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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Tras told you Monday,

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November twenty four, twenty twenty five. We're almost near, They're

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almost We're almost near the end of it. Kind of

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crazy to me that twenty twenty six. I feel like

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twenty twenty five just brushed past. I talk about this

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last episode just a getting older. Time moves in mysterious ways,

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being busy. If you got kids out there, you understand.

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I just feel like it's just time saying time warp. Luckily,

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lots of good things happening. Had a good weekend, uh

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with the kiddos. Busy weekend at times as well too,

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but uh yeah, it's been uh a name today. And

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to get the twins one year shots yikes, four needles

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into a one year old times two not fun. Luckily,

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they're very happy in the morning and they took up

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mints and they're very happy after. But during no, no, no,

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not not so much. The first two not as bad.

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At first one barely feel it. Second one, Okay, there's

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some pain. But when they see three and four coming,

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they know, especially said poor said. She's saying that she's

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sitting there watching Valerie. She goes to them all like

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she didn't no, no, but she knew enough, like, Okay,

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some bad stuff's about to happen to me, what's happened

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to my sister? But uh yeah, so that's why a

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little later I didn't know time and whatnot. And yeah,

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it's gonna be kind of a weird week this week

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for Dress Told You, because I'm going to what am

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I going to do here? So I got snives out

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tomorrow and then Stranger Things is Wednesday, I guess at night,

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and I guess I am seeing Zutobious. I'm not sure

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if I'll be reviewing that or not, but usually Tres

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Told You is Monday to Wednesday, eleven am PSD as

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of right now, currently, I think I'm going to be

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on I think Thursday, unless maybe it's early Friday. I

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don't know, but I'm gonna the next episode will be

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Stranger Things because no one else is either are watching

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it or they don't have the time like Taylor, so

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I will be doing that and uh yeah, so that's

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where this week kind of all over. This one I

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wasn't sure when it was gonna happen, and then the

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next one will happen maybe even like Wednesday night. If

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I finish it and i'll record late, it won't be live,

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So just look out. There will be a review for

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Stranger Things Volume one. If there's any mass news, maybe

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I'll do some sort of new like a Trash Told

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You bonus addition or something like that. But I don't

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think there's gonna be I think obviously, you know, shout

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to all the American listeners. You guys got your Thanksgiving

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coming up, so I imagine because that news is gonna

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go pretty quiet. I feel like for like lunch for

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lunch for for Christmas, it usually does it as well too.

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So we're in the big time where we're gonna get

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lots of trailers. We're gonna get lots of news that

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we'll talk today about Wicked box Office. But for news,

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I like it's gonna quiet down. But we'll be there.

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With the Video Game Awards coming up to that should

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be a good time, and I'll be on the predictions.

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I'm hoping to be on the actual cast. But as

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I've talked about before, Nutcracker, Gwen, just multiple days a week,

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just taking up so good times. But uh yeah, today

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just one topic. We're talking Wicked, we're talking the movie

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because I did actually see it. Didn't think I was

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going to, but I did see it. What was I

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gonna say? Uh, So, if you've not seen the movie,

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I will talk about the box office first, and then

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I'm gonna talk about a non spoils review and then'

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we gonna do a sporis review. This is not gonna

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be a big in depth or anything like that, So

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the sports view will be the last thing. If you

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want to. You can bow at that point if you're

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planning on seeing it at any point, And I'll get

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into some of my thoughts there because I did see

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it with the girls and uh yeah, which was I

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knew the reason I took them early becuse I was like, oh,

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they're gonna get asked that logan first. Uh went to

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drop profit school and two of her friends age you

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see you see Wicked and they started talking about that,

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so was fun. So I was glad to be able

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to do that with them. But yeah, we'll get right

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down to the box As far as Wicked having a

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massive weekend here coming in at one hundred and forty

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seven million dollars, uh second biggest box office of the

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year or story opening of the year. Just behind Minecraft

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and then second biggest universe of all time beat Super Marios. Ok,

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there you go, not too bad or wait, whit is

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it here? Oh? It's actually oh, because that's why it

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came a little lower. That's why, so it came a

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little The actuals came in lower. So top five universal

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three day a weekening of all time goes Jurassic World, Dress,

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the World Fall, and Kingdom Jesus, uh, Furious seven and

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Wicked for good. So Mario to take the four slots.

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So not too shabby obviously, and that's why too. Like

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we talk about with Mario, people thinking you might could

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do lower, like I could see, it's still also doing

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bigger like Wicked did right and Wicked huge jump from

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where is it here? The percentage of thirty thirty percent

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glow up from wickeds one hundred and twelve and that's

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someone's article. I'm not putting glow up there from one

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hundred and twelve point five million dollars opening pretty good.

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Now where's it gonna land? I guess some other things

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too that I thought was good here. Uh for top

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set opening weekends post COVID, this ranks at number eight.

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It goes Leland Stitch, Super Mario, Wicked for Good, Inside Out, Barbie, Minecraft,

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NOI Home. Pretty good for those other ones too. I

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know they're like it's top ten post COVID, but still

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a little in Switch Mario Wicked for Good, Inside Out too,

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Barbie newer ones that are getting past these one hundred

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and forty millions. So again, box office can struggle at times,

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but still seems like we got some big stuff there.

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I think there's a lot more disappointment nowadays, and I'm

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not surprised, per se. I thought it would be. Like

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all over nowadays of what's gonna do good, what's not

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gonna do good? I really don't know it, like I know,

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for the most part, like I got a general idea, right,

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just like the idea of how well it's gonna do

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or how bad it's gonna do. Right. I feel like

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it's at a while wild west. And with this one,

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we talked about the newscast, I said, if it were

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to hit a billion, wouldn't surprise me if it were

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to finish exactly where the first one did wouldn't surprise

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me at all. Mike says, tenth highest preview of all time.

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So there you go, which is pretty good all time.

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That's pretty good, which makes sense because I feel and

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that's my thing where I am interested. I still think

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this is going to do better than the first one.

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like same, Bullpark, are a little bit better because also

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you have sorry, I gonna change this. There we go,

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give me some more light in my god. You have

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Zutopia right on the way, which is tracking really well,

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which again I could lea the guy's in the newest

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cast go back thinking it wasn't It's like, no, no Zutopia.

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Tato's the things that Duopia two is being Avatar, and

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there's some movie bets going on about that. The coward

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wouldn't accept a pizza bet. You know you're scared, but

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you have that and then you have Avatar. Right, So

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those are two big head honchos coming out, gonna take

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up a lot of real estate. Especially think z Utopia,

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Avatar just has like a lot of big fans of

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the Nauvey and Pandora and the foreign market, right, so

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it has lots of big fans of that. But I

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with Ava or z Utopia versus Wicked, Wicked probably wins

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out a bit more because, like just because or sorry no,

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have young people in there, you might not want to risk,

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especially if it's like a darker one. So I still

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feel like that's gonna hurt it a little bit. And

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with my review. I think that the few people I've

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talked to other Mike, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I

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saw your letter box the five and five, But the

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people that I have in my circles or my sister, like,

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I feel like the general sensus not as good as

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the first, right, and eventually that will spread. You'll have

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people that go for repeat viewings and really want to

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see it. But I think that the the thing that

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Wicked one had was a lot of trepidation of Okay,

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they're gonna pull this off. And then all I heard

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was good word of mouth, right, and even myself, I

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know interest in Wicked, didn't enjoy those trailers, said okay,

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and even some of the look of the movie, I

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don't think it looks to grace, but look on papers, Okay,

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I don't think this is gonna be something for me.

