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<v Speaker 1>This is a podcast from WOOR The Jesse Kelly Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have some fun on a Tuesday eight. It is

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<v Speaker 1>one what screwed up my word already?

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<v Speaker 2>There?

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<v Speaker 1>We are one week away from election day and I

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<v Speaker 1>am excited. I am encouraged about many things. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about that in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what else we have on tap for tonight on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. We're gonna discuss overton windows, negotiating positions. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be kind of an opening on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you someone was gonna get fired last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and last night they got fired. The old Oracle called

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<v Speaker 1>it again. We'll talk about that, We'll talk about the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening with all these illegals in Virginia, and somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>getting arrested in the UK or going to prison in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, and it actually does apply to all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Never thought you'd care about those dirty Brits? Did you?

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<v Speaker 1>All that offensive racist jokes about Puerto Rico? And so

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<v Speaker 1>much more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Show. I actually have to lead with something that

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with anything, but I did something

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I know what I'm about to say is

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<v Speaker 1>going to shock you. So if you're driving, do not

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<v Speaker 1>drive off the road. If you're cooking, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a boiling water, hot things, be very very careful. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be shocking. Okay, if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>bad heart, please sit down. Last night I made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what, Chris. I made a mistake. I teased

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<v Speaker 1>something going into a break and then didn't deliver, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that's ever happened on this show. My

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<v Speaker 1>focus is just stay focused. I was talking talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how we have to teach our kids to have conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I was doing something specific with my sons,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told you I was gonna tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>it in a second. Then we went to break. Completely

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<v Speaker 1>lost my train of thought and went somewhere else entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my fault. That's my fault. Look, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when you listen to someone every day who is stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't do anything about my lack of intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing I can do about that. You get what

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<v Speaker 1>you get. Don't go a fit. So here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>do one day late. Here's what I do with my

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<v Speaker 1>sons to try to teach them how to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Montana. We were up there for all

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<v Speaker 1>the funeral stuff a couple weeks ago, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>over at one of my mom's neighbor's house. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a big cookout. Oh, Chris, Cory, you guys would have died, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>They had beef and pork ribs, so you could. You

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<v Speaker 1>would have been fine. But anyway, big smoke out, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just wanted to have everyone over. Everyone, Hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>come together, let's let's let's just enjoy ourselves, have a

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<v Speaker 1>good night. We ended up the guys and women separated,

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<v Speaker 1>as often happens at a party because women talk about

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<v Speaker 1>lay and boring things, and we didn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about any of that stuff. So the dudes ended up separating,

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<v Speaker 1>and my sons came over and they were standing there

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<v Speaker 1>with the men, and they weren't saying anything. Very normal

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<v Speaker 1>for teenage boys. You're not generally confident enough yet to

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<v Speaker 1>jump in with the men. But I wanted them to

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<v Speaker 1>begin engaging in conversation. So what I told them, and

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm going to keep doing to them, something you

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<v Speaker 1>can do maybe for your kids, is I told them

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<v Speaker 1>a huge part of having a conversation is asking questions

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<v Speaker 1>of other people, even if you're not interested. I'm hardly

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<v Speaker 1>ever interested, but you have to pretend. That's part of

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<v Speaker 1>being an adult. So go over to the table full

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<v Speaker 1>of women and don't come back to me until you

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<v Speaker 1>know something about someone at that table you didn't know before.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ask questions, very simple, very straightforward. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to pass that along because it was It was successful.

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<v Speaker 1>You could tell they came back. I actually had made

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<v Speaker 1>them go back twice. They came back a little more

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<v Speaker 1>puffed up than they were before they had done it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody bit them. They weren't shamed into anything. Bring me

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<v Speaker 1>back a piece of information about someone in that group.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a pony up, and go do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it sounds crazy. There I delivered on the teas.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to other topics, shall we? Oh? Before

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<v Speaker 1>I forget, Ali Besstucky is coming on next hour. She

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<v Speaker 1>has something I want to talk I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about. That's something I do talk a lot about.

