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back to the Pekinona Show. Dave's back. It's been a while.

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How are you doing good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, excellent, it's been quite a wild week, Hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: A very wild week? It was funny that saying that

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you were back, because I think what we had interacted

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and you hadn't You didn't even remember if you had

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ever appeared on the show. That's how long it was.

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Speaker 2: It's about a year, hasn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so yeah. I've been doing some podcasts ever since,

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uh November fifth, but really haven't touched on this except

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in my sub stack videos. So you wrote a piece

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after the election of Donald Trump, and I thought that

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it was probably it was the kind of thing that

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I wanted to read afterwards because it's not like, oh,

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he won because of this. He won because you know

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he won because he went to this state in that state.

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Now you're looking basically at the zeitgeist and you're trying

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to figure out exactly why you know he would win.

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And at the time you wrote that, I don't think

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you had even known that he would win every battleground state.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, insane or or apparently the House. Right, He's won

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the House at the stage right, so he has full

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control of the government technically, which is interesting.

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Speaker 1: Mandate. So what I guess happened, Well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so obviously, the biggest thing is that this.

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You know, when I was asked for election predictions, I said,

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there's a fifty percent chance that this would be an

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ordinary election, and if that were the case, there was

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a seventy percent chance that Trump would win. It turns

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out that twenty twenty was an anomaly. This was an

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election like we used to have elections, or at least

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it resembled more the way we used to have elections

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than whatever the hell happened in twenty twenty. And under

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those conditions, Trump was the obvious winner. I mean, it's

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it kind of sounds ridiculous to say that, but that's

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essentially what happened. He you know, I guess the question

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is really is is how how the left is going

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to pross this. There's the sort of most interesting thing

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about Trump's victory, and I don't think it's victory. Once

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once it was clear that you weren't going to have

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like a twenty twenty kind of anomalous election where millions

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and millions of people who never voted before suddenly mysteriously

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started voting right out of nowhere. Right, not to get

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your channel flagged or anything, but you know, you know,

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you can look at the vote counts and the vote

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counts for the twenty twenty election, just millions of people

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are on the rules, mostly voting for Kamala that never

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have appeared before in American elections and apparently will never

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appear again or until something else happens. That's very, very strange,

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and that didn't happen. And then because of that, just

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Trump just won and he won everything, and there were

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so many mistakes leading into this that it's hard to

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even know where to begin. The messaging of the Kamala

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Harris campaign was terrible, and the coalition, and this kind

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of leads into the aftermath. The coalition that the progressives

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represent just looks incredibly exhausted. It's it's absolutely exhausted. And

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you'd think that if Trump won like this previously, there'd

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be huge protests, there would be a huge resistance movement.

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just a whole line of progress is kind of becoming

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resigned to their condition, and I mean that it kind

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of makes it interesting. I guess it's it's kind of

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like we've we've come to the end of a certain

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kind of phase of the progressive movement. And that phase

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is it's I think what really died is its pretensions

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to be at all revolutionary because they can't sell revolutionary anymore.

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upset the system. No one is saying, yeah, these guys

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are the guys that are the anti authoritarians, not after

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four years of Biden. And so that that results in

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this very very strange situation where Trump, who I don't

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think as a revolutionary figure, and we might talk about

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his appointments a little bit, although I'm not completely up

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on that. He's not a very revolutionary figure, but he

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finds himself in a revolutionary position with an opposition that

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can't get organized to really oppose him. And it's bizarre.

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hold together. I mean, you know, the left writ large

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is always going to get more powerful because it functions

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on degeneracy, generasy naturally increases. But the kind of cohesive

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property it had from two basically for our entire lives,

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where everyone would kind of get on the same message,

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that has completely degraded. And I think what really degraded

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was October seventh. You know, it just it just split

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the whole thing in two, that the Left couldn't get

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on message because it's donor class was entirely pro Israel

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and its activist class was almost entirely anti Israel, and

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house divide against itself cannot stand narratively speaking, and they

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could never recover from that. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of hard to be revolutionary when you control everything,

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when you're in power, what are you revolting against?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're well. I mean that Kamal tried

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to do that. Kamal tried to become the incumbent outsider.

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which is why come all those whole idea is well,

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all this campaign from my basement, and we'll do coconut

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and brat memes, and I'll do a bunch of hip

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dances with the kids, and I'll go on the female

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podcast Like you hear all these podcasts that she went on,

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You never heard of them before, like call her Daddy

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or whatever. This is something that millennial women watching no

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one else. And then and that that kind of message

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that narrative will will will kind of carry the day.

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for Biden. Again. It worked for Biden in twenty twenty

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he campaign from the basement, But in twenty twenty four

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people were actually not just in a mode of pure reaction.

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They were looking around and asking themselves what direction they

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want the country to go in. And because of that,

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a candidate that is simply a non entity, like Joe

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Biden initially and then Kamala Harris later for different reasons,

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is not going to be able to win in a

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general election. Again. They could change the rules tomorrow and

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we'll see what happens. But I'm really more interested. You know,

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there's some battles coming up with the deep state and

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with the Trump ascendency. This time, the most immediate battle

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is going to be between the paleocons or the deep

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right and the neocons, and that's going on in Trump's

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appointment decisions right now. That is, in many ways is

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the more important battle, at least in the short term,

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although I don't know how much you or I or

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anyone watching really has control over that if you're not

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meeting with Trump regularly. But the longer term battle is

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just how the narrative is going to reform around what

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the left is doing and I keep on trying to

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think of something that will work for them, and you know,

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none of the usual tricks work. And I've heard there's

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also been kind of a huge falling away of left

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wing followers on social media right now. Just today, which

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was recording this. On the fifteenth, there was this huge

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campaign to get everyone to quit Twitter, slash x, this

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was the thing they were doing. I don't think that

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this will work, but it's interesting to see that they're

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trying to find some way that feels good to react

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to this, and so far nothing is really feeling good.

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Speaker 1: Well, something you said there about twenty twenty, it was

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something that I I really hadn't considered until today. So

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Trump gets elected in twenty sixteen, it's four years of

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circling the wagons, refilling their coffers, CNN, basically being resurrected.

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They were pretty close to dead and basically all they

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had to do was and they had all the power

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from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty. You know, Trump couldn't

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do anything because the left was in power. The deep

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state was there. There is no there was He wasn't

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ready to attack the deep state, and we could talk

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about whether any appointments that we've seen change our mind

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about that now. But basically what happened was instead of

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the left just doing what they did, they became reactionary.

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They became, it seems to me, in twenty twenty, they

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became reactionary against Trump and more Trumps supporters. And it's like, look,

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you put this, you put this fool in there for

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four years who almost destroyed, you know, who could have

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destroyed our country. We're gonna shove everything down your throat

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that we know you hate. And it turns out that

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we aren't the only people who hate it. Most people

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hate it. And I think that was part of the

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reaction that we saw on the fifth.

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Speaker 2: And this is also the thing. The big loser of

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this electionist Barack Obama, well you're witnessing right now, is

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his coalition falling apart. If you're seeing the guy, he

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looks like a corpse. And Kamola was really his It

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feels weird to say his girl, but you know, she

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was really his little plaything. She was the continuation of

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his legacy. And his coalition is smashed. And it's interesting

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reimagining of America. But Obama didn't really have any vision

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to speak of. I mean, he didn't even really have

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a group of visionary people behind him. He had a

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bunch of sort of millennials. There weren't really millennials in

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government yet, but he had a bunch of millennial energy

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behind him. But the millennials weren't raised to kind of

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reach for any larger aspirational vision of America. Millennials were

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raised with this social justice ideology that they'd be kind

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of the stewards of moral correctness in the system. So

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when Obama came in, it was like, well, we're just

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going to do this sort of neoliberal social democracy but

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with increased moral preaching and kind of a switch over

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that I mean again like any politics is oh we

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all politics of identity politics. That this will never end

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and in the long term the demographic trend will be destiny,

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but in the short term as sort of a political

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formula that will keep a party in power, Obama's vision

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for how the Democrats could just get ultimate political stability

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has just failed in this election. They will not, you know,

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regardless of whether America is transformed demographically and politically by

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the changing racial and religious composition of this country. That

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will not be like a smooth ride continuously overseen by

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a Democratic party that can completely manage the message and

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manage the unloaded government in the wake of that. It

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will be a huge turbulent process that will only be

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kept in line with very very hard uses of power

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which the Democratic parties is not capable of wielding. And

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so Obama's entire vision of the future that was sold

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just was just killed. I mean it was really killed

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on October seventh, because I keep keep on going back

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to that, but I mean, the coalition only works with

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them on board. It only works with with with the

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pro israel faction on board. Without the pro Israeli faction

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on board, the only people I mean that the pro

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Israeli faction of the Democrat Party is the same faction.

