Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is Wednesday, Happy New Year everybody.
The last show of twenty twenty five, Ravino. We hit
the parlay yesterday, a great call by you on the
under in Air Force Wyoming that was never close. He's
easy under and Seattle ended up pulling away for me
to hit the parlay leg. Unfortunately, despite having a great
number on UMass, my my five percenter fell short. But
you know what, we could continue to plug along. It's
a long season, and we flipped the calendar to twenty
twenty six tomorrow, but still one more day in twenty
twenty five to to try to add some units to
the twenty twenty five ledger and looking forward to breaking
down the games with you today.
Speaker 2: How's your week going so far?
Speaker 4: It's been.
Speaker 3: It was really good in college basketball, yes, because besides
the Wyoming Air Force total under, we also.
Speaker 4: Hit the Louisville team total over.
Speaker 3: Last night against cal Louisville gets to ninety. Number was
eighty three and a half. Looked a little soft, turned
out to be so. So college basketball has been really
good this month at them in excess of sixty four
percent wins in college hoops since December one. So the
month is provided. I think about twenty five units been
very very good, So we hope to keep that roll
in here today with again what's an excessively large card
with a whole bunch of early games on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 4: Is these kids look to get to the.
Speaker 3: Local gin mill at the time, you know, by the
time New Year's hits.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that and of course we've got a cater
to college football. I'm sure some of that has to
do with the this the college football playoff presuming tonight
and sort of getting the.
Speaker 2: Most of the stage. There's there's actually a pretty good game.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll probably get to it at some point
point that that's in that sort of primetime spot, but
I'm gonna start early. So we were we were kind
of joking off off air. You know, I don't know
if this is the feature game for everyone today, but
it's certainly the feature game, uh for me, or you know,
for a lot of people, uh that follow the ACC
that live in central New York, maybe that live in
South Carolina. Rob I got to point something out, So
Clemson Syracuse has become this like it's not a rivalry,
but I feel like Syracuse feel like.
Speaker 2: Treats it like a rivalry.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because Joe Girard left and
went to Clemson. Every year Clemson seems to be the
biggest football game on the schedule. These two teams are
not rivals. But I will say that Cus cares about
this game like it's a It's a bigger game than
it should be for Syracuse. Like just for whatever reason. Uh,
Clemson comes to the Dome today two pm, National TV,
Which is why I wanted to, you know, kind of
put this in the in the tops.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: I can't understate this is such a massive game for Syracuse.
Donnie Freeman is back. They've been they've been teasing his return, Rob,
like it's like a ww even yet right, Like they've
been running his return for weeks, like you know Undertaker
coming back at the pay per view. He comes out,
he warms up, he goes through the motions, you see
him out in the court, and then he doesn't play.
But that's all been by design. So you texted me,
You're like, man, Freeman might change some things him being back.
Speaker 2: Rob.
Speaker 1: I think he could have come back two weeks ago,
but I don't think there was any reason to play
him against stone Hill.
Speaker 2: Maybe he should have played him against Austra.
Speaker 1: That was a bad result for Syracuse, but we talked
about it yesterday. All is forgiven for teams like QUS.
If you can come out and do it in conference play,
I'll let you kick this one off to Syracuse get
it done in their ACC opener.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting matchup and the time obviously, yeah, I
mean no, these teams do play a whole bunch of
day games during their seasons, but when it's a Wednesday
afternoon to two o'clock, something just feels a little bit
different about it. They've been through preseason tournaments and whatnot
where time schedules are odds. So I don't know that
that right off the bat is going to have any
effect on any of these games that are played today,
with a whole bulk of them being played early. That
being said, the one thing that sticks out here drastically
like a sore thumb from a total's perspective is the
amount of unders being racked up by these two teams.
Syracuse team total one and seven to the under over
the course of their last eight games. You can attribute
a lot of that to Freeman's absence. I'm sure the
point spread record just one in four over the course
of their last five. But like you mentioned, everything changes
here conference season, best player back in the lineup.
Speaker 4: The one thing I worry about.
Speaker 3: With situations like this, and we talk about it a
lot the NBA on the NBA Show with colleague and
friend of our Ski profit that when you take a
key player and you get used to playing without them
for nine games, things do change, and then the team
starts to become cohesive without said player, and then they return,
and initially upon return, things don't always go smoothly. It's
a kind of a reintegration process into the lineup. So
while Freeman's return is a huge boost, you just don't
know how it's gonna go very first game out, especially
first half, if there's something that's gonna go wrong for sarahcuse,
if there's gonna be some miscommunication, et cetera, et cetera.
To me, it would be first half, get into the
locker room, everybody's settled again, come back second half. To
that extent, I think Clemson first half could be a
pretty good play here. Q's is gonna be a fired
up crowd, obviously, the atmosphere again we talk a lot
about venue proof. These ACC teams walk into these venues
all the time, not that huge of a deal. Especially
Brownell's had this team for quite some time. He's a
pretty settling coach. So to me, I would look two
ways here. I'd probably look toward the under in this contest.
I think both teams very good defensively in my mind,
and we've talked about Syracuse's ability to protect at the
rim before, so I think.
Speaker 4: That's good for both sides here.
Speaker 3: And for Brownell's team, they've sort of taken on the
identity that they had for the bulk of his tenure
here at Clemson to begin with. I mean he's been there,
I don't know how many years, but I'm going to
say about eighty percent of that they were spent being
a methodical, defensive, low scoring minded team, and then that
changed the.
Speaker 4: Last couple of years.
Speaker 3: They became a little bit better, high scoring, sort of
out of character for Brad brown now, but I think
they're back.
Speaker 4: To that type of team.
Speaker 3: Do have some conference fight for an opener here, which
to me usually breeds more defense, more tenaciousness on that
end of the floor. So I would probably look that
way as a full game under you're staring at one
forty two and a half. I would caution by saying this,
if you like under, I'd sit and wait. I'd sit
and wait because the more the minutes go by this morning,
the more the hours go by this morning up until
game time, more people are going to come in with
over because Donnie Freeman's playing. That's what's going to boost
this total up. And you get a better number, probably
closer to tip off than you do at this point.
