Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to Challenge. The podcast all
about MTV is the Challenge. My name is Big Uncle Sweetee.
I'm joined, as per usual, by the other drinker in
the group, Parlan san Diego, and the one who can't
drink because he's at.
Speaker 2: Work, Zachi Bananas.
Speaker 1: We had a lovely conversation about pumpkin beer that is
lost to.
Speaker 3: The ether, pumpkins stuff in general.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the pumpkin beer.
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll upload it as part of the pre show.
We'll have two pre shows for this episode, will be
like four.
Speaker 1: It'll be great. But they just want to hear about pumpkins.
I'm sure of it. Yeah, it's pumpkin season though, guys,
get those pumpkin spice lot. It's basic bitch drinks and
it's great and it supports the next time over Morton, Illinois. Hey,
what's up, everybady? Carl? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Oh? You know, not a lot? Getting ready for Halloween.
We've had a one of my girlfriends is having her
thirty first birthday this weekend, so she's seeming it after
the movie Midsummer.
Speaker 1: Watched that. I haven't seen that one yet.
Speaker 3: I've heard it's like psychological thriller type of thing.
Speaker 1: Ye, crazy deep, we're all wearing.
Speaker 3: We're all we're all wearing white. Theoretically someone might be
dressing up as a bear. Yeah, it should just be
a fun night.
Speaker 1: You're not the type of women that every woman is
just a sexy version of the Halloween costume.
Speaker 3: Well it's not really Halloween costume. And we did I
mean you saw our We went out for a zombie
crawl last weekend, and I mean, I guess a few
of them were kind of sexy, but no, like, we're
all in our late twenties and me and my late thirties.
Speaker 1: But thank you. I was gonna point that out, but
that's rude if I do it. All right, we're gonna
just jump into this episode. What do you guys think
episode nine?
Speaker 3: You're not gonna ask Zach how he's doing.
Speaker 1: Za's been sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's think of besides that.
Speaker 1: Just two in the countries cooking up with ladies.
Speaker 2: Okay, basically it Yeah, you know, yeah, I didn't choose
the pimp life. The pimp life chose me.
Speaker 1: You did. Check. You did kind of choose it, though
you embrace it a little bit. You pursue it.
Speaker 2: Yep, I do chase down those orgies.
Speaker 1: We gotta change your name to Pimpy Bananas. Maybe Carlin
Carlin Apprus Uh this guys, can you believe it's episode
nine of this season? Can you believe it?
Speaker 3: Can you know?
Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. I think this season is great.
I want to I just want to say that, Zach,
I think you and I have been sort of the
champions of this season.
Speaker 3: No, I really like this season. I just didn't like
the last episode. I thought that the challenge and the
and the elimination in the lap last episode were shit.
But I've really, I've really enjoyed this season. We're finally like,
it's not like the last few seasons that have just
been complete nutter bullshit the entire time, though I was
a little the elimination. This episode was yet again another
one of those like, oh, let's do it a game
that anybody can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, spoiler, we're not eywhere close to that yet.
Speaker 3: But I know, but I'm just I'm real tired of
the games that anyone can do. Part of the whole
point of the challenge is that it's something is not
fair in somebody's and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: My point is that we do actually have a lot
of reviews this week. None of them are good. They
are all very negative about all of us, and a
lot of them focused on how down we are of
the season. But I don't think that as reflective of
us as a podcast because I am up on this
episode this season. I like the season, and Zach, I
think you've been on my team with most of this.
Carlon and Wolfe, you guys have been the down you guys.
Speaker 3: Have been this It's definitely a downer last episode, but
I feel like overall I have enjoyed this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've been loving it too. You know. It's funny. Actually,
I think it's great having back all these old bets.
Actually got an argument with someone on social media earlier
this week though, because they were talking about like a
season forty one cast and there's all like Era four
and new people, and I was like, oh, you gotta
have the bets and they're like, no, like these vets
sucked this season. I'm like, they're like, that's why thirty
nine was like one of the best seasons. It shows up.
I was like, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: They need to leave because thirty nine was shit.
Speaker 2: I agree so like I think we you know, Tim
and I and I guess Carlin to a lesser degree,
we've been loving this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yes, I think it's like last episode. Listen.
We'll get to the reviews later. But Carlyn, you are
You are definitely accused of being a Debbie downer this season,
and I am to I don't think. I don't think
I am. I don't think.
Speaker 3: I have not letten a bad review yet. So it's
about fucking.
Speaker 1: Time you're about to obody.
Speaker 3: About fucking time.
Speaker 2: The listeners are with him and I. They loved watching
a beat the crap out over?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I really didn't like last episode.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's let's let's make everybody hate Carlin
a little bit more and dive into uh Go for
episode number nine. This one's called an era.
Speaker 3: Confident in Who I Am?
Speaker 2: So are you? Well?
Speaker 1: We're about to change that tonight. Let's fucking go. Uh
We start off with a flashback this episode to my
favorite season of the Challenge, Battle of the Sex Is.
We get the flashback of Melissa yelling at Julie Carlin.
Do you remember this? Are you a fan of the
season from that far back?
Speaker 3: I do really like that because that's the season that
happened in Tell you're right, right, No, that was Jamaica,
that's right, it was Yes for.
Speaker 1: Knowing ship like this. Why do I know this? Because
we do this ship this stupid so dumb. Why it's
like fucking I have limited space in my brain and
that's one of the things.
Speaker 3: I know it happens. No, I, I honestly I didn't.
Even though I listened to this podcast do the throwback
season to Battle the Sexes, I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the show while you guys were doing
the throwback I was just listening to the throwback episodes,
So I totally.
Speaker 1: Do you remember this?
Speaker 2: I do remember, I didn't really remember it until I
saw it again. Then once I saw the clip, I
was like, oh, yeah, I remember this moment.
Speaker 1: Oh so good. And actually I emailed Julie while we
were doing the recap season and Battle of the Sexes.
I emailed Julie about this fight. Julie emailed me back
and like went like super in depth. There was like
racial shit involved in this fight between her and Melissa.
It was like fucking intense. So go back and listen
to those throwback episodes.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I remember you talking about her
emailing back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Julie emailed email me a big long thing,
like a very in depth reply.
Speaker 2: Very give you Julie's email, and I never never did.
Speaker 1: Oh shoul I'll give it to you. It's like on
the internet, dude, it's like not hard to find. And
she emailed me back. I mean literally within a half hour,
no doubt. Wow, she must have she must have got
it and just started typing because it was like a
book she sent back, and like right away.
Speaker 3: Watching these old ass episodes, all right, well here you
need to get the realty.
Speaker 1: She claimed to not remember the fight, which is like,
you're fucking full of shit. Of course you remember this fight,
Like how could you not remember this? But anyway, yeah,
it was uh that Melissa dropping the I thought i'd
let you know, like, I just love how she said that. Anyway,
we should move past the flashback.
Speaker 3: People that were not in the season.
Speaker 2: Do you think she'd be one to talk about trying
to kill Veronica Julie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a clip that gets shown like usually at
least once a season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not so much.
Speaker 3: In the more recent seasons, but if on that season,
it definitely gets shown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to have some Julie, some crazy Julie
representation on this this season. I love this Julie I did.
She's so crazy. Though. Did you watch the back to
New Orleans or whatever?
Speaker 2: I did, which it was good, but also like I
left the original New Orleans just like I thought Julie
was the greatest, and I watched this, I was like, oh, like,
I don't know if I just like didn't see it
in the original New Orleans and they just didn't show it.
She's crazy, it really, it really changed my opinion of her.
Speaker 1: Some so Zach personal question, but is your conversion to Mormonism?
Is that related to the Julie thing because you you
knew of her being Mormon before you were Mormon.
Speaker 2: Right, I did, Yes. I don't know if it impacted
me at all. I remember I remember thinking how stupid
it was after the show that they kicked her out
of college for going on the show, and geedn't really
mad at the Mormons for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous, Franklin. Yeah, but anyway, Hey, we're
past the recap now, and Rachel and Corey is there.
Can you believe it's only taken us ten minutes to
get past that thirty second at the beginning second clip.
Speaker 2: It's because I was just thinking she got kicked out
of college for you know, sharing a house with men,
and I'm currently going to colle sure by U and
I share rooms with women constantly.
Speaker 1: So well, my impression was that it wasn't necessarily that
she roomed with men. It was more just like sort
of the general like sort of julieisms, right of just
like questioning her Mormonism and sort of rebellion.
Speaker 3: Past this because it has nothing to do.
Speaker 1: On this season. Carlin's done. Carlyn doesn't remember Julie.
Speaker 2: No I do.
Speaker 3: I just don't care about this conversation.
Speaker 1: Remember when she took the short path and she fell
right the fuck off that little bridge. That was great. Yeah,
the road to God is straight and narrow something. Anyway,
Uh so, Rachel and Corey they're coming back into the house.
They're doing the cool boxing shit. I don't know. I
usually hate when they come back into the house, but
they own it this time. I'm kind of into this,
and I love Corey and I love Rachel, so I'm
cool with this.
Speaker 3: It was kind of fun watching Rachel, but walk back in.
Speaker 1: Dude, this is Rachel's episode, right, Rachel is such a badass.
She's so fucking cool and such a badass, and I'd
loved it like this was her this was her episode
where she represented the last episode.
Speaker 3: Like there have been a few episodes where I feel
like she's gotten a little like Derek esque. This episode,
I actually liked it. Like this episode it really worked.
Speaker 1: For I think it's because she's alone, yes, and it's
sort of like nothing left to lose. She's just she
can either be a whiny little baby or just be
like fucking I'm just gonna go. And she's like I'm
gonna go. And it's yes, I'm rooting for Rachel for sure.
And we get a couple scenes of like Ryan, So
Ryan's a target, but so is Laurel. So Ryan feels
a little safe because Laurel's gonna try to win, but
he's also feeling at ease because Laurel everybody hates her,
so they're gonna try to throw her in. And so yeah,
there's a like this is the start of the dynamic. Right.
The whole episode is basically this dynamic of Laurel versus
vacation Alliance versus like where Rachel fits in. And we
started at the beginning, and this is true of the
whole episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Era one and two versus Era three and four.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's pretty that's a better way to break that
down for sure.
