WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.599 Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty four, originally published 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:06.480 on July eighth, twenty fourteen. 3 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:11.759 Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 4 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:15.400 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:21.440 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 6 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:26.320 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:29.960 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.039 You start trying to take a picture when you make 9 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.119 your golf cleen what that part it is? And when 10 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.039 you can't do it, it's because it won't happen. You 11 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:38.719 had early palm wine. You're cringing the club that happened, 12 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:39.960 And then you want to why I don't make your 13 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:42.359 golf One for a kind of gotigator talking about will 14 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.079 president not be the redult orient and we're talking about 15 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.359 doing at a golf what called OFWF What it is? You're 16 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:49.399 outside with friend or people you like to at least 17 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.159 be around. You're at a park. Basically, you've got land 18 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.399 set aside that is free of course, about a beautiful bird, 19 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:59.119 water ducks, all the beautiful bad and you got. 20 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.079 This picture app years that you can look at. 21 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:03.399 And I'm saying you just start looking at them, because 22 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:05.439 everybody looks down at the grown into the white ball, 23 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:07.760 and then that's the frustraction. I'm saying. You look up 24 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:09.760 and find the party and set that in your mind 25 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.239 and then enjoying the times and then you start feeling 26 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:14.280 like having a good time on the golf course, and 27 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:16.680 then you can say I'm a good golfer and your 28 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:19.359 score nor reflected. But it won't be in the score. 29 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.120 That won't be while you know you're parent, you know 30 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.239 you're good, and you enjoy the time. Spin out there 31 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:24.000 which your friend. 32 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:33.840 PGA Tour caddy for JB. Holmes, Brandon Parsons. This is 33 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.879 Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. 34 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:40.000 Brandon, Hey, how are you doing. 35 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:41.200 I'm doing well. 36 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:42.000 Where are you. 37 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:47.519 Right now? I am between Campbellsville and Bowling Greens and 38 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:52.359 Punty and it's just going down to talk a little 39 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.159 bit about a target, owning your golf and a point 40 00:01:55.239 --> 00:02:01.680 golf and a way to communicate and nation to the player. 41 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.959 Right now. You know, I caddy, So my brother intent 42 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.519 parking and instructor at Oldstone and I'm heading out the 43 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.439 Oldstone Country Club and goinger into. 44 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.479 Customs and how much of your life has spent on 45 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:13.960 the road. 46 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:21.120 A great amount. I travel just with word about thirty 47 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:23.680 weeks plus the Ninus a few weeks, about thirty weeks 48 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:27.800 with the tour events, and then while I'm home sometimes 49 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.199 I scheduled some time like today to try to, you know, 50 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.439 just advance my learning in regards to golf. So I'm 51 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.879 using I've got a few days here before the British Open, 52 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:39.919 and I'm just using this time to try to to 53 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:46.319 brush up on some things, just green oriented, just just 54 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.080 reading green, trying to get a few more puts to 55 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:49.400 fall in. 56 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.039 Okay, well, we'll definitely talk about aime point putting. And 57 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:58.080 because Colin Cromac was on the on the show just 58 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:01.159 a few weeks ago talking about tour target oriented golf, 59 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.439 that's how you and I got together. So I'm going 60 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.039 to want to focus and talk a lot about target 61 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.400 oriented golf from your perspective. But if you don't mind 62 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:13.400 me asking, I'm just fascinated you were You've been on 63 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:19.319 the tour this year with JB Holmes and caddying catting 64 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.800 for him. Is this your first year caddying for JB? 65 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.879 Now? I started cattying in two thousand and eight, so 66 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.560 I had caddy for JB. And just like we grew 67 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.879 up playing golf together and sometimes we would take turns 68 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.039 catting for each other. So we very much know each 69 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:37.960 other's games. And he had me come out just to 70 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.759 a couple of random tour events. I think it was 71 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.800 a fun I in Florida when he was on tour 72 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.599 and like oh six and I started full time. 73 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.199 In eight and we really enjoyed it. I had quite 74 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:51.840 a bit of success. 75 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.199 I took some time to play in two thousand, late 76 00:03:56.280 --> 00:04:00.319 twenty twelve, first part twenty thirteen, and then he asked 77 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.680 me to come back. So it's happy to come back 78 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.159 get back to work with him. We've had a great 79 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:07.479 year to about fourteen. I think he's made just over 80 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:08.719 two million dollars. 