Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the show.
I can't tell you exactly which one it is because
this is actually dropping on multiple podcasts at once. Don't worry,
you are listening to the right show, whichever one you're
trying to get. I am not your regular host, but
I have a feeling your host is probably standing very
close by.
Speaker 2: My name is David Wright.
Speaker 1: I'm also known as Deaf Dave, and there's a chance
that you've at least heard of me if you're a
regular follower of this show. We have a very special
episode today. I've been asked to moderate a fantasy draft
for Bond Girls, and so I have with me hosts
from a film by podcast, the Surely you Can't Be
Serious podcasts, the on Her Majesty's Secret podcast. I think
I got that right, as well as the thirty something podcast.
So I feel a little bit like more successful than
blowfeiul to taking over the world. I'm a guy with
no podcasts of my own, yet I have simultaneously hijacked
four of them all at once, and I'm feeling pretty powerful.
Speaker 2: So anyway, this.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be a fantasy draft of Bond Girls, and
we'll have five rounds of these picks and then we'll
leave it up to the audience to decide the winner.
Speaker 2: So let's get straight to introductions. First up, we.
Speaker 1: Have the host of a Film by Podcast, Jeff Johnson. Jeff,
tell us about you, about your show and your Bond credentials.
Speaker 3: Hello, Dave, thank you for joining us and doing this
for us. My name is Jeff Johnson. I'm one of
the co hosts for a Film by Podcast. Basically, what
we do is we take our favorite directors. We take
Hollywoods biggest directors, and we like to focus in on
their underrated hits, you know, not necessarily things that you
might have heard or might not have done well but
the box office, but things that we feel you should
definitely check out. And then we also have a couple
of limited series. You know, we've done the nineteen eighty
six series, which you know, Jason has been a part of,
which you've been a part of. We're currently working on
a one called a Film at forty five or a
couple episodes deep into that. We're celebrating the forty fifth
anniversary of movies that were in nineteen seventy eight, so
doing some fun stuff with that. As far as Bond
goes in my connection, I still remember the day that
my dad told me not to go outside to play
because he wanted me to watch a movie. I sit
down in front of the TV and I'm immediately just
unhappy because I see this is some old movie.
Speaker 2: What do I care?
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I see this girl
completely covered in gold and I was like, wait, what
is this? And then the you know, I was hooked.
Goldfinger was my first experience. My dad introduced me to
James Bond later that year. We went to the movie
theater to see A View to a Kill in nineteen
eighty five. Again, I was a little confused when I
saw Roger Moore's face. I leaned, Dad, that's not James Bond. No,
it is James Bond. Just you know, it's a new
but happy to say my dad has taken me to
see every James Bond film since of You to Will Kill.
And the fun thing for me is at this point
now as an adult, I'm taking him to go see him.
So we haven't missed one, and I don't I don't
plan for that to happen anytime soon.
Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: So Jason Colvin, tell us a little bit about your
show and your bondage experiment, I mean bond experience.
Speaker 4: Well, my name's Jason Colvin and I co host the
Shirley Can Be Serious Podcast with my good buddy James D. Graves,
and we are a podcast for the MTV generation. What
we do is we take two movies or albums or
TV shows or you know, books, whatever, and we match
them up against them themselves. And so we've done some
pretty fun ones. Jeff with you, We've done Jos The
Revenge versus Superman four and that was kind of a
fun one. Dave with you, we did License to Ill
by the Beastie Boys versus Raisin Hell Run DMC. What
we've got coming down the Pipe, We've got Raisin Area
Zona versus The Big Lebowski. We're working on Summer of
nineteen eighty eight, so we're doing Twins versus Big We've
got Long Cold Winter by Cinderella versus OU eight one
two Van Halen, and we like to match those up
and we go deep. We try to ferret out the
stuff that other people don't find, and so some more
trivial type of things. For me, my first bond experience
happened in the summer of nineteen eighty one, and I
contend that two weeks of June and nineteen eighty one
were the best two weeks in eighties movie history. So
you know, you've got Stripes, You've got Great Uppet Caper,
You've got for Year Eyes Only, You've got Raiders of
Lost Dark, You've got Dragon Slayer, You've got all these
great movies released all in the same two week period.
Speaker 2: Clash of the Titans, I think.
Speaker 4: Clash of the Titans and yeah, actually, I've got a
tidbit on Clash of the Titans here in a minute,
because we'll be talking about probably Ursula Andris at some point.
Once I had seen Raiders of Lost Dark with my
best friend at the time. He's like, man, we've got
to go see for Your Eyes Only. It's the new
James Bond movie. And I had never heard of James Bond.
I'm like, what are you talking about. He's like, well,
if you like Raiders of the Lost Dark, you'll definitely
like for Your Eyes Only. And so we went to
the movie theater and I was like, this is the
greatest summer I've ever had because I just saw Raiders
and now I'm watching James Bond and it was just awesome,
and so that was my first experience awesome.
Speaker 1: Van, tell us about you, and at least tell us
about your James Bond podcasts and your Bond, your relationship
to Bond and the franchise.
Speaker 2: I am Van Allen Plexico.
Speaker 5: I run the White Rocket Entertainment Network, which has a
number of different podcasts channels, but the one relevant here
is on Her Majesty's Secret Podcast. When I came up
with that name several years ago, I said, well, now
I've got to have a show, because that's too good
of a name not to actually use.
Speaker 2: And so Alan J.
Speaker 5: Porter, the author of many books on James Bond. He
and I do a occasional review. We're working our second
way through the movies now. The first time we just
kind of did long reviews of them, discussing every aspect,
every scene, every moment. This time we're doing kind of
like categories, rating the girls, the gadgets, the villains and
all that as we go through.
Speaker 2: So that's what we've been doing lately.
Speaker 5: But there are other folks on that show, including Raymond Benson,
the author. He comes on occasionally we talk about Bond music,
the scores and everything.
Speaker 2: So we have a lot of fun on that series.
It's that secret.
Speaker 5: Podcast dot Podbean dot com. As far as me, I
think my first exposure to Bond was in the early
seventies on like the ABC Sunday Night Movie when they
would show either, they kept switching back. Say I never
had the Who's Bond thing, because they would one week
they would show Diamonds or Forever, and the next week
they would show Live and Let Die, and they'd switch
back and forth. So I was getting Sean Connery and
Roger Moore kind of in equal doses, and so I
thought of them both as Bond, and then I saw
I have a love hate relationship though in the mid
seventies because we were in Florida on a vacation and
there was Star Wars was out and I was dying
to see Star Wars and we went and saw The
Spy Who Loved Me. So I've always hated The Spy
Who Loved Me. Even though I'd acknowledge it's a good
Bond film, I hate it because it kept me from
seeing Star Wars for like four months.
Speaker 2: And as far as.
Speaker 5: Bond goes, I really do like the idea of a
secret agent.
Speaker 2: That s exactly. He's kind of his own guy.
Speaker 5: He's a really interesting character and charismatic and exciting, and
he's held up for all these going on sixty years now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's not more. Yeah, so very good.
Speaker 1: And the last participant in our draft today is Pat
Cantagallo from the thirty something podcast.
Speaker 2: Pat, tell us.
Speaker 1: About your show, what you got going on and any
relationship to Bond.
Speaker 6: Okay, so thirty something movie podcast, it's actually the show.
