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Speaker 6: Welcome to Methus Lyns Podcast, the place where the conversations
Speaker 6: are always in the lightning.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Doc Brown, and here we.
Speaker 6: Like to use the allegory of the Prometheus lens to
Speaker 6: take a second look at everything. Well, guys, I got
Speaker 6: a great discussion lined up for you.
Speaker 2: Guys. I'm excited to talk to this man.
Speaker 6: We've exchanged some messages back and forth through Facebook Direct Messenger,
Speaker 6: and we've talked about everything from giants to what's wrong
Speaker 6: with Christianity to Aliens. We've already had some good conversations,
Speaker 6: so I know this one's gonna flow well. He is
Speaker 6: a recent author, and I believe this is his first book.
Speaker 6: But the title of it is Genesis six in the
Speaker 6: Old Arks. So we're gonna be getting into some neph
Speaker 6: Lean giants.
Speaker 2: Today, y'all.
Speaker 6: I know you're going to thoroughly enjoy that.
Speaker 2: But I like to look over the show for the.
Speaker 6: First time and hopefully the first of many. Nick Daegel, Nick,
Speaker 6: thank you brother for coming on.
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for inviting me. Doc. Yeah, so this is
Speaker 3: my first book. Kind of what got me down this
Speaker 3: path is about two years ago. I read through Genesis,
Speaker 3: never really quite taken the dive to go into Genesis
Speaker 3: and see what it really entails. I've always kind of
Speaker 3: hung around, you know, Matthew, Mark Luke, and John the
Speaker 3: New Testament. That was kind of my comfort zone. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, I need to start delving
Speaker 3: into some of these other books, especially the Older Testament.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the foundation of the New Testament.
Speaker 3: So started to read through Genesis, got through Genesis one
Speaker 3: one through five. I meant understand the creation story. You
Speaker 3: hear that from Sunday School. I meant, it's we hear
Speaker 3: about you hear about it growing up. But there was
Speaker 3: still some little little things that God really pointed out
Speaker 3: to me that I thought were very beautiful. You know,
Speaker 3: whenever God is creating everything in the Seven Days, the
Speaker 3: one thing that's different is with man. God decided to
Speaker 3: actually form us with his own hands and to breathe
Speaker 3: his own breath into our life. Whereas everything else he
Speaker 3: spoke it into existence. With us, he actually sat down,
Speaker 3: crafted us and breathed his spirit within to us. And
Speaker 3: that like, there was little things that God showed me
Speaker 3: as I was reading through it, that it was very
Speaker 3: beautiful and just shows us just to show us how
Speaker 3: much we mean to him, Like he is that much
Speaker 3: into the details of our lives and he wants to
Speaker 3: be that involved with who we are that he sits
Speaker 3: down and he makes us. So just some beautiful things
Speaker 3: that he pointed out to me. And then I get
Speaker 3: to Genesis six and I'm like, this is right before
Speaker 3: the flood. There's this little bit where it talks about
Speaker 3: the sons of God going into the darters of Man
Speaker 3: and creating the nephilum, and I'm like, what the heck
Speaker 3: does this mean? Like had never never even heard of this.
Speaker 3: It was a whole new idea. I mean, I know,
Speaker 3: I heard of another Bible story you hear a lot
Speaker 3: of in Sunday School is David and Goliath. So you
Speaker 3: hear about Goliath, and I'm like, all right, I've heard
Speaker 3: about giants. I know, when the Twelve Spies go into
Speaker 3: the land of Canaan, they see these, you know, really
Speaker 3: tall people that they felt like grasshoppers in their eyes.
Speaker 3: Was that allegory, I don't know, but according to this
Speaker 3: they seem pretty tall. So I knew the Bible had
Speaker 3: talked about people of unusual size, but I wasn't aware
Speaker 3: of the just the conspiracy that really went into it
Speaker 3: all to simple fact that they weren't actually people either.
Speaker 3: They were it was a completely different creature. So it
Speaker 3: really got me onto a journey of trying to discover
Speaker 3: what this Genesis six narrative means. And at the time,
Speaker 3: so where my kids I have very little ones a nine, six,
Speaker 3: three and soon to be a newborn in a couple
Speaker 3: of months. But where my six year old son and
Speaker 3: three year old daughter go to daycare is Her name
Speaker 3: is Suzanne and Suzanne's husband, Paul, he actually passed away
Speaker 3: about a year and a half ago. He was pretty
Speaker 3: pivotal in me helping to understand what the Nephelum were. So,
Speaker 3: Paul was a huge supporter of SkyWatch TV, Joe Horn
Speaker 3: Tom Like. He watched a lot of Tom horn Like.
Speaker 3: He actually whenever he passed, she gave me all of
Speaker 3: his material and the guy had had sixty plus videos
Speaker 3: from SkyWatch, So I mean, I've gotten them all, you two.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So it was actually through Paul and his
Speaker 3: interest that I started to watch a lot of like
Speaker 3: these SkyWatch documentaries and videos. The one that really stuck
Speaker 3: out to me was I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 3: seen the oh what is it? It is Angels and Giants,
Speaker 3: the Nephelum and the Watchers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the innerd thing of the cloud Eaters. That was
Speaker 6: a really big one for me because they teamed up
Speaker 6: with Steve Quail and uh Alberino on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I can't remember who who was on Angels and
Speaker 3: Giant but it had it had Tom Horn on there.
Speaker 3: L A. Morzoli was on there. I believe Alberino was
Speaker 3: on there. Fritz Zimmerman had a little cameo on there
Speaker 3: and a few others, a few other.
Speaker 2: The big giants of our giant space.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Doug van Dorn was another one
Speaker 3: on there. So that's where. And in this documentary they
Speaker 3: go to several megalithic sites and they talk about, I mean,
Speaker 3: they really just go in depth, lay in a good
Speaker 3: foundation of how all these megalithic sites across the world,
Speaker 3: these pyramids, how they weren't actually built by the people
Speaker 3: that lived in that area at the time, like we're
Speaker 3: taught through mainstream history, but how these were actually probably
Speaker 3: built by these Nephelo giants who were the children of
Speaker 3: the daughters of Man and the sons of God. So
Speaker 3: just watching that it kind of gave me a good foundation.
Speaker 3: And after I mean it was probably a good three
Speaker 3: or four months where I was just soaking this stuff up,
Speaker 3: watching documentary after documentary. I'm not as much of a reader,
Speaker 3: I'm more of a audio visual learner, So mine was definitely
Speaker 3: more of watching a lot of different documentaries on it,
Speaker 3: watching a lot of Alberino interviews on podcasts, stuff like that. Well,
Speaker 3: after I consumed a lot of like, all right, I
Speaker 3: need to let this digest a little bit because I
Speaker 3: kind of soaked it up like a sponge, soaked it
Speaker 3: up like a sponge really quick. So I was like,
Speaker 3: let me let this digest because I want to make
Speaker 3: sure that what I'm taking in it's true. I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like those who are believers, we want to
Speaker 3: make sure we're filling ourselves up with the truth because
Speaker 3: we know that as much as the truth is out there,
Speaker 3: there's also lies. So God tells us to discern with
Speaker 3: the discerning spirit. So I really wanted to, you know,
Speaker 3: talk to my pastor about it and just work through it. Well,
Speaker 3: it's funny because after I put all that away for
Speaker 3: a little while, I decided to watch on Netflix Ancient Apocalypse.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've ever seen an Ancient Apocalypse
Speaker 3: with Grand Hancock.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so good it is.
Speaker 3: Oh And so I watched it not even thinking about
Speaker 3: the Nephlum or the flood or anything like that, nothing
Speaker 3: about Genesis six, only to realize, holy crap, this whole
Speaker 3: documentary had elements of Genesis six all throughout it. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 3: every single ancient civilization had a flood myth The younger
Speaker 3: well in Hancock presents it as the Younger dry Is
Speaker 3: at the end of the last Ice Age, cataclysmic floods
Speaker 3: wiping everything out, and in with every one of those
Speaker 3: flood myths, there was a at the end of the
Speaker 3: cataclysmic event, there was some kind of traveler, unknown traveler,
Speaker 3: bearded traveler who came to each so or each group
Speaker 3: of people and spread knowledge, showed them how to build
Speaker 3: civilization back up. And they were almost looked at as
Speaker 3: gods among men, especially for the knowledge that they brought. Well,
Speaker 3: and it's just it's also interesting because he goes to
Speaker 3: several different megalithic sites and even some of the earth
Speaker 3: I think Poverty Point, the Mound down there in Louisiana,
Speaker 3: and he he makes claim that all of these different
Speaker 3: sites was most likely inspired and influenced by this advanced
Speaker 3: civilization that came after the the Younger Dryest. Well, what's
Speaker 3: funny is then I feel like Kencock starts to talk
Speaker 3: about the lore of all of them, and in several
Speaker 3: of them, what do they have stories of giants? I
Speaker 3: think it was the Pyramid of Kolua where they said
Speaker 3: there was giants that built the pyramid to escape a
Speaker 3: global flood and they hit intop the pyramid. Then you
Speaker 3: had Sutsuna, who was this female giant that built the
Speaker 3: temple of Giguntilla, and Giguntia literally means giant, and like
Speaker 3: it just I don't know it. Just for me, it
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 6: Vericocha, remember he created giants and then that was the
Speaker 6: whole reason he wrote the flood was because they were
Speaker 6: so wicked and vile. So that's the whole reason Vakocha
Speaker 6: and his story brought the flood was to destroy the giants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really hadn't much I haven't had much
Speaker 3: chance to like looking at each individual flood myths. It
Speaker 3: was for me watching that. I mean, this was a
Speaker 3: secular it's a secular documentary. I meant, yes, I know
Speaker 3: that mainstream says Graham Hancock's a kook, but I don't
Speaker 3: really think he is. I meant, the dude's smorrow. He's
Speaker 3: all over it.
