Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something prowling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. Jesus, Quice,
Speaker 1: you better New York. Hello, get somebody out here. Quinn
Speaker 1: on out there. I thought of a bit just about
Speaker 1: tick nine. I don't know easy out there. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: right head.
Speaker 2: Oh greetings, thanks for joining me. What I wanted to
Speaker 2: share with you today comes from Joseph and Monty. It's
Speaker 2: been about twenty five years since this incident occurred. I
Speaker 2: got warn you those who are sensitive to animals being
Speaker 2: injured in anyway, I would suggest that you just enjoy
Speaker 2: that intruance. Stop it here Joseph and Monty. They were
Speaker 2: doing a favor for one of their family members.
Speaker 3: The family still has a cabin.
Speaker 2: I was asked not to share the exact location, but
Speaker 2: we'll say it's in the Yukon cusc Quem Delta. That's
Speaker 2: a vast area. I don't want to burn anyone up
Speaker 2: or anything like that. What they were doing was basically,
Speaker 2: this was an old trapping cabin. It was used sometimes
Speaker 2: for fishing, but it was a little further away from
Speaker 2: this particular river. The salmon returns weren't what they used
Speaker 2: to be. It was in disrepair and they needed a
Speaker 2: new root. Joseph and Monty decided they heard talk one
Speaker 2: of their uncles was going to do it and got
Speaker 2: a bunch of supplies out there, and just for whatever
Speaker 2: reason they didn't know, he just stopped working on it
Speaker 2: and left. So they're just like, okay, without any context
Speaker 2: to why their uncle quit. Joseph and Monty decided that
Speaker 2: it was pretty late in fall. All their other stuff
Speaker 2: was done and they had a good three solid weeks
Speaker 2: to get everything just tip top and back in working
Speaker 2: order so people can make use of it. This cabin,
Speaker 2: because from what they were saying, it was a nice
Speaker 2: little spot. It was tuck back away from the river.
Speaker 2: It was in this meadow like area.
Speaker 3: It was just nice. It was a real beautiful spot
Speaker 3: to be. They get out there, they had to take
Speaker 3: a skiff.
Speaker 2: Up the river, and when they got there, their uncle
Speaker 2: had transported an old three wheeler up there. Three wheeler
Speaker 2: was operational. They got there and it was an old
Speaker 2: Honda two hundred. They fired that up and it was running.
Speaker 2: Us a three wheeler to take what supplies they had
Speaker 2: back over to the cabin first, they of course armed.
Speaker 2: They take stuff over, and they had three dogs with them.
Speaker 2: These were retired sled dogs. They were not old, but
Speaker 2: they were older dogs, been around the village for a
Speaker 2: long time whatever. So they took the three dogs. The
Speaker 2: dogs just followed them, doing their thing. One of them
Speaker 2: ran ahead of them, and two were just trailing behind,
Speaker 2: looking around, smelling stuff whatever. They get up to the
Speaker 2: cab and they noticed that the front part there was
Speaker 2: a new basically gable end on the front that their
Speaker 2: uncle had started on the roof was nowhere near complete.
Speaker 3: The ridge line was halfway.
Speaker 2: But again, it had been a while since the uncle
Speaker 2: had been there, and things weren't quare and true, and
Speaker 2: so they get there, they're looking around, and they weren't
Speaker 2: checking the area around them as much because it's pretty
Speaker 2: wide open, a lot of tundra and small brush willows
Speaker 2: and stuff. They weren't overly concerned because the dogs weren't
Speaker 2: making any kind of like serious racket or anything, and
Speaker 2: their dogs weren't doing anything squirrely, so they were just
Speaker 2: focusing on what they're seeing. They go inside, it was
Speaker 2: just pretty saturated in there, and so they were like,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to the cleaning of the inside without
Speaker 2: a roof on it.
Speaker 3: So they decided, we'll just set up our canvas tent.
Speaker 2: We will work out of the tent and get the
Speaker 2: roof on, then we'll worry about the inside. For the
Speaker 2: first four or five days, it was from daylight to
Speaker 2: damn near sundown that they were plugging away. They got
Speaker 2: the new roof on in that time. They laid out
Speaker 2: the asphalt paper and everything they're doing. They were trying
Speaker 2: to figure out a place, and we're going to go
Speaker 2: and cut tundra, big squares of tundra and just put
Speaker 2: the tundra up on top of there, on top of
Speaker 2: the asphalt paper and stuff. Because they had already heavy
Speaker 2: duty VisQueen and the asphalt paper across the trusses they built.
Speaker 2: It was coming along because basically it was dried in,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't the full roof wasn't complete because they
Speaker 2: were going to use the tundra. They had the full
Speaker 2: roof on there, and so they were doing some of
Speaker 2: the repairs inside, trying to get all the mucket out
Speaker 2: and just get things in order because again it was
Speaker 2: in disrepair, damn near dilapidated. They were just doing all
Speaker 2: the I wouldn't say minor because he said it's pretty involved.
Speaker 2: But Joseph and Monty, those three dogs, they alerted it
Speaker 2: on a porcupine, so they knew the dogs were doing
Speaker 2: their things. So they were relaxed per se because they
Speaker 2: had loaded weapons ready. They had thirty out six and
Speaker 2: at three hundred wind meg. They kept them lean up
Speaker 2: against the wall wherever they went. If they went outside,
Speaker 2: they grabbed the rifle, came out with it, had it
Speaker 2: right nearby, and again they were counting on these dogs
Speaker 2: early alarm system, early warning. So they're doing some work
Speaker 2: on the outside and all of a sudden they're focused
Speaker 2: on the work and realize that they're tripping over the dogs.
Speaker 2: They're like, come on, move because typically they only got
Speaker 2: under their feet when it was time to eat. Joseph,
Speaker 2: he looked at his watches, it's what the hell, and
Speaker 2: he started paying attention to the dog's demeanor, and all
Speaker 2: three of them were like piddling themselves and just they
Speaker 2: were honkered down as close to the cabin in them
Speaker 2: as possible. So him and Manty see the same thing
Speaker 2: at the same time, and they start looking around. They
Speaker 2: couldn't see anything outright, but it was not intangible to
Speaker 2: see why are these dogs acting like because they never
Speaker 2: act like that, even with the bear. So Joseph grabbed
Speaker 2: a rifle and Monty automatically grabbed his rifle too, And
Speaker 2: Monty had a forty four magnum on his hip. From
Speaker 2: what Joseph said, he had a three point fifty seven
Speaker 2: on his hip. So he goes and stands on top
Speaker 2: of the three wheeler to get a little heighth and
Speaker 2: get a better view. And they had a ladder on
Speaker 2: the back side of the cabin because they were on
Speaker 2: the sidewall and the backside was just around the corner.
