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<v Speaker 1>The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>Grow not what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you talk about extreme?

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<v Speaker 2>What is happening and what is up? Hold out your

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<v Speaker 1>Up torches high, you know, look at it from a

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guys, what is happening and what is up? Hold

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<v Speaker 2>out your glass because we are about to feel it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Premedious Lands podcast to play with. The

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<v Speaker 2>the whalett, let's get to the fun stuff. We're here

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<v Speaker 2>for the fun stuff. We're here for the conversations. We're

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<v Speaker 2>here for the big brand guys. And I got a

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<v Speaker 2>big brain guy for you, and hopefully he can get

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<v Speaker 2>it down to the trailer park level. That way I

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<v Speaker 2>can understand it too. But I like to welcome the

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<v Speaker 2>show for the first time, hopefully the first of many times,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor William West. Doctor William, thank you for coming on today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me long. I go by Bill

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<v Speaker 3>most commonly, and I will tell your audience I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>cancer specialist. I'm a physician, and I'm delighted to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to share you some insight that I have with

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<v Speaker 3>regard to the science of creation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's awesome. Well, for those that are not familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with you, could you just give us a little background,

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<v Speaker 2>like what was your specialty, where you went to school,

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<v Speaker 2>how you kind of got into this space, and introduce

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<v Speaker 2>your book.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Well, my mother died of breast cancer when I

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<v Speaker 3>was twenty two, and that pretty well set my path.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Harvard College and then I graduated from

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<v Speaker 3>the National Cancer Institute, where I did my training in

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<v Speaker 3>cancer medicine. And so I have my whole career has

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<v Speaker 3>been dedicated to trying to understand cancer and see if

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<v Speaker 3>cancer center here in Memphis. It's called the West Cancer Center,

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<v Speaker 3>and we do quite a bit of care for this region,

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<v Speaker 3>for Western the ce Missouri, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>You took.

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<v Speaker 2>A tragic moment in your life and used it to

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<v Speaker 2>someone else in the future to having that same experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been a journey, and I wish the journey

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<v Speaker 3>were over. I wish we were curing everybody with breast cancer,

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<v Speaker 3>but we've made a lot of progress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's just amazing. Well, you, honestly, you've authored a

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<v Speaker 2>book that even the title is very intriguing, called Sacred Science. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>How did this come about and what spurred this motivation

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<v Speaker 3>Well, probably three or four years ago, I read this

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<v Speaker 3>because they believed in science as their best touchstone for reality.

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<v Speaker 3>And that made me curious. I thought, well, what what

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<v Speaker 3>And it was actually a really wonderful journey. I began

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<v Speaker 3>to realize we could understand the creation of this universe.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we've all heard of the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 3>And in that package, I see what I call eight blueprints.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all mathematics. God is an unimaginable mathematician. But mathematic

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<v Speaker 3>them blueprints. And they beg with something we're mostly familiar with,

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<v Speaker 3>just looking at that, I thought, what a wonderful revelation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a revelation from science of the reality of God.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I wanted to write the book and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really cool, because honestly, I'm the type of person.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who those people were. And I said in the

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<v Speaker 2>book too many times, I think, as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>Christian community is concerned, we have this huge hardline in

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<v Speaker 2>the sand. It's either you are on science's side that

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<v Speaker 2>of God that contradicts science, and I'm one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely I think the truth is the science is an

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<v Speaker 3>additional revelation of God. None of it is accidental. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all planned. And you know, I could go through those

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<v Speaker 3>eight blueprints. I'll give you one example. It's something called

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<v Speaker 3>the Higgs field, which I doubt if you or your

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<v Speaker 3>listeners have heard much about, but it fills the entire

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<v Speaker 3>boson because one day Peter Higgs looked at an equation

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<v Speaker 2>That would be it's got something to do with plasma.

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<v Speaker 3>And that just really led to my curiosity in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of so Peter Higgs read this equation and understood what

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<v Speaker 3>in these higher dimensions libraries created by God bok to

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<v Speaker 3>steer the development of the universe and then to steer

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<v Speaker 3>the development of life in the five man species that

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<v Speaker 3>have happened on this earth. So that's my way of

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<v Speaker 3>trying to understand how the universe was created and how

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something I tell people, Like I said in

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<v Speaker 2>that book, I was like, my opinion is science is

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<v Speaker 2>man's way of trying to define and put God in

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<v Speaker 2>a box and try to explain you know God. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the way of whether they realized or not, they're seeking God,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're just trying to explain this infinite being in

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<v Speaker 3>You are correct, But you know, I really wrote the

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a fun experience. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>long it took you to write a book. It took

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<v Speaker 2>That took me to.