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box office slop, like just putting out a big poplar

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brand and oh, hang on, oh a couple good neck

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cracks there. I feel like people that did not weren't

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that excited for it either loved it or got really

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excited or enjoyed it. And I was in't that camp too.

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first fifteen minutes is you know, lots of sing musical guy,

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so I always say that, right, But then when I

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did enjoy it. I did like it way more than

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I thought I was going to write where I don't

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feel like that's the sense. It's also tough when you

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come out as like a surprise, right, I like, there's

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tons of people that other than actually my mom, my

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mom was excited for Wicked Saw it's like, I cannot

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see that second one. But other than that person, it's

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tough to have kind of that surprise, and then a

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lot of people go out for it, and then the

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second one you can't almost resurprise them because they're expecting

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to be surprised, but there's no surprising war right, So

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it's that sort of sense. Mike says, less compe to

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this competition than last year, though, really more than let's

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see Avatar and Utopia, I feel like, are pretty pretty big.

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I'd have to see let me see what came out

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in the fall or did did we get a c

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in the fall? Right? Let me take a look here,

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so we get came out? Uh not Wicked Little Letters,

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that's something else. So Wicked Yeah, okay, part one. So Gladiator,

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which should that to me was not competition Maana two Okay,

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that that is, And I'd say, well that's tough though,

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right because ma Wana two in retrospect was big competition.

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what's it gonna be? It's been so long. But also

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a billion dollar movie and Moana one wasn't. Right, so

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I still put Utopia over Mawana two. And then in December,

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what we got here for showing page will just work

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with me? Here? Uh you got night Bitch, you got

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wear wolves y two k you got Craven the Hunter,

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and uh Lord of the Rings were here him and

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then okay, so you do have Lion King and Sonic.

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I think it's a little different though, Mike is because Utopia, Well,

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the week after or a couple of weeks. No, it

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was right after. It's honestly, it's pretty It's pretty similar

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and at the same point though, even though Lion Cake

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did become a big movie, I still think lyonk Avatar

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Lion King all put the So I think I still

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give the edge this year because I thinks UTOPI is

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a little bigger than a Moana and a Vtar is

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bigger than all those. But I think that I think

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they're comparable. Mike thinks Theman two crowd dips into the

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Wicked crowd more. Uh, I don't know. I think other

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than just singing, I don't. I think Utopia Moan are

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and singing, so I guess you got that. But lying

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all I want to see cute being one a sister,

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I want to see who like. I feel like it

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dips into more of that type of stuff, right, But mufass,

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i'd give you so. But I actually think they're pretty

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they're pretty comparable because I think Avatar, for obviously it's

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not a musical and doesn't dip in that crowd. It

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just gets a lot of ga people, right. There could

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be a lot of people going if they are thinking

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about which one they're gonna see, and they hear a

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lot a lot of Wicked's not as good as the

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first one. Well, maybe I'm gonna wait to see The

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Blue People after. I'm very excited to see how it does,

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because I'm not excited for that movie. But I think

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Taylor is right in one sense where not that it's

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gonna Zutopia two is gonna beat it, but in the

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sense that the second one did have a special It's

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been a long time right where now it is only

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two three years later, right, kind of that has worn off.

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The thing is, though, if people love that second one,

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they will come back, right. So I think this is

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a good test. I still think it's going to do

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lower than Avatar two, but my feelings haven't changed. I

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feel like with Wicked it's gonna end up. The last

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one was what like six forty six or seven forty

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seven to sixty. I feel still think it's gonna get

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into like that. I still think eight hundred is possible.

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I don't think nine hundred is because I I don't

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think it. I like to give my thoughts. I did

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not like it nearly as much as one. My kids

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did not like it as much as one. I'm interesting because

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I gotta go see it again. They both said that

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they enjoyed the first one a lot more. They mostly

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said because the songs, but I could just tell in general,

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and it is darker to an extent, but it is darker,

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so it does you know. At the same time, though,

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Oppenheimer and Game are also exclusive or examples of darker,

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big movies that do well. Right, So if it's dark

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and it even returned the King, if it's dark but

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still plays well with his base audience, you're fine. You

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don't really have to worry about it. So to me,

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I think it just comes more down to the qual

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of the oven. We'll have to see, But I just

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don't think that Buzz is going to be there like

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the first one and even for the Oscars too. Like

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I know, I know Mike and other people. You guys

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are on the like Badwa are on a winning I

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could see her again, nomb I don't think she's winning.

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That I don't think this movie's getting Best Picture nomination.

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And that's where I can transition into my review that, yeah,

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I did not really enjoy this movie, and I don't

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know if I was, and I don't think it is.

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But maybe I'm an example of you know, I don't

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have much excitement for that first one I watched it.

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I'm surprised, but even at that point, I watched it

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months later, right, So it's I was expecting to Okay,

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a lot of people really liked it. So it's almost

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like you're expecting that hype. Right. We've talked about before

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where you get overhyped or expectations can get to you.

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So I would have thought, oh, lots of people have

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talked this up. I've seen Taylor good at five out

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of five. You know, I don't think I'm gonna think

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it's that hot shit right now. Granted I don't think

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it's as good as that, but I do. I still

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really enjoyed it, right, great songs, great performances. I think

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the movie, like I said, does not look the greatest.

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I think there's certain elements that I don't enjoy from

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this and the second part, and that's where, oh what

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happens in the play. That's fine. Then it's me critique

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to play same way as a book, same as a

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comic book. That's where it goes. So I never want

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people use that as a crutch for my any critiques

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I have for it here as far as the second part,

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so the first one did surprise me. I did enjoy

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I was like a seven point five eight somewhere in

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there where this I was very close to failing it.

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There is one reveal near the end this movie, I'm sorry, Mike,

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you're still in the chat? How are you listening to

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this after? You're gonna hate me saying this? And this

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movie felt like this a few times. There's some like

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rise of Skywalker isms in this movie where there's just reveals,

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revelations or twin it's that don't feel earned whatsoever. They

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just feel like out of the blue work. Especially one twist.

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I was like, this can't be real right, Like just

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the way they show it in the movie, this can't

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be real right. And I search it up and it's like, oh,

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this plays a big, a huge plot point in the

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play in the book, I'm a huge plot point, like

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you like, like what's happening there? Like I don't like huge,

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So I think for me, there's some of that, And

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there's also somewhere it's tough because it is darker, but

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it feels like they try to dip into it. And

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I'm sure it might even play better as a play

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because you're at the crowd and the audience and feeling

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some laughter. But I feel like there's times where it

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tries to be kind of lighthearted and fun like that

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first one, but it comes off as like mindcrafty in

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a way. And I hate saying that, but there's at

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times the movie feels very childish, where to me, the

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first one plays like that, and that's completely fine because

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it's like that classic Force Awakens and I guess make

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a lot of the Star warsm there's no Last Jedi comparison,

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I guess here, so just Force Awakens and the right

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Skywalker or where you're meeting new characters, you're meeting new worlds,

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you're falling in love with everybody, You're you know, fearing

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the new things that come in, all the stuff that

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they set up. They do that well. But even then,

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I feel there's moments where like the like the even

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just the scene alone right like Wicked the first when

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I'm multiple moments or so I like this, I like

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this taking defying gravity out the scene where Glinda dances

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with Alba Faugh and and sorry if I excuse that

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name wrong, because I on purpose say it to trigger

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my girl. So now I'm I like like a Mendela

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effect myself. But when they dance and there's this great

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moment of like man like the bonding the French, and

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she puts herself out there. There's nothing like that in

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this But that's where even then there's still the shit

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hasn't dropped yet. In Wicked Part one, right, you're kind

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of seeing everything. So at the end of that, when

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you get defying gravity and you literally yet her in

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the air and she's staring down the Wizard, it feels

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like it's on. It feels like it's on for the

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first twenty minutes of this movie. But then and this

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is like, I'm not gonna specific events, so luckily, like

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if anything really spoilery, I will wait till the end.

