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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>At the bottom of the hour, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>weird things that people have capped, and baby teeth is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the weirder.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Gary, Hey Shannon. My husband and I dated for

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<v Speaker 3>six or seven years, got married. We're in our thirties,

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<v Speaker 3>had babies when I was in my forties. He was

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<v Speaker 3>later in his forties. His mother tried to give me

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<v Speaker 3>his baby teeth he was forty two years old. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the strangest thing I've ever seen. I told her

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<v Speaker 3>to throw those away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be weird if you were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pass them off to somebody, Like your son comes over

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<v Speaker 1>with his girlfriend and you're like, I got something for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here they are and you hand over your son's baby teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird. But like a parent keeping their kids baby tooth,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>I would do that well, and there may be a

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<v Speaker 4>reason for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, baby teeth could be helpful if your children ever

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<v Speaker 5>need them.

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<v Speaker 4>Cell oh, a stem cell.

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<v Speaker 6>They can go in the tooth, single stem cell, remove

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<v Speaker 6>some cells, some DNA and create some stem cells for

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<v Speaker 6>your kiddos.

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<v Speaker 4>So keep those teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should be keeping anything from your

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<v Speaker 1>kid's bodies for medical reasons.

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<v Speaker 4>But I have a scientific question there.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure if they need if they need stem cells from

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<v Speaker 2>my kid to help save my kid, where did the

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<v Speaker 2>kid go?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I relying on teeth that came out of

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<v Speaker 2>their body twenty plus years ago to extract DNA?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't I still have a kid. If I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>say because they have.

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<v Speaker 1>An infection of some sort where they need an infusion

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>You're asking the wrong We have any stem cells? We

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<v Speaker 4>are not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is way way, way above many things that we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Next segment, there's a couple more slotted versus flathead versus

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<v Speaker 2>straight screwdrivers Again, the dumbest things that.

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<v Speaker 4>Bake the most people. That we'll do that. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>In the meantime, what else is going on? Time for

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>A very strange story out of Switzerland. A Swiss village

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<v Speaker 2>has been buried by a glacier collapsing in the Alps.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a gigantic village, but three hundred people in

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<v Speaker 2>the Valet region live in Blatten. This is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be about fifty miles south of the capital of Switzerland

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<v Speaker 2>and Burn. They said that they were able to evacuate.

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<v Speaker 2>They believe almost the entire three hundred person population, including

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<v Speaker 2>sheeps and cows, that were evacuated from the area of helicopters.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just sheep.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know stem cells, but I know sheep is

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<v Speaker 1>also plural.

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<v Speaker 2>What did I say sheeps? I meant you're right, I

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<v Speaker 2>meant sheep and cows. I was pluralizing two men, any

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<v Speaker 2>of the things. Cows were airlifted by helicopter to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of this thing. But this glacier, if you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen the video, completely overwhelmed this small little town of Blatten.

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<v Speaker 2>There is one sixty four year old man has been

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<v Speaker 2>reported missing because he's believed to have been in the

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<v Speaker 2>area at the time, but they're not certain if he

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<v Speaker 2>was caught up in it or just hasn't checked in

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<v Speaker 4>Just went somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>All these missing people that just want to get the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of places, sometimes we'll use the glacier to disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not, Well, we are going to potentially have record

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<v Speaker 1>temperatures and a potential for thunderstorms over the next couple

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<v Speaker 1>days here in southern California. National Weather Service talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it in its forecast discussion today said dramatic warming as

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<v Speaker 1>expected today and tomorrow above tempts over the weekend high nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>even one hundred degrees. I'm kind of welcoming that after

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in.

