Speaker 1: Welcome to the I'm Still Fun Podcast with Fallon and Jenny. Hello. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we have a lot to talk about today. First
Speaker 1: of all, you know what it's funny. Someone was like,
Speaker 1: you didn't say you didn't talk about Hawaii at all
Speaker 1: last week, And I was like, well, I think we
Speaker 1: got caught up in other stuff. I mean I think
Speaker 1: I said I went, but I didn't really go break
Speaker 1: break it down too much.
Speaker 2: But we didn't talk about it much at all. But
Speaker 2: there was one thing I felt like, you reference.
Speaker 1: Well, someone asked what it was like to travel with kids,
Speaker 1: like how we decided to do it, But that was
Speaker 1: pretty much all I will say, just a quick recap.
Speaker 1: Went to Maui. We were there for a week. We
Speaker 1: say at the Fairmont. I picked the Fairmont because it
Speaker 1: is so impossible to find a hotel room for five people,
Speaker 1: I want to say, at a resort. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do condos or airbnb because I wanted to be
Speaker 1: able to dine at the place or get cocktails at
Speaker 1: the pool kind of thing. So and we took my
Speaker 1: mom I first of all families of five, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: how or five or more? Because to basically have five
Speaker 1: people in a room at any resort I was looking
Speaker 1: at was it would make it go up to like
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars a night. It was insane. So the
Speaker 1: Fairmont had it where like they had a like I
Speaker 1: could do two queen beds in the bedroom and then
Speaker 1: the living room had to pull out couch. You could
Speaker 1: get like a cot or something too, or like a
Speaker 1: rollaway bed. But I was like, that'll do. It was
Speaker 1: still crazy expensive because it's Hawaii and you're on the beach,
Speaker 1: so I get it. But I would definitely recommend the Fairmont.
Speaker 1: It's like in Wileya. It's there's this cool path that
Speaker 1: goes and you walk you past like the Four Seasons
Speaker 1: where they filmed the White Lotus the Grand Wileya, which
Speaker 1: Jake thought looked like the really cool one. Again, would
Speaker 1: have chosen that, but I'm not spending three or four
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a night for a hotel, don't love my
Speaker 1: family that much, and also would not be able to
Speaker 1: afford to pay my mortgage or anything ever. Again, moving forward.
Speaker 2: Does your mom sleep on the cot thing?
Speaker 1: Yes? So I didn't know what to do and it
Speaker 1: was weird. I felt weird putting my mom on like
Speaker 1: the pull out bed. Yeah. She ended up hating the
Speaker 1: pull up ud not because it was uncomfortable. So my
Speaker 1: mom just had She's older, right, so she felt like
Speaker 1: she was like it was too soft, so it was
Speaker 1: hard for her to get up out of it. So
Speaker 1: she ended up just laying on the couch, which she
Speaker 1: claimed was comfortable. She didn't complain, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: how else to do it because we basically had Dylan
Speaker 1: and Olive in one bed and we were in another one,
Speaker 1: and I didn't really want to sleep with my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also all it was weird because like normally, if
Speaker 1: we had a different bed situation, Dylan would probably sleep
Speaker 1: on that, yeah, because he'd want his privacy anyway, That's
Speaker 1: just how it worked out. We did the road road
Speaker 1: to Hanna greatly recommend. We did the sunrise at Haleakala
Speaker 1: National Park was my favorite part of the trip and
Speaker 1: it was just lovely. We ended up we didn't have
Speaker 1: a planned We went to the Eao Valley because we
Speaker 1: were like, we can't sit around anymore, We're not beach
Speaker 1: people recommend that for sure, beautiful, But I put together
Speaker 1: a road to hannas like thing we did on my
Speaker 1: sub stack. I think it's called like Foullin Fines newsletter
Speaker 1: or something on substack. But I'm going to put one
Speaker 1: together of the overall trip. I just haven't you know
Speaker 1: what sucks about the iHeart website. We used to be
Speaker 1: told to put together blogs constantly, yep. And I have
Speaker 1: so many great trip blogs and they removed all the photos. Yep.
Speaker 2: They do it every few months.
Speaker 1: It's I'm guessing, you know, the server can only hold
Speaker 1: so much whatever, which is why it's a great thing.
