Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty four, originally published
Speaker 1: on July eighth, twenty fourteen.
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Speaker 3: You start trying to take a picture when you make
Speaker 3: your golf cleen what that part it is? And when
Speaker 3: you can't do it, it's because it won't happen. You
Speaker 3: had early palm wine. You're cringing the club that happened,
Speaker 3: And then you want to why I don't make your
Speaker 3: golf One for a kind of gotigator talking about will
Speaker 3: president not be the redult orient and we're talking about
Speaker 3: doing at a golf what called OFWF What it is? You're
Speaker 3: outside with friend or people you like to at least
Speaker 3: be around. You're at a park. Basically, you've got land
Speaker 3: set aside that is free of course, about a beautiful bird,
Speaker 3: water ducks, all the beautiful bad and you got.
Speaker 4: This picture app years that you can look at.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying you just start looking at them, because
Speaker 3: everybody looks down at the grown into the white ball,
Speaker 3: and then that's the frustraction. I'm saying. You look up
Speaker 3: and find the party and set that in your mind
Speaker 3: and then enjoying the times and then you start feeling
Speaker 3: like having a good time on the golf course, and
Speaker 3: then you can say I'm a good golfer and your
Speaker 3: score nor reflected. But it won't be in the score.
Speaker 3: That won't be while you know you're parent, you know
Speaker 3: you're good, and you enjoy the time. Spin out there
Speaker 3: which your friend.
Speaker 1: PGA Tour caddy for JB. Holmes, Brandon Parsons. This is
Speaker 1: Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.
Speaker 5: Brandon, Hey, how are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well.
Speaker 5: Where are you.
Speaker 3: Right now? I am between Campbellsville and Bowling Greens and
Speaker 3: Punty and it's just going down to talk a little
Speaker 3: bit about a target, owning your golf and a point
Speaker 3: golf and a way to communicate and nation to the player.
Speaker 3: Right now. You know, I caddy, So my brother intent
Speaker 3: parking and instructor at Oldstone and I'm heading out the
Speaker 3: Oldstone Country Club and goinger into.
Speaker 1: Customs and how much of your life has spent on
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 3: A great amount. I travel just with word about thirty
Speaker 3: weeks plus the Ninus a few weeks, about thirty weeks
Speaker 3: with the tour events, and then while I'm home sometimes
Speaker 3: I scheduled some time like today to try to, you know,
Speaker 3: just advance my learning in regards to golf. So I'm
Speaker 3: using I've got a few days here before the British Open,
Speaker 3: and I'm just using this time to try to to
Speaker 3: brush up on some things, just green oriented, just just
Speaker 3: reading green, trying to get a few more puts to
Speaker 3: fall in.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll definitely talk about aime point putting. And
Speaker 1: because Colin Cromac was on the on the show just
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago talking about tour target oriented golf,
Speaker 1: that's how you and I got together. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to want to focus and talk a lot about target
Speaker 1: oriented golf from your perspective. But if you don't mind
Speaker 1: me asking, I'm just fascinated you were You've been on
Speaker 1: the tour this year with JB Holmes and caddying catting
Speaker 1: for him. Is this your first year caddying for JB?
Speaker 3: Now? I started cattying in two thousand and eight, so
Speaker 3: I had caddy for JB. And just like we grew
Speaker 3: up playing golf together and sometimes we would take turns
Speaker 3: catting for each other. So we very much know each
Speaker 3: other's games. And he had me come out just to
Speaker 3: a couple of random tour events. I think it was
Speaker 3: a fun I in Florida when he was on tour
Speaker 3: and like oh six and I started full time.
Speaker 4: In eight and we really enjoyed it. I had quite
Speaker 4: a bit of success.
Speaker 3: I took some time to play in two thousand, late
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, first part twenty thirteen, and then he asked
Speaker 3: me to come back. So it's happy to come back
Speaker 3: get back to work with him. We've had a great
Speaker 3: year to about fourteen. I think he's made just over
Speaker 3: two million dollars.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the last time I checked, it looked like
Speaker 1: it was just over two million dollars. And you still
Speaker 1: have quite a way to go in the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still have quite a season left, so we're
Speaker 3: just trying to cone in on little ways to get better.
Speaker 4: Some things we can do. Even at this level, it's.
Speaker 3: Great to always feel like you can get a little
Speaker 3: bit better. And I think that's what draws us to golf,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, even if you go out and
Speaker 3: shoot eighteen under, there was still you're like, man, that
Speaker 3: one left on the edge. Maybe it was for a
Speaker 3: hole in one, but that's that's crazy. That's what the
Speaker 3: mind does.
Speaker 4: You know, you never seem to be happy.
Speaker 3: Feel like you can strive for just to get a
Speaker 3: little better, and perfection never happens.
Speaker 5: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never met let me take that back. I've
Speaker 1: met one golfer in my life that said he was
Speaker 1: a good golfer. I've never met anybody say are you
Speaker 1: a golfer? Like I'm okay, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: at my barber, he's like, oh yeah, I'm good, I'm
Speaker 1: a good golfer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like really, I've never heard anybody say that before. It's
Speaker 1: really amazing.
Speaker 3: But like you see, and then you want to you
Speaker 3: want to go play with your barber and see what
Speaker 3: he thinks is good, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Because a different level, I have.
Speaker 1: No interest in playing with this guy because I don't
Speaker 1: want him to start giving me lessons on the course.
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling he's going to start telling
Speaker 1: me what I'm doing wrong, and I have no interest
Speaker 1: in that whatsoever. I understand, But but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you you you go out and play with somebody and
Speaker 1: they say, so, are you a good golfer? I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm okay, I'm shooting in the you know,
Speaker 1: the mid eighties right now, Like wow, you're really good,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, but then if you you know,
Speaker 1: from his perspective, I always kind of see shooting in
Speaker 1: the eighties is kind of like turning sixty, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's when you're sixty year old to young people and
Speaker 1: you're young to old people.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, well I'm starting to know again. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you want to get away from score, I'm just
Speaker 3: starting to notice that. I would call anyone that can
Speaker 3: be on the golf course and hitting shots and playing
Speaker 3: and keeping score if it looks like they're enjoying it,
Speaker 3: so you see them smiling, I would call them a
Speaker 3: good golfer. Somehow they've managed to hear you're keeping score
Speaker 3: and obviously you're not going to hit a perfect shot
Speaker 3: every time, so you deal with the frustration in a
Speaker 3: happy way. So anybody that can do that, in my mind,
Speaker 3: i'm you know, I'm starting to because that's the guys
Speaker 3: you know at programs and even on the tour where
Speaker 3: it just looks like they're not enjoying it like while
Speaker 3: you know, like while the understanding of that this is
Speaker 3: a game.
Speaker 5: So I love that, I think along with h Yeah,
Speaker 5: if he's.
Speaker 3: Present and just seeing the golf course and that gets
Speaker 3: us back again to the targeting or the golf.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I like that.
Speaker 1: It's like if you think you're if you're having fun,
Speaker 1: then you're a good golfer.
Speaker 5: Why not my little.
Speaker 3: Boy, I don't know. He's five and we go out
Speaker 3: and he sees everything you know out there in the
Speaker 3: golf work.
Speaker 4: He has a black Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean he shoots one hundred and fifty if you
Speaker 3: ask him, So he's a good golfer.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't realize. You've got you've got a five
Speaker 1: year old and you're on the road thirty weeks a year.
Speaker 5: That's got to be tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that cannot with me. Just when we can make
Speaker 3: it happen.
Speaker 4: But my wife is very supportive and it's been it's
Speaker 4: been a really good ride.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when when the guy you're working for is
Speaker 1: generating over two million dollars, you know, part the way
Speaker 1: through the season. Yeah, I think you should be supportive.
Speaker 1: I think she realized you're having.
Speaker 5: Fun, but she realizes.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm lucky enough that I really love golf.
Speaker 3: I love gathering more information and learning, and that's what,
Speaker 3: you know, Golf is my motivation. You get to do that,
Speaker 3: and you know I take walks every day. We're out
Speaker 3: on the course for four four and a half hours
Speaker 3: with with my best buddy. You know, so it's.
Speaker 5: It's it's well, your best buddy.
Speaker 1: This year, yeah, this year, his winnings. You know, we
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about enough. But he's had some tough
Speaker 1: years the last couple of years too. He wasn't even
Speaker 1: did he not even get to compete for a while.
Speaker 1: He had some tough time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he had he had some surgery just the
Speaker 3: ki mountformation, so he had some skull removed which was
Speaker 3: very scary. Oh and then uh, he had a rollerblading
Speaker 3: accident and broken ankle and then he's had some surgery
Speaker 3: on his elbow and it's amazing. But again he used
Speaker 3: it as a motivation just to say, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: work out. I'm going to overcome all these things, and
Speaker 3: he's kind of out and want to get on tour.
Speaker 3: And I'm you know, I'm very proud of him.
Speaker 1: I would think, well, being an old friend of his,
Speaker 1: have you guys grew up playing together and competing against
Speaker 1: one another. I got to imagine, and as as a cat,
Speaker 1: I've got to imagine there's been a lot of pep
Speaker 1: talks that come from you to get him back on track.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know more, it's just like, you know,
Speaker 3: you just wanted to hang in there because golf, like
Speaker 3: we just talked about, and very frustrating. So we're just
Speaker 3: trying to get back to the enjoyment and while we
Speaker 3: love golf and just every day, you know, just try
Speaker 3: to see the golf course and just noticing just little things.