But I would think it's probably a lower scoring game.
Low seventies wins it, and you could stick under one
forty two and a half. And I think Clemson first
half might be a look, I just don't trust. I've
seen it too many times. Your star player comes back
and the cohesiveness is sort of out a alter at
the beginning of the return. But maybe second half, Syracuse,
you can get a good number on that if you're
an in game guy.
Speaker 1: Well, Rob, I I do agree with that point from
a general standpoint, but I think in Syracuse's case, you
would have had to have a cohesive offense to begin with, right,
so it's like they're not you know, they're not losing
any offensive cohesiveness because this isn't a cohesive offense to
begin with. Actually, like if if Freeman is him is
one hundred and he's not on any sort of minutes
restriction and the and and.
Speaker 2: He's allowed to to you know, play his normal game.
Speaker 1: Uh, his his inclusion is a massive boost for Syracuse
because you know, you you are probably right about this
total and the way that this game is going to go.
It is like Syracuse they're all about defense this year.
They want to slow the game down. That there this
is not the Judah Mints Syracuse team that wants to
get up and down the floor and run. Uh.
Speaker 2: They they'd rather operate.
Speaker 1: In the half court and play like a slower, more
methodical game like Freeman lets you do that offensively, Like
that is that is when Donnie Freeman's on the floor,
Like that's the kind of game they'll likely play half
court and the goal will be to get the ball
to him and then guys like you know that the
shooters will kind of hang out and they'll they'll you know,
it'll be it'll be less, they'll have less to do.
Like right now, you've got a Syracuse offense that I
don't think has a true go to guy from a
scoring standpoint, but with Freeman on the floor, it can
definitely be him and and he gives them some some
half court juice in the offense at the other end
of the floor. And I've said this really since the
beginning of the really, since the players are a tournament
rob this Syracuse team can defend. William Kyle is a monster,
and the guards are like the defense, one hundred percent
man of man.
Speaker 2: They don't play zone anymore. So that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like when Audrey took over for Behind, he always wanted
to go man, but he just didn't have the guys
to play it, and he would revert back into what
became a very sloppy version of the two three that
sort of defined Syracuse for all those years. It's now
it's all Manda Man, William Kyle the third elite rim protector,
like elite post rim guy. They're gonna be able to
get stops against Clemson. I took Syracuse plus two. This
is gonna be my leg of the parlay earlier this morning.
He could have got two and a half at FanDuel.
I think I think Cus is going to go off
a favorite here. I think they actually are flipping to
favorite right now. So I've got Syracuse plus two for
the parlay. We're gonna go Syracuse money line. We'll just
call it. It's it's minus minus one. P. Fifteen looks
like is gonna be good for the parlay. I can't.
This game is so massive for Syracuse, Like Red Autrey's
gonna get run out of town. He might not get
to he might not get back to his car if
they lose this game.
Speaker 2: The fan base here has had enough.
Speaker 1: They they there's literally countdowns on Syracuse Twitter to hit
to him being fired, which would be coincide with the
end of the season, SENCA tournament or bust. And I
just think, like, stut, you know, you had the win
over Tennessee, put to follow it up with the loss
to Hostra like puts you back to square one. Syracuse
has to come out and have a good start to
conference play.
Speaker 2: They lost.
Speaker 1: So the game I referenced, I was at this game
two years ago. It was, of course, Joe Girard coming
back to the Dome. Audrey in a close game, decided
to let you know, decided to follow Gerard seven straight possessions,
let him close the.
Speaker 2: Game out on the line.
Speaker 1: Ninety plus percent pre throw shooter, huge disparity in coaching.
Autrey is a horrific coach. Okay, there's no doubt about that.
He's a bad coach. Brad Boudel, great coach. But I
do think this matchup and having Freeman back is a
very favorable to Syracuse. So this is a client play
for me, So for the for the you know, don't
give enough actual picks crowd.
Speaker 2: There you go, client play.
Speaker 1: Syracuse plus two parlay leg is gonna be Syracuse on
the money line.
Speaker 2: All right, we're off to a hot start here.
Speaker 1: We've already got a client play given out, first leg
of the parlay locked in, and uh, I think that's
a that's it's gonna be a big one today, National TV,
ESPN two two p m. Let's go to the chat
here and let's let's see there's a lot of uh, well,
we'll get to you know, there's a lot of big games.
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of the smaller ones. I I
gotta give, I gotta give my shot. My guy Sean.
I don't know if he's watching.
Speaker 1: Right now, uh, but he he tweeted at me a
minute ago, and he is a he is a big
Dayton fan, and I misread his tweet. He actually said, trigger,
we need more Dayton gear out of you on the show.
I actually have a I actually have a great Dayton hoodie.
Problem is they haven't given they haven't given me much
reason to wear it this season. I am a little
down on Dayton being like a power in the A ten.
I'm a little down on the A ten right like
you've got VCU in a transition year.
Speaker 2: Loyola Chicago has just been horrific.
Speaker 1: Absolutely what has had one of the worst non conferences
in recent memory for a team that was like actually
projected to be pretty good. But the A ten starts today.
Dayton is laying a big number to Fordham at the
ud Arena, one of my favorite places that I've been
to watch a game to this point. So Rob, talk
to me a little A ten hoops, do you have
anything for us on Fordham Dayton for seaw on Twitter?
Speaker 4: Well, we can say this right off the bat.
Speaker 3: Money has come in on Fordham eighteen down to sixteen
and a half probably rightfullys, So, Adam, I think you
can seriously question Fordham's schedule up until this point. I
mean you pointed out some concerns about Dayton, But you
could take this nine and four record that Fordham's posted.
You could all kinds of holes in it if you
want to do strength of schedule argument, because they just
haven't played anybody in the class of what they're going
to see here today, a bunch of Northeast type schools
that are middling, or I guess Iona would be the
best team that they've played so far.
Speaker 4: And you know Iona, they don't win that game on.