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<v Speaker 3>You're smarter than I you and you know, when I

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<v Speaker 3>understanding myself of the creation of the universe, the creation

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<v Speaker 3>of life. We all know we live in this world

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<v Speaker 3>of DNA, and we had no idea where DNA came from,

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<v Speaker 3>love to comment from Bill Gates, who was a founder

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<v Speaker 3>of Microsoft, there's no way we could have developed an

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<v Speaker 3>information containing molecule that could match DNA, and so that

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<v Speaker 3>gives me some idea of I don't think we think

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<v Speaker 3>of DNA as divine, because we all have some much

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<v Speaker 3>of it in our bodies. And incidentally, we reproduce our

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<v Speaker 3>DNA at tree in times a day. That's how That's

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<v Speaker 3>how much energy it takes to to build a messenger

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's something too, like I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Paul in Romans talked about, you know, we are without

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<v Speaker 2>an excuse, you know, even the rocks and creation itself

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<v Speaker 2>screams out and proclaims, you know, the creator. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>something that I, honestly, Bill, I understood when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a little boy. I grew up in church, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life, and I remember a conversation with my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she remembers it and and told me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But one day she said, the taking me to school,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just staring out the window, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you thinking about over there? And I said, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>just how beautiful you know Earth is? Everything is just

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and it's so perfect. How can anybody look around

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<v Speaker 2>and not believe in a creator that you know, built this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think that's good logic and I totally agree

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<v Speaker 3>with it, and that motivated me to write sacred science,

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<v Speaker 3>because we the mistake we might make is look at

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<v Speaker 3>understand it and you realize how those eight blueprints work together,

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<v Speaker 3>you realize what an amazing mind we had behind our creation,

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<v Speaker 3>behind this universe and behind life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and honestly, it's just it's systems within systems within systems.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so perfect. I mean, it's like gears. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if one gear was missing that the watch wouldn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how it is here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like there's I believe in coincidences. I believe in accidents,

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<v Speaker 2>but when it takes you know, trillions and trillions of

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<v Speaker 2>perfect accidents lining up at the perfect time, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to start to give way a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty complimentary to our beliefs and our religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it should excite you, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you go into the heat, that word doesn't mean fear,

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we are all on the hero's journey. And

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<v Speaker 2>writing that my book was a journey in itself. So

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<v Speaker 2>that just good people. I'm not bashing them, but they

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<v Speaker 2>just blind faith. So things like this really equipped body

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<v Speaker 3>I believe there's this feeling somehow, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>realized to the contrary, science is an alternative revelation of God.

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<v Speaker 3>We see him in Scripture, and then we see him

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<v Speaker 3>again in this incredible series of blueprints that built this

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<v Speaker 2>They're hats, beanies, stickers. They're designed by folks who live

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<v Speaker 2>and breede the myth. No gimmicks, just real outdoor gear

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<v Speaker 2>made for fellow believers, wanderers, or anyone who still listens

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<v Speaker 2>when the woods go quiet. M amen, Well Bill, just

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<v Speaker 2>walk us through, man, what are Of course, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>these guys to go and contribute to your work and

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<v Speaker 2>check it out. But uh, walk us through some of

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<v Speaker 2>your revelations, things that you found if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely want to ask you what was your one

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<v Speaker 2>found in this journey of theirs that makes them just

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered if you had one of those and what what?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I would say I had it in the aggregate.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was up looking at these blueprints and

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<v Speaker 3>I realized they came in a certain sequence and we

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<v Speaker 3>very beginning. But to what purpose? It was all light?

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<v Speaker 3>Because light has no mass. Light travels around planet Earth

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<v Speaker 3>independent field that fills the entire universe and brings physicality

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<v Speaker 3>that converts pure energy into the components of the atom.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all atoms, maybe we remember some high school chemistry biology,

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<v Speaker 3>and the components of the atom then are physical and

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<v Speaker 3>five million species. So I think my AHA moment was

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<v Speaker 3>just the fact that we need all eight of these blueprints,

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<v Speaker 3>that without any one of them, none of us would

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<v Speaker 3>be here. Realize this was all planned from the get

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<v Speaker 3>go an unimaginable mathematical mind. And that's why I don't

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<v Speaker 3>try to do the mathematics. You know, I can go

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<v Speaker 3>ten equations, and I said, I can't go there. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just call space space time a blueprint. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we have blueprints that are sure that the atoms that

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<v Speaker 3>make us are stable, that they don't fly apart. They're

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<v Speaker 3>the glue on that actually stabilizes their atoms. We have

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<v Speaker 3>another blueprint that makes the stars shine. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to have deuterium and tritium in the stars to

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<v Speaker 3>has to be an version of neutrons and protons into

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<v Speaker 3>deuterium and tridium, which are special forms of hydrogen that

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<v Speaker 3>will fuse and light up the stars. That's not an accident.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I'm probably going to leave out two or

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<v Speaker 3>three others, but you begin to understand those things, look

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<v Speaker 3>at them and realize that's a succession, the succession of

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<v Speaker 3>superintelligence bringing about these impulses that give us this universe

