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Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty four, originally published

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on July eighth, twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 3: You start trying to take a picture when you make

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your golf cleen what that part it is? And when

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you can't do it, it's because it won't happen. You

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had early palm wine. You're cringing the club that happened,

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And then you want to why I don't make your

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golf One for a kind of gotigator talking about will

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president not be the redult orient and we're talking about

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doing at a golf what called OFWF What it is? You're

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outside with friend or people you like to at least

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be around. You're at a park. Basically, you've got land

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set aside that is free of course, about a beautiful bird,

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water ducks, all the beautiful bad and you got.

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Speaker 4: This picture app years that you can look at.

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Speaker 3: And I'm saying you just start looking at them, because

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everybody looks down at the grown into the white ball,

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and then that's the frustraction. I'm saying. You look up

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and find the party and set that in your mind

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and then enjoying the times and then you start feeling

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like having a good time on the golf course, and

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then you can say I'm a good golfer and your

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score nor reflected. But it won't be in the score.

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That won't be while you know you're parent, you know

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you're good, and you enjoy the time. Spin out there

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which your friend.

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Speaker 1: PGA Tour caddy for JB. Holmes, Brandon Parsons. This is

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Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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Speaker 5: Brandon, Hey, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 5: Where are you.

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Speaker 3: Right now? I am between Campbellsville and Bowling Greens and

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Punty and it's just going down to talk a little

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bit about a target, owning your golf and a point

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golf and a way to communicate and nation to the player.

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Right now. You know, I caddy, So my brother intent

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parking and instructor at Oldstone and I'm heading out the

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Oldstone Country Club and goinger into.

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Speaker 1: Customs and how much of your life has spent on

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the road.

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Speaker 3: A great amount. I travel just with word about thirty

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weeks plus the Ninus a few weeks, about thirty weeks

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with the tour events, and then while I'm home sometimes

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I scheduled some time like today to try to, you know,

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just advance my learning in regards to golf. So I'm

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using I've got a few days here before the British Open,

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and I'm just using this time to try to to

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brush up on some things, just green oriented, just just

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reading green, trying to get a few more puts to

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fall in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, we'll definitely talk about aime point putting. And

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because Colin Cromac was on the on the show just

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a few weeks ago talking about tour target oriented golf,

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that's how you and I got together. So I'm going

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to want to focus and talk a lot about target

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oriented golf from your perspective. But if you don't mind

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me asking, I'm just fascinated you were You've been on

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the tour this year with JB Holmes and caddying catting

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for him. Is this your first year caddying for JB?

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Speaker 3: Now? I started cattying in two thousand and eight, so

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I had caddy for JB. And just like we grew

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up playing golf together and sometimes we would take turns

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catting for each other. So we very much know each

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other's games. And he had me come out just to

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a couple of random tour events. I think it was

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a fun I in Florida when he was on tour

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and like oh six and I started full time.

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Speaker 4: In eight and we really enjoyed it. I had quite

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a bit of success.

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Speaker 3: I took some time to play in two thousand, late

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twenty twelve, first part twenty thirteen, and then he asked

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me to come back. So it's happy to come back

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get back to work with him. We've had a great

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year to about fourteen. I think he's made just over

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two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the last time I checked, it looked like

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it was just over two million dollars. And you still

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have quite a way to go in the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we still have quite a season left, so we're

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just trying to cone in on little ways to get better.

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Speaker 4: Some things we can do. Even at this level, it's.

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Speaker 3: Great to always feel like you can get a little

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bit better. And I think that's what draws us to golf,

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you know. I mean, even if you go out and

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shoot eighteen under, there was still you're like, man, that

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one left on the edge. Maybe it was for a

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hole in one, but that's that's crazy. That's what the

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mind does.

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Speaker 4: You know, you never seem to be happy.

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Speaker 3: Feel like you can strive for just to get a

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little better, and perfection never happens.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never met let me take that back. I've

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met one golfer in my life that said he was

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a good golfer. I've never met anybody say are you

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a golfer? Like I'm okay, you know, but you know,

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at my barber, he's like, oh yeah, I'm good, I'm

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a good golfer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like really, I've never heard anybody say that before. It's

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really amazing.

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Speaker 3: But like you see, and then you want to you

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want to go play with your barber and see what

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he thinks is good, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Because a different level, I have.

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Speaker 1: No interest in playing with this guy because I don't

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want him to start giving me lessons on the course.

