Speaker 1: Is uh sports fans, We're back for another episode of
Speaker 1: Fire Up. This is a fourth of July edition. Happy,
Speaker 1: Happy fourth everyone. Hopefully everyone's got their food and them
Speaker 1: they're being safe, they're having fun with it with their friends,
Speaker 1: their family, and hopefully some of you are joining us
Speaker 1: for some shenanigans here tonight. Obviously not the normal crew.
Speaker 1: Scott and Katy will be back someday next week, will
Speaker 1: be back to back to the normal routines for all
Speaker 1: of us. But I wanted to get this last one
Speaker 1: in there. Obviously, you know, we had a didn't get
Speaker 1: it in last night. But me and Benner Benner here
Speaker 1: tonight to have some fun, you know, kick the cane
Speaker 1: down the road, you know, shoot shoot the ship, so
Speaker 1: to speak.
Speaker 2: So first and foremost, brother, how how is your fourth?
Speaker 2: How was the food? How was the family? My friend?
Speaker 3: I mean, the fourth was good.
Speaker 4: We kept a real symbole, you know, hot dogs, hamburgers,
Speaker 4: big beans, chips, you know, I mean, uh, we kept
Speaker 4: you know, I mean I kept a real symbol because
Speaker 4: number one, number one two things I know how to do.
Speaker 4: I know how to grill right, and I know how
Speaker 4: to get out the way. I don't I don't do
Speaker 4: too much. But I will say to see y'all people
Speaker 4: on social media, stop taking pictures of these struggled grilled plates.
Speaker 3: If you cannot grill, what are you documenting for?
Speaker 4: Why do you gotta like when you say things like, man,
Speaker 4: look at this plate right here, I'm like, do.
Speaker 3: That plate look burnt? Everything on that plate? I don't
Speaker 3: know the difference.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a hamburger, a hot dog,
Speaker 4: a rib or chicken, because it all looks cajun aka burnt.
Speaker 3: But we got it, We got it in you know all.
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, you know my kids, man, they
Speaker 4: they simple man, I mean hot dogs, hamburgers, chips, baked mean,
Speaker 4: something to drink, Thank you God, blessing, good night. And
Speaker 4: we we we we we'll we'll. I mean my wife
Speaker 4: will go all in with the potato salad sometimes, you know,
Speaker 4: with the maca chiefs. But kept it simple, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Hot day, it wasn't really no good
Speaker 4: time to get out there and grill unless you did
Speaker 4: it in the morning. You know, we caught, we caught,
Speaker 4: We caught that a heat in the afternoon. But they
Speaker 4: but incredible and another day above, another day above ground
Speaker 4: is always good, they would be seeing so hey, man
Speaker 4: enjoyed the fourth How was yours?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 2: About the same?
Speaker 1: Man kept Captain simple and your just me Mom and
Speaker 1: the and the missus. You know, little little little barbecue
Speaker 1: chicken wings, you know, little potato salad, you know, burgers talk.
Speaker 1: You know, the normal, the normal stuff, the simple stuff,
Speaker 1: the fun stuff. My friend you know got uh you know,
Speaker 1: had a little fruit platter. You know, you know, had
Speaker 1: a little cake just about a few minutes on here
Speaker 1: before we uh got my mom got her cake, you know,
Speaker 1: me and the missus hats had some cheesecake, so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, got some food in us right right before this.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you can hear it, they
Speaker 2: going crazy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh y oh, yeah, yeah, I hear. I
Speaker 4: hear the I hear the face seam in the background.
Speaker 4: You just you just can't hear. It's almost like they
Speaker 4: trying to out They're trying to out compete each other
Speaker 4: in my neighborhood. You know, they trying to see who
Speaker 4: just cause list the police they ain't gonna come over here,
Speaker 4: because what are they gonna say. I mean, somebody told
Speaker 4: them somebody to say y'all, y'all living too loud. That
Speaker 4: wasn't my house, sir. We can see the smoke coming
Speaker 4: from your backyard, but that's barbecue.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, yeah, I have a friend, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, me and my girl known for you know,
Speaker 1: you know, over twenty years.
Speaker 2: Every year he goes right up to the park.
Speaker 1: That's like I've been a ride from here, and he
Speaker 1: sets off, you know, more than a couple of grands
Speaker 1: worth fire of fireworks.
Speaker 2: It goes on for, you know, almost a good half hour.
Speaker 1: By the time he's got the he's got the police,
Speaker 1: uh calls times out perfect.
Speaker 2: By the time they get there, everything's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all right, cool too. A couple of grand
Speaker 4: of five words, you better shoot them off. You better
Speaker 4: shoot off every last one of them. That's what's up.
Speaker 4: That's what's up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He he doesn't the right way, and you know, he
Speaker 1: makes sure everyone in the neighborhood know. He gives him
Speaker 1: a time like listen, like we going out there, like
Speaker 1: nine fifteen, So make sure you're already, make sure you
Speaker 1: got your kids up there, because we in, we out,
Speaker 1: we're going.
Speaker 4: And pleasy and pleasy and pleasy, say with a bunch
Speaker 4: of the Patriots, buddy, But daddy, we get some Now
Speaker 4: we're going to be a nine the team. Man, my home,
Speaker 4: we gonnahit. He gonna hook it up. We're gonna we're
Speaker 4: gonna watch it. And then when I.
Speaker 1: Used to, I used to I used to throw them,
Speaker 1: throw some money and do stuff separately, the kids.
Speaker 2: But you're right, man's what's the point of it?
Speaker 1: Now he's like he's literally got a got a trove
Speaker 1: over there. I mean, he makes some of some of
Speaker 1: these pop up stories tell us so there ain't there
Speaker 1: ain't no point of it. But uh, I want to
Speaker 1: get into it. I want to get it, get in
Speaker 1: the habits of fun. We're gonna get right into right
Speaker 1: into this one. First and foremost. You know, obviously last
Speaker 1: weekend was uh Jake Paul's real first fight again against
Speaker 1: a legit boxer. You know, I obviously everyone talks about
Speaker 1: Tommy story fight that feels like it was ten years
Speaker 1: ago at this point in time.
Speaker 2: But you know, yesterday the news broke that he has
Speaker 2: been detained by Ice.
Speaker 1: And you know potentially you know, being processed for time
Speaker 1: for you know, accusations. At this point in time, it's
Speaker 1: it's listen, We're in a real weird time. I don't
Speaker 1: know how. He just has a boxing fight last weekend
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, we we we turned around
Speaker 1: here less than you know, you know, seventy two hours.
Speaker 2: Later, and you know, he's being he's being detained by ice.
Speaker 1: I have, you know, an issue with this whole thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the accusations are true. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Julier Sage Sharks As Senior had had made a
Speaker 1: had made a statement this more this morning.
Speaker 2: I think he put it out out there on accent.
Speaker 1: He was very adamant that his son, you know, is
Speaker 1: in guilty of the things that he's being accused.
Speaker 2: Of, and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: All media athletes and light of the events and statements
Speaker 1: issued by the US Authority CHAVE, the shaz family wishes
Speaker 1: to express the follow in.
Speaker 2: Our family is deeply dis made by the current situation.
Speaker 2: In these difficult times.
Speaker 1: We reaffirm our total and unconditional support for Julio. We
Speaker 1: fully trusted his innocence and his human integrity, as well
Speaker 1: as the institutions of justice are both in Mexico and
Speaker 1: the United States. When we place our hope that the
Speaker 1: situation will be clarified in cordance with with with the
Speaker 1: law and the truth.
Speaker 2: Julio is, above all a son of father.
Speaker 1: Human being who has been facing numerous challenges personal and
Speaker 1: professional in his life. As a family, we respectfully requests
Speaker 1: that the due legal process grant him and that the
Speaker 1: premature judgments that harment his dignity and those who are
Speaker 1: around him avoided. We sincerely appreciate the interest from coverage
Speaker 1: of the media, but we appeal to to your sensitivity
Speaker 1: and understanding respect our decision to to issue for no
Speaker 1: further statements with this at this time, he firmly believed
Speaker 1: that the appropriate course of actions for for for the
Speaker 1: content authority to carry out their work without external pressures
Speaker 1: or speculation. We pray prompt revolution that clarifies facts and
Speaker 1: favorfully or reiterate are called to prudence, respect and objectivity attentively.
Speaker 4: The shows man, yeah, it's it's it's unfortunate. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's who else is our shot? Junior situation is unfortunately
Speaker 4: talking about that. Actually when they accused him of overstaying
Speaker 4: his visa, lying on his application, Uh that here's.
Speaker 1: His application, all right, so on there like He didn't lie.
Speaker 2: There's nothing he lied about he made.
Speaker 1: Maybe his visa did expire, and you know, work like
Speaker 1: there is a there's that definitely a fine line between
Speaker 1: work visa and and and athletes who who come in
Speaker 1: our country to to fight professionally and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: There are differences in that nature. But he did not
Speaker 2: do anything.
Speaker 1: Wrong on his fighters license. I know a couple of
Speaker 1: people posting some things up. I literally went over with
Speaker 1: a fine to co. There's even if he did have
Speaker 1: a warrant through Mexico, that's not anything that is on
Speaker 1: his fighter's license. Maybe that that there was something they
Speaker 1: could rebroke his visa. But how is he having a
Speaker 1: you know, this big fight that everyone's known for for
Speaker 1: months and all of a sudden, now where we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna arrest him. I haven't unlessen. The timing of
Speaker 1: this is really weird, and I have an issue with it.
Speaker 3: I have an issue with it as well. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's been he's been here for a long time.
Speaker 4: I mean they say he lives in like, you know,
Speaker 4: in a in like a well to do a neighborhood
Speaker 4: out there, and you know, out there in Los Angeles, Uh,
Speaker 4: he's a he's a well known box I mean he's
Speaker 4: a I mean he's a he's a legacy fighter, and
Speaker 4: obviously he's gonna I do believe he's gonna get due process.
Speaker 4: But I do a bit with you, Steve at the time,
Speaker 4: and it's crazy if you knew about this before the
Speaker 4: fight and you let him fight and then you arrest
Speaker 4: him after the fight. It all looks like one big
Speaker 4: publicity stunt when it comes to to Julio. But the
Speaker 4: one thing Julio's gonna have is gonna have representation. They
Speaker 4: are deporting him back to Mexico for which we don't
Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen when he gets there. But I
Speaker 4: just I understand that ICE has a job to do,
Speaker 4: and I understand this, and I understand it's a very
Speaker 4: difficult one to do. Like no one understands what ICE
Speaker 4: deal with as far as like their family members and
Speaker 4: the and and and the people who are employed by ICE.
Speaker 4: It just don't look right. It's almost like what it
Speaker 4: like like seriously, and said, let me get this straight.
Speaker 4: And I'm not getting political at all. I thought ICE
Speaker 4: was trying to get you know, criminals, and you.
Speaker 3: Know, like I don't listen. I don't let me tell
Speaker 3: you something.
Speaker 4: The word illegals, while a lot of people use it,
Speaker 4: it's a very derogatory term because everybody's over here supposed
Speaker 4: to get due process. Julio is gonna get due process.
Speaker 4: I just don't know if they gave him that, because,
Speaker 4: like you said, Steven, I got a problem with how
Speaker 4: everything was done. This there doesn't get more public figure
Speaker 4: than Julio shopping. It just don't. He's not high now,
Speaker 4: he's a professional boxer. And if and if and if
Speaker 4: there was and if there's something that he did that
Speaker 4: could easily be undone, I mean.
Speaker 3: You do that, you treat people at some level of
Speaker 3: human decency.
Speaker 4: It's just I mean, his family it's came out and
Speaker 4: made some statements, but it just it just looks like
Speaker 4: so much of a like we we live in such
Speaker 4: a sensationalized world to what now we gotta publicize everything.
Speaker 4: We are not here and we're talking about the American
Speaker 4: judicial system. Ice, We're not here to try to make
Speaker 4: mockeries out of people, to try to embarrass people, to
Speaker 4: try to fool people. Julio was like, what is this,
Speaker 4: I'm doing press conferences y'all been do this, y'all. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't like it because it sends the wrong message
Speaker 4: the people who try to do things the right way.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're gonna, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 4: when I saw this, and obviously it's only is me
Speaker 4: and is on a lot of major sports networks. It's
Speaker 4: just a crazy situation all the way around. But we
Speaker 4: do hope that because of who he is, his celebrity,
Speaker 4: hopefully you know, his representation, he will be able to
Speaker 4: undo what was what was done and hopefully be back
Speaker 4: in America very very so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, it's just the way this
Speaker 1: went down, the timing of it, all that stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: My thoughts are with you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the Chavez family, both post senior and junior. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he you know, I'm sure, I'm sure Pops
Speaker 1: is just as angry as anyone in the family, especially
Speaker 1: with you know, everything that he's done to you know,
Speaker 1: in the boxing community alone, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a tough pillal swallow, y know, I don't you know
Speaker 1: there there's like you said, I'm not trying to get
Speaker 1: pulled to go with this, but you know, Uh, there's
Speaker 1: proper channels to go through, there's proper ways to go
Speaker 1: about it. I have a hard time believing like this
Speaker 1: was this was something that just popped up on the radar.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna dwell on it too much, just
Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, hopefully he's back here in the States,
Speaker 1: everything get straightened out.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, uh, I firmly believe there's no way.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he has any you know, Mexican
Speaker 1: cartel tie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't listen.
Speaker 4: I don't like that type of reporting because people can
Speaker 4: throw a word a legend in front of it. Don't
Speaker 4: use the word alleged to say things you always want
Speaker 4: to say about somebody, because if it if it proved
Speaker 4: to be false, like this was a legend, who was
Speaker 4: your who was your source? Well, I can't give my
Speaker 4: source was a source shoe. No, it's like, stop doing that.
Speaker 4: Everybody from Mexico is not a part of the cartel.
Speaker 4: They've probably been affected by the cartail. They probably been
Speaker 4: you know, contacted by the cartail. They probably been influenced
Speaker 4: by the cartail, poll be terrorized by the cartail doesn't
Speaker 4: make me a part of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so stop that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to get too political with it,
Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, it's it's it's it's something that
Speaker 1: that affects, you know, our combat sports athletes, and you
Speaker 1: know they you know, they don't have enough voices champion
Speaker 1: for them. But now I'm gonna go the other way.
Speaker 1: With the results of that past weekend's fight, mister Jake
Speaker 1: Paul is now being being officially ranked by the w
Speaker 1: a A w b A as the fourteenth Beth cruiserweight
Speaker 1: in the world. Another thing I have a problem with, Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't like Listen. We all know that, you know
Speaker 1: the type of fights that Jake puts on, and you know,
Speaker 1: growing the way he's been growing, I don't necessarily have
Speaker 1: a problem with. My problem always has been, he's fighting
Speaker 1: these older guys, He's fighting guys that are not actually boxers,
Speaker 1: He's fighting guys out of his weight class. So if
Speaker 1: he's already had ten fights and only two of them
Speaker 1: have actually been against actual professional boxers, and this one
Speaker 1: is the first time it's and Chavez is not not
Speaker 1: a true cruiserweight either. Le Let's let's let's let's put
Speaker 1: that one up there. So how do we now rank
Speaker 1: this man? And he's only had basically two fights against
Speaker 1: actual boxers and and you know, the last five six,
Speaker 1: seven years. That's kind of my problem with this. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like one of those same things like
Speaker 1: when you know, you know, when we're talking about like
Speaker 1: the bigger combat sports, you know, guys retired for five
Speaker 1: six years, and he automatically gets gets a title fight
Speaker 1: just based off his name. I have problem with these things, like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there are some guys that like like to
Speaker 1: come into the sport, they disappear to go to what
Speaker 1: you know, you see boxers coming into m M A
Speaker 1: not nine times out of.