The guy that ran the show starts the show is
my friend John Ree, and he got a bunch of
us together. We're all teachers. We would all sit when
we'd have break time or blunch or whatever, we'd sit
down and just talk about movies, all right, our friends Jeff,
Dennis Bow, myself, and then we would just sit and
talk movies. There were sometimes we'd we'd be sitting there
and have entire conversations just using movie quotes. And sometimes
that would just completely weird the other teachers, Like sometimes
students wouldn't know where the really you know, the smart
students would always, you know, pick up on what we
were saying. And so finally John's like, you know what
I've always wanted to do a podcast. Let's put this
all together and let's just talk about movies as a podcast.
And so the way our show works is that we
review movies that are coming up on their thirtieth anniversary.
So right now, each year we do one movie a
week from thirty years ago. So right now we're working
through nineteen ninety three, and we just got done with
the film. It's Quentin Tarantino wrote the script. Christian Slater
start in it. It's called True Romance, And like it's
been great because you know, I had never seen that
movie before, and so like I was blown away with
this and it's awesome going back, how did I miss
this movie? And then all of a sudden, like the
next week we could be doing, for example, Jurassic Park. Okay,
I've seen this movie. Is that really already thirty years old?
Like where did that come from? And getting together and realizing, wow,
I've had all these feelings about this movie that's thirty
years old. So does everybody else, you know. So it's
been a pretty cool, pretty cool experience doing the podcast.
As far as when Bond started, I started watching Bond
with my grandparents and my dad, those Sunday Night movies
that you talk about. My grandmother was a huge James
Bond fan, a huge Sean Connery fan. So yeah, I
would grow up and, like you were saying, kind of
got the Sean Connery and Roger Moore in equal doses.
And that's kind of where it all where it all started,
you know, I was raised. My grandma made sure that
I understood that, you know, Sean Connery was the best Bond,
but there were some other Bonds. And then it just
kind of followed through the rest of my life every level,
you know, all the way up through college, and there
was always a group of people that were Bond fans.
So I got to kind of like grow up.
Speaker 2: With the series. Well, very good, if I could.
Speaker 1: I'll just share a little bit of my relationship with
the Bond franchise because it sounds very similar to Jeff's.
Speaker 2: My dad graduated high school.
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three, which I think is the year
that Doctor Note was released in the United States, and
so he was kind of the Bond generation through all
that super Spike crazy in the sixties, and that was
something that he and I shared. You know, he took
me to my first Bond movie View to a Kill.
When I was a freshman in high school, I must
have been, and so that one was my first experience
with James Bond, and I had a good time with
my dad. So I don't hate that movie as much
as most people seem to. But that became a tradition.
There's something my dad and I bonded over. We saw
every James Bond movie that came out. That continued into
my adulthood, and after I'd moved away there was a
new Bond movie, I'd make the trip down to my hometown.
We'd go see it together, and so that's always been
kind of special to me. He passed away after a
Casino Royal. That was the last one that I saw
with him, and I have not I haven't really been
particularly in the mood to see a new release since then.
Speaker 2: I haven't. I don't know if I will, to be.
Speaker 1: Honest, but I remain a casual Bond fan and I
will still watch all the old ones occasionally. I'll go
on a binge every once in a while. So I'm
not a huge Bond fan. So when this topic came up,
I didn't feel like I knew enough to be able
to have an conduct my own intelligent enough of a draft.
So but I'm I'm a casual fan. I'm not a
hater of it for sure. So I'm excited to be
able to help you all out with this today. And
I think we're getting ready to get started. We'll start drafting.
We're gonna just go through Fantasy football style snake draft.
We're gonna donna go snake style, but in each round
we'll start with with a different person, so I'll just
keep that straight.
Speaker 2: We don't have to worry about it too much.
Speaker 1: So before we get started on drafting our Bond girls,
I asked everyone to submit to me their own idea
for a Bond girl name, their own original Bond Girl name,
and that I would use the quality of their puns
to determine the draft order. And these guys do not
know what I've decided. They don't even know what everybody
else has even come up with.
Speaker 2: So here we go. I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1: So they're all great, They're all solid, right, They're all
absolutely usable. I could see them in a Bond movie.
But I have to rank them, so I'm gonna go
at number four.
Speaker 2: Is gonna be Van with New Mind was a word.
So so what I try.
Speaker 1: I judge these based on, like how much does this
fit the convention of what the Bond movies do? Okay,
So Van's entry was Gloria Climax, So it's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Not not you know, not unfathomable that it might be used.
Speaker 2: Okay, but uh, but well it.
Speaker 5: Was the only one I could think of that didn't
it wasn't already a porn star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all kind of used up, right. So the
third one is gonna be Pat. Pat had a great
sounding Bond name. It Fanny good Bottom. So I uh,
At first, I was going to deduct points for the
use of Fanny, thinking it was a little bit of
an old, old fashioned name. Then I remember that James
Bond goes back the movies go back to nineteen sixty two,
so I think you, uh, I think you get away
with Fanny good Bottom.
Speaker 2: So get off, I get off.
Speaker 1: Find So it's a quality name, but we got some
we got some tough entries ahead of you. So number
two is actually my favorite one. So number two is
gonna be Jeff Johnson. So Jeff came up with a
fantastic name. It is Nakata spits.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The reason why that is so good is, well, those
of us that speak Croatian already know how good of
a name that is. But if you need Nakata translated
into English, it is never.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, there we go.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So top shelf punk quality.
Speaker 1: But also I don't think the Bond movies make you
work that hard for the punchline. So I put him
in second place, and Jason Colvin I think absolutely nails
the spirit of.
Speaker 2: The movies with Ophelia Mellon's.
Speaker 3: Nicely Doe.
Speaker 1: So to start off, the draft order will be Jason, Jeff,
Pat and Van and we'll go from there.
Speaker 4: My goal today was not to get in trouble with
my wife or anybody at my church. I think I'm
over to already. So yeah, all right, very good.
Speaker 1: Well, guys, I think we're ready to get started on
drafting our Bond girls.
Speaker 2: So Jason Colvin, you are on the clock.
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, Well, this is the first pick out of
the gate. Thank you very much, Dave. I know who
I'm gonna take, and I'll tell you right off the bat.
This is the girl who impacted me the most emotionally
when I watched this movie. Okay, so she actually dies
in the movie, This, of course is Vesper, Linda. I'm
going Vesper right out of the gate from Casino Royale.
She was playing Bond, but she actually fell in love
with him and then her your death scene was just
incredibly moving, and I love Cassino Royal. So I'm taking
Vesper right out of the gate.
Speaker 5: That would have probably been my first pick. Jason, Hey,
can I just say the thing I was thinking about
strategy wise? Here is something I learned from fantasy football.
You don't necessarily take the one you want the most
or you like the most. You take the one that's
going to be the hardest to get later.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 5: And if you hadn't taken her, I would have eventually.
So yeah, that was a very good move.
Speaker 4: I think, thank you, thank you, all right.
Speaker 2: Very good. No other thoughts on that. We'll move on ahead.
Speaker 3: Jeff, you're up, Well, I'll tell you like Van, Vesper
definitely would have been my choice. So I've got my
ranking system that I came up with, So I'm gonna
go to my number two overall pick, which happens to.
Speaker 4: Be the very first Bond girl for me.
Speaker 3: Talking about honor, Blackman in nineteen sixty four is Goldfinger
playing pussy Galore.
Speaker 4: I must be dreaming. That's a good one. I mean,
most people know her name, she's got that great Bond name. Yeah,
you know, she was thirty nine at the time of
filming Goldfinger.
Speaker 5: She was the only Bond girl older than the Bond
actor until Monica Bulucci inspector.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought Monica had the record, but
I didn't know. I didn't know Honor was that close.
Speaker 2: So older than Sean Connery, yeah, wow.
Speaker 6: And she was a I mean, she was such a
great character, like an actual strong part of that movie.
