 2: You very fair.

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Speaker 1: George Kimball visited the Dime Museum while in Los Angeles

806
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after noticing his sign outside advertising Balto the Wonder Dog.

807
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Outraged at seeing Baltow in his teammates living conditions and

808
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poor health. Kimball offered to buy the dogs from Sam Houston,

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who was willing to sell, but at a price. Yeah,

810
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about two grand.

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Speaker 2: Those sales are at a price two grand, two.

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Speaker 1: Grand, which is the equivalent of about thirty six grand. Now, okay,

813
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,639
Jesus more than could personally afford. Yeah, he wasn't liquid

814
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like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no's yeah, he's like, what about Jeff Balto.

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Speaker 2: It's a high price for a dog.

817
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Speaker 3: And then you, because you don't care about these dogs,

818
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paint want paint? Just you take lead paint and paint

819
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one of the other dogs black.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Give you one hundred dollars. No one

821
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would know? Yeah, no one would, no one, No one

822
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will know.

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Speaker 1: Kimball reached out to area businessmen and elected officials and

824
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,920
assembled the Cleveland Balto Committee, which negotiated with Houston. After

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Houston finally agreed to sell the dogs for fifteen hundred dollars,

826
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a fundraising campaign was formally announced March first, nineteen twenty seven.

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Donations came in all throughout the city, with Cleveland school

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children even dropping in loose change and their buckets, offering

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up their milk money. Bank employees, offices and nonprofit institutions

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all made donations and the goal was smashed.

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Speaker 2: You know, I do want to insert this because we've

832
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been talking about dogs the whole entire episode. No one

833
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,440
is starting a community fundraiser for any fucking cats. You know,

834
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,000
they're like people who claim their great pets. I just

835
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don't trust you, because I mean people, literally, this is

836
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,400
we're lining up into the Great Depression period, right, twenty seven,

837
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,880
we're kind of getting into that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people are you know they're not twenty still.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's actually peak liquidity. Oh this is people. Well,

840
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then I take back everything I said. People would say

841
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,320
have a cat as well, and uh, yeah, my bad.

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I want a cat. I like cats. I'm just like, incredibly,

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I don't trust cat people. Man. It's a thing that

844
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lives in your house that actively only wants you for food.

845
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You don't have to take care of it. Dogs want.

846
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Dogs want that too, at least the common life. They'll

847
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love you a little bit. You know, there's there's something

848
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:46,320
back there in return. Dogs are way better. Yeah, arguing

849
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
for cats over dogs, all right, but I'm saying there's

850
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some place for both. Would you mean? Yeah, barn cats?

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Barncats are sick taking out vermin and yeah, yeah, eviscerating mice. Yeah,

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because that's what they're great for, is killing shit. Yeah,

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they're killing machines essentially. Isn't that that whole thing? Like

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the house cats kill most pests a year, like birds

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and other small game.

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Speaker 3: I don't consider a bird a pest though, Like if

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I found a dead sparrow on like ripped open on

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my back porch, I would be.

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Speaker 2: Like, why yeah, but the cat considered it a pest. Yeah,

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so it had to die. The cat was bothered by it.

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Speaker 1: Again, the bigger they get, though, I feel like cats

862
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overtake dogs, so like a big cat is better than

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a big dog.

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Speaker 2: How big? Were talking like a Bengal kiddy talking about

865
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a fight. Want a coke tiger? Yeah yeah, I'm talking

866
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like a predator okay, a jaguar? Yeah okay. Yeah. Man,

867
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if you put a cheetah in a cage in your backyard,

868
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that's pretty dope. But I would still want a Golden

869
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,639
Retriever over that. A cheetah would.

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Speaker 3: Actually be chill because they're too timid to do anything. Yeah,

871
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and they're actually kind of like I feel like a

872
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human could take a cheetah.

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Speaker 2: But if you had a well trained panther that just

874
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sat like slept on your bed. It just stalked you constantly. Yeah,

875
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in the night, just saw the glowing eyes at you.

876
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You just kind of like, what the That's the thing

877
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:05,639
with cats, It'll never defend you because it's not your friend.

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It's just there until you stop feeding it.