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It's everyone else's lunatics. Everyone else are are Communists, but

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without the level of intellectual you know, aptitude or intelligence

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that previous generations of communists had. And so when when

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it would have been a much different fight the Democrat

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Newsom could have won. But as as it was, you

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and it will not work in the future. It will,

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you know again, it will. It will take power, but

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the power will be divided in unorganized and contentious and

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constantly forming into circular firing squadch squads. And this is

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with a vision of America where he is in charge

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of the largest potential ruling class that isn't completely comprised

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of lunatics and of people that are kind of stuck

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in a Cold war mindset or who you know, might

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be loyal to a country that isn't the United States,

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there a ruling coalition that Trump commands that can present

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itself as such? And if there is, then Trump will

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be the transformative figure of this, well, at least the

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first part of the twenty first century, not Obama or

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not anyone else like Obama. And ultimately I think someone

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younger will have to complete that transformation. But the sort

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of formula we've seen in front of us on the fifth.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you brought up October seventh a couple

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of times, and that's what I to me, was that

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changed politics going forward?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And so the question is was there anybody that they

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could run who could pull the coalition of pro Zionists

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and the ones who are like, you're basically committing genocide together,

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And I don't know, there was no one that could

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do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all paths to a coherent coalition dependent on October

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seventh's not happening. If October seventh didn't happen, they could

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have run an open primary, gotten someone like Nussoman, and

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everything would be hunky dory, you know, and it would

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still be close. It would still be close, but they

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probably could have won that. But with October seventh, I mean,

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who are they going to run like AOC with AOC

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work AOC. I mean, I don't know what AOC pull

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people in. Maybe I tend to think the AOC is

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more of an Internet meme and a local phenomenon than

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she is an actual viable political strategy, a viable force

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going forward, you know. I mean, she's she's kind of

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a meme on both sides. She's not a very forceful personality.

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Speaker 1: And she's taken the she's taken the pronouns out of

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her bio and is now calling herself a congresswoman instead

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of a congress person, So.

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Speaker 2: Pronouns are out an.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the the assumption that you know, some some people

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are making that she's actually pregnant and becoming a mom

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and she's going to, I don't know, become TRADCAF.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this is this is the thing. Like

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the obvious correct move is to pivot to the right

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for the Democrats, Like they have to like that, and

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you could you could sell like if you had a

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video game controller and you were controlling the Democrat Party,

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if this is some kind of like what if it

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was the Parallax game type deal, you could easily figure

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out how they'd be. Like they add a little bit

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of religion in and a little bit of civic nationalism

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and they get the uh, you know, they get the

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people who left after October seventh back in to finance

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the universities, and they double promised to keep out the

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kuks in Berkeley and Stanford and Harvard and all that stuff,

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and then they have a winning coalition again. But they

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just they just can't because well, I think the radical

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left is not going to make those kind of compromises.

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If if the radical left was going to make compromises

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on identity politics, then the radical left would wouldn't be

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what it is right now, which is like this incredibly

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fake thing. I mean that the radical left is it's

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hard to stay overstate it's vakeness. I mean, is the

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moderate left fake? I mean, the moderate left is fake too,

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But there are authentically power hungry and soosiopaths. And I

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don't think anyone would look at the moderate left, like

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the Democrat Party like Gavenusom and think that they aren't

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just power hungry and sociopaths. So they are authentically what

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they look like. But the radical left is they're pretending

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to be radicals and principled moralists, but they're actually just

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narcissists and people who are participating in sort of a

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social media phenomenon. And so because of that, like they

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can't actually play politics, because the correct move for the

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radical left would be to make a red brown alliance

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and toss out the neocons and the moderate left and

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then you know, kind of originally rule the country. And

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you know, that would be if they believed in what

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they said and what if they're foreign policy priorities were paramount.

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That is the winning move for the radical left. But

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they were not going to do that because the moment

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they do that, then the entertainment product they're the thing

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goes away. And because of that they can't really compromise it.

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They go, Okay, actually, transgenderism is not a thing that

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would be like a prudent move for Democrats to make.

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That can't happen, Like the radical left can't allow that

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to happen, and the radical Left is too close to

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power to do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess we have to make the decision and

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comes to the conclusion that the right, who is divided,

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I mean, they're not as divide, We're not as divided

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on in numbers wise the Israel issue as the left is.

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But it seems like even so, we have a lot

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of people on the right who you know, are very

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anti Zionists, but they still voted for Donald Trump, believing

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Donald Trump to be the biggest Zionist president of the

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world that we've ever had, because they hate the left

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more than the left hates the right. Because if the

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left hated the right as much as the right hated

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the left on November fifth, the left would have en

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mass voted against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, in some sense, the left did

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vote against Donald Trump. The thing is, what they didn't

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do is they didn't enthusiastically get out there and run

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all their activist organizations to farm ballots. And the utility

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of the radical left is not in their actions of voting.

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It's in their actions of discovering people who haven't voted

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and then getting a mail in ballot in front of

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them and in the mailbox with a probabilistically likely vote

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for Harris. And so without the enthusiasm that activist work

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doesn't get done on the ground. And there was no

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activist enthusiasm the you know, the optimal way again, like

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there's so many parties involved. I don't even know who

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really to speak for. If you talk to people like

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Hassan Piker and was Evash and dated pac Men and

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other people who are they're not actually concerned about the

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Democrat Party's prospects in the future, and they're certainly not compared.

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They don't care about Palestine. They care about the fact

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that they're they're the narrative on their media product is

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falling apart, and so they're trying to figure out some

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kind of narrative by which politics becomes fun again. Like

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I said before, if they cared about instituting their revolutionary

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policies or again ending the war in Palestine, they would

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be trying to look into some kind of I hate

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the use the Red Brown Alliance and the alliance between

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the anti establishment forces in American politics against the center,

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because that's the only thing that could kind of permanently

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keep them out. But again, I don't think that any

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of the leaders actually care about that. They care about

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the narrative, kind of like the game has to go

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on the late night shows like Stephen Colbert and those

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are those really disgusting people. It's kind of you look

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at them, I mean, I haven't watched them in ages,

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but you look at the reaction videos where I mean

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they're essentially running late night as an extended op ed

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for the Democrat Party. It's it's kind of disgusting to

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think that that's been taken away from us. But all

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they're thinking about right now is how can we get

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America's political entertainment product back online? And if Trump plays

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his cards correctly and reframes the issues so that it's

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always about solving problems, then that political entertainment product is

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going to be much more difficult to get back in

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line with where people needed to be to keep the

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show ongoing. And you know, I think I kind of

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hope to see a bit of a collapse. I mean,

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we're already saying kind of a collapse in some of

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the in some of the appointments. There's sort of a

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changing of the guard that apparently is going on with

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Trump's appointments, and I haven't again been following it, but

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it seems to be going in a somewhat okay direction.

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But I hope that that's also accompanied by a change

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in the guard. In terms of American media, I hope

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that Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert's business mod just doesn't

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work in this era now. People are so burnt out

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on politics that they don't want to hear somebody joke.

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For twenty minutes about a political situation that they find

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to be completely exhausting, and they change the channel, and

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these people want to and people decide to go back

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to something that's more like David Letterman or Jay Leno

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after all of this, and I hope that we can

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see a continuing disintegration of the sort of moderate left

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internet seer as well. I don't think that there actually

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is a coherent ideology keeping millennial progresses together online, and

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I think that they're mostly mostly kind of predicated on

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a very comfortable understanding about who are at the default

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winners inside political arguments, and the second they enter into

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dialectic they immediately fall apart. This is something that you

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realize is to kind of go in a digression about

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the exodus from Twitter, when you have all these people

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like the Guardian and all these progressives essentially leaving the

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second the platform is opened up and it becomes an

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open debate platform, hard progressivism of the radical millennial variety

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just cannot exist there. And even the moderate sort of democrat,

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you know, American psycho Gavin Newsom progressivism it has a

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hard time living there as well. These people cannot do

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discourse anymore so there there's sort of a there's sort

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of a huge narrative collapse for the left in terms

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of selling their products. And I hope to say as

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much of the of the mainstream and as much of

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new media this kind of collapse under the weight of

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this this disjunction.

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Speaker 1: And I think what we saw from David Packman, I'm

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sure you've seen the video, I think that's just panic

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and it's also a way of I mean, he had Honestly,

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before I saw that, I didn't even know he had

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a show. I thought he was just some jerk off

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on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Oh I remember I saw that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I remember he had it said he had two

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point sixty five million subscribers, and he said he lost

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five thousand of them. Now, if an account, like if

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I lost five thousand on YouTube, that would be something,

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it would be something. I mean, yeah, so they would

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have had to have been paid. And yeah, I think

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it is it is more that a an industry, an

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entertainment industry, has been built around the left being right.

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And you see it like some of the some of

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the posts that you've seen that I've seen on x

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over the past couple of days, or just as I mean,

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from people like Bill Crystal, who are just I mean,

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they're like, what's going to happen to this country when

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you know, go get your vaccine. Bill Crystal didn't say this,

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but I saw go get your vaccines because vaccines aren't

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going to be available after January twentieth, when RFK Junior

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takes over HHS. This doesn't this This is the kind

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of hyperbole that is not meant to do anything politically.

