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<v Speaker 1>He was a comedical podcast episode four ninety nine. I'm Brando,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here through and every'ere talking about how far we

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<v Speaker 1>like to push our decks.

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<v Speaker 2>Now and our themes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do a regular micro Oh yeah, we should.

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<v Speaker 3>We should do a mic test. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it tells us we're sounding good.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Brando's not too loud. I'm not too loud. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the loud one.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, Oh, he's shaking his head. Give us the

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<v Speaker 1>up and you know what that means. Hey, Ryan, We're

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<v Speaker 1>back for yet another whirlwind adventure.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing good? What is going down?

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<v Speaker 1>Whole bunch is going down. We've got a fairly interesting

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<v Speaker 1>talk of topic to talk about today. We've got some

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<v Speaker 1>stories to tell, some people to thank, some general c

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<v Speaker 1>CEO business to get to. Before we get to any

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<v Speaker 1>of that, we have to thank our official business, Daddy's

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<v Speaker 1>off all your cards, your sealed product, your games, your

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<v Speaker 1>play mats, your dice or boxes, and any other miscellaneous

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<v Speaker 1>things that they happened to have in the shop. They

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<v Speaker 1>will sell it to you for less as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you tell them that we sent you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, and I know what you're gonna get. What am

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<v Speaker 3>I gonna all of the Edge of Eternity stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>you love so much. I'm really not into it yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what. I was very into kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>what it looked like and the stick of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I still am because stations can be

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<v Speaker 3>your commander. Sure, I like that. And that goes back

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<v Speaker 3>to me like liking vehicles like you know I do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So when it comes out or if I want to

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<v Speaker 3>pre order some, I'm gonna go use CCO Nation promo code.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get to discount. I'm gonna buy it anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>I might as well spend less money on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Quick spoiler, We are recording this significantly earlier than

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<v Speaker 1>we normally would, so like as we're speaking, the Edge

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<v Speaker 1>of Eternity preview panel is actually ongoing as we're recording,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't have all the information yet. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen a few of the alt arts, we've seen some

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<v Speaker 1>of the basic lands, We've seen some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>so far, and I personally, at this exact moment, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's final fantasy burnout. Maybe it's excitement burnout. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm less excited for this than I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be. I really did think I was really

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it because I like space. I like

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<v Speaker 1>bubble helmets, like dinosaurs with laser guns, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen any of that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that that sounds to me kind of like Infinity,

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<v Speaker 3>And I know that you didn't like that either. Now

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you don't like space. I got you covered on this, though.

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<v Speaker 3>What I am and what I think you can be

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<v Speaker 3>excited for, tell me, is a regular, laterly priced magic set.

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<v Speaker 3>What that isn't of some obtuse frickin universe beyond. It

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<v Speaker 3>is a in universe magic set that is completely normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as in universe and normal as they've been since

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<v Speaker 1>they opened the Omen Paths and just kind of started

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<v Speaker 1>doing whatever they want. And you know what else do

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<v Speaker 1>is And I don't want to sound like a magic

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<v Speaker 1>hipster when I say that, or like a boomer or

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<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff, but well, you are a boomer.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I have certainly gone on record as

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I wish that they would get away from

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<v Speaker 1>the gate Watch and they just do some episodic stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to like refresh the brand.

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<v Speaker 3>And then come back on episodic stuff. Can you imagine we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do some episodic stuff to like build up to

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<v Speaker 1>the next big point, like bring back another villain, do something.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's been years and it's time to make

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<v Speaker 1>things cohesive again, because commanders and cowboy hats and assholes

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<v Speaker 1>in space and whatever, whatever the fuck you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Race car driving race cars. I didn't tie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think lots of people are getting tired of it

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<v Speaker 1>and just do something.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you drive any of those electric race cars in Vegas?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? You better, I did. I had so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>with that. List me and like, these little kids are racing,

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<v Speaker 1>I had so much fun with Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention you. Did you figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>let off the gas on the sharp corner? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I rolled the car. I spun the car.

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<v Speaker 1>I was having so much fun playing with these kids.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great. I had a really good time with

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<v Speaker 3>super fun. The thing about Edgy of Eternities, from the

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<v Speaker 3>limited exposure I've had thus far, feels a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>like ether drift. And I can't complain about that because

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<v Speaker 3>you know that I liked ether Drift. I liked ether

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<v Speaker 3>Drift enough to go to Fusion Gaming Online dot com

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<v Speaker 3>and get a collector box of it. Yeah, I opened it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna say I'm gonna do that again because

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen the whole set yet and I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>really figured out yet. If I want to play vehicles

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<v Speaker 3>and stations together. Yeah. If I could play a two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred cardidh deck, though, boy, howdie you better believe I

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<v Speaker 3>would have dinosaurs driving cars in cowboy hats, parking them

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<v Speaker 3>in fucking stations. It'd be called Dinosaurs space Dock. Do

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<v Speaker 3>not google that? Fuck? Now? You want to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I really do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really really do. Yeah. We can make a partner deck.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll be our pride deck next year.

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<v Speaker 1>You play dinosaurs and I played Wait, I would play

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaurs and you would play vehicles.

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<v Speaker 3>I would call it space dock. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, but that's the partner deck. Yes, you would, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we we would be the partners. Yeah, go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that. I like that. Speaking of partners,

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<v Speaker 3>we would like to extend our deepest thanks to our

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<v Speaker 3>Patreon supporters over at Patreon dot com. Slash ccio podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>We very much appreciate it. We have been talking in

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<v Speaker 3>the discord, which is like the main benefit to be

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<v Speaker 3>coming to patron about the Can we call it a

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<v Speaker 3>mini a mini experience, the mini CEO experience with face

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<v Speaker 3>to Face tour stop sets. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>People want to come and cook food at my house,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is going to be really funny because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they understand how small and how under

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<v Speaker 1>equipped my kitchen is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so like they could just come to my house

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<v Speaker 3>and roast wieners over my fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they could just come to my house and roast

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<v Speaker 1>wieners on your stove element by driving to your house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, but yeah, I don't know it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a really great time. We got lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people are coming in a surprising number of people

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<v Speaker 1>coming in Chaskatoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Freaking check this out. Okay, So if you haven't heard

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<v Speaker 3>about the Face to Face Tour, literally go to F

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<v Speaker 3>to F tour dot com. That's where it is, or

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<v Speaker 3>listen to Commander Cookout podcasts because we are wont to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it when it happens. We are the only city,

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<v Speaker 3>Saskatoon that is under a million people. In twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>that's getting a two day face to face event. That's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty freaking awesome. And I'm gonna say that y'all did that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's freaking awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are the reason why that's happening, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fricking cool. Like we like to take credit for

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<v Speaker 1>it because it makes face to face like want to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with us. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are the ones that did that, So it

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<v Speaker 1>would be hoove all of our business to go and

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<v Speaker 1>support it because it is a pretty big deal awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>August twenty three and twenty four, that's a Saturday Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Usually it goes something like this main event Saturday for

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<v Speaker 3>Modern or Pioneer, whatever it is. But in Saskatoon, we

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<v Speaker 3>know that the show floor is going to be dominated

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<v Speaker 3>by Commander Pod all day long, like record number of

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<v Speaker 3>single day Commander Pods fire in Saskatoon all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, two days in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And on Sunday they introduced like Lorcana and Star

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<v Speaker 3>Wars and One Piece, oh and Magic the Gathering. Oh Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>dominated by Commander yet again. Because we are a very

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<v Speaker 3>commander centric community. That is Saskatoon. Moushjaw Pa Regina. People

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<v Speaker 3>come from Calgary. We've got people coming from BC. We've

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<v Speaker 3>potentially got multiple different people coming from the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>We potentially have somebody coming from fucking Sweden. The Magar's

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<v Speaker 3>coming back. Oh shit, yes, prepared to get Ta megged

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<v Speaker 3>tea bagged. Saskatoon Sweden connection. The Saskatoon space doc. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>don't google that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, we five Kla Monoman angel and works there.

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<v Speaker 3>He does. He microwaves things with satellite dishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ta MegaR is going to be over there doing

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<v Speaker 3>the bending over. Yeah. Yeah, you can imagine. It's right

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<v Speaker 3>by one of my job sites. So maybe we could

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<v Speaker 3>double up and go get our cows and horses vaccinated

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<v Speaker 3>at the veterinarian clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you building the new trade school? Is that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the projects you guys are working on.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't talk about that yet. Neat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's really cool. So you guys aren't gonna know shit,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna knowing.