Speaker 2: So Manty went up the ladder and got a little
Speaker 2: higher view and was looking around, wasn't seeing anything. Monty's rifle.
Speaker 2: He had a scope that was a three hundred win
Speaker 2: mag had it. I think it was a three by
Speaker 2: nine or nine x twelve something like that scope. He's
Speaker 2: just scoping area, just getting a better view. Joseph had
Speaker 2: at thirty out six with the open sites, they weren't
Speaker 2: seeing anything when they were looking around. They went the
Speaker 2: other direction, looking around everywhere at three sixty and they're
Speaker 2: not seeing anything, and by this time the dogs were gone.
Speaker 3: They're like, what the hell?
Speaker 2: So they went looking for the dogs and they had
Speaker 2: scurried inside the cabin. Two went in the cabin, one
Speaker 2: went in the wall tent, the canvas tent, and they're
Speaker 2: trying to figure what the hell because there was nothing tangible,
Speaker 2: There was no odors, nothing to go by.
Speaker 3: So they're like, this is weird.
Speaker 2: It was so weird that they stopped all work for
Speaker 2: two days try to figure out why these dogs would
Speaker 2: not stop cowering and acting weird. They were so creeped
Speaker 2: out that they decided to move camp into the cabin.
Speaker 2: And what they did is for temporary purposes because the
Speaker 2: woodstove in there needed a new stove pipe to go
Speaker 2: up through the ceiling that they had the roof that
Speaker 2: they had not completed yet, so they took the woodstove
Speaker 2: from the wall tent a little small portable one, brought
Speaker 2: it in there and just made a homemade makeshift hole
Speaker 2: through the plastic so they can have heat. Now, this
Speaker 2: is an incomplete roof. It's not fully structural any means yet.
Speaker 2: Because they had to put on some more pruins across
Speaker 2: and some other stuff before they did the tundra whatever
Speaker 2: style they were using it working carpentry. Some of the
Speaker 2: stuff sounded backwards, but again everyone does their own thing.
Speaker 2: They get all stuff situated in this cabin because it's
Speaker 2: a little more better walls and stuff, and it was
Speaker 2: getting on in the dark. The one thing about the
Speaker 2: cabin door that needed to be fixed was the door.
Speaker 2: It just warped over time and the weather and all that,
Speaker 2: so it wasn't fully shutting. It would shut, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't fully sealed, so it was one of the things
Speaker 2: I had to redo. But at least it shut. It
Speaker 2: just was warped a little bit, so it was no
Speaker 2: big deal. They had the little woodstoves kept it warming there.
Speaker 2: That night when they went to sleep. They ended up
Speaker 2: hearing way off in the distance this horrendous scream. They
Speaker 2: could tell it was a long distance away. He was
Speaker 2: guessing miles away, but it was loud, loud enough it
Speaker 2: was like startled them enough where they grabbed guns. And
Speaker 2: they were standing there, and this happened just as they
Speaker 2: were getting ready to go to bed, so they still
Speaker 2: had the lantern on. So what they did was they
Speaker 2: got their flashlights near by them, put some stuff in
Speaker 2: front of the door, just as an early warning system
Speaker 2: or whatever, because the dogs weren't making any freaking noise
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: None.
Speaker 2: And he said, that's unusual because these retired sled dogs
Speaker 2: they were always usually yapping at each other and just
Speaker 2: being squirrely dogs. It was concerning, say least. So they
Speaker 2: stacked a bunch of stuff up against by the door.
Speaker 2: They stayed back by the back corner from there was
Speaker 2: basically nothing inside at this point except the woodstove, okay,
Speaker 2: some of their tools to keep out of the weather
Speaker 2: and stuff, and a few of the building supplies that
Speaker 2: were left over, some two by four and some other stuff.
Speaker 3: But that was all stacked away neatly.
Speaker 2: So when you go in the door, he said, the
Speaker 2: wood stove would have been to the far back corner
Speaker 2: to the right, and they set up right in the
Speaker 2: back corner to the left, and they basically sat up
Speaker 2: leaning against the walls. He said he woke up after
Speaker 2: SI and there for so long he just dozed off
Speaker 2: from just being exhausted days of work and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: He said he was woken up by it sounded like
Speaker 2: a shudder of like banging wood, like something was trying
Speaker 2: to come in the door. So immediately he opened his eyes,
Speaker 2: turned on the flashlight and didn't see anything. By then,
Speaker 2: Monty's standing, Joseph still sitting on the ground as they're
Speaker 2: focused on the door. Right behind Joseph's head, there was
Speaker 2: just a horrendous boom, and he felt it in his
Speaker 2: back because he wasn't leaning his head back against Walt,
Speaker 2: just his back of the shoulders. It startled him, he said,
Speaker 2: it startled him so bad. He leaped so quickly, and
Speaker 2: it happened so fast. He was damn near had his
Speaker 2: back to the door at that point, pointing his rifle
Speaker 2: back and Manty had just turned around a couple of
Speaker 2: steps and was pointing in that direction, and the stump
Speaker 2: would randomly every so often bang on the outside of
Speaker 2: his place. They don't know what to do. They don't
Speaker 2: want to shoot. They don't have any target at this point,
Speaker 2: but they're concerned. Is this roof isn't complete and whatever's
Speaker 2: banging that hard could potentially come through the roof. They're
Speaker 2: looking all over. They felt unsafe. So as that's going on,
Speaker 2: the adrenaline is pumping.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: It was about seven to ten minutes roughly of the
Speaker 2: random banging, but it was continuous, but it was random.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like every second there's a bang here and
Speaker 2: a bang there and nothing like that. But there'd be
Speaker 2: a bang over this side, then a bang over here.
Speaker 2: And he got the feeling like they're being distracted from something.
Speaker 2: So he whispered to Monty, keeping on the door, and
Speaker 2: I'll pay attention to the sounds.
Speaker 3: So Monty got off.