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But characters like Alpha, I think, kind of lose her

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agency in this, Like it doesn't feel like the threat

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or that moment of defying gravity. It's the hydrogen bomb

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versus coughing baby thing. The person she is in Wicked

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Part too doesn't feel like that all. And I'm not

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saying she should be Wicked or the film even though

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this is mind sports. She gets this whole sequence, this

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whole song, and I don't know, Mike, you can let

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me know if this is in the play or not.

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It's with her and the monkeys, and she's saying she's

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gonna do no good whatsoever. She's just gonna be bad

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and do bad stuff because the world's hurt her so much. Right,

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that does not happen. Like I'm sitting here, I'm like, oh,

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this is how we get there? Right? Because that was

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the joke for Peel that, like myself not seeing the

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play off the sister her. How do we get from

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this very nice person who's it's an algoryth for racism, right,

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how do we get from this person who's trying to

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do good, might have an additude, but a deserved attitude.

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How do we get from there to house falling on

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her and trying to kill Dorothy and a little dog

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and all this stuff? Like how do we get from

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there there? And there's a part where I'm like, Okay,

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I can see why we are going this route. It's

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a bit of a leap. That's original a movie and

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scene for the song. Okay, yeah, to me, it did

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not play well for the story that followed that. I

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also think Glynn had one too, where I'll talk about

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that in Spoils. But she had a song and that

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one I think is from the play where it's this

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big moment of her sing about something, but then the

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next scene it kind of contradicts the way she's acting.

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So I think that's the thing where there's certain character

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changes or there's just certain decisions that happen, and it

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feels very child film like, right, And that's fine if

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you're going for that market. I think Wicked feels like

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it's trying to be a bit older and that offusely.

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Tons of kids love, right, so for them it works

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out that way, and I think my kids liked it

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for the most part. They have a few things, but

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that's the original song. Let's say no, this is an

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original movie scene that's an original song too. Okay, Yeah,

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that didn't work like here. Like again, I guess before

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I get into certain things, I just think there was

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some choices from the characters and in the moments or

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in the movies that played off like kid movies, where

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why do I feel this way because I've changed? Okay,

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and that's what happens, right, And that's fine in an

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animate thing or kid it's twenty two minutes. But for this,

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especially in the first one, I don't think the first

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one has that. I think for me. What feels odd

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is visually and toned like other than being darker, it

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does feel like the first one. It still feels like

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John m chwo directed both of them, right, the comparison

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I'm gonna go to, it's the same way to me,

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the guy that directed Superman, the guy directed Peacemaker. They

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are one and the same. But there's certain things they

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did with certain cam miles or characters that were both

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in Superman and in Peacemaker. They felt like they were

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directed by different people. And that's where I'd say, this

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feels like it's more like it's written by a different person.

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I don't think it is ulso they are adapting it

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off the play, right, but just certain choices. It feels

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that some of the more mature aspects, even though it's

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still bewildering and there's almost like a fun, child like

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aspect of Going to Oz, there was some grounded emotionality

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as far as being you know, not childlike mature, and

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that's what I liked about The Wicked. It kind of

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struck a good bounce right where this At times the

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mature is just feel like it's just because it's dark,

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you know. And then the other the real stuff. There's

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also one moment alb the Faugh that I cannot believe

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and I don't know again if it's like the play,

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it doesn't matter because I don't enjoy it either. To me,

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it should be something of like a very emotional moment

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really is nothing and then we just go in like

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full calmedy and laughs, and I just it felt like

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a different person was ahead of this or doing this,

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and it just it just was odd. So I think

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between sometimes the decisions and choices feeling kind of emotionally stunted,

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like it said, kind of and like saying like a

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child's movie is more of a degraded It's nowhere near

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as bad as a Minecraft. Right for me, Minecraft is

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lo this like I still would pass it, and lots

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of it is more because of performances. I have nothing

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negative to say on anybody acting wise. Maybe I don't know,

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maybe uh Bach or whoever it's Bach or Pak, whatever

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his name is. I think he's all right. He was

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in gen V's in this. I don't know if he's

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the strongest, but everybody else I think is great and

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they deliver that well, there's no issues there that And

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I actually like Jonathan Bailey Moore in this one than

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the first one. That's more so because the storyline, right,

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and that's things we're also, hey, I'm not a big

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musical guy, but like define gravity like everybody else is.

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But great song, right, there's other songs there that are great.

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So there's times where like Grease is an example, I

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don't like that movie. I think especially it's a very

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they may have a different time, but very dated, very

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like there's times where we're talking about the girls singing.

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I said, damn, like it's one of her favorites. But

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I'm like absolutely not, like not right now, not this stage.

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Like there's just certain ways the men act and the

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women act towards the men as far as just like

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a falling the big strong guy when it's just like,

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now this guy's trying to do like I don't know

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a semi version of assault here. We can't. And once

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I wrote down, she's like, oh, yeah, I guess there's that.

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That's something with me, Like I want, I said last week,

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want to watch Edward Scissors Hands. I'm like, right, there's

469
00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,599
some stuff in there. It just doesn't play not stuff

470
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,799
you want a young child to gleam on too, and

471
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960
Luckily the movie has none of that. So but I'm

472
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,160
just saying that I think I lost my train of

473
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,480
thought there. But when I thought of fucking Grease, Oh

474
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,319
what I was saying the Grease. I love a lot

475
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,839
of those songs. I fucking love Summer Nights. I love

476
00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:34,000
the one that I want even Rocky Horror Picture Show

477
00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:36,240
that I enjoy now more. I saw it for the

478
00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:37,799
first time because a lot of people to me, oh,

479
00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:39,920
you'd love it. I didn't know it was a musical,

480
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,319
but this wasn't for me. And then as I got older,

481
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:45,200
I enjoyed it. But in between times I still love

482
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,880
you know, Sweet transvest Side or time Machine. So that's

483
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,480
where for me, that's something that in Wicked, even Wicked

484
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,599
Part one, which I do enjoy multiple great songs here, right,

485
00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:59,759
this is something where Okay, if I'm not enjoying the songs,

486
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:03,079
then I really don't enjoy musicals. Like That's where it's

487
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,200
really tough, right, because at least even then, I don't

488
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,799
maybe love the way people express themselves and sing and

489
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440
dance it's somebody, oh you know, maybe sometimes I take

490
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,160
some dialogue here. It's a genre. I do like it

491
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,200
more as i've gone a bit older, but still not

492
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,599
something I would If you're saying, hey, Travis, you can

493
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,799
never see another musical ever again other than Lala Land,

494
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,240
you know, And I guess there's some Disney stuff that can.

495
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,480
But every time a live action other than Lala Land,

496
00:23:27,799 --> 00:23:30,839
I'm not gonna miss most of them, right, I'll be okay.