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Speaker 1: Well, instead of a junkyard dog, what if you just

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had a bunch of benkal.

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Speaker 2: Tigers' terrifying You're not You're not wrong, Yeah, definitely, I mean, look,

882
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,639
but the tigers will also eat you. That's the problem. Yeah.

883
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 3: The only thing you can count for sure on a

884
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,639
pit bull to them all is a toddler. Like someone

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could break into the junk yard and the pipule might

886
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be like, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's mortal enemy is toddlers. Toddler's. Yeah, yeah, it's

888
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,480
really scared.

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00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: It's a very one sided rivalry, but it is still

890
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:35,960
a rivalry.

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00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Pi bulls are putting up numbers on top. It's because

892
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,559
they look eye to eye with each other and they

893
00:41:40,639 --> 00:41:43,440
just don't like that. They doubt and Toddler's just don't

894
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,760
have that dog in them. They don't. They can sniff

895
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,079
it out. They know, so pitbull over toddler every single time.

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I mean, yeah, you're not gonna get good odds. I

897
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,000
also have a little uh. I've noticed a rivalry with

898
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,920
pit bulls and skateboards. They don't like them, hate them,

899
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:03,960
whereas English bulldogs big fans, they'll ride them. Yeah right right,

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some of the best beadles of the internet. Man, they

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back when.

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Speaker 3: Our old dog, our older dog Leo was more was

903
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,320
younger and more robust. He fucking hated skateboards, to the

904
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,480
point where if I was walking him and there was

905
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:17,960
a skateboarder across the street, I would have to like

906
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,159
put the leash as short as possible because he would run.

907
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,960
I try to run across the street. No, no worry

908
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,360
about any like cars coming at him or anything like that.

909
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,719
Just wanted to get right at that fucking skateboard.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a white man.

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00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: In the nineties, Balto in his sixteen mates Alaska, Slim Fox,

912
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:45,119
Tilly Billy, Old Moc talk INSI were transported by train

913
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:49,199
from Los Angeles to Cleveland. The dogs were escorted to

914
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,159
a temporary quarters in the Brookside Zoo. A grand parade

915
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,960
took place at the Public Square on March nineteenth, nineteen

916
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,760
twenty seven, which the city designated Balto Day. I like

917
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840
that after the Breid, the dogs were all transported to

918
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,239
a more permanent structure at the zoo. Balto and his

919
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,880
teammates made their formal debut at the Brookside Zoo on

920
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,159
March twentieth, nineteen twenty seven, with estimates.

921
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: Of up to fifteen thousand people visiting that day.

922
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's just nothing to do back then, just

923
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:21,159
nothing to do.

924
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:26,159
Speaker 2: Gotta find something to fill your time, Like truly, I

925
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,079
there was a a hero dog team.

926
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: There was an article in some might've been in the Atlantic,

927
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,760
but it was just my favorite, one of my favorite

928
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,719
takes I've ever seen, which was just it was like,

929
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930
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931
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:45,119
session span stuff like that, but they were like, the

932
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,800
article is basically like, I think you forgot how bored

933
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,519
you used to be so much of the time, because

934
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:55,159
what happened was you weren't filling that time with other

935
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,800
things like if you're sitting at the airport or anything

936
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,039
like that. They're like, there's so much downtime, Like in

937
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:05,599
a waiting room or something that was just brutal.

938
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're reading the shitty magazines that they had out.

939
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, just abysmal fucking And I remembered it as a kid.

940
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,039
Speaker 1: Like you're talking about the process of everything was much longer.

941
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,559
You make like a homemade meal, thanks you all day.

942
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the amount of just horrible nothingness that is

943
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719
self like, look it it's we've we use it too much,

944
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:31,599
but it has killed a lot of good boredom, a

945
00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,960
lot of like useless boredom where you just had to

946
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,400
sit there with your thumb up your ass getting just

947
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:39,360
having like time wither you away.

948
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: I just waited and waited.

949
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:43,599
Speaker 1: Agree, that's a fucking soft hand stick right there, if

950
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,599
I've ever heard one. Probably you know, put in hours

951
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:49,280
and hours and hours into a trade, you're getting better.