And I mean, like, you know, she's a pilot too,
which like immediately makes higher street credit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, very cool character.
Speaker 5: She's a lesbian and Sean Connery's bond is able to
bring her over to the side, so that right there.
Speaker 2: She couldn't do that today, but sixty three or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love the fact that she know she she's fem fatale,
you know, classic femme fatale, because you know, she she
goes toe to toe with him. You know, she's not
the damsel in distress that you typically see a Bond
girl be, so like like Pat was saying, she's definitely
got strength.
Speaker 4: I love that her, all.
Speaker 2: Right, so we'll keep going. So Pat, you're up next,
You're on the clock.
Speaker 6: Then you kind of foreshadowed where I was going with this.
I've got to pick one of my favorite actresses of
all time that when I found out she was going
to be a Bond girl, Miss Monica Balucci, I was
like absolutely floored, and I so I'm going to go
out of the gate. I'm going to Luccia Sciara. And
I gotta be honest. They always say, like, behave be
careful with the fantasy draft. Don't just you know, pick
from your favorite team or pick for your favorite you know,
and all that. But I'm just going to break that
rule because I love everything that I've seen Monica Balucci
act in. And it's an understatement to say she's an
incredibly attractive human being. But what I think is amazing
is kind of what we were talking about with the
actress that was in the first Bond film. She was
older than Daniel Craig at the time. You know, you
start reading about this that so many you know that
you cast like a fifty five year old dude with
like a twenty year old gal and it's like, okay, well,
you know, where is this all coming from, you know,
And but she gets on screen and I mean, she
is incredibly attractive on screen. The hard part is that
she has only a small part of the movie. But
my gosh, what's done with that time? The scene where
she's walking in in the movie Specter, the after the
funeral scene, and she's just walking in and you see
on her face like just resignation that she knows that
she's going to be, you know, assassinated next, and it's
just the camera follows her and you're immediately captivated by
the way she walks and just the most subtle facial expressions.
And then when the assassins appear and you can see
resolution she knows what's coming next. Then surprise that when
Bond says her, and then the anger it all flashes,
and all it is it's just a couple of looks,
you know, just a couple of like, you know, twitches
here and there, little eyebrow raised here. I mean, what
she can communicate is pretty amazing. So that's going to
be my first pick out of the gate.
Speaker 4: That's good. I've listened to thirty something enough to know
that that was probably gonna be high on your list.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have failed myself if I didn't go there.
Speaker 3: So well, let's be let's be honest. I don't care
what kind of list we're putting together. If Monica Blalucci
is not at the top of it, that's right.
Speaker 2: That something's wrong.
Speaker 3: You know, something's wrong with the list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, then if it's my turn, let me address that. Actually,
because here's what I did. I made a list the
other day off the top of my head, right in
the order I just off the top of my head thought.
And then you guys sent out the list of the
five traits to kind of grade them by, and I'm like, oh,
which was beauty, talent, chemistry, importance, I guess to the movie,
and X factor. I reordered my entire list using a
scale of one to ten for each of those things,
and the order completely changed.
Speaker 2: Because there were Bond girls.
Speaker 5: That I did not rate highly just on terms of
how I feel about them, But when I categorized them
by how they ranked in those things, I was like, WHOA.
There were some that came way up and there were
a few that went down. I will say this the
two highest on my draft board are still there. I
got to pick which one of those I want to grab.
Speaker 2: And you've each take.
Speaker 5: I have four pages of Bond Girls, and you've taken
one from page one, page two in page three.
Speaker 2: So far, so interesting.
Speaker 5: All right, So I gotta like, I say, my rule
of fantasy drafting is take the one that's take the
highest value when it's available, and so I am taking Solitaire.
Speaker 2: Jane Seymour.
Speaker 4: Oom, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: I'm glad she was there. I think she's my favorite
Jane Seymour.
Speaker 1: She got cast into a Bond film at just the
right time of her career.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Solitaire.
Speaker 5: Isn't it funny that she's in a Bond movie? In
seventy three and five years later, Battlestar Galactica says, introducing
Jane Seymour, Yeah, what's the Bond girl?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Introducing to Space.
Speaker 4: Elons Van.
Speaker 3: I'm look, I'll tell you right now, that's my Solitaire
was my number three.
Speaker 2: Overall.
Speaker 3: I'm not even sad about you taking her because I knew.
I knew Jason's a big fan of her wardrobe in
that show, in that movie, so I knew if you
weren't taking her, he probably was. So yeah, great pick Van.
Speaker 4: Did you know that she she did Playboy at age
sixty seven, and that's.
Speaker 2: Well she could. I'm sure she can. He's incredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the part of solitaire, they actually were interested
in Goldie Han and Helen Mirren for that role. I
did not know that about that.
Speaker 2: Wow. Nice. I think Helene seventy three, Helen Mirren.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have worked. Goldie Han, That's a that's
an interesting choice. Yeah, you know she's.
Speaker 2: More of the wacky helper to Bond, I would think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's more good Night than Solitaire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's definitely a good Night on solitaire.
Speaker 2: She's more Denise Richards category. What elic don't be me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, gentleman, fellow double o's.
Speaker 2: I mean, no one's drafting Tonise Richards.
Speaker 4: You see on my number two.
Speaker 2: Overall she's on the board. But we don't get to Christmas.
But very good. All right, So we are going in
a snake format, which means Van, you get to pick again.
Speaker 5: Now here's the here's the question. Do I think number
one I have now taken? I'm not taking number two
off the board. I went ahead and took number two
instead of number one off of my draft board because
I thought that was the right pick. Now the question is,
if it's number one on my draft board, do I
think that they're going to pop up again before I
get to pick again? Maybe my number one, you see
the strategy. Maybe my number one is just me? Or
do I really want her so bad I gotta go
ahead and spend that second pick. But honestly, oh my gosh, yeah,
I think she's gonna still be there. I think she's
going to still be there. So I'm going to go
down the board a little bit and get another high
powered banger. This is a top five bond girl. I'm
taking Molina have a lot caro old bouquet from for Your.
Speaker 2: Eyes Only Boom.
Speaker 5: I feel very good about that pick. Molina have a lot,
I like have a lot. Okay, yep, the Greek crossbow wielder.
Speaker 4: That's right, the steely blue eyes. Have a soft spot
for her just because she was my first bond girl.
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, She's something. And then later Neil
number five spokesgirl. Right, that's right, you an't go wrong there.
Speaker 5: Let's see if my number one overall is going to
be there in five fix. I'm gonna be like pitting bullets.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: She auditioned for the role of doctor Goodhead.
Speaker 1: That's right, mind record, which came before Eyes Only, right,
she came back, tried to get enough.
Speaker 4: To bring her back. So how about that.
Speaker 5: She would have been an odd choice for doctor Goodhead.
That's I think they went the right. She's more exotic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good art. So we're back to pat.
Speaker 6: So I've been sitting here like making notes and scratching
out and trying to do that, you know, and all
this kind of thing, and uh, you know, and then
you brought up like the ranking system and this, and so,
you know, then I threw it all out the window,
you know all that. So all right, so enough enough
of this kind of thretting around over here. I'm going
to go. I'm going to go with Michelle Yo.
Speaker 2: That was my number one on my board right there.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I misspoked. I'm going with may Day. No, okay,
So so I'm dude, I'm sorry. So now I feel bad.
Speaker 5: And this is oh no, that was my choice.
Speaker 2: I'm She'll be there six picks from now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: I'm just well, I mean you probably could fill in
the gaps too. I mean, awesome action star, awesome fighting skills,
viable part of the movie, excellent counterpoint to Bond as
well as Pierce Brosnan. I love motorcycles. And check that
scene out. That's pretty awesome scene, right, It's just great.
