1
00:00:05,919 --> 00:00:09,519
Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is Wednesday, Happy New Year everybody.

2
00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,400
The last show of twenty twenty five, Ravino. We hit

3
00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:19,000
the parlay yesterday, a great call by you on the

4
00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:23,199
under in Air Force Wyoming that was never close. He's

5
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,280
easy under and Seattle ended up pulling away for me

6
00:00:28,199 --> 00:00:31,719
to hit the parlay leg. Unfortunately, despite having a great

7
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,399
number on UMass, my my five percenter fell short. But

8
00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:40,640
you know what, we could continue to plug along. It's

9
00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:43,920
a long season, and we flipped the calendar to twenty

10
00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,200
twenty six tomorrow, but still one more day in twenty

11
00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,280
twenty five to to try to add some units to

12
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,719
the twenty twenty five ledger and looking forward to breaking

13
00:00:52,719 --> 00:00:54,719
down the games with you today.

14
00:00:54,759 --> 00:00:56,000
Speaker 2: How's your week going so far?

15
00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:57,840
Speaker 4: It's been.

16
00:00:58,119 --> 00:01:00,759
Speaker 3: It was really good in college basketball, yes, because besides

17
00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:04,439
the Wyoming Air Force total under, we also.

18
00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:07,120
Speaker 4: Hit the Louisville team total over.

19
00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,000
Speaker 3: Last night against cal Louisville gets to ninety. Number was

20
00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,400
eighty three and a half. Looked a little soft, turned

21
00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,640
out to be so. So college basketball has been really

22
00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,359
good this month at them in excess of sixty four

23
00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:24,480
percent wins in college hoops since December one. So the

24
00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,400
month is provided. I think about twenty five units been

25
00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,319
very very good, So we hope to keep that roll

26
00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:32,480
in here today with again what's an excessively large card

27
00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,719
with a whole bunch of early games on New Year's Eve.

28
00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,719
Speaker 4: Is these kids look to get to the.

29
00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,280
Speaker 3: Local gin mill at the time, you know, by the

30
00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,439
time New Year's hits.

31
00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,319
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that and of course we've got a cater

32
00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,480
to college football. I'm sure some of that has to

33
00:01:49,519 --> 00:01:53,840
do with the this the college football playoff presuming tonight

34
00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,680
and sort of getting the.

35
00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:58,519
Speaker 2: Most of the stage. There's there's actually a pretty good game.

36
00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll probably get to it at some point

37
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200
point that that's in that sort of primetime spot, but

38
00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:05,959
I'm gonna start early. So we were we were kind

39
00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,879
of joking off off air. You know, I don't know

40
00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,759
if this is the feature game for everyone today, but

41
00:02:11,759 --> 00:02:15,039
it's certainly the feature game, uh for me, or you know,

42
00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,280
for a lot of people, uh that follow the ACC

43
00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,479
that live in central New York, maybe that live in

44
00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,759
South Carolina. Rob I got to point something out, So

45
00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,639
Clemson Syracuse has become this like it's not a rivalry,

46
00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,319
but I feel like Syracuse feel like.

47
00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,479
Speaker 2: Treats it like a rivalry.

48
00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because Joe Girard left and

49
00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,840
went to Clemson. Every year Clemson seems to be the

50
00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:42,960
biggest football game on the schedule. These two teams are

51
00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,159
not rivals. But I will say that Cus cares about

52
00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:49,479
this game like it's a It's a bigger game than

53
00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,560
it should be for Syracuse. Like just for whatever reason. Uh,

54
00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,520
Clemson comes to the Dome today two pm, National TV,

55
00:02:56,599 --> 00:02:58,639
Which is why I wanted to, you know, kind of

56
00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,719
put this in the in the tops.

57
00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:01,639
Speaker 2: It is.

58
00:03:01,759 --> 00:03:06,719
Speaker 1: I can't understate this is such a massive game for Syracuse.

59
00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,759
Donnie Freeman is back. They've been they've been teasing his return, Rob,

60
00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:15,280
like it's like a ww even yet right, Like they've

61
00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:19,039
been running his return for weeks, like you know Undertaker

62
00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,360
coming back at the pay per view. He comes out,

63
00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:23,879
he warms up, he goes through the motions, you see

64
00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,919
him out in the court, and then he doesn't play.

65
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,719
But that's all been by design. So you texted me,

66
00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,759
You're like, man, Freeman might change some things him being back.

67
00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:33,080
Speaker 2: Rob.

68
00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,759
Speaker 1: I think he could have come back two weeks ago,

69
00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,439
but I don't think there was any reason to play

70
00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,520
him against stone Hill.

71
00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,240
Speaker 2: Maybe he should have played him against Austra.

72
00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:45,439
Speaker 1: That was a bad result for Syracuse, but we talked

73
00:03:45,439 --> 00:03:49,400
about it yesterday. All is forgiven for teams like QUS.

74
00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,919
If you can come out and do it in conference play,

75
00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,199
I'll let you kick this one off to Syracuse get

76
00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:55,800
it done in their ACC opener.

77
00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,319
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting matchup and the time obviously, yeah, I

78
00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:03,560
mean no, these teams do play a whole bunch of

79
00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,039
day games during their seasons, but when it's a Wednesday

80
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,400
afternoon to two o'clock, something just feels a little bit

81
00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,639
different about it. They've been through preseason tournaments and whatnot

82
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,360
where time schedules are odds. So I don't know that

83
00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,120
that right off the bat is going to have any

84
00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,079
effect on any of these games that are played today,

85
00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,120
with a whole bulk of them being played early. That

86
00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:28,399
being said, the one thing that sticks out here drastically

87
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,000
like a sore thumb from a total's perspective is the

88
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120
amount of unders being racked up by these two teams.

89
00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:37,839
Syracuse team total one and seven to the under over

90
00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:39,800
the course of their last eight games. You can attribute

91
00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,040
a lot of that to Freeman's absence. I'm sure the

92
00:04:44,079 --> 00:04:46,800
point spread record just one in four over the course

93
00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,240
of their last five. But like you mentioned, everything changes

94
00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,800
here conference season, best player back in the lineup.

95
00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:57,279
Speaker 4: The one thing I worry about.

96
00:04:56,959 --> 00:04:59,279
Speaker 3: With situations like this, and we talk about it a

97
00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:03,279
lot the NBA on the NBA Show with colleague and

98
00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,279
friend of our Ski profit that when you take a

99
00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,560
key player and you get used to playing without them

100
00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:14,800
for nine games, things do change, and then the team

101
00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,839
starts to become cohesive without said player, and then they return,

102
00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:23,680
and initially upon return, things don't always go smoothly. It's

103
00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,879
a kind of a reintegration process into the lineup. So

104
00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:32,439
while Freeman's return is a huge boost, you just don't

105
00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,399
know how it's gonna go very first game out, especially

106
00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,399
first half, if there's something that's gonna go wrong for sarahcuse,

107
00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:42,360
if there's gonna be some miscommunication, et cetera, et cetera.

108
00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:44,439
To me, it would be first half, get into the

109
00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,639
locker room, everybody's settled again, come back second half. To

110
00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,160
that extent, I think Clemson first half could be a

111
00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,639
pretty good play here. Q's is gonna be a fired

112
00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,759
up crowd, obviously, the atmosphere again we talk a lot

113
00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,720
about venue proof. These ACC teams walk into these venues

114
00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:07,439
all the time, not that huge of a deal. Especially

115
00:06:07,879 --> 00:06:10,040
Brownell's had this team for quite some time. He's a

116
00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,680
pretty settling coach. So to me, I would look two

117
00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,759
ways here. I'd probably look toward the under in this contest.

118
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,480
I think both teams very good defensively in my mind,

119
00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,720
and we've talked about Syracuse's ability to protect at the

120
00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,519
rim before, so I think.

121
00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:30,040
Speaker 4: That's good for both sides here.

122
00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:35,519
Speaker 3: And for Brownell's team, they've sort of taken on the

123
00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:39,360
identity that they had for the bulk of his tenure

124
00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:42,800
here at Clemson to begin with. I mean he's been there,

125
00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,079
I don't know how many years, but I'm going to

126
00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,160
say about eighty percent of that they were spent being

127
00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,399
a methodical, defensive, low scoring minded team, and then that

128
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:50,920
changed the.

129
00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:51,680
Speaker 4: Last couple of years.

130
00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,720
Speaker 3: They became a little bit better, high scoring, sort of

131
00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,160
out of character for Brad brown now, but I think

132
00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:57,720
they're back.

133
00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,680
Speaker 4: To that type of team.

134
00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,560
Speaker 3: Do have some conference fight for an opener here, which

135
00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:11,480
to me usually breeds more defense, more tenaciousness on that

136
00:07:11,639 --> 00:07:14,399
end of the floor. So I would probably look that

137
00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,120
way as a full game under you're staring at one

138
00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:21,000
forty two and a half. I would caution by saying this,

139
00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,240
if you like under, I'd sit and wait. I'd sit

140
00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:28,639
and wait because the more the minutes go by this morning,

141
00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:30,879
the more the hours go by this morning up until

142
00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,120
game time, more people are going to come in with

143
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,279
over because Donnie Freeman's playing. That's what's going to boost

144
00:07:36,279 --> 00:07:38,519
this total up. And you get a better number, probably

145
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,240
closer to tip off than you do at this point.