Speaker 3: The road either, So the question really in this one,
Adam becomes and I would fall into that category. By
the way, with Fordham, you know, strength of schedule does
matter in this contest. However, sixteen and a half matters
as well. The way they play at the temple that
they play, you can keep a game pretty slow and
limit possessions and sixteen and a half becomes larger. It's
interesting to me that Anthony Grant, who you know, for
the majority of his career Adam has been one of
these snail type pace coaches. But their games this year,
when you go through their log, are kind of sporadic, high.
Speaker 4: Scoring, low scoring, high scoring, low scoring.
Speaker 3: It's almost like Dayton doesn't have a true identity here, However,
they have played a much tougher schedule. To say this
is a severe step down in class, it might even
be an understatement from what Dayton has seen so far,
the likes of Cincinnati, the likes of BYU, Virginia, FSU, etc. So,
really the number becomes the great equalizer here, or in
my case, what you tend to look at is total.
This total here is one thirty seven and a half.
But I'm gonna do you one better. I really think
that in this instance, for Dayton to step down in
defensive class matters, they're on their home floor. I don't
know that Fordham will be able to walk it up
for forty minutes. That just doesn't seem likely, especially if
you're in chase mode. You have to try and catch
up by scoring buckets. Dayton's team total here is seventy
six and a half to me, seems a tick low.
If to see them get to seventy eight seventy nine here,
I don't think would be that much of a stretch
of the imagination.
Speaker 4: So if I were to play just for.
Speaker 3: Your buddy who who wants to know a little bit
about what I feel on this Dayton game and.
Speaker 4: What you feel I think Dayton team total.
Speaker 3: Is probably the way I would look in that game
up and over seventy six and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can't argue with that from a
total perspective. For you talked about Fordum's non conference schedule,
and it is a you know, you're talking about like
poking holes in that. I mean they I just have
to pull this up to make it sure. I think
they open their year with a loss to New Jersey
Institute of Technology. So you've got like nine and four.
I mean that is a horrific loss. That is a
bad team out of an America East conference, that's like
historically bad this year. Like that's you know, those types
of results are matt like massive concerns.
Speaker 2: I do. I did watch them play Iona.
Speaker 1: They were pretty implus in that game despite losing. But
like I guess, for me, this is Mike Magpio now
at Fordham. So it's like the what I so, where
my number is? I guess the point let me let
me backtrack a little bit. I'm showing like pretty serious
value on Fordham at seventeen. From if we're just doing
a straight handicapping numbers perspective, I've got this closer to thirteen.
But my my number this is Remember yesterday I said, man,
there's a handful of teams where my number is probably off, okay,
and I feel like Fordham is probably one of them.
Reason being very high on Magpio. I loved him in
his last stop, which was Riverside.
Speaker 2: You see Riverside I think he came from.
Speaker 4: Was West? Yeah, was that West?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fully expect him to like do well at Fordham,
but like it's clearly taking some It's clearly it could
take them a whole season. It could take them, you know,
two season. Right, you're talking about a Fordham team going
into the A ten. That's that's near the bottom of
the A ten in terms of like if you were
to power rate all these teams, and this is a
team that got beat by New Jersey Institute of Technology.
Was not really that competitive with Colgate, right, like kind
of kind of lost that game that was up in
a neutral court in Canada, but still like wasn't really
competitive with Colgate. And then they lose to holy Cross,
which is you know, holy Cross is in rebuilding mode
at the bottom of the Patriot legue eleven and a
half point underdog there. So yeah, that's that's really concerning
to me, like some of those non conference results, because now,
if you're Fordham, you're stepping up in class to take
on when you're when you're playing the top half of
the A ten, it's a pretty big jumping class. So
if I were totally trusting of my FORDOM number, I
would take the seventeen points all day here. I know
that you d Arena, I've been on a Friday night,
that's awesome, electric U d Arena on a Wednesday at
two pm might not have the same juice.
Speaker 2: Students not there.
Speaker 1: So again I think I think there's absolutely number value
on Fordham. It's the only way I could bet this
game from a spread perspective. I just don't know if
I'll get to the window with it, but certainly gonna
be interesting to see how Dayton starts, you know, starts
a ten play, because again I wasn't really impressed with
the Flyers in non conference play this year. Okay, we'll
move on to another game in just a second. First
we have I guess I have you know I missed
my five percenter yesterday with with you masked for basketball,
but football has been tremendous for me. Over the last
couple of months. I'm eight and one in my last
nine college football plays. I do have a college football
five percenter today. Football five percent in general for me
have been awesome. I had the forty nine ers on.
I joke with you, I'm like, I can't hit a
free throw and to cover of basketball game to save
my life. But when I need to stop Caleb Williams
on the four yard line to close out forty nine
ers minus three.
Speaker 2: No problem.
Speaker 1: It's just how it's been running for me. Hopefully it
continues today. My big play will be in football today,
in college football. But I've already given you Syracuseton. I'm
gonna give out a lot of free basketball, whether it
be on the show or on my page at wager Talk,
so that five percenters up at wager Talk. On that
same page you can find free picks, and I'm gonna
post a couple of things there today. So check that out, Rob,
Do you have anything to promote for the people here?
Speaker 4: I will real quick. I'll go and kind of that
same order, Adam.
Speaker 3: The Bowl season, obviously the next two days is huge.
I have multiple best bet releases up and available on
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Speaker 4: Posted after the show.
Speaker 3: But if you want to free look at the game
that goes at noon Eastern time, Iowa Vanderbilt, I do
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this morning toward the underdog side. So if you want
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go ahead and check it out on wager Talk TV. Again,
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Speaker 4: I mentioned it to you, Adam.
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Speaker 4: I know you've had a good NFL season.
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Check it all out wager talk dot com. Actually my
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Speaker 1: All right, I got rob, I gotta so they put
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So I'm gonna give you guys a.
Speaker 2: Little hack here.
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There's a couple of coupons that are still good until
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So you know, check that out and hope, you know,
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to let's go to this one.
Speaker 1: This is this, Let's go back to the ACC because Rob,
I feel like I was going to use this as
the feature until I, like, you know, kind of decided
I was going to bet Syracuse today and then hijack
the future segment to give out my play.
Speaker 2: So let's do this. I want to talk Will Wade
for a second. This one goes at noon.