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<v Speaker 4>That studio so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Temperature between eight and sixteen degrees above normal. Tomorrow is

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<v Speaker 2>expected to be the peak.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Redlands, Banning, and Paris are going to have some unhealthy

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<v Speaker 1>air if you're a sensitive person there.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a bill under consideration up in Sacramento that

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<v Speaker 2>would prevent Caltran's worker deaths and injuries. They say by

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<v Speaker 2>putting automated speed cameras in those highway construction zones. I

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<v Speaker 2>am in at least two construction zones every single day

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<v Speaker 2>in the last I don't know, year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like either going to work or coming home

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<v Speaker 2>from work, and the speed limit through those work zones

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<v Speaker 2>is fifty five and no one gives two corny turds

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<v Speaker 2>about what the speed limit is. They don't slow down,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't And there are the digital display signs that

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<v Speaker 2>tell you work zone speed limit is fifty five and

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<v Speaker 2>then it will display your speed. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what people think when they drive by it and it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing seven venty seven in a fifty five and

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<v Speaker 2>then it sells you to slow down, and that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>They don't pay, They don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>They do not care.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going seventy and a fifty, you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to slow down for the sign that tells you you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing so, I don't think. But who knows. You love

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<v Speaker 1>smart children. You often bring us stories about eight year

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<v Speaker 1>olds that have, you know, law degrees and things of

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<v Speaker 1>that nature. We've got a baby Mozart in Encino, five

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<v Speaker 1>year old piano prodigy that will be performing at Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Concert Hall. Alec is his name, Alec Vaughan Kajudorian, and

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<v Speaker 1>they say he does come across as your typical Encino preschooler.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves video games, experimenting with cameras. A preschooler experiments

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<v Speaker 1>with cameras, plays video games. That's kind of an advanced

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<v Speaker 1>move for a preschooler, right. Maybe he does like running

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<v Speaker 1>around his parents' house like your average preschooler, playing with

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<v Speaker 1>his little brother and the family labradoodle.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I can already tell what your face is doing when

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<v Speaker 1>I say the word labradoodle.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even need to look up to know.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, aside from the five year old stuff, he

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<v Speaker 1>does sit at the piano and he is a very

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<v Speaker 1>gifted student with a perfect pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they say he's got perfect pitch. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>met anybody that has perfect pitch?

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 2>If I can identify music just by hearing a note,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll tell you what note it is.

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<v Speaker 1>My cousin Danny can play piano by ear. You can

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<v Speaker 1>hear something and.

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<v Speaker 4>Play it that enna.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds pretty amazing. Yeah, that would be an incredible talent,

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<v Speaker 2>they said. Mom and Dad said they discovered this when

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<v Speaker 2>Alec was a toddler. He would hear a note and

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<v Speaker 2>plink it out on the piano and find the correct

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<v Speaker 2>key almost immediately, almost instinctively, and that by within a

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<v Speaker 2>year or so he was playing some pretty complicated classical

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<v Speaker 2>music on the piano without ever reading sheet music.

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<v Speaker 1>He's five years old and his goal is to play

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<v Speaker 1>at carne Gee Hall and in a couple of months

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<v Speaker 1>it will come true.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what's the judge?

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<v Speaker 2>Me five?

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<v Speaker 1>And being like my dream is at Carnegie Hall.

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<v Speaker 4>I've checked off everything on my bucket list.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and then he may have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Gustavo Dudamel. You know, this is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>make a wish type situations. Not that he is sick,

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<v Speaker 1>but John and Ken, John and Ken should could really

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<v Speaker 1>get They know Gustavo Dudamel. Uh huh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know they love Gustavo Dudamel and of everything that he

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<v Speaker 1>brings to the La Philharmonic are used to now he

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<v Speaker 1>I think didn't he go to La or didn't he

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<v Speaker 1>go to New York? I don't know. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask John about it. They keep Good Time. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen the mural they have of Gustava Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that who that is?

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of that impressionistic, So I can't they know

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<v Speaker 2>who it is?

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<v Speaker 4>Clear? Yeah, I can't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they have a binder filled with every La

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<v Speaker 1>Times article that was ever written about Gustavo Dudamel. And

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that one binder turned

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<v Speaker 1>into like an entire library of binders.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the La Time spent so much print on Gustavo

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<v Speaker 4>that would explain the locked office between ours. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what's in there. That's exactly right. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit more about screwdriver gate and the magical

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<v Speaker 2>questions that can cut through small talk.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 4>As soon as tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>To immediately pause a federal court ruling that blocks many

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<v Speaker 2>of the president's tariffs, the US would seek emergency relief

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<v Speaker 2>from the US Supreme Court to avoid the irreparable national

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<v Speaker 2>security and economic harms at stake, According to a filing

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<v Speaker 2>in the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit that

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<v Speaker 2>came out this morning, would you.

