Speaker 1: It's the center one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of at an angle like this, and
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directly back at me. But before it's looking at me,
what I see is this. It's doing this, and it
comes across like that, and it's putting something across like
a screen that's.
Speaker 2: In front of it.
Speaker 1: And this is like this thing looked like it was
about seven fight foot tall. It was a very large grade.
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Speaker 4: We're talking about UFOs and things.
Speaker 3: That are inhabiting living in our atmosphere.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot.
Speaker 3: Of activity, a lot of stuff's happening right now, and
people are catching a lot of strange things on camera.
And it's been something that we've looked at just nuts
and bolts, metal objects and those things in the uap
UFO aerial phenomenon kind of stuff. But my guests today
have caught some really interesting things on footage and man,
we're gonna dive into it. We're gonna discuss it, break
it down, theories, what comes with the sidings. They are
producing documentaries, movies, all of this stuff. We're going to
dive really deep into it. Welcome to the podcast, Terry
and Donald Brothers. How are you guys today? Looking forward
to jumping in to this discussion with you right on.
Speaker 2: Miley, Thank you, thank you for having us, Thank you
for having us. Yes, sir, yes, sirs.
Speaker 3: So Donald, you produced the documentary or movie entitled The
Middle correct, correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'll just I'll just give you the backstory
on that. So I have a podcast called Alien Strap
podcast that I started in twenty nineteen, about a few
months later, probably in November decen This was in June
and July November December. Jared Lynch got a hold of
me through that podcast through other friends. So he started
sending me this information on He lives in Oregon, up
there in the Pine Organ and right next to a
dormant volcano Colla Pine, I mean, called paul in a Peak.
So one day he just you know, was looking through
his GPS, his phone and Google. So he started setting
me images of something that he had found up there. Now,
mind you, he hadn't gone up there yet because of
the snow is so deep over there, so so much,
and it just snows so darting much up there. It's
just it's you can't get up there until summertime. So anyway,
he sent me the photos and everything that he found,
and then you know, I was blown away by what
I've seen and I was like, oh my god, that's
people have to see this. So apparently he found a geoglyph.
It's about the size of a two story house on
the side of this mountain that was uncovered right by
debris or or everything that we was buried in other words,
So when I told Terry, I, so you know what,
we we got to get at this out to the world.
And took us about a year and a half after
that when he was planned for it, because of course
it's very expensive to make documentaries and and we had
to get the right camera equipment. I was doing videography
at the time, but it was a full blown videography,
I mean like a movie sort of state. So I
had to invest in some nice cameras. And then you know,
we planned it for you know, last year. So we
went up there in August first. We got there August first,
took us. We drove from Texas and from Corpus Christi, Texas,
so it took us about three to four days to
get up their Oregon. We stopped and we did interviews
with people in New Mexico and in Arizona because Terry
pointing me to all these people that were seeing the
same things kind of coincided with what he was seeing.
Because not only did he did he find these jid
lives up there, he was also catching these ups or
UFOs going over that that area, right, And so I
told him, I said, you know, let's let's get this
whole film. And of course we went up there. After
we interviewed everybody, got everybody's footage, So everybody that watches
this film in the middle is going to see their footage,
just as far as UAP videos anything like that, still
still photography that's been analyzed by Chris Hamill. Of course
he's on there as well. And then we have we
have a guy on there. His namement is that Ken
Wells Junior. He's an author on petroglyphs and he's a
professional and what he does been doing it for twenty years.
So we put petroglyphs, you know, which is the native
paintings that people have done throughout the ages on walls,
and we kind of put everything together with the geoglyph
and the story kind of comes all together in this
document ary. Wow.
Speaker 3: I had I had, I say, privilege under privilege right
now to breeze through it, to check it out, to
see if this would make a good interview. But I've
been so slammed. I picked it up enough to say, Okay,
this is something new that you guys are bringing to
the table, something a little bit different, which which we need.
We need everybody's piece of the puzzle. And so I
knew this would be a great talk and sing very
similar things. Catching it on camera. I don't know how
you reached out to me. Was it one of my
videos that that that we're going viral for catching some
of the stuff on on camera that you saw on Facebook?
Speaker 2: Or was it podcast? I saw something on YouTube? I
think you have a YouTube channel, correct, Yeah, yeah, so
I think I saw it there. And then I went
to I like to go through all the podcasts or UFO,
you know, anything you know that's to the unknown right
related and and you know, I like to we we
like to come together as one. So that's why I
reached out to you and I said, you know what,
this would be a great topic for him to talk
about today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of this stuff is UH is coming to
the forefront obviously, and the you know, the government in
our news, you know, sprinkling a narrative out there kind
of thing, you know. So people are definitely interested, but
people are having their own experiences as well. So I've
been going out filming just with the cell phone. But
the cell phones now are there is no just with
the cell phone. They're really souped up, you know, they're
shooting documentaries with cell phones and being able to catch
some very interesting things on camera myself and bringing them back.
Being a video editor, I do music and edit my
own music videos and documentaries too. So I dragged this
footage in after seeing wild stuff in our skies and
I'm finding very insane looking things in the sky that
are doing all types of there's It's like a whole
nother world up there that we can see, you know,
clearer at certain parts of the year. My introduction to
uthology was definitely during the night. You know, It's one
of the things you wait and so I couldn't wait
for the sun to go down to get out there
under the stars and start seeing things moving, and so
whether it was a cloudy day or you had to
wait all day and stay up late or wake up early.
But now, just within the last few months, I'm finding
that most of the activity has.
Speaker 2: Been during the day.
Speaker 3: You know, this man, I've been waiting all these years
to go out at night, but during the day is
when it seems to be active. Terry's you're sitting You're
shaking your head. Brother, what are you catching on camera?
And what are you experiencing with these catches? Man?
Speaker 1: Well, first thing, first thing is I said this yesterday.
I'm going to say it again. I am Nikon, I
use nikong. Heear. What I do is I like to
take and speed up the the you know, just just
speed up how fast your your camera and can pick
the pictures and capture the frames. And what that does
is it gives you a slow motion effect. And I'll
sit there and I'll focus it. Anybody can do this,
by the way, with a cell phone, just like you said,
that's exactly where I started his cell phone. During the daytime.
If you if you just point one spot, you don't
have to chase every direction, which everybody seems to want to.
They want to just try and look everywhere. The fact
of the matter is the things that they move in geometry, Okay,
they move, they move through this in the corner like this.
So what you need to do is you focus your
camera on one side. I'd like to take the kim
trails off of a jet and that that way I
can focus in. It gives you gives you a far
away point that you can focus camera. Okay, Now, once
you're lined up on that, you're focused in. Anything that
passes in front of your camera, in front of or
behind that kim trail is going to show up. They'll
see it moving past. See it move past jet, see
it move That's that's the only thing I can actually
see good about kim trails on a jet as you
use them as a as a way to focus your
camera in the sky.
Speaker 2: Thanks for putting them there. It gives me.
Speaker 1: It gives me so the aim at because planes moving
too fast. But yeah, I mean you could focus on
a plane at caged for a while. You can focus
in on it, but it's a lot easier again, like
I said, to focus in on the chimdrip behind the plane.
So once you're focused in on that, you find yourself
a location that you know that they pass on. I
call my location the Cascadia passage. Okay, uh, it's it's
a it's a line between Mount Shasta Mount ass a
straight line and if you go up onto the top
lineup peak right where the Cascadia guides are that I've
located you conceive Shasta and Madams from that location. Now
you've got this really long run down all these volcanoes.
And when you set your cameras up on a higher
speed like get you slow it down and you start
capturing things that are diving diving in out of the
sky and moving right along the top of the line.
You see things that are moving along the ridge lines.
Speaker 3: Now are you seeing this in real time on the
camera or do you have to go back and dissect
it afterwards.
Speaker 1: Most of the time you have to go back and
dissect it on the cameras. Uh, this is this is
one of those situations where this is daytime, mind you,
daytime because they're usually they moved I like all it
twenty two miles a second as the speed that they're
moving at that that puts some I think it's about
twenty two thousands hour to do the man. Anyway, they're
really moving, man, I mean they're really moving. If you
even even with your camera doing this this slow mode,
you're lucky to even catch it in part.
Speaker 2: Of the frame.
Speaker 1: Yes, some of them than others. Right, Yes, that's right now.
And then then again there's other ones that are moving
really slow. And these are the ones that we see
at night, the orange orange ball that looks like a
uh campfire in the sky, and they kind of pulsate
a little bit. You don't really hear much. You might
hear it a low like as. I put out something
called the D one sharp hypothesis on this, and basically
what that was that it means that the craft is moving.
All of these crafts are moving on magnetic flux tubes.
If you understand a little bit of physics, all of
the crafts are moving on magnetic flux tubes. What they
do is is you got a flux tube that's above
the drafts and below the craft. In our case, they
attached to to the ionics lavas and they attached to
the mass earth below us. I call that my that's
another one of mine. I call that one the id
od in heer diameter outer diameter. And the craft is
in the middle of those two positions, and what happens
is is they go into what it's called quantum lock.
This is how the craft stays up and down once
you put Once you put magnetic flux tubes around the
superconductive material, it removes mass. It takes the weight completely
away from it. There's no, mass doesn't matter how that
object is. You can do it to an aircraft care
you wouldn't have any mass to it because it's inside
of the magnetic plus basket which is completely around the craft.
And if you notice on some of these, you'll see
fingers what looks like fingersing this way and fingers going
like this. As the craft goes by, you see you
see these things on top of the bottom. It looks
like fingers almost. And what doing is it's walking across
the sky on magnetic fluxes. Now, when when this is
is where the the mind blower part is because there's
a couple of things that happen here. One, you have
magnetic repulsion, which is the opposite of uh, magnets trying
to pull together. It's like a magnet flipped over and
dishing away. So when you take a magnet, you have repulsion.
You cock at almost a forty five degree angle. It's
going to start to push that way. Okay, this is
why we have a hard time catching those things, because
we have jets to do these big wide terms. And
these guys go this way, they stop, and they go
this way, and they outrun us. We say, we say,
there's nothing in physics that they can explain us. It's
nothing physics that explains this. Okay, they're they're taking it.
They're going from the power source of Earth. They're going
up to a same location above mountain ranges or right
to skin the mountain range, or they even lock themselves
into a position to where they stay a certain height
above terrain. Because you can also see them doing that
going along the edge of the mountain right like a
like a fly really moving along something. Okay, so what
happens here is they go up to their safe out right,
they release the bottom magnetic flux tubes from the Earth.
They reattach to the ones in the ionosphere, and they're
up here now. Okay, once they release these magnetic flux
tubes on the bottom, they disappear like that because Earth rotation.
Now the craft is staying still, but the verse at
this tourney, the craft isn't moving at all. The craft
you're released from the Earth and it's staying stuck to
the atmosphere up here, and then you have the Earth
roughing the rotation underneath. Now, the closer you are to
center mass the equator, the faster that craft's going to
take off. The further north you go the slour the're
gonna take or the further south you go the slour
of the craft's going to take off. There's a there's
a very good reason why the US Navy's having such
a problem. And that specific theater where they were seeing
the tick back and all that and all those that
are there, I call that's another one of my hypotheses
I call the exit of the equator, and that has
you clear out that have a NEWI and let's see
you have that's the chainer's whole chain of islands out past. Okay,
Easter Island's over here, that's part of it. Uh, you
start going this way, it starts to separate out and
what ends up happening. You end up as they're coming
in onto the equator over this island chain, they start
to fan out to slow down their crafts speed. So
now you can either go north or the US which
but you like, I don't know, Dinosaur National Monument, or
to the north or to the south would put you
right around Kumampunka. Okay, So now you see where this
exit is, how how it's coming off of there, and
why every time the Navy goes out there, they see
all this craft. It's because these things are coming in
from that location. Now, if you look at the bottom
of the ocean, you'll see all these lines that shoot
just like out at Nasca, the Nasca lines. Okay, so
you you, everybody sees lines. We're all trying to figure
out what are these lines. A lot of people would say, well,
that's where submarines were going. Bot sonar was hitting the
bottom of the ocean floor and they just king ping
ping as they're going along. Well, these line a lot older,
and they some of these lines lead to in the
uh some of these lines things that are lost in
the ocean. And what this is these are the lines
that those UFO s, the U A D is. They're
connected to the bottom with the magnetic flux tubes that
are going down. And this goes back to my D
one sharp where they it's putting out this tone. Now
the tone is walking like a book print. As it's walking,
you turn up the you turn up the uh oh,
but it's uh how many intervals that that the tone
would have and would be coming down like boom boom,
boo boo, and it will allow you to move faster.
You slow it down and you would move slower, and
every one of these magnetic flux tubes that are going
down are acting as a wave guideline, shooting that uh
D one sharp down to the surface. If you look
at any of the ancient uh uh petrid lips that
that you would see like down Dinosaur National Monument or
or you see some of them, there's other ones where
you see it looks like a spiral, looks like the universe. Yeah, okay,
and then that looks like the sun, and you know,
you see all kinds of but they they all have
the same look. That's what D one sharp looks like
when you're sitting there and you're putting it down on
to timtics, sharks tones, absolutely, the tone shruck.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So now there's there's others that do all the vibration
that humans and things we have a we have a
vibration to ourself. If you were to take say a
bowl of water and catch the sun on it and
have it hit the ball right and you're not touching it,
you're just looking at you see just a like a
reflection like this, and then you go over there and
you just touch two fingers, put two fingers right on
the edge of that ball. You'll start seeing your vibration
in that reflection. Okay, these are the ancient telephones that
these guys had. We didn't We didn't have this. We
had we had everything natural chakras man if you if
you want to sit here, Uh, we had we had
all these ancient ways of doing things.