Speaker 1: This is one where it's just like, to me, I
think NC State could destroy this team here. And I
guess what I want to get your take on is
Will Wade and where this NI State team is at
right now? They go to Maui, they give up a
trillion point in the Maui Invitational. They come back and
have a couple of kind of heartbreaking results right the
Kansas game probably one that would have been a signature win.
Auburn was one they had a chance. And so now
they start conference play. To me, NC State looks better
than they did a month ago. And the kind of
crazy thing about that is they have not gotten much
recently from Darien Williams, who didn't play against Texas Southern.
You at a best are you at a play in
that game? They scored a one twenty anyway for you
and he was relatively not relatively, he was very ineffective
against All Miss twenty seven minutes over eight from the field,
scored just one point. Where are you at on NC
State right now? Are you gonna lay this big number
with them? Do you think this is where you buy
Will Wide in the wolf Pack?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: Money again, money indicates the NC States the choice of
the people early on this morning eight and a half
opener now up to NC State minus ten in a
multitude of venues nine and a half ten. I even
see a straight ten and a half out there. So
money's come in on NC State, I think, and again,
because I look at these games first from a totesst perspective.
What I don't understand here is the slight movement toward
under one fifty nine and a half down to one
fifty seven and a half. You know, I brought up
earlier the times of these games. Today, Adam, you brought
up the fact that a lot of these gyms in
the middle of the afternoon, what would be crowded at
a night game with kids on campus, will be less
crowded or probably filled with As I know in Raleigh
because I have family down in Raleigh, it'll be filled
with a bunch of non students and they're gonna that
gym should stay. While it won't be as loud, it
will certainly be pretty much full for this ACC game.
Speaker 4: But I don't understand the move toward under here. I
really don't.
Speaker 3: I think NC State, and listen, NC State could change
from now till mid February. We're gonna see a lot
of teams that we're talking about now, great offense, lousy defense,
et cetera, that in mid February will be saying the
exact opposite, because coaching will take effect at that point.
But I don't think NC State's a good defensive team
at this point in time, and the pace this game
is going to be played at, Steve Forbes's team still
goes up and down pretty quick. It's interesting to me,
Adam again that overall statistics can fool a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: For instance, Wake Forest coming into this game mid fifties
in the nation in three point defense allowed. But you
almost have to go back and dissect every single team
they've played. I mean, if you just go back one game,
you'll find Vanderbilt made sixteen of thirty two against them.
So how good are they really?
Speaker 4: They gave up fifty threes to Vandy, a team that
can shoot them. Guess what NC State can shoot them.
Speaker 3: So I don't know that I take a lot of
credence with their three point defense. I don't know that
I put a lot of credence into any facet of
NC State's defense. I think they both want to get
up and down I think they both want to play
high octane. I don't know that either side defense. I
think both sides foul a lot. We'll see some free
throws here. You know, again, six weeks from now, if
this was a conference game where teams were jockeying for
conference tournament seedings, I might speak differently about it. But here,
I think one fifty seven and a half is too low.
Had hasn't made the client card could make what I
would call my personal you know, when I start opening
up apps a little later and making plays. Maybe I
make a play toward over here. But I just see
this as a high scoring game. To ask these sides
to get somewhere in the vicinity, n C State's gonna
find mid eighties, I would almost guarantee wake Forest will
likely chase them in this game. Wake Forest is off
a really bad offensive performance against Vanderbilt. A little bounce
back there, Yeah, I see this one going over the total.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another thing Syracuse fans are just beside themselves about is
the fact that like Audrey pretty much ran Kadeer Copeland
out of town, like when he when he took over
for Beheim, and he's just been awesome, Like goes to
McNee State Wade Wade brings them with him to NC State,
and like he's he's kind of like quietly been like
one of their best players this year. I'll go back
to the beginning of the season and just kind of
like kind of double I feel like triple down at
this point on something with that I've talked about at
the beginning of the season. I'm really high on NC
State still, I still I don't think we've seen NC
State play even close to their best ball. I think
the defense has been a concern and it probably still
will be. Rob like it's it. I'm not arguing with
an over at all here. I still think there's some
concerns on the defensive end, and you know, like the teams,
like I thought they defended pretty well in that Kansas game,
you know, held Kansas under eighty. I know Kansas didn't
have their full complement of players, but held Ole Miss
to sixty two. Like they're they're definitely making strides in
that department. You know, if you if you, you know,
go back to again and like MAUI, it's like, dude,
do you how much can you even fault them for
giving up one h two to Texas in Maui when
like every three went in. They think they hit sixteen
threes in that game. I still think NC State's underrated,
Like if they get listen, if this team gets with
their suppor I used to get out of Darien Williams,
who's supposed to be their best player, is their best
player right like leads the team in scoring fourteen point
eight points per game. NC States are really good, like
nine and a half, which is where this opened was short.
Based on my number, I think I'd still lay ten.
I couldn't. Just I think it's the defense rob that
sort of scares me off a little bit from like
clicking NC State minus ten as a client play, knowing
that you know, wake Forest could kind of scrap around
and you know, get in there late. I think wake
Forest recently got destroyed to I think Vandy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I and way is that you know I've been to
noon games at a Lenovo Center used to be PNC Arena.
You're right, it's gonna be it's the same crowd. This
is not on campus, this is this is a lot
of this is just in Raleigh. You'll you'll get like
the same crowd that you would normally get. For this game,
I'll call it NC State by double digits. Probably won't
be client play, but I'll call it NC State double
digit win here for the wolf Pack. Okay, let's go
to let's go to a different We've talked some acc
let's get down to let's go to that sort of
primetime game that that I forget what network it is,
but one of the networks is going to put it
up against college football tonight. And that's over in the
Big East. Yesterday we talked about how, you know, kind
of this is not a great year for the Big
East outside of Yukon. It is uh, it's it's rough
and Marquette man again. They might need to they might
need to cancel the season at this point, Rob, they
might need to just hang it up. But a couple
of Big East teams that still have a reasonably good
outlook are going to play tonight. FS one Fox is
going to put it up against the football game eight pm.