Speaker 2: He's just missing, he's got everything labeled wrong.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's that's how I feel one hundred percent too.
Speaker 3: But it's just interesting. I'm like, man, this is from
Speaker 3: a secular viewpoint, from someone who is in the secular world,
Speaker 3: and this is backing up what we're seeing in Genesis six,
Speaker 3: and this is backing up everything that I had previously
Speaker 3: watched in a lot of the SkyWatch material and resources.
Speaker 3: So really that got me. That really sparked an interest
Speaker 3: in kind of amateur archaeology for me, I guess you
Speaker 3: could say. And like I said, so, I'm actually a
Speaker 3: hospice nurse and my wife's a teacher. She is, she's
Speaker 3: pregnant for our fourth child, and next year she's not
Speaker 3: gonna work. But as we were talking before, I'm not
Speaker 3: really in that point in my life where I could just,
Speaker 3: you know, go on a week vacation go see some
Speaker 3: of these megalithic sites. I'd love to go see the
Speaker 3: pyramids in Egypt. I'd love to go see some of
Speaker 3: the pyramids in Mexico, in Guatemala, the megalithic sites in Peru,
Speaker 3: even Kahokia, which is three hours away in Saint Louis,
Speaker 3: just east of Saint Louis. I mean, it's the biggest
Speaker 3: earthen mound in North America. I'd love to go there
Speaker 3: and see that, but it's hard to with three soon
Speaker 3: before little ones working full time to be able to
Speaker 3: do that. So I wanted to. I was really intrigued
Speaker 3: about seeing is there any evidence locally for me? Going
Speaker 3: back to Fritz Zimmerman, he has a book called let
Speaker 3: me see what is it? I have it right here.
Speaker 3: It's the Encyclopedia of Ancient Giants in North America. Well,
Speaker 3: in that book I found reference to two articles where
Speaker 3: one was from nineteen thirty four, another one was from
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety nine where people around this area in Springfield,
Speaker 3: Missouri found seven foot skeletons. One was buried in a cave,
Speaker 3: another one was buried in a shallow burial mound off
Speaker 3: one of the James River which is close to Springfield.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, Fritzimmerman put this in his book.
Speaker 3: I want to find where these sites are at. So
Speaker 3: really that started a journey. And what my book is
Speaker 3: about is it talks about me getting into and learning
Speaker 3: on this path about with the Nephela Moore. But then
Speaker 3: it goes into my journey of discovering and researching and
Speaker 3: finding these particular places where I believe both of these
Speaker 3: seven foot skeletons were found. Was interesting. I mean, I
Speaker 3: can go into somebody detail I'll go into let me
Speaker 3: go into the detail about So there was the guy
Speaker 3: who his name was Sterling Newbery, and was pretty interesting
Speaker 3: about this Sterling Newberry. He was a missionary Baptist, but
Speaker 3: he was also an amateur archaeologist. Well, in Fritzimmerman's book,
Speaker 3: the article that he posts or puts in there just
Speaker 3: talks about the seven foot skeleton being found. Well, I
Speaker 3: did a deeper dive and research into Sterling Newberry himself,
Speaker 3: looking through old newspaper archives, and I found several articles
Speaker 3: that I truly believe could point to a Nephelim like
Speaker 3: culture that would have been here in this area. First off, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's honestly, it's really amazing what you can find getting
Speaker 3: into some of these old newspaper archives typing in giant
Speaker 3: skeleton or burial mounds anything like, Like, you just find
Speaker 3: some stuff that you find articles about things they found
Speaker 3: one hundred years ago. Is like, yeah, that's that doesn't
Speaker 3: seem to go along with what we've been told about
Speaker 3: out the Native Americans. That seems like a little different
Speaker 3: than what I've been fed throughout grade school. But anyway,
Speaker 3: So the first one, there's this site here called full
Speaker 3: Bright Springs. Full Bright Springs is when white settlers came here.
Speaker 3: The full Bright family settled this spring it was like
Speaker 3: the first home, I think the first homestead when the
Speaker 3: white pioneers were coming out this way to Missouri, Western Missouri.
Speaker 3: What's interesting is there is it has now become it's
Speaker 3: a park, so they have put the city has put
Speaker 3: a bike path in this full Bright Spring area. And
Speaker 3: this bike path they call it the one of the
Speaker 3: Greenway trails. It goes four or five miles and it
Speaker 3: goes through full Bright Spring and continues on to other
Speaker 3: parks north north of Springfield. And there's also at least
Speaker 3: one hundred year old water pumping station there that I
Speaker 3: mean they built it one hundred years ago. It was
Speaker 3: because they have turned Fulbright Spring. They dammed it up
Speaker 3: and they turned it into one of the main sources
Speaker 3: of water for the Springfield area. Well, okay, what's interesting
Speaker 3: is I'm glad that they still have that pumping station
Speaker 3: there because in this I found an article from nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty two where in this article it talks about two
Speaker 3: burial mounds that were found on a hill that was
Speaker 3: north of the Fulbright pumping station. So, uh yeah, so
Speaker 3: I had a location on one of them. So I've
Speaker 3: gone there. And what's interesting is, like I said, there's
Speaker 3: a bike path, so it's it's open to the public.
Speaker 3: It's owned by the city, but it's open to the public.
Speaker 3: Where these two burial mounds are at it's deep in
Speaker 3: the woods, so.
Speaker 2: They're still there. Maybe they leveled it out by now
Speaker 2: or so.
Speaker 3: That's that's the interesting thing. In the article, Newberry doesn't
Speaker 3: really say that. He does him and his son go
Speaker 3: and they excavate these two burial mounds. But in this
Speaker 3: article from nineteen thirty two for the full Bright Burials,
Speaker 3: he doesn't say what size the skeletons are. There's still
Speaker 3: some pretty interesting characteristics about them because the first one
Speaker 3: was the most north mound. He unearthed it and he
Speaker 3: found a skeleton in there where the skull was painted red,
Speaker 3: which I thought that was very unique, a red like
Speaker 3: they just before when this person died, they just painted
Speaker 3: it red. And Newberry believed this person would have been
Speaker 3: of someone of high importance or some kind of chieftain,
Speaker 3: which as I've studied this, it seems like a lot
Speaker 3: of the Nephelm giants. They were revered as you know,
Speaker 3: some kind of leader or chieftain they were. They were
Speaker 3: the top dogs.
Speaker 2: In the Bible too.
Speaker 6: Do you ever notice that nick that's in the Bible
Speaker 6: because all the odd kings and stuff were giants.
Speaker 2: And then even when they picked.
Speaker 6: Saul, Yeah, a lot of people look over it, but
Speaker 6: there was a little caveat in there. It says that
Speaker 6: they the whole reason they selected Saul was because he
Speaker 6: was head and shoulders taller than the rest, and they
Speaker 6: specifically said they wanted a king like the other nations.
Speaker 6: Nations had giant kings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I even wonder Pharaoh was a Pharaoh could have
Speaker 3: possibly been a Nephelom or some kind of Nephelim like ruler.
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's a very interesting I never caught I mean,
Speaker 3: I know that it's said that Saul was a head
Speaker 3: taller than everybody else, so he would have been probably
Speaker 3: at least seven foot six and a half seven foot
Speaker 3: I meant. But anyway, and there were of la Morzuli
Speaker 3: I digress, so the skull is painted red. And then
Speaker 3: just south of that there was another burial mound where
Speaker 3: there was seven skeletons a ligne like the spokes on
Speaker 3: a wheel. And I was like, man, that's a very
Speaker 3: interesting characteristic also for a burial mound. Yeah, to answer
Speaker 3: your question, I can go hike up there right now
Speaker 3: and find the remains of these burial mounds. You can see,
Speaker 3: if you were not aware of the newspaper article, you'd
Speaker 3: look right past him. You just think it's the lay
Speaker 3: of the land or the start of a sinkhole or
Speaker 3: something like that. But what's funny is actually about a
Speaker 3: year ago I went out there and I was walking
Speaker 3: around in the wooded area, and there was a younger guy,
Speaker 3: probably in his twenties, riding his bicycle around mountain bike
Speaker 3: and jumping over these burial mounds. And I told him.
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, these are burial mounds. He's like, no,
Speaker 3: they're not, because he was kind of he was taking
Speaker 3: aback that I was up there walking around and he
Speaker 3: I mean, he kind of startled me too, but I
Speaker 3: was like, yes they are. So I pulled out my
Speaker 3: phone and I showed him the article. He turned pale
Speaker 3: as a ghost, and he's like, this place feels different
Speaker 3: now that I know. He's like, this place feels different
Speaker 3: now that I know what this is. I've never seen
Speaker 3: that poor kid out there riding that bike anymore.
