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<v Speaker 2>He is coming to you for the thirty ninth floor

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<v Speaker 2>of Primus Tracks Towers in Mexico City. It's Encyclopedia Frankie Bearstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello guys, and thank you very much for six thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Six thousand. All right, it seems like yesterday you were

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<v Speaker 2>banging on the door of one thousand and you were

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<v Speaker 2>You were for people to like and follow so they

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<v Speaker 2>would both surpass on Wow, six thousand to what do

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<v Speaker 2>you attribute your recent success and popularity.

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<v Speaker 1>Both pictures, Yeah, informative posts, cool footage, commemorative reminders, very nice,

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<v Speaker 1>such and such was released on a day like these.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're essentially doing the exact opposite of what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing on the Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we gotta go. We gotta make it interesting for

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<v Speaker 1>the followers, so there's unique content on each account.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm providing worthless information. So you're what you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be working very well. Yes, thank you all

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<v Speaker 2>for following those socials. We put out as much relevant

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<v Speaker 2>information as we possibly can. Well Today, Frankie, we are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Oxy Content Girl. We are near the end

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<v Speaker 2>of our Monolith of Phobos journey. Oxyconton Girl is track

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<v Speaker 2>nine on your Monolith of Phobos record. It is five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and three seconds long. Music by Claypool and Lenin

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics by Claypool. Here are your credits, Frankie Less, Claypool vocals, bass,

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<v Speaker 2>mellotron and drums. In fact, this is the only track

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<v Speaker 2>of which Less plays drums on the record. Sean Lennon vocals, guitar,

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<v Speaker 2>auto harp. Frankie, are you familiar with the auto harp?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen some folk bands using it. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people across musical genres use it. It looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a miniature harp, but there are these buttons that you

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<v Speaker 2>press and when you depress the button, it sends a

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<v Speaker 2>bar down across the numerous strings to formulate chords for you,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can strum strum the chords while holding down

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<v Speaker 2>simply a button as opposed to fretting a guitar neck.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's the auto harp.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So the guy's left hand is covering a bar, this

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<v Speaker 2>wood bar here that has the buttons on it. As

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<v Speaker 2>you can see, it kind of looks like a miniature harp,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually a member of the zither family. And

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<v Speaker 2>so he's strumming with his right hand. Here's a taste

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<v Speaker 2>of the sound. Pretty cool sound, and of course you

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<v Speaker 2>hear it on Oxy Cotton Girl as well. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>question is Frankie who brought the autoharp to Rancho Relaxo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really fascinating to this cover Dead. There's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>a unique instrument on almost every single track.

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<v Speaker 2>The cosmic rain drum, the melotron shows up quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some interesting percussive elements throughout, and then this autoharp

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<v Speaker 2>appears out of nowhere. I don't know if Wiley Woods

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<v Speaker 2>left it behind after hanging around one day, or if

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<v Speaker 2>this was another infamous Less Claypool craigslist pick up. Not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen a handful of people use it in

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<v Speaker 2>a variety of settings, and it's got a really neat

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<v Speaker 2>sound to it, and just by virtue of pressing a

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<v Speaker 2>button to get your cord, because when you depressed the button,

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<v Speaker 2>it mutes the strings that are not necessary for forming

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<v Speaker 2>the chord. So it really is an instrument that a

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<v Speaker 2>beginner can pick up and strum some chords. So it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see it a Renaissance fair?

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<v Speaker 2>I have been to a ren fair. I don't recall

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<v Speaker 2>if I ever saw this auto harp there. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the autoharp was invented or patented in the late nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>century in the United States, but it's certainly inspired by

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<v Speaker 2>instruments such as zithers. In true American fashion, somebody thought

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<v Speaker 2>to shortcut it by adding a button that bars the

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<v Speaker 2>chord for you. Thanks technology, all right, So Oxycutt and

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<v Speaker 2>girl Frankie, what do you have on this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Oxy is another one of those relatively rare tracks because

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<v Speaker 1>it was It has been performed only twenty times to date.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of prevalent during the twenty sixteen tour.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not performed at every show, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>the last performance to date was that Boulder, Colorado show

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen, where they did the full album back

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<v Speaker 1>to back has not been performed again since. So Oxy

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<v Speaker 1>America Lariot, They've been left behind. Yeah, I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a quote about the song Oh Please. While the album's

