Speaker 1: Well, it's time for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2: The story is true, that's true. No, it sounds made up.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Gerry and Shannon present true Crime.
Speaker 3: Okay, you've got a Jeffrey Dahmer nugget. We do have
Speaker 3: this woman's claim about her father being a serial killer
Speaker 3: who has four hundred bodies in his wake. But first,
Speaker 3: can we get to jeopardy because it's true crime related? Oh?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: That's why I've waited so long. The category is according
Speaker 3: to Black's Law Dictionary for six hundred dollars. Law Dictionary
Speaker 3: allowed in cross examination. It's a question that suggests the
Speaker 3: answer to the person being interrogated.
Speaker 2: So leading question, Sure.
Speaker 3: Damn right, it is objection.
Speaker 2: Council's leading is leading the witness. I'll allow it.
Speaker 3: But you're on a bent fin leash shortly.
Speaker 1: Okay, then, oh, here's the quick Jeffrey Dahmer story.
Speaker 2: I saw this today.
Speaker 1: First of all, there are people who are absolutely weird
Speaker 1: when it comes to I don't know if celebrating or
Speaker 1: honoring serial killers the right way to put it. Just
Speaker 1: acknowledging serial killers, and they want to own the stuff
Speaker 1: of the stories. Yeah, they buy up murder rebelia, whether
Speaker 1: it's evidence that was originally used in a case, or
Speaker 1: posters about them, or John Wayne Gacy's paintings, things like that.
Speaker 1: In this case, David Adamovich is a doctor of education,
Speaker 1: owner of the website Serial Killer murder Abilia. He picked
Speaker 1: up a pair of vintage tipmas seven sorry timmas Z
Speaker 1: eighty seven five and a half general style glasses the
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer war and he said that he paid a
Speaker 1: lot amount a lot of money for it, didn't say
Speaker 1: how much, and that he is one hundred percent convinced
Speaker 1: of the provenance of these glasses, that they didn't change
Speaker 1: hands multiple times. And he said, I've been sitting in
Speaker 1: the in this case for over thirty years, and he says,
Speaker 1: this is a series of lucky events. I was able
Speaker 1: to purchase them and he has them now.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: When he was interviewed about these glasses, he says, what's
Speaker 1: interesting about them is that if you look closely under
Speaker 1: the frames, so in the bottom of the glass under
Speaker 1: the frame here, he says, there's a reasonable amount of crud.
Speaker 1: Oh that is all around the glass.
Speaker 2: I'm disgusting again quoting the doctor here.
Speaker 1: My guess is that it isn't chocolate from the chocolate factory,
Speaker 1: the Ambrosia chocolate factory where Jeffrey Dahmer worked. It is
Speaker 1: probably a reasonable guest to say it was blood from
Speaker 1: his victims.
Speaker 3: I had no idea you worked at a chocolate factory
Speaker 3: when you said chocolate. Yeah, well just yeah, sting.
Speaker 2: That's disgusting, it's awful.
Speaker 3: That's why you don't buy Jeffrey Dahmers anything. No, no,
Speaker 3: all right, And imagine needing attention so much that you
Speaker 3: buy Jeffrey Dahmer's glasses and then purport that they have
Speaker 3: human matter on them just to get attention.
Speaker 1: If you're if you're a law enforcement official, if you're
Speaker 1: a detective, if you're like a criminologist, if you're a
Speaker 1: profile or something like that, and you study serial killers
Speaker 1: and murderers, you do it because you want to try
Speaker 1: to prevent it in the future, right, or at least
Speaker 1: try to understand why people are doing it.
Speaker 2: Sure, what is that guy doing?
Speaker 1: You're you're just getting weird stuff, and you're just gonna
Speaker 1: be weird the whole time.
Speaker 3: All right. So there was a woman about a month
Speaker 3: ago up in Mendocino who shocked the Internet. She claimed
Speaker 3: here's the quote, I am the daughter of a serial killer.
Speaker 3: She posted black and white photograph of a square jawed
Speaker 3: man sporting black rimmed glasses, a sports coat and a tie.
Speaker 3: And they say that this evoked memories of you know,
Speaker 3: dB Cooper or the Zodiac, kind of that type of sketch.
