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<v Speaker 1>We welcome Greg Garza in for a twenty minute sprint

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<v Speaker 1>here on a Friday morning. Are you still down in

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<v Speaker 1>central South Florida of the pretty landscapes that you shot

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<v Speaker 1>from the inside of an airplane.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I flew back from clear Water two days ago

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<v Speaker 2>to Atlanta, and then I flew to West Palm Beach yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm currently in West Palm Beach. I go back today tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>speak to the Colorado Rapids, go back tonight and then

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<v Speaker 2>have a full camp tomorrow with the high school and

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<v Speaker 2>my boys will be involved because I haven't seen them

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<v Speaker 2>in forever. And then I travel Sunday morning to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas, so yeah, okay, sometimes well and it's good crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But for those that may not know the full story

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<v Speaker 1>as to why we're catching you in hotel rooms back

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<v Speaker 1>patio was the occasional time when you get to spend

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a half a minute with your family and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean your family family and you're in their backyard with

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<v Speaker 1>a fence behind you. Let everybody know what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>with Major League Soccer, and we'll use that as our

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<v Speaker 1>as our inroad for conversation here this week. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is uh, it's I tell people like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's d I work. It's essentially d I, but we

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<v Speaker 2>call it something different. We call it ICA, which is

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<v Speaker 2>inner cultural awareness, just helping helping the league understand more

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<v Speaker 2>so the players, player to player understand how to adapt

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<v Speaker 2>to different cultures, how to bond with the different cultures

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<v Speaker 2>that are around them, but ultimately fighting discrimination and all

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<v Speaker 2>the isms that kind of go around within the game,

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<v Speaker 2>or the phobias or whatever it may be, but just

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<v Speaker 2>fighting against discrimination and also helping a lot of players

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<v Speaker 2>that come from a broad or you know, across the pond,

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever they come from, below the equator, wherever they are,

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<v Speaker 2>to understand that there are rules and norms that they

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<v Speaker 2>must follow although they are in a different country. So

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<v Speaker 2>helping people see eye to eye and helping them also

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<v Speaker 2>learn about, i think, their teammates, which has been the

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<v Speaker 2>most interesting thing for me because we all come from

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<v Speaker 2>different backgrounds, different countries, different races, different colors, different beliefs, religions,

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<v Speaker 2>but the ball brings us uniquely together and at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time it can also create a lot of conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's helping helping everybody meet in the middle and

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<v Speaker 2>understand that on the field, off the field, role modelship

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<v Speaker 2>and and everything that goes within is extremely important for

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<v Speaker 2>these for these young and older athletes to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pass the torch and help them understand the responsibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have a couple of different demographics in play here.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the the young up and coming play who

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<v Speaker 1>in Major League soccer these days can be fifteen, sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old. You go to Philadelphia, you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Cavin Sullivan. You know, he comes in and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of second team at the age of fourteen, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets first teen minutes. But then you have the veteran

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<v Speaker 1>who might be on the north end of thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>they have you know, they have experienced certain things in

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<v Speaker 1>a certain framework, and so I would imagine that for

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<v Speaker 1>you it is having to do two lanes of traffic

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time where you have to and it

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<v Speaker 1>might even be four where the inbound information from a

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<v Speaker 1>younger person that you have to sit there and orientate

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<v Speaker 1>in your head and take those lessons and have those

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<v Speaker 1>lessons go outbound from your own perspectives and understandings. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have the older veteran players who might be

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<v Speaker 1>said in their ways, they have their own bits of understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>And then trying to bring them around so the younger

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<v Speaker 1>players can understand where the older players are coming from

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<v Speaker 1>and the veterans can understand where they are coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like a very delicate balance with four lanes

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<v Speaker 1>worth of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's interesting, you said, Philadelphia, because I just

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to them two days ago in clear Water. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have Cavin Sullivan who's sitting in the room, who

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a little boy still, and then you have Alejandro.