Speaker 3: You know, you can play golf for a long time
Speaker 3: and never noticed that there are any birds chirping on
Speaker 3: the golf course today, You've not heard any for four years,
Speaker 3: and maybe you start hearing those, you know, you're on
Speaker 3: the right tranck if that may soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a new discovery just recently. Two of
Speaker 1: the golf courses that I play in the county I
Speaker 1: live in are dog friendly. Golf courses.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 1: And so I have I have a little dog. I
Speaker 1: mean she's only about seventeen pounds, but she has been
Speaker 1: out with me four times now, and I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna have to take my dog for a
Speaker 1: walk and I walk the golf course, why don't I
Speaker 1: just bring the dog. And she's been awesome. And the
Speaker 1: friends that I play with like when I bring her out,
Speaker 1: They're like, really, you're bringing your dog. And by the
Speaker 1: end of the round they were so happy that she
Speaker 1: was there because she's got this calming thing about her.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like when you're feeling frustrated stuff, you go over
Speaker 1: and you snuggle and pet with the dog and you
Speaker 1: feel great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dog doesn't Your dog doesn't care if you know,
Speaker 3: if he cop a shot or hit it in the woods,
Speaker 3: or if you burnied a hole you never made burnie
Speaker 3: on before, hit your longest drive. I mean, she's enjoying
Speaker 3: being It's like a park to dog, you know. So
Speaker 3: she's enjoying that experience from that point of view, which
Speaker 3: is what we should be doing. You know. I think
Speaker 3: we forget some time to get attached to the results
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's maybe an episode will be Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll be That's an episode we're going to be doing soon.
Speaker 1: Is how what your dog could teach you on the
Speaker 1: golf course.
Speaker 4: That's very good, very good.
Speaker 1: But if you ever get the chance to take a
Speaker 1: dog out with it, you got to give it a try.
Speaker 5: It's really a lot of oh you have yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I love.
Speaker 3: I had a black lab growing up, and we took
Speaker 3: him to the golf course some and their experiences just
Speaker 3: really opened your eyes, you know differently, you really do.
Speaker 1: But I live next to a golf course and on
Speaker 1: July fourth Holiday, just recently, somebody who lives on my
Speaker 1: block had company over and brought their dog with them,
Speaker 1: and the dog jumped over the fence onto the golf
Speaker 1: course and the dog and these guys are looking around like,
Speaker 1: who's that? Wait a minute, what is this dog doing here?
Speaker 1: You can see these golfers were so frustrated, and the
Speaker 1: dog was one of those hurting shepherds and was having
Speaker 1: so much fun. But every time a guy would take
Speaker 1: a shot, the dog would run down the fairway, pick
Speaker 1: up the ball and bring it back. You could imagine
Speaker 1: what this, yeah, you can imagine these these country club
Speaker 1: guys who just play the same course over and over
Speaker 1: again and play the same shot, and play the same
Speaker 1: club at the same tea box and hit it in
Speaker 1: the same bunker every time, and they never changed their
Speaker 1: game with something like that really rattled their cage.
Speaker 5: It was very funny to watch exactly.
Speaker 3: It's two opposite energies flipping. You know. Dogger is just
Speaker 3: all all blah. And you got people that you know, like,
Speaker 3: like you just said, play the same game. They play
Speaker 3: the same course, and it's like they've never thought, well,
Speaker 3: you know, is it good? I always I'm always long
Speaker 3: as this screen and it's terrible back there. It's all downhill,
Speaker 3: or you know, I never I don't like that ship.
Speaker 3: I wonder why they don't just hit a different club
Speaker 3: to a different spot and or go look and see
Speaker 3: where the good spot is.
Speaker 1: Recently, Dave Stock and we had a really great conversation
Speaker 1: and he talked about how he took two clubs with
Speaker 1: him to every shot. He would never decide just based
Speaker 1: on the yardage. He would take two different clubs and
Speaker 1: decide for him it was is it a high shot
Speaker 1: or a low shot? And he didn't make any decision
Speaker 1: until he was standing behind the ball and assessing exactly
Speaker 1: what he needed to accomplish before he decided which club
Speaker 1: to hit. Yeah, which was a huge lesson for me.
Speaker 3: The main thing when I took away from him, it
Speaker 3: is just using your imagination. Sure I can talk about
Speaker 3: with where you want your ball to be, just using
Speaker 3: your imagination more and seeing he takes two clubs because
Speaker 3: he's playing with the trajectory. So he just would rather
Speaker 3: instead of trying to deloss a sixty degree. Everybody uses
Speaker 3: a sixty degree now at team, So instead of trying
Speaker 3: to deloss that and force the club into doing a
Speaker 3: shot it's not really built for, he would just switch
Speaker 3: to a fifty six or fifty four or nine iron
Speaker 3: and then he can keep it. He can keep his
Speaker 3: body or his technique if you will, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call that. He doesn't have to channel, can just
Speaker 3: change the tool to match the trajectory that he has
Speaker 3: in his imagination. You know which You're awesome? Right?
Speaker 1: Spectacular?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: If do you when you're when you're traveling, So now
Speaker 1: you're traveling by car, but during in between tournaments and stuff,
Speaker 1: you're flying with JB all the time.
Speaker 3: Though right now we fly, we travel separately, So it's
Speaker 3: an hour. If I can, it's I can work it
Speaker 3: out so that I can get home, because if I
Speaker 3: can drive, then I have more freedom, you know, if
Speaker 3: I'll have to wait on a flight or rush to
Speaker 3: a flight. I just felt like I don't like the
Speaker 3: experience really going through airports and you're having to be
Speaker 3: somewhere at a certain time. So if if I can drive,
Speaker 3: its ten hours away. It just depending on, you know,
Speaker 3: if we're going to be four weeks in a row.
Speaker 3: If we're going to be four in a row, I'll fly.
Speaker 3: But if I can, if I can find a way
Speaker 3: to drive, I try to drive, but we fly separately.
Speaker 3: We're gonna fly to the British Open. We are going
Speaker 3: to do that together.
Speaker 4: Then we'll come home, be home a week, and then
Speaker 4: we'll be heading to Acron for.
Speaker 3: The Firestone and then the PGA, and then we'll get
Speaker 3: ready for the playoffs and we'll do several in a
Speaker 3: row in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: So looking forward to to all those events.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet good luck on those. When now, when
Speaker 1: you say you when you fly separately, do you mean
Speaker 1: he flies first class and you fly coach or he
Speaker 1: flies charter and you fly commercial or you take different planes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, different, we're on different airplanes usually because why I'm flying,
Speaker 3: I'm flying home, or maybe you have scheduled a different flight.
Speaker 3: We're just seat responsible for our own travel, you know. Now,
Speaker 3: there there are times like he did have a deal
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 4: Past where maybe he has the private planes.
Speaker 3: I mean, if he's flying privately or something like that,
Speaker 3: he's taking me along, and you know, I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 4: It's awful.
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of schedule. We just schedule, schedule
Speaker 3: our own flights. And here recently he's been flying just
Speaker 3: commercial a lot more so hm hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you listen to audio books when you're on the
Speaker 1: road or do you know if JB.
Speaker 3: But Jady and I have talked about it. He's been
Speaker 3: listening to more and more audio books, which is you know,
Speaker 3: is great. So we talked about just some audiobooks and
Speaker 3: things that he's listened to. And I think it'll be
Speaker 3: great because I don't have to take you know, now,
Speaker 3: with today's technology, don't have to have a book with
Speaker 3: you and and you know, come on the I phone
Speaker 3: and on the fly or in the car. So that
Speaker 3: would be great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's true. You download stuff automatically right down
Speaker 1: to your iPhone. I know that you're you, and I
Speaker 1: are talking on your cell phone right now on your iPhone.
Speaker 1: I actually just took a driving trip down from the
Speaker 1: San Francisco area down to Los Angeles and found an
Speaker 1: eight hour book that took me there and back and
Speaker 1: it was a really fun book. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It's called ten Percent Happier. How I tamed the voice
Speaker 1: in my head, reduced stress without losing my edge, and
Speaker 1: found a self help that actually works. And it's written
Speaker 1: by this guy named Dan Harris. Now, he was the
Speaker 1: nightline anchor and he's worked for ABC Network and he
Speaker 1: had a panic attack live on television while he was
Speaker 1: doing a newscast on Good Morning America, and so he
Speaker 1: realized at that point that he had to make some changes.
