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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Hello, and welcome to March nineteenth, twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>You are watching FFPC Insider Access. My name is Eric Balkman.

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<v Speaker 1>You can connect with me on x at Eric Balkman.

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<v Speaker 2>You know me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know me from the High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>Extra Reps, the roada Is, High Stakes Lowdown, and of

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<v Speaker 1>two full hours of NonStop fantasy football goodness with a

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<v Speaker 1>heavy emphasis one the rookie class because we got an

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<v Speaker 1>expert on it tonight, so it's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun, especially in the second hour before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Before I bring him on, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>remind everybody too, if you are looking to parlay some

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<v Speaker 1>of the advice and some of the thoughts player of

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<v Speaker 1>Especially for you Dynasty players or if you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>getting into Dynasty Fantasy football, now's a really good time

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. We have a lot of orphans listed

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<v Speaker 1>of those are down to one dollar right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're basically managing the team for free the first year

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to get it into greatness. So check that

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<v Speaker 1>out my ffpc dot com for all the Dynasty orphans

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<v Speaker 1>we have available. We also have a pair of Bestball tournaments,

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<v Speaker 1>Too Early Superflex Bestball Tournament, both live right now. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>five bucks to get into the super Flex version as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Big Gorilla is back a million dollar grand prize,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty dollars entry fee. Seven Bananas promo

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<v Speaker 1>is live. The Early Rampage Promotion is live. I want

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out to and I forgot who was Paul

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<v Speaker 1>de Siegmann. I want to say, pointed that out on

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<v Speaker 1>X that I was pronouncing rampage wrong. I kept calling

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<v Speaker 1>it rampage. It is rampage. The Early Rampage Tournament going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now, So it's two tournaments for the price

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<v Speaker 1>of one entry fee if you enter the Big Gorilla

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<v Speaker 1>now you're automatically in the Early Rampage tournament as well,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty five bucks to enter the Baby

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<v Speaker 1>Gorilla and one hundred thousand dollars grand prize there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you can manage all those teams from the FFPC app.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also purchase, load your account, register for leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>perform waivers. Whatever you want to do, you can all

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<v Speaker 1>do it from the comfort of your phone on the app,

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<v Speaker 1>the mobile app, without further ado, Ladies and gentlemen, let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring in our guests tonight. You know him, you love him.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft expert. He's probably got a seven round mock

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<v Speaker 1>point somewhere listed on the internet right now for like

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty forty two NFL Draft. That'd be my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's just on twenty forty one. He loves the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows the prospects, and he's here to share some

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge with us tonight. Longtime FFPC player and even longer

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<v Speaker 1>time NFL draft guru, You know him on X Shane P. Hallum,

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<v Speaker 1>the Hammer himself, Please welcome in from Draft Sharks. Shane Hallam, Shane.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, sir, good evening. It's nice to be back

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<v Speaker 2>with you. Eric. I feel like once a year we

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<v Speaker 2>get to kind of cut it up here before the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL Draft, and I'm excited to talk rookies and talk

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<v Speaker 2>all the goings on. Always a blast with you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I did something a little bit different for your appearance

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<v Speaker 1>this year, at least on my end. So normally I

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<v Speaker 1>like to immerse myself in everything that you're putting out

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<v Speaker 1>there via x or via draft Sharks. I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stayed away from it so far this year because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like if I consume all that you kindt you

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<v Speaker 1>have this way of persuading me. Because I'm easily persuaded.

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<v Speaker 1>You have this way of persuading me. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go in. I'm gonna set these questions up cold. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna you know, we're gonna do everything cold. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the veterans here in the first hour, but

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<v Speaker 1>the second hour I'm gonna offer my opinions on these

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<v Speaker 1>guys and hopefully we get some good disc going in.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather than saying, Shane, you're a genius, I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. You're the man. So I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>in fresh and clean on this. We're gonna try it

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I don't know if it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>any better, but we'll see. So that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun before we get going at Shane P.

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<v Speaker 1>Hallum on X, what are you focusing on right now

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<v Speaker 1>over at Draft Sharks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we just launched our Rookie Guide, so we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>doing an update to it at the beginning of April,

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<v Speaker 2>expanding from fifty skill position players to seventy five on

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<v Speaker 2>our big board, both for superflex and for one quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>We have profiles on every player in there, comps for

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<v Speaker 2>every player in there. So yeah, I'm working on today

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<v Speaker 2>was Fernanda Mendoza. We're going to do a full article

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<v Speaker 2>for him next week on Draft Sharks. But yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>get getting the rookie guy gets set, getting everything set

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<v Speaker 2>for these rookies. And I started diving into some film

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<v Speaker 2>on the backup Wyoming running back who ran like a

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<v Speaker 2>four to four at his pro day. So trying to

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<v Speaker 2>dig deep, and I'll probably have I've watched over five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and six hundred skilled players by the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane. And I should ask you this too, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was joking about you already having a seven round

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<v Speaker 1>twenty forty two MOC and maybe that's not a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you might already have that. I don't know. At

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<v Speaker 1>what point did you start kind of delving into this

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<v Speaker 1>year's crop of rookies. Was it already prior to last

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<v Speaker 1>college football season?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, yeah, I mean I think I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six mock. I usually do two years in advance,

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a twenty twenty eight MOC in May

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, for that draft. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in debbie leagues, some very deep DeBie leagues. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>drafted some of these players in high school. I drafted

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Nicholas Singleton, the running back from Penn State, when

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<v Speaker 2>he was a sophomore in high school. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched some of these players since they were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>before they could drive. Even I've watched some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>The The other thing I wanted to ask you because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, and I was taking talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>in the High Stakes Fantasy Footballer last night, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>narrative out there that people should be selling their twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six rookie draft picks and trying to collect twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven picks. Most of the people would say that

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty seven draft is better, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they know it. Most people, I don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>know the twenty twenty seven class as good as you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You play dynasty, Is that a practice that you would

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<v Speaker 1>encourage people to do right now, which try is try

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of your first round twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>picks and try to get twenty twenty seven first rounders.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a legitimate strategy one DEVI league or

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<v Speaker 2>one Dynasty league that I'm in. Unfortunately, on the FFPC, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I plan to do some startups this year and try this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have ten of the twelve twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven first so I'm going to make a run for

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<v Speaker 2>the other two. And I think I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 2>a couple f FPC startups and do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>In the startup just move down, move down, click twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven firsts, because I do think that class is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be excellent, even if you have some guys

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<v Speaker 2>go back to school, even if you have some guys

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<v Speaker 2>drop off. You know, this twenty twenty six class I've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of been preaching for a while it's not as strong,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think some of the you know, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Some of the receivers came through, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still not as impressed as I want to be, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I want to kind of buy in, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't at this point. And you know, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it was because hey, the quarterbacks went back to

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<v Speaker 2>school and maybe had some extra guys go back to school.

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<v Speaker 2>That means twenty twenty seven is going to be better.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think you have to just sell them

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<v Speaker 2>off for nothing. But you know, we have it reflected

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<v Speaker 2>on Draft Sharks on our trade value chart for Dynasty

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<v Speaker 2>that twenty twenty seven first is is more valuable than

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the one O eight or one O nine

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<v Speaker 2>and one quarterback this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's interesting. That's good to know. I have one

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<v Speaker 1>of my leagues. I was actually super pumped last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I know nobody cares about your fantasy league, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna share it anyway because it's my show. Next year,

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<v Speaker 1>during rookie draft time, I ended up parlaying some extra

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<v Speaker 1>tight end depth I had in order to acquire Colston

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<v Speaker 1>Loveland and a twenty twenty six first rounder. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was and it turned out to be the one of six.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like love and life. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>more I looked at this class, I'm like, geez, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is not the gold mine that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be when I acquired that pick. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I got to focus on trying to see what

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<v Speaker 1>I can do for twenty twenty seven. That'll be the

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<v Speaker 1>goal and we'll see what happens with that. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit a month or so to go until

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Draft, when we know where these players are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be playing football in the NFL this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So coming up on tonight show, like I said at

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<v Speaker 1>the top, Shane and I are going to go around

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL in the first segment. Second segment that will

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<v Speaker 1>bring up will be a rookie pass catcher analysis from

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<v Speaker 1>Shane Hallen. We'll get into the big three at wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to talk about Casey Concepcion. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the Indiana guys. We'll get into Chris Brazil as well, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the two big tight ends. I want to get changed

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on those guys. And then the final segment we

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<v Speaker 1>will look to the backfield, the running backs. Obviously, Jeremiah Love,

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<v Speaker 1>But who's the number two? Is it? Jonah Coleman is

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<v Speaker 1>a jendarian, Price, Emma Johnson, Mike Washington. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>all those players, and then obviously Mendoza and Ty Simpson

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<v Speaker 1>will touch on too as well. As long as I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ramble too much and we leave enough time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk quarterbacks on this program without further ado, Shane, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's going on in the NFL. And my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what a massive, massive deal that we saw earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>week that kind of, quite frankly, came out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>when you consider that the Miami Dolphins had said they

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<v Speaker 1>were not looking to trade Jalen Waddle, and yet that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they did. Diana Rassini reported it that Denver

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<v Speaker 1>acquired Jalen Waddle in exchange for twenty twenty six first

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<v Speaker 1>third and a fourth round draft pick swap. The Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>now have a receiver room that's really bereft of any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of talent. With apologies to two two at Well

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<v Speaker 1>and Malik Washington, but let's talk about the Denver side.

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<v Speaker 1>First twenty two catches sixteen hundred yards over the past

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<v Speaker 1>two years for Wattle, who's obviously spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time in the training room. But now he joins a

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<v Speaker 1>team that was fourth in the NFL and pass attempts

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<v Speaker 1>eleventh in the league in passing yards last year. And

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really think of Denver as this team that's

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<v Speaker 1>slinging the ball all over the field, but they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of were last year despite really only having Courtland Sutton

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<v Speaker 1>and then the you know, the rotating number two turnstile

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<v Speaker 1>of Marvin Mims, Pat Bryant, and Troy Franklin in no

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<v Speaker 1>particular order. This is this is huge for Wattle, This

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<v Speaker 1>is huge for the Broncos. This is really big for

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<v Speaker 1>bo Nicks. What's the impact. What do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Waddle's prospects now compared to what you were thinking

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm excited for it. For Jaylen Wattle. I've

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<v Speaker 2>in college, and I feel like he's always been underrated,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely in real NFL terms, even in fantasy terms. Even

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<v Speaker 2>when he's disappointed, it hasn't been as bad as it's

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<v Speaker 2>else because his talent is so good. Miami, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the one year when that offense was really humming,

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't do much. I'm really interested in his fit

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<v Speaker 2>in Sean Payton's system because because this is a system

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<v Speaker 2>that typically you have your ex receiver, who is Courtland

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<v Speaker 2>Sutton we saw last year doesn't leave the field as

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<v Speaker 2>the number one guy, and then Peyton has always kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rotated the other receivers, like you talked about, he

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<v Speaker 2>had that rotating, you know, Mims be in for a play,

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin to be in for a little bit. Injuries maybe

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<v Speaker 2>forced you know, guys like Franklin and Pap Briant to

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<v Speaker 2>play a little bit more. And I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>could take Jamealen Wattle off the field, especially after that

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<v Speaker 2>compensation and the contract. So to me, this is good

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<v Speaker 2>news even if Watta wasn't the quote unquote number one

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<v Speaker 2>guy in Peyton's system and how he likes to work it.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw Troy Franklin break out in a couple of games.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jaylen Watta could have done that to the extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited. I have a plenty of Dynasty teams

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<v Speaker 2>of Jamelen Watta. I think this is you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not best case scenario where he could have gone. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's much better than what was gonna be the tanking

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins with Malik Willist just running around at quarterback back there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Q, all the memes of the dolphins swimming around

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<v Speaker 1>in the big fish tank, right, because that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see on X for sure going forward. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask about Courtland Sutton here. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it does now that Wattle is alongside Sutton. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you know, it'd be different chain if these

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<v Speaker 1>guys kind of did the same things, that did the

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<v Speaker 1>same had the same skill set. But I think they

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<v Speaker 1>compliment each other really well. You get the big body,

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<v Speaker 1>possession guy that's a threat in the red zone and

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone with Sutton, and then you get a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who not only could catch the stuff over the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>do the intermediate stuff, but he's got the speed to

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<v Speaker 1>combination here with these two. That said, Sutton did not

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<v Speaker 1>play next to a guy that's going to command as

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<v Speaker 1>many targets as Wattle will this year, so it has

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt him in a certain regard. How have you

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<v Speaker 1>changed what you thought about Sutton as far as what

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<v Speaker 1>his production's going to look like. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't super high coming into the year, just another

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<v Speaker 2>year older, and even not having Jayla Wattle there, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like that rotation of receivers, you know, Pat Brian

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<v Speaker 2>takes a step forward or Franklin takes a step forward,

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<v Speaker 2>I think was gonna hurt someton anyway. So the plays

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<v Speaker 2>aren't gonna be different. I don't think the reads are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be different. Like, I don't think Sutton's role

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<v Speaker 2>in this offense changes one bit. Like you said, they

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<v Speaker 2>compliment each other. Well, what I think it does for

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<v Speaker 2>Wattle that really helps him. I mean, if you watch

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<v Speaker 2>the film and I two years ago so it would

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<v Speaker 2>have been the twenty four season had a big film

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<v Speaker 2>article and draft sharks about Jayla Wattle and just his

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<v Speaker 2>role in the Micro Daniel offense was like doing the

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<v Speaker 2>hard stuff. They were setting him down the field and

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<v Speaker 2>making them run all these routes, and Tyreek Hill was

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<v Speaker 2>the slot guy doing the easy stuff getting easy catches.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's like Sean Payton's gonna Sutton's gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>the hard stuff and this offense and Jayla Wattle is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna finally for the first time in his career. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, get to do some of the slot and

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<v Speaker 2>easy work to just get them easy targets. So I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know someting maybe it hurts the target share for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I don't I wasn't super high on

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<v Speaker 2>Courtland Sutton coming into the year to begin with Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were in a twenty man FFPC style league,

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<v Speaker 1>where and maybe this is redraft. You know, you could

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a redraft or dynasty and maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 1>different answer for either of them. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you expound on it. Is there a third

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver on this team that you would want at

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<v Speaker 1>the back end of your roster or are all those

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<v Speaker 1>guys nobody sets themselves apart and you're spending your final

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<v Speaker 1>few roster spots on other receivers other than Pat Bryant,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually, like you know, from a redraft perspective, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>interested to see where the ADPs kind of settle for them.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's super low, then I start getting interested because,

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<v Speaker 2>like you talked about, I mean, Waddells certainly had his

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<v Speaker 2>injury issues. I do think we saw enough of Troy

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<v Speaker 2>Franklin to say, this is the player that can have

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<v Speaker 2>a spike game. So we're talking best ball, then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to take a shot on Franklin to

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<v Speaker 2>fill in that role. I think Pat Bryant, you know

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<v Speaker 2>they drafted in top one hundred last year, is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the backup to Courtland Sutton, right, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you start looking at number three, number

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<v Speaker 2>four receivers on teams. You gave the stats of the

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<v Speaker 2>passing numbers for Denver last year, I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of underrated. People don't expect this to be a

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<v Speaker 2>passing volume team, but an injury to one of those

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<v Speaker 2>top two I think Bryant and Franklin I like sticking

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<v Speaker 2>on the end of rosters, and I'll certainly hold maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even trade for in Dynasty if the price gets super cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>I can, you know, move a third round rookie pick

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<v Speaker 2>for one of those guys, A guy who was I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think mostly a first round back then in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>early second round rookie pick last year. Who's been in

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<v Speaker 1>the news is Cam Scattabout On the Rich Eisen Show

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<v Speaker 1>this past week, Shane, he said he's fully back to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent or he will be fully back to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent in just over a month, so he

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<v Speaker 1>should be participating in OTAs he said. This past Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>is when he finally started resuming running after that nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>nasty ankle injury last year. He said his speed is

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<v Speaker 1>at about seventy five percent as of you know, mid

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<v Speaker 1>March is what we're looking at right now. He has

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<v Speaker 1>not really exploded when he's been running yet, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>focusing on jogging. He's focusing on striding right now, which

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is kind of what you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>and you're coming off a serious ankle injury. Here's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do. I want to pick your brain

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<v Speaker 1>on whether I'm reading too much inside the lines. Cam

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<v Speaker 1>Scataboo and Tyrone Tracy were a pretty good tandem last year.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Skataboo looked like he was a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>like potential bellcop on this team last year for a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. Then he gets hurt, and yet we hear

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<v Speaker 1>that the Giants are poking around the Kenneth Walker market

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<v Speaker 1>before he ultimately signed with the Chiefs, which caught me

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<v Speaker 1>off guard. And now I'm hearing, not hearing, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>an insider, but I'm reading other people who are insiders

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<v Speaker 1>and hearing from them that they might be in the

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah Love business at the number five pick. Now, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Love doesn't get picked there by the Giants, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>obviously Walker is going to be in Kansas City. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that not only is are the Giants looking

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<v Speaker 1>to free agency as well as the draft to potentially

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<v Speaker 1>get a big time running back. Does this give you

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<v Speaker 1>pause on how the recovery? How you think the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>are treating this recovery and maybe it's not going as

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<v Speaker 1>well as we perhaps wanted to and that's why there

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<v Speaker 1>in the market here. Or is this simply the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>doing their due diligence, doing some homework and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>add talented players onto their offense. I haven't made up

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<v Speaker 1>my mind on this, but I am skeptical about this

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<v Speaker 1>Scatabow injury.

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<v Speaker 2>As a result, I think you got to be concerned

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<v Speaker 2>and things kind of pile up here. Matt Schalf, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my coworkover at Draft Sharks had a really great article

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<v Speaker 2>last year highlighting how these third day running backs, fourth round,

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<v Speaker 2>fifth round picks that kind of break out as rookies

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<v Speaker 2>like Scataboo did, like we s solid Tyron, Tracy, Bucky

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<v Speaker 2>Irving two years ago, how they almost always disappoint year two.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw with Tracy, we saw with Bucky Irving. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>it just happened last year, and I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>Skataboo was already at that point where it's like we

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<v Speaker 2>should be skeptical as fantasy players. I think one thing

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<v Speaker 2>we underrate as fantasy players is that coaching change and

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<v Speaker 2>the power structure of NFL teams. John Harbaugh's now in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>He has personnel decisions. He has no tie to camp Scattaboo.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to walk into a guy that is had

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<v Speaker 2>a major, you know, leg injury. Maybe camp Scattaboo gets

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<v Speaker 2>up to up the stuff. He has no ties to

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<v Speaker 2>either of these players. So we may have looked at

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<v Speaker 2>Scatum and so, wow, this guy's good. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>combo was great, and John Harbaugh is going to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and say, when we've really had an dynamic offense

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<v Speaker 2>in Baltimore, we had Derrick Henry. I want Derrick Henry,

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<v Speaker 2>right like, I want that kind of player, And that

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be the way. And I think looking at

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<v Speaker 2>how these free agent contracts lined up. You mentioned Walker

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<v Speaker 2>to the Chiefs, Travis Etn signs with the Saints. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks to me like those are two teams that were

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<v Speaker 2>in that Jeremiah Love market that signed big time running

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<v Speaker 2>backs because they knew Jeremiah Love wasn't gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 2>So that to me, that says he's going four to

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans or five to the Giants. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's where he's gonna go, maybe worst case to the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh, you know, I think we really is time

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<v Speaker 2>and dynasty to try to move scat of it before

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<v Speaker 2>something happens. There's so many possibilities of bad things that

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<v Speaker 2>can happen. Report that he's set back with the injury,

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<v Speaker 2>or they draft Love, or they draft a running back

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<v Speaker 2>even Day two or even another fourth round run. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>any of that, he's gonna lose value. You almost have

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<v Speaker 2>take Scatubu and redraft until we know what this situation

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<v Speaker 1>If I was to ask you to put it on

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<v Speaker 1>If I narrow it down to the three teams you

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<v Speaker 1>the percentage chance is in your mind that he ends

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<v Speaker 1>up with, you know, each of those teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say I'll leave. Let's say I'll say thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent Titans, thirty percent Giants, and let's say twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe twenty percent Commanders will leave twenty percent for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to trade up, something.