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics are so real, is Oxy Counting Girl at topical

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<v Speaker 1>meditation on the opio with Crisis, to which Les replied,

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely is. I have friends that were junkies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up around substance abuse and alcoholism. I have

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<v Speaker 1>opiate abuse. My friend's daughter is deep in heroin world

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<v Speaker 1>because she started off on oxy. Now she doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know where she is. Lyrically, Oxy Counting Girl is a

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<v Speaker 1>dark tune, but it's my way of voicing my concern

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<v Speaker 1>and exercising some of those demons through a character. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Lennon said, there's definitely an anti big pharma theme

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<v Speaker 1>on the record. You have oxy content, but also Cricket,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about a kid that gets hooked on prescription

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<v Speaker 1>drugs legally and it ruins his life. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest evils in America is the contradiction between big pharmacy

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<v Speaker 1>pushing legal drug dealing on kids and adults, while there's

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<v Speaker 1>a war on criminalized drugs that is ruining a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other subsection of society. Have either of you had personal

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<v Speaker 1>experience with addiction? Lennon said, I'm lucky that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an overtly addictive personality. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that just can't be around certain substances. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really had that severe problem with anything. And then let's

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<v Speaker 1>said I was a pothead for many years. I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up around addicts. My uncle was a tweaker for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years and died at fifty. My grandparents were also alcoholics.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I was a little kid, I was always reinforced.

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<v Speaker 1>It was always reinforced in me by my parents that

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<v Speaker 1>we had an addiction issues in our family and to

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<v Speaker 1>be very careful. Because of that, I've always been a

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<v Speaker 1>moderate guy. I've tiptoed around the volcano, but only tip toe.

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<v Speaker 1>I never jumped in ever. Since my kids were very young,

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<v Speaker 1>I've told them stories of friends of mine that went

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<v Speaker 1>too far. My body stole a nitrous tank from the dentist,

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<v Speaker 1>filled up a garbage back and ended up passing out

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<v Speaker 1>inside and he's suffocated. Mike Keiths no visas stories who heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and certainly this is familiar lyrical territory, which we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the lyrics. But certainly that interview reveals just

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<v Speaker 2>that that this is based on some kind of personal

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<v Speaker 2>experience for somebody who's close to less the lyrical the

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<v Speaker 2>composer of the lyrics here. And it's not an unfamiliar topic. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>we've it's been addressed many a time. But Sean noted

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the second track on the record that

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<v Speaker 2>takes on the U. Yeah, the legal drug epidemic. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I mentioned Demon Copperhead less time Frankie

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<v Speaker 2>when we talked to Cricket and the Genie. But that

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<v Speaker 2>book by Barbara Kingsolver, as far as a fictional account

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<v Speaker 2>of the opioid crisis, is about as good as it

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<v Speaker 2>gets for describing how awful it was for a certain

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<v Speaker 2>segment of the population. And I cannot recommend that book enough.

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<v Speaker 2>It is enthralling, it is frustrating, it's beautiful, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it is so representative. I think of of what the

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<v Speaker 2>opioid crisis did to essentially especially to rural America, and

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<v Speaker 2>the numerous lousy outcomes from that crisis, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we I think we tend to leave it behind in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the in the pre COVID years, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>still happening. It's still a huge problem because you have

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<v Speaker 2>you have people in schools carrying narcan around, Like teachers

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<v Speaker 2>have a narcan in their desks, right. I I know

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<v Speaker 2>of an educational assistant at a at a high school

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<v Speaker 2>in my area who was handing narcan to kids. Now

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<v Speaker 2>this this was a this was a controversial thing, but

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<v Speaker 2>this assistant was handing narcanda to students and saying, if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever see one of your classmates odeing, hit them

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<v Speaker 2>with this. So like people are carrying it around like

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<v Speaker 2>that tells you how how badly these drugs are being abused.

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<v Speaker 2>This tracks are real pick me up, isn't it, Frankie.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's why this track that's it's very deep

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<v Speaker 2>on the record, so because if they led with this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be a huge downer for everybody. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the track itself. I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of parts from it, Frankie, because I'm once

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<v Speaker 2>again coming back to this record after a long absence,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the second half here, Frankie, I haven't heard these

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<v Speaker 2>tunes in quite some time. I had forgotten that there

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<v Speaker 2>were a couple distinct parts to Oxy Conton Girl that

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<v Speaker 2>have quite a bit of charm to them and listen ability.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to start at the beginning because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to play this bass intro because it reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>of something Gladie came glad some Champagne.