Speaker 3: She has in her in her own estimation, a trove
Speaker 3: of evidence implicating her father to the murders of four
Speaker 3: hundred people, from taped confessions, supposed burial sites to sadistic
Speaker 3: personal journal entries. She claims, despite all this evidence, the
Speaker 3: cops are ignoring the case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I want to read through this post
Speaker 1: that she put up the middle of March, so the
Speaker 1: middle of last month on Facebook. Galina Trefel is her
Speaker 1: name for so many years. This is again her words
Speaker 1: for so many years now. I've lived a double life,
Speaker 1: carried an impossible secret. This is not a joke. This
Speaker 1: is the cold reality which has been strictly on a
Speaker 1: need to know basis. Now everyone needs to know. I
Speaker 1: am the daughter of a serial killer who knew the
Speaker 1: identities of two other uncaught serial sex killers, Michael Frees
Speaker 1: and Julius Strandhauser. Doctor John Charles trefil. My father has
Speaker 1: admitted for almost a decade, giving a consistent story to
Speaker 1: being a serial killer on tape graphically, Police Department, Sheriff's Department,
Speaker 1: Mendosino County DA's office. They are all aware of his
Speaker 1: concession confessions. This is the secret that the authorities in
Speaker 1: Mendocino County are not sharing with the public. She goes
Speaker 1: on a whole list of things and times that he
Speaker 1: described two law enforcement officers and detectives or in those
Speaker 1: diaries that you refer to from killings that started in
Speaker 1: the fifties and may have gone all the way until
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: It should be noted that this woman is a published
Speaker 3: horror writer. Yes, the post that you read was on Facebook.
Speaker 3: It was posted on March thirteenth, so just over a
Speaker 3: month ago. Since then, it's been shared over sixteen thousand times.
Speaker 3: It's prompted more than five thousand comments. Oh, and the
Speaker 3: Mendocino County Sheriff's Office has weighed in as well. They
Speaker 3: say they've conducted an extensive investigation of this woman's claims.
Speaker 3: Hours of interviews with her father, cross referencing as DNA
Speaker 3: with the cold case database that have led detectives to
Speaker 3: one conclusion, there's no evidence John Treyfel has killed anyone,
Speaker 3: let alone hundreds of people.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't stop her from going through with copious
Speaker 1: amounts of evidence. And we'll talk about some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that she has posted again about her own father,
Speaker 1: who's still alive. He's eighty six years old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's the thing in her narrative of this,
Speaker 3: there was no discrimination ace race, gender, and he had
Speaker 3: a go to murder weapon. Strycht nine, we are in
Speaker 3: the midst of True Crime Tuesday, and we're talking about
Speaker 3: a woman who went on Facebook last month and made
Speaker 3: a shocking claim that her father was a serial killer
Speaker 3: and that he was guilty of killing about four hundred people.
Speaker 3: She claimed that she had evidence, taped confessions, burial sites,
Speaker 3: personal journal entries, overwhelming evidence in her estimation. And the
Speaker 3: cops say, listen, we've interviewed the father, we've gone through
Speaker 3: as DNA, we've checked it against the database. There's no
Speaker 3: evidence of any of this.
Speaker 1: So dad, John Trefle, doctor John Treffle was a psychiatrist,
Speaker 1: and the daughter claims that he was once working at
Speaker 1: a San Francisco hospital and at the jail in Lake
Speaker 1: County up in northern California, the latter of which is
Speaker 1: corroborated by some of the newspaper reports at the time
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty three that refer to a psychiatrist named
Speaker 1: John Treffle that worked at that facility. What they know
Speaker 1: is that he did run a private practice in Mendocino
Speaker 1: County and Lake County until nineteen ninety nine, and according
Speaker 1: to state records, he surrendered his medical license in ninety
Speaker 1: nine after some allegations were levered against him, leveled against
Speaker 1: him by the executive director of the medical board that
Speaker 1: he had made romantic advances toward one of his patients,
Speaker 1: forty one year old patient.
Speaker 3: She claims that his hunting grounds when active, stretched across
Speaker 3: the country from Illinois and Virginia to California, Oregon, Idaho,
Speaker 3: that he took his crimes international Canada, France, Netherlands, that
Speaker 3: he had maintained murder cabins Mendocino County, one of them
Speaker 3: dubbed the Tomb, where sixteen women and two men were
Speaker 3: allegedly buried. She says she her father confessed to her
Speaker 3: to being a killer around twenty fifteen, the same time
Speaker 3: he reportedly began showing signs of Parkinson's. He's married, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, and when you ask the wife, when you
Speaker 1: ask Candy Trefle, they've been married for forty plus years.
Speaker 1: If her husband is a serial killer, she says absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Now Again, the craziness is that the daughter has this
Speaker 1: incredible story about her father. She denies that her dad
Speaker 1: ever had Parkinson's and says that he is healthy, that
Speaker 1: he is lucid. Again, he's alive. He's eighty six years old.
Speaker 1: And she said the neurologist actually put it in writing
Speaker 1: that no, he does not have Parkinson's all the way
Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen, but when asked to provide such documentation,
Speaker 1: she didn't.
Speaker 3: She and a victim's advocate have twice a week for
Speaker 3: nearly a year, gone to his skilled nursing facility and
Speaker 3: taped him talking about all of this. I guess we
Speaker 3: don't know if he knew he was being recorded. I
Speaker 3: think that's neither here nor there. Who cares. But she
Speaker 3: said that she contrasted her efforts to document her father's
Speaker 3: alleged crimes with those of local law enforcement, who, she said,
Speaker 3: refused to talk to him for a decade while he
Speaker 3: described torturing and sexually assaulting young women. They refuse to
Speaker 3: do their job. The sheriff up there disagrees. He says
Speaker 3: that a couple of years ago, investigators got their hands
Speaker 3: on recordings of the nursing home conversations, the journals and
Speaker 3: all of that. And he explained that that victim advocate
Speaker 3: posed as a documentary filmmaker, digging into this guy's crimes
Speaker 3: a ruse, but that after nearly ten hours of footage,
Speaker 3: nothing solid emerged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of it was because he doctor John was
Speaker 1: mumbling through these responses. I mean, he's eighty six years old.