81 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.879 So yeah, the last time I checked, it looked like 82 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.319 it was just over two million dollars. And you still 83 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.800 have quite a way to go in the season. 84 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.560 Yeah, we still have quite a season left, so we're 85 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:25.920 just trying to cone in on little ways to get better. 86 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.000 Some things we can do. Even at this level, it's. 87 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:30.720 Great to always feel like you can get a little 88 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.839 bit better. And I think that's what draws us to golf, 89 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.839 you know. I mean, even if you go out and 90 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.399 shoot eighteen under, there was still you're like, man, that 91 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.759 one left on the edge. Maybe it was for a 92 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:42.639 hole in one, but that's that's crazy. That's what the 93 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:43.199 mind does. 94 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:45.079 You know, you never seem to be happy. 95 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.120 Feel like you can strive for just to get a 96 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:50.480 little better, and perfection never happens. 97 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:51.720 It's amazing. 98 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.040 Yeah, I've never met let me take that back. I've 99 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.120 met one golfer in my life that said he was 100 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.959 a good golfer. I've never met anybody say are you 101 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:06.319 a golfer? Like I'm okay, you know, but you know, 102 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:09.680 at my barber, he's like, oh yeah, I'm good, I'm 103 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:10.319 a good golfer. 104 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:10.600 Yeah. 105 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.680 Like really, I've never heard anybody say that before. It's 106 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:15.480 really amazing. 107 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.279 But like you see, and then you want to you 108 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.240 want to go play with your barber and see what 109 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:20.920 he thinks is good, you know what I mean? 110 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:23.560 Because a different level, I have. 111 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.920 No interest in playing with this guy because I don't 112 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.519 want him to start giving me lessons on the course. 113 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.639 I just have a feeling he's going to start telling 114 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.160 me what I'm doing wrong, and I have no interest 115 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:38.600 in that whatsoever. I understand, But but it's like, you know, 116 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.279 you you you go out and play with somebody and 117 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.519 they say, so, are you a good golfer? I'm like, yeah, 118 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:46.680 you know, I'm okay, I'm shooting in the you know, 119 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.160 the mid eighties right now, Like wow, you're really good, 120 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.720 and it's like, you know, but then if you you know, 121 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:56.480 from his perspective, I always kind of see shooting in 122 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.720 the eighties is kind of like turning sixty, you know. Uh, 123 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:04.680 it's when you're sixty year old to young people and 124 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:06.160 you're young to old people. 125 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:11.319 Right. Yeah, well I'm starting to know again. I mean, 126 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.560 if you want to get away from score, I'm just 127 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.519 starting to notice that. I would call anyone that can 128 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:20.399 be on the golf course and hitting shots and playing 129 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.759 and keeping score if it looks like they're enjoying it, 130 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:26.680 so you see them smiling, I would call them a 131 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:29.639 good golfer. Somehow they've managed to hear you're keeping score 132 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:31.720 and obviously you're not going to hit a perfect shot 133 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.680 every time, so you deal with the frustration in a 134 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:37.079 happy way. So anybody that can do that, in my mind, 135 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:39.160 i'm you know, I'm starting to because that's the guys 136 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.720 you know at programs and even on the tour where 137 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:44.639 it just looks like they're not enjoying it like while 138 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.319 you know, like while the understanding of that this is 139 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:47.680 a game. 140 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:52.439 So I love that, I think along with h Yeah, 141 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:53.000 if he's. 142 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:55.240 Present and just seeing the golf course and that gets 143 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.120 us back again to the targeting or the golf. 144 00:06:57.360 --> 00:06:58.399 Yeah, no, I like that. 145 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:00.879 It's like if you think you're if you're having fun, 146 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:01.920 then you're a good golfer. 147 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:04.879 Why not my little. 148 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.680 Boy, I don't know. He's five and we go out 149 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:09.279 and he sees everything you know out there in the 150 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:09.720 golf work. 151 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:11.079 He has a black Yeah. 152 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.480 I mean he shoots one hundred and fifty if you 153 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.079 ask him, So he's a good golfer. 154 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.240 Oh, I didn't realize. You've got you've got a five 155 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.319 year old and you're on the road thirty weeks a year. 156 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:25.160 That's got to be tough. 157 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.920 Yeah, that cannot with me. Just when we can make 158 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:29.360 it happen. 159 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:34.439 But my wife is very supportive and it's been it's 160 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:36.319 been a really good ride. 161 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:36.560 You know. 162 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:41.120 Yeah, Well, when when the guy you're working for is 163 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.079 generating over two million dollars, you know, part the way 164 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.800 through the season. Yeah, I think you should be supportive. 