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wide receiver six foot, one hundred ninety six pounds out
of Alpine, Utah, American Fork High School. We have number eighty.
Toby Christiansen on the lie. Toby, how the heck are you?
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Speaker 1: In let's go. Man.
Speaker 4: Hey, did they have to sell you on playing in
the alumni game? I saw your name on the roster, Toby,
how you feeling. You're feel an athletic, You're feeling nimble,
You're feeling quick.
Speaker 3: No to all of those. To be honest with you,
I uh so two years ago. I really wanted to
do it when they asked me, and I was super excited,
and then you know, Steve Young ended up showing up
and being in the huddle with Steve Young. You know,
I was even starstruck. I mean I had that moment
where I was in there and he actually looked at
me and he said, Toby, you do this. And I
remember freezing like he knows my name, you know, like
it was just.
Speaker 1: Cool to Steve Young remember who I was.
Speaker 3: And I remember like he said, sprint to the right.
It was just an arrow, and he said, when you
get done, if I haven't thrown it yet, He's like,
plant and come back. And my left knee was swollen
at the time, and I remember thinking like, I don't
want to let Steve down. I don't want to let
Steve down. Luckily, before I had to make that plant
come back, he'd already thrown it to somebody else. And
I was like, all right, I'm free. No, to be
honest with you, I was.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 3: The way that works with the Alumni Tournament is that
if you if you're on the winning team, you're automatically
invited back to next year. And since my team won
last year, I was automatically invited back. And I was gonna,
you know, let somebody else do it. And I told
my two little boys like, hey, I think I'm gonna
let someone else have a chance. And they're like, Dad,
please one more time. They love it. They love going
on the field, they love hanging with the players, they
love being a part of it. And they said, Dad,
can you just do it one more time? And I said,
I said, I said, all right, one more go. But
I was really happy to be on a roster we had.
We had a lot of young guys, so I don't
think I'm going to be needed at all to run
very many routes. So I'll be there more in spirit
than actually physically.
Speaker 4: Hey, well you know what, dude, I'm looking at the
these all time stats in BYU football history, and bro
like you know, being in the as a wide.
Speaker 1: Receiver in bing football history.
Speaker 4: If you eclipse one thousand yards receiving, you know, because
there's been a lot of quarterbacks and a lot of
receivers have come to you while you're You're in good company.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You got on the career ninety three receptions, one thousand
and sixty eight yards, eleven point five yards per reception,
and seven tuddies.
Speaker 1: Bro, you're ahead of.
Speaker 4: Darius Lassiter, You're ahead of Tyler Anderson. You're ahead of
guys that you know had done some big things Rossoppo,
most recently Cody Epps. You're ahead of all these guys
that BAYU fans loved once.
Speaker 1: Upon a time.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't you know. I mean, I was there
a long time ago. I had I had fun while
I was there, And you know, if you put up
some numbers while you're doing it, great. I would have
loved to put up bigger numbers than that, but it
is what it is, and I'm grateful for the four
years I had. So you know, there's the numbers and
and I had a you know, couldn't have done it
without the quarterbacks sewing us the ball.
Speaker 4: Well, now you're you're still giving back to BYU. Okay,
because you've been mentoring and coaching up a current BYU
wide receiver Legend Glasger I.
Speaker 1: Caught up with him.
Speaker 4: He gave a shout out to his coaching mentor and
skill position coach, Toby Christiansend.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your connection with Legend Glasger.
Speaker 3: So it started with comp basketball around I want to
stay around fifth grade. My son and Legend played on
the same comp basketball team and they played together for
a couple of years and we got to know Legend
pretty well, and he ended up playing a little flag
football with us, and he was obviously a gifted athlete.
And around the same time, I had a couple of
dads approached me about, you know, where to go for
extra work for their sons. And it was interesting. I said, listen,
if you want if you want some speed work, go
to Nate Solberg, and if you want some strength and training,
go to TAT And if you want receiver specific stuff,
go to Rossoppo. As a ross oppo is the best
in the businessman and you'll be happy. And the dad
looked at me, and they're like, don't you know all
this stuff? And I said, well, I guess and they said,
could we just pay you to do it? And it
was kind of interesting because of the time, I was like, well,
I've got a job and I've got this. You know,
I can't really dedicate a ton of time to it.
