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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to Challenge. The podcast all

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about MTV is the Challenge. My name is Big Uncle Sweetee.

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I'm joined, as per usual, by the other drinker in

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the group, Parlan san Diego, and the one who can't

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drink because he's at.

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Speaker 2: Work, Zachi Bananas.

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Speaker 1: We had a lovely conversation about pumpkin beer that is

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lost to.

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Speaker 3: The ether, pumpkins stuff in general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the pumpkin beer.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll upload it as part of the pre show.

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We'll have two pre shows for this episode, will be

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like four.

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Speaker 1: It'll be great. But they just want to hear about pumpkins.

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I'm sure of it. Yeah, it's pumpkin season though, guys,

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get those pumpkin spice lot. It's basic bitch drinks and

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it's great and it supports the next time over Morton, Illinois. Hey,

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what's up, everybady? Carl? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Oh? You know, not a lot? Getting ready for Halloween.

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We've had a one of my girlfriends is having her

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thirty first birthday this weekend, so she's seeming it after

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the movie Midsummer.

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Speaker 1: Watched that. I haven't seen that one yet.

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Speaker 3: I've heard it's like psychological thriller type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Ye, crazy deep, we're all wearing.

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Speaker 3: We're all we're all wearing white. Theoretically someone might be

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dressing up as a bear. Yeah, it should just be

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a fun night.

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Speaker 1: You're not the type of women that every woman is

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just a sexy version of the Halloween costume.

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Speaker 3: Well it's not really Halloween costume. And we did I

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mean you saw our We went out for a zombie

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crawl last weekend, and I mean, I guess a few

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of them were kind of sexy, but no, like, we're

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all in our late twenties and me and my late thirties.

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Speaker 1: But thank you. I was gonna point that out, but

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that's rude if I do it. All right, we're gonna

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just jump into this episode. What do you guys think

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episode nine?

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna ask Zach how he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Za's been sick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's think of besides that.

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Speaker 1: Just two in the countries cooking up with ladies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, basically it Yeah, you know, yeah, I didn't choose

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the pimp life. The pimp life chose me.

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Speaker 1: You did. Check. You did kind of choose it, though

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you embrace it a little bit. You pursue it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I do chase down those orgies.

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Speaker 1: We gotta change your name to Pimpy Bananas. Maybe Carlin

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Carlin Apprus Uh this guys, can you believe it's episode

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nine of this season? Can you believe it?

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Speaker 3: Can you know?

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. I think this season is great.

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I want to I just want to say that, Zach,

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I think you and I have been sort of the

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champions of this season.

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Speaker 3: No, I really like this season. I just didn't like

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the last episode. I thought that the challenge and the

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and the elimination in the lap last episode were shit.

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But I've really, I've really enjoyed this season. We're finally like,

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it's not like the last few seasons that have just

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been complete nutter bullshit the entire time, though I was

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a little the elimination. This episode was yet again another

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one of those like, oh, let's do it a game

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that anybody can do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, spoiler, we're not eywhere close to that yet.

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Speaker 3: But I know, but I'm just I'm real tired of

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the games that anyone can do. Part of the whole

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point of the challenge is that it's something is not

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fair in somebody's and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: My point is that we do actually have a lot

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of reviews this week. None of them are good. They

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are all very negative about all of us, and a

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lot of them focused on how down we are of

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the season. But I don't think that as reflective of

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us as a podcast because I am up on this

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episode this season. I like the season, and Zach, I

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think you've been on my team with most of this.

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Carlon and Wolfe, you guys have been the down you guys.

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Speaker 3: Have been this It's definitely a downer last episode, but

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I feel like overall I have enjoyed this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've been loving it too. You know. It's funny. Actually,

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I think it's great having back all these old bets.

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this week though, because they were talking about like a

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season forty one cast and there's all like Era four

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and new people, and I was like, oh, you gotta

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have the bets and they're like, no, like these vets

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sucked this season. I'm like, they're like, that's why thirty

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nine was like one of the best seasons. It shows up.

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I was like, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: They need to leave because thirty nine was shit.

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Speaker 2: I agree so like I think we you know, Tim

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we've been loving this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yes, I think it's like last episode. Listen.

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We'll get to the reviews later. But Carlyn, you are

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and I am to I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I have not letten a bad review yet. So it's

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about fucking.

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Speaker 1: Time you're about to obody.

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Speaker 3: About fucking time.

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Speaker 2: The listeners are with him and I. They loved watching

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a beat the crap out over?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I really didn't like last episode.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's let's let's make everybody hate Carlin

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a little bit more and dive into uh Go for

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episode number nine. This one's called an era.

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Speaker 3: Confident in Who I Am?

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Speaker 2: So are you? Well?

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Speaker 1: We're about to change that tonight. Let's fucking go. Uh

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We start off with a flashback this episode to my

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favorite season of the Challenge, Battle of the Sex Is.

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We get the flashback of Melissa yelling at Julie Carlin.

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Do you remember this? Are you a fan of the

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season from that far back?

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Speaker 3: I do really like that because that's the season that

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happened in Tell you're right, right, No, that was Jamaica,

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that's right, it was Yes for.

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Speaker 1: Knowing ship like this. Why do I know this? Because

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we do this ship this stupid so dumb. Why it's

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like fucking I have limited space in my brain and

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that's one of the things.

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Speaker 3: I know it happens. No, I, I honestly I didn't.

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season to Battle the Sexes, I totally forgot about that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch the show while you guys were doing

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the throwback I was just listening to the throwback episodes,

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this?

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Speaker 2: I do remember, I didn't really remember it until I

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saw it again. Then once I saw the clip, I

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was like, oh, yeah, I remember this moment.

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Speaker 1: Oh so good. And actually I emailed Julie while we

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I emailed Julie about this fight. Julie emailed me back

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and like went like super in depth. There was like

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racial shit involved in this fight between her and Melissa.

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It was like fucking intense. So go back and listen

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I remember you talking about her

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emailing back.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Julie emailed email me a big long thing,

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like a very in depth reply.

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Speaker 2: Very give you Julie's email, and I never never did.

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Speaker 1: Oh shoul I'll give it to you. It's like on

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the internet, dude, it's like not hard to find. And

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she emailed me back. I mean literally within a half hour,

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no doubt. Wow, she must have she must have got

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it and just started typing because it was like a

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Speaker 3: Watching these old ass episodes, all right, well here you

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Speaker 1: She claimed to not remember the fight, which is like,

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you're fucking full of shit. Of course you remember this fight,

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it was uh that Melissa dropping the I thought i'd

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let you know, like, I just love how she said that. Anyway,

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we should move past the flashback.

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Speaker 3: People that were not in the season.

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Speaker 2: Do you think she'd be one to talk about trying

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to kill Veronica Julie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a clip that gets shown like usually at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not so much.

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Speaker 3: In the more recent seasons, but if on that season,

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it definitely gets shown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to have some Julie, some crazy Julie

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representation on this this season. I love this Julie I did.

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She's so crazy. Though. Did you watch the back to

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New Orleans or whatever?

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Speaker 2: I did, which it was good, but also like I

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in the original New Orleans and they just didn't show it.

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Speaker 1: Some so Zach personal question, but is your conversion to Mormonism?

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knew of her being Mormon before you were Mormon.

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Speaker 2: Right, I did, Yes. I don't know if it impacted

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me at all. I remember I remember thinking how stupid

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of college for going on the show, and geedn't really

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mad at the Mormons for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous, Franklin. Yeah, but anyway, Hey, we're

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past the recap now, and Rachel and Corey is there.

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Can you believe it's only taken us ten minutes to

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get past that thirty second at the beginning second clip.

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Speaker 2: It's because I was just thinking she got kicked out

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of college for you know, sharing a house with men,

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and I'm currently going to colle sure by U and

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Speaker 1: So well, my impression was that it wasn't necessarily that

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she roomed with men. It was more just like sort

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like questioning her Mormonism and sort of rebellion.

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Speaker 3: Past this because it has nothing to do.

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Speaker 1: On this season. Carlin's done. Carlyn doesn't remember Julie.

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Speaker 2: No I do.

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Speaker 3: I just don't care about this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Remember when she took the short path and she fell

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right the fuck off that little bridge. That was great. Yeah,

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the road to God is straight and narrow something. Anyway,

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Uh so, Rachel and Corey they're coming back into the house.

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They're doing the cool boxing shit. I don't know. I

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usually hate when they come back into the house, but

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they own it this time. I'm kind of into this,

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and I love Corey and I love Rachel, so I'm

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Speaker 3: It was kind of fun watching Rachel, but walk back in.

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Speaker 1: Dude, this is Rachel's episode, right, Rachel is such a badass.

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She's so fucking cool and such a badass, and I'd

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loved it like this was her this was her episode

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where she represented the last episode.

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Speaker 3: Like there have been a few episodes where I feel

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like she's gotten a little like Derek esque. This episode,

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I actually liked it. Like this episode it really worked.

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Speaker 1: For I think it's because she's alone, yes, and it's

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sort of like nothing left to lose. She's just she

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can either be a whiny little baby or just be

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like fucking I'm just gonna go. And she's like I'm

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gonna go. And it's yes, I'm rooting for Rachel for sure.

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Ryan's a target, but so is Laurel. So Ryan feels

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a little safe because Laurel's gonna try to win, but

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he's also feeling at ease because Laurel everybody hates her,

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so they're gonna try to throw her in. And so yeah,

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there's a like this is the start of the dynamic. Right.

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The whole episode is basically this dynamic of Laurel versus

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vacation Alliance versus like where Rachel fits in. And we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Era one and two versus Era three and four.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's pretty that's a better way to break that

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down for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, David in the chat room is right. Everybody

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does love an underdog.

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Speaker 1: What was there? Do we have a chatter?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I did we do?

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Speaker 3: Just twice?

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Speaker 1: Well that's enough, David, you're an unofficial guest host tonight welcome.

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Uh we get Corey and Josh. They do a sort

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of a makeup session where Josh awkwardly begs Corey to

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hug him. Uh, Andy actually does hug him, but then

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immediately cuts to a thing where he's like, yeah, I

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still don't trust Josh and like this is why wouldn't either?

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Speaker 3: I This was such bullshit, Like you know that he

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went to Corey to do this while Corey was in

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a really, really fucking good mood because he had just

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won and he'd just gotten back and everybody else was

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in a good mood with him, Like it.

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Speaker 2: Was just.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Josh being the little bitch that he is.

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Speaker 1: Yep, and that was super clear. Like everything that Corey said,

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you could tell it was just because he was sort

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of like high on the experience, like he was just

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feeling good and so he but his confessionals were the

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real thing. And I think confessional wise, he hates Josh

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and that is most people do at this point in

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the game.

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Speaker 3: I just going, yeah, this episode is not real. Go

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for him. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Love that. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 1: All right, hey guys, good news. On this episode we

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get not one, not two, but three slow motion workout montages.

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This is the first one of those. It's very nice.

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And then immediately cut to Devin who says he's been

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in bed for fifteen hours straight. What would you guys

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do if you were in this house? Would you could

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you lay in bed for fifteen hours? Carlon? Do you

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have that ability to do that? If I'm sick, that's

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the only way you can do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I it gets to a point, a certain point

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in time in the morning where I'm just like, Okay,

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I've been here for long enough, like I need to

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get up and do something. I'm hungry, or I feel

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like I need to move or literally anything, or the

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dog is yelling at me and telling me that she

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wants to go out and run around. It's like, if

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I'm sick, I can just chill.

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Speaker 1: But Zach, what about you? Fifteen hours? Could you do

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fifteen hours in a bed?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I mean maybe I've had a good company,

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but besides that, now.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of this, especially in a Challenge house. The

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good company is obviously something, but no phone, no TV,

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no fucking shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He says that it's indicative of how comfortable Devin felt.

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He does not feel threatened at all.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, talking of people and making sure your

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spot is safe in the house. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then David also put in it seems that Devon

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is laying Devon laying about is a factor of him

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thinking his vacation alliance is so strong that he doesn't

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need to put in any work.

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Speaker 1: Ye yeah, yep. Well, I mean that leads us into

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this conversation where, yeah, the rest of this conversation between

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now and the Challenge is about the vacation alliance. Tory

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talks about the vacation alliance. It's they're they're kind of

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crushing it. They have that handshake which is kind of

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I'll be honest, it's kind of a cool handshake with

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the VA shit like that's kind of cool. I like that.

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But Bananas hates the Vacation Alliance obviously he wants to

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get the Vacation Alliance battling each other, which I think

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most people outside of the Alliance probably want that. Yeah,

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and Laurel reinforces that she's sort of is this like

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agent by herself, like a free agent. Going back to

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one of her first wins, she's just sort of is

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there by herself. Nobody's supporting her, but she just has

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to win and prove herself, and she wants to do that.

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If I like Laurel more, I would like this speech.

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But I hate Laurel, so she looks like a bitch

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in my opinion, Coron, Can I say that or is

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it sexist? If I say that, You're fine? Okay, good?

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Speaker 3: So I feel exactly the same way, Zach.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel the same way.

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Speaker 2: She's not the nicest person.

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Speaker 1: Zach agrees, and with that we're over to the challenge.

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Speaker 2: O smack, all right.