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<v Speaker 1>I had forgotten how complex that intro was.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's just sliding up one step, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing a fun picking pattern for sure, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>always stuck with me. Once this main lick kicks in, Frankie,

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<v Speaker 2>this to me sounds somewhat of a default twenty first

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<v Speaker 2>century Claypool's strumming pattern. It's it's kind of bouncy, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's something that we are familiar with.

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<v Speaker 3>But he takes it in a different direction here, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly when the vocals kick it so.

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<v Speaker 1>She loves coon and rowin the world.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't know what to do. That's so blue, so catchy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, uh, that's that's an earworm, just two words.

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<v Speaker 2>But the delivery is the payoff there, so we get

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<v Speaker 2>that pattern through much of the tune. I wanted a

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<v Speaker 2>forward to about a minute eighteen seconds because right here

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<v Speaker 2>the bass and the melotron and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>instrumentation builds a nice wall of sound and and it

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<v Speaker 2>returns near the end of the tune. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of tension in the instrumentation here to name the stage

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<v Speaker 2>building and then and then we get that transition to

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<v Speaker 2>this bullet mic part that I really really like.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>That descending driver to the eer is is great. The

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<v Speaker 2>melotron and bass aer and lockstep during the verse, but

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<v Speaker 2>then when they go to that bridge, the melotron is

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<v Speaker 2>off making sounds. The baseline changes, so there's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a release there, uh, and more dynamics. But I

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<v Speaker 2>love the contrast of building that wallow sound with a

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<v Speaker 2>Unison riff and then letting it drop out for that

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<v Speaker 2>bullet mic part so that you know it's this is

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<v Speaker 2>not an all a tune. There's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>fun to break down.

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<v Speaker 1>These my favorite parts for sure. Oh that breakdown, huge

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<v Speaker 1>shift sample breakdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your horns ready, move up one step. There it

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<v Speaker 2>is again, it's a very sabbath like rift to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Love love the part very.

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<v Speaker 2>Much, so so that drops to halftime on the drums

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<v Speaker 2>really cool riff there uh, and Less's Drummonds sounds pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good in that part. And man, yeah, I like that

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<v Speaker 2>riff a lot. And and they just give it to

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<v Speaker 2>us for that one part. They don't come back to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to you have to savor it while

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<v Speaker 2>you get it, which is what kind of makes this

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that idea. And you know, Sabbath really

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<v Speaker 2>experimented with a lot of psychedelia too in there in

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<v Speaker 2>in their records, whether it's those interstitial tracks or something

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<v Speaker 2>like Planet Caravan. They're certain they certainly weren't averse to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that, yeah, to me, that's that sounds very Sabbath like,

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<v Speaker 2>really satisfying part. Then we come back to the standard

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<v Speaker 2>near the end here because the autoharp is doing some

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<v Speaker 2>really cool stuff as we make our way out of

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<v Speaker 1>Very catchy melody on the other harp certainly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's very jaunty. It's it's very it's cheerful almost,

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<v Speaker 2>uh and and it has that just because I know

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<v Speaker 2>how it's employed. It almost does sound like a medieval

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<v Speaker 2>that guitar part, but it sounds it sounds almost medieval.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting. So this one moves, This is a

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<v Speaker 2>This was a nice surprise. I don't think we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>we would label filler, And anybody who would call Space

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<v Speaker 2>Farm filler hit your head checked, all right. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most brilliant compositions of the twentieth century. So

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<v Speaker 2>there really is no so far, I haven't heard a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly inspired. So what are you what do you what

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<v Speaker 2>do you get from this tune instrumentally, Frankie, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you focusing in on instrument wise when you're listening to it?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely all the layers that are to it, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>got that pretty intricate intro and then the galloping baseline,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it changes, and then you got the breakdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got the the autoharp. It's just the melotron.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just so full of details. It's very rich

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, I love the inclusion of the melotron. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned it already. We knew that there was melotron

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out at Rancho Relaxo because Tom Wade used it

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<v Speaker 2>for Coattails of a Dead Yet way back in ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's not a twangy song despite being performed

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<v Speaker 1>on the resonator.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a great point. No, it doesn't sound twangy