Speaker 2: Yea.
Speaker 3: And yeah, David in the chat room is right. Everybody
does love an underdog.
Speaker 1: What was there? Do we have a chatter?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I did we do?
Speaker 3: Just twice?
Speaker 1: Well that's enough, David, you're an unofficial guest host tonight welcome.
Uh we get Corey and Josh. They do a sort
of a makeup session where Josh awkwardly begs Corey to
hug him. Uh, Andy actually does hug him, but then
immediately cuts to a thing where he's like, yeah, I
still don't trust Josh and like this is why wouldn't either?
Speaker 3: I This was such bullshit, Like you know that he
went to Corey to do this while Corey was in
a really, really fucking good mood because he had just
won and he'd just gotten back and everybody else was
in a good mood with him, Like it.
Speaker 2: Was just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Josh being the little bitch that he is.
Speaker 1: Yep, and that was super clear. Like everything that Corey said,
you could tell it was just because he was sort
of like high on the experience, like he was just
feeling good and so he but his confessionals were the
real thing. And I think confessional wise, he hates Josh
and that is most people do at this point in
the game.
Speaker 3: I just going, yeah, this episode is not real. Go
for him. Yep.
Speaker 2: Love that. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: All right, hey guys, good news. On this episode we
get not one, not two, but three slow motion workout montages.
This is the first one of those. It's very nice.
And then immediately cut to Devin who says he's been
in bed for fifteen hours straight. What would you guys
do if you were in this house? Would you could
you lay in bed for fifteen hours? Carlon? Do you
have that ability to do that? If I'm sick, that's
the only way you can do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I it gets to a point, a certain point
in time in the morning where I'm just like, Okay,
I've been here for long enough, like I need to
get up and do something. I'm hungry, or I feel
like I need to move or literally anything, or the
dog is yelling at me and telling me that she
wants to go out and run around. It's like, if
I'm sick, I can just chill.
Speaker 1: But Zach, what about you? Fifteen hours? Could you do
fifteen hours in a bed?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I mean maybe I've had a good company,
but besides that, now.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of this, especially in a Challenge house. The
good company is obviously something, but no phone, no TV,
no fucking shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He says that it's indicative of how comfortable Devin felt.
He does not feel threatened at all.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Yes, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, talking of people and making sure your
spot is safe in the house. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then David also put in it seems that Devon
is laying Devon laying about is a factor of him
thinking his vacation alliance is so strong that he doesn't
need to put in any work.
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yep. Well, I mean that leads us into
this conversation where, yeah, the rest of this conversation between
now and the Challenge is about the vacation alliance. Tory
talks about the vacation alliance. It's they're they're kind of
crushing it. They have that handshake which is kind of
I'll be honest, it's kind of a cool handshake with
the VA shit like that's kind of cool. I like that.
But Bananas hates the Vacation Alliance obviously he wants to
get the Vacation Alliance battling each other, which I think
most people outside of the Alliance probably want that. Yeah,
and Laurel reinforces that she's sort of is this like
agent by herself, like a free agent. Going back to
one of her first wins, she's just sort of is
there by herself. Nobody's supporting her, but she just has
to win and prove herself, and she wants to do that.
If I like Laurel more, I would like this speech.
But I hate Laurel, so she looks like a bitch
in my opinion, Coron, Can I say that or is
it sexist? If I say that, You're fine? Okay, good?
Speaker 3: So I feel exactly the same way, Zach.
Speaker 1: Do you feel the same way.
Speaker 2: She's not the nicest person.
Speaker 1: Zach agrees, and with that we're over to the challenge.
Speaker 2: O smack, all right.
Speaker 1: They arrive at the Challenge. We learn now, guys that
we started the season with forty players were down to
twenty so player wise, we're halfway through. Does it feel
like halfway through a season? I know we is this
part of what we lost in the first Yeah, it
kind of does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, we did talk about kind of talk about
this in the first recording. It does kind of feel
like we're halfway, Like it feels more like a season
from a few years ago where you kind of feel
like you're halfway, but you also feel like you could
still be at the beginning, like you're not just waiting
to get rid of people because they keep coming back
where they're still there or yes, like even though some
of these episodes have been really long, because they still
do the hour and a half thing, Like I think
it's a good Like it feels like it's halfway through
the season. And I mean no spoilers, but they did
do the MIDSI and trailer after this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems pretty much a sure thing. We are
basically halfway through the season. Where so we should assume
an eighteen episode season.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, eighteen and then what to two for
the reunion?
Speaker 1: I mean, do we haven't had reunion for a while.
I kind of hope we get one, but I guess
we'll see. Yeah, true, they zacht do you know anything
about that? Have they recorded it? Is there?
Speaker 3: They usually usually reunions don't get recorded until second half
of the season at least. Yeah, with all the other
shows I watched, it's second half of the season towards
the end where the cast only has to watch like
four episodes back to back to back. Yeah, or six
episodes back to back to back.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard any official confirmation about it, but Josh
did tweet out this week that he's not going to
address the stuff with Devin until the reunion. So well, Josh, Caroline.
Speaker 3: Caroline just put in the chat room that Carus said
she's flying out this weekend for it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, and Mark says that the first eight Boots aren't invited. Sorry, Mark, Bomp.
Speaker 1: Maybe get a cameo or something, yeah, something, Uh all right, See,
I mean.
Speaker 2: We're out of a person cash. You can't have everyone there,
So like that makes sense that I wouldn't invite like
the first twenty or so unless they had a major
part in the story.
Speaker 1: I think that's my thing, is the major part in
the story, right, Because I think you could make a
case that there's some people like Casey for example, Casey
played no part in this season, like she did not
exist as usual.
Speaker 3: She's more like, yeah, she's but she's played. She's one,
she's a champion, and she had more to do with
this episode, and she was part of the occasional lance
I would say someone like a viv like she's still
or Nehemiah there in this in this show up until
this point, and I forget that he's there almost every episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep son, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess we could do kids, that's gonna say. I mean,
I think from the vacation lines, we need we need
like Tory and Devin and then like Josh to like,
you know, hash it out. I don't think we need Casey,
Like she's not gonna add anything to that.
Speaker 1: Agree Zach and listen, I don't dislike Casey. I just
don't know why she is on this show. She just
doesn't say anything or do anything or I don't.
Speaker 3: Know a few times that she has actually like spoken
have Yeah, it hasn't been a whole there hasn't been
a whole lot to add, except there was a point
in time in this episode where I was really happy
with what she had to say. But we'll get there later.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. This challenge though it is called
bottoms Out, Carlyn. You love explaining these challenges. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh well shit, Okay, So it starts off they have
they We have to all the eras have their own
little board that has a through Z with a hashtag
at the end, and each letter has an equation that
will pop up on a board across the way. There
are going to be twenty seven equations that run through
relatively quickly, and most of them are like addition, subtraction, multiplication.
It's relatively easy things that you can figure out in
your head within the first like thirty seconds. So it's
running through these twenty seven equations, and then depending on
how many equations you get right, you then get hand
holds in a forty foot container that's going to be
suspended over water off the beach, and in that container,
your team, depending on how many handholds you have, you
can divide them up. However, your team then has to
they get lifted up in this container above the water.
It count as soon as TJ blows the horn. They
have five seconds to go from the middle line to
up on the walls, holding onto these handholds. Kind of
like climb handholds, so not very big holding onto these handholds,
and they have to hold on to them for as
long as they've poused the can. And the team who
holds on the longest not like an addition of you know,
player ABCD. It's not a combined time. It is an
overall time for the entire team. The team that holds
on the longest wins.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I personally thought this was a fantastic mission for
I love this. Teams that were sort of uneven because
you know, like and we've realized later, like average time,
like the the way in which they line the teams up.
Rachel's had a disadvantage, right, because she's not going to
get as many math equations right as a team with
more players, so she's almost always going to go first
or second. Maybe, but this is handheld shit, right, so
you really just want Rachel just needs four?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really, Rachel, I mean ultimately, Rachel just
needed a minutum of two, right to.
Speaker 1: Actually do the thing. Yeah, to actually hold.
Speaker 3: On a minimum of two, preferably at least four.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Four puts her at a major advantage based on
what we saw the other teams get four puts her
at an advantage. So this is one where like maybe
having less players is actually better for you as a team.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, so my role worry was when they were going
through these equations because it was they were you know, abe,
each letter had its own equation. I was worried that
in the containers the the handholds were they going to
be labeled A b CD, so like if you had
A and F, they were going to be on complete
opposite sides of the same side. So it was really
because Rachel only got like seven equations.
Speaker 1: Right, but that's it, And yes, but that was right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally great. But when I first saw that,
I was like, oh shit, they're gonna if they do
it in the way that the alphabet is done, then
she's going to have handholds on like complete opposite ends.
Speaker 2: Of this none.
Speaker 3: I think only two or three of the equations were
near each other. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was exactly my thought too, is I say, why
is Rachel so disadvantage? But I think this was mostly fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did do. I think it looked like what
they did in there was put them in a way
they're spaced out enough where it's not like a comfortable thing.
But they're not going to put someone like Rachel, who
is all by herself at a severe disadvantage by putting
A at one end and F in the middle, and you
know Q with the complete opposite ends. They put all
three of them like near near ish to each other,
where she could hold and stand on all three.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: It was really fucking funny to watch someone like THEO
go to try to grab onto the one that's on
the ceiling and the one that's on the wall and
then fall and then the bottom open up and him
just immediately go down.
Speaker 1: There were some big surprises as to who went who
went out quickly. But yeah, so we're still the math
questions though for this point, and really most teams kind
of pick one or two people to sort of solve
the problems, and those people are Devin, Kyland and Laurel
basically per teen and so at the end of the thing, Yeah,
Rachel got six questions, right, Era two got seventeen questions, right,
Era three got fourteen, and ERA four also got fourteen.
But as you said, Carlin, Rachel's at six is actually
had an advantage. She has more handholds because they allowed
them to play some closer, and you know.
Speaker 3: Well, in the division of the number of handholds per person,
so you've got her six for one person. ERA two
has seven people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with seventeen seven people.