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I just have a feeling he's going to start telling

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me what I'm doing wrong, and I have no interest

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in that whatsoever. I understand, But but it's like, you know,

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you you you go out and play with somebody and

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they say, so, are you a good golfer? I'm like, yeah,

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you know, I'm okay, I'm shooting in the you know,

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the mid eighties right now, Like wow, you're really good,

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and it's like, you know, but then if you you know,

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from his perspective, I always kind of see shooting in

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the eighties is kind of like turning sixty, you know. Uh,

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it's when you're sixty year old to young people and

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you're young to old people.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, well I'm starting to know again. I mean,

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if you want to get away from score, I'm just

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starting to notice that. I would call anyone that can

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be on the golf course and hitting shots and playing

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and keeping score if it looks like they're enjoying it,

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so you see them smiling, I would call them a

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good golfer. Somehow they've managed to hear you're keeping score

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and obviously you're not going to hit a perfect shot

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every time, so you deal with the frustration in a

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happy way. So anybody that can do that, in my mind,

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i'm you know, I'm starting to because that's the guys

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you know at programs and even on the tour where

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it just looks like they're not enjoying it like while

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you know, like while the understanding of that this is

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a game.

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Speaker 5: So I love that, I think along with h Yeah,

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if he's.

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Speaker 3: Present and just seeing the golf course and that gets

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us back again to the targeting or the golf.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I like that.

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Speaker 1: It's like if you think you're if you're having fun,

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then you're a good golfer.

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Speaker 5: Why not my little.

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Speaker 3: Boy, I don't know. He's five and we go out

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and he sees everything you know out there in the

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golf work.

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Speaker 4: He has a black Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he shoots one hundred and fifty if you

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ask him, So he's a good golfer.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't realize. You've got you've got a five

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year old and you're on the road thirty weeks a year.

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Speaker 5: That's got to be tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that cannot with me. Just when we can make

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it happen.

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Speaker 4: But my wife is very supportive and it's been it's

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been a really good ride.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, when when the guy you're working for is

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generating over two million dollars, you know, part the way

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through the season. Yeah, I think you should be supportive.

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I think she realized you're having.

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Speaker 5: Fun, but she realizes.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm lucky enough that I really love golf.

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I love gathering more information and learning, and that's what,

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you know, Golf is my motivation. You get to do that,

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and you know I take walks every day. We're out

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on the course for four four and a half hours

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with with my best buddy. You know, so it's.

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Speaker 5: It's it's well, your best buddy.

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Speaker 1: This year, yeah, this year, his winnings. You know, we

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we've we've talked about enough. But he's had some tough

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years the last couple of years too. He wasn't even

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did he not even get to compete for a while.

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He had some tough time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he had he had some surgery just the

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ki mountformation, so he had some skull removed which was

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very scary. Oh and then uh, he had a rollerblading

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accident and broken ankle and then he's had some surgery

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on his elbow and it's amazing. But again he used

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it as a motivation just to say, Okay, I'm gonna

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work out. I'm going to overcome all these things, and

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he's kind of out and want to get on tour.

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And I'm you know, I'm very proud of him.

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Speaker 1: I would think, well, being an old friend of his,

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have you guys grew up playing together and competing against

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one another. I got to imagine, and as as a cat,

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I've got to imagine there's been a lot of pep

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talks that come from you to get him back on track.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know more, it's just like, you know,

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you just wanted to hang in there because golf, like

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we just talked about, and very frustrating. So we're just

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trying to get back to the enjoyment and while we

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love golf and just every day, you know, just try

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to see the golf course and just noticing just little things.

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You know, you can play golf for a long time

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and never noticed that there are any birds chirping on

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the golf course today, You've not heard any for four years,

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and maybe you start hearing those, you know, you're on

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the right tranck if that may soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a new discovery just recently. Two of

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the golf courses that I play in the county I

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live in are dog friendly. Golf courses.

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Speaker 4: That's cool.

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Speaker 1: And so I have I have a little dog. I

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mean she's only about seventeen pounds, but she has been

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out with me four times now, and I'm like, look,

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if I'm gonna have to take my dog for a

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walk and I walk the golf course, why don't I

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just bring the dog. And she's been awesome. And the

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friends that I play with like when I bring her out,

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They're like, really, you're bringing your dog. And by the

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end of the round they were so happy that she

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was there because she's got this calming thing about her.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you're feeling frustrated stuff, you go over

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and you snuggle and pet with the dog and you

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feel great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dog doesn't Your dog doesn't care if you know,

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if he cop a shot or hit it in the woods,

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or if you burnied a hole you never made burnie

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on before, hit your longest drive. I mean, she's enjoying

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being It's like a park to dog, you know. So

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she's enjoying that experience from that point of view, which

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is what we should be doing. You know. I think

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we forget some time to get attached to the results

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and everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's maybe an episode will be Yeah,

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we'll be That's an episode we're going to be doing soon.