Speaker 2: Mind you, Terry. Uh, like I said, what you're hearing
right now, he didn't know any of this, none of us.
He didn't know anything about science, uh, anything like this,
you know, the the quantum physics, everything that you're hearing
him say right now. He didn't know anything this because
he was, like I said before, he was just a
regular guy working a job, you know, going to work
every day, coming home, you know, drinking beer and shooting
guns out there. That's what they were doing back you know,
that's right were until he actually there was a craft
that at five thirty in the morning, with him and
his son in the car, they came upon and it
was just like literally right in front of them, literally
hovering like maybe one hundred feet above them. So when
that happened to him, something kind of opened up in
his mind kind of brought him to thinking, Okay, I
need to find out how this thing is working. What
is this thing? I don't know what it is. I've
never seen anything like this before. Of course, it's scared
the hell out of him. They sat there maybe for
about five minutes, and they took off like a bat
out of heck, you know what I mean, just took off.
So they didn't want He didn't understand it until after
they got to work, because they were hitting to work
at five thirty in the morning. There was the eclips
lunary eclips at that evening, so and they were able
to catch something that people just don't get to see
up close, you know what I mean, or experience up close.
This is how close Terry was to this craft that
he can actually see the pilot inside of this really yes, okay,
looking looking at him. They looked at each other eye
had eye to eye contact, literally fight eye contact, and
Terry says that it actually smiled at him in a sense.
So so it's how do you explain that to somebody?
You know, that eight foot or ten foot grade sitting there,
you know, whatever it is looking at you, and in
a large craft that's just kind of separating with each other.
Speaker 3: You make contact with it. You learn this technology and
you learn how to call it back to show up.
That's what sounds like what they're teaching something about what
it taught me. That's what they're They're telling you their
phone number and the Bible and many ain't texts. It's
their names. It's there because their name is their vibrational frequency.
Their signature is their phone number. How to call them
is to know their vibrational frequency. So you can move
your heart to a place of love whatever, fasting, many
different ways to position yourself to be in communication with beings.
It seems like that are way beyond move faster. That's
I can't even think as fast as they move. That
is the thing that it blows my mind. It's like
there because there's some things we're catching on film, and
I'm sure you guys are too. It looks like wars
and things. But I'm talking about I'll do what you're doing.
Film a five minute clip if that, and slow it
down ninety percent, which turns into a.
Speaker 2: Three hour clip.
Speaker 3: A five minute clip, or let's just say, let's just
say five second clip turns into like thirty minutes to
an hour of all this communication disc comes here talks
to that one gives it something involved, unfolds and turns
into something else and flies like all of it.
Speaker 4: It looks like a movie.
Speaker 7: This is that?
Speaker 4: Und how do we wrap our minds around such information?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, that unfolding that you're saying. When you
see them unfold like that, what's happening is they're going
up and it's it's a good example. Uh, when you're
looking at that film, I want you to notice if
there's something coming out of the center of these craft
when when they're doing this unfolding. What what I what
I've gathered, what I found through some of my rearches
that when they unfold like this, they're throwing a counterweight
out and that counterweights unlocking uh magnetic flux tubes down
to the earth and that allows them to turn on
a dime just like that they grab onto it. They're
moving at that full speed, they're waiting to hit that
one line where the flux tubes are gonna going to
extend out the next direction and even even and that
wasn't Jody Gordon's uh last craft that we just witnessed. Uh.
Animal Konis and I were observing that and we both
noticed that as the craft's moving along. You see it
kind of change its shape a little bit, and then
you see what looked like a light shoot off. And
then when that light, right after that light shot up, damn,
the crafts start going back. So it's like it's thawing
out a lasso of magnetic flux in a direction to turn.
So you're moving this way, and then the lassos out
like that and they shoot it out in the Damn
that goes that way, and it's following all these lines.
Speaker 2: Think about it like this, Like you've seen them funny
videos where people tie up a rope to a bicycle
and they're trying to steal it and it just stops
and boom they fall off. That's that's what it is.
It's like a pool. It's gonna stops it and it
turns on a dime. And that's what we have video
of that. I mean literally, I show one in the
actual movie where it goes up and it twists and
then it turns out, it goes a different direction inside
the cloud. This is a video by Judy Gordon. A
lot of these videos that you're going to see inside
the movie in the middle has all this footage in there,
and of course the main topic of this of that
the film is about the Cascadia Guides. It's the something
is attracting whatever put these stone. They look like two
stone people, kind of like aliens in a sense. They
have alien heads, but they're back to back with each
other on top of an eight thousand foot mountain. So
we had to go eight thousand feet above sea level
up there. And you know, it was during the summer.
You're thinking, you're right down here in Texas is ninety
to one hundred degrees, but when we were up there,
it was like fifty two degrees and raining, so and
it's just the elements and then it's hard to breathe
them there too. Yeah, so every five minutes we had
to stop the table. But this is what attracts them.
Where Terry's at literally, uh, the craft go over this
area and they We've got a video of Terry's that
you can kind of see the craft go over Paulinea,
it stops, it turns it in, it throws a light
right to that where the guides are at, and they
take off with an instant. So if you want to
catch a lot of these UFOs or UAPs on film,
it's just like you said, you recorded for five minutes
or and it turns to thirty minutes. Well as videographers
myself and like what you do your own videos yourself
and things like that. So you have one frame, which
is one second of a frame, right, So what we
have to do is break that down into ten sections
a tenth of each frame in order to see that
that craft. And and a lot of times say, well
it's a bug, a bug's going by. A lot of
people always stay they're.
Speaker 4: Budding bugs if you use them.
Speaker 2: This is the this is the key right here to learning.
If you see, if you see something go by within
that one second of the frame, within one second, yeah
it's probably a book. But if you don't see it
within that one second, you have to break it down
into ten sections in order to see it within that
one second.
Speaker 8: Well, then you're looking at a up of craft something definitely.
So are we talking nutsymbols? Are we talking metal? Are
we talking bronze? Are we talking stones? Or are we
talking I think it's everything everything. I think I believe
it's everything. I think we've got the salt. I think
we got we've got crafts that are made of the salt.
I think we've got crafts that are probably would.
Speaker 1: I think we've got stuff that are made of of
almost like a fleshy material. I think that we've got
stuff that are super conducting craft I think that we've
got a mix of everything. I believe that everything that
we're looking at is so much more ancient than we are.
They live inside the earth. They absolutely live inside the earth.
Every one of these volcanoes that you look at, every
volcano U see is a hide. They live inside the volcanoes.
Speaker 3: And there's a firmament that separates. Like everybody talks about
the firmament that we have above our head, right, but
you've you've kind of like been toying with just where
you're mentioning now another firmament that makes it to where
us in this in this state cannot go into the volcano,
or cannot go to the bottom of the ocean. We
can't pass through these different firmaments in this state unless
they have a different ship or a bubble, or they
ascend their body vibrationally learn the tone.
Speaker 4: Whether it's in this life or the next, who knows.
Speaker 3: But there's something that separates bridge, there's something that separates
all of these realms. But these beings or these gods
or whatever you want to call them, seem like they
have the ability to go between all of the world's correct.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're experiencing.
Speaker 1: I call it a Rosen bridge. Doctor Albert Einstein and
doctor Nathaniel Rosen, they together put together with general relativity
and doctor Rosen Nathaniel Rosen's then wall wormhole theories. They
put them two together to create what's called the Rosen bridge.
Just recently they revised it and stated that the rosen
bridge is a success. The fact of the matter is
is the moment that they observed the first actual first
black hole, that's when they were able to confirm the
first frozen bridge. Okay, both doctor Einstein theories both proven correct.
Now general relativity has been proven correct. That the applied
sciences to these things. We have a bullet trained over
over in Tokyo that that moves on the same principles
as the UFO craft. I'm certain that the crafts are
probably doing the same kind of thing. When you take
a super conductive and you're moving in.
Speaker 2: It, and it's.
Speaker 1: Moving along at as this anti growdy device that's moving
with it. The second you put copper plating between it,
it'll come oft the quantum lock and stop. So that's
how they stop the bullet train. Is they use copper. Okay,
it's it's it's all simple. This is all old world,
super old world stuff. If you were to yeah, if
you were to take if you were to take a
copper wire and run, but like twelve coils, uh in
a coil all around each other from the start, kind
of like that big spiral we were talking about. And
you connect that down end of the earth and you
take uh, we'll go with lambs. Will keep it ancient.
Take lambs wool and stick it up on the top
of the tree and bring it, bring the long line
of that lambs wool down and go to attach to
that copper wire. By the way, do it with rubber
gloves on, and you're going to get thrown. That's ancient power.
That's that's what Nikolai Teshop is trying to tell everybody.
Speaker 4: That seems like what they're trying to tell us too.
Speaker 2: That's the weird thing.
Speaker 3: And and you know about free energy, like it seems
that that humanity has become enslaved by the powers that be.
Speaker 1: Voluntarily we're the only ones that pay to live here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so now you know, it was laughable even
in the early nineties to think that one day we
would pay for water. It was laughable that one day
these people will be gullible enough that we can bottle
water something for free, and they will work whatever portion
of the day in exchange for money to get that
water from us that they can freely get from God
or from the ground, from the heavens where ever. All
of these free technologies, free energy, like you're describing primitive energy,
and technology that we're thinking is futuristic in advance is
very primitive, but it's been erased so that we put
ourselves almost in this voluntary slavery.
Speaker 4: But they seem to be trying to teach crop circles.
Speaker 3: I'm having experience as you're talking about downloads and stuff
like that, with the bugs and energetic fields in my
backyard that are swirling and the bugs get in it
and make tornadoes, and they're showing me like DNA and
showing me energy and spirals everywhere, and it's too telepathic
download but they're using things around me, and it is
like far out but it's not just it sounds crazy
for me and you to be talking about this. But
when we start owning it and exploring it, leaning into
it a little bit, now other people like.
Speaker 2: Oh me too, me too. Wow, I'm seeing the same thing.
Speaker 3: I shared this one video of me catching some stuff,
and now I'm getting tons of footage submitted from people
all over the world that are going out filming the sun,
filming there and coming back with insane footage of anomalies.
That that is that someone's trying to hide from us.
Let's just say that, yeah, I would.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen down in Mexico. It's
a it's a volcano called and there's there's an actual
live feed on YouTube. You can sit there and watch
it all day, all day long, all day long, and
they have been getting these long cylinder crafts going into
that and it's a live volcano. It's not dormant. It's
a live so it it's fews every once in a while,
but you'll see these craft go in there and come out,
and go in there and come out. So whatever what
Terry's saying exactly is what's happening with that with the
Rosen Bridge, Liten Wall wormhole or what they're kind of
they're going into the earth. They're protected, you know, through
that wormhole in a sense. Uh, and they're living in
the in the the earth somewhere. You know, there's a
cave probably down there, you know, after they you know,
they're they're probably just living down it and they go
in and out through these areas because they know we
can't go in there.
Speaker 4: How far fetch.
Speaker 2: Does it sound?
Speaker 3: I mean, I know nothing sounds far fetched, even what
we're talking about, but that they're trading resources because they
like I are you catching any of.
Speaker 1: That gold, things like that crystals? Yeah, I'm sure. I'm
certain that they're using all of these different things to
to do what they need to do. But they they're
doing it, I would have to say that they're doing
it on a on a kind of a different level.
They're using it as for their ability to do what
they're doing, the speeds that they're moving. I would like
to see at some point this is this is we're
gonna have to have somebody become a spokesman to these
these things. I would like to see, like we try
and put together some type of the diplomacy. You know,
we're we're seeing them, they're showing themselves to us.
Speaker 4: I think we already are.
Speaker 1: We need to find a way to have some type
of diplomacy with them so we can find out not
only what they want, but someplace where they feel safe
to come in and talk.
Speaker 3: I think we already are. I think it's I think
disclosures happening. I'm say from above, but from within, like people, yes,
me and you and many people listening to this, who are.
Speaker 4: Like literally at the edge of their seat.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And I was there for disclosure anymore.
Speaker 3: I'm as far as being able to get them to
show up on command or by asking, or learning their
vibrational frequency, learning their name, or learning their their hour.
All of this stuff that's been mentioned in every Holy book,
including I'm a student of the Bible that that's my text,
and we're talking everything that you've been mentioning and me,
from Genesis to Revelation.
Speaker 2: It's been in there the whole time.
Speaker 3: The different types of metals that the ships were made
out of, all of this stuff. How to call upon
them their names that are hidden in a vibrational frequency,
that is a tongue that is forgotten, that is not
spoken anymore, but it's in the sanscript and even a
Hebrew tongue that's mentioned in the Bible, that these vowels
and vibrations, you know that.
Speaker 2: The ancients knew about where did they get them from.
Speaker 3: They were either encoded in our DNA that was changed,
or they were in touch with some of these beings
that they're starting to make shrines and statues.
Speaker 2: And we're talking about stuff that.
Speaker 3: Was able to withstand cataclysms because it was on a
type of metal or a type of rock, like just
like even what we're doing with like you know the
faces in Hollywood, how those are like those mountains, Supposedly
there were already faces there and that they could when
you know, they came there, erase those faces and put
new faces on there. So whatever cataclysm, whatever happens thousands
of years, millions of years in the future, there's something
that's engraved in stone that now you have a signature
of maybe what these beings look like, maybe their names
or their signature is at the bottom. This is a
lot of stuff that was in all of the ancient
texts that are that are in the pyramids all over
the world, and the elites they're hiding this information and
technology from us, but it's coming to the lay person.