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<v Speaker 3>that give us the shining stars that being trillion of them,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, and then gives us the life, gives

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<v Speaker 3>us cells, gives us DNA, and this journey of life

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been on a very very long time. And

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<v Speaker 3>we're so blessed that we can have this conversation. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's created in the image of God that we can

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<v Speaker 3>think about these things, that we can contemplate the future,

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<v Speaker 3>that we realize life has meaning and what a gift

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<v Speaker 3>be able to take that journey and realize there's meaning

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I agree with you one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>With the science and the religion. The divider line is

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Bang. You know, I follow some people that

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<v Speaker 2>I genuinely love, one being doctor Kent Hovin. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can talk to somebody, agree with somebody on certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't mean I agree with them on everything. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but he always says the Big Bang is a big

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<v Speaker 2>dud because he's a Young Earth creationist. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the type of person that's like, I believe my Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my Bible, but I don't think my Bible

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<v Speaker 2>is a science book. It's not a historical book of

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<v Speaker 2>what is in its own right. But sure it's truth

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<v Speaker 2>in there, but everything, every truth is not in this

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to always think, well, let there be light

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<v Speaker 2>exactly that sounds like a big bang.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a big bang. And God said there was nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was barren, And God said, let there be light,

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<v Speaker 3>which to me is a great description of the Big Bang,

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<v Speaker 3>which was an incredible burst of light out of something

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<v Speaker 3>smaller than the head of a pen, and that light

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<v Speaker 3>and then went on to form our universe. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it took additional components that I think are God given

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<v Speaker 3>to make this universe physical, so that atoms could form,

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<v Speaker 3>adams could join together, we could have cells that created

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<v Speaker 3>I love them dearly. They wouldn't have this conversation but

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<v Speaker 3>to watch the beautiful life forms that my wife has

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<v Speaker 3>to watch those birds, and just to look out at

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<v Speaker 3>this beautiful earth at this time of the year and

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<v Speaker 3>all the plants. It's just one miracle after another, all

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<v Speaker 3>of which stem from these fundamental blueprints that were released

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment of creation. There's a lot of evidence

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<v Speaker 3>for the Big Bang. By the way, I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 3>still expanding, you know, our universe is still getting bigger, bigger, bigger,

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<v Speaker 3>very compatible with it starting in a single point. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was a Catholic priest he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you roll this movie back you would arrive at

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<v Speaker 3>this primordial egg they called it, and from whence the

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<v Speaker 3>universe erupted. And that's a Catholic priest saying that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So well even Isaiah says that, you know, the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>stretches out the heavens. Yes, I've heard some people say

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<v Speaker 2>that that's alluding to this, you know, expanding universe. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in scripture.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, and we're still expanding. And we've learned how

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<v Speaker 3>to measure the expansion. And you know, we have a

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<v Speaker 3>And the further objects are away from us, the faster

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<v Speaker 3>since that primordial leg gave birth to this universe. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a wonderful story. And if I had anything

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<v Speaker 3>to say to people of faith, God bless you and

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<v Speaker 3>realize that science is just a separate revelation of God.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the biblical revelation, which is wonderful, beautiful, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we have the scientific revelation. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there's any conflict between the two of them. I think

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<v Speaker 3>they are a great picture of the same incredible mind

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<v Speaker 3>that willed us into being.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And honestly, some examples that I'm thinking about that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of correlate to this conversation is like in Leviticus,

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<v Speaker 2>you get in there, a lot of people just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of skim over that because it's a lot of begats

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<v Speaker 2>and laws. Yes, but if you look at those, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them are like scientific in nature. But they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize it at the time. It's like God

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<v Speaker 2>told them you can only wash in moving water, don't

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<v Speaker 2>wash and steal water. Well, if the medieval people would

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<v Speaker 2>have just read their Bible and listened to those laws,

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<v Speaker 2>that the plague would have been avoided. One of their

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<v Speaker 2>sacrificial instructions was to don't quote me on the exact terminology, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>ash from the bull and all these different things to

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at that, and the science eyes, that

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<v Speaker 2>makes the most potent antibacterial soap in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think there was a lot of native intelligence

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<v Speaker 3>going on in ancient Israel, where they understood a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more about disease than you would possibly imagine. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they did have the plagues, and they did have an

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<v Speaker 3>abisidian block the name of the terrible disease leprosy. But

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<v Speaker 3>they came to the two conclusions we would come to today,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is how to wash, how to avoid soil, clothing,

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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. And that was that was That was in

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<v Speaker 2>The divine revelation I believe, yes, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing, too, I would be a miss if we

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<v Speaker 2>people get worked up and get in arguments because they

423
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>are failing to define words. Words have meanings, and you

424
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<v Speaker 2>may define evolution something different than I do. So if

425
00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.319
<v Speaker 2>we're not establishing what we mean by this word, we

426
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<v Speaker 2>could automatically be at odds with each other. Most people,

427
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<v Speaker 2>I think, generally, when they think of evolution, they think

428
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<v Speaker 2>of this, you know, germ becoming a dolphin, and this

429
00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>dolphin becomes a landwalking animal, and it's like and then

430
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 2>some people's like, now, evolution is small little changes, you know,

431
00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>like the dog may be brown, but it gets red

432
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:47.079
<v Speaker 2>hair because of you know or whatever. But those those

433
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<v Speaker 2>I don't define this evolution.