You know the movies that I was seeing in the
in the in the nineties. You know, I'm sure she
had like a huge body of work beyond that, but
I mean, like Prouching Tiger, hidn't Dragon, and just you know,
so we'd seen that seeing her in Bond, that that
was awesome, and so like jumping in like as an actress,
but then also as a character, like if I was
going to go on a secret mission, like I would
want her back in the up and so I yeah,
I'm sorry, man, Van, why don't you jump in with
your thought I'm feeling bad now, I'm feeling bad.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I was my role in the dies.
Speaker 5: I just thought that, like the I just thought like
the hot blondes and stuff would go first. And she
is kind of a tough action girl might hang around
a little longer, but she's always been my number one
Bond girl. She's one of the two Bond characters other
than Bond and Felix. She's one of the other two characters.
I want a solo series out of. I want a
Waylan series and a Tiger Tanaka series. Those two would
kick Butt and solo series. And they almost did it.
They talked about doing the Michelle Yo Spy series. They
ended up not doing it because Eon always makes the
wrong choice and things like that. Yeah, he's fantastic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've read that, and it's kind of like, how
does that stuff not get made when I've got to
deal with all the other.
Speaker 2: How do you not do it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Hey, Van, I'll tell you if you've seen If you
guys have seen everything everywhere all at once, she could
absolutely still be way Lan and do an action series.
As far as I'm going, she was amazing in that
She's amazing overall. Good pick Pat.
Speaker 2: I was familiar.
Speaker 1: I happened to be familiar with her through Jackie Chan movies,
and so it's my impression at the time, and you
tell me if I'm right or wrong, was that she
really was like the first one to me that was more,
was a lot more than just eye candy.
Speaker 2: And was like legitimately like.
Speaker 1: Had the most agency of no pun intended of any
Bond girl and was really a significant character in her
own right and her own strength and all that kind
of stuff that does that really kind of was she
the new standard once that happened, once that movie came out.
Speaker 2: Two Degree. Yeah.
Speaker 5: My favorite story about her is she flew over from
Hong Kong and she gets there and they're like, oh,
you speak English. She says, yeah, I learned on the plane.
Speaker 2: All right. So we're back to Jeff.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you something we're doing. We're doing this
football style draft. And one thing I love about what
Jason and d do on Surely you Can't Be Serious podcast.
Speaker 2: Is the deep dive.
Speaker 3: They're always giving us the fun facts and the stuff
you never thought of.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I love it, and I'm expecting Jason. I'm expecting a
lot of that from Jason today. But man, I'm also
getting a little nervous because I'm afraid like when he
says certain things, it's almost like I got a draft
a running back, and then the guy nextly starts talking
about the running backs that are still available, and your
your three picks away. So Jason Jason dropped this name,
but uh, my number two pick is gonna be nineteen
seventy nine's Holly Goodhead played by the lovely Lois Childs
in Moonraker.
Speaker 2: O Woman, Yes, one of the worst woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah woman, Yeah, and she's very observant of you from.
Speaker 5: That point the rest of the movie. She's just pissed
off at him.
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, They've got great chemistry in that in that one.
Because because of that, you know, they they really ratchet
up the battle of sexes in Moonraker and let's let's
be honest again, not a damsel distress. She's the one
flying the shuttle at the end of the you know,
she's saving the day. So I'm quickly realizing that I've
now drafted two of the most notoriously named Bond girls.
Speaker 2: In the franchise.
Speaker 3: That was not part of my my agenda.
Speaker 2: I assure you.
Speaker 1: I have a question which movie had the more believable
outer outer space.
Speaker 2: Scenes, moon Breaker or Superman four.
Speaker 6: I think you just gave Man just gave all the
podcasts like an idea.
Speaker 4: For I'm going with the attempted re entry by Bond and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take I'll take good heead over the the
Quest for Piece any day?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So uh, to end the first round, we're back to
We're back to Jason Cove and Jason what you got?
Speaker 4: Okay, my number two overall pick is still available, So
I'm super excited. So I'm a guy. This is gonna
get me in trouble too. I like the girls that like,
she's either gonna kill me or I'm gonna have the
greatest sex of my life. Right So so so I'm
taking Xania on the top Janssen from GoldenEye, who had
the killer thighs and wanted to kill Bond, but man,
she was smoking in that meat. So taking Do you
know that they wanted Courtney Cox for that role? How
about that?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I could I could see.
Speaker 3: I could see that with some of the stuff, you know,
we we we quickly always look at her as as
Monica from Friends, but some of her roles, I could
I could see that she could have done that.
Speaker 2: You know, I would have put her in a Terry
Hetcher category. But yes, yes, yeah, but I think Finkey has.
Speaker 1: That exotic flavor that's gonna make her a better Bond
girl than than Courtney Cox.
Speaker 2: I think but you know, I love GoldenEye.
Speaker 1: That was that was when it came out, it was
immediately my favorite one I'd ever seen. But it was
also it was on the top that would really made
me go, oh, I need to be pay attention to
these girls'.
Speaker 2: Names like that.
Speaker 1: One comes high, come here, And I was like, okay,
you know, other than a couple of the obvious ones
that Jeff's already drafted, a lot of the others had
gotten past me, so so that one always stands out.
Speaker 2: I like Golden a lot. No more trivia from the Shirley.
Speaker 4: You can't be serious, guys, No, no, keep going man.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're starting round two. We're gonna do
another snake, but this time we'll uh, it'll start and
end with Jeff, Jeff, what you got.
Speaker 3: This is tough because I'm kind of I'm seeing how
some of the guys are going with you know, hey,
not not at the top of my order, but I
kind of wont her. So I'm gonna do that. This
isn't my next overall pick, but I'm gonna dip down
a little bit. I gotta I gotta take Honey Rider,
Miss the Lovely Ursula andres from Doctor No. Nineteen sixty
two good for all the right reasons. Let's be honest.
The Bond girl, that's a thing because of Ursula Andres.
Speaker 2: She's she's where.
Speaker 3: It all started, you know, she coming out of that
water and the white the white bikini with the dagger,
you know. And I gotta say, even for I have
to believe anyone that's even whether you're a hardcore fan,
you know, or you're just a casual viewer, everybody knows
that scene. Everyone knows that that look, and they relate
it to James Bond. So taking a taking honey rider.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great, big man. Some of those old
sixties women they seem a little bit like a young
version of my grandmother or something. But Ursula Andres, her beauty,
it's timeless, which I told you. I don't know if
I told you this, Jeff, But researching these Bond girls,
Ursula Andres had a love affair with Harry Hamlin on
the set of Clash of the Titans, and they had
a son from that relationship.
Speaker 3: I was like, get out of town thinking about the
genetics there. That's that's that's that's a great looking kid. Aphrodite,
and and and perright, come on.
Speaker 1: I mean that that shot of her walking out in
the white bikini, you know, and being in the first movie,
I think really icon and one of the defining moments
that kind of set the pace and the framework going forward.
And I'm sure it was made a huge impact on
American audiences in sixty three. It's uh, you know, it's
just one of those, I think, one of the iconic
film moments that kind of let everybody know right away
that this this whole franchise had legs.
Speaker 2: Well they even copied it themselves.
Speaker 5: Later with halle Berry and then later with Daniel Craig,
so it's like happened three times in the movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, remember the halle Berry homage there? All right,
very good. So we're gonna go with Pat Pat, You're.
Speaker 6: Up next, Okay, So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
with Paloma from No Time to Die And that was
played by Anna de Armas and Jason I think I'm
off your Christmas card list.