Speaker 2: He was facing the door and this offset to the
Speaker 2: left had the rifle ready about just enough distance back
Speaker 2: to where he had time to react. This cabin, from
Speaker 2: what he said, was about fourteen feet sixteen feet wide
Speaker 2: by maybe twenty twenty four roughly. The walls from what
Speaker 2: he said were roughly seven foot where they topped off,
Speaker 2: they were eight.
Speaker 3: Foot originally, he said, settling over the years.
Speaker 2: Ever, so as Manty's facing the door, Joseph is just
Speaker 2: following the sounds around when they would happen. He said,
Speaker 2: After about sevent ten minutes of regularly banging, all that
Speaker 2: noise stopped.
Speaker 3: And then they were hearing this weird noise.
Speaker 2: They heard something messing with the tar, paper and the
Speaker 2: plastic at one corner, which was just offset from the
Speaker 2: door where Monty was stacking, so he pointed his rifle
Speaker 2: up that way.
Speaker 3: Now it wasn't light.
Speaker 2: It was dark out and they were trying to minimize
Speaker 2: use of light, so they weren't marking where they were
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: They didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2: They didn't know if it was some weirdo in the
Speaker 2: wood's going to kill him or anything. Now they've heard
Speaker 2: of the hairy Man, but it was always in stories
Speaker 2: about old days and stuff like that, so it wasn't
Speaker 2: really something they thought it was a concern. So we
Speaker 2: when hearing this noise from the asphalt, paper and stuff,
Speaker 2: they heard one of the perlins being pried up from
Speaker 2: the roof.
Speaker 3: Right. It was being pushed with so much force.
Speaker 2: At that front gable an they could hear the nails
Speaker 2: creaking and starting to pull out.
Speaker 3: So Manty shoots through the corner, just up and.
Speaker 2: Out, not through the wall, but up through to where
Speaker 2: he could shoot out the plastic and asphalt paper. Instantly,
Speaker 2: their ears are just mean ringing hard, and he goes quiet.
Speaker 2: Joseph was startled to shit because he wasn't expecting Manty
Speaker 2: to shoot, but what else was he going to do.
Speaker 2: He wasn't mad at him, he was just startled from it.
Speaker 2: So they're walking in the circle, back to back, and
Speaker 2: again the dogs are just quiet.
Speaker 3: Down off to the sides, out of the way. They
Speaker 3: hear this noise.
Speaker 2: It sounds like the suspension of the three wheeler, and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh shit, And all of a sudden it
Speaker 2: gets real, real quiet, and again their ears are ringing,
Speaker 2: so some of the noises are obscured and they can't
Speaker 2: fully make it out. But there's activity happening. They hear
Speaker 2: the collapse of that canvas tent. It sounds like it's
Speaker 2: something's being drug off, so they're assuming it got knocked
Speaker 2: down and something's dragging it away. It's dark. They don't
Speaker 2: know what they're dealing with. They didn't want to run
Speaker 2: out there, and so it was quiet again. They hear
Speaker 2: the suspension of that old three wheeler again. It was
Speaker 2: like a creaking old suspension, like someone was bouncing on
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it goes quiet again for a brief moment, and then bam.
Speaker 2: So the three wheeler was thrown onto the outside just
Speaker 2: where the new trusses were on top of the wall.
Speaker 3: It banged up in there.
Speaker 2: It was thrown with such force that the front tier
Speaker 2: of the three wheeler was hooked over the wall.
Speaker 3: In between two of the trusses.
Speaker 2: So now they're really freaked out because a human ain't
Speaker 2: gonna throw that, and bears don't have thumbs to grip
Speaker 2: it and throw it like that. It was getting hectic.
Speaker 2: The dogs at this point started just squallering. They weren't
Speaker 2: howling or growling. It was like they were getting beat.
Speaker 2: They could barely hear themselves talk because the dogs were
Speaker 2: losing it as they were talking. They had a small
Speaker 2: generator a gent set that they were using for their
Speaker 2: skill sew when they were cutting everything, and it was
Speaker 2: in a wall tent they was stored out there because
Speaker 2: it had a small gas leak or whatever. And they
Speaker 2: didn't want it inside the cabin breathing the fumes and whatnot.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, that thing is thrown out the
Speaker 2: front door, and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And it destroyed half of the front door. If they
Speaker 2: hadn't piled that stuff up, the little generator would have
Speaker 2: been right in the middle of the floor. But it
Speaker 2: hit with such force that it stayed outside because of
Speaker 2: the stuff they had piled up against the door. But
Speaker 2: it broke the door in half, and the top half
Speaker 2: just didn't fully fall away, but it was exposing outside
Speaker 2: pitch black out there. So now they're like shit. So
Speaker 2: now they got the flashlights looking out the hole. They
Speaker 2: don't know what they're gonna basically do as they're trying
Speaker 2: to decide, because it's chaotic, what are we going to do?
Speaker 3: What are we going to do?
Speaker 2: This is an old style cabin, so it's not a
Speaker 2: tall door. It was like maybe five and a half
Speaker 2: six foot. You got to duck down to go in
Speaker 2: and out right, So as they're discussing what to do,
Speaker 2: the dogs are still squally like loud. They're trying to
Speaker 2: shut them up, back them up by the wood stove,
Speaker 2: keep them back, and all their ties they had for him.
Speaker 2: They had little runners and stuff for him, but it
Speaker 2: was attached to the wall tent, and they don't know
Speaker 2: where the how that is.
Speaker 3: It's in the freaking dark.
Speaker 2: So he said, when you go out the front door,
Speaker 2: there's a pretty wide path grass and tundra and stuff
Speaker 2: that leads back down towards the river.
Speaker 3: But then there you got a tree line you gotta
Speaker 3: go through.
Speaker 2: Then roughly not quite one hundred yards of tree line
Speaker 2: and black spruce and stuff. Then you get to the
Speaker 2: near the river bank, and then you go down a
Speaker 2: little ways and that's where their skiff was. So he's
Speaker 2: sitting there trying to figure out what are we going
Speaker 2: to do because obviously something is pissed off and actively
Speaker 2: attacking the cabin. So as they're sitting there trying to
Speaker 2: figure out how to keep the dogs from yammering and
Speaker 2: all this other shit, one of the dogs takes off
Speaker 2: and basically climbs the pile of stuff on this side
Speaker 2: that leaps out the broken door and takes off into
Speaker 2: the dark. Within seconds, he said, it was like everything
Speaker 2: was happening, so quick. He didn't go one with thousand
Speaker 2: and two, nothing like that, but he said it was
Speaker 2: within seconds they heard that dog done ended, They're like shit.
