Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this one. It's a story that well,
it really gets under your skin.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the deep dive. Yeah, today we're tackling
something pretty monumental. We're going deep into some really complex,
very hidden narratives.
Speaker 1: We're digging into the sources, pulling out the key pieces
for you.
Speaker 2: And today's topic it revolves around a single weekend, a
really highly suspicious weekend back in nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1: Four, a weekend that some sources claim literally altered the
course of human history. We're talking about a US president
allegedly disappearing.
Speaker 2: Right vanishing, and then supposedly holding secret meetings meetings with
non human entities.
Speaker 1: And the consequences of those alleged meetings profound. We're talking
about this incredible acceleration in technology, but also some really
heavy ethical costs.
Speaker 2: So our mission for you today is simple, but the
topic isn't. We want to give you a really solid
grasp of the foundational claims behind what sometimes called the
Grada Treaty.
Speaker 1: We need to sort through the official stores, the allegedi
wi stuff, and then think about the bigger picture, you know,
the geopolitical fallout.
Speaker 2: Especially when you're talking about a choice between well, power
and maybe peace, but when faced with something totally unknown,
something alien.
Speaker 1: We're looking at sources that aren't just telling a story.
They're claiming to explain why things are the where they
are now, why technology developed so fast, why certain secrets
are kept exactly.
Speaker 2: So, let's set the stage. The whole thing kicks off
with this core historical mystery.
Speaker 1: It's February twentieth, nineteen fifty four. Dwight D. Eisenhower IKE,
probably the most powerful man on the planet at that moment.
Speaker 2: Supreme Allied Commander in WWI, now President.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's supposed to be on a short vacation Palm Springs, California, relaxing,
and then he just vanishes, gone for a whole evening,
apparently well into the next morning, no explanation, and.
Speaker 2: The immediate reaction absolute chaos, especially in the press.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Associated Press, the AP, I mean, the biggest
newswire service. They panic.
Speaker 2: They actually ran a bullet, didn't they.
Speaker 1: They did, briefly claiming the president died a fatal heart attack.
Speaker 2: I imagine seeing that flash across the wires globally. Yeah,
the US President dead, suddenly, cold wars raging.
Speaker 1: Total pandemonium, It was pulled back like almost immediately minutes later,
but the damage, the confusion was already out there.
Speaker 2: So the White House had to scramble right. They needed
a story fast.
Speaker 1: And they came up with one. The official cover story
deceptively simple.
Speaker 2: What was it again? Something about a chip tooth.
Speaker 1: Seriously, the president supposedly chipped a two to eating chicken
eating chick can got it, needed an emergency trip to
a local dentist, doctor Francis A. Purcell.
Speaker 2: Right, a chip tooth. It sounds so mundane, doesn't it. Yeah, plausible,
easily digestible for the public, and everyday problem for the president.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Except this is where the official story starts to fray,
like almost immediately.
Speaker 2: Because reporters tried to follow up right standard procedure.
Speaker 1: Yep, they tried to find the dentist doctor Purcell, tried
to find his office, couldn't find it, at least not
where the White House said it was. Just didn't seem
to exist there.
Speaker 2: That's odd, isn't it for such a high profile patient.
Speaker 1: Very odd? But it gets worse. There's a paper trail,
or rather a lack of one.
Speaker 2: You mean the presidential health resorts exactly.
Speaker 1: The Eisenhower Library keeps meticulous records, every sniffle, every check up,
every pill prescribed. It's all documented, and you'd.
Speaker 2: Assume an emergency dental procedure would definitely be able.
Speaker 1: You would absolutely assume that. But there is nothing, zero,
no mention of any dental appointment, any treatment, any chip tooth,
nothing at all in February nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 2: So the official record directly contradicts the official story.
Speaker 1: Pretty much blows it out of the water. If the
President of the United States sits in your dental chair,
especially for an emergency, there is paperwork. It doesn't just vanish.
Speaker 2: So the cover story feels thin, like it was maybe
designed just to stop the immediate panic, not really to
hold up under close inspection.
Speaker 1: That's what the sources were looking at. Alleged, they say,
the real reason for Eisenhower's disappearance wasn't a toothache.
Speaker 2: It was a meeting, a.
Speaker 1: Feeding at Edward's Air Force Base, which was then called
Morock Army Airfield.
Speaker 2: Okay, and this wasn't just any meeting.
Speaker 1: No, allegedly the most classified, most world altering meeting in
American history, possibly human history.
Speaker 2: And that's the jumping off point. The story goes that
humanity was presented with two radically different paths that.
Speaker 1: Night, two choices offered by two very different visitors. Okay,
let's try and picture this scene. February twentieth, nineteen fifty four,
Edwards Air Force Base.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just closed off, it was reportedly under a
complete total lockdown, like nothing anyone had seen before.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about your standard based security, are we.
Speaker 2: No far beyond that. Imagine the perimeter patrolled by soldiers,
armed soldier.