146
00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:43,720
But I would think it's probably a lower scoring game.

147
00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,879
Low seventies wins it, and you could stick under one

148
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,759
forty two and a half. And I think Clemson first

149
00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,240
half might be a look, I just don't trust. I've

150
00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:56,480
seen it too many times. Your star player comes back

151
00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,160
and the cohesiveness is sort of out a alter at

152
00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,399
the beginning of the return. But maybe second half, Syracuse,

153
00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:05,920
you can get a good number on that if you're

154
00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:06,600
an in game guy.

155
00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,639
Speaker 1: Well, Rob, I I do agree with that point from

156
00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:15,959
a general standpoint, but I think in Syracuse's case, you

157
00:08:15,959 --> 00:08:19,000
would have had to have a cohesive offense to begin with, right,

158
00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,800
so it's like they're not you know, they're not losing

159
00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,959
any offensive cohesiveness because this isn't a cohesive offense to

160
00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,920
begin with. Actually, like if if Freeman is him is

161
00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:33,000
one hundred and he's not on any sort of minutes

162
00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,360
restriction and the and and.

163
00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:38,159
Speaker 2: He's allowed to to you know, play his normal game.

164
00:08:38,799 --> 00:08:43,279
Speaker 1: Uh, his his inclusion is a massive boost for Syracuse

165
00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,720
because you know, you you are probably right about this

166
00:08:46,879 --> 00:08:48,799
total and the way that this game is going to go.

167
00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:52,519
It is like Syracuse they're all about defense this year.

168
00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:55,600
They want to slow the game down. That there this

169
00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,639
is not the Judah Mints Syracuse team that wants to

170
00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:00,519
get up and down the floor and run. Uh.

171
00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,720
Speaker 2: They they'd rather operate.

172
00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,279
Speaker 1: In the half court and play like a slower, more

173
00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,840
methodical game like Freeman lets you do that offensively, Like

174
00:09:08,879 --> 00:09:11,679
that is that is when Donnie Freeman's on the floor,

175
00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,799
Like that's the kind of game they'll likely play half

176
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,759
court and the goal will be to get the ball

177
00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:19,000
to him and then guys like you know that the

178
00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:22,120
shooters will kind of hang out and they'll they'll you know,

179
00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:25,559
it'll be it'll be less, they'll have less to do.

180
00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:29,480
Like right now, you've got a Syracuse offense that I

181
00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,440
don't think has a true go to guy from a

182
00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,240
scoring standpoint, but with Freeman on the floor, it can

183
00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:39,360
definitely be him and and he gives them some some

184
00:09:39,399 --> 00:09:41,120
half court juice in the offense at the other end

185
00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:43,080
of the floor. And I've said this really since the

186
00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,480
beginning of the really, since the players are a tournament

187
00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,799
rob this Syracuse team can defend. William Kyle is a monster,

188
00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,480
and the guards are like the defense, one hundred percent

189
00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:54,960
man of man.

190
00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,720
Speaker 2: They don't play zone anymore. So that's the thing.

191
00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,679
Speaker 1: Like when Audrey took over for Behind, he always wanted

192
00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,000
to go man, but he just didn't have the guys

193
00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,960
to play it, and he would revert back into what

194
00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,360
became a very sloppy version of the two three that

195
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,840
sort of defined Syracuse for all those years. It's now

196
00:10:12,879 --> 00:10:16,840
it's all Manda Man, William Kyle the third elite rim protector,

197
00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,240
like elite post rim guy. They're gonna be able to

198
00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:24,360
get stops against Clemson. I took Syracuse plus two. This

199
00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,279
is gonna be my leg of the parlay earlier this morning.

200
00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,080
He could have got two and a half at FanDuel.

201
00:10:29,159 --> 00:10:31,320
I think I think Cus is going to go off

202
00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,879
a favorite here. I think they actually are flipping to

203
00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,879
favorite right now. So I've got Syracuse plus two for

204
00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,080
the parlay. We're gonna go Syracuse money line. We'll just

205
00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:44,960
call it. It's it's minus minus one. P. Fifteen looks

206
00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,679
like is gonna be good for the parlay. I can't.

207
00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,840
This game is so massive for Syracuse, Like Red Autrey's

208
00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:57,279
gonna get run out of town. He might not get

209
00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,600
to he might not get back to his car if

210
00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:00,600
they lose this game.

211
00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,200
Speaker 2: The fan base here has had enough.

212
00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,720
Speaker 1: They they there's literally countdowns on Syracuse Twitter to hit

213
00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:10,080
to him being fired, which would be coincide with the

214
00:11:10,159 --> 00:11:13,399
end of the season, SENCA tournament or bust. And I

215
00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,879
just think, like, stut, you know, you had the win

216
00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:18,320
over Tennessee, put to follow it up with the loss

217
00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,679
to Hostra like puts you back to square one. Syracuse

218
00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:24,639
has to come out and have a good start to

219
00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,440
conference play.

220
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,200
Speaker 2: They lost.

221
00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,039
Speaker 1: So the game I referenced, I was at this game

222
00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,279
two years ago. It was, of course, Joe Girard coming

223
00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,639
back to the Dome. Audrey in a close game, decided

224
00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,039
to let you know, decided to follow Gerard seven straight possessions,

225
00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,799
let him close the.

226
00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,799
Speaker 2: Game out on the line.

227
00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,000
Speaker 1: Ninety plus percent pre throw shooter, huge disparity in coaching.

228
00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:48,120
Autrey is a horrific coach. Okay, there's no doubt about that.

229
00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:51,919
He's a bad coach. Brad Boudel, great coach. But I

230
00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,679
do think this matchup and having Freeman back is a

231
00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:58,200
very favorable to Syracuse. So this is a client play

232
00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,200
for me, So for the for the you know, don't

233
00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,759
give enough actual picks crowd.

234
00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:03,600
Speaker 2: There you go, client play.

235
00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,200
Speaker 1: Syracuse plus two parlay leg is gonna be Syracuse on

236
00:12:08,759 --> 00:12:09,679
the money line.

237
00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,000
Speaker 2: All right, we're off to a hot start here.

238
00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,360
Speaker 1: We've already got a client play given out, first leg

239
00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,279
of the parlay locked in, and uh, I think that's

240
00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:22,600
a that's it's gonna be a big one today, National TV,

241
00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:27,480
ESPN two two p m. Let's go to the chat

242
00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:31,639
here and let's let's see there's a lot of uh, well,

243
00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,679
we'll get to you know, there's a lot of big games.

244
00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,559
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of the smaller ones. I I

245
00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,159
gotta give, I gotta give my shot. My guy Sean.

246
00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,720
I don't know if he's watching.

247
00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:42,480
Speaker 1: Right now, uh, but he he tweeted at me a

248
00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,159
minute ago, and he is a he is a big

249
00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:49,799
Dayton fan, and I misread his tweet. He actually said, trigger,

250
00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,720
we need more Dayton gear out of you on the show.

251
00:12:52,759 --> 00:12:55,480
I actually have a I actually have a great Dayton hoodie.

252
00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:59,559
Problem is they haven't given they haven't given me much

253
00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:03,080
reason to wear it this season. I am a little

254
00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,000
down on Dayton being like a power in the A ten.

255
00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:09,519
I'm a little down on the A ten right like

256
00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,600
you've got VCU in a transition year.

257
00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:14,000
Speaker 2: Loyola Chicago has just been horrific.

258
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely what has had one of the worst non conferences

259
00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:21,080
in recent memory for a team that was like actually

260
00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,519
projected to be pretty good. But the A ten starts today.

261
00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,399
Dayton is laying a big number to Fordham at the

262
00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:32,480
ud Arena, one of my favorite places that I've been

263
00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:35,120
to watch a game to this point. So Rob, talk

264
00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:37,399
to me a little A ten hoops, do you have

265
00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,399
anything for us on Fordham Dayton for seaw on Twitter?

266
00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,279
Speaker 4: Well, we can say this right off the bat.

267
00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,919
Speaker 3: Money has come in on Fordham eighteen down to sixteen

268
00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,480
and a half probably rightfullys, So, Adam, I think you

269
00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,039
can seriously question Fordham's schedule up until this point. I

270
00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,360
mean you pointed out some concerns about Dayton, But you

271
00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:59,600
could take this nine and four record that Fordham's posted.

272
00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,600
You could all kinds of holes in it if you

273
00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:04,080
want to do strength of schedule argument, because they just

274
00:14:04,159 --> 00:14:07,679
haven't played anybody in the class of what they're going

275
00:14:07,759 --> 00:14:12,519
to see here today, a bunch of Northeast type schools

276
00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,840
that are middling, or I guess Iona would be the

277
00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:19,000
best team that they've played so far.