434
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I've got a book on the shelf look at the

435
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<v Speaker 3>other side of this room, called Origin of the Species

436
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.079
<v Speaker 3>by Charles Darwin. And the only problem is it's just

437
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:03.359
<v Speaker 3>awfully wrong. But just missed it entirely. I mean, he was,

438
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and we have to give him his credit. He was

439
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 3>in his day watching fat more fat on a pig

440
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 3>more sheep on a wall, and he was saying those

441
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 3>variations and he tried to extrapolate that to the origin

442
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 3>of the species. Wrong. And I'm going to go back

443
00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 3>now to my Higgs equation, which I believe lives in

444
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 3>a higher dimension, as Plato would tell us, And I

445
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<v Speaker 3>believe there are libraries of mathematics. All great mathematicians believe

446
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 3>there's a library of mathematics in a higher dimension, and they,

447
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.039
<v Speaker 3>through their minds eye, can visit that library and can

448
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.960
<v Speaker 3>retrieve the equations they want, all of them. All of

449
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the really great mathematicians believe in that higher dimension. If

450
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 3>there's a mathematical library, there's a library for genes and proteins.

451
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 3>And our genome is largely unused. You know, genome is

452
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 3>all of our DNA and each well, and we use

453
00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 3>about maybe five percent of it and the rest of

454
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.519
<v Speaker 3>it I view as in the nursery, and I believe

455
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 3>that that nursery has the ability to call down genes

456
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 3>from this library, store them, and at some future point

457
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.720
<v Speaker 3>have an entire gene team. Let's say for ecal location,

458
00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 3>which is what bats do? You know? They fly right

459
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 3>over your head because they could put out sound waves

460
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 3>and receive them back and paint their world with sound. Well,

461
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 3>there was no partially equal licading bat. Just all of

462
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>a sudden there were bats that could equal locate. And

463
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<v Speaker 3>I believe the correct theory of evolution is from a

464
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 3>library in a higher dimension downloaded and stored into a

465
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:43.720
<v Speaker 3>genome of a future animal, and that animal only appeared

466
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:47.039
<v Speaker 3>when it made sense, when it needed to find the dark,

467
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.599
<v Speaker 3>when it needed to whales to go deep in the

468
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 3>dark waters. And I believe that's the way God planned it,

469
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:57.720
<v Speaker 3>is that these genes would download form as teams, and

470
00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 3>when the time came they were needed, they'd be sent

471
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 3>what do I call the factory. Now that's my understanding

472
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 3>of evolution. There's a series of downloads from God's library

473
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.440
<v Speaker 3>that then enabled life to go in new directions, to

474
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:15.119
<v Speaker 3>accept new challenges. And that's that's my theory of evolution,

475
00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 3>which is a journey of life.

476
00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I call it, you know, adaptations for survival. Yes, even

477
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 2>in my research for my book when I was looking

478
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>into the hypertrixosis or what science would define people covered

479
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>in hair, and one that really blew my mind. Well,

480
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:35.079
<v Speaker 2>actually two was I never knew that in the womb

481
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>we are covered in hair from head to toe and

482
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 2>they call it shoot.

483
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I should know, but I'm blocking it.

484
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but at a certain time, the mother's DNA tells

485
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the baby to shed the hair and then it is born.

486
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's like a malfunction in the code that doesn't

487
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Speaker 2>tell that baby to shed the hair, and they come

488
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 2>out covered in hair. But another thing happens is what

489
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about right here, is when a person is

490
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 2>in starvation mode and they go into anorexia and they're

491
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 2>in the elements in cold weather, that body retriggers that

492
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>dormant gin to regrow that fine hair to keep them

493
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>warm and keep them from freezing to death. And you

494
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>see the same thing with pigs. Pigs that go wild,

495
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, they become feral, they grow hair all over

496
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 2>their body, They even grow tusks, So this stuff is

497
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>built in for adaptation and survival exactly. Hell you guys,

498
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>it's no secret that every single day your dollar loses

499
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>its value. If a man invested one thousand dollars in

500
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:51.279
<v Speaker 2>silver in the sixties, today, that same one thousand dollars

501
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 2>would have magically turned into almost thirty thousand dollars. Silver

502
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and gold only continue used to increase in value. If

503
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<v Speaker 2>you have a four to oh one K or money

504
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>setting in savings, that is just a number in a

505
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>computer system that is one MP or hack away from

506
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>being deleted forever. I have recently teamed up with Cornerstone

507
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Assets and Metals and started investing in gold and silver myself,

508
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and I highly encourage the listeners. If you have money

509
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>in savings just sitting there, invest it in hard tangible assets.

