Speaker 1: This is lapsed Vinstickmahn. I am aware apparently that this
Speaker 1: lapsed fan podcast, this garage based college level mediocre at
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Speaker 2: It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack and Carnaco
Speaker 2: and JP Sorrow.
Speaker 1: We've got an excited Christmas program lined up for these folks.
Speaker 1: We've been to a Little Boys this year.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's an artificial tree, so I did artificial job at
Speaker 3: trimming time.
Speaker 1: This is only exceeded by an inability to adjust hollow
Speaker 1: the outd wrangling.
Speaker 2: Here the Lapsed Fan got a price.
Speaker 1: For the million dollar Man even seven claus and.
Speaker 2: So no, say it's not so.
Speaker 3: Off.
Speaker 2: Wow, we're back. It's the TLF twenty twenty four Christmas
Speaker 2: Show and it is going down in the record books.
Speaker 2: It's the wrestling Ay three of Christmas shows.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know, I'm actually in a weird way.
Speaker 3: I'm actually surprised we haven't gotten more Vienna's.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I think we started a little too late.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe in terms of when wettributed the sid. I
Speaker 2: mean I have a can of vienna Is in my
Speaker 2: hand right d with chicken beef and pork added in
Speaker 2: chicken broth. Oh god, sounds delicious. We have to have, Like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck do you eat that way? You put
Speaker 2: on you put on crackers and you eat it like
Speaker 2: a sandwich. That's why that comes with crackers. Oh, you're
Speaker 2: not kidding.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: Good question. I've just been reading about sid and what
Speaker 2: the hell Vienna sausages are.
Speaker 3: That's the ultimate, that's the ultimate rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: But you know, I was like every other WrestleMania besides
Speaker 2: WrestleMania three can be awesome, but they can never be
Speaker 2: WrestleMania three. I suspect we'll be saying that about this
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Christmas show because we are continuing and
Speaker 2: we are blown away and we are overwhelmed here with
Speaker 2: Mama Sorrow JP as well. I'm about to open the
Speaker 2: next gift of Christmas, and I'm so glad you were.
Speaker 2: I want to open that last one, boss that works
Speaker 2: up there, and this one comes to us from the
Speaker 2: swing state of Georgia. Oh and our pal Tim Zielenbach,
Speaker 2: And I meant to ask you earlier.
Speaker 3: Are some of the gifts coming from people that you
Speaker 3: met this year because you went.
Speaker 2: To a few special Yes, yeah, yeah, sure, yep, yes,
Speaker 2: we have met several of them in person, whoa, this
Speaker 2: is quite a bit in this envelope here from Tim?
Speaker 3: What is what have we got here?
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I have everything? Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: let's start with a letter, gentlemen, co chairs. I haven't
Speaker 2: closed a pair of eleven by fourteen inch photographs I
Speaker 2: made during a July sixteenth, nineteen ninety four card at
Speaker 2: the sun City super Bowl in the Republic of South Africa.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: During the battle days of apartheid, sun City was a
Speaker 2: place where mercenaries and foreign entertainers like Frank Sinatra came
Speaker 2: to sing and collect cash.
Speaker 1: Foreign entertainers otherwise or known as wrestlers.
Speaker 2: I know that's what he's trying to say, in a
Speaker 2: so called independent homeland where the apartheid government relaxs rules
Speaker 2: on gambling and other debauchery. No word if Pat Patterson
Speaker 2: joined for My Way brother Bruce Springsteen's guitarist Stephen van
Speaker 2: Zandt crafted a protest song called Sun City, an apartheid
Speaker 2: related follow up to We Are the World And do
Speaker 2: they Know It's Christmas? For famine relief. It's a decent tune.
Speaker 2: Almost forty years later, there are parallels to the WWF
Speaker 2: receiving Sheeite loads of cash from the Saudis and sportswashing
Speaker 2: and those artists who played Sin City during white minority rule.
Speaker 2: The foreign entertainers would take the cash, no problem and
Speaker 2: look away as the nation's leaders oppressed the blacks under apartheid.
Speaker 2: Insert Vin's voice, Yes, Crown Prince, your Royal highness NBS,
Speaker 2: thank you for the gobs of cash you have given us.
Speaker 1: Ha.
Speaker 2: No, no, you can kill all your opponents and dissenters.
