1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: You were listening to petlifradio dot com and. 2 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Good morning or good afternoon, whoever the case may be, 3 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,199 to all of you. 4 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:28,519 Speaker 3: You are here for the next thirty minutes. 5 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:31,559 Speaker 2: But doctor Jeff Werber, here on pet Life Radio's only 6 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:34,399 live call it radio show, asked the vats with doctor Jeff, 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,960 and I want to wish all you mothers out there 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,240 are very happy Mother's Day, and I hope you're enjoying 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,799 some nice weather. I know that Mark, our wonderful producer 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,600 out in Florida, is having a great day. 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Lastly, you can I mean email to Drgeff 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,439 that's doctor Jeff at Petlife Radio dot com and I 42 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,360 will see a box live with your question and we 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,240 can talk about doesn't have to be a question, it 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,360 could be a comment. Beco be anything, you know, it's 45 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,319 just whatever we can do. 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: To talk about would be great. 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I still have not finished 48 00:02:23,879 --> 00:02:25,960 my series on respiratory conditions. 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: I still really want to get to it. 50 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: I think we'll try the second part of the show, 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,319 but I do want to talk about it. A case 52 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,120 that I had this week, that is, it just reminds 53 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:35,520 me that even though to me it's so much common 54 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,520 sense to anybody in the business, anybody who's had pets before, 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,560 anyone who's had this happen to their dog, it becomes 56 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:44,479 now common sense. But apparently by the fact that I'm 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,000 still seeing it, we're still seeing in practice. You know, 58 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:50,759 as I often joke, common sense isn't really common cause 59 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,120 if it were, more people would have it. So this 60 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:56,599 is something where we have to reiterate again and again 61 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:01,520 and again the importance of the following. This magnificent, oh 62 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:04,479 maybe ten month old wine ron or puppy was in 63 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,039 adr ADR. 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,719 Speaker 3: I've used the term before. 65 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:11,039 Speaker 2: It's just kind of an acronym for ain't doing right, 66 00:03:11,319 --> 00:03:12,759 you know, kind of going back to the old days 67 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:16,000 of the country doc, and so how's he doing it? 68 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:16,719 Speaker 3: Ain't doing right? 69 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,039 Speaker 2: So we call it adr pretty universal in the veterinary world. 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,520 So he vomited once and not since, but just was 71 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,960 very sluggish, very depressed, and did not want to eat, 72 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:32,080 refuse to eat. So we took some X rays, took 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,439 some blood. The let's came back okay. The X rays 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,599 did not show. This is what's so unusual and interesting, 75 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,240 which is why it's so important when there's an obstruction. 76 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:45,039 When there is something blocking the gastric outflow or sets 77 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,120 up shops somewhere within the intestine itself and blocks, we 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,520 get a pattern, a gas pattern called an obstructive pattern. 79 00:03:52,759 --> 00:03:55,840 So even though if the object or that which is 80 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,280 causing the instruction does not show up on X ray, 81 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:01,319 meaning it is radio loosened clear on an X ray, 82 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,479 we can use the pattern to determine whether or not 83 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:07,599 there's a high suggestibility that we have a block, we 84 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,879 have an obstruction. This dog did not, so we give 85 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:14,400 it some fluids. Way to day and next morning we 86 00:04:14,439 --> 00:04:17,639 take our X rays and the pattern nothing really has changed. 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,120 But what struck us most importantly was the contents and 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,439 the stomach was still in the stomach, but we couldn't 89 00:04:23,439 --> 00:04:28,399 feel anything, feeling really weak, depressed, So we do what's 90 00:04:28,519 --> 00:04:31,160 called a barium study. Our ultrasound did not show anything, 91 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,560 and there's a good reason for it, and we do 92 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:37,199 a barium study and we're questioning the owner. Is she 93 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:39,319 the kind of dog that would eat like something? And 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,079 he says, no, no, she's fantastic. Did you ever see 95 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:45,439 her chewing on anything? Is anybody missing anything? Because now 96 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:49,240 we're suspicious that maybe there's something going on here. And 97 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,879 I'm thinking along the lines of like underwear or a 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,120 sock or something, And he says, well, you know, the 99 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,959 only thing she does is she likes to chew on 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:57,680 some carpeting. 101 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: Really, what do you mean chew on carpeting? 