Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 1: Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of November fourth,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost Season one, episode eighteen Numbers,
Speaker 1: in which Happy Go Lucky, Good Time Hurley becomes Colonel
Speaker 1: Bloody Kurts and we are introduced to the Numbers, which
Speaker 1: are going to be here there, every freaking where, just
Speaker 1: like Roy Kent from now on, now on, and look
Speaker 1: back Flight eight fifteen wink.
Speaker 2: Wink, yep, yeah, look back, We've they've been with us.
Speaker 2: We just stayed out.
Speaker 1: Oh. I was reading on Lostpedia, just reminding myself of
Speaker 1: the whole number lore, and they were getting into the
Speaker 1: fact that people were just doing everything they could with
Speaker 1: these numbers. Viewers, If you multiply this one by that one,
Speaker 1: it's this and that's how many hours this thing took,
Speaker 1: or if you do the square root of this number multiplied.
Speaker 1: But they said you can do anything with them. We understand,
Speaker 1: but we don't think that that's all canon. No, calm down, people,
Speaker 1: calm down. But it was fun. It was super fun.
Speaker 1: I remember at the time to see all the ways
Speaker 1: people were making these numbers significant. So we find out
Speaker 1: in this episode that Hurley can in fact make good
Speaker 1: on his debt to Walt.
Speaker 2: That's right, and have a little pocket teams left over.
Speaker 1: He won the lottery and his worth what is it
Speaker 1: he said to Charlie, like one hundred and eighty six
Speaker 1: million dollars, Yeah, something like that. And among the things
Speaker 1: in his portfolio is Wink Wink, a box company in Tustin, California.
Speaker 1: Which part of a box company?
Speaker 2: Do we know somebody who worn't there? Yeah, every next
Speaker 2: gun acted and there's a sneaker factory. I feel like
Speaker 2: that will come into play at some point.
Speaker 1: It's just all it's all happening. But poor Hurley played
Speaker 1: this particular set of numbers that a fellow inmate of
Speaker 1: a psychiatric institution kept repeating over and over and over.
Speaker 1: So once Hurley got out, he thought, hey, what the heck,
Speaker 1: I'll play those numbers at the lottery and he won,
Speaker 1: and his life quickly went down the toilet because bad
Speaker 1: things happened to everybody around him, not him specific him specifically,
Speaker 1: although he did get or get arrested for being a
Speaker 1: drug dealer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he then he got got out a
Speaker 2: settlement from the city for so he actually made more
Speaker 2: money off of it. Yes, yeah, it's all people around him.
Speaker 2: His grandfather dies, his mom breaks an ankle.
Speaker 1: Bought for her, is burning down right. I just you know,
Speaker 1: have you heard he was in a plane crush, so
Speaker 1: I have heard that. He goes to see this former
Speaker 1: inmate who gave him the numbers in the first place,
Speaker 1: and he freaks out, you shouldn't have used You've let
Speaker 1: them out of the box. You shouldn't use them. And
Speaker 1: then he goes to see this guy's somebody, this guy
Speaker 1: mentioned in like middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Ust yeah, right, He follows this trail, this this thread
Speaker 2: that he's been given by this person, which I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, for him to even like grasp the words
Speaker 2: that that person was saying and trace them to a
Speaker 2: particular place in the outback was kind of well amazing.
Speaker 1: Number one, he was motivated, and number two, he had
Speaker 1: the advantage of TV writers helping him out.
Speaker 2: He did.
Speaker 1: Yes, location scouts were right on it, right.
Speaker 2: I don't think they filmed that part in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, maybe maybe on a computer. Did they do
Speaker 1: that sort of thing yet, because right now you could
Speaker 1: just make that right out of shot beat, you know,
Speaker 1: on a computer, But I don't know anyway.
Speaker 2: But anyway, he tracks down this woman who also is
Speaker 2: involved in the numbers.