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<v Speaker 1>Toxic empathy. How the communists use your values against you.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrote actually a book about it that's really good,

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<v Speaker 1>really really good for young women. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>push it pretty hard. And no, I don't get anything

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<v Speaker 1>from this. It's just when I read it, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a It is an instruction manual for young women on

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<v Speaker 1>how they take your wonderful, motherly, empathetic name nature and

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<v Speaker 1>they turn you into a filthy communist. So anyway, hang

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<v Speaker 1>on for that. Now, let's discuss something. Last night I

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<v Speaker 1>went off about something, as I often do when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to illegal immigration and mass deportation. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to go over everything I said. I was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how we have to harden ourselves. We have to be

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<v Speaker 1>prepared because if we are not, then Trump is going

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<v Speaker 1>to falter again like you did the first time. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to be He has to feel like everyone's behind him.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise he's going to falter and then we can't We

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<v Speaker 1>can't win. Mass deportation must happen. Must happen. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>have a discussion about negotiations. Because we got all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of emails about that talk. Jesse, I'm all for it

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<v Speaker 1>to pour them all, Jesse, sounds good. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of them. But we also got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>emails along these lines, and in fact, this echoes what

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<v Speaker 1>I hear and see from many of my fellow political

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<v Speaker 1>post friends, many politicians on the right. Maybe even you

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<v Speaker 1>said it yourself. You just didn't send me an email.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a ton of this, Jesse, Slow down on

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<v Speaker 1>deporting everyone now, not the women and kids. Jesse. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>at least start with the criminals. Hold on, let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with the criminals. Let's begin with the just MS thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>trendy Araguba. That needs to be first. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>the Overton window is. We've discussed it before on the

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<v Speaker 1>show Overton Window. You can look it up yourself. Overton Window.

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<v Speaker 1>What's it really about? What's the essence of the Overton window?

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<v Speaker 1>The essence of the Overton window is politicians. We want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be leaders. I want them to be leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guilty of this. We want our presidents to be leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>We want senators, how a congressman, mayors, whatever. We want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be leaders. But they are, in general not leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>They are followers. They will follow public opinion. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not unique to American politicians. In case you're sitting there saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all our guys suck. Politicians throughout history follow public opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Very few leaders. They're followers, and don't think it's as

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<v Speaker 1>unique to just people in a constitutional republic or something

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<v Speaker 1>where the people get to say in this monarchs. Monarchs

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<v Speaker 1>you're an all powerful king and you rule and your

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<v Speaker 1>word is the law, even if that's the case, if

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<v Speaker 1>too many people under your rule dislike what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be a monarch for very long.

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<v Speaker 1>The people in general have the power. The idea behind

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<v Speaker 1>an Overton window, it is shifting the public opinion your direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And in so doing, if you you shift the public

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<v Speaker 1>opinion in your direction, if you move that window, picture

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<v Speaker 1>picture a timeline. Okay, you know what a timeline looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>just a horizontal line going from you know, east to west, left, right,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever horizontal line. Now picture a little window, a little square,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the only part of the timeline you can see.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's public opinion. What we've done consistently in this

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<v Speaker 1>country for as long as I've been alive, what we've

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<v Speaker 1>done is we've only moved that window left. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>moved rapidly to the left, sometimes it moves a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit to the left, but only left. The Overton window

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<v Speaker 1>has never, ever, ever, not one time in my lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>moved to the right in any significant way. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good spending is actually a great example of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Spending is a great example. They're now spending two trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year more than they take in. Janet Yellen

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<v Speaker 1>herself is saying, if we don't find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>reduce the deficit, we are in deep, deep deep doo

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<v Speaker 1>doo as a country. And yet there has never been

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<v Speaker 1>ever in my forty three years a spending cut, not

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<v Speaker 1>one time. There have been slight reductions in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>spending increases. Hey we're spending one hundred thousand this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna spend one hundred and fifty next year. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>never mind, we'll spend one hundred and forty. And those

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<v Speaker 1>have always been celebrated by the right. Whoa look at