Speaker 3: To seventeen handholds. Era three head, I think seven people
or do they have five people five people? I don't remember.
And then ERA four had like six or seven people
as well, so Era four had two handholds per person.
Speaker 1: Yep. So I thought this is a good way to
sort of, yeah, balance out everybody's math. But Rachel does
have to go first because they order them based on
how many they got, right, so we.
Speaker 3: Should hand holds don't mean just for your hands, like
they're rock climbing handholds, so you can there are some
that are lower down that you can stand on, and
then there are some that are higher up that you
can hold on to.
Speaker 1: Yep. All right, so yeah, that's how everybody finished. And yes,
when it comes to like who does well and who
does poorly, there weren't a lot of surprises except for maybe,
as you said, Carl, and theo went out instantly. He
just sort of couldn't get the right grip and the
bottom went out and they're done well. The surprise.
Speaker 3: Before that was Era four was entirely banking on Kyland
the calculator to sail through all of these math questions
and get every single thing right. And then they only
got fourteen of twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of they were.
Speaker 3: They were a little like, uh, what's happened here?
Speaker 1: Dude. It's weird because as it flashed the screen. I know,
it's different when you're there and you know whatever was
the stressed anxiety, but I got almost all of them
they showed on the screen without yeah, really trying that hard.
It's like these things.
Speaker 3: Like the square root of thirty six or the square
root of forty nine, or like there was one that
was I think it was like five times two times six.
I mean it was. It was just a bunch of
things where it was like these aren't these aren't hard?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems it seems weird that they didn't that
more teams didn't get more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I mean maybe it's the pressure and
all of that, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: It kinda also did a bad job on the hanging
aspect of it. Yeah, they kind of goes out quick.
Josh stayed on for a while, but it's because he
was cheating and staying out the container, so he got.
Speaker 3: Decube, he got called out.
Speaker 1: Yep. Casey didn't do so good. Like weirdly, nobody did well.
THEO got out right away, Olivia got out right away.
Speaker 3: Jenny Casey didn't better than everybody else on her team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even Casey, it seemed like she got maybe
four or five minutes. To Rachel, she got over.
Speaker 3: Five because it did flash at the bottom, like five
ten or something like that, so I think she got
five or six minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rachel Richard fifteen. Yeah, Rachel was up fucking
just up there forever.
Speaker 3: Rachel's loving forever. At one point in time, calls out,
you guys can just go.
Speaker 1: To lunch, yeah, David says. Jordan took two handholds as
opposed to two footholds in one handhold. Yeah. Jordan overestimates
his abilities sometimes, which I respect and appreciate, but also
it foxed him sometimes, and this was one where, yeah,
kind of it fucked him because, yeah, he didn't. Jordan
didn't do so good. Nobody did. Nobody did well, and
this except Rachel frankly.
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, everybody else, I mean they were all, I mean,
most people were under five minutes, yeah, but those who
hung out a little bit later were still under like
six or seven minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It seems like Rachel just destroyed everybody. She ended
up staying there for almost fifteen minutes, so she WENTJ.
Speaker 3: Of course, of course TJ pulled his uh tried to
do a double take on us. All. He starts it
off with you going first in the challenge is always
a bad idea unless you're Rachel.
Speaker 1: Right eight, and it's if it's Rachel, TJ. Just support this.
I support this entirely. H Era three is the is
the loser, so that's Tori and Nevin.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So for those of us keeping track at home, Rachel
is the only winner. She just who goes against Tory
and Devon who are definitely going in, and that, my friends,
is the rest of the episode is all about Rachel
deciding who is going against Tory and Devin.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I really I really enjoyed this, like really enjoyed this
episode because it was a there's all of the like,
it was all the gameplay, the social gameplay that we
have been missing. They totally like, I don't know, it
just it's all the social gameplay that I love me too.
It was it was about a bunch of people that
I'm like, God, I would love to see any of
them in. This would cost so much chaos. It doesn't
matter who it is, it's gonna cost so much chaos totally.
Speaker 1: So last season, Survivor went to ninety minute episodes and
Survivor added a bunch of this stuff that we're seeing
now of like, yeah, these weird little conversations that maybe
we don't see, but add a lot of kind of
context to other decisions that they make. And it's like
the challenge finally fucking gets it, and we we got
all these little segments of all these little conversations with people,
and then when you add them all up, you can
sort of see why they made these decisions and it
kind of all makes sense in a better way.
Speaker 3: Uh So, this is like, I don't I don't give
a shit about them talking about why they're there, or
like their Famili's bad comb or you know, I'm fighting
for whatever. I don't care about.
Speaker 2: Any of that.
Speaker 3: I do not care about any of that. I want
to see the game play in the house.
Speaker 1: Yep. And this is we get that this episode, Rachel
is very clear about like, here's why I want Laurel,
Here's why I might want Casey and the and then
like you have other people like in their ears and stuff,
and I don't know, I also really like this Zach
and he input on on on the these conversations.
Speaker 2: No, I think ultimately Rachel made the right choice. You know,
I was really worried there for a second it looked
like she might be trying to take the shout Laurel,
but uh, super excited when she chose to go after
the vacation lines.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean even just like the expansion of these
ninety minuted episodes where you get more of these conversations,
are you like, are you into these political conversations.
Speaker 2: I'm always in political conversations, I think, you know, I
think the past seasons we've complained about the ninety minute
episodes just because they've been slower seasons and like Noah's good,
But this season, I'm loving this. So I think it
really comes down to just the quality of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. Yeah, Yeah, I think it's also that,
like I know that we've gotten some of the gameplay
conversations in other seasons like thirty nine. I feel like
we got some, but we all just fucking hated the
hated the characters on it. She did not care. I
enjoy Yeah, this was just this was I really enjoyed this.
Speaker 1: I did too. I loved that during this season or
during this this like sort of portion of this show,
Rachel is just sort of sitting back. I think we
see her just she's just chilling and eat noodles or
whatever she's eating, and everybody's just coming up and just
fucking kissing her ass, and like Theo's coming up, like, oh,
your wind is so inspirational, Like what a what a
fucking competitor you are? Like everybody's just kissing her ass,
so they are.
Speaker 3: But if there is someone who deserves to have her
ass kicked or ass kissed, yeah, Rachel is one of
those people.
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I be of it that these people
are begging.
Speaker 3: Rachel earned this shit over twenty five fucking years. She
has earned this shit more than almost anybody in that house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put in my notes. Rachel is loving it.
You can tell. Even in these scenes where people are
kind of just fucking kissing her ass, She's just sort
of smiling like, yep, fucking what you got tell me
what you got for me. Oh, I love Rachel.
Speaker 3: I do have to say that, Like when when the
producers tried to kind of pull a fast one and
make us think that she was considering going for someone
other than like basically throwing Ran and Laurelin. There's no
way in hell. She and Ryan have been friends for
twenty years and her and Josh's little friendship because she's
his trainer of the last year, is not gonna trunk
that shit.
Speaker 1: Yep, Like, come on, yep, it's speaking of which. Yeah,
this is when we first revealed that Josh is, yes,
friends with Rachel outside of the show. He's been, they
work out together, they both live in Miami, so they
are friends outside of the show previous to the show.
I'm not sure if we've known that before now, but
now we know it.
Speaker 3: I don't think we have. I mean unless you follow Josh,
which why would you?
Speaker 1: No, who follows Josh? I do dumb ass all right?
Speaker 3: Guys, club night and so and so.
Speaker 1: THEO telling Olivia that he's like into her. Gross, don't
need this, don't need don't need this. You I'm so
happy to have met you. Bar Come on, come on,
grow up. We don't want to see the ship. Uh.
This is when we see more more kissing of Rachel's ass.
Casey comes up to Rachel talks about how they've had
this unspoken thing and they want she wants to continue
this unspoken Uh.
Speaker 3: This is where this is where Casey's gameplay is complete.
But like, how the hell did she make it through?
Big Brother?
Speaker 1: Like, right, what is this?
Speaker 3: You can't you can't have a social game if your
social game is unspoken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're full of ships.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not a social game.
Speaker 1: I fucking knew right away that she's full of ship.
And then like her talking head, Rachel's like, yeah, Casey's
full of ship. I've never spoken to.
Speaker 3: This one, which is why it's unspoken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: It was so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I know there's much to defend there.
I mean, I think, you know, I'm big brother. She
was someone that was friends with ever one, even the
people in the opposing alliance, and so I think, you know,
really her friendship carried her in a lot of ways
where she's like, yeah, like we're not working together, but
also like, you know, I'm not directly coming after you,
so like we're good, and I think she tried to
pull that on Rachel and just did not work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Itel.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like Casey is one of those people
who doesn't seem to have grown from her original show.
Like the Challenge House is not the Big Brother House.
Speaker 1: Yeah's different games.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's she's won the Challenge. If it's not broken,
don't fix it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like she's a chance. So it's like, who
can criticize but she It is weird that she's like
she doesn't exist to me until she's bothering me and
then it's like, what the fuck, why are you talking
to Rachel, like like you know her?
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly her, her win is so not memorable to
memorable to me, Like I have to be reminded every
time that she's a champ.
Speaker 1: Because she doesn't exist, dude, she like and I'm sure
she's a perfectly nice person, like everybody seems to love her,
so I'm sure, But as a TV character, I don't
remember anything that she's done at all, Like I just
don't remember her.
Speaker 3: I agree. There were so many parts of this episode
that made me cackle too, Like God, this this episode
was great I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I think so too. So they're still at the bar
night here, Rachel's making her rounds or I should say
more people are just making the rounds to her, including Kyland,
and everybody kind of says what you'd expect them to.
Kylon's thing is basically like, hey, we're gonna win more
so we can help you, so you should favor us,
which you know, he says that later.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just everybody's kind of begging Rachel for some attention here,
which I which I liked. Devin though, says that he's,
you know, not super worried, but he is like he
doesn't think that they're gonna get who they want, which
is Ryan, who he wants, which is Ryan. And so
he's kind of prepared to go home, and he tells
Michelle like, yeah, if I get sent home, I'll just
go to the Philippines. I'll wait for you.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Devin's and Michelle Carlin are you into this relationship Devin
and Michelle? Do you sha?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't get I did find it funny last episode though,
when Devin calls himself out for the like I've always said,
don't have a relationship in the house. While I'm doing that.