Speaker 2: Ten when they go in there, they're not fighting for
Speaker 2: a world title.
Speaker 1: They're fight against a young you know, you know, contender
Speaker 1: or or guy that it's kind of built his name.
Speaker 2: So I have a.
Speaker 1: Problem that we're only two actual boxers and not a
Speaker 1: single guy fought at cruiserweighting, not a rank guy, not
Speaker 1: an upcoming guy at cruiserweight, and now we're ranking this
Speaker 1: is you know, I had had a disagreement with with
Speaker 1: another another knucklehead on TikTok. This is why I say
Speaker 1: boxing is dead, because it's corrupt to its core. You
Speaker 1: cannot sit there and tell me he's ranked now when
Speaker 1: he hasn't even fought a a a cruiser weight in
Speaker 1: any way shape in regardless they fought at cruiserweight, when
Speaker 1: when when the fight was sanctioned.
Speaker 2: I have a problem with this. I love the the
Speaker 2: other things that Jake does for this sport.
Speaker 1: He is trying to help this help the sport grow
Speaker 1: in a way where where fighters are not always going
Speaker 1: going going to have these great avenues. You know, you
Speaker 1: have promoters that that hold guys in and they have
Speaker 1: their favorites and things of that nature. What we're gonna
Speaker 1: see here and in uh less than a week or two,
Speaker 1: we're gonna see amnus Aroano and and and and Katie
Speaker 1: Taylor fight for a third time on Netflix.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a bunch of big fights on on there.
Speaker 1: What he's doing as a promoter, you we can't take
Speaker 1: that away from him, and I won't take that away
Speaker 1: from him. That's something that's something he is exceptional at this.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't get me to buy into this.
Speaker 1: So I know you're not the greatest combat sports officionado.
Speaker 1: But I know you never know enough about boxing to
Speaker 1: know this ain't right. Brother, It's not right.
Speaker 4: It's not rifle. It's not right for so many reasons.
Speaker 4: Number One, in order to be to me, in order
Speaker 4: to be ranking the w B A w B O.
Speaker 4: Were you an amateur fight? Did you come up in amateurs? No?
Speaker 3: You know how many fights?
Speaker 4: You haven't? Amateurs? Too many in the name, right, Jake
Speaker 4: Paul is taking advantage of the times when he's a
Speaker 4: social media superstar.
Speaker 3: He's a you know, I mean, he's a big time influence.
Speaker 4: He's him and his brother, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: have really really made names for themselves. But you said
Speaker 4: it though, this ain't no big card. This can get
Speaker 4: promoted through through through these through the avenues that he's
Speaker 4: built up, through his celebrity and his fame.
Speaker 3: Jake Paul is not finna.
Speaker 4: Listen. Remember remember when Jake Paul brother got in there
Speaker 4: with up Remember when he got in there and fought
Speaker 4: Floyd Mayweather, who was way past his prime. What happened
Speaker 4: to him?
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
Speaker 3: He's out there getting the bears. Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson almost sixty years old man and all that
Speaker 4: promotion that Mike Tyson did with him sparring. When Mike
Speaker 4: Tyson got in the ring, I'm like, what was that
Speaker 4: a build up for?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: I respect what Jake Paul does, But Jake Paul is not,
Speaker 4: and I mean it's humbly man. He should never be
Speaker 4: ranged with Canelo fights Crawford, that's a fight. If John
Speaker 4: Bones Jones want to do UFC, that's a fight, right,
Speaker 4: That's what I'm because they got known through the sport,
Speaker 4: not hey. Man, I became a big face, a big
Speaker 4: name in celebrity, as an influencer.
Speaker 3: And now I want to go to the boxing world
Speaker 3: because I know how.
Speaker 4: To put the I got enough money to help with
Speaker 4: the promotions and all these different things. Jake Paul two
Speaker 4: reasons why he will never have a be ranked a
Speaker 4: fighter in his prime. Will not fight Jake Paul because
Speaker 4: to them, they gonna be like, dude, it's not worth
Speaker 4: it to me. I'm gonna I'm gonna bear Jake Paul
Speaker 4: and Jake Listen. Can't Jake Paul fight?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Does that make j Paul a fighter? No, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say that again.
Speaker 1: Anyone that that's worth their salt that has called the
Speaker 1: mail you had has seen Rockman Junior's uh uh, you know.
Speaker 2: Call him out? You know has seen Rockman.
Speaker 1: You know his pop was was a former world champion
Speaker 1: and and you know, was he the greatest one.
Speaker 2: Of all time? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: That's a name in a fight people could respect even
Speaker 1: more so. We were just talking about him a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Just made his BKFC debut. Tommy Morrison sung
Speaker 1: Kenzy Morrison. You know when he when he you know,
Speaker 1: he's I think he only has one loss in his
Speaker 1: professional boxing career and more than have him or knockouts.
Speaker 1: He looked at a spitting image of his dad when
Speaker 1: he was doing batter knuckle last week.
Speaker 2: He's been calling Jake out for four years. That's a fight.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you sit there and says he
Speaker 1: doesn't have the numbers.
Speaker 2: You're not doing.
Speaker 1: You're trying to build your legacy to the point where
Speaker 1: people want to consider you legit.
Speaker 2: Jake. If you're ever, ever.
Speaker 1: Ever, ever gonna gonna think that you're you're gonna legitimize
Speaker 1: what you've done so far. Yes, you're learning on the
Speaker 1: fly against top level combat sports athletes, but you're not
Speaker 1: fighting rank guys. Yet, No, you're you cheated your way
Speaker 1: into a ranking in the in this way in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But look like I said, the promoter part, you know,
Speaker 1: he's I think Al Bernstein said it the best.
Speaker 2: You know, he thinks of it.
Speaker 1: He thinks of Jake Paul sort of how he feels
Speaker 1: about Clint Eastwood. A blow average actor but an amazing
Speaker 1: director and producer. He's top noting that in that form,
Speaker 1: and I think I'll hit hit that one on the head.
Speaker 1: He hit that one on the head that Jake is
Speaker 1: a below average fighter, but he is a top not promoter.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to do something major, you know, continue
Speaker 1: fighting some of these rank guys at your age, at
Speaker 1: your weight class in order to have a lot of
Speaker 1: people like me, people like you and other people out
Speaker 1: there and and you know in the social media world,
Speaker 1: in in the boxing community, to make you feel different
Speaker 1: than it, Uh what you just have. Roy Jones Junior
Speaker 1: said he's never gonna be a world champion, So.
Speaker 4: No, no, not, Uh, Jake Paul is. Jake Paul is
Speaker 4: the real life Creed. And I'm talking about the Michael B.
Speaker 4: Jordan Creed. He's the real life version of it. Like
Speaker 4: because he's he came out and listen, he came out
Speaker 4: of nowhere, and we get to hit, We get to
Speaker 4: hit celebrity. He became, he was a celebrity. Then he
Speaker 4: chose com bastball. He chose boxing, and his brother tried
Speaker 4: to do it. Brother got humbled by Floyd Mayweather realized, dude,
Speaker 4: this is what Listen. The best amateur boxer in the
Speaker 4: world would destroy Jake Paul if they put him cruisier
Speaker 4: wights who aren't ranked, if you put him in there,
Speaker 4: because boxing ain't something you can do in your spare time.
Speaker 4: Boxing ain't something I'm passionate about.
Speaker 3: Boxing.
Speaker 4: Either you do it or you don't do it. And
Speaker 4: for Jake Paul, he's a slappy look, I'm not taking
Speaker 4: away his burgers. Are promoting a fight, but that's not
Speaker 4: a fight that's gonna be respecting nationally because people like, well, dude,
Speaker 4: people know you because of how you came up in
Speaker 4: the social media influences internet type thing, but that don't
Speaker 4: make you a boxer. Will real crucier wats fight you
Speaker 4: in their prime, No, because they're not gonna get credit
Speaker 4: for beating you. Only you look good for fighting them.
Speaker 4: They're not gonna get any credibility. Never in the history
Speaker 4: of any sport that you had to come up in
Speaker 4: where you respected by fighting somebody who's not in your sport.
Speaker 4: People say, you're telling me Jake Paul is in the
Speaker 4: sport of boxing, but not for real. He ain't respected
Speaker 4: by boxers who ain't who that's and he ain't respected
Speaker 4: by it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean Spint, I mean Smints.
Speaker 4: And and Tank Davis and guys that did it, because
Speaker 4: they're like, dude, you know how hard it was for
Speaker 4: us to get there, and that's all we've held for done.
Speaker 4: We'd never done nothing but boxing. So I respect Jake Paul,
Speaker 4: like you said, as a promoter, But come on, man,
Speaker 4: I remember let me tell you. Let me tell you what.
Speaker 4: I remember when Canelo fought Floyd Mayweather, and you know,
Speaker 4: and and and every and everybody thinking, oh man, he's
Speaker 4: with Golden Boy Promotions.
Speaker 3: What what? What did what?
Speaker 4: The Floyd Mayweather come out and say, he said, how
Speaker 4: how you gonna tell him to beat me? I beat
Speaker 4: your boss, Canelo. I've already beat him now this and
Speaker 4: this is a young Canelo. They was like, hey man,
Speaker 4: the young gun for the Girl against the Federal where
Speaker 4: both of them was boxers. One of them was a
Speaker 4: veteran boxer. What did Floyd Mayweather do? He boxed the
Speaker 4: hell out of Canelo. He said, I'm stick. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna stand here in front of you because if I
Speaker 4: could call I'm knocked out. Now Canelo is the veteran
Speaker 4: and it's hard to beat him. Those type of guys
Speaker 4: will never fight Jake Paul because no matter what you know,
Speaker 4: how they're seeing, they gonna.
Speaker 3: Say all the right things to the public.
Speaker 4: But if you ask a really said, but it's a gimmick, man,
Speaker 4: it's a waste of my time. It's a waste of
Speaker 4: all the years I put in. I can respect what
Speaker 4: he does, but that don't mean he do what I do. No, no, No.
Speaker 4: Him getting in the ring don't mean he do what
Speaker 4: I do. He gets to get in the ring because
Speaker 4: he's a good promoter. And look at who he's fighting
Speaker 4: fighting once again, Jake Paul. Bro Now let's talk about
Speaker 4: who he's and Anderson Ate Nate and just listen, Nate
Speaker 4: Anderson Silva, right, you listen.
Speaker 2: Natural middleweight one hundred and eighty five pounder.
Speaker 1: Ron Woodling one hundred seventy pounder, Nate Diaz one hundred
Speaker 1: seventy pound fighter, bet Asker one hundred seventy pound fighter,
Speaker 1: Mike Perry, hundred seventy pound fighter.
Speaker 4: You see, you see what I'm talking about here?
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 4: And like I said, like I said.
Speaker 2: On this list, tell.
Speaker 4: On this list. There I mean, And here's the thing, right,
Speaker 4: let me tell you what. Jake Paul is smart enough
Speaker 4: to know I'm gonna take a bunch of knockout artists
Speaker 4: and combat sports, which is totally a knockout artist in
Speaker 4: combat sports does not compare to a knockout artist in boxing.
Speaker 4: It does not compare. Now do we respect both apps?
Speaker 4: Nate Didas is a knock out artist, and Anderson Silva
Speaker 4: knock out But but but but Anders and Silver knocked
Speaker 4: you out in different ways. See were talking about a
Speaker 4: knock a knock out of UFC. It could come from
Speaker 4: a flying elbow, a flying knee. It ain't always with these, right,
Speaker 4: If boxing has got to come with these or it
Speaker 4: ain't coming, you don't believe. And I know we're gonna
Speaker 4: talk about a mistake with Connor McGregor. What happened with
Speaker 4: Connor McGregor stepped in the ring with Floyd. I'm telling
Speaker 4: y'all it's a different And then.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, that's what Connor Connors I thought.
Speaker 1: I still think what made Honor's special is his reaction
Speaker 1: in his hand eye coordinations. What made him special, why
Speaker 1: he had so many knockouts in his career. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna change gears here and
Speaker 1: talk about Connor in a second, because did you did
Speaker 1: you see what do you see what trumping is? Today
Speaker 1: he announced that for for for next year's Fourth of
Speaker 1: July festivities, we are going to have a UFC fight
Speaker 1: at the White House. What so, of course, who's the
Speaker 1: first person to reach out its Connor McGregor. And obviously
Speaker 1: we we know that just because of the simple fact
Speaker 1: that him, him and Connor you know, have been talking.
Speaker 1: He's trying to to run for president there in Ireland.
Speaker 1: But the only fight anyone wants to see this point,
Speaker 1: it has to be the fight that hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: In Michael Chandler that that that would be like my
Speaker 1: initial thoughts if that that does happen, if that's what's
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen Connor does finally return, you know, a
Speaker 1: year from that would probably be more than enough time
Speaker 1: for him to kind.
Speaker 2: Of get himself in in fight shape.
Speaker 1: Dana White has kind of already said he loves the idea,
Speaker 1: would love to bring Connor in for a fight like that.
Speaker 1: But man, has that ever happened, had a major fight
Speaker 1: promotion and the President of the United States said, hey,
Speaker 1: let's do it at the lawn of the White House.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's happened since like the early days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, emotion, it was just just a you know, two
Speaker 1: knuckleheads having some fisticuffs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Donald Trump and what you're talking you're
Speaker 4: talking about a big time promoter. Donald Trump understands. He's
Speaker 4: treating the UFC like a It's like you're going to
Speaker 4: the movie to see it, to see a movie. You
Speaker 4: see coming coming and you know coming in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 4: fourth of July, UFC, Washington, DC on the White House lawn. Look,
Speaker 4: two things I think Trump Trump Trump tries to have
Speaker 4: different type of he would have a different type of
Speaker 4: legacy because he's not a he's not a politician, he's
Speaker 4: a he's the president. He's like, look, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do things differently because you know I'm not. I didn't
Speaker 4: once again, I didn't come up in politics. I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't in that. I wasn't in the House, I
Speaker 4: wasn't in the Senate. I didn't come up as a
Speaker 4: as a governor or a mayor. I got voted in twice.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna do things, and I'm gonna be remember
Speaker 4: for Dana White is going to be in this. Dana
Speaker 4: White is gonna be in debt to Donald Trump for
Speaker 4: life if they can pull this off. A guy like
Speaker 4: a guy like a guy like Connor McGregor. He understands, Look,
Speaker 4: if I'm standing next to the current president, how y'all
Speaker 4: not gonna vote me president of my cut? So I
Speaker 4: get it. But and they gonna blow it up. Donald
Speaker 4: Trump said, Look, well, he rode to the beat of
Speaker 4: his own drum. He doesn't care about what much of
Speaker 4: anybody cares, I mean, thinks or says about him. And man,
Speaker 4: he almost gotta do it now, right because he already
Speaker 4: he done announced it. So I know that Connor McGregor
Speaker 4: is gonna be on that card. I want to see
Speaker 4: who else is gonna be on that card. It's not
Speaker 4: gonna be one fight, but somebody, I.
Speaker 2: Think that that's something.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you have guys that you've already had on
Speaker 1: their contracts. I would like to see a bunch of
Speaker 1: the guys who have been you know, military veterans who
Speaker 1: have been been in the sport. Guys like Tim Kennedy,
Speaker 1: Brian Stan comes to mind, other guys like that, you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Widman, like there, there's a bunch of guys that
Speaker 1: that I would like to see kind of a come
Speaker 1: out for a fight like that. But it all depends,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know who they would be going
Speaker 1: up against.