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It's meant to try to drive people back to or

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to this kind of entertainment, the commentary around leftism that

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they've become so accustomed.

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Speaker 2: To, and right now they want to swing radical, but

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the left wing in this country is too tired to

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swing that way. It can't swing radical. It can't do

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another Summer of twenty twenty again, or it can't do

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another what was it was the pussy March, dimver that

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from twenty sixteen you had all these I had all

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these like boomer women, all these boomer women in twenty seventeen,

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you know, protesting outside of the Capitol and these pink hats.

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Speaker 1: There's not enough energy I think gets the money to

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do that. Where do they get the money to do

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that in the middle of the day in the middle

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of the week.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, they're all retired. They're all retired, they're all

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retired rich boomers. I mean, this is like maybe okay,

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I'm kind of speaking for my own community, but this was,

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you know, in places like Berkeley, California. I mean, like

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they were all over that stuff where they are all

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a bunch of these these retired women with more money

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than they know what to do with. They'll fly out

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to DC, right even though it's like a you know,

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it's a six hour plane ride. Yeah, I mean, but

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I don't think there's the energy. It's it's really weird

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how there's just not the energy to do something like this.

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It would be so easy if Trump had not won

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the popular vote. Because the left is trying to find

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some way that they can say that this is this

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election is procedurally illegitimate. They tried collusion. They can't say

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that Trump stole it by faking ballots because they just

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assured us for the last four years. But that never happens.

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They can't procedurally contest that because they also assured us

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for the last four years that procedurally contesting an election

478
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was tantamount to treason, and they can't fall back on

479
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,480
them democracy thing because Trump won the popular vote, so

480
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,000
they don't have a narrative by which they can call

481
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:39,519
this election illegitimate, and so without a narrative, they don't

482
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have anything to really motivate their activist class. And so

483
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I think it will be about a year before they

484
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can find some other narrative that will allow them to

485
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,839
exert very much activist pressure at all. And in that

486
00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:54,680
time it is very hard for them to cancel people,

487
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,359
which is obviously good for us.

488
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Speaker 1: Speaking of that, what is our role? What do we

489
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:08,559
talk about now? What do we what is our content

490
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looking sound like?

491
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Speaker 2: I think I think that well other than I think

492
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that our are our role as activists is to do

493
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organization locally. This is something that certain organizations like the

494
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:27,759
OGC and the Exit Group and Souldings and Bale Wolf

495
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have done over the course of the last three years.

496
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And I think we've just scratched the surface of this.

497
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I think that as soon as young men in particular

498
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get organized, there's just so much good they can do,

499
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,640
as long as they have an ideological way to stay

500
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loyal to each other. I think that I don't think

501
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,720
we can really overstate the amount of damage that's been

502
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done to young men by local conservative and religious leaders.

503
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,480
Who's their number one instinct is as soon as they

504
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,759
see young men gather together for a political call, is

505
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,400
to tell them they shouldn't be doing politics. They need

506
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,359
to be, you know, properly conforming to X, Y and

507
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:11,039
z idiotic idea kind of hr type idea that they

508
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:14,680
really should be doing something else. And it's it's always

509
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,720
disrupted and the enthusiasm is always tamped down. What if

510
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:22,119
you had an organization of young men with strong leadership

511
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,319
that actually was focused on not only doing good in

512
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the community, but also managing power within the community in

513
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,319
a responsible way. And if that is something that you know,

514
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that's a role, I think that rolls it to open

515
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,079
to people. And if it's well organized, then you know,

516
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,039
the sky's the limit. If it's us here online, I

517
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,480
think that this next year is going to be a

518
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:51,480
bonanza for online expansion on the right. I think people

519
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,880
are looking for different ideologies that are not the nonsense

520
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,640
that's been preached by people like Hassan Piker. I think

521
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,960
they're looking for different places to actually discuss politics and

522
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,960
not just to simply hear a lecture, and for the

523
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,359
next year. Like I said, I think both the radical

524
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,880
left and the moderate left is represented by the mainstream media.

525
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:13,359
Is this going to be insane? We had what be

526
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,000
Goldberg just today call for a sex strike. This is

527
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,279
you know, this is the whole This is that TikTok

528
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,279
about like the four bees from the Korea, the four nos,

529
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:26,000
like it was no no dating, no sex, no marriage,

530
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,559
no babies or something like that, you know, the bes.

531
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I don't know what the word is, but B is

532
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,400
the no in Korea, right, It's a B word of

533
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,000
some variety. And I mean this is when someone tells

534
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:43,279
you that they're basically declaring that they have no right

535
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,440
to be doing politics in a responsible way. I mean,

536
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,720
who who It's like, Okay, that's of the variety of oh,

537
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:54,400
let's burn our house down to because because we're unhappy

538
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,039
about you know, how how how our mortgage is being

539
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:00,799
handled by the bank, or you know, let's cut our

540
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,240
nose off to spite our face, or you know, let's uh,

541
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,039
let's just harm ourselves to cathartically deal with our own emotions.

542
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,440
The second someone says that to me, and they should

543
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,880
be apparent to all people. When a person commends that

544
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,559
something horribly self destructive be undertaken to no greater effect

545
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,240
than to project people's emotions into the ether. And that

546
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,640
person should not be doing real politics. That person's not

547
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:30,079
part of a conversation, that they're trying to emotionally blackmail you,

548
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,480
and that just that just should not be part of

549
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:34,839
the conversation. And so you have so many I guess

550
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200
I think this is only TikTok, but you have so

551
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,079
many people in the mainstream media just showing that they're

552
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:45,839
they're absolute lunatics when it comes to doing real politics

553
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:48,799
and not just trying to treat it as an extended

554
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:54,440
opportunity to emotionally blackmail their audience. That's an opportunity for us.

555
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:57,519
It's an opportunity because there's just so much stuff that

556
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,119
doesn't exist. There's no who is the person that America

557
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,559
goes to to just relax and hear jokes? Who Where

558
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,480
do people young people go. Where do young men go

559
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,480
to get fraternity and to build their careers up. Where

560
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:15,920
do young people generally go just to hear politics discussed

561
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,239
in a real way. All of these things are places

562
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,599
that I think a lot of the creators can fill,

563
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,280
and we can take a huge step forward in the

564
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next year.

565
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,639
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you know any of the

566
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,559
picks he's made, as far as it seems like he

567
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,719
went through. The first ones he did would relate to

568
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,079
foreign policy, and now he's doing domestic policy. Well, the

569
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:49,320
one everyone's policy. Yeah, what we're gonna.

570
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Speaker 2: Say is that the foreign policy one I've heard of

571
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,280
in a mixed bag. The domestic policy ones have been well.

572
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,039
The one, the big one everyone's reacting to is the

573
00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:01,360
Matt Gaates nomination, right, which is you know, I don't

574
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,000
really know much about Matt Gates, but from reputation this

575
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:08,760
will be revolutionary. And you have half the Department of

576
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,320
Justice threatening to quit over his nomination. I mean, if

577
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,360
he has to replay, is half the employees in the

578
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,039
Department of Justice and he does like that's that's a

579
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:22,079
new cut. That's a whole new way of managing domestic

580
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:23,000
law enforcement.

581
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Speaker 1: And what's what's very interesting about the Gates position at

582
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,400
Attorney General is even if that doesn't go through today,

583
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he just nominated Todd blanche as Deputy Attorney General, who

584
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,599
is his personal lawyer, who is the one who's been

585
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:49,599
doing this and his when you look at his career

586
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,159
he is basically a he's a hard ass, and this

587
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,239
is a guy who is One thing that you cannot

588
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,159
say about his appointments so far is that they haven't

589
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,800
been loyal just about every single one. You know, people

590
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,159
want to talk about Marco Rubio, we can talk about

591
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,559
that one. I have my own opinion on why Marco

592
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,719
Rubio was chosen as Secretary of State, and it has

593
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,840
nothing to do with Israel. But the you know, because

594
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,360
he is a gigantic Zionists, as a lot of the

595
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,800
foreign people have been. But the you know, when you

596
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,000
put your when your deputy attorney general, who would be

597
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:30,800
the one who would step into attorney general is somebody

598
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,920
who's a loyalist to you, who is a hard ass,

599
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,639
who's worked for two of the biggest law firms in

600
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:40,559
the country and the oldest law firm in America. And

601
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:45,519
he's a you know, he's old stock, you know, heritage American,

602
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,760
which is basically what what he seems to be putting

603
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,519
into place now as far as his domestic goes, then

604
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,400
you have to and then you look at Tulsi as

605
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,639
d and I over all the intelligence age, over all

606
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:05,480
the intelligence agencies, and basically she's on a list on

607
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:09,440
a flying she has they watch her when she goes flying,

608
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,000
so now she's over the people who put that in there.