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,399 Speaker 2: Apparently we're a little more questioning, and it struck us 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,639 that we think that this dog had gotten into something 104 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,680 way more than the owner expected and is causing the problem. 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,839 So we resort to the barium study. Varium studies where 106 00:05:12,879 --> 00:05:15,759 we give a die and we put the dye down 107 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:17,240 in the mouth and the stomach. Sometimes we have to 108 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,199 feed it through the stomach to taste good, so you 109 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,319 usually they'll drink it, and then we follow along the 110 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,000 die through the intestinal track to find out is it 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,040 going to a point and stopping? Is it going at all? 112 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:31,399 Is it going very quickly? What's going on with is die? 113 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:36,000 So we take our series and interestingly, stuff is getting through, 114 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,959 but slowly, and it's still staying in the stomach way 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,680 longer than it should. And we are convinced at this 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,040 point that this dog is obstructed. It's obstructed with something 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,839 that is radio loosened. It is obstructed. That is causing 118 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:51,639 a partial obstructure. Because some of the dye did go through, 119 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:54,519 but the fact that most of it was still in 120 00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:57,040 the stomach and stayed in the stomach for way longer 121 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,240 than it was supposed to it required what we call 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,600 it an explore where we go in surgically and we 123 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:05,399 go ahead and look and remove what we can. So, 124 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:10,639 going in surgically, as suspected, much of that which was 125 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,759 in the stomach was this fabric, this stuff. And interestingly, 126 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,120 because of how it was congealing and how what it 127 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:22,240 formed like in the stomach, it looked like ingesta, It 128 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,000 looked like food stuff, which is why that was the puzzle. 129 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:26,759 And when we first and that's why nothing really showed 130 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,800 up unusual because you really couldn't tell an ultrasound or 131 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:31,079 X ray was it food? 132 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: Was it not? 133 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,199 Speaker 2: Food. 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,519 Speaker 4: Was it? 135 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: What was it? 136 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, and this is the part that is so serious. 137 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:42,879 This is why, for example, we are so careful when 138 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,879 we know our cats or we have cats that like 139 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,519 to chew on string. That's why you need to be 140 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,600 so careful with the classic yarn, or when you throw 141 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:56,680 away a fairly substantial piece of dental floss in the garbage, 142 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,160 because these things can cause what we call a string 143 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:04,879 foreign body. And that's where part of the beginning of 144 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:07,560 the string stays in the stomach. The rest is getting 145 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,800 through into the do dNaM, into the small intestine and 146 00:07:11,319 --> 00:07:13,879 being felt by the musculature of the small intestine, it 147 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:15,560 stimulates the peristaltic waves. 148 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: Those are the normal muscular. 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: Contraction waves that propel anything from inside the gastro intestinal 150 00:07:23,079 --> 00:07:25,759 tract to the back part, in other words, to get 151 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:29,839 it out from stomach to small intestine to the iliosco 152 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:34,160 cola junction, to the large intestine to colon and ultimately out. 153 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,759 And that still works. So here it is when you 154 00:07:37,959 --> 00:07:43,720 can't propel that long, thickened string like substance forward because 155 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,120 it's locked and part of it is stuck in the stomach. 156 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:50,279 What happens if you can imagine picture a curtain on 157 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,040 a curtain rod where it starts to plycate. It starts 158 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:58,120 because the object can't move through the GI tract. 159 00:07:58,279 --> 00:07:59,199 Speaker 3: The GI track. 160 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Starts to accordion onto the substance that's inside that's causing 161 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:08,360 the obstruction in the process. It's almost like piano wire 162 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:12,560 they call it jiggly wire that is sawing back and 163 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:15,480 forth as the intestine is doing its thing and trying 164 00:08:15,519 --> 00:08:19,199 to push and push and push and pull this thing through. Instead, 165 00:08:19,399 --> 00:08:23,360 it is tearing the GI tract. And that is a 166 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,879 very very serious complication of a foreign body. It's almost 167 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,240 as if when you have something that is much larger 168 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:35,120 blocking the GI tract, it is trying to contract around it. 169 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:38,440 And so it happens it gets so tight. Picture a 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,879 snake that is going to like a constrictor that is 171 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:46,080 going to wrap itself around its prey. And what happens 172 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,279 They pray, can't breathe the snake is so tight around 173 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,000 the chest. So what happens here is the muscular contractions 174 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:56,200 become so tight they cut off their own blood supply. 