Speaker 1: You actually have your blog, Jenny, so you can just
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it going away. But
Speaker 1: it is so lame on my end because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have to go back. I'll try to recommend like
Speaker 1: our Paris Switzerland trip, which wasn't that long ago. Pictures
Speaker 1: are all gone yep, So I'm like, sorry here, you
Speaker 1: have to take my word for it. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: excuse me. We did get an email that I wanted
Speaker 1: to dive into, and it says, hey wanted to voice
Speaker 1: another thank you for being so open about some very
Speaker 1: taboo topics. In the last few episodes. We've heard about
Speaker 1: poopin in the pants from you and a brave listener,
Speaker 1: who wrote in about her own experience with tummy troubles
Speaker 1: that affect her everyday life and the ability to do
Speaker 1: activities that are easily taken for granted by those who
Speaker 1: are hashtag blessed enough to have as strong and healthy
Speaker 1: nether regions. I recently started physical therapy for my pelvic
Speaker 1: floor because over the past five years, I've had a
Speaker 1: handful of times where I peed my pants out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Turns out, having a baby and later entering perimenopause will
Speaker 1: perimenopause all while or living in a culture that is
Speaker 1: terribly lacking when it comes to woman's health can yield
Speaker 1: some very embarrassing results. I now understand that I not
Speaker 1: only still have a very weak pelvic floor after pushing
Speaker 1: for four hours to give birth to my now thirteen
Speaker 1: year old son, but I've developed both an overactive bladder
Speaker 1: and stress incontinence, which is the thing where pressure makes
Speaker 1: you pee, So trampolines are out of the question. Hell,
Speaker 1: sometimes it feels like a brisk walk is out of
Speaker 1: the question. I definitely understand the fear of losing control
Speaker 1: while doing literally any activity, and it stresses me out
Speaker 1: every damn day. All to say, bodies are so complex
Speaker 1: and life is so unpredictable, and it's embarrassing and scary.
Speaker 1: We are not alone, and I don't want to be
Speaker 1: all toxic positivity, but I do think that practicing gratitude
Speaker 1: is important when it's so easy to just focus on
Speaker 1: negative stuff. So please share something about your bodies that
Speaker 1: you love. It could be form or function. For me,
Speaker 1: I have a beautiful clavicle, just great shoulder bones. I
Speaker 1: also have amazing eyebrows that are the perfect thickness and placement,
Speaker 1: no plucking or waxing needed. How about you, I love
Speaker 1: for your emails so much. Yeah, that's so fun. That
Speaker 1: is fun, Jenny ladies.
Speaker 2: First, Yeah, thank you. I would say that I am
Speaker 2: blessed mostly with an hour glass figure. Now do I
Speaker 2: work for it, yes, But I do have like the
Speaker 2: thinner waist and then the volumptuous curves, so I definitely
Speaker 2: am a fan of having that kind of body. But
Speaker 2: I would also say that I love my shoulders. I've
Speaker 2: worked out a lot over the years and I just
Speaker 2: really like having stronger shoulders. So I do like that too.
Speaker 2: But what about you?
Speaker 1: If I'm going physical, I will say I have a
Speaker 1: handful of things I like about myself. I like my hair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like my skin. I have good skin, so good.
Speaker 1: I like my nose shape, and I still do like
Speaker 1: the upper part of my stomach. I always joke that
Speaker 1: if I lost thirty pounds, I know I would have abs,
Speaker 1: but I do even without the thirty pound weight loss,
Speaker 1: I do have like some ab definition a little bit.
Speaker 1: The lower stomach is not my favorite anymore due to childbirth.
Speaker 1: Things are just looser down there, so I don't love it,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to focus on the positive. So physically,
Speaker 1: those are some of my favorite things about myself.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back to the podcast in just a second.
Speaker 2: But first, Easter is coming up, and I just made
Speaker 2: these really delightful easter bars. I didn't save any for you.
Speaker 2: I noticed, Yeah, well you were on a little vacation
Speaker 2: and you were having little delightful things on an island,
Speaker 2: so I felt like you.
Speaker 1: Would help you sleep at night.