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<v Speaker 3>Bodoya that's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like fine wine and just keeps on freaking planming and

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't give up. But you know, it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because you know, you you you try and help

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<v Speaker 2>everybody see the same page. I I from what I've

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<v Speaker 2>learned with doing all of this the past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years is that it's really hard to change someone when

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<v Speaker 2>somebody has set you said it, When somebody is set

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<v Speaker 2>in their ways, it's really hard to change them. But

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<v Speaker 2>can you help them be a little bit more open

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<v Speaker 2>minded to their surroundings and what's around them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the coolest part about being involved in this is

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<v Speaker 2>just helping them understand the differences that are around them

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<v Speaker 2>and not necessarily changing their ways, but also just pointing

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<v Speaker 2>them in the right direction and kind of almost rule

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<v Speaker 2>following and just understanding the norms that that that go around.

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<v Speaker 2>There's interesting things that we learn within every team that

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<v Speaker 2>we speak to, Like you can't do thumbs up an

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<v Speaker 2>Iran right, that means something completely different.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can go to jail if you do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's different things that I think, like you learn from

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<v Speaker 2>these different players from different countries and different backgrounds. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there was a player on Philly that's like

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<v Speaker 2>background was like Bangladesh, Hawaiian, Lebanese and like some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of Asian man. It was just like everybody was in

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<v Speaker 2>the room and was like what And so it sparks conversation, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It sparks the interest of his teammates to get to

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<v Speaker 2>know him a little bit better and and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that creates a better bond and understanding. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we I did I did my lap my my a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of sessions ago with Laris Mabilla, who who was

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<v Speaker 2>with Portland for a long time. We literally finished our

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<v Speaker 2>session and as the whole team was walking out, he

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<v Speaker 2>got his mat out and he started praying. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I had no idea he was Muslim, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>being to.

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<v Speaker 3>To go to goo background, but it's uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you had you had some of my some

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<v Speaker 2>of my we spoke to Cincinnati, and you had some

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<v Speaker 2>of the pets or the fitness guys, uh walk in

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, yeah, what the hell is he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like what will yo, Laris? Let's go, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta go. And I'm like, guys, like, let's leave

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<v Speaker 2>the room. Let's give him his space. And and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's like, that's the interesting part is just helping

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<v Speaker 2>everybody understand that everyone is different. But there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>things that also bring this together. And so just the

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<v Speaker 2>value I think we use it the word a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>is just respect. We were all here to to make

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<v Speaker 2>the world a better place, hopefully most of us. And

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, I think when you are a

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<v Speaker 2>professional soccer player, you have you have the platform to

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<v Speaker 2>two even even more, to do so even more.

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<v Speaker 1>How and I mean and this and I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a in in a way of trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how difficult is it to navigate this laundry

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<v Speaker 1>list of things where you mentioned the idea of you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do a thumbs up in Iran because it means

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<v Speaker 1>something one way or the other. Uh, you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>certain things in certain countries. But here we always view

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves as as a melting pot and this this rue

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<v Speaker 1>that is put together that creates this country that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>How difficult a balance is it for your mentees and

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<v Speaker 1>for those that you touch with Major League Soccer two

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<v Speaker 1>understand other personalities, other other groups, other ethnicities, and still

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, still be themselves, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Because you don't want to. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to change your personality. You don't want to change

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<v Speaker 1>who you are. At the same time, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>respect others and you don't want to to turn yourself

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<v Speaker 1>into a different person as you're trying to understand others,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to maintain yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess is what I'm trying to get to here.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it's it's it's a balance, right, You have to

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<v Speaker 2>you have to look at the the whole picture of

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<v Speaker 2>everything and just.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. I I always tell people you got you gotta travel, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta travel. You have to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that most players sitting in a locker

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<v Speaker 2>room have probably traveled because of soccer, and they've seen the.

