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wide receiver six foot, one hundred ninety six pounds out

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of Alpine, Utah, American Fork High School. We have number eighty.

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Toby Christiansen on the lie. Toby, how the heck are you?

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Speaker 4: If you if you need a new suit, let me

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He would love to hook up a former BYU great

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such as yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well, you did a great job selling and I'm.

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Speaker 1: In let's go. Man.

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Speaker 4: Hey, did they have to sell you on playing in

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the alumni game? I saw your name on the roster, Toby,

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how you feeling. You're feel an athletic, You're feeling nimble,

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You're feeling quick.

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Speaker 3: No to all of those. To be honest with you,

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I uh so two years ago. I really wanted to

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do it when they asked me, and I was super excited,

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and then you know, Steve Young ended up showing up

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and being in the huddle with Steve Young. You know,

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I was even starstruck. I mean I had that moment

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where I was in there and he actually looked at

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me and he said, Toby, you do this. And I

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remember freezing like he knows my name, you know, like

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it was just.

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Speaker 1: Cool to Steve Young remember who I was.

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Speaker 3: And I remember like he said, sprint to the right.

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It was just an arrow, and he said, when you

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get done, if I haven't thrown it yet, He's like,

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plant and come back. And my left knee was swollen

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at the time, and I remember thinking like, I don't

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want to let Steve down. I don't want to let

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Steve down. Luckily, before I had to make that plant

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come back, he'd already thrown it to somebody else. And

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I was like, all right, I'm free. No, to be

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honest with you, I was.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 3: The way that works with the Alumni Tournament is that

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if you if you're on the winning team, you're automatically

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invited back to next year. And since my team won

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last year, I was automatically invited back. And I was gonna,

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you know, let somebody else do it. And I told

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my two little boys like, hey, I think I'm gonna

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let someone else have a chance. And they're like, Dad,

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please one more time. They love it. They love going

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on the field, they love hanging with the players, they

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love being a part of it. And they said, Dad,

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can you just do it one more time? And I said,

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I said, I said, all right, one more go. But

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I was really happy to be on a roster we had.

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We had a lot of young guys, so I don't

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think I'm going to be needed at all to run

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very many routes. So I'll be there more in spirit

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than actually physically.

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Speaker 4: Hey, well you know what, dude, I'm looking at the

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these all time stats in BYU football history, and bro

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like you know, being in the as a wide.

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Speaker 1: Receiver in bing football history.

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Speaker 4: If you eclipse one thousand yards receiving, you know, because

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there's been a lot of quarterbacks and a lot of

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receivers have come to you while you're You're in good company.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: You got on the career ninety three receptions, one thousand

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and sixty eight yards, eleven point five yards per reception,

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and seven tuddies.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you're ahead of.

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Speaker 4: Darius Lassiter, You're ahead of Tyler Anderson. You're ahead of

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guys that you know had done some big things Rossoppo,

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most recently Cody Epps. You're ahead of all these guys

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that BAYU fans loved once.

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Speaker 1: Upon a time.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't you know. I mean, I was there

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a long time ago. I had I had fun while

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I was there, And you know, if you put up

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some numbers while you're doing it, great. I would have

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loved to put up bigger numbers than that, but it

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is what it is, and I'm grateful for the four

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years I had. So you know, there's the numbers and

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and I had a you know, couldn't have done it

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without the quarterbacks sewing us the ball.

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Speaker 4: Well, now you're you're still giving back to BYU. Okay,

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because you've been mentoring and coaching up a current BYU

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wide receiver Legend Glasger I.

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Speaker 1: Caught up with him.

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Speaker 4: He gave a shout out to his coaching mentor and

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skill position coach, Toby Christiansend.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your connection with Legend Glasger.

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Speaker 3: So it started with comp basketball around I want to

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stay around fifth grade. My son and Legend played on

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the same comp basketball team and they played together for

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a couple of years and we got to know Legend

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pretty well, and he ended up playing a little flag

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football with us, and he was obviously a gifted athlete.

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dads approached me about, you know, where to go for

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extra work for their sons. And it was interesting. I said, listen,

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if you want if you want some speed work, go

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to Nate Solberg, and if you want some strength and training,

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go to TAT And if you want receiver specific stuff,

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go to Rossoppo. As a ross oppo is the best

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in the businessman and you'll be happy. And the dad

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looked at me, and they're like, don't you know all

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this stuff? And I said, well, I guess and they said,

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could we just pay you to do it? And it

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was kind of interesting because of the time, I was like, well,

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I've got a job and I've got this. You know,

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I can't really dedicate a ton of time to it.

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But I thought about it and I thought, you know

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what I'd love to I'd love to help some young kids,

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you know, that want to be wide receivers. And I

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kind of did it like a like a piano teacher,

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where just once a week I send a text out

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and I say, hey, this is the day I can

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do it if you guys can come. And some days

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I'll have one kid, two three kids, and some days

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I'll have twelve kids show up and they're all in

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this text thread. And Legend was one of those kids

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early on that just came and he just you know,

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I mean, byu fans are about to see his skill level,

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they're about to see his speed, They're about to see

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some of his gifts. But what I want to tell

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people is, man, this kid wanted to work. It wasn't

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just me teaching him hard work. There were times where

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I don't remember it was ninth grade or tenth grade,

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but he had a game and the next day his

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mom and I were texting and I just assumed he

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wasn't going to come to training, and then she texted

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back and said, Legend really wants to get some work

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in today. And it was the day after a game,

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and he just wanted to fix some of the things

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that he thought he wasn't doing well the day before.

