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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Iconic Studio, a at proven winners

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me, Rick Weist,

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<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the fun things to do is impulsively buy some plants,

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<v Speaker 1>not knowing where they're going to go, and the next

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<v Speaker 1>scene you're walking around your yard with a plant in

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<v Speaker 1>one hand a shovel in the other, wondering where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put that plant. Many of these plants eventually

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<v Speaker 1>have to move. Fall is a great time of the

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<v Speaker 1>year to move these plants. I say bust to Move

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<v Speaker 1>and bust to Move was a big hit song. It

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<v Speaker 1>means to boogie or hit the road, leave someplace hastily.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hip hop genre nineteen eighty nine Young MC

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<v Speaker 1>and I loved Uncandy in the movie Uncle Buck when

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<v Speaker 1>he dances to bust to Move. But regardless of that,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many reasons to move plants this time of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, but the number one reason to move a plant,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, is usually because it's planted too close

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<v Speaker 1>to the house, or it's being shaded by a tree

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<v Speaker 1>or another plant. The goal in moving plants is to

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<v Speaker 1>move a plant to a better location and minimize root loss.

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<v Speaker 1>You provide optimal conditions for regrowth, so the ROI return

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<v Speaker 1>on investment is good. Because if you don't move them,

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<v Speaker 1>odds are you will have to remove them. So why

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<v Speaker 1>not take a chance and bust a move. Many plants

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<v Speaker 1>in my landscape Stacey are eligible for frequent Flyer miles.

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<v Speaker 1>They've moved so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think that there is a assumption out

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<v Speaker 2>there among people who don't really garden or plants a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>that gardeners just get everything right the first time, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is definitely not what happens. I have been a

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<v Speaker 2>gardener for many years. I've known many gardeners, I have

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<v Speaker 2>worked for many landscape designers, and I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that a garden is never a you know, set it

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<v Speaker 2>and forget it kind of thing. It is the way

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<v Speaker 2>I see my garden, I've finally come to realize, is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a never ending audition. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you are looking at the you're casting the characters in

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<v Speaker 2>your garden and figuring out where they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>set and what the scene is going to be, and

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<v Speaker 2>and that never really ends. You know, you do have

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<v Speaker 2>to keep a critical eye. And the fact is that

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<v Speaker 2>most plants can actually withstand being moved pretty well. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it will set them back, that is true. Some plants

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<v Speaker 2>can deal with it better than others. But overall, most

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<v Speaker 2>plants they're pretty okay being moved. And if you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be happier if that plan is moved for

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<v Speaker 2>an of the reasons that you just mentioned, or just

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<v Speaker 2>because you just think it should be at another place.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what happens to me a lot is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get something, I put it in the garden, I

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<v Speaker 2>get to know it, I start seeing, you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>it really grows, because the way it looks in the

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<v Speaker 2>container isn't necessarily representative of how it's actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>be when it's in the ground, and I start to say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh gee, well that would be better with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>combined with this plant, or I really need more of

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<v Speaker 2>this color in this part of my garden, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to move some things around. And any of those

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<v Speaker 2>are perfectly valid reasons to move stuff around.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I mean, we can debate timing, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>rarely failed at moving a plant late in the season

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<v Speaker 1>in fall, in October November. Maybe in some cases it's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not the best thing to do, but again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>better than removing the plant all together and moving it

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<v Speaker 1>to a better spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd add, very often better than trying to prune it

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<v Speaker 2>exactly to get it to fit into that spot. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's people's first instinct often is I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>cut this. But there are many plants that don't respond

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<v Speaker 2>well to pruning or where all of the printing you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to need to do is going to disfigure the plant,

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<v Speaker 2>and you should just you know, kind of do what

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be done and move it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. So move them at this time of

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<v Speaker 1>the year because the plant is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>putting energy into generating top growth. The soil is warm

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<v Speaker 1>and welcoming to new roots, and of course we get

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<v Speaker 1>natural rainfall. Also, that's a totally different thing if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be actually moving the plants to a new location.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you've sold your home and putting them in pots.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that case, if you know it's coming, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea to work around the plant with a

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<v Speaker 1>sharp shovel, cutting into the roots and then walking away,

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<v Speaker 1>watering the plant and hopefully over the course of a

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<v Speaker 1>few months starting to establish some new hair roots before

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<v Speaker 1>you put it into the pot. But in some cases

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<v Speaker 1>that's just not possible. So watering the plant well and

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that the plant is not under any drought

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<v Speaker 1>stress before you move it, that's important. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I do like to do is prune back plants when

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<v Speaker 1>I move them. It makes it easier for you to

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<v Speaker 1>move the plant, and there's less stress on the plant

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<v Speaker 1>when you move it. My general rule of green thumb

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<v Speaker 1>is take on woody plants, taking fifty percent off the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the plant. Now that's just a rule of thumb,

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<v Speaker 1>but again it reduces stress on the plant. Obviously, with perennials,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to dig and in some cases use the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to divide and then replant. And then of course

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<v Speaker 1>mulch is a very important thing to apply to these

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<v Speaker 1>plants when you move them late in the season, especially perennials,

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<v Speaker 1>because they can heave out of the ground if you

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<v Speaker 1>have an area where there's going to be frost in

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. As a matter of fact, I recommend you