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<v Speaker 2>at all. It's it's certainly a different approach that he

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<v Speaker 2>uses there. I wonder if the because we have so

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<v Speaker 2>few live performances, we're gonna hear one later. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if the packet n Base seemingly just makes it a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit sharper, which is what we've been hearing with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the other tunes that were recorded on

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<v Speaker 2>the resonator. I would actually like to hear the attack

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<v Speaker 2>of the packet n base on that bassline for a

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<v Speaker 2>live performance of this tune, and you know, we've we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a summer tour coming with CLD playing some some

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<v Speaker 2>some tunes. So you never know, Frankie, you never know

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<v Speaker 2>they might reach back and give us something that was,

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<v Speaker 2>as you noted, left behind yep in the before times.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that I'm a fan of this song.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it takes too long to get where

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<v Speaker 2>it needs to go. That bass intro is only about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five seconds long. This one starts, it starts to

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<v Speaker 2>fade right around the you know, the song runs out

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<v Speaker 2>at about the four and a half minute mark, so

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<v Speaker 2>you get about thirty seconds of fade noise outro, which

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<v Speaker 2>is fine. So but the song itself, you know, four

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<v Speaker 2>solid minutes with three distinct parts, pretty cool stuff. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about these depressing lyrics. Let's go I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to it makes me so sad. No, this is These

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics are I wouldn't say typical Claypool lyrics, but the topic,

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<v Speaker 2>as we noted, certainly is. And I like the pun

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<v Speaker 2>of so blue because when when somebody says they're blue,

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<v Speaker 2>that usually means they're down on the dumps.

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<v Speaker 1>But it means she's literally turning blue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she has ceased breathing due to taking a hit

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<v Speaker 2>on some some bad drugs. I I this goes right

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<v Speaker 2>back to what he said in the interview that that

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<v Speaker 2>first full line, she was an OxyContin girl in a

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<v Speaker 2>heroin world. So she's, you know, she's she's got one addiction,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's in a world where everybody else is doing

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<v Speaker 2>something else, and she was, and she didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do when she ran out a pill. She scored

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<v Speaker 2>on the street, and now her lips are turning blue.

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<v Speaker 2>So she went from something that was relatively safe as

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<v Speaker 2>far as not killing you, as far as it's lethality, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>into taking big risks on the street because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's in that stuff. So I listened to a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>uh Frankie that the in which the host is really

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<v Speaker 2>pro drug like recreational drugs, but he always says check

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<v Speaker 2>your shit, like if you're gonna score street drugs, test

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<v Speaker 2>at first. So I know that doesn't apply to me

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not one of my hobbies, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>good advice. The other thing I wanted to point out

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<v Speaker 2>is he's telling us a story that she was daddy's

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<v Speaker 2>little girl in a bubblegum world. So she she went

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<v Speaker 2>from a bubblegum world to the heroin world. So she's

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<v Speaker 2>certainly a child of privilege, being described as weaning off

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<v Speaker 2>the silver.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoon, A drama drama club kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, drama club kid. All right. She goes to

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<v Speaker 2>New York wants to get on stage, but before you

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<v Speaker 2>knew it, she was hooked on drugs, so it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really work out for her, seemingly. And then so this

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<v Speaker 2>bullet Mike part, didn't anybody tell her not to? Did

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<v Speaker 2>anyone say she shouldn't go? And so this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is the downside, right of following your dream. So anytime

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<v Speaker 2>anytime somebody says I'm going to LA, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>New York and I'm gonna make it big, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that it's an infinitesimal chance that that's actually going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the downsides is what Less is describing here,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can fall into really lousy circumstances and in

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<v Speaker 2>a bad crowd for lack of a better term. So

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<v Speaker 2>these questions, didn't anybody tell her not to? Did anyone

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<v Speaker 2>say she shouldn't go? That's really interesting because if he

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<v Speaker 2>if he's talking about like, don't go to New York,

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<v Speaker 2>don't follow your dreams. That's really interesting. So who stepped

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<v Speaker 2>up and said she shouldn't ought to? Who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the one to drive her to the er? I

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<v Speaker 2>love that Enjamment and the way he delivers it, so

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<v Speaker 2>certainly Broken Dreams. Does this sound like a Does this

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a familiar theme, Frankie?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a big film guy, Frankie. So I'm I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of a couple of movies that kind of reflect this, this,

