Speaker 1: Is Cuba about to launch three hundred attack drones against
Speaker 1: the United States. Ace Axios reporter Mark Kuputo broke the
Speaker 1: big story, and he joins us at the top of
Speaker 1: this hour to explain the threat from the communist dictatorship
Speaker 1: just ninety miles away. Plus, Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey has
Speaker 1: angered President Trump and is now in the fight for
Speaker 1: his political life. What is happening in the most expensive
Speaker 1: Republican primary for Congress in history. We were on the
Speaker 1: ground in the Bluegrass Straight state over the weekend. We
Speaker 1: have exclusive coverage from the very rally that had President
Speaker 1: Trump doubling down on the race. Pollster Richard Barriss will
Speaker 1: stop by to break down all the numbers. It's all
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Speaker 1: As we join you this evening, Axios reports a chilling
Speaker 1: development just ninety miles south of Flora. US intelligence says
Speaker 1: Cuba has acquired more than three hundred military grade drones
Speaker 1: and has discussed using them against military assets in Guantanamo Bay,
Speaker 1: against vessels in the Florida Straits, and possibly even against
Speaker 1: Key West. And before you go thinking Key West is
Speaker 1: a soft target, it is not. The eight square mile
Speaker 1: island is home to two major military installations, Naval Air
Speaker 1: Station Key West, which is home to some very combat
Speaker 1: ready F eighteen super hornets, and Jaiadic South, which is
Speaker 1: a key intelligence and monitoring node for all kinds of
Speaker 1: intere addictions throughout the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific. I've
Speaker 1: been there and personally observed the mission. It is robust.
Speaker 1: Key West is not just some playground for fantasy fest
Speaker 1: and vacation and gay people. It is a hardened US
Speaker 1: military asset, and that really aligns with history. Key West
Speaker 1: was a key Union stronghold during the Civil War, and.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of Brits.
Speaker 1: There during the Revolutionary War chasing down French pirates. Now,
Speaker 1: the drones at issue in this story reportedly came from
Speaker 1: Russia and Iran, two regimes already using drone warfare extensively
Speaker 1: to menace US interests around the world. This is exactly
Speaker 1: the kind of threat that Trump administration has been warning
Speaker 1: about America's enemies no longer need expensive big aircraft carriers
Speaker 1: or even fighter jets to threaten the homeland. They just
Speaker 1: need cheap, attriatable drones, and hostile regimes would have a
Speaker 1: potential launch pad close to our shores if Cuba allows
Speaker 1: it now. CIA director John Ratcliffe traveled to Cuba last
Speaker 1: week and delivered a very direct warning the island cannot
Speaker 1: be allowed to serve as a staging ground for America's
Speaker 1: adversaries or the adversaries of peace in the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 1: Cuba is long believed to have been the exporter of
Speaker 1: so much of the disruption that has seen the political
Speaker 1: left obtained some strongholds in places like Ecuador, Nicola, and Venezuela.
Speaker 1: Now we also expect action this week from the US
Speaker 1: Department of Justice. The indictment of former Cuban leader Raoul
Speaker 1: Castro is likely to be unsealed Wednesday. Raoul is the
Speaker 1: brother of Fidel Castro and ordered the killing of the
Speaker 1: much famed Ermano cel Rascate or Brothers to the Rescue.
Speaker 1: These brothers were Cuban expats based in Miami. They would
Speaker 1: deploy small boats and aircraft to rescue Cubans who were
Speaker 1: fleeing the Communist dictatorship via the dangerous shark infested waters
Speaker 1: of the Florida Straits. The Brothers made hundreds of daring rescues,
Speaker 1: saving thousands of lives that otherwise would have been lost
Speaker 1: to these torrent waters. They've long been rumored to have
Speaker 1: been aided by the CIA during many of these missions,
Speaker 1: and on February twenty fourth, nineteen ninety six, they were
Speaker 1: shot down on the orders of the Castro Brothers. Justice
Speaker 1: for the Brothers to the rescue could be coming this week.
Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegsath also so flagged the danger
Speaker 1: of foreign powers operating high tech intelligence facilities so close
Speaker 1: to the United States. That's the China play to buy
Speaker 1: out old Russian assets that have been rusted out or
Speaker 1: degrading in Cuba for the last two decades and then
Speaker 1: convert them into highly capable, dual use military assets. Keep
Speaker 1: in mind, the United States tests most of our weapons
Speaker 1: system that do air to air and air to land
Speaker 1: over the Gulf of Mexico. When I was a Congressman
Speaker 1: for North Florida, I put hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 1: into developing test assets in the Gulf Test range, because
Speaker 1: that's a place typically where the United States had the
Speaker 1: ability to do these sensitive military maneuvers without some foreign
Speaker 1: power listening. Now, Cuba cannot be allowed to become China's
Speaker 1: stationary aircraft carrier just ninety miles south of Florida. DoD
Speaker 1: officials say Cuba has been receiving drones from Russia and
Speaker 1: Iran since twenty twenty three, while Cuban personnel well have
Speaker 1: reportedly been fighting for Russia in Ukraine and learning drone
Speaker 1: tactics on the battlefield. Reportedly, Russia is paying Cuba about
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars per Cuban that they produce for
Speaker 1: the meat grinder that is the Russia war against Ukraine. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Iranian drone warfare has already damaged American bases and disrupted
Speaker 1: shipping in the Middle East as a.
Speaker 2: Consequence of that war.
Speaker 1: So officials do not believe Cuba right now is preparing
Speaker 1: some sort of offensive imminent attack. It's more likely that
Speaker 1: they're preparing a planned retaliation, but the threat here is
Speaker 1: no longer theoretical. A weak, collapsing Marxist regime backed by Russia,
Speaker 1: Iran and China is now reportedly studying how to bring modern.
Speaker 2: Drone warfare to America's doorstep. Joining us now is the
Speaker 2: man who broke the story.
Speaker 1: White House correspondent and senior political reporter for Axios and
Speaker 1: well known member of the conc Republic, Mark Capudo.
Speaker 2: MARKU identified three.
Speaker 1: Areas of potential Cuban drone strikes in your story of
Speaker 1: the Florida Straits, Key West and Guantanamo Bay. Do you
Speaker 1: have a sense from your discussions with administration officials which
Speaker 1: are more or less.
Speaker 4: Likely the naval base on Guantanamo or the Guantanamo Baying
Speaker 4: naval based simply because it's on Cuba, it's also a
Speaker 4: good military target for other military to strike. To be clear,
Speaker 4: one of the reasons the United States has this concern
Speaker 4: is not only do they claim or say that this
Speaker 4: was picked up in the chatter, but a military base
Speaker 4: or military basis in the Middle East had been struck
Speaker 4: by Iranian drones and they figured that this would be
Speaker 4: sort of a copycat attack.