Speaker 1: He's a non believer. He found himself in a very
Speaker 1: bizarre situation, and then ABC made him their religious reporter,
Speaker 1: and he was like, why am I covering religion? I
Speaker 1: don't make it. But he just went on this self
Speaker 1: help exploration and he found a way to tame his voice.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because while I was listening to it,
Speaker 1: and he talked about meditation, he talked about mindfulness. It
Speaker 1: resonated to me because so much of what I have
Speaker 1: talked about on Golf Smarter really is kind of mindfulness,
Speaker 1: and that is all that is is being present, being
Speaker 1: in the moment. And so many instructors, so many mental
Speaker 1: coaches that we've had on the show, talk about being
Speaker 1: in the moment, focusing on the process and not about
Speaker 1: the outcome. And Dan Harris talks about how all of
Speaker 1: this work for him made him ten percent happier. And
Speaker 1: it's a really entertaining book because there's so many stories,
Speaker 1: especially if you like media and get his background and
Speaker 1: turning Diane Sawyer onto meditation, that kind of stuff. It's
Speaker 1: a great book to check out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's great. Just mindfulness and being president. That's
Speaker 3: exactly what Tarry Orion Golf is about. And what you know,
Speaker 3: what Colin is figured out how to do is just
Speaker 3: basically get somebody. So it's easiest to okay, be mindful,
Speaker 3: and it's easy to say, okay, be present, but now
Speaker 3: how do you help me? Right? How do you know?
Speaker 3: How do I do that?
Speaker 4: What does that look like?
Speaker 3: And so he has actually studied, you know, the brainway
Speaker 3: patterns and everything of what what the brainways look like
Speaker 3: when they're in this when someone is in the zone
Speaker 3: that you know when you talk about all was in
Speaker 3: the zone and is that okay? Why don't you just
Speaker 3: get back to the zone. Why do you call out
Speaker 3: his zone? Why does that happen? I'm a golfer and
Speaker 3: it's happened to me, and it's like, how do you
Speaker 3: put your finger on that? So that's what he has,
Speaker 3: you know, the vault, a way to just basically do that.
Speaker 3: And he called the target or in a golf and
Speaker 3: it makes sense because the easiest way to do it
Speaker 3: is just by finding a specific target. And it can
Speaker 3: be anything that you enjoy looking at that is in
Speaker 3: the picture of where you would like to get the golf.
Speaker 3: So let's say you're staying on this and bocks and
Speaker 3: you know there's this panoramic you but you're not necessarily
Speaker 3: looking in the tree still left of the fairway. You're
Speaker 3: looking somewhere through the stairway. There'll be something that just
Speaker 3: stands out and on toward everywhere there's a specific tree.
Speaker 3: It's like an architect put it there on purpose. Every
Speaker 3: hole we have that, and I found when I play
Speaker 3: other places every hole has that there's something that stands out.
Speaker 3: It's like God put it there for you to look
Speaker 3: at the architecture. You know, who never built the gout force,
Speaker 3: whatever it is, that's where you should be looking to
Speaker 3: hit this shot. And that's what you should be thinking
Speaker 3: about while you swing, not your golf swing, Not what
Speaker 3: you're going to tell your friends, Not that this is
Speaker 3: going to be your longest sea side to day, not
Speaker 3: that you're down for in your match, not that you're
Speaker 3: up for in your match. Think about the party every
Speaker 3: time on the driving range and the event of your life.
Speaker 3: And that is the breakdown that happens when when people
Speaker 3: are playing golf, you know, And it's simple to explain
Speaker 3: once you understand, in my opinion, once you understand what
Speaker 3: Paul's talking about with target orient golf. But it's not
Speaker 3: necessarily easy to do because it's falling into this trap
Speaker 3: the results only in it, like you just said, and
Speaker 3: going past future and lighting your mind just just run
Speaker 3: them up. So you know, said before to someone that
Speaker 3: you either control your mind or it's going to control you.
Speaker 3: And everybody goes up to the golf course and they
Speaker 3: let their mind control them, and you can tell it's
Speaker 3: controlling them because they don't seem to be enjoying golf
Speaker 3: very much. They'll come back and play again tomorrow or
Speaker 3: next weekend. They like it enough because they hit that
Speaker 3: one shot.
Speaker 4: They're hooked.
Speaker 3: They hit that shot they know they can do, and
Speaker 3: they keep saying, walk down and do that every time. Right,
Speaker 3: you're adlter. So so.
Speaker 1: You have worked with Colin, you've studied with Colin, or
Speaker 1: you just like the concept that he's he's been doing.
Speaker 3: You know, I calling something. So I got together with
Speaker 3: Colin just basically I'd played in some advances and I've
Speaker 3: been away from competition golf for a while. So the
Speaker 3: first thing that happened I near that acuse, the payment event,
Speaker 3: anything that you're looking forward to for a long time
Speaker 3: and you practice for, and that's what you're thinking about
Speaker 3: when you're practicing, Right, that's how you could practice all
Speaker 3: practice event I want to do well. You're practicing your touch,
Speaker 3: you're thinking about that, So that's the future. You're not
Speaker 3: being in the present when you practice. Then that event happens,
Speaker 3: and it's impossible to be in the president at that part.
Speaker 3: You haven't really practicing in the president. And then you
Speaker 3: don't get the results you wanted, and you're like, what,
Speaker 3: you know the practice? HA spent all these hours practicing golf,
Speaker 3: and so I knew I had a problem that no
Speaker 3: one had. Really. It was the first time I knew
Speaker 3: it was a problem. I went, I went to the
Speaker 3: huge school event and just hit you know, I was
Speaker 3: playing well and just hit this shot off the map
Speaker 3: and that's not like me. I hit it in the water,
Speaker 3: you know. Lastly, I guess you would call a double cross.
Speaker 3: I've never really hit that kind of shot before. And
Speaker 3: I thought, I knew that my mind had it's gotten
Speaker 3: away from me. So I just started looking for anybody,
Speaker 3: you know, just anybody could on online basically, and there
Speaker 3: was Target Warning a golf and I read about it,
Speaker 3: and on his website he was describing what exactly what
Speaker 3: I thought my problem was. And then he had these
Speaker 3: one after shots and you could tell a different I
Speaker 3: couldn't tell what the difference was. And so I got
Speaker 3: ahold of just through actually end point golf model thing
Speaker 3: in the UK said hey, you know this guy is
Speaker 3: actually I just went with that with that calling. So
Speaker 3: he put us in touch, introduced us, and I started
Speaker 3: talking to him and I posted conversation. I mean, he
Speaker 3: he call and explain to me exactly what my problem was.
Speaker 3: And I talked to him every week for the next
Speaker 3: few weeks and we just talked about target warning golf
Speaker 3: and I would send him videos of me doing it,
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know, I came to an understanding of
Speaker 3: exactly what he was talking about and was able to
Speaker 3: put in practice. And more importantly, I'm able to from
Speaker 3: a caddy standpoint, help the player focus on the things
Speaker 3: that we need to focus on, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: which is the target. We practice with the target, and
Speaker 3: we played them with the parties, and now we're able
Speaker 3: to practice more closely instead of being worrying about the
Speaker 3: swinging so much. I mean again, if the traffic comes
Speaker 3: up right. But you'll find for the weekend golfers out there,
Speaker 3: you'll find that it's when you spend time practicing or
Speaker 3: you're thinking at home about the target, like a hole
Speaker 3: that you saw, if you knew what your target was,
Speaker 3: that's different than just knowing that there was a fairly
Speaker 3: there and you had no idea really what you were
Speaker 3: swinging in You're trying to get the ball affairly and
Speaker 3: you were thinking about maybe your release, or maybe your
Speaker 3: weight shift, or maybe something somebody told you you got
Speaker 3: to make sure this dellow.
Speaker 4: Is here or that.
Speaker 3: That's totally different experience than thinking about the target and
Speaker 3: reacting to the target. Totally different. And you'll know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about when you reflect that.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're cooking.
Speaker 3: Then a leader and you can go through the holes
Speaker 3: and every hole is you have a target, and you'll
Speaker 3: be at first when you start doing this sorry orient
Speaker 3: a golf, there'll be holes that you slipped up and
Speaker 3: you'll realize, oh, I don't know what my parget was there.
Speaker 3: And when you get really good at it, you start
Speaker 3: you start catching it when you step into your shot,
Speaker 3: and when you in mind you start trying to paint
Speaker 3: a picture. When when you make your dolls clean, what
Speaker 3: that part it is? And when you can't do it,
Speaker 3: it's because you don't have one, because you never really
Speaker 3: sold one. You're just swinging the club at nothing, and
Speaker 3: then you wonder why you don't get your results you want.
Speaker 3: So I kind of go together. You're talking about being present,
Speaker 3: not being a results oriented, and we're talking about enjoyment
Speaker 3: a golf and what's called dolfhood. It is you're you're
Speaker 3: outside with friends or people you like to at least
Speaker 3: be around.
Speaker 4: You're at a park.
Speaker 3: Basically, you've got landset aside that is free. Of course,
Speaker 3: it is not as beautiful birds, water ducks, you know,
Speaker 3: all these beautiful things. And you've got these picture, these
Speaker 3: these pictures, these views that you can look at, and
Speaker 3: I'm saying, just start looking at them, because everybody looks
Speaker 3: down at the ground and see this white ball, and
Speaker 3: then that's the frustration. I'm saying, look up and find
Speaker 3: the target. It's get that in your mind and the
Speaker 3: enjoyment comes, and then you start feeling like that the
Speaker 3: story you just talked about with the dog, I mean
Speaker 3: he's having a blast, is having a good time on
Speaker 3: the golf course. And then you can say I'm a
Speaker 3: good golfer and your score won't reflect it. But it
Speaker 3: won't be in the score.
Speaker 4: That won't be while you know you're good.