952
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that.

953
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: I'm talking about all the time that you spend many

954
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,400
many days just doing nothing because you have to do

955
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:00,320
nothing because you have to wait for some some thing.

956
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: Or you take the fucking world by the balls and

957
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,760
you get out there and you make what you want.

958
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:10,159
Speaker 3: I mean, make what you want. You go fucking scream

959
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:11,199
at the doctor to see you.

960
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: Now, you know, I The only thing I disagree with

961
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,039
this take is brain rot better than nothing. No, nothing,

962
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,480
silent is better than skibbity fucking toilet or whatever that

963
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,639
box on TikTok. Nowadays, here's the thing, and I don't disagree.

964
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,159
Speaker 3: It's swung too far. It swung too far, but it

965
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,440
was you for you forget how deafening the silence was.

966
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,559
Speaker 2: Oh no, I remember being bored. I'm sitting, you know,

967
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,159
inside your your room, and your parents grounded you, and

968
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,280
everything's taken away and you're just looking at a wall

969
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,920
for oh my god, like bored. People are bored.

970
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,519
Speaker 1: So my parents always told me, and that I think

971
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:53,880
rings true. In that time to read a book, you

972
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,559
could have hung out with your boys, you know, maybe

973
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,519
practice some shooting against Marcherie.

974
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you is, I'm not talking about it

975
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,920
Tuesday afternoon where you're on your phone instead of hanging

976
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,639
out with your friends.

977
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,079
Speaker 2: I'm talking about shit where you just have to eat

978
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:11,519
the boredom, like literally, when you're just sitting there trying

979
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:12,039
to fill time.

980
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's nice to appreciate the poop coming out. Okay, contrarian,

981
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,239
it's not a contrarian take. It's just it was a

982
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,800
nicer time.

983
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: I like to fill that time with at least feeling

984
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,639
somewhat you know, productive.

985
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,119
Speaker 3: Fucking, pooping, fucking again.

986
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,639
Speaker 1: Wait, that's how you reach full zen is you just

987
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,719
live in the moment.

988
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: So you're at the DMV and you just want to

989
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,280
live in the mom You don't have to be at

990
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,239
the DMV. It doesn't exist at this point. Well, I

991
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,239
don't have to because I have to get a Texas license.

992
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,320
I've been waiting for like two and a half months.

993
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,719
I'm saying, it's nineteen twenty five. Man, you're not going

994
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,039
to the DMV. That's fair. That probably doesn't make it.

995
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:45,280
You probably can't have torn a car.

996
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you can afford. They were quite affordable. It

997
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,400
was still more expensive than anything. Yes, in today's money,

998
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,199
very low.

999
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. Six hundred dollars or four hundred dollars.

1000
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,239
But it was the Model T. The whole point of

1001
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,480
the Model T was that everyone could buy a car.

1002
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: So there's another thing you could do then if you

1003
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,400
had a car, drink and drive. It's a great time.

1004
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: It's always a good time.

1005
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: It's fun now, but back then it's really more fun

1006
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,239
then really shitty dirt roads, no suspension like zero cars.

1007
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: Also, no, there is not zero consequences. My favorite thing

1008
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,840
about going like ten miles an hour. My favorite One of.

1009
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 3: My favorite things about history that people forget or don't

1010
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,360
know is that car windshields and windows.

1011
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: Used to just be real glass. Not Yeah, car accidents

1012
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:33,480
from the.

1013
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:38,559
Speaker 3: Early days, we're fucking gnarly. It's like if you hit something,

1014
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,159
knives exploded at you. That's pretty metal though, that is,

1015
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,719
it's metal for sure, Like it really gives, like you

1016
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,000
have to hit this turn correctly because if you don't,

1017
00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:49,679
your family, your family's knife.

1018
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,199
Speaker 2: It's like instead of an air bag, it was a

1019
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,760
knife bag. Yeah, all right, here's another counterpoint.

1020
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: You're way more social. You're forced to. You have to

1021
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,639
go out, maybe go to the market, catchup. Some people

1022
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,360
check it out.

