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<v Speaker 1>Is Cuba about to launch three hundred attack drones against

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Ace Axios reporter Mark Kuputo broke the

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<v Speaker 1>big story, and he joins us at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>this hour to explain the threat from the communist dictatorship

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<v Speaker 1>just ninety miles away. Plus, Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey has

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<v Speaker 1>angered President Trump and is now in the fight for

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<v Speaker 1>his political life. What is happening in the most expensive

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<v Speaker 1>Republican primary for Congress in history. We were on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground in the Bluegrass Straight state over the weekend. We

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<v Speaker 1>have exclusive coverage from the very rally that had President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump doubling down on the race. Pollster Richard Barriss will

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<v Speaker 1>stop by to break down all the numbers. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>next to the Matt Gates Show. Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you haven't watch this guy on television. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>a machine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Gates.

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<v Speaker 1>As we join you this evening, Axios reports a chilling

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<v Speaker 1>development just ninety miles south of Flora. US intelligence says

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba has acquired more than three hundred military grade drones

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<v Speaker 1>and has discussed using them against military assets in Guantanamo Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>against vessels in the Florida Straits, and possibly even against

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<v Speaker 1>Key West. And before you go thinking Key West is

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<v Speaker 1>a soft target, it is not. The eight square mile

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<v Speaker 1>island is home to two major military installations, Naval Air

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<v Speaker 1>Station Key West, which is home to some very combat

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<v Speaker 1>ready F eighteen super hornets, and Jaiadic South, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a key intelligence and monitoring node for all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>intere addictions throughout the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there and personally observed the mission. It is robust.

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<v Speaker 1>Key West is not just some playground for fantasy fest

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<v Speaker 1>and vacation and gay people. It is a hardened US

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<v Speaker 1>military asset, and that really aligns with history. Key West

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<v Speaker 1>was a key Union stronghold during the Civil War, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of Brits.

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<v Speaker 1>There during the Revolutionary War chasing down French pirates. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the drones at issue in this story reportedly came from

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and Iran, two regimes already using drone warfare extensively

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<v Speaker 1>to menace US interests around the world. This is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of threat that Trump administration has been warning

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<v Speaker 1>about America's enemies no longer need expensive big aircraft carriers

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<v Speaker 1>or even fighter jets to threaten the homeland. They just

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<v Speaker 1>need cheap, attriatable drones, and hostile regimes would have a

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<v Speaker 1>potential launch pad close to our shores if Cuba allows

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<v Speaker 1>it now. CIA director John Ratcliffe traveled to Cuba last

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<v Speaker 1>week and delivered a very direct warning the island cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be allowed to serve as a staging ground for America's

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<v Speaker 1>adversaries or the adversaries of peace in the Western Hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuba is long believed to have been the exporter of

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<v Speaker 1>so much of the disruption that has seen the political

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<v Speaker 1>left obtained some strongholds in places like Ecuador, Nicola, and Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we also expect action this week from the US

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice. The indictment of former Cuban leader Raoul

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<v Speaker 1>Castro is likely to be unsealed Wednesday. Raoul is the

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<v Speaker 1>brother of Fidel Castro and ordered the killing of the

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<v Speaker 1>much famed Ermano cel Rascate or Brothers to the Rescue.

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<v Speaker 1>These brothers were Cuban expats based in Miami. They would

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<v Speaker 1>deploy small boats and aircraft to rescue Cubans who were

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<v Speaker 1>fleeing the Communist dictatorship via the dangerous shark infested waters

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<v Speaker 1>of the Florida Straits. The Brothers made hundreds of daring rescues,

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<v Speaker 1>saving thousands of lives that otherwise would have been lost

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<v Speaker 1>to these torrent waters. They've long been rumored to have

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<v Speaker 1>been aided by the CIA during many of these missions,

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<v Speaker 1>and on February twenty fourth, nineteen ninety six, they were

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<v Speaker 1>shot down on the orders of the Castro Brothers. Justice

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<v Speaker 1>for the Brothers to the rescue could be coming this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Defense Pete Hegsath also so flagged the danger

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<v Speaker 1>of foreign powers operating high tech intelligence facilities so close

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<v Speaker 1>to the United States. That's the China play to buy

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<v Speaker 1>out old Russian assets that have been rusted out or

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<v Speaker 1>degrading in Cuba for the last two decades and then

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<v Speaker 1>convert them into highly capable, dual use military assets. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, the United States tests most of our weapons

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<v Speaker 1>system that do air to air and air to land

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<v Speaker 1>over the Gulf of Mexico. When I was a Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>for North Florida, I put hundreds of millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>into developing test assets in the Gulf Test range, because

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<v Speaker 1>ability to do these sensitive military maneuvers without some foreign

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<v Speaker 1>power listening. Now, Cuba cannot be allowed to become China's

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<v Speaker 1>stationary aircraft carrier just ninety miles south of Florida. DoD

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<v Speaker 1>officials say Cuba has been receiving drones from Russia and

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<v Speaker 1>Iran since twenty twenty three, while Cuban personnel well have

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly been fighting for Russia in Ukraine and learning drone

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<v Speaker 1>tactics on the battlefield. Reportedly, Russia is paying Cuba about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand dollars per Cuban that they produce for

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<v Speaker 1>the meat grinder that is the Russia war against Ukraine. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian drone warfare has already damaged American bases and disrupted

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<v Speaker 1>shipping in the Middle East as a.

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<v Speaker 2>Consequence of that war.

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<v Speaker 1>So officials do not believe Cuba right now is preparing

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of offensive imminent attack. It's more likely that

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<v Speaker 1>they're preparing a planned retaliation, but the threat here is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer theoretical. A weak, collapsing Marxist regime backed by Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>Iran and China is now reportedly studying how to bring modern.

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<v Speaker 2>Drone warfare to America's doorstep. Joining us now is the

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<v Speaker 2>man who broke the story.

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<v Speaker 1>White House correspondent and senior political reporter for Axios and

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<v Speaker 1>well known member of the conc Republic, Mark Capudo.

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<v Speaker 2>MARKU identified three.

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<v Speaker 1>Areas of potential Cuban drone strikes in your story of

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<v Speaker 1>the Florida Straits, Key West and Guantanamo Bay. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have a sense from your discussions with administration officials which

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<v Speaker 1>are more or less.