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<v Speaker 2>this Broken dream these.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to point out that this storyline and

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<v Speaker 1>lyrics kind of reminded me of Try Try Try by

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<v Speaker 1>Jonas Akerlund, which was actually an accompanying short film to

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<v Speaker 1>the single of the same name by the Smashing Pumpkins.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've never seen that a company.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's oh it's really really hard to watch. Oh boy, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there's a parallel. I was thinking something like

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<v Speaker 2>Requiem for a Dream as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, pretty good film as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, a disturbing film. It really stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I saw it in college, and I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it since. I don't need to, Okay, So some

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<v Speaker 2>of the imagery is seared into my mind forever. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of media out there that that plays

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<v Speaker 2>on this same theme. So obviously Claypole is not the

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<v Speaker 2>only one writing about this, but the imagery that he

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<v Speaker 2>provides is is pretty stark. You know, the Oxyconton girl

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<v Speaker 2>was fending for her boyfriend too. When they ran out

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<v Speaker 2>of cash. He put her on the streets and then

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<v Speaker 2>they called her baby Blue. This is so dark.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing about this song, which makes it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>different to the other Claypool songs of the same nature,

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<v Speaker 1>is that in other songs, Les just puts the character

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<v Speaker 1>out there and they have a tragic downfall, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is no intervention from Liz in terms of an opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>As a narrator, he's just putting their story out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But with this one, he is actually inquiring as to

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<v Speaker 1>why these have to happen. So that kind of makes

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<v Speaker 1>this one different.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's a product of it being based

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<v Speaker 2>on someone he is close to that he's asking these

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<v Speaker 2>questions now as opposed to, yeah, this here's this tweaker

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<v Speaker 2>that did these tweaker things and we know that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is why does this happen to people?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's doing something important here, which is

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<v Speaker 2>he showing that this can happen to anyone. Right, this

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<v Speaker 2>kid's from a privileged background, they're in the drama club,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're pursuing acting. Everything seems to be going to

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<v Speaker 2>plan for this kid. But at any time, when when

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<v Speaker 2>there's some kind of adversity or there's some kind of misfortune,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody can fall into this because these these drugs are

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly addictive, uh, and it's really hard to break that

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<v Speaker 2>addiction once you're into them. And I think what a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of us do in society, Frankie is we and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm using the Royal we is we fall into defison

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<v Speaker 2>thinking we think that yes, the you know, the poor

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<v Speaker 2>have more of a predilection for drugs, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>the case. There's a lot, there's so many variables that

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<v Speaker 2>go into it. So this, you know, this idea that

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<v Speaker 2>anybody can fall into it and one person is not

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<v Speaker 2>more likely than the other, is uh. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>right attitude to have about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a great real world example that

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<v Speaker 2>this can happen to anyone. Just that part that her

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend has to pimper so they can both get their

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<v Speaker 2>fix is so sad. Yeah, this is such a downer

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<v Speaker 2>of a tune. Lyrically, this might be one of the

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<v Speaker 2>darkest sets of lyrics we've ever gotten from Claypool. Last

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<v Speaker 2>part here, she never really had a clue. When she

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<v Speaker 2>took a hot hit, she scored off the street, her

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<v Speaker 2>lips started turning blue. Who knew what to do? And

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<v Speaker 2>so then we're getting to those blue lips meaning she's dead,

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<v Speaker 2>she's dying, she's dead. That just coming back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's going to be the one to drop her at

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<v Speaker 2>the er? And it's drop her at the er. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not take her in and say help my friend. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you pull up, you put her at the doors, and

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<v Speaker 2>you leave because the people that would take her there

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<v Speaker 2>probably don't want to be involved because there would be

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<v Speaker 2>a law enforcement involvement after that. So, really really fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>set of lyrics here, and not you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>lyrics guy, so I come, I'm all singing the words

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, letting the images play in my head.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is a This is a set of

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<v Speaker 2>just such a reminder of how a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are just trying to cope with the challenges of life.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for that visceral set of lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it also kind of, i mean, film wise, it

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of reminded me of Gia, which is another

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<v Speaker 1>really spectacular film. Yeah, have you watched that? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a while with Angelina Julie really really incredible performance

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<v Speaker 1>and a really tragic story as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you restack that one for me? I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>all the major plot points.