It's not coming to the physicists. It's not coming to
those who were trained. It's coming from those who were
who can't brag on their ability to figure this out
on their own, that it has to be some type
of intervention. You didn't go to school for this, you're
easily dismissed. And this is like the people that Jesus
chose in the Bible, these fishermen, these people who were
rough around the edges, who couldn't boast in their schooling,
but they could boast in their schooling of meditation, and
that they were tapped in through the spirit. Before we
started recording this, you mentioned that even this morning and
in the hours before the sun rise and just these
few moments you wake up and you're receiving messages, these
divine epiphanies, divine knowings that are giving you what you
need for the day, like and so that is the initiation.
How many other people see these crafts every day and
I don't know what it is, but you see, Oh
my god, what is that?
Speaker 1: You guys have been taught we've been taught to not
look through religion specifically. Yeah, we've been taught to not
look at things like that. If you see things like that,
it's probably witchcraft, or it's a demon.
Speaker 2: Or it's uh, it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: Or see, if you completely shut your mind out, it's easy.
It's easy to do that. If you shut your mind out. Now,
if you're a Christian person and you open your mind
and you take a look at that, you have a
different outlook than than that one guy that's getting right.
You know, you better off better off with an open mind,
because now you're starting to see things for what they
really are. You see things, you see things like I
call it the writing on the walls when I start
looking at the Petrick glyphs or the you see what
I'm saying. What you're seeing there is you're seeing. You're
seeing things of Pananaki when they they were here walking
around doing their thing. When you see all these giant
doorways and all these things that were we were meant
for something that was much larger than our size. Okay,
these are the things that we're We're here long before us,
this was the intelligence civilization. And then here comes my story.
You're ready for my story. Okay, Mars being Niberu because
we decided to name it Mars and change it from Niberu.
You've got Mercury, you've got Venus, you've got Earth, you've
got Mars. Okay, Mercury wasn't quite born yet. What's happening
is is you've got Venus where Mercury is at and
as Venus or has March being born, it pushes Venus
out out into the spot where Eden or Terra was located,
and it's slowly, as she said, into the place where
Mars was that well, when Mars is being pushed out
on that line, it's being pushed out and it's losing
its atmosphere. And as it's losing its atmosphere, mister Noah
builds a great, big arc and he starts loading up
all the stuff that's on Mars that he can take
with him.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is happening. Now.
Speaker 1: These people were very advanced. They're about to lose all
their technology. They're going to have to start over in
a minute. But they got this big craft. Part of
the advancement is is you know, how commonist formed. What
happens is is we've got we've got a belt out
there on the edge of our solar system, and another
doar comes along and it creates this big magnetic push,
and it'll it'll set up a couple of comments. Okay,
that's all because of again, magnetic repulsion. Okay, not not prepulsion,
magnetic repulsion for propulsion.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's pushed off of this thing, and now it's
shooting across our solar system. All right, Well, I believe
that mister Noah and was told you got to do
these things. We're going to set this chain of events off.
There's a bunch of dinosaurs, there's a there's a we
got these giants.
Speaker 2: That we call.
Speaker 1: Annaki and things like that. Anyway, what's happened here is
it's moving into this place that's about to lose all
this oxygen. This thing hits down by the Yucatan boom.
Now we've got plate tectonics happening. There's floods, there's there's
ice age, there's all kinds of stuff taking place, killing
off all this big stuff that's going to kill these
little guys that are coming down there. The craft that
I'm talking about is a four and a half miles long,
four point five miles long are wide, and fourteen point
five long. It's down on Antarctica, and Antarctica Antarctica is
one of those magnetic pool locations where things come in
from space, where it gets sucked in by the big
magnet of the bottom of our planet. It's just one
of those where we we have to think about these
ancient signs. By the way, that that craft I'm talking
about also has about a seven hundred mile long slide
trail behind it. You can you can clear tell, but
once you start coming down on one architecta, there's this
long straight line, and once you get to the end
of that long straight line, here's this great, big, what
almosts like the governments tried to cover up, but it's
still their image of this giant craft. Yeah, it's a
giant craft, huge, you know, it's it's stuff like that.
It's stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I.
Speaker 1: Learned to see. Yeah, let me ask you this because
giant geoglyph you mentioned, you.
Speaker 3: Mentioned the kim trails, right, and it's just you know,
it's a big, a big deal, right, and you know,
what are they what's going on?
Speaker 4: I've kind of took that as a as a pointer
when to start filming.
Speaker 3: Once when it's a clear day and then all of
a sudden, from every angle, they're all headed towards the
sun to block the rays of the sun. And so
that's just kind of what I've been I haven't really
focused on, like I've been able to catch it in
the light. I haven't been able to focus on outside
the light, which I need to because what you're talking about,
because there's different types of beings or crafts that are
out there. They dip into the sun, they fly behind
the sun, they do all types of weird things, as
you know. But I've taken the jets going to the
sun to block it or to create a haze so
we can't see something and say, okay, they're trying to
block something.
Speaker 4: Time to pull out the Trusty's cell phone. Let's pull
out the tripod.
Speaker 3: Let's film and then you catch if you're catching all
types of things coming in and out of the sun,
things being deposited into the sun, almost like a wound,
if you will, just wild stuff that will blow your mind.
But and then we're catching the chemtrails on camera and
we're filming them, and sometimes you see these little things
track like it's almost like that are planes. Our jets
know these paths that these beings or these things are
going to come out a portal of the sun wherever
it is, and travel through, and they try to block
it or cover it up so that we won't freak
out with a wormhole or portal opening up and all
of these things coming into our atmosphere. Because if you
pay attention and film, you'll see things riding on the
clouds through the chim trails like almost like little veins.
They're coming through that the jet flies sprays it blocks it,
but they're using it almost as a highway or something.
Speaker 2: Have you seen a cloud like, let's just say, you
see maybe one kim trail or maybe two from jets
that have been by. Then all of a sudden, maybe
about five minutes later, you see a bunch like little
lines kind of going through it all the way across
that kim trail. Well, that's pretty much what you're talking
about right there. That's it. They kind of.
Speaker 3: Like they're trying to hide it, but it shows it,
like you know, it's kind of counter I mean, obviously
we can't see the time, but you you start seeing
these these like vortexes and things in the clouds that
that the that the chemicals or whatever's in the chemtra
doesn't stick to, and you'll see these clear paths and
portals and stuff that they're trying to hide it, but
it's everywhere and they don't I don't know if they
have the budget to hide it from everyone all the time.
Speaker 1: Right right, everybody's cell phone is getting better too, and
the best way to.
Speaker 2: Catch these things even if like let's say you take
a photo of it or a video of it. Uh,
there's analyzation of apps out there like pixeler. Uh. These
these apps out there. What they do is you're able
to change the image, change the contrast, bring out the
the heat signatures, things like that where you can actually
see these craft and then zoom in and you'll if
you zoom into one of these things, I guarantee you
one hundred percent, you're gonna find a little little like
it looks like a little look around it. It's called
electronic magnetic field that's around this thing. And that's how
you know it's real because you're always going to see
that little that little ball around the craft and then.
Speaker 1: A magnetic plucks basket that's around it.
Speaker 2: That's it. So uh And when people are doing this
at home, anybody could do this. It's even in our movie,
Like I said, it's in the middle. So there you yeah,
we have a plane going across, and then you can
see it's huge craft go over. You can't see it
with the naked eye until you use this uh these uh,
these filters in order to to see this stuff.
Speaker 3: When you get better and some of the naked eye stuff, right,
Terry Like, eventually you kind of learn what to look for,
whether it's like a little flash out the corner or
just a slight shadow movement and you're like, that was
something we got, something good. I can't wait to break
the footage down.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Right, You start learning of these little subtleties if you will.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes now sometimes I'll be I'll be recording and
you're gonna love this one. The tic Tac craft. It's
it's probably one of the most common, uh I'm gonna
say around the coastlines, like west coast to the east coast,
but on the coastlines, you're gonna see that mostly around there,
because this is also a craft that goes down into
the ocean. It's uh, this is the one that that
the Navy has been playing with quite a bit, and
and you know, I think actually they go out and
they look for these things now because they know that
they're there. Ever since, ever since the United States Navy
got the uh the new radio active it's a it's
a forward infra red radar. Ever since they've got that,
they can see these things. They didn't used to see
them anymore. Now they all of a sudden they see
these things lighten up underneath their craft, like where'd that
come from? Or I just got passed by one or whatever.
And they sometimes I'll see it because I may in
the same direction, or they'll be up high enough to
where they can track and see it moving. Yeah, how long.
Sometimes sometimes they'll try and catch up. When that thing
realizes that it's been observed, it goes to straight, it
just disappears. I mean it's going and that's the miles
miles away. Three seconds later they're picking it up again
from another aircraft carrier, going how did they get here
so quick?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: How do they know that they're being observed?
Speaker 3: Like whether it's by the Navy or even by you,
Like that's there's like a we we have it built
in us.
Speaker 2: We're we're a.
Speaker 3: Part of all of them, I believe, to be honest
with you. We all of those metals, all of those
we have earth, their fire, water, spirit. Many of them
are two different elements put together three different we're five
for sure, and then there's many.
Speaker 2: We have gold in us.
Speaker 7: We have so much.
Speaker 3: Right, we're a combination and a relation of all of
them that were created. But so we tap into those
spider senses. But they know when they're being observed. If
one of them wants you to see it, and like
you ask, you can see it. Make that connection. I
see you, it's gone it like they sometimes I feel
like they'll wait for you to see them and they'll
acknowledge it and move on.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Is that a connection? Like the e T movie that
they were feeling each other's emotions? You know these kind
of things. What do you what do you think?
Speaker 1: I check that one smiled at me because I think
I snuck up on it. I think I caught it
by chance. I think we actually just caught it doing
what it was doing. It was like Donald was saying,
maybe my stepson, we're going down as Wilson and nine
and Band Oregon. It was five forty five in the morning.
We were almost to work, and this craft was the
S five spears and the center sphere was a much
larger sphere. Okay, the other other boar were smaller orange
ball like the orange ones that slowly go by, and
there was a total of five of them, and they
were right up over the top of a billboard, over
the top of train tracks on Wilson Street. And as
we're coming up on Business Way that's where we're going
to turn to go to work, this thing was just
kind of sitting there like this right here. Me and
my steps on jaws dropped looking at this thing as
we're pulling up to the turnline and had a complete
cat stop, and me and my steps and we kind
of looked at each other and then we looked back
over at this thing, and we're sitting now, we're just
kind of in awe of what we're seeing. And all
of a sudden, I see this small sphere. At this
point it was only four of them. I see a
small sphere coming over and attaches over to the side
of the craft, and you see the whole You see
the whole craft go like that. And then what ends
up happening next is after after the thing attached, the
whole thing starts looking like it's buoyant, like it's on water,
and then it starts to list towards us, and then
it starts to list towards us. Here's the center one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now it's kind of at an angle like this, and
it's starting to kind of straighten up, and I'm looking
directly at the face of the pilot and this directly
back at me. But before it's looking at me, what
I see is this. It's doing this, and it comes
across like that, and it's putting something across like a
screen that's in front of it, and this is this
is like this thing looked like it was about seven
tight foot tall. It was a very large gray.
Speaker 2: And it was inside of a sphere. What's that?
Speaker 1: It was inside of a sphere, inside of a s
It was looking at me. It was looking at me
through some type of windows screen, you know that type
of thing.
Speaker 4: I could Were they a part of a larger ship
or did they themselves connected?
Speaker 2: Make a shift?
Speaker 1: It was It was one one large sphere, two small spheres,
two small spears in the V formation. Okay, if you
got that shoot, think of think of Jupiter and its moons. Okay,
think about Jupiter and spoon. Sometimes you'll see it. It
looks like there's there's a big ball with uh two
and two it makes like a V. It actually looks
just like that. Then you put you put a large
gray face in the middle of the center.
Speaker 2: And that's what I had.
Speaker 1: Anyway, this thing, it looks at me and smiled at me.
When it smiled at me, that's when things changed. Now
I know it's looking at me, and I dumped the
clutch on my car and I got the hell out
of there just as quick as I possibly could. I
didn't want to be late for work, if you know
what I mean. Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 2: It's kind of strange that you say that when you
were talking about the connection between when it looks at
you and it and it knows that you're watching it.
Speaker 1: So uh.
Speaker 2: We are in production for the second film, for the Middle.
It's going to be called The Middle two C three. Uh.
This is going to be real people, just like Terry.
All these people in our film are real people that
never been on camera before. So I have this this
woman out of Arizona. Her name is Jody Brown. She
was she lives out in the middle of nowhere in Arizona, right,
and this Gordon Brown, Yeah, no Brown, Jody Brown. So
she's a different Jordy. So she she's she spots these
orbs everywhere from a distance. Right. So through the months
that we're going by, she was spottinged every night, every night,
her and her husband sitting outside, and then she would
start calling it, talking to it, and it was they
were getting closer and closer. Now she act she has
a video and I saw the video myself. It's this orb.
It's close to the middle of the afternoon, the sun's
barely going down, and it's literally by a foot in
front of her, right in front of her. So this
is how close this orb has come to her. So
she says, he just comes close. And I have she
sent me man at least one hundred and fifty videos
elarady of this. So she catches this every day and
of course she experiences a lot of things, but the
connection she's starting to make with this whatever it is,
and it's a huge orb, but I would say it's
probably about the size of maybe a small volkswagon the
size of the orb. Uh, And it's it's right there
on the ground. It's like literally above the grass area,
so it's floating there while she's filming this thing. So uh,
and and it's kind of strange that, you know that
a lot of people connect with with extraterrestrials or whatever
you want to call them, you know, like just like
mister Terry Lynch it here to as well, you know.