Speaker 1: But these soldiers they were anonymous.
Speaker 2: Completely stripped of all identifying marks, no name tapes on
their uniforms, no rank, insignia and nothing.
Speaker 1: Just faceless guards.
Speaker 2: Why Plausible deniability ensures that no one could ever definitively
say yes, Sergeant Smith from this unit. Was there absolute secrecy?
They were protecting something incredibly sensitive.
Speaker 1: And who was inside this ultra secure perimeter A very small,
very elite group, the highest levels, think joint chiefs of staff,
top scientists, people from Caltech, mitkey establishment figures, and this
group they later got a codename.
Speaker 2: Right, Majestic twelve MJ twelve. That's the name that comes
up again and again in these sources and This.
Speaker 1: Wasn't some official committee set up by.
Speaker 2: Congress, Absolutely not. The claim is it was this self created,
self perpetuating body, unelected, designed specifically to handle this non
human situation, operating completely in the shadows, outside of any
democratic oversight.
Speaker 1: A true shadow government born out of perceived necessity.
Speaker 2: That's the allegation. And we even have an alleged eyewitness
account from someone named Gerald Light, a writer, a researcher.
Speaker 1: What did he say.
Speaker 2: He'd described going through what he called extreme security measures,
that he was vetted for six straight hours before they
even let him near the restricted area.
Speaker 1: Six hours. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He talked about the atmosphere, insight, intense fear, but
also this overwhelming sense of anticipation. He wrote that once
they finally got into the secure hangar, the world felt
different changed.
Speaker 1: Okay, So into this incredibly tense, secure environment, the first
group arrives.
Speaker 2: Patha PATHA the offer of enlightenment. This is supposedly presented
by beings who later got nicknamed the Nordics.
Speaker 1: And their arrival, how is that described?
Speaker 2: Pretty dramatic. Two lights appear in the sky. They resolve
into the circular craft made of polished silver, completely smooth, seamless,
no visible seams, no rivets holding them together, no doors
you could see, no windows, just perfectly smooth.
Speaker 1: Silent craft, silent landing too.
Speaker 2: Completely silent, defying physics as we knew it then and
frankly now then rams extended. Yeah, intense white light poured out.
Witnesses apparently said the air shimmered, but weirdly the temperature
dropped noticeably cold.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the beings themselves.
Speaker 2: Nordics striking descriptions. Yeah, tall thin figures, pale skin almost
like it was glowing, very distinct long blonde hair.
Speaker 1: Hence the nickname Nordics.
Speaker 2: I guess exactly. There were simple one piece suits, silver colored.
And their communication this is key.
Speaker 1: How did they communicate?
Speaker 2: Not verbally, no, purely telepathic? But it wasn't just like
hearing thoughts. It was described as more immersive, like a warm,
harmonic resonance directly in the mind.
Speaker 1: That sounds intense.
Speaker 2: Overwhelming, apparently especially for human minds not used to that
kind of direct, dense information transfer. But it was described
as engaging, not hostile, warm.
Speaker 1: Even And what were they offering this path?
Speaker 2: A basically paradise on Earth, a genuine golden age for
humanity like what specifically, unlimited clean energy, free energy, essentially
the end of all known diseases, human life spans stretching
past three hundred years, and end to poverty, war suffering,
all of it.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's utopian. They offered the keys to becoming what
a type one civilization, peaceful, advanced.
Speaker 2: That seems to be the implication, a complete transformation.
Speaker 1: Okay, but there's always a catch, right. What was the
price for this utopia?
Speaker 2: A big one, A complete deal breaker for many, especially
back then. They demanded total nuclear disarmament, all of it, everywhere.
Every single nuclear weapon had to be dismantled immediately. No
negotiation on that point.
Speaker 1: Why. What was their reasoning?
Speaker 2: They saw humanity basically as a child playing with a
loaded gun, technologically advanced enough to create these terrible weapons,
but not mature enough to handle them responsibly. They believed
we were on a path to self destruction.
Speaker 1: Okay, pause here. That offer unlimited free energy. Think about
the implication.
Speaker 2: Oh massive, It wouldn't just end energy scarcity, it would
instantly dismantle the entire global economic system.
Speaker 1: Right, oil, coal, natural gas. The whole post war economy
was built on control rolling those resources. Free energy makes
that obsolete overnight.
Speaker 2: It collapses the existing geopolitical order, which was largely driven
by resource competition and the industries built around it.
Speaker 1: So the Nordic offer, while sounding amazing, wasn't just about
giving up weapons. It was about fundamentally restructuring global power
and economics based purely on trust in these beings.
Speaker 2: Exactly a huge leap of faith, and it carried immense
immediate risk, totally separate from the disarmament aspect. You'd be
crippling your own established economic engine on their promise.
Speaker 1: And they gave a warning, too, didn't.