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<v Speaker 4>Likely the naval base on Guantanamo or the Guantanamo Baying

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<v Speaker 4>naval based simply because it's on Cuba, it's also a

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<v Speaker 4>good military target for other military to strike. To be clear,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the reasons the United States has this concern

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<v Speaker 4>is not only do they claim or say that this

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<v Speaker 4>was picked up in the chatter, but a military base

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<v Speaker 4>or military basis in the Middle East had been struck

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<v Speaker 4>by Iranian drones and they figured that this would be

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a copycat attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>I read this piece and I got the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>it was an approved leak, Like I could just imagine

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump being briefed on these three hundred drones being

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<v Speaker 1>purchased and saying that he wanted to get that information out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know yours well sourced as anyone in the press

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<v Speaker 1>corps when it comes to the Trump administration, But did

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<v Speaker 1>you get this sense that there it was like approved

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<v Speaker 1>leak energy around your discussions, and if so, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that signals forthcoming efforts for regime change in Cuba?

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<v Speaker 4>I could certainly say that there were members of the

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<v Speaker 4>administration wanted to get this out, and that's why I

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<v Speaker 4>got out. As for just what regime change is going

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<v Speaker 4>to look like and when, I'm not sure, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>certainly part of a long standing pressure campaign. What I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, and what we don't know, is did this

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<v Speaker 4>information get out because the United States wants to use

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<v Speaker 4>this as a negotiating chip, a bargaining chip to try

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<v Speaker 4>to get the Cubans at the table, or is this

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<v Speaker 4>just basically a pretext to go to war by the

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<v Speaker 4>United States. Now I'm being waved off of the idea

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<v Speaker 4>that any of these strikes are imminent, or that any

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<v Speaker 4>military action by the United States is imminent. But nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen this amount of hostility from the US

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<v Speaker 4>toward Cuba or Cuba toward the US, and all my

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<v Speaker 4>years reporting on.

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<v Speaker 1>This, well, your story does link these Cuban drone purchases

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<v Speaker 1>to what's happening more broadly in the Russia Ukraine War.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk us through what evidence you think establishes those connections

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<v Speaker 1>other than someone just asserting it.

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<v Speaker 4>The ties to the Ukraine War is what the officials

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<v Speaker 4>had told us, which is essentially that not only have

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<v Speaker 4>the Iranians use drone technology and swarms of drones effectively

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<v Speaker 4>the Middle East, but there were as many as five

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<v Speaker 4>thousand Cuban nationals, Cuban soldiers who had allegedly been drafted

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<v Speaker 4>by Putin into the war in Ukraine, and they came

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<v Speaker 4>back to Cuba and said, Hey, these drones that Ukraine

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<v Speaker 4>is using against Cuba, or better said, Russia are being

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<v Speaker 4>used with devastating effect. These are things that Cuba should get.

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<v Speaker 4>The more important aspect I think of this is that

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<v Speaker 4>there is just this paranoia and concern by the United

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<v Speaker 4>States that asymmetric warfare from these smaller armed forces can

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<v Speaker 4>more effectively be waged with this technology, and the US

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<v Speaker 4>military establishment is starting to grapple with what the meaning

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<v Speaker 4>of that is and how sort of the old way

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<v Speaker 4>of looking at warfare, including having established naval bases, can

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes not just be a benefit to that bigger force,

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<v Speaker 4>but can be a liability when this sort of asymmetric

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<v Speaker 4>warfare can be waged.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have substantial military assets in the Florida Keys

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<v Speaker 1>at Guantanamo Bay. Did any of the officials you speak

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<v Speaker 1>with reflect to you that the force posture or force

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<v Speaker 1>protection protocols would need to be changed as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of this emerging threat.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't say that because they don't want to make

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<v Speaker 4>a look as you can imagine that the United States

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<v Speaker 4>is weak or feels weak, especially against an opponent such

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<v Speaker 4>as Cuba. At the same time, they're sort of balancing

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<v Speaker 4>or balancing delicately on that high wire, which is at

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<v Speaker 4>one time saying that this thing is a threat, but oh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not imminent. The reality is, as the New York

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<v Speaker 4>Post I think first coined the term the Don Road doctrine,

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<v Speaker 4>is President Trump is keenly interested in force projection and

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<v Speaker 4>project us power throughout the hemisphere, and in the perceptions

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<v Speaker 4>of Donald Trump and certainly a Secretary of State Mark Rubio,

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<v Speaker 4>the sort of hub of the large wheel of anti

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<v Speaker 4>American Marxism and leftism is Cuba. It is the sort

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<v Speaker 4>of head of the snake, the center of those destabilizing efforts.

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<v Speaker 4>And this has been a long time target in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States, but since nineteen fifty nine to get rid

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<v Speaker 4>of the Cuban regime there. And that's what makes Cuba

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<v Speaker 4>at this point such an inviting target as far as

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<v Speaker 4>the United States is concerned, as well as a possible

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<v Speaker 4>one to sort of defeat through just slow, steady pressure.

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<v Speaker 4>As more and more sanctions are piled on and Cuba

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<v Speaker 4>runs out of fuel, it runs out of food, and

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<v Speaker 4>it runs out of money to be able to purchase

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<v Speaker 4>the first two.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost seems like a buried lead that there are

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand Cubans fighting in the Russia Ukraine War.

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<v Speaker 2>I've studied that pretty closely.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm sitting here thinking to myself, how did five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand Cubans get into that theater without the United States knowing?

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<v Speaker 1>And if we knew that there were some major transport

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<v Speaker 1>planes bringing five thousand people into.

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<v Speaker 2>That fight, why did we allow it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did it seem like that was maybe an unintentional part

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<v Speaker 1>of this discussion you had with the ADMIN officials.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It certainly surprised me, That's why I put it in.

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<v Speaker 4>And apparently the Cuban government had paid been paid as

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<v Speaker 4>many as twenty five thousand dollars for each head there.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Ukraine, or better said, Russia as also drafted

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<v Speaker 4>or paid mercenaries from North Korea as well. What's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of surprising in this entire matter is just the number

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<v Speaker 4>of reported casualties from Russia that the United States is reporting.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they claim it's upwards a five hundred thousand now,

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<v Speaker 4>which is just an astonishing amount. But as one of

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<v Speaker 4>the officials from the United States have told us, as

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<v Speaker 1>Your story comes out, it gets international attention, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just wonder if it was presented to you to coincide

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Of course, we expect him to that unseiling

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see these things as linked.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's hard not to see them as linked.

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<v Speaker 4>In addition to that, we have the sanctions that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>of the real trouble that Cuba is experiencing from the

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<v Speaker 4>United States is from the sanctions that have been slowly

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<v Speaker 4>for a reason because Marco Rubio, the child of the

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<v Speaker 4>Miami Cuban ex exile community, made sure that May Day,

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<v Speaker 4>the Communist Day, was interrupted by this sort of anti

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<v Speaker 4>Marxist messaging and executive order, and that has just made

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<v Speaker 4>it very difficult for foreign companies to do business in Cuba.