497
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,799
So that's the thing where the songs are lesser, that's something.

498
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,960
And the other part two with the first one that

499
00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:41,039
I thought was the weakest, and like they do it here,

500
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,519
it's not awful, but again there's some decisions and choices

501
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,240
here made that I just think are a little underwritten.

502
00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,200
The love story in the first one, to me was

503
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,480
my least favorite part. I just liked the feud to

504
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,200
the bonding of albafon Glinda, right, I didn't need the

505
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000
whole love triangle. Oh he loves this girl, but really

506
00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:01,480
he doesn't and this girl doesn't know because she's green

507
00:24:01,599 --> 00:24:03,519
and level them like, and that's fine. It was part

508
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:05,559
of the play. That's okay, that's just not for me

509
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,720
something that I enjoyed. So I'd enjoy johnthan Bailey in

510
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,720
that role where this one he kind of gets to

511
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,799
be a bit more of like a like a hero

512
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,720
per se, like I was definitely seeing when people are

513
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,359
wanting for Batman, I'd already seen it, but I'm like, okay,

514
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,680
I could definitely stretch and get there right. So those

515
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,240
are my non spoil of thoughts. I only recommend it

516
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,519
if you really like that first one. If you're iffy

517
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:27,319
about the first one, then no, I don't think this

518
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,880
is gonna be changing it. And to me like I

519
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,960
I'll see how much the girls watch it. But if

520
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,279
I ever watched Wicked, I really have no reason to go. Oh,

521
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:37,720
I guess there's another point too that I'll make be

522
00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:40,359
forgetting on spoys. I have no reason to watch Wicked

523
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,880
part two. I think Wicked Part one ends on such

524
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,000
a strong note, and even with the play, I'd be

525
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,839
curious to watch it like it ends on such a

526
00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:49,400
strong note and it feels like Alva is so determined

527
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,759
and so powerful to where we end up does not

528
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,079
fit at all. So I'd rather just watch Wicked and

529
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:58,240
be like, oh, that is the that's the ending of

530
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,720
this story is. I don't know how she becomes the

531
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,960
evil Wicked of Witch of the West, but it's like

532
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,480
something happens. She was betrayed or even then if you

533
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:08,319
just look at us, like she thinks Dorothy's with us,

534
00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:11,160
so therefore she's an enemy, right, Like I'd rather go

535
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:14,240
just that route because that's one thing too. And I

536
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,920
think the biggest things that felt like the Rise of

537
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,039
Skywalker stuff, what song did you like the most? I

538
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,880
think I'm gonna be like lame and just like every

539
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,599
really like the four good songs at the end, but

540
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,920
like I don't even like I think that's the only

541
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,559
song that's memorable. And then the rest I didn't really

542
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:37,200
stick with me, like nothing really, there isn't anything else humming,

543
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,559
there's anything after Spotify want after this. When I had

544
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,240
to do recycling, I listened to stuff from the first

545
00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,480
Wicked one, like that's where it made me miss watching

546
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:48,400
the first part, Mike, So that's where at least give

547
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,640
it granted that way. I haven't rewatched her because I

548
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,599
want to watch Dives Out before the new one and

549
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,920
Bigooni's out on streaming after Hunts Out on streaming or

550
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,240
at least fo D, so I haven't watched it, but

551
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,920
at some point I still got to see K pop

552
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,920
deveon Hunters two. It's like, oh, a long list of stuff.

553
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,599
I gotta watch the next a little bit, but I

554
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,920
think just that but even that, that wasn't something I

555
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,400
loved there, but the most rise Skywalker stuff. And this

556
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,279
is stuff that I think could play better in a

557
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,720
musical because you could have the laughs of the audience

558
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,680
and it kind of like tongue of cheek. But in

559
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,599
the movie the Wizard of Oz stuff, it is clunky

560
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:22,039
as can be, both from a inputting it into this

561
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,839
story and making it make sense for the other story.

562
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,200
I think it's tough. Because Taylor asked me, like, what

563
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,720
do they do? Do they do like radical changes or

564
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,000
do they just stay very close to source material? I

565
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:36,960
think that's the issue. They kind of try to do

566
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,720
both in my opinion, you know, like in this sense,

567
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,240
I would have just rather than do like a a

568
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:44,680
what if of like, oh, you've heard the story of

569
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,759
the Wizard of Oz, but this is how really went

570
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,720
down and telling the story of Alba being a good witch,

571
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:51,720
you're not a bad guy, you know. Like there's times

572
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:53,759
where I feels like they're trying to stay very close

573
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,480
to the original, and if that's the case, I don't

574
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,359
think I don't know any of this works. And some

575
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,039
certain character motivations work and then other times they take

576
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,480
radical stuff, like with tin Man. So I did not

577
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,400
enjoy any of that. I wish none of that existed.

578
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,799
I wish even going back to the Wicked play, I

579
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:13,200
wish they never touch any of the Wizard o stuff and

580
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,799
you just keep the story to Glinda and Alba. Thought

581
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,599
like that's that's it, Like like the Wizard of Os

582
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,000
stuff hurts it a lot, Like it's just I don't know,

583
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,319
it's just it did not work for me at all. Uh.

584
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:30,880
Supermanike says they made the tin Man origin cool in

585
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,599
the movie, though I'd have to see it. Hate that scene.

586
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,640
I hated the sister cell plot in the scene that's

587
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,359
a kid thing where it's just I yeah, the body

588
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,119
horror thing, that's fine, but like it's just like I

589
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,519
hate this person. I don't I hate this person. What'd

590
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:48,400
you do? I don't hate them, I hate him. Like

591
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,519
it was all over the map. I could not lock

592
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,119
in at all. And that was the first like, up

593
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,119
until that scene, everything was fine. That was the first

594
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,319
thing that I'm like, hmmm, something seems a foot like

595
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,480
there's I think there's stuff in the first Wicked movie

596
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,799
that I didn't enjoy or maybe it wasn't like amazing,

597
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:07,559
But I don't know if there's anything in the first

598
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,319
Wicked that I absolutely thought, oh this is really bad

599
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,599
where I had this a few times. Right, So I'll

600
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:14,799
take an ad break now if you have not seen

601
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,599
the movie trying to think there's anything else, don spoilers.

602
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,039
I said, I think I'm like a five. I'm a

603
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,759
five out of ten. It gets the past that there's

604
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:26,319
a reveal at the end. I was very close to

605
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,960
the fail. I thought, no, don't let that last thing

606
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,720
thing do it. It's still because I looked at my

607
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,200
letterbox two movies that have failed this year, I'm like, no, Like,

608
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,839
it's not as low as that, right, but there's just

609
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
some certain decision. It's like a right Skywalker where that

610
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,279
movie looks gorgeous. There's a certain thing acting still great, you know,

611
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,119
raise great like Daisy Ridley Adam Driver. There's things that

612
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,039
are great about it, but then it's a big choice

613
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:51,000
in the big swings that just miss. And that's how

614
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,119
I kind of feel with we could four good. I

615
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:55,519
guess I keep saying part two, but that's how I feel.

616
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,359
I'll do a little spoilers review here, so I'll take

617
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,839
an ad break and then I'll be right back. And

618
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,880
I'm back. I don't know, in fact, there's anything I

619
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,759
missed on the box office that I was supposed touch on.