Speaker 4: Now I love I love her and that yes, stunning.
Speaker 6: Yeah, amazing. And so so here's what got me, you know, like,
like I said, big Bond fan, and when this film
came out, it was, you know, like getting back to
the theaters after COVID and all this kind of thing.
I'm like, Okay, I am going back, and I'm I
don't care if I'm going by myself. I'm going to
see this movie in the theaters. And so I got
a chance to see it, and I loved the whole movie,
and she was such a wonderful part of the movie
and the thing that I loved. And it was like
I was sitting in a theater almost wishing, like, man,
I wish I was at home so I could like
rewind and watch these scenes again. Because what I found
amazing is that at first it started off in my
mind like the stereotypical Bond girl, right, And like all
of a sudden, it was like, okay, she's she seems
a little bit bubbly, she seems a little out of place.
I'm sure that Daniel Krai is going to have to
bail her out. And then I started really kind of
my own age realizing, Okay, I'm closer to Daniel Craig
age than I am to her age. So that kind
of reshaped how I was looking at this character. And
then when this when the action, like you know when
everything started dusting up, and she was incredibly capable at
handling herself, incredibly capable in a fight. I mean, was
like an effective part of the team. I was just
blown away with this because it was such a bait
and sweat. You were totally expecting that, Okay, this is
gonna be a little she's gonna be out of storts
and Bond's gonna have to help her out. The other
thing that it only occurred to me after and then
I was rewatching is you know, at first, Bond's kind
of taken aback by her. She couldn't be less interested
in him as a person or like as like an
attractive thing. Like even when she's like here, change clothes
and he's just like, well, aren't you gonna and she goes, oh,
you need me to turn around? Like it just did.
It didn't even occur to her, and it was so
great that, Okay, now you have a Bond girl. But
they show and it was such an effective way to
show the age was like, and that's kind of where
I'm starting to feel closer Bond, Like he's not even
on her radar, like in terms of like physical attraction.
She is all about the mission, And I'm just like,
how awesome is that? Like you got someone you were
baited into thinking she's in experience. She's so focused on
the mission, so capable at executing the mission. I was
like blown away with that character. I thought, I thought
it was I thought it was awesome. And the way
Anna d Armis played it was was fantastic.
Speaker 4: She played Marilyn Monroe down the Road in a movie
called Blonde. So she's also.
Speaker 2: The main character in Knives Out, and.
Speaker 3: I believe is it she isn't she in the spin off?
She's about to do the spin off, the John wickspin
off Ballerina.
Speaker 2: I thought, I haven't heard. Yeah, I'm there, I'm there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, I gotta say, I'm I'm tracking your list.
And if there's if there's one word I could call it,
I would say exotic. There we go, There we go.
Speaker 5: They're both Craig movies, right, two of two of the
three are Yeah, he took.
Speaker 2: He also took Michelle.
Speaker 5: Yeoh, in case you forgot, had three she forgot.
Speaker 2: I don't think he forgot, so Van, you're on the clock,
all right.
Speaker 5: So I was just looking at my draft board here
and of the fifth of my top fifteen eight are gone,
but there's seven left and I have four that are
all tied. So my number five, six, seven, and eight
are really just tied for fifth. So I just got
to basically flip a roll of four sided die to
figure out where I'm going here, because they're all totally.
Speaker 2: Tied and they're equally good. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, talking about Daniel Craig, he is
like a week younger than me.
Speaker 2: I don't have the mileage that he does.
Speaker 5: I don't, but I haven't done some of the things
he's done, though, so I missed out on that far.
But anyway, sure, yeah, all right, So I gotta make
a choice here, and I've got five, well, I got
four tied together to choose among, and I mean, you
really can't go wrong with any of these, so I'm
gonna go again. I'm using my strategy of high value
target and I look at these four and one of
them is I think a little more special, just a
tiny bit more special, because she's the only one on
the entire draft board. That is Missus James Bond. Oh, yes,
Vincenzo better known as Tracy Bond. Diana Rigg from on
her Majesty's Secret Service. I can't believe she's still here
in round three. So I gotta jump, I gotta I
have to jump on Diana rig if you'll excuse me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Van, you're becoming that You're becoming the guy that
steals my picks.
Speaker 4: Now you're that guy?
Speaker 2: Pat? Meanwhile, Pat? Okay, so not just me? Yeah? Very good.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of ages, I figured out that I am
right now the same age Sean Connery was in Never
Say Never Again.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I may you know.
Speaker 1: I'm not attracting combasing her types, but I think I'm
doing pretty good for myself, all right.
Speaker 4: When I first saw for you as only you have
that opening scene where he's visiting her grave, that's right,
and so I was like, whoa, what is this?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: What what's story is being told here that I don't know?
And so that kind of helped drive my interest in Bond.
I had to find out who is Teresa Bond?
Speaker 6: You know, so you go, that's great, and you know,
I don't want to get too far off the track,
but you know, it's funny on her. Majesty's Secret Service,
I don't want to say was ignored, but it was
always like the Daniel or not Daniel, the Sean Connery
and the Roger Moore Bonds like growing.
Speaker 2: Up and that's what my grandparents pay.
Speaker 6: And it was only when I got to college that
one of my friends was like, on Her Majesty's Secret
Service is the best Bond film ever. This was like
early nineties, and I like, really, and he goes the
best ever, what you know? And the only thing is
like he thought that the actor that portrayed Bond, you know,
he had a favorite, you know, I think he liked
Sean Connery or whatnot. But yeah, then I watched on
Her Majesty's Secret Service and I was blown away, and
I thought, missus Bond, like that movie is awesome and
somehow maybe I don't know how you guys are with it,
but it almost kind of fell in the cracks growing up,
you know, between all the other ones going out there.
Speaker 5: Well, the thing was they wouldn't show it on ABC
like they did Live in Life Time and the others,
and it was not financially successful like the That's one
of the reasons that he didn't return. The other reason
was he quit because he got all big head thinking
he was the biggest star in the world. But the
thing about that Jason you mentioned about Seeing the Grave,
that movie was the only one where they just filmed
the book. Peter Hunt, the editor, was allowed to direct
that one and he said, I'm not going to do
some you know, take the book and mess it all up.
We're just gonna film the book. And they did, and
it really doesn't fit into the series. In fact, Blofeld
is in that movie and he's never seen Bond before
when he just fought Bond in the previous movie.
Speaker 2: It doesn't fit in. And you could have just said.
Speaker 5: It's like outside of continuity, except for for your eyes
only brings it back into continuity, so you're stuck with
it being Yeah, so it's very confusing, But yeah, that's
absolutely It's easy.
Speaker 1: For me as a casual fan to dismiss it, you know,
it's easy to think to myself and that one doesn't
really count because it was just a one shot for Lesanbie.
Speaker 5: That's the movie that the real Bond connoisseurs consider the
best in the series. By the way, it's the one
that casual fans think is the worst and the Bond
fans think is the best.
Speaker 2: Generally, because truet to the book.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, pick good, pick.
Speaker 1: All right, So Jason, you get two in a row here. So, Jason,
what's your first one?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so excited that both of these people are
still available. So Van I think mentioned that the ABC
movies being shown in the seventies and eighties, and that's
kind of where I I caught on, I guess in
the early eighties. So I watched The Spy Who Loved
Me on ABC and absolutely fell in love. That's my
favorite Roger Moore James Bond movie. It even surpasses for
you it is only which was my first love. So
I love The Spy Who Love Me? And so I
am taking Agent Triple X as my next pick.
Speaker 2: Anya, I'm a Silva.
Speaker 4: Missus ringo star played by Barbara Bach. Her dress was
captivating as a young man, so.