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Speaker 1: They arrive at the Challenge. We learn now, guys that

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we started the season with forty players were down to

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twenty so player wise, we're halfway through. Does it feel

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like halfway through a season? I know we is this

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part of what we lost in the first Yeah, it

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kind of does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, true, we did talk about kind of talk about

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this in the first recording. It does kind of feel

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like we're halfway, Like it feels more like a season

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from a few years ago where you kind of feel

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like you're halfway, but you also feel like you could

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still be at the beginning, like you're not just waiting

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to get rid of people because they keep coming back

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where they're still there or yes, like even though some

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of these episodes have been really long, because they still

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do the hour and a half thing, Like I think

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it's a good Like it feels like it's halfway through

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the season. And I mean no spoilers, but they did

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do the MIDSI and trailer after this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems pretty much a sure thing. We are

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basically halfway through the season. Where so we should assume

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an eighteen episode season.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, eighteen and then what to two for

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the reunion?

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Speaker 1: I mean, do we haven't had reunion for a while.

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I kind of hope we get one, but I guess

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we'll see. Yeah, true, they zacht do you know anything

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about that? Have they recorded it? Is there?

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Speaker 3: They usually usually reunions don't get recorded until second half

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of the season at least. Yeah, with all the other

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shows I watched, it's second half of the season towards

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the end where the cast only has to watch like

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four episodes back to back to back. Yeah, or six

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episodes back to back to back.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard any official confirmation about it, but Josh

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did tweet out this week that he's not going to

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address the stuff with Devin until the reunion. So well, Josh, Caroline.

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Speaker 3: Caroline just put in the chat room that Carus said

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she's flying out this weekend for it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and Mark says that the first eight Boots aren't invited. Sorry, Mark, Bomp.

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Speaker 1: Maybe get a cameo or something, yeah, something, Uh all right, See,

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I mean.

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Speaker 2: We're out of a person cash. You can't have everyone there,

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So like that makes sense that I wouldn't invite like

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the first twenty or so unless they had a major

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part in the story.

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Speaker 1: I think that's my thing, is the major part in

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the story, right, Because I think you could make a

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case that there's some people like Casey for example, Casey

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played no part in this season, like she did not

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exist as usual.

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Speaker 3: She's more like, yeah, she's but she's played. She's one,

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she's a champion, and she had more to do with

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this episode, and she was part of the occasional lance

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I would say someone like a viv like she's still

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or Nehemiah there in this in this show up until

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this point, and I forget that he's there almost every episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep son, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess we could do kids, that's gonna say. I mean,

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I think from the vacation lines, we need we need

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like Tory and Devin and then like Josh to like,

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you know, hash it out. I don't think we need Casey,

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Like she's not gonna add anything to that.

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Speaker 1: Agree Zach and listen, I don't dislike Casey. I just

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don't know why she is on this show. She just

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doesn't say anything or do anything or I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know a few times that she has actually like spoken

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have Yeah, it hasn't been a whole there hasn't been

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a whole lot to add, except there was a point

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in time in this episode where I was really happy

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with what she had to say. But we'll get there later.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. This challenge though it is called

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bottoms Out, Carlyn. You love explaining these challenges. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Oh well shit, Okay, So it starts off they have

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they We have to all the eras have their own

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little board that has a through Z with a hashtag

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at the end, and each letter has an equation that

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will pop up on a board across the way. There

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are going to be twenty seven equations that run through

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relatively quickly, and most of them are like addition, subtraction, multiplication.

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It's relatively easy things that you can figure out in

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your head within the first like thirty seconds. So it's

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running through these twenty seven equations, and then depending on

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how many equations you get right, you then get hand

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holds in a forty foot container that's going to be

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suspended over water off the beach, and in that container,

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your team, depending on how many handholds you have, you

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can divide them up. However, your team then has to

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they get lifted up in this container above the water.

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It count as soon as TJ blows the horn. They

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have five seconds to go from the middle line to

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up on the walls, holding onto these handholds. Kind of

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like climb handholds, so not very big holding onto these handholds,

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and they have to hold on to them for as

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long as they've poused the can. And the team who

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holds on the longest not like an addition of you know,

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player ABCD. It's not a combined time. It is an

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overall time for the entire team. The team that holds

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on the longest wins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I personally thought this was a fantastic mission for

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I love this. Teams that were sort of uneven because

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you know, like and we've realized later, like average time,

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like the the way in which they line the teams up.

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Rachel's had a disadvantage, right, because she's not going to

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get as many math equations right as a team with

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more players, so she's almost always going to go first

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or second. Maybe, but this is handheld shit, right, so

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you really just want Rachel just needs four?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really, Rachel, I mean ultimately, Rachel just

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needed a minutum of two, right to.

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Speaker 1: Actually do the thing. Yeah, to actually hold.

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Speaker 3: On a minimum of two, preferably at least four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Four puts her at a major advantage based on

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what we saw the other teams get four puts her

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at an advantage. So this is one where like maybe

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having less players is actually better for you as a team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, so my role worry was when they were going

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through these equations because it was they were you know, abe,

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each letter had its own equation. I was worried that

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in the containers the the handholds were they going to

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be labeled A b CD, so like if you had

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A and F, they were going to be on complete

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opposite sides of the same side. So it was really

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because Rachel only got like seven equations.

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Speaker 1: Right, but that's it, And yes, but that was right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally great. But when I first saw that,

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I was like, oh shit, they're gonna if they do

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it in the way that the alphabet is done, then

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she's going to have handholds on like complete opposite ends.

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Speaker 2: Of this none.

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Speaker 3: I think only two or three of the equations were

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near each other. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That was exactly my thought too, is I say, why

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is Rachel so disadvantage? But I think this was mostly fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they did do. I think it looked like what

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they did in there was put them in a way

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they're spaced out enough where it's not like a comfortable thing.

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But they're not going to put someone like Rachel, who

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is all by herself at a severe disadvantage by putting

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A at one end and F in the middle, and you

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know Q with the complete opposite ends. They put all

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three of them like near near ish to each other,

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where she could hold and stand on all three.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It was really fucking funny to watch someone like THEO

475
00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:48,079
go to try to grab onto the one that's on

476
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,519
the ceiling and the one that's on the wall and

477
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,119
then fall and then the bottom open up and him

478
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,200
just immediately go down.

479
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: There were some big surprises as to who went who

480
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,519
went out quickly. But yeah, so we're still the math

481
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,759
questions though for this point, and really most teams kind

482
00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:07,440
of pick one or two people to sort of solve

483
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,279
the problems, and those people are Devin, Kyland and Laurel

484
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,759
basically per teen and so at the end of the thing, Yeah,

485
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,039
Rachel got six questions, right, Era two got seventeen questions, right,

486
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:24,000
Era three got fourteen, and ERA four also got fourteen.

487
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,559
But as you said, Carlin, Rachel's at six is actually

488
00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:32,440
had an advantage. She has more handholds because they allowed

489
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,319
them to play some closer, and you know.

490
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:38,079
Speaker 3: Well, in the division of the number of handholds per person,

491
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,599
so you've got her six for one person. ERA two

492
00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:44,279
has seven people.

493
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, with seventeen seven people.

494
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: To seventeen handholds. Era three head, I think seven people

495
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,640
or do they have five people five people? I don't remember.

496
00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,200
And then ERA four had like six or seven people

497
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,839
as well, so Era four had two handholds per person.

498
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,039
Speaker 1: Yep. So I thought this is a good way to

499
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:10,759
sort of, yeah, balance out everybody's math. But Rachel does

500
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,519
have to go first because they order them based on

501
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:15,599
how many they got, right, so we.

502
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,519
Speaker 3: Should hand holds don't mean just for your hands, like

503
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:21,640
they're rock climbing handholds, so you can there are some

504
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,000
that are lower down that you can stand on, and

505
00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:25,519
then there are some that are higher up that you

506
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:26,160
can hold on to.

507
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: Yep. All right, so yeah, that's how everybody finished. And yes,

508
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,880
when it comes to like who does well and who

509
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,039
does poorly, there weren't a lot of surprises except for maybe,

510
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,799
as you said, Carl, and theo went out instantly. He

511
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,200
just sort of couldn't get the right grip and the

512
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,920
bottom went out and they're done well. The surprise.

513
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: Before that was Era four was entirely banking on Kyland

514
00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:00,160
the calculator to sail through all of these math questions

515
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,599
and get every single thing right. And then they only

516
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,359
got fourteen of twenty seven.

517
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of they were.

518
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:10,079
Speaker 3: They were a little like, uh, what's happened here?

519
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: Dude. It's weird because as it flashed the screen. I know,

520
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,200
it's different when you're there and you know whatever was

521
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,519
the stressed anxiety, but I got almost all of them

522
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,839
they showed on the screen without yeah, really trying that hard.

523
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,000
It's like these things.

524
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 3: Like the square root of thirty six or the square

525
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,839
root of forty nine, or like there was one that

526
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,400
was I think it was like five times two times six.

527
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:34,759
I mean it was. It was just a bunch of

528
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,759
things where it was like these aren't these aren't hard?

529
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems it seems weird that they didn't that

530
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,640
more teams didn't get more.

531
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:47,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I mean maybe it's the pressure and

532
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,359
all of that, but I don't know.

533
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: It kinda also did a bad job on the hanging

534
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,920
aspect of it. Yeah, they kind of goes out quick.

535
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,079
Josh stayed on for a while, but it's because he

536
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,079
was cheating and staying out the container, so he got.

537
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: Decube, he got called out.

538
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,519
Speaker 1: Yep. Casey didn't do so good. Like weirdly, nobody did well.

539
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,319
THEO got out right away, Olivia got out right away.

540
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,519
Speaker 3: Jenny Casey didn't better than everybody else on her team.

541
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even Casey, it seemed like she got maybe

542
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:21,640
four or five minutes. To Rachel, she got over.

543
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: Five because it did flash at the bottom, like five

544
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,079
ten or something like that, so I think she got

545
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,079
five or six minutes.

546
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Rachel Richard fifteen. Yeah, Rachel was up fucking

547
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,759
just up there forever.

548
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,799
Speaker 3: Rachel's loving forever. At one point in time, calls out,

549
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:38,240
you guys can just go.

550
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,079
Speaker 1: To lunch, yeah, David says. Jordan took two handholds as

551
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:48,440
opposed to two footholds in one handhold. Yeah. Jordan overestimates

552
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,039
his abilities sometimes, which I respect and appreciate, but also

553
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,000
it foxed him sometimes, and this was one where, yeah,

554
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,240
kind of it fucked him because, yeah, he didn't. Jordan

555
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,119
didn't do so good. Nobody did. Nobody did well, and

556
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,000
this except Rachel frankly.

557
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, everybody else, I mean they were all, I mean,

558
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,559
most people were under five minutes, yeah, but those who

559
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:17,039
hung out a little bit later were still under like

560
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:18,079
six or seven minutes.

561
00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. It seems like Rachel just destroyed everybody. She ended

562
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:27,079
up staying there for almost fifteen minutes, so she WENTJ.

563
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: Of course, of course TJ pulled his uh tried to

564
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,200
do a double take on us. All. He starts it

565
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,440
off with you going first in the challenge is always

566
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:42,480
a bad idea unless you're Rachel.

567
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Right eight, and it's if it's Rachel, TJ. Just support this.

568
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:52,480
I support this entirely. H Era three is the is

569
00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:54,079
the loser, so that's Tori and Nevin.

570
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,119
Speaker 2: Yep.

571
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: So for those of us keeping track at home, Rachel

572
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,920
is the only winner. She just who goes against Tory

573
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,279
and Devon who are definitely going in, and that, my friends,

574
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,279
is the rest of the episode is all about Rachel

575
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:15,920
deciding who is going against Tory and Devin.

576
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:17,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

577
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,279
Speaker 3: I really I really enjoyed this, like really enjoyed this

578
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:25,599
episode because it was a there's all of the like,

579
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,160
it was all the gameplay, the social gameplay that we

580
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,640
have been missing. They totally like, I don't know, it

581
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,039
just it's all the social gameplay that I love me too.

582
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,920
It was it was about a bunch of people that

583
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,519
I'm like, God, I would love to see any of

584
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,680
them in. This would cost so much chaos. It doesn't

585
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,960
matter who it is, it's gonna cost so much chaos totally.

586
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: So last season, Survivor went to ninety minute episodes and

587
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,960
Survivor added a bunch of this stuff that we're seeing

588
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,160
now of like, yeah, these weird little conversations that maybe

589
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,359
we don't see, but add a lot of kind of

590
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:02,880
context to other decisions that they make. And it's like

591
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,079
the challenge finally fucking gets it, and we we got

592
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:09,240
all these little segments of all these little conversations with people,

593
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,480
and then when you add them all up, you can

594
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:13,640
sort of see why they made these decisions and it

595
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,519
kind of all makes sense in a better way.

596
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:18,119
Speaker 3: Uh So, this is like, I don't I don't give

597
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,039
a shit about them talking about why they're there, or

598
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,359
like their Famili's bad comb or you know, I'm fighting

599
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,880
for whatever. I don't care about.

600
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,039
Speaker 2: Any of that.

601
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: I do not care about any of that. I want

602
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,839
to see the game play in the house.

603
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,759
Speaker 1: Yep. And this is we get that this episode, Rachel

604
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,039
is very clear about like, here's why I want Laurel,

605
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,680
Here's why I might want Casey and the and then

606
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,039
like you have other people like in their ears and stuff,

607
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,519
and I don't know, I also really like this Zach

608
00:30:45,599 --> 00:30:48,799
and he input on on on the these conversations.