It'll be the final game, Rob of the twenty twenty
five calendar year in college basketball. This one's in our
nation's capital, Washington, DC. And you know this was a
game last year. I think I think Saint John's at
one point was up like forty to ten against Georgetown.
From what I remember, it was not the best matchup
for Georgetown last year. However, I think this Georgetown team
has improved. And I'll kind of go back to what
I've said on multiple occasions. It always feels like Saint
John's is laying a premium number.
Speaker 2: Rob.
Speaker 1: Why does this team continue to lay premium numbers when
they don't cover these big numbers, That's my question for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just think it's brand name, right, It's
Rick Patino, It's Saint John's. It's Saint John's going into
the NCAA Tournament a couple of rounds last year. It's
Saint John's being highly recognized last year as a really
good team, and then the carryover that comes with it.
And I think it's a combo plan, right, It's it's
the man I hate to use the word squares, I
can't do that, but it's the public perception, I'll put
it that way, of Georgetown still not being back, not
recognized as being a better team this year. And there's
a couple of results that would keep you in that
camp if you were not a intense daily college basketball follower,
I mean, if you're Georgetown at this point in time,
what we've seen out of Xavier, which has been very
up and down.
Speaker 4: As soon as we thought they were good, they weren't.
You're at home and you lose to Xavier.
Speaker 3: You play a good North Carolina team, you don't show up,
you lose by twenty. You play a good Miami team,
you don't show up, you lose by thirteen. You play Dayton,
who you just talked about being not one of your
favorite squads this season, and you lose to date in
a ot So you mix that with results like a
win over Clemson and a win against Maryland, who actually
Buzz Williams has had a difficult time at Maryland.
Speaker 4: But still you're getting the point here.
Speaker 3: Georgetown has not lived up to the preseason expectations yet.
Now I'm gonna take something you said early because I
thoroughly agree these slates all get white clean with conference
season and a lot of this stuff. This is why
it's difficult for me in the non conference preseason early
schedule is that these coaches, with the influx of players
nowadays and the new rosters, the roster turnover that you're
dealing with It's what I like to call experimentation, evaluation
time for a lot of these teams in preparation for
this game tonight and.
Speaker 4: Just coming from this area.
Speaker 3: And I know yourself a New Yorker, but if I
go back forty some odd years, it's no different today
when Saint John's and Georgetown played the rivalry, the intensity,
et cetera, etc. Than it was when Luke Carniseca and
John Thompson were Roman the sidelines. Those teams were better,
but the int density is the same. This is a
big East, true rivalry. I think you'll see that type
of emotion, that type of intensity tonight. It would make
me very very leery of laying points with Saint John's,
who's still at them for what it's worth. I know
last year they wore a worst shooting team, but they
still haven't shown me that they were, you know, above
average shooting team yet. I know statistics say one thing,
but when you watch with your eyes, you see what
you see. And I don't know that they're unless they're
creating a lot of steals and easy points. I don't
know that they're capable of huge separation against this particular
team because they don't turn it over. I think Georgetown
is number one in the country in turnover percentage committed.
They just don't turn it over. So with no easy
buckets for Saint John's, or at least a minimal amount
of easy buckets coming for Saint John's, I would have
to lean Georgetown in that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, you know, we're a little reverse here.
Usually you're the one that comes in with a total lean.
And I'm like talking about the side here, I kind
of find that the number is is. You know, I've
talked about Saint John's having slightly inflated numbers this year,
but like my math here comes out, I'm pretty much
right at nine and a half where this opened. That
being said, the game I was referencing last year, there
was a point where like Georgetown was very late in
the first half and they only had eleven points against
the Saint John's defense. That game, I think these teams
may have played. I think they played twice last year. Yeah,
everyone in the Big East should should pretty much play twice.
But I'm pretty sure that both I don't remember the
other meeting as much, but one of them, Georgetown straight
up could not score. They were down by thirty points
very quickly. And the point is if if they're gonna,
if they're gonna, if Georgetown's gonna be able to defend
and get stops, Like, I'm pretty confident that Georgetown is
not gonna go off offensively against Saint John's and the
way they that they defend, So for me, a rare
kind of pretty strong total opinion, I would be shocked
if this one gets over this total, kind of like
the under here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think again to that point, Adam, as
I look and see that it's that the market went
the other way, and I think we pushed back against
the market with one a couple of days ago, one
fifty one up to one fifty five and a half
now as we speak. And again for Saint John's, let's
just take their side for a second.
Speaker 4: For them to score big, you know, you've got to
get into the eighties if you're gonna cover this number
or get this game over the total.
Speaker 3: For them to get into the eighties, there's got to
be some easy points along the way, and I just
don't know with Georgetown's ability to handle the basketball that
there's going to be enough easy points to get their
score high enough. And Georgetown's high enough to get over.
Somebody thinks it's an over game. I don't know that
I would agree, but I do think nine.
Speaker 4: To Georgetown is probably a little excess have in this case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be really have absolutely no idea why that
would move in that direction, especially where it opened, Like
it's not like it was a I mean, it was
already a pretty high number. Uh yeah, I would be
very I'm in very, very much disagreement with how the
market is seeing that game.
Speaker 2: This feels like a low scoring, ugly.
Speaker 1: Ed Cooley trying to do anything he can to just
like make this a game that you want to turn
off and go to the football game. Like that's that's
what I think, you know, the game plan will be
for Georgetown. He wants an ugly game, low scoring. I
think that's Georgetown's path that the covering as well. I
gotta throw this common up, Joe, Joe, You're right, Joe
Barbino probably the the you know, the understatement of the
of the chat right now, Yukon They're going to absolutely
just run rough shot through the Big East year like this.
I mean, Rob, it's gonna be like, what do you say,
I think I make the line you can't to to
not lose a Big East game.
Speaker 2: I think i'd have it like minus one point fifty.
Speaker 1: I really think it's like that high Like who who is?
Speaker 2: Like who are they even they? Who would they even
be an underdog too? No? One?
Speaker 1: Probably they gotta be favored in every single game, right,
And it's like we're at the point and I'll segue
here into this game five pm on the Peacock app.