165 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.519 I think she realized you're having. 166 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.480 Fun, but she realizes. 167 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.680 You know, I'm lucky enough that I really love golf. 168 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.759 I love gathering more information and learning, and that's what, 169 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.079 you know, Golf is my motivation. You get to do that, 170 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:04.000 and you know I take walks every day. We're out 171 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:05.800 on the course for four four and a half hours 172 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.439 with with my best buddy. You know, so it's. 173 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.240 It's it's well, your best buddy. 174 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.399 This year, yeah, this year, his winnings. You know, we 175 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:19.160 we've we've talked about enough. But he's had some tough 176 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:21.319 years the last couple of years too. He wasn't even 177 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.720 did he not even get to compete for a while. 178 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.160 He had some tough time. 179 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:29.439 Yeah, Yeah, he had he had some surgery just the 180 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.200 ki mountformation, so he had some skull removed which was 181 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:35.399 very scary. Oh and then uh, he had a rollerblading 182 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.879 accident and broken ankle and then he's had some surgery 183 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.240 on his elbow and it's amazing. But again he used 184 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.440 it as a motivation just to say, Okay, I'm gonna 185 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:46.080 work out. I'm going to overcome all these things, and 186 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:47.840 he's kind of out and want to get on tour. 187 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:49.240 And I'm you know, I'm very proud of him. 188 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.559 I would think, well, being an old friend of his, 189 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.399 have you guys grew up playing together and competing against 190 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:59.960 one another. I got to imagine, and as as a cat, 191 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.080 I've got to imagine there's been a lot of pep 192 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.440 talks that come from you to get him back on track. 193 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:12.519 Yeah, just you know more, it's just like, you know, 194 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.120 you just wanted to hang in there because golf, like 195 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.080 we just talked about, and very frustrating. So we're just 196 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.159 trying to get back to the enjoyment and while we 197 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:23.120 love golf and just every day, you know, just try 198 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:26.480 to see the golf course and just noticing just little things. 199 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.120 You know, you can play golf for a long time 200 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:32.679 and never noticed that there are any birds chirping on 201 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.759 the golf course today, You've not heard any for four years, 202 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:38.759 and maybe you start hearing those, you know, you're on 203 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:40.039 the right tranck if that may soon. 204 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:45.000 Yeah, I've had a new discovery just recently. Two of 205 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.559 the golf courses that I play in the county I 206 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:49.960 live in are dog friendly. Golf courses. 207 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:51.440 That's cool. 208 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:54.440 And so I have I have a little dog. I 209 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:59.200 mean she's only about seventeen pounds, but she has been 210 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.480 out with me four times now, and I'm like, look, 211 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:03.879 if I'm gonna have to take my dog for a 212 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:06.159 walk and I walk the golf course, why don't I 213 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:09.879 just bring the dog. And she's been awesome. And the 214 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.320 friends that I play with like when I bring her out, 215 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:15.840 They're like, really, you're bringing your dog. And by the 216 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.759 end of the round they were so happy that she 217 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:23.000 was there because she's got this calming thing about her. 218 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:23.240 You know. 219 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.440 It's like when you're feeling frustrated stuff, you go over 220 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:27.639 and you snuggle and pet with the dog and you 221 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:28.320 feel great. 222 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.080 Yeah, dog doesn't Your dog doesn't care if you know, 223 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:33.919 if he cop a shot or hit it in the woods, 224 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.200 or if you burnied a hole you never made burnie 225 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.559 on before, hit your longest drive. I mean, she's enjoying 226 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.360 being It's like a park to dog, you know. So 227 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:44.879 she's enjoying that experience from that point of view, which 228 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:46.639 is what we should be doing. You know. I think 229 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:49.759 we forget some time to get attached to the results 230 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:50.240 and everything. 231 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.240 Yeah, well, I think that's maybe an episode will be Yeah, 232 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:55.360 we'll be That's an episode we're going to be doing soon. 233 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:57.600 Is how what your dog could teach you on the 234 00:10:57.639 --> 00:10:58.320 golf course. 