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<v Speaker 3>What he said. Yeah. Yeah, so that's Saskatoon mini experience.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got people coming, some stay at your house, some

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<v Speaker 3>stay at my house. Clutch when it counts Keel has

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<v Speaker 3>potentially offered up a place to stay. So if you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the discord, find the appropriate thread and link up

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<v Speaker 3>with anybody who's talking in that thread, because it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be freakin' awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be super fun. We're looking forward to having

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<v Speaker 1>people again our neck of the woods. It's always fun

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<v Speaker 1>on we can to show people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I like, I work by the airport, so I

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<v Speaker 3>can provide a lot of the transportation, Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>providing the housing this time because it's not a full

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<v Speaker 3>coecial experience on time, but I can drive. And the

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<v Speaker 3>venue is close to food and bars and hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>And is it where it usually is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes you will, Yeah, but I mean would you

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<v Speaker 3>rather be downtown? Actually Downtown in August just pretty nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Downtown in August rules because there's that rooftop bar

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<v Speaker 1>that we can go at has the best patio beer

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<v Speaker 1>in the whole city. Oh, I love patio bit It's

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<v Speaker 1>very very good. Yeah, and the servers are all really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>The food's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a leprechn door like that you can

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you are small enough and you don't have to duck.

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<v Speaker 3>You can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's just the door I go through.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, awesome, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, stay tuned to Commander Cookout

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<v Speaker 3>on social media's and discord and stuff like Twitter and

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<v Speaker 3>Blue Sky and Facebook and the Discord because potentially it's

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<v Speaker 3>worked out in the past that we've been able to

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<v Speaker 3>get like a like a discount code or a coupon

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<v Speaker 3>code or whatever. But when you purchase your Commander package,

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<v Speaker 3>So that being said, uh, yeah, I have I have

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<v Speaker 3>you about on this show. This is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>Uncle Brandon Opinion Power Hour? Can we in?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we call it that? I guess?

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<v Speaker 3>So? Okay, so oh wherever we want, it's our show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>The Uncle Brando's jerk Off five.

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<v Speaker 3>The Saskatoon Space Doc connection. Yeah. So we play with

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<v Speaker 3>So I think you and I have a like a

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<v Speaker 3>a similar opinion on what is fun cool, funny, acceptable,

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<v Speaker 3>the social norms, the the CEEO acumen, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're a little bit more diplomatic than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we have the same experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth, we played the same people. Yeah, I threaten them,

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like we're awesome people. Sounds like we're really

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<v Speaker 3>good friends to have. Okay, So I went to Fusion

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<v Speaker 3>Gaming Online dot Com used c nation promo code holy shit,

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<v Speaker 3>and saved me some five percent on a galadrial light

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<v Speaker 3>of vallenor.

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna read it to you and you're gonna say, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>frick right off.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Should I just say it now or do I wait? Unti,

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<v Speaker 1>you're finished reading it. Oh, you know what we should

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to Gary and Phoenix and all the great people

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<v Speaker 1>here at the Dufferent Avenue Media Network Studio Network Studio

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<v Speaker 1>Network Studios for giving us a place to record the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got air conditioning, it's on when the cameras are

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<v Speaker 1>not and Mike's are in front of our faces and

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<v Speaker 1>sound like morons talking to nobody's. Wow, we appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>That we do sound like morons. Well, yeah, at least

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<v Speaker 3>we're not talking to nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's our fault. That's not their fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's your fault for tuning in, you moron. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>galadrial light of Valinom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already looking at it thinking fuck yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're gonna know this one. This is green, white, blue,

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<v Speaker 3>two three to three elf noble. Sure, whenever another creature

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<v Speaker 3>you control enters, choose one that hasn't been chosen.

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<v Speaker 1>This turns it's a blank deck. Okay, no, no, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The first choice add green green green, remember this card.

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<v Speaker 3>The second choice put a plus one plus one counter

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<v Speaker 3>on each creature you control. The third one is describe

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<v Speaker 3>to then draw card, so you can do any of

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<v Speaker 3>those once, turn all of them if you choose a creature.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one of the cards you bought for the set,

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Green three sorcery that makes an elephant a

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<v Speaker 1>snake and uh wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but that's great. That's the exact kind of Uncle

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<v Speaker 3>Brando bullshit tech that I need.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I feel like if you're not playing that

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<v Speaker 1>you might be pushing the deck a little bit too farther.

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<v Speaker 1>A bud Well might be trying a little bit too hard.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the example card that I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to. Okay, this is the example card I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go back to. But before we get to specific examples, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know your general sort of umbrella opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to know, like of the Blink deck no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>of certain categories of things, Blink maybe being one of them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but things like in a deck like this, like a

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<v Speaker 3>three color Elf deck, let's say, or a three color

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<v Speaker 3>Blink deck. Sure, how many tutors like what's appropriate? How

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<v Speaker 3>many win cons do I need? Like how much fast

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<v Speaker 3>MANA do I need? That kind of stuff and sort

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<v Speaker 3>of I have category and sort of I have specific examples.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna start with the categories, and you hit

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<v Speaker 3>the first one on the head. Blink.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now.

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<v Speaker 3>There's kind of two different kinds of blink. There's the

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<v Speaker 3>blink that puts things back to your hand so you

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<v Speaker 3>can then redeploy it, but also so you can save it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can kind of use it as like a

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<v Speaker 3>to blank or to counter a removal spell. Right, that's

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<v Speaker 3>I think totally fine. Yeah, and you could you could

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<v Speaker 3>lump things like I don't know, spider silk thing, armor net,

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<v Speaker 3>snakeskin veil. That's what I was thinking of. What it

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<v Speaker 3>gives your guy shroud or hexproof, and it's like a

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<v Speaker 3>green or blue counterspell.

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<v Speaker 1>The blink ones are perfectly fine. It's a way of

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<v Speaker 1>utilizing your the tools in your deck in a more

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<v Speaker 1>optimal way. That's fine. Yeah, And that's not an optimization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just if you're going to play a card that

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<v Speaker 1>does something, make it do the most stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I said, okay, let's take that a step

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<v Speaker 3>further and talk about effemerate momentary blink, ghostly flicker, where

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<v Speaker 3>it goes immediately back into play and I can take

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of enter the battlefield or leave the battlefield and

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<v Speaker 3>save my guy from a counter or from a removal spell.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay. Sure, if I had like three or four

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<v Speaker 3>or six like blink decks are wont to do? Is

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<v Speaker 3>that too much redundancy when I have such a great

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<v Speaker 3>value engine in the command.

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<v Speaker 1>Zo I hate it? Okay, but that's me anciodotally hating it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the decks themselves are fine. The decks

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<v Speaker 1>that I dislike the most personally are the dirtily ones. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna okay, I'm gonna play one card and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm gonna draw three cards. I'm gonna look at

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<v Speaker 1>the ten cards in my hand, and I'm gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>this one. I'm gonna draw three more. Look at all

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<v Speaker 1>the now there's fifteen cards in my hand. Yes, those

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<v Speaker 1>are the decks that I I don't particularly like playing

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<v Speaker 1>against because they go for a really long time and

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<v Speaker 1>often they don't go anywhere really meaningful, because they build

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<v Speaker 1>up this huge board state into a wrathagod Yes, or

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<v Speaker 1>they take a thirty five minute turn end up with

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<v Speaker 1>fewer lands than they started with. Yeah, and made a

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<v Speaker 1>one one you know what I mean, Like, those aren't

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<v Speaker 1>my kind of jams. Those are typically, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>in chantrous decks with the blinking and the bouncing and

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah, well here on the I would say that blink.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily mind, but I find them a little

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating because every time you try and do anything, the

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<v Speaker 1>deck benefits from you trying to deal with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I just god damn it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I appreciate that exists. I just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>So if we look at the specific example now with

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<v Speaker 3>Galadriel and I had something where it says blink two

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<v Speaker 3>things on one spell, right, and I blink my thing

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<v Speaker 3>ETBs and ETBs exits and enters the battlefield and glad

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<v Speaker 3>Dril and I stack my triggers. So when when I

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<v Speaker 3>cast the thing, I get to scry to draw card

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<v Speaker 3>because that doesn't take any time, right, okay, eye roll

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<v Speaker 3>and then blink. Both of them stack the triggers. So

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<v Speaker 3>gladryl enters and sees because she's a new object, a

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<v Speaker 3>new thing entering the battlefield, scry to draw card again.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I do that on every single person's turn,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have that engine to draw four cards around.