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<v Speaker 1>Else to happen, right, Yeah, I thought it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>when eight Chan went to the Saints, when you had

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00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the commanders kind of didn't do anything, but

417
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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, they just started collecting all

418
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<v Speaker 1>these running backs with you know, Jerome Ford, Rashad White,

419
00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like there's another one I'm missing. I

420
00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:40.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like they got like three or four guys in

421
00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.279
<v Speaker 1>there right now, which to me, and they let Chris

422
00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez go too, So to me, that was kind of

423
00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:48.440
<v Speaker 1>like the commanders. I think can see the writing on

424
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<v Speaker 1>the wall a little bit as well, that Listen Love

425
00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>is probably going for. I thought I was saying Titans

426
00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this whole time, but now with this Giant stuff, I

427
00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know, maybe there's a decent chance that the Giants

428
00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:02.759
<v Speaker 1>take him there, And you know what better way to

429
00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.720
<v Speaker 1>have your offense going in the right direction with Likely

430
00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and Theo Johnson at tight end, with Malik Neighbors on

431
00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:15.079
<v Speaker 1>the perimeter, with Jackson Dart under center, and with Jeremiah

432
00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Love and your backfield, if you can make it happen. Now,

433
00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the next thing I want to lead into on this

434
00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is Malik Neighbors. Here's how I want to frame it.

435
00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Darnell Mooney signs a one year, ten million dollar deal

436
00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>with the Giants. They also signed Calvin Austin. They also

437
00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.400
<v Speaker 1>they let Wandelle Robinson go to the Titans, but they

438
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:36.799
<v Speaker 1>also extended Darius Slayton to keep him under contract for

439
00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:40.559
<v Speaker 1>another two years. Now, I know they need pass catchers, right,

440
00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.880
<v Speaker 1>which makes perfect sense that you would add these guys.

441
00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>But the skeptic in me also wonders, we're not hearing

442
00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>super positive praise and reporting coming out about Malik neighbors

443
00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:58.359
<v Speaker 1>knee injury recovery. I'm a little bit nervous about that.

444
00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:00.559
<v Speaker 1>And then when I see the Giants in all these

445
00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.079
<v Speaker 1>pass catchers, including Isaiah Likely, my spider sense kind of

446
00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:06.400
<v Speaker 1>goes up a little bit and Shane. I don't know

447
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>if this is something where you take ninety cents on

448
00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the dollar for neighbors, but definitely in redraft leagues. I'm

449
00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of thinking, you know, with all the talent where

450
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.680
<v Speaker 1>neighbors is going in drafts right now, maybe I'm better

451
00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>off picking somebody else. I think Matt Schoff was actually

452
00:22:19.319 --> 00:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about this on the last Draft Sharks podcast, where like,

453
00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.799
<v Speaker 1>it kind of makes sense to it, kind of makes

454
00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.440
<v Speaker 1>sense to fade neighbors a little bit, and Jared Smaller

455
00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:33.279
<v Speaker 1>might have been saying the same thing, makes sense to

456
00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.240
<v Speaker 1>fade neighbors a little bit considering where he's going and

457
00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>who else is going around him in redraft leagues because

458
00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:41.359
<v Speaker 1>we just don't know about this, and it's been very

459
00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:44.839
<v Speaker 1>nebulous stuff, you know, reporting from the Giants beat writers

460
00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:47.759
<v Speaker 1>coming out or lack of reporting coming out from Giants

461
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.359
<v Speaker 1>beat writers about how this recovery is going for neighbors.

462
00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, I'm getting a little bit nervous

463
00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:53.799
<v Speaker 1>about neighbors for twenty twenty six.

464
00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm nervous too. I'm with Matt, and there's no reason

465
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.559
<v Speaker 2>to take that risk with where the ADP's at right

466
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:06.160
<v Speaker 2>now and draft Sharks. We have the league Neighbors wide

467
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:10.039
<v Speaker 2>receiver thirteen in PPR and he's going top ten. Still,

468
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:14.200
<v Speaker 2>just the players around him that Drake London's, the Nico

469
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Collins just feel like they have similar upsides with not

470
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>the long term injury downside that could be happening to Neighbors.

471
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:25.839
<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't make sense until, you know, until we

472
00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 2>have maybe another report and that ADP drops more. You know,

473
00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.599
<v Speaker 2>But like this, this offense for the Giants to me,

474
00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:37.519
<v Speaker 2>looks like Harbaugh's offense in Baltimore. Right, you got the

475
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.359
<v Speaker 2>one receiver. If they draft an elite running back, they

476
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.119
<v Speaker 2>have the rushing quarterback, and then a bunch of you know,

477
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:46.799
<v Speaker 2>pieces like Mooney and Austin Slayton, deep guys and kind

478
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:50.400
<v Speaker 2>of you know, these these guys on the on the periphery.

479
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But it wouldn't surprise me. There's just no reason to

480
00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:58.880
<v Speaker 2>rush Neighbors back if there's any issue. I'm not touching

481
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:00.359
<v Speaker 2>him in redraft at this moment.

482
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm not saying I'm totally often because there's

483
00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.319
<v Speaker 1>a chance that he could come down to a price

484
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:10.200
<v Speaker 1>where I'm comfortable taking a chance because of the upside.

485
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.079
<v Speaker 1>But right now, as I look at Fantasymojo dot com.

486
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Darren URMANI who puts together the processus Joe's competition every year.

487
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:19.039
<v Speaker 1>This is his website at Fantasy Mojo on x. If

488
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<v Speaker 1>you're playing in the FFPC, not only should you have

489
00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 1>a Draft Shark subscription, should have a subscription of Fantasy

490
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Mojo as well. As I look at the Never Too

491
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Early Best Ball Tournament ADP, Neighbors has fallen Shane. He's

492
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:32.960
<v Speaker 1>going at the two ten right now. This is over

493
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 1>the course of the last week for the ADP that

494
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:39.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at, so more than a half dozen drafts

495
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:42.880
<v Speaker 1>here in the books. Neighbors Wide Receiver eight, he's fallen

496
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>behind Ceedee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, and Drake London. He is

497
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:50.640
<v Speaker 1>still going ahead of Nico Collins, George Pickens, Rashie Rice,

498
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and Chris o'lobby, and quite frankly, there's some warts on

499
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>all four of those guys as well. But I do

500
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.279
<v Speaker 1>think that that's we're getting sorted to an area right

501
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>now where I still think I'm I'm picking those other guys,

502
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but I think you can make a much stronger case

503
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.799
<v Speaker 1>for taking Neighbors over those four rather than Neighbors over

504
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:08.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, London Lamb and whoever.

505
00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>The other one is justin Jefferson. Yeah, yeah, he's.

506
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Calling a little bit not quite there yet.

507
00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>For me though, No, not quite there yet. I'm with you.

508
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I would take Pickens, Rice Lave, maybe even bet On

509
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 2>an AJ Brown and just the upside of a new

510
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>situation for him over neighbors, you know, factoring in that risk.

511
00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I think the ceiling for neighbors is a top five

512
00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>receiver in the league. But there's no reason to take

513
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>that chance, especially on an offense that I don't think

514
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>the Giants are gonna suddenly turn into a top five

515
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.319
<v Speaker 2>NFL passing you know, fantasy passing game. I don't think

516
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna happen. So there's still enough downside for me

517
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:46.880
<v Speaker 2>to take those other players.

518
00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.519
<v Speaker 1>If I were to ask you, well, let's let's do this.

519
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Let's see how far you'd fade them. You tell me,

520
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm just gonna go right down the ADP

521
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>list here. Tell me if you take neighbors over these guys,

522
00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Teoroa McMillan, neighbors are McMullen.

523
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I'd take neighbors.

524
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Neighbors. We already talked about a J. Brown neighbors or

525
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:05.519
<v Speaker 1>T Higgins.

526
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 2>That's close. I lean T Higgins, but it's it's neck and.

527
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Neck for me, and then neighbors. Garrett Wilson, I'll.

528
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Take neighbors over whatever the Jets are thrown on the field.

529
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we get into the McCarthy's, the Flowers and the Davanta's.

530
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Smith is is actually interesting. I don't think I'd

531
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>do it, because you could. You could get Neighbors and

532
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Smith if you wanted. But the great thing about drafting

533
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Smith right now, and I've been saying this the last

534
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>few weeks, the great thing about drafting him is if

535
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you draft him in the fifth round, which is where

536
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he's going in the Never Too Early Best Ball Tournament

537
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver nineteen, great, he's gonna pay that off.

538
00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>But if Brown gets moved and the Eagles sign, you know,

539
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a lesser player to take his place, and are trotting

540
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>out a three wide receiver set of DeVonta Smith, whatever

541
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>receiver they're gonna get, you know, like Diggs or Juwan

542
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Jennings or somebody like that, and then Hollywood, all of

543
00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, Smith looks a lot better than a fifth

544
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.039
<v Speaker 1>round pick. So that's a great thing about drafting Devon

545
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to Smith right now, all right, I want to move

546
00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>on here, unless you had another point.

547
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I know we're good.

548
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's go down to Tampa, Shane, because Tampa has had

549
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of busy little bees going on in their backfield.

550
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 1>They let Rashon White go, who ultimately signed with Washington.

551
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Kenneth Gainwell is now a part of the team, and

552
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 1>they also chose to bring back Sean Tucker after it

553
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>was reported earlier that they weren't going to tender him.

554
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 1>They ended up tendering him, so he's part of that

555
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>backfield as well. Gainwell gets a two year, fourteen million

556
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 1>dollar contract. This is coming off a year where he

557
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 1>caught seventy plus passes for just under five hundred yards

558
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and got in the end zone three times via the

559
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>air as well. I look at Gainwell and what he

560
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>does in the passing game, and I can't help but

561
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>think that that is a hit to Bucky Irving. I

562
00:27:57.880 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>look at and you could probably tell me a little

563
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 1>bit better the prospect that Sean Tucker would have been

564
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>had they not found this heart condition or whatever at

565
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 1>the combine when he went undrafted. This is a player

566
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 1>that had the chops coming out of Syracuse if I

567
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.559
<v Speaker 1>remember correctly, and now he's in the backfield. All this considered,

568
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is not really Bucky Irving's doing, but

569
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>because of what they have in the backfield and the

570
00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 1>fact that they're paying game well seven million a year now,

571
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man like for what you have to

572
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:31.759
<v Speaker 1>pay to get Bucky Irving. I'm looking up his ADP

573
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>right now. He is going as running back. He's falling

574
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 1>the running back eighteen. So he's in the fourth round.

575
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's a little bit more patable palatable. He's

576
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>actually going right ahead of Skataboo right now. But I'm

577
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit down on Irving, maybe not as much

578
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>as I thought I was now that he's a fourth

579
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 1>round pick. But I don't know what your take is

580
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 1>on this backfield, specifically the impact of Gainwell and Tucker

581
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>on Bucky Irving this year.

582
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because Bucky Irving, if you look at some

583
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 2>of the advanced receivers metrics, was actually pretty efficient as

584
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 2>a receiver, did well as a receiver, and so to

585
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>add a guy like Kenneth Gainwell, who you know, when

586
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 2>he was in Philly, Kenneth Ganell was a prospect. I

587
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, this is a really good pass catching running back,

588
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.599
<v Speaker 2>and then Philly drafts him. They don't use him in

589
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the passing game whatsoever, and I'm like, oh, that's a problem.

590
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Right Then last year we see maybe what the upside is.

591
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's as bad of a pass catcher

592
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:25.559
<v Speaker 2>as he was in Philly. I don't think he's as

593
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>good as we saw in Pittsburgh. But I do like

594
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Gainwell in that Rashad White role. And I think Gainwell

595
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 2>is a better rusher than Rashad White was, So you

596
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.319
<v Speaker 2>have more leeway to have Gainwell on the field, you know,

597
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>be a pass blocker, be able to take some carries,

598
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 2>be able to take some of these catches. So I agree.

599
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>I think for me, Bucky Irving RB eighteen is fine.

600
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>Probably maybe I still probably wouldn't take him. There is

601
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 2>still probably some running backs that I you know, I'll

602
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>take the DeAndre Swifts and Karen Williams and Javonte's those

603
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of guys over Bucky. But it's probably around the wheelhouse.

604
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>You just can't expect a Bell Cow role. I'm not

605
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 2>a Sean Tucker guy. I got cut a lot of

606
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 2>flak last year after his big game. I put out

607
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.720
<v Speaker 2>an article on Draft Sharks going over his film, and

608
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 2>you know just that he really wasn't as great as

609
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the numbers indicated. But you know he's still gonna get

610
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 2>on the field. He's talented enough, like you said, having

611
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 2>that the hard issue coming out of college made him

612
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>fall in the draft. He probably would have been around

613
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>for pick had he not had that issue, maybe snuck

614
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>in around three. I certainly had some of the explosive tendencies,

615
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>has some of the acceleration that works for him when

616
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 2>the blocking's there. He's gonna get on the field too.

617
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>And I think we're seeing a lot of run games

618
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 2>that are gonna be kind of three different players, and

619
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>that you know that hurts everyone. It hurts us for fantasy.

620
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Bucky a little down on him. I think

621
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<v Speaker 2>Gainwell I'm interested to see where he kind of settles.

622
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<v Speaker 2>He might be the one that's worth targeting in this

623
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<v Speaker 2>backfield for the value.

624
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<v Speaker 1>So I'll just tell you right now, as far as

625
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>Gainwell's value goes in the Never Too Early Best Ball Tournament,

626
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at Kenneth Gainwell as a Oh why can

627
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I find him. Here we go running back thirty six

628
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>at the nine to ten turn. This is Blake Krum JK. Dobbins,

629
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>joan of Coleman Territory. That's where Gainwell's going, curiously. One

630
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>final point on Irving going not right underneath him, but

631
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 1>fairly close to him. Both of the Ohio State rookies

632
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>from last year, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, Trevian Henderson. Would you

633
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>take either of those guys over Irving right now, Shane.

634
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I think I think it's close. I think

635
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the upside of Henderson is probably higher than Bucky Irving,

636
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>but just the reminder Stevenson effect we saw late in

637
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the year, I think the downside is too much for me.

638
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I think Judkins on with a revamped worst offensive line

639
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 2>that just doesn't interest me as he's not catching passes.

640
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I think at least Irving will have a little bit

641
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 2>of an effect there. But I'll take Irving over those two.

642
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to move on and talk about Romeo Dobbs,

643
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:05.759
<v Speaker 1>who inked a four year, seventy million dollars deal with

644
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the defending AFC champion New England Patriots. Chad Graff, who

645
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 1>covers the Patriots for the Athletics stated that he's largely

646
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>going to take over the role that Stefan Diggs played

647
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.079
<v Speaker 1>last year for this Patriots team. Diggs didley in New

648
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 1>England in target share last year with twenty percent, did

649
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>get over a thousand yards receiving, and he got into

650
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 1>the end zone four times. Graft said, quote, Dobbs can

651
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>play on the outside. He can make up for a

652
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of the production over the middle that Stefan Diggs

653
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.559
<v Speaker 1>brought last season. He should help the offense's red zone woes.

654
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 1>He can pull down deep balls, which may thrives at now.

655
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>If you go back to last season when Dobbs was

656
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>with the Packers, five N zone targets, seventeen inside the

657
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty targets, I do remember, as a Packers fan, a

658
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Packers honk, that he was a guy that Jordan Love

659
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 1>looked to quite a bit inside the ten, inside the five,

660
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and I would imagine that that would be the case

661
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>with Dobbs again. If New England stands pat which is

662
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the million dollar question, Shane, certainly, I think New England

663
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:10.599
<v Speaker 1>is more than willing to go to battle with what

664
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>they have in that wide receiver room right now. But

665
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I got to believe the wheels are turning h that

666
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 1>they're they're that they're still working on this Aj Brown trade.

667
00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>You still have Deebo Samuel Juwan Jennings out there in

668
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>free agency if they want to add another piece there,

669
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>or they could simply draft a receiver in the second

670
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>round too, or maybe even the late first round. I

671
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they're what what they're thinking is, but

672
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 1>this all reflects on you know, all these kind of

673
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>like question marks with a lot of people, a lot

674
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.279
<v Speaker 1>of pundits believing the wide receiver room in New England

675
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>is still a work in process. So how do we

676
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>handle Romeo Dobbs right now? Would you consider if you

677
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>want to invest in him in the Never too Early

678
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>best FFPC Bestball Tournament? It is an eleventh round pick,

679
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.559
<v Speaker 1>He's going as wide receiver forty seven. Does that seem

680
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 1>palatable to you? Does that seem like a target for you? Shane?

681
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 1>How do we handle Romeo Dobbs knowing that his role

682
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 1>as it stands in mid March could be very different

683
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 1>than what it is in early September.

684
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I think the ADP is palatable to me, Like you said,

685
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I think the eleventh round is not enough risk that

686
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:19.679
<v Speaker 2>if they do the Pagriots do trade for AJ Brown

687
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 2>or draft another receiver that you're you're losing out. You know,

688
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>you could probably tell me Bulky if you agree. But

689
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, watching Romeo Dobbs, I think, I think he's

690
00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 2>a really good NFL player, But I don't see a

691
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>target hog that's going to be, you know, the number

692
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>one for a team and turn into this, you know,

693
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>top guy that's going to get a ton of targets.

694
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, you can target him in the red

695
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>zone or to help you get down the field. I

696
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 2>think I think he's good at those jump balls, could

697
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 2>test the catches. But when I watch Dobbs, I don't

698
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>see a player that's gaining separation every play and and

699
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>running all these different you know, route combinations. It feels

700
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot like Green Bay, where there's gonna be a

701
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of options for the Patriots even if they don't,

702
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, just add a free agent instead of trading

703
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 2>for ay J. Brown that Drake May's gonna spread the

704
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>ball around. Kishon Boudi is still gonna get his. They're

705
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 2>still gonna want to filter in Kyle Williams onto the

706
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 2>field and have some deep shots. You know, Dobbas I

707
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>think will be a fine best ball selection in the

708
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 2>eleventh round, but if he starts creeping up higher than

709
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably out. And can we please not let the

710
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Patriots draft the receiver anymore? Can we just like ban

711
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>them from drafting just to just check bus next to

712
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the name if if they do it, like trade for

713
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 2>a J. Brown please so you know that you have

714
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>a guy that can play.