175 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,720 So now what happens is the tissue starts to die, 176 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,320 starts to break open, and now we have what we 177 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:07,559 call a peritonitis. So anytime there is leakage from the 178 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,159 gastrointestinal tract into the abdominal cavity, obviously there is there 179 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,159 are thousands of bacteria within the intestinal track. 180 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: The inside of the abdominal cavity should. 181 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: Be sterile, and we end up with a major, major infection. 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,559 And that's one of the reasons why this dog was 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,039 so so depressed and lethargic, even though it was no 184 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,639 longer vomiting, even though it didn't really have a fever, 185 00:09:31,639 --> 00:09:34,960 which was kind of puzzling, and it was because the 186 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:39,440 intestine had started to leak. So after removing this clump 187 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,159 of fabric, whatever the heck it was, we then had 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,759 to do what's called an intestinal anastomosis. That's where we 189 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:52,559 have to cut away the damaged torn portion that is 190 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,480 doesn't have a good blood supply, is no longer functioning well. 191 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:59,440 We have to remove it and then sow the two free, clean, 192 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,440 clean edges together. What was a complicating factor in this 193 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,000 case is there is a very very important structure, important 194 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,720 in many ways because it has the multi functions. It 195 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:15,600 functions as an endocrine gland, it functions as an excrine, 196 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:20,679 gland as an endocrine gland, it regulates our insulin. As 197 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,320 a excerra land, it helps the digestion. It's called the pancreas, 198 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,399 and the part of the intestine that was destroyed trying 199 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,279 to propel this foreign body through involved some of the pancreas, 200 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,200 so it made it very challenging to try to preserve 201 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:38,360 as much of the pancreas or all the pancreas, but 202 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,120 most importantly the blood supply to the pancreas and the 203 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:45,399 pancreatic ducts without compromising that blood supply, while we had 204 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,840 to tie off blood supply to and remove that damaged 205 00:10:48,919 --> 00:10:51,879 portion of the intestine. So the take home lesson here 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,840 as we're about to break is don't assume. 207 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,279 Speaker 3: That anything is sacred in your home. 208 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: If you have a puppy or they will look for 209 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,240 and chew on anything. They will chew on Murphy's law. 210 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,679 They will choose often the most expensive item that they 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,879 can find. They will chew the most damaging item that 212 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,240 they can find. And it's so critical when those of 213 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:18,320 us that have had babies, or those of you that 214 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,279 have babies, what do you do to your house? 215 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:22,159 Speaker 3: You babyproof your house, You. 216 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: Put the plug sockets in, You put the little latches 217 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,320 on the drawers and the cabinets. You anticipate that my 218 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:29,600 kid is gonna get where it's not supposed to. You're 219 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,840 gonna block the stairs, You're gonna put the alarm on 220 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:33,919 the door, the outside door. If you have a swimming pool, 221 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:36,000 you're gonna put a fence around the pool. All these 222 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,360 things you do because you anticipate that problem and you 223 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,600 want to protect your child. No different for your dogs 224 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,360 and your cats. You need to anticipate. You need to 225 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,440 look around. You need to say to yourself, what is 226 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,919 it even possible for him or her to get a 227 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:52,759 hold of, And if it is, just remove it, cover it, 228 00:11:53,039 --> 00:11:56,960 set up a barricade something, because this was the most 229 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,840 expensive piece of carpeting. And I don't mean just what 230 00:11:59,879 --> 00:12:02,799 it cost the owner to buy. I mean what it 231 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,080 cost him to save the dog's life. So and sometimes 232 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,360 it look at a hold of something very inexpensive. I 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,919 don't know if it's to say, for example, a tennis ball, 234 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,039 and I'll say, oh my god, that was the most 235 00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:17,679 expensive tennis ball you're ever gonna buy. Anyway, stay tuned 236 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:19,799 way back for a second. If you have any comments 237 00:12:19,879 --> 00:12:22,159 or if you've been through this, I would love to 238 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,320 hear about what crazy, crazy things your dog or cat 239 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,799 have gotten into. Eight seven seven three eight five eight 240 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:30,960 eight A two. You're live here with doctor Jeff Way 241 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,159 back in a minute. 