609
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,519
Speaker 2: No, I think ultimately Rachel made the right choice. You know,

610
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,079
I was really worried there for a second it looked

611
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,000
like she might be trying to take the shout Laurel,

612
00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:02,799
but uh, super excited when she chose to go after

613
00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:03,799
the vacation lines.

614
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:06,799
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean even just like the expansion of these

615
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,200
ninety minuted episodes where you get more of these conversations,

616
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,400
are you like, are you into these political conversations.

617
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,119
Speaker 2: I'm always in political conversations, I think, you know, I

618
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,480
think the past seasons we've complained about the ninety minute

619
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,440
episodes just because they've been slower seasons and like Noah's good,

620
00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:25,359
But this season, I'm loving this. So I think it

621
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,400
really comes down to just the quality of the season.

622
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,039
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. Yeah, Yeah, I think it's also that,

623
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,960
like I know that we've gotten some of the gameplay

624
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,720
conversations in other seasons like thirty nine. I feel like

625
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
we got some, but we all just fucking hated the

626
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,519
hated the characters on it. She did not care. I

627
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,759
enjoy Yeah, this was just this was I really enjoyed this.

628
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: I did too. I loved that during this season or

629
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960
during this this like sort of portion of this show,

630
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,519
Rachel is just sort of sitting back. I think we

631
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:00,880
see her just she's just chilling and eat noodles or

632
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160
whatever she's eating, and everybody's just coming up and just

633
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,960
fucking kissing her ass, and like Theo's coming up, like, oh,

634
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:09,440
your wind is so inspirational, Like what a what a

635
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,519
fucking competitor you are? Like everybody's just kissing her ass,

636
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,359
so they are.

637
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: But if there is someone who deserves to have her

638
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,720
ass kicked or ass kissed, yeah, Rachel is one of

639
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:21,319
those people.

640
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I be of it that these people

641
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:25,720
are begging.

642
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,599
Speaker 3: Rachel earned this shit over twenty five fucking years. She

643
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,519
has earned this shit more than almost anybody in that house.

644
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put in my notes. Rachel is loving it.

645
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,519
You can tell. Even in these scenes where people are

646
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:41,839
kind of just fucking kissing her ass, She's just sort

647
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,480
of smiling like, yep, fucking what you got tell me

648
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,480
what you got for me. Oh, I love Rachel.

649
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: I do have to say that, Like when when the

650
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,039
producers tried to kind of pull a fast one and

651
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:57,400
make us think that she was considering going for someone

652
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:03,200
other than like basically throwing Ran and Laurelin. There's no

653
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,960
way in hell. She and Ryan have been friends for

654
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:11,039
twenty years and her and Josh's little friendship because she's

655
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:15,759
his trainer of the last year, is not gonna trunk

656
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,359
that shit.

657
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:22,799
Speaker 1: Yep, Like, come on, yep, it's speaking of which. Yeah,

658
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,359
this is when we first revealed that Josh is, yes,

659
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,440
friends with Rachel outside of the show. He's been, they

660
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,839
work out together, they both live in Miami, so they

661
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
are friends outside of the show previous to the show.

662
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,200
I'm not sure if we've known that before now, but

663
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,079
now we know it.

664
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:40,279
Speaker 3: I don't think we have. I mean unless you follow Josh,

665
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:41,599
which why would you?

666
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: No, who follows Josh? I do dumb ass all right?

667
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,319
Speaker 3: Guys, club night and so and so.

668
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: THEO telling Olivia that he's like into her. Gross, don't

669
00:33:56,279 --> 00:34:00,759
need this, don't need don't need this. You I'm so

670
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,319
happy to have met you. Bar Come on, come on,

671
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,759
grow up. We don't want to see the ship. Uh.

672
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,679
This is when we see more more kissing of Rachel's ass.

673
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,360
Casey comes up to Rachel talks about how they've had

674
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,159
this unspoken thing and they want she wants to continue

675
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,320
this unspoken Uh.

676
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: This is where this is where Casey's gameplay is complete.

677
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,880
But like, how the hell did she make it through?

678
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,400
Big Brother?

679
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: Like, right, what is this?

680
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 3: You can't you can't have a social game if your

681
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,039
social game is unspoken.

682
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're full of ships.

683
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: That's not that's not a social game.

684
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,079
Speaker 1: I fucking knew right away that she's full of ship.

685
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,519
And then like her talking head, Rachel's like, yeah, Casey's

686
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:40,880
full of ship. I've never spoken to.

687
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,199
Speaker 3: This one, which is why it's unspoken.

688
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.

689
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,519
Speaker 3: It was so ridiculous.

690
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,639
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I know there's much to defend there.

691
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,360
I mean, I think, you know, I'm big brother. She

692
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,599
was someone that was friends with ever one, even the

693
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:03,280
people in the opposing alliance, and so I think, you know,

694
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:06,519
really her friendship carried her in a lot of ways

695
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,800
where she's like, yeah, like we're not working together, but

696
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,000
also like, you know, I'm not directly coming after you,

697
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,159
so like we're good, and I think she tried to

698
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:20,039
pull that on Rachel and just did not work.

699
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is Itel.

700
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like Casey is one of those people

701
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,400
who doesn't seem to have grown from her original show.

702
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:30,760
Like the Challenge House is not the Big Brother House.

703
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,119
Speaker 1: Yeah's different games.

704
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah she's she's won the Challenge. If it's not broken,

705
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,119
don't fix it.

706
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like she's a chance. So it's like, who

707
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:42,760
can criticize but she It is weird that she's like

708
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480
she doesn't exist to me until she's bothering me and

709
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,199
then it's like, what the fuck, why are you talking

710
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,199
to Rachel, like like you know her?

711
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly her, her win is so not memorable to

712
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,679
memorable to me, Like I have to be reminded every

713
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:57,880
time that she's a champ.

714
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,199
Speaker 1: Because she doesn't exist, dude, she like and I'm sure

715
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,159
she's a perfectly nice person, like everybody seems to love her,

716
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,559
so I'm sure, But as a TV character, I don't

717
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:11,960
remember anything that she's done at all, Like I just

718
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,000
don't remember her.

719
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,639
Speaker 3: I agree. There were so many parts of this episode

720
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:23,320
that made me cackle too, Like God, this this episode

721
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,639
was great I really enjoyed it.

722
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:26,559
Speaker 1: I think so too. So they're still at the bar

723
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,639
night here, Rachel's making her rounds or I should say

724
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:34,559
more people are just making the rounds to her, including Kyland,

725
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,639
and everybody kind of says what you'd expect them to.

726
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,039
Kylon's thing is basically like, hey, we're gonna win more

727
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,119
so we can help you, so you should favor us,

728
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,039
which you know, he says that later.

729
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

730
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: I just everybody's kind of begging Rachel for some attention here,

731
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,880
which I which I liked. Devin though, says that he's,

732
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,360
you know, not super worried, but he is like he

733
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,639
doesn't think that they're gonna get who they want, which

734
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:05,480
is Ryan, who he wants, which is Ryan. And so

735
00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:07,039
he's kind of prepared to go home, and he tells

736
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:08,719
Michelle like, yeah, if I get sent home, I'll just

737
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,000
go to the Philippines. I'll wait for you.

738
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

739
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: Devin's and Michelle Carlin are you into this relationship Devin

740
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,119
and Michelle? Do you sha?

741
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: No?

742
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: I don't get I did find it funny last episode though,

743
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,519
when Devin calls himself out for the like I've always said,

744
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:27,599
don't have a relationship in the house. While I'm doing that.

745
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,039
I've always said, don't throw yourself in while I'm doing that.

746
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,000
I found that entertaining.

747
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: But we'll see where it gets him. Yeah, spoiler, Yeah.

748
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:38,639
Speaker 2: I think I think Kevin Michelle are fine. Like I don't.

749
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,039
I don't love it. But that's what didn't annoy me,

750
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:42,519
Like I just they exist.

751
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of how I feel. I don't I

752
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,559
don't care, they're fine. Yeah.

753
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:48,679
Speaker 3: Uh.

754
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,519
Speaker 1: And then Rachel we see her talking to Laurel, who

755
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,119
kind of gets in Rachel's ear. Although I think that

756
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,880
Rachel's going to make this decision either way, but at

757
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,400
this point, Laurel tells her like, hey, I'm not aligned

758
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,599
with anybody. I don't have any alliances or allegiances. If

759
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,360
you want to work with me and make this decision, like,

760
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,400
we can just go to the end together. If you

761
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:13,880
trust Laurel. This is good, right, Guys, what do you

762
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,239
think if you're Rachel, do you take this?

763
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:19,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you it was I think it

764
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:21,480
was Ryan. I can't remember when in this episode he

765
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,880
said it, but he was saying that basically Laurel's alliances

766
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,199
in the house, she doesn't have alliances in the house

767
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,199
she has Johnny, and he was saying that he thinks

768
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:32,719
that Johnny is only her alliance because Johnny is scared

769
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,199
of her, which I agree. So I don't know how

770
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,880
much you can actually, Like we have already seen Laurel

771
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,880
throw a challenge to get someone thrown into elimination, and

772
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,639
with the twist that's coming up, Like Rachel could probably

773
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:58,239
trust Laurel right now, Like if they were staying in

774
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,239
this eras thing as teams, she could probably trust her

775
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:08,199
for another few episodes. But I don't know that you

776
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:09,880
could go much farther than that, Like I think with

777
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,039
the with this twist of it going to single individual competitors,

778
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,760
I don't think that you can trust Laurel because I

779
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,440
think Laurel, if she were nominated as a target with Rachel,

780
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:28,599
she would she'd throw the challenge to like or if

781
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,840
Rachel was nominated as a target and she wasn't. Yeah,

782
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,840
if Rachel was nominated a target as a target and

783
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,360
she was not, I think she'd throw the challenge to

784
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:36,960
get Rachel in.

785
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,519
Speaker 2: I don't think.

786
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,079
Speaker 3: So she's already proven that she would.

787
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: I think, you know, so there's been a lot of

788
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,079
talk on these podcasts this season about like, and we've

789
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:51,039
discussed so far, why do so many.

790
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,639
Speaker 3: People should have a person right or Laurel.

791
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, why do people like her? Why did they

792
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,159
work with her? And the one things come up over

793
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:02,559
and over with different podcasts, different people. As they said,

794
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,119
if Laurel gives you her word, if you make a

795
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,719
deal with her, there's no one in this game that's

796
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,159
more loyal to you than she is. Now. If you

797
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,400
upset her, like betray her, she will never let you

798
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,760
live it down, and she will be against you for

799
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,639
the rest of your challenge life until you've like pissed

800
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:21,119
her off. If she promises you you can like take

801
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:21,679
it to the bank.

802
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: I really think that because like, even though she did

803
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,199
definitely throw that challenge to get at Emily, they never

804
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:33,639
hadn't a friend deal. Yeah, so it's just forget that.

805
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:35,320
I do too. I did too.

806
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 3: I can't if that was complete. That was so Yeah,

807
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,320
I have already gone on too much about how much?

808
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,119
Speaker 2: So I just like Laurel.

809
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 1: So we're gonna, Yeah, we're done. We're back at the house.

810
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:51,639
This is where we get Josh and Rachel talking, and

811
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:55,599
this is the conversation that comes back to bite Josh

812
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,800
later where Rachel kind of is sort of bouncing these

813
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,280
id is off Josh and saying like, hey, I'm considering Casey,

814
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,800
and Josh is sort of like, Hey, whatever the fuck

815
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,440
you want to do, man is cool with me, That's fine.

816
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then in his confessional he talks about how

817
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,599
you know, Casey is his ride or die and that

818
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:14,239
he would go to bat for her. But you know,

819
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,960
Rachel looks like she's really made up in her mind.

820
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,679
It's like, Josh, you're pulling the same ship that you

821
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:21,119
pulled last episode, that you've always pulled in this You

822
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:23,679
have made too many deals with too many people, and

823
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,800
you don't have a fucking backbone to stand up to anyone,

824
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,519
for even the people like your rider die Casey. Like

825
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:35,719
this is such complete and total horseshit. When you say

826
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,280
that you will stand up, Like, I don't know why

827
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,320
anyone allies with him because he does not hold his shit.

828
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everyone else holds his alliance.

829
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all hold hold the alliance, but he cannot.

830
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:48,480
He never does.

831
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they like Josh is a person, but

832
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,679
I think that it's starting to really sink in on

833
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,880
all of them, Like they can't play the game with him,

834
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,360
Like he's not. He's gonna do this every since he's

835
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,599
done it every season, he's gonna keep doing every episode. Yeah,

836
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,079
Zach would either.

837
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,119
Speaker 2: I I like Josh. I think Josh is doing well,

838
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,400
and so here's I think. I think the Vacation Alliance

839
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
came in and most of them said, here's the game plan.

840
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,840
We have the vacation Alliance. If that doesn't work, we

841
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,559
have nothing. Whereas Josh comes in, he's like, I got

842
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,000
the vacation Liance. If that doesn't work out, bananas, that

843
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:29,280
doesn't work out, Rachel. So my only thought earlier was

844
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:32,000
I just wish he'd own it more like, yeah, it'd

845
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,480
be sapt to whiney baby, just own him, like, hey,

846
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,159
like I got my people they thought about that would

847
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,760
work for this season, and that would do great.