1023
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,199
Speaker 3: You're joining social clubs when I was, and again i'm

1024
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:08,199
talking about specific maybe you're in a gang when in

1025
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,119
specific times.

1026
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:10,519
Speaker 2: A boredom is what I'm talking about.

1027
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: If I'm in a doctor's office, if I'm in the

1028
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,400
airport back in those days.

1029
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: I still don't want a stranger to fucking bother me.

1030
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:20,639
What are you doing?

1031
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: Like if it's like a cute girl or something, sure,

1032
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
but like a random person just talking to me, leave

1033
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,880
me the fuck alone.

1034
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: Small talk. Everyone hates small talks a lot about you.

1035
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,079
Everyone hates it. I can't imagine anyone hates it more

1036
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:35,280
than you.

1037
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: We've learned a lot about Rob today. He hates dogs,

1038
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:40,519
hero dogs like Balto.

1039
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like he stole a lot of valor

1040
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,840
and he hates just general people. I will say, I

1041
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,840
remember the terror in my parents the couple of times

1042
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,920
that we flew as children and they would have to

1043
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,239
like make sure we had enough stuff to do, like

1044
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,039
that's coloring books and stuff like that. And yeah, you

1045
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:01,039
still need to do some of that today, but a

1046
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,079
lot of it can be replaced with all right, you're

1047
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:05,440
six or seven, here's here's you know something of all

1048
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,159
the art you could the other thing, Dude, I had

1049
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,199
to charge my game boy bro didn't If I forgot

1050
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,880
to plug it in before the flight, I was screwed.

1051
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,199
I just didn't get to play Pokemon. That was miserable.

1052
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you could have figured out how to draw if

1053
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,800
you were born in nineteen twenty.

1054
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:20,079
Speaker 2: No, well I probably still wouldn't have done that because

1055
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,360
not very creative there.

1056
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: But uh, it's like being like, if you have more time,

1057
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,360
maybe you could have been in the NBA. It's like, no,

1058
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,960
some people just can't be in can't play basketball.

1059
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: Fine, more time for the factory. Who cares or the mines?

1060
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: Keep grinding, grind mentality never stops. This country's built off.

1061
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I grinded my phone, always grinded on the phones.

1062
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:44,199
Trust the process, but yeah.

1063
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Some ultimately believe Balta's treatment at the zoo was not

1064
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,199
much better. People wrote into the local paper and expressed

1065
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,280
regret for contributing to Balto to Cleveland Fund as one

1066
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,199
of the most inhuman acts they could.

1067
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: Have ever performed.

1068
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:00,639
Speaker 1: Zoos Superintendent John Kramer, however, defended his treatment of the

1069
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,280
dogs and Fox said, people don't understand why we do

1070
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:05,280
the certain things that we do.

1071
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,639
Speaker 2: You can't please them all.

1072
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:09,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, what they were just in a zoo, like in

1073
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:11,519
a cage. They got to run around like a in

1074
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,159
a some sort of habitat. I'm sure it's not as

1075
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:16,800
good as like modern zoo habitats, but it's better than

1076
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:22,360
some dark, dank, fucking Nickel museum in Los Angeles in

1077
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:22,960
the twenties.

1078
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:25,519
Speaker 2: For these huskies.

1079
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, chain to a sled and a little tiny like

1080
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,960
twelve by twelve exhibit.

1081
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:35,639
Speaker 2: It's an upgrade. It's gotta be. And there's a winter

1082
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,119
in Cleveland. They can play in the snow.

1083
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 3: You know what I feel bad is when I go

1084
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,880
to like the Saint Louis Zoo in July and the

1085
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,159
polar bears are outside. They always look like, can you

1086
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:46,519
kill me?

1087
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: They're just I yeah, well they will trick you and

1088
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:54,039
they will kill you. Well yes, but they also look

1089
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,159
like they crave the sweet release of death as well.

1090
00:50:56,599 --> 00:50:59,559
It's not it's not a sweet time for them. Maybe.

1091
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:01,599
Actually they're just breeding those bears.

1092
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,079
Speaker 3: Like anywhere that has a summer that has polar bears,

1093
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:06,920
they're getting them used to a melted ice cap so

1094
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,800
that they can go back up and live again.