Speaker 2: Mark.
Speaker 1: I read this piece and I got the sense that
Speaker 1: it was an approved leak, Like I could just imagine
Speaker 1: President Trump being briefed on these three hundred drones being
Speaker 1: purchased and saying that he wanted to get that information out.
Speaker 1: I know yours well sourced as anyone in the press
Speaker 1: corps when it comes to the Trump administration, But did
Speaker 1: you get this sense that there it was like approved
Speaker 1: leak energy around your discussions, and if so, do you
Speaker 1: think that signals forthcoming efforts for regime change in Cuba?
Speaker 4: I could certainly say that there were members of the
Speaker 4: administration wanted to get this out, and that's why I
Speaker 4: got out. As for just what regime change is going
Speaker 4: to look like and when, I'm not sure, but it's
Speaker 4: certainly part of a long standing pressure campaign. What I
Speaker 4: don't know, and what we don't know, is did this
Speaker 4: information get out because the United States wants to use
Speaker 4: this as a negotiating chip, a bargaining chip to try
Speaker 4: to get the Cubans at the table, or is this
Speaker 4: just basically a pretext to go to war by the
Speaker 4: United States. Now I'm being waved off of the idea
Speaker 4: that any of these strikes are imminent, or that any
Speaker 4: military action by the United States is imminent. But nevertheless,
Speaker 4: I've never seen this amount of hostility from the US
Speaker 4: toward Cuba or Cuba toward the US, and all my
Speaker 4: years reporting on.
Speaker 1: This, well, your story does link these Cuban drone purchases
Speaker 1: to what's happening more broadly in the Russia Ukraine War.
Speaker 1: Walk us through what evidence you think establishes those connections
Speaker 1: other than someone just asserting it.
Speaker 4: The ties to the Ukraine War is what the officials
Speaker 4: had told us, which is essentially that not only have
Speaker 4: the Iranians use drone technology and swarms of drones effectively
Speaker 4: the Middle East, but there were as many as five
Speaker 4: thousand Cuban nationals, Cuban soldiers who had allegedly been drafted
Speaker 4: by Putin into the war in Ukraine, and they came
Speaker 4: back to Cuba and said, Hey, these drones that Ukraine
Speaker 4: is using against Cuba, or better said, Russia are being
Speaker 4: used with devastating effect. These are things that Cuba should get.
Speaker 4: The more important aspect I think of this is that
Speaker 4: there is just this paranoia and concern by the United
Speaker 4: States that asymmetric warfare from these smaller armed forces can
Speaker 4: more effectively be waged with this technology, and the US
Speaker 4: military establishment is starting to grapple with what the meaning
Speaker 4: of that is and how sort of the old way
Speaker 4: of looking at warfare, including having established naval bases, can
Speaker 4: sometimes not just be a benefit to that bigger force,
Speaker 4: but can be a liability when this sort of asymmetric
Speaker 4: warfare can be waged.
Speaker 1: We do have substantial military assets in the Florida Keys
Speaker 1: at Guantanamo Bay. Did any of the officials you speak
Speaker 1: with reflect to you that the force posture or force
Speaker 1: protection protocols would need to be changed as a result
Speaker 1: of this emerging threat.
Speaker 4: They didn't say that because they don't want to make
Speaker 4: a look as you can imagine that the United States
Speaker 4: is weak or feels weak, especially against an opponent such
Speaker 4: as Cuba. At the same time, they're sort of balancing
Speaker 4: or balancing delicately on that high wire, which is at
Speaker 4: one time saying that this thing is a threat, but oh,
Speaker 4: it's not imminent. The reality is, as the New York
Speaker 4: Post I think first coined the term the Don Road doctrine,
Speaker 4: is President Trump is keenly interested in force projection and
Speaker 4: project us power throughout the hemisphere, and in the perceptions
Speaker 4: of Donald Trump and certainly a Secretary of State Mark Rubio,
Speaker 4: the sort of hub of the large wheel of anti
Speaker 4: American Marxism and leftism is Cuba. It is the sort
Speaker 4: of head of the snake, the center of those destabilizing efforts.
Speaker 4: And this has been a long time target in the
Speaker 4: United States, but since nineteen fifty nine to get rid
Speaker 4: of the Cuban regime there. And that's what makes Cuba
Speaker 4: at this point such an inviting target as far as
Speaker 4: the United States is concerned, as well as a possible
Speaker 4: one to sort of defeat through just slow, steady pressure.
Speaker 4: As more and more sanctions are piled on and Cuba
Speaker 4: runs out of fuel, it runs out of food, and
Speaker 4: it runs out of money to be able to purchase
Speaker 4: the first two.
Speaker 1: It almost seems like a buried lead that there are
Speaker 1: five thousand Cubans fighting in the Russia Ukraine War.
Speaker 2: I've studied that pretty closely.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sitting here thinking to myself, how did five
Speaker 1: thousand Cubans get into that theater without the United States knowing?
Speaker 1: And if we knew that there were some major transport
Speaker 1: planes bringing five thousand people into.
Speaker 2: That fight, why did we allow it?
Speaker 1: Did it seem like that was maybe an unintentional part
Speaker 1: of this discussion you had with the ADMIN officials.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It certainly surprised me, That's why I put it in.
Speaker 4: And apparently the Cuban government had paid been paid as
Speaker 4: many as twenty five thousand dollars for each head there.
Speaker 4: I think Ukraine, or better said, Russia as also drafted
Speaker 4: or paid mercenaries from North Korea as well. What's sort
Speaker 4: of surprising in this entire matter is just the number
Speaker 4: of reported casualties from Russia that the United States is reporting.
Speaker 4: I think they claim it's upwards a five hundred thousand now,
Speaker 4: which is just an astonishing amount. But as one of
Speaker 4: the officials from the United States have told us, as
Speaker 4: part of this is it's not just Russia, it's also Iran.
Speaker 4: So not only is Cuba part of quote Putin's meat grinder,
Speaker 4: but they're also sort of in the orbit and the
Speaker 4: sway of Iranian forces. And this is as these drones
Speaker 4: that Cuba has that the United States just doesn't want
Speaker 4: to take.
Speaker 1: Your story comes out, it gets international attention, and I
Speaker 1: just wonder if it was presented to you to coincide
Speaker 1: with the expected unsealing of the indictment of Rabuel Castro
Speaker 1: this week. Of course, we expect him to that unseiling
Speaker 1: to showcase an indictment for ordering the killing of Ramanald
Speaker 1: Clroscate over the Florida Straits.
Speaker 2: Do you see these things as linked.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard not to see them as linked.