And and then we have the Cascadia guides on top
of that mountain where they're flying over. And then we
have we've already had a guy in the UK. His
name is keV Andrews, and he what he did was
he put his spectrum analysis over the area that we
found the geoglyphs up there on top of that mountain,
and there is something underneath structure structures. Remember when you
were talking about ESK what you were talking about that
that they leave messages behind and rock or whatever you know,
in stone they put all these Well, we think that
there's a message there on top of that mountain. We
just haven't uncovered it. Yeah, it's just we're only the
surface of the other rock that has been uncovered from
from that big old geoglyph on top of there.
Speaker 3: All this stuff is this next level man, It's uh,
you do you think you have a figured out, you know,
with with just nuts and bolts and the propulsion systems
and a lot of it is is you know, back technology,
and it's stuff we can and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But some of this, so what do you check this out?
Speaker 3: So you're talking about these orbs or whatever, right, the
one of this lady's the size of a Volkswagen in
her backyard kind of thing. There's this weird phenomena. And
let me know, Terry, if you've seen this. But it's
something like that or can be what appears to be
beyond kim trails, beyond clouds, and you can see it,
and then it gets closer closer, closer, and then you
start seeing them around you. But to the eye, they
never change size when they look like the size of
a dime or something to the eye naked eye, but
you can tell they're actually on camera. They're behind stuff,
they're behind kim trails. People say, oh, that's just dust. No,
this goes behind the kim trails, so we know that
it's not in front of It's not just some piece
of dust we're catching behind the kim trail comes out
and comes down in view and now looks like a
little orb or now looks like a piece of dust.
Speaker 2: But it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: So you're talking about the quantum physics of something that
is able to expand and becomes small and to get big.
This is the stuff that muddies the water because oh yeah,
how big are they? Well the sun is this big,
and so that one's that big. Great, but it became
small and or a bunch of them came out of it,
and when it gave itself up, it became small again,
and then it goes and collects other ones.
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about what the hell is going on?
Speaker 3: But have you experienced that, like stuff that seems to
be coming closer But it's the same stuff you're seeing
way out there.
Speaker 4: But it as far as the size.
Speaker 3: Change is like it's very strange to because people are
having the orb encounters because it's all around them, but
it's the kind of the same similar shapes and things
that are out there as well.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's there's is there is that there's I
had this one location we call it black Hole. I
did an interview with Donald out.
Speaker 2: At black Hole.
Speaker 1: We called the hive. Is what we call it black
Hole Hive, And what it is is it's a cindercoon volcano.
We can actually drive right to the edge at the
top of the Cindercone Volcano and out over the top
you look, you look over the edge of it, and
you're looking down into this lava flow area. That's that's
that's a real vast area. And from the top, looking down,
it doesn't look all that pick but if you're down
the bottom, it's like sixty two hundred feet up. How
tall this lava flow actually is. So now you're you're
on top of this lava flow and up in the
distance in between a mountain view between two of b
and the mountain, you see this this one mountain up
in the distance. It's got a big rock base on it.
That's that's where the start, the window go trail starts.
That's also where I had taken video and I had
about thirty five it was about thirty five orbs come
out of the side of that mountain while I was
videoing it, and it was doing it at a very
high high rate. To speak, you have to actually do
the still frame to catch this, you know. With the
way I found it was actually with Chris Hammil, the
Australian gentleman that does most of my filtering. Chris Hamil
had slowed the video down. He put filters on it,
and he'd shown me that these things were slowly popping
out of the side of the face of this mountain
and they were all kind of like, oh, I want
to say, heel, I guess keeal green, real white kilger,
every single one of them. Now you put that up
in the sky. They disappear instantly, these things. But uh,
as it's there, it is there.
Speaker 2: You go.
Speaker 1: Anyway, when when these things start coming out of the
sides of the mountains, you you and uh kind of
kind of trying to figure out what you just seen.
Uh if if it's nighttime, because they start to turn
into that one that more of a fire like a
fireball coming and you get it. You get anywhere along
mountain ranges. I like to I like to use mine
the Cascade of Passage, because that's this is where I'm at.
But any one of these mountain ranges that you can
get yourself in here. Uh, if you were to set
long enough to observe, you're going to start observing these
things as they're coming in and out of the ground. Now,
if you're in a long past area like the big
flat plane.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you so you're seeing them, You've seen them
close to the ground as well.
Speaker 1: Right, so it's not just in the sky, very close
to the ground, coming out of the ground, coming out
of the side of a mountain. I've got them going
over the top of mountains. When I get on top
of the mountain, video down. I've got them going over
the top of the tree line and now I'm looking
down on them. Okay, So what I'm saying is these
things are everywhere. They're everywhere all of the time. Right now,
I can't go I can't go out and do any filming.
I got snow clouds everywhere, and I got snolling. Look
at this picture right here. Look at this picture here, Okay,
perfect example you see.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about like this?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look to the right of it. Look look
to the right that dot. You see that. Now you'll
always see a sphere next to a big ship. So
this is way up in the sky. So this thing
is a huge it's actually a huge ship, probably size
of a car or a bus. And you're always going
to see a little sphere next to this. Is how
you know that it's going to be a real uh
ufo in the sky or uap like what. I don't
know if you've heard of doctor Stephen Greer.
Speaker 4: So that's what you're talking about. It like this the
slingshot kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that no, no, there's always a let's
just say, let's just call the little the little one
on the top right, like a drone. Okay, it's always
watching and it's always watching the big one. They come
in and out of these things, and there's a bunch
of video of it. But doctor Greer, uh, he talked
about on one of his lectures that these uh, some
of the like what you were talking about, Like they
come closer, they seem the same size, they get small.
He said that a lot of these crafts are alive.
They are the pilot controls. How this this craft uh
changes its shape or form. It's biological. In other words,
he says, not all of them. I'm just talking about
some of them. So so some of these craft can
be biological as well. In other words, what you were
talking about earlier. Yeah, they seem small in the sky,
they come close to you, they're small again. Well, they
change it can change its form in a sense that way.
And and uh, this is what he talked about because
he worked with the military, he worked with these uh,
these crafts himself and with the actual restaurants.
Speaker 1: But are you able to pull pull up a picture
of the Cascadia guides for us by chance?
Speaker 2: Are you that I can?
Speaker 3: I can go to it or something on a computer.
It's on the website. See because that because that was
the thing I had. I had a good friend of
mine wanted to do. I showed him a lot of
my footage and he's like, we need to go back
into the ancient artwork and see where these have popped
up kind of thing.
Speaker 4: And this is what you guys have done right exactly exactly, Okay.
Speaker 1: It turns out turns out that these big geoglyphs or
a marker for you when you see something like this
on the ground, that's a distraction. They're making you look down,
not up. So what instead of looking down at this
big beautiful thing that you're looking at, which is cool,
lay the hell down, lookout, just lay down, look up.
You go down to California and blythe they've got several
of them out there in the desert. Big giant geoglyphs
are sitt right along the Colorado River. These things are
things that that are signs for them to say, this
is where we turn to get to the hive over here.
It's a it's a it's a stop sign for them.
That's that's pretty much all every one of those are.
Anytime you see a giant geoglyph, it's that one for you,
maybe for us to marvel that when we stand up
on top of the mountain look down at it, or
being an airplane to fly over it. But the fact
of the matter is is these things. These are are
to guide them to the different locations as become moving
really fast. They need this big thing on the ground.
They need that cam trail so they don't hit the
damn airplane. That I think that personally, I think that
the cam trail. The reason that the airplanes are putting
those out is to let those things know where they're
at so they don't lose airplanes without any explanation. You know,
all of a sudden you have a crash. They don't
know why something blew up, but they don't have anything
that it could have been one of these things going
right through the side of an airplane without even thinking
twice about just going right there because it's got its way.
So if you put a chem trail out there, now
you've got this really long line that tells you where
this thing's at. Now, if you're moving really fast, you're
going to appreciate a really long line to tell you
where something's at so you don't hit it. Like at
that's just a plot.
Speaker 3: Have you have you seen like so the video that
I put out, I've got so much obviously, but I
haven't released a lot at all. But I did release
the one I've got the what I've called the Marcabas
because it looks like the depiction that we have of
the tetrahedron, the six pointed star and.
Speaker 1: Magnetism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put it out.
Speaker 1: That's what that's what that is.
Speaker 3: That's magnetism because it changes Shay too, it becomes a
full diamond.
Speaker 4: It like armors up or something. It turns into a
circle and then.
Speaker 3: Flies away fast, just like you're saying, like being able
to Okay, we'll travel in this form until it's time
to take off and then they'll they'll morph. And that's
the stuff that's like, I don't know, nuts and bolts
aren't doing that kind of thing right, Whether it's it
could be some type.
Speaker 2: Of metal like we're looking at that.
Speaker 3: There's an interesting footage of what is it mercury literally
the name right, mercury, the metal responding to sound and
becoming hard depending on the sound or the tone that.
Speaker 1: You play for. So have you have you noticed have
you noticed just you can actually book this one up
that it's an easy one to find. You take a
giant anble, all right, a great, big, heavy, two and
fifty pound anble, and you put it down in the
side of a pull of mercury. What happens, The anvile floats,
It becomes buoyant. It just removed the mask from from
all this weight gone.
Speaker 3: Another's a Bible story about that, right, well, yeah, that
that people interpret like literal like it was literally like
guys down there with the with the hammer. But now
that you're saying this with throwing the axes and handles
in the water and then they're floating. Oh, it's a miracle.
Speaker 4: But it's obviously for those who are who have the
heart or mind to to think or ask it's these
are these stories are telling something very deeper.
Speaker 1: That's just one of that's just one of the many,
uh superconductive properties of element eighty mercury.
Speaker 2: I sent you some some pictures of the the on
your instant messager. I know you're have access to that.
It's on Facebook. Yeah, on the geoglyph that we found
on top of that mountain. And then, uh, there's an
example of these kind the orbs are probably Terry saw.
This is not the one he saw, but this is
a recent couple of recent photos of somebody caught an
ORB up close and you're able to see the occupant inside.
So I sent you both of those.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, occupant thing that's kind of like
what I saw.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: So here's so let's just I mean, you gotta be
nice about this. So there's a lot of weird stuff
that we're seeing. That's like you kind of gotta focus,
you gotta look to the left.
Speaker 2: So do you see it? Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Some stuff appears more clearer than others, obviously depending on
the camera. I'm not satisfied with my footage, right, It's like,
what do I need the telescope? What do we need
to really get high quality footage? But I'm getting I'm
receiving stuff from from all over the world, just like
I'm sure both of you are, and you're catching stuff yourself,
some of it better than others. But there's a lot
of stuff that you get that that I'm that I'm
getting from people that it's like, I don't know if
that's anything, Like I appreciate you trying and sending it,
but I don't know if this is anything.
Speaker 4: So we're in a we're in a field. We're in
a field that's slippery, you know, because things are taking shape.
Speaker 3: Things are are literally shadows becoming solids and water wild
stuff and getting so much footage in But but what
you've what you've just shared here and I'm gonna try
to see how I can share it on the screen
to show people this is a very clear if it's
if it's legit, which seems to be.
Speaker 1: Something else in mind, I got something else I want
you keep in mind when when objects start moving at
a certain speed in our atmosphere, they create what's called
the hydrogen bubble. Uh we see that on our airports
jets or navy jets when they start moving, uh excess
of monkh Once there you go, that's a perfect that's
like what I was looking at.
Speaker 4: Now has this been now has this been restored?
Speaker 3: Because I've got footage of these of these things as well,
But I've never looked for a window.
Speaker 2: So now you got me like, hmm, so what you're
looking at here is this one was caught in Mexico. Actually, uh,
and and but there's there's on the actual photo itself,
it's uh he shows the original and that and that
part so people don't don't kind of freak out on it.
So what happened is is they he added a lot
of contrast to it, right. So what you do is
is on a lot of these photos you can add
all a lot of contrast, bring bring back, bring down
the darks, everything like that, and you're able and use
a clarifier like an AI clarifier.
Speaker 3: I've been certain, man, you got to send me the
best one because I've been going crazy trying to find
the best ones that I can't the AI stuff ain't
working for me.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, no, it's it's it's what they
use is you know how you've seen this on your
on your iPhone where you can actually get an old
photo and make it into digital right and make it
a clear picture. So when when a lot of these
folks take these photos they're kind of blurry or little
a little scattered, they use these programs to clear them up,
to clear up the image. So this is what you get.
A lot of us were trying to fix this image
because we have the original image and it doesn't look
as close as somebody did this here. They fixed this
really nice. Okay, so you do have the original. Yeah,
you can actually see the occupant inside. We knew there
was somebody there, we could tell by the shape and everything.
But when they cleaned it up and they used this
program that was able to clean up the image a
little bit more, we're able to see this occupant inside
of there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's how we were able to That's amazing.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna have to put these in and I
don't know if these are recording on the camera, but
I will try to bring them in to edit them
in the final version.
Speaker 2: So we're not live.
Speaker 7: So that's good, okay.
Speaker 2: But then the other photo I sent you was of
the actual cast guides that that Terry got on top.
Speaker 1: Of the mountain up there.
Speaker 2: To see the two top ones or the top one
on top one. Okay, that's the actual that's the that's
the guides. Those things are huge. What you're looking at
right there is you're looking at my drone footage, probably
about one hundred and fifty feet to two hundred feet above. Uh,
and that that those guides are huge.
Speaker 4: But down there with them, you can't tell, right, like
can you tell unless you Oh yes you.
Speaker 2: Can, you can, yeah, yeah, yeah you can if you're
standing next to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you we didn't get to get a really nice
image like we got here until I put my drone
up there. Once I got the drone, that we were
able to actually see these these stones, uh you know,
and and they came to shape because of the mass
wasting that happened on top of that mountain. Now mind
you around all these around this that giglyph that you're
looking at right there, it's almost like a sandy thick
sandy loan almost. So when we're walking and it's like
walking in real thick sand up there. So and that
that's what gave us the indication that this got uncovered,
because you can see all the sand and everything that's
kind of like in between the rocks.