But I thought about it and I thought, you know
what I'd love to I'd love to help some young kids,
you know, that want to be wide receivers. And I
kind of did it like a like a piano teacher,
where just once a week I send a text out
and I say, hey, this is the day I can
do it if you guys can come. And some days
I'll have one kid, two three kids, and some days
I'll have twelve kids show up and they're all in
this text thread. And Legend was one of those kids
early on that just came and he just you know,
I mean, byu fans are about to see his skill level,
they're about to see his speed, They're about to see
some of his gifts. But what I want to tell
people is, man, this kid wanted to work. It wasn't
just me teaching him hard work. There were times where
I don't remember it was ninth grade or tenth grade,
but he had a game and the next day his
mom and I were texting and I just assumed he
wasn't going to come to training, and then she texted
back and said, Legend really wants to get some work
in today. And it was the day after a game,
and he just wanted to fix some of the things
that he thought he wasn't doing well the day before.
And I was so impressed with his desire to get
better and to put in the work. Even the day
after game, where you know, all of us are beat
up and we want to take that day off, jump
in the ice tub and relax a little bit. Legend
wasn't about to do that. He just wanted to put
in work. So I was impressed with Legend. He's been
one of the kids that I've been working with for
quite a long time, and it's been fun to see
his success. And he's, you know, he's really deserved and
earned it. And I don't like using the word deserve lightly,
because you know, we don't deserve anything, but he really
has put in the work to get to where he's at.
Speaker 4: What makes you optimistic that a true freshman like Legend
can turn some heads and get some pet you know
how difficult he is. Come in as a true freshman
and get in the rotation, you know what I mean, Like,
gain the trust of the coach, understand the playbook.
Speaker 1: You had a block too.
Speaker 4: You can't just be a receiver, right like Bay, he
runs the football. You got some pretty good running backs
out there. You got a stock block too. You gotta
get out in front of guys. How feasible is it
to see Legend on the football field this year?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, things have to fall correctly,
and he's got to turn some even more heads, and
he's got to gain the confidence of his coach, like
you said, not just as a pass catcher, but also
as a blocker, and you know, in certain play calls.
And he's got to earn Bears trust as well. But
to be honest with you, you know, I feel like
he has the entire tool set. The only thing I
felt like he was needing to be a collegiate ready
player right away was a couple of pounds of muscle.
I mean, I mean, honestly, he's got he's got he's
got the the intelligence, he's got the route running ability,
I think he just times as the second fastest on
the team recently, and so he's got the speed and
one of and one of the things that set him apart,
you know, during the during the recruiting process, I actually
had Jay Hill and General Guildford come talk to me
about possibly playing him at corner because his hips, I mean,
he's got such great hips for a receiver. His lateral
movement is actually you know, elites, and so you don't
see that from a lot of track athletes. I mean,
and I have boasted a lot of track athletes that
could fly down the field, but the minute they're supposed
to change direction, it's not easy for him and it's
not natural for Legend. He can do both, which is
really what sets him apart. And so between the hands,
his intelligence, you know, his ability to run routes, and
then the speed and quickness, he really does have everything
he needs except for a couple of pounds of muscle,
which I know, b what he's working on right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's already put on some good weight since his
arrival in Provo, and he still has a you know,
you go through springball, you lose a little bit of weight,
a little waterway but then you get into the true offseason,
you can get bigger, faster, stronger. They're One of the
things that he said to me was that that differentiates him,
differentiated differentiates him from others. Is that, yeah, speed kills right,
like going over the top, getting behind the defense. When
I went back and I watched this film and I've
been watching him in practice, right, you know, I call
him a Deshaun Jackson light. Now, he is not as
fast yet as Deshaun Jackson, but he is fast. He
floats across the football field. He is pretty dynamic, and
he's he's shifty too. He's he's pretty good with his
jump cuts and he and he limits the amount of
contact that he takes. When you've watched him his junior
and senior year in Lehigh, how does he navigate not
getting hit Because he's been a punt returner, kick returner,
he really doesn't take big hits as a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's like I just mentioned to you. Part
of that is because of his ability to move, his quickness,
his hand eye coordination, you know, understanding you know when
to get down and when he can actually make it,
you know, make a move to get a few extra
yards and whether or not it's a big guy who's
going to hit him or small guy. He's he's extremely smart.
I mean, he really does understand the game. That was
one of the things last year as we were training,
it was it was interesting that he and I would
have these conversations where I've said, legend, right now, I'm
not training you to be a good senior athlete right now.