Speaker 2: Jenny, Okay, Well, anyway, on the top of the bars,
Speaker 2: you sprinkle a little bit of like chocolate powder, and
Speaker 2: so I went and grabbed my cacal bliss out and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm definitely using this because a it's healthy,
Speaker 2: be it's flavorful, and see, it works just as good
Speaker 2: as anything else. So I speckled it. I used a
Speaker 2: little like brush thing and.
Speaker 1: Just like why, speckled it across and I got tasted
Speaker 1: so good. Well, I'll have to take your word for it,
Speaker 1: since I didn't get a taste or any of those.
Speaker 1: Jake's been making a lot of overnight oats and he's
Speaker 1: a very health like conscious journey right now, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you should add some of that to the
Speaker 1: overnight oats. He's like, oh my gosh, it's a good idea.
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Speaker 2: now back to the podcast.
Speaker 1: So you know, before we started recording the podcast, I
Speaker 1: asked Jenny if she wanted to talk about it, and
Speaker 1: maybe that could even be the reason why you're tuning in,
Speaker 1: especially to today's podcast, because what people love tea, right,
Speaker 1: they want to know what's going on. They've followed Jenny
Speaker 1: for a very long time. I mean we even had
Speaker 1: Andrew on our podcast and on Friday on the Morning Show,
Speaker 1: you made a big announcement. So I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: take it and share what you feel comfortable sharing and
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you didn't hear it on the
Speaker 2: Morning Show, Andrew and I broke up. It's been about
Speaker 2: a month this point, and you know, Fallin is pretty
Speaker 2: much the first person that knew anything that was going on,
Speaker 2: mostly because she was texting me and at one point
Speaker 2: she goes, do you hate me? And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: literally having the worst day of my life, like no,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: And so it was so I looked back at those
Speaker 1: text messages. It was me asking you something stupid yeah,
Speaker 1: that you didn't answer. I think you answer within a
Speaker 1: few hours. Then I asked another stupid thing, and then
Speaker 1: you didn't answer, and then I'm like, are you mad?
Speaker 1: It was like such a stupid and then you're like, no,
Speaker 1: fucking fallon. Sometimes people have other things going on. I
Speaker 1: remember being like, well, I'm an idiot, so yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you speak. That was so shocking though, because that's
Speaker 1: like the last thing ever I thought you would text me,
Speaker 1: probably for sure.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been about a month. He is mostly
Speaker 2: moved out of the house. I'm not going to dive
Speaker 2: into the details of anything because it's just it's personal
Speaker 2: and it just didn't end up working out for us.
Speaker 2: I am sad, clearly, I'm very sad. I think the hardest.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've gone through different waves, Like every
Speaker 2: week is something different. The first week was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I don't have this person to talk to
Speaker 2: and I miss this person being in my life every day,
Speaker 2: and then like the second week was like morning the
Speaker 2: future I thought I was going to have, and then
Speaker 2: the third week was like thinking of all the memories.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's been this wave of different things through
Speaker 2: the breakup, and each day is different. I have good
Speaker 2: days and then I have really awful days. And I've
Speaker 2: really been leaning into the people who I've found to
Speaker 2: be the most supportive. And I told Faalin this that
Speaker 2: she has been just the absolute best person to talk
Speaker 2: to throughout all of this because Fallen is not going
Speaker 2: to judge one way or another. She is going to
Speaker 2: like lay things out and she's going to listen, and
Speaker 2: she's going to give unbiased advice to an extent. So
Speaker 2: it's been very helpful because I think that certain people
Speaker 2: just don't give the greatest advice. So those aren't the
Speaker 2: people that I really always want to talk to, but
Speaker 2: they might be very close, like close relationship to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's hard because I don't want to hear what
Speaker 2: they have to say about things, you know, And Falon's
Speaker 2: just really been there for me. I mean, she dropped
Speaker 2: off like a basket one day of just goodies and
Speaker 2: stuff and it was very sweet. But yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: been a very life changing event, just because I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're listening right now, there's a good chance you
Speaker 2: listened to the episode he was on just a couple
Speaker 2: of months ago. And I'm kind of shocked that now
Speaker 2: this is where I'm at, But it is life, and
Speaker 2: you know, I am just like taking it day by day.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I think one of the hardest
Speaker 2: things you go through it and break up. It's obviously
Speaker 2: mourning this past morning, this future you thought you were
Speaker 2: gonna have. But going from having this person in your
Speaker 2: life every single day to them now being a complete stranger,
Speaker 2: it's such a hard thing to describe if you've never
Speaker 2: experienced it. I've had friends who have been in relationships
Speaker 2: where you know, they were barely hanging out with their
Speaker 2: partner and then it just made sense that they things ended,
Speaker 2: And I would just say our relationship was a little
Speaker 2: bit different. I mean, we talked every single day, we
Speaker 2: sent each other bunny memes all the time, like all
Speaker 2: of that stuff. So it's very hard to have that
Speaker 2: and that consistent person to not having them at all,
Speaker 2: and then also just knowing nothing that's going on in
Speaker 2: their life when he's I've been in my life for
Speaker 2: over five years and not even just that, I mean
Speaker 2: we dated previously too, So yeah, that's what's been going
Speaker 2: on for the last like month. I pretty much have
Speaker 2: cried to fall in every single day before we recorded
Speaker 2: the podcast for the past month.