Speaker 2: So get your apps ready.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta have seventeen apps to make sure
you can watch all your games. But like I'm looking
through this schedule and then you know, you start to
look at so they win their Big East opener against
DePaul Butler was no, no, no problem, nineteen point win. Again,
we're a little bit of ways into the Big East
schedule now, but like you look at like these are
the types of games, Like if ukond is going to
lose a game in the Big East, you have to
think it's Friday night at Saint John's at MSG, right,
Like these are the types of games. But the problem
is outside of like Saint John's, I don't know, maybe
Seaton Hall could be tricky, like for a road trip,
Like are these teams like these are the types of
games that typically could could represent a slip up right,
the Xaviers, the Marquettes, the you know, the Providences, the
Georgetown Nova. Yukon's a twelve point road favorite here at Xavier.
I mean, they very well might run the table in
this conference this year. As far as this game is concerned,
you know, we've talked about Patino. I am impressed with
what he's done relative to what this team looked like
the first couple of weeks of the season. Rob, Do
they have enough juice to keep it within twelve with
you know, one of the best teams in the country here?
Speaker 4: My thought is no. And I'll tell you why, Adam.
Speaker 3: When they made the run a couple of years ago,
and they think they played Candia State for the national championship,
I believe it was. But during that run, what Yukon
was great at was the game is close, close, close,
and within four minutes it's not close anymore. They would
separate so fast that it make your head spin, and
the other team had no chance to get in. And
their opportunity here tonight, defensively and offensively to create separation
with one three and a half four minute burst is.
I don't want to say definitely going to happen, but
it's extremely possible against this Xavier team, which against this
defense I feel, will have offensive lulls, will have offensive
turnover spells, will have limited.
Speaker 4: Rebounding on their offensive end.
Speaker 3: I don't see Xavier getting a lot of second chances
against Yukon with the paris centers that they have, So
for me, it's just a matter of time in this game.
Is it going to happen first half? Is it gonna
have happened?
Speaker 4: Second half?
Speaker 3: You're not gonna out coach Dan Hurley. Xavier is not
gonna out athlete Connecticut. I think anything Xavier can do,
Connecticut does better, maybe twofold, maybe threefold. And we've talked
about the depth at them. This is the thing because
if even if Connecticut gets into foul trouble, the guys
coming off the bench to replacements, it's like having two
first team years.
Speaker 4: And in all.
Speaker 3: Honesty, and I don't want to sound, you know, like
a like an Inquirer headline, so to speak, National Acquirer headline,
but the second team at Yukon could maybe push the
first team at Xavier for starting positions.
Speaker 4: I mean it's that good.
Speaker 3: So even if you have guys, you know, I'm sure
Hurley's going to disperse minutes the right way, but their
ability to score, their ability to defend, their ability to
create margin, tells me this is at least an eighteen
point game in favor of you. Something in the realm
of you know, eighty four to sixty six wouldn't surprise
me in this game, I would think, you know, and
again we're looking at I'm just staring at these line movements.
You kind of open twelve down to eleven and a half.
I mean, I don't know. It's not my money, so
good luck to the guy whose money it is or
people whose money it is. But I don't think I
would be taking points with Xavier here.
Speaker 4: Home or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, my you know, I'm not a big
you know how I bet, and you know it's not
generally my style to come out and lay twelve on
the road day game on New Year's Eve, like maybe
a spot not fully focused, but like that's the only
thing I would do here.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you. I was. I was closer
to fifteen on the number for this one.
Speaker 1: So the fact that you can actually get you can
get eleven and a half at sees it like a
lot of these places are eleven and a half right now.
Kind of feels like a bargain for just just if
you're looking at like the caliber of team that you
can is against what Xaviers, which again Xaviors, they're going
in the right direction in my opinion, right, but this
is like, I mean, this is the scenario where the
only the only way Yukon in my opinion, doesn't win
by double digits is if they're so uninterested in this
game that they just like go through the motions and
win by eight or something like that. Right, So, like
do you really want to bet, Like would you really
want to take Xavier in that sort of you know,
under those circumstances, Like I just don't think there's any
chance Xavier wins this game, and I think the window
of like being able to cover is probably small. Like
you said, sort of feels like there's a knockout punch
for Yukon at at at some point.
Speaker 2: Joe Joe Joey.
Speaker 1: Cheese here is and he's a you know, I agree,
you know, he goes back to my original comment, Like Stuart,
you know MSG is going to be all Yukon fans.
There won't be any Yukon fans in Cincinnati day are
probably very few. But he says, no cap champ six
to ten bench wins the Big East. I mean it's
a ambitious comment, but like, let's put it this way.
Their their bench might win the Big East this year.
They're not gonna go un beaten, but they could certainly
win the league. With the state of the league right now,
it's like slickvick Yukon's offense is an impressive thing. Is
like Yukon doesn't even need to play their best offensive
game to win this game by double digits. Like that
is the the gap between Yukon and Xavier right now.
I had this fifteen, I could only lay the points
with the with the Huskies here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not just add that.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're playing Xavier, we've talked about long layoffs.
In the month of December, Yukon's had ten days off.
Maybe some rust, I don't know, it's just knowing Dan Hurley,
I'm sure he's ridden this team hard towards this game,
no matter who xaviers Xavier eleven days off. So Richard
Patinos obviously used that as practice time as well. I
just Mike Tyson had the famous say, you know, you
always have a game plan until you get punched them out.
The think Xavier will have a game plan until they
get out on the floor and realize we don't have
the personnel. And I think to start the season it
was you who talked about their lack of personnel. Really,
it's just not a Xavier team. It's a good coach
trying to make some headway, but I don't see it happening.
Speaker 4: And for the for the comment.
Speaker 3: Of offense is not impressive so far, man, I don't know.
I think they've got some pretty impressive offensive players. Maybe
we haven't seen the best of Yukon's offense as of yet,
but led by Caravan and Solo, Ball and Demorie and
then with Braylen Mullins the freshman doing what he's doing already,
kind of think Yukon has a lot in the tank here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, the only thing so, yeah, they do not
have the personnel. Patino knows they don't like. This is
very much a this year is very much a build
for next year. So the one positive I'll say about
Xavier here is that they they may they're probably playing
this game with house money right from the tip where
it's like they expect to get killed.