This is for this is for beyond. I want you
to be ready to beat collage level corners. I said,
you're not going to face any corners this year that
are going to give you any problems. I said, we gotta,
we gotta, we gotta get you ready for that next level.
Because he was that ready, you know, intellectually, and he's
a smart kid. So when you ask Kwie does that,
you know he's he's He's just that intelligent and he
understands what his body can and can't do. And once
again it gets back to that being able to be
shifty and not just fast. I mean, you've seen fast
guys are flying down the field and that safety's coming
and they can't avoid him, and they take some big
hits because they can't cut back and avoid that you
know that that oncoming, that oncoming strong safety who just
wants to kill him. And so yeah, I mean, legend's
been good at that for a while, you know, and
a lot of that is due to his intelligence and
his ability to move his hips.
Speaker 4: What your expectation you're a former crew. You keep tabs
on this Bayu Cougar football team.
Speaker 1: Uh, back to back.
Speaker 4: Seasons in which BAU has won double digit games. It
feels like we're getting back to the glory days, Toby, like,
since twenty twenty, always getting into double digit wins more
than they are single digit wins, and in the last
six seasons been pretty tremendous seeing Kilonie do what he's
done and what he's been able to accomplish. From your perspective,
what stands out to you about the Kilani era in
the modern era?
Speaker 3: You know, just the desire of people to want to
play for Kilanie. I think that's what stands out to me,
you know, is a big reason. Obviously, there's a lot
of money involved now, and and that does, you know,
tilt the playing field one way or the other. And
gratefully Pyu does have money to spend, but even before
the money, it was just there was a lot of
people that wanted to play for that culture that you know,
player first kind of mentality where Kilanie obviously loves the players,
he cares about him and uh and players want to
play for him. I mean he's so funn He's dancing
with the guys, he's celebrating with him, he's hugging him,
he's you know, he's he's he genuinely loves them, and
you can feel that it's not fake. And I think
that's that's one of the biggest things I see if
you know that's come from the Kilani culture, is just
that that that love amongst the players. And you hear
the guys talk about it as well, Like you know
when they do interviews, they say, man, I just you know, Klanie,
you know, makes them feel special. You know, from from
the you know, from Bear Bachmeier all the way down
to the you know, the eightieth guy on the roster.
I mean, they all feel like Kalanie cares about him.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: Indeed, Toby Christiansen, former b YU great wide receiver, talking
some BYU football legend Glasger Kalani Shatake and the alumni game.
Uh what under Feescie Okay. I feel like we've seen
a lot of great talent come through BYU in the
wide receiver room under Fesci Shatake. Now, I don't know
if you you've had firsthand, you know, interactions with Feesci
and been involved at all on the recruiting front and
hearing how he pitches, how he recruits how but you've
been able to see the development portion of his and
the some of the recruits that he's brought in. What
stands out to you about Fesci in that wide receiver
room right now? You got a lot of length, you
got a lot of size, you got a lot of speed.
Cody Hagen, we got four stars. Pooka Akup came from
Washington back to b YU to play for Colonia, and FESSI,
I think Samson came from you thought it b Yu.
What what stands out to you about the type of
talent that b YU is bringing in with FESSEI at
the helmet that wide receiver room.
Speaker 3: I mean they just keep bringing in you know, I
mean horses. I mean I introduced my kids to Jojo Phillips,
and my kids didn't believe. My kids didn't believe that
we played the same position. I mean, he was gorgeous
to look at. I mean, he's just this humongous athlete
and my kids, like you didn't play the same position
because I'm just little bit you don't.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's impressive the type of athletes they have,
and Fesci's doing a great job. I mean, I've only
had a little bit of interaction with Festi personally, and
most of it's been about Legend. Like during the recruiting process,
he reached out to me a couple of times and
we talked and you know, and he gave me a
cell phone and said, Toby, you know, anything we can
do for Legend, And that was most of it. And
then we've bumped into each other a few times. So
I don't know Festi that well. But everything I've seen
in you know, minor acts of tim have all been positive.