Speaker 3: You know you're good because you enjoyed the time you
Speaker 3: stand out there which your friends.
Speaker 1: On the target concept, Am I picking a spot that
Speaker 1: I want the ball to land on? Am I picking
Speaker 1: like you were saying, a tree in the distance that
Speaker 1: I want my ballflight to follow?
Speaker 5: I'm looking that.
Speaker 1: Give me specific because I know that sometimes I'll look
Speaker 1: at a spot on the fairway and I'll focus on
Speaker 1: that spot on the fairway, and then when I get
Speaker 1: you know, and then I bring my head back, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now that I'm looking at the ball,
Speaker 1: I start thinking about, Okay, make sure my elbow doesn't
Speaker 1: fly out, make sure that my weight shift is correct, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll get lost in that, and then I
Speaker 1: but but don't and then you know, and then I
Speaker 1: hear myself, but don't forget where you're trying to hit
Speaker 1: the ball. So there's too many things obviously going on
Speaker 1: in my head at once, but I get lost on
Speaker 1: whether I'm you know, focusing on a landing spot or
Speaker 1: a ball flight or are they mutually exclusive? Are they
Speaker 1: the same thing?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's so. On the on the tea box,
Speaker 3: most often, what what I will talk about is there
Speaker 3: will be playing to wear that has tree. So I'm
Speaker 3: usually looking at a certain color tree or a trunk.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's a clickd trunk. Maybe there's a tree that
Speaker 3: makes a why so you would your ball would never
Speaker 3: get to that tree that might be through the fair
Speaker 3: way on the line that would be anywhere on that
Speaker 3: line would be good. So maybe maybe the cover to
Speaker 3: get to the fairway is like to twenty and then
Speaker 3: you run out to go and through the rough on
Speaker 3: the other side is like three thirty. You with me,
Speaker 3: So we have a line created and you you can
Speaker 3: draw into that line. You can fade into that line
Speaker 3: that you're wanting to call the end somewhere on that line,
Speaker 3: but it can never get to that tree because it's
Speaker 3: three is four hundred yards away or four und yards
Speaker 3: away maybe, or maybe it's three hundred and thirty yards away.
Speaker 3: So there's this picture, and then what if I took
Speaker 3: a picture with a camera and then brought it to you.
Speaker 3: I would circle on a rip saying, hey, you know
Speaker 3: on this line, I can show you on this line,
Speaker 3: if you get it towards this tree, you have to
Speaker 3: get a two and twenty yards get to the fairway,
Speaker 3: or two hundre yards get to the fairway, and then
Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty three. Now, if those numbers that
Speaker 3: work for you can can't hit it to it in
Speaker 3: twenty yards, you need to have a different target. You
Speaker 3: with me, Yeah, you would shift it over to where
Speaker 3: you can reach the fairway. Say, okay, So if I'm
Speaker 3: describing a target for my wife, is just a game
Speaker 3: golf I describe, I'm like, hey, do you see that?
Speaker 3: You know, there's this tree, there's this group of pie.
Speaker 3: Now my target sometimes is way less closer to the green,
Speaker 3: you know, and I find something that I like to
Speaker 3: think about. She may not ever see you're playing the
Speaker 3: framed golf course, but she would never see what I'm
Speaker 3: necessarily looking at. And I would never look when I'm
Speaker 3: playing off. I would never necessarily look where she's looking.
Speaker 3: But it needs to be something. It can be a
Speaker 3: bird on a tree, you know. You know, a bird
Speaker 3: might fly away, but a bird might direct you towards
Speaker 3: the tree you never saw before. So that's on the
Speaker 3: pie that is when we get closer to the hole.
Speaker 3: They can be that spot on the green. But there's
Speaker 3: a problem if you're picking the spot to land in
Speaker 3: the fairway, well what if your drive is man a
Speaker 3: favor than that, you know, so it's easier just to
Speaker 3: pick trunking up and you want to you know, and
Speaker 3: it's doing the track man. Everything is related, but TrackMan
Speaker 3: never say to me the boss fall you will end up,
Speaker 3: you know, pluck two to four degrees and sing out well,
Speaker 3: So you want to be looking at something higher because
Speaker 3: you want to hit up on a driver. You want
Speaker 3: to catch it on the upswing right of your circle
Speaker 3: by spurs of chips. You're going to land somewhere short
Speaker 3: of the can so now and if it's breaking to
Speaker 3: the left, your target will be shortened to the right
Speaker 3: of the top and if you and you can make
Speaker 3: your circle, depending on how good at golf, how much
Speaker 3: you get, lady to make your circle bigger, you can
Speaker 3: have a bigger target, or you can make it smaller,
Speaker 3: especially if you're playing well, or or if it's significantly downhill.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you have a small fot it's closer to
Speaker 3: you and you just have to bump it. We've all
Speaker 3: done this. You just want to where you were doing it.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're going to hear a little nine here and
Speaker 3: it's a downhill right left breaking you know, twenty feet away.
Speaker 3: You're not trying to knock a nine iron in the hole. Oh.
Speaker 3: You shift your target closer to you and further to
Speaker 3: the right, and you're like, I just think it's that
Speaker 3: fought and the ball will tunnel down to the hole
Speaker 3: that moment you're doing target only a golf and most
Speaker 3: of the time people are successful on those types of shots.
Speaker 3: It's just I'm talking about and talk expanding that fought
Speaker 3: all the way back toity and doing it every time.
Speaker 3: So in a sense it can be a little bit boring,
Speaker 3: but it's not boring, and that you get to see
Speaker 3: more of the golf course and you notice these things
Speaker 3: that were there all along. But most of the time
Speaker 3: people are just looking at the golf ball and thinking
Speaker 3: about the golfspel. So then you want to get to
Speaker 3: enjoy the golf course.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's mind blows because they're all along and most
Speaker 3: people have done it, you know, they just don't they're
Speaker 3: not aware. So really, Colin has a systematic way of
Speaker 3: just becoming aware. And if you do that every day
Speaker 3: you practice and every day you play golf, you get
Speaker 3: better because you get feedbacks when you miss your target.
Speaker 3: You don't have to go to the golf swing and
Speaker 3: think technically, all my faces up at your feet and
Speaker 3: you have a feeling all of a sudden, feelings is
Speaker 3: so big because your mind is the only thinking about
Speaker 3: the target, and then you can adjust your feeling and
Speaker 3: guess what your swing comes out looking just like track
Speaker 3: man says it should, or just like the guys on tour.
Speaker 3: It takes time and you're I'm not saying you're gonna
Speaker 3: have You're gonna have your tour swan that you understand,
Speaker 3: and that is golf actually knowing where the golf ball
Speaker 3: is going to go before you hit it, whether it's
Speaker 3: a favor or all, whatever it is. Once you have,
Speaker 3: once you can hit a four and different difference in
Speaker 3: a set of iron and then some sort of wood
Speaker 3: a little bit further than before you are playing golf.
Speaker 3: The next thing you want to do then is understanding
Speaker 3: uphiel shots are easier in general than downhill shots because
Speaker 3: gravity will stop it. So then you're looking for places
Speaker 3: that you can get your ball around the green, that
Speaker 3: you have an uphill chip or an upfield putt, and
Speaker 3: then you can start having lower scores. You know, so
Speaker 3: eighteen number is nine. So if you're not working ninety,
Speaker 3: you need to find some way where do you like
Speaker 3: to hit your shot from the fairway, Like if you
Speaker 3: block out on the left, if the dog leg left,
Speaker 3: you already know you don't want your target to be
Speaker 3: down the left unless you hate it. Maybe it's great.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna hear it the sling, you're going to
Speaker 3: the that part of the saily. So your target to
Speaker 3: be you could start it on the left corner. There
Speaker 3: may be a tree that you love to swing it,
Speaker 3: and you can just wear it out and do your
Speaker 3: swing at that target. But you know the balls want
Speaker 3: to cut. You're playing golf. Now when you get to
Speaker 3: the next shot, you know you only shore the hole. Well,
Speaker 3: you're seven, I might get through the hole. Getting through
Speaker 3: the whole badge is it's extremely downhill. So you choose
Speaker 3: an adie and you find a target that you like
Speaker 3: looking at, and you know it's gonna fade. So maybe
Speaker 3: the front left of the green. There the tree, there's
Speaker 3: the green. Maybe there's a cart path there. Everybody's seeing
Speaker 3: these places I'm talking about, and they've done it. It's
Speaker 3: just being aware and starting to do it every time.
Speaker 3: Then you're playing golf, you aid out and stay shore.
Speaker 3: Maybe you get to get it and it just creeps up.
Speaker 3: Now you have an upfield chair, throw an upfield cut,
Speaker 3: chip up putt that's above chip up. Make a putt
Speaker 3: below the hole.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's a part and then just waiting for those opportunities
Speaker 3: where you're comfortable with anchershot and then you might make
Speaker 3: a birdie, had a birdie Clott. But those happen almost
Speaker 3: by accident, and it's not like you purpose to say
Speaker 3: I'm going to burdy this whole. No, there's a plane
Speaker 3: you can put in play with targets that can lead
Speaker 3: you to a birdie, you know, but it's not just
Speaker 3: step up and work and just swinging targ I can
Speaker 3: you know, and think about releasing the club and think
Speaker 3: about this elbow that's not going to lead you where
Speaker 3: you want to be. That's frustration, the that's what you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is all a critical element of the
Speaker 1: pre shot routine.