242 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: We'll be right back right after these messages. 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AJ, 312 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:32,320 if you're out there, rejoin us on the conversation. 313 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:33,039 Speaker 3: I'm here. 314 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the screen. So if you have a question, 315 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,720 you have a comment, go for it. So uh, anyway, 316 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:40,039 we were talking about our wine, were on our patient, 317 00:16:40,159 --> 00:16:41,960 great thrilled that she's doing well. 318 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,919 Speaker 3: You gotta watch out. 319 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: For everything anything possible that your pet can eat because 320 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,200 they will know. 321 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:47,679 Speaker 3: As I said, it is Murphy's law. 322 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: You know. 323 00:16:48,159 --> 00:16:50,519 Speaker 2: I go through the years of all my dogs and 324 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:54,399 think of the craziest things they've eaten and the things that. 325 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,279 Speaker 3: You you wouldn't even think what would be so appetizing 326 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,039 about that. I mean, we're talking. 327 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: There was a series that one of the veterinary publications 328 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,880 put out about a year ago, and it was an 329 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,160 X ray competition of the craziest things that veterinarians have 330 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:14,799 pulled out of stomachs. And we're talking crazy. I once 331 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:17,079 pulled a straight needle, you know, like so we need 332 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,200 but a long one out of a stomach. I have 333 00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:21,720 a picture of a dog eight and I'm telling you 334 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,799 it's so funny. You can see them clear as day. 335 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,559 Two Double A batteries. Now, why would a dog be 336 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:31,000 eating double A battery? Well, any battery, for we got the 337 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,400 double A, but any battery. I mean, you know, I 338 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,440 can understand dogs wanted to eat things that taste good, 339 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:38,680 you know, jumping on the table getting people food. One 340 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,799 of my labrador bless him, he's fourteen, and I literally 341 00:17:43,319 --> 00:17:44,359 need now that. 342 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: This guy can no longer jump on the bed. 343 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,559 Speaker 2: He can get his front feet up and then we 344 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,480 have to have to get out and pick him up. 345 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:51,880 He still can getting up and downstairs. I mean, I 346 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,079 shouldn't complain for fourteen. He's doing amazingly well. But man, 347 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,720 if he has access to the kitchen, he's learned how 348 00:17:58,759 --> 00:18:03,359 to open drawers and we have to have baby those 349 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,920 stoppers not because of Baby, it's because of the dog. 350 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,039 Speaker 3: And he is impossible. 351 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: And if we forget to you know, put the change 352 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,039 the position, or if I don't barricade the door, he 353 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,599 gets in and he knows where everything is and. 354 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: He is crazy. 355 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: So but I get it because the stuff he goes after, 356 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,720 it's good stuff. 357 00:18:21,039 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 3: It's food. 358 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: It's the cookies, it's a you know, the stuff that 359 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,400 I want to eat him. Sometimes I'm happy he's eating 360 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,400 instead of me. But that I can get. 361 00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: But things like. 362 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: Metallic springs and a blade from a knife, and batteries 363 00:18:33,759 --> 00:18:36,960 and the craziest things they put into the mouse. And 364 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:41,279 why this wine runner was just going after carpet carpet fiber, 365 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:44,319 I have no idea. One of my employees has a 366 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,640 friend who's Doberman. Three times, not once, not twice. Three 367 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,680 times we've had to go in after into this dog's 368 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,200 in Testine to pull out a sock, a large athletic sock. 369 00:18:55,599 --> 00:18:58,240 Now there are two wackos here. Number one is the dog. 370 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,799 But how many times does an owner, having spent a 371 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:05,519 few thousand dollars on surgery hospitalization, to get a sock 372 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,880 out of a dog's intestine and do it not only 373 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,599 again once to let them happen the opportunity to do 374 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:12,920 at the end, but actually twice. 375 00:19:13,079 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 3: So I don't know who's nuttier. 376 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 2: Is it the owner who clearly has not learned his 377 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,680 lesson or the dog who the attraction of going after sock? 378 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:23,559 I don't know, But they do it it's crazy anyway, 379 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:27,000 speaking of things getting where they don't belong, let's get 380 00:19:27,079 --> 00:19:30,880 quickly back to our series. We were talking about sneezing, 381 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:33,480 what causes some of the respiratory things that we've been through, 382 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,960 a lot of the defects, the ciliary defects. 