And the receiver room, I mean, I'm obviously I'm disappointed
to lose Parker, but still they have that many horses
in that room and they have you know that kind
of I mean, it almost feels like one of those
SEC schools that's not rebuilding, we're reloading and we've got
all these guys that are ready to, you know, for
their chance. And now with Parker Don there's going to
be a lot more opportunities for all these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been it's been remarkable to watch it. Look,
there was a time like in the Cody Hoffman era,
there was like Cody Hoffman, Rossoppo, Mitch Matthews, Tarren Howk.
They're all like six four, sixty five sixty six wide receivers.
And you're looking at the crew right now with Jojo
and Reggie Frisht Frishnet and uh, you know there's a
Kyler Casper the Oregon Transfer.
Speaker 1: These are big, strong, fast dudes. Uh. They all look
like they they they could.
Speaker 4: End up being tight ends, uh you know, with additional
ten to fifteen pounds, but they run like wide receivers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's Quarterbacks love those type of guys, right.
I mean, you see a guy like me who says
he's six foot but he's actually five to eleven and
change running down the field and you have a hard
time finding him. And you look and you see a
Casper running down the field, and that's an easy target.
Some inching Casper doesn't have to have any separation for
Bear to make that throw if he's in single coverage.
You know, if Bear makes a decent throw, he should
win that jump ball because most dbs are between five
ten and six foot and so anytime there's no help
that should be that should be a completion as long
as we get a decent ball. And that's that's a
lot of song for the quarterback to have those kind
of targets where you can see him right off the
bat and you know, be successful with those fifty to
fifty balls because it should be more like a seventy
thirty ball or a eighty twenty ball with these types
of guys.
Speaker 4: I started the segment talking about your stats. How quickly
will Legend Glasger surpass you know, the thousand yard mark,
the seven touchdowns receiving, I'll put I'll put money out
of the hill, get the more yards for catches because
he's getting more linear than you and you're more.
Speaker 1: Of a possession guy.
Speaker 4: That had some good speed and quickness as well some
of the best hands of Bay football history. But at
what point do you think Legends surpasses that in his career.
Speaker 3: So I'm hoping, I'm hoping he passes me in yards
and touchdowns by a sophomore year and gets the catches
by junior year. I mean, ninety three catches with this
offense and all those all those mouths to feed, that's
gonna take him a while. It'll take a while, but
yards and touchdowns, man, I hope he gets it by
his sophomore year. Shoot, I hope he gets it this year. Man,
I'm rooting for him. I'm a huge legend fan. You know,
the kid works hard, and like I said, he puts
off five ten more pounds of muscle and he really
is the total package at wide receiver. But I know
they got a lot of good guys in that room,
So I would say sophomore year for most of those,
junior year for the rest.
Speaker 4: Tobe Christians and ladies and gentlemen, tell me give us
a quick update. Also on the fam. How's the fam doing,
how's work going? Give us some updates.
Speaker 3: Family's doing great. My son got a mission call to
coach Obamba, Bolivia on Wednesday, and he's a senior playing tennesse.
He's the number one doubles at harrim In High School
and the other boys all play tennis. I never would
have thought I'd have a family of four kids playing tennis,
and uh, just finished writing a book, a middle school
level book for you know, young men young women who
are navigating, you know, overcoming adversity and playing sports at
that level. And uh and uh, you know, just just
a couple of projects I'm working on and you know,
helping some kids playing receiver. In fact, I'm sitting here
right now ready to go for a four thirty session
and about to do that in a couple of minutes
with some up and coming kids that want to be
like legend Glasger.
Speaker 4: Love that man, Uh, real quick, do you have a
title of the book? And when will it be dropping?
Speaker 3: So it's just kind of in the in the initial stages.
Just finished the eighth that it had, had had a
meeting with the publisher recently. It's called Fourth and Goal.
It's kind of you know, it's it's been fun. It's
a it's a fiction book, hopefully you know, engaging fictional
story that keeps you excited and into the book, but
also disguised as kind of a self help motivational book
for kids without them knowing that that's what it is.
I love that, man.
Speaker 4: Well, excited to see read the book and see all
the other products that you're churning out.
Speaker 1: What's your training business? Call?
Speaker 4: Do you got an LLCE? You guys set up now
with the training business.
Speaker 3: So you know what's funny you say that. We actually
a neighbor of mine started the Utah Football Academy and
we've been doing we've been doing that every Saturday, and
that's the LLC with a couple of my neighbors. The
training on the side with the receivers is just kind
of something I do. Like I said, it's not it's
just just me helping out once a week. It really
feels like a like I said, like a piano teacher
who's like, hey, I got once a week. The rest
of the week, I expect you to do this, you know,
on your own and go out there and make yourself
better and put in that time on your own. But
you know, once a week I get together with them.