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better and to put in the work. Even the day

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after game, where you know, all of us are beat

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up and we want to take that day off, jump

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in the ice tub and relax a little bit. Legend

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wasn't about to do that. He just wanted to put

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in work. So I was impressed with Legend. He's been

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one of the kids that I've been working with for

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quite a long time, and it's been fun to see

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his success. And he's, you know, he's really deserved and

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earned it. And I don't like using the word deserve lightly,

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because you know, we don't deserve anything, but he really

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has put in the work to get to where he's at.

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Speaker 4: What makes you optimistic that a true freshman like Legend

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can turn some heads and get some pet you know

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how difficult he is. Come in as a true freshman

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and get in the rotation, you know what I mean, Like,

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gain the trust of the coach, understand the playbook.

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Speaker 1: You had a block too.

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Speaker 4: You can't just be a receiver, right like Bay, he

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runs the football. You got some pretty good running backs

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out there. You got a stock block too. You gotta

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get out in front of guys. How feasible is it

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to see Legend on the football field this year?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, things have to fall correctly,

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and he's got to turn some even more heads, and

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he's got to gain the confidence of his coach, like

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you said, not just as a pass catcher, but also

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as a blocker, and you know, in certain play calls.

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to be honest with you, you know, I feel like

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he has the entire tool set. The only thing I

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felt like he was needing to be a collegiate ready

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player right away was a couple of pounds of muscle.

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I mean, I mean, honestly, he's got he's got he's

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got the the intelligence, he's got the route running ability,

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I think he just times as the second fastest on

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the team recently, and so he's got the speed and

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one of and one of the things that set him apart,

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you know, during the during the recruiting process, I actually

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had Jay Hill and General Guildford come talk to me

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about possibly playing him at corner because his hips, I mean,

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he's got such great hips for a receiver. His lateral

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movement is actually you know, elites, and so you don't

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see that from a lot of track athletes. I mean,

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and I have boasted a lot of track athletes that

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could fly down the field, but the minute they're supposed

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to change direction, it's not easy for him and it's

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not natural for Legend. He can do both, which is

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really what sets him apart. And so between the hands,

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his intelligence, you know, his ability to run routes, and

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then the speed and quickness, he really does have everything

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he needs except for a couple of pounds of muscle,

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which I know, b what he's working on right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's already put on some good weight since his

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arrival in Provo, and he still has a you know,

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you go through springball, you lose a little bit of weight,

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a little waterway but then you get into the true offseason,

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you can get bigger, faster, stronger. They're One of the

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things that he said to me was that that differentiates him,

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differentiated differentiates him from others. Is that, yeah, speed kills right,

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like going over the top, getting behind the defense. When

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I went back and I watched this film and I've

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been watching him in practice, right, you know, I call

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him a Deshaun Jackson light. Now, he is not as

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fast yet as Deshaun Jackson, but he is fast. He

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floats across the football field. He is pretty dynamic, and

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jump cuts and he and he limits the amount of

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contact that he takes. When you've watched him his junior

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and senior year in Lehigh, how does he navigate not

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getting hit Because he's been a punt returner, kick returner,

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he really doesn't take big hits as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's like I just mentioned to you. Part

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of that is because of his ability to move, his quickness,

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his hand eye coordination, you know, understanding you know when

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to get down and when he can actually make it,

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you know, make a move to get a few extra

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yards and whether or not it's a big guy who's

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going to hit him or small guy. He's he's extremely smart.

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I mean, he really does understand the game. That was

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one of the things last year as we were training,

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it was it was interesting that he and I would

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have these conversations where I've said, legend, right now, I'm

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not training you to be a good senior athlete right now.

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to be ready to beat collage level corners. I said,

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you're not going to face any corners this year that

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are going to give you any problems. I said, we gotta,

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we gotta, we gotta get you ready for that next level.

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Because he was that ready, you know, intellectually, and he's

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a smart kid. So when you ask Kwie does that,

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you know he's he's He's just that intelligent and he

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understands what his body can and can't do. And once

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again it gets back to that being able to be

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shifty and not just fast. I mean, you've seen fast

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guys are flying down the field and that safety's coming

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and they can't avoid him, and they take some big

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hits because they can't cut back and avoid that you

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know that that oncoming, that oncoming strong safety who just

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wants to kill him. And so yeah, I mean, legend's

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been good at that for a while, you know, and

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a lot of that is due to his intelligence and

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his ability to move his hips.

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Speaker 4: What your expectation you're a former crew. You keep tabs

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on this Bayu Cougar football team.

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Speaker 1: Uh, back to back.