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<v Speaker 4>Like your Jeopardy question? Let's do that? Talk after that

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<v Speaker 4>would be nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I love hot screwdriver talk. Okay, art an artist

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<v Speaker 1>for four hundred dollars an artists. You can dine al

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<v Speaker 1>fresco before you enjoy the frescoes.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Oufeezy gallery. In this country, I would have

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<v Speaker 4>to be what is Italy? Yes, Florence a little too easy,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>We were talking about things you can keep tools and

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying that, really, if you have a good

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<v Speaker 2>start with a flathead screw driver, a Phillips head, screwdriver

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<v Speaker 2>and a hammer.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good start, you said. It wasn't even just

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<v Speaker 4>a start.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said, I think you were speaking to me,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense, is do you know do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a flathead, a Philip's head and a hammer? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're there in the house. And I said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're in the same drawer, and you said, great, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all you need. Didn't whine.

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<v Speaker 2>But somebody chastise us for calling it a flathead when

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<v Speaker 2>he said it's called a straight screwdriver.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's an instructor.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, college law, trade school instructor, which is a.

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<v Speaker 4>Great level of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need that for what I do in my

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<v Speaker 1>home with my screwdrivers and hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>And because my point to you was you knew exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I was talking about, right, I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>go the plus sign of the minus.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have known what you meant if you said

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<v Speaker 4>straight screwdriver.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Garyan Channon, don't worry about what the guy said.

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<v Speaker 1>In my house, we call them the plus and the

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<v Speaker 1>minus screwdriver and it works for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, that's cute. I didn't care what you call it.

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<v Speaker 6>Gary, You are absolutely absolutely correct. I am in the

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<v Speaker 6>trades of an electrician for twenty years. It is a

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<v Speaker 5>Tell that guys college level instructor and that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, flat hand over, educated and under and formed my own.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some grease. And then he said he was

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<v Speaker 2>He had to find the one clean finger out of

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<v Speaker 1>They're never clean. Well that's the thing about a mechanic's hands.

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<v Speaker 1>You can clean them forever. They're never clean.

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<v Speaker 2>My uncle was a heavy equipment mechanic like bulldozers, big

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<v Speaker 1>Not to be a d but you know where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go to learn about tools college?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gery, Shannon Jack in Texas Tomato tomato potato,

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<v Speaker 5>potato head or flathead?

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<v Speaker 4>Who cares? It's a screwdriver. It's a good point, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a screwdriver.

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<v Speaker 4>In Shank Fearn's head.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of this girl. That's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>That's a lot of hoarding.

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<v Speaker 2>Priya Parker is a conflict resolution facilitator. We could have

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<v Speaker 2>used her work here in this discussion between straight and

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason I brought this to the show today

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<v Speaker 1>of people must be interested in cutting through small talk.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, well, when does one get into small talk?

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<v Speaker 1>And immediately my first example for me would be when

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<v Speaker 1>to in common that people you work with, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's somebody on another floor or what have you. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>coffee looks good. That kind of stuff, right, And if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to engage in that, they say, try asking,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said this magical question. And then I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at these magical questions they speak of, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>of small talk, you think it's kind of like passing by,

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<v Speaker 2>I think because when I read this, I thought of

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who asks a question and then does that thing

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<v Speaker 2>a while after do they ask a question, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the magical What she says, what makes them

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<v Speaker 2>magical questions is it's something that everyone in the group

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<v Speaker 2>to that other people might find interesting. For example, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the weirdest thing you've ever found in your pocket?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you supposed to remember that? I've found a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of weird stuff in my pocket. I'm sure over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, I don't remember it. It's not something that

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<v Speaker 1>would have stuck in my head. What about a baby

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<v Speaker 1>tooth or something?

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<v Speaker 4>What about this?

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<v Speaker 2>What topic could you give a twenty minute talk on

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<v Speaker 2>with no preparation?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, obviously, screwdrivers?