I've always said, don't throw yourself in while I'm doing that.
I found that entertaining.
Speaker 1: But we'll see where it gets him. Yeah, spoiler, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think Kevin Michelle are fine. Like I don't.
I don't love it. But that's what didn't annoy me,
Like I just they exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of how I feel. I don't I
don't care, they're fine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then Rachel we see her talking to Laurel, who
kind of gets in Rachel's ear. Although I think that
Rachel's going to make this decision either way, but at
this point, Laurel tells her like, hey, I'm not aligned
with anybody. I don't have any alliances or allegiances. If
you want to work with me and make this decision, like,
we can just go to the end together. If you
trust Laurel. This is good, right, Guys, what do you
think if you're Rachel, do you take this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you it was I think it
was Ryan. I can't remember when in this episode he
said it, but he was saying that basically Laurel's alliances
in the house, she doesn't have alliances in the house
she has Johnny, and he was saying that he thinks
that Johnny is only her alliance because Johnny is scared
of her, which I agree. So I don't know how
much you can actually, Like we have already seen Laurel
throw a challenge to get someone thrown into elimination, and
with the twist that's coming up, Like Rachel could probably
trust Laurel right now, Like if they were staying in
this eras thing as teams, she could probably trust her
for another few episodes. But I don't know that you
could go much farther than that, Like I think with
the with this twist of it going to single individual competitors,
I don't think that you can trust Laurel because I
think Laurel, if she were nominated as a target with Rachel,
she would she'd throw the challenge to like or if
Rachel was nominated as a target and she wasn't. Yeah,
if Rachel was nominated a target as a target and
she was not, I think she'd throw the challenge to
get Rachel in.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: So she's already proven that she would.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, so there's been a lot of
talk on these podcasts this season about like, and we've
discussed so far, why do so many.
Speaker 3: People should have a person right or Laurel.
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, why do people like her? Why did they
work with her? And the one things come up over
and over with different podcasts, different people. As they said,
if Laurel gives you her word, if you make a
deal with her, there's no one in this game that's
more loyal to you than she is. Now. If you
upset her, like betray her, she will never let you
live it down, and she will be against you for
the rest of your challenge life until you've like pissed
her off. If she promises you you can like take
it to the bank.
Speaker 1: I really think that because like, even though she did
definitely throw that challenge to get at Emily, they never
hadn't a friend deal. Yeah, so it's just forget that.
I do too. I did too.
Speaker 3: I can't if that was complete. That was so Yeah,
I have already gone on too much about how much?
Speaker 2: So I just like Laurel.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna, Yeah, we're done. We're back at the house.
This is where we get Josh and Rachel talking, and
this is the conversation that comes back to bite Josh
later where Rachel kind of is sort of bouncing these
id is off Josh and saying like, hey, I'm considering Casey,
and Josh is sort of like, Hey, whatever the fuck
you want to do, man is cool with me, That's fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then in his confessional he talks about how
you know, Casey is his ride or die and that
he would go to bat for her. But you know,
Rachel looks like she's really made up in her mind.
It's like, Josh, you're pulling the same ship that you
pulled last episode, that you've always pulled in this You
have made too many deals with too many people, and
you don't have a fucking backbone to stand up to anyone,
for even the people like your rider die Casey. Like
this is such complete and total horseshit. When you say
that you will stand up, Like, I don't know why
anyone allies with him because he does not hold his shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everyone else holds his alliance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all hold hold the alliance, but he cannot.
He never does.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they like Josh is a person, but
I think that it's starting to really sink in on
all of them, Like they can't play the game with him,
Like he's not. He's gonna do this every since he's
done it every season, he's gonna keep doing every episode. Yeah,
Zach would either.
Speaker 2: I I like Josh. I think Josh is doing well,
and so here's I think. I think the Vacation Alliance
came in and most of them said, here's the game plan.
We have the vacation Alliance. If that doesn't work, we
have nothing. Whereas Josh comes in, he's like, I got
the vacation Liance. If that doesn't work out, bananas, that
doesn't work out, Rachel. So my only thought earlier was
I just wish he'd own it more like, yeah, it'd
be sapt to whiney baby, just own him, like, hey,
like I got my people they thought about that would
work for this season, and that would do great.
Speaker 3: But then that's but he doesn't actually have the vacation
alliances back he vacation Alliance and then all of these
other people. He has all the people underneath his actual alliance.
So saying that he has multiple alliances.
Speaker 1: Just but Zach, what you're saying is that if he
owned that, that would be an acceptable game plan.
Speaker 3: Own to have everybody else's back before his actual alliance
is back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Owned, Hey, I've got Vacation Alliance behind me, I've got
Rachel behind me. I've got these people behind me.
Speaker 3: The Vacation Alliance. Like to Zach's point, the Vacation Alliance,
everybody else in the Vacation Alliance, Vacation Alliance is number one.
And to Josh, theoretically the Vacation Alliance is number one,
and then Bananas and Rachel and whoever else are two
three four five six.
Speaker 2: See he.
Speaker 3: But he has absolutely no problem not going to bat
for the Vacation Alliance at all and going to bat
for two three four five six when Vacation Alliance is
up for elimination.
Speaker 1: Wait, he's not gone to bat for anybody. Josh doesn't
go to bat for.
Speaker 2: That's my point is, I don't think it's Vacation Alliance
wants us to do. I think it's, Hey, Vacation Alliance wins,
then they're number one. If Bananas wins, then Banana's the
number one. If Rachel, Rachel's my number one.
Speaker 1: Yep. That's that's Josh's approach of percent Yeah, that's true.
That is owned. If he owned that, if he took
that to the confessionals, and we was just like, yeah,
that's this is what I'm doing. I'd be fine with that,
But he does this ship where it's like, oh, I'm
so torn, I don't know what to do this lose
a friend.
Speaker 3: My issue is that he acts like he's got the vacation.
He's got Vacation Alliance is number one, and he will
always go to bat for them. He acts like that
is always his number one, but he never backs it
up because he's that.
Speaker 1: They're all number one, they're all number one. He says
that Rachel's my number one, she's my trainer, she's my
number one. I'm always there for her.
Speaker 2: And this is why I'm okay with him. Not only
the more I thought, I'm like this is good because
if he came out and basically said fucking mess no,
because if you have basically said, like, Vacation Line's not
my number one, I'm finally screwing them all over. It
might work this season, but they're gonna see that when
it aired and they're like next year, they'll be like, well,
screw you, Josh. But if he's like, oh, I don't know,
like I'd like, oh, like Josh is so sweet and dumb,
like we're mad at him, Like she's a probable guy
and we can trust him next season.
Speaker 3: But they can't. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, David.
Speaker 3: David in the chat room says, well, Josh has too
many friends and alliances. The same is true for Tory
in the USA season when she had so many friends
and alliances that she couldn't make any decisions in her
boats either. That's why she and Jordan had a huge
falling out that season. But yeah, she has, but she
got called out for the same ship that Josh is pulling.
And the problem is that Josh is never gonna learn.
Speaker 2: But also think, you know, Josh goes far every season.
I feel like he pulls this every season and they
keep plating him get away with it. So why is
he going to change it up?
Speaker 3: Because I don't know how much he's gonna be allowed
to get away with it. After this season gets a
lot of people wisen up to it.
Speaker 1: He gets away with a little less every season, and
I think eventually it's it's it's done. He's gonna wear
out his welcome. It's it's the walls are closing in.
I really do that, especially now we have even fucking
Casey calling him out and Corey and if Festi was
on the season, fest he probably would. Yeah. Uh anyway,
even Rachel. So Rachel after this conversation says he she
is also surprised that Josh didn't fight for Casey, as
Rachel is saying like, hey, I'm considering number one, and
Josh is like, hey, whatever you gotta do is you know, and.
Speaker 3: The confessionals he's sitting there like crying about how Casey
is his number one and he doesn't want her to
go home and he'd always go to bat for her,
like against anybody, he'd go to bat for her.
Speaker 1: It's just she's the reason, the bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's such a little bit. Yeah, he does not
have a backbone. He doesn't know how to stand up
to fucking anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I have to say during this scene, I love Rachel.
I think she's a badass and I think she is maybe.
I think I've said this on the podcast Hottest Body
of the of the Challenge for sure.
Speaker 3: Hottest fucking hot body. She walks, She's got to stick
up the rest though she walks.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's got the she's got the muscle walk like
she's got sort of like their shoulders are wide.
Speaker 3: And ship her shoulders are wide. She kind of does
the wattle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of, because it's like you just got
so many muscles you can't like fucking walk like.
Speaker 3: Well, it looks honestly, it looks like she's not like
she's got all the muscles, but she is not limber
enough to have a normal like she needs to throw
some yoga into her or plates something something to kind
of give her some some more fluid movement.
Speaker 1: My general point is that she's hot, and she wears
clothes that are are sometimes super weird, but always super hot,
with the exception.
Speaker 3: Of this fucking hot body.
Speaker 1: Yes, she does, with the exception of this scene where
she's wearing that weird tuxedo fucking thing with the weird
collar that like one collar is like way high. And
it's the one time in twenty.
Speaker 3: Years I'm like, leave, I think it's just a one
sleeve shirt.
Speaker 1: I don't like. No, no, no, no, it's a very
different thing, and I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna missed it.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's that whole thing with her on the couch
and it's what she wears the nominations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a one sleeve shirt, but it.
Speaker 1: Had a collar. The collar like one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was frilled. It was a frill. That was
a it was a it was a single, single sleeve
tank top. Don't that was a frill.
Speaker 1: Don't know. Hate it, hate it? It's grossed.
Speaker 3: I didn't actually mind that one. Rachel Caroline says, I
didn't walk about the violins yet. Oh no, we have
not talked about that, sony. It took me a minute.
It took me a minute to figure out what you
were talking about with the violins. No, we have not
talked about the violins.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's about.
Speaker 2: It'll come up later.
Speaker 1: Worry about it.