Speaker 2: The other two dogs they stopped squalling. They just hunkered
Speaker 2: down and were just basically terrified as low to the
Speaker 2: ground as they could get. So Manty decides, boom, He
Speaker 2: just shoots another shot, just out into the dark, just
Speaker 2: to let him know we're gonna shoot. Joseph came up
Speaker 2: beside him. He shot around out the door. They both
Speaker 2: had chambered another round as they chambered the other round,
Speaker 2: and then they backed up away from the door and
Speaker 2: then offset from it because they didn't want to be
Speaker 2: in direct sight of the open doorway because they're a
Speaker 2: little closer to it. Joseph said, as they were whispering
Speaker 2: to each other, what are we going to do?
Speaker 3: What do we do with this?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it threw the dog back in through the door,
Speaker 2: and then the dog was not recognizable as a dog.
Speaker 2: It was just a furry, bloody, pulpy mess. So now
Speaker 2: looking at that kind of even shot like holy shit.
Speaker 2: So they back up more and then they go back
Speaker 2: into the corner where they were because they have nowhere
Speaker 2: to go. The freaking three wheelers hanging off by his
Speaker 2: front tire on the side of the freaking cabin doors,
Speaker 2: busted dogs dead. So they basically just squatted down and
Speaker 2: were just sitting there, just waiting for something else to happen.
Speaker 2: He said, he's not sure how much time it passed,
Speaker 2: but it was between fifteen twenty minutes roughly, and again
Speaker 2: chaotic mind and terrorized.
Speaker 3: It could be a.
Speaker 2: Little off, a little warped, but he said as they
Speaker 2: were sitting there being quiet, Manty was not turning the
Speaker 2: flashlight off from staring out the hole in the door
Speaker 2: because that was the last active area of shit going on.
Speaker 2: They started hearing this weird. He tried to imitate it,
Speaker 2: but it was a half call, like oh ah, like that,
Speaker 2: just over and over. It started and it was moving around.
Speaker 2: And what's scared dam is the walls were roughly seven
Speaker 2: foot They could hear it above. It wasn't coming through
Speaker 2: the wall, it was coming through the roof. This noise
Speaker 2: as this thne moved around. So when it started, it
Speaker 2: was just off side of the door. They're facing the door.
Speaker 2: It was just off to the right where it started
Speaker 2: and came around, went all the way around and they decided,
Speaker 2: they're whispering to each other when that noise comes to
Speaker 2: the front, we're going to shoot through that hole in
Speaker 2: the door as it come around. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it went quiet, and then it went dead quiet nothing.
Speaker 2: They had three different flashlights, right. The problem is all
Speaker 2: their spare batteries and shit was in that other canvas tent,
Speaker 2: so they were conserving battery power, so they'd switched between flashlights.
Speaker 2: After a few minutes, Manty put on his work gloves,
Speaker 2: grabbed the carcass of the dog and flung it back
Speaker 2: out the door because he just couldn't look at it.
Speaker 2: Once he did that, and backed away from the door
Speaker 2: and was getting the front stuff off the gloves and
Speaker 2: just took him off and dropped them off the side
Speaker 2: and picked up his rifle again and joined Joseph back
Speaker 2: in that corner. They said, within another maybe thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: that or started again, and it was moving faster. It
Speaker 2: just kept going around faster and faster. And then there's
Speaker 2: a second one. They heard off in the distance, making
Speaker 2: an identical call, but in a different tone, different pitch,
Speaker 2: and it was coming that direction. That's when they really
Speaker 2: started freaking out. Joseph said that at this point they
Speaker 2: were in tears, terrified.
Speaker 3: They didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2: So as this is going on, he said, it was
Speaker 2: a bit chaotic, which man I could totally relate to.
Speaker 3: The noise is moving so fast that every.
Speaker 2: Time they're trying to time to shoot it through the
Speaker 2: hole in the door, they just the timing was right
Speaker 2: to waste around. They had limited ammunition on them because
Speaker 2: the rest of it was out in the canvas tent,
Speaker 2: and they couldn't account for that. They couldn't have ever
Speaker 2: thought that this shit would be happening to where they
Speaker 2: would need one hundred round amo or whatever. So they
Speaker 2: wanted to wait and conserve until they could have an
Speaker 2: actual target because again, I haven't even seen what's been doing.
Speaker 3: This yet, he said. At the time, he just out there. Monsters.
Speaker 2: His words were, monsters are real. They kept telling Monty,
Speaker 2: Monsters are real. This goes on for a while, so
Speaker 2: there's two of these things making noises this wah wah.
Speaker 2: One would be running around here, so it was like
Speaker 2: synchronized wanh wah wah wah.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: It was the damnedest thing. They were feeling. The impacts
Speaker 2: on the ground at the same time, but it was
Speaker 2: so fast. He was like, it was scary fast. So
Speaker 2: finally they just decided, Okay, we're just gonna try to
Speaker 2: time it the best we can and fire a couple
Speaker 2: rounds out that that broken door Monty misfired first. When
Speaker 2: they were waiting, boom, he fires a shot. It got quiet,
Speaker 2: but the running around was still going, and then a
Speaker 2: brief moment later it started again.
Speaker 3: This wanh wah wah, this weird sound.
Speaker 2: Joseph was elbowing him and using hand finger signs one, two, three,
Speaker 2: and then they in unison shut boom.
Speaker 3: A little while later.
Speaker 2: It didn't stop the running around or anything, but he
Speaker 2: said within a couple moments it sounded like they felt
Speaker 2: and heard them moving away through the brush. He said
Speaker 2: they felt it more and heard it because with the
Speaker 2: rounds going off, their ears were ringing pretty good. Things
Speaker 2: calmed down and things get dead quiet. Now as they
Speaker 2: were calming down, they were having a little pow out.
Speaker 2: It started getting the light on the horizon, so they
Speaker 2: felt better. Daylight's coming, so they just sat there quiet waiting.