Speaker 2: What kind of fights he's kind of kind of trying
Speaker 2: to put on. So uh, I think he's he is
Speaker 2: going to go spectacle a little bit. But uh, I mean,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't blame him at this point in time.
Speaker 1: Like I would, I'd try to pull out all the
Speaker 1: stops for this one. Like listen, he pulled out all
Speaker 1: the stops when he did this, when he did the
Speaker 1: sphere right, and they did, they did a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that were a lot of
Speaker 1: your Latin fighters or Mexican fighters, they did a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of.
Speaker 2: That is because of the proximity and all that.
Speaker 1: I think this one, uh, you know, you you find
Speaker 1: some guys from the area. One, you find some guys
Speaker 1: that that are military too, and then you find some
Speaker 1: guys like along the line of Connor Zilpe that that
Speaker 1: that that that that's a legitimate you know, international star.
Speaker 1: I think you do whatever you can them to make
Speaker 1: some of those fights memorable. Like uh, like I listen
Speaker 1: that I guarantee you right now that you know, a
Speaker 1: year from now, that's that's that's where everyone's gonna want
Speaker 1: to be is gonna be watching that UFC fight, you know, regardless.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of
Speaker 1: of our fair country.
Speaker 2: And what what better way to do? What what better way.
Speaker 1: To top off the fourth of July for for the
Speaker 1: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, but good old combat sports
Speaker 1: fight on the law and of the White House.
Speaker 4: If if Connor mcgreg is gonna be there, Ron de
Speaker 4: Risey gonna have to find a way to make it
Speaker 4: appear as a man, the Newond's gonna have to find
Speaker 4: a way to make they might not fight, but they're
Speaker 4: gonna have to show their face that because I think
Speaker 4: what happens with a fight like this, you bring out
Speaker 4: the legends.
Speaker 3: The legends don't got the fight, but they come out.
Speaker 4: They come out because it's gonna be I mean, you
Speaker 4: know it's gonna's I mean, an event like that. It's
Speaker 4: almost like Donald Trump is putting pressure on future president
Speaker 4: to say, we understand this about policy, we understand this
Speaker 4: about you know, uh, different things to help to help
Speaker 4: the American people.
Speaker 3: But what kind of events.
Speaker 4: Because because of because a president usually goes to an
Speaker 4: event that's already set up. They show up to an
Speaker 4: event the super Bowl, NBA Finals, you know, Game seven,
Speaker 4: the World Series, you know Game seven, the NHL. He's
Speaker 4: throwing an event.
Speaker 3: Hey man, it's gonna be crazy. That's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think there's gonna listen, if you're a
Speaker 1: fighter on that on that card, just understand you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to deal with a lot of vetting. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to deal with it. So make sure your your
Speaker 1: eyes are thought and your teaser crossed. Everything's good, everything's
Speaker 1: good in your life. And uh, you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to be there. But I agree,
Speaker 1: you're you know, I think you are going to have
Speaker 1: a you know, uh the Stars Stars the Star.
Speaker 4: Ramp rampage Jackson. Let let him, let him, let him
Speaker 4: come in, just making sure him. Man what's his name?
Speaker 4: Uh man, what's the what's the name?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: White guy? He always was talking trash man.
Speaker 4: He didn't win all his fights, but he talks so
Speaker 4: much trash. Oh yeah, Oh my god. I mean he
Speaker 4: got to be that he got. I mean Jess from
Speaker 4: Jets for the commentary, Jets for the commentary.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see Daniel Cormier too.
Speaker 1: Like I know a lot of people, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of think of him as a second fiddle to uh
Speaker 1: to John Jones. But you know, I think Daniel's more
Speaker 1: his his career is more.
Speaker 2: Than than absolutely his rivalry John.
Speaker 1: What he does in the wrestling community, what he does
Speaker 1: for kids and things of that nature. If he's not fighting,
Speaker 1: I know he's gonna at least be commentating that that event.
Speaker 2: You know, Joe Rogan is gonna be there for that,
Speaker 2: so you already know.
Speaker 4: I mean he's gonna be doing He's gonna be doing
Speaker 4: a Joe Rogan podcast Live Live.
Speaker 1: To go in and do his podcast before the election.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if he gets another sit down.
Speaker 1: And while he's there at the White House, I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some unique content come out for for
Speaker 1: that that fourth of July, and I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming announcement our for
Speaker 1: the next year. But I know where ways at. But uh, listen,
Speaker 1: Trump is definitely a different president and and uh, this
Speaker 1: is something I think, uh, I think more president should
Speaker 1: kind of get behind stuff like this, not just with
Speaker 1: with with MMA, but you know, uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: were just talking about Jake poulm Permot and maybe maybe
Speaker 1: we uh you know, the two hundred and fifty first anniversary,
Speaker 1: we get a we get a Jake Fall fighting for
Speaker 1: a real title against a real fighter. We never know
Speaker 1: the crazy world we live in, we never know her
Speaker 1: Trump going, he gonna listen, he gonna definitely say yes before.
Speaker 4: He gonna definitely entertain it. He might not be able
Speaker 4: to do it, but he gonna definitely entertain it, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Now I do want to switch gears.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking a lot of combat sports
Speaker 1: for this first half hour of the show, but didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance.
Speaker 2: Of talking on on Wednesday, wanted to talk to you
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Now, s g A has a arrived. He is now
Speaker 1: the highest paid player in the NBA, signed a two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five million dollar contract over the next
Speaker 1: four years.
Speaker 3: Uh that's look.
Speaker 1: At his Look at his breakdown, right, gets more than Tatum,
Speaker 1: more than Curry, more than Joel Embiid, more than honest.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, he did TP at two things. He
Speaker 4: peaked at the repeaked at the right time, winning the
Speaker 4: regulars seas, the m v P and the finals MVP
Speaker 4: and I can't even remember whatever MVP he won. The Uh,
Speaker 4: the he collective bargating as far as like the money
Speaker 4: that's available in in the National Basketball Association is through
Speaker 4: the roof and when people start saying, hey, man, why
Speaker 4: did he really get the money? He's the face of
Speaker 4: the NBA over Tatum. I'm not saying he's the only face,
Speaker 4: but he's definitely one of the SGA. Think about this,
Speaker 4: what makes a superstar in the NBA? One name? Now
Speaker 4: he got Now he got SGA with Giannis Lebron, Steph KD. Westbrook, Hardened,
Speaker 4: and the list goes on and on. Right to be
Speaker 4: a superstar in the NBA, you have to win the championship.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say it again to be the face and
Speaker 4: the superstar, because you could be a superstar without without
Speaker 4: winning the championship, but to be the face. The world
Speaker 4: respects championships and it's when do you do it and
Speaker 4: where you do it? With the Oklahoma Cities done though,
Speaker 4: when they had KD, James Harden, and Russell Westbrook at
Speaker 4: the same time, and it couldn't have too a better dude.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been in the MVP race like the
Speaker 4: last two or three years, I was the lost of Yokic.
Speaker 4: Was able to get over the hump this year, proved
Speaker 4: and played his best basketball when it counted the most.
Speaker 4: I mean, what did everybody say about Steph? Steph won
Speaker 4: those three Steph won four championships. How many finals MVP
Speaker 4: he got one the most recent one. He won his
Speaker 4: fourth championship. Who had the other two? Andre Guadala, Kevin Durant,
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant. Steph had to prove one, I can win
Speaker 4: without those dudes, and two I could be the best
Speaker 4: player on the court without those guys. Sga has been
Speaker 4: the best, one of the best players in basketball for
Speaker 4: like the last two or three years. He finally got
Speaker 4: over the hump this year. It wasn't easy. I do
Speaker 4: think Halliburton is gonna be back. I don't think he'll
Speaker 4: be back at twenty twenty six because and the Killings
Speaker 4: tad gonna take a long time. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's the easiest. That's the easiest contract ever done. I mean,
Speaker 4: I like, yeah, two h eighty five million, sign him up.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a he is the faith And there
Speaker 4: I say, Okay, see man, they you know, we talk
Speaker 4: about a mint, we talk about a small market, media
Speaker 4: town city, but now they got it. But now they
Speaker 4: got the best team in the NBA. So hey, man,
Speaker 4: shy toga, get your money, young man. Two things I
Speaker 4: should have done play learn how to shoot that jump.
Speaker 4: Learn learn how to run the bases, man, cause baseball
Speaker 4: and basketball, my goodness, man, back the trucks up, back
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys are these guys are getting it right now.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It's it's an amazing.
Speaker 1: Like everyone like we do complain about it, just because
Speaker 1: you hear a lot a lot of guys are like,
Speaker 1: oh well, they need.
Speaker 2: To shorten the season down.
Speaker 1: They need to do Listen, listen, listen, listen, man, you
Speaker 1: ain't you ain't short in the season down you know,
Speaker 1: I just seen the CBA for hockey. They've added two
Speaker 1: more games, right they this is the CBA for hockey.
Speaker 1: They just added more games. So, I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: get paid more than just about any I think the
Speaker 1: only sport you get paid more is baseball.
Speaker 2: And that's just simply because.
Speaker 1: They play one hundred They played one hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: two games in the season, you know, plus what they
Speaker 1: do in the playoffs. If you know, you're one of
Speaker 1: those top top teams. So but yeah, we were talking
Speaker 1: about it before, like we need, we need new stars,
Speaker 1: new faces in the w A. I believe SGA is
Speaker 1: only like twenty seven years old. Yeah, it's exactly what
Speaker 1: you want. You need, you need a guy like this,
Speaker 1: you need you need, you need that blood, that new
Speaker 1: blood in there because you know, uh, we ain't.
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna see Lebron in there too much longer.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to him in in a minute.
Speaker 1: But uh, it's a it's a good thing to see
Speaker 1: not not only him getting his accolades, him getting the
Speaker 1: you know, being the highest paid paid player in the
Speaker 1: NBA at this point in time, regardless if you agree
Speaker 1: with it or not, He's paid his dues over the
Speaker 1: last handful of years. You know, he's been at the
Speaker 1: top or or you know, in the in the running
Speaker 1: for for m VP of the league. So I'm happy
Speaker 1: for I'm looking forward to it. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the on the potential remaining free agent. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw this one in there. My friend that you know,
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard think came out and apparently the Bucks weren't
Speaker 1: happy that he wanted to rehab at home. Eventually led
Speaker 1: to his departure there, uh with with the Milwaukee Bucks
Speaker 1: and has set off King Yannis and that that still
Speaker 1: leaves you know how Al Horford, Chris Paul, the aforementioned Westbrook, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know Midlik Beasley, you know the King Crook himself.
Speaker 2: Ben Zimmons is still available. What do you think we're
Speaker 2: gonna see this?
Speaker 1: This this NBA free agency coming up, because I wanted
Speaker 1: to get to that before we before we touched on
Speaker 1: Lebron and what's going on with him right now. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing, you know, watching what's going on
Speaker 1: there in Milwaukee, I feel I feel a reboot coming
Speaker 1: up there. I think I don't think Giannis is gonna
Speaker 1: stay there, despite the fact that him saying that he
Speaker 1: wanted to, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yanna is gonna say the right thing because he is
Speaker 4: that he is a true professional. But I think it's
Speaker 4: time in Milwaukee is up. I think what they was,
Speaker 4: what they wanted to get out of him. He more
Speaker 4: than lived up to what you're talking about. The MVP
Speaker 4: is in the league, won a championship, has never ever
Speaker 4: really made a lot of ways, maybe about himself. I mean,
Speaker 4: but I think sometimes if I know what I know,
Speaker 4: what I it's not jis wanted to leave.
Speaker 3: Is what I can get for him?
Speaker 4: Man? What could I get? How many first round picks?
Speaker 4: How many players can I get? That's gonna be big
Speaker 4: when they do decide to move on from Damian Lillard.
Speaker 4: I always thought even when he went to Milwaukee, I mean,
Speaker 4: it was a good thing without a great thing. When
Speaker 4: you got when you got a ball dominant guard like
Speaker 4: him and did it coming off of injury, you know,
Speaker 4: you know it was gonna be hard for him to stay.
Speaker 4: Al Horford, I mean, you know, two years removed from
Speaker 4: a championship with the Celtics.
Speaker 3: A guy has been about his rock solids.
Speaker 4: You can be good, not great, but Definite still has
Speaker 4: quality stars left in him. The fact that Ben Simmons
Speaker 4: is still even in the NBA, it boggles my mind.
Speaker 3: Like Ben Simmons, Ben.
Speaker 4: Simmons that was number one overall pick out of LSU
Speaker 4: and an't even make a tournament. Ben Simmons, that that's
Speaker 4: have been all over making money. Ben Simmons, that will
Speaker 4: get traded to a team, signed big money to a team,
Speaker 4: Jen to Taylor team. I don't want to play Philly,
Speaker 4: Ben Simmons, the nest Ben Simmons.
Speaker 3: Look, Oh man, it's an embarrassment. It is an embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one was the last year he was actually
Speaker 1: a productive basketball player. I heard that that he was
Speaker 1: asking for more than the veteran league minimum. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna get that anywhere. He's robbed, you know, Philly,
Speaker 1: He's robbed the Nuts, He's robbed the Lakers, He's robbed everybody.
Speaker 3: I don't I mean the Ben Simmons experiment.
Speaker 4: I'm not under standy what what they hope to get
Speaker 4: from him at this point, Like, look, I don't want
Speaker 4: to hear about what he could be. I don't want
Speaker 4: to hear about, Hey, man, if he can do this,
Speaker 4: and he can do that, if he can do what
Speaker 4: play basketball?
Speaker 2: Know that we know that for a fact he can
Speaker 2: play defense.
Speaker 4: But I mean that Ben Simon, absolutely, Ben Simmons is
Speaker 4: gonna have to get and I don't take mental health. Uh,
Speaker 4: I don't take it lightly. I don't know what's going
Speaker 4: on from the neck cup with it, but he just
Speaker 4: ain't any right now. And there ain't a person that
Speaker 4: feeling want to hear nothing about No Ben Simmons. Don't
Speaker 4: bring up Ben Simmons to me. I don't want if
Speaker 4: you aren't Philadelphia seven, Ben Simmons, if I catch him
Speaker 4: in it, if I catch him at the light, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be road rage. Nothing exactly. He's not a word.
Speaker 1: I want to erase that that that that that that
Speaker 1: time and space and take can we can we run
Speaker 1: this one back? Because that we made a mistake. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously the Sixers have made many mistake through the drafts,
Speaker 1: through free agency and let this guy stay, letting this
Speaker 1: guy go. I mean I've already said I feel that
Speaker 1: I feel that they're probably close to a blow up.
Speaker 1: I know they're hoping Joel hits that for him when
Speaker 1: he When Joel is healthy, he's the best.
Speaker 2: Basketball player in the NBA.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people might want to argue
Speaker 1: that I don't know many seven footers that is that
Speaker 1: smooth from behind the three point line. But but listen,
Speaker 1: if Joe could get healthy and stay healthy and get
Speaker 1: give you eighty two games plus a plus a good
Speaker 1: a good playoff run, the seventy six would have been
Speaker 1: an NBA championship at some point in time over the
Speaker 1: last seven years.
Speaker 2: But I think.
Speaker 1: Tyrese Max he's a great additional piece. I do not
Speaker 1: think Paul George is somebody they should they should have kept.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be we're talking about Gianni's being traded. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to see, uh, Darryl Moory try to
Speaker 1: see what what what he could what he could leverage
Speaker 1: to to get him out of there. Maybe maybe do
Speaker 1: give up a pick next year, maybe give away of
Speaker 1: Paul George and and maybe an additional additional player.