Speaker 3: And it's only been uh, you guys, so you guys,
you guys discovered this or is this something that everyone's
known about?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I discovered it, really, yes, it's nobody's seen it. This
is why I mean, we made this documentary because.
Speaker 3: So what's the what's I mean, what's the response been
from from state or from any anybody credential.
Speaker 1: I haven't contacted them yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I'm trying to contact you.
Speaker 1: Know, they're going to send the university up there. They're
gonna shut the area down before I can finish what
I'm doing. And when we're done, I'm gonna tell you
right now we're done with what we're doing, which we
have one more coumentary to finish up. I'm gonna wagon
contact State of Oregon on contact University of Oregon and
then they're gonna go up there and they're gonna they're
gonna make it to where nobody can go into this
area until they do further research. So see, we're not
allowed to remove anything from this location because it's a
national park. It's not just a national forest. This is
a national park. This is at the top of the
Newberry Volcano, which has the one side called Polina Peak. Okay, uh,
this thing, this thing had covered up about six thousand
years ago when the larger city and flow was born,
and it's one of the largest of city and flows.
And I'd have to say in the world that's sitting
there at that location. Uh, the whole mountain has history.
Speaker 2: Uh. There was a.
Speaker 1: Chief up their, chief Polina, which is how come it's
called Polina Peak. Chief Polina took his dog soldiers and
they went up there. This wasn't a good place to
be a fueral white cowboy, a black cowboy, or even
or even a tribe or from a different tribe. These guys,
these guys didn't really appreciate folks going up into their
hunting area as a strong bolcation, so they didn't have
anybody bothering them. They actually had to wait for Chief
the Lina to come out of that mountain. Before he
was he was caught down by the painted heels. But
a side of all of that, he didn't know that
this stuff was up there either. This was there long
before him. It didn't uncover until it was twenty eleven
when it started becoming uncovered. And what happens is the snow,
the snow grabs onto it grabs onto all the particles
and it slowly pulls the debris right off the top
of those rocks. And once it started to unload that
it also shows all over this big debris field that's
around this thing that also on the same way as
was saying earlier. It's mass wasting, is what it's called.
And that that allows us to see these things. The
longer the things up there, and the more the more
accept there, the more things we see. Even even Donald
had made a new discovery up on top of that mountain. Uh,
And it's all part of that same same thing.
Speaker 2: Let me let me break this down real quick for
before people. Right, So, a lot of folks, you know,
there's there's not a lot. There's a few folks out
there that are gonna be like, oh, no, these guys
did it. They put that up there, They did it themselves.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right now. Because we were
eight thousand. I come from Texas. Terry's lived there most
of his life. When we went up on top of
that mountain, I was out of breath every two to
three minutes because of the oxygen level is so thin
that you it's hard to breathe in a sense. So
to move that many rocks in that large amount of
space would have taken a long time to do, you
know what I mean, And it would have taken a
lot of effort.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure what big made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, would have you know, they we would have been
a lot of trouble, you know, And this is something
that would that we know that it's been it's been
uncovered on its own.
Speaker 3: There's too much legit phenomena to fake anything. So these
people are here faking stuff. Anybody who's doing there's too
much legit stuff going on for anyone to muddy the
water and try to do that and discredit your own work,
you know what I'm saying. So that's just silly for
people to to think that there are Charlatans who hear
the story and they can recreate it and and so
many other things that it's going to happen.
Speaker 4: It's as long as there's information out there. People are
doing that. You know, there's Charlatans everywhere, and it tries
to discredit the real thing.
Speaker 2: Right right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But in the in the documentary, like Donald had said
earlier in the documentary, I had sent some foota John
to UH Australia over to Chris Hamil By the way, everybody,
he's the lead seer of a band called Cornstock. Listen
to those guys, they're good. Anyway back to it, he
got into this and he he uh, he got this
footage or I got the footage. He filtered it and
it slowed it down. And these two crafts are dropping
right out of the skyline and right they get to
the there's a little v portion in the mountain. Right
when they get to that, one of the craft turns
up on end and it's a thing and they're directly
over the top, directly over the top of the Cascadia Guides.
Speaker 2: In that video.
Speaker 1: I had put out. I put out other pictures that
shows exactly where you know, he's stacing Matt Adams, she's
stacing Mount Shasta. Anyway, this this is this is something
that they did to say a lot of directions to go.
Uh you see craft that are coming from over over
the pass gage from the west, and you see him
go directly over the top of the guides. So I've
got footage, I got page of it. If somebody said
that they made it, I want to know. I want
to know how they're driving that craft over.
Speaker 2: To We didn't we didn't tell those UFOs to go
over that area at that same time, So terry take
a picture. They didn't tend to themselves, you know. So
how how far are you guys or tearing from Mount Adams.
Speaker 1: That's the middle of Washington State. I'm dead center of Oregon.
Speaker 2: Can you see it? Or no? Yes you can.
Speaker 1: When when i'm when I'm up on top of Planet Peak,
I see as far as Mount Adams, I see as
far south as Mount Shasta, Okay, and I see both
of them.
Speaker 4: So from being on that mountain, you can see the others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one mountain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see California and he can see Washington.
Speaker 4: So you're in the middle of Adams in Shasta.
Speaker 1: I am in the middle.
Speaker 2: And what's your mountain?
Speaker 4: What's your what's your mountain? I say that as the
mountain that's probably where you're from. But what's the mountain?
Speaker 2: A line of peak.
Speaker 1: Polana Peak is the one on on top of and
what it is what's going on here is literally she
is looking at Mount Shasta and he is looking at
Mount Adams. If you walk up to the edge of
the to where he's looking, if you walk up to
the edge of the sheer cliff that dropped straight down,
which it's kind of hard to stand there really if
you're not a mountain flammer. But it's a share cliff
that dropped down and off in the distance, you see
see Mount Hood, you see Jefferson Mount Hood, then Mount
Adams way off in the distance. And then you come
over to the other direction and you see Diamond Peek,
and then you see where Crater Lake is, right right
where Mount Malzuma is, and then off further you see
Mount Shasta way off in the distance. Now when you
get up there with a super zoom camera, you bring
him right to you. Now you've got three thousand millimeters.
You're looking right at the stuff. And mind you, mind you.
Speaker 2: When we were up there filming, when I first went
up there to go film the guides, you know, Uh,
after we were there for about a good hour, was
raining on and off. We we were walking, we were done,
We were walking off, and I happened to have my
camera on at the time.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: We found a fear on the ground, like a shape
of stones on the ground. Terry hadn't even seen these
on his uh on the Google or anything like that.
So we walked upon this and it wasn't like a
fire burning pit or anything like this. This was something
that along before. And then we find out that we
went back on GP on Google and then we noticed
that it used to be like a son sort of, uh,
looked like a son. And it's and it's on this
other side right of the guides. And then then when
Terry was on what I found something here about two
months ago. There's something on the other side of the guides,
on the other side of the female guide that we
found there. It looks like A tried it, almost like
I tried it. That's there. Uh. And these are all
four geological forms that are on the ground that was
put there a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you know I caught his his reaction on camera
on the discovery and on just that the sphere that
we found.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So you'll see that when you watch the movie up
there on it's on Amazon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll have the it's on to b as well.
What's the best place to probably go to Amazon?
Speaker 2: Right? The Amazon commercials, you know you're paying it's on.
It's a real reasonable uh uh. And then to be
of course you're gonna get a bunch of commercials in there,
you know, if you get into that kind of stuff.
But it's pretty up to be.
Speaker 4: So what's so I want to talk to you about
the production and just you know the reception of it.
Speaker 2: Here in a minute.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you about that. But as as
we're mentioning Mount.
Speaker 3: Adams, what's your your your tank or relationship with James
Gillilan and what's going on at he said, he rams
have you been there.
Speaker 2: With the church?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I I haven't met with the individual yet. I do
plan on what I do want to go down. I
want to go to location and observe from the ranch
because I do know that that's location that they had
filled the door opening up on the top. So I
I do want to go down there, and I want
to I want to have some conversation with them. I'm
hoping at some point that if things keep going the
way they're going, okay with the way things are, Uh,
don't don't look at this like we're trying to get
ourselves rich. What we're doing is we're trying to get
those equipment. Okay, that's what we need. I need to that.
It's nice to have the cameras, it's nice to have
the night con and all that. How much nice would
you think if I had a mobile laboratory that I
could aim towards things, if I had a parabolic dish
that I could catch sounds with if I had a
super zoom camera that came up off at the top
of a telescoping old newsman, that I could aim the
camera any direction I want to get up over the
tree line.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I'm with you, and you deserve it.
Speaker 3: You deserve it because you're a student and you and
you guys want this to happen, and like, yeah, the
people who have the equipment don't will A lot of
them don't care.
Speaker 2: They're just like, oh, yeah, we got it.
Speaker 4: Like I Like, I just got a pair of night
vision you know, uh Gen three night vision.
Speaker 2: I just got those.
Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, I'm not impressed with them,
just because I've been able to train my naked eye
over the years, you know, by not having them. But
I wanted to try some so bad. And I'm in
a location where I'm in the Bible belt, you know.
So for me stepping out and talking about this, and
it took a lot in the past. Now you know,
there is money in this. There is consistency that everything
that you know, these that you've been interested in, you've
been you find yourself being led, being guided by your intuition,
if you want to call it that. Some people call
it the Holy Spirit or something to avoids it. It's
something your gut. There's some kind of instinct that has
led you up to this point to be a perfect
conduit for somebody to carry this research, this information, this
stuff that's being hidden from the masses. And what better
person than someone who is a student, who's a child
at heart, who just is you're talking about catching the
reactions on camera. Here's the two sides of what we're
talking about. Is why Jesus chose regular fishermen those kind
of things. It's who they really were on the inside.
But if we watch the movie Et, how two people
were having the same encounter. And I know at the
end of the movie E T when Elliott is sick
and he's he's in him and Et are both sick.
They've become one. They're sharing each other's thoughts, consciousness and
all of this. But there was an interesting thing at
the end, and we're we we ride with Elliott, Elliott
is us right and and and at the end of
Scientists is they're trying to catch Et. They're trying to
find them, they want to do research on them, they
want to cut him open all of this, and Elliott's
like no, like, this is my friend, this is a brother,
and and they they have these exchange of words and
he says Elliott looks up and says, hey, he came
to me first. He came to me, But the research
of the scientists says he came to me too. I've
been such a student. I've been an astrophysicist. I've been
one who is wanting to look into this but falling
into the wrong hands and obviously not can but it
already has. I think it's just now coming back, if
you will, falling into the hands of the general public,
for those who really have a heart for this stuff.
And there's a lot of people who who can't. I say,
can be trusted and that and because they can that
they're being shown things like yourself, Terry R.
Speaker 1: I plan on doing a C five. There's a there's
a location that we have like a go hole in
the ground. It's it's a mile wide crater that's in
the earth out here. Looks almost like a meteorite hit
this location. Actually what it is is a volcanic sinkhole.
There's a bunch of ice on top of her linked down.
There's a volcano underneath. Start a bubble and a whole
a sudden poop turned into this and then collapse. So
you end up with this big, beautiful sinkle ah that
is exactly one mile around, and it's I'm not exactly
sure how deep. It's very deep. It's very deep. It's like, yeah,
well it's it's actually it's in the documentary. Of all places,
we have it in the documentary the Middle. I plan
on doing a CE five out there. I've extended an
invitation to doctor Stephen Greer. Five is his baby. So
basically what happens is they can do it?
Speaker 2: Who can't? Who can get this ship to show up?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Now here's the interesting thing. You sound like, Yeah, well,
you can't be armed at this thing. You can't be
stone drunk, stupid. Everybody's everybody's there with the same mission,
the same goal. And what happens in the C five
is they come down and they stand with you. They
first the appear in the sky and as you're doing
what you're doing and you're filming, you see these things
showing up on this side of you or over over
on the other side of the crowd. As you're filming
and you see this stuff. Stephen Greer and his film uh,
he had done the CE five. They showed a red
being standing next to a gentleman who was like legally dead.
Well in this encounter that they had, this thing looked
like it touted the hands ears. Okay, the man could
hear right after the has happened. He could hear from
that day for it. He was able to carry that.
They had this on film, this location right on top
of Mount Shasta. That's right where I'm at. Man, I'm
I'm right on this. This is what I call the
Cascadia Passage. These things I called I named I named
those things the Cascadia Guides. I'm the woman that found it,
and I figure I came up with the right name.
I mean, it's it's seemed like a good legitimate name.
Speaker 2: Sir.
Speaker 4: For sure, you got to bring another mountain into the mix.
Speaker 2: You gotta see.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel like that when I had my
eyed eye contact, I feel that there was a transfer
of some type of transfer of information that took place.
Otherwise I wouldn't. Honestly, I don't think I would understand
physics the way I do. I don't understand the greater math.
I can't. I can't write out the formula but I
understand the natural version of all of this. This is
this is what doctor Feynman said. Uh, he said. Not
everybody's going to understand the greater math. But if you can,
if you can explain physics to a three year old
child may understand it, then you understand it yourself.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm having fun talking to you.
Speaker 3: Guys, who do you like? You can't really nerd out,
Let's call it nerd out with the technology and even
the spirituality.
Speaker 2: On the technology.