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<v Speaker 3>World be a different place.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You see different upbringings, you see different backgrounds, you see

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<v Speaker 2>different beliefs, and I mean, even even speaking to Atlanta United,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a Japanese player who barely speaks any English,

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<v Speaker 2>is probably scared shitless in a different country for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, right, and you need the veterans and you

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<v Speaker 2>need some other guys to hopefully step up and and

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<v Speaker 2>help him adapt and help him acclimate to his surroundings

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<v Speaker 2>the best way possible, you know. And just the way

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<v Speaker 2>that I think that the Japanese are, they're so you

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<v Speaker 2>think of you think of this the stereotypical mindset or

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<v Speaker 2>the subconscious mindset.

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<v Speaker 3>That you have, is that they are so extremely respectful.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something that I feel that that even showed

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<v Speaker 2>speaking speaking with with him as well. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you have to rely on a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys in the locker room, especially the older guys and

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<v Speaker 2>the veterans, to really really manifest and kind of help

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<v Speaker 2>everybody understand in the room, whether it's their commitment to

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<v Speaker 2>help the locker room be a better place and also

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<v Speaker 2>stand up towards any any discrimination. You know, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that the league does a pretty damn good job and

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<v Speaker 2>supporting every single group that is that is that needs

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<v Speaker 2>support within within the league, and so I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's a cool way to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of it from my end and help everybody, hopefully not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily be on agreement with everything, because there has been

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<v Speaker 2>some pushback with with certain teams, but hopefully just me

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<v Speaker 2>eye to eye and see things see things somewhat similarly

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I think that there's context that has to

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<v Speaker 1>be given in your conversations, and they have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>where this other person is coming from. Because if you

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<v Speaker 1>shut yourself off, then you don't want you don't grow,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't advance your personality, you don't advance to it.

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<v Speaker 1>We seem to be we're talking to I guess about

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<v Speaker 1>our inner cells today. But you don't advance mentally, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't advance emotionally, you don't advance as an individual into

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<v Speaker 1>this understanding and understand where someone else is coming from.

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<v Speaker 4>Because to your.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, I mean tol gos shissan is coming to Atlanta, United, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had his four years, very very early

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<v Speaker 1>in his life where he was in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of his time in his life has

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<v Speaker 1>been in Japan in the Far East, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>he comes from. That's his that's his knowledge base, his

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<v Speaker 1>emotion base, his base of self. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>these days it's just as important to understand where someone

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<v Speaker 1>else is coming from in being confident with who you are,

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<v Speaker 1>understand where someone else is confident because one plus one,

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<v Speaker 1>one confident person plus another confident persons, two confident people

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<v Speaker 1>who understand where they're coming from. I know it's basic math,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes that's a lot of math to get over

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding and understanding context to something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I I find it really interesting, even for

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<v Speaker 2>myself to just learn about different cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I speak to all the players, what was what

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<v Speaker 4>What's the newest lesson that you've learned the newest culture?

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<v Speaker 4>What was it that?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh No, not necessarily. I think for me it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting part of it is I think the cultural traditions

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<v Speaker 3>Matter what country you come from. Everybody usually focuses on

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge one because you know, everybody prioritizes family,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody prior toies prioritizes that that time spent with

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, you you have to also understand the brotherhood.

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<v Speaker 2>But within brotherhood comes there there there there can be

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<v Speaker 2>some conflict. But I think the most interesting thing for

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<v Speaker 2>the exercises that we do, uh like feel a little

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the beauty of it is to like these.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of these young kids who might be rookies

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want to rock the boat. They're the new one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's it's been really cool to see them

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest thing for me in terms of all of

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<v Speaker 3>The locker room really.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold themselves accountable and kind of, you know, continue to

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<v Speaker 2>build something that we are also trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To do when coming into a relationship with the mente.