609
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:20,840
And then you have someone like someone like what's his

610
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,199
name that they you have the whole elon and Vivick

611
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:30,519
Ramaswani thing who we know. Vivick has studied James Burnham

612
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,360
and he talks about the managerial state. It does actually

613
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,960
look like when when you just concentrate on what's been

614
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840
what's been showsen and then RFK Junior over Health and

615
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,920
Human Services, the whole CDC over everything, it looks like

616
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,360
he's his real concentration is on fixing what's wrong here.

617
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, his his domestic policy is his domestic nominations have

618
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:59,320
been a lot more adventurous and a lot more promising

619
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than this foreign ones. One of his problems though, I

620
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,119
think you might not have enough people to put in positions.

621
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,000
This has always been a problem with the right wing

622
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:12,079
is that our bench is so shallow because for the

623
00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:16,719
last thirty years we have discouraged the sort of legacy

624
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Americans from career paths that would put them in positions

625
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,519
to take government office. And this has been this has

626
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,599
been the large consequence of how people have structured their

627
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,840
sort of pre law and sort of government studies inside college,

628
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,599
where they're almost now overwhelmingly dominated by what essentially are

629
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,679
either progressive seminaries that also put forward I mean, Democrats

630
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:42,519
are kind of suffering from the flip side of this.

631
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:47,039
They're suffering from the fact that they reward political loyalties

632
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,840
so much that anyone who makes it to the top

633
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,079
is a political hack, and you know, they're only there.

634
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,480
Like Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is not particularly bright. She

635
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:57,159
is actually kind of a dim Let's be honest. We

636
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:59,199
can be honest about this now, right, Kamala Harris is

637
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,920
kind of a dim one. I mean maybe not, I

638
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,440
mean not she's and she's probably not below average, right,

639
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,760
but for someone who's expected to have one of the

640
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,760
most intellectually attacks and jobs in the world, she's not

641
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,760
up there where most presidential presidential candidates usually are. And

642
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:20,360
you know, from from Soda Sonya Soda Mayor to Gatan

643
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,119
Jue Brown Jackson, this is the line of these people

644
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:26,480
who are just they're just not quite there, and the

645
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:32,719
reason is that they're promoted for political reasons. And when

646
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,559
this gets to sort of the Republican side. There's just

647
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,639
not like there's no how many Republicans come out of

648
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,760
Yale that that like they they're twenty two, they get

649
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,159
their bachelor's and like, you know what, I'm going to

650
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,480
be high up. I'm going to be an appoint for government.

651
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:53,039
That's my destiny. There isn't like everyone who's a Republican

652
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:56,280
or not politically loyal, they either go into engineering or

653
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,920
law or marketing and they join the corporate or they're

654
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,760
just kind of passed over and have some kind of

655
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:07,159
you know, middle of the road wagy job. And so

656
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:10,280
all all of our talent in America is in completely

657
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,800
the wrong place to actually take the power that Trump

658
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,000
now has access to dole out. So my chief concern

659
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,119
is that Trump is going to be giving this is

660
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,280
he just has to do this right now. He's going

661
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,880
to but he's going to give a lot of jobs

662
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,440
to a lot of older people that aren't going to

663
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,960
want to move into radical directions, and that's going to

664
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320
be a limitation to his sort of revolution that he's running.

665
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Speaker 1: Well right now, I think the what we're looking at

666
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is almost almost all of the appointees are late gen

667
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,840
X early millennials, which is I think somebody did the

668
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,480
average and said that on average, they're twenty years younger

669
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,519
than the average Joe Biden appointee through it in a

670
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:55,440
couple of cases.

671
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: Oh so okay, that's actually really that's how I did

672
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,559
not hear that. That is quite heartening. Actually, I wonder

673
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:05,079
where he's finding the CV. I wonder, I wonder where

674
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,960
he's finding these people. Really, I mean, it seems that

675
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,559
seems amazing in the modern world that you'd have a

676
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,960
class of younger millennials who are ready to take on

677
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:19,960
high office that are that that are you know, uh

678
00:41:20,199 --> 00:41:23,119
kind of available to an incoming president like Trump.

679
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The I mean, you got Mark Marco Rubio for

680
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,360
what anybody that wants to say, it's Tulcy Gabbard, Tlsey's uh,

681
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:35,679
you know late gen X. Matt gets is a millennial.

682
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,840
A lot of these people are his. The the sect

683
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,480
f is is I think a gen X. So yeah,

684
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,039
Christy nome is is gen X. I mean, so there's

685
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,639
this is turning out to be a lot younger. But

686
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,199
one of the things that you know, people on the

687
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,519
right really come down to is a lot of people,

688
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:05,800
especially people that we're you and I deal with, are

689
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,840
very anti zionist. And so you know, the question is

690
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,519
Mariam Adelson gives a one hundred million dollars, Well, she

691
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:17,119
didn't give a hundred million dollars. She pledged one hundred

692
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,599
million dollars. She gave thirty four million dollars. Timothy Mellon,

693
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,840
who is if you know the name Melon, if you

694
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,079
recognize that, you will know heritage America I mean old

695
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:33,320
school Carnegie Mellon yea, yeah, exactly. He gave one hundred

696
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,840
and seventy million dollars. And then there's the one person

697
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:43,119
that everybody forgets about, Elon Musk. Elon Musk probably gave

698
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,920
upwards of a billion dollars or Gay you know, was

699
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,880
able to raise upwards of a billion dollars. So when

700
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,639
people are looking at who he's you know, it's like, oh,

701
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,199
well this zionist, and that's zionist and this scionist, it's

702
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,599
like he has to take into consideration there. He may

703
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,400
be putting those people there for a reason, Like I

704
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,119
don't think Marco Rubio is Secretary of State because he's

705
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:14,519
going to they don't want war. I mean he already

706
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,360
Trump proved that in his first term. Marco Rubio is

707
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,599
there because what is the biggest fucking what is the

708
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,920
goal that he set out to do? Deportations? Deportations to

709
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,880
Latin American countries. Marco Rubio is Latin, He's loved in

710
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,480
Latin America. He speaks Spanish, he hates Communists, and he's

711
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,159
a hard ass with no heart. Who if he sees

712
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:43,599
a little Spanish, you know, Hispanic kid crying, he's not

713
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:47,639
going to care. It seems like he's there. Everybody thinks that, oh,

714
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:50,039
Secretary of State, it's all about war and everything. No,

715
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,599
it's about having to deal with other states when you do.

716
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,119
And if he is going to carry out this gigantic

717
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,800
freaking deportation thing, you're going to need somebody who can

718
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,599
speak to the frigging countries that he's sending these people

719
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,159
back to. I don't think Marco Rubio is there for

720
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,079
anything about foreign policy and war and war policy. Heck,

721
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:14,159
I I agree with my friend Tom Lauwongo. I think that,

722
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,079
like almost immediately, there is going to be a packed

723
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,960
made with made with Russia and made with Iran, and

724
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,639
they're going to tell Israel you can do whatever you want,

725
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,159
but we're not going to fucking do We're not going

726
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,320
to fight this. Anyone who is every trial, we know

727
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,199
we can't want to. You're not going to fight a

728
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,480
war with Russia in the first place. And anyone who

729
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:35,039
studied Iran knows you can't win a war with Iran.

730
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,960
It would take you two years to even start to

731
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
stage a war with Iran, and then they're staging a

732
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,880
war for two years at the same time. So it's like,

733
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,079
this is people who think that there's going to be this,

734
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,760
they're out of their fucking minds and I'm fucking sick

735
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,400
of hearing it.

736
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, And that's that's kind of what I hope to

737
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:57,079
see from the Trump administration is I really want that

738
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,800
these these these horrible wars to be de escalated and ended.

739
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,519
I don't know how much of the I'll end the

740
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:12,639
Ukrainian War was sort of Trump being bracketocious, but I

741
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:16,519
think that maybe, you know, if there was a face

742
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:20,119
saving deal put on Putin's plate, we could end this

743
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719
war and it would say a hell of a lot

744
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,639
of the Ukrainian lives and Russian lives for that matter.

745
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:29,880
I mean, just just saying that kind of huge waste

746
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:35,760
is just heartbreaking, and you know it will involve kind

747
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,119
of acknowledging a multipolar world, but that just acknowledging reality

748
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:39,840
at this stage.

749
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,679
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be. It's going to be in Monroe doctrine. Yeah,

750
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:48,159
where certain certain places are going to have over We're

751
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:54,159
going to have overrepresentation, in in influence in certain parts

752
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:55,840
of the world. We'll have it in our part of

753
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,039
the world. Let Russian China fight it out over there.

754
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,639
And that's just the way it's going to be. It's

755
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:04,199
the only way. And when you have all these people

756
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:06,159
who are coming in like an Elon Musk and all

757
00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:10,159
these people who are influencing him, who have minds for this,

758
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,760
and who are also we have to remember Trump's a businessman.