278
00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:21,720
Speaker 4: And you know Iona, they don't win that game on.

279
00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:24,320
Speaker 3: The road either, So the question really in this one,

280
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,279
Adam becomes and I would fall into that category. By

281
00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,919
the way, with Fordham, you know, strength of schedule does

282
00:14:32,039 --> 00:14:35,440
matter in this contest. However, sixteen and a half matters

283
00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,279
as well. The way they play at the temple that

284
00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,799
they play, you can keep a game pretty slow and

285
00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,080
limit possessions and sixteen and a half becomes larger. It's

286
00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,480
interesting to me that Anthony Grant, who you know, for

287
00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:53,960
the majority of his career Adam has been one of

288
00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:59,000
these snail type pace coaches. But their games this year,

289
00:14:59,679 --> 00:15:03,000
when you go through their log, are kind of sporadic, high.

290
00:15:02,759 --> 00:15:05,120
Speaker 4: Scoring, low scoring, high scoring, low scoring.

291
00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,080
Speaker 3: It's almost like Dayton doesn't have a true identity here, However,

292
00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:12,799
they have played a much tougher schedule. To say this

293
00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,200
is a severe step down in class, it might even

294
00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,399
be an understatement from what Dayton has seen so far,

295
00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:24,240
the likes of Cincinnati, the likes of BYU, Virginia, FSU, etc. So,

296
00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,080
really the number becomes the great equalizer here, or in

297
00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:33,240
my case, what you tend to look at is total.

298
00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:36,279
This total here is one thirty seven and a half.

299
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,519
But I'm gonna do you one better. I really think

300
00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:43,279
that in this instance, for Dayton to step down in

301
00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,919
defensive class matters, they're on their home floor. I don't

302
00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:48,919
know that Fordham will be able to walk it up

303
00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:51,759
for forty minutes. That just doesn't seem likely, especially if

304
00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,200
you're in chase mode. You have to try and catch

305
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,159
up by scoring buckets. Dayton's team total here is seventy

306
00:15:57,159 --> 00:15:59,759
six and a half to me, seems a tick low.

307
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,919
If to see them get to seventy eight seventy nine here,

308
00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,000
I don't think would be that much of a stretch

309
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:07,799
of the imagination.

310
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,080
Speaker 4: So if I were to play just for.

311
00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,320
Speaker 3: Your buddy who who wants to know a little bit

312
00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,080
about what I feel on this Dayton game and.

313
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,240
Speaker 4: What you feel I think Dayton team total.

314
00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,879
Speaker 3: Is probably the way I would look in that game

315
00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,360
up and over seventy six and a half.

316
00:16:24,639 --> 00:16:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can't argue with that from a

317
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,000
total perspective. For you talked about Fordum's non conference schedule,

318
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,159
and it is a you know, you're talking about like

319
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,559
poking holes in that. I mean they I just have

320
00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,159
to pull this up to make it sure. I think

321
00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,480
they open their year with a loss to New Jersey

322
00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:44,240
Institute of Technology. So you've got like nine and four.

323
00:16:44,279 --> 00:16:47,320
I mean that is a horrific loss. That is a

324
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,559
bad team out of an America East conference, that's like

325
00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:54,000
historically bad this year. Like that's you know, those types

326
00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,240
of results are matt like massive concerns.

327
00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,840
Speaker 2: I do. I did watch them play Iona.

328
00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:02,559
Speaker 1: They were pretty implus in that game despite losing. But

329
00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:06,359
like I guess, for me, this is Mike Magpio now

330
00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,880
at Fordham. So it's like the what I so, where

331
00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,680
my number is? I guess the point let me let

332
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,359
me backtrack a little bit. I'm showing like pretty serious

333
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,799
value on Fordham at seventeen. From if we're just doing

334
00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:25,160
a straight handicapping numbers perspective, I've got this closer to thirteen.

335
00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,799
But my my number this is Remember yesterday I said, man,

336
00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:34,359
there's a handful of teams where my number is probably off, okay,

337
00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:37,279
and I feel like Fordham is probably one of them.

338
00:17:37,519 --> 00:17:40,720
Reason being very high on Magpio. I loved him in

339
00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:43,960
his last stop, which was Riverside.

340
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,680
Speaker 2: You see Riverside I think he came from.

341
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,759
Speaker 4: Was West? Yeah, was that West?

342
00:17:47,839 --> 00:17:53,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, fully expect him to like do well at Fordham,

343
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,279
but like it's clearly taking some It's clearly it could

344
00:17:57,319 --> 00:17:59,160
take them a whole season. It could take them, you know,

345
00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,759
two season. Right, you're talking about a Fordham team going

346
00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:05,880
into the A ten. That's that's near the bottom of

347
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,400
the A ten in terms of like if you were

348
00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,240
to power rate all these teams, and this is a

349
00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:14,319
team that got beat by New Jersey Institute of Technology.

350
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,880
Was not really that competitive with Colgate, right, like kind

351
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,319
of kind of lost that game that was up in

352
00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,240
a neutral court in Canada, but still like wasn't really

353
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,519
competitive with Colgate. And then they lose to holy Cross,

354
00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:33,119
which is you know, holy Cross is in rebuilding mode

355
00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,079
at the bottom of the Patriot legue eleven and a

356
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:40,400
half point underdog there. So yeah, that's that's really concerning

357
00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:43,759
to me, like some of those non conference results, because now,

358
00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:47,200
if you're Fordham, you're stepping up in class to take

359
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,519
on when you're when you're playing the top half of

360
00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,039
the A ten, it's a pretty big jumping class. So

361
00:18:52,839 --> 00:18:56,519
if I were totally trusting of my FORDOM number, I

362
00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:59,400
would take the seventeen points all day here. I know

363
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720
that you d Arena, I've been on a Friday night,

364
00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:06,079
that's awesome, electric U d Arena on a Wednesday at

365
00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,799
two pm might not have the same juice.

366
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,039
Speaker 2: Students not there.

367
00:19:10,599 --> 00:19:13,519
Speaker 1: So again I think I think there's absolutely number value

368
00:19:13,559 --> 00:19:15,200
on Fordham. It's the only way I could bet this

369
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,519
game from a spread perspective. I just don't know if

370
00:19:17,559 --> 00:19:21,359
I'll get to the window with it, but certainly gonna

371
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,480
be interesting to see how Dayton starts, you know, starts

372
00:19:24,519 --> 00:19:28,319
a ten play, because again I wasn't really impressed with

373
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,799
the Flyers in non conference play this year. Okay, we'll

374
00:19:33,799 --> 00:19:36,400
move on to another game in just a second. First

375
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,480
we have I guess I have you know I missed

376
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,480
my five percenter yesterday with with you masked for basketball,

377
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,000
but football has been tremendous for me. Over the last

378
00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:50,400
couple of months. I'm eight and one in my last

379
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,400
nine college football plays. I do have a college football

380
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,519
five percenter today. Football five percent in general for me

381
00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:00,039
have been awesome. I had the forty nine ers on.

382
00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:03,559
I joke with you, I'm like, I can't hit a

383
00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:05,559
free throw and to cover of basketball game to save

384
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,119
my life. But when I need to stop Caleb Williams

385
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,839
on the four yard line to close out forty nine

386
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,839
ers minus three.

387
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 2: No problem.

388
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 1: It's just how it's been running for me. Hopefully it

389
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,359
continues today. My big play will be in football today,

390
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,359
in college football. But I've already given you Syracuseton. I'm

391
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,279
gonna give out a lot of free basketball, whether it

392
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,400
be on the show or on my page at wager Talk,

393
00:20:30,519 --> 00:20:34,039
so that five percenters up at wager Talk. On that

394
00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:36,400
same page you can find free picks, and I'm gonna

395
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,720
post a couple of things there today. So check that out, Rob,

396
00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:40,759
Do you have anything to promote for the people here?

397
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 4: I will real quick. I'll go and kind of that

398
00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:46,480
same order, Adam.

399
00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 3: The Bowl season, obviously the next two days is huge.

400
00:20:50,519 --> 00:20:54,279
I have multiple best bet releases up and available on

401
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,960
my page, or I have one, but currently there will

402
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,920
be more.

403
00:20:57,759 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 4: Posted after the show.

404
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 3: But if you want to free look at the game

405
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,359
that goes at noon Eastern time, Iowa Vanderbilt, I do

406
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,000
have a solo video posted on wager Talk TV on

407
00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:13,279
this Iowa Vanderbilt game, which has taken a massive hit

408
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,000
this morning toward the underdog side. So if you want

409
00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:21,440
to get a free play with analysis on that particular game,

410
00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:23,720
go ahead and check it out on wager Talk TV. Again,

411
00:21:24,319 --> 00:21:27,720
college football best bet releases will be up, including one

412
00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:31,839
that's already there for this afternoon's action College Hoop.

413
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 4: I mentioned it to you, Adam.