715
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I think Bill Belichick even said as much. I don't

716
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>know if he's said it like actually out loud, but

717
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 1>he said something to the fact of, like, we really

718
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>struggle to evaluate rookie wider series, so it's just easier

719
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>for us to you know, sign Stefan Diggs or trade

720
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 1>for Randy Moss or whatever it was. And quite frankly,

721
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 1>that worked out pretty nicely for him. Over the years,

722
00:35:58.400 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they have not had a whole lot of hits there,

723
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 1>with Jalen Polk and Nikhil Harry coming to mind, and

724
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>got it feel like I got to scrape off my

725
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>tongue after saying those just awful stuff. Yeah, so, Dobbs,

726
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, he's almost a target in the

727
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>eleventh round because the value is so good and the upside.

728
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 1>It's not like traditional fantasy upside. I look at the

729
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>upside that you have with Dobbs is if they don't

730
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>sign anybody else. This is a guy that's gonna threaten

731
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 1>to get a thousand yards like Diggs did last year.

732
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that I think does a lot of

733
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:33.159
<v Speaker 1>things very well.

734
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

735
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's ever the type of guy that's

736
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna get like one hundred and thirty targets and just

737
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>be the alpha for a team. I know Washington was

738
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>looking at him being the one b to Terry McLaurin,

739
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately New England paid more money for Dobbs, so

740
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think we follow the money there a little bit.

741
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I do think we see a spike in production from

742
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Dobbs based on what he was doing with Green Bays,

743
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 1>fighting for targets from Watson and Tucker Craft. You know,

744
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>two dynamic players there, and I don't I know, he's

745
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 1>still fighting for competent tiger competition in New England, but

746
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's as fears. So I do think

747
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>we see a step up for him and the eleventh round, man,

748
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, like this, this is this is the

749
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>spot where you probably gotta grab him. Speaking of the Commanders,

750
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Bucky Eccually not Bucky Irving. Rashad White has left Bucky

751
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Irving in Tampa to sign with the Washington Commanders. It

752
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>is a one year deal. I think it was only

753
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>for like two million bucks or something like that. It

754
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 1>was not a significant investment. We all talk, not we all,

755
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>but plenty of people have been talking about potentially Brandon

756
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 1>Iuk and Jaden Daniels reuniting in our nation's capital because

757
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>they were teammates with Arizona for the Arizona State Sun Devils. Well,

758
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Rashad White was a teammate of Jaden Daniels in Arizona

759
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.280
<v Speaker 1>State as well, and now they are back together again.

760
00:37:54.679 --> 00:38:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Forty two carries eight catches in twenty twenty for Arizona State,

761
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and then certainly in twenty twenty one took a massive

762
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 1>step forward both rushing and catching the ball. One hundred

763
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and eighty two carries forty three catches. The Commanders are

764
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>collecting running backs. I mentioned your own fordger Cory Krofsky

765
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 1>merrit Obviously they're still as well. I don't know if

766
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>if this is a situation, Shane, where we should target

767
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 1>White because he's probably the biggest fish in a small

768
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.840
<v Speaker 1>pond there, right, Or do we just kind of fade

769
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 1>the Commanders in general, because this is gonna be crazy,

770
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 1>mash them ups, mix them ups with the depth chart

771
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 1>on a week to week basis, and we're never going

772
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 1>to know the right guy to go with. Certainly, you

773
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have to pay up for any of these guys,

774
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>but if you could let me know who the Commander's

775
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>running back is to have on your fantasy team this year,

776
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I certainly welcome that knowledge.

777
00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I think it's easy, right, Jane Daniels's that's the

778
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 2>running back for the Commanders I want on my team, right?

779
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't know, that's what it says to me,

780
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Like he's Jane Daniels is going to be the RB

781
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 2>one and everyone else gets to pick up the scraps.

782
00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Now.

783
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I traded for a lot of Rashad White in Dynasty

784
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>because I thought the NFL would really like his pass blocking.

785
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I think he's one of the best pass blocking backs

786
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>in the league and one of the best pass catching backs.

787
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He can't run worth a lick, but you know, those

788
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>those two things are enough to get you on the

789
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>field on those third downs and those key situations. So

790
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I think White is probably the biggest target for me,

791
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I have to pick one of these

792
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 2>guys out of a hat. Yeah, the Commanders still could

793
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 2>add a running back. We talked about love, but even

794
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 2>day two, I think they have a shot to draft one.

795
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.400
<v Speaker 2>You know, the Jerome Ford contract, the Rashad White contract

796
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:44.119
<v Speaker 2>are not guys they have to lock in. Jakoy Krofsky.

797
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Merritt probably is the big winner from this free agency

798
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>that they we didn't get Travis a Chan which I

799
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 2>said incorrectly last time. It was my first time trying

800
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>that since since the announcement, But you know, because he

801
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 2>didn't get that eb Jacory Krasky, Merrick gets another shot

802
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>to be kind of the lead, you know, first two

803
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 2>down running back if they don't draft another one. But

804
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 2>I like Rashad White in PPR leagues just from a

805
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>past catching perspective. I think for Jane Daniels, you have

806
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the experience with him, you know he's gonna block well

807
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:21.599
<v Speaker 2>for you. I think that veteran kind of leadership to

808
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 2>have on the field, even if White's a little bit

809
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 2>inefficient as a runner, might win out and despite the contract.

810
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, the other guy said at the top that

811
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>there was one other running back I'm forgetting that they signed.

812
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 1>They resigned Jeremy McNichols, who I believe is the rare

813
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>running back in Washington that just has a permanent locker

814
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 1>in that locker room. I don't think they like even

815
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 1>when they release him or he's a free agent, he's

816
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.599
<v Speaker 1>free to sign with anybody else, they just keep his

817
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 1>locker there. So McNichols is there as well, or perhaps

818
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>sham they gave McNichols the locker that used to belong

819
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to Chris Rodriguez Junior, who is taking his talents from

820
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>DC to duvall As. Liam Cohen would say, point two

821
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.159
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in fully guaranteed money on this contract. Now,

822
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 1>let's unpack this a little bit. Four million dollars signing ponents.

823
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>So obviously you know that that he's not just going

824
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 1>to be a guy on this team. They want to

825
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>be able to utilize him. When I found out that

826
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>a Chan had moved from Jacksonville over to New Orleans,

827
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>immediately wheels up bashall toot. They believe in Tuton they

828
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 1>want to let him go this year. He was hyped up,

829
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about by a lot of pundits last year as

830
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 1>a guy that maybe could even have taken the backfield

831
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.280
<v Speaker 1>away from a Chan and twenty twenty five that now

832
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>that didn't happen, but there's a lot of people at

833
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 1>least allowing for the possibility for that. So now obviously

834
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that a Chan moves on and you have Tuton here,

835
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 1>we should be doing everything in our power. And I'm

836
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>saying we as in me, this is my reaction, we

837
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 1>should be doing everything in our power. I'm going through

838
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 1>my dynasty league, Shane. I'm saying, Okay, which leagues do

839
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I have Tuton on? This is great. It's like a

840
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>free running back. It's like a free starting running back.

841
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And then I started thinking about it more rationally. Chris

842
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 1>rod rea Is played college football at Kentucky when Liam

843
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Cohen was there. Rodriguez left a situation in Washington where

844
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.119
<v Speaker 1>they were bereft and he could have been the lead

845
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>guy there potentially, and maybe they didn't want him back.

846
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he leaves to go sign with Jacksonville.

847
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>James Gladstone quote from him, the GM from Jacksonville. What

848
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>he'll able to, what he'll be able to do is

849
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 1>provide the complimentary skill set, in particular when it comes

850
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to the inside running, the hidden yards that come with

851
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>his style of play. You know, the tough demeanor. You know,

852
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a real thing, and when given a higher workload,

853
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it can wear out those that have to stop it

854
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>from going forward. He also mentioned something about Rodriguez having

855
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 1>superpowers or being a superhero. I don't know what they're

856
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>doing in Jacksonville, but some of the press conferences with

857
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Gladstone and Cohen have been nothing short of amazing. But Rodriguez, now, dude,

858
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this. I'm almost thinking like I might

859
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.679
<v Speaker 1>be going one to eighty. Like I think Rodriguez might

860
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 1>be the guy I want at least a redraft this year.

861
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 1>If I could share with you, Chris Rodriguez running back

862
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 1>fifty three at the fifteen to oh four Bacial Tuton

863
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>right now is going as running back twenty four at

864
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the five h nine. To me, it's not close. If

865
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I have to pick the better value of those two,

866
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 1>it's unequivocally Rodriguez unless I'm missing something.

867
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, I think value wise, right now, Rodriguez

868
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 2>is the guy that you want, because that contract locks

869
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>him into a roster spot, He's gonna get some work.

870
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I was a big Basil Tuton fan

871
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 2>last year. I think we talked about him thoroughly on

872
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the show last year. I think in this this rookie class,

873
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>he'd be a top five running back pretty easily, maybe

874
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.079
<v Speaker 2>even top three running back in this rookie class.

875
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Do you think, Shane, do you think he'd be the defect? Like,

876
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 1>would he be like the the the number two running

877
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>back in this class? Like, do you think that's how

878
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:54.320
<v Speaker 1>people would be treating him?

879
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be.

880
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

881
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd be right there with you Darien Price, like,

882
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 2>I think they're probably the top, you know, and Jonah Coleman.

883
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I probably lean Tooton over Coleman and maybe Price over Tuton.

884
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I think as a prospect, the probably close. So

885
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, in Gladstone talked him up before you

886
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 2>even got the job, right, That's part of his interview was, Hey,

887
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 2>Basil Tuten's the guy want to draft. So But I

888
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>think the positive for Tutin out of this is the

889
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Jaguars can't draft a running back to make the roster, right.

890
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Roriguez isn't getting cut Tuton's not getting cut and I

891
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.639
<v Speaker 2>don't think you can put la Quinn Allen on a

892
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.079
<v Speaker 2>practice squad without him getting picked up. I think they

893
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>like his past catching skills. Like I think this is

894
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the unit and it's going to be a three headed monster.

895
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, I think value wise, like I'll take

896
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the shot on Rodriguez that late RB fifty three all day.

897
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>It could be a touchdown thing. With his experience with Cohen,

898
00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 2>he knows the offense. I think all that works out.

899
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just hard for me to see a player who

900
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 2>was inactive on the Commanders who they're terrible running back room.

901
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, couldn't crack it until injuries happened. Now is

902
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>there's a lead back, and like that jump to me

903
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.519
<v Speaker 2>is a lot just the explosion. Isn't there for Rodriguez

904
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 2>to be. I think a consistent three down running back.

905
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 2>You know he breaks tackles well, But when you're you know,

906
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 2>smacking into the defenders every time, you're gonna you're gonna

907
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 2>break some tackles. You know you're you're a big guy.

908
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think Tutan's gonna be the lead back. I

909
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 2>think Rodriguez will get a lot of the short yardage work,

910
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe get Snake those touchdowns and us to managers will

911
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 2>all get mad. I think Luken Allen will do some

912
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 2>of the past catching work and we'll be frustrated by

913
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 2>the backfield for sure.

914
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So the Rodriguez signing, does that have you shying away

915
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>from Tuton in the late fifth round?

916
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm still interested. I think if Tutan would get higher, no,

917
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:50.679
<v Speaker 2>but right now before the draft, I'm interested because I

918
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 2>do think Tuton's value will increase when they don't draft

919
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 2>another running back. I think people start to creep them

920
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 2>into the fourth and see the upside. You know how

921
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that goes. Sometimes I think you're still little trepidation, and

922
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I think the contract in situation means like these are

923
00:46:04.440 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 2>the three And if that's the case, then I still

924
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 2>like Tutin. If he, you know, shows that full hour,

925
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 2>well rounded skill set, I think it'll be tough to

926
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:12.840
<v Speaker 2>take him off the field.

927
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I know I'll be watching with Ernest to see, not

928
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>necessarily what the Jaguars are going to do in the draft,

929
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'm with you, I don't think they draft anybody.

930
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Free agency has been pick clean. What I'll be watching

931
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.559
<v Speaker 1>for is how this ADP shakes out. In early May.

932
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Once we kind of know, like unequivvocally, this is how

933
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be. And if you want to get

934
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 1>ahead of it right now, take advantage of drafting too,

935
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and take advantage of drafting Rodriguez right now in the

936
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 1>FFPC never two early Best Ball Tournament viewers. That's a

937
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>shameless plug. The Minnesota Vikings have inked Kyler Murray to

938
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 1>a one year deal. Tom Pellisero from the NFL Network

939
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>has reported that the Arizona Cardinals are paying thirty I believe,

940
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.039
<v Speaker 1>what was it, thirty five million, and then one point

941
00:46:56.039 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>eight million is being paid by the Vikings. So what's

942
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 1>wild to me is is the hate for Kyler Murray.

943
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Shane every I mean, everybody and their mother is just

944
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 1>like that this guy is. I mean, it's like like

945
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Will Levis stuff, Like we're we're saying stuff about Will

946
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Will Levis, Like these these slurs that we are being

947
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 1>hurled at Kyler Murray right now, we're the same stuff

948
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 1>that people were saying about Levis and some of the

949
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>and Josh Rosen and I don't think he's at that level.

950
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 1>And now he gets into a situation in Minnesota where

951
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 1>he's throwing to Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ. Hockins, and

952
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones and and certainly we'll see what they do

953
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.639
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. They gotta replace Jalen Naylor. I think

954
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>this is a good situation for Murray. And you do have,

955
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I believe, a pretty talented coach there who has worked

956
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 1>wonders with sort of rehabbing these these veteran young veteran

957
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks and and and squeezing more goodness out of them.

958
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do it with McCarthy, but I'm not gonna

959
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.280
<v Speaker 1>hold that against him, given what he's been able to

960
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>do with, you know, Donald and some of these other

961
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 1>guys that had no been Nick Mullins and these other

962
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>guys that had no business being under center in the NFL.

963
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of in on Kyler Murray when you consider

964
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 1>that he still has his legs under him, he's still fresh,

965
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:18.440
<v Speaker 1>he's still young. He's going to use those two his advantage.

966
00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 1>I think Minnesota's offensive line has gotten a little bit

967
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 1>better here this year, at least healthier for twenty twenty six.

968
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think Murray is, as Matthew Berry

969
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 1>would say, the hate has gone too far. On him.

970
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I think people need to start waking up and understanding

971
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:36.039
<v Speaker 1>that Murray might be maybe not the greatest NFL quarterback,

972
00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 1>but there's some fantasy goodness to mine here.

973
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just funny to me because if he was a

974
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 2>late first round pick instead of the number one overall pick,

975
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 2>I think people would love Kyler Murray right like they

976
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.320
<v Speaker 2>have people be like, wow, you know so much better

977
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>than we thought. I'm on board. Draft Sharks is on board.

978
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>We have his QB fifteen. I think he's a potential

979
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:56.960
<v Speaker 2>league win. I think his potential league winner. This is

980
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the guy outside of last season, was the top ten

981
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 2>fantasy quarterback points per game every single year of his

982
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>career except last last year. And like you said, weapons

983
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.079
<v Speaker 2>are better best he's had, you know, just about a

984
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>system best he's had. If he wins that job, I

985
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.280
<v Speaker 2>think that's the only downside is you think, well, maybe

986
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 2>they stick with JJ McCarthy. I don't think they would

987
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 2>have made this signing out of the Carson Wentz is

988
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 2>winning the job, Like yeah, this is kind of a

989
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson Steelers situation where you don't have to pay

990
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 2>him anything, but you're getting you know, the quarterback that

991
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.679
<v Speaker 2>you plan on starting for for almost nothing, and you

992
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.840
<v Speaker 2>can let McCarthy sit. I'm in the rushing for fantasy

993
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.480
<v Speaker 2>is just is so good. I think he's gonna be

994
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 2>able to get the ball Justin Jefferson a lot better

995
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 2>than we saw JJ McCarthy last year. I'm in a

996
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray.

997
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>There is a glut of quarterbacks going from quarterbacks seventeen

998
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 1>to quarterback twenty one, including Murray. In this I'm gonna

999
00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:54.119
<v Speaker 1>read off the other quarterbacks in here. You tell me

1000
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>if you would draft any of these guys over Murray.

1001
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:01.079
<v Speaker 1>And those four quarterbacks are Jordan Love, Baker Mayfield, Tyler Shuk,

1002
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and Malik Willis, who actually mister bakes a lot just

1003
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.519
<v Speaker 1>chiming in saying he'd rather have Willis than Kyler Murray.

1004
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.280
<v Speaker 1>But would you draft Shane any of those four quarterbacks

1005
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 1>over Murray, Willis, Shook, Mayfield, Love.

1006
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 2>No, No, not a question to me, like I'm more

1007
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 2>do I want?

1008
00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:18.639
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1009
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 2>And obviously value wise, I'm gonna wait and take Murray?

1010
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 2>But do I want Jared Goff? You know? I think

1011
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean Kyler Murray offers similar upsides. So mister bakes

1012
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>lock and hate and I'll draft Kyler Murray and if

1013
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.840
<v Speaker 2>he starts, I'm gonna have a top ten Fantasy quarterback

1014
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 2>and you probably won't.

1015
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly that there's a chance of that. Yeah, he

1016
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 1>wants he wants all those guys over Murray. I wonder

1017
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like if we if we have to get down to

1018
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 1>like the Jacoby Brissettes and Goss and Aaron Rodgers of

1019
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 1>the world, and then see what Bakes wants to do

1020
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>with Murray compared to those guys. Last point I want

1021
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to do before we take a break. We touched on

1022
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the Eagle situation before. Philadelphia is trying to solve this

1023
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>situation with their third wide receiver and maybe they've finally

1024
00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.679
<v Speaker 1>done it here with Hollywood Brown. It's one year, it's

1025
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>six and a half million. Jordan Schultz, NFL Insider Jordan

1026
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Schultz reporting on this Chane, Is there anything here with

1027
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Brown in bestball leagues? Is this a player that

1028
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>we want to be in business with or have we

1029
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>just sort of seen like kind of what he is

1030
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:23.679
<v Speaker 1>and what he's going to be for the remainder of

1031
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>his career. He gets another year older every single year.

1032
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that you know, at least a half

1033
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.639
<v Speaker 1>a step. Probably that's what you lose over the course

1034
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 1>of a year year a year to year basis. Now

1035
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 1>at his age in the league, I'm not terribly excited

1036
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:41.079
<v Speaker 1>about I think the only thing that would get me

1037
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 1>excited is if Smith or Brown were to go down,

1038
00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>or if Brown gets traded, then I think we might

1039
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 1>have something there. But as it stands right now, I

1040
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have a whole lot of excitement over this signing,

1041
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.760
<v Speaker 1>even though it was formerly a big name in fantasy football,

1042
00:51:54.039 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 1>going to an offense that should rebound this year.