759
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,679
He knows that war. He knows war isn't good for

760
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,719
the business of the country. Yeah, it's good for a

761
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,880
few companies. It's not even good for banks because they

762
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,320
lend to the other fucking they lend to everybody. But

763
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,039
I hope they're not going to get paid back somehow.

764
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:29,079
Speaker 2: And what I hope Trump also realizes is that Putin

765
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:31,679
is looking for a face saving way to get out

766
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,039
of this mess. I don't think the war went as

767
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:36,239
well as Putin thought it would. It certainly didn't go

768
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:41,000
as well as John Bolton thought it would. And I

769
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:43,599
think that he realizes, kind of like Krusachev in the

770
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:47,519
Cuban missile crisis, that if he has a way to say, like,

771
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:51,079
look we kind of won, you know, then this war

772
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,960
can be de escalated. And you know, maybe I don't

773
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,039
actually understand it in Yah, He's psychology to me that

774
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:01,360
in Yahoo. Just just I feel like I understand putin

775
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,760
a lot more than I understand it in Yahoo. And

776
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,440
and it just it just feels like the whole Middle

777
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,400
East it always feels like a madhouse when I look

778
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,480
at it, like I can't. I think I must have

779
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:13,440
too much of a I feel like the Ukrainian war

780
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:17,079
is much more persival, and for that reason, it seems

781
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:19,480
much more preventable. But it just seems like the Middle

782
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,679
East is always just a bunch of lunatics that are

783
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:28,519
you know, they're trying to get themselves into trouble, and

784
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,920
I don't want any part of it. That's obviously. I mean,

785
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,639
I don't know. I mean, like the question is, you know,

786
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Trump's foreign policy. The success of his foreign policy will

787
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:43,679
largely be viewed on his ability to successfully unspool the

788
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,119
messes that have been created over the last four years,

789
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,760
and if you can unspool those messes and clear up

790
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,239
the shipping lanes, then you know, I think everything is

791
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,920
going to kind of roll back into place. I mean, look,

792
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:02,000
the economy is difficult, right, but at least part of this,

793
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:06,760
the horrible economy we've experienced over the last three years,

794
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,639
has been a completely destabilized geopolitical environment.

795
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: I think Trump understands that Putin has to save face,

796
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,079
and I think he's willing to let him. And it's

797
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:29,119
from history. After Trump's stupidly assassinated Solomony, which was probably

798
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:32,920
some kind of internal Iranian intrigue that wanted to get

799
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:38,840
rid of Solomony and set that up. He most people

800
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,280
don't remember this, but Iran fired rockets at an American

801
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,440
base in Iraq as a as a retaliation. And I

802
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,840
don't know that they I don't remember that they killed anybody.

803
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,599
Somebody may have gotten hurt. But Trump even said, and

804
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:56,679
you can go find this. He said, yeah, they had

805
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,239
to save face. And so that lets me know that

806
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,800
Trump understands how the game is played. Also, I know

807
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,840
he's been bellicost to Iran. He got out of the

808
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,920
Iran deal he jettisoned the JCPOA if he can just

809
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,400
I don't think Iran wants war. I think Iran just

810
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,079
wants to be Iran. I mean they haven't but they

811
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:24,800
haven't invaded anybody in over a thousand years something like that.

812
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,159
I mean, they haven't attacked anybody in over a thousand years.

813
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,000
I always they want war.

814
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,159
Speaker 2: It always felt to me like Iran was. It was

815
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,360
just like the stupidest of all the boogeymen. You could imagine.

816
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,039
Iran is like what is this? Like, you know, is

817
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:43,199
this the Iron Age? Is a thermopylae? Like when has

818
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,880
Iran ever been like on the verge of invading the West.

819
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:52,159
It's it's not something that that even seems plausible. And

820
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,639
Iran was always just like this the weirdest villain for

821
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,440
these people. I think they that's like the Neo consist

822
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:01,840
wandedville and in Iran was the one closest to hand

823
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,400
and then they could just never get let go of it.

824
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Yes, so I think that he's going to definitely come

825
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,159
to bring the Ukraine thing to to an end. I

826
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:15,760
don't know if it's going to happen on day one,

827
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,280
but it'll definitely it'll definitely happen, and Russia is going

828
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,639
to have to take take the part that they wanted

829
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,360
right from the start, and it belongs to them. Those

830
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,840
people want to be part of Russia. So these these

831
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,039
neo kon scum, you know who, they can fuck themselves.

832
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:35,480
But I think with Iran, I think he's just going

833
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:37,719
to it's going to be like a stalemate thing where

834
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
it's just going to be a stalemate. Every once in

835
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:43,320
a while we'll hear about Iran, oh, Iran's you know,

836
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:47,079
the whole whole net you thing, they're two weeks away

837
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:51,280
from getting a nuke, and it'll just fade into the background,

838
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:57,920
and then it's just a matter of fuck Israel bombing

839
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:02,079
every one of their friggin neighbors and how that ends,

840
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,400
how that comes to, you know, and we shouldn't have

841
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,719
any friggin part of that. There's no reason. I mean,

842
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,800
I can understand that Trump may want to be like

843
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,280
the one who sweeps in and says, you know, and

844
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,159
it's like, oh, look at the deal I made. You know,

845
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,159
I'm the art of the deal. I'm the deal maker.

846
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:23,440
But you know, I honestly, I don't think people realize

847
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,760
that net and Yahoo and Trump do not like each other.

848
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:30,239
They used to get along, and they do not like

849
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:30,760
each other.

850
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:35,159
Speaker 2: I'm going to kind of attempt the being radical on

851
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,239
this show. I just don't think that this is a

852
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,119
good way to administrate this area. I think this whole

853
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:46,719
Israel thing, like, it's fine if Jews and Muslims stay

854
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,079
where they are right now, but we can't just have

855
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,079
like this big state where they're like, well, we're basically

856
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:56,039
like a European state in the Middle East that these

857
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,079
this region of the worlds.

858
00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: They were a European state, it would be perfectly fun

859
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:02,320
if they were. If they were a global if they

860
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,079
were another global homo state, this wouldn't be a problem.

861
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,920
The fact is is they're not a European state. They're

862
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,559
a freaking ethno state. No matter how many, Oh they

863
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:13,199
have eight Arabs in the kinestic go fuck yourself, and

864
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:13,760
I mean.

865
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean I mean they I mean, I mean they

866
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,400
have twenty. I mean I mean European is sort of

867
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,480
like the nineteenth century Westphalian secte, right, yeah, yeah, I

868
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,360
mean like if they were a European state in the

869
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,119
modern variety, then all the Palestines would have moved right

870
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,000
back in and half the Middle East would have moved

871
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:31,760
to them by now, and they would be like a

872
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,360
majority Muslim and they would exist as a Jewish state.

873
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,199
So if they were a modern European state, then that

874
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,360
but the whole like Westphalian state in the Middle East

875
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,119
doesn't work because the Middle East is a constant real

876
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,840
estate battle between these various religious groups, none of which

877
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,519
are large enough to assert control over a region or

878
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,559
to grant minority rights. So the only way I think

879
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,079
to administrate it is just to have like little micro states,

880
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,239
and like there could be like little Jewish patches and

881
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,239
little Muslim patches, and then just have the holy sites

882
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,559
administrated by some centralized figure like a king, and then

883
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,519
the job of the administration, which it would be, just

884
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,199
be to keep the peace between the little patches. I

885
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,199
think that's that's sort of I mean, that's not exactly

886
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,679
how the Ottomans did it, but it's closer to how

887
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,800
the Ottomans manage this regions region than before. And to

888
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,320
my mind, that's the only thing that works. I don't

889
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:34,400
see how the international world is stable by having Israel

890
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,000
and its neighbors constantly go to war every ten years.

891
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,880
This seems to be just It seems like we're constantly

892
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,239
skirting up against a huge worldwide conflagration and that doesn't

893
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,559
seem to be like a very good use of resources.

894
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: Well, it's been in both October seventh. Again, one thing

895
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,840
that I've been tracking since October seventh, and I said

896
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,800
it almost immediately, was there's a left Jewish and a

897
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,519
right Jewish civil war going on. Yeah, and it's definitely

898
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,360
you obviously you can see it in the United States,

899
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,320
but it was really coming to a head. It was

900
00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:18,800
it was coming to a head in it was before

901
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,679
October seventh. I mean, this has been happening for a while,

902
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:29,360
but October seventh magnified it overseas because the reaction by

903
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:33,559
Israel and everything that, you know, the the bombing campaigns,

904
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,920
the every there's an excuse for I mean, there's always

905
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:41,159
a friggin terrorist hiding under you know, an apartment complex

906
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,840
of twenty eight hundred people that needs to be killed.