848
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: But then that's but he doesn't actually have the vacation

849
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,760
alliances back he vacation Alliance and then all of these

850
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,280
other people. He has all the people underneath his actual alliance.

851
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:57,480
So saying that he has multiple alliances.

852
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Just but Zach, what you're saying is that if he

853
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,119
owned that, that would be an acceptable game plan.

854
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,159
Speaker 3: Own to have everybody else's back before his actual alliance

855
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:04,599
is back.

856
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

857
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Owned, Hey, I've got Vacation Alliance behind me, I've got

858
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Rachel behind me. I've got these people behind me.

859
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,079
Speaker 3: The Vacation Alliance. Like to Zach's point, the Vacation Alliance,

860
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,000
everybody else in the Vacation Alliance, Vacation Alliance is number one.

861
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,400
And to Josh, theoretically the Vacation Alliance is number one,

862
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,559
and then Bananas and Rachel and whoever else are two

863
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:26,800
three four five six.

864
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,519
Speaker 2: See he.

865
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: But he has absolutely no problem not going to bat

866
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,519
for the Vacation Alliance at all and going to bat

867
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:39,840
for two three four five six when Vacation Alliance is

868
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:40,760
up for elimination.

869
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Wait, he's not gone to bat for anybody. Josh doesn't

870
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,400
go to bat for.

871
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: That's my point is, I don't think it's Vacation Alliance

872
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,440
wants us to do. I think it's, Hey, Vacation Alliance wins,

873
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,079
then they're number one. If Bananas wins, then Banana's the

874
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:57,480
number one. If Rachel, Rachel's my number one.

875
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: Yep. That's that's Josh's approach of percent Yeah, that's true.

876
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,559
That is owned. If he owned that, if he took

877
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:08,280
that to the confessionals, and we was just like, yeah,

878
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,159
that's this is what I'm doing. I'd be fine with that,

879
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,480
But he does this ship where it's like, oh, I'm

880
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:18,360
so torn, I don't know what to do this lose

881
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:18,840
a friend.

882
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,599
Speaker 3: My issue is that he acts like he's got the vacation.

883
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:25,920
He's got Vacation Alliance is number one, and he will

884
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,920
always go to bat for them. He acts like that

885
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,760
is always his number one, but he never backs it

886
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,840
up because he's that.

887
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,519
Speaker 1: They're all number one, they're all number one. He says

888
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,039
that Rachel's my number one, she's my trainer, she's my

889
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:39,719
number one. I'm always there for her.

890
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,639
Speaker 2: And this is why I'm okay with him. Not only

891
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,079
the more I thought, I'm like this is good because

892
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:48,960
if he came out and basically said fucking mess no,

893
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:52,199
because if you have basically said, like, Vacation Line's not

894
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,760
my number one, I'm finally screwing them all over. It

895
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,679
might work this season, but they're gonna see that when

896
00:44:56,679 --> 00:44:58,880
it aired and they're like next year, they'll be like, well,

897
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,760
screw you, Josh. But if he's like, oh, I don't know,

898
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,079
like I'd like, oh, like Josh is so sweet and dumb,

899
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:08,239
like we're mad at him, Like she's a probable guy

900
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,719
and we can trust him next season.

901
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 3: But they can't. That's the problem.

902
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, David.

903
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: David in the chat room says, well, Josh has too

904
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,559
many friends and alliances. The same is true for Tory

905
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:23,800
in the USA season when she had so many friends

906
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,079
and alliances that she couldn't make any decisions in her

907
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:28,960
boats either. That's why she and Jordan had a huge

908
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:34,159
falling out that season. But yeah, she has, but she

909
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,679
got called out for the same ship that Josh is pulling.

910
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:39,760
And the problem is that Josh is never gonna learn.

911
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,599
Speaker 2: But also think, you know, Josh goes far every season.

912
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:46,239
I feel like he pulls this every season and they

913
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,599
keep plating him get away with it. So why is

914
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:49,519
he going to change it up?

915
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 3: Because I don't know how much he's gonna be allowed

916
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,239
to get away with it. After this season gets a

917
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,199
lot of people wisen up to it.

918
00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: He gets away with a little less every season, and

919
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,559
I think eventually it's it's it's done. He's gonna wear

920
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,039
out his welcome. It's it's the walls are closing in.

921
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:10,519
I really do that, especially now we have even fucking

922
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,519
Casey calling him out and Corey and if Festi was

923
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:18,639
on the season, fest he probably would. Yeah. Uh anyway,

924
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:22,440
even Rachel. So Rachel after this conversation says he she

925
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:25,719
is also surprised that Josh didn't fight for Casey, as

926
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Rachel is saying like, hey, I'm considering number one, and

927
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:31,519
Josh is like, hey, whatever you gotta do is you know, and.

928
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:35,519
Speaker 3: The confessionals he's sitting there like crying about how Casey

929
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,159
is his number one and he doesn't want her to

930
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:39,280
go home and he'd always go to bat for her,

931
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,639
like against anybody, he'd go to bat for her.

932
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: It's just she's the reason, the bit.

933
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:50,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's such a little bit. Yeah, he does not

934
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,440
have a backbone. He doesn't know how to stand up

935
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,159
to fucking anybody.

936
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

937
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

938
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: And I have to say during this scene, I love Rachel.

939
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:02,719
I think she's a badass and I think she is maybe.

940
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,199
I think I've said this on the podcast Hottest Body

941
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,079
of the of the Challenge for sure.

942
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,199
Speaker 3: Hottest fucking hot body. She walks, She's got to stick

943
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,760
up the rest though she walks.

944
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Yes, she's got the she's got the muscle walk like

945
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,760
she's got sort of like their shoulders are wide.

946
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,639
Speaker 3: And ship her shoulders are wide. She kind of does

947
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:20,159
the wattle.

948
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of, because it's like you just got

949
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,280
so many muscles you can't like fucking walk like.

950
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, it looks honestly, it looks like she's not like

951
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,800
she's got all the muscles, but she is not limber

952
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,800
enough to have a normal like she needs to throw

953
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,719
some yoga into her or plates something something to kind

954
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,880
of give her some some more fluid movement.

955
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: My general point is that she's hot, and she wears

956
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,559
clothes that are are sometimes super weird, but always super hot,

957
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,400
with the exception.

958
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:50,559
Speaker 3: Of this fucking hot body.

959
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: Yes, she does, with the exception of this scene where

960
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,559
she's wearing that weird tuxedo fucking thing with the weird

961
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,719
collar that like one collar is like way high. And

962
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,599
it's the one time in twenty.

963
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,519
Speaker 3: Years I'm like, leave, I think it's just a one

964
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:02,280
sleeve shirt.

965
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,159
Speaker 1: I don't like. No, no, no, no, it's a very

966
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:06,000
different thing, and I hate it. I hate it.

967
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna missed it.

968
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Oh, it's that whole thing with her on the couch

969
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:10,599
and it's what she wears the nominations.

970
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a one sleeve shirt, but it.

971
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: Had a collar. The collar like one.

972
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was frilled. It was a frill. That was

973
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,719
a it was a it was a single, single sleeve

974
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,519
tank top. Don't that was a frill.

975
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,159
Speaker 1: Don't know. Hate it, hate it? It's grossed.

976
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: I didn't actually mind that one. Rachel Caroline says, I

977
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,360
didn't walk about the violins yet. Oh no, we have

978
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,039
not talked about that, sony. It took me a minute.

979
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:34,159
It took me a minute to figure out what you

980
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:35,639
were talking about with the violins. No, we have not

981
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:36,559
talked about the violins.

982
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what's about.

983
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: It'll come up later.

984
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: Worry about it.

985
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 3: It's we're still we're many, many many minutes away from that.

986
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: Okay, well we're in no nominations. Uh, don't say my name, bitch,

987
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,000
I'm not gonna find the thing.

988
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,599
Speaker 3: Nominations.

989
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,679
Speaker 1: Uh. So, to recap, Rachel is the lone decider. She's

990
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,119
going to decide who goes against Tory and Devin, who

991
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,119
are definitely going, and her choices are.

992
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: And she doesn't even have to bring it back to

993
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,840
her team and pretend like her team made the decision.

994
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,199
It's literally just her.

995
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,559
Speaker 1: It's all her, there's no men women, like, it's all

996
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:13,320
it's just her. She's deciding between Casey and Kyland or

997
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,239
Laurel and Ryan. In terms of their cases. Ryan's case

998
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,239
is basically like, hey, you're my number one. I'm your

999
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,599
number one, Like that's it.

1000
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: You know, I've always been my number one like you

1001
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,400
have since the moment we set foot in this house.

1002
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Laura basically says like, I don't have an alliance.

1003
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,440
You're my alliance now if you, you know, pick me

1004
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:37,360
instead of them. Casey's case is basically like, hey, we

1005
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,239
haven't targeted you personally, Rachel, we targeted Era one but

1006
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,400
not you personally. It was always just your era but

1007
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:47,039
not you personally. That's Casey's case. Not a great argument, Nope.

1008
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,639
And Kylan's case is basically like he Era four is

1009
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:53,719
more likely to win in the future, and so if you,

1010
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,119
you know, play to our strengths, we will save you later,

1011
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,519
which is Kylin's That's like fucking whatever he says, right,

1012
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:06,920
that's what everybody says. Also not very convincing. No, what

1013
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,159
do you think, Zach, Zach? Is there a better argument

1014
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,760
for either of these teams? Okay, if you're if you're Kyline,

1015
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,280
what do you say?

1016
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: I think you gotta go to her And basically you

1017
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,960
need to throw the vacation line Sidner the bus and

1018
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,000
be like, listen, I know I'm on the outside with them,

1019
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:32,360
so like you can't trust that, trust me, no to

1020
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,719
to to uh Rachel, because.

1021
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:38,039
Speaker 3: But I'm saying Laurel would say this because Casey can't

1022
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:38,800
say that she's.

1023
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:43,599
Speaker 2: On the basically like I'm on their era, but like

1024
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,440
I know that, I'm like, once you guys are gone,

1025
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,719
I'm disposable to them. They're taking each other over me.

1026
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:51,760
And so you know he needs to sell himself as

1027
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,960
a weapon for her, like I'm more dependable than you

1028
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,599
know Laurel is.

1029
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think that's true too, because I think

1030
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,360
heart of Hearts Rachel probably knows Laura's not super dependable reliable.

1031
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and then on top of that, like if

1032
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,320
you look at the eras, who has had the more wins?

1033
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,519
Era four has had more wins, so they do have

1034
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,519
a higher chance of having more wins going forward, even

1035
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:19,760
though RA two has come in second almost every time.

1036
00:51:20,159 --> 00:51:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but really, if you're if you're Rachel, you probably

1037
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:27,400
think individual game is coming right, Like you can't. This

1038
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:33,960
is not a matable game. So yes, I think that

1039
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,280
part of Rachel's thing is like, well this this era four,

1040
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,719
era three ship, like this is not gonna matter soon.

1041
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:43,119
It's all about sort of personal relationships. So nobody else

1042
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:45,880
really has any good any good plays. I think Rachel

1043
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,119
knew what she was doing going into this nomination. I

1044
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:49,679
think probably all of us did if we looked at

1045
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:53,119
this logically, I don't think there.

1046
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: Was any way in hell that she was about to

1047
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,280
throw Ryan down there. Ye honestly, like out of out

1048
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,639
of everybody, out of all of the map that they

1049
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:05,400
could have had, the only one they you probably could

1050
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:11,039
have called the outcome for would have been Ryan versus whoever. Well,

1051
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:14,719
I take the back. Jesus wasn't a fit. I take

1052
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,119
that back. I take it back, I retract him, ignore me. Yeah,

1053
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,679
this was a yeah, with the game that they played,

1054
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,360
anybody could have done it. But like if you just

1055
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,199
sitting at that table, like at least for the win

1056
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,840
it With the women's side of things, Tory, Laurel, and

1057
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,880
Casey physically all three have done really well in games,

1058
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:39,119
really well in the in the show, game wise, not

1059
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:42,199
necessarily strategically wise, but game wise, all three have done

1060
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,920
really well. And then for the men like Kyland and Devon.

1061
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:50,800
Devon's been a sleeper for years. He finally pulled out

1062
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,800
his big championship a few years ago. Kyland has done really,

1063
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,679
really well, and Ryan has always kind of been a

1064
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:03,039
fluff player. But with the equalization games they've had, equalizing

1065
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:05,719
games they've had in the last years or last few years,

1066
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,880
like he has, he stands a real chance.

1067
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says, getting to the final, I don't think

1068
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:11,800
is gonna win the final.

1069
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: I do know.

1070
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: I'm just saying the elimination, like the immediate elimination. He

1071
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,880
stands a real chance.

1072
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Kylein's gonna be a chance if this if this show

1073
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:22,400
keeps going on, Kyle Kylin will be a champ. Ryan,

1074
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,480
I don't think. Oh yeah, well, I.

1075
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 3: Think will be a champ in the next few years

1076
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:26,840
for sure.

1077
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:29,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just Kyle. I mean you just know it, right,

1078
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,679
like anybody that's good at everything, and Kylin seems to

1079
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:33,960
be that good at everything.

1080
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he needs to work on a social game

1081
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:40,239
a little bit, but he's like he's got the he's

1082
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,159
got the physical game down, he's got the the challenges down.

1083
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:45,480
He's got the eliminations down.