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<v Speaker 4>You're seeing more and more of them leave, You're probably

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<v Speaker 4>going to see more and more of them slapped with

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<v Speaker 1>Final question for you, you are very much a creature

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<v Speaker 2>You have a home in the Keys.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only imagine a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to you following this big scoop that you published.

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<v Speaker 1>How are people in the Keys and South Florida reacting

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<v Speaker 1>way we haven't in decades.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you hit the nail on the head. For a

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<v Speaker 4>long time, Key West has sort of been different from Miami,

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<v Speaker 4>and that Key West has always wanted this reproach mom

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<v Speaker 4>with a Cuba sort of nose strings attached. Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 4>do business, were ninety miles away. Good times here are

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<v Speaker 4>here again, That's what they've always wanted. But yes, I

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<v Speaker 4>did feel few phone calls from friends and people on

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<v Speaker 4>the island, including US one Radio, to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>they didn't have to duck and cover.

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<v Speaker 2>I told them no.

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<v Speaker 4>As the story had said, the United States doesn't believe

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<v Speaker 4>there's any threat of an imminent attack, but nevertheless, the

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<v Speaker 1>According to the United States, if the attack is coming

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<v Speaker 1>for Key West, the first reporter who will know will

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<v Speaker 1>be Axios's own Mark Capudo.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much as always for showing us. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>The race for Kentucky's fourth congressional district gets decided in

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<v Speaker 1>an election tomorrow. It has already been a historic contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Never before in American political history has a Republican primary

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<v Speaker 1>election costs so much We already know that more than

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<v Speaker 1>were on the ground in Kentucky and have that exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>The much watched race for Kentucky's fourth congressional district gets

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<v Speaker 1>decided in an election tomorrow, and it has already been

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<v Speaker 1>a historic contest. Never before in American political history has

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican primary election to the House of Representatives costs

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<v Speaker 1>so much money. We already know of more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars that's been spent in this rural, relatively poor

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky district, and estimates are once all expenditures are reported,

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<v Speaker 1>we can be looking at more than thirty five million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars spent when you combine both sides, regardless of who

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<v Speaker 1>you support in the race. It is just an astonishing figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirty five million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you like buy all of Kentucky for that amount?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just to put this into context, when I

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<v Speaker 1>removed Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker, he was big mad

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least, and he was flushed with cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Following his brief stint as Republican leader. He only spent

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<v Speaker 1>about four million dollars in a failed and quixotic attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to defeat me. So one would have to multiply Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's rage spending by a factor of five or six

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<v Speaker 1>times just to reach what we are seeing in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>So the big question why is this happening? The incumbent

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<v Speaker 1>in the races, Congressman Thomas Massey. Massey was first selected

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve. His tenure has been defined by a

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<v Speaker 1>very strong libertarian streak, which has put him at odds

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<v Speaker 1>with many of his Republican colleagues and the leader of

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party, President Trump. President Trump has campaigned against

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<v Speaker 1>Massey in this very district and has endorsed his opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Galleran. Massey hasn't just gotten on the wrong side

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump, He's also angered a pack. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>very strong lobby of Americans whose organizing principle is not

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<v Speaker 1>the support of America, but Israel. Trump has painted Massy

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<v Speaker 1>with some very blistering rhetoric and it has been a

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<v Speaker 1>in the effort to defeat Massy. It's a point that

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<v Speaker 1>Massy made light of at his recent rally that we

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<v Speaker 6>You know, just in case I lose, they gave me

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<v Speaker 7>The area code is tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 1>Though we traveled to Kentucky to get an inside look

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<v Speaker 1>at this race, who is showing up and who's showing out,

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<v Speaker 1>we also wanted to know how voters in Kentucky were

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<v Speaker 1>reacting to the deluge of advertising that accompanies these type

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<v Speaker 1>we caught up with Jeremy Todd he's with Independence Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>He can't even vote for or against Thomas Massey in

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican primary. Only Republicans will cast meaningful votes in

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<v Speaker 1>that contest. For the sheer amount of spend motivated mister

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<v Speaker 1>Todd to reject what was being pushed by outside forces.

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<v Speaker 8>We love Thomas Massey. He stands for liberty, freedom, and

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<v Speaker 8>we have to fight for him today.

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<v Speaker 3>The age gap.

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<v Speaker 8>Divide has really defined this race. The youth of America

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<v Speaker 8>wants Thomas Massey. It's all been grassroots all across the country.

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<v Speaker 8>Liberty lovers have supported him, and it's been unfortunately local

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<v Speaker 8>Fox News boomers who have been kind of duped by

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<v Speaker 8>the money that's trying to buy this race. I think

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<v Speaker 8>it sends a message that you cannot buy elections in

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can't buy.

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<v Speaker 8>All of them, at least right there is still a

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<v Speaker 8>place for people who love freedom and they don't do

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<v Speaker 8>what Mike Johnson tells him to do. They don't have

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<v Speaker 8>to do what the president tells him to do. They

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<v Speaker 1>Massy's opponent in this race is not new to politics,

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<v Speaker 1>enter Ed Galleran. He ran unsuccessfully for the state Senate

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<v Speaker 1>last election cycle. But now he has the most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>and potent thing imaginable in a twenty twenty six Republican primary,

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<v Speaker 1>the endorsement of the most popular Republican on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald J. Trump, and he's running.

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<v Speaker 2>Neck and neck with a fifteen year incumbent. That alone

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, in this election cycle, the only Republican

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<v Speaker 1>congressman who lost a primary was Tony Gonzalez, his legislative

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<v Speaker 1>aid turned paramore tragically killed herself by lighting herself on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>We could obviously say those are unique circumstances, but no

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<v Speaker 1>other Republican is lost in a primary other than Gonzales.

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<v Speaker 1>And here Massey is truly wired wire in the contest. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to learn more about Ed Galleran's campaign. Our

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<v Speaker 1>network reached out to his team to request an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>We did not hear back. So then we saw that

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Galleran was hosting a rally and we planned to

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<v Speaker 1>attend that rally. It was abruptly canceled the day it

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to happen. Gallerin had hosted similar gatherings with

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky voters.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's how that went.