414
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: The month of December has been so good, so if

415
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,359
you want to find college who plays, go ahead and

416
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,880
check out the homepage NBA NFL.

417
00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 4: I know you've had a good NFL season.

418
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,079
Speaker 3: We're probably both inside that top three because I know

419
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,079
I ranked number two regular season and number one overall

420
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,079
since preseason, so it's it's football has been good as well.

421
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,680
Check it all out wager talk dot com. Actually my

422
00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:59,720
homepage WT dot buzz slash RV.

423
00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:04,519
Speaker 1: All right, I got rob, I gotta so they put

424
00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:07,559
the joint package for us up. It's called double the

425
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,880
CBB Firepower but the thing is they were not going

426
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:13,319
So I'm gonna give you guys a.

427
00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: Little hack here.

428
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 1: That package is heavily discounted. It is three days. It's

429
00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:20,640
all the college hoop that myself and Rob Veno have

430
00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:24,359
for any three day stretch. But if you do it today,

431
00:22:24,799 --> 00:22:28,400
I think you can still use the site wide coupons

432
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,759
on it, even though it's heavily discounted, which you're not

433
00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,200
supposed to be able to do, so you can actually

434
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,599
get Originally that package would be one eighteen. It's already

435
00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:39,799
marked down to fifty nine. And if you go on

436
00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,519
and use like I think it's like new twenty five.

437
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,000
There's a couple of coupons that are still good until

438
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:50,839
midnight tonight, it cuts it down like considerably. So I

439
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,200
said I wouldn't mention it, but here I am mentioning it. Listen,

440
00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:56,200
there's only it's New Year's Eve. There's only like twelve

441
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,759
hours left for that baby good. So that will take that.

442
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,680
Like you're not supposed to get the double discount, I

443
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,799
guess is the thing. But they didn't want to have

444
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:06,799
to throw it up tomorrow when I think some people

445
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,000
might have the day off or you know, it's a holiday,

446
00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,799
so we put it up there today. It's heavily discounted

447
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,079
and you could use the site wide coupon on it,

448
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,480
so go do that if if you're looking for three

449
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:20,200
days of college hoops picks from us as I moving

450
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,000
around spastically here and messed up my camera, but we're here,

451
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:26,160
we are, We're back. That's up on both of our

452
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,559
page and you'll get everything for myself and Rob, which Rob,

453
00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:31,960
I think we do a thorough job in the analysis

454
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,799
on those plays, just like we do on this show.

455
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,000
So you know, check that out and hope, you know,

456
00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:40,440
we hope to have a good three day run whenever

457
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,680
you decide to do that. Plenty of games the next

458
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,839
three days, lots of day games, and we'd love to

459
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,039
have you riding along with us.

460
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:53,319
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to let's go to this one.

461
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: This is this, Let's go back to the ACC because Rob,

462
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,839
I feel like I was going to use this as

463
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:03,039
the feature until I, like, you know, kind of decided

464
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:05,079
I was going to bet Syracuse today and then hijack

465
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,359
the future segment to give out my play.

466
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: So let's do this. I want to talk Will Wade

467
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,720
for a second. This one goes at noon.

468
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: This is one where it's just like, to me, I

469
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,039
think NC State could destroy this team here. And I

470
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,880
guess what I want to get your take on is

471
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Will Wade and where this NI State team is at

472
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:28,960
right now? They go to Maui, they give up a

473
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,920
trillion point in the Maui Invitational. They come back and

474
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,880
have a couple of kind of heartbreaking results right the

475
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:41,200
Kansas game probably one that would have been a signature win.

476
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,400
Auburn was one they had a chance. And so now

477
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,279
they start conference play. To me, NC State looks better

478
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:53,480
than they did a month ago. And the kind of

479
00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,039
crazy thing about that is they have not gotten much

480
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,960
recently from Darien Williams, who didn't play against Texas Southern.

481
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:01,720
You at a best are you at a play in

482
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,079
that game? They scored a one twenty anyway for you

483
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,279
and he was relatively not relatively, he was very ineffective

484
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,599
against All Miss twenty seven minutes over eight from the field,

485
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,440
scored just one point. Where are you at on NC

486
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,680
State right now? Are you gonna lay this big number

487
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,319
with them? Do you think this is where you buy

488
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,519
Will Wide in the wolf Pack?

489
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: Well?

490
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:28,519
Speaker 3: Money again, money indicates the NC States the choice of

491
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:31,200
the people early on this morning eight and a half

492
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:35,920
opener now up to NC State minus ten in a

493
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:38,519
multitude of venues nine and a half ten. I even

494
00:25:38,559 --> 00:25:40,359
see a straight ten and a half out there. So

495
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,359
money's come in on NC State, I think, and again,

496
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:47,599
because I look at these games first from a totesst perspective.

497
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,839
What I don't understand here is the slight movement toward

498
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,720
under one fifty nine and a half down to one

499
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,480
fifty seven and a half. You know, I brought up

500
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:59,200
earlier the times of these games. Today, Adam, you brought

501
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,559
up the fact that a lot of these gyms in

502
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:05,079
the middle of the afternoon, what would be crowded at

503
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000
a night game with kids on campus, will be less

504
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:11,000
crowded or probably filled with As I know in Raleigh

505
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,880
because I have family down in Raleigh, it'll be filled

506
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,200
with a bunch of non students and they're gonna that

507
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:20,400
gym should stay. While it won't be as loud, it

508
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,759
will certainly be pretty much full for this ACC game.

509
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 4: But I don't understand the move toward under here. I

510
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,039
really don't.

511
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,039
Speaker 3: I think NC State, and listen, NC State could change

512
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,400
from now till mid February. We're gonna see a lot

513
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,759
of teams that we're talking about now, great offense, lousy defense,

514
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:41,839
et cetera, that in mid February will be saying the

515
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,400
exact opposite, because coaching will take effect at that point.

516
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,640
But I don't think NC State's a good defensive team

517
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,440
at this point in time, and the pace this game

518
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:51,640
is going to be played at, Steve Forbes's team still

519
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,039
goes up and down pretty quick. It's interesting to me,

520
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,839
Adam again that overall statistics can fool a lot of people.

521
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,079
Speaker 4: Right.

522
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,759
Speaker 3: For instance, Wake Forest coming into this game mid fifties

523
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,799
in the nation in three point defense allowed. But you

524
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,559
almost have to go back and dissect every single team

525
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,480
they've played. I mean, if you just go back one game,

526
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,400
you'll find Vanderbilt made sixteen of thirty two against them.

527
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,640
So how good are they really?

528
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,759
Speaker 4: They gave up fifty threes to Vandy, a team that

529
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,880
can shoot them. Guess what NC State can shoot them.

530
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: So I don't know that I take a lot of

531
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:30,079
credence with their three point defense. I don't know that

532
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,319
I put a lot of credence into any facet of

533
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,960
NC State's defense. I think they both want to get

534
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,240
up and down I think they both want to play

535
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,440
high octane. I don't know that either side defense. I

536
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,759
think both sides foul a lot. We'll see some free

537
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:47,480
throws here. You know, again, six weeks from now, if

538
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
this was a conference game where teams were jockeying for

539
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,799
conference tournament seedings, I might speak differently about it. But here,

540
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,119
I think one fifty seven and a half is too low.

541
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:02,519
Had hasn't made the client card could make what I

542
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:04,920
would call my personal you know, when I start opening

543
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,400
up apps a little later and making plays. Maybe I

544
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,960
make a play toward over here. But I just see

545
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240
this as a high scoring game. To ask these sides

546
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,480
to get somewhere in the vicinity, n C State's gonna

547
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,200
find mid eighties, I would almost guarantee wake Forest will

548
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,480
likely chase them in this game. Wake Forest is off

549
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:25,119
a really bad offensive performance against Vanderbilt. A little bounce

550
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,240
back there, Yeah, I see this one going over the total.

551
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:31,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

552
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Another thing Syracuse fans are just beside themselves about is

553
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,799
the fact that like Audrey pretty much ran Kadeer Copeland

554
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,920
out of town, like when he when he took over

555
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,960
for Beheim, and he's just been awesome, Like goes to

556
00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,960
McNee State Wade Wade brings them with him to NC State,

557
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,640
and like he's he's kind of like quietly been like

558
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,400
one of their best players this year. I'll go back

559
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,720
to the beginning of the season and just kind of

560
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,599
like kind of double I feel like triple down at

561
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,960
this point on something with that I've talked about at

562
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680
the beginning of the season. I'm really high on NC

563
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,039
State still, I still I don't think we've seen NC

564
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400
State play even close to their best ball. I think

565
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:17,640
the defense has been a concern and it probably still

566
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,160
will be. Rob like it's it. I'm not arguing with

567
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,240
an over at all here. I still think there's some

568
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,720
concerns on the defensive end, and you know, like the teams,

569
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:29,759
like I thought they defended pretty well in that Kansas game,

570
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,200
you know, held Kansas under eighty. I know Kansas didn't

571
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,359
have their full complement of players, but held Ole Miss

572
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,200
to sixty two. Like they're they're definitely making strides in

573
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920
that department. You know, if you if you, you know,

574
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,880
go back to again and like MAUI, it's like, dude,

575
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,519
do you how much can you even fault them for

576
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,440
giving up one h two to Texas in Maui when

577
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,200
like every three went in. They think they hit sixteen

578
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,519
threes in that game. I still think NC State's underrated,

579
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,559
Like if they get listen, if this team gets with

580
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:01,359
their suppor I used to get out of Darien Williams,

581
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,000
who's supposed to be their best player, is their best

582
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:06,880
player right like leads the team in scoring fourteen point

583
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,799
eight points per game. NC States are really good, like

584
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:15,440
nine and a half, which is where this opened was short.