1084
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: He needs to math, good at swimming, Like, it's just

1085
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,760
he's a well rounded and he's a well rounded dude.

1086
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: I mean, we think he's good at math. He kind

1087
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,159
of struggled today.

1088
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: No, honestly, if he was the only one answering any

1089
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,280
of the questions on his team, then he probably is

1090
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,760
good at math because all the other teams look like

1091
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,760
they had at least like they had one player, but

1092
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,719
then others were helping.

1093
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1094
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,159
Speaker 1: And to win, you only have to be a little

1095
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:12,599
better than average. Yeah, to win, you know, just if

1096
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:17,119
math is his worst point, like, that's not bad. Well,

1097
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:19,920
as we say, Rachel makes her decision and then she

1098
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,719
goes and does the right thing and tells them right.

1099
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,519
So she goes and tells Casey, and you know, Casey

1100
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:29,000
and Kyland, and they both sort of just like fucking understand.

1101
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,199
I think they're both super cool about it.

1102
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:34,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they had to know that was coming, Like,

1103
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,159
they had to know that it was going to be

1104
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,320
a fucking long shot for her to be willing to

1105
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,039
put in Ryan.

1106
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1107
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1108
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:43,519
Speaker 1: And so for their part, they don't blame Rachel. It

1109
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:47,000
seems they blame Josh, and so this is where we

1110
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,760
get the fights between Josh, Devin, Michelle, Olivia. They're all

1111
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,719
talking about how Josh has confused loyalties and therefore makes

1112
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,119
things very hard for the rest of his alliance. Devin says,

1113
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:02,320
the Josh's game is sloppy. It's just this is the

1114
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,719
Josh Pylon part of the episode. Zach, would you like

1115
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,960
to defend Josh?

1116
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,679
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I kind of did it

1117
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,639
earlier that Yeah, I think I think Josh is playing

1118
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:14,400
what you know, we call him Big Brother, the floater

1119
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,440
game where you just you kind of have alliances all

1120
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,679
over the house and you float to whoever's in power,

1121
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,280
And right now Rachel was in power, and he just

1122
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,159
floated over there and was like, Hey, that's.

1123
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: Not a bad strategy for and I don't watch Big Brother,

1124
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:32,679
but that's not a bad strategy for like a survivor,

1125
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,719
for example, when you just have to get to the

1126
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,079
end and then you have to plead your case. But

1127
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:38,719
a game like the Challenge where you have to keep

1128
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,639
coming back and then go on vacation with the people

1129
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,039
that like, you're not defending, you're not actually like vouching

1130
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:49,599
for Uh, I don't know I'm not sure this is

1131
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:51,280
a great game for Josh.

1132
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean being that this is a game where

1133
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:56,360
you come like the goal is not just to make

1134
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,119
it to the end. The goal is to continue to

1135
00:55:58,119 --> 00:55:58,559
come back.

1136
00:55:58,679 --> 00:55:59,519
Speaker 2: They it.

1137
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: You need to have that, you need to have that

1138
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,599
alliance of people, and you need to stick with your word.

1139
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:09,800
You can't just Nellie t was another one who did

1140
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,320
this all the fucking time. He'd make alliances with like

1141
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,400
seventy different people during the games. Yeah, and then hed

1142
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:20,559
to be like, oh, I think.

1143
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: But Nellie's one that learned right because by the last

1144
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,159
seasons he threw himself in to save Corey because I

1145
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:30,199
think that was like his thing of like, I.

1146
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: Have to like one season they're doing that.

1147
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: Is eventually until he eventually learned if Josh ever doesn't

1148
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,960
even know I will learn the thing.

1149
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: I think that's just a he he was trying to

1150
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,239
make up for some ship with Corey.

1151
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: Well that's fine, Josh, that too. Josh needs to make

1152
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,320
up some ship with Corey right now.

1153
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: In fact, But like I said, he's done this several

1154
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,320
times in the past and thus far he's had minimal

1155
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,119
blowback from it. So I think until he goes on

1156
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,400
the season, and they really like gun out after him

1157
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,400
early and hard. I don't think he's gonna like I

1158
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,639
think he's gonna be like, why not keep doing it?

1159
00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:07,480
I don't get any major blowback.

1160
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,119
Speaker 3: I just really want him to get major blowback. Carolyn, Caroline,

1161
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,880
the violins, don't worry. We will talk about the violins.

1162
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:17,039
But it's not there yet.

1163
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:19,519
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. Violins.

1164
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 3: Oh it's great, all right, yes, so now we are.

1165
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: Into uh elimination paybacks A bitch, bitch uh so Devin Tory.

1166
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,119
They go down there obviously they're in the sand and

1167
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:35,400
Rachel throws and Kylin and Casey to the surprise of

1168
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,679
absolutely no one. And this game is called Cable Connection Showdown. Zach,

1169
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:42,159
explain this game? What's this one?

1170
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: That is a great question? What is this one? Again?

1171
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: This one is there? Each each contestant has two stands

1172
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,480
with a bunch of cables wrapped around.

1173
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: That gets it now, I kind of remember like Pact Sentences,

1174
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:01,639
they have like a jumbled pile of wires and like

1175
00:58:01,719 --> 00:58:03,960
there was a board with all the seasons on it

1176
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,639
and you had to like untangle your wires and plug

1177
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:08,840
them in to light up all your seasons.

1178
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: Yep.

1179
00:58:10,039 --> 00:58:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1180
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 3: Each of the cables had a different plug on it.

1181
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,760
It was like twenty two thirty ant plugs and one

1182
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,280
ten ant plugs and plugs from different countries and plugs

1183
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,559
from the US, and you had to plug them into

1184
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:25,880
the right plugs. There were extras on the board and

1185
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,440
each plug was it would carry over for two of

1186
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,480
the seasons.

1187
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: I took almost no notes during this, but during the

1188
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:42,880
Kyland versus Devin thing, Kyland just fucking killed it, discrusted

1189
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,039
it had.

1190
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,199
Speaker 3: Some weird like he was. He made the point of like,

1191
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,360
it's not how fast you do it. It's going to

1192
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,000
be getting the right plugs in the right spots, but

1193
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:54,559
it's kind of a combo of both. You still have

1194
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:57,280
to untangle everything really quickly. Because Devon was doing like

1195
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,159
one plug at a time and trying to like fish

1196
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:02,559
it through this big giant mess of cables, whereas Kyland

1197
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:05,639
and the girls did this later, or the ladies did

1198
00:59:05,639 --> 00:59:09,079
this later. They just started like pulling all of the

1199
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:12,280
cables and trying to untangle everything at the same time,

1200
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,880
and then once they got one that was a little

1201
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,079
bit lucid, they grabbed that one and fish that all

1202
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:19,559
the way through and throw it over, whereas Devon was

1203
00:59:19,599 --> 00:59:22,519
just doing like with everything still like all tight and

1204
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,480
bundled up, tried to like fish things through, and Michelle

1205
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:31,119
and Tory and Jordan and everybody else from his alliance

1206
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:34,639
are standing up on this state on the up in

1207
00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:37,519
the stadium like what the fuck are you doing? Why

1208
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:39,119
are you going so slowly?

1209
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, David in the chairm says Devin seemed ready to

1210
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,719
go home and like he didn't try, and that's kind

1211
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:48,559
of I kind of agree he was. He watched Kyland

1212
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,800
that fucking tear through this thing and do way better,

1213
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:54,079
and he's still standing there thinking like, oh, if I

1214
00:59:54,199 --> 01:00:00,440
just keep going slow, I'll do well. Yeah, yeah, buy it.

1215
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,599
Speaker 3: In his after after the episode little interview he does,

1216
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:07,039
he starts it off by saying, that was a fucking blowout,

1217
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:11,199
no denying it was an absolute blowout. And it's truly,

1218
01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:12,840
I mean, at least he think Devin's one of those

1219
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,360
people that's always kind of been able to call that

1220
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,159
shit out for himself, like he's usually pretty self aware

1221
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:18,119
about that sort of thing.

1222
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: Which he said it even the same TJ said something like,

1223
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:24,719
great job. Everybody except Devin, and Devin was just like

1224
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,679
he just laughed and whatever. And I do agree with David.

1225
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:29,639
It just seems like he didn't give a ship, you know,

1226
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,039
which is.

1227
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 3: What I think he knew after a few minutes, he

1228
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:36,239
knew that he did the wrong strategy and just could

1229
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:36,800
not recover.

1230
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yet.

1231
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: Kyland hits his button for the first time to light

1232
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,400
up his board and see if he's missing anything, and

1233
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,480
he's got like four that are that are not lit up.

1234
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,440
And then Devin goes for his board and he's got

1235
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,639
four that are lit up. Yeah, and it's just like, dude,

1236
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,039
you were so fucked.

1237
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just I also don't think, uh, he tried

1238
01:00:58,039 --> 01:00:58,400
that hard.

1239
01:00:58,559 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 3: Frinkly, No, he didn't.

1240
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: The Casey and Tory thing seemed a lot closer. I

1241
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,599
do think they were both actually really trying.

1242
01:01:05,719 --> 01:01:07,079
Speaker 3: I don't think there was any and they both went

1243
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:11,159
at it like they they really pushed themselves to try

1244
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:13,360
and get all of this undone as quickly as possible.

1245
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: Yep. I don't think any Shenanigan's happened on the women's side.

1246
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,559
Speaker 3: Frankly, I don't think so either. It came down to

1247
01:01:18,599 --> 01:01:22,119
the wire. They both they you know, fixed some things,

1248
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:25,480
and then Tory was about two steps in front of

1249
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:28,480
Casey and just happened to hit her buzzer to light

1250
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:33,239
up her whole board correctly, you know, literally half a

1251
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,920
second if that before Casey's yep.

1252
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:41,679
Speaker 1: So Tory wins and Kylon wins and.

1253
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 3: Violins.

1254
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,119
Speaker 1: What's this? What's the violence?

1255
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: It cuts from TJ saying that Tory has won, to

1256
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,599
all of a sudden, you get these sappy violins, the

1257
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:03,079
saddest song ever, and it cuts to Josh in Professional

1258
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,239
crying about his rider die.

1259
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:12,199
Speaker 4: Casey is going home and she's the reason I'm here,

1260
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,119
and she's my sanity in this game, and I just

1261
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,320
I just like to be near.

1262
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:20,199
Speaker 1: Her and I want to be with her.

1263
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:28,239
Speaker 3: He's just crying and he's it's such horseshit because he

1264
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,960
did not try at all to keep her in this game.

1265
01:02:34,119 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was very did not try at all. This

1266
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,679
seemed very much as just sort of like playing up

1267
01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:43,519
to the camera so that he could say later like

1268
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:50,199
see Casey, I like, I fucking cried. But the this was.

1269
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 3: So fucking good because it was so obvious that the

1270
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:57,000
editor saw this and we're like, this is some bullshit.

1271
01:02:57,239 --> 01:03:00,559
We need to call this out. Let's put the sappiest music.

1272
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:04,679
We possibly can focus entirely on him, even though we

1273
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,519
just had two people win this game, win these eliminations.

1274
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,440
Forget the winners for right now, we need to focus

1275
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,000
on Josh God. And it was just Chef's kiss.

1276
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:23,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good. Fuck Josh, Yeah, yep, and yes, and

1277
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:25,639
even at like he's he's like crying up there on

1278
01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:28,119
the stage, or even like Casey and Devin are just

1279
01:03:28,239 --> 01:03:30,199
laughing and like they don't see, like they don't really

1280
01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:32,519
give a shit. It's also about the same time infected.

1281
01:03:33,239 --> 01:03:35,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is also about the same time that we

1282
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:38,320
get a confessional from Casey, and maybe it was right

1283
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,000
after they actually walked off. We get even confessional from

1284
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:44,559
Casey saying that she kind of mentioned it earlier on

1285
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,559
in the episode, but she says it again like Josh

1286
01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:51,800
doesn't have the back of his alliance, and I think

1287
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,039
it's time to kick Josh out of the vacation alliance.

1288
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:56,960
Like you can't play a game with him because he

1289
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,800
doesn't actually hold up his end of the deal when

1290
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,039
it comes to you being his ride or die. So

1291
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:06,800
I think it's time to not play this game with

1292
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,880
him anymore. And it seems like this is kinda fucking

1293
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:10,480
loved it.

1294
01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: We've not gotten anything so like blatantly honest from other

1295
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,159
people out of this alliance, right, they're just sort of like,

1296
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:22,840
I can't Josh anymore, like I came.

1297
01:04:22,639 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: From Casey right after Josh has this scene of just

1298
01:04:26,239 --> 01:04:32,320
crying about the fact that she's going home. Yeah it oh,

1299
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,440
it's great.

1300
01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: It's not. I fully expect if we ever see them

1301
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,960
back on a show again together, Casey's gonna have Josh's

1302
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,119
back completely, So I mean, yeah.

1303
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,159
Speaker 3: That's always goes. He's gonna make up. They're gonna make

1304
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:46,199
up in the off season, and it'll be fine. I

1305
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:48,239
think she might be a little bit more wary of him,

1306
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,760
but I think it'll still be fine. Caroline in the

1307
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:55,800
chat room says it's her favorite moment of the entire

1308
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,199
season so far. I agree, I fucking loved it and

1309
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:01,800
maybe not favorite, mam, but it's definitely like top five

1310
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:06,079
of this season, and that it will only be surpassed

1311
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:08,880
by when Laurel gets her come up. And because I

1312
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,079
refuse to believe that she doesn't, I same girl, same

1313
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,679
I hope she doesn't hope that Laurel eats shits coming up.