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<v Speaker 4>What's a path you almost took but didn't? I really

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<v Speaker 4>like that?

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<v Speaker 1>What topic you could give a twenty minute talk on

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<v Speaker 1>with no preparation? Like, that's a great question to ask

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody else, somebody that you don't really know that well,

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<v Speaker 1>because then you can find out about what they're passionate

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's so, That's part of the reason she says

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<v Speaker 2>these are also magical questions. Is it cuts through all

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<v Speaker 2>of the where you're from, where'd you go to college?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of work do you do, yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>find more about their actual personality, not just those other

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<v Speaker 2>characteristics about them. For example, she says, one of her

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<v Speaker 2>favorite questions is what was the first concert you went to?

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<v Speaker 4>And who took you?

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<v Speaker 2>Because a lot of times, I mean, depending on kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what age range you're in, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the same.

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<v Speaker 4>The same answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you went to a concert that may have been

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<v Speaker 2>someone else's first it wasn't necessarily yours, but there's a

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<v Speaker 2>or who took you could also say a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>Or can we do a magical question for tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 1>ask of people and then they can let us know

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<v Speaker 1>and we can go through them throughout the show on

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<v Speaker 2>You want to keep it, let's pencil that in for tomorrow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to ask them now? Or are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask them tomorrow? Who should keep it?

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<v Speaker 4>Or tomorrow? There would be a there will be a

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<v Speaker 4>magical question till tomorrow. Yeah, and we'll go through the

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<v Speaker 4>answers like a magical question. Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of love that twenty minute talk on with

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<v Speaker 1>no preparation, Like what do you what's your piccadillo?

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<v Speaker 4>What would yours be?

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<v Speaker 1>What could you talk about twenty minutes, just off the cuff,

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<v Speaker 1>no preparation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the to clarify. Is it an honest talk like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a talk about It doesn't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>like just talking for two minutes talking about something that

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<v Speaker 1>you could talk about, no problem, twenty minutes go we.

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<v Speaker 2>Could I think you and I have a leg up

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<v Speaker 2>on that kind of a question anyway, because that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what we do right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, no knowledge, it doesn't have to be factional.

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<v Speaker 4>No truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if I don't know, I don't know, really I

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<v Speaker 4>I have no idea. Now I'm on the spot. I

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Yeah, I think my wife would probably be able

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<v Speaker 2>to answer for me, like she would go, you would

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<v Speaker 2>obviously talk about something, and I'd well, of course I

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<v Speaker 2>could do that. She probably have an answer for that

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<v Speaker 2>better than I would. Huh maybe old bosses.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not something. It's not a gripe hour. I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>easy to fill twenty minutes, wouldn't it all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next? Why are monkeys stealing other monkeys? What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on? Is this a sign of the monkey.

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<v Speaker 2>Apocalypse, strange science when we come back, and a tooth

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<v Speaker 2>story by.

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<v Speaker 4>The way, oh old teeth Great.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump met with Jerome Powell today. He met with

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<v Speaker 2>the FED Reserve chair. They discussed the economy, but not

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<v Speaker 2>Jerome Powell's outlook for the interest rates, at least according

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<v Speaker 2>to the Fed. Powell told Trump that the Central Bank

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<v Speaker 2>rate it controls based solely on the careful, objective and

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<v Speaker 2>non political analysis that it comes up with a big

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<v Speaker 2>rally for stocks that began in Asia, running out of

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<v Speaker 2>momentum today about we certainly don't know what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen next. The US court blocked many a President Trump's tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>That did see some positive movement on markets across the

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<v Speaker 2>world today, the DAL added double digit points. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>trading here. And then an update out of the New

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<v Speaker 2>York federal trial of Sean Ditty Combs, a former personal

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<v Speaker 2>assistant testified that Didty sexually assaulted her through her into

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<v Speaker 2>swimming pool, dumped a bucket of ice on her head,

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<v Speaker 2>to have sex with her against her will. Touched on

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<v Speaker 2>these allegations just briefly at the start of the testimony,

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<v Speaker 2>and she'll probably talked about them in more detail as