Speaker 3: It's we're still we're many, many many minutes away from that.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we're in no nominations. Uh, don't say my name, bitch,
I'm not gonna find the thing.
Speaker 3: Nominations.
Speaker 1: Uh. So, to recap, Rachel is the lone decider. She's
going to decide who goes against Tory and Devin, who
are definitely going, and her choices are.
Speaker 3: And she doesn't even have to bring it back to
her team and pretend like her team made the decision.
It's literally just her.
Speaker 1: It's all her, there's no men women, like, it's all
it's just her. She's deciding between Casey and Kyland or
Laurel and Ryan. In terms of their cases. Ryan's case
is basically like, hey, you're my number one. I'm your
number one, Like that's it.
Speaker 3: You know, I've always been my number one like you
have since the moment we set foot in this house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Laura basically says like, I don't have an alliance.
You're my alliance now if you, you know, pick me
instead of them. Casey's case is basically like, hey, we
haven't targeted you personally, Rachel, we targeted Era one but
not you personally. It was always just your era but
not you personally. That's Casey's case. Not a great argument, Nope.
And Kylan's case is basically like he Era four is
more likely to win in the future, and so if you,
you know, play to our strengths, we will save you later,
which is Kylin's That's like fucking whatever he says, right,
that's what everybody says. Also not very convincing. No, what
do you think, Zach, Zach? Is there a better argument
for either of these teams? Okay, if you're if you're Kyline,
what do you say?
Speaker 2: I think you gotta go to her And basically you
need to throw the vacation line Sidner the bus and
be like, listen, I know I'm on the outside with them,
so like you can't trust that, trust me, no to
to to uh Rachel, because.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying Laurel would say this because Casey can't
say that she's.
Speaker 2: On the basically like I'm on their era, but like
I know that, I'm like, once you guys are gone,
I'm disposable to them. They're taking each other over me.
And so you know he needs to sell himself as
a weapon for her, like I'm more dependable than you
know Laurel is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think that's true too, because I think
heart of Hearts Rachel probably knows Laura's not super dependable reliable.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and then on top of that, like if
you look at the eras, who has had the more wins?
Era four has had more wins, so they do have
a higher chance of having more wins going forward, even
though RA two has come in second almost every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but really, if you're if you're Rachel, you probably
think individual game is coming right, Like you can't. This
is not a matable game. So yes, I think that
part of Rachel's thing is like, well this this era four,
era three ship, like this is not gonna matter soon.
It's all about sort of personal relationships. So nobody else
really has any good any good plays. I think Rachel
knew what she was doing going into this nomination. I
think probably all of us did if we looked at
this logically, I don't think there.
Speaker 3: Was any way in hell that she was about to
throw Ryan down there. Ye honestly, like out of out
of everybody, out of all of the map that they
could have had, the only one they you probably could
have called the outcome for would have been Ryan versus whoever. Well,
I take the back. Jesus wasn't a fit. I take
that back. I take it back, I retract him, ignore me. Yeah,
this was a yeah, with the game that they played,
anybody could have done it. But like if you just
sitting at that table, like at least for the win
it With the women's side of things, Tory, Laurel, and
Casey physically all three have done really well in games,
really well in the in the show, game wise, not
necessarily strategically wise, but game wise, all three have done
really well. And then for the men like Kyland and Devon.
Devon's been a sleeper for years. He finally pulled out
his big championship a few years ago. Kyland has done really,
really well, and Ryan has always kind of been a
fluff player. But with the equalization games they've had, equalizing
games they've had in the last years or last few years,
like he has, he stands a real chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, getting to the final, I don't think
is gonna win the final.
Speaker 2: I do know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the elimination, like the immediate elimination. He
stands a real chance.
Speaker 1: Kylein's gonna be a chance if this if this show
keeps going on, Kyle Kylin will be a champ. Ryan,
I don't think. Oh yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3: Think will be a champ in the next few years
for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just Kyle. I mean you just know it, right,
like anybody that's good at everything, and Kylin seems to
be that good at everything.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he needs to work on a social game
a little bit, but he's like he's got the he's
got the physical game down, he's got the the challenges down.
He's got the eliminations down.
Speaker 1: He needs to math, good at swimming, Like, it's just
he's a well rounded and he's a well rounded dude.
Speaker 2: I mean, we think he's good at math. He kind
of struggled today.
Speaker 3: No, honestly, if he was the only one answering any
of the questions on his team, then he probably is
good at math because all the other teams look like
they had at least like they had one player, but
then others were helping.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: And to win, you only have to be a little
better than average. Yeah, to win, you know, just if
math is his worst point, like, that's not bad. Well,
as we say, Rachel makes her decision and then she
goes and does the right thing and tells them right.
So she goes and tells Casey, and you know, Casey
and Kyland, and they both sort of just like fucking understand.
I think they're both super cool about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they had to know that was coming, Like,
they had to know that it was going to be
a fucking long shot for her to be willing to
put in Ryan.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And so for their part, they don't blame Rachel. It
seems they blame Josh, and so this is where we
get the fights between Josh, Devin, Michelle, Olivia. They're all
talking about how Josh has confused loyalties and therefore makes
things very hard for the rest of his alliance. Devin says,
the Josh's game is sloppy. It's just this is the
Josh Pylon part of the episode. Zach, would you like
to defend Josh?
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I kind of did it
earlier that Yeah, I think I think Josh is playing
what you know, we call him Big Brother, the floater
game where you just you kind of have alliances all
over the house and you float to whoever's in power,
And right now Rachel was in power, and he just
floated over there and was like, Hey, that's.
Speaker 1: Not a bad strategy for and I don't watch Big Brother,
but that's not a bad strategy for like a survivor,
for example, when you just have to get to the
end and then you have to plead your case. But
a game like the Challenge where you have to keep
coming back and then go on vacation with the people
that like, you're not defending, you're not actually like vouching
for Uh, I don't know I'm not sure this is
a great game for Josh.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean being that this is a game where
you come like the goal is not just to make
it to the end. The goal is to continue to
come back.
Speaker 2: They it.
Speaker 3: You need to have that, you need to have that
alliance of people, and you need to stick with your word.
You can't just Nellie t was another one who did
this all the fucking time. He'd make alliances with like
seventy different people during the games. Yeah, and then hed
to be like, oh, I think.
Speaker 1: But Nellie's one that learned right because by the last
seasons he threw himself in to save Corey because I
think that was like his thing of like, I.
Speaker 3: Have to like one season they're doing that.
Speaker 1: Is eventually until he eventually learned if Josh ever doesn't
even know I will learn the thing.
Speaker 3: I think that's just a he he was trying to
make up for some ship with Corey.
Speaker 1: Well that's fine, Josh, that too. Josh needs to make
up some ship with Corey right now.
Speaker 2: In fact, But like I said, he's done this several
times in the past and thus far he's had minimal
blowback from it. So I think until he goes on
the season, and they really like gun out after him
early and hard. I don't think he's gonna like I
think he's gonna be like, why not keep doing it?
I don't get any major blowback.
Speaker 3: I just really want him to get major blowback. Carolyn, Caroline,
the violins, don't worry. We will talk about the violins.
But it's not there yet.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Violins.
Speaker 3: Oh it's great, all right, yes, so now we are.
Speaker 1: Into uh elimination paybacks A bitch, bitch uh so Devin Tory.
They go down there obviously they're in the sand and
Rachel throws and Kylin and Casey to the surprise of
absolutely no one. And this game is called Cable Connection Showdown. Zach,
explain this game? What's this one?
Speaker 2: That is a great question? What is this one? Again?
Speaker 3: This one is there? Each each contestant has two stands
with a bunch of cables wrapped around.
Speaker 2: That gets it now, I kind of remember like Pact Sentences,
they have like a jumbled pile of wires and like
there was a board with all the seasons on it
and you had to like untangle your wires and plug
them in to light up all your seasons.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Each of the cables had a different plug on it.
It was like twenty two thirty ant plugs and one
ten ant plugs and plugs from different countries and plugs
from the US, and you had to plug them into
the right plugs. There were extras on the board and
each plug was it would carry over for two of
the seasons.
Speaker 1: I took almost no notes during this, but during the
Kyland versus Devin thing, Kyland just fucking killed it, discrusted
it had.
Speaker 3: Some weird like he was. He made the point of like,
it's not how fast you do it. It's going to
be getting the right plugs in the right spots, but
it's kind of a combo of both. You still have
to untangle everything really quickly. Because Devon was doing like
one plug at a time and trying to like fish
it through this big giant mess of cables, whereas Kyland
and the girls did this later, or the ladies did
this later. They just started like pulling all of the
cables and trying to untangle everything at the same time,
and then once they got one that was a little
bit lucid, they grabbed that one and fish that all
the way through and throw it over, whereas Devon was
just doing like with everything still like all tight and
bundled up, tried to like fish things through, and Michelle
and Tory and Jordan and everybody else from his alliance
are standing up on this state on the up in
the stadium like what the fuck are you doing? Why
are you going so slowly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, David in the chairm says Devin seemed ready to
go home and like he didn't try, and that's kind
of I kind of agree he was. He watched Kyland
that fucking tear through this thing and do way better,
and he's still standing there thinking like, oh, if I
just keep going slow, I'll do well. Yeah, yeah, buy it.
Speaker 3: In his after after the episode little interview he does,
he starts it off by saying, that was a fucking blowout,
no denying it was an absolute blowout. And it's truly,
I mean, at least he think Devin's one of those
people that's always kind of been able to call that
shit out for himself, like he's usually pretty self aware
about that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Which he said it even the same TJ said something like,
great job. Everybody except Devin, and Devin was just like
he just laughed and whatever. And I do agree with David.
It just seems like he didn't give a ship, you know,
which is.
Speaker 3: What I think he knew after a few minutes, he
knew that he did the wrong strategy and just could
not recover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yet.
Speaker 3: Kyland hits his button for the first time to light
up his board and see if he's missing anything, and
he's got like four that are that are not lit up.
And then Devin goes for his board and he's got
four that are lit up. Yeah, and it's just like, dude,
you were so fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just I also don't think, uh, he tried
that hard.
Speaker 3: Frinkly, No, he didn't.