235 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:01.200 That's very good, very good. 236 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:04.279 But if you ever get the chance to take a 237 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:05.960 dog out with it, you got to give it a try. 238 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:11.120 It's really a lot of oh you have yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 239 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:11.480 I love. 240 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:13.399 I had a black lab growing up, and we took 241 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.000 him to the golf course some and their experiences just 242 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:21.320 really opened your eyes, you know differently, you really do. 243 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:24.279 But I live next to a golf course and on 244 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:31.240 July fourth Holiday, just recently, somebody who lives on my 245 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.559 block had company over and brought their dog with them, 246 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.159 and the dog jumped over the fence onto the golf 247 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.919 course and the dog and these guys are looking around like, 248 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.039 who's that? Wait a minute, what is this dog doing here? 249 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:45.360 You can see these golfers were so frustrated, and the 250 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.919 dog was one of those hurting shepherds and was having 251 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.039 so much fun. But every time a guy would take 252 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.399 a shot, the dog would run down the fairway, pick 253 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:59.200 up the ball and bring it back. You could imagine 254 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.240 what this, yeah, you can imagine these these country club 255 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.080 guys who just play the same course over and over 256 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.120 again and play the same shot, and play the same 257 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:10.120 club at the same tea box and hit it in 258 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.519 the same bunker every time, and they never changed their 259 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.720 game with something like that really rattled their cage. 260 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.240 It was very funny to watch exactly. 261 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:24.399 It's two opposite energies flipping. You know. Dogger is just 262 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.720 all all blah. And you got people that you know, like, 263 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:33.440 like you just said, play the same game. They play 264 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:36.840 the same course, and it's like they've never thought, well, 265 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.559 you know, is it good? I always I'm always long 266 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:44.399 as this screen and it's terrible back there. It's all downhill, 267 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:46.720 or you know, I never I don't like that ship. 268 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.600 I wonder why they don't just hit a different club 269 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:51.399 to a different spot and or go look and see 270 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:52.200 where the good spot is. 271 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:02.639 Recently, Dave Stock and we had a really great conversation 272 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.080 and he talked about how he took two clubs with 273 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:09.720 him to every shot. He would never decide just based 274 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:11.960 on the yardage. He would take two different clubs and 275 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:14.039 decide for him it was is it a high shot 276 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:17.159 or a low shot? And he didn't make any decision 277 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.759 until he was standing behind the ball and assessing exactly 278 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.679 what he needed to accomplish before he decided which club 279 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:27.200 to hit. Yeah, which was a huge lesson for me. 280 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:29.919 The main thing when I took away from him, it 281 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.600 is just using your imagination. Sure I can talk about 282 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:35.000 with where you want your ball to be, just using 283 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:38.360 your imagination more and seeing he takes two clubs because 284 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:41.039 he's playing with the trajectory. So he just would rather 285 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:44.879 instead of trying to deloss a sixty degree. Everybody uses 286 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:46.840 a sixty degree now at team, So instead of trying 287 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.519 to deloss that and force the club into doing a 288 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.960 shot it's not really built for, he would just switch 289 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.120 to a fifty six or fifty four or nine iron 290 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.000 and then he can keep it. He can keep his 291 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.519 body or his technique if you will, whatever you want 292 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.759 to call that. He doesn't have to channel, can just 293 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.679 change the tool to match the trajectory that he has 294 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.480 in his imagination. You know which You're awesome? Right? 295 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:09.759 Spectacular? 296 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:12.519 Well? 297 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.360 If do you when you're when you're traveling, So now 298 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:19.759 you're traveling by car, but during in between tournaments and stuff, 299 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.399 you're flying with JB all the time. 300 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:25.200 Though right now we fly, we travel separately, So it's 301 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:27.320 an hour. If I can, it's I can work it 302 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.480 out so that I can get home, because if I 303 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.720 can drive, then I have more freedom, you know, if 304 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.039 I'll have to wait on a flight or rush to 305 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:38.559 a flight. I just felt like I don't like the 306 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.320 experience really going through airports and you're having to be 307 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.679 somewhere at a certain time. So if if I can drive, 308 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.600 its ten hours away. It just depending on, you know, 309 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:48.159 if we're going to be four weeks in a row. 310 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:50.480 If we're going to be four in a row, I'll fly. 311 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:52.720 But if I can, if I can find a way 312 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:57.039 to drive, I try to drive, but we fly separately. 313 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:01.200 We're gonna fly to the British Open. We are going 314 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:02.000 to do that together. 315 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:07.399 Then we'll come home, be home a week, and then 316 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:10.320 we'll be heading to Acron for. 317 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.320 The Firestone and then the PGA, and then we'll get 318 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.080 ready for the playoffs and we'll do several in a 319 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:17.000 row in the playoffs. 320 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.120 So looking forward to to all those events. 321 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.639 Yeah, I bet good luck on those. When now, when 322 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:24.960 you say you when you fly separately, do you mean 323 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:27.240 he flies first class and you fly coach or he 324 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:31.360 flies charter and you fly commercial or you take different planes. 