1095
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: You got to see it. Yeah, we're genetically engineering polar bears.

1096
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,119
I love it to live in a new tropical yep

1097
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,880
in the New Age. Yeah, that's coming very shortly, Yes,

1098
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,079
any any day now. Six years I'm waiting for it.

1099
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:22,440
Person years. I heard it was gonna be like there's

1100
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,079
gonna be a lot of great real estate about one

1101
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:26,159
hundred miles in from the coastline. Oh yeah.

1102
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:30,159
Speaker 1: Balto died on March fourteenth, nineteen thirty three, at the

1103
00:51:30,159 --> 00:51:30,960
age of fourteen.

1104
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,519
Speaker 2: It's a good, good stretch for him, for him man

1105
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:34,400
for Rosky. Yeah.

1106
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:38,559
Speaker 1: Following day, the Cleveland Museum of Natural History the grid

1107
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,559
display Balto in taxaderremy form where you can still see

1108
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:43,320
him to this day.

1109
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask that I'm gonna cleave that

1110
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,559
on my list, the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. Them

1111
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,559
h that's the only reason I would want to go

1112
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:52,039
to Cleveland.

1113
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:55,559
Speaker 1: And continuing to be the biggest header of this dog.

1114
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,400
By May nineteen forty seven, so Paula dismissed them run

1115
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,840
is a little more than just an ordinary hard run

1116
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,000
and Balto's fame as a product of modern publicity rather

1117
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:08,480
than the outstanding merit.

1118
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,079
Speaker 2: Balto was just a good average dock. What a hater

1119
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,119
by the way, dude, hell of a tax at jeremy job.

1120
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,039
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like truly have you been to uh man,

1121
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:23,280
it's not the met I forget what it is, but

1122
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,440
that there's one of the big one of the famous

1123
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,519
mediums in New York where they have all the like

1124
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:29,199
Taxi jerremy lions and shit like that.

1125
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: To Smithsonian, No matter, Yeah, I think, yeah, I think

1126
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:35,159
I was like maybe nine or ten because I want

1127
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,239
my grandparents. But yeah, they some of those pieces looked

1128
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:44,159
pretty shitty. Oh like well I remember because even at

1129
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:45,599
like nine or ten, I could tell. I was like

1130
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,760
that line looks like half his face is coming off.

1131
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,760
It is a bad, bad job. That like it is gross.

1132
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:55,400
I remember going and being like, oh, just go to

1133
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,880
a zoo.

1134
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: But again, people back then, when the Smithsonian was built,

1135
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,400
that wasn't an option. So the only way you're gonna

1136
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,639
see a fucking line or whatever it's a taxidermyed lion

1137
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,039
mm hmm, fuck it. But like you see it now

1138
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,679
and you're just like, this blows that the thing is

1139
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:12,920
just one of the parts of the technology a lot

1140
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,360
of people take for granted. Is like you've seen an

1141
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,599
elephant in your life one hundred years ago.

1142
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,199
Speaker 2: There's people who lived their whole life and just didn't know,

1143
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:22,760
Like they didn't realize there was this animal that was

1144
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:23,639
huge amount of tusks.

1145
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 3: I try to beat this drum all the time on

1146
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,880
the show. For everything you think you take for granted,

1147
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:33,440
there are literally a million more things that you don't

1148
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,800
even fucking realize.

1149
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,039
Speaker 2: The circuit normal, what circus existed. Do you see a

1150
00:53:39,079 --> 00:53:42,840
fucking elephant on a giant beach ball? True, but I

1151
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,719
guarantee there's someone fucking Mississippi. We never made it to

1152
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,559
the circus in their lifetime. Dude.

1153
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: It the amount of things you think are normal now

1154
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:55,039
they're not even remotely normal. We whatever future you think

1155
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:57,559
you live that it's supposed to exist with spaceships and

1156
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,400
flying cars, you're fucking in it.

1157
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: That's why retro future is one of my favorite aesthetics,

1158
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:06,559
Like imagining how like seventy and eighties people imagine the

1159
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:10,039
future would be. Yeah, sometimes seepook, but just like everything

1160
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:13,039
had a thousand switches and dials. Yeah, and it's like now, no,

1161
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,920
just have a touch screen because that makes the most sense.