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<v Speaker 3>That's getting to be egregious. Yes, Or if I paired

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<v Speaker 3>it with maybe you've heard about this card, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it flies under the radar a little bit. But maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you can combo with something like Cloudstone Curio, so every

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<v Speaker 3>time I blink something, I can bounce something else and

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<v Speaker 3>replay it like a zero drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that gets a little bit egregious because now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>starting to add three and scry two and draw card

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<v Speaker 3>each turn. Never mind when I'm getting ready to attack

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<v Speaker 3>and deploy like six or seven guys with blinking Galadril

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<v Speaker 3>and then putting plus ones on six or seven times.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it's like, oh well, just blink Galadriel six times

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<v Speaker 3>a turn and put a plus one every time a

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<v Speaker 3>new creature comes in. Now, if I do it six times,

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<v Speaker 3>that might be taking up too many people's turns. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>But if I play it with what's the unicorn that

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<v Speaker 3>blinks himself?

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<v Speaker 1>L lah, whatever, the fucking unicorn.

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<v Speaker 3>The unicorn that blinks himself, he can go infinite with

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<v Speaker 3>Galadriel and like a cost reducer or a clone that

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<v Speaker 3>can copy a legend like a Sakashima. Sure, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you can just like take turns blinking, which Galadriel, that

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<v Speaker 3>you blink and the non legend sees the legend enter

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<v Speaker 3>and then blinks, and then the legend enters and the

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<v Speaker 3>non legend sees it, and they just blink, blink, blinkin

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<v Speaker 3>every time you do that, you can draw your whole

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<v Speaker 3>deck and put plus ones on all your guys for

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<v Speaker 3>however many cards you having your library.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's the same as every other infinite compent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, does that cross the line again and become okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm not taking up everybody's time in this example,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just demonstrating the loop and then having people scoop or.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean they shouldn't scoop, they should lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know, I don't that's a tricky

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<v Speaker 1>one because to get I think, to get to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>you're grinding out my time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, to the inevitable end that I'm just looking at doing,

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<v Speaker 3>which while it does end abruptly as to not drag

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<v Speaker 3>your time, it did sort of let you down, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It sort of let down your expectation of time spent

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<v Speaker 3>and epic ending.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, Like I feel like in a deck like that,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how far you've gone. Let's say I go

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<v Speaker 1>in a land, dude, pass my turn to f U

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<v Speaker 1>Smitty and then you hang on end of your turn.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna blink. Three guys, I'm gonna scry to yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one on the bottom and one on the top. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna draw that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna play it because it has flash. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like okay, fuck sweet, like do you

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<v Speaker 1>And eventually you're gonna get to those turns with something

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<v Speaker 1>like do you win on your turn because I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>scoop three people are gonna ask you that return yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And for you you're gonna end up having the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same game over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so you've you've We're gonna get to exactly that

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<v Speaker 3>in ten seconds. Emeal the blest e meal, the blest

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<v Speaker 3>is the UNI. Yeah. There you go running and yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>hey three excel another target creature you control, then return

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<v Speaker 3>it to the battlefield under its owner's control. You do

421
00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:50.039
<v Speaker 3>that when it's a cost reducer because it's ETBs and

422
00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.279
<v Speaker 3>you get three manna from Galadriel and then you can

423
00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 3>use let's say two of that three mana with the

424
00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.039
<v Speaker 3>training grounds or one of that three mana with the

425
00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.920
<v Speaker 3>training grounds. To blink, you still have two manus, so

426
00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:04.519
<v Speaker 3>you can blink your meal again and get three more

427
00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:05.839
<v Speaker 3>manua because there's a new gladril.

428
00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:06.519
<v Speaker 1>Right.

429
00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.200
<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of little tricks with the meal,

430
00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.200
<v Speaker 3>the blest e meal, whatever, whatever, whatever.

431
00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Get him a meal that's a rouble cop or do

432
00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it a meal? Yes, the rail guns are blowing up

433
00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:18.960
<v Speaker 1>all the cars.

434
00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, okay, what did I say, We're just going to.

435
00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Get to Sames Games Games?

436
00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, same z Games's now with the blink deck in

437
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.640
<v Speaker 3>these three colors, I think that you'd run into that

438
00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot because you could have creature tutors. You could

439
00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.519
<v Speaker 3>have a redundancy of blink effects in white and blue

440
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.000
<v Speaker 3>card draw literally right on your commander. Yep, infinite manup

441
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.519
<v Speaker 3>potentially right on your commander that leads into card draw.

442
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Do you for that reason just stay away from that

443
00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:55.640
<v Speaker 3>and include that in your rule zero? Like you know,

444
00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:58.279
<v Speaker 3>when I bust out my Calimax deck, I say specifically

445
00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.920
<v Speaker 3>there are no infinite combos here. If I find them,

446
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I immediately take them out, and people go, oh okay,

447
00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:06.799
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just like I'm just trying to kill you

448
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:11.359
<v Speaker 3>with killing you, yeah, not infiniting you. Does that become

449
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.720
<v Speaker 3>part of the conversation. And then I build, you know,

450
00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:19.920
<v Speaker 3>just like a value deck, an elf deck, because we're

451
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:21.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna get to elf ball. You know that we're gonna.

452
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.759
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get to elf ball. Yes, yeah, and there's

453
00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.440
<v Speaker 1>better ways to do elf ball, but I would probably

454
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>agree that's probably for the best because elf ball not blank,

455
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>that would probably be a cool deck.

456
00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Elf Ball not blink Galadriel. Yes, how do you think

457
00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Speaker 3>that that would be cool? Well?

458
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:41.519
<v Speaker 1>I just think would be an interesting deck because now

459
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.559
<v Speaker 1>you're using your thing for value instead of as a

460
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:44.319
<v Speaker 1>combo engine.

461
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Ah. Yes, and we are in what I call the

462
00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:49.880
<v Speaker 3>the sorry, the value age of commander.

463
00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like you could certainly just okay, I'll play an elf,

464
00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.759
<v Speaker 1>get three, play two more elves, draw cards.

465
00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:56.839
<v Speaker 3>Cry two cool, and that's your turn.

466
00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I've had a really good turn, and then that det

467
00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 1>debt and then you come back. Okay, now I got

468
00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:06.599
<v Speaker 1>three mans. I'm playing elfball. Do the thing again. You

469
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

470
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.559
<v Speaker 3>With no blink, I can't reset Galadriel's options.

471
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, and I think that that would be less

472
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:18.880
<v Speaker 1>of an agreed. Just kind of blinky, same zy comp

473
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>because once you spent enough time to put the blank

474
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>package in the reset package and the infinite package in

475
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the draw, your deck does one thing and it builds

476
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to every turn. And I think that the deck would

477
00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:35.039
<v Speaker 1>become kind of tired pretty quick, think in the way

478
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:36.440
<v Speaker 1>that I do like doing the thing.

479
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Remember on the pre show yesterday we talked about the

480
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Morph deck that the guy took apart. The guy in

481
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:48.079
<v Speaker 3>the comments and my mom the Dragon what's the Dragon

482
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:51.319
<v Speaker 3>deck that you made, Draco Genesis deck that that you

483
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.839
<v Speaker 3>took apart. Yeah, because you did the thing and it's like,

484
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 3>oh cool, that was fun. I got to play a

485
00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.279
<v Speaker 3>bunch of cards that I really like. And I've had

486
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:03.960
<v Speaker 3>an elf ball deck before, and here's the thing I've

487
00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 3>done elf Ball, you go, I just want to build Galadriel.

488
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 3>What I'm trying to do is make a deck that

489
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to take a part, that doesn't get tired,

490
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.400
<v Speaker 3>that my friends don't hate playing against. Oh right, And

491
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 3>that's the reason I'm having this conversation. That's why it's

492
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>Uncle Branda Opinion hour. What's gonna make you not get

493
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 3>mad at this deck? Because blinking obviously is a powerful

494
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>strategy within the Galadriel deck build elf ball very obviously powerful.

495
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.799
<v Speaker 3>When my commander says, draw fucking card for every ELF

496
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:41.359
<v Speaker 3>I play, Yeah, right, Can you imagine just giving them

497
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.240
<v Speaker 3>all flash with Alurin and casting them all for free

498
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.839
<v Speaker 3>and drawing on everybody's turn like an elf a turn

499
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 3>on everybody's turn, I draw card every time, four cards

500
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 3>around and then oh, here's my creator, hoof, or here's

501
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 3>my court of calling. I guess I'll tap like fucking

502
00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 3>eight elves because I have twenty eight more. Here's my

503
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 3>who if everybody take nine hundred damage.

504
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Therr, you're the white Crater hoof, whatever it is, because

505
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I can play that dune yeah.

