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<v Speaker 1>This is lapsed Vinstickmahn. I am aware apparently that this

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<v Speaker 1>lapsed fan podcast, this garage based college level mediocre at

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<v Speaker 1>best entertainment, if you want to call it, that vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>has been nominated for an award. Don't ask me why,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have been. They've been nominated for the Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast Award for Best Wrestling Podcast. Now, apparently they want you,

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<v Speaker 1>they call you, their lapsed fan solar system, to get

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<v Speaker 1>up and vote for them. I don't know why you'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this. They are quite frankly and that

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<v Speaker 1>notwithstanding a degenerate, a fraud, a complete hallucination entertainment based podcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason they insist that you vote for them. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I personally will not. But if you feel so inclined

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<v Speaker 1>to lower yourself to the level of human that you

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<v Speaker 1>suggest you need to be, despite the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>are already at a level that is nondescribable by human existence,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to www. Not Sportspodcastgroup dot com, slash

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Underscore category slash best Dash Wrestling Dash Podcasts slash hashtag.

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<v Speaker 1>There you can determine the fate of this completely juvenile

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<v Speaker 1>and unnoteworthy podcast and if they are as they claim

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<v Speaker 1>to be the best podcast out there. Now you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the fuck out of my goddamn office.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carnaco

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<v Speaker 2>and JP Sorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got an excited Christmas program lined up for these folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been to a Little Boys this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an artificial tree, so I did artificial job at

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<v Speaker 3>trimming time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is only exceeded by an inability to adjust hollow

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<v Speaker 1>the outd wrangling.

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<v Speaker 2>Here the Lapsed Fan got a price.

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<v Speaker 1>For the million dollar Man even seven claus and.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, say it's not so.

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<v Speaker 3>Off.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, we're back. It's the TLF twenty twenty four Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>Show and it is going down in the record books.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the wrestling Ay three of Christmas shows.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm you know, I'm actually in a weird way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually surprised we haven't gotten more Vienna's.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah, I think we started a little too late.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe in terms of when wettributed the sid. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I have a can of vienna Is in my

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<v Speaker 2>hand right d with chicken beef and pork added in

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<v Speaker 2>chicken broth. Oh god, sounds delicious. We have to have, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck do you eat that way? You put

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<v Speaker 2>on you put on crackers and you eat it like

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<v Speaker 2>a sandwich. That's why that comes with crackers. Oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. I've just been reading about sid and what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell Vienna sausages are.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the ultimate, that's the ultimate rabbit hole.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I was like every other WrestleMania besides

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<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania three can be awesome, but they can never be

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<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania three. I suspect we'll be saying that about this

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four Christmas show because we are continuing and

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<v Speaker 2>we are blown away and we are overwhelmed here with

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<v Speaker 2>Mama Sorrow JP as well. I'm about to open the

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<v Speaker 2>next gift of Christmas, and I'm so glad you were.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to open that last one, boss that works

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<v Speaker 2>up there, and this one comes to us from the

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<v Speaker 2>swing state of Georgia. Oh and our pal Tim Zielenbach,

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<v Speaker 2>And I meant to ask you earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>Are some of the gifts coming from people that you

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<v Speaker 3>met this year because you went.

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<v Speaker 2>To a few special Yes, yeah, yeah, sure, yep, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we have met several of them in person, whoa, this

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<v Speaker 2>is quite a bit in this envelope here from Tim?

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<v Speaker 3>What is what have we got here?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure I have everything? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with a letter, gentlemen, co chairs. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>closed a pair of eleven by fourteen inch photographs I

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<v Speaker 2>made during a July sixteenth, nineteen ninety four card at

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<v Speaker 2>the sun City super Bowl in the Republic of South Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>During the battle days of apartheid, sun City was a

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<v Speaker 2>place where mercenaries and foreign entertainers like Frank Sinatra came

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<v Speaker 2>to sing and collect cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign entertainers otherwise or known as wrestlers.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's what he's trying to say, in a

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<v Speaker 2>so called independent homeland where the apartheid government relaxs rules

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<v Speaker 2>on gambling and other debauchery. No word if Pat Patterson

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<v Speaker 2>joined for My Way brother Bruce Springsteen's guitarist Stephen van

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<v Speaker 2>Zandt crafted a protest song called Sun City, an apartheid

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<v Speaker 2>related follow up to We Are the World And do

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<v Speaker 2>they Know It's Christmas? For famine relief. It's a decent tune.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost forty years later, there are parallels to the WWF

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<v Speaker 2>receiving Sheeite loads of cash from the Saudis and sportswashing

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<v Speaker 2>and those artists who played Sin City during white minority rule.