Speaker 2: You ruined bike stuck.
Speaker 3: There's other places anyway. So but yeah, you can go there,
Speaker 3: you can see where the Indian Chieftain Mound is at
Speaker 3: because you see part of the burial mound and then
Speaker 3: just a little divid in the very top. And then
Speaker 3: if you go just a little south of that, you
Speaker 3: see another mound that's been excavated a little more. Well,
Speaker 3: that would make sense because there was seven and buried
Speaker 3: like the spokes on a wheel. Well, I really believe
Speaker 3: that that spokes on a wheel is some kind of
Speaker 3: nephelim burial practice because in frit Zimmerman's book, he makes
Speaker 3: reference to multiple mound sites in the Ohio and Indiana
Speaker 3: areas where there have been spoke mound burials. And I
Speaker 3: mean majority of the mound complexes are in Ohio and Indiana.
Speaker 3: That's where it seems like these they constructed most of
Speaker 3: these mound complexes. But one interesting one is in nineteen
Speaker 3: twenty in Indiana, there was a farmer who unearthed a
Speaker 3: spoke mound burial where there was eight skeletons lined up
Speaker 3: like the spokes on a wheel. Well, one of the
Speaker 3: skeletons was anywhere from eight to nine foot tall. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's the connection right there. You got a
Speaker 3: spoke mound bear with a recorded eight to nine footer.
Speaker 3: Then you have a spoke mountin burial over here in
Speaker 3: Springfield where kid, a kid is riding a bike around
Speaker 3: thinking it's just a cool place to jump, you know,
Speaker 3: jump his mountain bike. So it for me that right
Speaker 3: there was like this is one shred piece of evidence,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like so it's kind of like you, like,
Speaker 3: I know, whenever you talked about your book, you said
Speaker 3: it was like laying out pieces of a puzzle and
Speaker 3: you're having to put them together. That's exact I know
Speaker 3: You're you're doing that with the Bible and you know,
Speaker 3: extra biblical text. For me, I felt the exact same way,
Speaker 3: but I was doing it with newspaper clippings and old newspaper,
Speaker 3: not newspaper, old books of the history of Springfield that
Speaker 3: I found, it found in the library, genealogical records, plat maps,
Speaker 3: Like it was still with that same feeling of putting
Speaker 3: together a puzzle to get the full picture. Because what's
Speaker 3: also interesting, like I said, Sterling Newberry found these two
Speaker 3: burial mounds well about twenty years earlier, in nineteen fourteen.
Speaker 3: There's a book called, I think it's called The History
Speaker 3: of Springfield, And there was a portion in there where
Speaker 3: it's talking about the cave dwellers, and this portion was written,
Speaker 3: I think you've used on a video on cave dwellers before,
Speaker 3: haven't you. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think they're's heavily influenced by nepheline slash wild Man
Speaker 6: because all the legends and lower they they're all cavell Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So what's interesting is this Fulbright area is very cavernous.
Speaker 3: There's multiple caves there. Well, about a mile mile and
Speaker 3: a half east of where these burial mountd are at,
Speaker 3: there was a cave in nineteen fourteen that a guy
Speaker 3: named em Shepherd. Em Shepherd was a He was a
Speaker 3: dean and also professor at one of the local universities here. Well,
Speaker 3: he wrote in this book he wrote a little excerpt
Speaker 3: in this book on the history of Springfield that he
Speaker 3: found that he was alerted to a cave close to
Speaker 3: the Owens property. Well, when I looked at an old
Speaker 3: plat map. So there was a cave close to what's
Speaker 3: where there's this now Lost Hill Park is at Lost
Speaker 3: Hill Park is proud, Like I said, probably a mile
Speaker 3: mile and a half on the same greenway trail on
Speaker 3: the full Bright Greenway trail from where these burial mounds
Speaker 3: were at, and there's multiple caves in this Lost Hill park. Well. Anyway,
Speaker 3: he writes that he was alerted to some strange bones
Speaker 3: that were found within one of the caves. There one
Speaker 3: key characteristic about these strange bones he found there was
Speaker 3: multiple thigh bones, and these thigh bones were broken in
Speaker 3: half and bone marrow had been extracted from the thigh bones.
Speaker 3: You know that sounds like cannibalistic activity. What's also interesting
Speaker 3: is when I was looking into Lovelock Cave in love Lock,
Speaker 3: Nevada with the red haired giants after the Piute Indians
Speaker 3: burned them alive, and later on they go and they
Speaker 3: escavate I think it was in the thirties they excavated
Speaker 3: Lovelock Cave or something. I'm not sure of the date.
Speaker 3: But they also found thigh bones in there that were
Speaker 3: broken in half and the bone marrow extracted. So it's like, yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: I heard that on one of the documentaries I watched
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: About very interesting connection.
Speaker 3: Yeah, John, like thank you. I was like, holy crap.
Speaker 3: So you have a burial mound with spoke mound burial
Speaker 3: matching where there has been known giants. Then you have
Speaker 3: a cave that shows evidence of cannibalistic activity matching another
Speaker 3: cave where there has been recorded giants. I'm like, this
Speaker 3: area has to be where Nephel and Rome I have
Speaker 3: I have never personally. And this is funny because my
Speaker 3: friend Kent went out there with me, and Kent's made
Speaker 3: the comment it feels very squatchy here too. I know
Speaker 3: that one would probably intrigue you. I know you like
Speaker 3: this squatch And there was actually one time. I don't
Speaker 3: know if this was my mind playing tricks on me
Speaker 3: or not, but I was in this area. Anytime I
Speaker 3: go out there, I'm not gonna lie. I usually quote
Speaker 3: scripture as i'm walking, or i'll single worship song and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep doing that because He's the only thing
Speaker 3: that can protect us correct and with his divine protection,
Speaker 3: we are guarded. But anyway, I was out there and
Speaker 3: it was not a windy day, so I can't blame
Speaker 3: this on the wind. But I smelled what smelled like
Speaker 3: a dead animal, just all of a sudden come up
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, and I'm like, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: just said this verbally. I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you are what I think it is. But if it is,
Speaker 3: I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. And that
Speaker 3: smell dissipated, I don't know. I mean so like I
Speaker 3: go back and forth, like was that something trying to manifest?
Speaker 3: Was it not? There is evidence that there were nephelin there,
Speaker 3: so it most likely could have been something trying to manifest.
Speaker 3: But and the fact that it wasn't windy, it didn't
Speaker 3: blow a smell of a decaying animal. I didn't see
Speaker 3: any dead animals around, so I kind of wonder if
Speaker 3: that could have been a bigfoot trying to rear ugly head.
Speaker 3: But by saying I rebuke in the name of Jesus,
Speaker 3: I mean it went away. That's that's my story. That's
Speaker 3: all I can say about it. So you kind of
Speaker 3: make what you will of it.
Speaker 7: Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most
Speaker 7: people never think about what they're carrying. We do because
Speaker 7: preparedness isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway.
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Speaker 3: But we know there's polish.
Speaker 6: What I talk about in the book, you know, one
Speaker 6: of the things I talk about how a lot of
Speaker 6: people get the woo woo. You know, some people have
Speaker 6: physical you know, on footprints and hair, and some people
Speaker 6: see shadow apparitions and portals and even some orbs. Sometimes
Speaker 6: I talk about I trace it back to the Nephilim
Speaker 6: and Esau interbreeding with the known nephliin giant tribes. How
Speaker 6: the book Enoch says that their spirits were cursed to
Speaker 6: Rome and torment mankind, and through that union there they
Speaker 6: end up birth in the Amalekites. And through scripture and
Speaker 6: the extra biblical texts, it was said that they were
Speaker 6: known sorcerers and shape shifters. And Esau was a hairy
Speaker 6: big man. His father in law was named sea Air,
Speaker 6: so that the etymology that word means Harry.
Speaker 2: So he here's this hairy.
Speaker 6: Man marrying into this tribe of Harry Farrell giants, that
Speaker 6: were known sorcerers. So you know, I tell people, I
Speaker 6: think the Wu is basically the spirits of these beings,
Speaker 6: and they're taken familiar form. They were you know, what
Speaker 6: we would probably call a feral giant race. So yeah,
Speaker 6: they're showing up these big, harry looking men in and
Speaker 6: out of portals and all that kind of wo wo stuff,
Speaker 6: because maybe they're the remnants of those spirits that the
Speaker 6: Bookienoch talked about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's interesting. And actually, so when I did
Speaker 3: get your audiobook and I listened to it, there was
Speaker 3: one part that I found very interesting. I think it
Speaker 3: was in the beginning. It's where you were talking about you.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you knew somebody or you heard
Speaker 3: a story of some lady who had come in contact
Speaker 3: with the Bigfoot, and I mean she was conversing with
Speaker 3: it and.
Speaker 2: Bo Kennedy from the Bump.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then you say that it even told
Speaker 3: her it wanted to sleep with her.
Speaker 2: Well, no, it it was telling her.
Speaker 6: That the Bible was jeopardized and it wasn't true, and
Speaker 6: it was basically pointing her toward like the Gospels of
Speaker 6: Thomas and Mary Magdalen, all the Gnostic stuff.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, because what's what's funny is I had never
Speaker 3: heard of the Sterling Newberry until I started to research
Speaker 3: this Sterling Newberry and all the stuff he found around
Speaker 3: here in the Springfield area. I mean, it has just
Speaker 3: been lost. Like no one knows the name Sterling Newberry.