620
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,920
I don't know if there was, but yeah, to that

621
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920
tin man seemed like the sister and her just rolling

622
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,160
out being like I am the wicked Witch of the East.

623
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,119
All right, Sure, that's where it feels like we're tru

624
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,079
and then she's not a witch. There's no one else around,

625
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,279
she's not continuing to do like witchy things throughout. Like

626
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,039
that's where it feels like such a leap to the

627
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,160
Wizard of Awe stuff. Right, it just doesn't work for me.

628
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,759
And in that moment where all right, and I knew,

629
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,799
I knew it was going down, so obviously I can't

630
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,720
remember what the hell's his name, but Jonathan Bailey he

631
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:35,839
makes a run for it. He was never gonna marry Glinda.

632
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,000
He goes with Alpaha, I know they're gonna get on

633
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,279
the second he takes off his jacket. Second he rooms

634
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:43,000
a jacket and he has like a very loose fitting shirt.

635
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,599
I'm like, okay, it's happening, right, So I'm just saying Okay,

636
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:47,680
what's this gonna be? Like? It was bad enough. I

637
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920
already had to watch the Worthering Heights trailer with my

638
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:52,200
six and eight year old. Luckily, this is very other

639
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,920
than seeing some albapha thigh very right. I was called

640
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,920
him Ferrero Roshe Yeah, sorry, I still to forget that name.

641
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,640
But so than Maley. Uh, they get it on, you know,

642
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:08,400
it was fine. I was like, I've never felt so

643
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,440
wicked before. Whatever she says, all right, cool, they get on.

644
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:14,480
She's a vision. My sister's in trouble, not dead, but

645
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:17,720
in trouble. Okay, I don't know how that works. Maybe

646
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,960
along the way she thought she was dead. Fine, so

647
00:30:20,039 --> 00:30:23,920
she gets there, sister is dead. House there, g Linda's

648
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,599
looking at her. She just talked to Dorothy, which was

649
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,160
such a weird, Like I get what they're going for.

650
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,720
But that's where I thought this would work better on

651
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,079
stage play where they cut the scene and she's glemen

652
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,119
being like bye, Dorothy, good luck, have a good time.

653
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,799
You see her from the back, You're like, Okay, this

654
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,960
is this is what we're doing, which is probably better

655
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,640
than like the AI you know, generated Dorothy that we

656
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,240
would have got like Judy Garland right, but still it

657
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,240
felt awkward already an introduction and alpha lance she sees

658
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,799
her sister dead, So yeah, can I have a moment?

659
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:57,359
Yeah sure, It's pretty much like that Cadence. If there

660
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,960
is any actor, I would pick up part and I

661
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,079
think this is pure them them. It was that. It

662
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720
was like Mike says, the next stuff you needn't need

663
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,440
more time to develop a develop her going back. Absolutely,

664
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,960
she gets two scenes. She gets the one scene of

665
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:12,839
Bach is gonna leave her, and he does, which was

666
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:14,920
odd because he's like, I'm never gonna see you again,

667
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,839
Like he pretty much says, like implies that I gotta

668
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,440
be moving on. And then when he comes back and says, hey,

669
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,039
I gotta leave, She's like, what do you mean the

670
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:25,160
last scene he just told you he was leaving, and

671
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,519
now he's telling you're leaving. Your surprised again, I digress.

672
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,039
I don't know. There's just all and that whole timid

673
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200
scene back and forth with hitting alpha to You're my sister,

674
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,200
and this scene where Alva lands and sees her sister

675
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,359
Dan the house. I gut they didn't have a good relationship.

676
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,680
But no even a tear, not even nothing. She had

677
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,720
a bigger tears in by to Glinda, this person that

678
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:47,519
she knew for a little bit of time, nothing for

679
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,799
her sister. And what does it lead to? Like a

680
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:54,200
very cheesy comedic Alva and her Glenna fight with their

681
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,480
braun the want slash broom. I put those wounds the

682
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,440
words together, not the wombs together, and it's like very

683
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,279
over the top and very kitty, and it's it's interesting

684
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:06,279
because the first one had those type of a vibes, right,

685
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,480
and that's where it worked. In this it just it

686
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:11,839
didn't right, And that's why I said letterbox. Now, most

687
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,839
time I don't like I just dropped like a just

688
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960
a joke, or say something very positive about a movie, right.

689
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,680
I try not to do a bunch of negative stuff

690
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,880
because I don't know, I don't need to, And I

691
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000
feel like it's it's easier to say it now in

692
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:24,680
this form, right because you can have a bit more

693
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,839
context to it. Crazy time for Alpha, I'm gonna assume

694
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:32,240
heavily assume that she lost her Virginia that night to

695
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,160
Jonathan Bailey, and then she los her sister. She assumes

696
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,359
Jonathan Bailey's killed, and then she's about to figure own

697
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,319
death it's crazy, terrible first time fallout after all that,

698
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,759
but she flies off and Mike, I would like that.

699
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:49,839
In the play, Albapha is anger when her sister dies.

700
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,440
They downplay that a bit here, a bit. That's where

701
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,160
I pushed back. I can't say a lot. She she

702
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,759
lands with like no emotion. She's like, can I say

703
00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:00,920
good bye my sister? I just I just couldn't believe it.

704
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,319
I just this is the take we have, right, And

705
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:05,160
then they do that comedic scene, so that feels like

706
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,160
that doesn't work at all either, and then it's just

707
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,359
kind of choice after choice. There's and they do this

708
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,119
multiple times too. Of you know, Bailey sayser by putting

709
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,960
the gun up to Glinda and she gets away and

710
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,000
he's stuck there right or later or early on the

711
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,599
movie where they make the Wizard get into a cage,

712
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,839
why has an album? But taking these people with her

713
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,039
ground by the fucking scruff, Why don't they take the Wizard?

714
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,400
These are more like minor grice, but still it's stuff

715
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,839
where it just feels very easy, and it feels like

716
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,759
this person that's so powerful has no powerful what like,

717
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,920
has no power whatsoever. Like same thing all these scenes

718
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,799
with Wizard, and it just feel like I'm gonna, no

719
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:44,880
matter what, I'm gonna come after you till you know

720
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,759
you're dead or die or stopped. Why does she give

721
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:49,720
up at the end of this movie other than Michelle Yeah,

722
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:52,960
no one has these power She's just she's looking like

723
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,480
she's getting stronger, she's doing crazy stuff. Why does she

724
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:58,720
just gonna give up and like, yeah, I'm just gonna

725
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,920
run away? You know, I know you might tell about

726
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,000
Oh well, no one believe was a witch. They think

727
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,720
she's evil. Yet I get that right. I'm a fan

728
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,480
of The Dark Knight. I understand Batman took the Fall,

729
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,760
but he felt like the way it was presented here

730
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:12,760
was not done good enough for me to believe that

731
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,079
Alapa would not just continue to pursue the Wizard, especially

732
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,760
at the end of that first movie. Seems very defiant,

733
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,679
very powerful. Here, not so much. Same thing with her

734
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,079
and she gets back with Glinda and the Wizard one

735
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,840
and multiple people said this to me. Mikey said this

736
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,639
to me. Maybe it is that way in the play.