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<v Speaker 1>these spending cuts? Fiscal conservatism, baby. Setting aside your anger

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<v Speaker 1>at that, what's that tell you? That window on government spending,

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<v Speaker 1>that Overton window along that line left left left only left,

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<v Speaker 1>only left at all times. So we have to change that,

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<v Speaker 1>don't we? You and I, all of us, to people,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, It's up to all of us. We

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<v Speaker 1>must change that. The window of many things, not just

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<v Speaker 1>spending many things, has to begin moving right. How do

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<v Speaker 1>we do that? What can we do for that? We're

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<v Speaker 1>specifically talking about immigration here. We're all going next, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to apply to many issues. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>discuss that next. Get the cure for rhinos. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday, reminding you you

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<v Speaker 1>can email the show and you should. We adore your

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<v Speaker 1>emails Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. I actually lied.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are dumb, but we like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of your emails, and Jewish producer Chris gets them and

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<v Speaker 1>reads them and he passes the good ones along to me.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's too long, he's not going to pass it along.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're complaining about an advertised too many ads, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never going to see that. I just don't even bother

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But most of them are really, really wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>and we love them. Or you can leave us voicemails

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to what we were discussing, the Overton window, shifting

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<v Speaker 1>public opinion in your direction. It's hard, it's uncomfortable. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to get that right out of the gates. I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to understand that, right out of the gates.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no zero There is no polite, nice way

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<v Speaker 1>to shift the Overton window. Why, well, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>Overton window? Really? It's what society has decided is acceptable

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to anything. It doesn't matter pick your issue, spending, taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>abortion of immigration, doesn't matter. Society as a whole has

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<v Speaker 1>decided these are the parameters, these are the rules. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to shift it, it means you're essentially breaking

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<v Speaker 1>through a wall or a fence in one direction or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. Maybe you see left wing activism oftentimes and

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<v Speaker 1>you think to yourself, that's gross. I hate that. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would do that? Why are they doing that? What's a

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<v Speaker 1>good example. The climate nutters, the greeny climate nutters who

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<v Speaker 1>at them doing things like they'll walk into a museum

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll glue their butts to a van goh painting

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<v Speaker 1>or something crazy like that. Or they'll they'll lay down

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<v Speaker 1>on a highway and screw up a major highway. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>lake for work, and people on the right maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>the people waiting in traffic are going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>these people and become climate activists. But there is a purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>a very very focused purpose to this crazy left wing activism.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point, Chris, abortion activists. This applies to the LGBTQ

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<v Speaker 1>air Force people. Why are they worrying leather chaps and

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<v Speaker 1>Don't they know it's gross? Don't they know this turns

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be done nicely, It can't be done comfortably,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're taking people's value system and you're breaking it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're breaking things, and you and me will have to

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<v Speaker 1>break things the other direction. No, please don't put on

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<v Speaker 1>leather chaps. I beg you, and please don't break the law.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not asking you to break the law. But shifting

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<v Speaker 1>public opinion, shifting the window cannot be done nicely or politely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not possible. So let's go back to our talk

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<v Speaker 1>about immigration. I went off last night about mass deportation,

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<v Speaker 1>concerned that they will get to you, that they will

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<v Speaker 1>play on your emotions and they'll show crying kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>you will falter. I'm very concerned that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to Trump. Remember they did it to him last time.

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<v Speaker 1>He had the wonderful child separation policy at the border.

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<v Speaker 1>child separation over. I'm very, very concerned the right will falter.