Speaker 1: And wait, and by the way, if you go back,
Speaker 1: you be highly impressed, not knowing that Jenny was going
Speaker 1: through this every single day, which is our every single week,
Speaker 1: and still maintaining composure and doing her job, which is
Speaker 1: not easy. What you said is so true. There's like
Speaker 1: this line and this Taylor Swift song that destroys me,
Speaker 1: and she it's so stupid to me to quote a
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift song right now, but she's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. Please don't ever become a stranger who's laugh
Speaker 1: I would recognize anywhere. And I felt that's exactly kind
Speaker 1: of what you just described with Andrew, because as your friend,
Speaker 1: I I mean, I really like I loved you and
Speaker 1: Andrew to get I like that you were very well
Speaker 1: matched with like your interests and the things that made
Speaker 1: you laugh and like activities, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people will ask like invasive questions because
Speaker 1: they're curious. And I don't think that makes you a
Speaker 1: bad person because you just want to know what happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I've gone through public breakups and people
Speaker 1: want to know. People make up things, and I think
Speaker 1: one thing we want to relay on this podcast is like,
Speaker 1: we don't hate Andrew. We don't want anyone to like
Speaker 1: go after Andrew kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Don't do any of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can love Jenny without That's the thing, Like
Speaker 1: I was telling her earlier when at X and I
Speaker 1: broke up, I think a lot of my family tried
Speaker 1: to like trash certain things about him, and it frustrated
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, well, he's not a bad person,
Speaker 1: and I know they're just trying to like they're trying
Speaker 1: to make you feel better kind of thing, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to be like, oh, he was never good enough
Speaker 1: and he was trashed, you know, different things like that,
Speaker 1: and that didn't make me feel better in the moment.
Speaker 1: You've talked about how you guys dated before and you
Speaker 1: broke up and then you know, years went by and
Speaker 1: then you guys got back together and you guys have
Speaker 1: been together for like five is years now. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: you I mean, I saw you. It's funny, funny enough.
Speaker 1: I feel like you and I kind of reconnected, like
Speaker 1: the first time you guys broke up because Jenny was
Speaker 1: an intern on the morning show and then as interns do,
Speaker 1: they leave the internship and they go on to do
Speaker 1: other things. And then Jenny had reached out to have
Speaker 1: coffee with me, and I remember the first thing I
Speaker 1: noticed about you was you were very thin, yep, and
Speaker 1: I was like, probably inappropriate. I think I was like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? And you were like yeah, you really
Speaker 1: brushed over it because I did not know you and
Speaker 1: Andrew together at all. You were just like, I'm going
Speaker 1: through a breakup or whatever, but you wanted to get
Speaker 1: back into radio, and that was the point of the coffee.
Speaker 1: So you know, year go by, i'd heard very loosely
Speaker 1: about Andrew and then you know, you guys got back together.
Speaker 1: So I know, I only know this version of your relationship.
Speaker 1: And I will say, being a friend of someone who's
Speaker 1: going through something like this is your complimentary to me,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. I think, like it's like what else,
Speaker 1: what else would I do? I was a friend off,
Speaker 1: not just like be there for you. The number of
Speaker 1: times Jenny. Jenny has watched me cry over stupid shit endlessly.