Speaker 3: But in the papers back then, like I found he
Speaker 3: used to work at this Like I said, he was
Speaker 3: a Baptist pastor, but he had other jobs too, Like
Speaker 3: he was he worked at a local furniture store, and
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff he found they put on
Speaker 3: display in the furniture store, and there was ads in
Speaker 3: the paper about come come to Freedman's or I think
Speaker 3: that was the name of the furniture store, come to
Speaker 3: Freeman's and see the amazing finds of Sterling Newberry from
Speaker 3: local sites. And it's like I'm in one.
Speaker 2: Hundred lawn chair while you're there.
Speaker 3: Exactly, I'm like eighty ninety years ago. Like it seems
Speaker 3: like he was a pretty well known guy around here,
Speaker 3: and now no one doesn't even know his name. There
Speaker 3: was another guy named James Clary who I've become good
Speaker 3: friends with. He owns a talk show on one of
Speaker 3: the local radio stations. And it's funny because this is
Speaker 3: a god thing. Because I was listen. I was just
Speaker 3: researching one of the articles and I just typed it
Speaker 3: in the Google sterling Newberry and whatever the article, the
Speaker 3: title of the article, and I found a blog where
Speaker 3: someone had posted the exact same one, and I seen
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, this guy named James Clary was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'd like to swap information with on this article. Well,
Speaker 3: I guess nothing ever came to fruition because when I
Speaker 3: later met James, he said he don't even remember posting that.
Speaker 3: But I started to look up this James Clary and
Speaker 3: I saw that on his talk show. He actually did
Speaker 3: a segment about a year a year and a half
Speaker 3: ago actually, probably when I started to research this stuff
Speaker 3: on Newberry, and he was talking about a lot of
Speaker 3: his his finds that he's found with Newberry and he's
Speaker 3: never been able to find the site either. But and
Speaker 3: James Clare, you might just a side note, you might
Speaker 3: know him. Do you remember the the Giant Show by
Speaker 3: Jim Vieira, the Vieira Brothers. Okay, well, there was one
Speaker 3: where they went to the there's a Steelville Giant supposed
Speaker 3: to Steelville Giant in Steelville, Missouri, and James was on
Speaker 3: that episode, so I didn't know if if you had
Speaker 3: ever seen that, you'd know a reference of who he is.
Speaker 3: But so anyway, I sent a message to the radio
Speaker 3: station and said, my name's Nicholas, I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: in touch with this James Clery on a Sterling Newberry.
Speaker 3: This is my phone number. And she was like, I'll
Speaker 3: pass it along, and I was like, he's gonna call
Speaker 3: me back. Well, lo and behold. A few days later
Speaker 3: he called me back, and I mean we developed the friendship. Really,
Speaker 3: I wanted to get in touch with James because he
Speaker 3: seemed like he was the only guy in Springfield who
Speaker 3: had a knowledge of who Newberry was, and he was
Speaker 3: he hit it really hardcore ten years ago. But then
Speaker 3: you know, after just finding dead ends, he's he's like
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm I don't I can't see him to
Speaker 3: find get anywhere else until he met me, and then
Speaker 3: we collaborated, and I believe we were able to find
Speaker 3: the locations of where the seven foot skeleton was found.
Speaker 3: But I say all that because, like I said, I'm
Speaker 3: a hospice nurse. One time I was admitting a person
Speaker 3: who was in the dying process. And it's interesting because
Speaker 3: this guy has had a fammember who she said she
Speaker 3: was a self proclaimed medium, and I just got weird
Speaker 3: feels there, and like I was talking to her and
Speaker 3: I was telling her. We just kind of started talking.
Speaker 3: I started telling her about my research and she's like,
Speaker 3: I've heard a Newberry before, and I'm like, I just
Speaker 3: thought that was very interesting because I'm like, I didn't
Speaker 3: know anyone else knew Newberry. But it was what I
Speaker 3: wanted to say, is I thought you had said a
Speaker 3: woman had said that one of these bigfoot wanted to
Speaker 3: sleep with her with This woman said she would talk
Speaker 3: to these entities and one of them would jokingly say
Speaker 3: I wanted to sleep with her, which so I'm like,
Speaker 3: ha ha, yeah, yeah, anyway, that was. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think of that guy from Dodgeball, the guy that
Speaker 6: owned GLOBOGM. He was hitting on that girl, you know.
Speaker 6: Then he started laughing, said I'm just kidding, but no seriously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, let's go back to Newbury. That that
Speaker 3: was all long winded for no reason. So Newberry, So,
Speaker 3: like I said, I met James Clary this other article
Speaker 3: where he's talking about the seven foot skeleton that he found.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because it was found near the Holeman Ranch
Speaker 3: off the James River on a bluff. Well, the thing is,
Speaker 3: when you look at the old borders of what the
Speaker 3: hole Men Ranch were, seven miles of the James River
Speaker 3: follows along the old borders of the hole Men Ranch.
Speaker 3: Also all along that river there's bluffs all over the place.
Speaker 3: So it's like this is going to be like a
Speaker 3: needle in a haystack because you have seven miles of
Speaker 3: river with bluffs all over the place, all along the
Speaker 3: Holeman Ranch. It was it was two general in the description,
Speaker 3: and I think that was intentional so people wouldn't go
Speaker 3: vandalize it. So I'm like I needed to look at
Speaker 3: it from a different perspective. Well, in the article they
Speaker 3: mentioned two other people besides Newberry. So there was Sterling Newberry,
Speaker 3: who was the amateur archaeologist. Then there was also a
Speaker 3: guy named William Sartin. And William Sarton was a minor,
Speaker 3: and so I just started thinking, I'm like, that makes sense,
Speaker 3: he need a minor. They know how to escavate. I
Speaker 3: meant the dude juice of digging for minerals and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But then the last one, his name was
Speaker 3: a Denver Break. He was the third member of this
Speaker 3: team that unearthed the seven foot skeleton. And he was
Speaker 3: a farmer, And I'm like, why did they need a farmer?
Speaker 3: And then it clicked unless it was his land. So
Speaker 3: that got me into the library looking at old plat maps,
Speaker 3: and I was was able to find a Break family
Speaker 3: that owned a certain span of property where there was
Speaker 3: a bluff and it was near the James River. Except
Speaker 3: it wasn't owned by a Denver Break. It was owned
Speaker 3: by an aw Break and then even a few decades
Speaker 3: prior to that, Like they have plat maps that go
Speaker 3: back to the eighteen seventies for this area. It was
Speaker 3: owned by an sm Break. Well, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: so this is a family. Yes, it was handed down
Speaker 3: from member to member to member. Well, looking in genealogical records,
Speaker 3: I was able to pinpoint Denver Break was the nephew
Speaker 3: of this aw Break and this sm Break was his grandfather,
Speaker 3: so it was a family land.
Speaker 2: He was the young buck that led the expedition.
Speaker 3: Yes, led them to the And what's interesting was even
Speaker 3: more interesting is Sterling Newbury. Like I said, he was
Speaker 3: a Baptist pastor, so he was Actually you pass their
Speaker 3: over several churches throughout his career. One of them was
Speaker 3: called a Shiloh Baptist. The Break family went to Shiloh Baptists,
Speaker 3: So I think that was the connection of how Newberry
Speaker 3: met the Break family.
Speaker 2: Well, and good work, I think, actually you wouldn't.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't just writing down a bunch of wild theories
Speaker 6: and random stuff. You actually did some good legit digging, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, literally, I didn't really do much literal digging,
Speaker 3: but definitely in the lot in the books. I'm not
Speaker 3: a big fan of digging physically makes take that so
Speaker 3: much work.
Speaker 6: Hey, we are not condoning anybody to dig up burial maps. Now,
Speaker 6: this is for entertainment purposes only. As La mar Zuli says.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't want to dig, to be honest,
Speaker 3: I just I had fun just looking in the old
Speaker 3: history books, looking at the newspapers and being able to yeah,
Speaker 3: it really is put the piece, this is a puzzle together. Well,
Speaker 3: and here James Clary, I told him about this fat
Speaker 3: this fine, and he's like, we got to check it out. Well,
Speaker 3: we found out who owns the property, here's where it's God's.
Speaker 3: This is God's divine sovereignty. The woman who owns the property,
Speaker 3: James called her, And just another tidbit about James he
Speaker 3: owns I mean, like I said, he he does a
Speaker 3: talk show and he talks about a lot of the
Speaker 3: same stuff we talk about, bigfoot, aliens, ghosts, shadow people,
Speaker 3: little people like he talks about the whole plethora of
Speaker 3: supernatural stuff. But before that, he used to be a
Speaker 3: chef and he used to own a really nice restaurant
Speaker 3: here called Clary's. So anybody who's been in the Springfield
Speaker 3: area for the past thirty years knows who James Clay is. Well,
Speaker 3: he called the woman who owns this property and she
Speaker 3: told him the only reason she answered the phone is
Speaker 3: because she saw James Clary. And the only reason she
Speaker 3: knew James Clary is not because of their fact that
Speaker 3: he owned the restaurant, but she used to go to
Speaker 3: church with him. M So if I would have called,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be here telling you about this book I wrote,
Speaker 3: because she wouldn't have let me on. But so her
Speaker 3: and her son met us at the property and we
Speaker 3: had gone out checked out the bluff and it took
Speaker 3: like going out to this bluff multiple times to finally
Speaker 3: find where I believe the burial mound was at. So
Speaker 3: we also got in touch with this guy named Doug
Speaker 3: who is he is I guess you could say he's
Speaker 3: an amateur archaeologist too, but he's been doing this for
Speaker 3: like forty years, and he has mapped out across the
Speaker 3: whole state of Missouri what do you call it, archaeo
Speaker 3: astronomy sites like one point to the next point being
Speaker 3: an equinox alignment or a solstice alignment. But he's done
Speaker 3: that across the whole state of Missouri, which over the
Speaker 3: past forty years.