506
00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Or or make it into a control deck with tidespot

507
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 3>tyrant and just tap my guys to tap your guys,

508
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.200
<v Speaker 3>and I have more guys than you there.

509
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You can use the krack And wherever you play in

510
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.039
<v Speaker 1>elf you bounce of things, You up bounce all everybody.

511
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Shit. Yeah, So what is what is the build? Do

512
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 3>I go plus one counters? Do I do it like

513
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 3>my suron deck and only play cards from the Lord

514
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:30.480
<v Speaker 3>of the Rings.

515
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:32.039
<v Speaker 1>We've already done that.

516
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 3>It's a gimmick. That's a theme. I've already done it.

517
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 1>That's a gimmick you've already done. You've already done elf.

518
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Ball, though it could be my Lord of the Rings

519
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 3>good guy deck.

520
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:42.200
<v Speaker 1>The good guys are so lame.

521
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I do love a bad guy, and I know that

522
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:45.920
<v Speaker 3>you love a bad guy.

523
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 1>I like villains too, but yeah, man, the Lord of

524
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the Rings specifically, I don't think the heroes were very exciting.

525
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I know that you disagree with me on that one.

526
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think there's exciting as the fucking bad guys.

527
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 1>But on the surface, I just don't think that they're

528
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.039
<v Speaker 1>that good, And on the cards, I don't know that

529
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they all go together that good. What about what if

530
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you found another green value creature type that you haven't

531
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>done yet and then run kind of a value quasi

532
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>blink strategy out of that. You could use what's something

533
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that's across green and blue and or white? My goodness,

534
00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, beasts comes to mind. You can do beasts

535
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>or birds or you already have a bird deck.

536
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 3>I do have a bird deck, Okay, you know what

537
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean? Like, maybe I've got you fucking cats would

538
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>be good. I've wanted to do this for a long time,

539
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 3>and I've made jokes about it. Maybe this is what

540
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I do. Okay, I goes to scrifall and I go

541
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 3>in white, blue, green is the colors of my commander

542
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:54.640
<v Speaker 3>creature Typeline Noble. There's seventy six of those fuckers. That's

543
00:27:54.680 --> 00:28:00.759
<v Speaker 3>maybe enough. There's Abashan Cephalid, Empress. There's two, three, four

544
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 3>different Arwins, which fits into the theme a little bit. Sure,

545
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Beloved Princess, Black Panther, Charming Prince.

546
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a blink guy is he's a fine card.

547
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>He goes in blink strategies, Brago. Maybe I can get

548
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of blink in there to make it,

549
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>like to up the power level a little bit, because

550
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.920
<v Speaker 3>you're playing Nobles. Oh Chicken Ala King he's in there.

551
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 3>That's card.

552
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Can't play him.

553
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Crowbac's ascended hero.

554
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>With seventy six cards, you're backing yourself into a shitty

555
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 1>corner though, dang it, right. Remember our very very first

556
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>dinosaur deck on the show, We did grim Block, Remember that. Yeah,

557
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And we just did like essentially all the good dinosaurs

558
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>at the time in a deck. And I feel like, now,

559
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're gonna do a kooky side Advisor or Noble

560
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:57.559
<v Speaker 1>or spy or whatever. Yeah, you're gonna have enough. Scarecrow

561
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>is still one of those creature types where you're gonna

562
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 1>have enough to do it, but it's not gonna be done.

563
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 3>Very well like advisors. Yeah, And so what.

564
00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Your deck's gonna be is like my rev deck where

565
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing essentially only creatures with shadow. But the backup

566
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 1>to the deck that makes it.

567
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 3>Go is better than the gimmick.

568
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is so much better than the gimmick. The gimmick

569
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 1>barely matters anymore. And I feel like maybe you would,

570
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 1>you'd go Nobles, but then you just build the blank

571
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>deck anyway.

572
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Ah, well, you know what I mean.

573
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>We're to the point where you can just make it

574
00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>work with anything, because you've made the decks so stout

575
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you you could interchangeably, just swap creatures out and they

576
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>don't even matter.

577
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can play Vanilla's at some point, and especially

578
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>if you've built the deck to interact with your command

579
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.039
<v Speaker 3>zone in a way where I could still play Nobles

580
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>and Galadryl and Alurin and Cloudstone Curio, all of which

581
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 3>let me bounce when I play stuff and or cast

582
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>three drops or less for free. That's what those cards do.

583
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:03.559
<v Speaker 3>And if I have two non artifact two drops in

584
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 3>my hand, m M with a Lurin and a and

585
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>a Cloudstone Curio in play. I know that you know this,

586
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 3>but some people might not. I can play with a

587
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:16.599
<v Speaker 3>Lurin the two drop for free, and Cloudstone curio will

588
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 3>bounce the other two drop, and then I can play

589
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>it again and bounce the other one three light again,

590
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:23.200
<v Speaker 3>bounce the other.

591
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>One, bounce and Marlin two.

592
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you just bounce and bounce and bounce and

593
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>bounce them. Or I can bounce the Gladriel and replayer

594
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:31.759
<v Speaker 3>if I have the Mana, which I probably do, which

595
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.279
<v Speaker 3>she only costs three. She costs five okay, yeah, and

596
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 3>she costs five though, so like the they didn't just

597
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 3>make her cost like bant and done.

598
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 1>So she costs blue white in the scenario you just outlined.

599
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, solved for blue white. That's actually kind of easy. Yeah.

600
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 1>And then dudes you're putting into play, probably tap for

601
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a manut.

602
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 3>I am going to highlight this card, this noble.

603
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 1>One of those is a dry At Arbor. The other

604
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>one's a Lotus Cobra.

605
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Right, it's over now, uh, dry at Arbor I think

606
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>counts as a land drop though, hey oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

607
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 3>that's terrible. Is there any colored zero drops that aren't

608
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 3>cobalts because uh cloudstone Kyrio does not work on artifact.

609
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 4>Creatures colorless or colored specifically in band. Yeah, zero drops

610
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.559
<v Speaker 4>that aren't Why cobalts are red? Yes, so them being

611
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 4>a cold boy.

612
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:30.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if there I can't think of anything

613
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 3>if there is, but it seems like something that we

614
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.359
<v Speaker 3>would know because we know that there's weird combos with

615
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 3>them or whatever, like like dry at Arbor. Yes, right,

616
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 3>you gotta highlight king, uh Suliman king Solomon, Yeah, but

617
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 3>it's spelt weird. Oh it's not Solomon, it's Suleiman. I

618
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 3>don't know. It's rare from Arabian Nights. It's a one

619
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 3>one for two. So he fits into this combo we're

620
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 3>talking about.

621
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 1>He's a noble, okay.

622
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Tap him to destroy target gin or a freak.

623
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you that card.

624
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I bet you that card costs. Oh fuck,

625
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm covering it as if.

626
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:11.279
<v Speaker 1>You can see Arabian Nights. Okay, it's a rare, it's

627
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a rare in Arabian nights, so it's on the reserve list.

628
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you that card costs one hundred bucks, one.

629
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 3>Hundred and eleven.

630
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>It is for that shit, right, Yeah, yeah, And that's

631
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>the kind of thing you have to do if you

632
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 1>want to play goddamn Nobles. Spend one hundred dollars on

633
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>crappy cards like that.

634
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>No, no, there's seventy five more. Okay, so maybe some

635
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 3>blink is okay, but not an egregiously redundant amount. Okay.

636
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I've done elf ball, so maybe not that.

637
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

638
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Whatever I end up doing, what of tutors, because those

639
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 3>are that's just like a synonym or another way of

640
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 3>me saying I'm going to add redundancy in the desired

641
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 3>effect that I want. Is this it's okay? And or

642
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 3>do I limit myself to like the how the game

643
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 3>changers in bracket system says demonic tutor is not okay

644
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>but diabolic the fore mana variant is do I limit

645
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 3>myself to say? Okay, well, I won't use any game changers.

646
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 3>I won't use any like the green two mana repeatable

647
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 3>like fauna shamans, even though that's an elf tutors, I'll use,

648
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, the foreman of one, birth, birthing pod or

649
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>or shared summons is a five man of one that

650
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 3>searches for two.

651
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>What's the one that what's the one I'm thinking of

652
00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>in my head?

653
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Wild pair? Wild pair? Yeah, or wild pair is actually

654
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 3>a good one. That's a good that's an enchantment you.

655
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 3>When you play like a two to two, you search

656
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 3>for a creature that has the same total combined power

657
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 3>and toughness. Right, So a one to three would also

658
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 3>search for a two to two, or a like a

659
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 3>zero four would search for a two two.