Speaker 2: We won't mind. Just don't serve me the koshoge fingers.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh boo.
Speaker 2: So why in the holy hell would this matter to
Speaker 2: the cast? I've been dealing with a significant health issue,
Speaker 2: which unfortunately is terminal. Oh shit, Jack and JP, you
Speaker 2: have brought many, many, greatly needed laughs as I have
Speaker 2: been playing your casts while trying to deal with my health.
Speaker 2: Your humor, as demented and glorious as it is, has
Speaker 2: been a true gift. I've been shrinking and distributing my
Speaker 2: thirty five years of photography archive and came across this
Speaker 2: image and the two prints on hand. I hope that
Speaker 2: one print will grace the walls of the Grand TLF
Speaker 2: World Headquarters and the other can be sent to a
Speaker 2: Solar System member who has any remote clue about who
Speaker 2: this guy is. I haven't closed the program from the event,
Speaker 2: which shows the roster of those slated to appear, including
Speaker 2: Steve Austin, Diesel Doink, the Red Rooster, and Lance fucking
Speaker 2: von Eric.
Speaker 3: That's bizarre.
Speaker 2: This dude in the photograph is the then South African
Speaker 2: champion Deny Britz and I shot this in the locker
Speaker 2: room after the bout in which he did put in
Speaker 2: the effort for the business. There we go brand the razor.
Speaker 2: This is the only image that I can lay my
Speaker 2: hands on from that event. The original negative from the
Speaker 2: day are not yet to be unearthed. This was part
Speaker 2: of a larger essay I did that year, which was
Speaker 2: called Exhibit in Rotterdam.
Speaker 1: Wow, geez.
Speaker 2: I don't remember much of the matches, but I do
Speaker 2: recall a shameful got Bell please exchange got Bell please?
Speaker 3: Oh hold on, you don't really hear it, Bud.
Speaker 2: Shame from Game of Thrones, right, yeah, exchange I had
Speaker 2: with this worker I believe. I said it's fake, right,
Speaker 2: and he responded, do this blood look fake to you?
Speaker 2: Fuck off?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Which, gentlemen, if you ever feel that the cast may
Speaker 2: not have value, Please know that it has often distracted
Speaker 2: me from thinking about the pain that I have been enduring.
Speaker 2: I don't want the cast I need it, and I
Speaker 2: am grateful for your artistry. Your lamentable tragedy has been
Speaker 2: the journey that I have gone back to the most.
Speaker 2: It is exceptional work. In two thousand and two, I
Speaker 2: was working at a newspaper in East Texas, an hour
Speaker 2: away from the home with the late Glen gozaque Up
Speaker 2: David and the Poet Police, and covered a tiny indie
Speaker 2: show in which Kevin von Eric made a surprise appearance.
Speaker 2: Following the entering festivities, the promoter asked if I would
Speaker 2: like him like to join him and some of the
Speaker 2: boys for a drink, and I did. Greg Valentine and
Speaker 2: one of the Nasty Boys were there, and we're on
Speaker 2: brand for their majors.
Speaker 3: Were were their sisters?
Speaker 2: There? No comment on that, and then we're on brand
Speaker 2: for their major league Assholy in Nature, thank you for
Speaker 2: your efforts. It has been therapeutic to listen to you.
Speaker 2: Signing off, I hope that the Majesty of Kamala, the
Speaker 2: Vice President Giant, will continue to provide you wisdom and
Speaker 2: the prayers of Scandar alu Akbar will please will bless
Speaker 2: both of you. Chokrun Masalam and no, no, we have
Speaker 2: no need for more salami for Mohammad Hassan, Tim and Georgia.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 2: That's another level.
Speaker 3: That's a level. Tim.
Speaker 2: We're with you, We're with you in every sense of
Speaker 2: the word, and we can't thank you enough. This apparently
Speaker 2: is a photo taken by the gift giver of Nelson Mandela.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 2: One for you and one for me, authored by Tim himself.
Speaker 1: Spectacular.
Speaker 2: I'm humbled, seriously truly humbled, and here is just a
Speaker 2: one of a kind item. July August September ninety four.
Speaker 2: This is the this is the the program, the program
Speaker 2: WWF wrestl Madness. It's totally it's a fraud. It's it's
Speaker 2: not them. It's one of those made up.
Speaker 3: Because like Steve Austin wasn't even in the company at
Speaker 3: that time.