Speaker 6: Which be in touch with that guy, but he's got
Speaker 6: some good conversations in him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's very knowledgeable. So he came out
Speaker 3: with out there with James and I one time and
Speaker 3: he noticed in a wooded area there was this square
Speaker 3: almost it was like a square mound berm. They call
Speaker 3: it a berm structure, but it's it's square so that
Speaker 3: the outer square is the border is raised, but on
Speaker 3: the inside it's level still. And he he really believed
Speaker 3: that that was a prehistoric structure. So him and I
Speaker 3: were surveying it one day and he notices something very interesting.
Speaker 3: On the inside of this berm structure. All the trees
Speaker 3: are like maybe fifty to sixty years old based off
Speaker 3: the the trunk. But on the outside of the berm
Speaker 3: structure you have massive trees with massive trunks that were
Speaker 3: probably anywhere from two hundred to three hundred years old.
Speaker 3: And he made a comment, he was like, you know
Speaker 3: what that tells me is that on the inside of
Speaker 3: this berm it was clear at one point and he said,
Speaker 3: this really reminds me of a cemetery. Then it clicked.
Speaker 3: Remember how I told you Sterling Newbery was a pastor
Speaker 3: at Shiloh Baptist. Shiloh Baptists burned down in the I
Speaker 3: think the late eighteen hundred or early nineteen hundreds. They
Speaker 3: never rebuilt the church, but it became a cemetery well,
Speaker 3: the Break Several members of the Break family are buried there.
Speaker 3: There is a plaque by the Break family gravestones that
Speaker 3: say three miles west of here used to sit the
Speaker 3: Break family cemetery. What And then that's when it clicked.
Speaker 3: Where we were at was in that exact location where
Speaker 3: the Break family cemetery used to be. We were standing
Speaker 3: in what used to be that Break family cemetery, and
Speaker 3: so it's no longer a cemetery. So here's my This
Speaker 3: is where my theory comes in. It's the Break family cemetery.
Speaker 3: That structure, that burm structure around where the cemetery was
Speaker 3: at is prehistoric. What I have kind of come to
Speaker 3: realize is when the white settlers came here, a lot
Speaker 3: of times they buried they're dead on top of where
Speaker 3: Native Americans buried. They're dead because I mean the Native
Speaker 3: Americans they buried where it wouldn't be destroyed by flood
Speaker 3: water or by wash out or anything like that, Like
Speaker 3: they buried on top of bluffs. Well, the white pioneers
Speaker 3: are like, this is a good this is a good idea.
Speaker 3: Let's bury our dead here too. I believe that that
Speaker 3: was a prehistoric structure and there was most likely ancient
Speaker 3: people that were buried within that cemetery. The Break family
Speaker 3: buys this property throughout the generations, they start dying, they
Speaker 3: start burying them in that cemetery. Well, maybe there was
Speaker 3: one shallow burial mound there that they were about to
Speaker 3: bury somebody, and as they're digging it up, they find
Speaker 3: some bones. They know that their pastor, Sterling Newberry, is
Speaker 3: an amateur archaeologist, so they don't they stop further digging.
Speaker 3: They have Newberry come out with certain along with Denver
Speaker 3: Break and because it's his family's property, and they unearthed
Speaker 3: the seven foot skeleton. That would also explain why all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Break family are no longer burying
Speaker 3: in this cemetery anymore. They are now burying at Shiloh
Speaker 3: Baptists because they realized this, we shouldn't be burying here.
Speaker 3: This is most likely a holy area, and they so
Speaker 3: because something made the Break family stop bearing in that
Speaker 3: I meant they removed I don't know if they would.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they removed the bodies. So when
Speaker 3: I was talking to Doug about this, Doug said one
Speaker 3: thing that he'd realized as he's been doing this and
Speaker 3: realizing white settlers buried on top of Native American burial grounds.
Speaker 3: They all they would actually do when they'd figure it out,
Speaker 3: they would move headstones to another because by the time
Speaker 3: they figured it out, I meant the bodies decomposed on
Speaker 3: the ground. So that's what I think is what happened.
Speaker 3: There's some more interesting components to this seven foot skeleton.
Speaker 3: So some people, like, I know, some people are like, well,
Speaker 3: sell seven foot, that's not that tall. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: it kind.
Speaker 6: Of one percent of the population, and everybody sees these
Speaker 6: NBA players and thinks it's common.
Speaker 2: It's not common.
Speaker 6: If you look it up for somebody to be seven
Speaker 6: foot tall, you know, or sixty and something like that,
Speaker 6: that's seriously, like percentile wise, it's like less than one
Speaker 6: percent of the human population.
Speaker 2: It's rare.
Speaker 6: It's just now with this modern technology and we have
Speaker 6: sports that you know, gather these people from all around
Speaker 6: the world, and we see these giants on TV. Altogether,
Speaker 6: we just think that it's normal and common.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 3: No. I mean, I'm six too, and if I saw
Speaker 3: somebody seven foot, I'm still gonna be like, dang, that
Speaker 3: dude's tall. And I'm pretty I'm a pretty tall.
Speaker 2: God that's a giant.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, but there's some other components with the way
Speaker 3: this It wasn't just the seven foot skeleton that was buried.
Speaker 3: Once again, Newbury thought the seven foot skeleton just like
Speaker 3: the skeleton at Full Bright. He thought this seven foot
Speaker 3: skeleton was the high priest or some person of high
Speaker 3: significance or power and power. There was seven other skeletons
Speaker 3: buried with the seven foot skeleton. They had a very
Speaker 3: interesting layout. So you had one that was buried north
Speaker 3: and south, and then they layered another one on top,
Speaker 3: buried east to west. Well, when you're a view looking down,
Speaker 3: it farmed a cross, and then the way they were
Speaker 3: aligned up, and then they aligned another two on top
Speaker 3: of the bottom two, and then another two and then
Speaker 3: another two, so where all eight were buried in this
Speaker 3: cross pattern from looking up down the seven foot skeleton
Speaker 3: had a stone bowl that Newberry thought was some kind
Speaker 3: of sacrificial bowl, and he believed that those other seven
Speaker 3: that were buried with the seven foot skeleton were most
Speaker 3: likely some kind of servants or slaves that were sacrificed
Speaker 3: and buried with the seven foot skeleton to serve him
Speaker 3: in the next life. Now, I mean that doesn't sound
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound yeah, and which I mean, all of
Speaker 3: those could even point to possible Nephilum roots aians.
Speaker 6: I mean, they were known as the Elvin Racer the Pixies,
Speaker 6: and I just did an episode on that that all
Speaker 6: traces back really to to Nephilim tribes and even the
Speaker 6: word leprechaun it was a mistranslation.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: They translated it to like little people. But honestly, uh,
Speaker 6: when you look at it, especially like when you go
Speaker 6: to the Latin Lepra Khan Lepra referring to leprocy. Okay,
Speaker 6: So it wasn't that they were some you know, little midgets,
Speaker 6: green people, and know that they were talking about these
Speaker 6: these Elven bloodlines and throughout the years they just kind
Speaker 6: of got mythologicalized. But so they're talking about they were
Speaker 6: scally okay, and they could have been you know.
Speaker 2: Scaly skin.
Speaker 6: I think they were talking about the scale, the fish
Speaker 6: scale type armor that the Draconians wore from Scythia, and
Speaker 6: they uh uh uh call them. Well, that wasn't the mistranslation.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, just Lepra is Lepra. But they associated them
Speaker 6: with little water people. And this guy went through all
Speaker 6: the etymology and said, no, it was.
Speaker 2: Scaly water people.
Speaker 6: Humm, you know, like water sprouts, you know, or something
Speaker 6: like that. But so I was like, well, once again
Speaker 6: it ties into the whole Scythian Draconian Venetian people because
Speaker 6: they were all like the Vikings, they were all seamen
Speaker 6: and they were raiders. So yeah, they were scaly because
Speaker 6: of their armor, and they were seamen, so they were
Speaker 6: water beings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was a part I didn't tell you about.
Speaker 3: That's in my book too. I'm going to go back
Speaker 3: to Fulbright where that Indian chief burial was at. There's
Speaker 3: actually a cave, another cave in that area called the
Speaker 3: Devil Slide Cave, and there's supposedly Viking ruins in that cave.