Speaker 4: In addition to that, we have the sanctions that, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're talking about sort of the sexy or interesting stuff
Speaker 4: of drones and the indictment of Raul Castro, but sort
Speaker 4: of the real trouble that Cuba is experiencing from the
Speaker 4: United States is from the sanctions that have been slowly
Speaker 4: imposed and the executive order that Donald Trump issued on
Speaker 4: May first. And I understand he issued on May first
Speaker 4: for a reason because Marco Rubio, the child of the
Speaker 4: Miami Cuban ex exile community, made sure that May Day,
Speaker 4: the Communist Day, was interrupted by this sort of anti
Speaker 4: Marxist messaging and executive order, and that has just made
Speaker 4: it very difficult for foreign companies to do business in Cuba.
Speaker 4: You're seeing more and more of them leave, You're probably
Speaker 4: going to see more and more of them slapped with
Speaker 4: sanctions going forward, and you're just going to see more
Speaker 4: and more of this pressure piled on.
Speaker 1: Final question for you, you are very much a creature
Speaker 1: of South Florida.
Speaker 2: You have a home in the Keys.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: reached out to you following this big scoop that you published.
Speaker 1: How are people in the Keys and South Florida reacting
Speaker 1: to thinking about Cuba as a potential threat in a
Speaker 1: way we haven't in decades.
Speaker 4: Well, you hit the nail on the head. For a
Speaker 4: long time, Key West has sort of been different from Miami,
Speaker 4: and that Key West has always wanted this reproach mom
Speaker 4: with a Cuba sort of nose strings attached. Hey, let's
Speaker 4: do business, were ninety miles away. Good times here are
Speaker 4: here again, That's what they've always wanted. But yes, I
Speaker 4: did feel few phone calls from friends and people on
Speaker 4: the island, including US one Radio, to make sure that
Speaker 4: they didn't have to duck and cover.
Speaker 2: I told them no.
Speaker 4: As the story had said, the United States doesn't believe
Speaker 4: there's any threat of an imminent attack, but nevertheless, the
Speaker 4: threat is there.
Speaker 1: According to the United States, if the attack is coming
Speaker 1: for Key West, the first reporter who will know will
Speaker 1: be Axios's own Mark Capudo.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much as always for showing us. Thank
Speaker 2: you man and coming out.
Speaker 1: The race for Kentucky's fourth congressional district gets decided in
Speaker 1: an election tomorrow. It has already been a historic contest.
Speaker 1: Never before in American political history has a Republican primary
Speaker 1: election costs so much We already know that more than
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars has been spent in this area. We
Speaker 1: were on the ground in Kentucky and have that exclusive
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Speaker 1: The much watched race for Kentucky's fourth congressional district gets
Speaker 1: decided in an election tomorrow, and it has already been
Speaker 1: a historic contest. Never before in American political history has
Speaker 1: a Republican primary election to the House of Representatives costs
Speaker 1: so much money. We already know of more than twenty
Speaker 1: million dollars that's been spent in this rural, relatively poor
Speaker 1: Kentucky district, and estimates are once all expenditures are reported,
Speaker 1: we can be looking at more than thirty five million
Speaker 1: dollars spent when you combine both sides, regardless of who
Speaker 1: you support in the race. It is just an astonishing figure.
Speaker 1: Thirty five million dollars.
Speaker 2: Could you like buy all of Kentucky for that amount?
Speaker 1: I mean, just to put this into context, when I
Speaker 1: removed Kevin McCarthy as House Speaker, he was big mad
Speaker 1: to say the least, and he was flushed with cash.
Speaker 1: Following his brief stint as Republican leader. He only spent
Speaker 1: about four million dollars in a failed and quixotic attempt
Speaker 1: to defeat me. So one would have to multiply Kevin
Speaker 1: McCarthy's rage spending by a factor of five or six
Speaker 1: times just to reach what we are seeing in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: So the big question why is this happening? The incumbent
Speaker 1: in the races, Congressman Thomas Massey. Massey was first selected
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. His tenure has been defined by a
Speaker 1: very strong libertarian streak, which has put him at odds
Speaker 1: with many of his Republican colleagues and the leader of
Speaker 1: the Republican Party, President Trump. President Trump has campaigned against
Speaker 1: Massey in this very district and has endorsed his opponent,
Speaker 1: Ed Galleran. Massey hasn't just gotten on the wrong side
Speaker 1: of Trump, He's also angered a pack. It is a
Speaker 1: very strong lobby of Americans whose organizing principle is not
Speaker 1: the support of America, but Israel. Trump has painted Massy
Speaker 1: with some very blistering rhetoric and it has been a
Speaker 1: pack in their aligned groups who have supplied historic funding
Speaker 1: in the effort to defeat Massy. It's a point that
Speaker 1: Massy made light of at his recent rally that we
Speaker 1: covered in Florence, Kentucky on Saturday.
Speaker 6: You know, just in case I lose, they gave me
Speaker 6: the number to call to concede.
Speaker 7: The area code is tel Aviv.
Speaker 1: Though we traveled to Kentucky to get an inside look
Speaker 1: at this race, who is showing up and who's showing out,
Speaker 1: we also wanted to know how voters in Kentucky were
Speaker 1: reacting to the deluge of advertising that accompanies these type
Speaker 1: of cash dumps in in district advertising over politics, So
Speaker 1: we caught up with Jeremy Todd he's with Independence Kentucky.
Speaker 1: He can't even vote for or against Thomas Massey in
Speaker 1: the Republican primary. Only Republicans will cast meaningful votes in
Speaker 1: that contest. For the sheer amount of spend motivated mister
Speaker 1: Todd to reject what was being pushed by outside forces.
Speaker 8: We love Thomas Massey. He stands for liberty, freedom, and
Speaker 8: we have to fight for him today.
Speaker 3: The age gap.
Speaker 8: Divide has really defined this race. The youth of America
Speaker 8: wants Thomas Massey. It's all been grassroots all across the country.
Speaker 8: Liberty lovers have supported him, and it's been unfortunately local
Speaker 8: Fox News boomers who have been kind of duped by
Speaker 8: the money that's trying to buy this race. I think
Speaker 8: it sends a message that you cannot buy elections in
Speaker 8: this country.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't buy.
Speaker 8: All of them, at least right there is still a
Speaker 8: place for people who love freedom and they don't do
Speaker 8: what Mike Johnson tells him to do. They don't have
Speaker 8: to do what the president tells him to do. They
Speaker 8: stand for their punt.
Speaker 1: Massy's opponent in this race is not new to politics,
Speaker 1: enter Ed Galleran. He ran unsuccessfully for the state Senate
Speaker 1: last election cycle. But now he has the most powerful
Speaker 1: and potent thing imaginable in a twenty twenty six Republican primary,
Speaker 1: the endorsement of the most popular Republican on the planet,
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, and he's running.