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<v Speaker 9>So you might guess I'm not sud urge about nothing,

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<v Speaker 10>But you haven't abated them.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm debating you might now you know you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not debating them. You're You're giving a bunch of platitudes.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not explaining anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You've not gone Toed Tod with the Congressman. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>Is you're not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You're You're just you're just you're like, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Not explaining any differences. I just laid it all out

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<v Speaker 2>It made no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Galleran did appear on the Dan Bongino Show. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>his pitch in the final moments of this campaign to voters.

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<v Speaker 9>Now served its seven sealed teams and the units include

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<v Speaker 9>President asked me to meet with him on seventeen October

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<v Speaker 9>and he basically made a challenge to me to serve

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<v Speaker 9>my nation again. Lifetime member of the NRA Rifle and

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<v Speaker 9>Pistol Instructor that I'm a fifth generation farmer. We've been

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you stand on this? What frame the anchor

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<v Speaker 9>We have to be very wary in this nation of

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<v Speaker 11>In illegally and then to grow that population to diffuse

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the operative question for many voters in Kentucky is

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<v Speaker 1>whether they can be for both President Trump and Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump's wildly popular in Kentucky. He won the state

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<v Speaker 1>by more than thirty points. President Trump's pro energy development

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<v Speaker 1>policies have also been very good for Cold Country, and

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<v Speaker 1>the voters there love him.

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to many of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has served the Commonwealth since twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at his own grapples with President Trump, but his

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<v Speaker 1>message on the campaign trail, very interestingly is that you

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<v Speaker 1>can love both Massey and Trump.

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<v Speaker 12>There is no man and no woman in the House

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<v Speaker 12>of Representatives that is more faithful to the Constitution than

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<v Speaker 12>your Congressman. It is with pride and it is with

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<v Speaker 12>pleasure that I am here today to endorse Thomas Massey's

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<v Speaker 12>fornominal But there is a twenty five million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 12>That's how much money that's being spent in this primary,

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<v Speaker 12>more money than has ever been spent in any Republican

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<v Speaker 12>congressional primary.

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<v Speaker 13>Ever in the history of the United States.

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<v Speaker 14>Twenty five million. But here's the twenty five million dollar question.

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<v Speaker 14>Can you like Donald Trump and and Thomas Massey? I

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<v Speaker 14>say absolutely yes. The swamp wins, and Thomas Massey has

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<v Speaker 14>purged from the party if his voice is erased, what

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<v Speaker 14>happens next?

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you my response. I will tell you I will.

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<v Speaker 14>Say, and what you should say and what you should

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<v Speaker 14>do in the next few weeks is tell the big

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<v Speaker 14>government goons you're never giving them an inch, and tell them,

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<v Speaker 14>you know what, never ever are.

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<v Speaker 13>We going to allow evil to win?

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<v Speaker 2>And stay right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up is my interview with Congressman Thomas Massey from

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign trail in Kentucky. Plus Congresswoman Lauren Bobert was

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<v Speaker 1>on the trail with Massey. We've got her closing message

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<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky voters, along with congress Women Victoria Sparts and

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Warren Davidson. Also Ace Polster Richard Barris will join

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<v Speaker 1>us to break down the late numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go anywhere. The battle for the Bluegrass State is on.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Thomas Massey is in the fight for his political life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's aggressively campaigning in Kentucky, where we caught up with

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<v Speaker 1>him for an interview just before his rally in the

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<v Speaker 1>rural community of Florence.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a listen, tell us what how the campaign's been

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<v Speaker 2>so far.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been a slug fast. I'm told this is the

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<v Speaker 6>most expensive congressional primary in the history of this contract.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got three billionaires who are fueling the fire on

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<v Speaker 6>the other side, and on my side, I've got fifty

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<v Speaker 6>thousand grassroots does.

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<v Speaker 1>If you win this election, what message do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it sends to the country?

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<v Speaker 6>If when I win this election, right when it tells

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<v Speaker 6>him that this state is not for sale. You can't

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<v Speaker 6>come in with foreign special interest money and buy a

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<v Speaker 6>seat in Congress here in Kentucky. Go to some other

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<v Speaker 6>state and try it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not falling for If you're talking to an undecided

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<v Speaker 1>voter who's seen all the ads, what's your closing message

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<v Speaker 1>in these final moments.

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<v Speaker 6>My closing message is you can like Trump and you

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<v Speaker 6>can like Thomas at the same time. Because most of

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<v Speaker 6>my constituents like Trump and they're voting for me. But

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<v Speaker 6>I'm running against an AI candidate who's not without the eye.

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<v Speaker 2>He won't show up to debate. He's skipped eight debates

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<v Speaker 2>and forums.

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<v Speaker 6>He uses AI to do his posts, he uses AI

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<v Speaker 6>to do he's commercials. He thinks when he shakes his

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<v Speaker 6>fist at the TV at me, he's debating me. And

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<v Speaker 6>here's what he You know, I've run against people they

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<v Speaker 6>make promises and then you've seen these people in Congress.

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<v Speaker 6>They make all these promises while they're running. They get

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<v Speaker 6>to DC and they just go along to get along.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy I'm running against promises to go along to

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<v Speaker 2>get along. I've never seen this strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Every observer says age is the number one factor and

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<v Speaker 1>whether someone will vote for Thomas Massey. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that is And what's your hope for young people

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<v Speaker 1>to get out and vote on Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, age, you know, regardless of what pole you're looking at,

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<v Speaker 6>and some of them are crazy polls, but the one

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<v Speaker 6>thing we all see in common is there is.

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<v Speaker 2>A large disparity in age.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm winning everybody under fifty five that demographic probably by

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<v Speaker 6>thirty points, and if you go over sixty five, he's

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<v Speaker 6>winning that demographic. So if you guess the average age

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<v Speaker 6>of the voter wrong on election day, your poll's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be off. We've got influencers from all over the

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<v Speaker 6>country here. We're pushing to get out the young vote

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<v Speaker 6>and just like five percent more, you know, extra turnout

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<v Speaker 6>of people under the age of fifty five, which I

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<v Speaker 6>think is going to happen, will blow this race.

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<v Speaker 2>Out for us. You you often.

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<v Speaker 6>They're often a rally wasn't supposed to start.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you often are the loan vote on major

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<v Speaker 1>issues that are before the country. But we are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this ground swell of young people for you here in

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<v Speaker 1>the district and around America. What beyond just this race,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think that says about the future of

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party and the ideology and the and the

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<v Speaker 1>positions that will be reflected by the future of the vote.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the reason we've got the young voters is they're

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<v Speaker 6>better informed. They're watching podcasts, they're doing their own research,

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<v Speaker 6>they're on the internet. They know when something's AI and

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<v Speaker 6>when something's real. Okay, so they're better informed. I've got

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<v Speaker 6>great hope for this country because we've got the young vote,

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<v Speaker 6>and those are the future of the party. Matt, you've

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<v Speaker 6>heard the question, it's gonna be Marco Rubio, Is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be jd Vance?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is the future?