Speaker 2: They a crucial one. They explicitly warned Eisenhower about another
alien race, a second group. They said, we're already here,
operating secretly on Earth.
Speaker 1: And what did they say about this other group?
Speaker 2: They described them as parasitic. And they predicted this second
group would make a different offer, not enlightenment, but power weapons,
things the Nordics wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Provide, but at a much higher cost, a.
Speaker 2: Much higher hidden cost. They urged Eisenhower to stay away,
not to engage with them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's patha enlightenment peace, but requiring disarmament and
massive economic upheaval based on trust, and then.
Speaker 2: Just as the Nordic supposedly warned, the second group showed up.
How long after sources say about two months later, and
this leads to path be the offer of power.
Speaker 1: From the beings we now commonly call the Grays.
Speaker 2: Right, and the contrast apparently could have been more dramatic.
Everything was different the craft first, totally different, not polished silver.
This was described as a dull, matt gray metal, almost
like it absorbed light rather than reflected.
Speaker 1: It, so visually distinct, and the.
Speaker 2: Feeling it gave off described as menacing, functional, built for
a purpose, and that purpose seemed like war or utility,
not exploration or diplomacy.
Speaker 1: Any shimmering light or silent landing this time.
Speaker 2: No sources mention a low pulsating hum, something you felt
in your chest more than heard. And the air inside
the craft very different, also then cold, with its distinct
smell ozone and copper metallic chemical.
Speaker 1: Not exactly welcomed, not at all, and.
Speaker 2: Some witnesses describe the interior as unsettling walls that weren't static.
They supposedly rippled, sometimes shifted subtly.
Speaker 1: They rippled like the ship was alive.
Speaker 2: That was the implication in some accounts, maybe cybernetic may
be partly organic, not just inert metal, okay.
Speaker 1: And the beings themselves, the Grays.
Speaker 2: These are the classic image, aren't they. Small stature maybe
four feet tall on average, smooth gray skin.
Speaker 1: The huge heads, the black eyes.
Speaker 2: Exactly massive bald heads, enormous black almond shaped eyes with
no visible pupils, thin arms and legs, no obvious mounds
in many descriptions.
Speaker 1: And their movement.
Speaker 2: Mechanical, robotic, not the fluid Grays sometimes ascribed to the Nordics,
just efficient, maybe jerky movements.
Speaker 1: Communication still telepathic.
Speaker 2: Yes, telepathic again, but the quality was totally different. Not
warm resonance. This was cold, clinical, like pure data transfer.
Speaker 1: A transaction, not a conversation.
Speaker 2: That's how it's often described. No empathy felt, just information exchange,
cold hard data.
Speaker 1: Did they agree with the Nordics about humanity's future?
Speaker 2: They apparently did agree we were heading for trouble, maybe extinction.
But their solution wasn't about spiritual growth or disarmament.
Speaker 1: It was about power, the survival through strength.
Speaker 2: Precisely, their offer was geared towards immediate technological supremacy, especially
in the context of the Cold War.
Speaker 1: What kind of tech did they offer.
Speaker 2: Game changing stuff? Technology that would leadprog the US maybe
a century ahead of everyone else, including the Soviets, Like
what zero point energy, tapping energy from the quantum vacuum itself,
anti gravity propulsion systems, advanced stealth far beyond anything conceivable then.
And weapons, Oh yeah, particle being weapons the ultimate strategic advantage,
basically the tools to guarantee global domination and win the
Cold War hands down.
Speaker 1: Okay, compelling offer for a leader worried about Soviet.
Speaker 2: Capabilities, extremely compelling. But the Grays, unlike the Nordics, weren't
asking for disarmament. They were asking for something else entirely.
Speaker 1: What was their price?
Speaker 2: It was steep and pretty insidious. First, they wanted secret,
completely unrestricted access to huge areas of federal land.
Speaker 1: For what purpose, To build.
Speaker 2: Deep underground bases, dumbs, hidden complexes where they could operate
without any public or congressional scrutiny.
Speaker 1: Okay, land access, what else?
Speaker 2: This is the chilling part. They also demanded secret unrestricted
access to the human population, access for what biological study?
They wanted to conduct research on humans? Abduction, abductions. They
actually proposed abducting American citizens.
Speaker 1: That's the core of the alleged agreement. But they supposedly
made promises about it.
Speaker 2: What kind of promises? They claimed The abductions would be
totally harmless, painless, the subject's memories would be wiped clean
so they wouldn't even know what happened.
Speaker 1: And they offered accountability sort of.
Speaker 2: They gearanteed they would provide the government, specifically Majestic twelve,
with a complete list of every single person they abducted,
full transparency, they claimed between them and MJ twelve.
Speaker 1: So there it is. The two paths laid bare.
Speaker 2: Path a enlightenment peace, but requires disarming and trusting strangers,
potentially leaving you vulnerable to known enemies.