1162
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,639
But like if you watch any you know, retro computers

1163
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,079
from like the forties, it's an entire it was just.

1164
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,039
Speaker 3: Or even like the spaceship from Alien Oh yeah, yeah,

1165
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:26,840
it's all like bright buttons and yeah, everything's very like

1166
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,639
tactile and you know, uh physical and that in nature

1167
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:34,000
a star in Star Wars, Yeah, same thing, Yeah, all

1168
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:36,519
physical buttons, like they couldn't analog. That's why I was like, yeah, yeh,

1169
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,280
I couldn't even comprehend that they would.

1170
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: Be anything digital.

1171
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, a touchscreen, Yeah, George Lucas could save hmself a

1172
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:43,960
lot of time.

1173
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,639
Speaker 2: But just putting like a screen and just some small

1174
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:50,880
text on it. They nailed holograms. That'll probably happen, but

1175
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,480
that that was a crazy hit from him, one of

1176
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:53,840
the few.

1177
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of brushed through holograms. Remember Tupac and

1178
00:54:57,639 --> 00:54:59,400
like Coachella. Ye's like a decade ago.

1179
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: That stuff is stupid. But I feel like you'll get

1180
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,239
holographic meetings sooner than later. That would be pretty tight.

1181
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,159
That wasn't stupid. That was cool. Calling from Japan, she'd

1182
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:11,000
be like, what's up in the room? Yelling at someone

1183
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,119
sexually harassing someone, really let them know how you feel.

1184
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you'd have like a zoom situation over

1185
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:20,320
COVID where people get caught cranking it.

1186
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

1187
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:25,599
Speaker 1: Imagine if you accidents hologrammed yourself while you were just pleasuring.

1188
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,679
Speaker 2: How many people got caught cranking it because the printing

1189
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,679
press was invented or you know, the invention of uh

1190
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,719
fucking can't think of the word right now, but uh,

1191
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,199
the Ford lines, you know zero Yeah, Well, I mean

1192
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,519
they had more time on their hands, they'd go to

1193
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:39,920
the bathroom get some stuff done.

1194
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,039
Speaker 3: Jerking off has almost certainly gone up.

1195
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, present time. Yeah, I don't think so. I think

1196
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,280
I think we jerk off. How many cavemen you think

1197
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,360
we're sitting in the caves just like trying to fight

1198
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,199
for their lives.

1199
00:55:50,039 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: And you just know we're good that we had nothing

1200
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,039
but bored them in time? What do you think they're

1201
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:56,559
doing trying to make fire?

1202
00:55:57,199 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: Can't jerk off in a doctor? Oh you can't, I guess, but.

1203
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:02,519
Speaker 2: Well maybe you can't. There's some repercussions to it, but

1204
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:03,480
you can one hundredercent to do it.

1205
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:06,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you masturbate anyway, free will exists. You don't realize this.

1206
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: You can masturbate anywhere. Fucking cancel culture. Yes, that's what

1207
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:12,679
the left wants.

1208
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,639
Speaker 3: So got Harvey Weinstein. I jack off in another woman's

1209
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:16,960
hotel room that I got the key to.

1210
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: She consented to it. Okay, you can jack off anywhere.

1211
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: People don't tell you this, No, people are afraid to

1212
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,559
admit it, just like Cony twenty twelve. Yeah, I mean,

1213
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,559
there is a consequence to all of your actions, but

1214
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:30,280
that's like reaction.

1215
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got a jerk it off in San Diego,

1216
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,679
you know, just physics. What did you boys learn today?

1217
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,599
I learned that jealousy is an evil traiton. Man, It'll

1218
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:43,840
lead to some disgusting things. I learned that this man

1219
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,320
was probably one of the bigger haters in human history.

1220
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:49,360
Definitely over a dog of all things too. Yeah, man's

1221
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,960
best friend. They fucking he He was salty as fuck.

1222
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,559
Speaker 1: I think it was just the take culture of his time, right,

1223
00:56:56,639 --> 00:56:59,719
Like he just was on record already that this dog

1224
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,159
and he overperformed.