Speaker 1: She's seen me cry, so of course I would return
Speaker 1: that to you always and forever. What I've said to
Speaker 1: Jenny is, I feel like it's not that the heartbreak
Speaker 1: is any less, but it shows like just you grow
Speaker 1: and you learn things, and I feel like how you've
Speaker 1: handled is in a very graceful way while still feeling
Speaker 1: your feelings. And also you've been you've been really trying
Speaker 1: to like not cover them up or ignore them or
Speaker 1: you I do identify them, look at kind of science
Speaker 1: into things you've spoke into a therapist. I think you're
Speaker 1: handling things in a very healthy, as healthy as you
Speaker 1: can way, which is all you can really do for
Speaker 1: yourself as you're like healing and trying to figure out
Speaker 1: this new life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it bless algorithms, because you know, you
Speaker 2: hit one heartbreak reel on Instagram and suddenly your entire
Speaker 2: algorithm is that. And I it's just like, I'm such
Speaker 2: a logical, analytical kind of thinker and an anxious human,
Speaker 2: so I have to know why, in a lot of situations,
Speaker 2: why do I feel honestly dead inside? Like why do
Speaker 2: I feel these things, you know, like I still have
Speaker 2: a really good life and I have friends and family
Speaker 2: and whatever. But it's just interesting because it's like, when
Speaker 2: you're tied to someone, you get these dopamine releases when
Speaker 2: you see them, so suddenly you don't. You go from
Speaker 2: seeing them every single day and talking to them every
Speaker 2: day to not seeing them at all, and your brain
Speaker 2: is just like, what the fuck is happening right now,
Speaker 2: Like it is not used to that, And so getting
Speaker 2: out of a breakup is hard on so many different matters,
Speaker 2: but it also scientifically, biologically it messes with you, it
Speaker 2: really does. It affects your dopamine release, it does all
Speaker 2: of these things. So you know, like if I'm having
Speaker 2: a really down day, I'm like, okay, Like my body
Speaker 2: is getting used to being alone again, literally, like my
Speaker 2: brain is trying to understand that. So you know, I've
Speaker 2: done like some research and I've tried to listen to
Speaker 2: some podcasts, but like, I don't really feel like podcasts
Speaker 2: have done a whole lot for me.
Speaker 1: Are there things that you have done or seen or
Speaker 1: heard that have helped you a tiny bit in the
Speaker 1: past month.
Speaker 2: So I will say the last time that him and
Speaker 2: I had broken up. I was like a mess and
Speaker 2: I was unhealth. I was so unhealthy. Back then, I
Speaker 2: was drinking and I was partying still, and that was
Speaker 2: like how I would find my happiness, was like going out.
Speaker 2: But I was very young back then and that was
Speaker 2: just like my lifestyle. And so this time around, drinking
Speaker 2: is not involved. I'm much more into fitness however, like
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to be really real, like it's been
Speaker 2: hard to eat, like I have that sadness. So I
Speaker 2: haven't been working out working out, but I have been
Speaker 2: getting out and walking in a lot, and I think
Speaker 2: that that has been so helpful for me because being
Speaker 2: outside it really really changes my mental state. So I
Speaker 2: think that that's been good. I have been focusing on
Speaker 2: just to do lists that have piled up over the years,
Speaker 2: and I mean, I've had a lot of realizations in
Speaker 2: the last month too, of how I was living my
Speaker 2: life prior to being single again. I was living a
Speaker 2: life of work, come home, hang out, take an app
Speaker 2: hang out with Andrew, do maybe something at in the evening,
Speaker 2: not much of anything, maybe watch a TV show and
Speaker 2: go to bed. And I know that like that is
Speaker 2: not who I am deep down, Like I'm a social person.
Speaker 2: I'm an active person, and I feel like I just
Speaker 2: became so routine and boring with my days, and now
Speaker 2: I'm like diving into these things that I've been wanting
Speaker 2: to do, Like I'm working on house projects and stuff.