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, And what I really liked about talking with
Speaker 3: Colin you know about the pre shot routine is that
Speaker 3: you're maybe stepping across a creek or you know, climbing
Speaker 3: not climbing once. Once you have a process that you're
Speaker 3: comfortable with, and it starts with you and confirming okay,
Speaker 3: you have that thing. You need to be aware you're
Speaker 3: on a golf course. You want to be here right,
Speaker 3: so you're going to enjoy the next thirty You needs
Speaker 3: to be enjoyment, which is where you're chosen to be.
Speaker 3: Then you're going too what do I see you before me?
Speaker 3: You know, oh, okay, there's a creek. Am I going
Speaker 3: over the creek?
Speaker 4: Short the creek?
Speaker 3: So you're making a decision on your club. Okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna go over the creek and we have one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty yards to the front is longod from a
Speaker 3: catting standpoint. I'm just telling you what I would do
Speaker 3: it in a couple of seconds to help the player.
Speaker 3: You know, it might take me longer to explain, but
Speaker 3: you do this in a few seconds. Short, this pin
Speaker 3: is better. You know, we have twenty yards to cover
Speaker 3: over the creek, so shorts good. One fifty front, so
Speaker 3: nine ie gets to the front and the king down seven.
Speaker 3: But we know shorts, okay, we could maybe chip it
Speaker 3: in or you know, we are gonna feel shot, so
Speaker 3: we're gonna choose a nine iron. The wind is you know,
Speaker 3: there's not my twin right now? And then you're gonna
Speaker 3: find a target. Okay, what is short left? When I
Speaker 3: look short left, what do I see? And that there
Speaker 3: will lead this tree track? All right, that's my target.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna hit the tree truck.
Speaker 3: Now, if it's saved a little bit, yeah, maybe I
Speaker 3: hit it closer I'm into. But if it goes exactly
Speaker 3: where I want, I would have an upheel left to
Speaker 3: right Bertie put Now, if you want to write an
Speaker 3: uphill right to left Birdy putt. I'm talking about people
Speaker 3: that have played the golfers. They know what they know
Speaker 3: where they like to put from. You might choose a
Speaker 3: target a different tree just to the right, opinion right.
Speaker 3: If you get close enough and you have an a
Speaker 3: R shot and you really are good with your legs,
Speaker 3: your target can be a pin. You know, it doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be. Your desired outcome is different than your target,
Speaker 3: most of it. Sometimes they are the same. The time
Speaker 3: that's the same would be like a three foot straight putt.
Speaker 3: All right, But as far as you get what we've
Speaker 3: learned from main point, if you're above the whole breaking
Speaker 3: left to right and the drink since eleven, now your
Speaker 3: target is closer to you on further out to the
Speaker 3: left as a whole, because gravity's gonna think it to
Speaker 3: the right, so your target can't be the whole. You'll
Speaker 3: miss it. Well right, we won't have to hit it hard.
Speaker 3: You could go straight over the cup your target.
Speaker 4: Then are you with me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, where people kind of get confused your cognitive that
Speaker 3: place a place like that niner and where do you
Speaker 3: make this fall and you can go back in. You
Speaker 3: can do it to this place and then grabbing it
Speaker 3: kind of the rest with a driver. Your target is
Speaker 3: somewhere down range and it's fun. You know, it can
Speaker 3: be a cloud if they're not moving.
Speaker 4: I mean growing up.
Speaker 3: There there was some guys and then we were doing
Speaker 3: this stuff. And I think people do it all the
Speaker 3: time when they play.
Speaker 4: They're just not aware of this that we're doing this
Speaker 4: stuff when we're unger.
Speaker 3: Oh, you'll hit it fat, you know, you'll hit this
Speaker 3: uh the tier line poles, you know. I mean, as
Speaker 3: long as you hit that direction, you'll see down to
Speaker 3: the right and kind of going fairly or you know
Speaker 3: that's the rough, the land and the rough, but it's
Speaker 3: going to just down. That's your target, the self a pulse.
Speaker 3: But that cloud above them today, there's a cloud there.
Speaker 3: It's fay. They're not might not be. That's why cloud
Speaker 3: aren't necessarily good accuses the target, you know, But as
Speaker 3: long as you're there in the moment, you can choose
Speaker 3: that your ball is ever going to hit that cloud,
Speaker 3: though the question about where the target would.
Speaker 1: Be, Yeah, your mind may hit the cloud. But that's
Speaker 1: a different topic altogether.
Speaker 4: I like and that's yes exactly.
Speaker 1: I like the the concept of desired outcome is different
Speaker 1: than the target. You said that a moment ago, and.
Speaker 5: Should we not?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that folks on the target and forget
Speaker 1: about the desired outcome? Or is desired outcome an important
Speaker 1: part of your preshot routine?
Speaker 3: Well, the desired outcome we need keep the choosing the target,
Speaker 3: doesn't it?
Speaker 5: Yea in the hole of course?
Speaker 3: How am I going to get this ball to roll
Speaker 3: in the hole? Well, that's how you're gonna shoot your target. Now,
Speaker 3: let's say you go through your pre short routine. Like
Speaker 3: I said, you can't too on a large So you know,
Speaker 3: now we're putting all right, uh downhill left the riot
Speaker 3: your chosen point pain point. Also that knowledge has helped
Speaker 3: us maybe choose a choose a target, but really desired outcome.
Speaker 3: You know from experience that this put's going to go
Speaker 3: down onto the left, and you've chosen there's this little uh,
Speaker 3: there's this little ball mark that you know that your
Speaker 3: ball just rolls over the inside edge, then it'll just
Speaker 3: be it just funnels over to the hole. So now
Speaker 3: that's our target inside, you know, the inside part of
Speaker 3: this ball mark and you're gonna step in, and you
Speaker 3: have this checklist of things that helps you get comfortable.
Speaker 3: Some people get tour players do it, you know. Some
Speaker 3: people twist their hips a little bit. Some people fidget
Speaker 3: with their whatever they're doing, they do that. It's not
Speaker 3: that they're they're not thinking about shaking their hands. It's
Speaker 3: that they're thinking about something else, and they shake their
Speaker 3: hand when they think about that, right, And that's why
Speaker 3: they do it.
Speaker 5: Every time they use that, they use that as a trigger.
Speaker 1: They use that to try to get their mind away
Speaker 1: from getting in that direction.
Speaker 3: Well, you know a lot of people that talk to
Speaker 3: don't know that they're doing it.
Speaker 5: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: But it's not a matter necessarily of to change to
Speaker 3: get their mind away from something. It's just a matter
Speaker 3: of that's that's what helps them. That little move gets
Speaker 3: that's how they double check to make sure that maybe
Speaker 3: they're the right elbow. You know. So I do some
Speaker 3: things when I'm setting up and in my mind I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, up, it's such an you know, my hip
Speaker 3: and and so what it looks like externally is not
Speaker 3: what it feels like internally. So what my mind, what
Speaker 3: I'm doing is totally different than what people would perceive
Speaker 3: when they watch my body move or what a camera
Speaker 3: would show me and be like, wow, why do I
Speaker 3: do that? You know? So you're stepping in and doing
Speaker 3: these things, and then once once you checklist is that,
Speaker 3: once you've done everything, it's time to hit the ball.
Speaker 3: At that moment, you're thinking about the target, but you're
Speaker 3: looking at the ball.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: So it's like driving down the road. You know where
Speaker 3: the road is that you can look at. You can
Speaker 3: notice a tree to the left, or you're like, oh
Speaker 3: there's a lake, and you look away from the road,
Speaker 3: but you don't the wheel over and run off the road.
Speaker 3: You stay on the road, you know, and keep and
Speaker 3: keep traveling. You just for a second. That's what looking
Speaker 3: at the ball should be. Like, the ball's there, but
Speaker 3: that's not where your mind goes. The fine stays on
Speaker 3: the target. Your eyes come to the ball, notice it
Speaker 3: for a second so you can do your stroke. Other
Speaker 3: people have said this, They said, trace with your eyes,
Speaker 3: you know, from the hole back to the ball, and
Speaker 3: as soon as your eyes get to the ball, it's
Speaker 3: trying to hit your stroke. That's what they mean.
Speaker 1: I think that isn't that Jeff Mangum who says that
Speaker 1: on putting, because I've done that for years. I will
Speaker 1: trace the line from the hole back to my ball,
Speaker 1: and as soon as my eyes get to the ball,
Speaker 1: I'm pulling off the stroke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you got it. And then and then all
Speaker 3: I'm saying is fine and good and do that. And
Speaker 3: that's externally what it may look like. And then target
Speaker 3: owing at golf, Colin has found that you can control
Speaker 3: your brain waves and get in the zone. It's in
Speaker 3: your mind when you're when you're looking at that ball.
Speaker 3: Once your eyes get to that ball, you're thinking about
Speaker 3: your target and you can only think about it if
Speaker 3: you saw it. If you can't think about it, that
Speaker 3: means you didn't see it. And that's when you see
Speaker 3: to our guys back out. You come back out and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, didn't you didn't even see my target?