510
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 2>The same thing with your four o one k's take

511
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 2>a twenty to thirty percent cut of that four oh

512
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 2>one k that number in a computer system and invest

513
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.119
<v Speaker 2>into hard tangible assets that is proven to only increase

514
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>in value. Be sure to check out the link in

515
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>the description or the number on the screen, and be

516
00:30:49.759 --> 00:30:52.400
<v Speaker 2>sure tell them that Doc Brown from Prometheus Lynn sent

517
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>you torch is hi, guys.

518
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<v Speaker 3>And not necessarily used until needed, until necessary and done.

519
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 3>That's why in my thinking about evolution, I view it

520
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>as God's planning for the future of the journey of life,

521
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 3>and he built a system that made these genes available.

522
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I think we tend to think of heaven as a

523
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 3>long way away, But in this model, the genes for

524
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 3>the future and the genes that we have in ourselves

525
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 3>are really very close together, and they can we know

526
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 3>mutations happen, and those mutations can visit a mutation library

527
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 3>and bring down another gene that's needed in the future.

528
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's how God planned the journey of life.

529
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.039
<v Speaker 3>So when I speak of evolution, I'm talking about a

530
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 3>divinely planned system of evolution. The word doesn't scare me anymore.

531
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 3>And when I read Darwin's book The Origin of the

532
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 3>Species explains a variety of things except not the origin

533
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.160
<v Speaker 3>of the species. That was eighteen sixty five, and we've

534
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 3>been having an argument over that for now. What where

535
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 3>are we twenty twenty five? Long time?

536
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's all I said too.

537
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:12.839
<v Speaker 3>It's just the.

538
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Misinterpretation of the definitions of words. Ninety percent of the time.

539
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, like looking into this, you know the big

540
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 2>brain people. You know, you can't be the only person

541
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 2>that's seen these things and made these correlations. And I

542
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 2>seen the interview that you had done with a woman

543
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.240
<v Speaker 2>and she had asked you, and it really blew my mind.

544
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>She said, you know, like percentage wise ballpark as far

545
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>as the scientific community, how many are Christians? And you

546
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>said sixty percent.

547
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:56.519
<v Speaker 3>Sixty percent. But there's this rule in the field, don't

548
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>give God a foot in the door. And you might

549
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 3>say why, Well, the thinking behind that is once you

550
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 3>attribute it to God, you'll stop stop studying it. So

551
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 3>the idea is, rather than say God did it, we

552
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 3>accept that God did it, and then the fun part

553
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 3>is exploring how he did it. You know, what makes

554
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:22.039
<v Speaker 3>this brain work, what makes a cell work, how does

555
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 3>a pig get more fat? And so the idea of

556
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.240
<v Speaker 3>don't give God a foot in the door, it's not

557
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 3>as bad as it sounds. It's really more let's keep studying.

558
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>If God wants us to study, he and vices to study.

559
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 3>He wants actually for us to understand him and seek him,

560
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 3>and you can do that through studying science. That's what

561
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I guess my greatest revelation was, I'm really actually addressing

562
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 3>God is I try to understand this science. And that's

563
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 3>what hurts me about the young people that think they're

564
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 3>going to another source when they go to the science

565
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 3>that's going to be their new touchstone. Well, welcome aboard

566
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>to it alter revelation of the same God you've got

567
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 3>to witness in the scripture. So scripture and science to

568
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 3>me are mutually reinforcing and tell the same great story

569
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 3>of creation.

570
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean one hundred percent. And as far

571
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>as like the science, and we'll kind of get into

572
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 2>like maybe like some some metaphysics and things like that. Sure,

573
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm of the opinion that basically this uh, this body,

574
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>this it's like a it's like a car, you know it.

575
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a vehicle that our soul basically operates, because you know,

576
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the scripture says that we are seated in heavenly places.

577
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 2>If you want to use the the matrix, the neo

578
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.000
<v Speaker 2>in the matrix kind of terminology to help you better

579
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>understand it, it's similar. But it's like when you crash

580
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 2>a car, you total that car. That'll mean one percent

581
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.639
<v Speaker 2>of the time you die you know, if you if

582
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't dyeing the rick, what happens, you just step

583
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.960
<v Speaker 2>right out of the car and keep going because our energy,

584
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>our soul, that it keeps going. Yeah, I just want

585
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>to know your opinion and what well if you found

586
00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 2>with science.

587
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm a big fan of the near death experience. I

588
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 3>don't know whether you've ever read any NDEs. It's a

589
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>hobby of mine. I love reading them. I love the

590
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 3>stories of the Life review and I find them incredibly

591
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 3>convincing because no tour alike. It's not like a thousand

592
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 3>people got together and said, let's tell the story of

593
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:38.000
<v Speaker 3>a near death experience. There. Each one is unique. The

594
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 3>Life reviews fascinating. They experienced it from how they impacted

595
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 3>the other party, not how they impacted themselves, but what

596
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I might have said that her true feelings, and that's

597
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 3>in my life review. So I've read a lot of

598
00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 3>near death experience literature and it's been very meaningful to me.