But the Utah Football Academy is something my neighbors started
that I also help with. And that's something that you know,
for any kids seven to fourteen interested in getting some
extra work in, you know, that's something they can look into.
And that's been a lot of fun helping those kids.
Speaker 4: Love that South Jordan, Utah. Check it out UT Football Academy.
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Speaker 1: Toby.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you man, much love to you and your family.
Thanks for hopping on for a little keeping up with
the cougar segment. We'll see you at the alumni.
Speaker 3: Game, all right. Thanks man, I appreciate you.
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We got Steve Clemits on the live Steve, how is
your weekend?
Speaker 1: Buddy? Great.
Speaker 5: Man. I've never had a bad weekend since I joined
the workforce at fifteen years old, So it's great.
Speaker 1: I love it. Man, Glad all is well in your world.
Speaker 4: Look, I know this is a football segment, but BYU
basketball getting a sixth seed gonna be taken on either
NC State or Texas. Then they'll take on if they win,
if they survive in advance in the round of sixty four,
they'll be taking on Kennesaw State or Gonzaga. How far
do you think BYU is gonna go in this NCAA tournament.
You think they go one and done, Round of thirty two,
Sweet sixteen, Elite eight or better?
Speaker 5: No? I think ah, boy, sweet sixteen means they beat
Gonzaga on essentially their home floor. Boy, that would be
a really tough thing for them to do. But I mean,
it's March madness, dude, and we're not supposed to do
anything now that riches out and we've had these injuries
all year, and so I well, you never know. It's
why what you can't get past get through the second
day with a clean bracket. I don't think it's ever
been done. Maybe the third day, I can't remember. With
us yn't. Let's get through the first weekend without a
perfect bracket being done. It's never happened, you know, So dude,
march madness. Everybody is zero and zero and let's let's go.
Let's it's It's an exciting time to be a Coogar
fan a lot of different different ways.
Speaker 1: Right, no doubt about it. It's a great day to
be Coogary.
Speaker 4: It seems like the glory days, right, like when all
was well, when we were just doing great. The seventies
and eighties, especially the eighties were the glory days. In
my opinion, you were part of some great eras you
were part of great era as well.
Speaker 1: See don't get me wrong, but like this.
Speaker 4: Truly it it's.
Speaker 1: In all of the glory days.
Speaker 5: If you may, you will, Yeah, it really is. I mean,
bou athletics is on the rise, and not just on
the rise. I think they've always kind of been that,
but you're seeing kind of a level of consistency throughout
the athletic department, not just in say the major sports,
the football, basketball, but in other sports as well. And yeah,
like you said, it's it's great to be a Cougar
to establish this long last of tradition, but getting to
a point to where our sports or individual sports are
now becoming elite and consistently, you know, being on the
national stage and being in the hunt for national championship
at least the conference championship. And that's that goes without
saying on really every single sport and our athletic program
has a chance every year to at least win a
conference championship. And that's that's that's good, and that's good
for you know, the program, is good for alumni, is
good for Brian Santiago, you know, him stepping in and
doing this for the first time. And uh so, yeah,
all is good, man.
Speaker 4: Hey, all is well in Zion right now. Uh And look,
Camp Koalani's well underway right now too. And there's been
some great storylines coming out of camp.
Speaker 1: The one one story I'm intrigued.
Speaker 4: By right now is the quarterback two battle. What have
you been hearing about Trayson Borgay and Goldie Enick Watson? Uh,
do we have depth there at quarterback? Do we have
guys behind Bear Bachmeyer? And I know he's he's big,
he's strong, he's uh, he's he's a thick, He's a
dense dude.
Speaker 1: He does not get injured.
Speaker 4: He take a lot of hits, and he stayed healthy
for the majority of the season.
Speaker 1: But just in.
Speaker 4: Case, I got to know who's behind our guy right now,
Bear Bachmeyer, And I know Trayson's older, He's got a
lot of experience as a college football play you also
got the young buck Enick Watson. How do we feel
about right right about the depth at quarterback right now?