Speaker 2: So i feel like I'm trying to channel energy into
Speaker 2: things that I've been wanting to do, and I'm kind of,
Speaker 2: i don't know, like trying to get rid of this
Speaker 2: person who became so routine and honestly relied too much
Speaker 2: on Andrew's presence to make me happy, I think, And
Speaker 2: not that that's bad, because that's what you expect with
Speaker 2: a partner. You expect them to provide you happiness. That's
Speaker 2: why you're in a relationship. It gives you happiness. Okay,
Speaker 2: But I do realize that, like I really wasn't doing
Speaker 2: a whole lot for me. And also I'm only thinking
Speaker 2: probably in the last handful of months, when it's been
Speaker 2: winter and it's Minnesota, so I feel like it's kind
Speaker 2: of probably not the best comparison right now, not at all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in the summer, it's like I was out playing pick
Speaker 2: a ball all the time, you know. So Anyways, there's
Speaker 2: just some realizations that I've had, and I do think
Speaker 2: that I am handling this in a healthier way. It
Speaker 2: still hurts, really fucking pad and I hate it, but
Speaker 2: I do want to read something I've found because I thought,
Speaker 2: if anyone else is going through a hard time right now,
Speaker 2: whether it's heartbreak or something at your job or you know,
Speaker 2: you just got laid off or something, I just like
Speaker 2: saw this on Instagram and I thought it was very interesting.
Speaker 2: It says, today I learned about a term called a
Speaker 2: life quake, a significant and unexpected shift in the trajectory
Speaker 2: of your life that initially feels devastating but has the
Speaker 2: beneficial outcome of catalyzing personal growth and transformation and rebirth.
Speaker 2: And I just thought that was interesting because I think
Speaker 2: some of the biggest changes in my life have come
Speaker 2: from really hard times that have happened in my life,
Speaker 2: and a lot of those times I would never want
Speaker 2: to relive. However, I know I wouldn't be who I
Speaker 2: am today if I had not gone through those things,
Speaker 2: right So I am trying to see, you know, the
Speaker 2: bright side of feeling this heartbreak and being sad, knowing
Speaker 2: that like this isn't forever, but the one thing that
Speaker 2: I'll say that every fucking podcast says, every every like
Speaker 2: therapist on Instagram says, is like you just have to
Speaker 2: feel it. You just have to go through it, and
Speaker 2: you have to feel it, okay, But like I don't
Speaker 2: want to feel it yep? And how long do I
Speaker 2: have to feel it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like that's that's the stuff that's frustrating. Like I'm not
Speaker 2: going on dating apps and immediately trying to like find
Speaker 2: someone new to fill this void that I have that
Speaker 2: will never be who I am to each their own
Speaker 2: of how they do it. That's just like not how
Speaker 2: I work. So I'm not doing that. But I also
Speaker 2: don't want to sit in this sadness and only think
Speaker 2: about a breakup, you know, And so it's like what,
Speaker 2: like what is the answer to that? You just got
Speaker 2: to feel the feels that's how you get through it.
Speaker 2: But that's just like so open ended and frustrating to hear.
Speaker 1: You know it is. I mean, that's I think that's
Speaker 1: the that's everyone's top frustration is how how And everyone
Speaker 1: always says it just takes time, and You're like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to, Like, no one wants to feel like
Speaker 1: this for an extended amount of time. I feel like
Speaker 1: one thing you've shared with me that I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people will relate to is one thing that
Speaker 1: I know you you've said is especially hard in the
Speaker 1: mix of everything, just like losing your person obviously, is
Speaker 1: feeling like your friends are at a different life stage.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'll let you speak on that
Speaker 1: a little bit if you want to, because I do
Speaker 1: feel like that's very relatable.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like the first time, I was twenty
Speaker 2: five years old and single again, and everyone was single
Speaker 2: for the most part. Maybe a few people were starting
Speaker 2: to get engaged or whatever, but it was a very
Speaker 2: different lifestyle back then. People were still going out and
Speaker 2: being really involved in stuff. And now I'm approaching thirty
Speaker 2: five and almost all my friends are married, if not
Speaker 2: with kids, or if not, going to be married in
Speaker 2: the next year. And so now it's like I told
Speaker 2: Faala's like, I feel like I'm like a burden, and
Speaker 2: I know that nobody thinks that, but that's how I
Speaker 2: feel now when I reach out to friends who it's