585
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,680
Based on my number, I think I'd still lay ten.

586
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,359
I couldn't. Just I think it's the defense rob that

587
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,480
sort of scares me off a little bit from like

588
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,640
clicking NC State minus ten as a client play, knowing

589
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,640
that you know, wake Forest could kind of scrap around

590
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,039
and you know, get in there late. I think wake

591
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,440
Forest recently got destroyed to I think Vandy.

592
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

593
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,359
Speaker 1: I and way is that you know I've been to

594
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,519
noon games at a Lenovo Center used to be PNC Arena.

595
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,119
You're right, it's gonna be it's the same crowd. This

596
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,079
is not on campus, this is this is a lot

597
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:54,440
of this is just in Raleigh. You'll you'll get like

598
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,440
the same crowd that you would normally get. For this game,

599
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,559
I'll call it NC State by double digits. Probably won't

600
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:03,160
be client play, but I'll call it NC State double

601
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,079
digit win here for the wolf Pack. Okay, let's go

602
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:12,640
to let's go to a different We've talked some acc

603
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:16,720
let's get down to let's go to that sort of

604
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,799
primetime game that that I forget what network it is,

605
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:22,279
but one of the networks is going to put it

606
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:25,640
up against college football tonight. And that's over in the

607
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,160
Big East. Yesterday we talked about how, you know, kind

608
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,720
of this is not a great year for the Big

609
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:36,880
East outside of Yukon. It is uh, it's it's rough

610
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,079
and Marquette man again. They might need to they might

611
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:42,640
need to cancel the season at this point, Rob, they

612
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,240
might need to just hang it up. But a couple

613
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,519
of Big East teams that still have a reasonably good

614
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,920
outlook are going to play tonight. FS one Fox is

615
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,319
going to put it up against the football game eight pm.

616
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,799
It'll be the final game, Rob of the twenty twenty

617
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:01,680
five calendar year in college basketball. This one's in our

618
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:06,440
nation's capital, Washington, DC. And you know this was a

619
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,960
game last year. I think I think Saint John's at

620
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,440
one point was up like forty to ten against Georgetown.

621
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,039
From what I remember, it was not the best matchup

622
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:21,559
for Georgetown last year. However, I think this Georgetown team

623
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:23,640
has improved. And I'll kind of go back to what

624
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,119
I've said on multiple occasions. It always feels like Saint

625
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
John's is laying a premium number.

626
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:30,039
Speaker 2: Rob.

627
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 1: Why does this team continue to lay premium numbers when

628
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,680
they don't cover these big numbers, That's my question for you.

629
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just think it's brand name, right, It's

630
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:46,039
Rick Patino, It's Saint John's. It's Saint John's going into

631
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,519
the NCAA Tournament a couple of rounds last year. It's

632
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:52,279
Saint John's being highly recognized last year as a really

633
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,920
good team, and then the carryover that comes with it.

634
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,000
And I think it's a combo plan, right, It's it's

635
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:03,519
the man I hate to use the word squares, I

636
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:07,119
can't do that, but it's the public perception, I'll put

637
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,720
it that way, of Georgetown still not being back, not

638
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,079
recognized as being a better team this year. And there's

639
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,960
a couple of results that would keep you in that

640
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,640
camp if you were not a intense daily college basketball follower,

641
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,160
I mean, if you're Georgetown at this point in time,

642
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:29,880
what we've seen out of Xavier, which has been very

643
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,440
up and down.

644
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,279
Speaker 4: As soon as we thought they were good, they weren't.

645
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,759
You're at home and you lose to Xavier.

646
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: You play a good North Carolina team, you don't show up,

647
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,680
you lose by twenty. You play a good Miami team,

648
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:45,319
you don't show up, you lose by thirteen. You play Dayton,

649
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,400
who you just talked about being not one of your

650
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,599
favorite squads this season, and you lose to date in

651
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,839
a ot So you mix that with results like a

652
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,960
win over Clemson and a win against Maryland, who actually

653
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,279
Buzz Williams has had a difficult time at Maryland.

654
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,079
Speaker 4: But still you're getting the point here.

655
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: Georgetown has not lived up to the preseason expectations yet.

656
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Now I'm gonna take something you said early because I

657
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,320
thoroughly agree these slates all get white clean with conference

658
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,000
season and a lot of this stuff. This is why

659
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:22,559
it's difficult for me in the non conference preseason early

660
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:26,800
schedule is that these coaches, with the influx of players

661
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,199
nowadays and the new rosters, the roster turnover that you're

662
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,719
dealing with It's what I like to call experimentation, evaluation

663
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,119
time for a lot of these teams in preparation for

664
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,559
this game tonight and.

665
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,039
Speaker 4: Just coming from this area.

666
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: And I know yourself a New Yorker, but if I

667
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,719
go back forty some odd years, it's no different today

668
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,039
when Saint John's and Georgetown played the rivalry, the intensity,

669
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,679
et cetera, etc. Than it was when Luke Carniseca and

670
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,280
John Thompson were Roman the sidelines. Those teams were better,

671
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,840
but the int density is the same. This is a

672
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,480
big East, true rivalry. I think you'll see that type

673
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,800
of emotion, that type of intensity tonight. It would make

674
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,400
me very very leery of laying points with Saint John's,

675
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,559
who's still at them for what it's worth. I know

676
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,719
last year they wore a worst shooting team, but they

677
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,199
still haven't shown me that they were, you know, above

678
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,079
average shooting team yet. I know statistics say one thing,

679
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:24,880
but when you watch with your eyes, you see what

680
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960
you see. And I don't know that they're unless they're

681
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,480
creating a lot of steals and easy points. I don't

682
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,480
know that they're capable of huge separation against this particular

683
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,199
team because they don't turn it over. I think Georgetown

684
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,800
is number one in the country in turnover percentage committed.

685
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:44,400
They just don't turn it over. So with no easy

686
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,440
buckets for Saint John's, or at least a minimal amount

687
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,920
of easy buckets coming for Saint John's, I would have

688
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,480
to lean Georgetown in that game.

689
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, you know, we're a little reverse here.

690
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,360
Usually you're the one that comes in with a total lean.

691
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,559
And I'm like talking about the side here, I kind

692
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:06,800
of find that the number is is. You know, I've

693
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,760
talked about Saint John's having slightly inflated numbers this year,

694
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,320
but like my math here comes out, I'm pretty much

695
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,599
right at nine and a half where this opened. That

696
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,159
being said, the game I was referencing last year, there

697
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,800
was a point where like Georgetown was very late in

698
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,000
the first half and they only had eleven points against

699
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,639
the Saint John's defense. That game, I think these teams

700
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:29,639
may have played. I think they played twice last year. Yeah,

701
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,039
everyone in the Big East should should pretty much play twice.

702
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:37,639
But I'm pretty sure that both I don't remember the

703
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,760
other meeting as much, but one of them, Georgetown straight

704
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360
up could not score. They were down by thirty points

705
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,760
very quickly. And the point is if if they're gonna,

706
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:50,920
if they're gonna, if Georgetown's gonna be able to defend

707
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440
and get stops, Like, I'm pretty confident that Georgetown is

708
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,280
not gonna go off offensively against Saint John's and the

709
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,000
way they that they defend, So for me, a rare

710
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,800
kind of pretty strong total opinion, I would be shocked

711
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,880
if this one gets over this total, kind of like

712
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,480
the under here.

713
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:12,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think again to that point, Adam, as

714
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:15,480
I look and see that it's that the market went

715
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,119
the other way, and I think we pushed back against

716
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,000
the market with one a couple of days ago, one

717
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,199
fifty one up to one fifty five and a half

718
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,840
now as we speak. And again for Saint John's, let's

719
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,679
just take their side for a second.

720
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,119
Speaker 4: For them to score big, you know, you've got to

721
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:37,519
get into the eighties if you're gonna cover this number

722
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:38,800
or get this game over the total.

723
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: For them to get into the eighties, there's got to

724
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,280
be some easy points along the way, and I just

725
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,199
don't know with Georgetown's ability to handle the basketball that

726
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,960
there's going to be enough easy points to get their

727
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,480
score high enough. And Georgetown's high enough to get over.

728
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:55,400
Somebody thinks it's an over game. I don't know that

729
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
I would agree, but I do think nine.