1225
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he had to double down. He's like off

1226
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:07,920
the point. I respect that sticking to your guns. No,

1227
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,079
this dog's trash. He's like to go's the guy. Yeah,

1228
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:13,280
you guys don't even you're not even ready to hear

1229
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:13,719
about toy.

1230
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,639
Speaker 3: I do feel bad for him that he got like

1231
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,960
no love, even though it was him that like organized

1232
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,280
it and ran the toughest part.

1233
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,679
Speaker 1: It's his property, it's his town. He had to save

1234
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,920
his town. Yeah, including his eight year old daughter.

1235
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: I didn't learn this, but I forgot it, and you

1236
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:33,000
said something that like triggered my mind in a way

1237
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:35,079
that was just funny, which is, uh, he was the

1238
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:36,039
town owner.

1239
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: That's just how things wear back then. I know, I know,

1240
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:42,920
it's like this gold rush town. Everyone kind of goes

1241
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,480
out there. Yeah, it was like his mining company.

1242
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:48,239
Speaker 3: I just forgot. It's just funny like, oh, he's the mayor. No,

1243
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,199
he owns it, he owns he just owns it. Yeah,

1244
00:57:51,519 --> 00:57:54,000
there'll be no elections here, absolutely not.

1245
00:57:54,119 --> 00:58:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh judge, jury and executioner. Yeah. Respect. Who is

1246
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,760
today's hitler?

1247
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 3: Today's hitler? It's that guy Sephora whatever his name was. Yeah, Sequoia, subpoena,

1248
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:12,960
spolia whatever. That guy's a dick, sold the guy's dog.

1249
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:13,800
What happened to Gunner?

1250
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:14,559
Speaker 2: Uh?

1251
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:14,719
Speaker 3: So?

1252
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,679
Speaker 1: Gunner ultimately lived to be in like his seventies I think,

1253
00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:19,519
and he died of cancer.

1254
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,119
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a normal, normal life. Yeahah yeah. Was did

1255
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:28,440
he go visit Balto in Cleveland? I like to think

1256
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,840
he did. I like I hope he did.

1257
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,039
Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, be kind of it would be upsett

1258
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:37,119
And if he never got some closure with Balto.

1259
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,199
Speaker 3: Never got to see Balto again, that would be fucked.

1260
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:43,239
Speaker 2: But lived a normal life till he's seventy. He died

1261
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:47,280
of cancer. I'm gonna say went and saw Balto, maybe reunited.

1262
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,320
We're gonna hope he saw Balto. Yeah, yeah, I would

1263
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,599
hope he would. Who's today's hitler, Ryan, I mean, it's

1264
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:56,000
easy to go with U.

1265
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,119
Speaker 3: You know.

1266
00:58:57,239 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: Obviously the jealousy there, that's what That's what I'm calling

1267
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,239
him at this point. But honestly, I think it's the

1268
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,599
guy who overslept. You know. I think if he actually

1269
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:08,000
woke up for his alarm and took his original team,

1270
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:09,719
none of this would have happened, and Baltra would have

1271
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:10,440
had a you know, freeing.

1272
00:59:10,519 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the news wouldn't have to lie about this dog. Yeah,

1273
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:17,559
that's my hitler today, the media. You don't hate him

1274
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:24,880
enough telling untruths. Yeah about the sport.

1275
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: The port.

1276
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: Dog didn't ask for this, fake news forced him into

1277
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:28,920
this position.

1278
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,679
Speaker 2: It's tough, was spring board. Balto's just a good name.

1279
00:59:35,519 --> 00:59:39,480
It's better than Togo. It's better than Togo. Yeah, binding,

1280
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:40,840
I mean Fox, Fox.

1281
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: Doesn't ring like that for the front of the headline

1282
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:44,800
and Alto it's strong.

1283
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: It's gotta be a couple a couple of syllables. Yeah,

1284
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,960
it's strong Fox, he's along for the ride. At least.

1285
00:59:50,199 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 3: It's also confusing Fox the dog, you know what I mean,

1286
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:55,480
doesn't make sense. Yeah, Balto I mean that.