Speaker 2: They were shivering from the shock. They were trembling. He said,
Speaker 2: it wasn't cold in the cabin because it was well
Speaker 2: heated from that little woodstove and the fresh new roof
Speaker 2: and stuff outside of the door being a little tacoled
Speaker 2: originally or whatever, it was holding heat just fine. They
Speaker 2: were just trembling from the fear in the shock as
Speaker 2: they were discussing, we're not going to unhook that, or
Speaker 2: maybe we could try. They didn't know how damaged it was,
Speaker 2: and they weren't trying to hang out. Take the three
Speaker 2: wheeler down if they could and assess damages and work
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't in the caruards. They did decide they
Speaker 3: would attempt.
Speaker 2: One would push the tire from the inside up and
Speaker 2: over because it was just hooked over.
Speaker 3: Like a hangar hook.
Speaker 2: The other one would hold the back end and just
Speaker 2: try to guide it down or whatever. So as they
Speaker 2: were doing that, once it got light enough and they
Speaker 2: could look around and see that there was nothing immediately around,
Speaker 2: that's what they did. Fortunately, it worked out just right
Speaker 2: to where they were able to free it. Landed tipped over,
Speaker 2: but it was an all two hundred. They just flipped
Speaker 2: it right over. Manty flipped it over. Some of the
Speaker 2: gas spill and all that kind of stuff, but he
Speaker 2: wiped it up real quick. As Joseph came out and
Speaker 2: was standing guarden, it fired up. They're like, okay, great,
Speaker 2: so they go look around. The wall tent had no
Speaker 2: floor to it. It was just a wall tent, and
Speaker 2: then you put rocks down along the edges to keep
Speaker 2: it from anything blown under or whatever. And fortunately the
Speaker 2: one bag that had all the extra AMMO was still there.
Speaker 2: There was another survival bag still there. They grabbed those bags,
Speaker 2: fired up the wheel. They were just about to start
Speaker 2: taking off and they noticed tracks in the mud. They
Speaker 2: went over to see what the hell was this and
Speaker 2: it was huge, he said, it had to have been
Speaker 2: about twenty to twenty two inch track, and it looked
Speaker 2: just like a human track, just big and wide, and
Speaker 2: it was deep impression in the mud. The two dogs
Speaker 2: that were still remaining, they were petrified to come out,
Speaker 2: but they weren't going to leave them there considering what
Speaker 2: happened to the one. So what they did was is
Speaker 2: they got those leads. One was strung up through the
Speaker 2: brush where because they never saw the tent again, it
Speaker 2: was just gone wherever it was drug off to.
Speaker 3: They didn't go looking for it. It was just gone.
Speaker 2: They were able to get the leads one lead, and
Speaker 2: they used a rope basically leased them up. Once they
Speaker 2: were released up and they were moving away, the dogs
Speaker 2: didn't have to be dragged as kept up. The dogs
Speaker 2: were just petrified the whole time. Tails tucked asked in
Speaker 2: being dragged, but they were trying to move. They were
Speaker 2: trying to fight the urge to speed, and they also
Speaker 2: didn't want to strangle the dogs, but they couldn't hold
Speaker 2: them because Joseph was holding the rifle a month he
Speaker 2: was driving. They wanted to be able to protect themselves.
Speaker 2: So they get through. And when they get over this
Speaker 2: tree line, it's still early enough in the morning, it's daylight,
Speaker 2: but the treel like pitch black steel, and woods are dark.
Speaker 3: They stopped and they had the creeps.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to go into the dark woods, but
Speaker 2: the skiff is that way, right, so Monti goes, just
Speaker 2: get ready if we have to well drag the dogs.
Speaker 2: We got to get through here. The trail this is
Speaker 2: just a slight s curve. It wasn't nothing horrible. It
Speaker 2: wasn't a bunch of roots where they had to slow down.
Speaker 2: They could keep a pretty decent clip within reason. But
Speaker 2: they didn't want to. Monty falls started about five times
Speaker 2: because there was still about twenty yards from the opening
Speaker 2: of the trailer in of the woods. And I'm not
Speaker 2: laughing at him. I totally could understand the apprehension. Finally,
Speaker 2: after the five or so false starts, montaguez, I'm going
Speaker 2: for real this time.
Speaker 3: Just started going. As they went around the.
Speaker 2: First kind of bend in the curve of the trail
Speaker 2: occurs off to the left. Monty saw one of these
Speaker 2: things watching them, just standing there, and Joseph's last second
Speaker 2: swung the rifle boom and fired that shot right hillatious scream.
Speaker 2: He doesn't think he hit it, but it was right there.
Speaker 2: He said, it was within fifteen feet. Here's the scream,
Speaker 2: and Monty freaks out because it was right there. This
Speaker 2: huge being was just standing right there, and he hits
Speaker 2: a throttle. Well, they had the dogs attached still basically
Speaker 2: right this and grabbed one of them. Hilacious noise made,
Speaker 2: and they just kept going and the other dog was
Speaker 2: motivated to run. Okay, it was actually Joseph was trying
Speaker 2: to hold his rifle. He had chambered another round, but
Speaker 2: he was using his right hand to keep the line
Speaker 2: out of wrapping under the tire because the dog was
Speaker 2: passing them right. It was chaos. They got through the
Speaker 2: tree line out to the other side. They're freaking out.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of cutbaks right one. It was
Speaker 2: where they thought the skiff was. So when they got
Speaker 2: up to the first little area, there's no skiff and
Speaker 2: they're freaking out right because they had jumped off the wheeler.
Speaker 2: They're looking around and Mantia was like, no, over there.
Speaker 2: He just saw the part of the outboard the grass away.
Speaker 2: It was hanging over the edge of the river bank.
Speaker 2: So they run over there. Dog jumped right in. They
Speaker 2: jumped in, dropped kicker, fired it up, and got out
Speaker 2: of there. This approximately twenty five years ago. My heart
Speaker 2: rate's gone just thinking about it, because being in a
Speaker 2: situation like that where there was absolutely nothing you can do.
Speaker 3: There's nothing. What are you gonna do? Run?
Speaker 2: You're to run away. You're gonna call someone that ain't happening.
Speaker 2: Monsters are real. Care what anyone believes is irrelevant. Be
Speaker 2: aware in the woods. Don't take shit for granted. Just
Speaker 2: be aware. What I wanted to share with you today
Speaker 2: comes from Cannie and Michael.
Speaker 3: Some retirees.