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<v Speaker 2>things continue throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, Well, we've got monkeys stealing another type of monkeys babies.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a weird fat and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where we kick off strange science.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like weird science, but strange monkeys.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you know the dealing monkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Capuchin monkeys, right, the little white faced devils.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones that there was a capuchin sorry, capuchin

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<v Speaker 2>monkey that appeared I think most famously in Indiana Jones.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was a capuchin.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's also one in Righteous Gemstones, very popular in

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<v Speaker 2>the pet store that I used to have in my

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<v Speaker 2>town that I grew up in. They had a capuchin

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<v Speaker 2>monkey in a cage.

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<v Speaker 4>It was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about this pet store. Did you frequent

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<v Speaker 1>this pet store?

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. Yeah, because it was also a halloween store.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the back there were the most terrifying full

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<v Speaker 2>face masks and makeup and swords and gory stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the front you could buy a hamster ball.

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<v Speaker 1>What a weird mashup a halloween store slash pet store

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Was there also a Chinese restaurant next door?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Was around the corner? Yes, there was one, but

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<v Speaker 2>the capuchin monkey was up in a case. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for sale, but the capuchin monkey was up in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the pedal up above the wall.

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<v Speaker 4>What was his name? Remember what his name was? I

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember. Did you talk to the monkey?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because he would screech at you and he would

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<v Speaker 2>slam the cage.

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<v Speaker 4>I bet he was pissed. He was. It would scare you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was living in a halloween store.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite animal in the pet store? The

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<v Speaker 1>capuchin monkey, even though I was terrified of him?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because that thing got out very different for you

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<v Speaker 2>taking my face off.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it was probably the most exotic animal there.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh by far. Yeah, they have a lot of birds.

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<v Speaker 2>There, birds, snakes, rabbits, hamsters, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the capuchin monkeys on a remote Panamanian island are

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<v Speaker 1>abducting babies from howler monkeys. They are calling it a

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<v Speaker 1>first of its kind trend. This is a wild population,

436
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<v Speaker 1>unlike the cage capuchin that did not sing at your

437
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<v Speaker 1>pet store in Petaluma circ. In nineteen seventy eight. The

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<v Speaker 1>wild population living on Jicaron Island has been monitored with

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<v Speaker 1>eighty six motion cameras to capture their sophisticated use of

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<v Speaker 1>stone tools to crack open hard fruits and nuts and shellfish.

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<v Speaker 4>It's remarkable if you see video of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But five years into recording the footage they started this

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen, a researcher noted that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>young male capuchin monkeys with an infant monkey from another species.

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<v Speaker 1>They had that monkey clinging to its back. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>capuchin monkey, nicknamed Joker, picked up at least four of

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<v Speaker 1>these baby howler monkeys over four months, holding on to

448
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<v Speaker 1>them for more than a week. This captivity would last. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at first, the researchers thought it was a case of

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<v Speaker 1>just one individual monkey who maybe is a little odd

451
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<v Speaker 1>a little different a kidnapper monkey.

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<v Speaker 4>But then five months after they saw a.

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<v Speaker 1>Joker with the other type of monkey, four other young

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<v Speaker 1>male capuchins were found carrying around Hawler babies, and over

455
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<v Speaker 1>fifteen months, this group of monkeys took in eleven Haler

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<v Speaker 1>babies younger than four weeks old. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>prime night fad or fashion. According to researchers, weird and

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<v Speaker 1>like every capuchin monkey needed this designer handbag, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Haller monkey, like everyone else had one, so

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't I have one?

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<v Speaker 2>So they learned from other capuchin monkeys that that was

462
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<v Speaker 2>the thing to do, right And then just there's no

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<v Speaker 2>footage of the thefts either.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe it's the baby Fowler monkeys that are like,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that capuchin monkey.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'll go live with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but they did prevent There is footage

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<v Speaker 1>of the kapuchins preventing the Haller babies from escaping. It

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<v Speaker 1>also shows heartbreakingly so the Hawler monkey parents searching and calling.