907
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,880
And for some reason, Americans are completely okay with civilian

908
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,039
deaths when it comes as long as Jews are doing

909
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:56,920
it so or if we're doing it. But but I

910
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,719
repeat myself the so you know, my whole thing is

911
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,079
now it seemed like there was because of the war

912
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,960
and what happens. On October seventh, there was some kind

913
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,480
of compact that was happening with left right in Israel.

914
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:15,760
But as time has gone by and this is worn

915
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,599
on and two million people have left the country, you're

916
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:22,320
seeing this split back again. And I mean, I really

917
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,039
think that what is going to end up happening is

918
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,159
and I've been predicting this for a while, and it

919
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,039
just seems like it could happen. It seems more likely

920
00:55:32,119 --> 00:55:35,239
every day is is that the left is going to

921
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,960
win that war. The Left is going to win out.

922
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,559
Lakud is going to be put down in some way

923
00:55:43,039 --> 00:55:45,559
as soon as this war ends in all hostilities, net

924
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,000
Yahoo's going to jail or he's going to be hung.

925
00:55:48,639 --> 00:55:50,559
I mean, that's that's what was going to happen before

926
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:53,599
October seventh happened. They were he was going to jail

927
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,199
for corruption. And the longer this war goes on, that's

928
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:01,559
why he doesn't want the hostages rescued. He doesn't want

929
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,800
a cease fire. He wants this thing to keep going

930
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,880
because it's it's his only legacy, his only he has

931
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,719
one son who's gay, so he has no legacy to

932
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,599
speak of. As far as you know, his his lineage

933
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,079
that he's passing on. His only legacy is Israel. And

934
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,599
if the left in you know, they called tel Aviv

935
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:26,159
the gayest city in the world. If that left, if

936
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:31,159
that left coalition overtakes Israel and basically turns it into

937
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:38,599
a modern European state, then that's then we have our problem.

938
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,000
Is our problem is solved?

939
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, I I I am technically completely unaffiliated with either

940
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:49,519
side in this war. But that would end Israel for sure.

941
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:53,360
I'm not so sure. It might trigger another war though, right, Uh,

942
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,559
Israel goes down the whole. I mean, I mean it

943
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,719
would cause demographic disruption that would would eventually destroy the state.

944
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,880
And uh, you know, I I guess that doesn't get

945
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,079
me back to my based patchwork idea for managing the

946
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:14,199
Middle East. But but but it would I don't know.

947
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:18,119
I kind of don't like to see any people destroying themselves,

948
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,039
and so I really hope that they try to come

949
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,320
to some way that everyone can live in their own

950
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,840
little bubbles and not have to constantly declare word with

951
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,000
each other. But you know, I think that just this

952
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,559
this sort of this this this coalition, this power coalition

953
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:38,760
is just addicted to having their cake and eating it too,

954
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,159
and they can't. They can't have half of it. They

955
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:45,360
have to have all of it, and they have and

956
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,559
they have they have to have special rules, they have

957
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,920
to have special rules. And so yeah, I mean, we'll

958
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,639
see what happens. I mean I think that really though,

959
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,719
like the struggle for the future of the world is

960
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,960
going to be in North America, not in the Middle East.

961
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:02,559
And because I think ultimately it's the State Department and

962
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,920
Corporate America and Silicon Valley and the media apparatus is

963
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,920
here that will filter down. And if the left, if

964
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,079
America does not want the left to come into power

965
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:18,039
in Israel, they have enough allies in Israel to prevent

966
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:21,440
that from happening one way, shape or form. Right. So

967
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,599
not that I really care what happens in Israel in

968
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:29,880
immediate sense, other than the general humanitarian concern of wanting

969
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,519
people not to kill themselves and wanting cultures not to

970
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:39,159
be destroyed of any people's Uh, the big, the big

971
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,480
battle is going to be in North America. This is

972
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:43,920
what determines how the rest of the world is going

973
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:50,599
to be managed. And whoever controls the media in North America,

974
00:58:50,639 --> 00:58:54,280
whoever controls people's hearts and minds across the rest of

975
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,199
the world, will be the people that decides the destiny

976
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,840
of how we're going to govern our cells globe. And

977
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,159
this is where we are right now. Right There's going

978
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:06,480
to be a battle in the short term between the

979
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:10,199
right wing and then neocons in Trump's first administration, and

980
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,280
then we're going to get probably about a one year

981
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,400
reprieve from any kind of organized true left resistance. And

982
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,679
then I assume after one year they'll solve their narrative

983
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,480
problems and get back on the scene, But I don't know,

984
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:29,400
like they could be. The crippling qualities of their coalition

985
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,159
might be deeper than that. It might take them a

986
00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:35,880
decade to get back online, even though that's hard to imagine.

987
00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:40,719
And you know, for us, the goal right now is

988
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,599
to do as much expansion as humanly possible, to figure

989
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:47,199
out who our allies are, who are our non enemies,

990
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,920
and what are the critical choke points for our enemies

991
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,639
to come back at us. So Trump needs to essentially

992
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,559
lock down the electoral system, make sure nothing like twenty

993
00:59:58,639 --> 01:00:02,280
twenty can ever happen again, get the immigration under control,

994
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,320
especially the illegal variety, and then well, this is my

995
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,639
first priority. Then he needs to take on the educational institutions.

996
01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:15,679
And I think that he could use divisions in the alliance,

997
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,039
the right wing Jewish and left wing Jewish Alliance. He

998
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:21,599
could use divisions and that to get what he wants.

999
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,599
For our purposes here, we want entirely separate institutions. For

1000
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:29,920
Trump's purposes, I think he'll settle for like guarantees that

1001
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,840
they won't be cuckoo crazy in the universities. And that's

1002
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,559
what his sort of I don't want to say Jewish,

1003
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:41,400
but you know, his sort of X leftist lest the

1004
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,480
X progresses, the ex moderate progresses that left in October seventh.

1005
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,679
They want him to just pass rules about how you

1006
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,719
can't be crazy on campuses. What we need to push

1007
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,880
for and what needs to be the compromise is that

1008
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:57,760
we get our well, we get a separate educational system

1009
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:04,039
that is governed independent of the ordinary educational apparatus, and

1010
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:09,119
that has guaranteed credentialing under certain objective standards, and that

1011
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:12,559
can be independently administrated at least from the state level,

1012
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,599
but preferably through private entities as well, in a sort

1013
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:18,679
of land grant system. The Department of education needs to

1014
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,119
go down. I think Trump's been toying with that, right,

1015
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,119
like the primary and secondary education. That needs to be

1016
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:27,400
a reset and all his energy needs to go in there.

1017
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,199
And if he does those things, then the entire political

1018
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,840
face of America could be changed going forward. There could

1019
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,000
be a new way of processing power in America and

1020
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:43,199
a new avenue for power, and that has the potential

1021
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:45,440
for creating a seed change that could permanently break the

1022
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,400
Progressive coalition.

1023
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm glad you went there, because that's where I wanted

1024
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:59,280
to end with. Is you seem to imply that because

1025
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:04,840
the because of what's happened since October seventh, the Zionist

1026
01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:09,199
the Zionist Jews in this country have been on the

1027
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,760
attack of taking down going after the educational institutions. Now,

1028
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:18,960
they never they never mentioned the fact that I've heard

1029
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:25,000
Rufo talk about how, oh how successful Jews have been

1030
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:28,960
in academia in this country and everything. And It's like, Okay, well,

1031
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:34,559
what does successful mean? I mean, what kind of is

1032
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:38,519
successful in putting what kind of curriculum in there? So

1033
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,760
are you saying that you are they useful at this point?

1034
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,320
Because to me, the way I look at it is

1035
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,079
if it's going to be America first and it's going

1036
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,960
to make America great again, we're going to have to

1037
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:57,480
do everything we can to try to push the narrative

1038
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:03,239
that Trump has to stay. Try it's going to be

1039
01:03:03,559 --> 01:03:06,480
it's impossible to do it one hundred percent, but to

1040
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,920
get as much Zionist influence, keep as much Zionist influence

1041
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:13,519
away from him as possible.

1042
01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: Well, because I mean, he's he's going to try to compromise, right,

1043
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,719
He's going to try to do half and half, right.

1044
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,679
I think that's just what's going to happen, right.

1045
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:24,679
Speaker 1: I think I think at this point I'll take half

1046
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,960
in half. Yeah, I mean, because it's the best you can.