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Is how what your dog could teach you on the

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golf course.

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Speaker 4: That's very good, very good.

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Speaker 1: But if you ever get the chance to take a

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dog out with it, you got to give it a try.

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Speaker 5: It's really a lot of oh you have yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

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him to the golf course some and their experiences just

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really opened your eyes, you know differently, you really do.

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Speaker 1: But I live next to a golf course and on

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July fourth Holiday, just recently, somebody who lives on my

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block had company over and brought their dog with them,

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and the dog jumped over the fence onto the golf

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course and the dog and these guys are looking around like,

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who's that? Wait a minute, what is this dog doing here?

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You can see these golfers were so frustrated, and the

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dog was one of those hurting shepherds and was having

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so much fun. But every time a guy would take

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a shot, the dog would run down the fairway, pick

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up the ball and bring it back. You could imagine

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what this, yeah, you can imagine these these country club

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guys who just play the same course over and over

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again and play the same shot, and play the same

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club at the same tea box and hit it in

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the same bunker every time, and they never changed their

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game with something like that really rattled their cage.

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Speaker 5: It was very funny to watch exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's two opposite energies flipping. You know. Dogger is just

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all all blah. And you got people that you know, like,

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like you just said, play the same game. They play

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the same course, and it's like they've never thought, well,

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you know, is it good? I always I'm always long

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as this screen and it's terrible back there. It's all downhill,

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or you know, I never I don't like that ship.

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I wonder why they don't just hit a different club

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to a different spot and or go look and see

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where the good spot is.

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and he talked about how he took two clubs with

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him to every shot. He would never decide just based

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on the yardage. He would take two different clubs and

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decide for him it was is it a high shot

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or a low shot? And he didn't make any decision

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until he was standing behind the ball and assessing exactly

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what he needed to accomplish before he decided which club

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to hit. Yeah, which was a huge lesson for me.

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is just using your imagination. Sure I can talk about

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with where you want your ball to be, just using

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your imagination more and seeing he takes two clubs because

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he's playing with the trajectory. So he just would rather

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instead of trying to deloss a sixty degree. Everybody uses

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a sixty degree now at team, So instead of trying

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to deloss that and force the club into doing a

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shot it's not really built for, he would just switch

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to a fifty six or fifty four or nine iron

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and then he can keep it. He can keep his

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body or his technique if you will, whatever you want

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to call that. He doesn't have to channel, can just

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change the tool to match the trajectory that he has

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in his imagination. You know which You're awesome? Right?

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Speaker 1: Spectacular?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: If do you when you're when you're traveling, So now

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you're traveling by car, but during in between tournaments and stuff,

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you're flying with JB all the time.

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Speaker 3: Though right now we fly, we travel separately, So it's

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an hour. If I can, it's I can work it

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out so that I can get home, because if I

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can drive, then I have more freedom, you know, if

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I'll have to wait on a flight or rush to

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a flight. I just felt like I don't like the

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experience really going through airports and you're having to be

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somewhere at a certain time. So if if I can drive,

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its ten hours away. It just depending on, you know,

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if we're going to be four weeks in a row.

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If we're going to be four in a row, I'll fly.

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But if I can, if I can find a way

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to drive, I try to drive, but we fly separately.

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We're gonna fly to the British Open. We are going

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to do that together.

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Speaker 4: Then we'll come home, be home a week, and then

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we'll be heading to Acron for.

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Speaker 3: The Firestone and then the PGA, and then we'll get

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ready for the playoffs and we'll do several in a

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row in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: So looking forward to to all those events.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet good luck on those. When now, when

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you say you when you fly separately, do you mean

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he flies first class and you fly coach or he

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flies charter and you fly commercial or you take different planes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, different, we're on different airplanes usually because why I'm flying,

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I'm flying home, or maybe you have scheduled a different flight.

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We're just seat responsible for our own travel, you know. Now,

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there there are times like he did have a deal

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in the.

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Speaker 4: Past where maybe he has the private planes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he's flying privately or something like that,

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he's taking me along, and you know, I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 4: It's awful.