Speaker 3: What is my target? And you use that use that voice,
Speaker 3: you know that that goes through your head. Just control it.
Speaker 3: Either you control it or it's going to control you
Speaker 3: and use that voice to talk about your targets yourself.
Speaker 3: You say out loud if you want, but if you're
Speaker 3: around people, you just do it internally and inside your
Speaker 3: head and you're like, okay, that's why, justin, I love
Speaker 3: that spot. Set my club down. Okay, it's a club plant. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the clubs plant the spot on my hands where you
Speaker 3: know your hands are good.
Speaker 4: That is good.
Speaker 3: Uh, there's my checklist and the us I left to
Speaker 3: that spot. There's the ball stroke and the ball will
Speaker 3: go and so I left to that spot funnel into
Speaker 3: the hole. And now you got your our outcome. Now
Speaker 3: you just ask do we don't work about this orry outcome?
Speaker 3: If you did everything and you're happy with doing everything,
Speaker 3: you did everything that you can control, and you roll
Speaker 3: it over the inside left. Maybe you misread you couldn't
Speaker 3: just read it. That happens, or maybe it hits something.
Speaker 3: So if the ball doesn't go in the hole, there's
Speaker 3: no point in getting angry and mad and letting it
Speaker 3: affect your next shot or affect your day. Just notice
Speaker 3: that you misread it, and you can say that I
Speaker 3: hit it too hard. Then you know something that I
Speaker 3: need to adjust my target thing. Maybe greens are slower.
Speaker 3: You can't control these things, superintend and then mother greens
Speaker 3: today they're slower. Just notice that if they're slower. You know,
Speaker 3: some people change the you can change the weights before
Speaker 3: the round. But the easiest thing to do is just
Speaker 3: change your target. And now I feel put You pretend
Speaker 3: the hole further up the hill than it than it
Speaker 3: currently is, and then you hit it as if the
Speaker 3: holes behind the actual hole. So the holes behind you
Speaker 3: know there's three feet up the hill, You're gonna hit
Speaker 3: three feet behind it and the ball will just go
Speaker 3: in and you don't you know, you don't have to
Speaker 3: worry about it. And if you show up and the
Speaker 3: greens are faster, you bring your target closer to you.
Speaker 3: So all of a sudden you have a maybe you
Speaker 3: have a ten footer and the greens are faster and
Speaker 3: used to playing on you're playing some quotes you haven't
Speaker 3: played for bring a target closer to you. You know
Speaker 3: in your mind, Yeah, there's a hole that's just supposed
Speaker 3: to you. No, that's it.
Speaker 1: Now, what about untarget oriented golf? And I'm going to
Speaker 1: want to talk about aim point putting too, but on
Speaker 1: target oriented golf, the post shot routine. Where do you
Speaker 1: incorporate target oriented golf in your post shot?
Speaker 3: Well, A lots of people. Oh that's very important.
Speaker 4: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: Think you have to get feet in order to get better,
Speaker 3: you must get feedback. So you've got to watch where
Speaker 3: the ball went, all right, You've got to know where
Speaker 3: the ball goes in relation to your target. And then
Speaker 3: it helps me to think about the sensations I had
Speaker 3: when I was swinging okay, and then the out that
Speaker 3: I get the desire outcome. No, you got some outcome.
Speaker 3: It may not be the desired outcome, but those sensations
Speaker 3: led to that result. You accept that result, get back,
Speaker 3: and then go get your next shot. And that's what's
Speaker 3: great about the range. But you can use the range
Speaker 3: just to stand projectiles down this field, or you can
Speaker 3: go to the range and work on your desire outcome
Speaker 3: and think about the target and and and feel and
Speaker 3: golf really is just feeling an imagination.
Speaker 1: Now let's move over to aim point. All right, how
Speaker 1: how did you get started with that?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 5: What is it about it that you like and how
Speaker 5: has it made you?
Speaker 1: Or you're the person you're caddy and carrying for, you're
Speaker 1: looping for uh, how does it make them better?
Speaker 3: Well? Really, am point Mark twen is doing a good
Speaker 3: job just having a systematic way. It's just physics, you know,
Speaker 3: of the ball rolling friction and that generates break. So
Speaker 3: side hill and then he has a chart you know
Speaker 3: that he's developed and he can just look at the numbers.
Speaker 3: And the gist of it is is downhill is a tightrope.
Speaker 3: So downhill is speed sensitives and aim sensitive. So I
Speaker 3: can it to a tightrope or you have this fine line,
Speaker 3: if you hit it a little bit too hard, it
Speaker 3: might not go in.
Speaker 4: You hear a little bit too easy, it's not gonna
Speaker 4: go in.
Speaker 3: An uphill is the funnel, you have wider margin for error, right,
Speaker 3: And basically that's what I'm going, you know, to work
Speaker 3: on a little bit today is just you know, the expressory.
Speaker 3: But basically I JD likes my opinion. When we're reading
Speaker 3: greens group, we read greens together, so we've got to
Speaker 3: have some sort of way to communicate and we use
Speaker 3: you know, I'm using target oriented golf to communicate the
Speaker 3: line I'm seeing. But basically we just you know, as
Speaker 3: greens get faster, you play more break downhill fall, it
Speaker 3: takes longer for the ball to get to the hole
Speaker 3: because you don't put as much energy into if you
Speaker 3: put the same amount of energy into if the ball
Speaker 3: will you know, roll straight over the hole and just
Speaker 3: keep going off the green. So you already know that
Speaker 3: that's not what we're gonna do, So you just keep
Speaker 3: bringing it back and basically you're trying to get the
Speaker 3: ball to roll about eight inches past all that's just
Speaker 3: the speed that makes the hole the biggest. The more
Speaker 3: you can get, we said earlier for amateur golfers, the
Speaker 3: more you can have those up to shots from left
Speaker 3: or right in the hole. I mean, see you're just
Speaker 3: pouring pouring the ball into the hole. You know it's
Speaker 3: just going to go in all day. You have wider margin,
Speaker 3: prayer ship shots, I can you know, I can take
Speaker 3: a green and drop balls around and say, you know,
Speaker 3: statistically you're going to miss. This is going to be
Speaker 3: very difficult to speed into this and line. Now there's
Speaker 3: you know, studies that show that downhill putt you are
Speaker 3: more likely to make, but that's skewed because you're more
Speaker 3: likely to get a downhill putt to the hole. So
Speaker 3: if it never gets there, it never goes there. Well,
Speaker 3: that's true, But you want to pack in all day
Speaker 3: or do you want to grinding out six footers? You know, saying.
Speaker 5: Tap in, please.
Speaker 3: Die, just die down to the hole, play more bike.
Speaker 3: So that's and just communicating, communicating there and just working
Speaker 3: with the sea.
Speaker 1: So do you are you one of those guys that
Speaker 1: when you're looking looking at your putts you're thinking, okay, uh,
Speaker 1: you know one ball outside the cup or are you
Speaker 1: looking at the line that it's going to take and
Speaker 1: you're looking at on the break, You're looking at where
Speaker 1: the apex of that break is and you're trying to
Speaker 1: follow that line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird for me. And you know, so I
Speaker 3: always since I've been point off, I start to see
Speaker 3: this like dark green. It's like darker green looks like
Speaker 3: a shadow almost hardest my imagination does. So to me,
Speaker 3: it's there, I see this line that goes through the
Speaker 3: hole and it beings and it's darker green usually darker
Speaker 3: in shade, and it's the width of the whole. It
Speaker 3: comes all the way back to the ball for me,
Speaker 3: and then just incorporating, you know, aain point shows me
Speaker 3: how you know, if I walk in and it's four
Speaker 3: percent slope, and I can feel that in my feet
Speaker 3: by where my singer gravity goes when I step in.
Speaker 3: I went agreeing with my free a lot on towards
Speaker 3: help j you know, JB. And we have books on
Speaker 3: tour that have the amount of slope and everything. So
Speaker 3: anything around two percent is pretty flat when you start
Speaker 3: getting two and a half thirty percent to fill that
Speaker 3: in your feet. And so if I walk in and
Speaker 3: I'm like you, I look at the book and it's
Speaker 3: like four percent, and then we're on a nine every
Speaker 3: angle to the whole. So we're hole high basically, which
Speaker 3: everybody wants to be whole high. You never actually want
Speaker 3: to be a hole.
Speaker 4: High below the whole way.
Speaker 3: Better, now that this stuck's going to break, you know
Speaker 3: as much on his chart, Just know that it's going
Speaker 3: to break as much as the hand. Whether the seed
Speaker 3: is eleven, you know, fourteen or eight, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It's gonna break a lot. So you just need to
Speaker 3: look a little higher. So now I'm seeing I'm kind
Speaker 3: of I'm using looking backwards four percent or on the
Speaker 3: ninth it's going to probably come in from somewhere to
Speaker 3: the top of the hole now I'm in my line
Speaker 3: out that way. Does that make sense? So I see
Speaker 3: a dark shadow, and then there might be something on
Speaker 3: my little shadow target wise, there's that ball mark again,
Speaker 3: or there's a piece of sand or something that my
Speaker 3: ball maybe not roll over, but I'm going to start
Speaker 3: at that line and it becomes a straight putt's setting
Speaker 3: up and I'm gonna put it straight up at that target.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Yes? It does, Yes it does.