325 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.960 Yeah, different, we're on different airplanes usually because why I'm flying, 326 00:15:38.279 --> 00:15:41.919 I'm flying home, or maybe you have scheduled a different flight. 327 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:46.080 We're just seat responsible for our own travel, you know. Now, 328 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.159 there there are times like he did have a deal 329 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:49.399 in the. 330 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.679 Past where maybe he has the private planes. 331 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:53.919 I mean, if he's flying privately or something like that, 332 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.799 he's taking me along, and you know, I'm grateful for that. 333 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:57.399 It's awful. 334 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:03.039 It's just a matter of schedule. We just schedule, schedule 335 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.399 our own flights. And here recently he's been flying just 336 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.600 commercial a lot more so hm hmm. 337 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.399 Do you listen to audio books when you're on the 338 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:14.879 road or do you know if JB. 339 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:16.960 But Jady and I have talked about it. He's been 340 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:19.559 listening to more and more audio books, which is you know, 341 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:24.000 is great. So we talked about just some audiobooks and 342 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:27.360 things that he's listened to. And I think it'll be 343 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:29.039 great because I don't have to take you know, now, 344 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.240 with today's technology, don't have to have a book with 345 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:35.759 you and and you know, come on the I phone 346 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:38.440 and on the fly or in the car. So that 347 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:39.000 would be great. 348 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:43.039 Yeah, and it's true. You download stuff automatically right down 349 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:44.519 to your iPhone. I know that you're you, and I 350 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.639 are talking on your cell phone right now on your iPhone. 351 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.159 I actually just took a driving trip down from the 352 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.639 San Francisco area down to Los Angeles and found an 353 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.759 eight hour book that took me there and back and 354 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.960 it was a really fun book. I really enjoyed it. 355 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:06.480 It's called ten Percent Happier. How I tamed the voice 356 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:09.640 in my head, reduced stress without losing my edge, and 357 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.440 found a self help that actually works. And it's written 358 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.319 by this guy named Dan Harris. Now, he was the 359 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:22.759 nightline anchor and he's worked for ABC Network and he 360 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:28.160 had a panic attack live on television while he was 361 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:32.640 doing a newscast on Good Morning America, and so he 362 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.319 realized at that point that he had to make some changes. 363 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.960 He's a non believer. He found himself in a very 364 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:43.720 bizarre situation, and then ABC made him their religious reporter, 365 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.160 and he was like, why am I covering religion? I 366 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:48.839 don't make it. But he just went on this self 367 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:55.079 help exploration and he found a way to tame his voice. 368 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.079 And it's interesting because while I was listening to it, 369 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.960 and he talked about meditation, he talked about mindfulness. It 370 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.720 resonated to me because so much of what I have 371 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:10.160 talked about on Golf Smarter really is kind of mindfulness, 372 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.119 and that is all that is is being present, being 373 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:18.680 in the moment. And so many instructors, so many mental 374 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:22.079 coaches that we've had on the show, talk about being 375 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.960 in the moment, focusing on the process and not about 376 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:31.519 the outcome. And Dan Harris talks about how all of 377 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.920 this work for him made him ten percent happier. And 378 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:38.079 it's a really entertaining book because there's so many stories, 379 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.920 especially if you like media and get his background and 380 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.480 turning Diane Sawyer onto meditation, that kind of stuff. It's 381 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:47.039 a great book to check out. 382 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.839 Yeah, well that's great. Just mindfulness and being president. That's 383 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.559 exactly what Tarry Orion Golf is about. And what you know, 384 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:55.680 what Colin is figured out how to do is just 385 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.680 basically get somebody. So it's easiest to okay, be mindful, 386 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:02.480 and it's easy to say, okay, be present, but now 387 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:05.039 how do you help me? Right? How do you know? 388 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:05.680 How do I do that? 389 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:06.480 What does that look like? 390 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:09.039 And so he has actually studied, you know, the brainway 391 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.279 patterns and everything of what what the brainways look like 392 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:14.240 when they're in this when someone is in the zone 393 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:15.799 that you know when you talk about all was in 394 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.119 the zone and is that okay? Why don't you just 395 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:20.119 get back to the zone. Why do you call out 396 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:22.000 his zone? Why does that happen? I'm a golfer and 397 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.240 it's happened to me, and it's like, how do you 398 00:19:24.279 --> 00:19:25.880 put your finger on that? So that's what he has, 399 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:29.519 you know, the vault, a way to just basically do that. 400 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.319 And he called the target or in a golf and 401 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.599