1314
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: God, that'd be great, Carl. And she's on my fantasy league.

1315
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,440
So I want you to fucking go fuck yourself and

1316
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:30,960
all I got left fuck, I got left players, Ryan, Ryan,

1317
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:37,360
anything Ryan fucking counts as anything. Please all right, Well

1318
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:43,000
that's it. So, uh, we know that they lose, and

1319
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,199
TJ says, you know, hey, it's time to pick the targets.

1320
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:49,800
But then he says, actually, and then big dramatic pause.

1321
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,719
Everybody freaks out. I think it's time to switch it up.

1322
01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:54,079
Speaker 2: A little bit.

1323
01:05:54,519 --> 01:05:55,159
Speaker 3: Everything.

1324
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: It always changes everything. So guys, we are not in

1325
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:04,480
a team game anymore. We are in now into an individual.

1326
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: Game, but still kind of going for our teams.

1327
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,159
Speaker 1: Still doesn't make a whole lot of sense carrying the

1328
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:15,440
flag of your era, as TJ says, But now.

1329
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: Does that just mean that they still have the same

1330
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,119
colored shirts on as their era?

1331
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,039
Speaker 1: But isn't this isn't the challenge? Great? How we're nine

1332
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:23,800
episodes in and we're still like, we don't know how

1333
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,719
this fucking game is played. This is how they.

1334
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: Because if they're carrying the flag, the way that I

1335
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,280
interpreted is this is if they're carrying the flag for

1336
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,960
their for their era, then they are still somewhat on

1337
01:06:36,039 --> 01:06:39,360
a team for their era, but they're competing individually, so

1338
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,760
they're not. I'm very confused.

1339
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,639
Speaker 2: I thought it or just I thought it was more

1340
01:06:44,719 --> 01:06:47,920
just a theoretical thing of like, hey, if you win,

1341
01:06:48,679 --> 01:06:51,519
then your your era gets bragging, right, so like you

1342
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:54,239
were the best era. I don't think it's actually going

1343
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,519
to impact how they have to play together going forward.

1344
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if there's something weird, like if

1345
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,159
your if somebody from your era goes in and you win,

1346
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,639
you can like swap out or something like. I wonder

1347
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:11,159
if there's something else. But you know, we're not gonna

1348
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:13,280
We're not gonna find out until it happens. That's how

1349
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,679
this game is played until next week.

1350
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 3: All right, Well, yeah, I don't know. We'll see because

1351
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,559
the mid season trailer didn't give any real clue as

1352
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:23,559
to what's happening next week. It was a midseason trailer.

1353
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:27,199
Shit was a combination of the next like I guess

1354
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:27,920
eight weeks.

1355
01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:30,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, But what we did learn is that there is

1356
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:34,039
still a target scenario. The winners still pick the targets,

1357
01:07:34,039 --> 01:07:37,960
but where it stops is you pick the the opposite

1358
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,079
gender of you, right, and you can pick three of

1359
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:44,199
those opposite genders of any era, even your own no.

1360
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: Of anybody up there, right.

1361
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: Well, that's that same words that includes.

1362
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,719
Speaker 3: People who were targets last week, which we do up

1363
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,679
until this point. He said anybody, he said anybody, and

1364
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:01,960
he did not give give any exclusions if you cannot

1365
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,320
pick this week's targets. So I assume the way that

1366
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,960
he the way that he phrased it because I was trying.

1367
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,599
I was wondering if Laurel was going to get called out,

1368
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:13,199
because that would be two weeks in a row.

1369
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: Well Ryan did get called out two weeks in a row,

1370
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,399
so you are right, Yeah, so there you go, because

1371
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,920
the yeah torix, Derek, Ryan and bananas, and Ryan.

1372
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,319
Speaker 3: Says anybody up there, And I was I was really

1373
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:26,199
focused on Laurel, on whether she was going to get

1374
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:26,680
called or not.

1375
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:29,199
Speaker 1: I was focused, I guess I was focused on like

1376
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,399
of your own era, not the previous target thing. So yes,

1377
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,359
this is and Ivive even says, like, all she has

1378
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:39,439
to do is sort of not be the most hated

1379
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,680
woman of the person that's the you know in the

1380
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,680
dirt and uh and but in this case, she is

1381
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,359
one of those hated people because she is nominated by Klan.

1382
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's more. I think it's less

1383
01:08:51,119 --> 01:08:54,039
she's hated by Kylan and more she's a non entity.

1384
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: Yes, So I think we're going to see her try

1385
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,560
to make friends. I think she's tried to. She seems

1386
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,039
like hidden. I don't even know who of Eva is, and.

1387
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:05,159
Speaker 3: I wonder if she's hidden because there have been so

1388
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:08,640
many big players in this game, and there's so many

1389
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,399
big personalities that have just kind of they've needed to

1390
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,119
dominate up until this point because they went out earlier

1391
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:16,279
in the season and they needed to kind of show

1392
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:19,800
their stories. Because she showed up a lot in the

1393
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,319
mid season trailer. So I wonder if she's going to

1394
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,520
be We're going to see more of her because she's

1395
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,960
now like they're able to focus on her story a

1396
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:32,520
little bit more.

1397
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,359
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. So the targets next week Derek, Ryan,

1398
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,479
Bananas for the men, Rachel Aviv and Jenny for the ladies,

1399
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,760
and then we see the Karma vote. I don't know.

1400
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:44,920
I don't know how much to say about the Karma

1401
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,960
Vote until we see how this pans out. I have

1402
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,800
a question, open question, mostly for you, Carlin, but all

1403
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,000
Caroline is also in the chat room, so also for her,

1404
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:03,439
it's defin and attractive. Man, would you swipe? Would you swipe?

1405
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,439
Would you swipe left on this guy on the on

1406
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,640
the on fucking hinge? Which when do you use Carlin

1407
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:10,560
your a hinge looks like.

1408
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 3: A frat boy. He looks like a frat boy.

1409
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: He's got very uneven facial features. Mandy's man.

1410
01:10:23,319 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think personally, if you got to know him,

1411
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,399
then maybe, but yet, just first glance, he's not really

1412
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:29,920
my type.

1413
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see, I don't see. I don't know Devin,

1414
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,159
I don't know. I don't see it with Devon, yeah,

1415
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:39,000
that's just me.

1416
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:41,159
Speaker 3: Uh.

1417
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:43,119
Speaker 1: But he says that Michelle is about to get a

1418
01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:46,359
five in more ways than one. So I think we

1419
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,800
know how big Devon's penis is. And that's it for

1420
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:57,359
the episode. Christ just reading between the lines, that's all.

1421
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:04,119
Uh yeah, five inches If that wasn't clear, guys, five inches,

1422
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:04,680
we got that.

1423
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: We got that.

1424
01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: Ere Yeah, I totally did not take that. I just

1425
01:11:12,199 --> 01:11:15,000
did not even. It went over my head entirely. I

1426
01:11:15,039 --> 01:11:16,800
also wasn't really paying attention when he was talking.

1427
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: So because he's so attractive, No, but he's just watching

1428
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:28,279
so attract and also he's so attractive. Well that's it, guys. Hey,

1429
01:11:28,319 --> 01:11:29,960
we didn't have Wolfe on this episode. Should we have

1430
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,640
mentioned that, Carlyn? You got really offended. We didn't mention

1431
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,880
that with you. Should we mention Wolfe was not here?

1432
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolfe was not feeling very well today, so he

1433
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,560
did not participate. Hopefully he will be back next week.

1434
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,640
And he also didn't join in the chat room. And Zach,

1435
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,760
you were gone last weekend. You didn't join in the

1436
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,479
chat room either.

1437
01:11:50,199 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 2: I did not.

1438
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,079
Speaker 3: I at least I at least had a good reason

1439
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:54,680
as to why I didn't join the chat room because

1440
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,640
you guys were talking. The podcast was being recorded at

1441
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,439
like two am London time. There was no way in

1442
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:07,359
hell I was staying awake for that ship, no dedication. Jeez,

1443
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,600
that's the guy who didn't join last week, who was

1444
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,880
still sitting in Peoria.

1445
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,319
Speaker 1: I've recorded every episode. I just want to say that,

1446
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,319
just been here every episode of this season, just saying that,

1447
01:12:19,039 --> 01:12:21,600
and last two and David says it could be four

1448
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,199
inches and a thumb in the butt. Thanks David. We

1449
01:12:25,239 --> 01:12:30,720
needed that comment on this episode. I don't I'm not

1450
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,720
used to hosting What's next, what do we do.

1451
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 4: Now?

1452
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 3: Do we have any social media sects?

1453
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 2: We have? Yeah, we have quite a few things. First off,

1454
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:49,760
a few days ago, Justine from the UH in the

1455
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,039
World Championship season.

1456
01:12:51,039 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 3: I believe.

1457
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:59,319
Speaker 2: She attended a fancy event with Rihanna.

1458
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,159
Speaker 1: What of it?

1459
01:13:02,279 --> 01:13:03,239
Speaker 2: Fenty fenty?

1460
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 3: It's when of Rihanna's brands fenty Yeah, fi n t y.

1461
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,560
Speaker 1: What's it? What do they make? What's fenty?

1462
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: They make lingerie, they make makeup. It's a brand of

1463
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:23,640
a bunch of different things for women. Well, uh and

1464
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,399
the is uh.

1465
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: Georgia was on the cover of this month's issue of

1466
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,680
Fabulous Magazine.

1467
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,600
Speaker 1: Looking Hot.

1468
01:13:33,359 --> 01:13:40,359
Speaker 2: Yes, we got a cryptic, weird tweet from Durrell earlier

1469
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,760
this week on X asking if any family lawyer attorneys

1470
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,000
are out there to please d m him. I think

1471
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:50,600
that if he might if you have in trouble in

1472
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,199
paradise with the family.

1473
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: Because Laurel started some ship about him getting a massage

1474
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:56,560
from Jenny or something.

1475
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,319
Speaker 3: I really hope that's not the from Emily. I really

1476
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:02,840
hope that's not the reason, because that looked so non

1477
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,359
sexual in any way, shape or form. I really hope

1478
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:07,760
that didn't set things off.

1479
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: Well.

1480
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:18,399
Speaker 5: No, eventually or we want Earlier this week in uh

1481
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,399
Kansas City, West hosted a twenty year Real World Austin meet.

1482
01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: Up got the cast from the Real World back to

1483
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,239
here minus Danny.

1484
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, oh where's Danny and Johan?

1485
01:14:34,399 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 2: They said that Danny was invited but couldn't make it.

1486
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:41,640
They didn't speculate why Johanna wasn't there, So.

1487
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: I would imagine that'd be weird for Wes's wife.

1488
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: That could that could be it?

1489
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Danny and Melinda were married.

1490
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I figured at first they just chose Melinda

1491
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:55,840
over him, but then they did. They did tweet out

1492
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,000
that Danny was invited, couldn't make it, but they did

1493
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:01,239
FaceTime him.

1494
01:15:01,359 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes I mean, that's that makes sense. Like Carlyn,

1495
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,359
you would invite let's say, let's say Gareth is living

1496
01:15:07,399 --> 01:15:11,720
with you, you would invite two friends that used to date,

1497
01:15:12,119 --> 01:15:14,439
but you might not invite your ex boyfriend.

1498
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: Right.

1499
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:17,159
Speaker 3: I don't talk to any of my exes, and none

1500
01:15:17,159 --> 01:15:19,359
of my friends talk to any of my but none

1501
01:15:19,399 --> 01:15:21,199
of my friends talk to any of my exes.

1502
01:15:21,239 --> 01:15:25,279
Speaker 1: Like, but it'd be friends and then that friend's ex

1503
01:15:26,319 --> 01:15:26,880
not yours.

1504
01:15:27,039 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 3: But this isn't this is a completely different thing because

1505
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,800
these are this is a group of celebrities or celebrity

1506
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:38,319
adjacent people who they they are doing this partly for

1507
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,039
publicity and partly for themselves.

1508
01:15:41,279 --> 01:15:43,279
Speaker 1: They're also real humans and for her and.

1509
01:15:43,399 --> 01:15:46,159
Speaker 3: No I realized that, but they also like these people

1510
01:15:46,199 --> 01:15:50,800
all still talk to each other. Whether I'm not saying

1511
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,800
that he and Johanna talk, but I'm sure she still

1512
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,079
talks to everybody else in that group. So it's not

1513
01:15:57,119 --> 01:15:59,119
a weird thing for her to show up because she's

1514
01:15:59,119 --> 01:16:04,640
still friends with that. If I had my ex, yeah,

1515
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,840
if no one talks to them anymore.

1516
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,279
Speaker 2: I also think it could be a bit weird, Like

1517
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:12,399
if they were doing it like at an MTV type

1518
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,720
meet up, like you know, to celebrate, that'd be one thing.

1519
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,000
What's happening in Kansas City at Wes's house, So to

1520
01:16:18,079 --> 01:16:20,760
like invite your ex into your house where your wife

1521
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,439
and child lives, you might have been like, yeah, I

1522
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:22,960
don't want to do that.

1523
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 3: Okay. It's also been twenty years.

1524
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: The house could have said that Wes, you know, like

1525
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,399
it's gonna respectful your spouse.