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<v Speaker 1>note on your calendar you got to do those winter

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<v Speaker 1>walk arounds and inspections you got to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>your recliner. I call mine a recliner, but you got

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of that recliner, walk the yard, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of press them back into the earth. Inspect in winter.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're moving some larger plants, Stacy, I like the

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<v Speaker 1>tarp and slide method. I have so much fun moving

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<v Speaker 1>plants and scheming and late fall and say this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to look better over here, and you prepare the

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<v Speaker 1>soil in that area, just as if you were planting

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<v Speaker 1>a new plant, and the other plant, which can be

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<v Speaker 1>rather heavy, you can throw on a tarp after you

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<v Speaker 1>dig it up and do the tarp and slide method.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sometimes you got to if it's a really big plant.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I am doing a lot of moving and

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<v Speaker 2>transplanting this year. Obviously if you tune into us on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a lot of a couple videos about all

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<v Speaker 2>of the renovations and stuff I'm doing in my garden.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to move two plants that are generally

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<v Speaker 2>not recommended to move.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what are you moving?

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<v Speaker 2>Summer of a hibiscus and decadence Baptisia oho. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I've read says that you should preferably move

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<v Speaker 2>the baptisia in the spring, but I'm doing it in fall.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I often tell people you garden in

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<v Speaker 2>the real world. You can sit there and read about

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<v Speaker 2>all the ideals that you want, but ultimately you do

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<v Speaker 2>garden in the real world. And to me, I've decided

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<v Speaker 2>that I would rather move my baptisia in the fall

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, give it plenty of chance to grow

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<v Speaker 2>roots and hopefully maybe if I'm lucky, still get some

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<v Speaker 2>flowers next year. And you know, most of the people,

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<v Speaker 2>most are the things that I was reading, and I

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<v Speaker 2>did not read anything about anything reliable that I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, this is definitely a definitive, you know, take

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<v Speaker 2>on moving baptisia. You know, said the reasons that they

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<v Speaker 2>say spring over fall is because of the potential for

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<v Speaker 2>rot over winter. And I am not worried about that.

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<v Speaker 2>In my extremely saying soil yes, and you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really concerned about that, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get this head start, so I am going

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and taking the risk. I mean, if you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>tried to move a baptisia, it is not simple. It

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<v Speaker 2>is not easy, even in very sandy soil. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not looking forward to it the task itself, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am looking forward to the results.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go a couple of suggestions. Espoma bioactive plant

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<v Speaker 1>food with beneficial bacteria humates and Michael Risey that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that I use for enhanced root development. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a suggestion, but that is a product that I really like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a starter fertilizer that can be helpful. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the mulch. And also if you're going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of digging and digging some sizable holes, you may

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<v Speaker 1>want to call eight one one, the call before you

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<v Speaker 1>dig number not a bad idea, and of course that

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<v Speaker 1>applies here in the UNI United States eight one one.

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<v Speaker 2>And make sure you give them some notice. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>just be like I'm doing this tomorrow. They do need

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<v Speaker 2>some time because the various utilities do come out individually

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<v Speaker 2>and mark your property. So if you're looking at doing

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<v Speaker 2>some moving around, do it now call them now.

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<v Speaker 1>Good advice. So we'll give you a move. My plant's

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<v Speaker 1>limb a rick. I tried to cram a ten foot

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<v Speaker 1>plant in an area far too scant. What was I thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>That space seems to be shrinking and now it grows

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<v Speaker 1>on a slant that bush. It has to go its

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries overflow. I think a new location will be that

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<v Speaker 1>plant's salvation before it starts to snow. A new location

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<v Speaker 1>would behooved to let this shrub find its groove. Its

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<v Speaker 1>eventual size wasn't foreseen. It's growing through my windows screen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to bust a move. So let's get out

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<v Speaker 1>there and move some plants. Let's see how Stacey ties

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<v Speaker 1>this in with plants on trial that's coming up next

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<v Speaker 1>here on the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Proven Winners Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. That's why we trial and test all of

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<v Speaker 2>our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they

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<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center. Greetings,

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,

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<v Speaker 2>where we are talking today about a topic that definitely

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<v Speaker 2>mystifies a lot of people I know. In my years

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<v Speaker 2>here working with gardeners who buy Proven Winners plants and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to help them find the best success, I have

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<v Speaker 2>heard from an awful lot of people who are like,

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<v Speaker 2>can I move this? Should I move this? What are

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<v Speaker 2>my chances for success? How can I set myself best

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<v Speaker 2>for success. It's a very fraught thing. People, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they get very very nervous. If they kill a plant,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be their fault. They're going to feel

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<v Speaker 2>badly about it. And I don't think that for the

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<v Speaker 2>most part, people give credit for plants as being as

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<v Speaker 2>resilient as they actually are.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you can take as much of the

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<v Speaker 1>root system along with you as you can, in most cases,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be successful and do it at the

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<v Speaker 1>right time of the year. And we're saying this is

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<v Speaker 2>To do it right for the same reason it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good time to plant something new and fall. And my

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<v Speaker 2>number one tip that I don't think it's discussed enough

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of moving plants is prepare the new spot

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<v Speaker 2>first as far as you can now. Of course, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how big that root ball is going to

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<v Speaker 2>roughly guess based on the overall size of the plants,

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<v Speaker 2>but try to minimize the amount of time the plant

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<v Speaker 2>spends out of the ground by digging that new hole first.