737
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,840
I'm gonna say you're all liars, or it's that way

738
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,840
in the play. One of my biggest complaints in the

739
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,639
first one was, you know this Clinda character, don't really

740
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,320
like her, especially near the end, right, they all these

741
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,599
people are revealed to be doing these terrible things to

742
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:50,760
the animals, lying with the Wizard, etcetera. Right, and then

743
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,039
I guess, I guess we'll get there mic but like

744
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,360
all the stuff, But Glenna's fine to sell her friend

745
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,559
play along. And I've been told walls for a reason

746
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,639
while she be good on the inside. Right Yet, so

747
00:35:01,639 --> 00:35:04,360
I thought, okay, there must be reasons. I understand. We've

748
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,480
seen this trope before where someone pretends to be bad

749
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,280
and they're on the inside doing good stuff. Right Snape Barbosa.

750
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:14,119
These are characters you know in history that have done

751
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:17,960
these stuff, many big trope. Right, she does nothing in

752
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,760
this movie she does. It's like the the me of

753
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,199
like the party's already over, but they're still there. At

754
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,079
the end, when she finally realizes, hey, I gotta do something,

755
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,480
fucking like Alpaha's already made this plan. She's got a

756
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:34,360
fake her death and get out of here. She's gonna

757
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,719
do this. She's gonna say, oh, it has to be

758
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,159
a family Alphas put everything into motion now. Granted, sure,

759
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,119
she gets the Wizard to screw off. So that's one

760
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:44,320
thing she does. But this idea of and that's why

761
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,880
I couldn't even be into this character in this part,

762
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,719
because all this really bad stuff's going on, and when

763
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,320
she lands, when Alpha lands for the wedding, which that

764
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,920
is a great seale like that the first time they

765
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,360
reunite and they're talking about the wedding and talking about, oh,

766
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,039
you gotta beat the buzzard. We can figure something out

767
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,320
yet DA And when they have this meaning, Glinda feels

768
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,159
just so, and that is part of the point of

769
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:06,280
the character, right, I do understand, But because the point

770
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,519
of the character is that I guess she's trying to

771
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,239
see the good in all the situations, but then once

772
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,639
it goes too far, she realizes she is on the

773
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,920
wrong side and there's only so much she can do

774
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,320
to help out right, and she has to do more.

775
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,519
She has to be better, take bigger steps, not just

776
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,000
gonna be on the sidelines. But I feel like throughout

777
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,480
the movie, and especially in the last one, some of

778
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,880
these characters go too far that how much she puts

779
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,960
up with it, I don't care about the Glennon character.

780
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,480
It feels like she's just kind of pathetic but not

781
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:38,960
in the good way where it's like, oh, she's got

782
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,280
a redeeming like run. It just feels like at the end, yeah,

783
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,920
sure she gets the animals to live in the humanity

784
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,480
with the humans, but just it feels so after the fact,

785
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,440
and it feels so little that I don't know, it's

786
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,199
just everything now from part one with her and now

787
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,320
with that doesn't feel like, oh, it's happening, all this

788
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,840
stuff even then. And this is my point too. For

789
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,280
the original song, she guys left the altar, right, she

790
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,840
finally realizes, Hey, he loves Glynda or he loves Alba Fah,

791
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,599
I read that wrong, whether I was being played or

792
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,400
whether that's true love. Okay, she got the whole song

793
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:13,760
set piece about how he doesn't love her. But then

794
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,280
the next scene is that scene that I talked about

795
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,559
after the sister's death. They're together and it feels like

796
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:22,440
she like at one point Jonathan Bailey says something and

797
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,800
like Aaron Ronad looks like you love her, like something

798
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,320
like that, and it's like, yeah, yeah, I had a

799
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,400
whole song sequence about this, like I thought you your

800
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,840
character realized that. Like that's my problem is I find

801
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,440
the character because I know Jenna with and I know

802
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,000
the way they didn't in part one of her being

803
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,719
a little ditsy or a little just kind of aloof right,

804
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,960
But I felt like they went too far to make

805
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,599
her just kind of idiotic. In this version, I did

806
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:50,719
not get the sense of a hero waiting beneath the wings.

807
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,800
I did not get a sense of a hurt hero

808
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,800
who didn't see things clear. But now you move everything

809
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,320
and she sees the direct line. I just I don't

810
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,079
think the movie did a good job of execut you

811
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:02,360
that in the second part. Sure, Part one might be

812
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,280
this setup, but it does not play off that way.

813
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,159
Just kind of feels like everything fell in her hands.

814
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,400
I'm like, well, I guess I'll do this. And Albava

815
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,000
did everything right because you said, because Alva knows Glinna

816
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,840
can do more good everything she's dead, I guess, Like sure,

817
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:21,559
but fucking Alva's so powerful, and they make the Wizard,

818
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,239
even Michelle Yall at time so kind of dumb. It

819
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,559
just feels like you could easily overthrow these people and

820
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,159
get the real message going, you know. And even then,

821
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:34,280
like that was the idea that before she saw the

822
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,199
animals locked for the base. When the wizards, like, Hey,

823
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:40,199
we're just gonna walk down together and say this was

824
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:41,639
a mistake. Whatever. We're gonna make up a story and

825
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,719
say Alpha is not bad. She's with us, and we'll

826
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,960
do so much magic for Oz. How can you still

827
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,440
not do that with the Glinda with the fucking bottle,

828
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,559
which we'll get to do with this bottle. It's like, oh, yeah,

829
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,280
you killed your daughter and you did these bad things.

830
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,159
You gotta go. And he goes very easy. He has

831
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,800
no reason to go right now, Michelle, y'all has powers,

832
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,480
Glinda does not. He if he's an evil guy, he

833
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840
has way more power to do any of this stuff.

834
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,480
And he just leaves Glenna just kind of like strong

835
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:10,400
arms in the Little versus the Witch, who could do

836
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,800
all this stuff can't do it. Like, that's what I

837
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,559
mean where I agree with you, Mike. I understand what

838
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,079
they're going for is the you know, that could be

839
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:19,800
the cover and she could be the symbol of evil

840
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,719
that we can fight against and unite everybody. I get that, right,

841
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,159
But I don't think with the other characters that are

842
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:28,280
posing that, it doesn't it doesn't seem that impossible, It

843
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,199
doesn't seem like that's needed and that's where even her

844
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,119
sacrifice doesn'teem that needed. And man, my probably last spoiler thing,

845
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:38,800
the reveal of Holy Moly. I thought it was a trick.

846
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:40,920
I was kind of hoping it was a trick where Okay,

847
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:43,599
Albafa dies, right, and I was happy because I didn't know,

848
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:45,800
I legitimate didn't know anything. I was happy she was

849
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,880
that Den just faked your death, because I felt like,

850
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,280
really over the top. I know it doesney original, but

851
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,679
I felt it's odd for us to like Albafa and

852
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:57,159
then see Dorothy, this unknowing girl kill her and like

853
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,360
throw water on her, like if it feels I'll see

854
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,360
Dorothy doesn't know. But I was like, this is a

855
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:03,840
really bad, dark ending, Like I'm fine with the fake

856
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,599
and your dad's everything, Glynn in Oz, that's fine. So

857
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:08,920
this happens and she leaves in Green Bottle there, right,

858
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,760
And that's where I've only truly seen Wicked part one one,

859
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,519
so I'd have to go back. But I felt like

860
00:40:13,559 --> 00:40:15,559
they've missed some stuff here. And even then, if this

861
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,199
happens in the play, I guess I'd have to see

862
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,159
if it's throughout the play in the book, so much

863
00:40:20,119 --> 00:40:24,280
this idea Glinda finds his bottle and it looks like

864
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,159
a bottle that the Wizard of Oz has, right, and

865
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:31,199
they do this very bad CGI deep fake flashback to

866
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,079
Jeff Golbewan or a young person's body. Right, So he

867
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,360
is there, he's dancing, and I guess he has there's

868
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,639
a one with him. He has an affair with Alpha's mother.