1526
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: It's been twenty years since they were like shit, it's

1527
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,199
been eighteen since they dated, Hey, who are.

1528
01:16:36,119 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: You talking to me? You're talking of West kind of

1529
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,119
both of you, to all of you.

1530
01:16:45,399 --> 01:16:48,279
Speaker 3: It just it's been eighteen years since they dated. There

1531
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,359
this is a friend group where they are both individually

1532
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:53,960
still friend as far as we know, individually, still.

1533
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,239
Speaker 1: Friends with that entire that this is weird. Can you

1534
01:16:56,279 --> 01:16:58,600
really not see any world that this is a little weird?

1535
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:01,920
It is absolutely weird. It is absolutely weird.

1536
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 2: When I when so like when I have.

1537
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 3: I have, I actually have multiple friends, as Denver who.

1538
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,119
Speaker 1: You're about to be called out in a review for

1539
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:14,920
talking over Zach solely exactly.

1540
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: When when I got married, Carly actually messaged us to

1541
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,439
come to the wedding, and my wife I never did Carly,

1542
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,319
but just because of like us being friends and Carly

1543
01:17:24,399 --> 01:17:27,159
being beautiful, my wife's like, absolutely not, She's not allowed

1544
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:29,560
to come. So saying that Wes's wife could be like

1545
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,199
absolutely not, I don't think that unreasonable.

1546
01:17:33,279 --> 01:17:35,359
Speaker 1: I kind of don't either. Wes like lives with Johanna

1547
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:37,960
and ship like that's like a serious I don't. I

1548
01:17:38,039 --> 01:17:40,600
kind of get that that's weird to invite her, even

1549
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:41,159
though it is.

1550
01:17:41,279 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 3: But I think this is also a different situation.

1551
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:48,159
Speaker 1: But it's not you, right, somebody else.

1552
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: They have facetimed her like they do with Dan. All right,

1553
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,479
So here here's a question we had earlier this week

1554
01:17:58,119 --> 01:17:59,960
on Jeopardy. See if any of you guys can get

1555
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:00,479
this one.

1556
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: Casey nailed it.

1557
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: Incorrect.

1558
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh damn it.

1559
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, Casey Clark was the ultimate and head

1560
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,399
of Household, winning half a million dollars on this reality show.

1561
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh big Brother? Yeah, what is big Brother?

1562
01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:18,079
Speaker 2: What is big Brother? So keis Casey making it onto

1563
01:18:18,119 --> 01:18:19,000
Jeopardy this week?

1564
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,359
Speaker 3: I don't feel like that counts as as challenge trivia.

1565
01:18:22,399 --> 01:18:25,960
I feel like that counts as our challenge social media

1566
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,039
news count I think that counts as big Brother social

1567
01:18:28,119 --> 01:18:28,680
media news.

1568
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,239
Speaker 1: I only know that because it showed up on the

1569
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:32,279
Anthony Challenge subred I did not click through it, but

1570
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:34,600
I saw the headline that said, like, oh, you.

1571
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: Said Casey okay.

1572
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: I said Casey shows up as a Jeopardy question, So

1573
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,720
I was like, Oh, Casey's got to be the answer. No,

1574
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,079
Casey okay, I get it.

1575
01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:46,520
Speaker 2: It's been announced that, uh, from November sixth to the

1576
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:52,199
November tenth of next year, there is a challenge Cruise

1577
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,680
to the Bahamas that you could go to where you

1578
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:56,319
could go on age.

1579
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 1: And we're going to be there as a podcast.

1580
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:06,039
Speaker 2: With Johnny Boys, Tory, Bessy, Nanny, Josh Mark, and Casey.

1581
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: Here we go, guys, we're doing it.

1582
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: I could go join the vacational line.

1583
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,199
Speaker 1: We're doing it, waiting in line. Character Low's waiting in line.

1584
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wolfy and I will stay here. We'll watch you guys.

1585
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,159
Speaker 1: Go do it. Me and Zach Zach me anybody.

1586
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: I do it like it's expensive. But then I saw

1587
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,600
that's like a rate for two people. If we divide

1588
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,880
it in half, it's not that bad.

1589
01:19:27,239 --> 01:19:28,399
Speaker 1: How much is it for two people?

1590
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: For like a room for two of us, it'd be

1591
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,640
about twenty four hundred. It's about twelve hundred each.

1592
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,359
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, are not aware. Out of the out of Miami,

1593
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,000
how many days it's four days?

1594
01:19:40,039 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: Like old. Let me pull the website back up, so.

1595
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,520
Speaker 3: Gay, so I can think of so many better things

1596
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:52,760
that I would rather do with my time.

1597
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:54,399
Speaker 1: There's no better thing.

1598
01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Out of leaves that have k Canaveral, Florida. The

1599
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,399
first full day you spend the perfect day at cococ

1600
01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:11,000
which I believe is I don't know where that's at

1601
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:17,960
it there on her Oh it's in the Bahamas, and

1602
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,479
then another down sea, and then a day at the

1603
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:25,439
Grand Bahama and then day five you get back to Florida.

1604
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah, we're going. We're going.

1605
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:34,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, the cheapest room is twenty four one

1606
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:37,079
hundred and eighteen dollars, so about twelve hundred each.

1607
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 1: Cool, we're doing it, Karan that we're going to.

1608
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:44,359
Speaker 3: Share a room and usually share a bed.

1609
01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't know about sharing it.

1610
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's usually double occupancy. I mean unless they do

1611
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,199
single beds and like if they do two singles, look

1612
01:20:56,279 --> 01:20:56,600
double lot.

1613
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,159
Speaker 2: Looking at the photos, it does look like, yes, you

1614
01:20:59,239 --> 01:21:00,760
share beds.

1615
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: Worth it, have fun boys worth it. We're doing it, Zach,

1616
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:08,159
We're doing it.

1617
01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:11,319
Speaker 2: I'm in and you know, maybe they'll add more as

1618
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:12,039
we get closer.

1619
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 3: Dam says on a cruise they can switch a double

1620
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,119
for two singles.

1621
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well there you go.

1622
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:25,079
Speaker 1: There we go. We're doing it. We're doing it. What

1623
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:27,039
else we get? We got to read reviews?

1624
01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:28,039
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

1625
01:21:28,119 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 3: Oh, one last thing.

1626
01:21:30,119 --> 01:21:34,039
Speaker 2: We had the first two episodes air of Josh's new

1627
01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:35,600
reality show on Telemundo.

1628
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,079
Speaker 3: Why are we talking about this called.

1629
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:45,399
Speaker 2: Lost fifty because I have reason. Joh they started with

1630
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:47,920
fifty people, they're down to forty six. Josh is still

1631
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:54,000
in and uh Josh has started a relationship with Mexican

1632
01:21:54,119 --> 01:21:56,039
supermodel Jenny Dalla Vega.

1633
01:21:57,159 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: I saw videos and stuff of that. It looks super uncomfortable,

1634
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,680
But if the challenge I'll be fine.

1635
01:22:05,359 --> 01:22:09,239
Speaker 3: Yep, me too. All right, we have the fantasy teams

1636
01:22:09,359 --> 01:22:09,840
to go over.

1637
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we got to do reviews first, Alight, always

1638
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,439
go last at Carl Fantasy teams. Okay, fantasy. Let's like

1639
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,159
Carlin digger on Grave and then and then we'll read

1640
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:22,520
the reviews and Colin will regret everything that she said tonight.

1641
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:28,359
Speaker 3: No, probably not. Zach, do you have the host league?

1642
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:30,319
Speaker 2: I do?

1643
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: Am I winning? Am I winning? Please tell me?

1644
01:22:35,079 --> 01:22:35,399
Speaker 2: Please?

1645
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 1: Some weird ways of averages. You only have what two

1646
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,000
players now hold on Carl, Hey, Colin, don't fucking talk

1647
01:22:45,039 --> 01:22:47,880
about it, just don't call it out.

1648
01:22:48,079 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 3: So before before, before Zach does the points a minute,

1649
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:57,640
he has two players, Laurel and Ryan a minute a minute,

1650
01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:02,880
I have four players, Chel Theo, Derek and Aviv. Wolfe

1651
01:23:03,279 --> 01:23:09,880
has four players Kara, Johnny, Tory and Naya. And Zach somehow,

1652
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,680
somehow still has fucking eight players, all the rest of them.

1653
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,399
Speaker 1: But here's the thing with Zach, Zach. You pick, you

1654
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,600
pick shitty players, I think, hoping to get lucky. And

1655
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,239
now you've had two really poor, poor weeks on the

1656
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,439
on the public League. So I think you're getting lucky

1657
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,159
on the on the draft. But the public League Ian strategy.

1658
01:23:31,039 --> 01:23:33,319
Speaker 2: Yes, my big strategy with the draft was I wanted

1659
01:23:33,359 --> 01:23:35,960
to get the strong people. I got. I gotta Jordan

1660
01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:38,439
and Jenny. And after that, like we knew that there

1661
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,279
was a couple of showmances. I was like, all right,

1662
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:43,960
it probably lasts long enough to like get into a showman,

1663
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,319
so just go after them.

1664
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: So Zach Zach did have a strategy. Good for you, Zach.

1665
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: But yes, I but to answer your question him about

1666
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,520
are you winning, I'm just let's say I'm Kylon and

1667
01:23:56,560 --> 01:24:01,840
the rest of you guys are Devin. This week it's

1668
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:07,199
uh so in last place with seventy six points, it

1669
01:24:07,239 --> 01:24:08,640
is Tim.

1670
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:10,119
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, yes, of course, yes.

1671
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:15,279
Speaker 2: Third place with eighty three points is Wolfie.

1672
01:24:16,039 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: Oh all right, I can overtake Wolfe. I'm on, I

1673
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,319
can overtake Wolfe.

1674
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Uh and get lucky.

1675
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I get lucky A few times I can, I can

1676
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:24,399
overtake him.

1677
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:25,279
Speaker 3: You have a chance.

1678
01:24:25,359 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: Second place with eighty eight points is Carlin.

1679
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: No chance. I can't get that. I can't get that.

1680
01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:34,159
Speaker 2: And uh I am currently sitting at first with one

1681
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:35,720
hundred and seventy points.

1682
01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 3: That's what happens to You still have eight players two

1683
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,479
our four, four and two.

1684
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,520
Speaker 1: And when he makes up the fucking rules like of

1685
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,520
course I could make I could win if I make

1686
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,520
up the rules like those. And when you basically last

1687
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,239
gets a thousand points, the player eliminated gets twenty million.

1688
01:24:54,359 --> 01:24:56,359
Oh I'm all the sudden winning guys.

1689
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,359
Speaker 2: Or when you have all of ERA four and they've

1690
01:24:59,359 --> 01:25:02,960
won four hour of the eight daily challenges.

1691
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,039
Speaker 1: Yeah that too.

1692
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,119
Speaker 3: There's also that, all right. So in the public League,

1693
01:25:09,319 --> 01:25:13,600
first place is ct Phone Home with sixteen eighty five.

1694
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,960
Second place is I Touched Johnny's Banana with sixteen sixty eight,

1695
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,920
and I'm still sitting in third with sixteen forty three.

1696
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,319
And then we've got.

1697
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm the second place out of the host I gotta

1698
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,199
say this, I'm second place out of the host yep.

1699
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:30,239
Speaker 3: So we've got Big Uncle Sweet Tea at twenty second

1700
01:25:30,319 --> 01:25:31,600
with twelve ninety three.

1701
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: Thanks, thanks, Wolfie.

1702
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:38,159
Speaker 3: Is twenty fifth with twelve twenty four and Zachie Bananas

1703
01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:39,960
is twenty ninth with eleven sixty six.

1704
01:25:40,359 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: So this week pathetic, last two weeks pathetic, pathetic.

1705
01:25:44,079 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: So I forgot to set my line up this week.

1706
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:49,319
I remember two minutes before the cutoff, so I set that.

1707
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:54,800
I didn't have time to do the the Money League.

1708
01:25:55,479 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: Yep, so the weekly budget is again big t phone Home,

1709
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,399
I touched Johnny's Banana and then.

1710
01:26:02,359 --> 01:26:05,199
Speaker 2: Me and then.

1711
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:11,119
Speaker 3: Zach You are an eighth on that one and big

1712
01:26:11,159 --> 01:26:12,800
Uncle Sweet teear end twelve.

1713
01:26:13,279 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take it. I'll take it. I'm coming up, man,

1714
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,600
I'm coming up. Twenty second? Am I half?

1715
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: Am?

1716
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 1: I am I half? Half rank for the for the

1717
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,279
Public League twenty seconds?

1718
01:26:23,319 --> 01:26:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a little bit more than half because we've

1719
01:26:25,279 --> 01:26:29,119
got forty two people. Yeah. This week, though, this week

1720
01:26:29,199 --> 01:26:31,000
is gonna be like this coming week is going to

1721
01:26:31,039 --> 01:26:33,119
be real difficult for me to figure out. Like I

1722
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,720
put my picks in, but I'm really unsure on a

1723
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,640
lot of them because the mid season trailer it was

1724
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,079
for like the entire next like eight episodes. It wasn't

1725
01:26:44,119 --> 01:26:45,000
just for next week.

1726
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think people I think I've been slow playing.

1727
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,000
I got a lot of good players left.