Speaker 2: Neck and neck with a fifteen year incumbent. That alone
Speaker 2: is really newsworthy.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, in this election cycle, the only Republican
Speaker 1: congressman who lost a primary was Tony Gonzalez, his legislative
Speaker 1: aid turned paramore tragically killed herself by lighting herself on fire.
Speaker 1: We could obviously say those are unique circumstances, but no
Speaker 1: other Republican is lost in a primary other than Gonzales.
Speaker 1: And here Massey is truly wired wire in the contest. Now,
Speaker 1: we wanted to learn more about Ed Galleran's campaign. Our
Speaker 1: network reached out to his team to request an interview.
Speaker 1: We did not hear back. So then we saw that
Speaker 1: Ed Galleran was hosting a rally and we planned to
Speaker 1: attend that rally. It was abruptly canceled the day it
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen. Gallerin had hosted similar gatherings with
Speaker 1: Kentucky voters.
Speaker 2: Here's how that went.
Speaker 9: So you might guess I'm not sud urge about nothing,
Speaker 9: you know in terms of that.
Speaker 10: But you haven't abated them.
Speaker 7: I'm debating you might now you know you're not.
Speaker 3: You're not debating them. You're You're giving a bunch of platitudes.
Speaker 3: You're not explaining anything.
Speaker 2: You've not gone Toed Tod with the Congressman. You're not
Speaker 2: explaining your difference.
Speaker 3: Is you're not doing anything.
Speaker 2: You're You're just you're just you're like, you're.
Speaker 3: Not explaining any differences. I just laid it all out
Speaker 3: of young man.
Speaker 2: It made no sense.
Speaker 1: Ed Galleran did appear on the Dan Bongino Show. Here's
Speaker 1: his pitch in the final moments of this campaign to voters.
Speaker 9: Now served its seven sealed teams and the units include
Speaker 9: twice the Siltem six for career spanning three decades. So
Speaker 9: President asked me to meet with him on seventeen October
Speaker 9: and he basically made a challenge to me to serve
Speaker 9: my nation again. Lifetime member of the NRA Rifle and
Speaker 9: Pistol Instructor that I'm a fifth generation farmer. We've been
Speaker 9: farming in Kentucky for over one hundred years.
Speaker 3: Where do you stand on this? What frame the anchor
Speaker 3: baby problem.
Speaker 9: We have to be very wary in this nation of
Speaker 9: the intentions of our adversaries. It's a disruption operation to
Speaker 9: bring folks.
Speaker 11: In illegally and then to grow that population to diffuse
Speaker 11: our nation and basically undermine it. Ayatola was a suicide
Speaker 11: bomber looking for a new full stop leminate that threat,
Speaker 11: and that allows us to shift and continue to focus
Speaker 11: on China, Russia and North Korea and defeat them by deterrence.
Speaker 1: Now, the operative question for many voters in Kentucky is
Speaker 1: whether they can be for both President Trump and Thomas Massey.
Speaker 1: President Trump's wildly popular in Kentucky. He won the state
Speaker 1: by more than thirty points. President Trump's pro energy development
Speaker 1: policies have also been very good for Cold Country, and
Speaker 1: the voters there love him.
Speaker 2: I spoke to many of them.
Speaker 1: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul has served the Commonwealth since twenty ten.
Speaker 1: He's at his own grapples with President Trump, but his
Speaker 1: message on the campaign trail, very interestingly is that you
Speaker 1: can love both Massey and Trump.
Speaker 12: There is no man and no woman in the House
Speaker 12: of Representatives that is more faithful to the Constitution than
Speaker 12: your Congressman. It is with pride and it is with
Speaker 12: pleasure that I am here today to endorse Thomas Massey's
Speaker 12: fornominal But there is a twenty five million dollar question.
Speaker 12: That's how much money that's being spent in this primary,
Speaker 12: more money than has ever been spent in any Republican
Speaker 12: congressional primary.
Speaker 13: Ever in the history of the United States.
Speaker 14: Twenty five million. But here's the twenty five million dollar question.
Speaker 14: Can you like Donald Trump and and Thomas Massey? I
Speaker 14: say absolutely yes. The swamp wins, and Thomas Massey has
Speaker 14: purged from the party if his voice is erased, what
Speaker 14: happens next?
Speaker 7: I'll tell you my response. I will tell you I will.
Speaker 14: Say, and what you should say and what you should
Speaker 14: do in the next few weeks is tell the big
Speaker 14: government goons you're never giving them an inch, and tell them,
Speaker 14: you know what, never ever are.
Speaker 13: We going to allow evil to win?
Speaker 2: And stay right here.
Speaker 1: Coming up is my interview with Congressman Thomas Massey from
Speaker 1: the campaign trail in Kentucky. Plus Congresswoman Lauren Bobert was
Speaker 1: on the trail with Massey. We've got her closing message
Speaker 1: to Kentucky voters, along with congress Women Victoria Sparts and
Speaker 1: Representative Warren Davidson. Also Ace Polster Richard Barris will join
Speaker 1: us to break down the late numbers.
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. The battle for the Bluegrass State is on.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey is in the fight for his political life.
Speaker 1: He's aggressively campaigning in Kentucky, where we caught up with
Speaker 1: him for an interview just before his rally in the
Speaker 1: rural community of Florence.
Speaker 2: Take a listen, tell us what how the campaign's been
Speaker 2: so far.
Speaker 6: It's been a slug fast. I'm told this is the
Speaker 6: most expensive congressional primary in the history of this contract.
Speaker 6: We've got three billionaires who are fueling the fire on
Speaker 6: the other side, and on my side, I've got fifty
Speaker 6: thousand grassroots does.
Speaker 1: If you win this election, what message do you think
Speaker 1: it sends to the country?
Speaker 6: If when I win this election, right when it tells
Speaker 6: him that this state is not for sale. You can't
Speaker 6: come in with foreign special interest money and buy a
Speaker 6: seat in Congress here in Kentucky. Go to some other
Speaker 6: state and try it.
Speaker 1: We're not falling for If you're talking to an undecided
Speaker 1: voter who's seen all the ads, what's your closing message
Speaker 1: in these final moments.
Speaker 6: My closing message is you can like Trump and you
Speaker 6: can like Thomas at the same time. Because most of
Speaker 6: my constituents like Trump and they're voting for me. But
Speaker 6: I'm running against an AI candidate who's not without the eye.
Speaker 2: He won't show up to debate. He's skipped eight debates
Speaker 2: and forums.