Speaker 3: H what's interesting. Car on the wall, Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: mean there's a lot of a lot of people have
Speaker 3: gone in there and carved them there too. But I
Speaker 3: was watching there's a splunker, a local splunker that has
Speaker 3: gone in there, and he took pictures of the ruins
Speaker 3: and I got permission from him to put it in
Speaker 3: my book, and I put the picture of the what
Speaker 3: he thought was supposed to Viking runs in there. What's
Speaker 3: interesting is that Devil Slide Cave. When you align that cave,
Speaker 3: the entrance of the cave up with where the Indian
Speaker 3: chief was buried that had the red skull, it's a
Speaker 3: salstice alignment.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: So just just interesting stuff. And I've I learned about that,
Speaker 3: like so I'm still learning about the whole salstice alignments.
Speaker 3: And equinox alignments and stuff like that. But Doug was
Speaker 3: the one who because he went out there with me
Speaker 3: to look at it, and he's like, this is a
Speaker 3: saltice alignment, meaning so it's a from the burial mound
Speaker 3: to where the mouth of the cave is at. It
Speaker 3: would be a summer salstice sunrise, so that would be
Speaker 3: on the summer saustice. That'd be the path that the
Speaker 3: sun would travel from the open.
Speaker 6: Mouth rise and the opposite was the set.
Speaker 3: Yes, it would be the winter cross.
Speaker 6: Was like when you talking about those burials and across,
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't realize like the old pagan
Speaker 6: artifacts that you see they draw the the cross, but
Speaker 6: like with a circle or it's a circle with a
Speaker 6: cross inside of it. Yeah, and even like the old
Speaker 6: Christian symbolism, and like the old tombstones like you'll see
Speaker 6: across with a little circle on the inside of it.
Speaker 6: That's sun and solstice symbology. Because you held four points
Speaker 6: of the equinoxes, so you had the summer uh in winter,
Speaker 6: solstice and equinoxes, and that's what those four points represented.
Speaker 6: And that son and the center was to show you
Speaker 6: this is the path of the sun.
Speaker 3: Huh. Interesting. So yeah, I'm still learning about the whole
Speaker 3: alignment stuff, but I thought that was interesting. But I
Speaker 3: also want to tell you mentioned leprechauns and little people.
Speaker 3: I even found that there's some stuff that involves little
Speaker 3: people and Sterling Newberry. This I was able to find out.
Speaker 3: I've actually become pretty loose associates with Sterling Newberry, one
Speaker 3: of his living grandchildren, and I found him on Facebook.
Speaker 3: He also has a Twitter, and he had posted something
Speaker 3: about his grandfather years ago. He never actually got to
Speaker 3: meet his grandfather because his grandfather passed before Joe was born. Well,
Speaker 3: Joe was telling me that because I wanted to meet
Speaker 3: Joe to see if that if he had any information
Speaker 3: on Newberry.
Speaker 2: Whatsoever, journals or anything.
Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing and everything that Newberry had has
Speaker 3: been liquidated and sent to well some I think some
Speaker 3: went some went to the Smithsonian, because I have found records.
Speaker 3: Some of the newspapers say that it went to the Smithsonian.
Speaker 2: No, I guarantee it.
Speaker 3: Especially he found two months after he found the seven
Speaker 3: foot skeleton, he found as textile pottery, and that pottery
Speaker 3: went to the Smithsonian. But anyway, so Joe, I had
Speaker 3: found a newspaper. This was in between in nineteen thirty
Speaker 3: two and nineteen thirty four. This is in between where
Speaker 3: he found the Spoke Mountain burial and before he found
Speaker 3: the seven foot skeleton. There was an article about a
Speaker 3: Harry Starlight and a Sterling Newberry having an altercation in Fairgrove.
Speaker 3: What was interesting is I live in Fairgrove, so I
Speaker 3: was like, man, I want to find where this spot
Speaker 3: was at, but I haven't been able to find it.
Speaker 3: But it said that they were in an Indian burial
Speaker 3: site and there was an altercation. Cop showed up, they
Speaker 3: arrested this Harry Starlight and they ended up releasing him.
Speaker 3: That's all it says. It doesn't go into detail. Well,
Speaker 3: I've had the pleasure of being able to send Joe
Speaker 3: several articles that he never even knew about his grandfather.
Speaker 3: So that's been kind of cool being able to fill
Speaker 3: him on some stuff. But Joe told me there is
Speaker 3: one story that he could give me pretty good detail,
Speaker 3: and this is a story that went through the whole
Speaker 3: Newberry family since this happened, and it is pertaining to
Speaker 3: that article. So what the details of that story is.
Speaker 3: Harry's Starlight was supposedly an O Sage chieftain. He was
Speaker 3: a proclaimed O Sage chief. He lived in Oklahoma. Well,
Speaker 3: Newberry after he found the seven foot skeleton, he found
Speaker 3: a cave a little more north of Springfield. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's found all kinds of stuff, but a cave a
Speaker 3: little north of Springfield, and he found this bear, this
Speaker 3: stone idol bear where in the side of he named
Speaker 3: it Brun. And in the side of the bear, like
Speaker 3: on the where the hip would have been, there was
Speaker 3: a cross that was etched in. Once again, the cross,
Speaker 3: I meant, a lot of stuff points to vikings with
Speaker 3: this too. But there was also a crescent which I
Speaker 3: believe like a crescent moon. Well, the article talks very
Speaker 3: detailed about what this bear looked like. And then this
Speaker 3: article that went out all over regionally. So apparently this
Speaker 3: Harry Starlight Redwood Newberry found and he read about the
Speaker 3: description of that bear, and he wanted that bear. So
Speaker 3: what happened is he comes to so yeah, so he
Speaker 3: comes to Springfield, I mean, and I think he was
Speaker 3: in Tulsa or something like that. He lived in a
Speaker 3: boarding home in Tulsa or somewhere in Oklahoma. He comes
Speaker 3: here and he becomes loosely associated with Sterling Newberry. Like
Speaker 3: he goes to his front door, knocks on the door,
Speaker 3: and says, introduces himself. Harry Starlight tells him what he
Speaker 3: was there for, and they develop a friendship. I don't
Speaker 3: know how long Carry Starlight stayed here, but he ended
Speaker 3: up telling Sterling Newberry, would you like to meet the
Speaker 3: little people? And Sterling Newberry I believe he was like
Speaker 3: half Cherokee. Well he was, I mean, he was just
Speaker 3: enthralled with Native American lore. So he had always heard
Speaker 3: about the little people and he's like I first, I
Speaker 3: think he's like, yeah, I want to meet, Like I
Speaker 3: want to meet these things. I've always heard about him
Speaker 3: through my grandfather and my father, and I'd like to
Speaker 3: experience what these things are. So Starlight brought him to
Speaker 3: Fairgrove at the supposed old in the imburial site, which,
Speaker 3: like I said, I live in Fair Grove, and man,
Speaker 3: I really want to find where that spots at. But
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't find any historical record on it,
Speaker 3: even the Fair Growth Historical Society. I sent them that
Speaker 3: article and they're like, we don't know where this is at.
Speaker 3: So but anyway, so they got to the site. Newberry
Speaker 3: also brings with him two other gentlemen, I believe, and
Speaker 3: then his son, Sterling Newberry Junior. So it's these four
Speaker 3: gentlemen and they went out to meet this Harry Starlight
Speaker 3: at this it was at night to meet Harry Starlight
Speaker 3: at this end and burial site. Starlight said, I need
Speaker 3: you to bring that bear with you that was in
Speaker 3: the newspaper because it's going to be very significant in
Speaker 3: this ritual.
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Speaker 3: They go out there, and the article did hint that
Speaker 3: they believed Starlight might have been under some kind of
Speaker 3: influence or drunk or something not Starlight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Starlight, this is part of a spiritual journey that
Speaker 6: he took some mushrooms or peyote for the ceremony.
Speaker 3: When I was talking, so I went on the word
Speaker 3: at war with Kyle, and Kyle said, it sounds like peyote.
Speaker 3: So anyway, he starts performing this ritual and he's throwing
Speaker 3: a substance on the fire. It's making the fire turn
Speaker 3: blue and green and dance. Well it was copper. Copper
Speaker 3: makes fire turn blue. So anyway, he's he's throwing this
Speaker 3: stuff on the fire and he's doing this chant. And
Speaker 3: I think this is where Newberry, being a Baptist pastor,
Speaker 3: I believe he had the end dwelling Holy Spirit, because
Speaker 3: I think something said I got first. You know, at
Speaker 3: first we hear about something, it's like, oh, that sounds fun.
Speaker 3: But then the Holy we had that Holy Spirit say
Speaker 3: you need no, this is you need to run this. Yeah, run,
Speaker 3: And I think he the Holy Spirit saying you're done here,
Speaker 3: like you don't. This is not something you want to do,
Speaker 3: and what you're what you're seeing is not of me.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Starlight's throwing this substance on the fire. It's dancing.
Speaker 3: He's doing this chant and then he tells Sterling Newberry
Speaker 3: Newberry jump across the fire. And then Newberry's like, no,
Speaker 3: we're done here. I mean, this was interesting at first,
Speaker 3: but I think this we're done, like we're not going
Speaker 3: to engage with this anymore. That made Starlight mad. So
Speaker 3: then Starlight said, Newberry Junior, you jump across the fire.
Speaker 3: Sterling Newberry was like, I done told you, Starlight, we're done.