Speaker 1: Path B unrivaled power, guaranteed survival against the Soviets, but
requires a secret pact with these cold beings and allowing
them to experiment on your own population.
Speaker 2: The ultimate crossroads idealism versus pragmatism, keys versus power.
Speaker 1: So this alleged choice, it's the absolute core of this
whole narrative, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It really is. You have Eisenhower, a military man through
and through a pragmatist. He's leading the US at the
absolute height of cold war tension.
Speaker 1: Soviet nuclear capability is growing, fear of annihilation is real
palpable exactly.
Speaker 2: So He's presented these two options. Option A, trust these
benevolent seeming Nordics give up your ultimate weapon. Hope they're
telling the truth. And hope the Soviets don't take advantage.
Speaker 1: Which sounds incredibly risky from a military perspective.
Speaker 2: Hugely risky. Or auction B. Take the deal from the Grays.
Get technology that guarantees you win the Cold War, guarantees
Americans survival and dominance.
Speaker 1: But you have to make this dark pact. You have
to allow these abductions, you have to keep this massive secret.
Speaker 2: So face with that choice in that specific historical moment,
the sources claim Eisenhower chose power.
Speaker 1: He chose the Grays.
Speaker 2: Yes. The Nordic offer demanding unilateral disarmament was reportedly seen
as just too idealistic, too naive, maybe even dangerous given
the Soviet threat.
Speaker 1: The Gray offer role Morley Dubious offered a concrete, immediate
advantage survival, dominance, and.
Speaker 2: The deal, according to the story, wasn't signed on paper,
there was no ceremony.
Speaker 1: How is it sealed then telepathically.
Speaker 2: Mine to mine in that cold, humming, possibly living gray craft,
a silent mental.
Speaker 1: And the consequences started immediately instantly.
Speaker 2: According to the sources, the Grays allegedly began work right
away on the infrastructure they needed.
Speaker 1: The deep underground military bases, the dumvs.
Speaker 2: Exactly facilities hidden deep beneath federal land, far from prying eyes, Congress,
the public, even future presidents who might not be read in.
Speaker 1: How could they possibly build these massive underground complexes so
quickly and secretly?
Speaker 2: Alien technology that was part of the deal. The sources
talk about huge tunneling.
Speaker 1: Machines, not just big drills, no.
Speaker 2: Something far more advanced, machines that could literally melt solid
rock into a kind of volcanic glass, vitrifying the tunnel
walls as they went melting rock laser or plasma technology.
Presumably this method would be incredibly fast, relatively quiet compared
to conventional drilling and blasting, and it would leave behind
a smooth, sealed tunnel, minimizing the need to haul out
tons of debray.
Speaker 1: Leaving them to carve out huge caverns levels deep underground, where.
Speaker 2: Primarily the sources mentioned locations beneath the deserts of the
American Southwest, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, remote areas with secure
military installations already nearby.
Speaker 1: And the logistics funding moving materials.
Speaker 2: Allegedly funded through black budgets, deeply classified military spending, completely
hidden from normal oversight, logistics handled through compartmentalized military channels,
meaning very few people knew the whole picture, only their
specific small.
Speaker 1: Part, protecting the secret at all costs absolutely.
Speaker 2: And the prime example always cited in these narratives is
the base at Dulce in New Mexico, Gultcha.
Speaker 1: That name comes up a lot, it does.
Speaker 2: Construction supposedly began there on a massive facility seven levels deep,
according to some.
Speaker 1: Accounts, seven levels underground.
Speaker 2: That's huge, monumental, and with specific security protocols. The claim
is that the lowest level, level seven, was completely off
limits to humans, reserved in entirely for the Grays.
Speaker 1: Level seven the Gray's private domain deep underground for their
most secret work.
Speaker 2: That's the allegation, their core research, their biological work, whatever,
they didn't want their human partners to see.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the bases are being built, the technology transfer
is presumably starting, But what about the other side of
the bargain the abductions.
Speaker 2: This is where the deal allegedly went sour almost immediately.
The Grays didn't wait. Abductions reportedly started right away.
Speaker 1: Where how people.
Speaker 2: Taken from cars on lonely highways, snatched from remote campsites,
even taken directly from their bids at night.
Speaker 1: So much for harmless and painless exactly.
Speaker 2: And remember that promise about providing lists of abductees to Majestic.
Speaker 1: Twelve, Yeah, for accountability.
Speaker 2: Well MJ twelve supposedly started receiving these lists, but very
quickly they realized something was wrong, seriously wrong.
Speaker 1: The numbers didn't match, not even close.
Speaker 2: Reports started filtering up through intelligence channels, missing persons reports,
anecdotal accounts jesting the actual number of people disappearing. Those
far far higher than what the Grays were admitting to.
How much higher, some sources claim ten times higher. For
every one name the Grays put on their list, maybe
ten other people were actually being taken.
Speaker 1: So the Grays were just completely ignoring the terms of
the treaty, using the list as a token gesture.