Speaker 4: You know that that's it. That'll be the easiest decision
Speaker 4: to make. A may listen, we want young what y'all
Speaker 4: want you? Paul George the first round pick a second
Speaker 4: round pick in another player, because Paul, I mean, Jannis
Speaker 4: will take a lot of pressure off. Giannis will play
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure off with Joel because with Joel
Speaker 4: getting older, as to look, man, you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: play closer to the basket. The one thing about Jannis
Speaker 4: Nis don't Ji don't shoot a lot of threes. Jannis
Speaker 4: don't shoot a lot period he's playing. I mean, he's
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a guy that still has a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot left for the take. And Gianni's he
Speaker 4: gonna have every GM not named the Milwaukee Bucks GM
Speaker 4: on the line, like, yeah, we can add that if
Speaker 4: you can't use a bo you ain't you ain't you
Speaker 4: ain't serious about winning. Janni's is on the market. Wow,
Speaker 4: time player.
Speaker 1: We'll see how the how, the how the the off
Speaker 1: season plays out for the NBA.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna have to get to this now.
Speaker 1: Obviously, we we we've been we've been ragging on King
Speaker 1: James last few weeks, right and rightfully.
Speaker 2: So he's been saying some silly things, but you know, uh,
Speaker 2: he did sign his tenure.
Speaker 1: Fifty two million dollars say saying that he's trying to
Speaker 1: go after another championship.
Speaker 2: I would say this, if you really.
Speaker 1: Wanted to wanted to go after a championship with the Lakers,
Speaker 1: not trying to get get moved to another team, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have signed the player option. You to decline
Speaker 1: the option and signed a contract that was team friendly,
Speaker 1: to get some more guys in there to play with
Speaker 1: you guys to to really push it. Because we've already
Speaker 1: talked about the West. The West one through ay, there's
Speaker 1: no wiggle room.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 1: You got legitimate teams that that from from from one
Speaker 1: to eight that that that could potentially win a championship.
Speaker 1: And none of them are the Los Angeles Lakers, you know,
Speaker 1: even with a Luca Dono's I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're there. It's not anything against Lebron. I just don't
Speaker 1: think they have enough pieces a round them. And when
Speaker 1: you're when you're locking yourself into that that that fifty
Speaker 1: two million dollar contract, you're not trying to help your
Speaker 1: team win.
Speaker 2: You're still trying to line your pockets.
Speaker 1: And and as I said, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: sur as I said last week, you know or Wednesday. Rather,
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised or fault him for going
Speaker 1: after another championship, because we we we know what his
Speaker 1: ultimate goal is, regardless of what his comments on ring
Speaker 1: culture is or is it. I think that that that
Speaker 1: is his goal, and I said it last week. I
Speaker 1: think the writings on the wall, I think that the
Speaker 1: Lakers are trying to go in a different direction regardless
Speaker 1: of him signing the player option.
Speaker 2: I think he's another guy.
Speaker 1: I think the right deal comes across the Lakers table
Speaker 1: that they would they wouldn't hesitate to move him as
Speaker 1: long as it gave them a piece, and they just
Speaker 1: they just signed a center and just date it.
Speaker 2: So now I think it's official.
Speaker 1: Lebron James has now officially been on the roster with
Speaker 1: the most number one overall draft picks than any player
Speaker 1: in NBA history. That that's insane, man, that that that
Speaker 1: that is insane.
Speaker 2: I think if if if he's really serious.
Speaker 1: About that, I would I would not I would not
Speaker 1: have signed the tenure and I would have declined it.
Speaker 2: Found some something team.
Speaker 1: Friendly to make sure that you have the most guys in.
Speaker 2: Your locker room to do to to help you guys
Speaker 2: win a championship.
Speaker 1: This is this what your ultimate goal is at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, right, so make sure your team
Speaker 1: could do it. He doesn't need money anymore, so why
Speaker 1: why sign the fifty two million dollar tenure?
Speaker 2: Am I wrong here? Am I reading this wrong?
Speaker 1: Ben?
Speaker 4: Tell me, brother, No, no, no, I don't think you read
Speaker 4: it wrong. I think I think I think Lebron wants
Speaker 4: to win one with Luca. I think Lebron they they they,
Speaker 4: I mean the Lakers get Deondrey Aiden for I'm a
Speaker 4: number one overall pick. You know, uh, you know out
Speaker 4: of Arizona it didn't work out. I was in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You talk about Austin Reeves, you talk about ru uh Hakamurura.
Speaker 4: I think Lebron is saying that. He's saying, Look, dude,
Speaker 4: I want listen. I won with d Wade, one with Botch,
Speaker 4: I won with obviously. You know you talk about it
Speaker 4: went over there with Kyrie, right, Anthony Davis and Dwight
Speaker 4: Howard the reason why I'm the reason why they got
Speaker 4: a championship. I want to help Luca win one and
Speaker 4: then I'm gone because at that point, because Luca is
Speaker 4: the future, no doubt, no doubt about it. Luca is
Speaker 4: the future for the Lakers. I want to win one
Speaker 4: with Luca. I want to win one with a guy
Speaker 4: I got a true center. Deondrey Aiden. Austin Reeves is
Speaker 4: a nice is a nice guard. I think for Lebron,
Speaker 4: Lebron is saying, look, man, I've already done that. I've
Speaker 4: already jumped from team to team, from Cleveland to Miami,
Speaker 4: Miami back to Cleveland, came to the Lakers. My you know,
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna I think he's gonna end it
Speaker 4: with the Lakers because at this point, Steemen, he knows
Speaker 4: if I go to a new team, even if it's
Speaker 4: a good situation, they gonna change up everything because of me.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if if the guys that's in
Speaker 4: the building gonna stand in the building, they add the center,
Speaker 4: like I say, DeAndre Aden. I think Lebron at this point,
Speaker 4: no matter what he does, it's gonna be highly scrutinized
Speaker 4: because he talks too much. Because Lebron says things that
Speaker 4: are unnecessary. Lebron branks unwarranted, unwanted attention to criticism. When
Speaker 4: all you gotta do is play like you don't gotta
Speaker 4: say anything. Lebron, don't talk about the ring coach. If
Speaker 4: you talk about certain people when it comes to the
Speaker 4: ring culture, talk about those people, not to say, if
Speaker 4: it is a culture, you created it. You are the
Speaker 4: You are the president and vice president, CEO, founder, you,
Speaker 4: the HR manager, you, the you, the you, the I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm you. You're the human you know. I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: like you all of it. So I I do think
Speaker 4: he wants to win it with the Lakers because you
Speaker 4: know how prest teaches it is and no matter what
Speaker 4: he wants five, he's not gonna get the six. He
Speaker 4: might he's not gonna get the five, really, but he
Speaker 4: wants to have five because he wants to be able
Speaker 4: to say, man, I got the same amount as Kobe,
Speaker 4: same amount as Magic, you know, and those guys. But
Speaker 4: I do agree with you with at this point of Lebron.
Speaker 4: You know, he's paying them stats. He can still play.
Speaker 4: Lebron ain't even came off the bench yet. All the
Speaker 4: time you leave you win out. He's still he's still
Speaker 4: gonna be starting. He's still Lebron is still the most
Speaker 4: important player in basketball. He's not the best anymore, but
Speaker 4: he's the most important because everything he does we gonna watch.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like the Dallas Cowboys of basketball. We
Speaker 4: got to talk about him because it's the Lakers, because
Speaker 4: they're good for business, They're good for headlines.
Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna sell tickets. You know they're gonna.
Speaker 4: But uh will, I mean, I think this is gonna
Speaker 4: get me his best shot, not only because you got
Speaker 4: a center, you gotta you got a superstar, Luca, you
Speaker 4: got a guy in offsin Reeves.
Speaker 3: I mentioned real how you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like Lebron just played basketball and more basketball,
Speaker 4: less talking because now Michael Jordan about to be in
Speaker 4: the booth. I don't know who booth he gonna be in.
Speaker 4: How long you're gonna be in there. He can be
Speaker 4: in any boof you want, any network, he won't. It's
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan's. He gonna have a and he gonna have
Speaker 4: a lot to say about Lebron a lot.
Speaker 1: So Michael doesn't doesn't know how to sugarcoat anything. He
Speaker 1: doesn't know politically correct. He just knows facts. And people
Speaker 1: may say that, you know, his his vision on the
Speaker 1: game is skewed and things of that nature. And you
Speaker 1: know he's got skin in the game to run Lebron
Speaker 1: to Listen, I said it as soon as they an answer,
Speaker 1: he better, he better retire, and he didn't retire.
Speaker 2: So whatever, whatever, whatever Michael says.
Speaker 1: At this point in time, people going a good portion
Speaker 1: more than half of people who watch basketball are gonna
Speaker 1: get consider that God's word for for lack of a
Speaker 1: better term, and listen. You know, uh, we do critique everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, especially when when it comes to the professional athletes.
Speaker 1: We break everything down. I'll keep setting her saying that
Speaker 1: he's a generational player. Some people were like, oh, well
Speaker 1: is it? Is it ironic? And Michael retired the year
Speaker 1: Lebron came in. Oh he was running from the No,
Speaker 1: Michael was done.
Speaker 2: He had accomplished everything he could and he knew it
Speaker 2: didn't matter.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter what he did as as a as
Speaker 1: a you know, as a GM and as a playeruer
Speaker 1: at the same time that technically it was an owner
Speaker 1: and player at the same time, not GM. But it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like, you know, what
Speaker 1: else can I can I get to this game? Like
Speaker 1: he's he's played against just about just about everyone we're
Speaker 1: playing against. He played against Kobe, he played against Iverson,
Speaker 1: He's played against Shaq. He he played against probably one
Speaker 1: of the greatest errors of basketball we've ever seen. Regardless
Speaker 1: if he if he was the top of the league
Speaker 1: for each each and one of one of those encounters
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: You know, we could debate that, but Michael.
Speaker 1: Jordan is is always going to be, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: number one as far as well people concern in in
Speaker 1: that way just because he's undefeated in championship games.
Speaker 4: And he left and the greatest Saint Michael Jordan did.
Speaker 4: He did a three pat, left to play baseball, came
Speaker 4: back and did a three pat again, which means we
Speaker 4: only could imagine could he have could he have one?
Speaker 4: Could he have won eight straight championship?
Speaker 1: Like like the level of competitive Like that's what separates
Speaker 1: Mike in these conversations when we have you know, is
Speaker 1: Lebron a goat? I mean, he's he's a top five
Speaker 1: player of all time, and like I said, you can
Speaker 1: make arguments for other guys and maybe push him down.
Speaker 1: And like as I say, like as we talk about
Speaker 1: all the time, when when I when I do these
Speaker 1: uh you know these Matt Rushmore is like there's so
Speaker 1: many different variables that we go into this, Like how
Speaker 1: do we properly digest all this off. But he he's
Speaker 1: the ultimate competitor. It's not to sit there and say
Speaker 1: Lebron isn't. It's just how Michael went about it, how
Speaker 1: he did it when when he had his chances, he
Speaker 1: didn't falter.
Speaker 2: Was he always the guy taking the shot?
Speaker 1: No, he he was smart enough to know when he
Speaker 1: had to take the shot and when he.
Speaker 2: Had to pass off.
Speaker 1: Like like I'm sure to this day, you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: John Paxson is probably thanking him so many times because
Speaker 1: he people know his name because Michael passing the ball
Speaker 1: and he had one of the biggest shots of his life.
Speaker 1: But that's what made Michael special. Is is that that
Speaker 1: the little things to know, like to pass it here,
Speaker 1: to take the shot there.
Speaker 2: It's it's what separates him. And you know, it's you know,
Speaker 2: six to Zeroe championship games.
Speaker 1: You know, uh, you know, uh, national championship, didn't didn't
Speaker 1: lose his chance there, two Olympics, didn't lose his chance there.
Speaker 2: Did Lebron went off of his Olympic Olympic chances.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: See, this is like I said, this is why there's
Speaker 1: like there's slight differences. Michael was the ultimate competitor and leader.
Speaker 1: Lebron may be a competitor, a great competitor, a good leader,
Speaker 1: wasn't a great leader, and we can have we can
Speaker 1: have that discussion. I'm not saying that that he isn't
Speaker 1: a leader and and guys don't look up to him
Speaker 1: and and things of that and things like that. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't on Mike's level. And that's why he's on
Speaker 1: on that that that different tier. That's why that like
Speaker 1: Kobe's on that different tier. That's why I still sit
Speaker 1: there and say that Lebron isn't the greatest Laker of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 3: Sah no, no, no, that's not that's not even a discussion.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about the greatest laker about in.
Speaker 1: My opinion, and there's nothing wrong with that. Like we're
Speaker 1: chasing the this ntainer like he's chasing the unicorn.
Speaker 2: At this point in time.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's Lebron, Lebron is. We'll never listen,
Speaker 4: We'll never see another Mic again, We'll never see another
Speaker 4: Kobe again, We'll never see another Lebron again. Right when
Speaker 4: you talk about their contributions to the game, well made.
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan is. Two coats used to dominate basketball.
Speaker 4: You had to you had you had the Lakers with magic.
Speaker 4: You had you had and then you had you know,
Speaker 4: the boss, you know, you had the cells it with Bird.
Speaker 4: Here comes this guy out of North Carolina and he
Speaker 4: and he and here he is in the mid you know,
Speaker 4: in the what the uh middle of America, right there
Speaker 4: in Chicago and he and they're like, who in the
Speaker 4: world is this?
Speaker 3: And then he then here comes.
Speaker 4: The Dream Team with Carl Malone, with David Robinson, with
Speaker 4: with Bird with Magic and who's the best player, barn
Speaker 4: Charge Burr, who the best Michael?
Speaker 3: Michael was the best player on that team bar none.
Speaker 4: Then then you talk about you talk about what he
Speaker 4: meant to the national basketball and so it stays, look
Speaker 4: at what he means the basketball culture, Look at what
Speaker 4: he means to the shoe culture.
Speaker 3: Look at what he means the shoe deals. Exposure.
Speaker 4: Mike paid the way for a lot of He done
Speaker 4: a lot of things for the game that a lot
Speaker 4: of guys get the benefit from.
Speaker 3: The worst thing could have ever happened to Lebron was
Speaker 3: being compared to Mike.
Speaker 4: Just don't do that. Even when Kobe was being compared
Speaker 4: to Mike. Don't do that because that's a losing argument
Speaker 4: for anybody. The only person you can't compare to Mike
Speaker 4: is Kareem Abdul Jabal. That's a conversation. You want to
Speaker 4: talk about the best. Now you can compare Kareem because
Speaker 4: Kareem I think he won five or six and Kareem
Speaker 4: did it in college one three. Mike won one. Mike
Speaker 4: was the best playing college. Karea was the best playing college.
Speaker 3: Three years in the row. They were tried Mike Jersey.
Speaker 4: They retired Mike Jersey with Chicago, they retired Kareem Jersey
Speaker 4: High School. They retired to Jersey but UCLA. They retired
Speaker 4: to Jersey form Milwaukee. They retired to Jersey with the Likers.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is this, the most unstoppable moving basketball
Speaker 4: is the skyhook. I don't know why guys don't want
Speaker 4: to do it. Get out your feelings. Man, It's two
Speaker 4: points and it's guaranteed, So yeah, I do it. When
Speaker 4: it comes to Lebron, I will say this, Lebron gonna
Speaker 4: have to stop playing basketball for us to fully appreciate
Speaker 4: everything he's done.