Speaker 2: It had retired the year before COVID hit SOS roughly
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen that summer season.
Speaker 3: Now they were up.
Speaker 2: They were visiting some of their friends they've known forever
Speaker 2: who happened to live in Seward at the time. Went down,
Speaker 2: came out in the town, came in the anchorage, went
Speaker 2: down to Seward visiting with the friends.
Speaker 3: Their friends had just acquired a boat.
Speaker 2: They weren't the best navigator at sea, but they had
Speaker 2: all the technology to guide them around, do their thing
Speaker 2: and all that happy stuff when it comes to being
Speaker 2: safe on the boat. So Cannith and Michael they retired
Speaker 2: from the medical field. Both of them were doctors at
Speaker 2: one point, and then got into basically consulting work for
Speaker 2: a little while after and decided, hey, let's live life.
Speaker 2: Let's retire and go and see these places we think about.
Speaker 2: Now they're with their friends, and their friends have a
Speaker 2: thirty foot boat. Nice boat and again not the best
Speaker 2: with it, but they all lived as far as the
Speaker 2: boat trip itself. So what they did is they left
Speaker 2: Seward beautiful day, sunny, and they just started heading southeast,
Speaker 2: just hugging the coast, just sightseeing, just enjoying it. They
Speaker 2: said they weren't really paying attention, but about two and
Speaker 2: a half three hours outside of Seward, basically just riding
Speaker 2: the coast, they watched their water levels and they just
Speaker 2: at going around, watching the sea life and everything, the
Speaker 2: marine mammals having one hell of a good time. They
Speaker 2: came up to a point to where they saw there's
Speaker 2: gonna be weather and they decided they're going to head back,
Speaker 2: and so on their way back, they decide, let's just
Speaker 2: go past Seward and we'll go down further along that
Speaker 2: way and outrun the storm basically and look at more
Speaker 2: of the coast.
Speaker 3: They were on a boat.
Speaker 2: They could sleep on it, it was seaworthy, and if
Speaker 2: need be, they figured they'd pull into.
Speaker 3: A nice safe cove.
Speaker 2: Now they're new to Alaska, and so their friends that
Speaker 2: lived here or lived in Seward at the time, and
Speaker 2: they were going by their GPS little navigation tool on
Speaker 2: deep water, shallow water, shipping lanes, stuff like that. So
Speaker 2: what they decided to do is the storm was catching
Speaker 2: up sooner, so they pulled into a nice little bay
Speaker 2: that would have been pretty much kept them out of
Speaker 2: the rough seas of the storm that was coming.
Speaker 3: So they're there overnight. They're having a great time.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after the east messages.
Speaker 2: Once they anchored out, everything was safe and everything. Everyone
Speaker 2: enjoying some beverages and they end up going to bed.
Speaker 2: They're all woken up the next morning by what they
Speaker 2: think is some kind of siren.
Speaker 3: They don't know what the hell.
Speaker 2: It is, but it's coming from shore and they're like,
Speaker 2: was that a tsunami siren or some kind because again
Speaker 2: they'd never heard anything like it before. It was just loud,
Speaker 2: and they said it started low and it ended up
Speaker 2: high pitch, kind of like an air raid siren. So
Speaker 2: they sat there for a minute and they're like, that's
Speaker 2: a damned stain. And then they heard what they thought
Speaker 2: was a woman being murdered. Okay, they're approximately one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty yards offshore in Avadmi, so Michael and his
Speaker 2: friend will call him Spencer. Spencer of course, fresh to Alaska,
Speaker 2: he had just acquired himself a four to fifty four
Speaker 2: custle handgun in a twelve gage shotgun, because again, living
Speaker 2: in the last you got to be prepared and all
Speaker 2: that for bearers whatever. So Michael and Spencer. They dropped
Speaker 2: the little dinghy boat, the little runabout, throw the little
Speaker 2: four horse kicker on there, fire it up. Michael and
Speaker 2: Spencer bline it to shore to go and help this woman.
Speaker 2: They get to shore, and you got understand, the way
Speaker 2: the waves were hitting was just pushing them in, so
Speaker 2: banged up their outboard a little bit.
Speaker 3: I know this one all too well.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so Spencer kicks it up, finally gets it
Speaker 2: to stay in position. Kicked up out of the water,
Speaker 2: the waves are pushing them against shore, so they take
Speaker 2: the opportunity to hop out their line tied off to
Speaker 2: this big rock that happened to be there. Michael had
Speaker 2: the shotgun, never shot one before in his life. Spencer
Speaker 2: had only shot the two new guns he had because
Speaker 2: he just got them and made sure they worked. Neither
Speaker 2: one claimed to be a marksman, neither one claimed to
Speaker 2: be an outdoorsman.
Speaker 3: So let's not be too hard.
Speaker 2: On these guys, because they just they're trying to go
Speaker 2: and say what they thought was a woman being murdered.
Speaker 2: They get up and I guess the shoreline there's a tidebreak,
Speaker 2: high water mark, whatever I'm gonna call it, and then
Speaker 2: there's a bank, and then they're just looking in there
Speaker 2: and it's dark and it's thick with brush all through,
Speaker 2: and they still hear the scream again coming and it
Speaker 2: sounds like it's just inside the tree line.
Speaker 3: So they're like, man, we got to move.
Speaker 2: They have handheld radio for the two ladies at the boat,
Speaker 2: so in case they're on standby the radio for help.
Speaker 2: But again they didn't know. They didn't know if it
Speaker 2: was domestic or anything. And because they were right there,
Speaker 2: they felt compelled and being in the medical field, let's
Speaker 2: go see if a woman hiker is hurt and take
Speaker 2: it from there.
Speaker 3: Let's assess situation and move from there.
Speaker 2: They move into the tree line and it's a bitch
Speaker 2: to get through, but once they punch through, it's fairly open.
Speaker 3: It's just that brush line along the shore.
Speaker 2: It could be pretty dense, but once you get in
Speaker 2: there you can get moving around and it's spongy, mossy.
Speaker 3: It's like an enchanted.
Speaker 2: World because of the old girl timbers and the moss
Speaker 2: everywhere and stuff. It just looked like something from Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings. Started hearing like something from Lord of
Speaker 2: the Rings. Well, and so they're moving towards this sound,
Speaker 2: and they're both looking at each other. Spencer seemed very
Speaker 2: nervous from what Michael was saying, and kept stopping and
Speaker 2: looking at Michael, just looking for any queue to get
Speaker 2: the hell out of there. But Michael was just like,
Speaker 2: it's that way. The just retired from being a doctor.