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<v Speaker 2>As close as you can approximate it. Of course, you

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<v Speaker 2>the that should be your number one step. Over well,

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<v Speaker 2>your number one step should be watering it so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not drought stress when you try to transplit. Number two

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<v Speaker 2>prepared as far as you possibly can, and then start

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<v Speaker 2>digging the other plants.

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<v Speaker 1>A great point, and keep the root shaded.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep the rootshaded, yeah, like a piece of cheese cloth

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<v Speaker 2>or an old sheet or something like that, just because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't really see the little tiny root hars,

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<v Speaker 2>but those will be sizzling and frying even if you're

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<v Speaker 2>And another fun tip for you here for that I

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<v Speaker 2>find very helpful when transplanting, especially larger things, is to

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<v Speaker 2>take some old tights or nylons, or you can go

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<v Speaker 2>to the dollar store and get them super cheap, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're really nice. They're soft, they're springy, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>use that to just tie your plant up into like

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<v Speaker 2>a big ponytail, and you will get be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot closer into the plant to are digging it.

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<v Speaker 2>It will make it a lot easier to move because

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<v Speaker 2>you're handling the whole plant instead of just one stem

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<v Speaker 2>which can easily break. So those are my top tips

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<v Speaker 2>for transplanting. Now overall, I do think that shrubs are

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<v Speaker 2>some of the easiest plants to move. You know, normally,

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<v Speaker 2>if there is something that doesn't when people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't take well to transplanting, most often it's because

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<v Speaker 2>the plant is tap rooted. So plants have two basic

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<v Speaker 2>are tap root systems. And a taproot is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>just what it sounds like. You can more or less

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<v Speaker 2>imagine like a carrot, and that is kind of more

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<v Speaker 2>or less what's happening there. And because those tap roots

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<v Speaker 2>are tend to be thick, they tend to be fleshy,

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<v Speaker 2>they tend to be deep and very very difficult to

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<v Speaker 2>keep intact as you dig, even in sandy soil like ours.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it can you know the sands, the soils

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<v Speaker 2>collapsing back in on you. If you have clay soil,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, that's just a lot of X you work

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<v Speaker 2>and it makes the plant super super heavy.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to move a yuckup plant.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, actually that's pretty easy. I've done that

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<v Speaker 2>in our in our soil because of the sand. But

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<v Speaker 2>but you will leave some behind, you know, But yuckas

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<v Speaker 2>are super tough. So yeah, I don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you can kill a yucku maybe yeah, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if you could kill it through flooding. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so overall, shrubs have fibrous root systems that make them

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<v Speaker 2>very easy to move. Plus they are multi stemmed. So

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<v Speaker 2>even if there's some damage, which of course there will

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<v Speaker 2>be no matter how careful you are, there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be some root damage. Shrubs deal very well with being

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<v Speaker 2>cut back or you know, you could take out some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stems to reduce the amount of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>top growth that you have, because of course, the roots

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<v Speaker 2>and the top growth grow in proportion to one another.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have reduced the roots, you should ideally

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the top to kind of compensate for that root loss,

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<v Speaker 2>as Rick said, But of course, even among shrubs, there

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<v Speaker 2>are some exceptions. Although today's plant on trial is one

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<v Speaker 2>of those exceptions, it's also not exactly a shrub. The

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<v Speaker 2>plant on trial today is diamond ball clemitis, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a plant that is in the proven Winter's color

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<v Speaker 2>choice shrubs line because it is a woody clematis. So

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<v Speaker 2>some clemitists that stand by me cleminists from proven winters,

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<v Speaker 2>those are perennial. They actually die back completely to the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's nothing left above ground over winter and they

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<v Speaker 2>come back from the roots the following year, whereas the

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<v Speaker 2>woody vining clematists like we sell like diamond ball, actually

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<v Speaker 2>create a very thin but woody stem and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>vines and twines around. And overall, Clematis are plants that

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<v Speaker 2>you definitely want to plant in their final destination.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and who doesn't love clematis or clematis I'm good

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<v Speaker 1>either way. We can't pronounce it, but who doesn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like not loving coffee or chocolate or.

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<v Speaker 2>Pizza, right, I mean they are beautiful. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people feel very frustrated about clematis because of

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<v Speaker 2>the roots. So these same qualities that make it a

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<v Speaker 2>plant that's difficult to transplant also make it a plant

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<v Speaker 2>that's difficult to kind of make it happy. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it on the show before. But the

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<v Speaker 2>roots of colmatis are not really like anything else that

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<v Speaker 2>you see, and all you have to do is plant

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<v Speaker 2>one and you will get it an up close and

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<v Speaker 2>personal look at what this actually means. So they're very

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<v Speaker 2>very thick, they're very fleshy, and they almost look like ropes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of a corollary when I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about this for today's show. They're a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like the brace roots on corn. So if you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever grown corn, corn has two types of roots. It

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<v Speaker 2>has fibrous roots that it starts to help absorb nutrients,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it creates these thick, fleshy brace roots anchor

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<v Speaker 2>roots that help it prevent from going in the winter.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's very much like that with clematis. Like diamond

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<v Speaker 2>ball woody clemtist have this base of the plant and