Speaker 2: It appears so, according to these accounts, they were massively
exceeding the agreed upon quota treating the human population as
an open resource, exploiting.
Speaker 1: The pact and the promise of the procedures being harmless.
Speaker 2: Painless memory wiped another lie. Allegedly, people who did remember something,
maybe through nightmares, flashbacks, or sometimes hypnosis used to recover
repressed memories. They described terrifying experiences.
Speaker 1: Not simple medical exams.
Speaker 2: Far from it. Invasive, painful procedures, surgical interventions often focused
on reproductive systems, tissue sampling implants things that caused real
physical and psychological trauma.
Speaker 1: Completely contradicts the harmless study they promised utterly.
Speaker 2: It points towards something much darker, not just study, but utilization, harvesting,
experimentation on a massive scale, a fundamental violation of the agreement.
Speaker 1: So majestic twelve, They realized they'd been duped, that the
Grays were predatory.
Speaker 2: They must have. They had the lists, they had the
incoming reports. They knew the Grays were lying and exceeding
the terms.
Speaker 1: So why didn't they stop it? Why didn't they expose
the Grays?
Speaker 2: Because they were trapped. They'd already made the deal. They
were benefiting from the technology, the weapons, the energy sources.
Revealing the grays betrayal meant revealing the entire.
Speaker 1: Program, exposing the existence of aliens, the treaty, the secret bases,
the abductions, everything.
Speaker 2: The potential for global panic was immense. Plus think about
the Cold War angle. If they admitted this, wouldn't the
Soviets try to exploit the chaos or maybe even try
to make their own deal.
Speaker 1: So MJ twelve was stuck. They created this shadow structure
to manage.
Speaker 2: The secret, and now that structure was both reaping the
rewards of the technology and unwillingly enabling the Gray's predatory
actions against the very population they were supposed to protect.
They became wardens of a secret they couldn't control. And
this is the really disturbing connection. The sources make. The
price for that incredible technological leapfrogging the US experienced was
allegedly paid in human biology access to the population.
Speaker 1: So every transistor, every stealth bomber potentially linked back to
the secret exploitative treaty.
Speaker 2: That's the chilling implication. The technology exchange wasn't free. It
started bearing fruit very quickly, though, regardless of the cost.
Speaker 1: Within a decade of nineteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Four, Yeah, the pace of technological change becomes well, some
say impossible by conventional standards.
Speaker 1: Think about it, What kind of things are we talking about?
Speaker 2: The absolute fundamentals of modern tech start appearing or rapidly accelerating.
Integrated circuits the basis of all modern electronics.
Speaker 1: Suddenly they're viable, computers shrinking from giant room sized.
Speaker 2: Thing down to death top size eventually, huge leaps in
material science, fiber optics for communication, super strong lightweight alloys
used in aerospace.
Speaker 1: And those weird materials shape memory allies.
Speaker 2: Exactly, stuff that you can crupple up and it just
springs back to its original shape instantly, like the descriptions
of debris found at Roswell years.
Speaker 1: Earlier, suggesting maybe they weren't inventing this stuff from scratch,
but reverse engineering.
Speaker 2: That's the strong suggestion, reverse engineering technology or materials provided
by the Grays or recovered from crash craft. It implies
a nonlinear, non human source for these rapid advancements.
Speaker 1: So the official narrative is steady, incremental progress. But this
alternative narrative suggests massive leaps forward fueled by an alien pact.
Speaker 2: Leaps forward in technology, while American citizens were allegedly disappearing
at an alarming rate to facilitate.
Speaker 1: It, which inevitably leads us to the people who claim
they were on the inside, the whistleblowers, people.
Speaker 2: Who say they worked within this secret world saw the
truth and tried to warn us, and often paid a
very high price.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Phil Schneider. Who was he? Not just
some random guy.
Speaker 2: Right, definitely not. He was a geologist, a structural engineer.
He held high level security clearances. His job, he claimed,
was helping to build these deep underground military bases.
Speaker 1: So he was literally involved in the construction, a contractor
for the dumb system.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That it was his claim, and his testimony is, well,
it's incredibly detailed and deeply disturbing.
Speaker 1: What's his most famous claim the Dulce incident.
Speaker 2: Yes, the alleged firefight at Dulce in nineteen seventy nine.
He said his engineering team was drilling deep underground, thousands
of feet down, using these advanced, possibly alien derived laser
drills to expand the.
Speaker 1: Base, and they broke through into somewhere they shouldn't have.
Speaker 2: Exactly, they accidentally breached a cavern, a section that wasn't
on any of the blueprints given to the human cruise.
It was supposedly a hidden unauthorized gray.
Speaker 1: Area, A nesting area, he called.
Speaker 2: It's the term he used, and what he claimed they
found inside it confirmed the absolute worst fears about the Grays.
Speaker 1: What did he see?