1043
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:02.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm not super excited. I would having a little best

1044
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.039
<v Speaker 2>ball of Brown. Like I said, if they do trade

1045
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>AJ Brown or Devant Smith gets hurt. We saw two

1046
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 2>years ago Hollywood Brown have a couple of spike games

1047
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 2>with the Chiefs. I think that could happen, But the

1048
00:52:13.559 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Eagles are never gonna be as pass heavy as the

1049
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs were, So I think even if Hollywood Brown gets

1050
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:23.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, eighty percent of snaps because Major Brown gets

1051
00:52:23.159 --> 00:52:25.400
<v Speaker 2>moved or there's an injury, I don't think you're gonna

1052
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>see huge production. So I'm pretty much out, but I'll

1053
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:29.519
<v Speaker 2>probably sprinkle a little bit in a couple of my

1054
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 2>basketball teams just in case.

1055
00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the the old FOMO they are a pick, which

1056
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably do in Best Ball as well. Okay, this

1057
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 1>was great stuff here. What I want to do, Shane,

1058
00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 1>is we're gonna take a break. We'll be out for

1059
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 1>a couple of minutes or two or three minutes or so.

1060
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do some live reads here. So if you

1061
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 1>need to get a drink or hit the head whatever,

1062
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>feel free. But when we come back, we're gonna go

1063
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>hard on these rookies, okay, and we're gonna lead things

1064
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 1>off with the wide receiver. I have a thought on

1065
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>which of the big three receivers is standing out most

1066
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.639
<v Speaker 1>to me, and it might be different for you, So

1067
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to get into that. We'll get into

1068
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the tight end conversation as well. Shane P. Hallum on

1069
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>X he writes for Draft Sharks. You can hear him

1070
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on several of the Draft Sharks podcasts there as well.

1071
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 1>You are watching f FPC Insider Access, Eric Walkman, Shane

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<v Speaker 1>hallm coming back right after this, don't go anywhere. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got a baller second hour of the show coming up

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<v Speaker 1>of FPC Insider Access this evening. We will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>y f f pc dot com getting an early start

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<v Speaker 1>on our number two for FFPC insider access. My name

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<v Speaker 1>is Eric Balkman. He is Shane Hallam from Draft Sharks

1120
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>at Shane P. Hallum on the X as well. Let's

1121
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>get into the rookies. This is, by the way, Shane,

1122
00:57:16.480 --> 00:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>what kind of attracted to you, because you've been such

1123
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a draft guru for I mean years now, probably decades

1124
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 1>might be more accurate. What originally attracted to you? What

1125
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.159
<v Speaker 1>is it about these rookies every single year that has

1126
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 1>you hooked and wanting to do so much work and

1127
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>critique on their games as well as how it translates

1128
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:33.599
<v Speaker 1>to fantasy football.

1129
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>My first year scouting was two thousand and four, so

1130
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, back back then, I mean there was not

1131
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 2>much coverage, you know, ESPN and mel Kiper and a

1132
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 2>magazine or two, and I was like, you know, this

1133
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 2>would be I was like being a big fish in

1134
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 2>small ponds. So I was on a bunch of fantasy

1135
00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 2>football like forums. No one was talking rookies till after

1136
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the draft is like, I'll be that guy. You know,

1137
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I like to do that type of stuff. And so

1138
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it's always been, you know, been a thing that I've

1139
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed and I've always said, you know, I can, I

1140
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.280
<v Speaker 2>really do it. But with volume, I'm the first to

1141
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>have seven round mock drafts every single year for two

1142
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 2>years in advance, three years in advance, and you know,

1143
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll just continue trying to be the first to watch

1144
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:16.760
<v Speaker 2>these guys and do it.

1145
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you spend a lot of time on Saturdays in

1146
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the fall watching college football or are you more of

1147
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.079
<v Speaker 1>a tape grinder at your convenience?

1148
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. Since my daughter's two and a half, So

1149
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.599
<v Speaker 2>since having her, it's been at my convenience, Saturdays are

1150
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a little more full than they used to be. But

1151
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, YouTube TV is an awesome thing where I

1152
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 2>can record literally every game and be able to watch it.

1153
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, once the L twenty two gets uploaded,

1154
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.920
<v Speaker 2>usually Tuesday or Wednesday, then I can start digging in,

1155
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.440
<v Speaker 2>which is always fun, and then it's fun to go back.

1156
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm doing now, is going back and

1157
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>watching things already have notes on to see you know,

1158
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.039
<v Speaker 2>what changes, what I missed and see if I agree

1159
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.119
<v Speaker 2>with consensus, if things are different than what I say.

1160
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Given that this is your twenty third year of doing this,

1161
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.440
<v Speaker 1>is is there a hit that you have had over

1162
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the course of two decades plus that you're most proud of,

1163
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Like a guy that maybe not a lot of people

1164
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 1>were on, but you were pounding the table for him.

1165
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:18.159
<v Speaker 1>You like this, I remember, and he wasn't alone. And

1166
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>quite frankly, you might have been one of these guys too,

1167
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But I know Derek Brown was the guy that kind

1168
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of turned me on to Pukinnakua when he came out.

1169
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that that is one of the hat hagars

1170
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.079
<v Speaker 1>for him. Do you have a hat hagar for a

1171
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.719
<v Speaker 1>hit for a player that you were really telling everybody, listen,

1172
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:35.480
<v Speaker 1>this guy is gonna be awesome. I don't care what

1173
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you say, and you were proved right.

1174
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll give you one that it was a short

1175
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 2>term hit, but it was an undrafted player that hit

1176
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that I was talking up for months and drafting in

1177
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.639
<v Speaker 2>FFPC Best Pall Leagues, And that's James Robinson who running

1178
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 2>back for the Jaguars. Right. I had an article when

1179
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I worked with Draft Countdown and ran that on hidden

1180
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.119
<v Speaker 2>and just like that, this guy's really good. And then

1181
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 2>he didn't get drafted a like, wow, I look awful,

1182
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.519
<v Speaker 2>drafted a ton of bestball leagues and early best ball

1183
01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 2>leagues and then uh that that rookie year man he

1184
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.440
<v Speaker 2>hit and and the injuries ended up doing them in.

1185
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:11.800
<v Speaker 2>But that's always one that I know. It's not like

1186
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 2>a Puka Nakua who's gonna be this like ever lasting player.

1187
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 2>But you know, he didn't even get drafted and hit

1188
01:00:17.639 --> 01:00:18.239
<v Speaker 2>as a rookie.

1189
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Robinson. I remember I was doing a I was covering

1190
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.039
<v Speaker 1>the draft the year that Lawrence and a Chan went

1191
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.840
<v Speaker 1>in the first round to Jacksonville, and I was I

1192
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:32.760
<v Speaker 1>was doing a live radio show covering the draft, and

1193
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:36.079
<v Speaker 1>it was everything was falling into place with my Dynasty guys,

1194
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and and I just figured there's no way that Jacksonville

1195
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:41.079
<v Speaker 1>would take a quarterback and a running back in the

1196
01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:46.159
<v Speaker 1>first round. And I when when a Chan got drafted,

1197
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw it up on the screen. It's like, no,

1198
01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:52.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, this ruins James Robbins. I was so ticked up. Again,

1199
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.159
<v Speaker 1>if if I remember correctly, I think a Chan had

1200
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 1>like a knee problem like a that knocked him out,

1201
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:00.960
<v Speaker 1>So you got another bonus year or at least bonus

1202
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.000
<v Speaker 1>part of the year with James Robinson until as you said,

1203
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 1>injuries ultimately did him in. But certainly you saw something

1204
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in Robinson and and you were proved right. What was

1205
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it about him? Was he Illinois State Robinson? I remember?

1206
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.840
<v Speaker 1>What was it about him that you really liked? Was

1207
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it tackle breaking ability, contact balance? What was it?

1208
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 2>As really really like smoothness like his hips, just the

1209
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:28.559
<v Speaker 2>transition in cutting and moving to me, was was NFL

1210
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.480
<v Speaker 2>like top tier NFL type of talent And I think

1211
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that sometimes translates better than the raw athleticism,

1212
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:38.800
<v Speaker 2>especially at running back sometimes and we'll get into it

1213
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit uh with some players this year, but

1214
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean that just like smoothness, You know when you

1215
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 2>watch some of those players and they just look like

1216
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.199
<v Speaker 2>like they're not moving or they're you know, they're moving

1217
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 2>with the wind, like James Robinson was that type of player,

1218
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's what really made him successful early

1219
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>in his NFL career.

1220
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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So we'll get into the running backs at

1221
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the hour, but right now, let's off

1222
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 1>with the wide receivers. Now I listed these guys you know,

1223
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on on their own particular line. But let's talk about

1224
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the three, the three big ones that that most people

1225
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 1>are are people are most excited about. But Kyle Lemon,

1226
01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Carnel Tate and Jordan Tyson I have now, granted, I

1227
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 1>don't have these guys like I don't have one of

1228
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.920
<v Speaker 1>them pulling away significantly than the others. I have my

1229
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 1>favorite out of the three, but I could probably be

1230
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.920
<v Speaker 1>convinced to go a different way. I'm not going to

1231
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 1>reveal who it is. But if you are assessing this,

1232
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and I know you put on a bunch of stuff

1233
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 1>on X and with draft Sharks about this. If you're

1234
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.239
<v Speaker 1>assessing this, how are you assessing these three in relation

1235
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to each other? Obviously landing spot is going to be huge.

1236
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But as it stands right now, Shane, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>one of these guys separating more so than the other two?

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01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:51.760
<v Speaker 1>And how would you rank them right now?

1239
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:55.880
<v Speaker 2>As well? I think it's close. And I'll say about

1240
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:58.000
<v Speaker 2>these three as a whole. And you look at mock

1241
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.519
<v Speaker 2>drafts and you're seeing some going, you know, Cornell take

1242
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 2>going in the top ten or whatever. I've had this

1243
01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 2>feeling and it's been hesitant to kind of say it.

1244
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Dane Bruler or the Athletic articulated it as well, and

1245
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I mean, I don't think there's

1246
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver one in this class. It's not like

1247
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 2>a number one wide receiver for an NFL team. I

1248
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 2>think a Lemon, Tate Tyson all really good number two options.

1249
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.360
<v Speaker 2>So I want to put that out there first because

1250
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes you see the draft capital it's a

1251
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.960
<v Speaker 2>week class as a whole, the entire class, not just

1252
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the fantasy guys, so they're getting propped up a little bit.

1253
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 2>My favorite, I think it's close. I think they all

1254
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.760
<v Speaker 2>do different things well, aren't going to fit different systems. Well,

1255
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.119
<v Speaker 2>mkaile Lemon is my favorite receiver of the three. I

1256
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 2>think he will be the third one drafted, maybe even

1257
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 2>fourth receiver. I could even see him falling further because

1258
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:49.039
<v Speaker 2>mackay Lemon is an elite slot wide receiver, and we

1259
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.360
<v Speaker 2>saw last year the trend really kick up was already

1260
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:56.039
<v Speaker 2>trending that way of less teams using the slot wide receiver,

1261
01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:58.679
<v Speaker 2>more twelve personnel tight ends. So it's going to be

1262
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 2>a specific system that's going to want McKay Lemon. Whereas Cornel,

1263
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Tat and Jordan Tyson, I think will fit more teams,

1264
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 2>so there'll be more teams that have them on their boards.

1265
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I think McKay lemon, to me, you know, flashed them

1266
01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:14.119
<v Speaker 2>outside ability in twenty twenty four. Really the slot stuff

1267
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 2>is what worked for him in twenty twenty five, but

1268
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.760
<v Speaker 2>really reminds me of Ceedee Lamb as a prospect. You

1269
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:22.559
<v Speaker 2>remember Ceedee Lamb fell further than most people thought because

1270
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.840
<v Speaker 2>it was a slot wide receiver. Mike McCarthy ends up

1271
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 2>drafting him, who needs needs a slot receiver as well,

1272
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.800
<v Speaker 2>again for Pittsburgh. But I think Lemon, you know, is

1273
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.280
<v Speaker 2>an elite after the catch, really hard to bring down,

1274
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 2>really savviot, looking not just at the guy in front

1275
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 2>of him, kind of the old Barry Sanders of looking

1276
01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 2>at the next level and knowing, how can I beat

1277
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:44.639
<v Speaker 2>that guy? I'll beat this one. And I think McKay

1278
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 2>lemon does that so well after the catch, you know,

1279
01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:49.480
<v Speaker 2>really quick off the snap and his footwork's so sharp.

1280
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:51.360
<v Speaker 2>But he's not you know, he's a four or five

1281
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 2>speed player that's on the smaller side and a slot receiver.

1282
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.599
<v Speaker 2>But I think the shiftiness, you know, I think mclemon's

1283
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be more of the target hog of these three,

1284
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:05.760
<v Speaker 2>whereas I think like Tate, I think talent wise, you

1285
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.119
<v Speaker 2>could argue he's the most talented and probably why he'll

1286
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:09.719
<v Speaker 2>be the first one off the board. You know, he's big,

1287
01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:12.400
<v Speaker 2>he's tough, he's these long, he makes those tough catches.

1288
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, he has kind of the power after the

1289
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:17.239
<v Speaker 2>catch that that makes them hard to bring down. Is

1290
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:19.679
<v Speaker 2>gonna pick up extra yardage, But I just fear the

1291
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:21.880
<v Speaker 2>fantasy upside. I don't see him as a player who

1292
01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, he has like a good slant. He can

1293
01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.719
<v Speaker 2>get some separation, but it's not always consistent. I think

1294
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Tate's an elite, you know, downfield kind of contested catcher

1295
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:32.840
<v Speaker 2>George Pickens like which we've seen some of the upside

1296
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.320
<v Speaker 2>for Pickens. I think that that was my compent in

1297
01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.280
<v Speaker 2>the draft, Sharks rookie guy for Tate, you know. But

1298
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be a lot of deeper throws to Tate

1299
01:05:41.880 --> 01:05:43.440
<v Speaker 2>that I think he's gonna win. I think that can

1300
01:05:43.519 --> 01:05:46.920
<v Speaker 2>have some big games and some disappearing games, and and

1301
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.920
<v Speaker 2>then Tyson is probably the hardest for me to peg like.

1302
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I think his upside and downside are a lot more

1303
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 2>extreme than the other two. There are some incredible plays.

1304
01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you watch Jordan tyson highlight film, you

1305
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 2>will think Jordan Tyson is like to be a top

1306
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.119
<v Speaker 2>five pick in this draft. Like the highlights are that good,

1307
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:05.480
<v Speaker 2>but the separation is so inconsistent. I mean, there are

1308
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 2>halves of games where Jordan Tyson isn't getting open, isn't

1309
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:13.320
<v Speaker 2>getting you know, a target that he's able to break

1310
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.760
<v Speaker 2>away and make make a good catch on, where the

1311
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:19.920
<v Speaker 2>defenders getting you know, disrupting him. So I worry about

1312
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.360
<v Speaker 2>some early struggles for Tyson. I think he's gonna need

1313
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.800
<v Speaker 2>some manufacturer touches. I think the screen stuff, some of

1314
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 2>the the you know, sideline work is really good, but

1315
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.519
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna take the right system. You know, he dropped

1316
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of passes, especially two years ago. He's a

1317
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:35.760
<v Speaker 2>little his footwork's a little bit messy. You can get

1318
01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:39.519
<v Speaker 2>too impatient and waste some movement. Like I just think

1319
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.280
<v Speaker 2>there's some refinement that Tyson needs that Tat and Lemon don't.

1320
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And that combined with the injury issues. He's never played

1321
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:50.119
<v Speaker 2>a full college season, you know, hamstring issues last year,

1322
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:52.360
<v Speaker 2>fracture claviical two years ago, a c O M c

1323
01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:55.440
<v Speaker 2>l PCL three years ago, you know, in twenty twenty two.

1324
01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, So I think Tyson has that downside that

1325
01:06:59.679 --> 01:07:00.960
<v Speaker 2>scared me off a little more.

1326
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:06.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, So you ended your assessment with my favorite

1327
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 1>guy and that and that is Tyson. Like you, I

1328
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.800
<v Speaker 1>think these three are very very close for me and

1329
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.360
<v Speaker 1>part of and I think you you kind of made it.

1330
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to put words in your mouth. Maybe

1331
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you did, but I think when you say, like, the

1332
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:24.199
<v Speaker 1>extremes for Tyson are much higher and much lower than

1333
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the other two guys, that's sort of what attracts him

1334
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:30.599
<v Speaker 1>to me or what attracts me to him. Because I

1335
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.480
<v Speaker 1>think you're right. I think these guys, by and large

1336
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 1>are all number two guys. I don't think there's an

1337
01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:38.159
<v Speaker 1>alpha among them, at least in the NFL level. But

1338
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to say that if there is one out

1339
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.119
<v Speaker 1>of these three, I think it's Tyson. I think he

1340
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 1>has the biggest upside. And because I feel like if

1341
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.639
<v Speaker 1>I if I whiff on Tyson, at least I went

1342
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:53.159
<v Speaker 1>big Tate, I think it was a fine polished receiver.

1343
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Lemon. Polish is another good thing to

1344
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 1>bring up because I think Lemon and Tate are more polished,

1345
01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and Tyson well can't get the right coaching and the

1346
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:03.719
<v Speaker 1>right seasoning to get there right. At least that's that's

1347
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 1>what I believe, and I'm sure you would agree that

1348
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 1>certainly that's in the realm of possibilities. And then the

1349
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:12.519
<v Speaker 1>injury thing, I think people are really I think that's

1350
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:15.320
<v Speaker 1>usually you brought it up last, but I think a

1351
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:18.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of people bring up Tyson's injury history first, and

1352
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I look at it and I'm like, Okay, well, it

1353
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was the shredded knee which happened four years ago, that

1354
01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:26.439
<v Speaker 1>could happen to anyone. The fractured collar bone, I mean,

1355
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think that's a I think that's

1356
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of a freak thing as well. And then the

1357
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:33.479
<v Speaker 1>hamstring issues I do. I mean, that is bad, and

1358
01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 1>he missed basically the second half of his last year,

1359
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm also willing to say that's the only injury

1360
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm necessarily concerned about over the course of his career,

1361
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.199
<v Speaker 1>and if it's just a half season, I'm kind of

1362
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:47.199
<v Speaker 1>willing to look the other way when I see the

1363
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:51.640
<v Speaker 1>upside is as high as it is now. Brett Whitefield

1364
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:53.840
<v Speaker 1>from Fantasy Points brought this up like a month or

1365
01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:56.680
<v Speaker 1>so ago about Tyson, and I didn't crunch the film,

1366
01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you could probably speak to this as well. He said

1367
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 1>that Tyson was being schemed open so much like they

1368
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:07.159
<v Speaker 1>would design all these plays for him and he would

1369
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:09.319
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball and there would just be nobody around

1370
01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:12.039
<v Speaker 1>him because everybody or they wanted to make sure that

1371
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Tyson had as much space to operate in as possible,

1372
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.319
<v Speaker 1>which you're probably not going to get at the next level.

1373
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Is that something that you noticed on film too, when

1374
01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you watch Tyson?