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<v Speaker 1>And please get this. Let's say the numbers fifteen million

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<v Speaker 1>in the last three and a half years. Probably short,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's say the numbers fifteen million. Let's say, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is probably under selling it. Those fifteen million are

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<v Speaker 1>all going to have two kids. Obviously, some won't have

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<v Speaker 1>I can do the math. That means eighteen years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>because of this country's insane, suicidal birthright citizenship laws, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>years from now, we will have thirty million new naturalized

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<v Speaker 1>citizens who will be voting in elections eighteen years from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Without mass deportation. Eighteen years from now, Republicans will never

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<v Speaker 1>win another national election. And eighteen years is not far away, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not far away. We will never win another election without

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<v Speaker 1>mass deportation. It's not possible. So back to what we

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<v Speaker 1>were just discussing, do you want to stop that? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're saying yes, I want to stop that. I

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<v Speaker 1>have sons. I have teenage sons. They have lord willing

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<v Speaker 1>country in eighteen years, universal Democrat rule top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all communists. Now, can you imagine the horrors these

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats in eighteen years. It's not a Maybe it's coming

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<v Speaker 1>without mass deportation, but we have to stop it. And

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<v Speaker 1>our only opportunity to stop it is getting Trump elected,

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<v Speaker 1>getting a House and Senate, and praying the low TGOP

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<v Speaker 1>finally has the guts to stand up to pub pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and get it done. But we, you and me can

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<v Speaker 1>lessen that public pressure. Let's discuss how this may be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to hear. You're going to need some chalk, You're

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<v Speaker 1>the low TGP, then just hand them the keys. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>why even wait eighteen years. Let's just get it over with.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to be focused, We've got to be strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a male vitality stack in your veins, gentlemen, a

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<v Speaker 1>male vitality stack. I got this email, Jesse. I just

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<v Speaker 1>ordered the male Vitality Stack after hearing you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>nice getting a phone call from a company and a

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<v Speaker 1>representative speaking clear English, no doubt chalk. They're hardcore anti communists.

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<v Speaker 1>don't just have to You're not just a number to chalk.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to choq dot com and get a subscription. Female

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<v Speaker 1>Vitality Stacks, Male Vitality Stacks, choklitpowder, chalk dot com or

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<v Speaker 1>call them, text them five zero, chuck three thousand more

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<v Speaker 1>on this nextit is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember if you miss any part of the show, you

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<v Speaker 1>can download the whole thing on iHeart, on Spotify, on iTunes.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about Overton windows, mass deportation, illegal immigration enforcement. So

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<v Speaker 1>we got a bunch of emails, a bunch of people agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>A bunch of people said, let's just start with the criminals.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go too far. Start with the criminals. Hey, just

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<v Speaker 1>the men. Start with the criminals. So let's just do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about a business deal. I have started Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly's Ice Machines. It's a wonderful, lucrative company. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually start it. Remember this is just an analogy, but

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Kelly's Ice Machines because there are so many millions

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<v Speaker 1>and millions, probably billions of people who want to be

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<v Speaker 1>And it's gotten to a point where I'm tired of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to sell the company. It's too many headaches,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's there's another business that wants to absorb it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call this business Chris Inc. Chris Inc. Understandably does

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<v Speaker 1>not want to pay me anything for it, looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a bargain basement deal. They don't want to pay me

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<v Speaker 1>anything for it. But I have decided, before I walk

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<v Speaker 1>into a negotiation with Chris Inc. That I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get a million dollars for Jesse's ice makers. A million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars is what I need. I know. Look, we all

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<v Speaker 1>know Chris Inc. Is going to offer fifty cents. I

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<v Speaker 1>need a million dollars. Now, let me ask you something.

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<v Speaker 1>When I walk into that negotiation, do I sit down

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<v Speaker 1>at the table and say I need a million dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that my starting position? If that's what I need

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<v Speaker 1>to get, Is that what I start with? Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who knows anything about negotiation knows that's insane. If

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<v Speaker 1>I know Chris is going to try to get the

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<v Speaker 1>try to get the price down, I don't walk in

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<v Speaker 1>asking for a million dollars if that's what I need.