Speaker 1: The Casey and Tory thing seemed a lot closer. I
do think they were both actually really trying.
Speaker 3: I don't think there was any and they both went
at it like they they really pushed themselves to try
and get all of this undone as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: Yep. I don't think any Shenanigan's happened on the women's side.
Speaker 3: Frankly, I don't think so either. It came down to
the wire. They both they you know, fixed some things,
and then Tory was about two steps in front of
Casey and just happened to hit her buzzer to light
up her whole board correctly, you know, literally half a
second if that before Casey's yep.
Speaker 1: So Tory wins and Kylon wins and.
Speaker 3: Violins.
Speaker 1: What's this? What's the violence?
Speaker 3: It cuts from TJ saying that Tory has won, to
all of a sudden, you get these sappy violins, the
saddest song ever, and it cuts to Josh in Professional
crying about his rider die.
Speaker 4: Casey is going home and she's the reason I'm here,
and she's my sanity in this game, and I just
I just like to be near.
Speaker 1: Her and I want to be with her.
Speaker 3: He's just crying and he's it's such horseshit because he
did not try at all to keep her in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was very did not try at all. This
seemed very much as just sort of like playing up
to the camera so that he could say later like
see Casey, I like, I fucking cried. But the this was.
Speaker 3: So fucking good because it was so obvious that the
editor saw this and we're like, this is some bullshit.
We need to call this out. Let's put the sappiest music.
We possibly can focus entirely on him, even though we
just had two people win this game, win these eliminations.
Forget the winners for right now, we need to focus
on Josh God. And it was just Chef's kiss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good. Fuck Josh, Yeah, yep, and yes, and
even at like he's he's like crying up there on
the stage, or even like Casey and Devin are just
laughing and like they don't see, like they don't really
give a shit. It's also about the same time infected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is also about the same time that we
get a confessional from Casey, and maybe it was right
after they actually walked off. We get even confessional from
Casey saying that she kind of mentioned it earlier on
in the episode, but she says it again like Josh
doesn't have the back of his alliance, and I think
it's time to kick Josh out of the vacation alliance.
Like you can't play a game with him because he
doesn't actually hold up his end of the deal when
it comes to you being his ride or die. So
I think it's time to not play this game with
him anymore. And it seems like this is kinda fucking
loved it.
Speaker 1: We've not gotten anything so like blatantly honest from other
people out of this alliance, right, they're just sort of like,
I can't Josh anymore, like I came.
Speaker 3: From Casey right after Josh has this scene of just
crying about the fact that she's going home. Yeah it oh,
it's great.
Speaker 2: It's not. I fully expect if we ever see them
back on a show again together, Casey's gonna have Josh's
back completely, So I mean, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's always goes. He's gonna make up. They're gonna make
up in the off season, and it'll be fine. I
think she might be a little bit more wary of him,
but I think it'll still be fine. Caroline in the
chat room says it's her favorite moment of the entire
season so far. I agree, I fucking loved it and
maybe not favorite, mam, but it's definitely like top five
of this season, and that it will only be surpassed
by when Laurel gets her come up. And because I
refuse to believe that she doesn't, I same girl, same
I hope she doesn't hope that Laurel eats shits coming up.
Speaker 1: God, that'd be great, Carl. And she's on my fantasy league.
So I want you to fucking go fuck yourself and
all I got left fuck, I got left players, Ryan, Ryan,
anything Ryan fucking counts as anything. Please all right, Well
that's it. So, uh, we know that they lose, and
TJ says, you know, hey, it's time to pick the targets.
But then he says, actually, and then big dramatic pause.
Everybody freaks out. I think it's time to switch it up.
Speaker 2: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Everything.
Speaker 1: It always changes everything. So guys, we are not in
a team game anymore. We are in now into an individual.
Speaker 3: Game, but still kind of going for our teams.
Speaker 1: Still doesn't make a whole lot of sense carrying the
flag of your era, as TJ says, But now.
Speaker 3: Does that just mean that they still have the same
colored shirts on as their era?
Speaker 1: But isn't this isn't the challenge? Great? How we're nine
episodes in and we're still like, we don't know how
this fucking game is played. This is how they.
Speaker 3: Because if they're carrying the flag, the way that I
interpreted is this is if they're carrying the flag for
their for their era, then they are still somewhat on
a team for their era, but they're competing individually, so
they're not. I'm very confused.
Speaker 2: I thought it or just I thought it was more
just a theoretical thing of like, hey, if you win,
then your your era gets bragging, right, so like you
were the best era. I don't think it's actually going
to impact how they have to play together going forward.
Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if there's something weird, like if
your if somebody from your era goes in and you win,
you can like swap out or something like. I wonder
if there's something else. But you know, we're not gonna
We're not gonna find out until it happens. That's how
this game is played until next week.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, yeah, I don't know. We'll see because
the mid season trailer didn't give any real clue as
to what's happening next week. It was a midseason trailer.
Shit was a combination of the next like I guess
eight weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But what we did learn is that there is
still a target scenario. The winners still pick the targets,
but where it stops is you pick the the opposite
gender of you, right, and you can pick three of
those opposite genders of any era, even your own no.
Speaker 3: Of anybody up there, right.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that same words that includes.
Speaker 3: People who were targets last week, which we do up
until this point. He said anybody, he said anybody, and
he did not give give any exclusions if you cannot
pick this week's targets. So I assume the way that
he the way that he phrased it because I was trying.
I was wondering if Laurel was going to get called out,
because that would be two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: Well Ryan did get called out two weeks in a row,
so you are right, Yeah, so there you go, because
the yeah torix, Derek, Ryan and bananas, and Ryan.
Speaker 3: Says anybody up there, And I was I was really
focused on Laurel, on whether she was going to get
called or not.
Speaker 1: I was focused, I guess I was focused on like
of your own era, not the previous target thing. So yes,
this is and Ivive even says, like, all she has
to do is sort of not be the most hated
woman of the person that's the you know in the
dirt and uh and but in this case, she is
one of those hated people because she is nominated by Klan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's more. I think it's less
she's hated by Kylan and more she's a non entity.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I think we're going to see her try
to make friends. I think she's tried to. She seems
like hidden. I don't even know who of Eva is, and.
Speaker 3: I wonder if she's hidden because there have been so
many big players in this game, and there's so many
big personalities that have just kind of they've needed to
dominate up until this point because they went out earlier
in the season and they needed to kind of show
their stories. Because she showed up a lot in the
mid season trailer. So I wonder if she's going to
be We're going to see more of her because she's
now like they're able to focus on her story a
little bit more.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. So the targets next week Derek, Ryan,
Bananas for the men, Rachel Aviv and Jenny for the ladies,
and then we see the Karma vote. I don't know.
I don't know how much to say about the Karma
Vote until we see how this pans out. I have
a question, open question, mostly for you, Carlin, but all
Caroline is also in the chat room, so also for her,
it's defin and attractive. Man, would you swipe? Would you swipe?
Would you swipe left on this guy on the on
the on fucking hinge? Which when do you use Carlin
your a hinge looks like.
Speaker 3: A frat boy. He looks like a frat boy.
Speaker 1: He's got very uneven facial features. Mandy's man.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think personally, if you got to know him,
then maybe, but yet, just first glance, he's not really
my type.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see, I don't see. I don't know Devin,
I don't know. I don't see it with Devon, yeah,
that's just me.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But he says that Michelle is about to get a
five in more ways than one. So I think we
know how big Devon's penis is. And that's it for
the episode. Christ just reading between the lines, that's all.
Uh yeah, five inches If that wasn't clear, guys, five inches,
we got that.
Speaker 2: We got that.
Speaker 3: Ere Yeah, I totally did not take that. I just
did not even. It went over my head entirely. I
also wasn't really paying attention when he was talking.
Speaker 1: So because he's so attractive, No, but he's just watching
so attract and also he's so attractive. Well that's it, guys. Hey,
we didn't have Wolfe on this episode. Should we have
mentioned that, Carlyn? You got really offended. We didn't mention
that with you. Should we mention Wolfe was not here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolfe was not feeling very well today, so he
did not participate. Hopefully he will be back next week.
And he also didn't join in the chat room. And Zach,
you were gone last weekend. You didn't join in the
chat room either.
Speaker 2: I did not.
Speaker 3: I at least I at least had a good reason
as to why I didn't join the chat room because
you guys were talking. The podcast was being recorded at
like two am London time. There was no way in
hell I was staying awake for that ship, no dedication. Jeez,
that's the guy who didn't join last week, who was
still sitting in Peoria.
Speaker 1: I've recorded every episode. I just want to say that,
just been here every episode of this season, just saying that,
and last two and David says it could be four
inches and a thumb in the butt. Thanks David. We
needed that comment on this episode. I don't I'm not
used to hosting What's next, what do we do.
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Do we have any social media sects?
Speaker 2: We have? Yeah, we have quite a few things. First off,
a few days ago, Justine from the UH in the
World Championship season.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 2: She attended a fancy event with Rihanna.
Speaker 1: What of it?
Speaker 2: Fenty fenty?
Speaker 3: It's when of Rihanna's brands fenty Yeah, fi n t y.
Speaker 1: What's it? What do they make? What's fenty?
Speaker 3: They make lingerie, they make makeup. It's a brand of
a bunch of different things for women. Well, uh and
the is uh.
Speaker 2: Georgia was on the cover of this month's issue of
Fabulous Magazine.
Speaker 1: Looking Hot.
Speaker 2: Yes, we got a cryptic, weird tweet from Durrell earlier
this week on X asking if any family lawyer attorneys
are out there to please d m him. I think
that if he might if you have in trouble in
paradise with the family.
Speaker 1: Because Laurel started some ship about him getting a massage
from Jenny or something.
Speaker 3: I really hope that's not the from Emily. I really
hope that's not the reason, because that looked so non
sexual in any way, shape or form. I really hope
that didn't set things off.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: No, eventually or we want Earlier this week in uh
Kansas City, West hosted a twenty year Real World Austin meet.
Speaker 2: Up got the cast from the Real World back to
here minus Danny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, oh where's Danny and Johan?
Speaker 2: They said that Danny was invited but couldn't make it.