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Speaker 4: Seasons in which BAU has won double digit games. It

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feels like we're getting back to the glory days, Toby, like,

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since twenty twenty, always getting into double digit wins more

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than they are single digit wins, and in the last

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six seasons been pretty tremendous seeing Kilonie do what he's

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done and what he's been able to accomplish. From your perspective,

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what stands out to you about the Kilani era in

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the modern era?

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Speaker 3: You know, just the desire of people to want to

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play for Kilanie. I think that's what stands out to me,

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you know, is a big reason. Obviously, there's a lot

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of money involved now, and and that does, you know,

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tilt the playing field one way or the other. And

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gratefully Pyu does have money to spend, but even before

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the money, it was just there was a lot of

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people that wanted to play for that culture that you know,

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player first kind of mentality where Kilanie obviously loves the players,

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he cares about him and uh and players want to

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play for him. I mean he's so funn He's dancing

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with the guys, he's celebrating with him, he's hugging him,

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he's you know, he's he's he genuinely loves them, and

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you can feel that it's not fake. And I think

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that's that's one of the biggest things I see if

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you know that's come from the Kilani culture, is just

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that that that love amongst the players. And you hear

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the guys talk about it as well, Like you know

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when they do interviews, they say, man, I just you know, Klanie,

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you know, makes them feel special. You know, from from

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the you know, from Bear Bachmeier all the way down

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to the you know, the eightieth guy on the roster.

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I mean, they all feel like Kalanie cares about him.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, Toby Christiansen, former b YU great wide receiver, talking

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some BYU football legend Glasger Kalani Shatake and the alumni game.

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Uh what under Feescie Okay. I feel like we've seen

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a lot of great talent come through BYU in the

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wide receiver room under Fesci Shatake. Now, I don't know

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if you you've had firsthand, you know, interactions with Feesci

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and been involved at all on the recruiting front and

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hearing how he pitches, how he recruits how but you've

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been able to see the development portion of his and

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the some of the recruits that he's brought in. What

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stands out to you about Fesci in that wide receiver

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room right now? You got a lot of length, you

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got a lot of size, you got a lot of speed.

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Cody Hagen, we got four stars. Pooka Akup came from

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Washington back to b YU to play for Colonia, and FESSI,

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I think Samson came from you thought it b Yu.

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What what stands out to you about the type of

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talent that b YU is bringing in with FESSEI at

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the helmet that wide receiver room.

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Speaker 3: I mean they just keep bringing in you know, I

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mean horses. I mean I introduced my kids to Jojo Phillips,

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and my kids didn't believe. My kids didn't believe that

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we played the same position. I mean, he was gorgeous

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to look at. I mean, he's just this humongous athlete

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and my kids, like you didn't play the same position

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because I'm just little bit you don't.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's impressive the type of athletes they have,

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and Fesci's doing a great job. I mean, I've only

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had a little bit of interaction with Festi personally, and

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most of it's been about Legend. Like during the recruiting process,

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he reached out to me a couple of times and

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we talked and you know, and he gave me a

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cell phone and said, Toby, you know, anything we can

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do for Legend, And that was most of it. And

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then we've bumped into each other a few times. So

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I don't know Festi that well. But everything I've seen

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in you know, minor acts of tim have all been positive.

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And the receiver room, I mean, I'm obviously I'm disappointed

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to lose Parker, but still they have that many horses

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in that room and they have you know that kind

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of I mean, it almost feels like one of those

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SEC schools that's not rebuilding, we're reloading and we've got

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all these guys that are ready to, you know, for

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their chance. And now with Parker Don there's going to

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be a lot more opportunities for all these guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been it's been remarkable to watch it. Look,

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there was a time like in the Cody Hoffman era,

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there was like Cody Hoffman, Rossoppo, Mitch Matthews, Tarren Howk.

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They're all like six four, sixty five sixty six wide receivers.

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And you're looking at the crew right now with Jojo

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and Reggie Frisht Frishnet and uh, you know there's a

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Kyler Casper the Oregon Transfer.

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Speaker 1: These are big, strong, fast dudes. Uh. They all look

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like they they they could.

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Speaker 4: End up being tight ends, uh you know, with additional

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ten to fifteen pounds, but they run like wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's Quarterbacks love those type of guys, right.

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I mean, you see a guy like me who says

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he's six foot but he's actually five to eleven and

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change running down the field and you have a hard

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time finding him. And you look and you see a

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Casper running down the field, and that's an easy target.

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Some inching Casper doesn't have to have any separation for

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Bear to make that throw if he's in single coverage.

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You know, if Bear makes a decent throw, he should

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win that jump ball because most dbs are between five

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ten and six foot and so anytime there's no help

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that should be that should be a completion as long

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as we get a decent ball. And that's that's a

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lot of song for the quarterback to have those kind

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of targets where you can see him right off the

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bat and you know, be successful with those fifty to

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fifty balls because it should be more like a seventy

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thirty ball or a eighty twenty ball with these types

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of guys.

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Speaker 4: I started the segment talking about your stats. How quickly

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will Legend Glasger surpass you know, the thousand yard mark,

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the seven touchdowns receiving, I'll put I'll put money out

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of the hill, get the more yards for catches because

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he's getting more linear than you and you're more.