Speaker 3: Because that's how Mike was.
Speaker 2: Mike was.
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan used to have movies about himself like come
Speaker 4: Fly with Me Airtime. It's like, and all you're doing
Speaker 4: is watching him play basketball. He ain't doing nothing but
Speaker 4: what he does. I think for Lebron it's the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's saying. Look, I've never ever cared about goat conversations because, dude,
Speaker 4: goat is what they tell you. It's not what you
Speaker 4: tell them. You don't tell people what you were. They
Speaker 4: tell you what you were. When you're good at something,
Speaker 4: you tell people you're great at it, they tell you.
Speaker 4: And I think for Michael Jordan the last dance, you
Speaker 4: know how many kids that had his shoes on their
Speaker 4: feet saying, wait a minute, dame, that's the dude I
Speaker 4: kept telling you. Michael Jordan was him him, He's Heimmothy,
Speaker 4: his name is Himothy Jordan. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I do. Listen, if Lebron gets a championship
Speaker 4: or not, your Lebron step kd y'all legacies are seeming
Speaker 4: and all you're doing now is trying to add and
Speaker 4: you've already done it.
Speaker 3: You can't do no more.
Speaker 4: But if you don't do it, let you play do
Speaker 4: the talking don't do a bunch of talking. Even though
Speaker 4: Draymond Green, you know, he got his own podcast. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying it's like, hey, man, go out there and
Speaker 4: do what you do. Man, let you play. Do it
Speaker 4: for you Lebron James. Man Like, at the end of
Speaker 4: the day, your criticism is just feedback because you and
Speaker 4: to him of the conversation too, you just not listen.
Speaker 4: Somebody said, man, oh man, you one of the greatest ever.
Speaker 4: Do it, am I the greatest of all time? That's objective, man,
Speaker 4: because Michael Jordan was no, Michael Jordan is good lord.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, now, we gotta get into that.
Speaker 2: We were talking at the NBA draft.
Speaker 1: A few days ago last week, brother, and the big
Speaker 1: topic of conversation was a spell. But but was drafting
Speaker 1: did not fly after Utah did not still hasn't been
Speaker 1: to Utah, you know, to my recollection, Uh, did you
Speaker 1: tall make a mistake here or grabbing grabbing a guy
Speaker 1: like like Ace eighth Bailey, you know, regardless if he plays,
Speaker 1: if he ever plays for you, trade him to go
Speaker 1: where he wants to go, et cetera, or do you
Speaker 1: feel like that this is this is just the nature
Speaker 1: of how some of these kids try to control where
Speaker 1: they end up.
Speaker 4: I think they made a huge mistake for the for
Speaker 4: for for for these two reasons. He didn't show up
Speaker 4: and work out with you before the before the come
Speaker 4: you know, before before the actual draft. Red flag number one.
Speaker 4: When you draft him, he don't. He don't show up.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been there. He hasn't been out there yet.
Speaker 4: When you start catering to a player who hasn't done
Speaker 4: anything in the NBA, who you don't know how he's
Speaker 4: gonna pan out when he does get there, why are
Speaker 4: you is a's mainly did player? I guess I mean
Speaker 4: went to rug because I mean, yeah, our remember he
Speaker 4: won missing basketball for the state of Georgia. But here's
Speaker 4: the thing, right, the last time he was the best
Speaker 4: player in the country.
Speaker 3: Is the best player is when he was in Georgia.
Speaker 3: He wasn't.
Speaker 4: He wasn't the best player. He wasn't the best player
Speaker 4: in college basketball. I don't think. I don't think. I
Speaker 4: don't think. Now he's an incredible scorer. Now he can
Speaker 4: score the basket, but he's in the NBA. Now, most
Speaker 4: guys in the NBA can scored buckets, right, I just
Speaker 4: think that when you give too much leeway, too much
Speaker 4: grace and credits to a player that ain't even on
Speaker 4: your team.
Speaker 3: He on your team, but he ain't contributed nothing.
Speaker 4: You already you already short listen, number one, you got
Speaker 4: to win that locker room.
Speaker 3: You got to win over your teammates. You ain't doing
Speaker 3: that right now.
Speaker 4: And in such a and we listen, we in the
Speaker 4: n I l entitlement type world right now when the
Speaker 4: coming certain athletes. The best guard in college basketball in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four was Walter Clayton. Look at him at Florida.
Speaker 4: Look at what he did in the freaking out. Look listen,
Speaker 4: who we do against you asked? Then against Auburn, then listen,
Speaker 4: then against you come. Then it against Houston, then against
Speaker 4: Texas Tech. Anyway, ran the guntlet and the sec All
Speaker 4: I'm saying is and was at number one seed Ace Bailey.
Speaker 4: He better be the truth because if not, if you
Speaker 4: already catering to him up Steve before he even get
Speaker 4: on the plane to go to you, why are you
Speaker 4: not on the plane, Like what are we talking about?
Speaker 4: First you want to get drafted, then you don't like
Speaker 4: who drafted you? Man stopped that nonsense, man, get you
Speaker 4: behind that plane, cause because here's the thing, why would
Speaker 4: why would any other why would any of the other
Speaker 4: twenty nine other team winn a trade for as.
Speaker 3: Why trade for what?
Speaker 4: No? No, this is entitlement like you've never seen it.
Speaker 4: This is spoiled like you've never seen it. Ace better
Speaker 4: getting behind out there, man. And like I said, if
Speaker 4: they're gonna make a rough on the man, them players
Speaker 4: here gonna have to play against in the NBA. Oh
Speaker 4: they gonna remember is Wait a minute, you're making a
Speaker 4: microy of what I do because you don't like who
Speaker 4: pitch you and you the fifth overall pig.
Speaker 3: All right, I got you, I got you, I got.
Speaker 2: Listen. All I'm saying is I'm glad my sexters didn't
Speaker 2: take him.
Speaker 1: I know, uh, I know when when the things were
Speaker 1: blowing down to it looked like that we were gonna
Speaker 1: stay there and draft somebody.
Speaker 2: Uh he was initially was on there.
Speaker 1: Then as soon as he basically when you talk about
Speaker 1: he didn't work out, he didn't work out for anybody.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just Utah. He didn't work out for anybody.
Speaker 1: And I think that is the that that is the
Speaker 1: biggest red flag that anyone could ever make. So I mean,
Speaker 1: is he gonna be a good, a great basketball player?
Speaker 1: That that's that's to be argued, debated and seen. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Utah has gotta gotta mess on their hands.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you don't care to to somebody like this.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not he's he's not you know, a
Speaker 1: generational talent. He's not you know, a seventeen you know,
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen year old phenom coming out of high school
Speaker 1: that is, without a doubt, you know, has.
Speaker 2: Like he's not a little Lebron Lebron James. No, he's
Speaker 2: not that.
Speaker 1: So you can't be you can't be doing things along
Speaker 1: these lines as you're trying to go from being a
Speaker 1: young man to a young adult as being a professional
Speaker 1: basketball player.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Utah's in some trouble.
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see him dealt to
Speaker 1: wherever his true destination would What.
Speaker 2: Was That's a that's an argument and discussion for another day.
Speaker 1: But meaning to get into this, We've been talking a
Speaker 1: lot of w NBA people have been upset about me
Speaker 1: and Ben's takes on tick times like they gonna get
Speaker 1: even more more upset. I don't care what you like,
Speaker 1: what you don't like. We're gonna talk about about the facts,
Speaker 1: not feelings. We've already said that on here. You can
Speaker 1: get in your feelings about whatever you don't feel like. Listen,
Speaker 1: we give everyone their flowers, but but we keep it
Speaker 1: real here. So uh and as far as keeping it real,
Speaker 1: we got some problems. We already talked about this. You know,
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, you know, w n B A
Speaker 1: players have officially rejected the first CBA offer from from them. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Phoenix Mercury players have basically uh said it
Speaker 1: with the proposal was a was a slap in the face.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you what we would call a
Speaker 1: slap in the face. Considering the fact that we know,
Speaker 1: like you guys are still in the red. You're still
Speaker 1: not not not you're still losing money, not making money.
Speaker 1: But you guys are probably at your your the last
Speaker 1: few draft classes, you have injected yourself with probably the best.
Speaker 2: Talent that you've seen.
Speaker 1: And that's no disrespect to you know, the shareff Swoops
Speaker 1: of the world that's come through you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the Dawn Stalleys of the world. Like you know we
Speaker 1: can name off all all these great players I've already
Speaker 1: came before. That's not to take anything away from them.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about league wide. I don't think you've
Speaker 1: seen this much talent at at a at a out
Speaker 1: of the female basketball players. And sometimes you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, we talk heavy on on Caitlyn Clark on
Speaker 1: Angel Reese, and these are just two stars.
Speaker 2: These are two of the faces of the league at
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 1: I still don't think neither one of those two are
Speaker 1: are a top five player in the league right now.
Speaker 1: I think there's somebody who is helping the league grow
Speaker 1: exponentially in a way they've never seen before. I think
Speaker 1: this draft class is even better than the one we
Speaker 1: had last year. You know, you know, Sophie Conneyhm's been
Speaker 1: already putting out there page has been doing her thing
Speaker 1: like like you're.
Speaker 2: Getting a great, a great class of athletes right now.
Speaker 1: And I think it would be a monumental mistake to
Speaker 1: try to do, you know, a player strike, a union strike,
Speaker 1: however you want a word that, because you feel this
Speaker 1: offer isn't where you want it to be.
Speaker 2: I think as.
Speaker 1: Long as you guys are getting you know, a five
Speaker 1: fifteen percent raise on what where your contracts are currently at.
Speaker 2: Then I don't think it is a slap in the face.
Speaker 1: You're still doing revenue sharing from the NBA to keep
Speaker 1: you guys aflute. You're you know, you're you're just in
Speaker 1: the pricess it of expanding to almost twenty teams at
Speaker 1: this point in time. You're getting the growth. Don't don't
Speaker 1: stop the growth. Don't stop the train moving forward, keep
Speaker 1: it going. Find some common ground. You know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you only sign it to year CBA. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: you don't you don't go, you know, a five year,
Speaker 1: ten year, et cetera. You go something short term. Maybe
Speaker 1: you always.
Speaker 2: Sign a one year CBA and see come back to
Speaker 2: the table next year. But don't don't sit there and
Speaker 2: and and you know, you know.
Speaker 1: Cut off your nose despite your faces. As as the
Speaker 1: saying goes, I think rejecting this one. You know, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't get the actual numbers on what it was yet,
Speaker 1: but I want to get your thoughts on this me.
Speaker 1: And you've already kind of kind of like discuss this.
Speaker 1: This is a this is a bad idea. This is
Speaker 1: the route that these players are going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, popularity and productivity doesn't really equate, you know, to profitability.
Speaker 3: And I think you say the best.
Speaker 4: I don't think the wn man has ever been more
Speaker 4: popular than it is right now. Right, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's been more eyes than it's ever been. But you
Speaker 4: got to make money. You take any business that's not
Speaker 4: making money, most of the time, they're not around anymore.
Speaker 4: They're given the NBA is making sure that it's given. Uh,
Speaker 4: the w NBA time, money, resources, and patience. Well, when
Speaker 4: you say as a slap in the face, is it
Speaker 4: because what you expect to get and what the numbers
Speaker 4: say we can afford to give you, it's two total
Speaker 4: different things. And I think sometimes Stephen, when you're not
Speaker 4: in these negotiating rooms, at these negotiating tables, perception is
Speaker 4: not reality. Bottom line is we're still operating in the
Speaker 4: red now. I don't think they have to deal with
Speaker 4: regular flights. They get charter flights. Now they're getting better. Well,
Speaker 4: everything you get is an upgrade costs more money. Charter
Speaker 4: fly is gonna cost more money, and I get it.
Speaker 4: But when everybody doesn't get endorsedment with them, a lot
Speaker 4: of these young ladies they have to go overseas to
Speaker 4: make money to the same their life. Everybody got a
Speaker 4: kayle To Clark or Angel Reese or a Page or
Speaker 4: Britain for Brittany Steward and those guys, those girls. But
Speaker 4: I think sometimes Steven, when they sitting down the negotiating table,
Speaker 4: that's where reality hits. Ain't no crowds in there, ain't
Speaker 4: no Cayler Clarks, Angel Reese is in there. You know.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's saying this is where we are, this
Speaker 4: is where we need to be to just break even.
Speaker 4: We're not even breaking even. We're not breaking anything just
Speaker 4: because when Angel Reason came Clark played, y'all had recognimbers.
Speaker 4: That's one game out of all games throughout the season.
Speaker 3: So I do agree.
Speaker 4: Sometimes, man, you got to bite the bullet to keep
Speaker 4: the momentum going because if y'all doing d strike, no
Speaker 4: one knows. Because here's the thing. If you do gonna
Speaker 4: strike using to lift the strike, you gotta agree to
Speaker 4: the CBA. They not gonna those numbers. I can't pour
Speaker 4: a numbers from something that's not there. If it's not there,
Speaker 4: I got to give you what we got and thank
Speaker 4: God for the NBA, or there will be no w
Speaker 4: n b A. So we are doing our best to
Speaker 4: try to meet in the middle. In the middle, and
Speaker 4: I always gonna be it ain't. It ain't gonna feel
Speaker 4: the same. But if if the momentum that they have
Speaker 4: right now is haulted because they want to go on strike,
Speaker 4: I can respect it, but it's not gonna be good
Speaker 4: because the one thing that the w n b A
Speaker 4: players do not have is leverage. You don't have any
Speaker 4: you just don't. And the only way you gain leverage
Speaker 4: is through it's through eyes, TV deals, revenue and making money.
Speaker 4: You're not making any money. So, like I said, Stee,
Speaker 4: if you don't know too many things that's been you've
Speaker 4: never heard of, excuse me a professional league that's been
Speaker 4: in the red this long that's still around, that's never happened,
Speaker 4: never if this, if this was, if this was the NBA,
Speaker 4: they would have to shut it down. That we can't
Speaker 4: go on without no money. So I don't I don't
Speaker 4: know where the numbers are. I know, and listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not saying the numbers aren't disrespectful, but the fact they
Speaker 4: got any numbers at all and y'all ain't making no money.
Speaker 4: Think about that. They're trying to come to the table
Speaker 4: with something, and you don't think that something is enough. Okay,
Speaker 4: So where are we supposed to get the other money
Speaker 4: that y'all want to make y'all agree to it.
Speaker 3: Where's that money's supposed to come from?
Speaker 4: Because guess what if we pulling money from here to
Speaker 4: satisfy there, that mean we're gonna be pulling money from somewhere.
Speaker 4: So so you might have to go from charter flights
Speaker 4: and no charter flights.
Speaker 2: Again like this, It ain't college where you got bruisters.
Speaker 1: Just just throwing money at the university, and the NBA
Speaker 1: is only gonna throw money at you for so along.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, while they're.
Speaker 1: They're they're waiting for you to patiently turn you know,
Speaker 1: you know, turn red to black. So we'll we'll see
Speaker 1: how it develops. Like I said, I hope whoever whoever's
Speaker 1: in charge of, you know, the players Union, et cetera,
Speaker 1: it's smart enough to not allow them to walk.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: During the offseason, Angel Reeves was basically saying that they should.
Speaker 1: I think that would be foolhearted and silly. You don't
Speaker 1: you don't stop the train from moving forward when the
Speaker 1: train's going as faces as.
Speaker 2: It's ever gone at this point in time.