383 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: We had talked about, the elongated soft. 384 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: Palette, this sonaticnaries, and one of the things I wanted 385 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:42,559 to mention there are a few things that we see 386 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,920 more frequently this time of year, interestingly, and that is 387 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,039 the dreaded foxtail. Now, I don't know if you know 388 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:52,880 what foxtails are. They are plant ons. They kind of 389 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,400 look like a fox's tail the way they're shaped. But 390 00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:58,480 what's so unique about the foxtail is it. 391 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,839 Speaker 3: Really can only migrate one way. 392 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: In fact, I do this little trick in my office 393 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,640 where I'll take a foxtail and put it under my 394 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,160 sleeve with the foxtail pointing upward, and yet only half 395 00:20:10,279 --> 00:20:12,720 under my sleeve, and I brush down. I don't if 396 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,279 you can see that, And as I'm brushing down, instead 397 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:18,400 of brushing the thing away, with every brush downward, it's 398 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,880 traveling upward. Why because there are these little microbarbs face 399 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,319 the opposite way, so they spring So when you push 400 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:29,880 down and then let go, they spring up. And I 401 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,039 mean I've literally done this demo with a client and 402 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:36,599 have the foxtail just partly under my sleeve. Brush it away, 403 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:39,519 and I'll find the foxtail up here somewhere. So they go, 404 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:41,720 oh my god, Well, that's what's happening in a dog. 405 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,039 Oftentimes they'll penetrate. One of the areas they like to 406 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:47,079 penetrate are between the digits between the toes, and the 407 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,480 dog obviously wants to get out. 408 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: So what does it do. It licks to try to lick. 409 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,799 Speaker 2: It out, but with every lick downward, the foxtail is 410 00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:56,839 moving upward. We found foxtails in the strangest places. They 411 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:00,559 can travel several inches away from the point of entry, 412 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,720 and one of those places is the nose. So we 413 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:06,200 see them up the behind, We see them inter digitally 414 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,519 between the digits. We see them in the ears, very commonly. 415 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: In the ears. 416 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: We've seen them actually penetrate the ear drum and go 417 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,039 into the middle ear. They are such a nuisance and 418 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,839 you got to be very careful. You should if you 419 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,559 have lived in an area you have a dog that's 420 00:21:19,559 --> 00:21:21,799 got that kind of hair that attracts them. You should 421 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,079 check your dog every single day, after every single walk. 422 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,000 But when they go up the nose, you have a 423 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:31,000 dog that is violently sneezing, not just little sneeze. We're 424 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,279 talking violent sneezing, a dog that oftentimes will get a 425 00:21:34,319 --> 00:21:37,759 bloody nose. They will sometimes paw at their side of 426 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,880 the nose, the side of the face that has the foxtail, 427 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,799 or literally rub their nose against the wall or against 428 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:46,079 the carpet, and they're just sneezing, and it's usually looks 429 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:48,240 more one sided. Often you see a discharge. Sometimes you'll 430 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,160 see blood that is a strong indication of a foxtail 431 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,839 or some type of foreign body up the nose. So 432 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:59,000 they're sneezing and they're sneezing, and when they're sneezing is 433 00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:03,640 usually lateral, one sided, and violent and sometimes with blood 434 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,240 and comes on suddenly. We're not talking a dog to 435 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:07,759 ass start a little bit of sneezing and the next 436 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:10,240 days lot more. Then maybe that's a respiratory infection. We're 437 00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:14,920 talking on a sudden acute onset of violent sneezing, pawning 438 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,599 at the nose, sometimes bleeding. 439 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: You gotta think fox ta. 440 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: And also there are some nasal polyps. There are other 441 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,759 things that will grow in the nose, can be unilateral 442 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,799 that will cause sneezing. And oftentimes these things are you know, 443 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:29,359 when we are going into scope to look for a 444 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,720 foreign body up the nose, that's when we might find 445 00:22:32,279 --> 00:22:36,480 fox tell or a polyp. Also, other forms of respiratory diseases, 446 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,440 believe it or not, will come from heart. So you 447 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:43,440 can have a dog that does not have any problem 448 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,640 with the nose or even the lungs as a primary problem. 