Speaker 1: Get up. I get up almost every morning about four
o'clock in the morning, and then I get up and
I nerd out. What I do is I get on
and I go to Stanford University's physics department, which is
on YouTube. You can find doctor Leonardo Saskay, and every
single one of his two and a half hour lectures
is on there. I've watched them already about three times
each one. We're talking upwards of seven hundred hours. What
else you got to do?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: It only takes it only takes so much time to
learn everything, mister Einstein put out, It only takes so
much time to find out. Uh, doctor Brown's for it.
It only takes you know, every one of these physicists
all have a cut off point when they're when they die,
so you you can kind of read all the way
o their material or or see all their material, or
learn everything, and you don't have to You don't have
to be a rocket scientist. Well, actually you wouldn't be
a rocket scientist if you're working with magnets. Isn't it
wicked anyway, if you're dealing with particle physics at least
uh he's he's a doctor. Leonardo Saskin is the lead
uh physiness and string theory physics in the world. And
he gives he just gives you the course for free.
Ever since I saw that now, first off, like Donald
was saying, I used to love my beer. I like
to That was my life, right, my Harley, go out,
just just do that stuff. That's all I did. Well,
I sold my hardly since I've seen this. I don't
ride anymore. I climb mountains instead, or I will be
climbing mountains socause I'm not injured. I'll be back to
climbing mountains anyway. I like to go to the top
of mountains. I like to get camera gear. I like
to do this. This whole new thing of video and things.
I still have the guns. I have to have the
guns when I go up into the mountains because I'm
not really afraid of the UFO people. I don't think
that my guns are too much to them. But its
bears and cougars and all kinds of things that'd like
to like to see this guy that can out run anything.
I got to be able to at least have some
kind of stand.
Speaker 2: Video of the making of the of the middle of
the making of the documentary. We do have a small
twenty minute video. It's on Alien strand there on YouTube,
and you'll find it on my Legs Productions too. It's
there too on that YouTube. Yeah, about twenty minute, and
it shows you what we did, the high that we did,
everything that we went through to go record this movie
and film this movie. And it's it's about twenty minutes long,
but it's it's it's a good thing. And watch it
to the very end because it's it's got a nice
surprise at the very end after the credits. So after
the credits, check it out. I'm talking about the twenty
minute the making up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, yeah, man, this this stuff is
so exciting because I think it's uh for for us
as a society.
Speaker 4: It's coming back to the in city open again.
Speaker 3: It's like what was only for the priests class or
for the top lines of the government, which they I
guess feel still is it's now trickled down to whoever's interested,
and all you got to do is ask and go
out with your cell phone or whatever. It sounds like
you're kind of already tapping into or at least a
perfect candidate for the CE five initiative for yourself for
that that mountain. So are you are you experiment experimenting
with asking them to come or tapping into meditation you
you're talking about, You're still getting these downloads, so most
likely they're around you, either cloaked or whatever, sending these things,
these thoughts and information to you telepathically. So for you
to get them to show up with a group or
that kind of expectation, uh expected.
Speaker 7: See.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel like we're going to
have contact that night. It's the passageways and the pathways
that we have in this location. I've replacing the group
directly underneath their their pathway. That's literally why I say
we should go to this spot. It's real easy. You
find you find a place that's kind of a hot spot,
someplace that you've heard a lot about UFOs and before
this you didn't really hear much about except you hear
stuff at Shasta, you hear stuff at Adams. Yeah, that's it.
You never heard anything about what's between the two. Okay, Well,
this is the pathway. This is where they're going. They're
going between that mountain to that mountain. And when I say,
when I say Cascadia passage, now keep in mind this
passage goes into a diagonal. You remember how I said
it goes out from and it splits out from the equator. Well,
this right here goes down to a finite point out
to the Grand Tee times in the Rocky Mountains. Okay,
you know Jackson Hole, Wyoming is.
Speaker 2: Right off.
Speaker 1: That's also the middle between Mount Shasta and Mount Adams.
That's also another middle point. Now you gotta now, you
gotta triangle. Okay, So anything that falls underneath that triangle,
there's you wouldn't believe that things in the objects that
are on the ground. There's a geoglyph that we discussed
it a tiny bit while we're up at the top
in the middle when we me and Jonathan are sitting
and having a conversation beside the Cascadia guides. I bring up,
there's an other geoglyph. That's a place called uh Analog, Yes,
the analogue Refuge.
Speaker 2: What's that, Yeah, analogue refuge, and I love refuge. It's
it's uh.
Speaker 1: They call it Heart Mountain analoge refuge. And out in
the Heart Mountain Analog Refuge is a place called Fluke Lake. Well,
right beside Fluke Lake is a giant geoglyph. We're talking
on the scale of miles in size, all right. If
you walk down into the Antelope Canyon, which is right
beside it, you'll see a petroglyph on the side of
the wall, and this big petric glyph that's on this
wall if you were to turn it up like this,
and it's basically that's what's behind it. It's this giant geoglyph,
and the whole petric glyph is if everything that you're
looking at, if you were like above it in a
balloon or an airplane or something.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I remember remember when when Terry was talking about the
spiral thing that how we all see those in those
in the geoglyphs or petroglyphs. Well, in that geoglyph that
he's talking about, when you when you go above Flute Lake,
go to your Google Maps, look down, and you're going
to see that spin. It's going to be like a
spin of a big geoglyph. Huge. I'm talking huge, massive
in miles, that's how big this thing is.
Speaker 1: So it almost looks like dozers put it up. But
keep in mind, this is an animal refuge. That's Christine.
Nobody's touched it, yeah, nobody and Native Americans the only ones.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy how you were talking about
how Terry, you know, how they communicate with Terry, and
how maybe they planning the seed for him to get
more disclosure out and just to get it off, get
it out there in a in a way to where
people can understand right where he was talking about physics.
Speaker 3: Were you talking about Tesla too, Like we know that
he was talking about being in touch with or with
alien technology or or or waves that were being downloaded
to him and from from another plant it or from
the air anyway, you know.
Speaker 2: So and those those are the conversations that me and
Terry had. He we just talked about this a few
months ago. He said, man, you know what, don man,
I was supposed to meet you. I don't know how,
but I was supposed to meet you. We were this
was supposed to happen. And he tells me these things,
you know, and I'm like, you know what, I think
you're right, because now you know, we're we're pulled into
something that we're starting to dissect little by little, little
by little, and we're starting to show people how to
do these things and how to uh and have these
podcasts with you as well, you know, to show folks
that these this stuff is real and it's out there.
We're just trying to figure out what it is, you know,
and and uh like well, like Terry said, you know,
I was I was supposed to meet you. I was
supposed to do this. We were supposed to do this, man.
Uh And he goes, don't don't tell me how I
know this or what makes me think, but this is
supposed to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: It's been unfolding for the past you know, year, year
and a half now. And the film actually came out
on January twelfth. It's released on Amazon.
Speaker 4: So what's the reception been like as far as the
UFO community and the viewership.
Speaker 3: Is it tapping into the algorithms now that this stuff
is going on, like putting putting this stuff out yourself
and kind of having your own you know budget, have
to do it yourself essentially, Like how's it been to.
Speaker 4: Be independent and take on a big task like this?
Speaker 1: You know, is it?
Speaker 2: Is it reaching out Facebook a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The process though of putting this all together, I mean
I did all the editing. My son helped with the sound.
You know, we all put this thing together. It took
me four months to edit this whole whole and it's
this This movie is an hour and seventeen minutes long.
So for each one minute a film you're watching in there,
it took me four to five hours for each one minute. Anyway,
by the time we got out two platforms, it took
two to three months to get all the you know,
dot the i's across, the t's, YadA YadA, all that
good stuff.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's actually doing very well out there on Amazon Prime.
You know, we've getting we're starting to move on. As
far as rankings, there's a major ranking system. We were
like at two hundred and forty seven thousand, which means
that the larger number means that we're still in the back.
We're now moving to one hundred thousand. So the lower
the number, the better the rank, the better we're doing.
So I know that the film's doing well and it's
not and it's it's it's it's a very budget, low
budget film in a sense. But it was done. You
know a lot, We've getten a lot of clause from
the way it was done, it was put together, and
and just the message that was that's coming out of it,
especially from the UFO community. Now Terry's in about seventeen
eighteen groups of UFOs, which have you know, a couple
of thousand people in these in these groups, right, and
we've got nothing but love and respect from a lot
of these folks that that was doing. It was a
wonderfu thing you've got.
Speaker 4: You've got nothing but love and respect there.
Speaker 3: So you ain't got like some of the dusters or
I've been researching this phenomenon for years and you guys
are just catching but you said all of it's been.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, we'll get one or two, you know, badass,
you're gonna get You're gonna get a troll in there.
You know, you know that that's one thing that I've
learned from a lot of film directors and stuff. You know,
at first I was looking at the comments and you know,
some folks, I mean, I'll put you this way, a
lot of people love the Titanic. You sit there and
you watch The Titanic over, you know, it's a great,
wonderful film. You're gonna get that. One guy I hit
that it was just crap, you know what I mean.
So you're gonna get You're gonna get that. So we're
we're we start we kind of stopped looking at those things.
We're pushing forward and forward to for more disclosure. And
now we have a group called Alien Strand Disclosure Project,
So we are starting that. We started this and this
is with a bunch of eupologists, right uh, that have
come together and it's very there's only like what one
hundred and thirty of us there so and all of
us majority of us are there are euthologists, but then
there's like about twenty percent are people that are learning
that want those and want to learn how to be
a euthologist.
Speaker 4: Invite each other group, please, I need I need to
nerd out with you guys.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, ASDP is what we're called the ASDP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll send you an invite, uh and and it's
by invite only and then right here, So what we
do is we a lot of the folks in that
group would throw their own videos out there, their own
photos out there, and we all analyze them together as
a group, and we kind of figured out, okay, this
is here, that's there's real.
Speaker 4: Is that might not be real or.
Speaker 2: You know, majority of our stuff that's on there, I'm
going to say about ninety eight percent is going to
be real. So you know, that's that's how we.
Speaker 4: There is too early for that, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: So it's just when there's an Irish somewhere the So it's.
Speaker 2: Just that that's what that group what we're trying to do.
And and you know it's it's a small group, but
we're teaching people how to do this, you know what
I mean? And and and and they learn to sense
to even like I have another page where with my
podcast is every once in a while I get trolls
in there, and.
Speaker 3: Respect the love and support is big because the trolls
are out there and well, let's say not even trolls trolls,
coma doma dozen gatekeepers gatekeepers. Those are the ones you
got to watch out for, the ones who don't want
you to take their platform, the ones who won't let
you share the film in the group because you made
it right, a fan could share it, Hey, check this out,
it's awesome, But if promoting his own film in our group, like,
those are gatekeepers and they are in uthology, my friend,
and they are They try to control the narratives.
Speaker 4: And it can't be what you say it is because
we own.
Speaker 3: The stable and on the market and I am the
profit who they chose that you got all of that
in there, So all of the love and the shares
and people resharing and buying and supporting it goes a
long way because there's such animosity with the gatekeepers.
Speaker 4: So listen, you didn't invite us to your table. We'll
build our own table. Let us borrow your night vision
goggles or your nikon, will buy our own nikon, because
the people want this, and you'll find out what the
support what you're already receiving.
Speaker 3: And hopefully my audience listening to this, you guys will
will will hear me and and tell you guys to
go check it out because we need to. We need
to support this for sure. Like I mean when I
click the link, I get stuff like this all the time.
Speaker 2: You know, this is a growing.
Speaker 4: Industry, if you will.
Speaker 3: And to see what that what you guys were bringing
to the table that said, oh wow, it's similar to
what I'm seeing. Now, I got somebody that I can
roll ideas off of at least, and oh it's nothing bald.
So yeah, it's our government. Because you're gonna have people
that are that's all they know, they're not. You can't
tell them any different that it's only dust. It's only dust.
They haven't encountered it, they haven't experienced it. And so
to have people who are open for the conversation, who.
Speaker 4: Are like giddy like a kid when it comes to this,
this is where this is the energy there that I
feel they work with anyway.
Speaker 2: So and we're the people that have the boots on
the ground, just like yourself. Now now you got your
boots on the ground. Now you get your your your
feet planet in the dirt. Now you're taking the pictures,
Now you're shooting the video because you saw something. Terry's
the same way, He's got his boots on the ground.
Anybody can jump on a computer say that's not real,
or that's not that's great, that's cgi or whatever, when
you actually took the video yourself, you know, and then
you're trying to prove to the world it is real. Man,
I just saw this and it's on my camera. Right.
You know, when you talk to folks like us, we're
not going to shun you. Man, We're not going to
do that to you. You know, We're we're going to
show you exactly what you're seeing in this guy. We're
gonna teach you how to do this right. And that
way you can teach somebody else, you know what I mean.
So that way, when it comes to being in a
different group and somebody gets trolled on or shunned or whatever,
you can actually say, no, you get their photo, you
you you analyze it, you put it in your spectrum,
and you post it on their on their comments, this
is what it is, bam, and right there, and then
they shut up. They stopped. They're quiet from then on
because they know that you know that what you're doing
with your boots on the ground, you're trying to figure
out exactly what you're seeing, just like we are.
Speaker 3: At least trying. At least you trying and and sharing,
and man, it goes a long way. Yeah, I mean
I'm excited to Like I said, I watched it, but
I think I put it on fast forward. You know,
there's just when you're bringing in so much you know, information, man,
just like Okay, I just gotta we watched We watch
the movies are Wail the other night and I watched
all of it and I fell asleep at the end.
And my wife, I'm like, hey, what happened? And She's like,
you shouldn't have fell asleep. So I'm like watching it
in between stuff and I've like got it on, like
turn the speed all the way up.
Speaker 7: So he's talking.