Speaker 5: To say the least, Jason, I appreciate her. Again, I
hate the movie for personal reasons. She is not my
favorite Bond girl in that movie.
Speaker 4: Oh what, yeah, my gosh, wow, I.
Speaker 2: Love it's interesting. This is interesting.
Speaker 5: So it's such a subjective thing, right, It's all a
subjective thing.
Speaker 2: It's that's what's so cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you know that she recommended Grace Jones for
a view to a kill. Oh wow, I thought that
was an interesting admit so.
Speaker 2: And darn good recommendation.
Speaker 4: Heck yeah, okay, so am I back to back?
Speaker 2: Yep, back to back? You get your second pick?
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I am taking the thirty eight
year old beautiful bod Adams as octopusy Octope, even though
technically she should be on the board twice.
Speaker 2: She should be well two different characters.
Speaker 4: I feel like her chemistry with Roger or because there
are both similar ages that I believed it a lot
more than him chasing some of these younger girls or
Bbi throwing herself at him and that type of thing.
Speaker 3: So b B doll alone.
Speaker 5: BET's on my board, but not highly Yeah so uh.
Speaker 2: I think we're all comic book fans here.
Speaker 1: When the last time I did a little Bond marathon
over the weekend, I was struck by Maud Adams just
by how similar she looked to a John Besima drawing.
I think, uh, he's one of the best artists when
it comes to drawing women, and he has a distinctive style,
and I think Maud Adams, especially in this movie, looks
like a John Busimma drawing brought.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm saying I am absolutely seeing that now.
Speaker 2: Wow. So she makes an impression on me and she
has to go high on my board too. All right,
very good?
Speaker 1: Well, uh, Jeff, I'm afraid Jason took one of your
one of your you know, Juice, see your names off
the board for you.
Speaker 3: I couldn't take them, all right.
Speaker 4: When I was at the movie there, I was just
gonna say this. In nineteen eighty three, I went to
the mood there with my dad and the guy came
out and said, the last screening for Octopus. He has
been sold out. And these teenagers behind me were like,
oc to what oct What? My dad was like, do
you ever act that way? Public? I'll kill you?
Speaker 2: Did you just turn around and watch Never Say Never again? Instead?
Speaker 4: I think I watched Superman three.
Speaker 2: Actually, all right, so let's keep it going, and it's
a tragedy story from all right, Van, you're back on
the block. It's back to you.
Speaker 5: Well, of my top seven on the board, two are
still available, so and then two of my top two
more in the top top ten, so four available here.
Let me see, I still got three of those that
are equally ranked. And I now I got to figure
out which one of them is the most gets most.
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. I got a Connery, a Craig,
and a brazenin I haven't picked the Craig yet.
Speaker 4: I don't think you still got girls left in the
Spy love me. I'm just reminded you this is true.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 2: But she's pretty far down though. But I you know what,
I'm gonna have to go with this the classic.
Speaker 5: I gotta go with just the Clare's the thing that's
cool about two of them is like neat, but this
is just the classic. I would be remiss not to
take her when she's there. We just had a Russian
agent taked I'm taking another Russian agent, Tatiana Romanova Daniella
Bianchi from Russia.
Speaker 2: With Love.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, she doesn't do a whole lot in
that movie, but dang well, she does a lot.
Speaker 6: For you.
Speaker 5: She's arguably the most beautiful of all the Bond girls.
I would argue, I think if you had it, if
just a beauty contest, I think she might be number one.
Speaker 4: That's why the yeah, right, and I'm sorry, what was
the character's name.
Speaker 2: Romanova related to Black Widow? I was going to say
every Russian agent apparently his named Romanov. It is there,
all royalty, bizarre. All right, very good, let's keep it going, Pat,
you're up, You're on the clock.
Speaker 6: I was actually until you made that pick, I was
kind of like torn between the next two.
Speaker 2: But this, this is this is that.
Speaker 6: Okay, it takes one of my picks off the board.
There I'm gonna go with the movie Thunderball and Fiona Volpei.
There you go, PELUSI yeah, And so Thunderball was I
remember seeing all the Bond movies growing up as a kid,
but Thunderball was the one that really stuck in my
mind because I love the water. I love the ocean,
I love the swimmings, I love all of that, and
so as a kid, I love boats. I love the water.
And that summed it all up. And what I liked
about the Fiona character was that she was tough. I mean,
I know she was, like, you know, on the bad
guy side, but I mean like she was like capable
and I'm just reading kind of like one of the
bio She has no issue killing anyone who gets in
her way or screws up the mission, and like you know,
like I mean to say that, you know, killing anyone.
But I mean, like we've all had days like that
where it's just like, Okay, if anybody screws up the mission,
they're going to deal with my bad side, you know.
So I really, I just I appreciated that that, you know,
like she just came out again. And I'm repeating myself
from some of the other characters, but it was just
like super focused, super professional, and dangerous because she was
on the bad guy side, right but for the bad
guy side, super effective. So it was just fun watching
her on screen. And she just has to you know,
you know, check her six when Bond swirls her around
with the dam you know. I would hope that if
they reshot this movie today, they would do everything the same,
but as opposed to getting like a shot in the back,
there would be some epic fight scene like in uh,
you know, like in some of the Mission Impossible movies
or something like, you know, like they like there would
just that would be awesome. But anyways, I digress. That's
that's my that's my What was that fourth pick? It
would be Fiona Volpe from Thunderball.
Speaker 5: She has one of my favorite Connery moments of all time.
She's in the bathtub and he comes in and he's
just sitting there talking to her, and she's got to
get up, and she says, would you hand me something
to wear?
Speaker 2: And he hands her shoes. Correct, I love it. Can
I bar your towel? My cards just hit a water buffalo? Okay.
So to finish up the round, we have Jeff on
the clock.
Speaker 3: Well, Van earlier mentioned we were talking about how we
were ranking, how we came up with our rankings, and
you know, you immediately want to go with your favorites, right,
and then you start using you know, the clever ranking system,
and then you figure out, wait, this person wasn't even
on my radar, and you know she's my six pick.
She's my six overall, which is surprising to me, but
I mean I gotta go with the best overall at
this point. So talking about nineteen eighty nine Licensed to
Kill Pam Bouvier played by the lovely Carrie Lowell, this
is one of those things where I was like, wait,
how did she get How was she so highly ranked
on my list? And I mean she's a freelance pilot
for the CIA.
Speaker 2: That's here.
Speaker 3: X Factor shot through the roof on that you know,
great chemistry with Dalton, so and you know, pretty integral
to the story. You know, she's she you know she's
informing on the on the bad guy. So surprisingly she
was high on the list, and I'm happy to see
that she is still there. So I'm taking Pam Bouvier
one of my least favorite Bond movies as well.
Speaker 1: Say, do we have any Dalton haters here? Because I
actually I actually liked the Dalton movies.
Speaker 4: I love Dalton, I love him as a character. I
liked Living Daylights. But I'm not a fan of License
to Kill.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's probably my It's in my bottom three,
along with A View to a Kill and maybe Octopusy.
Speaker 2: Honestly, so, Wayne Newton does not strike fear into your heart. No,
she's one of the best things about it, though I agree,
I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't see Wayne Newton striking fear, especially after the
The Andrew Dice Clay movie. You know, Newton's the bad guy.
Come on, we can do better.
Speaker 1: Wayne Newton's best cinematic appearance was when Ferris Bueller lip
synced to him in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I don't
need him as a Bond villain.
Speaker 2: I agreed.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, so we're picking five girls each today and
everyone has made four picks.
Speaker 2: Yes, So we're down to the home stretch.