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<v Speaker 2>it just has this kind of like octopus tentacle like

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<v Speaker 2>outgrowth of roots coming from it. Now, those thick and

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<v Speaker 2>fleshy roots establish very very well throughout the soil, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you have to it's they're also quite brittle, so

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<v Speaker 2>trying to dig them is very hard. You also don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the predictability like you have with something like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to move say a nine bark or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, where you say, okay, this is roughly the

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<v Speaker 2>space that this plant takes up. You know, the clematis

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<v Speaker 2>is vining and winding and going all over the place,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's much harder to tell, like what that diameter

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<v Speaker 2>of the root system is. And then finally, because those

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<v Speaker 2>roots are so thick and fleshy, they take a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of energy for the plant to grow and produce. So

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<v Speaker 2>if they are damaged, and again no matter how careful

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<v Speaker 2>you are, they are going to be damaged somewhat takes

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<v Speaker 2>a long time for it to recover from any damage

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<v Speaker 2>because it takes so much more energy. Do you create

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<v Speaker 1>We should say, Stacey that if you're planting a new

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<v Speaker 1>clematis or clematis, this is one of those plants that's

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<v Speaker 1>notorious for being a sleep creep leaf plant. Probably the

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<v Speaker 1>same case if.

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<v Speaker 2>You move it, absolutely same kind of thing that so

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<v Speaker 2>sleep clean sleep creep leap takes the plant a while

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<v Speaker 2>to develop a good roots system and begin to perform

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<v Speaker 2>well for the same reason. So overall, these are just

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<v Speaker 2>plants that just need to put a lot of resources

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<v Speaker 2>into their roots. Now, I could have picked any of

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<v Speaker 2>the proven Winter's Clematists proven Winter's color choice woody clematists

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss for today's plan on trial. But I picked

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<v Speaker 2>diamond Ball. It's a really interesting clematist. So it has big,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of round ball like flowers. It's very doubled, so

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<v Speaker 2>highly doubled they almost look like a dahlia really or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. And the flowers are just this beautiful, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>icy blue color. You really have to see it to

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<v Speaker 2>believe it. And I was inspired today thinking about the

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<v Speaker 2>clemitis and a planting that we used to have in

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<v Speaker 2>our trial garden where we had a black lace elderberry

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<v Speaker 2>and a diamond ball clematis had been allowed to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wind and grow its way through the black lace elderberry,

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<v Speaker 2>and the contrast of the icy bluey purple flowers on

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<v Speaker 2>diamond bull clematis with a black foliage of the elderberry

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<v Speaker 2>was just absolutely beautiful. And so this goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where you might just say, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a diamond ball clematist. It's not like doing

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<v Speaker 2>that great or I'm not that happy with it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you might want to try something else, and you might

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<v Speaker 2>want to attempt to transplant a clemitist. Now again, after

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<v Speaker 2>everything that I've just said, these are just things you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be aware of. I'm not saying it's impossible

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<v Speaker 2>to successfully transplant a clematist, but it is something that

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely not recommended. So if you're thinking about adding one,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, consider you using a plant that you

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<v Speaker 2>already have in your garden as its structure, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying to get it growing up something else

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<v Speaker 2>that you might have to change or move or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a great way to get a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>impact out of a little bit of space. So just

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<v Speaker 2>to thought there, if you do want to try moving clemenis,

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<v Speaker 2>I would definitely try that in the fall so that

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<v Speaker 2>it had a chance to you know, regrow those roots

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<v Speaker 2>and recover before tests. To think about, you know, growing

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<v Speaker 2>out in the spring. And of course anytime you transplant

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<v Speaker 2>something this is important make sure you give it extra

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<v Speaker 2>time in spring to leaf out. If you're transplanting in fall,

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<v Speaker 2>it very often will take longer to leaf out than

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<v Speaker 2>it would have if it had just been undisturbed. But briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>since we are talking about diamondball cleminists specifically, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see pictures of it on YouTube or in our show

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<v Speaker 2>notes at Gardening Simplified on Air dot Com. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to find to roughly four to five feet tall and wide,

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<v Speaker 2>hard to USDA zones four through nine, generally pretty dear

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<v Speaker 2>resistant kind of plant. And of course well soil is essential,

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<v Speaker 2>so don't even think about planting or transplanting a columbus,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can give it very well drained soil.

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<v Speaker 1>And like any clematists, you want to mulch at the base, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a mulch, Although the nice thing is if you

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<v Speaker 2>plant it adjacent to a shrub like I was just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about with the black lace, that can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>also function to shade those roots and keep the plant happy.

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<v Speaker 2>So check it out Gardening Simplified on Air dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a contact farm right there. You can even attach

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<v Speaker 2>a photo. And you know, I know that today's topic

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<v Speaker 2>of moving plants is one that people do have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of questions on. And you know, I very typically,

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<v Speaker 2>very often have said on the show when in doubt,

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<v Speaker 2>don't And I think when it comes to moving plants,

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<v Speaker 2>because you do. When you are moving a plant, it's

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<v Speaker 2>usually because you have discovered that you know, again, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, it's too big for the area, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>doing well, it's not doing as well as you had hoped,

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<v Speaker 2>and you think that if it has more sun or

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<v Speaker 2>more better drained soil or whatever, that it will do better.