Speaker 2: It's one of those made up groups that would use
Speaker 2: WWS trademarks and pretend these were the American wrestling stars.
Speaker 2: Take a look at that, boss.
Speaker 1: Look at that.
Speaker 2: And here's the photo of the bloody World Champion that
Speaker 2: he mentioned.
Speaker 1: Oh my.
Speaker 2: Correct, that's another remarkable gift. You guys are going to
Speaker 2: wait a minute, what do you see? Boss? Tell the people.
Speaker 3: So I'm okay, we have friends. What night.
Speaker 1: This is born in South Africa because uh.
Speaker 2: Italy was going through war or whatever, and so his
Speaker 2: mother and father decided they.
Speaker 3: Needed to Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they moved.
Speaker 2: To South Africa and they have three or four children.
Speaker 2: I think one has died, but they there are our
Speaker 2: age and his name, oh his son.
Speaker 3: Just got married.
Speaker 2: We was supposed to go, but I have the surgery
Speaker 2: of blah blah blah. Sure and uh Matthew Simoni.
Speaker 3: So it was all important, and it's all important and
Speaker 3: mean all these name and we knew them. Would these
Speaker 3: poor people are gonna be looked up the area?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, just to be particular. Yeah, yeh yeah,
Speaker 2: but I would love to show him that sure, sure
Speaker 2: sometimes sure, okay, yeah, because I don't know what he knows.
Speaker 3: But that's where he grew up.
Speaker 2: Wow and yeah, wow. Name is Tim. He was a photographer.
Speaker 2: He's from South Africa and now he lives in Georgia.
Speaker 2: He's apparently South Africa, or at least he spent significant
Speaker 2: time there working as a photographer and got the opportunity
Speaker 2: to photograph Nelson Mandela, which is incredible.
Speaker 1: That's unele.
Speaker 2: Uh so what do you see in the program?
Speaker 3: Alright, there's just one. So they they have uh profiles
Speaker 3: of all the wrestlers who are on the card.
Speaker 2: Well they're wrestlers, they're just pretending to be w w
Speaker 2: F stars.
Speaker 3: Right. So we have Diesel, there's the Matador. My favorite
Speaker 3: here is the Apache Renegade, who is undefeated Native American.
Speaker 3: He is making his opponents in the WWE shiver. The
Speaker 3: Red the Red Indian is a is a highly skilled competitor,
Speaker 3: and he has surprised many of his opponents with his
Speaker 3: high flying aerial skills and his superb ring technique. Tanka
Speaker 3: a picture of this, Yeah, they use a picture of
Speaker 3: Tatanka doing a body press on Sean Michaels from WrestleMania nine.
Speaker 3: I says name suggests he belongs in a circus rather
Speaker 3: than a wrestling ring.
Speaker 2: What's the difference, right, right?
Speaker 3: A combetent wrestler hies under under the face paint, yet
Speaker 3: he still finds time to play tricks on his opponents.
Speaker 3: Definitely the w w e's most controversial star. It's as wild.
Speaker 3: This is just it's it's a this is bizarre, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, the personal touch and to know he's
Speaker 2: going through health problems, it just blows blows me away.
Speaker 2: It's nice to hear that. No, you know that we
Speaker 2: give some comfort. Yes, I'm because it's so it's so low,
Speaker 2: so low risk. One of our best listeners just had
Speaker 2: an Oprah heart surgery and it's just he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to put it in his ear and it just takes
Speaker 2: him away. You know, you don't have you don't even
Speaker 2: have to strain. You can close your eyes. That's the
Speaker 2: magic of it. And that's why the audio I think
Speaker 2: is worth sticking to.
Speaker 3: Agreed, But you know also I don't want to have
Speaker 3: to like you know, no present myself, you.
Speaker 2: Know, be comfortable. I mean this, this wouldn't happen. I mean, Tim,
Speaker 2: thank you. Yes, we wish you the best this Christmas
Speaker 2: and we will long cherish the gifts that you shared
Speaker 2: with us from your personal collection. These are truly amazing.
Speaker 2: And uh, your health to come back, and he didn't
Speaker 2: indicate what malady you know was terminal though indeed, thanksgiving
Speaker 2: echo that absolutely and we'll see you next Time on
Speaker 2: the t LF Christmas Show.
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