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<v Speaker 6>What's the future of the Republican Party. The future of

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<v Speaker 6>the party is the people who are supporting me. The

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<v Speaker 6>problem is that I vote against the party in Washington

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<v Speaker 6>DC ten percent of the time. The problem is the

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<v Speaker 6>Republican Party in Washington, d C. Is voting against the

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<v Speaker 6>American Republic ten percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, suh.

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<v Speaker 1>This race and the way you've funded it, raising small

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<v Speaker 1>dollars from people all over the country, it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like any House congressional.

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<v Speaker 2>Race ever in history.

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<v Speaker 1>So final question for you at the conclusion of this race,

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<v Speaker 1>are you off to Iowa to run for president?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 6>I will be here in Kentucky and DC doing my

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<v Speaker 6>job as a US representative, because if I'm not in

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<v Speaker 6>the House of Representatives, there is a voice that is

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<v Speaker 6>completely gone. The Epstein files would not have been released

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<v Speaker 6>if I weren't in Congress and the globalist.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Thomas Massey, that's so much. Thank you. I love

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<v Speaker 2>being on the campaign trail now.

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<v Speaker 1>During this very rally, President Trump took to social media

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<v Speaker 1>to blast Massey, but he did not just attack him.

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<v Speaker 1>He also went after Republican Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Bobert for

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<v Speaker 1>campaigning alongside Massey. She took it in stride and says

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<v Speaker 1>she still supports both Trump and Massey, and she brought

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of energy to the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 15>Great to be here where you can feel the freedom,

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<v Speaker 15>you can feel liberty, and I am so excited that

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<v Speaker 15>you are here. To show up strong for my friend

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<v Speaker 15>Thomas Massey. This race will determine the future of all

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<v Speaker 15>other races. You all understand the millions of dollars that

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<v Speaker 15>have been poured in by billionaires.

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<v Speaker 7>Even a billionaire that's in the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 15>But on Tuesday you have got to send a clear

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<v Speaker 15>message that Kentucky is not for sale. Right now, you

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<v Speaker 15>have a congressman who does exactly what he promises you

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<v Speaker 15>he will do.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyone can go to Washington, DC and read a room.

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<v Speaker 15>Your congressman reads the Constitution, He reads.

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<v Speaker 7>The day bills.

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<v Speaker 15>This is a man who is not afraid to be

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<v Speaker 15>the only one to take a stand. He is not

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<v Speaker 15>a that's right to go back in the rooms and

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<v Speaker 15>actually negotiate good things to be in legislation, even when

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<v Speaker 15>he doesn't vote for the final product on the floor,

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<v Speaker 15>I guarantee you he was part of the negotiation to

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<v Speaker 15>at least make the bill a little bit better for you.

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<v Speaker 15>I support our president and I support Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the President will still support me after this weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll see. But I want to thank you all so much.

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<v Speaker 15>Thank you for getting out the vote Kentucky and con

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<v Speaker 15>for sale.

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<v Speaker 7>Vote for Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 1>Though President Trump attacks Congressman Bobert for her appearance in Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>he gave no mention of the other two members of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress who joined the event. Here's Ohio Congressman Warren Davidson.

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<v Speaker 16>On so many issues, Thomas serves as a beacon. He's

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<v Speaker 16>out there pointing the way. And I will tell you,

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<v Speaker 16>on issue after issue, people might see that Thomas votes

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<v Speaker 16>know and a lot of my colleagues have already come

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<v Speaker 16>up here and talked about how he's collaborative and he

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<v Speaker 16>works behind the scenes. Now he's fixed. He doesn't on moving.

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<v Speaker 16>When he's taken the position, people know where he stands.

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<v Speaker 16>He wants a smaller government. I want a smaller map.

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<v Speaker 17>You would think that when you have a time where

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<v Speaker 17>you have a Republican majority in the House, a Republican

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<v Speaker 17>majority in the Senate, and a president who all say

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<v Speaker 17>they want a smaller, more accountable government, that at.

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<v Speaker 16>Least occasionally you would get a smaller, more accountable government.

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<v Speaker 16>But as you can see from the debt badge, it

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<v Speaker 16>only grows, right, it only grows. And I will say

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<v Speaker 16>Thomas in those times has the courage to hold and

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<v Speaker 16>if he wasn't there, we wouldn't we would turn left

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<v Speaker 16>even harder day. Privacies under attack, I would say the

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<v Speaker 16>Third Amendments under attack. You're giving quarter to the government

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<v Speaker 16>and everything from your cars, to your phones, to your homes,

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<v Speaker 16>everything the government, your bank accounts, everything the government wants

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<v Speaker 16>to look at it. But you know one person for

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<v Speaker 16>sure is going to be on the right side of

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<v Speaker 16>every one of those constitutional issues. Thomas Massey wants to

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<v Speaker 16>restore our government small enough to fit in the constitution.

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<v Speaker 2>You need.

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<v Speaker 16>Ni a party that delivers on the things we say

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<v Speaker 16>we stand for, or we're going to be a party

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<v Speaker 16>that's governed by which way the wind's blowing. And look,

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<v Speaker 16>populism's great. We want our ideas to be popular, we

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<v Speaker 16>want them to be principal. I know Thomas Massey is

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<v Speaker 16>a principled man, and I am so glad to have

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<v Speaker 16>him as a friend and a colleague. Please send Thomas

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<v Speaker 16>Massey back to Congress and make sure your friends do too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Ohio Republican Congressman Warren Davidson.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with more from the campaign trail

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<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>We're continuing our coverage of the campaign for Kentucky's fourth

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<v Speaker 1>congressional district, the most expensive Republican primary for congress in history.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to get right to the polling and the

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<v Speaker 1>data to assess where this race stands. Joining us now

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<v Speaker 1>the man the myth of the legend, the director of

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<v Speaker 1>big data poll and host of Inside the Numbers with

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<v Speaker 1>the people's pundit, the people's punnet, himself, Richard Barris Rich.

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<v Speaker 1>This big election is tomorrow in Kentucky. Bring us inside

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers in the fourth Congressional District.

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<v Speaker 10>No thanks for having me, As always, Matt, this has

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<v Speaker 10>been probably the most interesting race to poll since the

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<v Speaker 10>twenty four election and the district itself. As you know,

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<v Speaker 10>obviously it's hard to poll districts because a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 10>votes here are there sways the margin quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But this this.