Speaker 1: It's going to go Pat is up next and then
it'll be Van, Jason and Jeff will close this out.
Speaker 2: So don't you do it?
Speaker 6: Okay. So I'm starting to look at this and you know,
looking at okay, I'm constructing a team right now, like
it's going to accomplish a mission, right like, and how
do I balance out the team? You know in my
fantasy world that like any one of these characters would
follow me anywhere. But the other thing I look at too,
is I sometimes and if you listen to the podcast,
like the thirty something podcast, like sometimes I'd just like
to tick people off, just to kind of do it
and change things up or throwing a hey have you
thought about this play Devil's Advocate and all that. And
so for my final choice, I'm going to go again
with No Time to Die, I'm going to go with
the female double O seven character of Know Me, played
by LASHAWNA Lynch. And I thought that was I thought
it was great. I thought that part of the movie
was great. I thought the way she played it was great.
I thought the way she gave Daniel Craig a hard time,
or James Bond, not Daniel Craig, the way she gave
James Bond a hard time.
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna kick you in the knee, the one
that works. I'm just like, oh my god, that is awesome.
Speaker 6: And then what was great was that that in a
way we were watching movie within a movie and she
was the new Double O seven on the mission for
I six, and that that could have been like a
whole Bond movie, like that could have been what Daniel
Craig was in Casino Royale. And I thought that she
played that so well. I think it was awesome to
see a black woman playing the Double oh seven role.
And I mean, obviously this isn't the nature of the
of what this episode's about, but you know, whenever you
change things up, there gets to be controversy, right. I
remember when Daniel Craig was cast and everyone was freaking
out because he was blonde, and you know, they're like,
you can't have a blonde James Bond, Like.
Speaker 2: What the heck?
Speaker 6: But I thought they did such a great job of Okay,
well no, this is Double oh seven but it's not
James Bond and just seeing the interplay and needless to say,
she's you know, an m I six double oh. So
you know, she's incredibly effective. So if I'm looking at
my team here, I would definitely want to have her
on the team. And now I'm looking at this and thinking, man,
this would make an excellent movie.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, Lashana Lynch know me from No Time
to Die?
Speaker 4: Okay, can I say something?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, everybody, everybody back up just a second, because Pat
just selected Mutt on a Best Indiana Jones list. Oh
why I am not. I was not a fan of
that turn in No Time to Die giving the hallowed
double oh seven number to anyone else, I was like,
what are you doing? No, that belongs to Bond?
Speaker 2: What do you And I.
Speaker 4: Understand why they did it in the movie stuff, But
I I uh kind of hard time swallowing that.
Speaker 2: I wish you would bring me up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I wish you had told me he had picked Mutt
before I agreed to moderate this episode. I'm just playing. Actually,
I revisited Crystal School late recently, and I actually don't
hate it as much as I did before. That's not
to say that I don't hate it, but it's got
some redeeming value there that I haven't noticed before. But
that's a different episode. All Right, We ready to keep going, Yes,
let's keep it. All right, we're on our final pick
for van Van. How are you gonna round out your team?
Speaker 5: Well, Pat, did you've pretty much cleaned out the Daniel
Craig files now, right?
Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of. It was kind of weighted towards those.
Speaker 2: It was, it was except for the one that you
didn't right, in.
Speaker 6: All fairness, In all fairness, I mean, I didn't have
any exclamations of awe. But like basically all of my
like ones from the earlier movies were taken Octopussy, Anya
Amasova and then you grabbed Danielle Bianchi that and that
was between her and the other one. So I did
have some earlier ones there on my list, but but
you guys got to them first. But I'm not I'm
not complaining because I just the Michelle Yo thing. I'm
still I'm gonna watch my back leaving the podcast both
probably smart.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we're gonna pick the one we would
take from another roster and I think everybody knows which
one I'm going to take fro another roster, all right,
So if the top seven on my board, there's only
one left. But I'm not sure I want her. If
I go buy numbers, you know what I mean. If
I go by numbers, that's who's there. But I don't
I with my last pick.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I might want to go with my heart a little bit,
you know what I'm saying. So I've got two that
are rated higher, and then I got one that's more
in my heart. I want the Bond folks to look
at my list and go, man, he cleaned up, right,
But I also.
Speaker 2: Kind of want to be able to feel good about
it myself. Call here, Oh gosh.
Speaker 4: You got four solids, right, I mean, you got you
got a strong roster.
Speaker 5: I feel I feel very good about my about my
my team. But I mean, you know, I gotta I've
got I've got only about ten of them that are
ranked in the forties, and there's three left that are
in the forties here, and I gotta decide which one
of those to take. I'm you know, I'm gonna have
to just pull the trigger here, No pun intended A
Bond I think, yeah, you know what, I'm gonna go
with my heart, especially since I didn't get way l.
I'm gonna get Aki from you only lift twice. I
like that she's the other Asian fighting character. That's that's cool,
so we'll go with her. That's she was the third though,
So there's two I still have above, and I'm I
may kick myself later, but we'll see hey.
Speaker 3: For as long as one of them is a Kissy Suzuki,
I think you're You're okay.
Speaker 2: She was the other one. I mean, she's there. She
she and Aki are pretty close together.
Speaker 5: But I think for me, but what you know in
the books, Kissy Suzuki has Bond's kid. Yeah, I mean yeah,
but I went with Aki just because she's got the
cool wool whites Honda or whatever that she rolls around
in and she outsmarts Bond a couple of times, tricks
him to go down in the layer of Tiger Tanaka,
and clearly she's Tiger's first choice for agent. He kind
of goes to Kissy when Aki's unfortunately killed. So I
really like Aki a lot, so I'm going to go
with Aki.
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, her death scene was another
one that I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, not her, No, I love Aki.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good one.
Speaker 2: All right, So Jason, you're on the clock for your
final pick.
Speaker 4: Okay, before I make my final pick, I've got this
nugget that I want to throw out there. I come
across this and I hope I'm not stealing just thunder here.
But Tiffany Case who was played by Jill Saint John
and Diamonds Are Forever and plenty Old Tool who was
played by Lona Wood and Diamonds Are Forever. I found
this very interesting. Those two women absolutely hate each other,
like they can't be in the same room together. So
this is the interesting thing. So Lana Wood is the
younger sister to Natalie Wood. Okay, and of course she
was married to Robert Wagner and her death was this
very controversial thing. A lot of people think Robert Wagner
had something to do with it. Well, Jill Saint John
actually married Robert Wagner and they've been married for like
fifty years or whatever, and so Lana Wood still thinks
that Robert Wagner killed her sister, and Jill Saint John
is obviously married to Robert Wagner, so they can't even
they couldn't do a diamondsar Forever photo shoot ever again,
because it can't mean wow wow.
Speaker 5: Okay, I think there's probably a lot of people that
think that Robert Wagner is married to Stephanie Powers.
Speaker 2: But that's a whole other age. That's a good.
Speaker 4: All right. So my number five and my number seven
are still on the board. And then I've got Olga Carolinko,
who I'm absolutely in love with. She's like my Monica
Balucci for Pat. Anytime I see Olga Carolinko, I'm like,
oh my gosh, that woman who majors. But I gotta
leave her off. I'm not. I'm gonna choose something better
with my head, I think. But the whole reason we
started this discussion is I think I told Jeff that
Electric King, played by Sophie Marceau, was a first rounder.
Ye yes, but I but I'm not gonna take her. Okay,
she would be my sixth pick.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 4: What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go off board.
I'm gonna give Pat a chance to kill me because
I just torched him for his pick. I am taking
a woman that I probably would guess is not on
anyone's list Miami, and I'm not taking money buy and
I'm not taking she in Easton, I'm taking Fatima Blush
played by Barbara Carrera, who was from Never Say Never Again.