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Speaker 3: It's just a matter of schedule. We just schedule, schedule

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our own flights. And here recently he's been flying just

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commercial a lot more so hm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Do you listen to audio books when you're on the

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road or do you know if JB.

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Speaker 3: But Jady and I have talked about it. He's been

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listening to more and more audio books, which is you know,

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is great. So we talked about just some audiobooks and

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things that he's listened to. And I think it'll be

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great because I don't have to take you know, now,

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with today's technology, don't have to have a book with

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you and and you know, come on the I phone

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and on the fly or in the car. So that

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would be great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's true. You download stuff automatically right down

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to your iPhone. I know that you're you, and I

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are talking on your cell phone right now on your iPhone.

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I actually just took a driving trip down from the

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San Francisco area down to Los Angeles and found an

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eight hour book that took me there and back and

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it was a really fun book. I really enjoyed it.

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It's called ten Percent Happier. How I tamed the voice

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in my head, reduced stress without losing my edge, and

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found a self help that actually works. And it's written

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by this guy named Dan Harris. Now, he was the

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nightline anchor and he's worked for ABC Network and he

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had a panic attack live on television while he was

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doing a newscast on Good Morning America, and so he

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realized at that point that he had to make some changes.

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He's a non believer. He found himself in a very

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bizarre situation, and then ABC made him their religious reporter,

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and he was like, why am I covering religion? I

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don't make it. But he just went on this self

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help exploration and he found a way to tame his voice.

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And it's interesting because while I was listening to it,

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and he talked about meditation, he talked about mindfulness. It

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resonated to me because so much of what I have

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talked about on Golf Smarter really is kind of mindfulness,

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and that is all that is is being present, being

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in the moment. And so many instructors, so many mental

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coaches that we've had on the show, talk about being

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in the moment, focusing on the process and not about

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the outcome. And Dan Harris talks about how all of

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this work for him made him ten percent happier. And

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it's a really entertaining book because there's so many stories,

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especially if you like media and get his background and

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turning Diane Sawyer onto meditation, that kind of stuff. It's

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a great book to check out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's great. Just mindfulness and being president. That's

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exactly what Tarry Orion Golf is about. And what you know,

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what Colin is figured out how to do is just

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basically get somebody. So it's easiest to okay, be mindful,

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and it's easy to say, okay, be present, but now

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how do you help me? Right? How do you know?

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How do I do that?

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Speaker 4: What does that look like?

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Speaker 3: And so he has actually studied, you know, the brainway

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patterns and everything of what what the brainways look like

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when they're in this when someone is in the zone

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that you know when you talk about all was in

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the zone and is that okay? Why don't you just

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get back to the zone. Why do you call out

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his zone? Why does that happen? I'm a golfer and

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it's happened to me, and it's like, how do you

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put your finger on that? So that's what he has,

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you know, the vault, a way to just basically do that.

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And he called the target or in a golf and

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it makes sense because the easiest way to do it

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is just by finding a specific target. And it can

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be anything that you enjoy looking at that is in

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the picture of where you would like to get the golf.

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So let's say you're staying on this and bocks and

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you know there's this panoramic you but you're not necessarily

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looking in the tree still left of the fairway. You're

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looking somewhere through the stairway. There'll be something that just

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stands out and on toward everywhere there's a specific tree.

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It's like an architect put it there on purpose. Every

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hole we have that, and I found when I play

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other places every hole has that there's something that stands out.

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It's like God put it there for you to look

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at the architecture. You know, who never built the gout force,

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whatever it is, that's where you should be looking to

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hit this shot. And that's what you should be thinking

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about while you swing, not your golf swing, Not what

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you're going to tell your friends, Not that this is

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going to be your longest sea side to day, not

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that you're down for in your match, not that you're

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up for in your match. Think about the party every

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time on the driving range and the event of your life.

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And that is the breakdown that happens when when people

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are playing golf, you know, And it's simple to explain

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once you understand, in my opinion, once you understand what

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Paul's talking about with target orient golf. But it's not

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necessarily easy to do because it's falling into this trap

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the results only in it, like you just said, and

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going past future and lighting your mind just just run

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them up. So you know, said before to someone that

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you either control your mind or it's going to control you.

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And everybody goes up to the golf course and they

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let their mind control them, and you can tell it's

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controlling them because they don't seem to be enjoying golf

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very much. They'll come back and play again tomorrow or

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next weekend. They like it enough because they hit that

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one shot.

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Speaker 4: They're hooked.

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Speaker 3: They hit that shot they know they can do, and

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they keep saying, walk down and do that every time. Right,

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you're adlter. So so.