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<v Speaker 10>District is very contrarian. It's libertarian leaning, so it fits

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<v Speaker 10>Thomas Massey well. That being said, who votes in primaries

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<v Speaker 10>older voters and older voters are certainly the ones that

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<v Speaker 10>are most loyal to Donald Trump. So this race has

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<v Speaker 10>been dead even basically for a few days. This is

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<v Speaker 10>what people need to know. Massy has a broader basis support,

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<v Speaker 10>but they have to vote. If they don't, then the

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<v Speaker 10>more reliable older electorate is ed Golran's electorate and they'll

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<v Speaker 10>carry it for him. So it really is like one

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<v Speaker 10>of these things, Matt, where you know, you want to

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<v Speaker 10>give some of those younger voters, you know, the you

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<v Speaker 10>want to give them the benefit of the doubt that

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<v Speaker 10>they're going to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Out and vote.

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<v Speaker 10>But you do know how strong President Trump is when

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<v Speaker 10>he motivates older voters to get out. So it really

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<v Speaker 10>is a coin toss at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never seen a race where you know, you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen this amount of money spent and when you see

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty five million dollars potentially in a race.

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<v Speaker 2>After what point does that.

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<v Speaker 1>Start to become diminishing returns or does that start to

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<v Speaker 1>turn off voters? Or is the old adage correct that

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<v Speaker 1>in any political contest you want all the money and

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<v Speaker 1>all the votes and anything less than full throttle is suboptimal.

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<v Speaker 10>Look, you know you want money. I mean, there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 10>But we did speak to a lot of people live

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<v Speaker 10>in this entire time that we've been polling this race,

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<v Speaker 10>and it is a frequent thing that we hear that

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<v Speaker 10>the people of the fourth are not used to this

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<v Speaker 10>kind of money and this kind of attention, and a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of them who I think could have been persuaded

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<v Speaker 10>to move on from Congressman Massey for different reasons. I

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<v Speaker 10>think the race is even this close still despite that

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<v Speaker 10>money because some of these people just they didn't like

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<v Speaker 10>this approach, and I think the outside money offended them.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think this is what they're saying. They're very

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<v Speaker 10>skeptical of that. So if Thomas Massey survives, it's because

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<v Speaker 10>the gall Ring campaign chose to go totally negative, chose

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<v Speaker 10>to not really define who he was but instead wrote

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<v Speaker 10>out I mean, let's be honest, We're being perfectly honest.

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<v Speaker 10>Ed Golran is running a Joe Biden campaign. He's hiding mostly,

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<v Speaker 10>and he came out yes over the weekend to do

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<v Speaker 10>some stuff, or at least try to do some stuff,

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<v Speaker 10>and he appear with Pete Haik said today, But the

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<v Speaker 10>voters of the district really didn't know what he stood

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<v Speaker 10>for other than I'm endorsed by Donald Trump. And that

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<v Speaker 10>works with the sixty two in older crowd who vote

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<v Speaker 10>in primaries. So understandable why the President's advisors and team,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, this team went with this strategy. I'm just

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<v Speaker 10>saying that if it falls shy, it'll be because of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, yeah, there's something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that every election is kind of about one

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<v Speaker 1>big question, And I ask you this one because I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know the answer to it. But is this

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<v Speaker 1>election a referendum on Donald Trump? Or is it a

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<v Speaker 1>referendum on Thomas Massey?

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<v Speaker 10>You know, that's a We've been trying to answer this

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<v Speaker 10>question for the better part of two weeks. Honestly, the

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<v Speaker 10>district isn't like other Republican districts, so I would really

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<v Speaker 10>caution people to be careful what they read into this.

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<v Speaker 10>It is a contrarian district. It is one that leans

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<v Speaker 10>more libertarian than it does like some of the districts

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<v Speaker 10>you and I are more familiar with. In Florida. Right,

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<v Speaker 10>Trump is king there and that's it. This is not

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<v Speaker 10>the case in Kentucky. For however, I do think that

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<v Speaker 10>there is one line that the Galleryan campaign has used

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<v Speaker 10>that would seem to indicate at least part of this

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<v Speaker 10>is a referendum on Thomas Massey, and that's the line

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<v Speaker 10>that there's a difference between being principled and being obstructionist.

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<v Speaker 10>We do hear that quite a bit, and some people

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<v Speaker 10>you have I think they're basically those people who are

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<v Speaker 10>wondering that are basically split. One side says I may

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<v Speaker 10>not like it, and I'm not always in agreement with him,

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<v Speaker 10>but at least I know who Thomas Massey is, and

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<v Speaker 10>at least I know those are his votes. Ed is

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<v Speaker 10>getting bankrolled by three billionaires and you know, a foreign

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<v Speaker 10>pack and I don't like it. But the other half

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<v Speaker 10>is saying, maybe it is time because it could have

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<v Speaker 10>cost us the big beautiful bill.

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<v Speaker 2>So that there is that is a.

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<v Speaker 10>Debate going on, I think the answer is probably gonna

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<v Speaker 10>end up both Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Welleren, the election is a referendum on Donald Trump. Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>Massey is going to lose the election because Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is the most potent force in politics in.

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<v Speaker 2>Every congressional district.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if I were Massey, I would not want

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<v Speaker 1>the election to be a referendum on Trump, because Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is going to end up on the stronger part of

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<v Speaker 1>that question. Massey asked to if he has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to win the election, he has to make it a

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<v Speaker 1>referendum on himself. Ed Galleran seems to be similarly willing

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<v Speaker 1>to make the election a referendum on Thomas Massey. Now, Richard,

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<v Speaker 1>I have never I've studied politics a long time, I

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<v Speaker 1>have never seen a race where age was the most

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<v Speaker 1>dispositive factor in how a vote would be cast.

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<v Speaker 2>So talk to us about why age, above.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost all else, determines whether or not a voter is

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<v Speaker 1>likely to vote for Ed Gallerin or Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 10>This and I have gone back into our data sets

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<v Speaker 10>to look at all of the races that we have

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<v Speaker 10>pulled over the years, even general elections, and it's tough

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<v Speaker 10>to find one that's comparable to this. Every generation below boomers,

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<v Speaker 10>So the boomer and silent gen Although Kentucky four doesn't

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<v Speaker 10>have many silent generations left, it doesn't have much registration

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<v Speaker 10>growth with the sixty two and above at all, Matt,

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<v Speaker 10>And that's what really Massy's clinging to right now. They

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<v Speaker 10>support Gallrin anywhere between twenty five and thirty five points.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty two and above.