Speaker 1: So uh again, we'll we'll see how everything shakes out
Speaker 1: if they can come to agreement. Like I said, if
Speaker 1: they're smart, you know that they only signed something for
Speaker 1: a few years, and and see what the growth is
Speaker 1: over the next few to see if they do get it,
Speaker 1: that they do get into the black and they do
Speaker 1: start to see more growth and things like you're you're
Speaker 1: gonna be bringing three more teams in over the next
Speaker 1: five years. Relax, and you know, the saying goes, Roome
Speaker 1: wasn't built in a day, and they say it for
Speaker 1: a reason.
Speaker 2: So and don't reedy like.
Speaker 1: Roome wasn't gonna watch it wither away after you, after
Speaker 1: you built all all all of this, this free publicity,
Speaker 1: this this momentum that you built, you had, you had,
Speaker 1: you're having some exceptional athletes of all types of background
Speaker 1: coming into your sport.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't don't put don't pull the e brake
Speaker 1: up and jump off the rails.
Speaker 2: Stay the course is kind of kind of where I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with this.
Speaker 1: So now again, changing gears again, We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: gonna do something that that slightly put a little smile
Speaker 1: on Ben's face as Home Run Derby has been announced.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be down there in Atlanta, and obviously you
Speaker 1: got you got your your your boy ronan ocoun your
Speaker 1: junior is one of the three names being already named
Speaker 1: in the run derby participants.
Speaker 2: Who do you think are gonna gonna run out?
Speaker 1: You know the next handful of guys that we're gonna
Speaker 1: see in in the derby? And Howard excited are you
Speaker 1: for the upcoming All Star game?
Speaker 4: Man? The fact that the fact that the fact that
Speaker 4: we get our do over was supposed to have it
Speaker 4: here before it got you know, it got shut down.
Speaker 3: For different reason.
Speaker 4: But here we are. Love fact, listen, love the fact
Speaker 4: that my brains aren't playing well. But you know roller
Speaker 4: Cooey Jr. Won the Best Players in Baseball a couple
Speaker 4: of years from moving here and win the National League MVP.
Speaker 4: But guys that I want to see in it, the
Speaker 4: usual suspect Peter Alonzo. He got to enter it. I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, come, I mean, he gotta do it. I
Speaker 4: won't see Peter Alonzo in it, aery judge. All you
Speaker 4: do is hit bombs, right, Come on, get in the thing. Man,
Speaker 4: you ain't got nothing the news. One Soto, listen, you
Speaker 4: signed a gargantuan deal in off season to go with
Speaker 4: the Mets, not the Yankees.
Speaker 3: I respect it, and do do.
Speaker 4: I even got to say it Atny. Come on, man,
Speaker 4: come on, man, come on, a Tony jump in it
Speaker 4: right now. Here's a name. I don't know if he's
Speaker 4: eligible to do it. And Jack cast me on off
Speaker 4: the Florida Gators. Now he's with the Royals. I don't
Speaker 4: know if he's been in the he I don't know
Speaker 4: if he's been in the majors long enough to do it.
Speaker 4: He hits the long ball, Steven he listen. He has
Speaker 4: a problem with bass. He has a problem with two things,
Speaker 4: pitchers and baseballs. He don't like pitchers, and he don't
Speaker 4: like that he murders him. But Peter Alonzo, oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. One more I said. I said it, one Soto.
Speaker 4: You know a Tani Aaron, Judge, Peter Lionzo, come on,
Speaker 4: cus listen when people say, why is that important? Man,
Speaker 4: come on, man, we ain't too many. Here's a move
Speaker 4: from where we had. But I mean Ken KRIPACII. These
Speaker 4: are when the best players getting the Home Run Derby,
Speaker 4: the show off that power, the show off, that swing,
Speaker 4: the show off, that carisma. Man, come on, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Mark McGuire, huh, Sammy Sosa, huh like that. The home
Speaker 4: run Derby is the premier event in the All The
Speaker 4: All Star Game is incredible because you can't fake it.
Speaker 4: But the home run Derby, I mean, Chris Breman back
Speaker 4: back back, back back back. Co on, come on, man,
Speaker 4: Truest Part, Battery Part for those of you ain't ever
Speaker 4: been there, go down loud or go to Battery Park,
Speaker 4: go to Truest Field.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, man, we got to get right.
Speaker 4: The home Run Derby to me is prestigeons because it
Speaker 4: ain't like the dun Contest of where the best dunkers
Speaker 4: won't get it. Lebron never got in it. I don't
Speaker 4: know why he didn't get in it. You don't got
Speaker 4: to win it, man, I mean sometime it's just the
Speaker 4: bragging rights. But yeah, I do, I do. I do
Speaker 4: home to see Petere Lonzo, Aaron Judge a tiny and
Speaker 4: Juan Soto jumping that thing and maybe we'll get a surprise.
Speaker 3: But come on, man, jump into freaking thing. It ain't
Speaker 3: gonna hurt.
Speaker 4: It's not gonna hurt.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's slightly become like almost like
Speaker 1: a Madden Curse type type thing, right, because a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys, you know that they do the home
Speaker 1: run Derby and then all of a sudden after the
Speaker 1: All Star Green there, it's kind of I think why
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are starting to stay away from it.
Speaker 2: But I totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: When we're talking about the All Star Game, it's almost
Speaker 1: the actual game is almost irrelevant.
Speaker 2: The only thing that that that the.
Speaker 1: Fans want to see, even the players want to see,
Speaker 1: is who's gonna enter in.
Speaker 2: The home Run Derby and who's who's gonna win it.
Speaker 1: I am just prayful that that, uh, none of my
Speaker 1: phillies getting in.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Kyle Schwarber in it. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I think we we We've seen
Speaker 2: Alec Bowman it last year. Don't want to see him
Speaker 2: in it this year. He finally got his swing going right.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what it is, is is that
Speaker 1: when you do the home run Derby, it kind of
Speaker 1: changes the way you're looking at things, changing the way
Speaker 1: you swing at things and it does affect you moving forward.
Speaker 2: And slumps are real in baseball, man, it is real.
Speaker 2: So uh uh for for for for me saying who
Speaker 2: who I want to add it? I just don't want
Speaker 2: to Philly and let Ronald coon you in.
Speaker 1: Let let him add another trophy to the trophy case.
Speaker 1: He got the m v P, he's gotten, he's got
Speaker 1: himself a world Series title. Let him get talk run
Speaker 1: Derby Championship.
Speaker 4: Now, I mean, listen, he listen. Let's see. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm looking here. He's been he's been in. He's been
Speaker 4: in like he's been a home run derby I think
Speaker 4: like three times. But he was in it in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two when he won the m v P. In
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, I thought, people like, look he wanted
Speaker 4: he won v N L N v P. That's and
Speaker 4: you know that's the same you're Bryce Harper said.
Speaker 3: Twenty four.
Speaker 4: He said, no, that's saying you're Bryce Harper said, I
Speaker 4: think Royland cuen j sucks. But then he came back
Speaker 4: and said, man, I was just talking. Man, I don't
Speaker 4: mean that, you know.
Speaker 1: My listener, it's it's it's it's we already know what
Speaker 1: it is it's mental warfare, like of course these guys
Speaker 1: can't really do like I still think the playoff win. Uh,
Speaker 1: after he hits the home run and he just points
Speaker 1: out him, I think that was that was one of
Speaker 1: those numbers.
Speaker 2: It's like all right, all right, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Like if it's moments like that is kind of
Speaker 1: what makes baseball cool.
Speaker 2: But uh, I do think we we we uh.
Speaker 1: We do need to get get a little bit more
Speaker 1: star power in there. I'm with you with uh with
Speaker 1: with the get no tany in there. I think that
Speaker 1: that would that would be cool. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he will or won't, but it is the the premiere
Speaker 1: all must must watch event when when it comes to
Speaker 1: All Star Game, it's it's the only thing that is
Speaker 1: saving them in that aspect. And actually I want to
Speaker 1: go further back more. I want to see see them
Speaker 1: keep their uniforms. I don't want to see in all
Speaker 1: an All Star Game uniforms or anything like that anymore.
Speaker 2: Go back to how it was, let them play with
Speaker 2: their uniforms.
Speaker 1: Like how the last time I remember watching the All
Speaker 1: Star Game was when Randy Johnson buzzed John Cruck and
Speaker 1: John Craft is like now, but I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm good. He was.
Speaker 1: He was swinging defensively after that, Like, we don't have
Speaker 1: these moments anymore in the All Star Game, and I
Speaker 1: think it's why I think the home run Derby has
Speaker 1: taken prestige over the game. Make the game like game
Speaker 1: important again. I agree, like you can't you can't fake
Speaker 1: it in baseball. It's not like it's not like the
Speaker 1: you know, flag football that they've done to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Me and You've already talked about how you fix that
Speaker 1: in football. But it is the premiere event for All
Speaker 1: Star Game weekend, and I do hope we get a
Speaker 1: little bit more more power to it. I would like
Speaker 1: to see an Aaron Judge, you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: would like to see a want a Jan Soto compete
Speaker 1: as well. I don't know if they will. We'll see
Speaker 1: how it all shakes out. But I'm definitely definitely excited
Speaker 1: for the for the home run Derby as I always am.
Speaker 1: So definitely wanted to put that one out there for you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that one. But
Speaker 1: getting into some football stuff again, you know, we it's
Speaker 1: that time of year where we're doing list. We're doing
Speaker 1: list I'm not doing it. We got we got about
Speaker 1: another month or two before we talking about potential like
Speaker 1: who's gonna win divisions and stuff like that. We still
Speaker 1: have to see how these rosters look before we can
Speaker 1: kind of get there.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun times getting to that as
Speaker 2: we get to it.
Speaker 1: But you know, we've been we've been harping on on
Speaker 1: the position battles and things of that nature. I wanted
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on on a couple of different things.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the wide receivers less in a minute,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to hear who are some of your
Speaker 1: top five meanest players that just in general, we're not
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be this generation.
Speaker 2: We could just be talking about all the time.
Speaker 1: You can even have your own personalists who are just
Speaker 1: the meanest guys you've ever played with. And I and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something for you. I'm gonna handicap you.
Speaker 1: No safeties, oh, no safeties, man?
Speaker 4: Oh I got well, I got okay, okay, no, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that. I like that. Okay, So then so here,
Speaker 4: so my my, my two honorable mentions before I get
Speaker 4: in the top five, that would be Brian Dawkins and
Speaker 4: Ronnie LYI that that that's my that's my that's my honorable.
Speaker 2: I would put all of them like like my. That's
Speaker 2: why I took it away from myself, because I would go,
Speaker 2: Rian Dawkins, Ronnie Live. You know, we can we can
Speaker 2: throw Ed.
Speaker 1: Reed in there, Steve att Order like, we can literally go.
Speaker 1: We can go with a five, a five for five
Speaker 1: list of safeties. And that's why I did it to
Speaker 1: myself too.
Speaker 4: So okay, my top five, I'm going from five to one.
Speaker 4: My number five. When he played a Dominican sue, a
Speaker 4: Dominagan sue used to scare people to death coming out
Speaker 4: of Nebraska. Man, Like, listen, his name is a Domagan.
Speaker 4: I can say it, I cannot spell it. A Dominagan
Speaker 4: sounds like a dude that don't play games. Man, Like,
Speaker 4: what his name? His name is a Domagan? Like it
Speaker 4: did start with the end, yeah, but there was it's
Speaker 4: too many syllables in the middle. I cannot but a
Speaker 4: Dominus sue is my number five, my number four. James Harrison.
Speaker 4: James Harrison scares people right now. People are afraid the
Speaker 4: death of James Harrison, somebody who did not want to
Speaker 4: get with because he was just yes, yes, my number three,
Speaker 4: the greatest linebacker ever.
Speaker 3: Ray Lewis scared people.
Speaker 4: He was everywhere. I got to tell the play against
Speaker 4: ray Lewis twice. It was not a good time. My
Speaker 4: number two, Oh my god, Aaron Donald. Good Lord, Like,
Speaker 4: where did this dude come from? Where did Aaron Donald
Speaker 4: come from? Like that's probably the greatest teen year career
Speaker 4: you're gonna see from stat what with nine time first
Speaker 4: Team All Pro, two time Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl free.
Speaker 3: And my number one scariest player, I mean surprised to No.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor is the scarer He is football player to
Speaker 4: ever put on pants because he created two positions outside linebacker.
Speaker 4: Now your left tackle better be nasty good because he's coming.
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor number one, Aaron Donald number two, ray Lewis
Speaker 4: number three, James Hans at number four, and a Dominicans
Speaker 4: suone number five, with my honorwa mentions.
Speaker 3: Being running lot and Brian Duncan.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it, brother, So I'm gonna go a little
Speaker 1: bit different. Obviously, you know you know your your your
Speaker 1: number five is on my list, right, But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with an Eagle. I'm gonna absolutely start with an
Speaker 1: Eagle's concrete, Charlie. You know, it's Chuck Mcaneric one of
Speaker 1: the few guys that that was that was a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl or both ways. He was a Pro Bowl linebacker.
Speaker 1: He was a Pro Pro Bowl offensive lineman. It's it's
Speaker 1: one of those rare things.
Speaker 2: And he was mean. He was nasty.
Speaker 1: He talked to you, he talked crap to you, and
Speaker 1: and there's there's not much you can do to say
Speaker 1: that one one that no one ever mentions. He wasn't
Speaker 1: just mean, he was dirty. He was nasty.
Speaker 2: Another former Eagle, but that's not where he was remembered for.
Speaker 2: Mister Bill Romansky. Yes, nasty Bill.
Speaker 4: Wow be wild Bell. He was Wow Wow wild be
Speaker 4: a roman Now he was no more for his time
Speaker 4: with Denver, in his time with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: But he was asked, I won't.
Speaker 2: Forgets about he played in San Francisco. Man, he was
Speaker 2: part of championships team.
Speaker 4: He was wild Bill Man that the way, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: wild Bill was nice.
Speaker 2: So uh Bruce Smith, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean the mot the moat two hundred careers said
Speaker 4: two hundred, come on, two hundred.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Now obviously you know Domicans who's my number.
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 2: He was?
Speaker 1: I still love the stuff Brady used to uh to
Speaker 1: talk about him. He's trying to talk him up. He's
Speaker 1: like talking to me, you ain't my friend, Like we
Speaker 1: ain't cool. I'm gonna take your head off. Boy, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And he didn't mention them.
Speaker 2: I'm going old school tick buckets man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, yeah, man, I gotta go, but I mean listen,
Speaker 4: I mean, and guys, we didn't mention man mean Joe Green,
Speaker 4: I mean his name is mean Deacon Deacon Jones. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, yeah, I mean like, oh my god, Warren
Speaker 4: Warren Sap in his horny, Oh my god, I mean you,
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was the players man, that
Speaker 4: just you already knew it.
Speaker 2: Zach You know that, you know Zach Thomas, Like yeah.
Speaker 1: They weren't all like mean as far as like like
Speaker 1: you know, they they just had this mean the the market.
Speaker 4: The market market where the market is where in his
Speaker 4: heyday he was he was a monster von Miller when
Speaker 4: he was in his heyday. Like you couldn't block these dudes, man,
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a bunch. It's a bunch
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 2: A bunch of these lists definitely aren't fair.
Speaker 4: I told you, I told you that's.
Speaker 2: My objective there. You know, we all have our favorites,
Speaker 2: we all have our ones that we remember. Uh. I
Speaker 2: was trying to go a little bit different than mine.
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew we were good. You had a
Speaker 2: little difference with yours.