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<v Speaker 4>For their babies. Oh that's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here's the worst part.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it gets better than that, you guys, it gets

473
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<v Speaker 4>really bad. Should I just abort the story. You gotta

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<v Speaker 4>move on. I don't do. They kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>They die, They die from malnourishment because they're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the right they're not getting the mother's milk because remember

477
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<v Speaker 1>it's the male monkeys that are abducting the babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>the babies still need the mother's milk and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting it from the haller mother. Milk monkey monkey mother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not funny. At least three howler monkey infants were

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<v Speaker 1>being carried around even when they were dead.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, let's do the old teeth stories. That

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<v Speaker 2>is awful. You should be shamed of yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>You should have. We've teased that story for like three

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<v Speaker 4>days and it ended up being awful. I have an

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<v Speaker 4>answer to your question about what his name was.

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<v Speaker 2>The store was called the Pet Stop, Yeah, and the

488
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<v Speaker 2>monkey was called Louie. Oh, so he's a famous it's

489
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<v Speaker 2>a she that was That was the irony of the

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<v Speaker 2>name Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a female capuca named Louis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And whatever happened to Louise, I'm sure Louis died well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the internet. There was an article in an

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<v Speaker 2>old San Francisco paper from twenty five years ago that

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<v Speaker 2>described the store. Yeah, twenty five years ago, but the

497
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<v Speaker 2>pet store was, I mean alive and running.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say they can live forty to

499
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<v Speaker 1>fifty years in captivity. Louie could still be alive. No, well,

500
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<v Speaker 1>how many years ago was that? Forty years ago when

501
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<v Speaker 1>they wrote the article. The pet stop had been around

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty six years, which far older than that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why it says that, because it was there

504
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<v Speaker 1>as long as I was a kid, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just one monkey, so it's not like she was banging

506
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<v Speaker 1>around with anyone and making baby.

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<v Speaker 4>And even the.

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<v Speaker 2>Owner at the owner of the store when the article

509
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<v Speaker 2>was written, basically said, pets don't make great monkey. Sorry,

510
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<v Speaker 2>monkeys don't make great pets.

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<v Speaker 4>So kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Felt bad about Louis, and it took them took Louis

513
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<v Speaker 2>out of the store, sorry, and kept her upstairs in

514
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<v Speaker 2>a different cage so that she wasn't yelling and screaming

515
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<v Speaker 2>at the customers.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, oh, that's awful. That was a nice story that

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<v Speaker 1>turned out bad too.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, old crazy teeth. When we come back to

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<v Speaker 4>Strange Science.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do the show outside next week.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the plan. It's exciting, that would be

524
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<v Speaker 4>very fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's going to be hot, and you think I

526
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<v Speaker 2>need to work on my basstand, which I think is funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a couple of reasons why you're going to

528
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<v Speaker 1>Hawaii where you're going to be partially nude, and you

529
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<v Speaker 1>have very fair skin, and so not only am I

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<v Speaker 1>advocating for you to just spend like fifteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes out in the sun every day, like just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>read the paper.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, read.

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<v Speaker 1>Play Candy Crush in the backyard. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>read the paper on their phone if they read, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not. You know, you have a book somewhere, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I do have a book. Say. All I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 4>go outside in your backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful for like fifteen minutes, just exposing your legs

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe your torso to the sun. So that number one,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get sunburned when you start exposing yourself Willy

542
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<v Speaker 1>nilly and Hawaii. And number two, so you don't scare

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<v Speaker 1>off the townspeople with how white you are. It's for

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<v Speaker 1>health and for accommodating the people of Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of members of my family, and I guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>you I will not be the whitest person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about anyone else. I care about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the problem that I have access to. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we can prevent you from getting a disastrous sunburn

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<v Speaker 1>right away, I think that that.

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<v Speaker 4>Would be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a day, well like ten minutes, three times

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<v Speaker 1>a week. Okay, that's all just to protect yourself. Appreciate

554
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<v Speaker 1>that fledge Watch. Did you know we're in fledge Watch?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that a bird thing? It is?