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<v Speaker 10>That's been his performance with them, and they are the

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<v Speaker 10>most loyal vote to Donald Trump. And good for Gallan

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<v Speaker 10>is that they vote in primaries. Massey wins everyone else,

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<v Speaker 10>and Folks, I'm not just talking about small little margins.

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<v Speaker 10>He clabbers at Gallroan with millennials three to one. He

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<v Speaker 10>clabers him with gen Z even with gen X. Now

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<v Speaker 10>Massey has pulled into a lead. His problem is that

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<v Speaker 10>gen X is and isn't voting at high as high

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<v Speaker 10>rates as boomers. So this is why this thing is

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<v Speaker 10>so close. I'm getting concerned, Matt, with this entire generational

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<v Speaker 10>question with the party.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly wrote a book about it.

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<v Speaker 10>Just recently, Republicans are seeming to govern for like the

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<v Speaker 10>govern for the Fox Boomer Cohn, which is a minority

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<v Speaker 10>of the Boomer generation, and they're leaving out or just

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<v Speaker 10>ignoring the fact that very soon, within less than.

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<v Speaker 2>A decade, the electorate will rapidly.

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<v Speaker 10>Change and Thomas Massey's coalition will basically be the only

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<v Speaker 10>way to win elections. So this is something that has

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<v Speaker 10>been weighing on me throughout this whole thing. The Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 10>It's an important race. The Republican Party has got to

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<v Speaker 10>decide whether they care to cater to these voters at all,

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<v Speaker 10>because if they don't, they're gonna find winning general elections

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<v Speaker 10>in the future very difficult. Millennials will be the biggest

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<v Speaker 10>block sooner than many people realize. Everyone's acting and pretending

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<v Speaker 10>as if the Fox boomer Cohn is gonna be it. It's not.

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<v Speaker 10>It'll be over soon and just the reality we all

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<v Speaker 10>have to face.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously Fox News is television for very low IQ people,

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<v Speaker 1>and it should be noted that President Trump is currently

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<v Speaker 1>suing the parent company to Fox News for lying about him.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do see the electorate expanding here. I've looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the data from some of the early voting days.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a low turnout race. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>a laro a high turnout race. I know Chris los Avita, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the very competent consultant for Ed Galleran Chris los

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<v Speaker 1>Avita likes expanding the electorate. He likes going to those

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<v Speaker 1>low propensities, educating them, turning them out. He feels like

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<v Speaker 1>that's money in the bank. Which side has an advantage

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<v Speaker 1>if we start to see numbers that continue to show

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<v Speaker 1>high turnout.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so typically it would be you would the incumbent

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<v Speaker 10>would want lower turnout because the incumbent will benefit from

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<v Speaker 10>incumbency like that obviously, but in this case, there really

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<v Speaker 10>are two scenarios with high turnout benefiting both candidates. One

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<v Speaker 10>is what los Avita wants, and there is evidence, and

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<v Speaker 10>you know we've been talking about this, there's evidence in

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<v Speaker 10>the last few nights that what he's doing is working.

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<v Speaker 10>So you know, this targeting of lower propens the older voters,

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<v Speaker 10>particularly sixteen above, sixty two and above, they have become

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<v Speaker 10>more of the electorate over the last two days. We

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<v Speaker 10>can see it clear as day in the collection. And

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<v Speaker 10>then the other one that benefits Massy is just where

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<v Speaker 10>the electorate overall is increased. Because sixty five and above

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<v Speaker 10>is only about twenty five percent of Kentucky four, Massy

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<v Speaker 10>needs these young voters to come out, so he needs

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<v Speaker 10>high turnout, but he can't let he can't let Galren's

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<v Speaker 10>team do it on their own terms because that'll just

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<v Speaker 10>lead to a larger margin for Galleran. Just to give

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<v Speaker 10>people an idea, it's dead even among all likely voters

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<v Speaker 10>in the latest that I'm about to put up right now.

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<v Speaker 10>But if you look at most certain to vote and

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<v Speaker 10>people who already voted, Galryn has about a four point lead.

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<v Speaker 10>So Massy needs them to come out or he's gonna lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, turning out gen Z millennial voters on election day

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<v Speaker 1>is hard. That's why in so much of what we

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<v Speaker 1>did in President Trump's campaign because Psident Trump dominated with

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<v Speaker 1>voters under the age of thirty, so everything was about

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<v Speaker 1>to get them to vote early, get them to return ballots.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're four points back at this stage of the

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<v Speaker 1>game with folks who've already voted, that's typically not a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign. But we will be watching it closely while

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<v Speaker 1>I have you, Richard, the midterms coming up. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>rising prices continuing to impact how voters are seeing things now.

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<v Speaker 2>But if this.

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<v Speaker 1>War resolves, if all of the crud goes into processing

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<v Speaker 1>and we see supply side energy shock with all the

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<v Speaker 1>victories Republicans are getting in redistricting. Is it too crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to think Mike Johnson could hold on to the speaker's gable.

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<v Speaker 10>Listen, I'm not there yet, and I'll tell you why

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<v Speaker 10>i am not there. I want them. I wanted them

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<v Speaker 10>to redistrict to the point where if they lost by

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<v Speaker 10>a margin we saw in the New York Times poll

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<v Speaker 10>today which mirrors big out a pole, we have them

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<v Speaker 10>down by eleven two, it would still be okay, or

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<v Speaker 10>it would still give them a fighting chance. The problem

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<v Speaker 10>with this is even if we get to the point

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<v Speaker 10>where they only need to win three toss ups, their

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<v Speaker 10>toss ups in a neutral environment, it's the nation mood

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<v Speaker 10>stays negative for Republicans. Republicans are going to struggle, and

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<v Speaker 10>it will not just be whether they got to hold

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<v Speaker 10>those battleground districts, so it'll be can they actually keep

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<v Speaker 10>some of the Trump plus tens in down? Because Trump

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<v Speaker 10>outperformed congressional Republicans all over the math, and we tend

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<v Speaker 10>to look at his vote chair and compare it to Republicans,

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<v Speaker 10>and Republicans don't understand that without them on the ballot,

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<v Speaker 10>it's a little hard to perform like that right, So

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<v Speaker 10>you know, I'm just not there yet, although I'm the

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<v Speaker 10>entire point about you know, my arguments in the last

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<v Speaker 10>six months have been because I refuse to concede that

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<v Speaker 10>they have to lose the House, and that's completely unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 10>This like pendulum swing we talk about in the modern era,

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<v Speaker 10>is a modern phenomenon. It started in ninety four with

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<v Speaker 10>the Republican Revolution. Before that, Congress could be held by

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<v Speaker 10>the same party for decade, two decades, all right, I

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<v Speaker 10>mean it was common, So I never I never subscribed

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<v Speaker 10>to the idea mat of just expecting you're going to

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<v Speaker 10>lose because you're the first term incumbent party.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's about perception.