Speaker 4: Input input input. I just need the input. So I
want to go back and and watch it and slow
mode and watch it in real time. Kind I kind
of did to, uh to the footage what I do
to my footage, either slow it down or fast forward
to really see what's going on, but to get the
gist of it, to know that, Uh man, I want
to have this conversation with you guys and and and
promote your work and encourage you to keep doing it.
Speaker 3: And uh, we're getting to the bottom of some interesting things.
Maybe we'll never get to the bottom, let's say that.
But you know, it's it's a hobby and it is
a spiritual connection. It's it's helping so many people with
these films and and just be you going out there
spending it.
Speaker 4: They don't know what goes into the stuff.
Speaker 3: They don't know how many hours you sit out there
or stare at the computer slowing stuff down and oh
is that one, let's edit it?
Speaker 4: And then now they get a photo. Oh that's crappy.
Speaker 3: Where you don't know what it took to travel the
mountain to capture it, to bring it back down all that.
So salute to both of you guys with your boots
on the ground. One question I do have here towards
the end. Have you seen anything, if not all of it,
that has scared you, because any of this is it scary?
Speaker 2: If not all of it?
Speaker 1: Right, it's NonStop intimidating. That the level of intimidation. First up,
when you're on top of mountain, you can look down
and you can see an ambulance way up in the distance,
or a buyer truck or a police officer pulling somebody over.
But you're up on top of that mountain and there's
nobody else up there, and then all of a sudden,
something goes past you and you realize that something went
past here you're sitting there. Here's here's the one that's
going to really make everybody feel good. You never feel
like you're being watched. They are, Okay, they are watching,
and that's what it is. That's what you're feeling right then,
at your inside intuition is telling you right then, when
you feel like you're being watched and you're looking around
to see if there's somebody standing in a building or
behind a tree, look up, many look up first. Just
look up first. If you hear something that sounds like
a mountain lion, look that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's really cool that you touched
down on the people that you call the gatekeepers or
whatever you want to call them. We've run across several
in our time. We actually had had them in the ratings,
like like Donald was saying, we had a couple of them.
We know exactly who the people.
Speaker 4: They won't let you come on their podcast.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's it's worth They hit us on the
ratings and they give us they give us this real
horrible thing, and they forgot. What they forgot was that
were researchers. First comment, we're worse than any copper detective
there ever, was because we're looking for things nobody believes in. Okay,
so we're researchers and and we know how to we
know how to figure things out. It's real simple when
they put the region that they're from on their on
their email like they're trying to bee. Yeah, little keywords,
keywords that you see throughout their whole thing, that you've
seen them viciously say to other people. So we we
I'm not I'm I'm like that. I'm not going to
say the person's name or any of that. That's not
what I'm about. What I am about is just remember
if you see the reviews, know that that individual, he's
mad because he wasn't invited. That's that's basically what it was.
He wasn't invited along the way he in the beginning,
he wasn't bited, but he decided that everybody else he
was better than, and it had all been his way,
and it wasn't his documentary, but it had to be
his way. So he decided to assume another name and
give us one of the worst for you. I think
he called me a gray haired idiot or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we hear all kind of stuff. But but again
that negativity. Listen, that's why the positivity means so much.
So every good comment. So for you to go to
watch it and to buy it and purchase it, make
sure you click that five star. Make sure you say,
oh my god, this is awesome. If you have criticism,
let it be known. Let you know, let it be
known the research, because we pay attention to those those things,
and we pay attention to the real ones.
Speaker 2: And the weird thing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they let people comment who haven't even watched it
or purchased it. I've got like because I've got the
same thing. I got a book out and they let
they let people comment and rate who didn't even buy
And the writing had something nothing to do with my book.
It had to do with this person does this on
their websites, like right once I got to do with
the Price of Rise in China, Like yeah, I'm probably.
Speaker 1: With the vole that they did it because it's the
only two on there's only two that are on there
like that. The rest of them think you could clearly
tell the movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you asked the question of the
fear of it, and I'm going to ask my part.
So uh at first, you know, I I my thing
was not the fear, but was the just the questionnaiary
part of it. You know, what is this? What are
these things that the inquisitive that's me, I'm the inquisitor.
I just I'm just kind of wondering what these things are, right. So,
and then once I started to do my podcast, My
podcasts are about like a lot of stories, older stories
that from the past, nineteen forties, nineteen fifties, abductions, people
that go to these things now, to all those stories
that were told in all those you know, and they
were put down on other books. On the books. You
know that these were different kind of beings. You know,
some were nice, some were not so nice. You know,
a lot of them did these bad things to you.
Some of them didn't. There they treated you like human being,
you know, they treated you like a person, like love
and capassionate. Some were just after your blood or your eggs,
you know, or they were wanted to dissect you in
a sense, to try to get some kind of information
or something out of you. There's these there's evil ones
out there and there is good ones. So when you
go out there and try to call these things. Now,
I don't know if you've seen this show called Missing
four one on one documentary, but he on his documentary
he talks about that a lot of these people that
go missing in these areas, they're always alone. They're always alone,
or they get separated from a group and then they disappear,
and that you don't see them at all until a
month later, wherever on top of a mountain somewhere where
they couldn't get on top of right, how did they
get up there? Or you know, of course you've ceased,
you know, because it's it's been a long time. But
when you do this, the fear is there of that.
There is the fear of which one am I crossing
paths with today, you know, But majority of them, me personally,
I just think if they want to communicate and communicate,
they will, and I'm sure they will. Those will probably
be the good ones if they come to talk to
you know, things like that, and it's not talk to
you but kind of communicating that sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to show up like I'm under the I'm under
the impression which I think most of the world is
now that the people who are running things aren't the
best people or connected with the best intentions.
Speaker 4: So knowing what they know and knowing who.
Speaker 3: These are these people are, I feel like the good
guys are better than the ones who are running things.
Speaker 2: Now, let's say that.
Speaker 3: So there's this hope, and I know that's where religion
and all that kind of stuff comes from. But with
that being said, there's all there was that fear for
me going out and doing a CE five.
Speaker 2: Are you really going to do it?
Speaker 3: And it was like you got to move beyond the
fear somehow, or you'll never do it, You'll stay home. Hey,
it'd be a cool idea, but what if the bad
ones come. There's a scripture in the Bible, and it
was a stable for me when I started going out.
But it's where Jesus says that if you ask your
heavenly Father for a fish, he's not going to throw
you a serpent. He's not going to give you a scorpion,
something that's going to hurt you. If you ask your
heavenly Father for a loaf of bread or sustenance, he's
not going to give you a stone and so how
much more will your father give to you something good?
If you ask him? You're not so going out? What
is asking?
Speaker 2: What is prayer?
Speaker 3: Obviously that can be broken down to intention, like my
intention is to come out here and to make contact,
and I come in peace, you know, or you can
say the prayer the kind of thing, And so that
knowing that or believing that helped me to go out
and say, hey, Father, God, whoever you are that created me,
will you allow me to see one? Can I see one?
Will you allow one to pass by my face? If
they're traveling back and forth from heaven to earth, like
the Bible says, can I see one?
Speaker 4: And then I started seeing them, and then they started evolving.
Speaker 3: This is years ago, This is in two thousand and eight,
and so when you move beyond the fear, but it's
still but I think the deeper you come into it,
you know you got to keep doing it because the
more research you uncover, you find out new things, and
you find out you know that there were ancient gods
that ate humans, or people sacrificed other humans to other gods,
and the Mayans even and all supposedly these things were
going down. So yeah, like you know, all the questions
are there because we don't know the narratives, and probably,
like we're been talking about, there's a bunch of them
that overlap in a bunch of different types of beings.
Speaker 4: But I think what you attract or what you your
intention is is what you see. I think that's how
the spirit world works anyway, and I think that they're
traveling back and forth through what we call the spirit world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they could have. They could have taken
Terry and his son that night. They could have. Maybe
they did, They didn't, you know.
Speaker 1: They that's a very fast super and they went way
kind of like way.
Speaker 2: And smiled that. So of course you're you're talking to
some something that saw him or whatever he saw was
intelligent of course, and was communicating with him some way,
some way that probably you and I have not been
able to experience yet, and the way he experienced it,
so to give him that eye opening or mind opening, Uh,
something happened to him, you know what I mean? So, uh,
are they bad ones up there? Yeah? There are going
to be someone there, good ones? Yeah, And just like
you said, you attract the good ones, you attract the
good ones. So Terry happened to be there at the
right time, at the right moment, five point thirty in
the morning, you know, during the lunar eclipse or and
and it just you know, he happened to come across
something that he had never seen before. And that's what
that's what this film is about. Whatever he found afterwards
and everything, you know, it all came together. It all
came together and like one big I don't know, it's
kind of hard to say, like a like a plan,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of orbs coming together forming a ship
came together like that.
Speaker 1: There. You don't they know why they want to duck me,
because that's still their ship. All about it, buddy, I'll
be all about taking it from him. Sorry about your place,
to show you what I got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling that. I'm telling everybody you know, like
you'll keep.
Speaker 2: It to your.
Speaker 1: Don't leave the keys in the ship. If I find it,
there you go, there you go. I want to take
your car.
Speaker 3: I'll take your car if I don't know if you
got checked out any any of my work, but obviously
I'm I'm I'm totally into this as well as student
and and I do music So I've been doing hip
hop rap about UFOs and stuff for years now, and
so I've got rap songs about the mountains in Mount Shasta,
uf fos, up top mount sastating the fire.
Speaker 4: All that kind of stuff. So if you got any
music for the soundtrack music, I.
Speaker 1: Want to hear one of your raps on Mount Shasta
and the UFOs.
Speaker 2: Donald.
Speaker 1: What's the chances of that being part of something?
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's a high probability chance.
Speaker 1: That's a high probability, dude. You you just said I
think we're supposed to meet him today.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think soundtrack.
Speaker 2: I love it, man, and people.
Speaker 4: I love sprinkling it out there for people who don't
know it right, because that's what you're man.
Speaker 3: They don't they don't see what goes. They only see
what you show them exactly. They don't see the hours
of And I'm at the point now, which I'm sure
you will tell you, Like a certain days, there's so
much footage which one do we zoom in on.
Speaker 4: Have you seen that where like the sky is like
littered with craft?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have my Okay, So my wife caught something
that neither me or my step son saw. We all
went out we walked uh plane of peak. I can
see blanet of peak perfect from the edge of my driveway.
So we walked out to the edge of my driveway
and my saw what looked like sparkles going across, almost
like almost like a firework that went on. She's the
only one that saw it. It really ticked us all
up because it was the first one she had seen,
but none of us got to see it. It was
It was quite amazing when you see these things like
that for the first time, seize it for the first
and then everybody else is like, what happened? Where was it?
You know, you got a whole group of people looking
around trying to figure out what's next.
Speaker 4: Because you don't know what to look for until you
because now you do though for some shimmering.
Speaker 1: Now you were saying something earlier about different types of craft.
Think about it this way, Okay, how many cars? How
many different types of cars and airplanes and boats and
different type of craft do we have on the planet
right now?
Speaker 2: Just humans all right?
Speaker 1: Different modes of tradition from a skateboard to to win
welt hang gliding. I mean, we have all these different
types of crafts. They have the same bang. Okay, they
have all the same stuff. They live below us, they
live above us. We live right here in the middle.
Speaker 4: Above them, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And below I want you to. I want you to
remember this one. Okay, same as above, above and below
are the same. Ye as above is so below. You
understand Do you understand that as above, so it is below.
I'm not trying to say any kind of witchcraft or
any crap like that. What I'm saying is that saying
that little saying yeah, as above, so it is below,
meaning that below us is another whole cities like everything.
They've got their own structures, they've got their own I mean,
I can't tell you if they're sitting there watching our
podcast right now. I can't tell you if they're walking
along a wall like a damn wizard and catching bugs
because you know that's what they might eat or whatever.
But they definitely know how to fly a craft, that
know how to move around, and they found a more
simple way than we have. If you keep in mind
that this planet is a big engine creating electricity the
whole time. Every time you're spins, which it does not
stop spins, you got clouds moving the opposite way right,
you're creating a friction that becomes static electricity. Right here.
Rub your hand on a balloon. You got a balloon.
Things anyway, the clouds, the hydrogen and the helium and
all the wonderful things that are up there. I mean,
it's it's like a river up there. Asked California about
rivers the sky anyway you've got you've got this river
flowing above us. You've got oceans below us. Things are
buoyant when you put them up in those clouds. Things
will float. Things, things that shouldn't flow float there. Okay,
think about think about that anvile thing I was telling
you about with mercury in the water. You take you
take the mercury, You put the anvil outside the mercury.
All of a sudden, the animal's point. Okay, that's a
two hundred and fifty poun an ball. It's bloken in
this quickly. You can move it around like it's nothing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Science, you've got science backing you up. You've got science
backing you up on all this stuff. It shows you
that it's an applied thing, is something we can actually use.
Don't look at quantum as as witchcraft. A lot of
people want to look at as witchcraft, quantum fields, things,
simple things like photons. All this stuff is things we
we see, we observe. When you read a photon, you
observe a photon. It dies that moment. Each photon does
what's called quantson integnment. You've got a quote here, a
photon here. They're going to meet and that's what their
job is. That's all they do. They need and then
you can you can do simple experiments like the two
split experiment that shows you how light itself becomes something
that can go out like a water fountain. You know,
it flows out into different columns. You put two slits
on the wall and you shine a light through it.
You end up with with a whole bunch of columns
on the other side. That's that's because those photons are
flowing like water. Light flowing like water. It goes any
direction once, just like water. Okay, photons will bend, they'll
go around the planet. Okay, So when we're observing something,
we're looking at a planet, all right, like something's looking
at Earth and they want to see around us. The
light actually bends around and we actually see the stuff
that's on the other side. Of that planet, because first
tough one is distance of proctivity, and then the rest
of it is bending the light. And that's how we
see so well with telescopes and things like that. You
see all these wonderful giant wells that spiral down in
India and all throughout all these different countries. You know
how some of these look like giant keyholes. I don't
know if you noticed, but a lot of them look
like a key hole.