Speaker 2: He described the cabin as being filled with alien equipment,
but also thousands of Grays, adults and what looked like
infants are developing Grays held in some kind of incubation tanks.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's already terrifying.
Speaker 2: But it gets worse. The detail that haunted him, the
detail that sealed the betrayal in his mind. He claimed
he saw human parts floating in those tanks.
Speaker 1: Human parts, yes.
Speaker 2: And evidence of human alien hybrid beings in various stages
of development, jars with human tissue limbs.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So his conclusion wasn't just study or
even simple abduction.
Speaker 2: It was harvesting, large scale biological harvesting and horrific experimentation
using humans as raw material.
Speaker 1: And what happened when they made this discovery?
Speaker 2: All hell broke loose. A firefight erupted instantly, human security
forces with pistols and rifles against Grays with energy weapons.
Speaker 1: Energy weapons. What did did he describe?
Speaker 2: He described a weapon that emitted a blast of energy
felt like intense microwave heat. It could apparently vaporize flesh
and melt rock. He claimed he managed to shoot and
kill two of the grays with his side.
Speaker 1: Arm, but he had hit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was hit by one of these energy blasts.
It burned the fingers clean off his left hand, tore
a large hole in his chest. He showed the scars
publicly later.
Speaker 1: How did he survive?
Speaker 2: He said a Green Beret saved him, pushed him onto
an elevator lift just as the doors closed, while the
beret stayed behind a fight. Schneider claimed sixty six human
scientists security died in that battle.
Speaker 1: Sixty six people killed in an underground firefight with aliens.
Speaker 2: That was his testimony. He claimed he was one of
only three human survivors from that specific incident. His account
painted the nineteen fifty four treaty not as a partnership
but as a horrifying surrender to a predatory species using
Earth as a lab.
Speaker 1: And Schneider went public with this yes.
Speaker 2: In the years before his death, he gave lectures, showed
his scars, shared documents claimed were proof he knew he
was putting himself in danger.
Speaker 1: Okay, then there's William Cooper. Another major figure.
Speaker 2: Bill Cooper, former Naval Intelligence. He claims he'd personally seen
top secret documents during his service, Documents that laid out
the whole story. What kind of documents, briefing papers detailing
Majestic twelve, the history of UFO sidings, crashed discs, and crucially,
the treaty with the Grace.
Speaker 1: Did he corroborate Schneider's claims about the terms.
Speaker 2: Yes, and added more detail. He talked about Projects Sigma,
an alleged program starting back in nineteen fifty three before
the Eisenhower meeting, US astronomers supposedly detected large intelligently controlled
objects moving towards Earth, confirmation that someone.
Speaker 1: Was coming, so the government knew aliens were arriving even
before that alleged Edward's meeting.
Speaker 2: That was Cooper's assertion. He detailed the Gray's demands in
the treaty, non interference from the US government, absolute secrecy,
permission to take biological samples. He believed the Grays weren't partners,
they were invaders preparing for a takeoff.
Speaker 1: He was very outspoken, wasn't He had a radio show.
Speaker 2: Yes hour of the time, and he used it to
make some incredibly specific and ultimately chilling predictions.
Speaker 1: The nine to eleven prediction, that's.
Speaker 2: The one that really stands out. On June twenty eighth,
two thousand and one, weeks before nine to eleven, he
went on air and predicted a major terrorist attack was
imminent on US soil.
Speaker 1: He just predicted an attack, or more.
Speaker 2: Much more specific he said it would be a false
flag operation designed to look like a foreign attack, and
that it would be blamed specifically on Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 1: Wow blaming Bin Laden weeks before it happened exactly.
Speaker 2: He claimed it would be used to justify curtailing civil
liberties and expanding government power, furthering the agenda of the
shadow government he believes was running things.
Speaker 1: And then nine to eleven happened pretty much as he
described it.
Speaker 2: Did, And after nine eleven, Cooper stated very publicly that
he fully expected to be killed for what he knew
and what he'd predicted. He said they wouldn't arrest him,
they'd kill him.
Speaker 1: And what happened to him.
Speaker 2: A few weeks later, in November two thousand and one,
he was killed in a shootout with sheriff's deputies at
his home in Arizona. They were attempting to serve a
warrant related to alleged tax evasion and assault charges.
Speaker 1: A shootout over a tax warrant. That sounds convenient maybe?
Speaker 2: It certainly raised a lot of questions, especially given his
recent predictions and his claims that he expected to be silenced.
Speaker 1: So you have Schneider and Cooper both claiming inside knowledge,
both exposing this alleged treaty and its horrific consequences, both
predicting their own.
Speaker 2: Deaths, and both subsequently dying under very suspicious circumstances. Schneider's
death in nineteen ninety six was officially ruled a suicide
by strangulation using a cather tube wrapped around his neck,
something many investigators found highly improbable given his physical injuries,
including missing fingers.
Speaker 1: It's a pattern that's hard to ignore, isn't it very hard?