730
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 4: To Georgetown is probably a little excess have in this case.

731
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be really have absolutely no idea why that

732
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,880
would move in that direction, especially where it opened, Like

733
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,760
it's not like it was a I mean, it was

734
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,039
already a pretty high number. Uh yeah, I would be

735
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:21,199
very I'm in very, very much disagreement with how the

736
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,639
market is seeing that game.

737
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: This feels like a low scoring, ugly.

738
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,599
Speaker 1: Ed Cooley trying to do anything he can to just

739
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,519
like make this a game that you want to turn

740
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,039
off and go to the football game. Like that's that's

741
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,679
what I think, you know, the game plan will be

742
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,079
for Georgetown. He wants an ugly game, low scoring. I

743
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:45,119
think that's Georgetown's path that the covering as well. I

744
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:48,039
gotta throw this common up, Joe, Joe, You're right, Joe

745
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,760
Barbino probably the the you know, the understatement of the

746
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:57,360
of the chat right now, Yukon They're going to absolutely

747
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,440
just run rough shot through the Big East year like this.

748
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:04,760
I mean, Rob, it's gonna be like, what do you say,

749
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,159
I think I make the line you can't to to

750
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,000
not lose a Big East game.

751
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:12,159
Speaker 2: I think i'd have it like minus one point fifty.

752
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:17,079
Speaker 1: I really think it's like that high Like who who is?

753
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:18,679
Speaker 2: Like who are they even they? Who would they even

754
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,079
be an underdog too? No? One?

755
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,679
Speaker 1: Probably they gotta be favored in every single game, right,

756
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,960
And it's like we're at the point and I'll segue

757
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,840
here into this game five pm on the Peacock app.

758
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,039
Speaker 2: So get your apps ready.

759
00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta have seventeen apps to make sure

760
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,239
you can watch all your games. But like I'm looking

761
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,199
through this schedule and then you know, you start to

762
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,440
look at so they win their Big East opener against

763
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,719
DePaul Butler was no, no, no problem, nineteen point win. Again,

764
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,639
we're a little bit of ways into the Big East

765
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:51,519
schedule now, but like you look at like these are

766
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:53,880
the types of games, Like if ukond is going to

767
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,679
lose a game in the Big East, you have to

768
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,679
think it's Friday night at Saint John's at MSG, right,

769
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,320
Like these are the types of games. But the problem

770
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,360
is outside of like Saint John's, I don't know, maybe

771
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000
Seaton Hall could be tricky, like for a road trip,

772
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Like are these teams like these are the types of

773
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,119
games that typically could could represent a slip up right,

774
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,239
the Xaviers, the Marquettes, the you know, the Providences, the

775
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,400
Georgetown Nova. Yukon's a twelve point road favorite here at Xavier.

776
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,440
I mean, they very well might run the table in

777
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,360
this conference this year. As far as this game is concerned,

778
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:39,320
you know, we've talked about Patino. I am impressed with

779
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,400
what he's done relative to what this team looked like

780
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,880
the first couple of weeks of the season. Rob, Do

781
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,679
they have enough juice to keep it within twelve with

782
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400
you know, one of the best teams in the country here?

783
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,599
Speaker 4: My thought is no. And I'll tell you why, Adam.

784
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 3: When they made the run a couple of years ago,

785
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,639
and they think they played Candia State for the national championship,

786
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,920
I believe it was. But during that run, what Yukon

787
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:08,840
was great at was the game is close, close, close,

788
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,320
and within four minutes it's not close anymore. They would

789
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,880
separate so fast that it make your head spin, and

790
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,760
the other team had no chance to get in. And

791
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:25,400
their opportunity here tonight, defensively and offensively to create separation

792
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,840
with one three and a half four minute burst is.

793
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,719
I don't want to say definitely going to happen, but

794
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,960
it's extremely possible against this Xavier team, which against this

795
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:41,960
defense I feel, will have offensive lulls, will have offensive

796
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,960
turnover spells, will have limited.

797
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:47,679
Speaker 4: Rebounding on their offensive end.

798
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: I don't see Xavier getting a lot of second chances

799
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,880
against Yukon with the paris centers that they have, So

800
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,000
for me, it's just a matter of time in this game.

801
00:41:58,079 --> 00:41:59,920
Is it going to happen first half? Is it gonna

802
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:00,360
have happened?

803
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: Second half?

804
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: You're not gonna out coach Dan Hurley. Xavier is not

805
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,840
gonna out athlete Connecticut. I think anything Xavier can do,

806
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,679
Connecticut does better, maybe twofold, maybe threefold. And we've talked

807
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,360
about the depth at them. This is the thing because

808
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,599
if even if Connecticut gets into foul trouble, the guys

809
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,199
coming off the bench to replacements, it's like having two

810
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:24,039
first team years.

811
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 4: And in all.

812
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:28,679
Speaker 3: Honesty, and I don't want to sound, you know, like

813
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,679
a like an Inquirer headline, so to speak, National Acquirer headline,

814
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,159
but the second team at Yukon could maybe push the

815
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:38,360
first team at Xavier for starting positions.

816
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:39,679
Speaker 4: I mean it's that good.

817
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 3: So even if you have guys, you know, I'm sure

818
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,119
Hurley's going to disperse minutes the right way, but their

819
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:49,400
ability to score, their ability to defend, their ability to

820
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,239
create margin, tells me this is at least an eighteen

821
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,079
point game in favor of you. Something in the realm

822
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,480
of you know, eighty four to sixty six wouldn't surprise

823
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,480
me in this game, I would think, you know, and

824
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:06,000
again we're looking at I'm just staring at these line movements.

825
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,960
You kind of open twelve down to eleven and a half.

826
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440
I mean, I don't know. It's not my money, so

827
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:15,519
good luck to the guy whose money it is or

828
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,760
people whose money it is. But I don't think I

829
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,880
would be taking points with Xavier here.

830
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 4: Home or not.

831
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, my you know, I'm not a big

832
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,840
you know how I bet, and you know it's not

833
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,280
generally my style to come out and lay twelve on

834
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,440
the road day game on New Year's Eve, like maybe

835
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,079
a spot not fully focused, but like that's the only

836
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:41,960
thing I would do here.

837
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,039
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you. I was. I was closer

838
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,280
to fifteen on the number for this one.

839
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: So the fact that you can actually get you can

840
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,840
get eleven and a half at sees it like a

841
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,800
lot of these places are eleven and a half right now.

842
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:56,119
Kind of feels like a bargain for just just if

843
00:43:56,119 --> 00:43:59,840
you're looking at like the caliber of team that you

844
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,400
can is against what Xaviers, which again Xaviors, they're going

845
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,000
in the right direction in my opinion, right, but this

846
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,159
is like, I mean, this is the scenario where the

847
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,800
only the only way Yukon in my opinion, doesn't win

848
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,519
by double digits is if they're so uninterested in this

849
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:18,920
game that they just like go through the motions and

850
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:22,159
win by eight or something like that. Right, So, like

851
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,320
do you really want to bet, Like would you really

852
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,639
want to take Xavier in that sort of you know,

853
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,840
under those circumstances, Like I just don't think there's any

854
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,000
chance Xavier wins this game, and I think the window

855
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:36,599
of like being able to cover is probably small. Like

856
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,760
you said, sort of feels like there's a knockout punch

857
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,199
for Yukon at at at some point.

858
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,679
Speaker 2: Joe Joe Joey.

859
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: Cheese here is and he's a you know, I agree,

860
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,440
you know, he goes back to my original comment, Like Stuart,

861
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,719
you know MSG is going to be all Yukon fans.

862
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,840
There won't be any Yukon fans in Cincinnati day are

863
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,239
probably very few. But he says, no cap champ six

864
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,880
to ten bench wins the Big East. I mean it's

865
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,800
a ambitious comment, but like, let's put it this way.

866
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,079
Their their bench might win the Big East this year.

867
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,559
They're not gonna go un beaten, but they could certainly

868
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:10,880
win the league. With the state of the league right now,

869
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,880
it's like slickvick Yukon's offense is an impressive thing. Is

870
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,880
like Yukon doesn't even need to play their best offensive

871
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,800
game to win this game by double digits. Like that

872
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,199
is the the gap between Yukon and Xavier right now.

873
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:26,880
I had this fifteen, I could only lay the points

874
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,079
with the with the Huskies here.

875
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, not just add that.

876
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,079
Speaker 3: You know, if you're playing Xavier, we've talked about long layoffs.

877
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,519
In the month of December, Yukon's had ten days off.

878
00:45:44,599 --> 00:45:47,800
Maybe some rust, I don't know, it's just knowing Dan Hurley,

879
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,079
I'm sure he's ridden this team hard towards this game,

880
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:55,159
no matter who xaviers Xavier eleven days off. So Richard

881
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:58,000
Patinos obviously used that as practice time as well. I

882
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,599
just Mike Tyson had the famous say, you know, you

883
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,639
always have a game plan until you get punched them out.