Speaker 6: He uses AI to do his posts, he uses AI
Speaker 6: to do he's commercials. He thinks when he shakes his
Speaker 6: fist at the TV at me, he's debating me. And
Speaker 6: here's what he You know, I've run against people they
Speaker 6: make promises and then you've seen these people in Congress.
Speaker 6: They make all these promises while they're running. They get
Speaker 6: to DC and they just go along to get along.
Speaker 2: This guy I'm running against promises to go along to
Speaker 2: get along. I've never seen this strategy.
Speaker 1: Every observer says age is the number one factor and
Speaker 1: whether someone will vote for Thomas Massey. Why do you
Speaker 1: think that is And what's your hope for young people
Speaker 1: to get out and vote on Tuesday?
Speaker 6: Well, age, you know, regardless of what pole you're looking at,
Speaker 6: and some of them are crazy polls, but the one
Speaker 6: thing we all see in common is there is.
Speaker 2: A large disparity in age.
Speaker 6: I'm winning everybody under fifty five that demographic probably by
Speaker 6: thirty points, and if you go over sixty five, he's
Speaker 6: winning that demographic. So if you guess the average age
Speaker 6: of the voter wrong on election day, your poll's going
Speaker 6: to be off. We've got influencers from all over the
Speaker 6: country here. We're pushing to get out the young vote
Speaker 6: and just like five percent more, you know, extra turnout
Speaker 6: of people under the age of fifty five, which I
Speaker 6: think is going to happen, will blow this race.
Speaker 2: Out for us. You you often.
Speaker 6: They're often a rally wasn't supposed to start.
Speaker 2: We'll go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know, you often are the loan vote on major
Speaker 1: issues that are before the country. But we are seeing
Speaker 1: this ground swell of young people for you here in
Speaker 1: the district and around America. What beyond just this race,
Speaker 1: what do you think that says about the future of
Speaker 1: the Republican Party and the ideology and the and the
Speaker 1: positions that will be reflected by the future of the vote.
Speaker 6: Well, the reason we've got the young voters is they're
Speaker 6: better informed. They're watching podcasts, they're doing their own research,
Speaker 6: they're on the internet. They know when something's AI and
Speaker 6: when something's real. Okay, so they're better informed. I've got
Speaker 6: great hope for this country because we've got the young vote,
Speaker 6: and those are the future of the party. Matt, you've
Speaker 6: heard the question, it's gonna be Marco Rubio, Is it.
Speaker 2: Gonna be jd Vance?
Speaker 3: Who is the future?
Speaker 6: What's the future of the Republican Party. The future of
Speaker 6: the party is the people who are supporting me. The
Speaker 6: problem is that I vote against the party in Washington
Speaker 6: DC ten percent of the time. The problem is the
Speaker 6: Republican Party in Washington, d C. Is voting against the
Speaker 6: American Republic ten percent of the time.
Speaker 2: Yes, suh.
Speaker 1: This race and the way you've funded it, raising small
Speaker 1: dollars from people all over the country, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like any House congressional.
Speaker 2: Race ever in history.
Speaker 1: So final question for you at the conclusion of this race,
Speaker 1: are you off to Iowa to run for president?
Speaker 3: No, I'm here.
Speaker 6: I will be here in Kentucky and DC doing my
Speaker 6: job as a US representative, because if I'm not in
Speaker 6: the House of Representatives, there is a voice that is
Speaker 6: completely gone. The Epstein files would not have been released
Speaker 6: if I weren't in Congress and the globalist.
Speaker 2: No, Thomas Massey, that's so much. Thank you. I love
Speaker 2: being on the campaign trail now.
Speaker 1: During this very rally, President Trump took to social media
Speaker 1: to blast Massey, but he did not just attack him.
Speaker 1: He also went after Republican Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Bobert for
Speaker 1: campaigning alongside Massey. She took it in stride and says
Speaker 1: she still supports both Trump and Massey, and she brought
Speaker 1: a lot of energy to the campaign trail.
Speaker 15: Great to be here where you can feel the freedom,
Speaker 15: you can feel liberty, and I am so excited that
Speaker 15: you are here. To show up strong for my friend
Speaker 15: Thomas Massey. This race will determine the future of all
Speaker 15: other races. You all understand the millions of dollars that
Speaker 15: have been poured in by billionaires.
Speaker 7: Even a billionaire that's in the Epstein files.
Speaker 15: But on Tuesday you have got to send a clear
Speaker 15: message that Kentucky is not for sale. Right now, you
Speaker 15: have a congressman who does exactly what he promises you
Speaker 15: he will do.
Speaker 7: Anyone can go to Washington, DC and read a room.
Speaker 15: Your congressman reads the Constitution, He reads.
Speaker 7: The day bills.
Speaker 15: This is a man who is not afraid to be
Speaker 15: the only one to take a stand. He is not
Speaker 15: a that's right to go back in the rooms and
Speaker 15: actually negotiate good things to be in legislation, even when
Speaker 15: he doesn't vote for the final product on the floor,
Speaker 15: I guarantee you he was part of the negotiation to
Speaker 15: at least make the bill a little bit better for you.
Speaker 15: I support our president and I support Thomas Massey.
Speaker 7: I think the President will still support me after this weekend.
Speaker 7: We'll see. But I want to thank you all so much.
Speaker 15: Thank you for getting out the vote Kentucky and con
Speaker 15: for sale.
Speaker 7: Vote for Thomas Massey.
Speaker 1: Though President Trump attacks Congressman Bobert for her appearance in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: he gave no mention of the other two members of
Speaker 1: Congress who joined the event. Here's Ohio Congressman Warren Davidson.
Speaker 16: On so many issues, Thomas serves as a beacon. He's
Speaker 16: out there pointing the way. And I will tell you,
Speaker 16: on issue after issue, people might see that Thomas votes
Speaker 16: know and a lot of my colleagues have already come
Speaker 16: up here and talked about how he's collaborative and he
Speaker 16: works behind the scenes. Now he's fixed. He doesn't on moving.
Speaker 16: When he's taken the position, people know where he stands.
Speaker 16: He wants a smaller government. I want a smaller map.
Speaker 17: You would think that when you have a time where
Speaker 17: you have a Republican majority in the House, a Republican
Speaker 17: majority in the Senate, and a president who all say
Speaker 17: they want a smaller, more accountable government, that at.
Speaker 16: Least occasionally you would get a smaller, more accountable government.