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<v Speaker 1>Amy King will tell you all about it. I kind

557
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<v Speaker 1>of blacked out when she was in here the other

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<v Speaker 1>day with the knowledge that she had of the nest?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you run that back for me? So you were

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<v Speaker 1>also affected by her knowledge?

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<v Speaker 5>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was stunned.

563
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<v Speaker 5>I was.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to her kind of like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation started with, Hey, Amy, what's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>With the bird?

567
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<v Speaker 2>Because the picture I saw looked like it was an

568
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<v Speaker 2>empty nest like this right the eagles up and big

569
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<v Speaker 2>Bear had taken off, which everybody's waiting for.

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<v Speaker 1>It said something to the effect of they're still there

571
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<v Speaker 1>there in the top deck, and that's when I blacked out.

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<v Speaker 4>She called it the attic, the attic of the mess

573
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<v Speaker 4>and the front porch that exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, when we got that far, I realized we were

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<v Speaker 2>playing with something that we had no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, oh, what does this little ball do?

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<v Speaker 4>And it turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Medusa pops up right. I just started waiting, smiling

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<v Speaker 1>to Amy. I was nodding, and I was just like, cool, cool, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>cool cool. But apparently the fledge watch kicked off on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's similar to Pip Watch, where we watched closely for

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<v Speaker 1>the chicks to work their way out of their egg shells.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember there was a crack and then the pip and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole bit. So these these fledglings could fly the coop,

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<v Speaker 1>fly the nest anytime now. They say that fledglings from

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<v Speaker 1>southern California, from this area specifically, have been spotted as

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<v Speaker 1>far north as British Columbia, as far east as Yellowstone,

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<v Speaker 1>as far south as Baja. So these little, these little birds,

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<v Speaker 1>these little eaglets we've been watching, could go great distances.

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<v Speaker 4>Any day now, and they may never come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean literally empty nest for those for Shadow and

592
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<v Speaker 2>Steve Shadow and.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Steve why would you think Shadow Stevens the old

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<v Speaker 1>radio guy. But I don't know why the baby's names

595
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<v Speaker 1>are Sonny and Gizmo.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're pretending to know all of this stuff. Amy

597
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<v Speaker 2>will see through your rear ruse. I know old teeth.

598
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<v Speaker 2>To bring it back to old teeth. Scientists have said

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<v Speaker 2>that the teeth that they have found for the colossal

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<v Speaker 2>megalodon is that a dinosaur. It is prehistoric predator. They

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<v Speaker 2>said it last lived about three point six million years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, not only was it hunting large marine mammals

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<v Speaker 2>like whales. Hello, that's how big this megalodon was. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a giant sharky thing. But a new study

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<v Speaker 2>has found that instead, mineralized fossilized teeth show that the

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<v Speaker 2>megalodon might have been an opportunistic feeder. This thing, they said,

607
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<v Speaker 2>required about one hundred thousand calories a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a dinosaur. Of course, it was an opportunistic feeder.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it was waiting for cavir.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they said it probably did feed on the very

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<v Speaker 2>large prey items obviously, but that's not available all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was flexible enough to feed on smaller animals

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<v Speaker 2>to fulfill its dietary requirements, like it's snacked on a

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<v Speaker 2>smaller creature. Sure, like we all do exactly well.

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<v Speaker 1>Grab whatever's around if it's feeding times, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're on your way to meil one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>calories a day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm getting close. I don't know what it is is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very hungry, getting pretty close.

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<v Speaker 4>Here comes.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not hitting that grapefruit sized softball right over

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the plate.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, sometimes it's easier just to let it go and.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope because I'm still not over the slight you shared

625
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<v Speaker 1>at the start of the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Which one would that be? I don't remember you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I complimented you when you walked in today. You get

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<v Speaker 2>one that doesn't tide over for the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, why are you dressed up? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to set the building on fire? Was that a compliment?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>The dressed up part? Oh okay, okay. I don't remember

633
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<v Speaker 1>what your slight was, but it was very creator. It hurt,

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00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 1>it did, but I don't remember it. Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>worst kind. John Cobalt Chow coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, see you tomorrow. Stay dry, everybody, blessings. You've been

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<v Speaker 4>listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio Lab