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<v Speaker 1>Gia became a prominent supermodel in the eighties. She was

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover of pretty much every fashion magazine you

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<v Speaker 1>could think of, but her drug addiction escalated into heroine abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>and through that heroine addiction, she contracted AIDS well HIV,

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<v Speaker 1>which developed into AIDS and by the time she passed

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<v Speaker 1>away in a hospital Beth, her mother recalled how when

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<v Speaker 1>she she tried to pick her up from the beth,

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<v Speaker 1>the skin of her back peeled off and it stayed

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<v Speaker 1>glues to the sheets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes. Yeah, this is a this is a horrifying subject,

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<v Speaker 2>just to see what this does to humans and their

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<v Speaker 2>bodies and their minds and uh and and much of

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff is engineered by pharmaceutical companies. Yes, that is

435
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<v Speaker 2>so weird and.

436
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<v Speaker 1>When when Les saith I used to be a potthab,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that seems so harmless and inocuus. Does it compare, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>compared to heroin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I smoked a shitload of weed in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>It just affected my memory. The recip is fine, you know,

441
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<v Speaker 2>like you're you're okay. It's a lot harder to come

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00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>back from this other stuff. It's just a reminder just

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<v Speaker 2>to really watch yourself and watch out for your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's also what makes this record unique.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's what Sean mentioned in that interview we quoted

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<v Speaker 1>back when we were discussing Cricket. He said, a lot

447
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<v Speaker 1>of progressive and psychedelia gets associated with with drug use

448
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<v Speaker 1>in a way that almost tends to glorify that drug use.

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<v Speaker 1>And whereas this record has nothing but cautionary tales about

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<v Speaker 1>drug use.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, And that's uh, that's certainly front and center

452
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<v Speaker 2>in this track. Who Well, we've talked about it enough

453
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<v Speaker 2>that beautiful music can only mean one thing. Frankie, it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for Primates takes. If you want your take on

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<v Speaker 2>the track up for discussion, read right here on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>All you have to do is go to Patreon dot

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<v Speaker 2>com Ford slash Prime must Tracks, and there the universal

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<v Speaker 2>constant is primates takes. We have a lot of takes today, Frankie.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to Oxy Cotton Girl, Hug Guy, Frankie says,

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<v Speaker 2>another one of them Claypool happy uplifting tunes with sad,

461
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 2>disturbing lyrics underneath. I don't know if it is another

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<v Speaker 2>version of the Jilly story, but this song is so

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<v Speaker 2>catchy and beautiful and definitely one of my biggest favorites

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<v Speaker 2>on the album. And yeah, indeed, and parenthetically, he adds, Frankie,

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<v Speaker 2>how the hell you don't like SIDEB of this tremendous album?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to respond to hugey.

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<v Speaker 1>Upside B?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you said you didn't didn't listen to it

469
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<v Speaker 2>as much as Side A, Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean because I tend to listen to some

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<v Speaker 1>of these tracks more in the context of listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the record back to back. I don't pull out Oxy

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<v Speaker 1>or America to mix them with my playlist, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do I do love Side B. Yes, there, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess this is actually side C or D.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I suppose if you divide it in half,

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<v Speaker 2>that's uh what we're looking at here, but way to

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<v Speaker 2>cover yourself, Frankie, whew bullet dodged?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Did you feel like Neo leaning backwards and dodging

482
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<v Speaker 2>all those matrix bullets?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely? Although that one that that guy shot the scratch

484
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<v Speaker 1>my arm up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I clipped your arm that right? Uh. Eric and

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<v Speaker 2>Australia are resident curmudgeon, says Less found an able collaborator

487
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<v Speaker 2>in mining the ills of American society. They ain't never

488
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<v Speaker 2>gonna run that well dry. This one overstays its welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting because I was observing that it didn't for me

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<v Speaker 2>because of the intro, outro and then the meat of

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<v Speaker 2>it being a bit more brief.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Eric just told you it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Eric's tolerance is notoriously limited. Yes, is that representative of

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<v Speaker 2>all Australians? I'm kidding all right. So Mickey Water says,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the song, but it's yet another cautionary tale

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<v Speaker 2>of drug use gone wrong, which is getting to be

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<v Speaker 2>an overused subject matter. Basically a sequel to Gilly's on Smack.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's the second Gilly's reference there, Brooks. Uh oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I better do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, Brooks breaks a Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks says I absolutely love the way Lesson Shawn's voices

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<v Speaker 2>blend on this track, and the change in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>goes hard and album highlight for sure. I cut your

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<v Speaker 2>stuff now, here's my microphone. Brooks, Yeah, I do with

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<v Speaker 2>it what you will. If he was smart, he would upgrade.