419
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<v Speaker 2>Or you just want to see it in a different

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<v Speaker 2>location in your garden. You don't feel like the location

421
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<v Speaker 2>that you originally chose is doing it justice. And you

422
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<v Speaker 2>can take it from Rick and myself that that is

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<v Speaker 2>something that happens all the time to gardeners. So you

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<v Speaker 2>know you have to all also use your best judgment,

425
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<v Speaker 2>and so you have to kind of think about what

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<v Speaker 2>are the parameters that like, what would go into moving

427
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<v Speaker 2>it now, what are the advantages and disadvantage, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the risks, what are the benefits versus doing something in spring,

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of make a decision based on that. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that's not always easy, but if you do have

431
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<v Speaker 2>a question, you can always reach us. And I specifically

432
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<v Speaker 2>picked a bunch of questions about moving plants today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great, and yeah, Cheryl Crow had that great

434
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<v Speaker 1>song A change will do you good. I find that

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<v Speaker 1>often with plants. Sometimes if a plant is struggling, if

436
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<v Speaker 1>I move it, I change its environment, it responds.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's different conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Amy writes to us, would it be

439
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<v Speaker 1>better to move my summerrific high biscus in the fall

440
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<v Speaker 1>or spring?

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<v Speaker 2>Great? Question could not be better timed, Amy, since I

442
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<v Speaker 2>am moving a number of summer high biscus myself this fall,

443
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<v Speaker 2>and I am doing it in fall simply because that's

444
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<v Speaker 2>when I have time. And that is often a case

445
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<v Speaker 2>if you have a big garden and have a lot

446
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<v Speaker 2>of different plants. You sometimes move things just when you

447
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<v Speaker 2>have time to do it. And also I feel that

448
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<v Speaker 2>the summerific Hibiscus will benefit from the establishment period for

449
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<v Speaker 2>rooting in the fall, and that will set them up

450
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<v Speaker 2>for a less disappointing from my perspective summer because they're

451
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<v Speaker 2>going to have more rooting time. Or for if I

452
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<v Speaker 2>do it in spring, you know, they're they're starting to grow,

453
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<v Speaker 2>They've they're like, what just happened to me? I just

454
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<v Speaker 2>lost a bunch of roots, Whereas now they can kind

455
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<v Speaker 2>of recover from that, and they will have several weeks

456
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<v Speaker 2>to recover. But of course if you do it in spring,

457
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<v Speaker 2>that is perfectly fine. I have certainly transplanted summarific Hibiscus

458
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<v Speaker 2>in spring, no problem. They didn't necessarily flower super well

459
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<v Speaker 2>that following season, which is again normal, Like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to expect when you put a plant through this that

461
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<v Speaker 2>there is going to be some kind of drawback. But

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<v Speaker 2>usually I would say I have seen thing bounce back,

463
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<v Speaker 2>you know, after their first year.

464
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<v Speaker 1>And if you move them right now, air temperatures cooled down.

465
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<v Speaker 1>It's cooling down. It's not the heat of summer, but

466
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<v Speaker 1>the soil's nice and warm, it'll establish roots. I agree

467
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<v Speaker 1>with you. They're off to the races.

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<v Speaker 2>In summer, right, so Amy, I would say, from a

469
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<v Speaker 2>plant health perspective, both fall and spring are equally good

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<v Speaker 2>for some horrific hibiscus. So base it on when you

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<v Speaker 2>have time as your schedule allows.

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<v Speaker 1>Joan writes to us five years ago, I planted a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese maple and a nine bark next to each other

474
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<v Speaker 1>or near each other. Now it is a big block

475
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<v Speaker 1>of red in my garden. Which one should I move?

476
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<v Speaker 1>They are both beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, she has a real dilemma of paris here. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, unequivocally move the nine bark. You know,

479
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<v Speaker 2>as I said when I was talking about plants on trial.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said when I was talking about plants on trial,

481
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<v Speaker 2>shrubs generally how a fibrous root system. Because they are

482
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<v Speaker 2>multi stemmed, they can recover from being moved a lot

483
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<v Speaker 2>more easily than a single stemmed tree. Is I mean,

484
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<v Speaker 2>think about when you go to a garden center, most

485
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<v Speaker 2>of the shrubs are being grown in containers, and most

486
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<v Speaker 2>of those trees very often are still in ball and

487
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>burlap situation. So that kind of shows you that to

488
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<v Speaker 2>move a tree, it's a bigger job. Trees generally have

489
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<v Speaker 2>much bigger, more broad ranging root systems than shrubs do.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Trees also tend to put out big, thick anchor roots

491
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<v Speaker 2>that if those get damaged or though when you're moving something,

492
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<v Speaker 2>you're really going to have some trouble on your hand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say in this case, the Japanese maple

494
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<v Speaker 2>is going to be far more sensitive to being moved

495
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<v Speaker 2>than the nine bark, which is just going to probably

496
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<v Speaker 2>not even skip a beat. If anything, you'll probably be

497
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<v Speaker 2>grateful that it did get slightly set back because nine

498
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<v Speaker 2>bar can be extremely vigorous shrubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and a Japanese maple is going to be more

500
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>difficult for you to move than a nine bark. A

501
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 1>nine bark you could prune back hard. A nine bark

502
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>will respond well to pruning full agreement, move the nine bark.