Speaker 1: And was the other guy's partner in I guess the military,
Speaker 1: and they both heard these numbers, and this unfortunate soul
Speaker 1: played the numbers on a bean counting contest and won,
Speaker 1: and then again similarly, everything went wrong, including his wife
Speaker 1: losing a leg, and he finally shot himself because you know,
Speaker 1: it's about time something bad happened to him. So Hurley
Speaker 1: is pretty sure these numbers are cursed on the way
Speaker 1: back from Australia, his plane crashes, and would you, under
Speaker 1: the circumstances as spooked as he was, would you get
Speaker 1: on a flight eight fifteen. I don't know that you would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, pay attention.
Speaker 1: He was just cash in and get another ticket. Holy cat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Guess he's just thinking of them as individual numbers and
Speaker 1: not as combinations of numbers. But still but that was.
Speaker 2: A combination of two of the numbers in sequence.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But uh, and uh, he's been it's he's been
Speaker 1: like like Charlie says, you know, happy, go lucky, good
Speaker 1: time early, and so you expected his flashbacks are going
Speaker 1: to be kind of goofy and fun and silly, and
Speaker 1: they're horrifying, right.
Speaker 2: I mean we shouldn't have had that expectation, right, knowing
Speaker 2: what we know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So and then he just sets out to
Speaker 1: he sees the numbers on some of the stuff that
Speaker 1: SAYID has form russo but understandably freaks out to see
Speaker 1: those numbers in this setting. And I guess up to
Speaker 1: now he's just been feeling like, well, I'm just on
Speaker 1: an island, but nobody seems to be dropping dead around me,
Speaker 1: and I don't see the numbers anywhere, so I guess
Speaker 1: we're okay.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is why he's He's with Walt and Lock
Speaker 2: like this is this place is fine and we can
Speaker 2: can stay here and hang out here for a while.
Speaker 1: He's kind of relieved, you know, the pressure is off.
Speaker 1: But then he sees the numbers and it's like here
Speaker 1: we go. Is suddenly action hero Hurley making his way
Speaker 1: through the jungle cannon stopped even by island Dad jack
Speaker 1: right and and said no. They keep telling him, no,
Speaker 1: this is not for you. This adventure is not for you, guys. No,
Speaker 1: we are the guys who go through the jungle. You
Speaker 1: it's not for you, Hurling, don't go across that bridge.
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna make it, but even so,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was particularly And then Charlie
Speaker 1: goes across. But I enjoyed how from a parenting point
Speaker 1: of view, you know, when they got to the other
Speaker 1: side and Hurley wants to keep going and Charlie is
Speaker 1: like pretty much saying no. Dad said no. Dad said like, wait,
Speaker 1: we'll come and get you, and uh is totally totally
Speaker 1: dad mode and Charlie is Charlie is bying at the
Speaker 1: hurly is Nope, nope, nope. He's got a mission and
Speaker 1: you can see what he would be driven under the circumstances.
Speaker 1: But it's just so funny to see him doing all
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, right, this is this is not what we've gone dude.
Speaker 1: Come on right, laughing? Yes, going over a rickety bridge
Speaker 1: and jumping away from a trap? No, so.
Speaker 2: What did he keept me saying I'm spry, I'm spry
Speaker 2: and he was.
Speaker 1: I mean, kudos Torge Garcia for making that switch in
Speaker 1: that character to just be so dark and driven all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, right and uh.
Speaker 2: And he knew that he would be able to escape
Speaker 2: the trap because nothing, nothing bad happens to him, Nothing
Speaker 2: bad happens to him.
Speaker 1: Don't follow too close there, Charlie.
Speaker 2: No, that's where the problems are.
Speaker 1: Oh but he finally does find Russeau and talk to
Speaker 1: her and find out that she too agrees that the
Speaker 1: the numbers are cursed. Right, so somebody finally believes him,
Speaker 1: even if it's a crazy lady out in the jungle tat.
Speaker 1: But when he comes back and he sort of tosses
Speaker 1: the battery to them, right, she says hey and walks off.