Speaker 3: We're not proceeding anymore. That really ticked off Starlight. He's like, well,
Speaker 3: then I'll come across the fire. Your boy jumped over
Speaker 3: the fire and tried to wrestle Starlight. No, he tried
Speaker 3: to wrestle sterling Newberry to the ground. Luckily he had
Speaker 3: two other guys with him. They pulled him off. Cops came.
Speaker 3: They arrest Starlight publican intoxication and for starting starting a fight.
Speaker 3: The grandson said, this is how much of a Christian
Speaker 3: my grandfather was. He decided, even though he was attacked,
Speaker 3: he didn't press charges. He just wanted Harry Starlight out
Speaker 3: of their life. So I thought that was like him,
Speaker 3: and he literally turned the other cheek. He didn't want
Speaker 3: to press chargers even though he was attacked, So Starlight's
Speaker 3: out the picture before they While they're arresting Starlight, Joe
Speaker 3: said that his grandfather and his uncle went back to
Speaker 3: the car and they could see that someone had gone
Speaker 3: rummaging through the vehicle. So I guess before they started,
Speaker 3: before Starlight started to perform this little ritual, he must
Speaker 3: have went to their car and went rummaging through to
Speaker 3: try and find this bear, but Newberry was two steps
Speaker 3: ahead of him. Newberry hid it in the wheel well,
Speaker 3: so he wasn't able to find it. So I think
Speaker 3: between being drunk, him not participating, and Newberry outsmarting him
Speaker 3: not being able to find like he wanted to steal
Speaker 3: that idol and just leave because he didn't think new.
Speaker 6: Had an accomplice, you know, I mean somebody they didn't
Speaker 6: know about hiding in the woods. When they pulled up
Speaker 6: and walked out, they were rummaging and trying to find it.
Speaker 3: You know, that's true. That's true. I didn't think about that,
Speaker 3: but so they couldn't find it. So I meant, I
Speaker 3: think he had those three things that really just offset starlight.
Speaker 3: And I mean, if he's doing those rituals, we don't
Speaker 3: know what he was channeling. But I just thought that
Speaker 3: was interesting because I'm like, I'm writing this book about giants,
Speaker 3: and the grandson tells me this story about little people,
Speaker 3: and it's like, as I've started to study more about
Speaker 3: the Nephilim and giant lore with Native Americans, it seems
Speaker 3: like it's almost synonymous with little people too. So I
Speaker 3: was like, man, I got to add that in the book.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's pretty I mean, I have several
Speaker 3: more in there.
Speaker 6: I don't want to Oh no, I don't want you
Speaker 6: to give it all the way I want them to,
Speaker 6: you know, contribute to your work and stuff. I think
Speaker 6: the stuff you gave was pretty awesome, especially the the
Speaker 6: stories behind all the things that you had found. Uh,
Speaker 6: that's what I find most fun and exciting to me
Speaker 6: because it's kind of like you are watching a real
Speaker 6: life Indiana Jones movie. It's not you know, some Hollywood stuff. No,
Speaker 6: it's somebody in real life, you know, digging through the
Speaker 6: archives finding this stuff, going out to these places, trying
Speaker 6: to find these you know, lost treasurers and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: and all the little stories and experiences along the way.
Speaker 2: I mean that that's what I love. I love that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, And I mean, like I said, when
Speaker 3: when I heard you talking about your book, I don't
Speaker 3: I think it was whenever you went on the Ryan
Speaker 3: Files with Ryan Pelton and how you were just talking
Speaker 3: about It's like, man, I have all these different puzzle pieces.
Speaker 3: And that's really how I felt like. I have all
Speaker 3: these different puzzle pieces that I put together to make
Speaker 3: this book. I meant, my book's not that it's only
Speaker 3: eighty pages, so it's not really that long, but it
Speaker 3: is a wealth of research though even though it's not
Speaker 3: love No. Yeah, I didn't do a.
Speaker 6: Lot of fluff because a lot of writers that they do.
Speaker 6: It's like, I love it like, I'm a researcher, you know,
Speaker 6: I want the golden nuggets. So to me, it's kind
Speaker 6: of frustrating, but you have to do it to find them.
Speaker 6: So that's why I always say, you have to dig
Speaker 6: to find the nuggets. So people that listen to my
Speaker 6: show or other shows that research, like me, you guys
Speaker 6: are saving a lot of time and effort and frustration
Speaker 6: because we're digging it out for you and showcasing it
Speaker 6: for you. But yeah, you'll read through a book like
Speaker 6: that man, and you might only find five six little
Speaker 6: pieces of gold nuggets that they could have, you know,
Speaker 6: cut all the fluff out and just delivered that and
Speaker 6: had the book only you know, eighty or one hundred pages.
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, I'd much rather read an eighty one
Speaker 6: hundred page book that's just rapid fire gold nugget delivery
Speaker 6: than a bunch of how do I word it wordy foreplay. Now, yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't want the foreplay. Just take me straight to
Speaker 6: the bedroom.
Speaker 3: That's a good and a good analogy, and so like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, also, I mean, I guess I kind of
Speaker 3: wrote this in the sense of expecting people to buy
Speaker 3: it would already kind of had that foundational knowledge of
Speaker 3: what the Nepholm were and some of these ideas of
Speaker 3: them building megalithic structures and having global floods like different.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry every civilization having global flood like
Speaker 3: I kind of wrote it with that in mind. I mean,
Speaker 3: I did mention it a little bit so that way,
Speaker 3: Let's say the the novice person who doesn't know anything
Speaker 3: about it does read my book, it won't take them
Speaker 3: out long to you know, watch a couple of podcasts
Speaker 3: or a couple of documentaries on the on the Nephelin
Speaker 3: the catch up. But yeah, and it's really been a
Speaker 3: So it's really been a cool journey because one of
Speaker 3: the one reason I wrote this In the very end,
Speaker 3: chapter thirteen, I write the reason I wrote this is
Speaker 3: because for some people, I meant some people, they don't
Speaker 3: need to have proof that the Bible's real. They just
Speaker 3: read it and they believe it. Some people do. If
Speaker 3: this may be a way that I could get somebody
Speaker 3: to come to Jesus by laying out some evidence, then
Speaker 3: it was worth it, you know. And I want people
Speaker 3: to know that the fact giants were real, and the
Speaker 3: fact that I feel like society tried to hide it
Speaker 3: is because it substantiates and backs up the Bible. And
Speaker 3: if the Bible is real, then that means we have
Speaker 3: a savior that died on the cross for our sins,
Speaker 3: for the remission of our sins, because he loves us unconditionally,
Speaker 3: and there's nothing than we can do to earn that
Speaker 3: but that he will love us till our very last breath,
Speaker 3: whether we choose him or not. It's on us to
Speaker 3: choose him though, you know.
Speaker 2: And what did he save us from?
Speaker 6: You? I mean, yeah, that's what stuff like this shows.
Speaker 6: I get people, you know, some people, you know, why
Speaker 6: do you care so much about this? Or why do
Speaker 6: you look into that? That's you know, obsolete. It's a nomenclature.
Speaker 6: It affects nothing. It's a distraction. It's like, no, man,
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's important to know what you were
Speaker 6: saved from. It's important to know why the flood come,
Speaker 6: you know, and things like that. And like you said,
Speaker 6: some people need the evidence.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: You know, you're from the show me state. You know
Speaker 6: you won't the efvidence show me the evidence. But at
Speaker 6: the same time, it should be something that us Christians
Speaker 6: that just have the faith would want to know also
Speaker 6: because it strengthens our faith. It solidifies our faith, and
Speaker 6: then it helps you to defend your faith. It's no longer.
Speaker 6: You know, I believe this because my pastor told me
Speaker 6: for twenty years. I can't tell you why I believe it,
Speaker 6: but I believe. But you know, so I have faith
Speaker 6: and I believe it. But here you go, if you
Speaker 6: are a doubting Thomas, touch and feel it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know, even going back to that doubting Thomas,
Speaker 3: you notice Jesus never even chastised him. Jesus just showed
Speaker 3: him the evidence because Jesus is that concerned with us
Speaker 3: knowing him like there was There was no scolding like Thomas,
Speaker 3: how do you not like? How do you not know this?
Speaker 3: You should know this by now. You've been with me
Speaker 3: for three years. You've seen me die. I'm here in
Speaker 3: the No, he just showed him his hands because he
Speaker 3: cares that much to make sure we understand. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And that's the that's what.
Speaker 6: Truth doesn't run away from questions, you know. That's how
Speaker 6: I look at it. Like he had the truth, so
Speaker 6: he didn't care about some questions, you know.
Speaker 3: No, amen, So yeah, that's that was my big thing
Speaker 3: for why I wanted to write this book, and I
Speaker 3: mean I've I've actually had one guy. It's funny because
Speaker 3: I had one guy who lives locally here. He was
Speaker 3: just an old country bumpkin, really nice guy. His name
Speaker 3: is Brian. He was just on Amazon one day and
Speaker 3: the algorithm threw him my book and he bought it.