Speaker 2: What this is?
Speaker 1: They're not a whale. I mean, yeah, you can go
down and get your water. You can get a.
Speaker 2: Drink from it.
Speaker 1: But that's not what that wasn't built for. That was
a telescope. Everybody says, what are these things? They're all telescopes. Man,
you're what it does again? In the dark tube, it
goes all the way down to the mirror, which is
the water, and now you can take but I would
use a pair of bonotul but they would use like
a looking glass, and you look at the images that
are inside the water. Now you've captured that light and
now you're going to amplify it that way. They made
a telescope. These are ancient tools. Everything's ancient.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: By the way, for looking me in the eyes. I
would have never been able to guess this on my own.
I appreciate it all.
Speaker 2: Hey man, hey, this is amazing. Guys.
Speaker 3: It's a big deal. And uh yeah, everything's coming. Everything
you you want to even play with the technology, it's
all coming. It's all going to be funded. It's all
coming to you. And so you can do bigger and
better things. Because you've used what you've been given and you, guys,
have been trusted with it, You're going to get way more.
It's amazing. There's so much out there for you to
experiment and to see and to put that posture of
your heart that is your prayer right and so.
Speaker 4: Can I trust you with it? Yeah, these guys are
These are good dudes.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Keep being good dudes.
Speaker 1: And you're going to keep my suggestion. My suggestion is
see the middle, learn what true disclosure is. Once you've
seen our documentary, they're going to want to see the
second documentary. Each time you see this, it gives you
links not only not only going to see this, but
it gives you links to alien Strate Disclosure Project. I'm
i am the research director. Donaldodasma is the director. We
have different euthologists from around the world. Once you've seen this,
it's kind of a nice delivery to shoot yourself right
in to becoming a ufologist, because what you're learning is
true disclosure. And this way, if once you've seen our movie,
you have more of an understanding of who we are,
what we are, what we want to try and achieve.
Here again, we're not trying to get rich. We're trying
to get equipment. We're trying to get ourselves to where
we can become something that lets the people know exactly
what's in the skyline. I want to I want to
become the integrity of this.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: You know guys guys like Giorgio Tubaclos I like his hair,
man I wish I had.
Speaker 2: I would love to have his hair.
Speaker 1: I would do the same thing if I had that
kind of hair. I guess.
Speaker 2: People like that.
Speaker 4: There's some there's some people who maintain their integrity. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's there's different people out there.
You end up, you end up with different people. We've
lost one. There was a dedication to John Edmonds. Uh
he was he was in this document or there was
a memorial to the to him in this documentary. He
was supposed to be in the documentary, but he had
passed away in the process.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He owned Stardust Ranch down in Phoenix, Arizona. It's got
its own whole story to itself down in Goodyear, and
he's written books and he talks about it's called the
Alien Ranch of Phoenix. And they're sitting along the side
of the Estrella Mountain Range. Well, on the other side
of the Estralla Mountain Range is one of our disclosure
uh researchers. This guy. This guy's sitting over there on
the other side at Tino Diegos and this guy has
no stop footage confirming every single thing that John Edmonds
had to say. John Edmunds didn't know him. I love
that John Edmonds didn't know Tino. Tino didn't know John Edmonds.
I introduced the to him. They became friends just before
John died.
Speaker 2: Before he died, and John Edmonds got to experienced kind
of like walking with the Grays. So there, yeah, he
got to experience that before he died.
Speaker 1: So but no, it has some violence. He had some
violence occurer with it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's that's like he said, that's just a
story on its own. You know that that hopefully we
can Yeah.
Speaker 4: This is what I know.
Speaker 3: Listen with us being I say, kids are nerds of this.
We could talk for days and hours and we do
that right with our podcast and with our media and
putting stuff out there. But man, we could keep going
and we have to do another part. Man, let me know,
we'll do it again. I talk about this stuff all
day and I know you guys can too. And anytime
you guys want to come back on and do this,
let's make it happen. Go to Amazon, type in the middle,
UFO the Middle documentary. Throw those keywords in there because
they help associate, right, and guys watch the documentary by it.
It's only a couple of dollars. Make sure you leave
the five star review as I've done it and I'm
going to do it again, and uh because it's good stuff.
So man, let's let's do this again.
Speaker 2: Man. I enjoy this stuff. Man, Well, definitely thank you
for having us on the show today. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 7: You know, I hope your.
Speaker 2: Audience learns a little bit about us and about the documentary,
about the whole process of euphology. And then we just
go from there. You know we'll be glad to get
on another show. Thank you so much. Sure, sure, thank
you so much for Thank you.
Speaker 1: You're also welcome to come join us at Aliastrate Disclosure
Project and become a ubologist. I'm going to take a
look at your work specifically, I'm going to see if
you qualify as being an actual epologist.
Speaker 4: I don't qualify because of who you ask.
Speaker 1: Here's what I do, because I take a look at it,
and I have other people take a look at what
you've done and the types of things that you're reporting
and how you're doing it. And if it turns out
you have your own procedure, it's our procedures work in science,
you have to have your own procedures. When you have
your procedures and you share them with us and we
share ourts with you, nobody's right, nobody's wrong. As long
as your procedures are working and you're doing it your
way and you know how to do it, and you're
actually showing something verifiable. I don't care if you see
it with your eyes, if you're showing it with camera,
it's it's perfect, Okay. It doesn't matter how you do it.
There are so many ways to do apology. There's not
one way, not just one, there's several. Anybody who gets
set in the one set mine, they can they don't
have to bother becoming. Part of this was that at
night time you got to go ahead. We don't want
you to tell us how to do it.
Speaker 4: We already know.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of us we already know. But what
I do want to know is how you do it
that way? I can try it that way too, is
if maybe I guess something on that result.
Speaker 3: Well, I've been thinking filming outside of the sun, but
the sun has been like That's why I want to
even ask you, have you guys been filming the sun?
Speaker 2: Like, have you guys done that?
Speaker 1: We've been getting a lot of there's a lot of
particulars that moved through past. When I say particulars, I
call them particulars because I'm into particle acceleration. That's that's
what I see them as, is this is their science project.
They're sending one this way, they're sending one this way.
They're coming back from around the world, and they're meeting
back to the craft and going in. Okay, they're grabbing
their data, they're coming around there, going back.
Speaker 3: Yet, well let's end with this. There's I think it's
Sevador Dora who has a picture. I think that's who
it is. And I showed it on my my Macappa video.
But go watch watch it. The algorithms have been really
good to me on Facebook on that video Makapa, it's
like one of my biggest videos right now.
Speaker 4: But I shared, So there's rain this is so many.
There's rainbows around the sun right like like the sun.
Speaker 3: You start seeing prisms, there's spectrums and colors of light,
and that thing gets big. It's right on the sun
some days and other days. It gives this illusion of
what you say illusion. It's called a sun halo, but
it because really corona and the Sun's in the middle,
and then there's two lights on the side of it,
the of the rainbow. And it's like I'm catching this anomaly.
Some days I can't see it. But I bought a
pair of Dycyan and Ora goggles which block out certain
UV rays.
Speaker 4: It's like yeah, and so, but then I was like, oh, wow,
that's what the kim trails are trying. That's what that
while there's so much activity and now I found they've
never let this thing show up on like, look at
it in all of its glory.
Speaker 3: Let's say that, let me behold it without you taining it.
But some something's going on anyway. There's this old painting
Salvador Doray of these myriads of angels around the sun,
and some of them seem like they're going one way,
others are going another, and it's just angels like types,
and it's just moving out. And with some of the
footage of the sun, you're talking about spinning them both
ways and generating energy, Like around the Sun.
Speaker 4: There's energy that that.
Speaker 3: I've got filmed that when you turn the gamb up,
you can see that's spinning one way. It is a
wheel within a wheel, like looking at the sun. Look
and then the next layer is a different color and
it's spinning the other way. And then inside of it
are beings in ships that are going with the motion
as you're coming out.
Speaker 2: Of the sun. Man, Like, this stuff is so.
Speaker 3: Mind blowing, But the ancients knew, they've been hiding it
in their religious iconography and art and those kinds of things.
Speaker 4: It's been a beautiful thing to kind of uncover and
see it with.
Speaker 2: The technology.
Speaker 1: Do you happen to another sun's name, which one are
so full? Correct?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: That that exactly what it's called the soul. Now, it's
also the nucleus of this giant molecule that we're in.
We're part of a molecule. If you look at how
a molecules built, you'll see that there's a power source
which is the nucleus and it has a electrons, neutrons.
You know, you got you got all these difficulttle things
that attached to it. We have on us. We have
a little moon that's attached to us. On the walk.
It all shows up identical to particle physics. Now you're
moving particle physics and to astrophysics. They're the same thing.
We're the makeup from one end of the universe to
the other. Everything is identical. Yep, it's all made up
of the same stuff.
Speaker 2: Earth is becoming a sun. Earth is becoming a sun
in a sense a sense. Well, let me ask you this.
Speaker 8: Can can.
Speaker 3: Some of these so called chips be their own universe?
That's becoming a sign there's colors around him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another another thing to that. If if you
think about it, go all the way down the sub
atomic Okay, go to the sub atomic level. You go
to uh, there's I'm not sure how you'll take this one.
It's called the Boson Higgs. They call it the standard model.
Speaker 2: You know what that is.
Speaker 1: That's that's two particles. Yeah, you fly two particles and
you get up and it's a reaction called that. That's
the Big Bang theory. And what happens is is the
two particles when they hit bare it throws off stuff
this way. It statters off this way, kind of like
a shotgun blast, and you got poo. And now you've
got rotation, which is which is why they call the
bows On haggs, because there's a rotation appen and occurring,
and it's it's like forming little planets and all of
this stuff. It's just a little tiny uh universe or
galaxy solar system, we'll call it small microscopic solar system.
All these things are taking place all at once, instantaneous,
and they're gone just that beast. Now, our entire life,
millions and billions of years of here could be just
that an experiment to us, it seems like millions and
billions of years and it could all just end instantly. Right, However,
we seem to have these things we got, we got hands,
We've got all this wonderful stuff that teaches us how
to become resistant to things like we end up with sickness.
We're more like a resistant bacteria because we're not a fighter. Okay,
we live on the surface of something. We overcome that surface,
we take it over. We're kind of a cancer because
we destroy stuff as we're moving along. That's what we are.
We're like a bacteria that's moving along the face of
this planet. Probably something one of these and got rid
of on their planet because.
Speaker 2: We take stuff. We take stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned chakra at the beginning, and in the
middle of you have a soul lure plexus. You have
a sun, a light within each one of us.
Speaker 1: Top of your head, you've got your north bole, you've
got your south pole, and when you have a north
in the south pole. Just like our planet, just like
our son, everything everything has to flow. We have an
electric flow that flows through our body. We put out
things that we want in the world. We sometimes we
can manifest those things just thinking about it. Sometimes it
takes time to manifest. I'm manifesting. I manifested a documentary.
Guess what I met Don Ledesma.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, what else you want?
Speaker 7: You ask your father?
Speaker 4: Put it out there, put it.
Speaker 2: In your heart.
Speaker 1: This guy, it turns out this guy knows how to
make movies. On top of it, I mean he took
he took a really small budget, and once you've seen
this documentary, you're gonna go how did he do it
on that budget? It took time. It took a lot
of time. It definitely took education. That man knows how
to operate a camera. He knows he knows how to
operate a camera better than me. By lawn shot.
Speaker 2: I ended up.
Speaker 1: I ended up meeting up with somebody that knew how
to do the job. He did the job perfectly. He
believed in me. That was probably the hardest part of
all of it. Honestly, if you walk up to somebody
who knows how to do all this stuff Don knows
how to do and you got my story, he better
he better fuyer because if he don't, he's gonna laugh
at you before he hangs out.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 1: You have to have somebody that knows what they're doing
and knows the subjects, how to take that subject seriously.
Speaker 2: And use it and doesn't laugh at you, doesn't laugh
at me.
Speaker 1: And actually takes a subject and realize that the person
is not kidding. They're telling you exactly what came. And
they saw that this is this is what it is.
And I got to tell you out of all of this.
Since since this documentary and all of this has started,
uh Donald, not only did he believe in me, but
he put this whole thing together and he's he's brought
something really wonderful to uh uh disclosure. People are able
to to see this part that he's done because his
end is very much artful.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's depends on how you tell the story, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, making sure it's getting out.
Speaker 3: Toning, lighting, all of it is beautiful art man. Guys,
we'll do We'll do this again. I know we can
keep going on. I I totally can love this great
meeting you guys. Send me, send me the link.
Speaker 2: I want to join. I want to share.
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't shared much of it, only little pieces,
but I'd love to just roll ideas and uh and
see where we can take this. And I'm gonna be
taking the journey up to Oregon and Washington soon and
maybe we can connect while I'm up there too. I'm
going up there with family, but.
Speaker 4: I'm also being asked to do retreats and ce fives
at Shasta.
Speaker 2: That maybe we'll do this together. Document it sky's the limit?
Speaker 4: Or is it?
Speaker 7: Or is it?
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just me?
Speaker 1: See if I've taken place on Mount Shasta, I might
show up with organ you, Paul, if.
Speaker 4: We do something together, man, we'd we'd make it bigger,
make it better.
Speaker 2: You're right, the sky is a limit. I got that.
Speaker 4: I was also thinking, got many blessings.
Speaker 7: Y'all have a good day, so much, so much, so
much earth.
Speaker 4: Well that doesn't for this episode.
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