599
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've got a whole shelf on the library

600
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:05.800
<v Speaker 3>over there of probably most of the near death experience

601
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 3>books are written, and I find them very convincing. And yes,

602
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 3>and those experiences they can rise out of their body.

603
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 3>They can look down in their car wreck, they can

604
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 3>witness surgeons operating on their heart. That's their soul. We are.

605
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 3>We all have souls, and those souls are eternal, and

606
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:30.039
<v Speaker 3>our bodies are not. They're more like machines. And we

607
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.039
<v Speaker 3>can wreck them in a car and we can damage

608
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>them and we can make them sick, but we have

609
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 3>that soul. It's inseparable and eternal. And that's what I

610
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 3>take from the near death experience literature. So I'm a

611
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 3>fan of it and try to have a book. Almost

612
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>every book written about that particular topic.

613
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't remember the name of the book, but

614
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>it was a couple of years ago me and my

615
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>buddies on the first podcast we ever done. Uh, we

616
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>had dove into a book that was on near death

617
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 2>experiences and uh, I can't remember. Had something to do

618
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>with hell, something.

619
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Heaven can wait or no, I'm just I could go

620
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 3>over and read you a bunch.

621
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 2>You know. He was a doctor like the r and

622
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 2>he exactly experiences that he had. He had his own

623
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>fascinating he had his own near death experience and no,

624
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I've read that book several times.

625
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 3>He had.

626
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>But the guy with the heart attack that's one that

627
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 2>really got me. That the guy had the heart attack

628
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 2>and they were giving him the shock paddles and they

629
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>brought him back and he was like, oh my god,

630
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 2>thank you. They were going to get me. They were

631
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>going to get me. And then he beat flat lined

632
00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 2>again and they paddled him, brought him back, and then

633
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>he was like he come back again. He's like, don't

634
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>let me die. Don't let me die. They're going to

635
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>get me, and flat lined again, and they him back

636
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 2>like like two or three times, and then he finally

637
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.320
<v Speaker 2>come back and he was fully recovered. He told The

638
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>doctor asked him, you know, were you hallucinating? What were

639
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.239
<v Speaker 2>you seeing? Because he wasn't a believer at this time,

640
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and the guy told him I was in the pits

641
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>of hail who he said, I was burning alive.

642
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 3>He said.

643
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.400
<v Speaker 2>People were armed, were grabbing me, pulling me in, he said,

644
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 2>And then when you brought me back, he said, I

645
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 2>come out of it like a dream. He said. That's

646
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>why I was screaming at you, please don't let me die.

647
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:26.320
<v Speaker 2>They're going to get me.

648
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 3>That I'll get your attention. Oh yeah, give you goosebumps,

649
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'll probably have twenty books about their death experiences,

650
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 3>and I believe them because they don't tell the same story.

651
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 3>Each one is somewhat unique. Their life reviews are different.

652
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 3>And it's not like they all got together and said, hey,

653
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.679
<v Speaker 3>let's tell this wild story about you know, our souls

654
00:38:52.760 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 3>leaving our body. They all had comparable experiences. And I

655
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:03.519
<v Speaker 3>to find it a very realistic literature and I really

656
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed reading it. And I'll buy every new near death

657
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.400
<v Speaker 3>book that comes out. And you know, some of them

658
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 3>are from children, some of them are from older people,

659
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 3>but they tell a similar story.

660
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, And like far As like genetics and DNA

661
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I've heard some people like on YouTube shorts and things

662
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 2>like that. Like I said, I'm I'm a generalist. I

663
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>like looking at all this stuff, but far As, like

664
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<v Speaker 2>my knowledge, it's not that expansive. But they were talking

665
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 2>about they discovered this god gene that basically his name

666
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:42.159
<v Speaker 2>was stamped into our DNA or something like that. Are

667
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<v Speaker 2>you familiar with that or am i? As?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I am familiar with it, And it elicited a

669
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<v Speaker 3>lot of debate as to whether did we really need

670
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 3>to have that god gene to make us want to

671
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 3>listen for God and That's what the way I interpreted it,

672
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 3>it was a receptor, and so that we would have

673
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 3>the affinity, the ability, and the tendency to listen for God.

674
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<v Speaker 3>And I think we all have it. And it was

675
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<v Speaker 3>seriously debated amongst theologians and scientists and so forth, and

676
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure the debate was ever settled. But I

677
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 3>have no problem with the idea that we all have

678
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 3>a God gene that makes us hungry, hungry for meaning,

679
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.880
<v Speaker 3>hungry for purpose, and hungry for the realization there's something

680
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 3>more to this life than days and years. Now that

681
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting much older, I'm really cognizant it's important to

682
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 3>have meaning. And I think we're hardwired to have meaning. Yeah.