Speaker 3: He read it. He found my number online, like he
Speaker 3: just typed in my name and my address and found
Speaker 3: my phone number and he gave me a call. And
Speaker 3: he has some pretty interesting stuff on his property. I've
Speaker 3: gone out and check out, and I believe he might
Speaker 3: actually have an old burial on his site. And what's
Speaker 3: also interesting is I went out there with my friend Kent,
Speaker 3: and I mentioned Kent in my book too. Kent's been
Speaker 3: pretty pivotal on some of my research. But Kent and
Speaker 3: I went out there and Brian was telling us that
Speaker 3: he's another one that his family when pioneers came out here,
Speaker 3: his family settled on the land and to this day
Speaker 3: he still owns that land where his original forefathers homesteaded,
Speaker 3: which is it's really awesome. I meant, it's been in
Speaker 3: the family. It's been in the family for one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty years Well, he was telling me about his
Speaker 3: grandfather would tell his father about stories whenever they first
Speaker 3: came here that they would see once a year O
Speaker 3: Sage walking close to their homestead because they were coming
Speaker 3: for some ancestral worship. And what's interesting is the O Sage.
Speaker 3: If you, I don't know if you ever looked much
Speaker 3: into them, almost a whole O Sage people were anywhere
Speaker 3: from six to seven foot tall. And he said so
Speaker 3: when he read my book, it really intrigued them because
Speaker 3: he's like, man, my grandfather or my great grandfather used
Speaker 3: to tell stories about the seven foot O Sage coming
Speaker 3: from Oklahoma, come back here once a year to do
Speaker 3: some kind of ancestral worship, and then they go back
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma. Well that's when I went out there to
Speaker 3: search on his property and not like I said, I
Speaker 3: believe there might be what looks like an old rock Karen,
Speaker 3: which is like an old rock burial mound just off
Speaker 3: the bluff along a creek bit a creek that he
Speaker 3: has running through his property. And it was also funny
Speaker 3: because he was telling Kent and I that about forty
Speaker 3: years ago, when he was in his twenties. One night,
Speaker 3: he's seen a light shining in his house. And I
Speaker 3: mean he lives out in the middle of timbucktoo. You know,
Speaker 3: no one's out there like your closest neighbors a mile away.
Speaker 3: And he said he's seen a light. Well, when he
Speaker 3: look out, there was a he thought it was a
Speaker 3: UFO or some kind of floating orb of light. Well,
Speaker 3: and when he was pointing at I was like, hold
Speaker 3: on a pointed where the burial mound was. That was
Speaker 3: it over there where that mound is at. The dude
Speaker 3: turned as white as a ghost, like because he finally
Speaker 3: made that connection, Like, holy crap, that light that I
Speaker 3: seen forty years ago is directly over where this possible
Speaker 3: burial site was at. And he said, since he's owned
Speaker 3: this property, I mean, he's owned this property for forty years.
Speaker 3: He got it from his dad. He said, that place
Speaker 3: where he believes that burial site is that where we
Speaker 3: think it's a burial site. He's like, I've always had
Speaker 3: just that feeling like something's off in this area. So
Speaker 3: but what's interesting is he this is where it's I mean,
Speaker 3: this is where I'm like, all right, this is why
Speaker 3: I wrote the book. This is he told me is like,
Speaker 3: since I read your book, it has rekindled a desire
Speaker 3: to want to read the Bible again. And I thought
Speaker 3: that was Yeah, I thought that was like, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: Even if I meant that's awesome, you know, it just
Speaker 3: it brings somebody back to their first love, bringing them,
Speaker 3: bringing them back to wanting to read the scriptures, to
Speaker 3: learn more about God, to learn more about what the
Speaker 3: scriptures entail. I mean, that's that's what it's all about, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, even to prove you wrong.
Speaker 6: That's why I feel people all the times like they
Speaker 6: want to try to argue with me about my thoughts
Speaker 6: and opinions on stuff. You know, I'm like, all right, well,
Speaker 6: where's your references?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: So even if you're upset with me and trying to
Speaker 6: prove me wrong, if it makes you open up your
Speaker 6: Bible and blow that dust off of it, man, mission accomplished.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, as long as you're because you don't know
Speaker 3: what God can do with someone who's just opening up
Speaker 3: their Bible. So yeah, that was a that was kind
Speaker 3: of a cool testimony. Recently I found out about my book.
Speaker 2: So very cool went out.
Speaker 6: Man, Before we let you go, do you have a
Speaker 6: website or anything like that, Like maybe if they wanted
Speaker 6: to buy like a personal autograph copy, or is it
Speaker 6: just strictly on Amazon? Where do they find this book
Speaker 6: and some of your stuff?
Speaker 3: Unfortunately I don't have a website with signed copies. Okay,
Speaker 3: if they live, if anyone of your members live close
Speaker 3: to Springfield, Missouri, there is a an ABC bookstore that
Speaker 3: actually sells my book, and I can always go in
Speaker 3: there and sign a copy. But it really is exclusively
Speaker 3: on Amazon. Maybe I shouldn't look.
Speaker 6: At Well, I'm coming to Springfield for that conference that
Speaker 6: they're putting on here the Watchman. Yeah, I'll get with
Speaker 6: you and I'll buy eight or ten copies and have
Speaker 6: you sign them all and maybe do like a giveaway
Speaker 6: or something on the show a little street for the listeners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that works actually, And I've sent I've sent my
Speaker 3: book to Jamie Waldon. I sent the PDF to him,
Speaker 3: And I was actually talking to John Pounders earlier. He
Speaker 3: just got his copy in. I really want to go
Speaker 3: on his show and talk about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but at John's cool, and he will after he
Speaker 6: reads it. That's like even mine.
Speaker 2: He had me.
Speaker 6: He even invited me to speak at his conference. Last
Speaker 6: year really and spoke at his conference, had a vendors table,
Speaker 6: sold the book and everything, and I was just going
Speaker 6: to give him a copy. And John's like, no, no, no, no, no, here,
Speaker 6: here's twenty bucks. I want to contribute. And that's what thanks, man.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna give you one. He's like no, no, no,
Speaker 6: He's like, and after I read it, you're gonna come
Speaker 6: on the show and we're gonna have a discussion about it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, cool.
Speaker 6: Of course, a lot of people tell you step in
Speaker 6: front of your face. I just like, he ain't never
Speaker 6: gonna read that. I'm never gonna hear back from him.
Speaker 6: And it was about a month later he ended up
Speaker 6: getting hold of He's like, hey, I finished that awesome book, man,
Speaker 6: I'm ready for a discussion.
Speaker 3: Yes, you were on Hit his show, what three weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I watched. I listened to that yesterday. Actually I listened
Speaker 3: to y'all, yeah, yeah, conversation yesterday. He seems he seems
Speaker 3: like a he seems like a legit dude, you know,
Speaker 3: like he seems like he's he He's very authentic as
Speaker 3: with just the kind of vibe I get from him.
Speaker 3: Some you could some people you can tell, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: probably fake. But him, he seems like he's one that
Speaker 3: he's he's authentic and he cares and he gives everybody
Speaker 3: the time of day kind of mentality. It.
Speaker 2: So John's one of the real ones. Man.
Speaker 6: Well, Nick Brother, thank you for coming on. I really
Speaker 6: enjoyed this conversation. I loved hearing your journey going through
Speaker 6: and finding all this stuff and going through and just
Speaker 6: searching and hitting the boots on the ground and all
Speaker 6: your research. Dude, I really enjoyed hearing it. So I
Speaker 6: really thank you for your time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Hey, maybe we'll have you back when you finish your
Speaker 6: second book that you're about to start.
Speaker 3: I'm actually nudge nudge, yeah, I'm I'm kind of starting
Speaker 3: to look into other stuff like maybe A Genesis six
Speaker 3: and Theo's Arcs Volume two, but expanding out more to
Speaker 3: like Missouri because there's I found other articles about seven
Speaker 3: and a half eight foot skeletons even up to a
Speaker 3: and actually, I don't know if you've ever seen Cryptid Camp.
Speaker 3: He has this guy, Crypto Camp. It's on Facebook. He
Speaker 3: does a lot of AI videos, but it's based off
Speaker 3: of all newspaper clippings. He sent me some stuff, and
Speaker 3: he sent me one of a twelve foot skeleton that
Speaker 3: was found in North Missouri. I'm like, that is probably
Speaker 3: by far the biggest skeleton I have heard of. So
Speaker 3: I'd like to look into these a little more and
Speaker 3: eventually write another book.
Speaker 6: So awesome, man, Well, rather thank you man, And guys, hey,
Speaker 6: if you enjoyed that, be sure to head on over
Speaker 6: to Amazon and check him out and get this book
Speaker 6: and actually hold it up so people, because you have
Speaker 6: you've got a.
Speaker 2: Copyright, don't you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let every bay see that thing. There you go, guys,
Speaker 6: that's your reference, and hold it sideways and see it's
Speaker 6: not that intimidating.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 6: This is looks like it'd be a good fun read.
Speaker 6: And it's not a Gary Wayne bible.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but let's say, if you can read Gary
Speaker 3: Wayne's book, you'd probably have my book done in an hour.
Speaker 3: Yes even that, but and I'm mean and for those
Speaker 3: who hate to read, I even have an audiobook.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 6: So you're with the Adam excuse, guys, so be sure
Speaker 6: check him out, check out his stuff, contribute his work.
Speaker 6: So whether you want it digital, whether you want a
Speaker 6: physical copy or an audible You are without an excuse.
Speaker 2: Guys, hey, but until next time torches.
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