660
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 1>And if you've got a lord in play, it like

661
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>goes up. Oh, it's pretty cool. It's a cool card.

662
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I like that one.

663
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Weird Harvest is green X ex sorcery. Each player searches

664
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 3>for ex creatures. So if you go like green and

665
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 3>X equals too, that's five man to search for. Everybody

666
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>search for two creatures. That's wild. That's wild because you

667
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 3>could just win with two.

668
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's gonna bite you right in the ass most

669
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>of the time.

670
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I play wild parent animal when I have like

671
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:27.800
<v Speaker 3>five counter spells to back it up. What are you

672
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna search for my wind cone? Counter counter counter counter,

673
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.199
<v Speaker 3>And I just drop mid full of free counter spells.

674
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>They just go Alisaurras Shepherd and you go oh yeah,

675
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>they proceed to pound you.

676
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So how do you feel about tutors? Like, what

677
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 3>do you do? I know, I know there's players in

678
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 3>our playgroup that don't play with tutors. Do you don't?

679
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I notice that you don't play with very many hard tutors.

680
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't play with tons of them. Uh. Just it's

681
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.679
<v Speaker 1>not a lack of availability. I just don't because I

682
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>build my decks to I build decks specifically different than yours.

683
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not much of a combo player. No, I'm very

684
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 1>much more of a just I want to deploy a

685
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>threat every turn until somebody dies. That's what I want

686
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>to do, or everybody dies, which is basically the same

687
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 1>as going infinite. I guess, hey, like, I'm going to

688
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>attack you for three hundred right now. I didn't go

689
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 1>in for it, yeah right, but I still killed you

690
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>in one turn.

691
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 3>There's a build, there's a build to that, and there's

692
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>some projection as if we can see it coming, or

693
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>as in we can see it coming like oh man,

694
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 3>he's got that damage doubler. Or you guys, if you

695
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 3>attacks one more time, all his things are going to

696
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 3>get plus five, plus five, and then you do, and

697
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>then it happens, we kill your guy. You top deck

698
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>something with haste and do it anyways, right, and that

699
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 3>feels more of course, that is predicated on redundancy. How

700
00:35:56.239 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 3>could you have another haste guy right on the top

701
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 3>of your deck. I don't know, because there's fifty as exactly,

702
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 3>but because it's projected, and because that feels more like

703
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:11.480
<v Speaker 3>how magic games ought to end, I don't know. Do

704
00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 3>combos make that not a thing?

705
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

706
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 3>So.

707
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that once people know you're playing a combo deck,

708
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 1>they can see the pieces I've deployed and a lure

709
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and okay, well we need to get rid of that

710
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>right now. Yes, you know your commander would be a

711
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>viable target cloudstone curio. Okay, we understand what you're doing.

712
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's roast that as an artifact. Everybody can kill that,

713
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I don't think that

714
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of projection. And as far as the

715
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>tutor conversation goes, I don't necessarily play a ton of

716
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>them just because they're not. I have I have a

717
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 1>cool card I want to play, So I'll just play

718
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>it right instead of a tutor. But I think that

719
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>if you're playing a deck that kind of is very

720
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>reliant on a thing which I would gain. I'm not

721
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>a combo player, but I would say combo decks typically

722
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:00.679
<v Speaker 1>would rely on a card like a cloudstone, curio, whatever

723
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the hell you want to talk about.

724
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 3>There is a piece that you know.

725
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You gotta find it. And with a lot of those tutors,

726
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the ones that I like to play myself are the

727
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 1>ones that you show people what you found.

728
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, this is what I got put in your graveyard?

729
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that that's not play gamble, Yes, just search

730
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>for just hang on a second, pick a card. There

731
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it is, right, the one in my bin right now.

732
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

733
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.400
<v Speaker 3>You have to ask Mac. You have to ask macab

734
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 3>a freakin' gamble. Being on the game Changer's list, he'll

735
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 3>he'll write you a dissertation as to why it should

736
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 3>not be.

737
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, it probably shouldn't be, but alas you have to.

738
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>It's the one in the cycle. The whole cycles on. Yeah,

739
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 1>so here we are, here we go. So I think

740
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>in this particular case, I think that having a tutor

741
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 1>or two is fine. I would suggest having five or six,

742
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you're probably overdoing it, and your deck has a gain

743
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:04.559
<v Speaker 1>become homad geness, not bad, not too strong, just homogeneous,

744
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>And I would argue probably not the most interesting deck

745
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 1>to play in every game. You're probably gonna go search

746
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>for my cloudstone Caryo. I ever done Sea of Creatures.

747
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I can play for free with my learn which I

748
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>used another tutor to find.

749
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 3>I went. Yes, I would say if homogeneity, if homogeneity

750
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 3>is kind of a spectrum, adding one or two tutors

751
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 3>isn't going to move the needle very much. No, adding

752
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 3>five or six is going to move you to the

753
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 3>homogenized end of the spectrum. And adding ten or fifteen,

754
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 3>like some mono black Cedh decks that are just looking

755
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 3>for ad nauseum or razakath or whatever, those are homogenized decks. Yes, yes,

756
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>five or six that could search for a few different things,

757
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>or or like i'll say utility tutors, where I might

758
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.400
<v Speaker 3>search for a combo piece, but I might search for

759
00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 3>like a removal.

760
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I got to kill that laylight of the void. Yes,

761
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>my deck can go so I'll find a disenchant thing. Yeah,

762
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I did that yesterday. I was stuck on lands for

763
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 1>like eight turns. I had four lands in a small ring,

764
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and I had had a tutor. Yeah, gonna find me

765
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 1>a land. Didn't find a land. I found a thing

766
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>that would kill the stupid darkness crystal. So my deck

767
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>would turn back on because lands don't mean ship when

768
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:27.519
<v Speaker 1>your deck don't work.

769
00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've been there. Oh, I was gonna ask you

770
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>a question, Frick, tutors, going backwards in time, Tutors, what

771
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 3>was the thing we were talking about imaginaity note before that?

772
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh, Nope, it's gone, Frick, it's gone. No, it doesn't

773
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>remember either.

774
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:48.199
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't remember either. Well dam it, Yeah, well damn it.

775
00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm any closer to to building Galandriil.

776
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>What I mean at the end of the day, what

777
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>we always say around here in the nation, just build

778
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>it and if everybody hates it, then redo it a

779
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:01.639
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

780
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.199
<v Speaker 3>I guess redo it. Yeah, I think that.

781
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>If I was going to do that. Let's say you

782
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>came to me and said, Brando, I need you to

783
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 1>give me some what are the words of framework, A

784
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of things I have to do, guidelines, guidelines

785
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in order to in order to build this deck. What

786
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>should I do I was, okay, you got to put

787
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 1>some blink in there, but probably instead of having your counterspells,

788
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you put in your blank stuff so you can save

789
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 1>your dudes.

790
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Save my dudes, redeploy my threats, maybe maybe to go

791
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.679
<v Speaker 3>along to supplement the blink guys with ETB effects.

792
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 1>That's what the deck does. Yes, so do that because

793
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what your deck does. You have a couple of tutors,

794
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 1>because game's got a fucking end. Sometimes, yes, sometimes somebody's

795
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>running away with it and you gotta beat them. And

796
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if beating them means you have to win faster than them,

797
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 1>do that.

798
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 3>That's called magic. The gathering.

799
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how the game is played, and some people

800
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 1>hate that. Some people don't like that. But if somebody

801
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>is absolutely running away from the game and they are

802
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 1>just ruffle stomping the table and it's this hopeless situation.

803
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 3>That feels like you're taking away their agency, that's why

804
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 3>they don't like it. I'm doing my thing. I get

805
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.480
<v Speaker 3>to do my thing. Look at all the stuff I'm doing. Cool,

806
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 3>All my guys get flying die right now? Ah Yeah,

807
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I can see how people wouldn't like it in that

808
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 3>sort of scenario, because you're removing their agency to finish.

809
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, well, finish faster. Yeah, none of us around the

810
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>nation have a problem with finishing faster. Okay, yeah, that's

811
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>just how we do it, Orf. But just you know

812
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.679
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like, that's how the game works. That's

813
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>how the game is. If you're gonna if I resolve

814
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>this one spell all the win and it gets countered. Like,

815
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that's how the game works. That's why the game is interesting. So,

816
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.760
<v Speaker 1>like I would say, lean into minimal tutors, but some

817
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.039
<v Speaker 1>because you need them. I would have Blink because it

818
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 1>makes the debt go. You have to have creatures with

819
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 1>some ETB because you have some Blink and you might

820
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 1>as well take advantage of that. And then I would

821
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>pick a stout but not elf creature type in order

822
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 1>to play with it. Then you've got synergy, you've got

823
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 1>abilities to beat in with like dudes, you've got combo

824
00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 1>potential because if you're playing a supported creature type, there's

825
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be combos involved in there. Plus you have

826
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 1>a combo engine in the command zone, and your removal

827
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and synergy suite are all built on making all of

828
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that possible and good. So that's what I would do

829
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to building a blink combo deck or the

830
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>blink deck that you expect it to be, or just

831
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 1>building an elf ball deck, but with white and blue

832
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 1>in it. I wonder that's what I do? Oh?