503
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<v Speaker 2>So if you find yourself in a similar situation to Joan,

504
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<v Speaker 2>definitely opt for the shrub instead of a tree. You

505
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<v Speaker 2>will be glad that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy Valerie's asking us about let's see interested in knowing

507
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<v Speaker 1>more about the shrubby horse chestnut tree you showed on

508
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<v Speaker 1>one of your episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well I could not resist asking or answering valeries

510
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>question here And this was in a garden tour, So

511
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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it was in a garden tour

512
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<v Speaker 2>that we did this year. I think it was one

513
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<v Speaker 2>that we did last year when Reckon I went out

514
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<v Speaker 2>to our trial gardens and I talked about one of

515
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<v Speaker 2>my favorite favorite plants that is in our trial gardens.

516
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<v Speaker 2>It is not a proven winner's plant, and it is

517
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<v Speaker 2>ess parvaflora, the bottle brush buckeye, and oh it is

518
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:09.400
<v Speaker 2>one of my all time top five favorite plants. Absolutely

519
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 2>love this thing. It is a native shrub and it's

520
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 2>so it's most people, I think think of buckeyes as trees,

521
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<v Speaker 2>which is not wrong, but this is actually a shrubby

522
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<v Speaker 2>kind of suckering one. And the way that it has

523
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<v Speaker 2>grown in our trial garden is it almost creates kind

524
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<v Speaker 2>of like a little space underneath. And when this thing

525
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<v Speaker 2>is in flower, oh my gosh, it just puts out

526
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<v Speaker 2>these like two foot long flower spikes that are fragrant,

527
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 2>absolutely swarming with pollinators. And then those flowers become buckeyes.

528
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<v Speaker 2>And who doesn't love to pick up a nice buckeye

529
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<v Speaker 2>and walk around with that in your hand. It's it's something.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we do have to tell folks from all over Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>across the world here in the United States that in

532
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<v Speaker 1>Michigan the Buckeyes subjects a little bit sensitive. There's this

533
00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>real rivalry between Michigan and Ohio and sometimes things can

534
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<v Speaker 1>get just downright deflorable.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Well that is true, but I'm not talking about the

536
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State football team. I am talking about the plant

537
00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>known as buckeye, scientifically known as esculus uh. And yeah,

538
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a great plant. Now, this is a plan I

539
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>have to say. I don't have one in my garden

540
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>because it is just too big. They are huge and

541
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they start to sucker and form a big, big colony

542
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>over a wide area of space. So I don't, unfortunately

543
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<v Speaker 2>have room for it. And that's also why you typically

544
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 2>don't see it in garden centers is because it's really

545
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>just one of those plants. It's you know, too big

546
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<v Speaker 2>for most yards. But if you have a native plant

547
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>nursery near you, they might sell it. You might be

548
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.319
<v Speaker 2>able to find one online. And if you have a space,

549
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>well I'm jealous because it is easily one of my

550
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<v Speaker 2>favorite plants.

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<v Speaker 1>So Fore, people keeping score at home. Can you give

552
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>us that botanical name again?

553
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's Esculus parva flora, the bottlebrush.

554
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<v Speaker 1>Buckeye Aesculus parva flora. That's beautiful.

555
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's a beautiful plant too.

556
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<v Speaker 1>I love it all right. Mary writes to us, could

557
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<v Speaker 1>you address monarch butterflies and milkweed plants native to our area?

558
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 1>That would help them. I'd love to do my part

559
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<v Speaker 1>in my small backyard. Sorry to see them on the

560
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<v Speaker 1>endangered list. I came across this website, found it helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, so, Mary writes to us, And boy,

562
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<v Speaker 1>this is a topic that's right in my wheelhouse, Stacey,

563
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>because I have monarchs just all over my yard, and

564
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of native so that'd be Esclepias syriaca. Yeah, Syriacus, yeah,

565
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 1>syriacus here along the lake shore in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So there are a number of native milkweeds out there,

567
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<v Speaker 2>and escapist siriacus, of course, is the one that is

568
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<v Speaker 2>most widespread. That is not one you typically see for

569
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<v Speaker 2>sale because you kind of can't not grow it. And

570
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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons that I really wanted to address

571
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<v Speaker 2>Mary's question is because everyone wants to plant milkweed. But

572
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 2>milkweed is not a plant that does well under nursery production.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what happens is people go into the nursery

574
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<v Speaker 2>with grandiose ideas if they're going to plant a milkweed garden,

575
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<v Speaker 2>and then they get there and they're like, ooh, these

576
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>plants look awful. I'm not growing this thing. But the

577
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>fact is it just does not do well. And the

578
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 2>reason that milkweed does not do well in containers in

579
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<v Speaker 2>a nursery production environment is because it is a tap root.

580
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<v Speaker 2>So on our show all about moving plants, milkweed are

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<v Speaker 2>plants that you should not move. They don't take well

582
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<v Speaker 2>to moving because again of that tap roop. So, Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>my advice to you would actually be to get seed now.

584
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<v Speaker 2>If you're trying to just grow our native milkweed, which

585
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>is great for monarchs, again, you can just go and

586
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>take a handful of those and you can plant that

587
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>seed right now where you on it to grow, and

588
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it will. Trust me, you will have milkweed next year.