1375
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the offense for Arizona State does make

1376
01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Tyson a lot harder to evaluate, Like you know, the

1377
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:32.319
<v Speaker 2>High State offense we've been able to evaluate receivers fairly

1378
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:36.119
<v Speaker 2>well from there is pretty you know, pro ready style scheme,

1379
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Like you know what Carl State's going to be. Like

1380
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you said, Tyson, the offense at Arizona State, I mean

1381
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that's literally what they had. He was the weapon that

1382
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 2>they had the past two years, and so it was

1383
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.479
<v Speaker 2>about getting him. You know a lot of screen stuff,

1384
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of mid screens from him, so you know,

1385
01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:55.560
<v Speaker 2>you have to man him up, you have to have

1386
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 2>a corner. There a lot of times you're shading his

1387
01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:00.159
<v Speaker 2>safety over and if he runs a mid screen, now

1388
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 2>those two dbs are out of the play. You have

1389
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 2>blockers for.

1390
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1391
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:07.640
<v Speaker 2>It was just really built for him to get those touches.

1392
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's why, you know, I think could that happen

1393
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.319
<v Speaker 2>at the NFL level? It could, And that's why I

1394
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:16.760
<v Speaker 2>worry about if you know it is gonna be about team,

1395
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:19.640
<v Speaker 2>just a team put him in a position to be

1396
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.399
<v Speaker 2>that guy, or are you gonna draft him and say, okay,

1397
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 2>now you got you got to learn and catch up

1398
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 2>on everything and be a real NFL receiver and run

1399
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a full route tree and do all this. You know,

1400
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.640
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a really hard thing to get right

1401
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.640
<v Speaker 2>off the bat. So yeah, I think all three are good.

1402
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm happy getting any of the three in a

1403
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:40.960
<v Speaker 2>rookie draft. I'd rather have the you know one oh

1404
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:43.439
<v Speaker 2>five than the the or the one O four and

1405
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:44.359
<v Speaker 2>said than the one of two.

1406
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tyson could be one of those guys, now that

1407
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:48.800
<v Speaker 1>you explain it that way, You could be one of

1408
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:50.840
<v Speaker 1>those guys where you don't draft him, but then you

1409
01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.680
<v Speaker 1>go to the Tyson owner in twenty twenty seven and say, hey,

1410
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, like maybe maybe you want to get rid

1411
01:10:57.039 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 1>of Tyson here. Certainly it didn't pan out the way

1412
01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that Lemon and Tape did, and then you could, you know,

1413
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and he makes that sophomoret leapt there's a possibility of

1414
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that as well. Okay, I want to move on and

1415
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about Casey Conceptsione here. I think it was Pat Forman.

1416
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong on this, but he posted something

1417
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:16.079
<v Speaker 1>on X about this knee up scope that Conceptsion had.

1418
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Earlier this week, Mike Garafalo said he's expected to be

1419
01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:24.319
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent for rookie camp. The report was that

1420
01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:27.920
<v Speaker 1>this was a routine and preventative surgery, and I think

1421
01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it was Pat that said, there's nothing anytime you have

1422
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.880
<v Speaker 1>surgery on your knee, it's not routine and it's not preventative.

1423
01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So I think that he had his eyebrows raised on that.

1424
01:11:38.399 --> 01:11:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you have your eyebrows raised not only in the

1425
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:44.840
<v Speaker 1>surgery but Conceptsion in general, as it seems like he's

1426
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be like a coin flip whether he goes

1427
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.279
<v Speaker 1>in the first round or early second round. Shane, your

1428
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:52.319
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Casey Conceptsion as it pertains to the knee

1429
01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:54.479
<v Speaker 1>surgery and sort of what he's going to be at

1430
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:55.039
<v Speaker 1>the next level.

1431
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not too worried about the ES scope. I

1432
01:11:57.560 --> 01:11:59.199
<v Speaker 2>think I think the ES scopes happen a lot more

1433
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:01.479
<v Speaker 2>than we find out about. I think this happens for

1434
01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot more players than we think. Right, if you have,

1435
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, some some tissue built up there, you have

1436
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:08.680
<v Speaker 2>an injury that's kind of lingered, like it's an easy

1437
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:11.760
<v Speaker 2>way to just kind of clean out, and you know,

1438
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:13.920
<v Speaker 2>and usually we don't find out about it, and then

1439
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:17.039
<v Speaker 2>someone you know, leaked it, so that that I think

1440
01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:19.199
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of the case, especially for college guys.

1441
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh exception, that's tough for me. I think he's going

1442
01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:25.079
<v Speaker 2>to be a better NFL player than fantasy player, which

1443
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:28.319
<v Speaker 2>feels so pass to say, I guess about a prospect,

1444
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 2>but it's my compent. In our Rookie Guide was Percy

1445
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Harvin as kind of an upside comp where where you're

1446
01:12:36.119 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna use him in a ton of different ways, you know, concepts.

1447
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 2>He owns so athletic, so fast that you're you're gonna

1448
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:44.199
<v Speaker 2>want to run, get the ball in his hands and

1449
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.760
<v Speaker 2>and do you know, do a bunch of different stuff

1450
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 2>with him, do reversus, do you know, do some of

1451
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:53.439
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. I mean, watching Concepts, he is

1452
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:56.479
<v Speaker 2>always open because he is so fast and quick. If

1453
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:59.399
<v Speaker 2>you try to man him up, he's he's really good

1454
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:03.199
<v Speaker 2>at getting open. But he's small. I mean, there's not

1455
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 2>much strength there. Teams kind of figured out that if

1456
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:10.039
<v Speaker 2>they had a bigger slot, they could knock him off

1457
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.720
<v Speaker 2>a route early and that timing would be off. So

1458
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:14.840
<v Speaker 2>if you see some of the bad games or poor

1459
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:17.439
<v Speaker 2>production from concept in some games, that was kind of

1460
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.039
<v Speaker 2>what was happening. A lot of drops on his hands

1461
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.119
<v Speaker 2>are among the worst, you know, among the receivers that

1462
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 2>were probably the worst of the receivers that will talk

1463
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>about on the show. You know, So I to me,

1464
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.000
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to see a position even in today's NFL

1465
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:36.560
<v Speaker 2>where Conceptsion you know, gets one hundred plus targets in

1466
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:38.960
<v Speaker 2>a season. Uh, but I think you could have some

1467
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:43.439
<v Speaker 2>big games, big runs, you know, the rushing upside, you know,

1468
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:46.119
<v Speaker 2>it can be a little bit helpful, but again it's

1469
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:49.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's another number two that that's that's to me,

1470
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.039
<v Speaker 2>just just not going to get the volume that you want.

1471
01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got a wonder too with regards to

1472
01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Concepts poor hands I don't know if it would have

1473
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.800
<v Speaker 1>happened in high school or maybe in college, where they're like, boy,

1474
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:06.640
<v Speaker 1>he's so good when he's got the ball in his hands,

1475
01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:08.520
<v Speaker 1>but he just can't catch it. Maybe that's where this

1476
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.600
<v Speaker 1>whole handoff started. We're like, let's just start handing the

1477
01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:12.359
<v Speaker 1>ball off to him.

1478
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:14.920
<v Speaker 2>He came and the rounds every game. You know, here

1479
01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:15.119
<v Speaker 2>you go.

1480
01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:20.079
<v Speaker 1>The trade that Miami made with Denver I think is

1481
01:14:20.199 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 1>interesting for a lot of reasons, but interesting in the

1482
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:26.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that Miami now owns the thirty pick of the draft,

1483
01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 1>and right around there they could take a guy like Concepcion,

1484
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.720
<v Speaker 1>They could take a guy like this person I'm gonna

1485
01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:37.279
<v Speaker 1>bring up right now, Denzel Boston, who declared for the

1486
01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:41.000
<v Speaker 1>draft out of Washington. Obviously, Washington has had some pretty

1487
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.439
<v Speaker 1>good receivers come out of there over the last couple

1488
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.600
<v Speaker 1>of years. Fifty six catches, seven hundred and fifty five

1489
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:49.560
<v Speaker 1>yards and ten touchdowns two point four to four yards

1490
01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 1>per route run in the twenty twenty five season. Boston

1491
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:57.560
<v Speaker 1>has the size I think field Yates was saying that

1492
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:01.399
<v Speaker 1>he could be a big slot type guy in the NFL,

1493
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:03.560
<v Speaker 1>which I think is exciting when you I think that's

1494
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:05.960
<v Speaker 1>another reason I like Tyson too, where he can play inside,

1495
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:09.279
<v Speaker 1>he can play outside. Maybe Boston is the type of

1496
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:12.159
<v Speaker 1>player that could do that, could do that as well.

1497
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.479
<v Speaker 1>He might be a late first round pick. I did

1498
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:20.840
<v Speaker 1>draft him late in some best balls already, and obviously,

1499
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.920
<v Speaker 1>if I'm doing that, Shane, I'm of the belief that

1500
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:25.760
<v Speaker 1>he's going to contribute to whoever drafts him right away

1501
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.960
<v Speaker 1>year one. Do you see it the same way for

1502
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Denzel Boston? And what kind of a dynasty asset is

1503
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:35.479
<v Speaker 1>this gonna Is this guy gonna be over the course

1504
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:36.680
<v Speaker 1>of the first few years in the league.

1505
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely intrigued because of some of the versatility that

1506
01:15:40.720 --> 01:15:43.359
<v Speaker 2>he has. I think you watched Denzel Boston, you see

1507
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.079
<v Speaker 2>a player who knows how to use his size to

1508
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:48.920
<v Speaker 2>his advantage. When he would play, you know, an X

1509
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:52.520
<v Speaker 2>role and he would get pressed. It was something that

1510
01:15:52.680 --> 01:15:55.479
<v Speaker 2>he knew how to keep the defender off of him,

1511
01:15:55.960 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 2>uses that length to his advantage, and then can get

1512
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:00.840
<v Speaker 2>open on a number of routes after that press, and

1513
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.119
<v Speaker 2>so the team started playing back on him. But then

1514
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:05.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, Boston developed a really nice slant route, a

1515
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:07.800
<v Speaker 2>really nice en route, really nice out route. You know,

1516
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I think he has a lot more route versatility than

1517
01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:12.960
<v Speaker 2>even even some of the top three wide receivers in

1518
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:16.880
<v Speaker 2>the class. He's just good hands, you know, really good

1519
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:20.079
<v Speaker 2>catch technique, has a little later breakout than some of

1520
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:22.760
<v Speaker 2>these others, Like you said, because he was behind guys

1521
01:16:22.760 --> 01:16:26.479
<v Speaker 2>that got drafted in the NFL and Washington, including another

1522
01:16:26.520 --> 01:16:29.239
<v Speaker 2>receiver in this class, Jeremy Bernard from who transferred to Alabama,

1523
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:33.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, Boston was behind him. So you know, that's

1524
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.800
<v Speaker 2>always tough to to kind of parse out why. But

1525
01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I do think that the downside for Boston, he's not

1526
01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:42.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna do much after the catch. Even with his size,

1527
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:45.199
<v Speaker 2>he gets tackled pretty easily. So I think you're looking

1528
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:48.359
<v Speaker 2>at a guy that you know, maybe can command a

1529
01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:51.520
<v Speaker 2>little more target targets from that big slot. I think

1530
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I think the right team that has pass a pass

1531
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:57.319
<v Speaker 2>first offense, I think we could see Boston have a

1532
01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:00.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty good impact. So, you know, dynasty wise, I mean

1533
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.800
<v Speaker 2>this wide receiver class these five, to me, is is

1534
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the one O two through the one of six. I mean,

1535
01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I think you're you're drafting these receivers and maybe the

1536
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.319
<v Speaker 2>next guy that we talk about right in that right

1537
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:14.399
<v Speaker 2>in that range before any running back and you know,

1538
01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:16.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe in the FFPC you're going to take the top

1539
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:17.960
<v Speaker 2>tight end over some of them.

1540
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.479
<v Speaker 1>And who is that top tight end. We'll get into

1541
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that in a little bit before we keep keep going

1542
01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Shane when because I hear people talk about the depth

1543
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.119
<v Speaker 1>of wide receiver in this class, the depth is really good,

1544
01:17:29.479 --> 01:17:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and to me, when I hear that over and over again,

1545
01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:34.079
<v Speaker 1>it makes me think that the talent is kind of

1546
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:36.920
<v Speaker 1>flat in in this class. Do you see it as

1547
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 1>sort of like a flat like like this is not

1548
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:42.279
<v Speaker 1>this does not start way up here with the elites

1549
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and then and then have a sharp decline down to

1550
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the guys. Do you see more of

1551
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:50.000
<v Speaker 1>as like a smooth kind of flat curve when when

1552
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we talk about the guys that are going to be

1553
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:53.479
<v Speaker 1>going in the mid first round of the guys that

1554
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:55.000
<v Speaker 1>are going in the mid second round.

1555
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I I tweeted a couple of weeks ago,

1556
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.119
<v Speaker 2>like I'm watching this receiver class and it's it's so deep,

1557
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:06.239
<v Speaker 2>and I like want to like them, and I just don't,

1558
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:08.720
<v Speaker 2>like I think that curve is just this is just

1559
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:12.479
<v Speaker 2>so smooth down that and it starts lower that it's like,

1560
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, none, none of them. You know, there's a

1561
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.319
<v Speaker 2>couple guys that like, you know, I'll swing the bat

1562
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:21.279
<v Speaker 2>for right like you'll you'll pound a table for and

1563
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:23.680
<v Speaker 2>think have that upside that couple are gonna work out.

1564
01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:28.399
<v Speaker 2>But there's there's just so many. I don't say negatives

1565
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:30.600
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think that the negative list is is

1566
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that good? Just like you don't watch most of these

1567
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:36.000
<v Speaker 2>receivers and think, wow, you know this, this guy could

1568
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:38.960
<v Speaker 2>be a star if this is correct or this is fixed.

1569
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:41.479
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of them are capped out, you know.

1570
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:44.479
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's I think part of the NFL draft today,

1571
01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:46.359
<v Speaker 2>we're getting guys that have been in college four, five,

1572
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:49.680
<v Speaker 2>six years coming out. We know, I think we know

1573
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.600
<v Speaker 2>who most of these players are already, you know, I

1574
01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:54.720
<v Speaker 2>mean how many you know. We don't have too many

1575
01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:57.960
<v Speaker 2>early declares here, three year declares here. So that that's

1576
01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the tough part I think about watching them, is it

1577
01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:02.439
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's not a lot of room for growth

1578
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:04.920
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of these players. Outside of I think

1579
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:08.880
<v Speaker 2>like Tyson and Lemon and and and the next guy

1580
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>that we'll talk about, I think those are really the

1581
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:12.279
<v Speaker 2>only ones that I feel like, are gonna grow and

1582
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:15.079
<v Speaker 2>get better. And to me, you know, a second round,

1583
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.479
<v Speaker 2>third round pick that doesn't get better is gonna be

1584
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:20.239
<v Speaker 2>really hard to make a fantasy impact right away.

1585
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you in your last mock draft that you did,

1586
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:25.920
<v Speaker 1>do you did you have five receivers or six receivers

1587
01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:26.840
<v Speaker 1>going in the first round?

1588
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I had five, and and I I might not know

1589
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:34.399
<v Speaker 2>who those five are, but that feels like a good number.

1590
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know, when we again the running backs, I'll

1591
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:40.119
<v Speaker 2>mention it too, but I'll keep saying it. This whole

1592
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 2>class is not great. Like it's not just the skill guys.

1593
01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, like like there's there's positions edge, linebacker, you know, safety,

1594
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, okay, it's pretty good, but like as

1595
01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a whole. And so when you see a guy go sixth,

1596
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver go sixth in this draft, it is

1597
01:19:53.960 --> 01:19:55.840
<v Speaker 2>not sixth then every other draft. And I think you

1598
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:57.600
<v Speaker 2>got to keep that in mind. Sometimes we just say

1599
01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.279
<v Speaker 2>draft capitals, draft capital like this is you know, we

1600
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:02.920
<v Speaker 2>put that bucket out, and I think this bucket this year,

1601
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:04.680
<v Speaker 2>to me, is a lot different than a lot of years.

1602
01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Omar Cooper Junior, We've been teasing. Let's talk about the

1603
01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Indiana guys a lot of speed here. Obviously championship pedigree played,

1604
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:15.800
<v Speaker 1>although I will say he was and I can't remember

1605
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the other guy. You probably know who's the guy who

1606
01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.159
<v Speaker 1>really came on for Indiana, younger guy. He's not in

1607
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the draft this year.

1608
01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:21.720
<v Speaker 2>He Charlie Becker.

1609
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Becker, Yes, that guy along with Cooper and Sarat

1610
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it was it was with Mendoza quarterback. It

1611
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>was such an awesome attack that they had. But Cooper

1612
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.279
<v Speaker 1>seems to be picking up steam a bunch amongst a

1613
01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>bunch of a pundits right now in draft circles, and

1614
01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it is because of his speed. He's a

1615
01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:40.720
<v Speaker 1>guy that could sneak into the first round as well.

1616
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But Cooper, besides speed, Shane, what else does he offer

1617
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:48.000
<v Speaker 1>us that we should care about for how good it's

1618
01:20:48.079 --> 01:20:49.880
<v Speaker 1>going to make him as a fantasy asset.

1619
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he is a really smooth mover, Like that

1620
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:57.800
<v Speaker 2>first step is so explosive, and he transitions into the

1621
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:01.199
<v Speaker 2>route and into his cuts so smoothly that it's really

1622
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.039
<v Speaker 2>hard to cover in man coverage. And I think even

1623
01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:06.880
<v Speaker 2>in zone he really knows how to find that hole

1624
01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.600
<v Speaker 2>in the zone or gets lost kind of behind that

1625
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:12.199
<v Speaker 2>second level or third level sometimes because you're not expecting

1626
01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:15.000
<v Speaker 2>him to move as quick as he is. You know,

1627
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I think Cooper still is a little more athlete than

1628
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>football player. Like I think there's some refinement there. And

1629
01:21:19.800 --> 01:21:21.279
<v Speaker 2>so that's why I said, I think he's one of

1630
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:23.439
<v Speaker 2>those players that I look at him and go, there's

1631
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>improvement that could be made here for already a pretty

1632
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:29.079
<v Speaker 2>good player. So he's still raw. He's not very physical.

1633
01:21:29.279 --> 01:21:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I think that's when he would get into trouble was

1634
01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:34.159
<v Speaker 2>when he had, you know, corners or it was up

1635
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:37.079
<v Speaker 2>against linebackers that could get physical with him. But I'm

1636
01:21:37.119 --> 01:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>a fan of Omark Cooper and I didn't expect him

1637
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.520
<v Speaker 2>to be talked about as a first round pick. I thought,

1638
01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, some of the some of the role combinations were,

1639
01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not a ton there that he's probably going to

1640
01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.720
<v Speaker 2>be more slot only. I don't think he'll play outside.