They didn't speculate why Johanna wasn't there, So.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that'd be weird for Wes's wife.
Speaker 2: That could that could be it?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Danny and Melinda were married.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I figured at first they just chose Melinda
over him, but then they did. They did tweet out
that Danny was invited, couldn't make it, but they did
FaceTime him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes I mean, that's that makes sense. Like Carlyn,
you would invite let's say, let's say Gareth is living
with you, you would invite two friends that used to date,
but you might not invite your ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I don't talk to any of my exes, and none
of my friends talk to any of my but none
of my friends talk to any of my exes.
Speaker 1: Like, but it'd be friends and then that friend's ex
not yours.
Speaker 3: But this isn't this is a completely different thing because
these are this is a group of celebrities or celebrity
adjacent people who they they are doing this partly for
publicity and partly for themselves.
Speaker 1: They're also real humans and for her and.
Speaker 3: No I realized that, but they also like these people
all still talk to each other. Whether I'm not saying
that he and Johanna talk, but I'm sure she still
talks to everybody else in that group. So it's not
a weird thing for her to show up because she's
still friends with that. If I had my ex, yeah,
if no one talks to them anymore.
Speaker 2: I also think it could be a bit weird, Like
if they were doing it like at an MTV type
meet up, like you know, to celebrate, that'd be one thing.
What's happening in Kansas City at Wes's house, So to
like invite your ex into your house where your wife
and child lives, you might have been like, yeah, I
don't want to do that.
Speaker 3: Okay. It's also been twenty years.
Speaker 1: The house could have said that Wes, you know, like
it's gonna respectful your spouse.
Speaker 3: It's been twenty years since they were like shit, it's
been eighteen since they dated, Hey, who are.
Speaker 1: You talking to me? You're talking of West kind of
both of you, to all of you.
Speaker 3: It just it's been eighteen years since they dated. There
this is a friend group where they are both individually
still friend as far as we know, individually, still.
Speaker 1: Friends with that entire that this is weird. Can you
really not see any world that this is a little weird?
It is absolutely weird. It is absolutely weird.
Speaker 2: When I when so like when I have.
Speaker 3: I have, I actually have multiple friends, as Denver who.
Speaker 1: You're about to be called out in a review for
talking over Zach solely exactly.
Speaker 2: When when I got married, Carly actually messaged us to
come to the wedding, and my wife I never did Carly,
but just because of like us being friends and Carly
being beautiful, my wife's like, absolutely not, She's not allowed
to come. So saying that Wes's wife could be like
absolutely not, I don't think that unreasonable.
Speaker 1: I kind of don't either. Wes like lives with Johanna
and ship like that's like a serious I don't. I
kind of get that that's weird to invite her, even
though it is.
Speaker 3: But I think this is also a different situation.
Speaker 1: But it's not you, right, somebody else.
Speaker 2: They have facetimed her like they do with Dan. All right,
So here here's a question we had earlier this week
on Jeopardy. See if any of you guys can get
this one.
Speaker 1: Casey nailed it.
Speaker 2: Incorrect.
Speaker 1: Oh damn it.
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, Casey Clark was the ultimate and head
of Household, winning half a million dollars on this reality show.
Speaker 1: Oh big Brother? Yeah, what is big Brother?
Speaker 2: What is big Brother? So keis Casey making it onto
Jeopardy this week?
Speaker 3: I don't feel like that counts as as challenge trivia.
I feel like that counts as our challenge social media
news count I think that counts as big Brother social
media news.
Speaker 1: I only know that because it showed up on the
Anthony Challenge subred I did not click through it, but
I saw the headline that said, like, oh, you.
Speaker 3: Said Casey okay.
Speaker 1: I said Casey shows up as a Jeopardy question, So
I was like, Oh, Casey's got to be the answer. No,
Casey okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: It's been announced that, uh, from November sixth to the
November tenth of next year, there is a challenge Cruise
to the Bahamas that you could go to where you
could go on age.
Speaker 1: And we're going to be there as a podcast.
Speaker 2: With Johnny Boys, Tory, Bessy, Nanny, Josh Mark, and Casey.
Speaker 1: Here we go, guys, we're doing it.
Speaker 2: I could go join the vacational line.
Speaker 1: We're doing it, waiting in line. Character Low's waiting in line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolfy and I will stay here. We'll watch you guys.
Speaker 1: Go do it. Me and Zach Zach me anybody.
Speaker 2: I do it like it's expensive. But then I saw
that's like a rate for two people. If we divide
it in half, it's not that bad.
Speaker 1: How much is it for two people?
Speaker 2: For like a room for two of us, it'd be
about twenty four hundred. It's about twelve hundred each.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, are not aware. Out of the out of Miami,
how many days it's four days?
Speaker 2: Like old. Let me pull the website back up, so.
Speaker 3: Gay, so I can think of so many better things
that I would rather do with my time.
Speaker 1: There's no better thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Out of leaves that have k Canaveral, Florida. The
first full day you spend the perfect day at cococ
which I believe is I don't know where that's at
it there on her Oh it's in the Bahamas, and
then another down sea, and then a day at the
Grand Bahama and then day five you get back to Florida.
Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, we're going. We're going.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, the cheapest room is twenty four one
hundred and eighteen dollars, so about twelve hundred each.
Speaker 1: Cool, we're doing it, Karan that we're going to.
Speaker 3: Share a room and usually share a bed.
Speaker 2: I don't know about sharing it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's usually double occupancy. I mean unless they do
single beds and like if they do two singles, look
double lot.
Speaker 2: Looking at the photos, it does look like, yes, you
share beds.
Speaker 1: Worth it, have fun boys worth it. We're doing it, Zach,
We're doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm in and you know, maybe they'll add more as
we get closer.
Speaker 3: Dam says on a cruise they can switch a double
for two singles.
Speaker 2: Okay, well there you go.
Speaker 1: There we go. We're doing it. We're doing it. What
else we get? We got to read reviews?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh, one last thing.
Speaker 2: We had the first two episodes air of Josh's new
reality show on Telemundo.
Speaker 3: Why are we talking about this called.
Speaker 2: Lost fifty because I have reason. Joh they started with
fifty people, they're down to forty six. Josh is still
in and uh Josh has started a relationship with Mexican
supermodel Jenny Dalla Vega.
Speaker 1: I saw videos and stuff of that. It looks super uncomfortable,
But if the challenge I'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Yep, me too. All right, we have the fantasy teams
to go over.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we got to do reviews first, Alight, always
go last at Carl Fantasy teams. Okay, fantasy. Let's like
Carlin digger on Grave and then and then we'll read
the reviews and Colin will regret everything that she said tonight.
Speaker 3: No, probably not. Zach, do you have the host league?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Am I winning? Am I winning? Please tell me?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 1: Some weird ways of averages. You only have what two
players now hold on Carl, Hey, Colin, don't fucking talk
about it, just don't call it out.
Speaker 3: So before before, before Zach does the points a minute,
he has two players, Laurel and Ryan a minute a minute,
I have four players, Chel Theo, Derek and Aviv. Wolfe
has four players Kara, Johnny, Tory and Naya. And Zach somehow,
somehow still has fucking eight players, all the rest of them.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing with Zach, Zach. You pick, you
pick shitty players, I think, hoping to get lucky. And
now you've had two really poor, poor weeks on the
on the public League. So I think you're getting lucky
on the on the draft. But the public League Ian strategy.
Speaker 2: Yes, my big strategy with the draft was I wanted
to get the strong people. I got. I gotta Jordan
and Jenny. And after that, like we knew that there
was a couple of showmances. I was like, all right,
it probably lasts long enough to like get into a showman,
so just go after them.
Speaker 1: So Zach Zach did have a strategy. Good for you, Zach.
Speaker 2: But yes, I but to answer your question him about
are you winning, I'm just let's say I'm Kylon and
the rest of you guys are Devin. This week it's
uh so in last place with seventy six points, it
is Tim.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, yes, of course, yes.
Speaker 2: Third place with eighty three points is Wolfie.
Speaker 1: Oh all right, I can overtake Wolfe. I'm on, I
can overtake Wolfe.
Speaker 2: Uh and get lucky.
Speaker 1: I get lucky A few times I can, I can
overtake him.
Speaker 3: You have a chance.
Speaker 2: Second place with eighty eight points is Carlin.
Speaker 1: No chance. I can't get that. I can't get that.
Speaker 2: And uh I am currently sitting at first with one
hundred and seventy points.
Speaker 3: That's what happens to You still have eight players two
our four, four and two.
Speaker 1: And when he makes up the fucking rules like of
course I could make I could win if I make
up the rules like those. And when you basically last
gets a thousand points, the player eliminated gets twenty million.
Oh I'm all the sudden winning guys.
Speaker 2: Or when you have all of ERA four and they've
won four hour of the eight daily challenges.
Speaker 1: Yeah that too.
Speaker 3: There's also that, all right. So in the public League,
first place is ct Phone Home with sixteen eighty five.
Second place is I Touched Johnny's Banana with sixteen sixty eight,
and I'm still sitting in third with sixteen forty three.
And then we've got.
Speaker 1: I'm the second place out of the host I gotta
say this, I'm second place out of the host yep.
Speaker 3: So we've got Big Uncle Sweet Tea at twenty second
with twelve ninety three.
Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks, Wolfie.
Speaker 3: Is twenty fifth with twelve twenty four and Zachie Bananas
is twenty ninth with eleven sixty six.
Speaker 1: So this week pathetic, last two weeks pathetic, pathetic.
Speaker 2: So I forgot to set my line up this week.
I remember two minutes before the cutoff, so I set that.
I didn't have time to do the the Money League.
Speaker 3: Yep, so the weekly budget is again big t phone Home,
I touched Johnny's Banana and then.
Speaker 2: Me and then.
Speaker 3: Zach You are an eighth on that one and big
Uncle Sweet teear end twelve.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take it. I'll take it. I'm coming up, man,
I'm coming up. Twenty second? Am I half?
Speaker 2: Am?