Speaker 1: If he has Parkinson's or has had Parkinson's for ten years,
Speaker 1: I mean, he probably is not very communicative. And the
Speaker 1: sheriff said, isn't it strange that Galina, the daughter, is
Speaker 1: the only person who speaks Dad, that his detectives did
Speaker 1: interrogate doctor John Trevel through a proxy rather than their
Speaker 1: own detectives, adding the interrogation didn't have anything conclusive, no
Speaker 1: evidence of any wrongdoing.
Speaker 3: They went to all of those sites, those murder cabins
Speaker 3: and the things we talked about. He said, none of
Speaker 3: those things produced any leads. They didn't find any victims
Speaker 3: buried there. She also claims her father was behind a
Speaker 3: specific cold case from nineteen seventy four, one that the
Speaker 3: sheriff confirmed had DNA evidence associated with it.
Speaker 1: Investigators did get a warrant to test the dad's DNA
Speaker 1: to test the daughter's story, but there wasn't a match.
Speaker 1: The DNA went into COTIS, the Combined DNA Index System,
Speaker 1: which is the national crime database. And despite the fact
Speaker 1: that the daughter says that her dad is the most
Speaker 1: prolific serial killer in American history North American history, with
Speaker 1: bodies all over the place, not one hit on any
Speaker 1: unsolved case in codis now you mentioned that the murder weapon,
Speaker 1: the specific weapon that she believes that her dad used,
Speaker 1: was poison. That that was the thing that he was
Speaker 1: able to use over and over again. In one post,
Speaker 1: she shared a photo of a weathered antique little bottle
Speaker 1: that just literally has the word poison on it. I
Speaker 1: guess it says strychnine. Also, she says that her dad
Speaker 1: kept that STRYC nine in his medicine bag. But you
Speaker 1: and I could buy a bottle or empty I hope.
Speaker 1: But you and I could buy a bottle of strychnine
Speaker 1: labeled poison like that off of eBay.
Speaker 2: Sure, so none of that is a guarantee.
Speaker 3: Many of her allegations they're tied to specific landmarks. Up
Speaker 3: in northern California. She insists her father buried victims along
Speaker 3: the winding thirteen Curves stretch of Highway twenty in Medicino County.
Speaker 3: Very hyper specific if you know the area. They say
Speaker 3: it adds of an ear of credibility for the amateur
Speaker 3: detectives who have been following her posts. And my goodness,
Speaker 3: haven't they in troves?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is I mean, this narrative that she has about
Speaker 1: her dad being a serial killer takes place in a
Speaker 1: very rural area up where that top left quarter of California.
Speaker 1: The coast there is beautiful, but it's also home to
Speaker 1: all kinds of missing persons and unsolved murders. And they
Speaker 1: talk about I think It's Death Mountain was a documentary
Speaker 1: that came out several years ago about the unregulated cannabis
Speaker 1: economy that is trying to be regulated and how dangerous
Speaker 1: that thing has been for the last quarter three quarters
Speaker 1: of a century, leaving behind buried bodies, and her story
Speaker 1: fits very well with the dark past of that area
Speaker 1: and She claims that her dad confessed to the Santa
Speaker 1: Rosa hitchhiker murders and even at one point admitted that
Speaker 1: he was the Zodiac killer. But remember this, like you said,
Speaker 1: she is a horror author, and she told San Francisco
Speaker 1: Chronicle that's true. I know that people won't want to
Speaker 1: hear that, but and this is the key for me.
Speaker 1: I had a horribly abusive childhood and that's how I vent.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nos, I was going to say, what was the
Speaker 3: relationship like between this woman and her parents, her mother,
Speaker 3: by the way, who I wanted to hear more from,
Speaker 3: because Mom's only quote in this story up until now
Speaker 3: was he's not a serious absolutely not when asked was
Speaker 3: your husband or is your husband a serial killer? Mom
Speaker 3: went on to say that the daughter's creating the story
Speaker 3: of about her father because she likes attention more than most.
Speaker 2: That's very sad, too bad.
Speaker 3: Call your parents all your kids, give them a hug,
Speaker 3: tell them you love them.
Speaker 2: Do all the things.
Speaker 1: Maybe talk about sex, depending on what how old they
Speaker 1: are and if they know anything about it.
Speaker 2: So right, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not getting into that.
Speaker 2: I just saw who you were talking about earlier. By
Speaker 2: the way, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3: What do you think. I didn't say anything. You didn't know,
Speaker 3: but I didn't have to say anything, did I.
Speaker 2: Yeah,