Speaker 1: So like obviously, like like I said, we literally could
Speaker 1: do a whole one of safeties.
Speaker 4: And and and and another honorable mention, may he recipes
Speaker 4: Sean Taylor.
Speaker 3: Didn't you didn't want to have to deal with that
Speaker 3: guy at all, John Lynch.
Speaker 4: It's a bunch of them, and it's a bunch of safeties,
Speaker 4: man safety, Earl Earl Thomas cam Chancellor.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was a bunch of them.
Speaker 4: They would they would knock your soul out your body,
Speaker 4: and your soul will walk out the stadium, get in
Speaker 4: the car and drive home.
Speaker 3: You have to get an uber Holmes. Right, hold, what
Speaker 3: are you?
Speaker 4: What are your teammates?
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get into it because I came across
Speaker 1: one of the one of the one of these top
Speaker 1: ten lists from from these Uh, I think it's like
Speaker 1: a Yahoo one of these Jahoo writer guys and not
Speaker 1: a bad list. But again, why why do I keep
Speaker 1: seeing Ceedee Lamb?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Listen, he is, he is a name in this league,
Speaker 1: but I don't think I don't think he belongs in
Speaker 1: the top five. This is why I like, I have
Speaker 1: problems with placement with it, but overall not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna tear you know, you know,
Speaker 1: tear tear this uh, this writer that, this content creator
Speaker 1: apart for their list. Guess what what we'll do is
Speaker 1: we'll go back to back right right, So we'll start
Speaker 1: the top and go and go down.
Speaker 4: Let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 2: So who you feeling? Get your number one? My friend?
Speaker 4: I mean, look, my number one is Jamar Chase. For
Speaker 4: a lot of reasons. Jamar Chase coming out the Triple Crown.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have any weaknesses to his game. Short short passes,
Speaker 4: taking for the house, can go deep and go across
Speaker 4: the middle, care route you up, hat speed, has the hands,
Speaker 4: has the tenacity.
Speaker 3: I got Jamar Chase number one receiver in the league.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm gonna honer out. I have already picked
Speaker 1: him the number one on the list.
Speaker 2: Before it's it's A J. Brown. He's listen, listen.
Speaker 1: He he he is is a special guy, both on
Speaker 1: the field the intangibles as a leader. You know, no, no,
Speaker 1: he owns the slant. Nobody, no, nobody does the slam
Speaker 1: for for better and and I don't see a whole
Speaker 1: lot of people taking it to the house. He's got
Speaker 1: three different times over the four over the over the
Speaker 1: past few years he's.
Speaker 2: Been in the Philadelphia where he's taking slants to the house.
Speaker 2: It's not an easy thing to do. Most guys, most
Speaker 2: guys that you know, you're you're you're you know.
Speaker 1: And that being said there, I've seen Jamar Chase turn
Speaker 1: a curvel route into a touchdown. So he's he's two
Speaker 1: on my list, like you know, and we do this
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4: And A J.
Speaker 2: Brown's you know, one, A one, B. Hell.
Speaker 1: You know, we can even make an argument for the
Speaker 1: next guy would be on my list will be you know,
Speaker 1: you know one see.
Speaker 2: But you know you actually have to give him a
Speaker 2: ranking here. A J.
Speaker 1: Brown is my number one. You know you'd already set
Speaker 1: him as number as your number one. He's my number two.
Speaker 1: Is Jamar Chase, Who is your number two on this list?
Speaker 4: My number? My number two was A J.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 3: I mean I think that a J.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 3: But everything for everything you just mentioned, because a J.
Speaker 4: Brown, A J. Brown can do. He's the meanest receiver
Speaker 4: in football. He plays football with an edge on him.
Speaker 4: He don't like dbs. You don't like the fact that
Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans didn't think he would worth twenty mil.
Speaker 4: Like I work more than that. I want to give
Speaker 4: me seventeen. I think I think A J. Brown can
Speaker 4: route you up. He's the number one guy. He can
Speaker 4: play on the outside, playing the slap blocks. He nasty.
Speaker 3: I mean AJ Brown is the plee.
Speaker 1: Heackage, Yes, sir, he is. And the guy that was
Speaker 1: almost the eagle is my number three.
Speaker 2: It's justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: He yeah, yeah, there's not much that the guy can't
Speaker 1: It's unfortunately he's stuck down there in Minnesota. You know,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: with quarterback. You don't know if if JJ JJ is
Speaker 1: going to be the real deal down there or if
Speaker 1: they're going to be in trouble, and and uh, they're
Speaker 1: one of the toughest divisions in football. You know, I
Speaker 1: still think you know, you know, Packers, Packers, Vikings, Bears
Speaker 1: is going to be an interesting the divisions.
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting about the lines look at me like being
Speaker 2: a knuckleheader.
Speaker 1: That division is nasty right now. So it's it's always fun.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, Justin Jefferson's my number three. Three
Speaker 1: who's number three?
Speaker 4: He's my number three as well, Jessein Jefferson. I mean
Speaker 4: that dude. His goal is to rout you. His goal
Speaker 4: is to make you look bad on Sundays. If he can,
Speaker 4: he can rout you up. He can run any route.
Speaker 4: I mean he's really listen, man, he said he's a
Speaker 4: Silkies moved route runnerner really really really like like really
Speaker 4: really nice at the time for his robes comes in
Speaker 4: out of his breaks and he want to do your dirty.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Jesse Jefferson is my number three.
Speaker 1: Now my number four, I am gonna go in my division.
Speaker 1: Scary Terry mcclaurin, man, he doesn't get enough love. He's
Speaker 1: trying to get his contract situated down down there and
Speaker 1: uh down there with the commanders.
Speaker 2: They better keep him because if not, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: a very upset young man. And Jaden Daniels because he is.
Speaker 1: A top top four, top five wide receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You can argue on all you women like he. You know,
Speaker 1: they call him scary, terry or a reason because you
Speaker 1: know he's got d b DB's dropping a little fall
Speaker 1: from their pants because they don't know what that guy's
Speaker 1: gonna do.
Speaker 2: He can. He's another one of these guys that he
Speaker 2: can beat you over the top, he can beat you over.
Speaker 1: Underneath, he can run you, he can run circles around
Speaker 1: you in the middle. He's he's dangerous throughout the route, trade, inside, outside.
Speaker 2: He can beat you any way he wants to.
Speaker 1: It's all the matter, you know, of howeverything kuys of
Speaker 1: players out, But he's my number four.
Speaker 2: What you got for me?
Speaker 4: Ben? My number four? I mean coming out of Detroit
Speaker 4: the mind Saint Brown. I mean he he's redefining what
Speaker 4: you can do in the slide because I mean he
Speaker 4: does everything. I mean, he's obviously not gonna kill you,
Speaker 4: uh you know down the scene. But you're talking about
Speaker 4: making money inside the heads, inside the numbers. Every time
Speaker 4: they need a big play, they ain't going to James,
Speaker 4: will They going to mine? Say Brown? First team at
Speaker 4: bro Amna Saint Brown, who knows every single receiver in
Speaker 4: his draft. They gotta take it over him. I just
Speaker 4: like the way he I like the way he played football.
Speaker 4: My number four is a mont Saint Brown, mister route
Speaker 4: you up in the slot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's number My number five a mont Saint Brown.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's what keeps Jared Golf in that
Speaker 1: passing game going.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, Uh, they got a pretty good title.
Speaker 1: And over there who found himself for was it not
Speaker 1: ninety four in the top one hundred list this year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1: Uh he's one of those guys man, as you said,
Speaker 1: you know, redefining what it says that to kill these
Speaker 1: guys in the slot.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, is in you know, arguably the the the
Speaker 1: second or third best team in the in the NFC
Speaker 1: over over the last handful of years.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got a brother in this league too, somewhere.
Speaker 1: Last I checked, he was in Chicago. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if he's still there now, but uh, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the family lineage.
Speaker 2: Is strong, and he's he's doing this thing down there
Speaker 2: in Detroit.
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't do it too well this season
Speaker 1: because I want my boys to run it back.
Speaker 2: But he's my number five. Who you got at five?
Speaker 2: My friend?
Speaker 4: I know he talks a lot of trash. I know,
Speaker 4: I know every time you talk to him, he don't
Speaker 4: want to be where he is. I got Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 4: and I still think Tyreek is the top caliber receiver.
Speaker 3: Gets on your.
Speaker 4: Nerves with the antics, man like it tops a lot.
Speaker 4: But when he's at his bank, man, Tyreek, Tyreek nasty man.
Speaker 4: He can he could.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to play over the top.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to double if you don't want to
Speaker 4: put it one on one because he's going to get
Speaker 4: uging for you. So for me my number five, you know,
Speaker 4: even though I don't like to answer that, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go Tyreek Hill my number five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's my number six, he's my number six.
Speaker 1: He's just he's falling out out of the top five
Speaker 1: with me, you know.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know for some of the stuff.
Speaker 1: For as you said, the antics, the tape shows you
Speaker 1: all all too well. Man, he takes plays off. He's
Speaker 1: not targeted. He's not happy, you know, unless he unless
Speaker 1: he's catching ten ten balls a game for for you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Buck you know, Buck eighty buck ninety two
Speaker 1: hundred yards.
Speaker 2: He's not a happy man.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's you know, a pride thing
Speaker 1: and ego thing whatever, you know. I think at some
Speaker 1: point in time, like, you know, he needs to grow
Speaker 1: up in that sense. And you know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: try to tell tell a high level athlete of that
Speaker 1: nature that that, you know, they need to come back
Speaker 1: down to earth a little bit and be more about
Speaker 1: the team.
Speaker 2: Like he's got all the other accolades.
Speaker 1: I mean, he you know, it's it's rough and another thing,
Speaker 1: like as you're saying, he's not happy where he was,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to see something happened to him
Speaker 1: wind up in Kansas City again sometime over the next
Speaker 1: few years. I know the there'd be a hard, hard
Speaker 1: re engagement with with the Kansas City fans, But I
Speaker 1: truly think that that.
Speaker 2: They all made a mistake. I mean, obviously Kansas City
Speaker 2: want more won that trade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely they want They
Speaker 4: don't want super Bowls without him. I think I think
Speaker 4: they were they would like to have Tyreek back, but
Speaker 4: they would want Tyreek to be like, look, man, we
Speaker 4: want we want you back, man, but we don't want
Speaker 4: the antics no more. Man. It's all about It's all
Speaker 4: about Peter Homes, It's all about Andy Reid, it's all
Speaker 4: about the squad.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: We know since then, you know, got married, had a
Speaker 4: bunch of kids. Hey, man, just keep it about keep
Speaker 4: it about football, man, less about the brand, more about
Speaker 4: the more about.
Speaker 2: Canasit now we'll all go at seven.
Speaker 4: No, I know, I think I got no. I think
Speaker 4: I gotta do my number six real quick. I think
Speaker 4: I did five. My number six is Ceedee Lamb. I
Speaker 4: got Ceenee Lamb at number six.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 4: I got c D the slack King, the sly king.
Speaker 4: He is a slack king. Mama, say Brown will say
Speaker 4: something about that. But I got Ceedee Lamb as my
Speaker 4: number six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't got him on my list. I'm not listen.
Speaker 1: Man. He had a chance last year when Dak wasn't
Speaker 1: there to be the guy, and what happened.
Speaker 2: He disappeared. I have a problem with that.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys on this list. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback is. If there's an injury, if
Speaker 1: the offensive lines mad, they perform regardless. And that's why
Speaker 1: I don't like. You can call me, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, I'm a hater or whatever. I still
Speaker 1: respect talent when I see it. I'm not sitting there
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't have the talent to be on this list.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying what I've seen from him over the
Speaker 1: last few years, I wouldn't put him there. And we're
Speaker 1: as I said, he's the slock King is because that's
Speaker 1: the that's the only time we see him do well,
Speaker 1: not when he's mashed up with the best cornerback, even
Speaker 1: not when he's mashed up with the second best quarterback.
Speaker 1: He picks the weak, weakest. Lincoln picks on them. And
Speaker 1: that's why I have a problem. I can't consider him
Speaker 1: a top receiver. When you were talking about slock Kings,
Speaker 1: these guys move around, they're not They're not staying there.
Speaker 1: He stays in the slot and that's where he gets.
Speaker 1: That's where he gets most of his numbers.
Speaker 2: Is why I refer to him and that that nature.
Speaker 2: So he you know, non spoiler alert, he's not in my.
Speaker 3: Top ten, but I respect it.
Speaker 4: I respect it.
Speaker 1: My seven is the guy's moved around a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been he's been in a couple of
Speaker 1: places the last few years. Just signed a deal with
Speaker 1: with with the Los Angeles Rams. Mister Davonte Adams, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna do wonders down there. Him and Pooping
Speaker 1: to it are gonna are gonna take pair up shop
Speaker 1: and and and uh you know, uh keep the back
Speaker 1: end of Matt Stafford's career, Uh prosperous.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that that offensive line keeps him up right.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think that's a that's a
Speaker 1: scary duo down there in l A. I like Davonta Adams,
Speaker 1: I like Pooping into it. I think Pooka can can
Speaker 1: play anywhere, run anywhere. He hurts you in so many
Speaker 1: different ways. But Davontae Adams.
Speaker 2: Is is is a supreme athlete.
Speaker 1: He's another one of these guys that can just play
Speaker 1: you all over the field.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting to see how he plays
Speaker 2: in the Sean McVay system. So I'm interested to see that, obviously.
Speaker 1: As an Eagles fan, terrified terrified of that because you know,
Speaker 1: you can slow down a Cooper a couple of times,
Speaker 1: you can, you can you can scheme away and Pooking
Speaker 1: the two at a time.
Speaker 2: Davonte Alla can catch any type of ball. Man.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, listen, I'm you know, I like your
Speaker 4: number seven with that, but I'm gonna go with this team. Man,
Speaker 4: I got I got Pooka at number seven for everything
Speaker 4: you just said, I mean, whok is the reason why
Speaker 4: Cooper Cupp is out of town.
Speaker 3: Hooker is a guy.
Speaker 4: That sizy kme may only been in the league two years,
Speaker 4: will catch everything. I mean, not a burner, right, not
Speaker 4: a burner, but no, just just know how to get
Speaker 4: up when you need a big play, whether that's going
Speaker 4: down the scene, running it, you know, running and running
Speaker 4: in between the numbers, in between the hash. Pooka has
Speaker 4: jailed extremely well and that Sean McVay system, and he
Speaker 4: and Matthew Stafford loves him. My number seven, Pooking the
Speaker 4: coop of everything I said, everything you said, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Now as we're as we're getting into it, number eight,
Speaker 1: I'm coming back to Philadelphia. Slim Reaper. He is the
Speaker 1: best number two in football. If AJ Brown wasn't there,
Speaker 1: he would absolutely be number one. His tape, his catches
Speaker 1: are ridiculous, one handers, over the over the top, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, toe tapping on the sideline. He ain't scared
Speaker 1: to go over over the middle and catch heat. And
Speaker 1: he's on he's barely one hundred and eighty pounds soaking wet.
Speaker 2: So I mean he's got the heart of a lion.
Speaker 1: He's got, he's got the re you know, he's won
Speaker 1: at every level.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you.
Speaker 1: Don't see him on more of these lists, but that's
Speaker 1: always subjective. Obviously, thirty two teams, a lot of guys
Speaker 1: got got got some really good, good wide receivers on there.
Speaker 1: You could say I'm biased. All you want, look at
Speaker 1: the man's tape and then come back and tell me
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: My number eight is de Vonte Smith.