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<v Speaker 1>I walk in asking for five million dollars, knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris is going to counter with something way, way, way

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<v Speaker 1>less than that. Now, let's go back to our discussion

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<v Speaker 1>about immigration. If you wrote me one of these emails,

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<v Speaker 1>or left a voicemail, or said something to me, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not sound bad. Let's just start with the men.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just start with the criminals. Do you understand that

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<v Speaker 1>you are undercutting your own negotiation position before we've even

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<v Speaker 1>won the election. That's why the Overton window only shifts

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<v Speaker 1>to the left. Things exactly like that. No, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>how you shift the Overton window. How do you shift

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<v Speaker 1>the Overton window on immigration? You don't do it sounding nice.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't do it appealing to what the population wants

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<v Speaker 1>to hear. That doesn't shift public opinion on anything. You

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<v Speaker 1>take the hardest, right, most extreme position on the issue,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that it will get watered down somewhat, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the end, maybe, just maybe, fingers crossed, things will move

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<v Speaker 1>in your direction. So you don't start out saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just start with the man. You don't start out

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<v Speaker 1>with that. You start out with this, Deport everyone and men,

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<v Speaker 1>women and children. I want swat teams running into the schools,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a mote at the border. I want a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred foot wall, I want a minefield, and machine gun nets,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want people turned away at gunpoint. You can

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and recoil in horror and say, Jesse, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not who we are. Jesse gets too far, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're even correct about that. But guess what. I have

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<v Speaker 1>staked out a negotiating position that is good, that is right,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I don't get my mote, if I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get my swat teams in schools, if I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>my minefield. In the end, if I take the extreme position, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe I will break down that wall and for

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<v Speaker 1>that over to the window will move my way. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how we have to politic and it's not up to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to all of us. It is up to

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<v Speaker 1>all of us. And remember, politicians will follow us. They

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<v Speaker 1>will follow us. I had people emailing in saying, Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's not gonna do it. He's a cave. Last time

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's gonna cave. He's not gonna do it. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, and you know we'll be here screaming if

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<v Speaker 1>that happens. But I promise you cross my heart and

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<v Speaker 1>hope to die. Trump will cave if we do. If

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<v Speaker 1>public opinion is well, I mean, I know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to look harsh. We can't. What about the next

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<v Speaker 1>election we have the midterms? We can we can't look

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<v Speaker 1>mean If that's what public opinion starts to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the GOP, Trump will falter. I promise you he will.

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<v Speaker 1>If the public all of us remain strong, maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he will remain strong, they will follow us. That's

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<v Speaker 1>remain strong? If you're already giving up your negotiating position, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris inc is going to underpay you for those ice makers.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you that. What Chris, how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even talking about you. Maybe it was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was a different Chris. Why do you always personalize

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<v Speaker 1>these things? It's not it's not on you. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>to some voicemails, shall we? Just one or two of them?

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<v Speaker 3>Movie got a question for you on a very serious subject.

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<v Speaker 3>Was wondering if you ever found stones to go out

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<v Speaker 3>and buy those thermal optics and night vision you were

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<v Speaker 3>grandson's anti communists, by the way, who bought me a

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<v Speaker 3>hog College Station, Texas where we went on a night

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<v Speaker 3>vision thermal on. Tell you, brother, you see a seven

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, don't act like I haven't been hogging.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the Marine Corps. That's one. Two. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. I did not buy the mvgs yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say why, Chris, you know exactly why. Like four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. They're an astronomical amount. And here's my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's my problem. I you know, I'm not some

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<v Speaker 1>I was a four year grunt Marine, proud of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not some super stud I'm not Buka, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Berets and Air Force pjs and all these guys. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>my problem. They all have the best of the best,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I want. I don't want bottom barrel NVGs.