Speaker 3: So I incorporated maybe everything because every I really feel
Speaker 3: like everybody's describing, you know, the same thing. But he's
Speaker 3: everything I've learned to kind of guide mine. I play
Speaker 3: so much golf, I just start seeing these dark lines
Speaker 3: and now I'm using your knowledge I'm currently learning to
Speaker 3: help me adjust that line. But really it all started
Speaker 3: with even before it's called target warning and golf. I
Speaker 3: mean that's how kids are doing that. They're already doing
Speaker 3: it children when they play right.
Speaker 5: How much golf do you get to play?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ever plays very much this year. But it's weird
Speaker 3: because I'm getting I'm playing the last golf and just
Speaker 3: from learning target orient and golf, I mean really feel
Speaker 3: like I'm getting better and better without playing golf. But
Speaker 3: that's a new experience for me. I used to feel
Speaker 3: like I had the balls for two weeks before I
Speaker 3: just get back to where I was. I never felt
Speaker 3: like I was getting any better. Now I feel like
Speaker 3: I don't catch a club for weeks and come home.
Speaker 3: I mean, I am enjoying it more. My wife has
Speaker 3: started playing, and I'm I'm just talking. What we talk
Speaker 3: about was target orient golf. She is playing better. She's
Speaker 3: broken fifty and she's doing She's probably only played twenty times.
Speaker 5: She's broken white, so that's remarkable.
Speaker 3: She broke fifty. I'm nine holes. Wow. Okay, yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean from the ladies team, you know, but I mean.
Speaker 1: We'll call those the fronties. Let's not be said, because
Speaker 1: I know guys that should be playing the front ties,
Speaker 1: but they're like, now they're the ladies.
Speaker 5: He is, shut up.
Speaker 1: You still can't shoot part?
Speaker 5: Just play there?
Speaker 3: Yes? Well, and again shots are coming someone within a
Speaker 3: hunter yard anyway, right, So does it's irrelevant. It's basically like,
Speaker 3: do you want to hit a seven iron into the
Speaker 3: screen or a four iron or or maybe maybe you
Speaker 3: know back in maybe it's a wood. So if you
Speaker 3: have a wood, you like it, you might as well
Speaker 3: play about TV your driver.
Speaker 1: Right, nobody nobody wants to hit a Nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hit a four iron to the green. That's that's painful.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Is there a a like a secret society of caddies
Speaker 1: that you guys have this little club going on, or
Speaker 1: because your buddies with JB, you guys just hang together
Speaker 1: the whole time and keep to yours Or are there
Speaker 1: things that you know that you do with other caddies.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'm not you know, I hang out with,
Speaker 3: you know, other caddies, just depending on who is going
Speaker 3: to be at each event. Some guys. You know, there's
Speaker 3: points in the year where I'm maybe going to a
Speaker 3: gym each week and working out, So there's caddies that
Speaker 3: maybe I'll see at the gym. But pretty much I
Speaker 3: hang out alone or with JB. Some with Patrick Sherry
Speaker 3: who caddies for Forrey Madison. We've stayed together sometimes, but
Speaker 3: mostly I'm I'm by myself with JB or sometimes my
Speaker 3: wife and a boy girl.
Speaker 1: M Now your boys getting old though, He's gonna start
Speaker 1: going to school. That's gonna make it tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been. Yeah, he's been going to school. So
Speaker 3: through the year, you know, we just we do the
Speaker 3: best we can with what obstacles come up. So golf
Speaker 3: helps us understand that too.
Speaker 1: So but okay, so now during a round or during
Speaker 1: a weekend, when you guys are playing and you're paired
Speaker 1: up with the same guy for a couple of days. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what goes on between the caddies?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: Are you guys communicating? You you have little side bets. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word bets, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, because you probably can't. But you got little
Speaker 1: games going on that you played between yourselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I've never I've never had any side bets
Speaker 3: or anything like that going on. We've not played, you know,
Speaker 3: any any short of games. I mean, we just we
Speaker 3: might talk, you know, and uh, there might be a
Speaker 3: couple of minutes, Uh we'll I'll be sitting on a
Speaker 3: te waiting and somebody will tell this a story or
Speaker 3: something else.
Speaker 4: So that's that's been fun.
Speaker 3: But mostly it's just, uh, you know, you're you get
Speaker 3: in the moment and you're just you're working on you're
Speaker 3: doing you do everything the exact same to help you
Speaker 3: get into that zone. So we're just in there trying
Speaker 3: to get in the zone, you know, and so just
Speaker 3: as you know, it's if we can help each other
Speaker 3: rate bunkers if somebody's coming into some trouble or something,
Speaker 3: you know, and and kind of help in that regard
Speaker 3: getting the pan, wiping each other, the players ball off
Speaker 3: on the green, you know, if they just come out
Speaker 3: of the bunker and things like that. But now not
Speaker 3: a real you know, secret society or anything like that.
Speaker 3: We mostly there's so much money involved.
Speaker 4: You know, these days, we don't even travel together.
Speaker 3: I heard and you know, in years past, lots of
Speaker 3: caddies traveled together and drove together, but you know, anymore,
Speaker 3: it's just, uh, the game has changed so much. So
Speaker 3: much money is involved, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so you're you're competing. You're competing too, I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the sense really the name of our game
Speaker 3: is how good can you get your player to play? Really,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, that's just it.
Speaker 5: So you're a coach without a coach here, that's what
Speaker 5: you are.
Speaker 3: You know, you're basically a coach. Someday he's a player
Speaker 3: needs something, you know, maybe a little bit different, they
Speaker 3: need it phrased a little bit different way, or they
Speaker 3: need more motivation. Some days they need less motivation, you know,
Speaker 3: some days just it's just reading your guy, I mean,
Speaker 3: which is great for me. I mean, Jabi and I
Speaker 3: grew up together. I mean, we really know each other
Speaker 3: and we just try to really use that to our advantage.
Speaker 5: You know, so interesting.
Speaker 1: Are there things that you do that would help us?
Speaker 1: Like the first thing that comes to mind is like
Speaker 1: I've I've never been a big fan of tossing a
Speaker 1: couple blades of grass in the air to tell me
Speaker 1: what's going on with the wind. A I have trouble
Speaker 1: finding where the grass went when it does. But it
Speaker 1: also I find that tossing grass, Okay, thet the wind
Speaker 1: is blowing in that direction, but it's not telling me
Speaker 1: is the wind swirling? Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it going you know, hard.
Speaker 1: Left to right?
Speaker 3: Is it? You know?
Speaker 1: Are there other things that you have found that work
Speaker 1: for you or you've seen other caddies do that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's that's what I
Speaker 3: do every day. I just checked the forecast of the wind.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of different sides, you know, I might
Speaker 3: use the Weather Channel on it, and so it says,
Speaker 3: you know, south southeast, you know, and then there's another
Speaker 3: app I use. You're not allowed to use it during
Speaker 3: tournament play, but it's just that you know, the beginning
Speaker 3: of the day, primost wind gives you a wind direction
Speaker 3: and gives you the exact direction, like two hundred and
Speaker 3: forty degrees, you know, so if you want, like I'm
Speaker 3: a caddy, I'll use a compass. Most people aren't going
Speaker 3: to use a compass, so you just know it's south
Speaker 3: southwest and you figure out which way south southwest is.
Speaker 3: And when I'm playing at home now, just from being
Speaker 3: a caddy in my experiences, I know that in general
Speaker 3: the wind comes from south southwest. When I'm at home
Speaker 3: playing in Campbellsville, you know, it shifts in the morning
Speaker 3: it's in, so it's like an opposite direction. And then
Speaker 3: at about two o'clock at south southwest. So it's fun
Speaker 3: for me because I can hear it really far down
Speaker 3: wind on a few of these far formoles, so I like,
Speaker 3: you know, I just like those holes, so I like
Speaker 3: to play it about that time so I can catch win.
Speaker 3: It's like being a surfer. I talked to some tudle
Speaker 3: surf I've talked to surfers and they do the same
Speaker 3: thing with catching waves. I'm just doing it with wind
Speaker 3: and and what is the app again? Primos p r
Speaker 3: I ms primost wind.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, well we'll remember to put that in the
Speaker 1: show notes.
Speaker 3: And do you.
Speaker 5: Hmm?
Speaker 1: So uh, you said you use a compass? Is that?
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to have one on the course.
Speaker 3: During We're allowed to change that, We're allowed. I check.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, so I keep checking and asking
Speaker 3: you to get hired, me asking, But yeah, we're allowed
Speaker 3: to use a compass during a round. Seeing some caddies,
Speaker 3: you know at Bay Hill there was a guy who's
Speaker 3: the compass, so you know I use a compass, just
Speaker 3: uh in general south southwest. And then if you feel
Speaker 3: a swirl when you're playing, so you're throwing a grass,
Speaker 3: you're seeing these swirls, so you throw it the rest
Speaker 3: one time and it's blowing it to the left, and
Speaker 3: you throw it up again, it's blowing it to the right.
Speaker 3: But if you know it's generally supposed to be down.