1728
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:53,319
Speaker 3: You keep saying that, and you like, I have a

1729
01:26:53,319 --> 01:26:54,439
lot of good players left too.

1730
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,359
Speaker 1: I keep coming up in the ranks. I'm just saying

1731
01:26:57,359 --> 01:26:59,359
I keep coming up, just saying.

1732
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:01,279
Speaker 3: You just have to have to play your your big

1733
01:27:01,319 --> 01:27:02,239
players strategically.

1734
01:27:03,279 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Well, all right, Carl, are you ready for a little I.

1735
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,159
Speaker 3: Think change in the game. I'm I'm gonna be I'm

1736
01:27:10,159 --> 01:27:13,479
gonna be real fucked this coming episode. All right, yeah,

1737
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,279
let's let's hear it. Give me all aviews.

1738
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,359
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have your thick skin coats on.

1739
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,159
We got nothing bad reviews this time?

1740
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:23,279
Speaker 3: Did we get?

1741
01:27:24,359 --> 01:27:30,399
Speaker 1: We got four Jesus between last week and this Yeah,

1742
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,760
and only one is good and the good one is

1743
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,880
only four stars. So guys, if you enjoy this podcast,

1744
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,079
leave us good reviews.

1745
01:27:38,359 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: Bad reviews. Just get us five stars.

1746
01:27:40,119 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Knock out these several people telling us to stop podcasting.

1747
01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:43,920
So let's get into this.

1748
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,079
Speaker 2: This might be my fault. By the way, Oh shit, good,

1749
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,039
I told you last week that like after was it?

1750
01:27:53,239 --> 01:27:55,000
They said some time? And I said last week about like,

1751
01:27:55,039 --> 01:27:58,159
oh the best Challenge podcast. I went on Twitter and

1752
01:27:58,159 --> 01:27:59,800
I was like, no, we're the best one. I was

1753
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,920
promoting our podcast. There's probably people I pissed off on Twitter.

1754
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: Good that gives us some good, valuable context. Here, Les

1755
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,319
Sombra seventeen says, time to end it. This show used

1756
01:28:12,319 --> 01:28:14,920
to be fun to listen to as something different than

1757
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:19,399
the usual challenge podcast, but it's gone way downhill. Most

1758
01:28:19,399 --> 01:28:21,880
of the hosts don't most of the those seem to

1759
01:28:22,199 --> 01:28:26,039
have every season. Wait, hate every season, wait to typo,

1760
01:28:26,119 --> 01:28:31,239
you dumb bitch. We did well? No, I know, but

1761
01:28:31,319 --> 01:28:34,359
she said hated last season. Yeah, but this person that

1762
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,199
have every season, So I'm just gonna make fun of

1763
01:28:36,199 --> 01:28:40,359
them because they're making fun of us. Hate every season.

1764
01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:42,640
They constantly argue with each other and complain about the show.

1765
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,600
If you guys don't want to be here anymore, why

1766
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,920
should we just end the podcast already?

1767
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Boy?

1768
01:28:50,399 --> 01:28:52,520
Speaker 3: That's why we have this so that we can argue

1769
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:53,079
with each other.

1770
01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know any argue, but I do not

1771
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,479
hate the season. By the way, I hated last season.

1772
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,840
This season I.

1773
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Love this season.

1774
01:29:02,199 --> 01:29:04,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, this season is a lot of fun. I did

1775
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:06,000
not like last episode, but I do like this season.

1776
01:29:06,399 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 1: I love this episode of this season has been just

1777
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:09,479
banging the whole way through.

1778
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

1779
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,359
Speaker 1: Spider Man four for four says maybe a break question mark.

1780
01:29:14,399 --> 01:29:16,640
I hate to write this. I normally really look forward

1781
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,399
to this pod, but the Gladiator episode was not my favorite.

1782
01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:22,760
And the group kind of talks over Zach a lot. Uh,

1783
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:27,479
and I really value his opinion, yea, Carlin's that's why

1784
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:28,680
I called your ass out, Carlin.

1785
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 3: No so, and I do. I do try to actively

1786
01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:34,880
catch myself if I talk over Zach because so for

1787
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,199
all the listeners for so that you were all aware

1788
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:41,840
Zach's audio come because of his connection. Zach's audio comes

1789
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,560
in a half a second late, so we don't actually

1790
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,079
hear him talking until we have already started talking. So

1791
01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:51,119
most of the time we do all catch it, but

1792
01:29:51,319 --> 01:29:52,600
it doesn't happen all the time.

1793
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: And also there's a and Zach. This is not meant

1794
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,560
to be offensive, but there is something about the video

1795
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,960
being off that is like when we're seeing each other

1796
01:30:00,039 --> 01:30:02,800
we can sort of brace for like, oh, Carlin sat

1797
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,239
up a little bit, She's like fredit to say something out.

1798
01:30:05,319 --> 01:30:07,920
There is some some bit of that. But with Zach,

1799
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:13,920
I'm trying to be uh, you know, I'm trying.

1800
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,159
Speaker 2: But also thank you too. Whoever left that for saying

1801
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:17,560
the lake caring for me? I like caring for me.

1802
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Too, Spider Amanda four for four said that right, and

1803
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:23,600
spells your name wrong, so she's also a bitch.

1804
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: I'll forgive her.

1805
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: With a K. Zach, Are you offended? And people put

1806
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:29,560
a K in there?

1807
01:30:30,279 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 2: I mean it's not my preferred spelling, but you know

1808
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:35,680
I'll live with it. Are we sure? Now? Are we sure?

1809
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:43,079
This is not former co host Amanda.

1810
01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:43,199
Speaker 3: Who always talked over everybody.

1811
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: That could be that could be? Oh s, I didn't

1812
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,960
even finish reading this. The group Tien talks over Zach

1813
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,159
a lot. I realize it. Please dismiss him less. That's

1814
01:30:52,199 --> 01:30:55,479
you Carling, Please dismiss him less. Uh And while I

1815
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,920
get there are a lot of dumb things without innovative,

1816
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:03,439
silly dailies and eliminations. The hate towards Derek Drell, Banana's car, Josh, Tori, Anissa,

1817
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:07,159
Amanda Brad like, who are we really left with? Yes,

1818
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:08,920
it's not a perfect season, but I will not go

1819
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,600
back to thirty nine. I'll take Pitbull, Derek's squeaky chicken

1820
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,159
feet and Casey getting exposed gladly before another workout montage.

1821
01:31:16,359 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 3: Loll.

1822
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: It's not that deep either way. Thanks for the content.

1823
01:31:19,039 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: It sounds like that person maybe does not enjoy I

1824
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,840
think we gotta let them know that they wolf you

1825
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,960
know that they don't enjoy the banana's negativity sound drops.

1826
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,039
Speaker 3: They did, they did not mention bananas once in that

1827
01:31:32,119 --> 01:31:35,159
whole thing, bananas is not mentioned.

1828
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're saying we changed. But listen, I

1829
01:31:40,119 --> 01:31:43,119
viewed these through like a very me centric lens. I

1830
01:31:43,159 --> 01:31:45,279
know that may fucking makes it's like a problem for me.

1831
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,319
And yes, I've absolutely hated on Derek, but I don't

1832
01:31:50,319 --> 01:31:52,920
think I've hated and Anissa. I don't think I've hated

1833
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,560
on anybody else, certainly not Brad. This person calls that

1834
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:56,199
Brad hate.

1835
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,119
Speaker 3: I think they're calling me out for the Brade.

1836
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:04,560
Speaker 1: Not as they should. I mean, I but love Brad,

1837
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:05,520
love Brad.

1838
01:32:06,039 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 3: You have loved Brad.

1839
01:32:07,119 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: I think I did say last week they like if

1840
01:32:09,039 --> 01:32:10,600
Brad was never on the show again, that would be

1841
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:11,119
fine with me.

1842
01:32:11,279 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: So well, then Zach, go fuck yourself. Why does this

1843
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,359
person like your opinions but then not like it when

1844
01:32:16,359 --> 01:32:21,319
you talk about Brad. Sorry Spider Amanda for telling Zach

1845
01:32:21,399 --> 01:32:23,640
to fuck himself with that opinion about Brad. But you know,

1846
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,840
I take it very personally. We say people say things

1847
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:32,840
about Brad. Jeez. Else and Nora comes into the one

1848
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:37,720
star review for us no podcast worst. Thanks Else, Nora

1849
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:42,520
for just for Yeah, it's just four people talking over

1850
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,680
each other. I'd rather stand in line at Disney for

1851
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,720
a small world listening to a family from the Midwest

1852
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:52,039
argue about whatther mountain dew is better than diet PEPSI

1853
01:32:55,720 --> 01:33:02,760
let's talk. We lose then what we lose we lose

1854
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:08,199
to standing in line and fucking Disney one great?

1855
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: But would they rather have the challenge Mania a question?

1856
01:33:12,279 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 3: Oh god. We have had some some conversations in the

1857
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,960
last few weeks that have just been They've evolved into

1858
01:33:18,079 --> 01:33:21,279
ridiculous arguments that just do not stop. So there's that

1859
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:22,479
I won't give them that.

1860
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: I blame you for that instigator. No, No, that's not

1861
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,039
that's that's not that doesn't sound like me at all. No,

1862
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:34,800
I don't do that. And this one, this one hits

1863
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,720
very close to home. I wish Wolfe was here to

1864
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,000
hear this one. Unhappy followed by a lot of numbers.

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One star review says this pod was better with all

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their ex wives. Wait, I'm not done. This new lady

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talks over everyone and is you gotta carl it? There's

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your you, This new lady, thank you frame that shouldn't

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put under wall. This new lady talks over everyone and

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is obnoxious. Yeah no, you're this new lady.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. If you guys thought those reviews

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were unfair, please leave us better ones at wherever you

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listen to your podcast.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't think they were unfair, still leave us

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better ones or leave us worse ones than just give

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us five stars.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of leaving us stuff, I mentioned last week

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guys that we do not really get any voicemails we're

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going to put on this record. We got one, and

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I thought, I thought, hey, one genuine voicemail might inspire

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other people who listen to this podcast to leave genuine

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voicemails that we can put on this LP that I

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keep talking about that was going to go for sale

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this week. But then I thought we might get more

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voicemails if I played this current voicemail.

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Speaker 3: Is it any good?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get to it in a second. But

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if you want to leave us voicemails, please do seven

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seven nine nine oh one oh seven three four seven

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seven nine nine oh one oh seven three four. You

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can leave us voicemails and we will put them on

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this LP, and.

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Speaker 3: Even leave us a voicemail of you hating our podcast

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and just leaving your really really, really shitty review. We'll

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put that on my sail and we will put that

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on there.

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Speaker 1: I have a song on the LP dedicated to negative reviews,

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which maybe I should read you based on this one,

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because Carl and you are obnoxious. Now we know that,

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and I can include that in the Okay, So here's

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our voicemail this week.

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Speaker 2: Wait, hey, Challenge.

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Speaker 3: This is super fan Heather.

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Speaker 2: Been listening since the beginning to the World's Greatest Challenge podcast.

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Love you You're amazing. Listen every week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, gonna be on the LP. She's been great and

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really has been listening to us for almost a decade.

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She's awesome again. Seven seven nine nine oh one O

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seven three four seventh through.

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Speaker 2: Does that number just go straight to an answering machine?

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Speaker 1: Then it does. There's no hope that I will answer it.

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If you want to call me personally. Three oh nine

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three six oh nine O two seven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, leave us voicemails. They can be a review of

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the pod. They can be your take on the season.

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They can be your funniest story about some random Challenger

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that you happen to meet in an airport. They can

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be the time that you got your haircut by Lee Roy.

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You could be standing at Challenge Mania with a bunch

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of people and call and leave a voicemail with Mark

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standing next to you. It could be literally anything.

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Speaker 1: Don't do the Zodiac Killer shit where you call and

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tell us that you killed somebody and then leave us

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01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:52,039
at clue to how you did it Like that. I'm

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not interested in that. I am anything revolving around the Challenge.

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I mean I'm into that. If you want to call

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Zac directly to the ether Zach tell us, tell us

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your phone number if they want to call you the murder.

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Speaker 2: Ship nine two seven two nine, all right.

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Speaker 1: If you gotta, if you have to bury your body,

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call that number. If you want to send somebody a

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dick pic, Carlin, what's your phone number?

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Speaker 3: No, all right, this is the difference between men and women.

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Don't put that ship out there.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, we have a Patreon too, guys, Uh, listen

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to me. I'm gonna I'm the world's worst host at

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this ship. You get years and years with the after

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show and pre show content. We talk about pumpkins this

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time around. If you want to hear us talk about pumpkins,

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that's how you do it. Uh, and you can do

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that for five dollars a month, and also for five

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dollars a month, we say your name, So thank you

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to Elena, Alvin, Anna, Brian, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie, Laura, Martez, Maverick, Patty, Rolden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah,

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Sarah Scott says, shack shake our smiling stand Steven. It's

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that's everybody.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, you keep our lights on.

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Speaker 1: Got through it in one breath. Thank you everybody. Also,

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that gives you access to like the discord that Colin's

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never on another ship like that, and uh yeah, that'll

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do it? Is that anything do we do? Do we

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do it all? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I'm not used to this cool chat room.

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Hang out for a second, let me figure out how

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to do this outro. And yes, as somebody said on

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this episode, I got nothing, and we will see everybody

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uh next week.

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Speaker 2: Ch