Speaker 2: And they weren't the only ones. Remember Gerald Light, the
writer allegedly at the nineteen fifty four meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one vetted for six hours.
Speaker 2: His letter describing the event specifically named other high profilestas
ablishment figures he claimed were there. Cardinal McIntyre from the
Catholic Church Franklin Allen from the Hirst newspaper.
Speaker 1: Empire, and doctor Edwin Norris.
Speaker 2: Yes, doctor Edwin Norris, who had been President Truman's chief
economic advisor, a very well connected individual.
Speaker 1: And there were other alleged events too, not just Edwards.
Speaker 2: Sources mention another supposed meeting, this one more public or
at least semi public, Holloman Air Force Base nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 1: What supposedly happened there?
Speaker 2: Allegedly Air Force one landed. Eisenhower got out and greeted
beings who descended from a landed craft, maybe shook hands,
boarded their ship briefly in front of around three hundred witnesses.
Speaker 1: Three hundred witnesses saw Eisenhower meet aliens.
Speaker 2: Mostly military personnel, and their families stationed at the base,
according to the story, but the incident was immediately classified,
hushed up, witnesses debriefed and sworn to secrecy. Another layer
of alleged interaction ruthlessly concealed.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if we even entertained this narrative for a moment,
the implications spread way beyond just uf secret bases, don't they.
Speaker 2: Absolutely It starts to connect to the very fabric of
power structures we do know exist. Remember doctor Edwin.
Speaker 1: Norris, Yeah, Truman's economic guy, allegedly at the nineteen fifty
four Edwards meeting.
Speaker 2: Well, doctor Norris was also a key figure at a
very influential think tank, the Brookings Institution.
Speaker 1: Okay, Brookings, highly respected, does a lot of government related research.
What's the Connection?
Speaker 2: The Connection is a famous report Brookings published in nineteen
sixty one. Officially, it was about the long term implications
of space exploration.
Speaker 1: But it had a section that caused a stir.
Speaker 2: A huge stir, especially in euphology circles. Later on, a
specific section dealt with the potential consequences of discovering intelligent
extraterrestrial life.
Speaker 1: What did it say?
Speaker 2: It explicitly warned that discovering ets, especially advanced ones, could
cause major social upheaval I think, economic disruption, challenges to
religious beliefs, potential societal collapse if the ets were vastly
superior or indifferent to us.
Speaker 1: So Brookings was worried about panic.
Speaker 2: Essentially, yes, the report recommended that the government should carefully
consider the implications before disclosing any such discovery. It strongly
implied that secrecy might actually be necessary to maintain social order.
Speaker 1: And this report comes out just a few years after
this alleged treaty, co authored by an institutional link to
someone supposedly at the meeting.
Speaker 2: It's hard not to see a potential link, isn't It
Was Brookings just speculating wildly, or were they perhaps grappling
with the known reality or the alleged reality of ET
contact and trying to figure out how to manage the fallout.
It makes that section read very differently, it really does.
Speaker 1: It sounds less hypothetical and more like contingency planning for
something they knew was real.
Speaker 2: Which brings us to another really pivotal historical moment, one
that's often quoted but maybe not fully understood in this context.
Speaker 1: Eisenhower's Farewell Address nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 2: Exactly his final speech to the nation as president.
Speaker 1: Most people remember the warning about the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2: Right, But think about who was giving that warning. Dwight D. Eisenhower,
five star General, Supreme Allied Commander in Europe. He was
the military establishment in many ways.
Speaker 1: So why would he warn against the very thing he represented?
Speaker 2: That's the question. Was he just generally concerned about defense
spending getting out of hand, or.
Speaker 3: Was it something more specific, more personal, especially considering the
timing just after the Brookings report and at the end
of a presidency that, according to these sources, began with
this secret alien Pact.
Speaker 2: Look at his specific words. He didn't just warn about
the NIC in general terms. He warned against the acquisition
of unwarranted influence by.
Speaker 1: It unwarranted influence meaning influence it shouldn't have, that wasn't
democratically granted.
Speaker 2: Precisely, And he warned about the disastrous rise of misplaced power,
power held in the wrong hands outside of constitutional checks
and balances.
Speaker 1: Okay, now connect that back to Majestic twelve.
Speaker 2: If MJ twelve was real as described, an unelected, self
appointed group managing a alien secrets and technology completely outside
of public or congressional view.
Speaker 1: That sounds exactly like unwarranted influence and misplaced power, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: It fits the description perfectly. A shadow structure created for
national security, now potentially operating beyond the control of even
the President who allegedly sanctioned its creation, and.
Speaker 1: The alien technology itself, the stuff from the Grays zero
point energy anti gravity particle beams. Where would that technology go.
Speaker 2: Straight into the defense industry, into the heart of the
military industrial complex. It would fuel its growth exponentially.