833
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Is that it? Yeah? First time? Ah? I wonder if

834
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 3>I would even need to choose a creature type. You

835
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:52.920
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't and hear me out, that's just what I like

836
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 3>to do. What if because all of these creatures cost

837
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 3>five and six and seven and eight, what if I

838
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 3>chose a bunch of those green creatures that just literally

839
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 3>do fucking everything.

840
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 1>What if that was the like Questing Beast and the

841
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Elder Gargaro.

842
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the one.

843
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 1>That's the with vigilance. It's a six six that like

844
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 1>draws you a card and gains your life, dude.

845
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:21.840
<v Speaker 3>And I could put in because I'm playing blue. I

846
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 3>could put in the what's the one they play in

847
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 3>c e h the fucking the Kraken can't be countered? Uh?

848
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I know, the one we talked about it earlier, the

849
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>one that play a spell bounce a thing. No, not

850
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:35.599
<v Speaker 1>that one, different one.

851
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Hell, I could put in like God Eternal Rhonas because

852
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 3>it's got seventeen lines attacks I could put in the

853
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Green Odier. Guy. I'm just I'm just trying to go

854
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 3>down the list and and find all of these cards

855
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:51.320
<v Speaker 3>that do everything.

856
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 1>The new Questing Beast, skin Shifter, shifting, Sarah Tops, what's

857
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.119
<v Speaker 1>the what's the card that was like swag Tusk. You

858
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>can just yeah, just all these crazy utility creatures that

859
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of do everything everything.

860
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Rick, Oh, I'm drawn up a.

861
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Blank because your commander does everything, and now every creature

862
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 1>in the deck does everything.

863
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>And I could put in gore Claw because it would

864
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.320
<v Speaker 3>it would give me benefit for playing these big beady

865
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 3>creatures and has eighteen lines of text on it. That

866
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 3>seems like kind of a funny idea. I could do

867
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Tossky Bearer of Secrets because it has eighteen lines of

868
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>texts and I have a Sandy Cheeks one from a

869
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:38.119
<v Speaker 3>SpongeBob secret. Yeah, I think that's kind of funny.

870
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>That'd be kind of a ludicrous, ridiculous deck, but it'd

871
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>probably again if you had that backup of we're going

872
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to do some like blink and protection and whatever with it,

873
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 1>well we probably woul't even need blink. In a deck

874
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like that, you need more protection. But like you could

875
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just have a kind of a cool value engine deck

876
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that came out of that.

877
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 3>That could be cool, I suppose. Yeah, and you know

878
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:03.480
<v Speaker 3>what having creatures is that that have that higher converted manecost.

879
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 3>You might not want to blink those because.

880
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, blink and it puts them back in a bounce.

881
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, oh yeah, blink and put them back is fine.

882
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 3>But bouncing them to protect them, like you don't want

883
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.199
<v Speaker 3>to blink and put back with a wrathagod on the

884
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 3>battlefield because like you'll get two ETBs and two ETBs yep,

885
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 3>but a bounce back to my hand. We'll save it

886
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.119
<v Speaker 3>from the wrath of God, right and.

887
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>We're a blank till end of turn.

888
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>We'll save yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So phasing, yes, and.

889
00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Its phasing work real quick. Sorry for the aside.

890
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 3>There is a galadrial showcase card in those those six

891
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 3>card panoramas. There is a card that gives all your

892
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 3>team phasing. Oh yeah, and I owns it. I owns

893
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 3>it because I bought all those things because I'm a nerd.

894
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:48.679
<v Speaker 1>How does that work? How does phasing work? Phasing is

895
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>at the end of your turn, they phase out and

896
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>then during your drawstep they come back.

897
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 3>In here. We're gonna if I don't look it up,

898
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have all the judges and CCO nation frickin'

899
00:45:58.239 --> 00:45:59.360
<v Speaker 3>letting us know that we're wrong.

900
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>There's any of them. Because I saw a card the

901
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.280
<v Speaker 1>other day when I was building my I talked about

902
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.519
<v Speaker 1>it yesterday on the pre show The Clones Deck. I

903
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 1>found a blue card that you pick a basic land type,

904
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.119
<v Speaker 1>but it comes into play gives all the lands of

905
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>that type phasing.

906
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:17.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, do ye? It came out weather light. Did you

907
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:22.079
<v Speaker 3>know that nineteen ninety seven? I could read the reminder

908
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 3>text and maybe we could parse it. Okay, Okay, let's

909
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 3>try it off the reminder text. Okay, this phases in

910
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.519
<v Speaker 3>or out before you untap during each of your untapped steps.

911
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

912
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 3>While it's phased out, it's treated as it doesn't exist.

913
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, Now phase out and the reminder text to

914
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 3>phase out. While it's phased out, it's treated as though

915
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't exist. It phases in before its controller untaps

916
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 3>during their next untapped step. Okay, so it's treated as

917
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 3>though it doesn't exist.

918
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>When does it go?

919
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 3>When it's phased out? Whenever whatever phasing it resolves?

920
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:03.320
<v Speaker 1>When does it phase out. Like if you have a

921
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 1>creature with phasing, when does it go Oh that's the question.

922
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 1>If I gave all your lands phasing, when do your

923
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 1>lands go away? Okay, they just go away at the

924
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 1>end of your turn, and then you can't use them

925
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>while I'm because I feel like phasing out all the

926
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>islands would be stupid because then I can't freaking counter

927
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 1>stuff either.

928
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're gonna you're gonna make me do this, hey

929
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 3>seven oh two point twenty six Jesus. Phasing.

930
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't just say what part of the turn they

931
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>phase out on. Nope, Oh my god.

932
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh. Phasing is a static ability that modifies the rules

933
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:41.199
<v Speaker 3>of the untapped step, not the fucking end step or whatever.

934
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 3>Whenever you think it's gonna phase in or out. Sure, no, no, okay.

935
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.920
<v Speaker 3>During each player's untapped step, before the active player untaps permanence,

936
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:56.360
<v Speaker 3>all phased in permanence with phasing, that player controls phase out.

937
00:47:56.440 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 3>There we there you go, there we got there simultaneously,

938
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 3>all phased out permanence that had phased out under there

939
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 3>that player's control phase in.

940
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 1>What a night? What?

941
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Basically, you just have to you just have to know

942
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 3>during your untapped step. Anything with phasing natively on the

943
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:23.599
<v Speaker 3>card phases out. Anything that's treated as though it doesn't

944
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 3>exist during your next untaped step, phases back in because

945
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.360
<v Speaker 3>when it phased out, it had phasing.

946
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:33.760
<v Speaker 1>That card's going straight into my deck.

947
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 3>If you have a spell that says target permanent phases

948
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:41.719
<v Speaker 3>out when yeah, when that was. When that spell resolves,

949
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 3>you just essentially you just turn the thing face down.

950
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 3>That's kind of how you represent phasing in game, and

951
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 3>it's just treated as though it doesn't.

952
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Exist, you do, I just shake them onto the floor.

953
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I shake the Yeah, just sweep them off the table.

954
00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Don't get to leave the battlefield trigger, you don't get

955
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 3>an enter the battlefield of trigger doesn't actually work with Galadri.

956
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Maybe if I want to, if I want to curb

957
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.320
<v Speaker 3>the power, I just make Galadril phasing. Phasing was mostly

958
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 3>in blue in Mirage block, and it also was in white,

959
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 3>and I think there's a couple of greens.

960
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we might have a winner.

961
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Wait a second, you know what else is in freakin' blue?

962
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Chronotogue and Stasis and the One Ring, and we could

963
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 3>make the deck where I don't play magic and Teft's

964
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 3>protection I could just phase my fucking cell phone, skip

965
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>all my turns. You guys play magic. I don't, thanks, Galadriel,

966
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 3>I can't play lethal Vapors in that deck, and lethal

967
00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:52.840
<v Speaker 3>vapors is literally zero skip your next turn. Dang what

968
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 3>letho I.