589
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>But if you have friends with milkweed, or you can

590
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>find other milkweeds in a place where you can collect

591
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>the seed, Like I'm thinking of our native orange milkweed

592
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Esclepias tubarosa. The best thing you can do is to

593
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>start those from seeds. So if you can order some,

594
00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>fall would be a great time to plant those. You

595
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>could also plant them in spring if you prefer. And

596
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 2>they're pretty easy to plant. The seeds are easy to handle.

597
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 2>And I have grown Escleapias tu barosa from seed successfully

598
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's done really really well.

599
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 1>And here on YouTube or on the website if you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the radio or podcast, I'm going to share

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of milkweed seed, a picture I took on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach recently of a milkweed pod breaking open. Love milkweed.

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00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's such a cool plant, fabulous and I can't

604
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 2>personally resist if I'm walking in the woods or a

605
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.119
<v Speaker 2>field or whatever, I can't resist exit tappen them and

606
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 2>sending that fluff the parachute.

607
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Love that which has a great story behind it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Someday we'll tech, we'll get into that. So Mary, lots

609
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<v Speaker 2>of great choices. We have a number of native milkweeds

610
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 2>to Michigan. But again, get your seed grown from seed.

611
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<v Speaker 2>You will be a lot happier with the results and

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<v Speaker 2>the cost. So we're going to take a little break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we've got branching news, so please

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>branching news. And today we've talked about moving plants in

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<v Speaker 1>your landscape, and it got me to thinking about moving.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had recently seen a survey that well, it

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<v Speaker 1>caught my eye and the survey the essentially said one

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<v Speaker 1>in four Americans consider moving to be a more stressful

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<v Speaker 1>endeavor than landing a plane in an emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, you had me into landing a plane

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<v Speaker 2>and emergency. No, I would much rather move. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's totally ridiculous. However, that's what the survey says.

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<v Speaker 1>A recent survey of Americans who have moved in the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years investigated the overwhelming task of moving and

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<v Speaker 1>found that more than a few startling answers to some

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<v Speaker 1>moving related would you rathers came up. Respondents rated moving

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<v Speaker 1>as more overwhelming than losing a job, switching careers, and

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<v Speaker 1>even running for president. Now, I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>people have run for president or how they'd know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to run for president, but that's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, they really hate moving.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So the average America has already moved five

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<v Speaker 1>times in their lifetime, expect to move three more times

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. So that's a lot of digging up

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<v Speaker 1>of plants and moving them. And let me mention that

643
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<v Speaker 1>any good realtor also is going to remind you that

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<v Speaker 1>if you sell your house, you can't just dig up

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<v Speaker 1>those plants and take them along with you. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that unless you've noted that in the agreement prior

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<v Speaker 1>to closing the sale on the house. It's tempting to

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<v Speaker 1>bring along those babies. I know in my life when

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00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I've moved, generally the fam you know, it's we got

650
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>everything cleared out, the families inside the house, reminiscing, thinking

651
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>about all the wonderful memories Christmases past, that sort of thing,

652
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>getting emotional about leaving this home I'm outside in the

653
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>garden getting emotional and saying goodbye to my plan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the way you do.

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<v Speaker 2>See that in certain real estate listings, seller reserves the

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<v Speaker 2>right to certain plantings, that kind of thing. I mean,

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00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I would do that now if I moved. I never

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<v Speaker 2>had to do that because I didn't. I was renting

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<v Speaker 2>before I moved in this house, so I didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, if I move now. But I also think

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<v Speaker 2>that probably my garden would be a detriment to any

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<v Speaker 2>prospective buyer. They would just be like, there are too

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<v Speaker 2>many plants.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that before from people buying my home, And yeah,

665
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<v Speaker 1>you drive by a year later and seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the plants are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>So their loss.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's hard. So yeah, you just you're out there

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<v Speaker 1>and you're getting kind of emotional about the whole process.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, anything that's a fixed has to stay unless

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<v Speaker 1>it's noted in the agreement. So for example, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have one of those basketball hoops that you can roll around,

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00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 1>well you can take that with you, but if it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the ground, it stays. The poll revealed that the

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<v Speaker 1>average American feels anxiety, excitement those topped the list of

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<v Speaker 1>emotions felt during the moving process. Joy, hope, and dread

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<v Speaker 1>were also on the list. So just fascinating stuff as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to moving. Here's an interesting news story in

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<v Speaker 1>Idaho man and I want to try this, and Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>man walked over one thousand, one hundred feet with a

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<v Speaker 1>running lawnmower on his chin. It's amazing to see. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to put the link at the website Gardeningsimplified on

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<v Speaker 1>air dot com. And I throw this in here because

684
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<v Speaker 1>it's probably something for most people they've never thought of.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that I certainly haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Serial record breaker David Rush took a seventy eight foot

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<v Speaker 1>and five point seventy three inch walk with a running

688
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.880
<v Speaker 1>lawn balanced on his chin to break a world record.

689
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<v Speaker 1>He's the holder of the most concurrent Guinness World Record titles.

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<v Speaker 1>Using an electric more to attempt the record at a

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<v Speaker 1>track in Boise, Idaho. The record to beat was two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty four feet, so he smashed it. He

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<v Speaker 1>struggled with wins after surpassing the previous record and would

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<v Speaker 1>have kept going, but the breeze finally pushed the mower

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<v Speaker 1>off his face. An assistant walking alongside. Rush quickly cut

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<v Speaker 1>the power to the mower as it fell. So new

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<v Speaker 1>world record balancing a lawnmower on your chin.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that that is worth the risk of injury.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, was there a blade in it? I was running?