Speaker 5: I think we're I think we're good in the QB
room because you you have Tracy being the veteran that
he has, he has the locker room behind him, and
he's gonna he's gonna go managed a football game and
he's gonna perform. There's no substitute for experience. And it's
not a knock on Enick, but Trason right now has
the experience. He has experience in playbook, he has experienced
on the field, has experienced not just on the field,
but at the Division one level performing beating Michigan State
years ago. And I know it's been quite a while
since he's seen significant time, but that's it's almost like
muscle memory for me. Once you get in there and
you've you've experienperience. The Saturday Night the Saturday afternoon in
the fall. Then that's you know, you've got one more
arrow in the quiver than somebody like Enich that comes
off young, extremely talented. Can he surpass Tracon? Sure he
can playbook athleticism, ability and whatever is happening between the ears.
Hopefully that that comes to fruition in the fall, that
he can maybe early in the season get some reps
in the fourth quarter some of the games that might
get out of hand, so that he can get a
taste of it so it's not foreign to him when
indeed he's called upon, and maybe he makes the jump
to number two. But as I see it right now,
I think it's beatre than Trason with the experience that
he has. The nod over Enich right now. But I
mean we're Nola March, dude, So yeah.
Speaker 4: We're in the middle of March. There's plenty to be done.
But it is hard to unseat the tenured guy right
this this season, the vet that's in front of you.
I mean, you've seen many quarterback competitions, You've been a
part of many core quarterback competitions.
Speaker 1: How difficult is it.
Speaker 4: Even if you are, you know, potentially more talented, you
have better arms strengths or better athlete. It's difficult to
unseat that that tenured season vet in front of you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. It's it's really I mean, you're he's
kind of the incumbent, I guess going to use a
political term, sure, the incumbent backup too, you know, I
think a Heisman Trophy candidate probably in mid season of
his sophomore year. And so like you know, when you
have a locker room behind you, which in essence you
have the coaching staff behind you, and he's played the
role quite perfectly. I mean I seem, you know, he's
doing things for kids and in his off season, in
his off time, and.
Speaker 3: He's just he's been out there.
Speaker 5: In the community and he's become kind of a little
crowd favorite. He's one of my favorites. But I have,
you know, intimate knowledge, and you know, I've had a
conversation with him about five to ten minutes last year,
and it just seems to be a really great kid,
feed or firm, firmly plant on the ground, and he
understands his role and he relishes the role that he has,
even though it's a backup. We all want to start.
He wants to start. Sure, he wants to start, but
he gets it. He understands that he's got a role
and he's accepted the role. And I think that's why
Byu has been so good the last couple of years.
As these kids that come in transfer whatever, even maybe
you know the older upperclassman Claudie does a good job
in jay Hill until this past year in a rod
of defining everybody's roles so they have to be good
with it or if not, then yeah, there's going to
be an issue. But that's you know, when you have
a leadership and you have a successful head coach that's
done it the right way for quite amount of time.
And that's part of the culture I think he's brought
to Bayu the last ten years is that everybody has
a role, and you play your role to the best
of your ability. You do whatever you can to support
your team wherever that's a backup, whether it's starter, whether
it's special team, whether you're on the bench, Like we're
all in this together and we need everyone doing their things,
doing their playing their role, whether it's scout team or whatever,
because if it doesn't happen, then you don't have these
success successful seasons like we've seen the last three or
four years.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it.
Speaker 4: You gotta stay consistent and uh, you know, you gotta
buy into the Klona culture right now. If you're a
if you're a Byu fan, Uh I know that, uh
your body and you see it what stands after you
at the Colonia culture that you're kind of proud of
right now and watching these young men buy in and
ball out for Brigham.
Speaker 5: Well, I think number one, he's a player's coach. I
think level is a players coach. He is a players coach,
meaning he he's gonna you know that he's gonna support
you no matter what, whether it's on the field or
even off the field, like Kline's gonna have your back.
He's more he's more of a big brother without graying
the line of coach player, if that makes sense, because
once you start to gray the line and you become
guys friends, then maybe you don't have as much respect.
But I think he does a really good job of
I think being coached from Mabel who did a masterful
job of being a player's coach. And so I don't
think anyone is afraid to go talk to Clonnie about
a grievance they might have, but also telling him about
a celebration they might have in their life. And so
once you generate a culture like that, then and everybody
gets bought in. It's you know, your head coach has
your back, and your coordinators having your back and coaching staff.
Then it filters down into the players. Then that locker
roithm is solid because you've established some leadership within that
culture and you're just plug and play really every year.