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<v Speaker 1>I realize you can get mbgs for less than four

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>show up at a shoot and have the crappiest NVGs there.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, I don't. I can't bring myself

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<v Speaker 1>to spend four thousand dollars on something, Chris, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Chris is with me. Everyone knew Chris would

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<v Speaker 1>be with me. I can't bring myself to drop that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of money on something. And I know I should.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I should. That is so much money. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and another thing, And you're gonna say I'm making excuses. James,

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<v Speaker 1>my oldest is about to turn sixteen. He turned sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>When's his birthday? November seventh. I'm gonna have to start

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<v Speaker 1>working on a car for him of some kind. What, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can save money by buying a kit? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you CC suggest I put together my own mvgs? Chris, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not ten years old putting together legos. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was doing anyway, No, Chris, no, no, see,

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<v Speaker 1>this is never mind. I shouldn't even brought it up

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<v Speaker 1>in front of Chris. Never mind. We're moving on. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to talk about some other things. Someone got

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<v Speaker 1>fired at CNN. I told you it was coming. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why in just a moment. But first I

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<v Speaker 1>I want to discuss I tell you a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>rough greens. I want to talk about naturopathic doctor Dennis

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<v Speaker 1>Black for a moment. I had dinner with him last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and just I want to speak to the about the

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<v Speaker 1>man for a moment. He was really really wonderful to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't maybe he bought me a steak. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I'm saying. And I'm not just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the rough greens and how wonderful it is for your

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<v Speaker 1>dog and now they have it for cats and you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's the way to get your dog and cat

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<v Speaker 1>to live longer. But about the passing of my father,

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<v Speaker 1>he was really really great about that. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that. You know, I'm a radio host, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have to do that. He has been through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in his life too, which you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter pilot and green beret. He's seen some things. He

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<v Speaker 1>was really wonderful to me, and I appreciate that. I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate this company so and it'll make your

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<v Speaker 1>dog healthier and live longer. Go put it on your

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<v Speaker 1>dog's food. You'll see a difference in your dog. Free

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<v Speaker 1>Jumpstart Trio bags eight three three three three my Dog

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<v Speaker 1>or Roughgreens dot Com slash Jesse, We'll be back. The

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Kelly Show is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get to me being right about something. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's mean to me. Your mean about my hair and

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<v Speaker 1>my massive hands. The wife is mean. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>how I confided in you. I should never have done this,

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<v Speaker 1>that my knee gets stiff now whenever I lift, whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I fly, it's not I'm not in pain. Whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>go on a ruck, it just gets super super stiff.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have these compression nie sleeves out there that

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<v Speaker 1>help with blood flow and things like that as you

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<v Speaker 1>get older. And I made the terrible mistake of confiding

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<v Speaker 1>in you that I got some knee sleeves. I also

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<v Speaker 1>made the mistake of telling my wife, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, you know what, I bet she's forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I'll just try to get them off

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<v Speaker 1>the front porch, because I had them delivered. I'll try

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<v Speaker 1>to get them off the front porch before she sees them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on a phone call today. It was a work call.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a big bunch of suit stuff. It was

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<v Speaker 1>all good stuff. Don't worry, but I'm on a work

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<v Speaker 1>call today. I lost track of tracking the package. Ding dong.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a ring at the door bell and I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>a call. I'm on speakerphone. And who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>rounds the corner with a big, old fat smirk on

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<v Speaker 1>her face, but Aubrey. She walked right up to me

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<v Speaker 1>on that work call. She didn't even have to say word.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a call, smirking and smiling as she

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<v Speaker 1>handed me my knees sleeves. And you know what, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not very nice. It's not very nice at all. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what is nice is the fact that I I'm an oracle.

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<v Speaker 1>You see. Let's let's walk down memory lane, shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just do this. We'll do this chronologically. I told

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<v Speaker 1>you the story. I think it was last week. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you the story about getting hired briefly at HLN.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a CNN knockoff kind of thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if it's still around. And they told me

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<v Speaker 1>they were gonna fly me up there. They flew me

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<v Speaker 1>up there to debate some dirty comy and I beat

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<v Speaker 1>the living crap out of him on the air, and

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<v Speaker 1>the producer pulled me aside after and said, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>We want you on here permanent, permanently. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so funny and great all that crap, and

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<v Speaker 1>then ghosted me. Never heard it from him again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I found out later on it was because I did

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<v Speaker 1>so well the communist silos himself the world of make believe.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about it all the time, silos himself in

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<v Speaker 1>a world of make believe, and good guests on communist