1287
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:58,719
Speaker 2: It was the name. It was the name brandings.

1288
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: Everything in the days has been for since the printing

1289
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,559
press wasn't matter tail as old at time.

1290
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:08,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, m well, Ryan, thanks for joining. Yeah, I appreciate

1291
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:10,119
you guys. Where can find people find you? It was

1292
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:12,920
a fun time. I'm on Instagram, that's where mostly where

1293
01:00:13,079 --> 01:00:16,800
I'm at. Mafia Underscore Production or Mafia Underscore MafA. Mafia

1294
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,400
Productions is on YouTube, that's where my podcast is. I

1295
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,800
don't really recommend you guys go check it out because well,

1296
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,679
we just talk about paintball a lot, and I know

1297
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,199
probably most of your fans aren't into that, but uh well,

1298
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,480
really underselling the paintball community. Yeah, you know, it's just

1299
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:31,159
a lot of virgins. You know, we all have a

1300
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:34,199
fun time together. Scott Lopez, he's a he's a big

1301
01:00:34,239 --> 01:00:36,320
part of it as well. He kind of leads the leads,

1302
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,199
the causes, the wizard of the virgin community. It's really yeah,

1303
01:00:39,199 --> 01:00:43,239
they're all virgins because everyone that plays paintball's fourteen. Well,

1304
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,360
there are miners on teams that we know, so I'm

1305
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,559
not gonna make that joke. But the rest of us

1306
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,760
who are of legal age, Yeah, we just don't you know.

1307
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,039
We spend a lot of money on paintballs that explode

1308
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:56,079
on impacts, so we don't really go on dates. It's

1309
01:00:56,119 --> 01:00:58,920
the whole thing. Yeah, have you been hit with iced paintballs?

1310
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:01,679
One of the biggest myths that you've ever heard in

1311
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:04,400
your life. Frozen paintballs actually hurt less because they're more

1312
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,519
brittle and they break easier on contact. Really, what actually

1313
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,199
hurts is when paintballs sit in the sun for a

1314
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:11,840
long time because they swell up. It's a gelatin that

1315
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,960
absorbs humidity, so it becomes a more bouncy thing. And

1316
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,800
due to physics, if something bounces on you, it's gonna

1317
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,199
leave more of that force hitting you instead of where

1318
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:22,920
if it breaks, it's gonna some of that's gonna go

1319
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,760
into it. So yeah, go, if anyone ever tells you

1320
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,800
they got shot with frozen paintballs, they're a liar and

1321
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,159
uh nah or I love Yeah, there you go. That's

1322
01:01:31,199 --> 01:01:34,280
what I learned today. Yeah. Also, I mean, you know,

1323
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,360
doing media for it. I've been shot by probably thousands

1324
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,239
of paintballs over the last couple of years. They really

1325
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,519
don't hurt that, but the worrespo you been hit Honestly,

1326
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,599
last weekend I have got hit right in the Adam's apple.

1327
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:47,199
That was not fun. But last weekend I got shot

1328
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,400
right in the back of my knee on the nerve

1329
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,960
and the from my knee down. I went numb for

1330
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:54,800
about twenty seconds and then it came back. We were good.

1331
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,360
But that's the thing. It only hurts for a couple

1332
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,119
of minutes and then you just have a bruce. And

1333
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:01,360
what about being shot in the dick. So that's why

1334
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,880
I wear a cup of fiber rag down there, because

1335
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,599
the cup gets too annoying all day when you're in

1336
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,679
weird positions trying to move around. It's like wearing a

1337
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,760
catcher's cup. You know, it's not that great, but uh yeah,

1338
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,760
you definitely want something down there. I've taken a couple

1339
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,960
without any protection and uh yeah, it's nice's not don't

1340
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,880
recommend it's not fun. Okay, what's you got? Patreon, Patreon

1341
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:21,239
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1342
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,559
Speaker 1: Slash Software History two additional episodes every week Wednesday and Friday.

1343
01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:31,639
Yeah Sweet Sweet appreciated by rb Balto. Yeah for rough

1344
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:34,159
Fox right off it, I'm damn Jesser and you just

1345
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:34,800
got saw server