683
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just turned forty this year.

684
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 3>And I, oh, man, you're half my age.

685
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh even now, I'm like, my brain just works differently.

686
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 2>You start thinking about your mortality, yes, your legacy, What

687
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 2>have you contributed to this world? And have you know,

688
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>give your kids the right tools they need? And I

689
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know you just for me anyways. My personal experience

690
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>is like when I hit forty, a lot of my

691
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 2>thinking and stuff changed. My mortality was facing me right

692
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 2>from thee those because it's like, you know, a best

693
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 2>case scenario, half of my life is now over.

694
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, you're right. I'm twice your age, and so

695
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting any day, you know, to meet Jesus in

696
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 3>a personal way. And I'm so thankful for my mother

697
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 3>who introduced me to that. You know, when as a

698
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 3>little fellow, I'm probably three years old, she takes me

699
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.039
<v Speaker 3>to church and keeps me awake. You know, it makes

700
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 3>me cognizant of and you know in Sunday School, Jesus

701
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.920
<v Speaker 3>loves me. This. I know because the Bible tells me so.

702
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 3>And that background I think is important for every parent

703
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 3>should expose their child to the possibility of something bigger,

704
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 3>something greater, of a creator. It perhaps does not have

705
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 3>to be Jesus, it is for me, but at least

706
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 3>the concept that we're created bangs, and we created to

707
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 3>need meaning and to look for God, to listen for God.

708
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:19.199
<v Speaker 2>And we are yeah, amen, whether we realize it or not,

709
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>we are all, you know, seeking God and we are

710
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 2>all on this this hero's journey. Uh. Before I let

711
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you go, I definitely want to ask you about this

712
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>because now that I got somebody that's kind of in

713
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that lane, I can throw out some of my thoughts

714
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 2>and hypotheses at you and see what sticks or what

715
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you think about it. I've also talked to people a

716
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 2>lot about like the Garden of Eden and how basically

717
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>they were in these light bodies and then once they

718
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 2>rebelled and they were kicked out of the garden, they

719
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden got like this, this fleshly body.

720
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<v Speaker 2>And it says that both of their eyes, you know,

721
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:05.639
<v Speaker 2>were opened, And like, I love getting into the Hebrew

722
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 2>because there's so many little head and nuggets in there. Yes,

723
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 2>like Satan his craftiness. It was described as a room,

724
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 2>and Satan is the you know, they say he is

725
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 2>the god of this world. And it says that that

726
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.519
<v Speaker 2>same word when they their eyes were opened, it says

727
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 2>that and their eyes were a room. So it's kind

728
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of like, did they become more like the Satan? Did

729
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 2>they take on a property of Satan? Is Satan more

730
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>fleshly or something? That always kind of got me. But

731
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<v Speaker 2>I always said that I believe that how we heal

732
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>ourselves and all this stuff that's going on with us,

733
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like we were built to live forever. But something

734
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>at that rebellion when we were kicked out. It's like

735
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 2>a DNA strand or something like a program was cut

736
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.599
<v Speaker 2>off and now we don't have that access to that anymore.

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741
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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I think that's as good an explanation

745
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 3>as any I've heard.

746
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

747
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:47.239
<v Speaker 3>People argue about the age of the inniverse, you know it,

748
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.599
<v Speaker 3>what is the six days? And I simply say I

749
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.719
<v Speaker 3>have no opinion because I wasn't there when it was created.

750
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<v Speaker 3>So you know, the science shows us it's fifteen been

751
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 3>your old. The sun is five billion years old. Well,

752
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 3>if you do the math, that means the sun showed

753
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Speaker 3>up on the force to day, which is exactly what

754
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Genesis one tells us. The sun appeared on Day four.

755
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 3>So I believe. I believe the Bible. Obviously, I'm a scientist,

756
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 3>so I tend to put a lot of stock in science,

757
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 3>but I don't replace my spiritual beliefs with my science.

758
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 3>I think they should be mutually reinforcing. And was there

759
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 3>a garden of Eden. I wasn't there, but I believe

760
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 3>there was there. Obviously was an initial couple who heard God,

761
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 3>who listened for him, who he breached, and then they

762
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 3>ate the apple and the rest of us are paying

763
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 3>for that still today. But I don't know about you.

764
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to live forever, I really would. I'm

765
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 3>ready to get the full do. I missed my parents.

766
00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:07.199
<v Speaker 3>I want to meet Jesus in person, and can you

767
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 3>imagine that what a blessing that would be? Will be?

768
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go back to a garden of beading style atmosphere,

769
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:15.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, have this?