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<v Speaker 1>These do your mentees have an understanding coming into the

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<v Speaker 1>time that they spend with you and Mike about different

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<v Speaker 1>cultures about where all the different perspectives or do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to teach your mentees about understanding and appreciating different

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<v Speaker 1>and more these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I have implemented all of this ICA training in this

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<v Speaker 2>work and to all of my mentees everything that we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I it's so cool because I learned, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>much about my mentees and just getting to know them

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<v Speaker 2>she's getting into clutch years of speaking to colleges, and

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<v Speaker 2>and the surroundings around her. But one of the main

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<v Speaker 2>things is that we I think our bond and relationship

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<v Speaker 2>helped a lot with that, and like we've gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>know each other and she knows that I'm Mexican American,

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<v Speaker 2>She's American, Colombian and Cuban, which is an awesome mix.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like if we didn't know that about each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other, Like I'll sprinkle in some like Spanish in there

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while in our sessions and I'll like,

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Because I think my benefit of playing all over

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<v Speaker 2>it allows you to build connection and relationships and like

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<v Speaker 2>that that I think has really allowed this young woman

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<v Speaker 2>to open up. And I think that's what I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get from it and just feel more comfortable around

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<v Speaker 2>people because I think of our conversations, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>without us understanding each other's culture and having that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ice breaker, she probably would still be maybe extremely quiet, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So like that's that's the cool thing that I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm able to take away from what we do

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<v Speaker 2>in in my Minties conversation of just using some of

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<v Speaker 1>As well, because in those environments where your your paths

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<v Speaker 1>you can use a word or a phrase, or like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you can use you can use a Spanish

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<v Speaker 1>expression that might be a little bit more impactful or

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<v Speaker 1>if you have that little extra op fund, that little

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<v Speaker 1>extra history behind it because of your experience, it means

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<v Speaker 3>More exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it just allows like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this guy just speaks you know this, you know he

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<v Speaker 2>that we have so many different branches within our career,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and we we know a lot about culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm always so interested to learn about different cultures

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<v Speaker 2>to see what their upbringing is like, Uh, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think soccer. Uh, you know, someone like

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<v Speaker 2>many stories to give, uh and who was also a

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<v Speaker 2>Cuban and and someone who can give back to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's a new facilitator this year, and it's great

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<v Speaker 2>to have him nice, but it's it's you know, helping

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<v Speaker 2>him also spread his story to new players coming in

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<v Speaker 2>to help them understand, hey, this is his story. We

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<v Speaker 2>when we give these trainings, and I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest thing about it, is that they give us

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<v Speaker 2>speak to all these players. So I've really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's been it's been a lot of traveling, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of freaking work, but but it's it's been awesome

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<v Speaker 3>Be a part of something like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I cannot let you go before we discuss your

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<v Speaker 1>photo shoot, uh, where you got to model some things.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you and Maddie and Sophia. Yes, the two

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<v Speaker 1>four seven connection, which I thought was hilarious. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't even mean it, and then they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>huh two four seven. I was like, guys, SDH twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven, and they.

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<v Speaker 3>Were like, oh yeah. I was like, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was like, I was like, these young

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<v Speaker 2>these youngsters, Oh my goodness, we got what a great

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<v Speaker 2>idea SDA twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that better be the freaking caption of

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<v Speaker 3>what you guys post.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I mean, and I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>them that it has to be the friggin caption, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the option, but the friggin caption. But yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to you got to model the jersey. What you

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<v Speaker 1>what'd you think of the SDAH?

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it and such, I mean, such good people

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<v Speaker 2>to be around. All you guys are amazing people. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who's involved with SDH. So you guys just keep bringing

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<v Speaker 2>in younger and younger people, so watch out, Yeah, brother, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting old, but no, just fantastic, fantastic to be around,

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<v Speaker 2>and getting to know them a little bit better is

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, awesome, awesome young women who are also changing

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<v Speaker 2>the game and providing different opportunities in that sense, and

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<v Speaker 2>are so many women out there that are pushing for

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<v Speaker 2>great leadership roles and and and hustling because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>They are kicking ass and they're kicking our asses on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis. Fashion model for SDH, Greg Garza modeling

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<v Speaker 1>our Olive and York guys are permanente Beyond Goals first

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<v Speaker 1>ever SDH Jersey, what's going on with beyond goals?

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<v Speaker 4>When you come back into this part of the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Same old, same old.

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<v Speaker 2>The beauty about being away is that I still get

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<v Speaker 2>to hop on sessions.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally have one that starts right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'll see you guys later, man, take care

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks for having me.