Speaker 1: I am I half? Half rank for the for the
Public League twenty seconds?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a little bit more than half because we've
got forty two people. Yeah. This week, though, this week
is gonna be like this coming week is going to
be real difficult for me to figure out. Like I
put my picks in, but I'm really unsure on a
lot of them because the mid season trailer it was
for like the entire next like eight episodes. It wasn't
just for next week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think people I think I've been slow playing.
I got a lot of good players left.
Speaker 3: You keep saying that, and you like, I have a
lot of good players left too.
Speaker 1: I keep coming up in the ranks. I'm just saying
I keep coming up, just saying.
Speaker 3: You just have to have to play your your big
players strategically.
Speaker 1: Well, all right, Carl, are you ready for a little I.
Speaker 3: Think change in the game. I'm I'm gonna be I'm
gonna be real fucked this coming episode. All right, yeah,
let's let's hear it. Give me all aviews.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have your thick skin coats on.
We got nothing bad reviews this time?
Speaker 3: Did we get?
Speaker 1: We got four Jesus between last week and this Yeah,
and only one is good and the good one is
only four stars. So guys, if you enjoy this podcast,
leave us good reviews.
Speaker 3: Bad reviews. Just get us five stars.
Speaker 1: Knock out these several people telling us to stop podcasting.
So let's get into this.
Speaker 2: This might be my fault. By the way, Oh shit, good,
I told you last week that like after was it?
They said some time? And I said last week about like,
oh the best Challenge podcast. I went on Twitter and
I was like, no, we're the best one. I was
promoting our podcast. There's probably people I pissed off on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Good that gives us some good, valuable context. Here, Les
Sombra seventeen says, time to end it. This show used
to be fun to listen to as something different than
the usual challenge podcast, but it's gone way downhill. Most
of the hosts don't most of the those seem to
have every season. Wait, hate every season, wait to typo,
you dumb bitch. We did well? No, I know, but
she said hated last season. Yeah, but this person that
have every season, So I'm just gonna make fun of
them because they're making fun of us. Hate every season.
They constantly argue with each other and complain about the show.
If you guys don't want to be here anymore, why
should we just end the podcast already?
Speaker 2: Boy?
Speaker 3: That's why we have this so that we can argue
with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know any argue, but I do not
hate the season. By the way, I hated last season.
This season I.
Speaker 2: Love this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this season is a lot of fun. I did
not like last episode, but I do like this season.
Speaker 1: I love this episode of this season has been just
banging the whole way through.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Spider Man four for four says maybe a break question mark.
I hate to write this. I normally really look forward
to this pod, but the Gladiator episode was not my favorite.
And the group kind of talks over Zach a lot. Uh,
and I really value his opinion, yea, Carlin's that's why
I called your ass out, Carlin.
Speaker 3: No so, and I do. I do try to actively
catch myself if I talk over Zach because so for
all the listeners for so that you were all aware
Zach's audio come because of his connection. Zach's audio comes
in a half a second late, so we don't actually
hear him talking until we have already started talking. So
most of the time we do all catch it, but
it doesn't happen all the time.
Speaker 1: And also there's a and Zach. This is not meant
to be offensive, but there is something about the video
being off that is like when we're seeing each other
we can sort of brace for like, oh, Carlin sat
up a little bit, She's like fredit to say something out.
There is some some bit of that. But with Zach,
I'm trying to be uh, you know, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: But also thank you too. Whoever left that for saying
the lake caring for me? I like caring for me.
Speaker 1: Too, Spider Amanda four for four said that right, and
spells your name wrong, so she's also a bitch.
Speaker 2: I'll forgive her.
Speaker 1: With a K. Zach, Are you offended? And people put
a K in there?
Speaker 2: I mean it's not my preferred spelling, but you know
I'll live with it. Are we sure? Now? Are we sure?
This is not former co host Amanda.
Speaker 3: Who always talked over everybody.
Speaker 1: That could be that could be? Oh s, I didn't
even finish reading this. The group Tien talks over Zach
a lot. I realize it. Please dismiss him less. That's
you Carling, Please dismiss him less. Uh And while I
get there are a lot of dumb things without innovative,
silly dailies and eliminations. The hate towards Derek Drell, Banana's car, Josh, Tori, Anissa,
Amanda Brad like, who are we really left with? Yes,
it's not a perfect season, but I will not go
back to thirty nine. I'll take Pitbull, Derek's squeaky chicken
feet and Casey getting exposed gladly before another workout montage.
Speaker 3: Loll.
Speaker 1: It's not that deep either way. Thanks for the content.
Speaker 2: It sounds like that person maybe does not enjoy I
think we gotta let them know that they wolf you
know that they don't enjoy the banana's negativity sound drops.
Speaker 3: They did, they did not mention bananas once in that
whole thing, bananas is not mentioned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're saying we changed. But listen, I
viewed these through like a very me centric lens. I
know that may fucking makes it's like a problem for me.
And yes, I've absolutely hated on Derek, but I don't
think I've hated and Anissa. I don't think I've hated
on anybody else, certainly not Brad. This person calls that
Brad hate.
Speaker 3: I think they're calling me out for the Brade.
Speaker 1: Not as they should. I mean, I but love Brad,
love Brad.
Speaker 3: You have loved Brad.
Speaker 2: I think I did say last week they like if
Brad was never on the show again, that would be
fine with me.
Speaker 1: So well, then Zach, go fuck yourself. Why does this
person like your opinions but then not like it when
you talk about Brad. Sorry Spider Amanda for telling Zach
to fuck himself with that opinion about Brad. But you know,
I take it very personally. We say people say things
about Brad. Jeez. Else and Nora comes into the one
star review for us no podcast worst. Thanks Else, Nora
for just for Yeah, it's just four people talking over
each other. I'd rather stand in line at Disney for
a small world listening to a family from the Midwest
argue about whatther mountain dew is better than diet PEPSI
let's talk. We lose then what we lose we lose
to standing in line and fucking Disney one great?
Speaker 2: But would they rather have the challenge Mania a question?
Speaker 3: Oh god. We have had some some conversations in the
last few weeks that have just been They've evolved into
ridiculous arguments that just do not stop. So there's that
I won't give them that.
Speaker 1: I blame you for that instigator. No, No, that's not
that's that's not that doesn't sound like me at all. No,
I don't do that. And this one, this one hits
very close to home. I wish Wolfe was here to
hear this one. Unhappy followed by a lot of numbers.
One star review says this pod was better with all
their ex wives. Wait, I'm not done. This new lady
talks over everyone and is you gotta carl it? There's
your you, This new lady, thank you frame that shouldn't
put under wall. This new lady talks over everyone and
is obnoxious. Yeah no, you're this new lady.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. If you guys thought those reviews
were unfair, please leave us better ones at wherever you
listen to your podcast.
Speaker 3: If you didn't think they were unfair, still leave us
better ones or leave us worse ones than just give
us five stars.
Speaker 1: And speaking of leaving us stuff, I mentioned last week
guys that we do not really get any voicemails we're
going to put on this record. We got one, and
I thought, I thought, hey, one genuine voicemail might inspire
other people who listen to this podcast to leave genuine
voicemails that we can put on this LP that I
keep talking about that was going to go for sale
this week. But then I thought we might get more
voicemails if I played this current voicemail.
Speaker 3: Is it any good?
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get to it in a second. But
if you want to leave us voicemails, please do seven
seven nine nine oh one oh seven three four seven
seven nine nine oh one oh seven three four. You
can leave us voicemails and we will put them on
this LP, and.
Speaker 3: Even leave us a voicemail of you hating our podcast
and just leaving your really really, really shitty review. We'll
put that on my sail and we will put that
on there.
Speaker 1: I have a song on the LP dedicated to negative reviews,
which maybe I should read you based on this one,
because Carl and you are obnoxious. Now we know that,
and I can include that in the Okay, So here's
our voicemail this week.
Speaker 2: Wait, hey, Challenge.
Speaker 3: This is super fan Heather.
Speaker 2: Been listening since the beginning to the World's Greatest Challenge podcast.
Love you You're amazing. Listen every week.
Speaker 1: Thanks, gonna be on the LP. She's been great and
really has been listening to us for almost a decade.
She's awesome again. Seven seven nine nine oh one O
seven three four seventh through.
Speaker 2: Does that number just go straight to an answering machine?
Speaker 1: Then it does. There's no hope that I will answer it.
If you want to call me personally. Three oh nine
three six oh nine O two seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, leave us voicemails. They can be a review of
the pod. They can be your take on the season.
They can be your funniest story about some random Challenger
that you happen to meet in an airport. They can
be the time that you got your haircut by Lee Roy.
You could be standing at Challenge Mania with a bunch
of people and call and leave a voicemail with Mark
standing next to you. It could be literally anything.
Speaker 1: Don't do the Zodiac Killer shit where you call and
tell us that you killed somebody and then leave us
at clue to how you did it Like that. I'm
not interested in that. I am anything revolving around the Challenge.
I mean I'm into that. If you want to call
Zac directly to the ether Zach tell us, tell us
your phone number if they want to call you the murder.
Speaker 2: Ship nine two seven two nine, all right.
Speaker 1: If you gotta, if you have to bury your body,
call that number. If you want to send somebody a
dick pic, Carlin, what's your phone number?
Speaker 3: No, all right, this is the difference between men and women.
Don't put that ship out there.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, we have a Patreon too, guys, Uh, listen
to me. I'm gonna I'm the world's worst host at
this ship. You get years and years with the after
show and pre show content. We talk about pumpkins this
time around. If you want to hear us talk about pumpkins,
that's how you do it. Uh, and you can do
that for five dollars a month, and also for five
dollars a month, we say your name, So thank you
to Elena, Alvin, Anna, Brian, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie, Laura, Martez, Maverick, Patty, Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah,
Sarah Scott says, shack shake our smiling stand Steven. It's
that's everybody.
Speaker 4: Thanks guys, you keep our lights on.
Speaker 1: Got through it in one breath. Thank you everybody. Also,
that gives you access to like the discord that Colin's
never on another ship like that, and uh yeah, that'll
do it? Is that anything do we do? Do we
do it all? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm not used to this cool chat room.
Hang out for a second, let me figure out how
to do this outro. And yes, as somebody said on
this episode, I got nothing, and we will see everybody
uh next week.
Speaker 2: Ch