Speaker 2: There's no pressure on them, like they can literally.
Speaker 1: I think Richard Patino is kind of like, you know,
creative the atmosphere there, or at least a mentality like,
you know, we want to have some fun this year,
keep it light.
Speaker 2: Like when they lost that game, he goes.
Speaker 1: To Twitter and says defense f minus right, administrative staff
a plus like But the problem with that is at
some point, lack of talent does matter. Just go look
at the Creighton score from the other day, Sintas Center,
ninety eight to fifty seven, Creighton on that floor. So
it's like to me, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to
bet that, Like Xavier just has their day here. I'd
much rather roll with just the far superior side in Yukon.
All right, Rob, we've we've still got time. Here's what
we're gonna do. Since I've already locked my parley leg
and I want to go to one more game. A
couple people have asked about this one, and then we'll
have plenty of time. I'm for you to have the
floor for your parlay pick reason I want to bring
this game up is. There's some differing opinions on this
one in the chat, and I kind of I had
my own sort of tough time with this game, and
it ultimately kept it off.
Speaker 2: I thought I was really gonna like North Texas today.
They were as high as eleven and a half earlier.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't love Penny Hardaway as a big favorite,
and North Texas has always been a kind of a
team that I've gravitated toward as an underdog, scrappy underdog.
I feel like I feel like they typically play Memphis tough.
But what ultimately kept me off Rob is Ross Hodge
is now in West Virginia, right. This is a slightly
different North Texas team. I don't know that they're as
good defensively as they were during the Hodge or certainly
the McCaslin years, And so to me, it's like and
the other thing, Rob Memphis, just that this team knows
how to rip my heart out do it. Every time
I fade Memphis, they find a way to cover by
a half point. So I really leaned heavily toward North
Texas plus eleven and a half, I missed that number.
Speaker 2: It's now down to ten. And a half.
Speaker 1: I might if this gets back to eleven, maybe I
jump in because I do think that's a lot of
points in the game that's likely slow. But I want
to get your take on this, North Texas. Do you
like the side or the total? How do you feel
about Penny as a big favorite today?
Speaker 3: Well, I agree with a lot of the sentiments you
have right there, Adam, It's difficult for me to ever
lay points with Penny. It's almost like, and we've talked
a lot about Penny hardaway this season, but it.
Speaker 4: Is like there's a distinct role.
Speaker 3: Where he's best and it's as the underdog against a
sort of like a power team or an elite team
where Memphis, which generally does have the athleticism to match
up in most cases, the perform real Well, then you
want to lay huge points with them, and their lack
of shooting shows up. They start breaking things, they don't
shoot free, et cetera, et cetera with Memphis. So whenever
they're in this price range, the initial look for me
would be toward the underdog, even though I'm not a
huge side player. And when you have a team like
North Texas, and again I think you spelled it out
really well that they're just not the same exact defensive
minded team, but they're still in that mold like slow,
methodical play, d limit possessions and four. During Hardaway's tenure
at Memphis, they seem to fall into those traps. And
Memphis is another one of those teams where.
Speaker 4: It's hard to.
Speaker 3: Get their fingerprint, so to speak, or their thumb print
or their identity because when they need to play fast,
they're capable of playing fast. When a team comes at
them with slow, they don't handle it real well. I
just if it were me and I were going to look,
and I were going to bet, I would look to
the dog side here. And I think Memphis is always
happy to win by eight rather than eleven, et cetera
on down the line, So for.
Speaker 4: Me it would be that way.
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be high scoring because again, like
I said earlier, Memphis generally falls into the trap of
the slower team, whether it be on their own floor,
whether it be on the road, they rebound it well.
I would think that the underdog would be the side
that I would look at. Again, didn't play, but I'll
hold the floor here while I have it and just
give you a second leg of the parlay, so we
can get that out of the way real quick. And
I'll go to a favorite of ours where I think, Man,
I mean, these team totals when I scan the board
overnight and early morning, there seems to always be one
that pops out to me as kind of low, even
though the number itself might sound might not sound low,
but it seems low to me. And I'm going to
go to fran McCaffery and Penn, the Penn Quakers. It's
on the extra board.
Speaker 4: They play n J I t today.
Speaker 2: It's my guy.
Speaker 3: That's my guy, and Franz got the offense sparking a
little bit. I mean, Penn's played better recently in an
overall sense. But I'm just gonna list to you. I mean,
njiit you talked about earlier. It's a bad basketball team
and they're susceptible to a really fast tempo, good shooting.
In this case, Penn is a three point shooting team.
Much in the Mold don't have Iowa's athletes, don't get
me wrong, but he's building, you know, kind of the
same style that he built at Iowa. Njit gave up
eighty six to Navy ninety four to Cincinnati, one o
four to Louisville, eighty nine to High Point, one oh
one to Butler and the Kicker, eighty one to Fairleigh Dickinson.
For Penn to get to eighty three here on their
home floor against a team that they should find a
ton of open looks against and probably knock those down,
I don't see any reason why they can't get to
eighty three in this game. It seems to me that
it's a game where I think a couple of times
in my analysis of these team totals, I have said
that it's a game where the coach wants to just
stop somebody.
Speaker 4: I think we did that with Will Wade that night.
Speaker 3: Right Will Wade was po'ed about his defense and they
came back and scored that one oh two or one
hundred plus that night. I think McCaffrey just wants to
step on somebody here. And he's never been one to
let off the gas. If they're up by twenty, he'd
just assumed be up by thirty. It's a team that
won't slow down. So for me, team total here today,
guys at NJI T Penn, I'm taking Penn at home
team total over eighty two and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listen.
Speaker 1: The reason Fran McCaffrey is my guy, of course, is
he provided Siana College now Sianna University with the best
years in the history of the program. He was Siana
said coach for five years because the three NCAA tournaments
beat teams like Vanderbilt, Ohio State, and I happen to
be a student during that time. So it was just,
you know, I've always I'm always gonna be a Fran
McCaffrey guy.