770
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:15.920
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

771
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't mind have lived forever if I didn't hurt,

772
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:21.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't have two sakes, or did have heartbreak or sorrow

773
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 2>or death, all the people that might life. Yeah, I

774
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>mean that's to me, that's signed me up man. But yeah,

775
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>that's just a return to Eden and perfection. And sorry, ladies,

776
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>I have to throw this joke out. Call me a

777
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>male chauvelness if you want, but it's funny. I don't

778
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>care who you are? The Garden of Eden. It said

779
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that God told Adam he would give him the perfect partner,

780
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that she would fulfill all his desires, help him and

781
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 2>all of his work, and she would just be the

782
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>perfect helpmate, but it would cost him his right arm.

783
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 2>And Adam replied with, well, what can I get.

784
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 3>For a rip? That's cute, that's great.

785
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, ladies, I had to it's funny. I don't care

786
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 2>you are.

787
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 3>That's cute. He came bargain with God. Man, So let

788
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:18.519
<v Speaker 3>me ask you. It's sasquatch real. I think noticing your hat.

789
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I was talking about with

790
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 2>my book. My book it's called the Epic of Esau,

791
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 2>The Birthright and Seed War. I think if we let

792
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 2>scripture say what it says, it says that, you know,

793
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<v Speaker 2>the first one came out red, covered in hair from

794
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<v Speaker 2>head to toe like a Harry Cloak. I was like, man,

795
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 2>that sounds pretty squatchy to me. And then, like I said,

796
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 2>the two years that I kind of dove through this guy,

797
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 2>looking at the boring genealogies you know that nobody wants

798
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to look at. I had discovered that two of his

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00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>three wives were Whortes and Heaites, and they were labeled

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00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 2>in the Bible as nephilin giant clans. And his father

801
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:06.400
<v Speaker 2>in law was named Sierra. And so when you go

802
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 2>into the etymology of that word, that means Harry. So

803
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>here's this Harry giant clan like basically feral giants marrying Esau,

804
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:19.880
<v Speaker 2>who's also this Harry big man. So if they are

805
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 2>getting together and breeding creating, they're going to throw some

806
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 2>strange pups, to say the least. And I think that's

807
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>probably where we get the Bigfoot terminology from.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun. That's great.

809
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, man, doctor William, I really appreciate you coming

810
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.760
<v Speaker 2>on and sharing some of your knowledge with us, and

811
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<v Speaker 2>I just I love these exchanges in these conversations. And

812
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.920
<v Speaker 2>like I said in the beginning of the show, the

813
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<v Speaker 2>first of many, I hope and I stand by that.

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00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 2>I hope we can get you own and have some

815
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 2>more conversations in the future, if even not on your book.

816
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 2>We can dive into some near death experiences and tell

817
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>some stories and talk about some of that stuff. Man,

818
00:48:58.519 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm into that too.

819
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<v Speaker 3>A good interviewer and I've really enjoyed it, and I

820
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 3>appreciate being invited, So thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, the pleasure was all mine. And just one

822
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<v Speaker 2>more time for those that maybe and I always jokingly

823
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 2>say this, but it's kind of like a half hearted

824
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 2>joke if maybe our listeners weren't paying attention at the beginning,

825
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 2>they were spanking their kids or doing some laundry or

826
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.159
<v Speaker 2>doing the dishes. Let everybody know where they can find

827
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you anything you want to plug right now, websites, books, well,

828
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<v Speaker 2>speaking engagements.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the book that I think is important. It's called

830
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<v Speaker 3>Sacred Science, and the title should should explain my attitude

831
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:40.679
<v Speaker 3>towards science. It's God given and it's a revelation, and

832
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 3>therefore Sacred Science should be something I hope everybody can understand.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I did my very best to write it

834
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<v Speaker 3>to the understanding of almost any reader. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>it's available through Amazon, and I have no idea how

836
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<v Speaker 3>it's selling. That wasn't the purpose of writing it. I

837
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<v Speaker 3>really wrote it for myself and for those that are

838
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<v Speaker 3>curious about how science and faith relate to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>This whole idea that they're in conflict is simply wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>and science is another revelation of God. If you understand

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<v Speaker 3>those eight blueprints. You'll understand that they're God given. So

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<v Speaker 3>let me thank you again for bringing me on.

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<v Speaker 2>No amen, I appreciate it. And people like you are

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<v Speaker 2>like chameleons. You know, you got one foot in both lanes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I definitely appreciate your perspective. And you've taken your

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<v Speaker 2>time out.

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<v Speaker 3>To well you've got the great foot on your T

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<v Speaker 3>shirt there, So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back for some more big redfoots.

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<v Speaker 3>A good deal. That's great. Thank you, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you enjoyed that. Be sure to check out his

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and contribute to his work. Check out his book.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can see, he's a well studied man, well

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<v Speaker 2>researched man, and just a pleasant man. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many people that can be smart, but they're just jerks.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's clearly not jerk. This is a good dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Help out a good dude in our brother in Christ. Heay, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>until next time, torches.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi guys,