1047
01:03:28,039 --> 01:03:29,920
It's better than one hundred percent. And I don't think

1048
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,360
one hundred percent is on the table. I think the

1049
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,079
people who are screaming that, oh, because of Marian Anderson's

1050
01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:38,960
hundred million, thirty four million, thirty four million doesn't get

1051
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,079
you a friggin It doesn't get you a sit down

1052
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:43,920
with Jamie Diamon at friggin JP Morgan Chase, so you know,

1053
01:03:44,239 --> 01:03:47,119
he doesn't know your name. So I don't think that

1054
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:49,480
thirty four million is important. I think it's just what

1055
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:55,679
his natural sympathies are, and the best we can hope

1056
01:03:55,679 --> 01:03:58,719
for is that he's one of these. I've said that

1057
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:04,760
I believe he loves the Jewish people, but I don't

1058
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,440
see him like being so much of a quote unquote

1059
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:11,800
Zionist that he would start a war. I think you're

1060
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,239
like moving the capital of Jerusalem, which is just absolutely

1061
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,880
insane kind of thing. I think that was because oh,

1062
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,880
I like Jews, and Jews want this, and I'm going

1063
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,639
to do this for Jews. I don't think it's because

1064
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:27,440
he's some raving Zionists, because he's like, oh, Israel needs.

1065
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,519
Speaker 2: To He saw this, and you know, if you didn't

1066
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,960
know the finer points of that conflict, it wouldn't be

1067
01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:36,559
immediately apparent to somebody. Why that was big to me.

1068
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:40,559
I think that he saw that a salutary like, oh,

1069
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:42,199
you know, this is just something. This is just like

1070
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,519
changing the colors on the on on on our on

1071
01:04:45,639 --> 01:04:48,280
our logo and now they like us. It's like, this

1072
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,840
is this is cheap virtue. And he just like, and

1073
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,920
you know, rich people, they're always looking out for those

1074
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,360
cheap those free lottery tickets, right, the things that you

1075
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,679
can do for very low cost to yourself that have

1076
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,360
huge pact on your counterparty's opinion of you, and he

1077
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,800
he presumed that that was one of them. Right. I'm

1078
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,559
thinking about how the education thing is going to play out.

1079
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:13,360
That's that's, you know, other than the immigration and the

1080
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,880
voting security, which is not really my area of expertise.

1081
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:19,599
And it's more more or less straightforward. You either do

1082
01:05:19,719 --> 01:05:23,920
it or you don't. Uh. The education is going to

1083
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,159
be the biggest sticking point.

1084
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:30,199
Speaker 1: That's the last domino to fall the woke.

1085
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: I wonder how we could do it. Yeah, I mean,

1086
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,639
maybe you could just make universities ungovernable by having you know,

1087
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,639
the sort of you know, pro zionist anti zionist forces

1088
01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:43,239
kind of tear the baby apart and then kind of

1089
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,400
on the side build a new thing. That's kind of

1090
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,159
my hope is that, you know, the the star sneaches

1091
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:53,119
and the unstars snatches are kind of just battle battle

1092
01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:54,920
it out while we walk away with all the money.

1093
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,519
It will be if you know, the reference to the

1094
01:05:57,599 --> 01:05:58,599
doctor Seuss thing.

1095
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:05,519
Speaker 1: He hasn't he hasn't done a he hasn't appointed anyone

1096
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:07,760
over the Department of Education yet.

1097
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: I heard you might get rid of it. Is that

1098
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,559
a possibility.

1099
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,519
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but he'd probably have to appoint someone to

1100
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:17,360
dismantle it, Okay, and that's where that's where it is.

1101
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,559
I mean, that's what I've heard about. What a possibility

1102
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:25,119
for the FBI as well. But the and not so

1103
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:27,440
much that the FBI would disappear, that the FBI would

1104
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,960
just become something different. But it seems to me that

1105
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:35,039
if you appointed someone at a Department of Education who

1106
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:39,119
was just I mean somebody who is like mac Gates

1107
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,719
is where he is to basically prosecute Trump's enemies. That's

1108
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,719
exactly why he was put there. And that's exactly why

1109
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,400
Trump's lawyer is there now too. If you put someone

1110
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,280
at Department of Education who was like, okay, you do this, this, this,

1111
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,440
or we seize your endowments, then you start down the road.

1112
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:00,719
I mean, you see one, if one college has endowments,

1113
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,239
like if you take Harvard's endowments, which is in the

1114
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,920
I mean the billions, it's they could run. I saw

1115
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,760
a number of said for fifteen years they could run

1116
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,280
with not even taking tuition and they could pay everyone

1117
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,639
and everything. And if you take that from one college,

1118
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,920
like do that at Harvard, everyone else is going to

1119
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,000
fall in line. So I mean, you just really need

1120
01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:28,400
to make you know that. I think you make an

1121
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,960
example out of one and everyone else falls in line.

1122
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,039
I think you might need to do something that radical.

1123
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:37,960
I mean, the first time around, Betsy de Vos was

1124
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:40,320
not going to be that radical. If you're just for

1125
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,239
school choice, Okay, school choice is great, but that doesn't

1126
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,079
solve the problem. The problem is still that people are

1127
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:50,800
going people are putting their kids into schools that are

1128
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,719
turning amidst a little progressive soldiers. And that has to

1129
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:59,639
be that. I mean, to be honest about Higher.

1130
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: ED, it to be honest, all has to go down,

1131
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,960
like ideally it would all just be the whole system

1132
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:09,159
is just corrupt to the core right. I mean, like

1133
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,800
school choice is not really the answer, and it's it's

1134
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,440
not you know, school choice is a primary school, secondary

1135
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,359
school thing. It's not it's not a university higher ED thing.

1136
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:27,000
So the the the the the Higher ED problem is

1137
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:32,520
the main problem. Trying to get them to behave is

1138
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,199
going to be impossible because these people do not believe

1139
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:38,600
that they that the government has authority over them. So

1140
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,119
simply seizing the adowments, I mean sure the admins would

1141
01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:45,640
fall in line, the provosts would fall in line, but

1142
01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:49,000
none of their admins would because their admins are under

1143
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:53,840
the impression that they're totally independent operators that have academic freedom.

1144
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,760
And so whoever has to reign in the universities is

1145
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:03,800
inheriting a nightmare. Either that nightmare be inherited by uh

1146
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,560
somebody who you know, they can they can try to

1147
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,039
untie the Gordian knot while we, well, we do something else,

1148
01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:14,960
or what well, another people another, another set of people

1149
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,439
do something else, right, could create a new set of

1150
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,920
universities with new employees. That's because you're never going to

1151
01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:23,800
untangle the university system. I just don't think it's reformable,

1152
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,199
Like you could take it down and move the money away.

1153
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,319
And I know that's not politically feasible to just like say, oh, hey,

1154
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:33,239
the university systems are done, because that's a huge cash

1155
01:09:33,319 --> 01:09:37,479
cow with all this foreign money coming into it. And

1156
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,479
but but restructuring the universities so that all so that

1157
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,640
there's new ones that absorb all their useful elements. This

1158
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,000
has to be done all together. And you know, I'm

1159
01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:49,840
kind of in the Jarvin camp on that one.

1160
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:56,079
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I think that that reform

1161
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:59,279
at this point is it's like the FBI. You're not

1162
01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:01,359
going to reform the FBI. You're just going to have

1163
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,039
to You're going to have to dismantle it in someone.

1164
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:06,079
Speaker 2: Build a new one, and then I think staff it

1165
01:10:06,119 --> 01:10:08,399
with your own guys, and then move the assets over

1166
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,640
that you think are necessary to make that job possible. Right.

1167
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: Well, I think one plan that I heard was is

1168
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,960
you get rid of the j. Edgar Hoover Building and

1169
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:21,600
then you just have you have your field offices. And

1170
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,600
if you and you make your employees become police. They

1171
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,520
have to go out there and they have to find

1172
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,520
murderers and serial killers and and cartel members and all

1173
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,399
these things. They have to be able to you force

1174
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,239
them to earn their pay, and you're going to have

1175
01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:43,560
you'll probably have sixty to seventy percent quick. Yeah, So

1176
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,880
I mean, yeah, you just you know, I think it

1177
01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:50,960
was cash Patel who said that. You know, basically, what

1178
01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:52,960
when you have the JEDR. Hoover Building, what you have

1179
01:10:53,119 --> 01:10:55,039
is you have a bunch of career employees who all

1180
01:10:55,079 --> 01:10:58,600
they care about is their next is their next raise,

1181
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,560
is getting their next raise in their next promotion. So

1182
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,880
you have to take that incentive. You have to make

1183
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,279
that incentive that's based upon performance and and performance in

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the field, and so all this stuff can be cut back.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, famously we've heard the State Department

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doesn't even need to exist anymore. It could be the

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president on zoom with three of his advisors, you know.