Speaker 2: Who are one hundred percent right that.
Speaker 1: He he does have that like, you know, he's gonna
want to blow someone out to you know, Penn, to
their credit. So what I want to point out about
this game is they've been without Ethan Roberts. Okay, Ethan
Roberts is the best. He is like the hub of
their offense. He is their best scorer by a by
a mile. And without him, so we're you know, rob
We've made this point where it's like the further removed
you get from a guy being out, the less that it's,
the less impactful it is. But without Ethan Roberts, Penn
lost to Rutgers by one and lost to George Mason
by four both road games. They were in both games,
I really didn't think the offense was looked like looked
that different. Right the the Lafayette game where they barely
won with the first game that he was out post
uh he's been out with the concussion, was the one
where I thought the offense had a hard time getting going.
But even though the last two games they've only scored
seventy and seventy nine points, that's on the road to
a Big ten team, and that is on the road
at George Mason, who is very, very good. You want
to talk about you know, we touched on the A
ten earlier. George Mason might be your A ten champs
this year. Like some of those other teams being a
little bit down might open the door for George Mason
to win that league this year. So eighty three seventy nine,
highly competitive game. You know, Penn falls just short and
they were in that game every step of the way.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. They're at home here they kind
of need to.
Speaker 1: You know, they've lost for their last five, but the
losses Hostra Nova, Rutgers, George Mason, like they're losing to
teams that are that are a cut above them in
terms of like we talk about weight class, right like
Hostra is sort of in their realm. But you know,
teams like Villanova, Rutgers, George Mason are all going to
represent a step up for them. NJI T is a
big step down. I mean, if you look at this
Penn schedule this year, and I'm just looking at it quickly,
this is probably the worst team they've played yet this year.
This was the only team on their schedule that was easier,
an easier matchup than n j I T was D
three Row, in which they scored one hundred and twenty points.
Right like that is that's the only team that I
think would be rated worse. Like if you look at
Ken Palm ratings and power ratings, nj I T should
be rated lower than any other team that Penn has
played this year.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1: I think Penn might run them out, probably a twenty
point win, So maybe you could lay it with Penn.
But your team total, I think is good, and you've
been so hot with the team totals. Who am I
to question a Rob Vino team total at this point?
So yeah, let's uh, let I like that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to you know, you brought up a
point that I should have, but when we get up
against the clock, I try and kind of cut out
half of this stuff that I want to say. But
to your point about George Mason, to put into context,
what's scoring seventy nine against George Mason is on the
road in their building. That's one of the better defenses
that you know, and that's just one of the better
mid major defenses.
Speaker 4: Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: When you put up seventy nine against them, you're actually
doing something. And you know you talked about step down
in class, et cetera. Even Rutgers strong defensive team just
seems to make a lot of sense that Penn will
get at least mid eighties here tonight.
Speaker 1: Rob, Well, we'll give this, you know, we're gonna wrap
it up and we've already got the parlay locked in.
Speaker 2: I'll recap it at.
Speaker 1: The end of the show, but so we can, you know,
kind of finish the full handicap on Penn and J. T.
Taylor asks, if we can't get team totals on the
extra board, would you take full game over or pen
against the spread. My answer is pen against the spread
because I think that they're pissed, and I think, going
back to what you said, I feel like Fran and
knowing having met Fran a number of times personally and
just kind of knowing how he is, like, I think
he's gonna be like, hey, like where we need this is.
This has got to be a twenty point. This has
got to be like keep the foot on the gas
type win. So I would lay the points if I
couldn't get the team total.
Speaker 2: What about you?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have the game total or the spread?
If you can't get the team total.
Speaker 3: Well, game total means I have to trust NJIT to
do their part. And if I get eighty five out
of PEN, then I need sixty six out of NJIT,
which isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 4: But the question is how much of a.
Speaker 3: Probability do you put in that happening. I would probably,
you know, and again I didn't play it, but I'd
probably be more comfortable on the pen side laying it.
And one last thing I'm going to add to this, Adam,
is that they their conference season starts next game, and
these are all situational right They're going to play Princeton
but the question is always do you throttle it down
before conference season starts, or do you throttle it up
so that your team goes into conference season on a
high confident note. And I think this is a case
where Fran throttles it up, wants to go into that
Princeton game, certainly off of a confidence building Like if
you beat I don't care who it is, If you
beat him by thirty, you walk into your next game
thinking you're pretty good. So I would think that Penn
sidewise would be the way I would choose.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, Ethan Roberts.
Speaker 1: It was a concussion, so you never like he could
pop up today and suddenly, I mean, he's probably worth
three points to the number.
Speaker 2: Right, like you know, you never know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to rush him back,
but it wasn't like his injury was a concussion, And
those things are tricky, like it's it's different for everyone,
but I'm sure they want it.
Speaker 2: Listen, fran Is he wants him back out there.
Speaker 1: So if the second he's cleared, he's back on the court,
that's not a it's not a physical injury like it's
it's as soon as he's cleared he's playing, so keep
an eye on that as well. His status could only
help Penn and could only help the over and one
more point. Tarique Francis, who was NJIT's best scorer last year.
Now at Rutgers, they didn't really replace the scoring right.
Speaker 2: Like they're they They've got guys.
Speaker 1: They can be scrappy at times, but scoring is not
probably what you want to trust njiit to do. So
I'm with you, Rob, I'm either I like that Penn
team total. If you can't get pen on the team total,
look for some way to incorporate pen spread, because I
think they just do what they want in this game,
all right, right at the top of the hour, Happy
New Year everyone. We'll see you guys next year, which
is tomorrow morning at ten am. For more full court
press two team parlay Syracuse money line. For me, it's
a two. It's a client play for me, but I
did go plus two for the clients, so you know,
just to we're gonna go moneyline for the parlay. Rob
is gonna go pen team total over eighty two and
a half. Let's see if we can hit another one
to close the year out plus six point one six
units on these this season. After yesterday's win and either way,
we'll see you guys in the morning. Take care everyone,
stay safe, Happy New Year, have a great night. We'll
see in the morning.