Speaker 2: Never, Never, Never Again Never.
Speaker 4: She's actually the same character that Fiona Volpe plays in Thunderbolt.
That's right, and Bond actually kills her with the bazooka
gun right while she's making him sign a confession. She's
the greatest woman he's ever been with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 6: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And his response is, well, there was this girl in Philadelphia,
but I just absolutely loved her. I know a lot
of people hate Never Say Never Again, but she is
such a great fem fatale and she's beautiful. I'm taking her,
Fatima Bush.
Speaker 5: I totally forgot about Never Say Never Again.
Speaker 2: That's that's good.
Speaker 5: And I'm surprised you didn't go, Kim Bason, You're when
you went over to Never Say Never Again.
Speaker 4: I was tempted. I know, interesting, Pat, I feel bad
about about land Basin. You're just meant to go. I'm sorry,
don't invite you in at the last second, and I
rip your pick. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: That's fine, man, I'm just looking at my picks, you
know you better watch out because they're gonna uh, you know,
they can come take care of business before you even
know what's going on.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: So next up will be Jeff for the final pick
of this draft. When he's done, we'll have everybody go
through and kind of announce the raw her real quick
to remind everybody of who they ended up with, and
then we're going to do a round of where everyone
gets to pick from someone else's roster. If you could
take one Bond girl from somebody else that they drafted,
who would you take so that you could have her
on your team?
Speaker 2: All right? So Jeff take away for us your final
pick in the draft.
Speaker 3: Very honored to have the final pick, and I'm loving
the fact that my eighth overall is still on the board. Look,
Jason Van, you guys were talking and Never Say Never Again,
and you know, I know it's divisive with the Bond
fans because of Thunderball, but I'm happy to say that
my final pick will be Domino Patachi aka Kim Bessinger
in Never Say Never Again.
Speaker 4: Wow, right there, you can see it on the list.
Speaker 3: I was waiting and I Honestly, I thought, I thought,
this will be my this will be my my curve
ball because non Cannon Bond. You know, depending on who
you talk to, and you know, it's is it Thunderball,
is it not Thunderball. There's such a whole history with
these two movies, so I but it's one of my
one of the things, one of the ones I liked
a lot when I was growing up. I still remember
the cool thing he did with his watch with a laser,
you know, when they're I think they're somewhere in Afghanistan
or something like that or create the interesting fact here,
this is nineteen eighty three Kim Basinger. They had went
after her several times to play a Bond girl. She
turned down. She had turned it down, but she turned
it up twice. I know Moonbreaker was one of the
ones she turned down. She wanted to be taken as
a serious actress, so at this point in her career
it wasn't happening. She finally says, you know what, I'll
do it and rest is history because I you know,
we talk, you know in van you know you probably
have talked about this maybe on your podcast about the
what they call the Bond Girl Curse. I would say
it worked out for her for sure. Final Pig, Domino,
the lovely Kim Basinger, good one, right, good one.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, how do you all fill about your teams?
Speaker 4: I love my roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So just.
Speaker 1: To recap and remind everybody, let's list. Let's announce the rosters.
Letybody know exactly who you ended up with, and we'll
go in the original draft order. So, Jason, who do
you got?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 4: I got vesper lynd Zania on a top Agent, Triple X,
Octapussy and Fatima Blush excellent, and.
Speaker 3: Jeff quite a quite a round up round up here.
I've got Pussy Galore, Holly Goodhead, Honey Ryder, Pam Bouvier,
and Domino Patacci that's strong.
Speaker 2: Strong, and then Pat with the Uh with the strike team.
Who do you have there?
Speaker 6: I've got Luccia Sciara, way Linn, Paloma, Fiona Volpe and
know Me.
Speaker 3: Tough job, good job, very nice work, Pat and Van.
Speaker 5: I've got Solitaire, Melina Haveloc, Tracy Bond, Tatiana Romanova and Aki.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's go ahead and get into the
round of of stealing a pick from somebody else's roster
if you could do that, Jeff from I'll let you
go first that you're at the top of the screen
here for me, what's.
Speaker 2: What's the name that was picked today that you wish
you could have drafted?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I would have went with vesper Lynde right out
the gate if I had the shot.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that scene in the train car when her and
Bond go back and forth like figuring each other out. Man,
that is incredible, Like just you're a and she just
he goes right down the list and then he's and
then she says, okay, well let me go, you know,
and she just nails all the things. I mean, that's
just great, awesome, awesome acting scene, but then awesome like
character development for who she.
Speaker 3: Was, you know, talking character development and matching wits and
all that with Bond. Casino Royal also has one of
my favorite scenes in the Bond movies, and probably one
of my more favorite scenes in Casina Royal is after
he dispatches a couple guys finds her in the shower,
clearly traumatized.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that tender moment.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was probably the last time you saw
Bond care so deeply about a woman was probably on
her Majesty's secret service. I love that that soft, tender
moment that they share, and that's where you're like, you
know what, She's not gonna be just another notch on
the bedpost. She's he's into her, you know.
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, love Vesper, Yeah, Austome Jason, what pick would you steal?
Speaker 4: Okay, the highest girl on my list that is not
on my roster is Solitaire from Live and Let Die,
a young beautiful Jane Seymour, and she know she's impacting
the story and then of course the whole thing of
her losing her powers to bond because he steals her
purity whatever. Solitaire is just a personal favorite of mine
and Jane zymore, how can you?
Speaker 2: How can you lose so excellent? Van? I think we
all know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 5: But uh well, my number one on the board was
Weiland at forty six points.
Speaker 2: By the way, I tap point.
Speaker 5: My number two was Solitaire at forty five, but my
number three was Vesper at four forty four. But using
my value theory of drafting, I probably would have picked
Vesper with the first pick.
Speaker 2: I ended up with my second choice.
Speaker 5: So because both one and three were gone, I believe
by the time it was my choice, but I got
number two, so I'm happy with that. But I had
to take Witlan because I absolutely love Michelle Yo. I
love Waitlan. She does such cool stuff in that movie.
She's way cooler than Bond. And that's my favorite Bond too, Brison,
and yet she's out she out cools my favorite Bond.
So yeah, awesome and pat, which when would you pick?
Speaker 6: I would go from the spy who loved me. I
would go with Major Anya Amasolo. We already talked about,
you know how awesome the character was and just such
a great foil for Bond and on a personal mission
as well as a professional mission.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, excellent.
Speaker 1: All right, well, gentlemen, that's gonna do it for our
Bond Girl draft. Thank you very much for getting together
for this. It was tons of fun for me. I
feel like we had a bit of an Avengers All
Star matchup here with all my favorite podcast to getting
together on one spot, And thank you very much.
Speaker 2: For allowing me the honor of being able to moderate it.
Speaker 1: We are publishing this episode on April thirteenth, and that
is significant because it is actually the seventieth anniversary of
the original James Bond novel, Casino Royal, and so to
kind of mark that event, we decided to get these
guys together and have a little James Bond discussion. I
hope everybody enjoyed it as much as I did. Now
we've drafted these teams, but who won, well, that is
up to you. Be able to lookout for all these
guys their social media accounts and you will see an
opportunity to kind of review the rosters and then vote
on who you think was the winner.
Speaker 2: And if you just.
Speaker 1: Follow follow any of these guys on social media, you'll
see how it all turns out.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys for being here. I had tons of fun.
We got to do this again sometime and talk about
other things. So appreciate you guys being willing to do this.
On Saturday afternoon, James Bond will return, Ames Von will return.
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you