1641
01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought, Okay, it's probably a round two guy that

1642
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.479
<v Speaker 2>I like. And now it's like he might go top twenty,

1643
01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:01.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, that feels too expensive, you know. It's

1644
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:03.600
<v Speaker 2>it's almost like I want this guy to go Day

1645
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:06.199
<v Speaker 2>two because that will be better. But I'm a Nomark

1646
01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Cooper fan. Uh, certainly, And you know, I could see

1647
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:12.319
<v Speaker 2>him ending up in rookie drafts as you know, the

1648
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>one oh five to one oh six when we get there.

1649
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Does he ever top out in the NFL as a

1650
01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:21.640
<v Speaker 1>top twenty wide receiver fantasy wise in his career?

1651
01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he has that upside if if we see

1652
01:22:26.119 --> 01:22:29.279
<v Speaker 2>a refinement of his route running so to where he

1653
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, isn't just running kind of in and out routes,

1654
01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.159
<v Speaker 2>if you know, if the coaching gets there, Like I

1655
01:22:35.279 --> 01:22:38.479
<v Speaker 2>think Cooper has the athleticism and the you know, the

1656
01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:41.039
<v Speaker 2>loose hips and the you know, the loose joints to

1657
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:44.439
<v Speaker 2>really be dangerous to cover. Uh. And like I said,

1658
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I think being as good as he is against zone coverage,

1659
01:22:46.720 --> 01:22:50.920
<v Speaker 2>which I think it was almost seventy percent of NFL

1660
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:54.439
<v Speaker 2>plays last year defensive plays for zone against pass plays,

1661
01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was a ridiculous number. I think that

1662
01:22:57.079 --> 01:22:58.600
<v Speaker 2>really bodes well for someone like Cooper.

1663
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll see what happened. And obviously, I mean you

1664
01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>could say about any of these prospects, landing spot will

1665
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.039
<v Speaker 1>be key. Elijah Surat is a guy who had this

1666
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>incredible touchdown streak his final year at Indiana. Didn't score

1667
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in the national title game, but he did end the

1668
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>season with sixty five catches, eight hundred and thirty yards

1669
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:20.199
<v Speaker 1>and fifteen count of fifteen touchdowns, which where career highs.

1670
01:23:20.880 --> 01:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>This guy's story was pretty incredible, as you know, the

1671
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:25.880
<v Speaker 1>way he made his way from high school to now

1672
01:23:26.119 --> 01:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>being a national champion, to now being a potential Day

1673
01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.800
<v Speaker 1>two pick in the NFL draft. I worry about the

1674
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:38.640
<v Speaker 1>athleticism not being enough at this next level, but perhaps

1675
01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:42.439
<v Speaker 1>shade with how crafty he is, with how powerful he is,

1676
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>with how big he is, maybe athletics, maybe he ages

1677
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty well in the NFL and becomes a nice little

1678
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:52.239
<v Speaker 1>possession receiver for whoever drafts him. Your thoughts on sarat.

1679
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:56.279
<v Speaker 2>He's you know, he's interesting because I think that's how

1680
01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:58.560
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna win. If he's gonna work out, it's going

1681
01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.560
<v Speaker 2>to be with the the kind of the power, the physicality.

1682
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I think he's one of the better contested catchers in

1683
01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:07.199
<v Speaker 2>the draft, which is not an archetype I love to

1684
01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.159
<v Speaker 2>bet on in fantasy. You know, we certainly have guys

1685
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>that can hit like that, and when they do that,

1686
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you know they have top receiver potential. But that's where

1687
01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:20.199
<v Speaker 2>we also get a lot of busts, you know that

1688
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.199
<v Speaker 2>that come out. I always think of it the Keem

1689
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Butler love that that happened when he got drafted, right,

1690
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:27.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, he's such a good contested catcher. Well

1691
01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:29.800
<v Speaker 2>he can't get open, you know, That's why he had

1692
01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:32.399
<v Speaker 2>to catch everything contested. I think Elijah Serat's kind of

1693
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>the same way, Like he doesn't get open, but he

1694
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:37.079
<v Speaker 2>sure he knows how to he knows positioning, he knows

1695
01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.399
<v Speaker 2>how to box you out. He knows how to do that.

1696
01:24:39.560 --> 01:24:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Just doesn't really pass the eye test. His hips are

1697
01:24:41.239 --> 01:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty tight, but like good hands, good power, enough explosion

1698
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.479
<v Speaker 2>off the line that you can't really press him. I

1699
01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:50.319
<v Speaker 2>think there's upside there. I get why people like him.

1700
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:51.920
<v Speaker 2>He's probably not gonna be someone in a lot of

1701
01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:52.319
<v Speaker 2>my teams.

1702
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Chris Brazzl is a player who had kind of similar

1703
01:24:57.359 --> 01:25:01.479
<v Speaker 1>numbers to Surat last year sixty two. He did get

1704
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>over a thousand yards and he only got nine touchdowns

1705
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>sixteen point four yards per catch. Last year was a

1706
01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>big time breakout season for Brasel. One of the things

1707
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I hear and I don't think we've ever talked about

1708
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>this Shane. One of the things I hear from a

1709
01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:18.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of draftnicks is that they struggle to evaluate Tennessee

1710
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>volunteer wide receivers that play in Josh Heipel's offense there

1711
01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>do you also struggle with that? Why do you think

1712
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:28.199
<v Speaker 1>people struggle with trying to figure out how these Tennessee

1713
01:25:28.279 --> 01:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>receivers are going to turn out once they get to

1714
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the next level? And specifically Brasel, how is he figuring

1715
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.239
<v Speaker 1>in to your rookie rankings for receivers.

1716
01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the reason why Tennessee is so hard to evaluate,

1717
01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:47.479
<v Speaker 2>the hash marks for college are different than the NFL.

1718
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>So in college there's kind of less there's more space

1719
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>on the wings potentially, and so Tennessee uses that they

1720
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>use a wide formation, so the receivers are almost stacked

1721
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>on the sideline all the time, and that's just not

1722
01:26:01.720 --> 01:26:04.800
<v Speaker 2>something you can do in the NFL. With where the

1723
01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:07.279
<v Speaker 2>ball's placed, you know it's gonna be much harder to

1724
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:10.199
<v Speaker 2>hit those passes than well a ten kind of builds

1725
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>are often so you know it's someone's gonna get open, Like,

1726
01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to cover three guys in a stack

1727
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:18.800
<v Speaker 2>all the way against the sideline. I got my three corners,

1728
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll button up against each other. You know, how do

1729
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:22.920
<v Speaker 2>you really cover that? And so when you have a

1730
01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:25.560
<v Speaker 2>really good athlete we saw Doante Thornton last year, I

1731
01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>think Chris brasles a similar class of this kind of big, long,

1732
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:33.239
<v Speaker 2>fast athlete who is really hard to cover when you're

1733
01:26:33.279 --> 01:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>working through traffic as a dB. That makes it really tough.

1734
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why that production came. I think brass a little

1735
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:44.199
<v Speaker 2>more refined than Thornton. It wasn't just like run straight

1736
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and well, you know, we'll get the ball to you.

1737
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Brazil could do a lot of different things. They did

1738
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:49.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of screens with him. They had some middle

1739
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:52.520
<v Speaker 2>of the field stuff for him. But it's definitely tough

1740
01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:55.319
<v Speaker 2>to know if a player has a good feel for

1741
01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:58.479
<v Speaker 2>the receiver position, and if they've played in that system

1742
01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:01.760
<v Speaker 2>for a number of years, it's hard to trust that

1743
01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:03.520
<v Speaker 2>they have a good feel for the position. You know,

1744
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:08.279
<v Speaker 2>you're not learning NFL style offenses and talent any know

1745
01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>who knows. Maybe roles change in ten twenty years and

1746
01:27:11.279 --> 01:27:13.199
<v Speaker 2>we get something similar in the NFL. But for now,

1747
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I like Brazil, but I think he's he's not someone

1748
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I would draft in a redraft, right you know, I

1749
01:27:19.399 --> 01:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's going to be a year one hit,

1750
01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>but he could be a player down the line that

1751
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:28.199
<v Speaker 2>finds a role because of that athleticism, size, speed, stride

1752
01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>is all really good.

1753
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Moving on to the tight ends here, with apologies to

1754
01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the Bells, we will not get to Chris or Skyler tonight.

1755
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Kenyan Sadik leads off at tight end and and I

1756
01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>guess there's and we'll get into this with jeremih Love.

1757
01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>There's been so many people speaking effusively in praising Sadik

1758
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>in Love, I want to talk a little bit about

1759
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>potential warning signs, potential red flags, because with the f

1760
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>FPC tight end premium scoring, there's been a lot of

1761
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>people falling all over themselves the draft sidique in the

1762
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>early to middle part of the first round of Brookie

1763
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:05.399
<v Speaker 1>drafts coming up in a little over a month. This

1764
01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>dude put on a show at the combine. And I

1765
01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>think part of the reason that his agility at his

1766
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:17.039
<v Speaker 1>speed was so good compared to previous tight ends was

1767
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:20.079
<v Speaker 1>because there's not as much Kenyan Sadik as there was

1768
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>say a Michael Mayer or a Rob Gronkowski. This is

1769
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>not a large tight end now, We saw that that

1770
01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of worked out for Aronde against in the second

1771
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>last year with Los Angeles, and perhaps it can work

1772
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>out for Sadiq this year, but or over the course

1773
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>of his career, I should say, but in regards to Sadik,

1774
01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>do we need to prep ourselves now that if we

1775
01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:43.199
<v Speaker 1>draft him, we have to understand that this guy may

1776
01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:46.119
<v Speaker 1>not be in every down tight end at the next level.

1777
01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:48.359
<v Speaker 1>He may not be the type of guy that can

1778
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:50.399
<v Speaker 1>get out there and run block when he needs. I

1779
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.359
<v Speaker 1>know he's a good blocker, but when he's blocking these other, bigger,

1780
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>more physical athletes in the NFL than what he was

1781
01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:00.439
<v Speaker 1>facing in the Big Ten, I do think that there's

1782
01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:02.159
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a learning curve here, and maybe

1783
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 1>a learning curve that his body just will never be

1784
01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:07.199
<v Speaker 1>built for. I don't question the fact that he could

1785
01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:10.159
<v Speaker 1>be successful at the next level. What I do question

1786
01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>is him being able to do it and being on

1787
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the field as much as we would like him to

1788
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.079
<v Speaker 1>be given his expected draft capital in FFPC rookie drafts.

1789
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>How oft am I or how on am I? In

1790
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>regards to the Sadik size and perhaps some other warning

1791
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:26.079
<v Speaker 1>signs about him, Shane.

1792
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.479
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a fair point, and it's why to me,

1793
01:29:29.640 --> 01:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Sidiq is much more. It's much important what the situation

1794
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>looks like. You know, if he's drafted to a place

1795
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>that has a tight end established, as he goes to

1796
01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:43.239
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco and George Kittle's there short term, then you

1797
01:29:43.319 --> 01:29:45.760
<v Speaker 2>know he's not probably not going to get on the field.

1798
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:47.159
<v Speaker 2>You know you're going to play him in the slot.

1799
01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>It's almost the Kyle Pitt's type of situation where we

1800
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:52.319
<v Speaker 2>know what the talent is, we know what he can

1801
01:29:52.359 --> 01:29:55.399
<v Speaker 2>do as a receiver and as an athlete, but playing

1802
01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Sadek in line is almost malpractice because you know, one

1803
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 2>on block NFL edge rushers and uh the edge rushers

1804
01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>aren't gonna buy that he's blocking them. So, you know,

1805
01:30:07.039 --> 01:30:10.359
<v Speaker 2>I think Sidiq has that ability more so than an

1806
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Ronde Gadsden, for example, as a player that could place

1807
01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>them in line, that could do some blocking. I think

1808
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:18.199
<v Speaker 2>the techniques there, you know, but sideiq is is best

1809
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:20.720
<v Speaker 2>in the red zone. I'm not even one hundred percent

1810
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:22.279
<v Speaker 2>sure he was the best tight end on his team,

1811
01:30:22.800 --> 01:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>which is a question. So twenty twenty seven Jamary Johnson,

1812
01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know who it was two fifty seven, and

1813
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, has the tight end profile, and Oregon kind

1814
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:34.159
<v Speaker 2>of was leaning on him a little bit more later

1815
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>in the season when they needed someone on the field

1816
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>for the run game. So, you know, I think sidiq

1817
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>is could be a boon for fantasy because that it's

1818
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>a nice thing about these top two tight ends, Like

1819
01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>if you are drafting them as a team, you're drafting

1820
01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>them to catch the football and so that's at least

1821
01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:52.439
<v Speaker 2>what we can get with Sadik. But I do think

1822
01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>there should be some trepidation over playing time as a

1823
01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:59.880
<v Speaker 2>rookie if the situation offers another tight end that that's

1824
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>going to block. The nice thing that we have seen

1825
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the past two years is teams moving to more twelve

1826
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>or thirteen personnel teams, Like you know, they are figuring

1827
01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>out that having a tight end in the slot works well,

1828
01:31:12.439 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>and that might be a benefit now than it was

1829
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:18.199
<v Speaker 2>three four years ago. You know, when Pitts was a rookie,

1830
01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:20.319
<v Speaker 2>even though we had such a good rookie year, but

1831
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>we saw him get off the field. I think Sadik

1832
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>at least could is more than likely going to go

1833
01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to a team that's willing to use two tight ends

1834
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and Sadeqk's going to be the one catching passes.

1835
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no questioning his athleticism and how good, how

1836
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:35.319
<v Speaker 1>agile he is. In fact, if we were to look

1837
01:31:35.359 --> 01:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>at his impressive combine performance and compare it to other

1838
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>great combine performances, we'd have to go all the way

1839
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:45.159
<v Speaker 1>back to twenty twenty six to see what Eli Stowers did.

1840
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>He was unbelievable as well. In fact, some of the

1841
01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:51.039
<v Speaker 1>stuff that Sadik did, Stowars did even better. And I

1842
01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>think they're roughly the same weight. I think Stowars has

1843
01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>like what three inches maybe on him, three four inches

1844
01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.479
<v Speaker 1>on Sadiq. But this is a guy and I've been

1845
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:01.479
<v Speaker 1>hearing this more and more over the course of the

1846
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:05.159
<v Speaker 1>last month. And again maybe this is people, you know,

1847
01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:07.439
<v Speaker 1>just because we don't have a whole lot going on

1848
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>right now and we're trying to come up with new narratives.

1849
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:12.199
<v Speaker 1>But I have heard people say that they like Star

1850
01:32:12.239 --> 01:32:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Wars better at the next level than Kenyan Sneak, which

1851
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>could prove to be true. But there are some red

1852
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:22.159
<v Speaker 1>flags with Stours as well. What are some of those

1853
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and who do you think is more successful at the

1854
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>next level? Shane, would you have Stours as your number

1855
01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>one tight end over Kenya Seek.

1856
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm try and go quite that far, but I'm definitely

1857
01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>a Stours fan. You know, this is a four star

1858
01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>quarterback coming into college football who ended up moving to

1859
01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:45.359
<v Speaker 2>tight end, transferring way down, ends up settling at Vanderbilt

1860
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the last two years. We have a profile coming out

1861
01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>on him either tomorrow or early next week. And I

1862
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:55.720
<v Speaker 2>did the film study and Diego Pavia was this quarterback

1863
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>runner up in the Heisman. I was amazed at how

1864
01:32:58.680 --> 01:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>much Diego Pavia could not hit Eli Stone, like Eli

1865
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Stowers was making these crazy catches in the open field

1866
01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>that it shouldn't have happened, you know. So like from

1867
01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>a a perspective of value, like I'm probably gonna draft

1868
01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>more Stours in rookie drafts, right instead of spending a

1869
01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:17.479
<v Speaker 2>top five FFPC rookie pick on Sadik, I can move

1870
01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:20.359
<v Speaker 2>down to the late first and take Stours. I don't

1871
01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:23.840
<v Speaker 2>think the difference is enough for fantasy. I do think

1872
01:33:23.880 --> 01:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Sidik is more polished, certainly as a blocker. I think

1873
01:33:26.680 --> 01:33:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Sidik is more polished as in terms of a mover

1874
01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>and the different routes that he has, especially in the

1875
01:33:31.680 --> 01:33:35.159
<v Speaker 2>red zone. But I think Stowars has that potential and

1876
01:33:35.279 --> 01:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>because of you know, the QB conversion situation is still

1877
01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit wrong when we talk about room to grow,

1878
01:33:42.640 --> 01:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I think Stowers has that room to grow. I think Sadiq,

1879
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, could we kind of know what he is

1880
01:33:47.239 --> 01:33:50.239
<v Speaker 2>and has that elite potential. But I think Stowers could

1881
01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:53.359
<v Speaker 2>turn into an elite pass catcher in and Rondez Gasden

1882
01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>type of role. That's what you're gonna have stours do.

1883
01:33:57.680 --> 01:34:02.319
<v Speaker 1>The wide receiver and tight end portion of Shane Hallum's

1884
01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>analysis tonight is now complete, but we're not going to

1885
01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:08.720
<v Speaker 1>let Shane go gently into that good night quite yet,

1886
01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>because we do have to pick his brain on Jeremiah Love,

1887
01:34:11.760 --> 01:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>who the who his number two running back is in

1888
01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:17.119
<v Speaker 1>this class, plus so much more. He's Shane Hallum, draft

1889
01:34:17.199 --> 01:34:19.479
<v Speaker 1>expert from Draft sharks dot Com at Shane P.

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01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Hallum on X.

1891
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<v Speaker 1>Don't go anywhere, because when we come back, we'll not

1892
01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>only be talking about those players, but we'll get into

1893
01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson as well. You are watching

1894
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1895
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<v Speaker 1>We are coming into the home stretch of the final

1919
01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>portion of the FFPC Insider Access Show this evening. Shane

1920
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>hallin from Draft Sharks joining me Eric Baltman here talking

1921
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>FFPC rookie drafts NFL rookies. And I think if there's

1922
01:37:23.399 --> 01:37:25.720
<v Speaker 1>one name, Shane that has come up over and over

1923
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:28.479
<v Speaker 1>and over again with this year's rookie class, it is

1924
01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the Notre Dame Rushier, Jeremiah Love. We don't have to

1925
01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:33.479
<v Speaker 1>spend a whole lot of time talking about him, because

1926
01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:35.880
<v Speaker 1>what can we say that hasn't already been said? What

1927
01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I will post to you is this, If Love is

1928
01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to bust at the NFL, why is it? What would

1929
01:37:42.399 --> 01:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>cause him to bust? If he does have any red flags?

1930
01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>What are they? What don't you like about Jeremiah Love?

1931
01:37:48.840 --> 01:37:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

1932
01:37:50.800 --> 01:37:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing, and we highlighted this and

1933
01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the profile up at Draft Sharks, you know when I

1934
01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:58.479
<v Speaker 2>did the film, part portion of that was his vision's

1935
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.600
<v Speaker 2>just slightly inconsistent. And I think if there's one thing

1936
01:38:02.159 --> 01:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>that's going to cause him to be a bust. I

1937
01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think it will happen. Would be he goes to

1938
01:38:07.640 --> 01:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>a place with a subpar offensive line and Love's vision

1939
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.880
<v Speaker 2>isn't enough to overcome that. You know a lot of

1940
01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:17.119
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of plays where he is running

1941
01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:20.199
<v Speaker 2>to where you know he's if it's an off tackle play,

1942
01:38:20.199 --> 01:38:23.119
<v Speaker 2>he's running off tackle. He's not looking for that cutback lane,

1943
01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:25.840
<v Speaker 2>he's not hitting it, or you know, he's just going

1944
01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>where the play is supposed to go and missing maybe

1945
01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>bigger plays there. I think in the NFL, if you

1946
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>have a week offensive line, I think we saw with

1947
01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Ashton gent last year at times, you know a week

1948
01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:37.199
<v Speaker 2>offensive line and you have some of those vision limitations.