Speaker 1: Jack had a smile that looked like like a proud
Speaker 1: dad smile to me, like I expected from that kid.
Speaker 2: But hey, look at that, Hey look at him.
Speaker 1: Go that's my boy.
Speaker 2: Yes, mmmmm so impressive.
Speaker 1: Yes, so that was all very daddy. There were no
Speaker 1: bad dads in this episode, No dad drop Daddy's just
Speaker 1: no just grandpa. Grandpa didn't do nothing except.
Speaker 2: Except being the wrong place of the round time, oh dear.
Speaker 1: But we did have luck as the kind of dad
Speaker 1: who can build you a cradle and also make glue.
Speaker 2: And build a cradle under your nose while you're helping
Speaker 2: and not realize what you're doing.
Speaker 1: This is a trap. There's no mars on it.
Speaker 2: That was sweet once we realized what it was.
Speaker 1: Yes, So so both Island dads weren't full on dad
Speaker 1: mode once one action dad and one you know, tinkering dad.
Speaker 1: But hm, you gotta love it. Yes, And I mean,
Speaker 1: I wonder how many slacks that babies where they did
Speaker 1: they add up to? Were they regulation?
Speaker 2: I was wondering. I was thinking about, like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's all kind of consumer products.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well there was a there was a you know,
Speaker 1: a magazine with instructions there in the jungle somewhere. Somebody
Speaker 1: had it on the plane. So Grandpa the island, Grandpa.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yes, playing back ammon, that's a grampi ish thing,
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: And you know building building the kid a cradle.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yeah, and you know, receding in favor of
Speaker 2: the actual dad, which he's done a few times. So.
Speaker 2: But I mean that baby's arrival has been imminent for
Speaker 2: quite some time.
Speaker 1: And very pregnant for a very long while.
Speaker 2: I mean that is generally how it feels. I think
Speaker 2: at the end, you're like, how can this possibly go on?
Speaker 2: And then it does. It just does, so I can
Speaker 2: I can relate to Claire. No, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's coming up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we have We're getting towards the end of
Speaker 2: the first season, so they've got to surely we must
Speaker 2: be getting towards how many episodes are there?
Speaker 1: Loved but this, this is like one of the first
Speaker 1: episodes that really starts digging in on the mythology, whether
Speaker 1: the creators intended that or not. No, right, but this
Speaker 1: is when people started go a little nuts. But also,
Speaker 1: I mean at the end, you see the it wasn't
Speaker 1: clear to me what that was at the end, but
Speaker 1: I knew it from before that that was the hatch
Speaker 1: that has the numbers on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually rewound to check it and because they did,
Speaker 2: you know, keep it very mysterious. But yes, I believe
Speaker 2: it was the hatch also.
Speaker 1: So there is obviously something bigger going on here than
Speaker 1: just an unfortunate plane crash and a unfortunate scientific mission.
Speaker 2: So it's going to go on from here for quite
Speaker 2: some times.
Speaker 1: This is wheres Yeah, there's one, two, three, four, six
Speaker 1: episodes in a recap episode left.
Speaker 2: So wow, that's a lot. I mean, isn't a season
Speaker 2: usually like twenty two?
Speaker 1: This is twenty four plus a recap.
Speaker 2: Numbers twenty four?
Speaker 1: Twenty four? Is that one of the numbers?
Speaker 2: Only four? Right?
Speaker 1: But see probably if you if you h you know,
Speaker 1: do some masks. Yeah, yeah, you can make it work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So there is that, right, So we still have have
Speaker 1: quite a lot of mischief to get into. Okay, we
Speaker 1: keep getting serious mischief. So next week the episode is
Speaker 1: Dios x Makina and it is a lock flashback episode.
Speaker 1: Little mini spoiler, the Daddy Issues are back. Oh great,
Speaker 1: this was an episode of that Daddy Issues completely They
Speaker 1: missed that We'll see you back here tomorrow discuss shrinking,
Speaker 1: speaking of Daddies with Issues. Thank you for listening. You
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