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<v Speaker 2>But did they say that, yes, but there doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be a blade in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Good point. I better go back and sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious because it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>What is your motivation? I wouldn't really want to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the Guinness Book of World Records that much, not

706
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<v Speaker 1>for that mister Rush does. So there you go. How

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<v Speaker 1>about a horticultural history moment. Robert Prince founded the Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Nursery in seventeen thirty seven, So this is something to

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<v Speaker 1>look up, maybe do a little study on, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is a nursery that operated for one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years until eighteen sixty five. And if you think eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five, well, Civil War period and families of course

713
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>were torn apart and that probably was the demise of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the first major commercial nursery in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. It was responsible for importing plants from Europe,

716
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<v Speaker 1>sending American plants abroad, especially during the seventeen twenties, thirties forties.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interesting how the Prince family there would write letters

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<v Speaker 1>to see captains asking for their help obtaining new plants

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<v Speaker 1>for I'm abroad. And then of course some very famous

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<v Speaker 1>people visited the nursery. President George Washington visited the nursery,

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<v Speaker 1>also Thomas Jefferson, So it was a big deal at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And they had the first known ads for

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<v Speaker 1>nursery plants and the first catalog which was published in

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen seventy one. So the Prince Nursery, So this would

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<v Speaker 1>be in New York, the first garden center, nursery, greenhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it that we all love

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<v Speaker 1>to shop at there in history, founded in seventeen thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>So just something fun to read about in research.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they sell in chimes.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't sell wind chimes. They probably they didn't sell

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<v Speaker 1>barberries or cannas well.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have. I suppose it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they were really big into fruit trees, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course that was the big thing at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you need you know, it was not a luxury,

736
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<v Speaker 2>it was a necessity then, and you know, water wasn't drinkable,

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody was drinking cider. You got it, got to

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<v Speaker 2>have your own supply.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. As a matter of fact, Thomas Jefferson broke away

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<v Speaker 1>to visit the nursery and indicated for whatever reason, that

741
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<v Speaker 1>he was taking this trip for health reasons. Yeah, there

742
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<v Speaker 1>you go. Fall is synonymous with the roasted vegetables season.

743
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Do you like roasted?

744
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Love them?

745
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? After months of only craving salads, we want tender

746
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>caramelized vegetables, roasted root vegetables, anyone, it's the season. Mix

747
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and match carrots, parsnips, sweet potatoes, beats, turnips, root of begas.

748
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 1>A British man broke a Guinness World record with a

749
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>thirteen pound root vegetable called a solariac. Oh, it's either

750
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>weight or length for a giant vegetable. But it's not beauty.

751
00:41:56.119 --> 00:42:02.559
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty ugly, as he joked in a BBC radio interview.

752
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's a root vegetable that you don't hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's more popular in like Germany. They use it

755
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 2>in a lot of German food and it's delicious. I

756
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>do like it, but man, I tell you, they are

757
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 2>pretty obsessed with growing giant vegetables in the Ukay, we've

758
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 2>got our giant pumpkins. That's like the US thing. But

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00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 2>over there it's like you can grow the biggest onion.

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<v Speaker 2>Who can grow the biggest it's a brew of baga.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the biggest cucumber. Yeah, it's a big deal there. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>leave the leaves moment raking up. Of course, my good

763
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 1>friend Neil Sedaka always saying raking up is hard to do.

764
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<v Speaker 1>And unless you've been living under a pile of leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>you've no doubt heard about the leave the leaves movement

766
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>that's been gaining popularity in recent years. Now it's not

767
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 1>practical to leave the leaves on a lawn. It's going

768
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to smother the lawn, especially under snow. Now you can

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<v Speaker 1>grind up the leaves and be successful. I find up

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few leaves. If you have a good more

771
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<v Speaker 1>with a ninja blade on it more, which will basically

772
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>take the leaves and cut them into fine pieces, then

773
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you can be successful with it. But there's this real

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00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 1>movement of leaving the leaves for beneficial insects. And when

775
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you think about it again, as far as our yards

776
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 1>are concerned, you'll see some yards where it's just cleaned

777
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>up meticulously, and it is arguable that that's not necessarily natural.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely not natural. Some people prefer that, and they

779
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 2>just have this idea in their head that, like, you know,

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00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 2>when winter comes, the garden should be a wasteland, and

781
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 2>it's not really like that exactly. I leave the leaves.

782
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't have a lot to worry about anymore,

783
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I would just mow right before. And you know,

784
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 2>it's better for every It's free fertilizer, especially when you

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00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 2>have lean, sandy soils like ours.

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<v Speaker 1>I recommend people go out and collect leaves like I

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00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 1>do in the fall and use them, grind them up

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00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and use them in your garden and landscape. Yes, money

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<v Speaker 1>does grow on trees. Thank you Stacey, it's been fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Adrianna, and thanks most of all to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching us on YouTube, listening to the podcast,

792
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<v Speaker 1>listening to us on radio. Make sure to visit our website,

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<v Speaker 1>Gardeningsimplified on air dot com. Have a great week.