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<v Speaker 2>John Shreeve says this is a masterpiece. The subject matter

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<v Speaker 2>is tragic, the music urgent and tells a story on

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<v Speaker 2>its own. This hits hard when it reminds you of

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<v Speaker 2>old friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if it reminds you of old friends, then you

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<v Speaker 2>are you are deep in thought right now. Thanks John Shreven,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for all these primates takes about this here

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<v Speaker 2>Oxy Cotton Girl track masterpiece. It is pretty damn catchy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very poppy in spots, but it's still so Claypoolian.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this is a and I think we've

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<v Speaker 2>said this about a few tracks. It's a really good

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<v Speaker 2>mix of the two of them and their stylings. You

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<v Speaker 2>would never get that so blue dual vocal on A

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. Yeah, really embracing that kind of songwriting. Both

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<v Speaker 2>of them are live cuts. A jam vehicle live cuts,

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<v Speaker 2>the jam vehicle live cuts.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what's going on here? Disembodied voice of

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Soyer. It's one count them one live cut of

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<v Speaker 2>Oxy Cotton Girl is just just a result of the

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<v Speaker 2>paucity of performances, Frank.

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<v Speaker 1>Oxy being that infrequent on the set lists actually made

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<v Speaker 1>it very difficult to provide in terms of a good

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<v Speaker 1>quality recording. It was unfortunately, was not performed at any

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<v Speaker 1>of the webcasts. So I cherry picked these performance which

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<v Speaker 1>I think sounds decent.

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<v Speaker 2>This is May seventeen, Older Theater at the Fox Theater

534
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<v Speaker 2>and Boulder Fox Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Boulder, that's when they did the full album for

536
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<v Speaker 1>the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you weren't at this one. You were at

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<v Speaker 2>the Goblin shows in Colorado, Okay, at the Atene That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Release the DVD, yeah, rat, And of course they have

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<v Speaker 2>to milk that for applause.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet another false ending. Let's move forward, man, That sounded great.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move forward here. And by the way, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a seven minute track, so there's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of intro outro. I would imagine base noodling and

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<v Speaker 2>then noise here at the end in a little Jemmy

547
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<v Speaker 2>spot love that melotron less is really locked into that

548
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 2>bouncy rhythmic pattern, and I think, I guess it would

549
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<v Speaker 2>be hard to break out of it with that drum beat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's a lot of fun. That's a fun little

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00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 2>slice of Oxy Cotton Girl, and it makes you wonder

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<v Speaker 2>why it disappeared from the setless in favor of other tunes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun, it's bouncy, it's got a really cool heavy

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<v Speaker 2>part in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>So it might bring them down to performance.

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<v Speaker 2>It might. I guess when you're singing that every night,

557
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<v Speaker 2>it might affect you one way or another. Do you think, Frankie,

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<v Speaker 2>that this is gonna sneak into your midnight run playlist?

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<v Speaker 2>Not for the time being, We'll put it in definite

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<v Speaker 2>hold on that. Well, come back in a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll circle back to this, as they'll say, Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I can say this, get the narcan Oxycotton Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been tracked. Next time, Frankie, we find out what

564
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<v Speaker 2>happens to all bubbles eventually, Childhood's end purs primates primatrons,

565
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>people of Earth. Thanks for sticking around for Oxycotton Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely go for a walk, do something that cheers you up.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Peta dog, We'll be back next week with another Sordid Tail,

568
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 2>which is actually pretty timely because there's a new biopic

569
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<v Speaker 2>about the secondary subject of this upcoming track. Anyhow, Frankie,

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<v Speaker 2>are you planning on seeing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie, I wasn't planning to, and I guess I'm definitely

572
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<v Speaker 1>not now that I've read so many negative reviews about it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of us has to in the name of research.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, please watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'll write off the ticket cost as a business expense.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds good, That's how I could justify it. All right, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you all for listening. We'll see you next time

578
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>later days.

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<v Speaker 1>Willa, Mace, so so.

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<v Speaker 3>So so.

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<v Speaker 1>So so so so