Speaker 2: He wanted to go and check it out. They're just
Speaker 2: coming up over this little ridge and they're handheld radio
Speaker 2: squawks to life. It's Candice and Spencer's wife. We haven't
Speaker 2: heard from you away, we haven't heard from you. We've
Speaker 2: radioed the coast guard.
Speaker 3: Fine.
Speaker 2: It scared the crap out of them right. Spencer asked,
Speaker 2: what did you report? Strange screams? Okay did you give
Speaker 2: a low case? And she said, I read off the
Speaker 2: numbers asked for on the GPS. Okay, stand by, we're
Speaker 2: still looking. We're still investigating. She was like, be careful,
Speaker 2: and he turned down the radio because not off, but
Speaker 2: down because it was wide open. So when they chimed
Speaker 2: in it startled the crap out of them. It was
Speaker 2: during this time where he was radioing back and forth Michael,
Speaker 2: because Spencer was focused on radio.
Speaker 3: Michael hears movement off over this ridge.
Speaker 2: They're just about to crest it and be able to
Speaker 2: get a better view, and Michael points as soon as
Speaker 2: Spencer turns down the radio and adjusts it in his
Speaker 2: vest and gets a better hold of his gun, and
Speaker 2: he points. And so they get up to the top
Speaker 2: of this ridge, and when they're looking down, they're not
Speaker 2: seeing anything, okay, And it's fairly open. These are big
Speaker 2: old growth trees. There's rushing stuff, but they're not seeing
Speaker 2: anything that looks like a struggle, looks like a woman
Speaker 2: around screaming or anything. Michael said, the hair stood up
Speaker 2: on the back of his neck, and Spencer held up
Speaker 2: his arm and his hair was standing up on his arm,
Speaker 2: and they both looked at each other and shook their heads.
Speaker 3: Nah.
Speaker 2: And just then, out of the corner of his eye,
Speaker 2: Michael noticed one of the big old growth trees about
Speaker 2: fifty feet away. Something big and dark moved back behind him,
Speaker 2: threw him off, and he looked. He didn't see anything,
Speaker 2: didn't see anything, mentioned it to Spencer. Spencer comes past him,
Speaker 2: comes around him, and again they're up on this ridge.
Speaker 2: It's going rising an elevation off to their right and
Speaker 2: lowering an elevation off to their left, and it's like
Speaker 2: a little bit of a gully and a little bit
Speaker 2: of a stream that breaks down onto the shoreline down
Speaker 2: below him. And they must have gained maybe seventy five
Speaker 2: feet in elevation going up to this ridge looking for
Speaker 2: this noise. So when Spencer comes around to his right
Speaker 2: hand side and is looking in the direction that Michael's
Speaker 2: trying to explain to him because he didn't want to
Speaker 2: take his eyes off that tree. When Spencer sees it,
Speaker 2: Spencer starts screaming f barms and holy shit and this
Speaker 2: and that and just turns around and gone, and michaels.
Speaker 3: What the hell, what the hell? He raises up the shotgun.
Speaker 3: He's like, dude, what the hell.
Speaker 2: Then Michael sees why because this thing steps out massive.
Speaker 2: He said he thought it was a giant in a
Speaker 2: gilly suit at first, and he's looking and he's trying
Speaker 2: to focus, and this whole time he didn't even realize,
Speaker 2: but he's pointing the shotgun right.
Speaker 3: At this thing fifty feet away.
Speaker 2: He said it was downslope from us, but it was
Speaker 2: almost as tall as me.
Speaker 3: At fifty feet away.
Speaker 2: He said it had to have been roughly guessing over
Speaker 2: ten foot tall, very broad, very muscular looking, but he
Speaker 2: couldn't see definition because it was looked like a gilly suit.
Speaker 2: And he goes, this thing looked like a mentally challenged
Speaker 2: Neanderthal his words, he used different words for it, but
Speaker 2: he said it looked like this thing that had some
Speaker 2: kind of down syndrome.
Speaker 3: Maybe. I asked him. I was like, can you clarify?
Speaker 2: He goes, it had that look about its face, but
Speaker 2: when he focused on it, he could see dark skinned,
Speaker 2: he said. I asked about the shade of color, what
Speaker 2: have you? And he said it was like a darker gray.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to feed him or anything, because I
Speaker 2: was going to ask him it feels like a couple
Speaker 2: shades darker than what cement type thing, but I let
Speaker 2: him explain it in his words, and he just said
Speaker 2: dark gray, not black. And he said he look greasy,
Speaker 2: just greasy looking the way the light was and everything.
Speaker 2: He could see a little shiny on the face and whatnot,
Speaker 2: but he said the eyes were so sunk in and dark.
Speaker 2: He couldn't see nothing of the eyes, no whites of
Speaker 2: the eyes or anything like that. Now, all this is
Speaker 2: happening in milliseconds right because Spencer's already beaten feet. Michael
Speaker 2: holding the shotgun, he yells at it, Hey, where's the woman?
Speaker 2: Where's the woman? And he said, as soon as he
Speaker 2: said that, this thing turns and walks back past behind
Speaker 2: the trees that it was just standing by, and went
Speaker 2: into some other tree and gone disappeared. He couldn't make
Speaker 2: it out anymore because of the way the vegetation was.
Speaker 2: He takes a quick look around. He said, his heart
Speaker 2: felt like it wasn't even beaten that whole entire time.
Speaker 2: Turns around and by this time he hears the outboard
Speaker 2: on the little skiff. Spencer's down there with all his
Speaker 2: might trying to fire this thing up.
Speaker 3: So he runs down.