Speaker 16: But as you can see from the debt badge, it
Speaker 16: only grows, right, it only grows. And I will say
Speaker 16: Thomas in those times has the courage to hold and
Speaker 16: if he wasn't there, we wouldn't we would turn left
Speaker 16: even harder day. Privacies under attack, I would say the
Speaker 16: Third Amendments under attack. You're giving quarter to the government
Speaker 16: and everything from your cars, to your phones, to your homes,
Speaker 16: everything the government, your bank accounts, everything the government wants
Speaker 16: to look at it. But you know one person for
Speaker 16: sure is going to be on the right side of
Speaker 16: every one of those constitutional issues. Thomas Massey wants to
Speaker 16: restore our government small enough to fit in the constitution.
Speaker 2: You need.
Speaker 16: Ni a party that delivers on the things we say
Speaker 16: we stand for, or we're going to be a party
Speaker 16: that's governed by which way the wind's blowing. And look,
Speaker 16: populism's great. We want our ideas to be popular, we
Speaker 16: want them to be principal. I know Thomas Massey is
Speaker 16: a principled man, and I am so glad to have
Speaker 16: him as a friend and a colleague. Please send Thomas
Speaker 16: Massey back to Congress and make sure your friends do too.
Speaker 1: That was Ohio Republican Congressman Warren Davidson.
Speaker 2: But don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from the campaign trail
Speaker 1: in Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: We're continuing our coverage of the campaign for Kentucky's fourth
Speaker 1: congressional district, the most expensive Republican primary for congress in history.
Speaker 1: We want to get right to the polling and the
Speaker 1: data to assess where this race stands. Joining us now
Speaker 1: the man the myth of the legend, the director of
Speaker 1: big data poll and host of Inside the Numbers with
Speaker 1: the people's pundit, the people's punnet, himself, Richard Barris Rich.
Speaker 1: This big election is tomorrow in Kentucky. Bring us inside
Speaker 1: the numbers in the fourth Congressional District.
Speaker 10: No thanks for having me, As always, Matt, this has
Speaker 10: been probably the most interesting race to poll since the
Speaker 10: twenty four election and the district itself. As you know,
Speaker 10: obviously it's hard to poll districts because a couple hundred
Speaker 10: votes here are there sways the margin quite a bit.
Speaker 2: But this this.
Speaker 10: District is very contrarian. It's libertarian leaning, so it fits
Speaker 10: Thomas Massey well. That being said, who votes in primaries
Speaker 10: older voters and older voters are certainly the ones that
Speaker 10: are most loyal to Donald Trump. So this race has
Speaker 10: been dead even basically for a few days. This is
Speaker 10: what people need to know. Massy has a broader basis support,
Speaker 10: but they have to vote. If they don't, then the
Speaker 10: more reliable older electorate is ed Golran's electorate and they'll
Speaker 10: carry it for him. So it really is like one
Speaker 10: of these things, Matt, where you know, you want to
Speaker 10: give some of those younger voters, you know, the you
Speaker 10: want to give them the benefit of the doubt that
Speaker 10: they're going to come.
Speaker 2: Out and vote.
Speaker 10: But you do know how strong President Trump is when
Speaker 10: he motivates older voters to get out. So it really
Speaker 10: is a coin toss at this point.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a race where you know, you've
Speaker 1: seen this amount of money spent and when you see
Speaker 1: like thirty five million dollars potentially in a race.
Speaker 2: After what point does that.
Speaker 1: Start to become diminishing returns or does that start to
Speaker 1: turn off voters? Or is the old adage correct that
Speaker 1: in any political contest you want all the money and
Speaker 1: all the votes and anything less than full throttle is suboptimal.
Speaker 10: Look, you know you want money. I mean, there's no doubt.
Speaker 10: But we did speak to a lot of people live
Speaker 10: in this entire time that we've been polling this race,
Speaker 10: and it is a frequent thing that we hear that
Speaker 10: the people of the fourth are not used to this
Speaker 10: kind of money and this kind of attention, and a
Speaker 10: lot of them who I think could have been persuaded
Speaker 10: to move on from Congressman Massey for different reasons. I
Speaker 10: think the race is even this close still despite that
Speaker 10: money because some of these people just they didn't like
Speaker 10: this approach, and I think the outside money offended them.
Speaker 10: I don't think this is what they're saying. They're very
Speaker 10: skeptical of that. So if Thomas Massey survives, it's because
Speaker 10: the gall Ring campaign chose to go totally negative, chose
Speaker 10: to not really define who he was but instead wrote
Speaker 10: out I mean, let's be honest, We're being perfectly honest.
Speaker 10: Ed Golran is running a Joe Biden campaign. He's hiding mostly,
Speaker 10: and he came out yes over the weekend to do
Speaker 10: some stuff, or at least try to do some stuff,
Speaker 10: and he appear with Pete Haik said today, But the
Speaker 10: voters of the district really didn't know what he stood
Speaker 10: for other than I'm endorsed by Donald Trump. And that
Speaker 10: works with the sixty two in older crowd who vote
Speaker 10: in primaries. So understandable why the President's advisors and team,
Speaker 10: you know, this team went with this strategy. I'm just
Speaker 10: saying that if it falls shy, it'll be because of that. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, there's something.
Speaker 1: I think that every election is kind of about one
Speaker 1: big question, And I ask you this one because I
Speaker 1: really don't know the answer to it. But is this
Speaker 1: election a referendum on Donald Trump? Or is it a
Speaker 1: referendum on Thomas Massey?
Speaker 10: You know, that's a We've been trying to answer this
Speaker 10: question for the better part of two weeks. Honestly, the
Speaker 10: district isn't like other Republican districts, so I would really
Speaker 10: caution people to be careful what they read into this.
Speaker 10: It is a contrarian district. It is one that leans
Speaker 10: more libertarian than it does like some of the districts
Speaker 10: you and I are more familiar with. In Florida. Right,
Speaker 10: Trump is king there and that's it. This is not
Speaker 10: the case in Kentucky. For however, I do think that
Speaker 10: there is one line that the Galleryan campaign has used
Speaker 10: that would seem to indicate at least part of this
Speaker 10: is a referendum on Thomas Massey, and that's the line
Speaker 10: that there's a difference between being principled and being obstructionist.
Speaker 10: We do hear that quite a bit, and some people
Speaker 10: you have I think they're basically those people who are
Speaker 10: wondering that are basically split. One side says I may
Speaker 10: not like it, and I'm not always in agreement with him,
Speaker 10: but at least I know who Thomas Massey is, and
Speaker 10: at least I know those are his votes. Ed is
Speaker 10: getting bankrolled by three billionaires and you know, a foreign
Speaker 10: pack and I don't like it. But the other half
Speaker 10: is saying, maybe it is time because it could have
Speaker 10: cost us the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2: So that there is that is a.
Speaker 10: Debate going on, I think the answer is probably gonna
Speaker 10: end up both Matt.