Speaker 4: My number eight is a Vonte Smith as well. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think he already got over four thousand yards in
Speaker 4: his career, like almost thirty tendowns over three catches. Devonda Smith.
Speaker 4: I mean he's the best number two you're gonna see.
Speaker 4: Every time you need to play, you think you better
Speaker 4: take away the aja you ain't been taking away De
Speaker 4: Varonna Smith. He gonna tell your other court, he gonna
Speaker 4: tell your sacred cornerback up, he gonna tell your slot
Speaker 4: cornerback up and the safety is all they could do
Speaker 4: is hope they can. Look, man, you play safety, boy,
Speaker 4: reason you play safety, because you're good play court. Devonda
Speaker 4: Smith high trophy, win, a super Bowl champion. But on Sundays, man,
Speaker 4: he's a different monster. People said to the dude and
Speaker 4: his size dominated in the NFL. The answer is yes, yes,
Speaker 4: and yes. Divonda Smith my number eight receiver in the league.
Speaker 1: And my number nine was your one before mister Poopa Natua.
Speaker 1: You know he ran Cooper Cup out of town. He
Speaker 1: sent him to send him to Seattle Man. So I
Speaker 1: mean he plays hurt. He runs the round three amazing,
Speaker 1: you know. And Sean McVeigh got an actual gym when
Speaker 1: they picked him up out of the draft. What he's
Speaker 1: done in his two years in the league, you can't,
Speaker 1: you can't. He can't shy away from that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: If he was in the league a little bit longer,
Speaker 1: maybe you might see him a little bit higher on
Speaker 1: the list.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, my number nine is pooka. Who
Speaker 2: do you who do you got a nine? Brother?
Speaker 4: My number nine is scared Terry and boy, scary Arry
Speaker 4: coming now I mean with you, I mean and listen,
Speaker 4: Jayda Daniel said, I need the number one.
Speaker 3: They said, you got Scared Terry mlaar.
Speaker 4: I mean I got a Listen another another guy coming
Speaker 4: out Ohio State, even though he've been in the league
Speaker 4: a little longer. Now, I just like the way Scared
Speaker 4: Terry plays football. Listen, he plays, he plays me, he
Speaker 4: plays nasty. But the guy just knows how to go
Speaker 4: out there and get it done. Love Scared Terry's game,
Speaker 4: he's out, he's looking for a new contract. I think
Speaker 4: he's gonna get it, and I think, uh, I think
Speaker 4: Jada Day is gonna help get it.
Speaker 3: My number nine receive was Scary Terry mcglow.
Speaker 1: And my number ten I'm going I'm going oddly on
Speaker 1: here now. I think you don't get enough love.
Speaker 2: Mister d J.
Speaker 1: Moore Dan down there in Chicago. You know it was
Speaker 1: a number one over all picking in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I think him and h him and him and uh,
Speaker 1: mister Caleb Williams, the are gonna have a big season.
Speaker 1: They got they got a good offensive line now now, uh,
Speaker 1: you know he you know he's been on you know
Speaker 1: they had a crazy wide receiver room last year. You
Speaker 1: know with Keenan Allen and all all them. I like
Speaker 1: the production we're seeing out him. I like, I like
Speaker 1: how how he plays the game. Well, we'll see see
Speaker 1: if he proves me right. I think he is a
Speaker 1: top ten receiver in the league right now. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, you know, having multiple different quarterbacks over
Speaker 1: the over the last few years hasn't been a good,
Speaker 1: good recipe.
Speaker 2: But we'll see how it all plays that for him.
Speaker 2: I like DJ Bore.
Speaker 3: My number ten is the guy that.
Speaker 4: You know, He's a guy that to me, he's been
Speaker 4: being very productive, you know for a team that nobody's
Speaker 4: to do a whole lot, but they ahead a schedule.
Speaker 4: My number ten is Nico College. Like way Nico plays
Speaker 4: for them, Houston Texas man, Like I know that Tank
Speaker 4: is a guy that plays well for but he can't
Speaker 4: stay healthy. Stefan Diggins had a cup of corpet with him.
Speaker 4: He got hurt. I like the way Nico Collage plays,
Speaker 4: but Houston man, he is the go to guy when
Speaker 4: you need it. But if you to Texas a him
Speaker 4: and that CJ. Strod got something going, big receiver. That
Speaker 4: boy is from that boy from Alabama and Winne, Michigan.
Speaker 4: That's a long way from home. But yeah, man, it
Speaker 4: really really been done to give me Miico Collins my
Speaker 4: top riding out, my number ten riding out the top ten,
Speaker 4: or my top ten receivers in the league.
Speaker 2: Nico, Brandon Ayuk, Mike Evans, and Cedee Lamb are kind
Speaker 2: of like my my tweeters in that area. But listen,
Speaker 2: I think DJ ain't getting the love I do. Like Nico,
Speaker 2: I think I think he's not getting his love there.
Speaker 2: He was behind Stefan Diggs for the last few years.
Speaker 1: Stephan's now down there in New England, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if his star really shines this year with c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud. Don't mind the Nico pick with all that.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I just gave you my honorable mentions
Speaker 1: there that that were my tweeners that that you know
Speaker 1: you could have swapped out for DJ. You know, Mike
Speaker 1: Evans has been doing this thing a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's a special receiver. Brandon Ayu don't get the
Speaker 1: love that that that he should. Everyone's talking talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, the contract, the injury he's got brock Purty there.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna we're gonna see if if that duo
Speaker 1: was real really meant to be what we what it
Speaker 1: is now that debo is it is is.
Speaker 2: A Washington commander. So there's a lot of variables with
Speaker 2: some of these other guys.
Speaker 1: And we'll see how the season plays out and and
Speaker 1: see if we still feel the same way about about
Speaker 1: this guy and these guys in this list as we
Speaker 1: uh as we get uh get to the end of
Speaker 1: the end of the twenty twenty five season. But I
Speaker 1: think uh, I think, you know, for the most part,
Speaker 1: we we we were all kind of agreement, agreement with
Speaker 1: the good oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Jr. Elite nighbors on my honorable mentions. I
Speaker 4: know they was rookies last year, but they coming. But
Speaker 4: Ryan Thomas Jr. Being the better of the two, even
Speaker 4: though my elite nables is nasty up there with the
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 2: The better talent, but he's on the worst team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can agree with that. But hey man,
Speaker 4: we'll see. You know, I like the I like the listen.
Speaker 4: I'm always uh, I'm always showing love, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, you tell my Davonte Adams Mike Evans now
Speaker 4: the two old best still still finding a way to
Speaker 4: get it done. I know, Cooper Cup is gonna prove
Speaker 4: to the world. Man, I'm still in the National the
Speaker 4: Football League, and I'm gonna try to go and prove
Speaker 4: myself again. Uh but yeah, I mean I'm looking. But
Speaker 4: and this is my homer pick. I mean, I know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I know that people don't like it. But
Speaker 4: Drake London in the top fifteen. Yeah, man, top fifteen
Speaker 4: receiving in my foot thirteen hundred yards last year, you know,
Speaker 4: and it had Kirk Cousins throwing in the bout Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, like, yeah, I think we touched
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2: Uh. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the one of the last ones I'm going
Speaker 1: to do is is a topic that that the team typically.
Speaker 2: Runs here on there is uh what's going on in
Speaker 2: your town? Brother? How are you feeling about about about
Speaker 2: what's going on in Atlanta these days?
Speaker 1: Whether it's uh, you know, Braves, Falcons, you know the Hawks?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the things going on in
Speaker 1: Atlanta right now?
Speaker 3: Love the fact that the All Star Game is approaching.
Speaker 4: You know, as you mentioned, Ronald con Junior gonna be
Speaker 4: and now he's gonna be in the home run derby.
Speaker 4: But the fact that you're gonna have all the biggest
Speaker 4: stars in the MLB right there at Truest Parking Battery,
Speaker 4: you know, at Battery Park, Truittville. Uh, if you haven't heard, my, my, my,
Speaker 4: howks did trade for Porzingis? Porzingis is a hawk now,
Speaker 4: whether he like it or not, he's a hawk. Uh
Speaker 4: in my Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, no news is good news. I mean
Speaker 4: the fact that Darren Waller got came out of retirement,
Speaker 4: went to the Dolphins and meant that Kyle pissed to
Speaker 4: not get traded, uh to the Dolphins. And you know,
Speaker 4: we're training camp rapidly approaching one. See what these two
Speaker 4: first round first round defense being pass rush is gonna
Speaker 4: look like coming in coming, in coming into training camp.
Speaker 4: But yeah, all think it's good up in the ATM man,
Speaker 4: just dealing with the heat, dealing with the traffic, dealing
Speaker 4: with the nine drivers. But I will I will take it.
Speaker 4: I will take it.
Speaker 2: I will take Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, my my phillies are at the top of
Speaker 1: the NL East right now, so I don't got any
Speaker 1: get points there.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 1: I do feel that if they make me and me
Speaker 1: and Pat Pat Combs were talking about it as earlier
Speaker 1: this week. If they make it through July, they're either
Speaker 1: still at the top of the of the NL East
Speaker 1: and or within a few games, I think it's theirs
Speaker 1: for the taking. Uh me and you both talk about this.
Speaker 1: We we already know what's gonna happen down to Strep.
Speaker 1: The Met's gonna met right now. Obviously last year the
Speaker 1: Phillies fell to the Mets in the playoffs and batsman
Speaker 1: cool things of that nature. I do think, uh, we
Speaker 1: have the best pitching staff, starting pitching staff in baseball.
Speaker 1: I think if they're able to to to add you know,
Speaker 1: you know, a bat in the outfield, whether it be
Speaker 1: you know, you know, center, left, right, whatever, I would
Speaker 1: not like.
Speaker 2: I would not like to see Nick Castiano's move.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, you know, maybe doesn't have
Speaker 1: the greatest bat, maybe not the fastest guy or the
Speaker 1: best glove, but I think what he ASTs the clubhouse
Speaker 1: Otherwise I.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't want to see him move center field is the
Speaker 2: way to go.
Speaker 1: I think there's guys available for the Phillies to be
Speaker 1: able to do that when the when the trade deadline hits,
Speaker 1: us in a within the few weeks.
Speaker 2: I think they will be busy. I think they will.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be surprised to see somebody like a Sir
Speaker 1: Anthony Dominguez brought back via trade, as long as they
Speaker 1: don't trade away any of their big prospects. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see. I don't want to see Painter traded.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Aiden Miller traded. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see mcabel traded. I do think, I do
Speaker 1: think there is an outfielder prospect, and I think Rangers
Speaker 1: Suarez would or take Taywan Walker would probably be one
Speaker 1: of the odd men outs via via trade.
Speaker 2: But that's just my general thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: I do feel the Phillies it's it's a make or
Speaker 1: break here. I already said it here on this network.
Speaker 1: Man Rob Thomas needs a needs the world title already's done.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a make or break here for him.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff going on. Obviously we'd already
Speaker 1: talked about it. The Philadelphia is gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the expansion teams that gets a w n B.
Speaker 2: A team that that's another another big thing.
Speaker 1: No no news from the Eagles, which isn't surprising, flying
Speaker 1: under the radar.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're gonna. I think they're gonna do their thing
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll see, you know, injury, super Bowl, hangover whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that that word is going
Speaker 1: to be in there cabulary, just because of how the
Speaker 1: culture of that team is. We we we've beaten that
Speaker 1: drum so so much over the past few months, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna ring true. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone's seen uh uh, some of the media eclips that
Speaker 1: came out the you know, the comments that came out
Speaker 1: of Nick Sirianni's mouth about, you know, being a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion.
Speaker 2: It was basically like it's like a it's.
Speaker 1: Like a perfume, you know, you know, sniff it, don't
Speaker 1: drink it. It's poisonous, you know. Keep that keep that
Speaker 1: that sharp mindset. So it's they have what they need.
Speaker 1: It's up to them, you know, to execute, to continue
Speaker 1: to improve and and stay stay stay a team, Stay
Speaker 1: stay the team that that you were at the end
Speaker 1: of the last season, and I think that that will
Speaker 1: continue to roll over.
Speaker 2: Obviously, it's gonna be much much harder schedule.
Speaker 1: They gotta they got a nasty schedule manly that there's
Speaker 1: you know, not not a single back to back home game,
Speaker 1: so that there's things they have to overcome. But you know,
Speaker 1: you want to be tested like that. If you're the
Speaker 1: world champion, you don't you don't want the easy road.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't want the roade less travel. You
Speaker 1: you you.
Speaker 2: You want to be you want to have have those
Speaker 2: obstacles in front of you.
Speaker 1: And I think that that they're going to be ready
Speaker 1: for that when this season comes. We'll see if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: if I'm right. Obviously they still have to play the games.
Speaker 1: You still have to get through it injury free, regardless,
Speaker 1: if we're talking training camp, preseason, regular season, postseason, whatever.
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a fun time to be
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia fan regardless.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously, you know a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of things are changing with the hockey team too. You know,
Speaker 1: you got Rick Takin being brown back and as a
Speaker 1: as a head coach. They just they just you know,
Speaker 1: had another good draft. The only real question is is
Speaker 1: goaltender now? The taboo subject is is you know former
Speaker 1: goalie technically still under contract with the Flyers as Corey
Speaker 1: hard Is was uh was was a part of that
Speaker 1: that uh sexual abuse scandal from when he was in
Speaker 1: college that it was just you know, all charges were dismissed.
Speaker 2: He's free and clear now. So I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's a road the Flyers want to go down.
Speaker 1: Daniel Brier wants to wants to kick tires on that
Speaker 1: and see what's happened. I know they just signed a
Speaker 1: free agent goaltender. Goaltenders that you know, the goal. The
Speaker 1: goal is the backbone of your team, just like you
Speaker 1: know the center center is in football, just like the
Speaker 1: defensive defensive tackle is on your defense.
Speaker 2: So we'll see how how everything shakes out.
Speaker 1: I think at some point in time in the next
Speaker 1: few years Flyers are going to be a good playoff team.
Speaker 2: We'll see how it all plays out.
Speaker 1: But that's all on what's going on in my town
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, uh, you know, fun stuff that
Speaker 1: we're going over. Anything else you want to touch on
Speaker 1: before we we we enjoy the rest of.
Speaker 2: Our evenings, my friend.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, man, pleasure being on with you tonight. Like
Speaker 4: I say, they still they still you can't hear it,
Speaker 4: but they are still trying to outdo each other with
Speaker 4: these fireworks. I'm gonna do my best to be able
Speaker 4: to get some rest at night, or I'm gonna have
Speaker 4: to go over there and then put on put on
Speaker 4: the police outfit. I ain't got no sirruns on my coming. Whooo,
Speaker 4: all right, we get it, Go to bed, Go to bed.
Speaker 1: Uh it's only eleven thirty now, so I would have
Speaker 1: to say that they're still doing this, you know, an
Speaker 1: hour and a half, two hours from there.
Speaker 2: I give you full permission.
Speaker 1: To uh to to put put boots and asses and
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do that to kind of get
Speaker 1: things the way you need to get to my friend.
Speaker 1: Other than that, you know, another fun one in the books,
Speaker 1: you know here here for fire Up tonight. It was
Speaker 1: a good one fourth of July edition. You know, we
Speaker 1: had it looks like like you know, you know, sixty
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Speaker 2: And we're gonna continue to have fun here.
Speaker 1: Scott and Canny to be back starting Monday, and we
Speaker 1: get to have some more fun with our team back
Speaker 1: as being whole. Other than that, I'm Steve. He's been
Speaker 1: another episode of Fired Up. We'll see you guys next week. Guys,
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