1949
01:38:37.319 --> 01:38:39.600
<v Speaker 2>That's like the one thing it can sometimes be tough

1950
01:38:39.680 --> 01:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>to overcome that blocking. Whereas you know Adrian Peterson, one

1951
01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:46.279
<v Speaker 2>of the best running backs of all timer I had

1952
01:38:46.359 --> 01:38:49.359
<v Speaker 2>great vision and he could overcome a bad offensive line

1953
01:38:49.399 --> 01:38:52.119
<v Speaker 2>because he'd always find wherever there was a whole, he

1954
01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:54.439
<v Speaker 2>could find it and get there. I don't think Jeremiah

1955
01:38:54.439 --> 01:38:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Love has that type of ability.

1956
01:38:56.960 --> 01:38:59.119
<v Speaker 1>All the teams you mentioned in the first hour, Titans

1957
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Commander's Giant. If you had the one on one chain

1958
01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and you were dead set on taking Love, which team

1959
01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:07.159
<v Speaker 1>would you want him to go to out of those

1960
01:39:07.239 --> 01:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>three that would maximize his fantasy potential?

1961
01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I think I think I'll have a little bit of downside.

1962
01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I kind of lean Titans because you know, I always

1963
01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:21.039
<v Speaker 2>worry about a running back with a rushing quarterback. I

1964
01:39:21.079 --> 01:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>think Jackson Dart and Jane Daniels are probably more rushing

1965
01:39:24.119 --> 01:39:26.520
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks than Kim Ward is, though he is a little

1966
01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>bit too, But you know, I think there's more downside

1967
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:32.560
<v Speaker 2>for that offense as a whole. You know, Washington's probably

1968
01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the safest bet, you know, but I don't think. I

1969
01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:38.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think landing spot matters for Love. Someone's taking him

1970
01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:40.119
<v Speaker 2>in the top ten. He's He's the one on one

1971
01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>in every format for me, even at super Flex. Yes,

1972
01:39:44.359 --> 01:39:46.359
<v Speaker 2>though you can make an argument depending on your team,

1973
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to take Mendoza over Love. I'm taking Love one on

1974
01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:51.159
<v Speaker 2>one in the super Flex League.

1975
01:39:51.600 --> 01:39:56.399
<v Speaker 1>If you're if your three quarterbacks were cam Ward, Aaron Rodgers,

1976
01:39:56.479 --> 01:39:58.439
<v Speaker 1>and Justin Fields and you have the one on one,

1977
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>would you take Doza over Love?

1978
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe? Yeah, you know, I think it depends on really

1979
01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:11.439
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven. You know, like like that league where

1980
01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:12.960
<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of twenty twenty seven picks. I'm going

1981
01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.439
<v Speaker 2>to take Love one on one, and my quarterbacks will

1982
01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:17.720
<v Speaker 2>still stink. And you know I'll worry about that in

1983
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a year.

1984
01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, that's that's a problem for future you right right.

1985
01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>The list of potential number two running backs in this

1986
01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>draft goes on and on. Shane, I've heard Washington, I've

1987
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:37.079
<v Speaker 1>heard Johnson, I've heard Price, I've heard Coleman. There was

1988
01:40:37.119 --> 01:40:38.840
<v Speaker 1>a time I'm old enough to remember when it was

1989
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Nick Singleton was the number two in this class too.

1990
01:40:42.159 --> 01:40:45.720
<v Speaker 1>As a DeBie player, you probably know even better than me.

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01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:50.159
<v Speaker 1>Who is your number two running back right now in

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01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>this class?

1993
01:40:52.439 --> 01:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>It's Genarian Price, the other Notre Dame running back Jeremi

1994
01:40:56.319 --> 01:41:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Loves teammate. I think being Jeremi Love's teammate does have

1995
01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:04.720
<v Speaker 2>some red flags to it. Where Jerring Price, he wasn't

1996
01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:07.119
<v Speaker 2>used as a receiver at all. And this is where

1997
01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, film and then even the work

1998
01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:13.760
<v Speaker 2>at the combine, the drills are important. Jenerium Price looks

1999
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:17.880
<v Speaker 2>like a natural pass catcher. I'm sure, Bulky you remember

2000
01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Taylor and the narratives around his past catching and

2001
01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:23.039
<v Speaker 2>then the combine. I was like, he looks like one

2002
01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:25.720
<v Speaker 2>of the best pass catchers in this draft, and he

2003
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:28.079
<v Speaker 2>was right, but that's what knocked him. I think Price

2004
01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:31.479
<v Speaker 2>has that. You know, it's such a smooth mover. He's tough,

2005
01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:34.640
<v Speaker 2>really low pad level, has some home run ability, even

2006
01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>though you know Love's not. He's a four or five

2007
01:41:38.680 --> 01:41:42.520
<v Speaker 2>speed player. He's not maybe the quickest, so he's doesn't

2008
01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:45.279
<v Speaker 2>have this elite athleticism like a Mike Washington. But I

2009
01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>think Price has that combination that can work. We've now

2010
01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:52.000
<v Speaker 2>seen two big time mock draft smel Kiper and Daniel

2011
01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Jeremiah with jeneriing Price in round one. Again, to me,

2012
01:41:55.399 --> 01:41:57.319
<v Speaker 2>he tells you how bad the twenty twenty six classes

2013
01:41:57.319 --> 01:41:59.159
<v Speaker 2>as a whole. Jenering Price is getting into the first

2014
01:41:59.239 --> 01:42:01.479
<v Speaker 2>round of the NFL draft, but that's not out of

2015
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:02.399
<v Speaker 2>their own possibility.

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01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you have do you in your mock draft? Do

2017
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you just have Love in the first round?

2018
01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It just love for me. I think Price will

2019
01:42:10.560 --> 01:42:14.159
<v Speaker 2>be a top fifty pick and I We'll see where

2020
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>these other running backs land after that.

2021
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how many running backs do you think if Love

2022
01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:22.199
<v Speaker 1>is the only one on day one. How many running

2023
01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:23.760
<v Speaker 1>backs get drafted on day two?

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01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I I mean, I'll probably I would probably bet on four.

2025
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:35.319
<v Speaker 2>My gut tells me three. Uh and I but I

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01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:37.439
<v Speaker 2>like the Penn State guys enough that I want to

2027
01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:41.159
<v Speaker 2>believe there's a chance, But I feel like it'll be

2028
01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:42.640
<v Speaker 2>less than we want.

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01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about Washington Huskies before. I think Joan

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01:42:47.680 --> 01:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>of Coleman played in Arizona right before transferring to Washington.

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01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Am I making that up? Or did that happen?

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01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Correct?

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01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, good, I'm not losing it. Coleman is

2034
01:42:56.920 --> 01:42:59.399
<v Speaker 1>a guy that you do not put in front of Price.

2035
01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>You have in front of Coleman. But certainly Coleman, with

2036
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>his size and his chops in the backfield, there there

2037
01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:10.159
<v Speaker 1>is there are some some really good traits to like

2038
01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:12.439
<v Speaker 1>with Coleman, and ultimately I think he could be really

2039
01:43:12.520 --> 01:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>successful at the next level if he is paired in

2040
01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the right sort of tandem. I don't think he'll ever

2041
01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>be a Bellkow. But perhaps you think that there is

2042
01:43:20.880 --> 01:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that ceiling for Coleman.

2043
01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that ceiling exists short term. You know, I

2044
01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:29.039
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's ever gonna I don't think Jonah Coleman's

2045
01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:31.399
<v Speaker 2>ever going to be a top five NFL running back

2046
01:43:31.479 --> 01:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>that you're like, Wow, this guy's you know, on that

2047
01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Saquon Barkley level. Like Jonah Coleman. You go back to

2048
01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:39.039
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and watch this film and I think

2049
01:43:39.079 --> 01:43:41.720
<v Speaker 2>you see a player that's more explosive, that's a little

2050
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, a little more athletic in short space, and

2051
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>like last year was just just a touch slower a touch.

2052
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure why, and that's that's kind of my

2053
01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:55.399
<v Speaker 2>big question. But still, you know, the size, the cutting ability.

2054
01:43:55.880 --> 01:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, he doesn't fumble, he does everything right, the

2055
01:43:58.039 --> 01:44:02.359
<v Speaker 2>technique's good, the vision solid. Like he's an NFL contributing

2056
01:44:02.399 --> 01:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>He's a one bee that is going to get a

2057
01:44:05.039 --> 01:44:07.439
<v Speaker 2>good amount of carries and I think produced with those carries.

2058
01:44:07.760 --> 01:44:11.119
<v Speaker 2>He just needs that chance. So I like Coleman. I

2059
01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>think situation is more important for him than maybe the

2060
01:44:14.680 --> 01:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>other backs in this range.

2061
01:44:16.399 --> 01:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>The decision by Emma Johnson to do everything at the combine.

2062
01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he was the only who did the three

2063
01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>cone the only running back right that did the three

2064
01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:30.439
<v Speaker 1>cone drop. And he was being lauded by a lot

2065
01:44:30.520 --> 01:44:34.159
<v Speaker 1>of people in the fantasy football industry that he was,

2066
01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were happy to see him go out there.

2067
01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:38.159
<v Speaker 1>It shows that he wants to compete, that he was

2068
01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:41.159
<v Speaker 1>doing everything, which I think is kind of nice in

2069
01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a vacuum. But ultimately, if I'm looking at these guys,

2070
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I just assume they have that killer instinct. I just

2071
01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.359
<v Speaker 1>assume that all these guys want to compete. And if

2072
01:44:49.399 --> 01:44:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm Emma Johnson and I know doing the three cone

2073
01:44:52.079 --> 01:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>and the forty is gonna hurt me, I ain't doing it,

2074
01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'll let teams figure it out themselves. So I

2075
01:44:57.199 --> 01:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was kind of disappointed. I guess maybe I was more

2076
01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:02.039
<v Speaker 1>dis pointed, not in his decision to do all these

2077
01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>but the actual execution of it, which turned out bad.

2078
01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Because I was kind of high on Emma Johnson until

2079
01:45:07.159 --> 01:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I saw what he did at the Combine, and now

2080
01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not nearly as high. And some of these, you know,

2081
01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of the other guys Coleman and Price will

2082
01:45:13.600 --> 01:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about Washington in a second. I actually like a

2083
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:19.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. Johnson looked pretty good in the Big

2084
01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Tent last year, and now I'm wondering if he does

2085
01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:24.760
<v Speaker 1>have the chops to succeed on the next level. Shane,

2086
01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:27.119
<v Speaker 1>where do you have Emma Johnson among your running backs.

2087
01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think for me, he kind of

2088
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:34.119
<v Speaker 2>sits in that RB four A range. I have him

2089
01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:37.520
<v Speaker 2>above Washington, And you know, I think Johnson is an

2090
01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:41.640
<v Speaker 2>elite pass catcher, and I think NFL teams now have

2091
01:45:42.079 --> 01:45:44.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot more tools at their disposal. So you know,

2092
01:45:44.479 --> 01:45:46.840
<v Speaker 2>if you remember gunner Helm last year at the combine,

2093
01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>was injured and did everything anyway, and like you look

2094
01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:51.880
<v Speaker 2>at his RADS score and it's deep red and it's

2095
01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:55.319
<v Speaker 2>like this guy stinks. Right, But teams now you know

2096
01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you have film, you have GPS tracking on that film,

2097
01:45:57.880 --> 01:45:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot of things you can do to

2098
01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.039
<v Speaker 2>check the numbers and see what you want to do.

2099
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I think Emma Johnson, you know, I think competing is

2100
01:46:05.720 --> 01:46:07.760
<v Speaker 2>good for him. But he is small and he is

2101
01:46:08.159 --> 01:46:11.880
<v Speaker 2>slow for that size. But everything else to me is

2102
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.239
<v Speaker 2>like really good. This is probably the best catching, pass

2103
01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:17.279
<v Speaker 2>catching running back in the class. He's a really good

2104
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:20.760
<v Speaker 2>just rhythm runner, Like the patter of his feet moved

2105
01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:22.159
<v Speaker 2>to kind of a style where he can make that

2106
01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:24.720
<v Speaker 2>shift and it's a lot more consistent. He's not like

2107
01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:27.560
<v Speaker 2>this herky, jerky, you know, an open space guy, and

2108
01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it makes some really tough to bring down and get

2109
01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a clean hit on him, which I always like. Knows

2110
01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.239
<v Speaker 2>how to kind of set up the second level. Takes

2111
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>good angles watching his film like this could be the

2112
01:46:38.680 --> 01:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>RB two in the class if he was a little

2113
01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:43.199
<v Speaker 2>bit more athletic, you know, if we saw this for

2114
01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>multiple years. So it definitely holds me back. I think

2115
01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Emma Johnson, I like for fantasy more than reality. Even

2116
01:46:51.239 --> 01:46:53.520
<v Speaker 2>because of the pass catching, I just think he's gonna

2117
01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:55.279
<v Speaker 2>be hard to keep off the field. I think you're

2118
01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:57.199
<v Speaker 2>at least gonna get some receiving out of him.

2119
01:46:57.479 --> 01:46:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is great. We love that. We love pass

2120
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:02.239
<v Speaker 1>catching run. I'm willing to look the other way on

2121
01:47:02.359 --> 01:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff when it comes to pass catching.

2122
01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Running backs. Mike Washington Junior was probably the biggest winner

2123
01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>at the running back position at the Combine athletically. I mean,

2124
01:47:12.079 --> 01:47:14.920
<v Speaker 1>his speed score was unbelievable. What he was able to

2125
01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.199
<v Speaker 1>do at his weight and getting that body that size

2126
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to move that fast was pretty awesome. I know he's

2127
01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:24.359
<v Speaker 1>dealt with some injuries before. I saw some people Shane

2128
01:47:24.760 --> 01:47:27.600
<v Speaker 1>moving him up to their running back two in the class.

2129
01:47:27.640 --> 01:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Now we know you didn't do that, but at the

2130
01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>same time. Where was he? Was he a Day three

2131
01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:34.760
<v Speaker 1>pick for you prior to the Combine and it's now

2132
01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>day two? Or did you not bump him up as much.

2133
01:47:38.680 --> 01:47:40.359
<v Speaker 2>After the Senior Bowl had him as a Day two

2134
01:47:40.399 --> 01:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>pick in round three? And so this maybe his athleticisms

2135
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:48.079
<v Speaker 2>was better than I expected. I mean, how could it

2136
01:47:48.159 --> 01:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>not have been? But I gin guess we expected something

2137
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:53.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. So I could see Washington being the third

2138
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:56.800
<v Speaker 2>running back off the board after Love and Price, you know,

2139
01:47:57.680 --> 01:47:59.720
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I went back. I tweeted kind of

2140
01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a threat about this when I was working on the

2141
01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.600
<v Speaker 2>film article for draft shirts for what Mike Washington went

2142
01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>back to his new Mexico State tape and watched him

2143
01:48:07.640 --> 01:48:10.039
<v Speaker 2>and it's like it's like a completely different player, you know,

2144
01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:12.359
<v Speaker 2>two years ago, and no idea what he's looking for

2145
01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:15.520
<v Speaker 2>in a hole, no idea you know how to how

2146
01:48:15.560 --> 01:48:18.039
<v Speaker 2>to kind of shift and make a cut behind the

2147
01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:21.039
<v Speaker 2>line to get the most out of that explosion. He'd

2148
01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>slow down a lot to make a cut. Well, you know,

2149
01:48:25.479 --> 01:48:28.199
<v Speaker 2>in the fumbles have carried on through this year. And

2150
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>then you watch him in Arkansas against the SEC, and

2151
01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:33.640
<v Speaker 2>you see a player that clearly got much better coaching

2152
01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>at the running back position and what to look for

2153
01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:37.640
<v Speaker 2>and how to make a cut and what the what

2154
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:40.279
<v Speaker 2>your feet are supposed to do. So to me, that

2155
01:48:40.359 --> 01:48:42.439
<v Speaker 2>bodes well. I mean you see the improvement from him. Yeah,

2156
01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:44.840
<v Speaker 2>he's older, he's only had one year of development. I

2157
01:48:44.880 --> 01:48:46.359
<v Speaker 2>think it's a red flag. I think you got to

2158
01:48:46.399 --> 01:48:48.399
<v Speaker 2>be worried. You know, he is a receiver in high school.

2159
01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I think the receiving chops come out despite the size.

2160
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot to like that power and

2161
01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:55.960
<v Speaker 2>smooth movement. I think the upside is, you know, a

2162
01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>lead running back is an elite running back. I think

2163
01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the downside is a player that can't you'll get on

2164
01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the field that that's more athlete than running back. So

2165
01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:05.640
<v Speaker 2>probably the biggest boom or bust of this running back

2166
01:49:05.640 --> 01:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>class are those.

2167
01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:10.199
<v Speaker 1>The four guys that we just discussed Coleman, Price, Johnson, Washington.

2168
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Are those the four guys if they if you were

2169
01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:15.359
<v Speaker 1>to say four running backs are gonna go on day two?

2170
01:49:15.359 --> 01:49:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Are those of the four that go on day two?

2171
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I think Johnson's on the border and I think

2172
01:49:22.239 --> 01:49:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he could fall out of there, you know why, Like

2173
01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of my guts is three. But those are the

2174
01:49:28.039 --> 01:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>four that I envision.

2175
01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:32.119
<v Speaker 1>All Right, we have to talk We talked about the

2176
01:49:32.199 --> 01:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame guys. We have to talk about the Penn

2177
01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:38.479
<v Speaker 1>State guys here too, because Penn State was such a

2178
01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>wild story this year where Drew Aller comes back, Singleton's

2179
01:49:42.600 --> 01:49:44.680
<v Speaker 1>coming back. You know, they had all these this talent

2180
01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were under they were undefeated. Who do they

2181
01:49:48.640 --> 01:49:50.680
<v Speaker 1>lose to? Is it Indiana? Was that the first loss

2182
01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:54.399
<v Speaker 1>that they had this season? And things just fell apart.

2183
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>James Franklin gets fired. Now he's at Virginia Tech before

2184
01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the college season even ends. As faris Bieler would say,

2185
01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:05.399
<v Speaker 1>things move pretty fast around here. Nick Singleton, you've known

2186
01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:10.159
<v Speaker 1>for years, uh to owning him in Debi what happened

2187
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>to him at Penn State to to lose so much

2188
01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of his prospect shine to the point where now a

2189
01:50:18.279 --> 01:50:20.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of people would even put k Tron Allen above

2190
01:50:20.760 --> 01:50:24.159
<v Speaker 1>him and Shane. The fact that he's got he's dealing

2191
01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:26.760
<v Speaker 1>with a broken foot right now. Is somebody going to

2192
01:50:26.840 --> 01:50:29.119
<v Speaker 1>find a nice little value on him. Some team gonna

2193
01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:31.199
<v Speaker 1>find a nice value on him when it comes to

2194
01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>be the NFL Draft. Knowing that, you know, we don't

2195
01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>know how far along the foot is to being healed,

2196
01:50:36.039 --> 01:50:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and we missed out on a lot of stuff at

2197
01:50:38.680 --> 01:50:42.479
<v Speaker 1>the combine and workouts and stuff after he fractured his

2198
01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>foot at the Senior Bowl.