Speaker 1: Welleren, the election is a referendum on Donald Trump. Thomas
Speaker 1: Massey is going to lose the election because Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is the most potent force in politics in.
Speaker 2: Every congressional district.
Speaker 1: And so if I were Massey, I would not want
Speaker 1: the election to be a referendum on Trump, because Trump
Speaker 1: is going to end up on the stronger part of
Speaker 1: that question. Massey asked to if he has a chance
Speaker 1: to win the election, he has to make it a
Speaker 1: referendum on himself. Ed Galleran seems to be similarly willing
Speaker 1: to make the election a referendum on Thomas Massey. Now, Richard,
Speaker 1: I have never I've studied politics a long time, I
Speaker 1: have never seen a race where age was the most
Speaker 1: dispositive factor in how a vote would be cast.
Speaker 2: So talk to us about why age, above.
Speaker 1: Almost all else, determines whether or not a voter is
Speaker 1: likely to vote for Ed Gallerin or Thomas Massey.
Speaker 10: This and I have gone back into our data sets
Speaker 10: to look at all of the races that we have
Speaker 10: pulled over the years, even general elections, and it's tough
Speaker 10: to find one that's comparable to this. Every generation below boomers,
Speaker 10: So the boomer and silent gen Although Kentucky four doesn't
Speaker 10: have many silent generations left, it doesn't have much registration
Speaker 10: growth with the sixty two and above at all, Matt,
Speaker 10: And that's what really Massy's clinging to right now. They
Speaker 10: support Gallrin anywhere between twenty five and thirty five points.
Speaker 2: Sixty two and above.
Speaker 10: That's been his performance with them, and they are the
Speaker 10: most loyal vote to Donald Trump. And good for Gallan
Speaker 10: is that they vote in primaries. Massey wins everyone else,
Speaker 10: and Folks, I'm not just talking about small little margins.
Speaker 10: He clabbers at Gallroan with millennials three to one. He
Speaker 10: clabers him with gen Z even with gen X. Now
Speaker 10: Massey has pulled into a lead. His problem is that
Speaker 10: gen X is and isn't voting at high as high
Speaker 10: rates as boomers. So this is why this thing is
Speaker 10: so close. I'm getting concerned, Matt, with this entire generational
Speaker 10: question with the party.
Speaker 2: Honestly wrote a book about it.
Speaker 10: Just recently, Republicans are seeming to govern for like the
Speaker 10: govern for the Fox Boomer Cohn, which is a minority
Speaker 10: of the Boomer generation, and they're leaving out or just
Speaker 10: ignoring the fact that very soon, within less than.
Speaker 2: A decade, the electorate will rapidly.
Speaker 10: Change and Thomas Massey's coalition will basically be the only
Speaker 10: way to win elections. So this is something that has
Speaker 10: been weighing on me throughout this whole thing. The Republican Party,
Speaker 10: It's an important race. The Republican Party has got to
Speaker 10: decide whether they care to cater to these voters at all,
Speaker 10: because if they don't, they're gonna find winning general elections
Speaker 10: in the future very difficult. Millennials will be the biggest
Speaker 10: block sooner than many people realize. Everyone's acting and pretending
Speaker 10: as if the Fox boomer Cohn is gonna be it. It's not.
Speaker 10: It'll be over soon and just the reality we all
Speaker 10: have to face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously Fox News is television for very low IQ people,
Speaker 1: and it should be noted that President Trump is currently
Speaker 1: suing the parent company to Fox News for lying about him.
Speaker 1: But we do see the electorate expanding here. I've looked
Speaker 1: at the data from some of the early voting days.
Speaker 1: This is not a low turnout race. It could be
Speaker 1: a laro a high turnout race. I know Chris los Avita, well,
Speaker 1: he's the very competent consultant for Ed Galleran Chris los
Speaker 1: Avita likes expanding the electorate. He likes going to those
Speaker 1: low propensities, educating them, turning them out. He feels like
Speaker 1: that's money in the bank. Which side has an advantage
Speaker 1: if we start to see numbers that continue to show
Speaker 1: high turnout.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so typically it would be you would the incumbent
Speaker 10: would want lower turnout because the incumbent will benefit from
Speaker 10: incumbency like that obviously, but in this case, there really
Speaker 10: are two scenarios with high turnout benefiting both candidates. One
Speaker 10: is what los Avita wants, and there is evidence, and
Speaker 10: you know we've been talking about this, there's evidence in
Speaker 10: the last few nights that what he's doing is working.
Speaker 10: So you know, this targeting of lower propens the older voters,
Speaker 10: particularly sixteen above, sixty two and above, they have become
Speaker 10: more of the electorate over the last two days. We
Speaker 10: can see it clear as day in the collection. And
Speaker 10: then the other one that benefits Massy is just where
Speaker 10: the electorate overall is increased. Because sixty five and above
Speaker 10: is only about twenty five percent of Kentucky four, Massy
Speaker 10: needs these young voters to come out, so he needs
Speaker 10: high turnout, but he can't let he can't let Galren's
Speaker 10: team do it on their own terms because that'll just
Speaker 10: lead to a larger margin for Galleran. Just to give
Speaker 10: people an idea, it's dead even among all likely voters
Speaker 10: in the latest that I'm about to put up right now.
Speaker 10: But if you look at most certain to vote and
Speaker 10: people who already voted, Galryn has about a four point lead.
Speaker 10: So Massy needs them to come out or he's gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, turning out gen Z millennial voters on election day
Speaker 1: is hard. That's why in so much of what we
Speaker 1: did in President Trump's campaign because Psident Trump dominated with
Speaker 1: voters under the age of thirty, so everything was about
Speaker 1: to get them to vote early, get them to return ballots.
Speaker 1: If you're four points back at this stage of the
Speaker 1: game with folks who've already voted, that's typically not a
Speaker 1: good sign. But we will be watching it closely while
Speaker 1: I have you, Richard, the midterms coming up. We've got
Speaker 1: rising prices continuing to impact how voters are seeing things now.
Speaker 2: But if this.
Speaker 1: War resolves, if all of the crud goes into processing
Speaker 1: and we see supply side energy shock with all the
Speaker 1: victories Republicans are getting in redistricting. Is it too crazy
Speaker 1: to think Mike Johnson could hold on to the speaker's gable.