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Speaker 1: Of a possession guy.

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Speaker 4: That had some good speed and quickness as well some

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of the best hands of Bay football history. But at

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what point do you think Legends surpasses that in his career.

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Speaker 3: So I'm hoping, I'm hoping he passes me in yards

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and touchdowns by a sophomore year and gets the catches

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by junior year. I mean, ninety three catches with this

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offense and all those all those mouths to feed, that's

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gonna take him a while. It'll take a while, but

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yards and touchdowns, man, I hope he gets it by

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his sophomore year. Shoot, I hope he gets it this year. Man,

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I'm rooting for him. I'm a huge legend fan. You know,

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the kid works hard, and like I said, he puts

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off five ten more pounds of muscle and he really

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is the total package at wide receiver. But I know

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they got a lot of good guys in that room,

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So I would say sophomore year for most of those,

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junior year for the rest.

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Speaker 4: Tobe Christians and ladies and gentlemen, tell me give us

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a quick update. Also on the fam. How's the fam doing,

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how's work going? Give us some updates.

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Speaker 3: Family's doing great. My son got a mission call to

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coach Obamba, Bolivia on Wednesday, and he's a senior playing tennesse.

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He's the number one doubles at harrim In High School

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and the other boys all play tennis. I never would

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have thought I'd have a family of four kids playing tennis,

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and uh, just finished writing a book, a middle school

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level book for you know, young men young women who

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are navigating, you know, overcoming adversity and playing sports at

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that level. And uh and uh, you know, just just

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a couple of projects I'm working on and you know,

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helping some kids playing receiver. In fact, I'm sitting here

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right now ready to go for a four thirty session

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and about to do that in a couple of minutes

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with some up and coming kids that want to be

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like legend Glasger.

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Speaker 4: Love that man, Uh, real quick, do you have a

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title of the book? And when will it be dropping?

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Speaker 3: So it's just kind of in the in the initial stages.

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Just finished the eighth that it had, had had a

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meeting with the publisher recently. It's called Fourth and Goal.

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It's kind of you know, it's it's been fun. It's

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a it's a fiction book, hopefully you know, engaging fictional

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story that keeps you excited and into the book, but

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also disguised as kind of a self help motivational book

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for kids without them knowing that that's what it is.

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I love that, man.

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Speaker 4: Well, excited to see read the book and see all

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the other products that you're churning out.

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Speaker 1: What's your training business? Call?

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Speaker 4: Do you got an LLCE? You guys set up now

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with the training business.

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Speaker 3: So you know what's funny you say that. We actually

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a neighbor of mine started the Utah Football Academy and

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we've been doing we've been doing that every Saturday, and

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that's the LLC with a couple of my neighbors. The

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training on the side with the receivers is just kind

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of something I do. Like I said, it's not it's

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just just me helping out once a week. It really

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feels like a like I said, like a piano teacher

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who's like, hey, I got once a week. The rest

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of the week, I expect you to do this, you know,

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on your own and go out there and make yourself

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better and put in that time on your own. But

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you know, once a week I get together with them.

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But the Utah Football Academy is something my neighbors started

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that I also help with. And that's something that you know,

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for any kids seven to fourteen interested in getting some

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extra work in, you know, that's something they can look into.

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And that's been a lot of fun helping those kids.

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Speaker 4: Love that South Jordan, Utah. Check it out UT Football Academy.

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That's UT Football Academy.

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Speaker 1: Toby.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you man, much love to you and your family.

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Thanks for hopping on for a little keeping up with

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the cougar segment. We'll see you at the alumni.

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Speaker 3: Game, all right. Thanks man, I appreciate you.

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We got Steve Clemits on the live Steve, how is

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your weekend?

521
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Speaker 1: Buddy? Great.

522
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Speaker 5: Man. I've never had a bad weekend since I joined

523
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the workforce at fifteen years old, So it's great.

524
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Speaker 1: I love it. Man, Glad all is well in your world.

525
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: Look, I know this is a football segment, but BYU

526
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,160
basketball getting a sixth seed gonna be taken on either

527
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NC State or Texas. Then they'll take on if they win,

528
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if they survive in advance in the round of sixty four,

529
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they'll be taking on Kennesaw State or Gonzaga. How far

530
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do you think BYU is gonna go in this NCAA tournament.

531
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You think they go one and done, Round of thirty two,

532
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Sweet sixteen, Elite eight or better?

533
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Speaker 5: No? I think ah, boy, sweet sixteen means they beat

534
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Gonzaga on essentially their home floor. Boy, that would be

535
00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:58,519
a really tough thing for them to do. But I mean,

536
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it's March madness, dude, and we're not supposed to do

537
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,559
anything now that riches out and we've had these injuries

538
00:24:05,599 --> 00:24:10,920
all year, and so I well, you never know. It's

539
00:24:11,079 --> 00:24:14,799
why what you can't get past get through the second

540
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day with a clean bracket. I don't think it's ever

541
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been done. Maybe the third day, I can't remember. With

542
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us yn't. Let's get through the first weekend without a

543
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perfect bracket being done. It's never happened, you know, So dude,

544
00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:33,079
march madness. Everybody is zero and zero and let's let's go.