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So hopefully this is some of the some of these

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things are looking to happen, because when I see Gates

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being put there, what that tells me is somebody who

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has been framed into, oh, trafficking, He's been trafficking seventeen

1193
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year old, I mean completely framed. Ryan Dawson today just

1194
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is is doing a stream telling you who the actual

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traffickers are in the in this. He's like naming names

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of the people who framed Matt Gates for this. And

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I think Matt Gates has enough of a chip on

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his shoulder that he's going to do whatever Trump's Trump says, well,

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take this down, take this down, or you know you

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01:12:06,319 --> 01:12:08,680
have if you have someone like Elon and Vivek who

1201
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,399
are in this, you know, in doge this new thing,

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and they're like, Okay, this is who we need to

1203
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go after next. I mean, I think they just put

1204
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a pit bull, They just put a pit bull at

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01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:23,359
age at AG and he just goes after all of

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01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,760
our you know, all of our enemies. And when I

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say hour, I'm not talking about like the quote unquote dissident, right,

1208
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:34,199
what the hell that is? But Americans, the Americans enemies,

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you know, and and seeks to take them down. And

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is it is it a tall task? Sure? Is it

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,600
going to happen? Who the fuck knows. But at least

1212
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it looks right now like there are plans being made

1213
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to do that, because I saw that at uh an

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,079
interview today and people at the Department of Justice are

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01:12:53,159 --> 01:12:54,159
shipping their pants.

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Speaker 2: They're yeah, they're quitting, They're quitting. This is amazing. This

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is exactly what you want, right.

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Speaker 1: All you have to do is put some psychopath like

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Gates in there, you know, somebody who like gets interviewed

1220
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and they asked them, they said, you said that the

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women who go to these marches are fat and nobody

1222
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,840
wants to have nobody wants to have sex with them.

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Do you stand by that? Yes, you know, he's like

1224
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,760
he just doesn't give a fuck yet, And it's nice

1225
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,800
to see that. And that's the kind of thing that

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,880
you know, it just needs to be carried through.

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Speaker 2: It has to be and there's so many opportunities to

1228
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,239
Like there's one people have FEMA who were saying that

1229
01:13:32,279 --> 01:13:35,159
they wouldn't support Trump people, they wouldn't give aid to them,

1230
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like these are avenues for corruption investigations, right.

1231
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're and here's the thing. Another thing is

1232
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,520
these people just panted the targets on their back. It's

1233
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,119
not like you have to go looking for them. They're

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01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:54,159
right there. You know who they are. And you know

1235
01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:58,840
it's talking about my friend Luongo again. He said, you know,

1236
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,840
you march into an awe and you say you're fired,

1237
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,199
You're fired, Your fed, your fired, you're fired. You two

1238
01:14:05,119 --> 01:14:08,079
stay there because we're going to go over what you've

1239
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:10,560
been doing and where are the fucking files? Yeah, because

1240
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,479
I'm right now. What I'm scared is is that the biggest,

1241
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,800
the biggest digital bonfire in the history of mankind is

1242
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going on.

1243
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, they're zeroing out some Yeah. The sound

1244
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:29,560
you hear is hard drives rapidly zeroing out and defragmenting themselves.

1245
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:36,119
Everything's going to zero. Yeah. Heard races are going on

1246
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:39,680
currently at the DJ and I don't know, we'll well,

1247
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,840
we'll see this is it's kind of amazing. I kind

1248
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,680
of almost think, how could how could they let this happen?

1249
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,359
I guess do they have any more tricks up their sleeve?

1250
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:52,359
I mean, if Trump, if Trump's sure is to go

1251
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,960
in the direction that he's going, then and he has,

1252
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,960
you know, an attorney general and head of the justice

1253
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,479
apartments that are that are lined up to clean house,

1254
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:08,039
He's going to. Now the sky's the limit with what

1255
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:10,000
the damage you could do to the deep state.

1256
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: Oh and and another thing that people are not going

1257
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:20,000
to if you're if you don't follow finance and SEC

1258
01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:24,840
and things. He's appointing Jay Clayton, who's a former SEC.

1259
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:32,159
It's basically his guy as the attorney, the US attorney

1260
01:15:32,199 --> 01:15:35,880
for the Southern District of New York. And this guy

1261
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:39,840
is he's Trump's guy. He is anyone who knows what

1262
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,319
the Southern District of New York is is, it's basically

1263
01:15:43,359 --> 01:15:47,880
the police of Wall Street. And what I think is

1264
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,279
going to happen, because I've been following what Jerome Powell

1265
01:15:51,319 --> 01:15:53,960
has been doing at the FED is it looks like

1266
01:15:54,119 --> 01:15:59,000
there may be if if Clayton is in there, he'll

1267
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:02,800
probably go after the foreign the banks that have too

1268
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:08,600
much foreign influence on on on Wall Street. He'll leave

1269
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,800
JP Morgan alone, He'll leave his He'll leave the people

1270
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,520
who are friendly with what Jerome Palell has been doing

1271
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,159
at the FED for the last three years, basically going

1272
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:23,039
to war with the euro dollar and the Eurozone. And so,

1273
01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:26,359
I mean, there's things that a lot of people don't see.

1274
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:29,760
But because I'm so deep into so many frigging corners

1275
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,800
of the corners of policy, that I'm seeing things that

1276
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,119
other people aren't seeing. And I mean, this looks like

1277
01:16:37,279 --> 01:16:40,640
it's an all out fucking war on the on the

1278
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,680
home front. And I think, and I also think a

1279
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,880
lot of those initial picks for foreign policy were to

1280
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:53,000
get people concentrating on that and arguing over that. And

1281
01:16:53,079 --> 01:16:55,960
then he starts bringing in all these people domestically, and

1282
01:16:56,119 --> 01:16:58,399
sure Gates is going to cause some problems, But then

1283
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960
he sneaks in his personal lawyer is to be deputy

1284
01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:03,359
to Gates, so that if Gates doesn't make it in,

1285
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,880
this guy slides right in there. And this guy's more

1286
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,039
of a fucking pitbull than Gates is. So it's like,

1287
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,680
I think there's a lot happening and I mean, I'm

1288
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,600
not going to I can't allow myself to become to

1289
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,000
Pollyanna about anything because that's just not in my nature.

1290
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,920
But a lot of what I've been seeing, especially over

1291
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,680
the last year, seems to be coming to fruition. And

1292
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:30,600
I think a lot of people are allowing themselves, even

1293
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,800
people who've been listening to me talk about these things,

1294
01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:39,319
are allowing themselves to be distracted because of their anti

1295
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:45,399
Zionism and not wanting to get our greatest, our greatest

1296
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,319
allies influence away from us and not be our greatest

1297
01:17:48,399 --> 01:17:51,439
ally anymore. Just be you know, I've said this all along.

1298
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,640
There's no reason like we should even know that Israel exists.

1299
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,319
This is this tiny little country in the Middle East.

1300
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,159
I did no on nine to eleven. I didn't know

1301
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:06,880
Cutter was a country. I mean, that's how fucking clueless

1302
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,840
I was. I had never heard of Cutter. I didn't

1303
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,880
know what the United Arab Emirates was. These were countries

1304
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,840
that didn't mean anything and should never mean anything.

1305
01:18:17,239 --> 01:18:19,520
Speaker 2: Having less with Armenia, and there is an Armenian I

1306
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,920
think cleansing, like just earlier this year, noone cared about it, right,

1307
01:18:23,319 --> 01:18:24,039
It just happened.

1308
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who and who armed divers are by Jean

1309
01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:28,520
to do that?

1310
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I really I would have guessed Iran, right,

1311
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:42,279
but it was it was huh, that's that's spicy. That's spicy.

1312
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:44,359
I would have I would have assumed it was Iran.

1313
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,920
But you learn something every day, I guess, don't you.

1314
01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:53,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let you go. Thank you, Thank you for

1315
01:18:53,279 --> 01:18:57,720
your time. Please plug point people in the direction they

1316
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,479
can read your work, and of course please go read

1317
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,880
and listen to Dave because you're going to learn something

1318
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:04,279
every time.

1319
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I blog at Substack at fiddler Litters from

1320
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:12,359
Fiddler's Green, and I have a YouTube channel and podcast

1321
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,199
called The Distributist that is on YouTube. You can find

1322
01:19:16,279 --> 01:19:19,439
me there. And thanks for having me on Pete. A

1323
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,119
lot of speculation this time, and I'm feeling very very

1324
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:27,039
cautious about that, about all the predictions we made. But

1325
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:29,039
it was a lot of fun speculating on what's going

1326
01:19:29,119 --> 01:19:32,840
to come from the second Trump administration, which is really historic.

1327
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Well, my friend Matt says that you know, if you

1328
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,920
don't like to make predictions, that's fine, but when you

1329
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,079
do make predictions, then you at least have skin in

1330
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:43,439
the game.

1331
01:19:44,199 --> 01:19:48,119
Speaker 2: Mm yeah, yeah exactly, Yeah, you can. You can.

1332
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:49,279
Speaker 1: People are going to come back.

1333
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:52,359
Speaker 2: And go, hey, yeah, people be held accountable.

1334
01:19:54,119 --> 01:19:56,520
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I'm I'm not someone who has a

1335
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,359
problem with saying I was wrong, so I don't have

1336
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:01,880
a problem with any of this. So I'll make sure

1337
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,520
to I'll make sure to provide all the links to

1338
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,840
your to your work.

1339
01:20:05,079 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much. Give him the good night.

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Speaker 1: M mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mhm