449 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,240 But if they develop something called congestive heart failure, that's 450 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:54,759 where the left side of the heart starts to fail. 451 00:22:55,079 --> 00:22:58,519 And where does the blood come from that is being 452 00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:00,480 pumped through the left side of the heart. It just 453 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,039 came from the lungs, It just got arated, it just 454 00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:06,839 picked up its oxygen. So now it comes from the 455 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,000 right side of the body, right pumped, goes into the lungs, 456 00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:13,759 and then from the lungs, the left heart actually starts 457 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:15,920 pumping that blood to the rest of the body. Ah, 458 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,680 So what happens think about it. What happens when the 459 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:21,839 left side of the pump, if you will, stopped working 460 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,160 well so the blood is coming from the right side, 461 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,640 goes through the lungs, and now it's being pumped to 462 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,400 the left side out into the body through the aora. 463 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,000 And so what happens is that there's a backup because 464 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:34,799 not all the blood that just came from the heart 465 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,359 the left from the lung field from the right side. 466 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,680 Since the pump on the left isn't working well, there's 467 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,960 a backup. So where is that backup felt. Well, if 468 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,559 it's a left side heart failure, it's being felt in 469 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,400 the lungs in the sense that there is now back 470 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,480 pressure and fluid blood that was just in the lungs 471 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,279 and supposed to be pumped out, it's going to stay 472 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:58,920 in those microvasculature of the lung field and it's going to. 473 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,559 Speaker 3: Start a backup. 474 00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: It's going to start becoming congested, it's going to start 475 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,599 becoming wet, and that's why we call it congestive heart failure. 476 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,279 And these animals are gonna have a tough time breathing 477 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,359 because the lungs are getting moist, there's too much fluid 478 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:17,599 going through. There's a backup. It's not being circulated properly 479 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,039 because the left side of the heart is no longer 480 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:23,160 working well. So when we have the more common mitral 481 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:27,440 valve disease causing a murmur and left heart failure, where 482 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,799 we're going to see it over time, the big problem, 483 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,359 the fluid build up is going to be in the 484 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,880 lungs and that's causing a big respiratory problem where in 485 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,440 fact had nothing to do with the actual lung field stuff. 486 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,200 The lungs are working fine, but they're being destroyed and 487 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,279 compromised because of the bad heart. So that will take 488 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,079 us through a lot of the common respiratory infections that 489 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,160 we see. And oh one other there is something that 490 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,759 we see a lot, and you know, it's interesting because 491 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:58,119 it is something that freaks our pet owners out, but 492 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,400 it's not dangerous at all. It's called reverse sneezing. I'm 493 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,920 a very very good reverse sneezer. So the way it 494 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,400 works is this. You'll see like a and the dog 495 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,839 will extend its neck out and it's like it's sucking 496 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,599 in this air. And it freaks people out because they 497 00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:19,160 think the dog can't breathe. They think the dog is 498 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000 starting to suffocate, and it's not that at all. 499 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 3: It is just a reverse. 500 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,039 Speaker 2: Knees instead of going and then the snort out. It's 501 00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,359 the snort in and the easy breathe out. 502 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 3: So it's. 503 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:35,759 Speaker 2: And they as you said, they extend their necks. They 504 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:39,079 look like they're in major distress, but they're not. And 505 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,079 one of the things I've tried, you can try to 506 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,160 calm them down. Pat them on the back. 507 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:42,319 Speaker 3: Tom. 508 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: It's okay what I've tried to do. I know it's 509 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,799 kind of weird, but so am is you give them 510 00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:50,559 a really firm blow right up the nose and that 511 00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:54,559 could reverse the reverse knees and get it back to normal. Anyway, 512 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,599 Thanks for running here in pet Life Radio. That time 513 00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:59,200 has come to say goodbye. I am leaving Wednesday for 514 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,720 Bangkok for the World Small and Veternini Association. Once again, 515 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,880 we want to thank our sponsors pro Sens pet Products, 516 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,000 cong veter Night Products, and if you have any questions comments, 517 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,880 please send them to me a DRJF Doctor Jeff at 518 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,640 Petlife Radio dot com. Great to have you join me 519 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,920 and we will see you in two weeks. 520 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: Bye bye. 521 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on Petlife 522 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:32,839 Radio dot com.