And you know, and then.
Speaker 3: You go to the.
Speaker 5: Acumen as far as football knowledge. On the defensive side,
you got one of the best dcs that you know
in the last when when he was a DC. He's
on the top coordinators in the league. And you have
Gary Anderson who's been running the same type of defense
his entire career. That's helping K Pop and A Rod's
a season better. We don't have guys that have you know,
called I mean outside of defense. I mean, this is
going to be K Pop's first rodeo calling a defense.
But he's been around the game so long for so muths,
even with his brother being in the NFL, and been
around the game of football probably for twenty twenty five years,
if not longer. That's we're good, man. And that's what
I feel good about, is is it not just the
players and the talent and the depth that we're establishing
in the spring, but being able to manage that roster
with colony at the head and coach Anderson and k
Pop and A Rod and and all assistance that we've
assembled and got here. Yeah, things are Things are good.
Speaker 1: All is well.
Speaker 4: Right now, Steve Klement's talking some BYU football. I do
want to bring up a college football storyline. I don't
know if you've been keeping track of this nc Double
A versus Trinidad Chimbless Chambliss Preliminary injunction the nc DOUBLEA.
Speaker 1: This was back on March fifth.
Speaker 4: The NCUBA was appealing to Trinidad Chamberliss preliminary injunction which
granted him eligibility for the twenty twenty six season. Now
his eligibility is technically up, but he's had you know,
I mean he injuries and transfers and other things. It
was a six hundred and fifty eight page filing to
the Mississippi State Supreme Court on March fifth. The NCAA
is asking the court to overrule the injunction and expect
the ruling so like there was a judge that essentially
granted him eligibility rights.
Speaker 1: Then the NCAA counters.
Speaker 4: Now Trinidad Chamblas's lawyers have filed a response to the
NCAA's appeal of Chambliss's eligibility ruling in Missisippi State Supreme Court.
It's fairly straightforward and argues that the NCAA hasn't met
the standard for the appeal and an expedited review isn't warranted.
Speaker 1: This thing's going back and forth.
Speaker 4: What's your kind of opinion on like eligibility rules, Like
should it be just five for five, six for six?
You know, there's there's like a legal component here as well,
because like.
Speaker 1: Technically it's it's kind.
Speaker 4: Of illegal to say, like you can't go work in
for for a I guess a college football team or
nil team, Like it's not necessarily a W two employer,
it's a W nine independent contractor I mean you're just
seeing all these things occur in and you just wonder
where it's all going to play out and how it's
going to play out.
Speaker 5: Well, it's semantics, and that's why the nl it's just
a wild while lesson as Tree dqued to this right now,
because I mean, you have, whether it's basketball or football
or really any sport, you have kids that are twenty five,
twenty six, twenty seven years old that are playing collegiate athletics.
And that's just at some point you've got to stop
the madness. I mean, it's it's really yeah, whether it's
five or five or one transfer or you get it.
You know, I say, you get one transfer on the
second transfer if the coach leaves, yeah, you can be
granted a second transfer. But that's it, man, I mean
we're just like and then the nil deal with yeah exactly,
semantics is W two versus W nine, and you're really employee. Well,
he is getting paid, but he's not an employee of
the university per se. He's not working for university, but
then kind of he is. But then name images, image
likeness has been so bastardized. How they've taking name, image
and likeness and just really turned it upside down and
inside out and made it to wherever it benefits, you know,
on eighteen nineteen all the way up to twenty five
and twenty six year old now.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but a lot of things after you've done.
I know they've been calling people into Congress to see
if the government can help. And boy, I don't know,
but you got to. You gotta start making some rules
here really really quick. As far as the transfer and
maybe money or limits.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I think it's like illegal to put those parameters in place,
Like I think it's it's a legal thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I exactly. Well, and you get a legal thing
exactly because different than different lawriors in different courts and
different judges can different state different ways. Right.
Speaker 4: That's why like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer and all
these like coaches are like, hey, we need to federal
government to step in to let the federal government give
the NCAA and its sponsoring institutions legal presidents to operate
as a monopoly like they used to and have arbitrary
jurisdiction over these student athletes again and put them on
a pay scale of they only get this amount of
money with their little scholarship checks.
Speaker 1: That's what they want.
Speaker 4: They want that exemption to be able to operate as
a monopoly again.