884
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:04,360
The think Xavier will have a game plan until they

885
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,840
get out on the floor and realize we don't have

886
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,079
the personnel. And I think to start the season it

887
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:12,440
was you who talked about their lack of personnel. Really,

888
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,599
it's just not a Xavier team. It's a good coach

889
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:18,199
trying to make some headway, but I don't see it happening.

890
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 4: And for the for the comment.

891
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: Of offense is not impressive so far, man, I don't know.

892
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,440
I think they've got some pretty impressive offensive players. Maybe

893
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,960
we haven't seen the best of Yukon's offense as of yet,

894
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,519
but led by Caravan and Solo, Ball and Demorie and

895
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,840
then with Braylen Mullins the freshman doing what he's doing already,

896
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,199
kind of think Yukon has a lot in the tank here.

897
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, the only thing so, yeah, they do not

898
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,119
have the personnel. Patino knows they don't like. This is

899
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,280
very much a this year is very much a build

900
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,480
for next year. So the one positive I'll say about

901
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:03,199
Xavier here is that they they may they're probably playing

902
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,320
this game with house money right from the tip where

903
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,440
it's like they expect to get killed.

904
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,079
Speaker 2: There's no pressure on them, like they can literally.

905
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: I think Richard Patino is kind of like, you know,

906
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,239
creative the atmosphere there, or at least a mentality like,

907
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,840
you know, we want to have some fun this year,

908
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,559
keep it light.

909
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: Like when they lost that game, he goes.

910
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: To Twitter and says defense f minus right, administrative staff

911
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,079
a plus like But the problem with that is at

912
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:34,159
some point, lack of talent does matter. Just go look

913
00:47:34,159 --> 00:47:36,920
at the Creighton score from the other day, Sintas Center,

914
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,679
ninety eight to fifty seven, Creighton on that floor. So

915
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,000
it's like to me, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to

916
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,840
bet that, Like Xavier just has their day here. I'd

917
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,559
much rather roll with just the far superior side in Yukon.

918
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:53,480
All right, Rob, we've we've still got time. Here's what

919
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,559
we're gonna do. Since I've already locked my parley leg

920
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:56,840
and I want to go to one more game. A

921
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,440
couple people have asked about this one, and then we'll

922
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,599
have plenty of time. I'm for you to have the

923
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:03,960
floor for your parlay pick reason I want to bring

924
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,760
this game up is. There's some differing opinions on this

925
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,760
one in the chat, and I kind of I had

926
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,719
my own sort of tough time with this game, and

927
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,199
it ultimately kept it off.

928
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,079
Speaker 2: I thought I was really gonna like North Texas today.

929
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,599
They were as high as eleven and a half earlier.

930
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,039
Speaker 1: You know, I don't love Penny Hardaway as a big favorite,

931
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,360
and North Texas has always been a kind of a

932
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,039
team that I've gravitated toward as an underdog, scrappy underdog.

933
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:34,679
I feel like I feel like they typically play Memphis tough.

934
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:38,639
But what ultimately kept me off Rob is Ross Hodge

935
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:41,599
is now in West Virginia, right. This is a slightly

936
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,559
different North Texas team. I don't know that they're as

937
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:49,239
good defensively as they were during the Hodge or certainly

938
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:55,159
the McCaslin years, And so to me, it's like and

939
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:58,719
the other thing, Rob Memphis, just that this team knows

940
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,039
how to rip my heart out do it. Every time

941
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:04,480
I fade Memphis, they find a way to cover by

942
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:09,360
a half point. So I really leaned heavily toward North

943
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,760
Texas plus eleven and a half, I missed that number.

944
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,159
Speaker 2: It's now down to ten. And a half.

945
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I might if this gets back to eleven, maybe I

946
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,679
jump in because I do think that's a lot of

947
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,079
points in the game that's likely slow. But I want

948
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,079
to get your take on this, North Texas. Do you

949
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:27,679
like the side or the total? How do you feel

950
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:29,079
about Penny as a big favorite today?

951
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: Well, I agree with a lot of the sentiments you

952
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,280
have right there, Adam, It's difficult for me to ever

953
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,599
lay points with Penny. It's almost like, and we've talked

954
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:41,079
a lot about Penny hardaway this season, but it.

955
00:49:41,039 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 4: Is like there's a distinct role.

956
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:49,039
Speaker 3: Where he's best and it's as the underdog against a

957
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,320
sort of like a power team or an elite team

958
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,800
where Memphis, which generally does have the athleticism to match

959
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,320
up in most cases, the perform real Well, then you

960
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:05,119
want to lay huge points with them, and their lack

961
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:08,719
of shooting shows up. They start breaking things, they don't

962
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,599
shoot free, et cetera, et cetera with Memphis. So whenever

963
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,079
they're in this price range, the initial look for me

964
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:17,239
would be toward the underdog, even though I'm not a

965
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,679
huge side player. And when you have a team like

966
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,360
North Texas, and again I think you spelled it out

967
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,559
really well that they're just not the same exact defensive

968
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,360
minded team, but they're still in that mold like slow,

969
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:37,360
methodical play, d limit possessions and four. During Hardaway's tenure

970
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,679
at Memphis, they seem to fall into those traps. And

971
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,000
Memphis is another one of those teams where.

972
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 4: It's hard to.

973
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: Get their fingerprint, so to speak, or their thumb print

974
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,159
or their identity because when they need to play fast,

975
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,599
they're capable of playing fast. When a team comes at

976
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,480
them with slow, they don't handle it real well. I

977
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:00,000
just if it were me and I were going to look,

978
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:01,280
and I were going to bet, I would look to

979
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,360
the dog side here. And I think Memphis is always

980
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,320
happy to win by eight rather than eleven, et cetera

981
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:09,280
on down the line, So for.

982
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 4: Me it would be that way.

983
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,559
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be high scoring because again, like

984
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:14,920
I said earlier, Memphis generally falls into the trap of

985
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,960
the slower team, whether it be on their own floor,

986
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,519
whether it be on the road, they rebound it well.

987
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,239
I would think that the underdog would be the side

988
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,880
that I would look at. Again, didn't play, but I'll

989
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,559
hold the floor here while I have it and just

990
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,159
give you a second leg of the parlay, so we

991
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:33,519
can get that out of the way real quick. And

992
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,840
I'll go to a favorite of ours where I think, Man,

993
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,199
I mean, these team totals when I scan the board

994
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,719
overnight and early morning, there seems to always be one

995
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,840
that pops out to me as kind of low, even

996
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,480
though the number itself might sound might not sound low,

997
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:51,760
but it seems low to me. And I'm going to

998
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,840
go to fran McCaffery and Penn, the Penn Quakers. It's

999
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,639
on the extra board.

1000
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 4: They play n J I t today.

1001
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,119
Speaker 2: It's my guy.

1002
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: That's my guy, and Franz got the offense sparking a

1003
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,920
little bit. I mean, Penn's played better recently in an

1004
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,760
overall sense. But I'm just gonna list to you. I mean,

1005
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,400
njiit you talked about earlier. It's a bad basketball team

1006
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,559
and they're susceptible to a really fast tempo, good shooting.

1007
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:20,719
In this case, Penn is a three point shooting team.

1008
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,760
Much in the Mold don't have Iowa's athletes, don't get

1009
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,760
me wrong, but he's building, you know, kind of the

1010
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,199
same style that he built at Iowa. Njit gave up

1011
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,920
eighty six to Navy ninety four to Cincinnati, one o

1012
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:37,440
four to Louisville, eighty nine to High Point, one oh

1013
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,400
one to Butler and the Kicker, eighty one to Fairleigh Dickinson.

1014
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:45,360
For Penn to get to eighty three here on their

1015
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,280
home floor against a team that they should find a

1016
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,599
ton of open looks against and probably knock those down,

1017
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:54,480
I don't see any reason why they can't get to

1018
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:56,840
eighty three in this game. It seems to me that

1019
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:01,800
it's a game where I think a couple of times

1020
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,159
in my analysis of these team totals, I have said

1021
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:08,679
that it's a game where the coach wants to just

1022
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,559
stop somebody.

1023
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: I think we did that with Will Wade that night.

1024
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 3: Right Will Wade was po'ed about his defense and they

1025
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,920
came back and scored that one oh two or one

1026
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,320
hundred plus that night. I think McCaffrey just wants to

1027
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,800
step on somebody here. And he's never been one to

1028
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,639
let off the gas. If they're up by twenty, he'd

1029
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,679
just assumed be up by thirty. It's a team that

1030
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,800
won't slow down. So for me, team total here today,

1031
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,000
guys at NJI T Penn, I'm taking Penn at home

1032
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,920
team total over eighty two and a half.

1033
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listen.

1034
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,119
Speaker 1: The reason Fran McCaffrey is my guy, of course, is

1035
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:49,280
he provided Siana College now Sianna University with the best

1036
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,840
years in the history of the program. He was Siana

1037
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,559
said coach for five years because the three NCAA tournaments

1038
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,000
beat teams like Vanderbilt, Ohio State, and I happen to

1039
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,159
be a student during that time. So it was just,

1040
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,199
you know, I've always I'm always gonna be a Fran

1041
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,000
McCaffrey guy.