969
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:56.639
<v Speaker 1>I've played against it.

970
00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.000
<v Speaker 3>It's an enchantment for black black two. Whenever a creature

971
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 3>enters about a field stry, that's what the card does,

972
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 3>and zero destroy lethal vapors, Skip your next turn. Any

973
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:08.639
<v Speaker 3>player may play this ability.

974
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh so just played a bunch of times, Yes to

975
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 1>skip a bunch of turns.

976
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you try to make me stop skipping my turns,

977
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 3>I can just, in response, skip my next turn. Oh

978
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 3>fucking so good.

979
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And then the one guy who's just not skipping turns just.

980
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Sitting, the one guy that casts time stuff. And then

981
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I go, just kidding, I'm gonna respond to times skipping

982
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:32.280
<v Speaker 3>me in my turn. I'll in my turn a million times,

983
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:35.239
<v Speaker 3>or I'll say, hey, how many cards in your deck? Eight?

984
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna skip my next eighty six turns.

985
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 1>And then during one of those turns, they just go

986
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Platinum Angel and they just wait, They.

987
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Just wait for you to come back, come back, from

988
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 3>the Coachman Licensed bevy. Right, you've gone to drink a

989
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 3>beer thing. Yeah, I'm so smarter than you. Roll back

990
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 3>in and he's just waiting for you. I leave.

991
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Every creature in his deck is lined up, just ready, just.

992
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Ready, and he goes. I've had fifteen turns. None of

993
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 3>my eyes have haste or have summoning sickness. One of

994
00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 3>them have like a a.

995
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 1>They've bought a dice block for each one for the

996
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>plus one plus one counters on it. And then just

997
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you just come back and they're just ready for you.

998
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 3>They've taken the time to flip all the dice in

999
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 3>their dice block up to six. Yeah. I come back

1000
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 3>from the Coachman licensed beverage room. I left my wondering,

1001
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 3>my tests protection, my lethal vapors, and my Corona Dog

1002
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 3>all on the table. I get back. They just scoop

1003
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:32.519
<v Speaker 3>them onto the floor. It's your turn. It's a turn, asshole. Shit. Well,

1004
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 3>I can't play lethal Vapors in my gladrail deck, truth,

1005
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.119
<v Speaker 3>but I can play Corona Tog and that does let

1006
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 3>you skip your next turn. It does only one time, though,

1007
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 3>isn't it.

1008
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 1>Well? I mean, yeah, every time you read Live Building

1009
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>is that what we're doing. It looks like that's what

1010
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>we're doing.

1011
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh, perfect time for the Internet to crap out.

1012
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it is you kidding me? Corona dog, Corona frog.

1013
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess he can't out as black in it.

1014
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Hey, coronal frogs card.

1015
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, No, it's some like psychic frog or something that's

1016
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>basically chrona dog. But I don't think it skips your turn. Oh,

1017
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 1>it is stupid.

1018
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Fine, I painted one of these one time. I went

1019
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 3>in somebody's cube. It's a it's in a dog for

1020
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 3>blue one zero. This creature gets plus three plus three

1021
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 3>until end of turn. You skip your next turn. Activate

1022
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 3>only once each turn, so I have to activate it

1023
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 3>on everybody's turn. So I have to fucking sit there.

1024
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 3>That's bullshit. You know what? You know what I would do?

1025
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Tell me, okay, guys, I'm going to the Coachman licensed

1026
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 3>beverage room. On everybody's turn, I'm activating chrona TALG.

1027
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>No.

1028
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.039
<v Speaker 3>I can't do that. If I chronotog, then tefts protection

1029
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.519
<v Speaker 3>because it's treated as though it doesn't exist until I untap.

1030
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the truth.

1031
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Fuck, this is bullshit. I need lethal vapors.

1032
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 1>This can't be that deck. We're back to the old

1033
00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 1>what are we gonna do?

1034
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:59.599
<v Speaker 3>No, I can still wondering and Teft's protection and then

1035
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.679
<v Speaker 3>I got texture from everything life total can't change?

1036
00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, then you just playing the blink Deckie, just blink

1037
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in the one ring.

1038
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, what does Corona talg tot them do? Can

1039
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 3>I do that more than once a turn? Zero? This

1040
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 3>creature gets plus three plus three until end of turn.

1041
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.000
<v Speaker 3>You skip your next turn. Activate only once each turn,

1042
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 3>and only if this permanent is a creature. Oh well

1043
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 3>making a creature that's easy.

1044
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean then you could do it twice a turn.

1045
00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Hey, redundancy, this is why I need tutors. Yeah, now

1046
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm a dirty stink and combo deck again because.

1047
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 1>You could skip two turns per turn. That's eight turns.

1048
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:37.719
<v Speaker 3>That's is eight turns enough to everybody?

1049
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Mill low, No, no, exactly, you just have to do

1050
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it again.

1051
00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to the Coachman licensed bever room. This is

1052
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:45.119
<v Speaker 3>my rule zero.

1053
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>You can go to the coach and drink a beer

1054
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and eight turns?

1055
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah I probably could. Oh yeah I could. New

1056
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.960
<v Speaker 3>challenge unlocked. Could I go and drink a beer before

1057
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 3>it's my turn again? Like one one round?

1058
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Probably?

1059
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Why because the coachman's like far, I'd have to run.

1060
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's like a it's like a mall

1061
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 1>hallway away. It's like walking across the house.

1062
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.159
<v Speaker 3>How big is your house? We just went over. How

1063
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 3>small your kitchen is?

1064
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know, it's not that big.

1065
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 3>No, I'd have to run because you have to order

1066
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:19.280
<v Speaker 3>way down at the bar, which is the deepest part

1067
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.840
<v Speaker 3>of the the establishment, and I'm not gonna get it

1068
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 3>right away. I'm gonna pound it. How big does a

1069
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.239
<v Speaker 3>beer have to be? Why am I making this more

1070
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:28.880
<v Speaker 3>difficult on myself? It's a regular beer. It's a regular

1071
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 3>it's a pint. Yeah, like a like a regular ass pint.

1072
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not schoony.

1073
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Or should it be?

1074
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 1>No, it shouldn't be. No, it shouldn't be. To be

1075
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>responsible in the nation, And then I.

1076
00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Have to run back. Everybody plays normal turn like not

1077
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 3>not like fuck Ryan, Yeah, land.

1078
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Go, why would we do that? Don't have to wait

1079
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>for you?

1080
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, good point.

1081
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 1>We've probably played bigger turns because the control guy's not here.

1082
00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it just sounds like a good idea. It's sounds

1083
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.400
<v Speaker 3>like a good idea. I still need black in my

1084
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.519
<v Speaker 3>deck for lethal vapors. It's my backup winc on, My

1085
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 3>backup wink on is skipped all my turns. Fuck, that's

1086
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:15.159
<v Speaker 3>a good idea. That's all I got. What am I

1087
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:16.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna build Galadil? I don't know. Is it going to

1088
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:19.320
<v Speaker 3>be skip all my turns? Chronotogu dot deck? I think

1089
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 3>it might be. It might be what what cards do?

1090
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Do people play with Chrono dog chrona toog on.

1091
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Nobody plays chrona dog man.

1092
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Chronotog told him is in fourteen hundred decks, you suck it.

1093
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And one of them is a dog.

1094
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.400
<v Speaker 3>One of them is a Taga dog. Yeah, yeah, shit.

1095
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.880
<v Speaker 3>One of them is morphun which is guaranteed just in

1096
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:37.599
<v Speaker 3>a dog deck.

1097
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:38.599
<v Speaker 1>Which is the dogs.

1098
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah this is bullshit.

1099
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that doesn't tell us anything. Dh reck is a

1100
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 1>great tool, but sometimes when you're getting real granular and

1101
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 1>trying to actually see where these crazy cards are going.

1102
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't be the only dumb ass that wants to

1103
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.480
<v Speaker 3>skip every turn of magic he ever played.

1104
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 1>No that you're the only one. Oh, it's you and

1105
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that guy. That's whole goal of the deck is don't

1106
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the game end in a draw? You guys are the

1107
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>same guy.

1108
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm gonna fucking ac combo that guy out before

1109
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.920
<v Speaker 3>he can cast his divine intervention. I'm gonna get him.

1110
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>But what if the game ends in a draw?

1111
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1112
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.360
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, because I could.

1113
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Because drawing isn't losing. You can't lose. The game doesn't

1114
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 3>work if.

1115
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:23.119
<v Speaker 1>It's a draw. Yeah. What happens if somebody wins the

1116
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>game while you're gone?