Speaker 2: He said he felt a couple times he heard noises,
Speaker 2: would turn around and was holding the shotgun, and he
Speaker 2: realized once they got clear of everything, that he's glad
Speaker 2: he didn't have to shoot that shotgun because one of
Speaker 2: the times he felt it dug in and hole punched
Speaker 2: into the moss, and he said there was at least
Speaker 2: six eight inches of the first eight inches of that
Speaker 2: barrel was plugged with moss and crap. So he gets
Speaker 2: down the shore spencer has the outboard still out of
Speaker 2: the water and trying to fire it up. But he's
Speaker 2: going to burn it up, right, So Michael gets down
Speaker 2: there and tries to get him calmed down. He says,
Speaker 2: hold on, I'll push us out. Get in there, lower
Speaker 2: it and do your thing. I was like, man for
Speaker 2: being startled with that realization of that, you seem to
Speaker 2: hold it together pretty good. And he was like he
Speaker 2: was able to compartmentalize and stay in the moment even
Speaker 2: though it was real high stress. Finally Spencer got it
Speaker 2: fired up and Michael was trying to put the shotgun in.
Speaker 2: Of course, trying to jump up into this little dingy
Speaker 2: is like ten foot and he's trying to jump in
Speaker 2: it as Spencer's trying to back away from him, right,
Speaker 2: So he's hold on, hey, you got soap them wet,
Speaker 2: and finally got himself up. Spencer just turned and bee
Speaker 2: lines it straight back to the boat.
Speaker 3: Comes in hot.
Speaker 2: He didn't even barely let off the throttle when they're
Speaker 2: getting close, because Spencer could not get the hell out
Speaker 2: of there fast enough. It was to the point where
Speaker 2: as they were coming in closer to the boat, Michael
Speaker 2: said he was putting his foot up bracing for the
Speaker 2: impact of it, and I was like, damn, I get it.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 2: You don't knock again, Spencer. That's jarring shit. But there's
Speaker 2: also panic and safety protocol. They don't ever line up,
Speaker 2: they just don't.
Speaker 3: They beg into the boat.
Speaker 2: Spencer's off that little dingy, didn't even kill the outboard nothing.
Speaker 2: The radio was there, his pistol was right there on
Speaker 2: the seat, and he was in firing up the big boat.
Speaker 2: And Michael realized, I need to get this shit out
Speaker 2: of here because he's going to freaking leave me here.
Speaker 3: So he gets up there.
Speaker 2: Spencer's wife's trying to calm him down, and Cannas is
Speaker 2: talking to Michael. Michael's trying to say, hey, there's a giant.
Speaker 2: They're talking about it. It's chaotic because Spencer's talking to
Speaker 2: his wife, Michael's trying to talk to Candace. It's just
Speaker 2: a whirlwind of chaotic chatter. Michael said that he finally
Speaker 2: calmed Spencer down. Spencer was like, what happened? I thought
Speaker 2: it was going to get you. He goes no, because
Speaker 2: all this happened real fast, him yelling at it walking away.
Speaker 2: Did this all happen within seconds?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: He got Spencer calm down.
Speaker 2: They had radio coast guard saying, hey, we had radioed
Speaker 2: in this call for a screaming woman and commenced to
Speaker 2: share what I just shared with you. He said that
Speaker 2: it was very strange because it came back something be
Speaker 2: advised to stay within the area, gain a certain distance
Speaker 2: from shore and wait, someone was coming or something. So
Speaker 2: they pulled anchor they went for They're out doing as
Speaker 2: they were told for a little bit. Then he said
Speaker 2: a little while later they were radioed back and this
Speaker 2: is on channel sixteen. I don't know if there's any
Speaker 2: records of it, but he said they told him to
Speaker 2: vacate the area, leave the area and ask for everyone's name,
Speaker 2: type of thing, vote number, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: They said that someone would follow up with them at
Speaker 3: a later time. Did all that They get out of there.
Speaker 2: Now, the conditions weren't the best because the wind was
Speaker 2: blowing and stuff like that, and so once they got
Speaker 2: out in the deeper water, the swells were bigger. Everyone
Speaker 2: was seasick. They basically bowled down to Michael following the
Speaker 2: gauges and the instrumentation to get them back to seward
Speaker 2: and whatnot. He said the way back was a very
Speaker 2: long ride because he didn't know what he was doing.
Speaker 2: He was scared to death that the boat was going
Speaker 2: to tip. When you're a novice, you don't know any better.
Speaker 2: So that was the chorten end of itself, he said.
Speaker 2: They get back there when they're pulling in. Finally, Spencer
Speaker 2: had calmed down enough where he took over the controls
Speaker 2: to dock up and everything.
Speaker 3: They had calmed down enough.
Speaker 2: So they end up gathering everything off the boat and
Speaker 2: going back to their friend's house where they were staying.
Speaker 2: And they were all sitting there, dead quiet for two hours,
Speaker 2: he said, sitting around that table until Spencer finally opened up.
Speaker 2: And Spencer's not his real name. Spencer opened up and goes,
Speaker 2: that thing looked at me. Michael was like, it looked
Speaker 2: at me as well, and he goes, when it looked
Speaker 2: at me, this is Spencer talking. He said, when it
Speaker 2: looked at me, it looked at my soul, and I
Speaker 2: felt it. Michael was taken back because he didn't get
Speaker 2: that same feeling. But again, he wasn't Spencer, he said.
Speaker 2: His friend making that comment really stuck with him through
Speaker 2: the last five six years, that he looked at his soul.
Speaker 2: He was like, looking back on it. It showed no
Speaker 2: aggression towards us. All it did was it looked and
Speaker 2: then vacated the area. It wasn't like it stocked to
Speaker 2: try to get them. Well, that's one of the things.
Speaker 2: These encounters are so random like that. I have people
Speaker 2: ask me all the time, where would be a good
Speaker 2: place a good chance of running into something? I'm like,
Speaker 2: even if I knew, I wouldn't necessarily be telling somebody
Speaker 2: anything like that, because man, that's a huge liability. I
Speaker 2: don't want to think about it. I advise against it.
Speaker 2: It only sounds like you want to have an encounter.
Speaker 2: It only seems like you do. But once you do,
Speaker 2: there's certain things you can't undo. Just be careful what
Speaker 2: you wish for. I want to thank Michael and Candace
Speaker 2: for reaching out to share.
Speaker 3: I want to thank you guys for joining me. We'll
Speaker 3: catch you soon here.
Speaker 4: On the next one, they say, you don't gotta go home,
Speaker 4: but you can't stay. I don't want to be.
Speaker 2: We're all out.
Speaker 4: Its joy, this job, that chime, Everything came right back, crying.
Speaker 3: Back, joy for me, Joy, staying right.
Speaker 4: You come it right away, still stay step stay step still,
Speaker 4: donnock down doss still stasssst used these pass