Speaker 5: Right. Well, I'll tell you what's said is what's gone
by the wayside, is the importance of free education. No
one talks about the scholarship going to essentially a free
education for these college athletes. And in some places you're
talking about a curve of a million dollars over span
of four or five years for a really really good
education that they're going to have to utilize probably if
not a year out of college, maybe a couple of
years if they're lucky. You know, they get lucky and
they get into a pros regardless of the sport or
the Olympics or whatever. And no one talks about that anymore.
That used to be a big freaking deal. Right, You
get a free ride, you get a scholarship, free education.
You're talking to CEOs and your study groups at college,
and you've got all these connections, and you've made all
these friendships and relationships in classes and studying and this
and that and the college life and universe. Like, no
one talks about that. It's like it's just about money now.
And it's sad because the education is going to last them.
That money is going to run out at some point
if they don't do it right, and then that all
they have is their education to fall back on. Well,
if you're transferring from school to school. They don't lose.
They don't a lot of those. When I when I
transferred from Texas to the BYU, I only have three credits
transfer at thirty six that I had through two semesters
in a summer school the transfer. So if I go
transfer again to whatever Alabama or UCL or whoever, then
I probably lose another year. Well, I never graduate unless
I'm a you know, a seven year, eight year college student.
And I guess if they're going to allow eligibility to continue,
I guess maybe they can. They can get that done.
But it's sad that they're put in really the educational
portion of this as a non issue or unimportant or
at less very less stressed than it used to be.
Speaker 4: And that well, I think I think part of the
issue too is like your education that you got and
the education that I got because the hours allocated to
football strength conditioning practice, you know, everything that went into it,
Like it's hard to compete in the classroom. Your your
education minuscert wasn't the same as the education that others
got because of the hours of allocation that had to
be engaged in on the football field.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: And so like I get I agree with you, like
it's been decreased, but also the requirement on of football
and travel and you.
Speaker 1: Know, getting concussions every single day.
Speaker 4: You know, it kind of puts you at a competitive
disadvantage academically when you're trying to compete in the classroom
versus full time students.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really does, because you know, you've committed and
you've gone to school there to play a particular sport
because they're investing you in a you know, a scholarship
and a four year education at no cost pluts. We're
going to give you a little bit of extra money.
So you committed to that. So yeah, between fearful ball
player between well now until November. Yeah, you've got travel,
and you've got practice, and you've got this and you
got that. But it's still I mean what they've limited
the amount of practices you can have where it's important.
If it's stressed, then it's going to be stressed to
the individual player. And they're going to go to class
in the spring even though it's not football season, and
they're going to get back and they're they're gonna fly.
Like I know I heard this. I was up from
a third Florid administration building, and a couple of people
were talking about how they were kind of upset at
a couple of players that didn't make a class yet.
And this was a couple of weeks ago, maybe about
a month ago, and football players I'm talking about, Yeah,
when Aj and Robert had the same class and they
flew in from Ames or love It the night before,
but they were still up the next morning in class,
and so yeah, I guess it is what the coach
or the administration or athletic director stresses the importance of
class and education. And hey, Jay doesn't have to do that.
I mean, he's set, dude, we all know that. But
the fact that he was still there and Robert Wright
was still there in class after getting at at two
or three in the morning from wherever they were playing
that night, it's yeah, it's but yeah, it's it's a mess, dude,
and it's too bad.
Speaker 1: Yep, yes it is.
Speaker 4: Hey, they get there's a light at the end of
the tunnel. Like I will say this much this, let
me give you a little, uh, a little positivity here
because we are going into some negative talk here. The
fact that Indiana won the national championship one of the
worst teams in college football history tells you everything you
need to know about where we're at in the college
football landscape.
Speaker 1: In NIL.
Speaker 4: The NIL transfer portal era has allowed teams like b
y U right, teams like Indiana to kind of elevate themselves.
So I think not all is bad, not all is
wrong in the world, nor you know what I mean,
there's some good things as well. Steve Klements, Ladies and gentlemen, Steve,
we gotta let you go. Always a pleasure, always a
blessing talking ball with you. We'll catch up with you
again soon. But thanks for hopping on to talk from
Camp Kalani and college.
Speaker 5: Football sounds good. I have a good week, buddy, all.
Speaker 4: Right, appreciate you, Steve Clements, Ladies and gentlemen. That segment
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