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<v Speaker 1>networks break down those walls, good guests for us, for

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<v Speaker 1>our side, and therefore they don't last long. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you remember last week, Possibly you do remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>said this about my friend Ryan Gurdusky. I love watching

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Gerdusky's star rise. I'm not surprised in the least

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm about one hundred percent sure he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get fired from being on these CNN panels if he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps abusing all these crazy lives the way he's been.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Jesse the Oracle, Kelly, don't shake your head, Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, Ryan was on one of these eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>person panels on CNN last night and he was debating

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of trash Mehdi Hassan, and Mehdi Hassan had

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<v Speaker 1>just gotten done, of course, calling you a Nazi, me

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<v Speaker 1>a Nazi, everyone's a Nazi, everyone who votes for Trump Nazi, Nazi, Nazi,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like the worst thing you can say to someone.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ryan Gerdusky fires back a little jab here was you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to be called Nazis? Stop table and people

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<v Speaker 2>are there, no by me. I never called you am.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not saying her saying I'm a set

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<v Speaker 2>of the Paltestinians.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope your paper doesn't go off.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is is that I hope your paper doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>go off. That's very good. It's back and forth. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a Nazi, Well, I hope your paper doesn't go off. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Abby Philip, who was the host of that show, came

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<v Speaker 1>back after the commercial break.

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<v Speaker 4>Back here and before we get started, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>just address what happened in the last segment. First, I

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<v Speaker 4>want to apologize to Medi Hassan for what was said

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<v Speaker 4>at this table. It was completely unacceptable. When we get

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<v Speaker 4>this discussion started, you'll see that Ryan is not at

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<v Speaker 4>the table. There is a line that was crossed there

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<v Speaker 4>and it's not acceptable to me. It's not acceptable to

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<v Speaker 4>us at this network. We want discussion, we want people

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<v Speaker 4>who disagree with each other to talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you cross the line of a complete lack

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<v Speaker 4>of civility, that is not going to happen here on

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<v Speaker 4>this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's and they announced later on CNN announced Ryan Gerdusky

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<v Speaker 1>will no longer be invited back on the network. Just

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<v Speaker 1>remember when the oracle speeds. I love watching Ryan Gardusky's

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<v Speaker 1>star rise. I'm not surprised in the least that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred percent sure he's going to get fired

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<v Speaker 1>from being on these CNN panels if he keeps abusing

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<v Speaker 1>all these crazy lives the way he's been. You can

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<v Speaker 1>take it to the bank. What Chris, That is the burden, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>the burden You'll never know. That's the burden of being

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist. It's journalist, Jesse. There's just no one better.

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<v Speaker 1>We love Jesse He's the best. Jesse, please kiss my baby.

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<v Speaker 1>YESI Jesse, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse, Hey Oracle. I live in

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<v Speaker 1>East Tennessee. I've been voting for forty years. Today I

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<v Speaker 1>voted early for the first time. I'm writing to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know this was the first time I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>more accurate reputation representation of our population. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of big words, nailed it, young and o, old,

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<v Speaker 1>black and white. Plus the mood of the crowd was

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<v Speaker 1>more upbeat and joyful than I've ever seen at a

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<v Speaker 1>polling location. That's how you know they weren't communists. For

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<v Speaker 1>the last few years, the news has made me depressed

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<v Speaker 1>and worried about my grandkid's future. But after seeing these

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<v Speaker 1>people today, I feel that maybe we will wake up

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<v Speaker 1>in time to turn things around. God bless you and

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<v Speaker 1>your family. I hear this story so much at polling locations,

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<v Speaker 1>at places where people are voting early. One, there are

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<v Speaker 1>lots of them. Two. People are happy, motivated, hopeful, joyful.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to feel good about right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>can take a step back, and we do and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the huge problems we have and the huge problems

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<v Speaker 1>that are still to come. But I'm really feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>there might be an awakening happening in this country. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't have to email me. All the

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<v Speaker 1>problems is a potential problem, I get it. I'm feeling hopeful.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a podcast from wor