1042
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: Who are one hundred percent right that.

1043
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: He he does have that like, you know, he's gonna

1044
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,480
want to blow someone out to you know, Penn, to

1045
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:15,719
their credit. So what I want to point out about

1046
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,280
this game is they've been without Ethan Roberts. Okay, Ethan

1047
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,760
Roberts is the best. He is like the hub of

1048
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,800
their offense. He is their best scorer by a by

1049
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,480
a mile. And without him, so we're you know, rob

1050
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,079
We've made this point where it's like the further removed

1051
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:34,599
you get from a guy being out, the less that it's,

1052
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:39,199
the less impactful it is. But without Ethan Roberts, Penn

1053
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,920
lost to Rutgers by one and lost to George Mason

1054
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,800
by four both road games. They were in both games,

1055
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,280
I really didn't think the offense was looked like looked

1056
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,719
that different. Right the the Lafayette game where they barely

1057
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,800
won with the first game that he was out post

1058
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,519
uh he's been out with the concussion, was the one

1059
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,679
where I thought the offense had a hard time getting going.

1060
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,599
But even though the last two games they've only scored

1061
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:07,320
seventy and seventy nine points, that's on the road to

1062
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,480
a Big ten team, and that is on the road

1063
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,920
at George Mason, who is very, very good. You want

1064
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,559
to talk about you know, we touched on the A

1065
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,480
ten earlier. George Mason might be your A ten champs

1066
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,159
this year. Like some of those other teams being a

1067
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:22,239
little bit down might open the door for George Mason

1068
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,280
to win that league this year. So eighty three seventy nine,

1069
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,079
highly competitive game. You know, Penn falls just short and

1070
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:31,880
they were in that game every step of the way.

1071
00:55:32,679 --> 00:55:35,559
Speaker 2: I agree with you. They're at home here they kind

1072
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:36,039
of need to.

1073
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, they've lost for their last five, but the

1074
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:43,119
losses Hostra Nova, Rutgers, George Mason, like they're losing to

1075
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960
teams that are that are a cut above them in

1076
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:48,239
terms of like we talk about weight class, right like

1077
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,440
Hostra is sort of in their realm. But you know,

1078
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,719
teams like Villanova, Rutgers, George Mason are all going to

1079
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,000
represent a step up for them. NJI T is a

1080
00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:00,000
big step down. I mean, if you look at this

1081
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,360
Penn schedule this year, and I'm just looking at it quickly,

1082
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:07,119
this is probably the worst team they've played yet this year.

1083
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:11,320
This was the only team on their schedule that was easier,

1084
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,440
an easier matchup than n j I T was D

1085
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,280
three Row, in which they scored one hundred and twenty points.

1086
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,039
Right like that is that's the only team that I

1087
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,039
think would be rated worse. Like if you look at

1088
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,679
Ken Palm ratings and power ratings, nj I T should

1089
00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:28,760
be rated lower than any other team that Penn has

1090
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:29,480
played this year.

1091
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you.

1092
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: I think Penn might run them out, probably a twenty

1093
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,760
point win, So maybe you could lay it with Penn.

1094
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:38,840
But your team total, I think is good, and you've

1095
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,679
been so hot with the team totals. Who am I

1096
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,400
to question a Rob Vino team total at this point?

1097
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:47,199
So yeah, let's uh, let I like that one.

1098
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to you know, you brought up a

1099
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,119
point that I should have, but when we get up

1100
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,599
against the clock, I try and kind of cut out

1101
00:56:54,599 --> 00:56:56,280
half of this stuff that I want to say. But

1102
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,599
to your point about George Mason, to put into context,

1103
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:03,639
what's scoring seventy nine against George Mason is on the

1104
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,960
road in their building. That's one of the better defenses

1105
00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:09,519
that you know, and that's just one of the better

1106
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:10,519
mid major defenses.

1107
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way.

1108
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: When you put up seventy nine against them, you're actually

1109
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,159
doing something. And you know you talked about step down

1110
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:20,119
in class, et cetera. Even Rutgers strong defensive team just

1111
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:22,079
seems to make a lot of sense that Penn will

1112
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:24,719
get at least mid eighties here tonight.

1113
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,119
Speaker 1: Rob, Well, we'll give this, you know, we're gonna wrap

1114
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,639
it up and we've already got the parlay locked in.

1115
00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:31,519
Speaker 2: I'll recap it at.

1116
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: The end of the show, but so we can, you know,

1117
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,880
kind of finish the full handicap on Penn and J. T.

1118
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,440
Taylor asks, if we can't get team totals on the

1119
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,559
extra board, would you take full game over or pen

1120
00:57:41,719 --> 00:57:45,360
against the spread. My answer is pen against the spread

1121
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,039
because I think that they're pissed, and I think, going

1122
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,599
back to what you said, I feel like Fran and

1123
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,719
knowing having met Fran a number of times personally and

1124
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,679
just kind of knowing how he is, like, I think

1125
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,920
he's gonna be like, hey, like where we need this is.

1126
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,400
This has got to be a twenty point. This has

1127
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,599
got to be like keep the foot on the gas

1128
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:04,960
type win. So I would lay the points if I

1129
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,039
couldn't get the team total.

1130
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:06,719
Speaker 2: What about you?

1131
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,159
Speaker 1: Would you rather have the game total or the spread?

1132
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:10,599
If you can't get the team total.

1133
00:58:10,719 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: Well, game total means I have to trust NJIT to

1134
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,719
do their part. And if I get eighty five out

1135
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,400
of PEN, then I need sixty six out of NJIT,

1136
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:21,559
which isn't out of the realm of possibility.

1137
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 4: But the question is how much of a.

1138
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 3: Probability do you put in that happening. I would probably,

1139
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,920
you know, and again I didn't play it, but I'd

1140
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,039
probably be more comfortable on the pen side laying it.

1141
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,079
And one last thing I'm going to add to this, Adam,

1142
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:41,519
is that they their conference season starts next game, and

1143
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,280
these are all situational right They're going to play Princeton

1144
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,960
but the question is always do you throttle it down

1145
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:52,360
before conference season starts, or do you throttle it up

1146
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,960
so that your team goes into conference season on a

1147
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:57,400
high confident note. And I think this is a case

1148
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,960
where Fran throttles it up, wants to go into that

1149
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:05,320
Princeton game, certainly off of a confidence building Like if

1150
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,519
you beat I don't care who it is, If you

1151
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:09,119
beat him by thirty, you walk into your next game

1152
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:12,519
thinking you're pretty good. So I would think that Penn

1153
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,039
sidewise would be the way I would choose.

1154
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Ethan Roberts.

1155
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,239
Speaker 1: It was a concussion, so you never like he could

1156
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:22,519
pop up today and suddenly, I mean, he's probably worth

1157
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:23,960
three points to the number.

1158
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: Right, like you know, you never know.

1159
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,119
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to rush him back,

1160
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:29,480
but it wasn't like his injury was a concussion, And

1161
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,280
those things are tricky, like it's it's different for everyone,

1162
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:33,920
but I'm sure they want it.

1163
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: Listen, fran Is he wants him back out there.

1164
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: So if the second he's cleared, he's back on the court,

1165
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,920
that's not a it's not a physical injury like it's

1166
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,440
it's as soon as he's cleared he's playing, so keep

1167
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,239
an eye on that as well. His status could only

1168
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,079
help Penn and could only help the over and one

1169
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,000
more point. Tarique Francis, who was NJIT's best scorer last year.

1170
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:58,960
Now at Rutgers, they didn't really replace the scoring right.

1171
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,719
Speaker 2: Like they're they They've got guys.

1172
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: They can be scrappy at times, but scoring is not

1173
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,400
probably what you want to trust njiit to do. So

1174
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,320
I'm with you, Rob, I'm either I like that Penn

1175
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,920
team total. If you can't get pen on the team total,

1176
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:15,840
look for some way to incorporate pen spread, because I

1177
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,440
think they just do what they want in this game,

1178
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,519
all right, right at the top of the hour, Happy

1179
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:23,880
New Year everyone. We'll see you guys next year, which

1180
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,440
is tomorrow morning at ten am. For more full court

1181
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,400
press two team parlay Syracuse money line. For me, it's

1182
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,639
a two. It's a client play for me, but I

1183
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:35,360
did go plus two for the clients, so you know,

1184
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,679
just to we're gonna go moneyline for the parlay. Rob

1185
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,800
is gonna go pen team total over eighty two and

1186
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,079
a half. Let's see if we can hit another one

1187
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:47,519
to close the year out plus six point one six

1188
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,000
units on these this season. After yesterday's win and either way,

1189
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:52,920
we'll see you guys in the morning. Take care everyone,

1190
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:55,239
stay safe, Happy New Year, have a great night. We'll

1191
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:55,840
see in the morning.