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<v Speaker 2>The foreign entertainers would take the cash, no problem and

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<v Speaker 2>look away as the nation's leaders oppressed the blacks under apartheid.

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<v Speaker 2>Insert Vin's voice, Yes, Crown Prince, your Royal highness NBS,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the gobs of cash you have given us.

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<v Speaker 1>Ha.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you can kill all your opponents and dissenters.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't mind. Just don't serve me the koshoge fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh boo.

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<v Speaker 2>So why in the holy hell would this matter to

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<v Speaker 2>the cast? I've been dealing with a significant health issue,

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<v Speaker 2>which unfortunately is terminal. Oh shit, Jack and JP, you

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<v Speaker 2>have brought many, many, greatly needed laughs as I have

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<v Speaker 2>been playing your casts while trying to deal with my health.

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<v Speaker 2>Your humor, as demented and glorious as it is, has

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<v Speaker 2>been a true gift. I've been shrinking and distributing my

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five years of photography archive and came across this

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<v Speaker 2>image and the two prints on hand. I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>one print will grace the walls of the Grand TLF

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<v Speaker 2>World Headquarters and the other can be sent to a

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<v Speaker 2>Solar System member who has any remote clue about who

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is. I haven't closed the program from the event,

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<v Speaker 2>which shows the roster of those slated to appear, including

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Austin, Diesel Doink, the Red Rooster, and Lance fucking

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<v Speaker 2>von Eric.

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<v Speaker 3>That's bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>This dude in the photograph is the then South African

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<v Speaker 2>champion Deny Britz and I shot this in the locker

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<v Speaker 2>room after the bout in which he did put in

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<v Speaker 2>the effort for the business. There we go brand the razor.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the only image that I can lay my

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<v Speaker 2>hands on from that event. The original negative from the

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<v Speaker 2>day are not yet to be unearthed. This was part

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<v Speaker 2>of a larger essay I did that year, which was

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<v Speaker 2>called Exhibit in Rotterdam.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, geez.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember much of the matches, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>recall a shameful got Bell please exchange got Bell please?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hold on, you don't really hear it, Bud.

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<v Speaker 2>Shame from Game of Thrones, right, yeah, exchange I had

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<v Speaker 2>with this worker I believe. I said it's fake, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he responded, do this blood look fake to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck off?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Which, gentlemen, if you ever feel that the cast may

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<v Speaker 2>not have value, Please know that it has often distracted

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<v Speaker 2>me from thinking about the pain that I have been enduring.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want the cast I need it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>am grateful for your artistry. Your lamentable tragedy has been

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<v Speaker 2>the journey that I have gone back to the most.

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<v Speaker 2>It is exceptional work. In two thousand and two, I

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<v Speaker 2>was working at a newspaper in East Texas, an hour

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<v Speaker 2>away from the home with the late Glen gozaque Up

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<v Speaker 2>David and the Poet Police, and covered a tiny indie

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<v Speaker 2>show in which Kevin von Eric made a surprise appearance.

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<v Speaker 2>Following the entering festivities, the promoter asked if I would

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<v Speaker 2>like him like to join him and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>boys for a drink, and I did. Greg Valentine and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Nasty Boys were there, and we're on

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<v Speaker 2>brand for their majors.

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<v Speaker 3>Were were their sisters?