869
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,480
Let's see. You can actually hear Goldblum's voice at the

870
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400
beginning of part one, so it isn't a big reveal, Okay,

871
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,119
so I have to look out for that, right, But

872
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:53,000
to me, it's just the reason why even with that,

873
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,880
if I know Goldma was her dad, it doesn't like

874
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,800
it doesn't serve anything. It feels very much like you're

875
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,239
a Palpatine, Like it's just like, guess what that's that's

876
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,920
her dad, and it's like it changes nothing about the story.

877
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,679
I guess it gets that's what it does, right, It

878
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,679
gets the Wizard to run away because he feels that

879
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,400
he's really screwed up when you do. But I think

880
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,320
that they did not give Goldham enough time in that

881
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,639
scene and falling after, because Golden for the most part

882
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,320
feels also lup but very comedic even when he's a

883
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,599
bad guy. He's a comedic bad guy, right, He's making

884
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:24,760
jokes and I like him when he's in the when

885
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,000
he's in the cage and Glenna gets left and she's like,

886
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:31,719
oh my god, like she's crying and she's like, oh there,

887
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,840
I had a headache. He's like, oh, I have some

888
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,840
of this, it'll help you. Like I like Golden. I

889
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,199
think he's a perfect casting for the Wizard. I just

890
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:39,000
think it doesn't hit on the way that to make

891
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:42,920
him leave Oz. It doesn't hit that that knockout punch

892
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920
for me, And I just feel like that was something

893
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,599
that was unnecessary and the play they don't explicitly say,

894
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,239
they just hint at it okay, And I just wanted

895
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,239
to play like what does it do? Because the crux

896
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
of the thing is Alpha gets there. She has powers,

897
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,599
he doesn't. He's abusing people. She wants to help him.

898
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,719
He's actually the bad guy. She's actually the good guy.

899
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,360
What does the parentage do right? Like what is it even?

900
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Like even technically with the ray Palpatine thing, what does

901
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,119
that do? Nothing right? Because they just said like they're

902
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:12,559
a diet in the forest, right, you could easily have

903
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,360
had Palpatine know that and go, hey, I know what

904
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,199
diets fucking do. That's you two together. Diets can give

905
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,719
me the life force back. Technically, there's nothing that Ray

906
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,440
being a Palpatine does for the story and just adds

907
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,280
like a short in the world making it smaller. And

908
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,000
to me, that hurts the first part a little bit

909
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,239
in this movie because obviously to the play it's hint

910
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,280
app in the movie, it's like that is her dad,

911
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,880
and it just feels it's like making the world smaller

912
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,719
for an unnecessary reason in my opinion. So when that happened,

913
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,800
I was like, I'm failing this. I'm failing this. It's over,

914
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,400
it's done, And I guess I guess I need that

915
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:48,400
explain to you. It's I understood because Glenna says that.

916
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:50,639
Mike go like, oh, she's so powerful cause she's of

917
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:55,840
both worlds. Like what is like was being from like

918
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,599
your dad being uh aw Auzarian or whatever the hell

919
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,880
they are, Like, how does it get you more powerful? Right? Like?

920
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,199
I would feel like if we're looking at like mutants

921
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,320
or wizards, right like, oh, both Harry Harry Potter's parents

922
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,559
are wizard that would make sense they are more powerful Harry, right,

923
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,079
Why does someone be a human and someone being a

924
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,760
wizard make them more stronger like that? I don't know,

925
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,960
And that's not a big hole for me. Sure, whatever

926
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,760
the rules of the world are, you can do that.

927
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,440
I just think that you could have made her dad

928
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,880
at any point, like just make her dad human. Then

929
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,400
I don't like, I don't know, and I guess. So

930
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,880
I guess there's people specific because it's Jeff Goldblin and

931
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,480
her dad. Are they not just humans? And the same

932
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,199
logic as Superman's son me half human makes them stronger,

933
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,400
which I don't agree with. I don't understand. I don't understand.

934
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,039
But Mike, this is like not critique. What is so

935
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:49,079
like her you know dad that she her legal dad

936
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,400
and then the Wizard? Are they not just humans like

937
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,760
it is technically being ods like a completely different like

938
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,159
not even just like species like that. I'll say, I know,

939
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:02,920
there's bunch kids. I guess it's like I thought the

940
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,880
OZ guy like the Wizard, not the OZ guy, Wizard

941
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,800
is a human and heard now was that? And maybe not?

942
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,960
And maybe if that's the case, then sure, And again

943
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:13,880
that's not even the biggest hold up for me as well,

944
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,119
because it's just the sense of I I get that

945
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,599
it makes her so powerful, but you don't even you

946
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:21,760
don't necessarily even need that. Just say she's powerful, like,

947
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,199
it just doesn't change too much of the main story

948
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:25,800
for me, right to be a crux. It just feels

949
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,920
like a reveal for the sake of being a reveal.

950
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480
So yeah, I was I thought I would like this

951
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,000
one a little bit less, but I was still pretty

952
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:36,239
let down by it all. I don't think I will

953
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,960
watch this again. To me, I can happily watch part

954
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,360
one and like I said, just just go that way,

955
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,199
just say, oh, everything that happens, even if it's her

956
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,119
fake and her death and escape with John and Bailey,

957
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:50,639
like I can. I can whatever headcanon that or just

958
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,880
it's a what half that that's why she's the way

959
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,400
she is, right, Okay, oz Arians are technically not human.

960
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:58,159
I guess I'm with you. Okay, No, that's fine, and

961
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,519
that's fine. That helps me a little bit, right. I

962
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:03,159
thought they were just kind of saying of like he's

963
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,320
it's like if I'm if we're Canadian, Mike and we

964
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,039
have a child with Americans, like, oh, they're more strong

965
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:11,760
because American Canadian blood. I was like, is that how

966
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,840
that works. But okay, if he's Ausarian, sure there's there's

967
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,920
something in the waters there that works between that and that.

968
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,920
And like I said, it's just it's an odd thing.

969
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,800
So yeah, not like anything. This movie isn't like And

970
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,639
like I said, when I say it has minecraft right

971
00:45:26,679 --> 00:45:30,199
Skywalker isms, it's not those levels. It's just that there's

972
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,039
moments that feel like that. Right where thoughts of Domingo cameo,

973
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,679
I can't give them because I was not lying in

974
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,119
the discord, because I so what happened was, uh, girls

975
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,519
were fine, you know, got palpcorn drinks and then Logan

976
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:50,159
right after Michelle Yell and Glinda have their scene about like, oh,

977
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,719
you should just play your role, you'll be good. And

978
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,280
I like Michelle Yell on this movie. She's fun as

979
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,119
just being an asshole, right, she should be a villain

980
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,960
somewhere else. That's when she had to wash room, so

981
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,559
we're going. And then when I came back, it was

982
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,559
the start of the scene of Albafa and Glinda talking

983
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,519
and I like talking about like what they're gonna do

984
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:08,239
and change it for good and I have to die

985
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,079
all that type of stuff, right, which I didn't agree with.