2199
01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I think that hurts, but I think

2200
01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the NFL and US know he's an elite athlete, is

2201
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:52.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the best athletes of the position. Singleton and

2202
01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Kate Troan Allen couldn't be more different. Singleton was this

2203
01:50:55.479 --> 01:50:59.520
<v Speaker 2>elite athlete, super explosive, the deep speed was there, of

2204
01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the home run threats there, just never could get the

2205
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:06.119
<v Speaker 2>running back position down with you know, the division was

2206
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:08.760
<v Speaker 2>so poor early in his career and he saw like

2207
01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:11.760
<v Speaker 2>slight improvements every year. But I was just waiting for

2208
01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:14.479
<v Speaker 2>the blow up the year that Nick Singleton would become,

2209
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:17.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, a fully well rounded running back. You know,

2210
01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:21.560
<v Speaker 2>in a Penn State system that has some of the

2211
01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:24.920
<v Speaker 2>best training staff in college football. You know, we see

2212
01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:27.239
<v Speaker 2>the elite athletes out of Penn State every year, like,

2213
01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>how do you not develop as a runner? And that's

2214
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.840
<v Speaker 2>what gets me, like, I think I'll have a lot

2215
01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of Nick Singleton and rookie drafts because I'll bet on

2216
01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:40.039
<v Speaker 2>the upside and he's gonna come to me we'll see

2217
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:42.399
<v Speaker 2>what the situations are. But cheaper than a Mike Washington,

2218
01:51:42.520 --> 01:51:44.800
<v Speaker 2>cheaper than you know, Jonah Coleman, And I think the

2219
01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:49.479
<v Speaker 2>upside is above those players. But I never saw an

2220
01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:52.720
<v Speaker 2>NFL running back in terms of the little things, the vision,

2221
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the footwork, the ability to make guys miss just never

2222
01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:58.880
<v Speaker 2>came around. Whereas Kate ron Allen is like the perfect

2223
01:51:59.199 --> 01:52:02.399
<v Speaker 2>technique running back who you know knows knows how to

2224
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>how to get low through the hole and knows how

2225
01:52:04.279 --> 01:52:07.399
<v Speaker 2>to take contact and uh, you know, knows how to

2226
01:52:07.479 --> 01:52:09.560
<v Speaker 2>how to what cutback lanes to look for, how to

2227
01:52:09.600 --> 01:52:13.279
<v Speaker 2>follow zone blocks that Nick Singleton just ignores. But Alan

2228
01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:16.920
<v Speaker 2>just isn't explosive, Like he is so slow off the

2229
01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:19.039
<v Speaker 2>snap that you're like, I don't think this can work

2230
01:52:19.359 --> 01:52:22.039
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. And it's why I still see both

2231
01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:24.319
<v Speaker 2>his Day three picks, like, I think a team in

2232
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:26.560
<v Speaker 2>this weak or twenty twenty six class could take a

2233
01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:29.560
<v Speaker 2>shot on either one in round three, but uh, I

2234
01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:32.720
<v Speaker 2>think both just have these glaring holes out there that

2235
01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:35.359
<v Speaker 2>makes it tough to really see either one as a

2236
01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:38.079
<v Speaker 2>day you know, Day one player contributor in the NFL.

2237
01:52:38.920 --> 01:52:42.439
<v Speaker 1>If only you could combine those and make a Nick

2238
01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Allen or a k Trot Singleton. You'd have somebody competing

2239
01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>with Jeremiah Love to be the number one running back

2240
01:52:48.600 --> 01:52:51.439
<v Speaker 1>drafted this year. Alas we don't have that. We have

2241
01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:54.159
<v Speaker 1>two separate players. If you were to take a shot

2242
01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:57.800
<v Speaker 1>on one of these guys at the next level right now, Shane,

2243
01:52:58.119 --> 01:53:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not knowing where they end up, would you rather put

2244
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:02.159
<v Speaker 1>your chips on Singleton or Alan?

2245
01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:06.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, give me Singleton. I mean I think Alan could

2246
01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:09.680
<v Speaker 2>be fine, could you know, be a nice bench running

2247
01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:13.159
<v Speaker 2>back for you. But like at this point, I mean

2248
01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I would swing for the fences and give me a

2249
01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Nick Singleton if he goes to a good situation, gets

2250
01:53:18.279 --> 01:53:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the playing time, gets the coaching that he could be

2251
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the best running back to come out of this class,

2252
01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>which is saying something when you have Jeremiah Love out there.

2253
01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:28.119
<v Speaker 1>The last running back I want to talk about is

2254
01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:32.479
<v Speaker 1>Demon Claiborne, the Wake Forest product, a guy that I

2255
01:53:32.600 --> 01:53:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was I was drafting in this Super Sunday draft in Louisville,

2256
01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl weekend with a redraft manage league is not

2257
01:53:40.680 --> 01:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>even best ball, and I did see Claiborne go off

2258
01:53:43.319 --> 01:53:45.720
<v Speaker 1>the board in a handful of drafts towards the end,

2259
01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering what you think of him as a pro.

2260
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<v Speaker 1>Is he big enough, is he strong enough? Do enough

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01:53:51.640 --> 01:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>people like him, as Stuart Smalley would say, to be

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01:53:56.039 --> 01:53:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a successful NFL running back. How much of a sleeper

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01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>is Claiborne in this year class shame?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's intriguing. I mean, he's a really

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01:54:03.039 --> 01:54:06.720
<v Speaker 2>good athlete who had the rib injury this year I

2266
01:54:06.800 --> 01:54:09.399
<v Speaker 2>think kind of capped him. The wake Forest offense wasn't

2267
01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:11.560
<v Speaker 2>as good two years ago. You see that kind of

2268
01:54:11.560 --> 01:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>speed demon shiftiness in the open field that can have

2269
01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:16.560
<v Speaker 2>a role in the NFL. I mean, I think Claiborne

2270
01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>is probably gonna make his bones as a return guy.

2271
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:21.199
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna be kind of the first thing, and then

2272
01:54:21.439 --> 01:54:23.439
<v Speaker 2>he can be kind of a third down running back.

2273
01:54:23.960 --> 01:54:27.079
<v Speaker 2>He gets tackled too easily. He's you know a little

2274
01:54:27.159 --> 01:54:29.920
<v Speaker 2>more always trying to make the big play and sometimes

2275
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:32.720
<v Speaker 2>gets some caught and because he can't really break a tackle,

2276
01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:36.479
<v Speaker 2>it goes poorly for him. So I definitely see him

2277
01:54:36.479 --> 01:54:38.960
<v Speaker 2>as more of a number two running back in the league.

2278
01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But he could have you know, big run and it's

2279
01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:44.119
<v Speaker 2>seventy yard touchdown here and there. That makes you say, oh,

2280
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:46.199
<v Speaker 2>he's a guy should have, you know, on the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on to quarterbacks, as we wrap up the running

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01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:54.720
<v Speaker 1>back conversation, Bernanda Mendoz is an interesting player because a

2283
01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:57.640
<v Speaker 1>not interesting player. Well, he is an interesting player, but

2284
01:54:57.720 --> 01:55:00.439
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing about the situation is very interesting and

2285
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:04.119
<v Speaker 1>interesting in a good way. He's probably gonna be selected

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01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:06.319
<v Speaker 1>number one. He's gonna go to the Raiders. They have

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01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Clint Kubiak, who I think is a really smart offensive

2288
01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:13.880
<v Speaker 1>guy who knows how to scheme his players up to

2289
01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:16.960
<v Speaker 1>play to their strengths, which I think is a feather

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01:55:17.079 --> 01:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>in Mendoza's cap. He's gonna have genty behind him. He's

2291
01:55:20.640 --> 01:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna have an improved and healthier offensive line in front

2292
01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of him. Rock Bauers obviously on this team. Jalen Naylor's

2293
01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>there as well. We'll see what Jack Besh does in

2294
01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:32.279
<v Speaker 1>his second year, so he's got some things to work

2295
01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>with there in Las Vegas. I think what's interesting is,

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01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:41.039
<v Speaker 1>at least the reporting that I'm seeing is that the

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01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Raiders don't want to start him week one. They want

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01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:47.359
<v Speaker 1>some veteran to kind of start over him and then

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01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:49.560
<v Speaker 1>ease Mendoza, in which I think is the right way

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01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to do it. My question for you is, even though

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01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:55.359
<v Speaker 1>he is going to be the number one overall pick

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01:55:55.439 --> 01:55:58.199
<v Speaker 1>and he won the Heisman and he was the National

2303
01:55:58.319 --> 01:56:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Championship quarterback and all these things, how good of a

2304
01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>pro is he going to be? Like? What? What's his

2305
01:56:03.720 --> 01:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>ceiling at the next level. I've heard a lot of

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01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff comparisons, which I think is fine, but at

2307
01:56:10.279 --> 01:56:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the one on one I would I would hope for more,

2308
01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:14.840
<v Speaker 1>something more dynamic than that. At the peak of his

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01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:17.640
<v Speaker 1>powers in the NFL shape, what's Mendoza going to be?

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01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh So?

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01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:22.479
<v Speaker 2>So my compent a rookie guide, I think is it

2312
01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:25.800
<v Speaker 2>was Eli Manning with some rush rushing ability, you know,

2313
01:56:25.920 --> 01:56:29.199
<v Speaker 2>tossed in some scrambling ability tossed in which I think

2314
01:56:29.239 --> 01:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>is better than Jared Goff, but still probably more than

2315
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:34.279
<v Speaker 2>more than you want with with the one on one right,

2316
01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what Mendoz is going to be. Like,

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01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm with you. I think a situation's perfect

2318
01:56:39.199 --> 01:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Kubiak offense allows a quarterback to to really be in timing,

2319
01:56:44.880 --> 01:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, be able to get those throws out, and

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01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Mendoz is accurate enough to I think to hit that

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01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and do that. He's going to have the offensive line upgrade.

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01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna have brock Bowers, he's gonna have Ashton Gent

2323
01:56:54.039 --> 01:56:56.039
<v Speaker 2>to lean on. That run game. Kubiak is always going

2324
01:56:56.079 --> 01:56:58.000
<v Speaker 2>to be run first. I think all this works. I

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01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:01.640
<v Speaker 2>think where Mendoza falters is under pressure, and there just

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01:57:01.760 --> 01:57:03.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a ton of that because of the RPOs and

2327
01:57:03.960 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 2>the timing rounds that they had in Indiana. But when

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01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:08.760
<v Speaker 2>he did get pressured in the Big Ten Championship against

2329
01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, for example, you know that that's where he struggled.

2330
01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:13.239
<v Speaker 2>And there's times he put on the Superman cape and

2331
01:57:13.319 --> 01:57:16.159
<v Speaker 2>and and made a great throw under pressure and it worked.

2332
01:57:16.199 --> 01:57:18.159
<v Speaker 2>And so I think you see those flashes, but I

2333
01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:20.239
<v Speaker 2>think it's going to take some time for him to

2334
01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:22.399
<v Speaker 2>do that. It's great to want to start a veteran.

2335
01:57:23.039 --> 01:57:25.239
<v Speaker 2>There's not a veteran on the market I think is

2336
01:57:25.279 --> 01:57:27.520
<v Speaker 2>going to compete with Mendoza in camp and and the

2337
01:57:27.560 --> 01:57:30.960
<v Speaker 2>whole team's gonna say, you gotta, you gotta start this year.

2338
01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.000
<v Speaker 2>They gotta start Mendoza, like he's so much better. Right,

2339
01:57:33.079 --> 01:57:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you know you're gonna lose the team if you don't

2340
01:57:34.760 --> 01:57:37.520
<v Speaker 2>start the best quarterback so I think he'll be good.

2341
01:57:37.600 --> 01:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's going to be great.

2342
01:57:47.279 --> 01:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh do we lose Shane. We may have lost Shane,

2343
01:57:50.520 --> 01:57:51.119
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's me.

2344
01:57:53.279 --> 01:57:55.560
<v Speaker 2>He's still hearing you go out there, we go, You're back,

2345
01:57:55.680 --> 01:57:59.159
<v Speaker 2>You're back, We're we're both turning there.

2346
01:57:59.319 --> 01:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>All right. Sorry, good, not great, is what I'm hearing

2347
01:58:01.960 --> 01:58:05.319
<v Speaker 1>from you, Shane, And for at least from fantasy. Yeah,

2348
01:58:05.600 --> 01:58:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a capped up side with Mendoza. You know,

2349
01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:10.439
<v Speaker 1>people trying to call the Joe Burrow. I mean, Joe

2350
01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Burrow was elite in that season at LSU. I mean,

2351
01:58:13.760 --> 01:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>under pressure, every throw was incredible. Like Mendoza is not that.

2352
01:58:18.600 --> 01:58:21.399
<v Speaker 1>But I think he has the traits to be, you know,

2353
01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to be in the Brock Purty tier of quarterback where

2354
01:58:25.239 --> 01:58:27.760
<v Speaker 1>he could be a top twelve quarter fantasy quarterback. But

2355
01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:32.039
<v Speaker 1>you just you're not gonna get the number one scorer.

2356
01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Ever.

2357
01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.039
<v Speaker 1>The only other quarterback I'll bring up is Ty Simpson.

2358
01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm very concerned about his lack of collegiate experience and

2359
01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:44.399
<v Speaker 1>now when he gets to the next level, I hope

2360
01:58:44.439 --> 01:58:46.880
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't land with a team that's gonna throw him

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01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:48.920
<v Speaker 1>into the fire right away. This is what I would

2362
01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:51.199
<v Speaker 1>have loved if the Rams would have kept that extra

2363
01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:53.880
<v Speaker 1>first round pick to draft him and let him marinate

2364
01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:57.479
<v Speaker 1>behind Matthew Stafford. And now I just fear like this

2365
01:58:57.680 --> 01:58:59.920
<v Speaker 1>guy is not going to be given a proper chance

2366
01:59:00.039 --> 01:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>at the next level. If he was, and if he did,

2367
01:59:03.359 --> 01:59:05.880
<v Speaker 1>certainly I think there's some upside there. I just I

2368
01:59:05.920 --> 01:59:07.760
<v Speaker 1>guess I don't know how much. How would you rate

2369
01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Ty Simpson as far as how well, how good of

2370
01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:11.680
<v Speaker 1>a pro career you think he's going to have.

2371
01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I'm concerned over the last ten years,

2372
01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:18.239
<v Speaker 2>first round quarterbacks with fifteen or fewer starts, Anthony Richardson,

2373
01:59:18.600 --> 01:59:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Mitch Trubisky, Dwayne Haskins. That's the list that's not good.

2374
01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:24.840
<v Speaker 2>That's not a good list to be on right now.

2375
01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I think Tysons is very different from saying Anthony Richardson

2376
01:59:28.439 --> 01:59:29.840
<v Speaker 2>or one of those type of players, Like what ty

2377
01:59:29.880 --> 01:59:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Simpson's good at. His dad is the head coach at

2378
01:59:32.079 --> 01:59:34.840
<v Speaker 2>UC Davis for twenty years. Like tysubs has probably had

2379
01:59:34.880 --> 01:59:37.680
<v Speaker 2>a QB coach when he was four. You know, his technique,

2380
01:59:37.680 --> 01:59:41.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, his footwork is excellent. He but just the

2381
01:59:41.520 --> 01:59:44.960
<v Speaker 2>decision making and the arm strength isn't there, you know,

2382
01:59:45.079 --> 01:59:47.600
<v Speaker 2>and so when to me, like you look at a

2383
01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:50.439
<v Speaker 2>guy like Cole Payton from North Dakota State, a quarterback

2384
01:59:50.479 --> 01:59:52.920
<v Speaker 2>in this class who is footwork's all over the place,

2385
01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:55.319
<v Speaker 2>but his arm is stronger than Simpson. If I clean

2386
01:59:55.399 --> 01:59:57.239
<v Speaker 2>up that footwork, that arm gets a little bit stronger.

2387
01:59:57.520 --> 01:59:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Simpson's capped out in a lot of those places.

2388
02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:02.039
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't have the experience I think to make the

2389
02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:03.880
<v Speaker 2>right decisions and get the ball in the right place.

2390
02:00:04.199 --> 02:00:06.479
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of fear. I think if it's

2391
02:00:06.520 --> 02:00:08.600
<v Speaker 2>better for Simpson to go in around two, you know,

2392
02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:12.640
<v Speaker 2>to get that and I don't think I haven't rated

2393
02:00:12.800 --> 02:00:15.239
<v Speaker 2>currently as a late second round pick. I mean, he's

2394
02:00:15.239 --> 02:00:17.760
<v Speaker 2>obviously going to go higher than that, but I certainly

2395
02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:20.439
<v Speaker 2>don't like him going in the first round than what

2396
02:00:20.560 --> 02:00:21.720
<v Speaker 2>that means for his future.

2397
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<v Speaker 1>Shane, this has been awesome having you tonight talking all

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02:00:26.720 --> 02:00:29.399
<v Speaker 1>these rookies, and for anybody who's watching or listening and

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<v Speaker 1>model scores, production metrics, player comps as you've been saying tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Combined results available at draft sharks dot com. How many

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of dollars is this going to set people back? Shane,

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<v Speaker 1>It's free.

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<v Speaker 2>All you have to do is give us your email.

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<v Speaker 2>It's free. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rookie Draft Guide available now at draft sharks dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>It's free. Get enter your email, they will send you

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<v Speaker 1>the guide. It's a fantastic Shane P. Hallim on X

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the great work. And final question for you,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Draft is in your backyard this year? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be attending.

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<v Speaker 2>The draft?

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<v Speaker 1>Sharks?

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<v Speaker 2>Were actually going to Savannah, Georgia. We meet up for

2416
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<v Speaker 2>the draft every year, so I will actually not be

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02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:19.760
<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh, which is crazy. I didn't apply for credential

2418
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<v Speaker 2>just to see if they'll give me one. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do you guys go to Georgia every year?

2421
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<v Speaker 1>Is it at a different spot every year?

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<v Speaker 2>Different different kind of Southwest spot every year?

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<v Speaker 1>We did?

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<v Speaker 2>We did Savannah last year, We're doing it again this year,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic stuff. We'll enjoy yourself. Say hi to to to Lenny,

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<v Speaker 1>to Jared, to Matt, to Kevin, to Alex, everybody there

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate the great work that you guys do there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for carving out some time with

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<v Speaker 1>me tonight, and we will have to do this again

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<v Speaker 1>very soon and obviously enjoy the draft. Shane.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks Eric, you too, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely that's Shane Hallam, Ladies and gentlemen. That's gonna wrap

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