1117
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I need disenchant I need disenchant to take care of

1118
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:29.000
<v Speaker 3>divine or is that a sorcery?

1119
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 1>It's an enchantment because that's counters that come off of it.

1120
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>What if somebody coalition victories while you're gone? Oh?

1121
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Is is them winning the game the same as me

1122
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 3>losing the game?

1123
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>No? Like the card has to say your opponents can't.

1124
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh like like I'm thinking yeah, Platinum Angel, Yeah, Platinum

1125
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Angel says you can't lose and your opponents can't win.

1126
00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, shit, it just says you can't lose. Then your

1127
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>opponents can still win because they win because you sure.

1128
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:08.519
<v Speaker 3>What what cards say you can't lose? No? What cards?

1129
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.159
<v Speaker 3>What cards say you win the game? Like coalition victory?

1130
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1131
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay? Is there cards that say you can't lose more?

1132
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that there are there's Mortal Kombat is another

1133
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.199
<v Speaker 1>one that makes you just win. There's a green wand

1134
00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>there's chance encounter makes it win.

1135
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Yeah, there's lots that say you just winyah,

1136
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:33.760
<v Speaker 3>But is there any that say you can't lose? Then?

1137
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Most recent ougen kind of says that, dang it.

1138
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 3>This is gonna okay. There's like Angels Grace, there's Abyssal

1139
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:53.119
<v Speaker 3>Persecutors the opposite, there's yeah, Platinum Angel. There's a lot

1140
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.599
<v Speaker 3>of cards that say can't and win and lose all

1141
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:59.519
<v Speaker 3>on the same card. Yeah, dang it, this is harder

1142
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.280
<v Speaker 3>than I thought because fucking krona Toog can only be

1143
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 3>activated once per turn. No, I'm playing a blink deck

1144
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Coronatog and Emil and freaking Galadrial. I'll just blink the chronotog.

1145
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1146
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh but then I'm playing the blink deck.

1147
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're back to where right? Yeah?

1148
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Man, I am a piece of shit, except I'm a

1149
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 3>piece of shit who wants to go to the coachman

1150
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:25.800
<v Speaker 3>license beverage room.

1151
00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:28.079
<v Speaker 1>But in that situation, do you get to go to

1152
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>the coach in the the Krona Tog tot them Kronatog

1153
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.760
<v Speaker 1>situation where you skip like eight turns in one round,

1154
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and then go for a beer. Yes, that is much

1155
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>different than you saying I can't lose and I'm gonna

1156
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 1>skip one hundred turns, so all of you guys can

1157
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>play as much as you want. No matter what happens,

1158
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 1>you can't win, I'll win.

1159
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1160
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>That would be the same as infinite comboing everybody, and

1161
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't get to go drink a beer, damn it.

1162
00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Whereas if it's non deterministic and you skip eight turns,

1163
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 1>you actually have the option nay, the adventure of leaving

1164
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:06.119
<v Speaker 1>the game nay, doing another thing and coming back to

1165
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.000
<v Speaker 1>see what's happened while you were gone.

1166
00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Nay, the contractual obligation, yes, to go for a beer

1167
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.639
<v Speaker 3>and then come back. That's right. I think that that's

1168
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Speaker 3>what you do. Just do chronotog times two yep, or

1169
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 3>or non infinite chronotog like blink, so I can activate

1170
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 3>it like twice, so maybe get five turns. Yeah, trying chronotog.

1171
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I am the non deterministic chronotog combo player.

1172
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 1>You are, yes, wow, wow, And I don't think anybody's

1173
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:42.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna gonna be playing that fucking decade anytime soon. Excuse me,

1174
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.719
<v Speaker 1>that is that exciting a That deck ain't gonna be

1175
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.360
<v Speaker 1>fucking nowhere else. Only CEO do you get a deck

1176
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 1>where the goal is to just not play magic at all?

1177
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 3>What's the last truly CCO deck we did? Arkslager Combo

1178
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:00.800
<v Speaker 3>where we're bringing our graveyard back from exile, fricking.

1179
01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 1>The two cards at a time. That card was awesome.

1180
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 1>That deck was awesome.

1181
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Ah frick mother ass.

1182
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a hell of a deck.

1183
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Come feel here hard, he can punch. Those are all

1184
01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.199
<v Speaker 3>the CCOs things I can think of.

1185
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, so, now that we've talked about it for an hour,

1186
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.920
<v Speaker 1>run yes, what do you think Corona to turn skip

1187
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Mono blank elf ball.

1188
01:00:31.800 --> 01:00:33.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I thought that was so funny,

1189
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 3>but turn skip. That's fucking funny right there.

1190
01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you think? What are you gonna do? Are

1191
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:45.519
<v Speaker 1>the cards still in the mail?

1192
01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.559
<v Speaker 3>I do not have the Galadriel in my possession yet.

1193
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>So the card is on its way from Fusion Gaming

1194
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Online dot com, where I guarantee you he used promo

1195
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.760
<v Speaker 1>code stand Nation to save him sell five percent dang

1196
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 1>old percent off of all those cards did come into

1197
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:02.800
<v Speaker 1>his house, and you know when they could be.

1198
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:07.679
<v Speaker 3>Here, they're probably in my mailbox now because I'm checked

1199
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 3>this week.

1200
01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:10.119
<v Speaker 1>So they could be here for like next week.

1201
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh. Yeah, they're certainly going to be here for face

1202
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 3>to face games Saskatoon.

1203
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Which is at the end of August, the twenty third

1204
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and the twenty fourth. Yes, it's Smittie and Ryan and

1205
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Brando's who else's birthday and if you Aiden Aiden's birthday.

1206
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Brad just had a birthday. It's my dad's birthday.

1207
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 1>His dad's birthday, it's five birthdays. He's not going to

1208
01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:35.559
<v Speaker 1>be there, He'll be there in spirit, Yes, pouring out

1209
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:36.119
<v Speaker 1>for the old man.

1210
01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And we've got very very reliable intel saying tamagers coming.

1211
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:46.199
<v Speaker 3>The Swedish connection are the Swedish fish, if you will,

1212
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.400
<v Speaker 3>both of which are candies. I'm just making that up.

1213
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.440
<v Speaker 1>What do they call Swedish fish and sweden fish just fish?

1214
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:58.199
<v Speaker 1>It's just fish fish on the that'll be confusing. Can

1215
01:01:58.239 --> 01:01:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you buy the candy bag and let's say fish on

1216
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.800
<v Speaker 1>like I wanted fish, but it's candy. Yeah, and then

1217
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you take off your pants and arm wrestle somebody. I

1218
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:07.360
<v Speaker 1>still don't understand why they do that.

1219
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they why the wrestle with no pants.

1220
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 3>It must be pandemonium there. I'll never understand that with

1221
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:15.320
<v Speaker 3>fish in their mouth, that's a weird one. Yeah, I

1222
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:17.719
<v Speaker 3>don't slap each other in the face with it. Yeah,

1223
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 3>we've got significant intelligence though that Jared sink g I

1224
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.239
<v Speaker 3>CONFARTI is gonna be here. And by the way, I've

1225
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 3>totally signed you up for guest appearances with all these

1226
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:32.000
<v Speaker 3>gentlemen on CEO. You might be doing exclusive episodes with

1227
01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:35.719
<v Speaker 3>them because that would be really fun and funny and entertaining.

1228
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:41.440
<v Speaker 3>We have some intel that Mac and maybe even Rachel

1229
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:41.920
<v Speaker 3>might come.

1230
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh ship, we're trying to sell We'll take her to

1231
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:45.679
<v Speaker 1>the zoo. Yes, that sells everybody.

1232
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, we gotta we gotta sell her. We

1233
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 3>gotta sell her hard rules. Yeah yeah. Rusty trom Jones,

1234
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 3>hell yeah you come.

1235
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep he was gonna come stream some stuff with me

1236
01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 1>and Gary.

1237
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Keel and Peepy the d D canna come up.

1238
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:04.039
<v Speaker 3>We've got to Mike clown Shoes it's coming, oh man.

1239
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1240
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Lots of people coming from all over the NACHE.

1241
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 1>So you ever wanted to meet any nation members we

1242
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:10.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about all the time. Saskatoon, the twenty third and

1243
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 1>the twenty fourth the.

1244
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Place to be. That's it.

1245
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Where else is the place to be? Probably right back

1246
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:16.880
<v Speaker 1>here next week when we're going to talk about what

1247
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:20.440
<v Speaker 1>deck Ryan has decided to build on the next exciting

1248
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:24.880
<v Speaker 1>episode of cook Man Er Cookout Podcast.

1249
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 2>It are