Speaker 2: like they've got a full ass life that they're living
Speaker 2: and now I need some support. And once again, nobody's
Speaker 2: made me feel that way. But it's like I see that,
Speaker 2: and then you know, I did see probably a marriage
Speaker 2: in my future, and the kids thing was still up
Speaker 2: in the air. But now I am struggling with all
Speaker 2: of that, feeling like it was taken away and being
Speaker 2: unsure if I'm going to have that now. And I
Speaker 2: know I'm still very young, so I'm not ruling anything out,
Speaker 2: but it is just very different to be at this
Speaker 2: age and like wonder, like I don't want to go
Speaker 2: out to bars. That didn't work very well for me
Speaker 2: in my twenties anyways, meeting people at bars like it
Speaker 2: never really ended well most of the time anyways. But
Speaker 2: it's like how how do I stay busy and how
Speaker 2: do I stay social and not just like sit at home,
Speaker 2: which was fine when I was in a relationship because
Speaker 2: I had someone there, but now it's like I can
Speaker 2: only be alone for so many hours yea, and not
Speaker 2: ghostir crazy and be like what am I doing? So
Speaker 2: it's just a different phase of life than when I've
Speaker 2: previously been in when I was single last So it
Speaker 2: also feels very different in that way too.
Speaker 1: I would say, obviously, you know you're not a burden,
Speaker 1: but I understand it's a feeling. So there's no way
Speaker 1: to make you feel that. But I will say the
Speaker 1: difference in their lives is the same as in your
Speaker 1: life in that they don't the marry people and the
Speaker 1: people with kids, they don't want to go out to
Speaker 1: bars and live that lifestyle either, So they actually probably
Speaker 1: have very similar interests that you do in keeping their
Speaker 1: time busy, especially like if you're just married, because they're
Speaker 1: still they just have a marriage certificate. It's like the
Speaker 1: only difference of before other than they do have a partner.
Speaker 1: But with the kids thing, I can tell you. For me,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to just like be the mom and
Speaker 1: start only having mom friends. It made me feel like
Speaker 1: I was like losing out on a part of my
Speaker 1: life that I liked, like hanging out with you and
Speaker 1: Tina and stuff who didn't have kids, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: want to become like and this is not a knock
Speaker 1: on dance moms, Like I didn't want to just become
Speaker 1: another dance mom and that click, I was like, I
Speaker 1: still want to have my like other people that have
Speaker 1: different lives. So I feel like as long as like
Speaker 1: your friends with kids have good partners, they should be
Speaker 1: able to watch the kids so that your friends can
Speaker 1: still hang out with you because they would probably thrive
Speaker 1: on that as well. All that's to say it doesn't
Speaker 1: change things. They can't fill every minute of every day.
Speaker 1: I get that, but I would say I don't think
Speaker 1: any person's like this is a burden. Yeah, honestly their
Speaker 1: life if it's like mine, I have fun, but I
Speaker 1: also do live like a boring ish life. It is
Speaker 1: great to like still like have things on the calendar
Speaker 1: with my friends and stuff. It took me a minute,
Speaker 1: you know. It took me a minute with like having
Speaker 1: a new kid and different things to figure out the balance.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I can't change a feeling you have
Speaker 1: within you, obviously, but I can confirm not a burden.
Speaker 1: And I constantly am calling or texting Jenny to say that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you can call and text me. You don't
Speaker 1: have to be in your bedroom and like be afraid
Speaker 1: you're a burden to me because you're not. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: my daughter yells at me all the time, and it
Speaker 1: would be lovely to be able to go in the
Speaker 1: bedroom and have a conversation with you instead of being
Speaker 1: yelled at sometimes. So it's the it's a lot of things,
Speaker 1: and I know that you said, like a lot of
Speaker 1: people since talking about in the Morning Show have reached
Speaker 1: out and given you, like they've been very kind in
Speaker 1: messages and stuff.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I just it. Of course, I
Speaker 2: like come in and I do my job. I know
Speaker 2: I've not been as fully myself in the last month
Speaker 2: as I normally would be, probably on air. And I
Speaker 2: also think, you know, as we all know, social media
Speaker 2: is not real. You know, me going to the bad Lands,
Speaker 2: like we had just broken up before that, and that
Speaker 2: first like twenty four hours in the bad Lands by myself,
Speaker 2: I had a great time, and then the next day
Speaker 2: I was a fucking mess and I was so sad.