Speaker 10: Listen, I'm not there yet, and I'll tell you why
Speaker 10: i am not there. I want them. I wanted them
Speaker 10: to redistrict to the point where if they lost by
Speaker 10: a margin we saw in the New York Times poll
Speaker 10: today which mirrors big out a pole, we have them
Speaker 10: down by eleven two, it would still be okay, or
Speaker 10: it would still give them a fighting chance. The problem
Speaker 10: with this is even if we get to the point
Speaker 10: where they only need to win three toss ups, their
Speaker 10: toss ups in a neutral environment, it's the nation mood
Speaker 10: stays negative for Republicans. Republicans are going to struggle, and
Speaker 10: it will not just be whether they got to hold
Speaker 10: those battleground districts, so it'll be can they actually keep
Speaker 10: some of the Trump plus tens in down? Because Trump
Speaker 10: outperformed congressional Republicans all over the math, and we tend
Speaker 10: to look at his vote chair and compare it to Republicans,
Speaker 10: and Republicans don't understand that without them on the ballot,
Speaker 10: it's a little hard to perform like that right, So
Speaker 10: you know, I'm just not there yet, although I'm the
Speaker 10: entire point about you know, my arguments in the last
Speaker 10: six months have been because I refuse to concede that
Speaker 10: they have to lose the House, and that's completely unnecessary.
Speaker 10: This like pendulum swing we talk about in the modern era,
Speaker 10: is a modern phenomenon. It started in ninety four with
Speaker 10: the Republican Revolution. Before that, Congress could be held by
Speaker 10: the same party for decade, two decades, all right, I
Speaker 10: mean it was common, So I never I never subscribed
Speaker 10: to the idea mat of just expecting you're going to
Speaker 10: lose because you're the first term incumbent party.
Speaker 2: But it's about perception.
Speaker 10: Voters have to feel like Republican and the presidents specifically
Speaker 10: are much much more focused on their problems at home
Speaker 10: and not everything else that really they views distractions abroad wise.
Speaker 1: Words from the People's Pundit Richard Barris, head of Big
Speaker 1: Data Pull, Thanks as always for coming on and breaking.
Speaker 3: It down anytime.
Speaker 1: Matt, all the best, and coming up, we're back to
Speaker 1: the campaign trail in Kentucky with Indiana Congresswoman Victoria's Sparts.
Speaker 1: She took the stage and had a very rousing message
Speaker 1: for those in Florence.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Indiana.
Speaker 1: Congresswoman Victoria Sparts is a deeply independent minded lawmaker. She
Speaker 1: was born in Ukraine and has spent a lot of
Speaker 1: her time in Congress as a searing critic of Vladimir Zelenski.
Speaker 1: On the Judiciary Committee, She's battled against abuses in America's
Speaker 1: spying program. That's where she's worked most closely with Thomas Massey,
Speaker 1: and she is one of the most fiscally conservative people
Speaker 1: in all of Washington. Following her stint as an auditor
Speaker 1: for one of America's largest financial firms. This week, she
Speaker 1: was on fire and on the campaign trail for Kentucky's
Speaker 1: embattled congressman.
Speaker 2: Take a listen, I'll tell you.
Speaker 18: I'll tell you why this Yankee bro from Noble taking
Speaker 18: the great State of Indiana to support my guy friend.
Speaker 13: And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 18: You know, obviously you can tell that I still have
Speaker 18: some Yankee absent. Obviously you know you can say that
Speaker 18: I wasn't born in my great state of Indiana.
Speaker 13: And I'll tell you why I was born. Was born
Speaker 13: in the Soviet Union, now the country in Ukraine.
Speaker 18: And you see what's happening in the contrast like that,
Speaker 18: I was born under communists and dictatorship walk since and
Speaker 18: I've done, I've done. I've seen how many people we'll destroy,
Speaker 18: how many lives we've destroyed. And as an American twenty
Speaker 18: six years ago, crossing the ocean.
Speaker 15: These idealistic ideas.
Speaker 18: Of freedom, a free republic was one suitcase as many
Speaker 18: Americans came here two hundred and fifteen years ago for
Speaker 18: the battles.
Speaker 7: I came from a country.
Speaker 18: Of opportunities and dream and I thought, this is America,
Speaker 18: the kind of freedom. And when I saw what's happening
Speaker 18: in the country, when I saw what's happening.
Speaker 13: With our young people.
Speaker 18: When I've seen how many great Americans forwarded the trenches
Speaker 18: and sacrifices, we are.
Speaker 13: Destroying our freedoms.
Speaker 18: I became crazy enough to become a politician, and it
Speaker 18: was a cheap body organized and twenty years ago my
Speaker 18: kids went strollest.
Speaker 13: Now they're in college. You know, a sud I'm like, okay.
Speaker 7: I was like, oh I am ge. I thought it
Speaker 7: was a kind of freedom.
Speaker 18: This is done and like Russian style politics, Marvel, I'm a.
Speaker 13: Woof this is crazy.
Speaker 18: I could not as an American who loved this country.
Speaker 18: There's so many Americans who came here because.
Speaker 19: They understood we don't have kings and queens, we don't
Speaker 19: have someone on top's gonna tell us what to do,
Speaker 19: and they sacrifice their lives that we keep this republic.
Speaker 18: This is an anniversity two hot and fifties anniversary, and
Speaker 18: I think this battles for a reason. God always has
Speaker 18: a plan. I truly believe if God wouldn't have a plan,
Speaker 18: I would not be aving Congress.
Speaker 1: But I have me.
Speaker 7: Where's my Yankee accent?
Speaker 18: Body?
Speaker 13: Stood? Im ta five gone? The afriaking Marxist. I'm far
Speaker 13: the people. I want reconnible. Okay, this is not a
Speaker 13: party that used to be.
Speaker 7: They're crazy, But.
Speaker 20: My party, if we are silent and not willing to
Speaker 20: stand up, we allow them to succeed.
Speaker 7: We allow them, We allow them.
Speaker 13: To take over the country.
Speaker 7: So I did responsibility for my party.
Speaker 13: And I take a come after my leadership of my
Speaker 13: party because.
Speaker 20: I feel if you will to lead the party, you
Speaker 20: have to stand up for the people, people that promise
Speaker 20: to keep your promises, and like to have people they're
Speaker 20: going to rub a stamp, They'll like to have people
Speaker 20: that are going to do exactly what money machine wants.
Speaker 13: They don't want free in love with people.
Speaker 18: This is the Kentuck He's gonna have true representitive that
Speaker 18: fights for you, that knows that if you if farmers
Speaker 18: don't get on the field, the farmists don't have.
Speaker 7: An ability to save family farms.
Speaker 18: We are going to have oligopolists and Chinese and Brazilian
Speaker 18: cartels destroy our agriculture like they did your manufacturing and lighting.
Speaker 18: And now we have all this new controlling over state.
Speaker 18: He's willing to go the strengers and a lot of time,
Speaker 18: no matter how hard I always seen Thomas, he goes
Speaker 18: to the strenches and never afraid to do it.
Speaker 13: He never afraid to say, you know, guys, this is wrong.
Speaker 13: That's not what people elected us to do.
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