Speaker 1: Creating a feedback loop. The MIC needs the secret alien
tech to maintain its edge, and the secrecy requires the
miic's infrastructure and power.
Speaker 2: To protect it, exactly an insatiable complex dependent on the
continuation of the secret pact, constantly demanding more resources, more secrecy,
more power.
Speaker 1: So the big question becomes was Eisenhower's farewell warning just
a general caution about runaway military spending.
Speaker 2: Or with something much more profound? Was it his final
coded confession, a desperate, veiled warning about the specific deal
he allegedly made back in nineteen.
Speaker 1: Fifty four, a warning that the pact with the Grays
made for Survival had unleashed this uncontrollable shadow entity, this MIC,
fueled by alien tech that now threatened the very democracy
he was sworn to protect.
Speaker 2: That interpretation makes the speech resonate on a much deeper,
darker level. It suggests the cost of the Grays technology
wasn't just abductions, It was the very soul of the republic,
creating a power structure that operated by its own rules.
Speaker 1: A structure maybe even he couldn't rain in. By the
end of his presidency.
Speaker 2: That's the chilling possibility that the disastrous rise of misplaced
power was a direct consequence of his own decision years earlier.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So, stepping back from the specifics, this entire narrative,
whether you believe it's literal fact or an elaborate myth,
it forces you to confront a really fundamental question about us,
about humanity.
Speaker 2: It really does. It presents this dark choice path a
idealism enlightenment piece, but it requires vulnerability, disarmament, trusting.
Speaker 1: The unknown path b pragmatism. Power guaranteed survival against immediate threats,
but it requires secrecy, moral compromise, dealing with potentially dangerous.
Speaker 2: Entities when faced with that kind of pressure, that kind
of existential threat, like the Cold War, seemed at the time,
which path does humanity naturally gravitate towards?
Speaker 1: The sources presenting the story argue the choice was almost inevitable.
Pragmatism one fear.
Speaker 2: One trusting the Nordics, disarming based on their promise while
the Soviets were building bombs. It seemed like suicide to
the military mind. Collapsing the global economy based on their
promise of free energy unthinkable.
Speaker 1: Choosing the Grays, getting the weapons, securing dominance. That felt
like the only practical way to survive, even with the
terrible moral cost.
Speaker 2: It suggests our fear of known enemies, our fear of vulnerability,
might be stronger than our desire for us lightenment, especially
when that enlightenment comes with risk. Fear of the Soviets
seemingly dictated the choice made regarding the aliens hashtag tag outro.
Speaker 1: So wrapping this up, What does this all mean for
you listening right now? We've walked through quite a story here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We started with that suspicious weekend in nineteen fifty four,
Eisenhower's disappearance, the flimsy.
Speaker 1: Dentist story, then the alleged meeting at Edward's. The two
PABs offered the Nordic's enlightenment versus the Gray's.
Speaker 2: Power, the alleged choice for power, the deal for technology
in exchange for access to land and people, the building
of the dumbs like Dulce.
Speaker 1: And the immediate betrayal the abductions, far exceeding the agreement.
The horrific experience is reported.
Speaker 2: Leading to the whistleblower Schneider Cooper their terrifying claims about dulce,
the harvesting the nine to eleven prediction and their suspicious deaths.
Speaker 1: We connected it to the Brookings Report, hinting at managing
the social impact of ET discovery.
Speaker 2: And finally re examining Eisenhower's farewell address. Was it a
general warning or a coded confession about the military industrial
complex fueled by a secret he could no longer control?
Speaker 1: The whole narrative true or not? Holds up a mirror,
doesn't it? It reflects this tendency maybe inherent in us,
to grab for immediate power for guaranteed security, even if
the long term cost is devastating or morally compromising.
Speaker 2: The fear of being vulnerable might outweigh the hope for
a better world, especially if that better world requires trust
and disarmament. The story suggests we prioritize dominance over peace
when we feel threatened.
Speaker 1: Which leaves us with that final provocative thought. Let's play
Devil's advocate for a second. What if the choice had
been different?
Speaker 2: If Eisenhower had trusted the Nordics, if he'd agreed to
dismantle the nukes, banking everything on their promise of a
golden age.
Speaker 1: Would we actually be living in that utopia now, limitless energy,
no disease, long lives.
Speaker 2: Or would a disarmed world, naive and trusting have simply
become easy prey, not necessarily for the grays maybe, but
for some other threat human or otherwise.
Speaker 1: Would choosing peace have just made us defenseless? Was the pragmatic,
albeit dark choice for power the only way humanity could
have survived, even if it meant creating these shadows.
Speaker 2: It's something to really chew on, isn't it, especially as
you look around today see the incredible pace of technological
change and maybe wonder what's really driving it all and
what secrets might still be hidden.
Speaker 1: Definitely something to ponder.
Speaker 2: Until our next deep dive. Keep questioning, keep looking deeper,
especially at power that operates unseen.
Speaker 1: Always thanks for listening,