Speaker 2: And yet you know you see me posting videos and
Speaker 2: pictures of all this fun shit, and like the reality
Speaker 2: is I was like sitting in the band crying. So
Speaker 2: like check on your people.
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I love this job, but man, have I had
Speaker 2: some hard times in the last year coming in as
Speaker 2: you guys know, like just the anxiety stuff I was
Speaker 2: dealing with like a year ago, like I was barely
Speaker 2: getting out of bed. And this job has been doing
Speaker 2: the morning show, doing the podcast and anything else that
Speaker 2: involves our careers. It's not that I hate it. It's
Speaker 2: just sometimes I feel like I'm disappointing people by not
Speaker 2: being able to have this energy that I want to
Speaker 2: be bringing. And that sucks because I'm trying. Don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, I try really hard, but you can't always
Speaker 2: fake it.
Speaker 1: No, that I annything is about our job, and we'll
Speaker 1: get ready to wrap up here in a second. But
Speaker 1: compare comparing our job to mo jobs. Our job is
Speaker 1: incredibly easy, like teachers, people who do construction, you know.
Speaker 1: But I will say in this one area, I think
Speaker 1: it's like the hardest thing ever to have to come at.
Speaker 1: Your job is to entertain people. And then does it
Speaker 1: mean you aren't vulnerable? That is, you know, share vulnerable things.
Speaker 1: But Jenny can't cry now that she's made talk about it,
Speaker 1: she can't cry on the radio every day for the
Speaker 1: next month while she's going through stuff. She has to
Speaker 1: address the topic, cry in that moment, and then she's
Speaker 1: got to move on even in that same day and
Speaker 1: laugh and entertain people. And I have obviously gone through
Speaker 1: some difficult things and had to do it, and it
Speaker 1: is brutal, especially because for usually months or maybe a
Speaker 1: year leading up to that moment things are crumbling behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, you're having to maintain a happy outlook. Then you,
Speaker 1: unlike any other job in the world, you have to
Speaker 1: make a public announcement yep, hey, my fucking relationship's over,
Speaker 1: and then you get to have people's makeup stories or
Speaker 1: or even if they're being nice. It's like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to talk about and comment on my work.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. But in our job, we talk about
Speaker 1: our relationship all the time. So if Jenny just stopped
Speaker 1: talking about Andrew forever, she would just get endless messages
Speaker 1: like what happened Andrew until she addressed.
Speaker 2: It, and which was mostly like what was happening was
Speaker 2: like I was getting dms and texts into the show,
Speaker 2: their emails and stuff, and it's just like I just
Speaker 2: got to say it and be done with it. And
Speaker 2: I didn't have to. I really could have just like
Speaker 2: kept it to myself for a while. But then it's
Speaker 2: just hard. It's like when I was talking about this
Speaker 2: person every once in a while because something came up
Speaker 2: where you would talk about a story with your partner,
Speaker 2: and then I'm just like not talking about them anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think people read between the lines.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's plenty of people I follow on like
Speaker 2: social media or whatever where I'm like, I feel like
Speaker 2: they probably broke up.
Speaker 1: You can tell they stop posting their person or talking
Speaker 1: about them and you start speculating. So it's not like
Speaker 1: you and I have never done something like that either.
Speaker 1: So that's why I always say I understand the curiosity
Speaker 1: because I'm completely guilty of it. Yeah, but is there
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say before we wrap up today?
Speaker 2: No, just know that if you're going through heartbreak yourself,
Speaker 2: that there's definitely a lot of other people out there
Speaker 2: who are dealing with it. And since I have been
Speaker 2: through heartbreak before, I know that there is a light
Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel. It's just hard to
Speaker 2: see it when you're really in the trenches of it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, we love you, Jenny, and obviously I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of people are very shocked they're feeling so
Speaker 1: much love for you, and so we love you and
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry they are going through this.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and thanks to you for listening to this podcast.
Speaker 2: And you know, we do have a lot of supportive
Speaker 2: people who listen to our podcast, So thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you