545
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Let's it's It's an exciting time to be a Coogar

546
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fan a lot of different different ways.

547
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Speaker 1: Right, no doubt about it. It's a great day to

548
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be Coogary.

549
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Speaker 4: It seems like the glory days, right, like when all

550
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was well, when we were just doing great. The seventies

551
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and eighties, especially the eighties were the glory days. In

552
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my opinion, you were part of some great eras you

553
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were part of great era as well.

554
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Speaker 1: See don't get me wrong, but like this.

555
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Speaker 4: Truly it it's.

556
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Speaker 1: In all of the glory days.

557
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Speaker 5: If you may, you will, Yeah, it really is. I mean,

558
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,200
bou athletics is on the rise, and not just on

559
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,039
the rise. I think they've always kind of been that,

560
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but you're seeing kind of a level of consistency throughout

561
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,119
the athletic department, not just in say the major sports,

562
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,720
the football, basketball, but in other sports as well. And yeah,

563
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,039
like you said, it's it's great to be a Cougar

564
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,559
to establish this long last of tradition, but getting to

565
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a point to where our sports or individual sports are

566
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now becoming elite and consistently, you know, being on the

567
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national stage and being in the hunt for national championship

568
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at least the conference championship. And that's that goes without

569
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saying on really every single sport and our athletic program

570
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:56,960
has a chance every year to at least win a

571
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conference championship. And that's that's that's good, and that's good

572
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:05,240
for you know, the program, is good for alumni, is

573
00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:09,599
good for Brian Santiago, you know, him stepping in and

574
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doing this for the first time. And uh so, yeah,

575
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all is good, man.

576
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Speaker 4: Hey, all is well in Zion right now. Uh And look,

577
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Camp Koalani's well underway right now too. And there's been

578
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some great storylines coming out of camp.

579
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Speaker 1: The one one story I'm intrigued.

580
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:31,559
Speaker 4: By right now is the quarterback two battle. What have

581
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,759
you been hearing about Trayson Borgay and Goldie Enick Watson? Uh,

582
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do we have depth there at quarterback? Do we have

583
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guys behind Bear Bachmeyer? And I know he's he's big,

584
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he's strong, he's uh, he's he's a thick, He's a

585
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,200
dense dude.

586
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Speaker 1: He does not get injured.

587
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Speaker 4: He take a lot of hits, and he stayed healthy

588
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for the majority of the season.

589
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Speaker 1: But just in.

590
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Speaker 4: Case, I got to know who's behind our guy right now,

591
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Bear Bachmeyer, And I know Trayson's older, He's got a

592
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lot of experience as a college football play you also

593
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got the young buck Enick Watson. How do we feel

594
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about right right about the depth at quarterback right now?

595
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Speaker 5: I think we're I think we're good in the QB

596
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room because you you have Tracy being the veteran that

597
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he has, he has the locker room behind him, and

598
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:26,880
he's gonna he's gonna go managed a football game and

599
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,799
he's gonna perform. There's no substitute for experience. And it's

600
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not a knock on Enick, but Trason right now has

601
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the experience. He has experience in playbook, he has experienced

602
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on the field, has experienced not just on the field,

603
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but at the Division one level performing beating Michigan State

604
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:49,759
years ago. And I know it's been quite a while

605
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:55,319
since he's seen significant time, but that's it's almost like

606
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muscle memory for me. Once you get in there and

607
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you've you've experienperience. The Saturday Night the Saturday afternoon in

608
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the fall. Then that's you know, you've got one more

609
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arrow in the quiver than somebody like Enich that comes

610
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off young, extremely talented. Can he surpass Tracon? Sure he

611
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can playbook athleticism, ability and whatever is happening between the ears.

612
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Hopefully that that comes to fruition in the fall, that

613
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he can maybe early in the season get some reps

614
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in the fourth quarter some of the games that might

615
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,880
get out of hand, so that he can get a

616
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taste of it so it's not foreign to him when

617
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indeed he's called upon, and maybe he makes the jump

618
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to number two. But as I see it right now,

619
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I think it's beatre than Trason with the experience that

620
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he has. The nod over Enich right now. But I

621
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,160
mean we're Nola March, dude, So yeah.

622
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Speaker 4: We're in the middle of March. There's plenty to be done.

623
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,279
But it is hard to unseat the tenured guy right

624
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this this season, the vet that's in front of you.

625
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440
I mean, you've seen many quarterback competitions, You've been a

626
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,279
part of many core quarterback competitions.

627
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: How difficult is it.

628
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Speaker 4: Even if you are, you know, potentially more talented, you

629
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
have better arms strengths or better athlete. It's difficult to

630
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,720
unseat that that tenured season vet in front of you.

631
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. It's it's really I mean, you're he's

632
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720
kind of the incumbent, I guess going to use a

633
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:40,799
political term, sure, the incumbent backup too, you know, I

634
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:45,119
think a Heisman Trophy candidate probably in mid season of

635
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,519
his sophomore year. And so like you know, when you

636
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,839
have a locker room behind you, which in essence you

637
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,440
have the coaching staff behind you, and he's played the

638
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:59,319
role quite perfectly. I mean I seem, you know, he's

639
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,920
doing things for kids and in his off season, in

640
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:03,319
his off time, and.