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<v Speaker 2>There? No comment on that, and then we're on brand

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<v Speaker 2>for their major league Assholy in Nature, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>your efforts. It has been therapeutic to listen to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Signing off, I hope that the Majesty of Kamala, the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice President Giant, will continue to provide you wisdom and

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<v Speaker 2>the prayers of Scandar alu Akbar will please will bless

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<v Speaker 2>both of you. Chokrun Masalam and no, no, we have

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<v Speaker 2>no need for more salami for Mohammad Hassan, Tim and Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another level.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a level. Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>We're with you, We're with you in every sense of

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<v Speaker 2>the word, and we can't thank you enough. This apparently

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<v Speaker 2>is a photo taken by the gift giver of Nelson Mandela.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>One for you and one for me, authored by Tim himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Spectacular.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm humbled, seriously truly humbled, and here is just a

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<v Speaker 2>one of a kind item. July August September ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the this is the the program, the program

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<v Speaker 2>WWF wrestl Madness. It's totally it's a fraud. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not them. It's one of those made up.

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<v Speaker 3>Because like Steve Austin wasn't even in the company at

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<v Speaker 3>that time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those made up groups that would use

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<v Speaker 2>WWS trademarks and pretend these were the American wrestling stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a look at that, boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the photo of the bloody World Champion that

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<v Speaker 2>he mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, that's another remarkable gift. You guys are going to

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, what do you see? Boss? Tell the people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm okay, we have friends. What night.

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<v Speaker 1>This is born in South Africa because uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Italy was going through war or whatever, and so his

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<v Speaker 2>mother and father decided they.

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<v Speaker 3>Needed to Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they moved.

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<v Speaker 2>To South Africa and they have three or four children.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one has died, but they there are our

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<v Speaker 2>age and his name, oh his son.

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<v Speaker 3>Just got married.

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<v Speaker 2>We was supposed to go, but I have the surgery

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<v Speaker 2>of blah blah blah. Sure and uh Matthew Simoni.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was all important, and it's all important and

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<v Speaker 3>mean all these name and we knew them. Would these

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<v Speaker 3>poor people are gonna be looked up the area?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course, just to be particular. Yeah, yeh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would love to show him that sure, sure

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes sure, okay, yeah, because I don't know what he knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's where he grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow and yeah, wow. Name is Tim. He was a photographer.

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<v Speaker 2>He's from South Africa and now he lives in Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>He's apparently South Africa, or at least he spent significant

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<v Speaker 2>time there working as a photographer and got the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to photograph Nelson Mandela, which is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's unele.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh so what do you see in the program?

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, there's just one. So they they have uh profiles

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<v Speaker 3>of all the wrestlers who are on the card.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they're wrestlers, they're just pretending to be w w

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<v Speaker 2>F stars.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. So we have Diesel, there's the Matador. My favorite

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<v Speaker 3>here is the Apache Renegade, who is undefeated Native American.

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<v Speaker 3>He is making his opponents in the WWE shiver. The

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<v Speaker 3>Red the Red Indian is a is a highly skilled competitor,

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<v Speaker 3>and he has surprised many of his opponents with his

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<v Speaker 3>high flying aerial skills and his superb ring technique. Tanka

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of this, Yeah, they use a picture of

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<v Speaker 3>Tatanka doing a body press on Sean Michaels from WrestleMania nine.

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<v Speaker 3>I says name suggests he belongs in a circus rather

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<v Speaker 3>than a wrestling ring.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the difference, right, right?

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<v Speaker 3>A combetent wrestler hies under under the face paint, yet

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely the w w e's most controversial star. It's as wild.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just it's it's a this is bizarre, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, the personal touch and to know he's

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<v Speaker 2>going through health problems, it just blows blows me away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice to hear that. No, you know that we

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<v Speaker 2>give some comfort. Yes, I'm because it's so it's so low,

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<v Speaker 2>so low risk. One of our best listeners just had

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<v Speaker 2>him away. You know, you don't have you don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have to strain. You can close your eyes. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>magic of it. And that's why the audio I think

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, But you know also I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 3>to like you know, no present myself, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, be comfortable. I mean this, this wouldn't happen. I mean, Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Yes, we wish you the best this Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>and we will long cherish the gifts that you shared

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<v Speaker 2>with us from your personal collection. These are truly amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, your health to come back, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>indicate what malady you know was terminal though indeed, thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>echo that absolutely and we'll see you next Time on

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<v Speaker 2>the t LF Christmas Show.

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