986
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,719
The time, so I missed when he actually spoke, so

987
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,679
when I got back, and then because at one moment

988
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,800
when I asked when she like misunderstoods that, oh no,

989
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,360
he didn't talk. She thought it was almost a particular scene.

990
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,519
But so I missed all that. I even went on

991
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:26,400
Twitter to look at sometimes there's leaks. I went on

992
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,159
Twitter try and find the scene of it to hear

993
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,760
his voice, and I didn't, So I missed that entire

994
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,159
sequence because they had to go the the washroom, which

995
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,280
you know, it's it's a longer like kids me right,

996
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,719
most of the movies are seeing her like hour and

997
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,760
a half hour forty, so it was longer they got treat.

998
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,639
So I obviously I know they will watch it again,

999
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:45,159
so I'll look out for it then, But uh, how

1000
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,239
is it for you, Mike, because you were more like

1001
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,199
if you about it? But yeah, and that's stuff that

1002
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,599
like I guess it's how that's where the stuff where

1003
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,840
it's it's just like, yeah, it was Teo lines, which

1004
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,679
makes sense how I missed it, But that's where there's

1005
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:00,679
stuff like oh, it's like the planet when the tim's

1006
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,360
like and I'm gonna fucking kill the fuck and she's

1007
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,119
the worst person. I was like, this is like ten

1008
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,360
Man's not acting like this and Wizard of Oz and

1009
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,239
that's where I just wish it was like a whole

1010
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,920
distorted kind of version of it, like a multiverse, what

1011
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:14,679
if a Wizard of Oz not trying to kind of

1012
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,320
interlinking it with that, like that just didn't really work

1013
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,119
for me there, right, and that it's just kind of

1014
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:24,079
fell a little cheat that seemed too. But yeah, it

1015
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,679
was an interesting watch. This was one that I regretted

1016
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,880
not going the first one the theaters, and I regret

1017
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,400
it going this one. But then I didn't today, like

1018
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,760
I say, when I got to school with the kids,

1019
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,159
because I knew that I had said on the first

1020
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,960
one the newscast or whatnot, that my sister's taking them.

1021
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,400
We have told her that they've seen us, so hopefully

1022
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,840
shuldn't see this broadcast. But then she's like, oh, yeah,

1023
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,480
three weeks from three weeks, like people from school are

1024
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,760
gonna see it. They want to talk about any it,

1025
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,199
said the second Logan. I didn't because with Gwen and Logan,

1026
00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:50,679
they're on different side of the school. I walk Logan

1027
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:52,880
because she's younger, don't know what happened with Gwen. But

1028
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:54,679
right when they saw it, like did you see Wicked

1029
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:56,239
this week? Did you see Wicked? And they talked about

1030
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,280
so I was like, yeah, like I don't want her

1031
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,000
to miss out. And some kids sock, right, some cause

1032
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,199
like oh, well this happened. This happened for them. They

1033
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:04,199
don't know everything, and even though I didn't know stuff,

1034
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,559
right so after, you know, I don't regret. I'm very

1035
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:08,079
happy I took them so they could talk about with

1036
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:10,159
their friends. And it's still a fun time. Like I

1037
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,559
still like they had a good time. I wasn't at

1038
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:14,760
least bored by it or anything, like there's worst things

1039
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,920
I've seen in theater this year. There's worst thing I've

1040
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,679
seen and other stuff you got your great dad points yeah,

1041
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,440
and that's what it's for, right, Like that's the same thing.

1042
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:25,159
Like I still never fully rewatch it, but I remember

1043
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:27,719
really enjoying thor Love and Thunder. But that's because they

1044
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,719
saw Gwen and we had a good time through, right,

1045
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,320
Like think about that scene in the end when all

1046
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,320
the kids get the powers and fight. So I remember

1047
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480
walking to be like, oh I loved it, Like that

1048
00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:37,760
was a great time. Where now I think I watched

1049
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,119
like the first act as like, oh yeah, maybe not

1050
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:42,880
the greatest, and I've seen some points that people have,

1051
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,559
but that's where all the time, seeing the theaters is better, right,

1052
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,199
and seeing here, I was hoping they hit a couple

1053
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:51,400
of notes of define gravity. I was hoping they'd run

1054
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,000
it back because I wasn't there the first time, so

1055
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:55,400
I was hoping they were gonna do that, and they

1056
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,400
did not. There are just a few bars of it,

1057
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,639
but yeah, no, that's my thoughts on so yeah, I

1058
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:03,119
did not. Kudos to you, Mike for stick it through.

1059
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:04,760
I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I can see why

1060
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,079
you could give it like a five on year's perspective,

1061
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:09,039
because we all have that like those type of stuff

1062
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,320
right where there's things that just hit certain like I'm

1063
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,159
that way with walls and grunt, where like the news

1064
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:15,960
walls and growm it. I think it might be one

1065
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,159
of the more weaker ones that they've done, but they

1066
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:20,639
still hit on all the isms and I enjoy the humor.

1067
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,199
I enjoy the character beats that's like, yeah, this is fine,

1068
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,519
Like this hits exactly what I want. So that's where

1069
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:27,599
I'm curious to end up talking more people like Mike

1070
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,880
that really enjoy the play and now they feel about this,

1071
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,840
and I think most people might be, you know, in

1072
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,920
line on the liking side, where someone like myself definitely

1073
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,559
enjoyed that first one. This one, I was kind of

1074
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,719
hoping would be more of the same, but not so much.

1075
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,800
Performances are great. I will be very curious obviously all

1076
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,840
the production stuff they're gonna get for Oscar season. Now

1077
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,119
that's a question of what happens with the other stuff, right.

1078
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:49,719
I think there'll be some non nations, but I don't

1079
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,199
think best picture. I think grand is getting the best

1080
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:55,000
supporting non but I I don't think a win. I

1081
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:56,559
think the movie's gonna lose some steam, and I think

1082
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:59,039
Amy Mannigan I still think Tay like I think there's

1083
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:02,159
a good chance, with how the movie performed critically and

1084
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,559
how it is kind of relevant, he thinks he's getting

1085
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:08,559
and I would pizza bet you, Mike, I would pizza

1086
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:10,320
bet you that she's not getting that. I do think

1087
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,480
it's a bit of a smaller field this year, so

1088
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,239
I think there's a chance. But I think something like

1089
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,239
one bet opt for or another. I think that is

1090
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,280
prime opportunity for Tiana Taylor get because I think it's

1091
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,960
gonna sweep a lot. I think it's gonna be hit

1092
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,199
a lot of just yeah right that that quarter gra

1093
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:26,360
that category, that category, that category, like I just think

1094
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,920
it hits with a lot of the political stuff that

1095
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,559
people lean in that way, right, So that's it. So yeah,

1096
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,079
I guess both tras told you this week are review

1097
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:36,440
So there's my thoughts on the box office and we

1098
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,840
could for good. I'll do Stranger Things Volume one later

1099
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,880
on this week and if there's any big news we'll

1100
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,119
incorporate that. But thank you everyone that listened to much.

1101
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,679
I'll thank everyone, Mike, thank you for just being a

1102
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:48,599
ghost for this, being my person to throw it to

1103
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:51,280
some questions and whatnot in this And yeah, hopefully after

1104
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,519
nine will book for Decemmer we can actually talk about

1105
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:56,039
plus one's more people have seen it. But yes, I'll

1106
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,760
be back on Wednesday. I promise you go A lot

1107
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,360
be boring.