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<v Speaker 10>Voters have to feel like Republican and the presidents specifically

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<v Speaker 10>are much much more focused on their problems at home

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<v Speaker 10>and not everything else that really they views distractions abroad wise.

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<v Speaker 1>Words from the People's Pundit Richard Barris, head of Big

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<v Speaker 1>Data Pull, Thanks as always for coming on and breaking.

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<v Speaker 3>It down anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt, all the best, and coming up, we're back to

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign trail in Kentucky with Indiana Congresswoman Victoria's Sparts.

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<v Speaker 1>She took the stage and had a very rousing message

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<v Speaker 1>for those in Florence.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Congresswoman Victoria Sparts is a deeply independent minded lawmaker. She

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<v Speaker 1>was born in Ukraine and has spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>her time in Congress as a searing critic of Vladimir Zelenski.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Judiciary Committee, She's battled against abuses in America's

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<v Speaker 1>spying program. That's where she's worked most closely with Thomas Massey,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is one of the most fiscally conservative people

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<v Speaker 1>in all of Washington. Following her stint as an auditor

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<v Speaker 1>for one of America's largest financial firms. This week, she

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<v Speaker 1>was on fire and on the campaign trail for Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 1>embattled congressman.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a listen, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 18>I'll tell you why this Yankee bro from Noble taking

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<v Speaker 18>the great State of Indiana to support my guy friend.

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<v Speaker 13>And I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, obviously you can tell that I still have

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<v Speaker 18>some Yankee absent. Obviously you know you can say that

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<v Speaker 18>I wasn't born in my great state of Indiana.

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<v Speaker 13>And I'll tell you why I was born. Was born

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<v Speaker 13>in the Soviet Union, now the country in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 18>And you see what's happening in the contrast like that,

914
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<v Speaker 18>I was born under communists and dictatorship walk since and

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<v Speaker 18>I've done, I've done. I've seen how many people we'll destroy,

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<v Speaker 18>how many lives we've destroyed. And as an American twenty

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<v Speaker 18>six years ago, crossing the ocean.

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<v Speaker 15>These idealistic ideas.

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<v Speaker 18>Of freedom, a free republic was one suitcase as many

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<v Speaker 18>Americans came here two hundred and fifteen years ago for

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<v Speaker 18>the battles.

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<v Speaker 7>I came from a country.

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<v Speaker 18>Of opportunities and dream and I thought, this is America,

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<v Speaker 18>the kind of freedom. And when I saw what's happening

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<v Speaker 18>in the country, when I saw what's happening.

926
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<v Speaker 13>With our young people.

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<v Speaker 18>When I've seen how many great Americans forwarded the trenches

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<v Speaker 18>and sacrifices, we are.

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<v Speaker 13>Destroying our freedoms.

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<v Speaker 18>I became crazy enough to become a politician, and it

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<v Speaker 18>was a cheap body organized and twenty years ago my

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<v Speaker 18>kids went strollest.

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<v Speaker 13>Now they're in college. You know, a sud I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh I am ge. I thought it

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<v Speaker 7>was a kind of freedom.

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<v Speaker 18>This is done and like Russian style politics, Marvel, I'm a.

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<v Speaker 13>Woof this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 18>I could not as an American who loved this country.

939
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<v Speaker 18>There's so many Americans who came here because.

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<v Speaker 19>They understood we don't have kings and queens, we don't

941
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<v Speaker 19>have someone on top's gonna tell us what to do,

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<v Speaker 19>and they sacrifice their lives that we keep this republic.

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<v Speaker 18>This is an anniversity two hot and fifties anniversary, and

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<v Speaker 18>I think this battles for a reason. God always has

945
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<v Speaker 18>a plan. I truly believe if God wouldn't have a plan,

946
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<v Speaker 18>I would not be aving Congress.

947
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<v Speaker 1>But I have me.

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<v Speaker 7>Where's my Yankee accent?

949
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<v Speaker 18>Body?

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<v Speaker 13>Stood? Im ta five gone? The afriaking Marxist. I'm far

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<v Speaker 13>the people. I want reconnible. Okay, this is not a

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<v Speaker 13>party that used to be.

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<v Speaker 7>They're crazy, But.

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<v Speaker 20>My party, if we are silent and not willing to

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<v Speaker 20>stand up, we allow them to succeed.

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<v Speaker 7>We allow them, We allow them.

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<v Speaker 13>To take over the country.

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<v Speaker 7>So I did responsibility for my party.

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<v Speaker 13>And I take a come after my leadership of my

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<v Speaker 13>party because.

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<v Speaker 20>I feel if you will to lead the party, you

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<v Speaker 20>have to stand up for the people, people that promise

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<v Speaker 20>to keep your promises, and like to have people they're

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<v Speaker 20>going to rub a stamp, They'll like to have people

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<v Speaker 20>that are going to do exactly what money machine wants.

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<v Speaker 13>They don't want free in love with people.

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<v Speaker 18>This is the Kentuck He's gonna have true representitive that

968
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<v Speaker 18>fights for you, that knows that if you if farmers

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<v Speaker 18>don't get on the field, the farmists don't have.

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<v Speaker 7>An ability to save family farms.

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<v Speaker 18>We are going to have oligopolists and Chinese and Brazilian

972
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<v Speaker 18>cartels destroy our agriculture like they did your manufacturing and lighting.

973
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<v Speaker 18>And now we have all this new controlling over state.

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<v Speaker 18>He's willing to go the strengers and a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 18>no matter how hard I always seen Thomas, he goes

976
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<v Speaker 18>to the strenches and never afraid to do it.

977
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<v Speaker 13>He never afraid to say, you know, guys, this is wrong.

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<v Speaker 13>That's not what people elected us to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Congresswoman victorious parts on the campaign trail with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fire. That's all the time we have. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a quick programming note. I'll be on assignment tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Our good friend Riley Lewis, co anchor of the Anchorman podcast.

983
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<v Speaker 1>He'll be here with the Wheel, So make sure to

984
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985
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<v Speaker 1>stay right here Fine Point with Chanel Ryan is up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go get them.

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