641
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:06,559
Speaker 3: He's just he's been out there.

642
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,799
Speaker 5: In the community and he's become kind of a little

643
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:13,799
crowd favorite. He's one of my favorites. But I have,

644
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,799
you know, intimate knowledge, and you know, I've had a

645
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:20,119
conversation with him about five to ten minutes last year,

646
00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:24,279
and it just seems to be a really great kid,

647
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,680
feed or firm, firmly plant on the ground, and he

648
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:32,799
understands his role and he relishes the role that he has,

649
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160
even though it's a backup. We all want to start.

650
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,839
He wants to start. Sure, he wants to start, but

651
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,279
he gets it. He understands that he's got a role

652
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920
and he's accepted the role. And I think that's why

653
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,519
Byu has been so good the last couple of years.

654
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:51,319
As these kids that come in transfer whatever, even maybe

655
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,480
you know the older upperclassman Claudie does a good job

656
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,880
in jay Hill until this past year in a rod

657
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:05,000
of defining everybody's roles so they have to be good

658
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:08,720
with it or if not, then yeah, there's going to

659
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,279
be an issue. But that's you know, when you have

660
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,640
a leadership and you have a successful head coach that's

661
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,759
done it the right way for quite amount of time.

662
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:20,400
And that's part of the culture I think he's brought

663
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,599
to Bayu the last ten years is that everybody has

664
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,039
a role, and you play your role to the best

665
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,279
of your ability. You do whatever you can to support

666
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:35,960
your team wherever that's a backup, whether it's starter, whether

667
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,279
it's special team, whether you're on the bench, Like we're

668
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:44,440
all in this together and we need everyone doing their things,

669
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,640
doing their playing their role, whether it's scout team or whatever,

670
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:54,759
because if it doesn't happen, then you don't have these

671
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:58,839
success successful seasons like we've seen the last three or

672
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four years.

673
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Speaker 1: No doubt about it.

674
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,519
Speaker 4: You gotta stay consistent and uh, you know, you gotta

675
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,000
buy into the Klona culture right now. If you're a

676
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,799
if you're a Byu fan, Uh I know that, uh

677
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680
your body and you see it what stands after you

678
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,359
at the Colonia culture that you're kind of proud of

679
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:21,480
right now and watching these young men buy in and

680
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:23,000
ball out for Brigham.

681
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:27,359
Speaker 5: Well, I think number one, he's a player's coach. I

682
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,319
think level is a players coach. He is a players coach,

683
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:36,640
meaning he he's gonna you know that he's gonna support

684
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,720
you no matter what, whether it's on the field or

685
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:44,119
even off the field, like Kline's gonna have your back.

686
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:49,839
He's more he's more of a big brother without graying

687
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,640
the line of coach player, if that makes sense, because

688
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,279
once you start to gray the line and you become

689
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,880
guys friends, then maybe you don't have as much respect.

690
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,799
But I think he does a really good job of

691
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,000
I think being coached from Mabel who did a masterful

692
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:13,480
job of being a player's coach. And so I don't

693
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,319
think anyone is afraid to go talk to Clonnie about

694
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,359
a grievance they might have, but also telling him about

695
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
a celebration they might have in their life. And so

696
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:29,519
once you generate a culture like that, then and everybody

697
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:33,880
gets bought in. It's you know, your head coach has

698
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,039
your back, and your coordinators having your back and coaching staff.

699
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,240
Then it filters down into the players. Then that locker

700
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:47,000
roithm is solid because you've established some leadership within that

701
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:52,079
culture and you're just plug and play really every year.

702
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,559
And you know, and then.

703
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,319
Speaker 3: You go to the.

704
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: Acumen as far as football knowledge. On the defensive side,

705
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,119
you got one of the best dcs that you know

706
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,119
in the last when when he was a DC. He's

707
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,719
on the top coordinators in the league. And you have

708
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,360
Gary Anderson who's been running the same type of defense

709
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,800
his entire career. That's helping K Pop and A Rod's

710
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,320
a season better. We don't have guys that have you know,

711
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,039
called I mean outside of defense. I mean, this is

712
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,840
going to be K Pop's first rodeo calling a defense.

713
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,920
But he's been around the game so long for so muths,

714
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,800
even with his brother being in the NFL, and been

715
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,000
around the game of football probably for twenty twenty five years,

716
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:44,159
if not longer. That's we're good, man. And that's what

717
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,719
I feel good about, is is it not just the

718
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,719
players and the talent and the depth that we're establishing

719
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,760
in the spring, but being able to manage that roster

720
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:58,159
with colony at the head and coach Anderson and k

721
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,239
Pop and A Rod and and all assistance that we've

722
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,039
assembled and got here. Yeah, things are Things are good.

723
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: All is well.

724
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 4: Right now, Steve Klement's talking some BYU football. I do

725
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,800
want to bring up a college football storyline. I don't

726
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,320
know if you've been keeping track of this nc Double

727
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,920
A versus Trinidad Chimbless Chambliss Preliminary injunction the nc DOUBLEA.