Speaker 3: Unless you look at the tree tops and every thing
Speaker 3: is moving where the trees are the same direction, you
Speaker 3: can just tell a lot about the tree tops and
Speaker 3: just notice and then noticing how much of the tree
Speaker 3: is moving. If it's just believe you got a lot
Speaker 3: of win to worry about, and you can strike a
Speaker 3: golf ball well when is not really going to affect
Speaker 3: it anyway. But if you're seeing you know, the branches
Speaker 3: closer to the trunk start to move, you know, you're
Speaker 3: talking about some major wind. So you might want to
Speaker 3: play and you're trying to get to that spot you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's shipping or putting or whatever there below the
Speaker 3: hole in that funnel.
Speaker 4: That's what you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: And is the flag helpful at all?
Speaker 3: I mean you can't. I just think if you're looking
Speaker 3: at the tree tops because unless you're gonna hit your
Speaker 3: golf ball, flag high all the way there, right like
Speaker 3: if you're looking up if you have trees around, But
Speaker 3: if you don't have any trees around, then yeah, you
Speaker 3: can look at the flag and you see it one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards or two in yards away if
Speaker 3: it's blowing straight down and where you're standing it feels
Speaker 3: like it's blowing straight in. You know, in general, I
Speaker 3: would play with the flags doing because that's where the
Speaker 3: ball is losing speed. It comes off the face as
Speaker 3: all the speed so the wind's not really affecting it
Speaker 3: where you're standing anyway. It's when the ball loses speed
Speaker 3: that the wind starts to move it around.
Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed if anybody in the gallery is
Speaker 1: maybe smoking and you can see what the smoke is doing,
Speaker 1: is it's coming off their cigarette.
Speaker 4: Or the Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at all all all of that smoking
Speaker 3: at the clubhouse or by the clubhouse, and you know
Speaker 3: that maybe they have a chimney with their cooking, and
Speaker 3: watching that smoke and watching the American flags, you know,
Speaker 3: the stadium, the stadium feet sometimes have flags. I'm looking
Speaker 3: at all of those, you know, comparing feeling what it
Speaker 3: feels like to me it's hitting me in the face,
Speaker 3: or coming off the right, checking checking, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: just the wind. Dire actually have a compass drawn in
Speaker 3: our book, so that's an easy way. It'll actually have
Speaker 3: to pull out a compass. Unles. I want the exact
Speaker 3: between employe degrees if I want to say it's helping
Speaker 3: off the right. But in general, you can look at
Speaker 3: the compass that I have drawn in the most people
Speaker 3: don't even know which way the golf course has turned.
Speaker 3: So just getting familiar with that would help people a lot. Sure,
Speaker 3: you know, because I mean it sounds like you're mainly
Speaker 3: talking You're not talking about people that play different places
Speaker 3: all the time, but just going out to normal club, Like, hey,
Speaker 3: do you know that you know has just win? Is
Speaker 3: this hole? Generally when you plays it down down went
Speaker 3: off the right, you know, or you know lots of
Speaker 3: different things. You know, playing before a storm is that
Speaker 3: you know, if there's a storm coming in your golf,
Speaker 3: one's going to go really far, you know, like I've been,
Speaker 3: you're playing just up until they blow the horn or
Speaker 3: there's lightning, or you don't know if the storm is
Speaker 3: going to hit or miss. You know, but the temperature
Speaker 3: drops and he's been playing before and that happened, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: Well the golf all goes further. So normally you hit
Speaker 3: a seven iron, you know, from maybe one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty yards or you know, I don't know how far
Speaker 3: you hit a seven iron. You might want to bump
Speaker 3: it down to an eight, you know, especially if the
Speaker 3: players to be short. That's the first question. You want
Speaker 3: to be long and short here, they want to be
Speaker 3: long and short, and then you can make an assessment
Speaker 3: from there. If there's a storm coming in, your hate
Speaker 3: iron is going to go pretty far because the baron
Speaker 3: had pressure tends to drop, you know.
Speaker 1: M so, but yeah, well you so, like you and
Speaker 1: JB grew up in the South, so you're very used
Speaker 1: to humid weather. I would think, So, do you maybe
Speaker 1: perhaps carry some talcum or some baby powder in your
Speaker 1: bag so that you can keep your hands a little
Speaker 1: drier and then when you clap your hands and to
Speaker 1: get the powder off, you'll see a little puff of
Speaker 1: that blowing around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's smart.
Speaker 3: We don't but yeah, you know exactly.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you kept some talcolm powder in your
Speaker 1: bag to do that to dry off his hands, if
Speaker 1: somebody would like not, that's illegal, you can't use it.
Speaker 5: It's like, what about drying my hands?
Speaker 1: Dude, leave me alone?
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, we would, Yeah, we would check everything
Speaker 3: if we make any changes to our you're basically just
Speaker 3: talking about a change in routine. The right thing that
Speaker 3: we're gonna shire. We're going to make sure that you know,
Speaker 3: we're checking the rules community at the beginning, and we
Speaker 3: need to make sure that that's okay. Us a rain
Speaker 3: grip for the reason that black strip that he uses,
Speaker 3: you know, basically it's because of the humidity and everything.
Speaker 3: You just you go through those leather grips as fast. Uh,
Speaker 3: this material that they make the rain grips out of,
Speaker 3: which is smart and you don't have to change grips
Speaker 3: throughout the day. Gloves.
Speaker 1: How many gloves and how many gloves in a h
Speaker 1: in a weekend?
Speaker 5: Will he go through.
Speaker 3: One to day really like he's one to day just
Speaker 3: a new glove each day. Yeah hmm.
Speaker 5: And let's see, we'll listen.
Speaker 1: We know, next time you play, I want I want
Speaker 1: you to. I want you to really if you like
Speaker 1: this idea, I want you to consider having some talking
Speaker 1: with you and if he and if he uses it,
Speaker 1: when when he slaps his hand and look over to
Speaker 1: a camera and wink, and then you will know, we'll
Speaker 1: know that it was from us.
Speaker 3: Well, and then some of the other thing. Now we're
Speaker 3: you know, differentage. Everybody has some sort of technology, whether
Speaker 3: it's on their watch or a range bonder, you know
Speaker 3: for a GPS, whatever it is they use. Just start
Speaker 3: some sort of how far your golf ball actually goes.
Speaker 3: That'll help people out so much because if you ask somebody, well,
Speaker 3: how far is your seven iron? How far are you
Speaker 3: that you're seven iron. They'll say a general number like
Speaker 3: you know, one fifty five whatever, one fifty some people
Speaker 3: one a whatever. Well, when you start playing, and when
Speaker 3: you do that, the fetes fast hold you a driver
Speaker 3: there a five iron, I had two in the yards,
Speaker 3: I had a five iron. I had two hundred two
Speaker 3: the pen, and I have a ball mark next to
Speaker 3: the whole. It flew two hundred yards, but it probably didn't.
Speaker 3: It's more like one ninety. And I was trying to
Speaker 3: be short, so just trying to notice and then write
Speaker 3: that down like five iron one ninety. That's that's the
Speaker 3: biggest difference that tour guys have that well, they have
Speaker 3: a caddy. So that's that's one of the things I do,
Speaker 3: right down how far he hits every shot, how far
Speaker 3: the ball flew in the air, So even in the
Speaker 3: fair way, if I can find a ball mark where
Speaker 3: his driver landed. And we had three twenty five to
Speaker 3: cover a bunker and then covered about ten steps, I
Speaker 3: knew that ball flew three thirty five. All right, drivers
Speaker 3: very top, you know, and then we know if it's
Speaker 3: running out how far hot did it run out? Twenty yards?
Speaker 3: They run out thirty yards, Like, what is the ball
Speaker 3: generally doing the name of the game is moving your
Speaker 3: golf ball around this course. So knowing how far you
Speaker 3: hit it is very important and people don't yep.
Speaker 1: Very important, very important. Yeah, there's a there's a product
Speaker 1: out now. There's a product out now called game Golf
Speaker 1: that I know that Have you seen it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I saw it. I just couldn't understand why you
Speaker 3: wouldn't just write it down.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you. It's interesting because I know that
Speaker 1: Lee Westwood, Graham McDowell, and now Jim Furika are using it.
Speaker 1: I actually played golf with the CEO of the company
Speaker 1: last week and I did a video that's going to
Speaker 1: be coming up and an episode's going to be coming
Speaker 1: up with him soon. It for me writing down I
Speaker 1: don't have the wherewithal to write down every shot and
Speaker 1: what how or it went and what it did. But
Speaker 1: when I take when I use this thing and I
Speaker 1: take it off at the end of the round and
Speaker 1: I plug it into my computer, it gives me all
Speaker 1: that information and it gives me statistics. It's really helped
Speaker 1: my game and what it where it's helped my game
Speaker 1: more is showing me where my holes are. In my
Speaker 1: game and what I should be working on. I think
Speaker 1: I think it's a great product.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk more about that soon in the upcoming episodes.
Speaker 1: Hey Brandon, this has been a long time. I know
Speaker 1: you've got to get back on the road because you've
Speaker 1: got things to do. I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm George talking so anytime.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and best of luck to you
Speaker 1: and JB. Safe travels. Of course, have a great time
Speaker 1: at the Open Championship, and I would love to catch
Speaker 1: up with you maybe after the season, maybe we can
Speaker 1: try to get together again and and and hear how
Speaker 1: things went for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much. I was a part of talking.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on your joff