728
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: This was back on March fifth.

729
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: The NCUBA was appealing to Trinidad Chamberliss preliminary injunction which

730
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,159
granted him eligibility for the twenty twenty six season. Now

731
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,079
his eligibility is technically up, but he's had you know,

732
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:41,280
I mean he injuries and transfers and other things. It

733
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,239
was a six hundred and fifty eight page filing to

734
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,719
the Mississippi State Supreme Court on March fifth. The NCAA

735
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000
is asking the court to overrule the injunction and expect

736
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,400
the ruling so like there was a judge that essentially

737
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,920
granted him eligibility rights.

738
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: Then the NCAA counters.

739
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:04,159
Speaker 4: Now Trinidad Chamblas's lawyers have filed a response to the

740
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,960
NCAA's appeal of Chambliss's eligibility ruling in Missisippi State Supreme Court.

741
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,079
It's fairly straightforward and argues that the NCAA hasn't met

742
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:16,360
the standard for the appeal and an expedited review isn't warranted.

743
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: This thing's going back and forth.

744
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:23,679
Speaker 4: What's your kind of opinion on like eligibility rules, Like

745
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,519
should it be just five for five, six for six?

746
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,840
You know, there's there's like a legal component here as well,

747
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,239
because like.

748
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Technically it's it's kind.

749
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 4: Of illegal to say, like you can't go work in

750
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,000
for for a I guess a college football team or

751
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,760
nil team, Like it's not necessarily a W two employer,

752
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,679
it's a W nine independent contractor I mean you're just

753
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,880
seeing all these things occur in and you just wonder

754
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,480
where it's all going to play out and how it's

755
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,119
going to play out.

756
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,599
Speaker 5: Well, it's semantics, and that's why the nl it's just

757
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,559
a wild while lesson as Tree dqued to this right now,

758
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:03,840
because I mean, you have, whether it's basketball or football

759
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,559
or really any sport, you have kids that are twenty five,

760
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:13,000
twenty six, twenty seven years old that are playing collegiate athletics.

761
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:17,639
And that's just at some point you've got to stop

762
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,119
the madness. I mean, it's it's really yeah, whether it's

763
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,679
five or five or one transfer or you get it.

764
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,079
You know, I say, you get one transfer on the

765
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,039
second transfer if the coach leaves, yeah, you can be

766
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:33,239
granted a second transfer. But that's it, man, I mean

767
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,920
we're just like and then the nil deal with yeah exactly,

768
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:40,960
semantics is W two versus W nine, and you're really employee. Well,

769
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,760
he is getting paid, but he's not an employee of

770
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,199
the university per se. He's not working for university, but

771
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,880
then kind of he is. But then name images, image

772
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,280
likeness has been so bastardized. How they've taking name, image

773
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,960
and likeness and just really turned it upside down and

774
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,880
inside out and made it to wherever it benefits, you know,

775
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,840
on eighteen nineteen all the way up to twenty five

776
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,159
and twenty six year old now.

777
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,079
Speaker 3: And so.

778
00:38:14,679 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 5: I don't know, but a lot of things after you've done.

779
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,519
I know they've been calling people into Congress to see

780
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:24,360
if the government can help. And boy, I don't know,

781
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,239
but you got to. You gotta start making some rules

782
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,559
here really really quick. As far as the transfer and

783
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:33,719
maybe money or limits.

784
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.

785
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 4: I think it's like illegal to put those parameters in place,

786
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,320
Like I think it's it's a legal thing.

787
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I exactly. Well, and you get a legal thing

788
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,159
exactly because different than different lawriors in different courts and

789
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:54,039
different judges can different state different ways. Right.

790
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 4: That's why like Nick Saban and Urban Meyer and all

791
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,239
these like coaches are like, hey, we need to federal

792
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,400
government to step in to let the federal government give

793
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:10,960
the NCAA and its sponsoring institutions legal presidents to operate

794
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:14,960
as a monopoly like they used to and have arbitrary

795
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,559
jurisdiction over these student athletes again and put them on

796
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,239
a pay scale of they only get this amount of

797
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,440
money with their little scholarship checks.

798
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: That's what they want.

799
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:31,199
Speaker 4: They want that exemption to be able to operate as

800
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,199
a monopoly again.

801
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 5: Right. Well, I'll tell you what's said is what's gone

802
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,880
by the wayside, is the importance of free education. No

803
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,239
one talks about the scholarship going to essentially a free

804
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,199
education for these college athletes. And in some places you're

805
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,000
talking about a curve of a million dollars over span

806
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:58,000
of four or five years for a really really good

807
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:02,440
education that they're going to have to utilize probably if

808
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,679
not a year out of college, maybe a couple of

809
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,159
years if they're lucky. You know, they get lucky and

810
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,880
they get into a pros regardless of the sport or

811
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,800
the Olympics or whatever. And no one talks about that anymore.

812
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,840
That used to be a big freaking deal. Right, You

813
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920
get a free ride, you get a scholarship, free education.

814
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,440
You're talking to CEOs and your study groups at college,

815
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:29,199
and you've got all these connections, and you've made all

816
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:36,079
these friendships and relationships in classes and studying and this

817
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,800
and that and the college life and universe. Like, no

818
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,800
one talks about that. It's like it's just about money now.

819
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,880
And it's sad because the education is going to last them.

820
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,480
That money is going to run out at some point

821
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,360
if they don't do it right, and then that all

822
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,519
they have is their education to fall back on. Well,

823
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,719
if you're transferring from school to school. They don't lose.

824
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,480
They don't a lot of those. When I when I

825
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,920
transferred from Texas to the BYU, I only have three credits

826
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,280
transfer at thirty six that I had through two semesters

827
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,960
in a summer school the transfer. So if I go

828
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:20,000
transfer again to whatever Alabama or UCL or whoever, then

829
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,559
I probably lose another year. Well, I never graduate unless

830
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:28,199
I'm a you know, a seven year, eight year college student.

831
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,440
And I guess if they're going to allow eligibility to continue,

832
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,400
I guess maybe they can. They can get that done.

833
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,119
But it's sad that they're put in really the educational

834
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:48,159
portion of this as a non issue or unimportant or

835
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:51,719
at less very less stressed than it used to be.

836
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: And that well, I think I think part of the

837
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,239
issue too is like your education that you got and

838
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,920
the education that I got because the hours allocated to

839
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,880
football strength conditioning practice, you know, everything that went into it,

840
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,800
Like it's hard to compete in the classroom. Your your

841
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,000
education minuscert wasn't the same as the education that others

842
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:13,920
got because of the hours of allocation that had to

843
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,519
be engaged in on the football field.

844
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:19,159
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

845
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 4: And so like I get I agree with you, like

846
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,159
it's been decreased, but also the requirement on of football

847
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,760
and travel and you.

848
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,079
Speaker 1: Know, getting concussions every single day.

849
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 4: You know, it kind of puts you at a competitive

850
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,519
disadvantage academically when you're trying to compete in the classroom

851
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:37,320
versus full time students.

852
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really does, because you know, you've committed and

853
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,639
you've gone to school there to play a particular sport

854
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,639
because they're investing you in a you know, a scholarship

855
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,599
and a four year education at no cost pluts. We're

856
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,800
going to give you a little bit of extra money.

857
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,239
So you committed to that. So yeah, between fearful ball

858
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,920
player between well now until November. Yeah, you've got travel,

859
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,960
and you've got practice, and you've got this and you

860
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,840
got that. But it's still I mean what they've limited

861
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:18,440
the amount of practices you can have where it's important.

862
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,079
If it's stressed, then it's going to be stressed to

863
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,400
the individual player. And they're going to go to class

864
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,679
in the spring even though it's not football season, and

865
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000
they're going to get back and they're they're gonna fly.

866
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:33,840
Like I know I heard this. I was up from

867
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,079
a third Florid administration building, and a couple of people

868
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:42,039
were talking about how they were kind of upset at

869
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:47,360
a couple of players that didn't make a class yet.

870
00:43:48,519 --> 00:43:51,159
And this was a couple of weeks ago, maybe about

871
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:55,079
a month ago, and football players I'm talking about, Yeah,

872
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:59,559
when Aj and Robert had the same class and they

873
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,800
flew in from Ames or love It the night before,

874
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:07,519
but they were still up the next morning in class,

875
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,400
and so yeah, I guess it is what the coach

876
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,519
or the administration or athletic director stresses the importance of

877
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,480
class and education. And hey, Jay doesn't have to do that.

878
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:24,960
I mean, he's set, dude, we all know that. But

879
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,119
the fact that he was still there and Robert Wright

880
00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,079
was still there in class after getting at at two

881
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:31,920
or three in the morning from wherever they were playing

882
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,760
that night, it's yeah, it's but yeah, it's it's a mess, dude,

883
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:38,880
and it's too bad.

884
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Yep, yes it is.

885
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: Hey, they get there's a light at the end of

886
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,320
the tunnel. Like I will say this much this, let

887
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,239
me give you a little, uh, a little positivity here

888
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,760
because we are going into some negative talk here. The

889
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,559
fact that Indiana won the national championship one of the

890
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:58,559
worst teams in college football history tells you everything you

891
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:01,320
need to know about where we're at in the college

892
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,199
football landscape.

893
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:02,639
Speaker 1: In NIL.

894
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:05,519
Speaker 4: The NIL transfer portal era has allowed teams like b

895
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:11,519
y U right, teams like Indiana to kind of elevate themselves.

896
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:13,960
So I think not all is bad, not all is

897
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,519
wrong in the world, nor you know what I mean,

898
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,320
there's some good things as well. Steve Klements, Ladies and gentlemen, Steve,

899
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:21,320
we gotta let you go. Always a pleasure, always a

900
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,119
blessing talking ball with you. We'll catch up with you

901
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:25,280
again soon. But thanks for hopping on to talk from

902
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,800
Camp Kalani and college.

903
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 5: Football sounds good. I have a good week, buddy, all.

904
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,159
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