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Speaker 1: You have worked with Colin, you've studied with Colin, or

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you just like the concept that he's he's been doing.

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Speaker 3: You know, I calling something. So I got together with

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Colin just basically I'd played in some advances and I've

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been away from competition golf for a while. So the

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first thing that happened I near that acuse, the payment event,

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anything that you're looking forward to for a long time

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and you practice for, and that's what you're thinking about

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when you're practicing, Right, that's how you could practice all

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practice event I want to do well. You're practicing your touch,

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you're thinking about that, So that's the future. You're not

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being in the present when you practice. Then that event happens,

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and it's impossible to be in the president at that part.

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You haven't really practicing in the president. And then you

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don't get the results you wanted, and you're like, what,

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you know the practice? HA spent all these hours practicing golf,

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and so I knew I had a problem that no

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one had. Really. It was the first time I knew

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it was a problem. I went, I went to the

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huge school event and just hit you know, I was

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playing well and just hit this shot off the map

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and that's not like me. I hit it in the water,

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you know. Lastly, I guess you would call a double cross.

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I've never really hit that kind of shot before. And

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I thought, I knew that my mind had it's gotten

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away from me. So I just started looking for anybody,

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you know, just anybody could on online basically, and there

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was Target Warning a golf and I read about it,

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and on his website he was describing what exactly what

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I thought my problem was. And then he had these

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one after shots and you could tell a different I

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couldn't tell what the difference was. And so I got

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ahold of just through actually end point golf model thing

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in the UK said hey, you know this guy is

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actually I just went with that with that calling. So

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he put us in touch, introduced us, and I started

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talking to him and I posted conversation. I mean, he

479
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he call and explain to me exactly what my problem was.

480
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,079
And I talked to him every week for the next

481
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,240
few weeks and we just talked about target warning golf

482
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and I would send him videos of me doing it,

483
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:53,079
and yeah, you know, I came to an understanding of

484
00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:55,480
exactly what he was talking about and was able to

485
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,240
put in practice. And more importantly, I'm able to from

486
00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:02,519
a caddy standpoint, help the player focus on the things

487
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:05,119
that we need to focus on, you know what I mean,

488
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:09,680
which is the target. We practice with the target, and

489
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,160
we played them with the parties, and now we're able

490
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,279
to practice more closely instead of being worrying about the

491
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000
swinging so much. I mean again, if the traffic comes

492
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:23,240
up right. But you'll find for the weekend golfers out there,

493
00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,799
you'll find that it's when you spend time practicing or

494
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:30,039
you're thinking at home about the target, like a hole

495
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,039
that you saw, if you knew what your target was,

496
00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:37,359
that's different than just knowing that there was a fairly

497
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,160
there and you had no idea really what you were

498
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,759
swinging in You're trying to get the ball affairly and

499
00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:44,519
you were thinking about maybe your release, or maybe your

500
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:47,880
weight shift, or maybe something somebody told you you got

501
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,079
to make sure this dellow.

502
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 4: Is here or that.

503
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,799
Speaker 3: That's totally different experience than thinking about the target and

504
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,119
reacting to the target. Totally different. And you'll know what

505
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,960
I'm talking about when you reflect that.

506
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: Maybe you're cooking.

507
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 3: Then a leader and you can go through the holes

508
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,079
and every hole is you have a target, and you'll

509
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,640
be at first when you start doing this sorry orient

510
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,400
a golf, there'll be holes that you slipped up and

511
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,440
you'll realize, oh, I don't know what my parget was there.

512
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,160
And when you get really good at it, you start

513
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,559
you start catching it when you step into your shot,

514
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,519
and when you in mind you start trying to paint

515
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,200
a picture. When when you make your dolls clean, what

516
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,240
that part it is? And when you can't do it,

517
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,359
it's because you don't have one, because you never really

518
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,319
sold one. You're just swinging the club at nothing, and

519
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,079
then you wonder why you don't get your results you want.

520
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,799
So I kind of go together. You're talking about being present,

521
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:38,839
not being a results oriented, and we're talking about enjoyment

522
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,480
a golf and what's called dolfhood. It is you're you're

523
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:44,519
outside with friends or people you like to at least

524
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:45,000
be around.

525
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: You're at a park.

526
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,799
Speaker 3: Basically, you've got landset aside that is free. Of course,

527
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:52,480
it is not as beautiful birds, water ducks, you know,

528
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,200
all these beautiful things. And you've got these picture, these

529
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,279
these pictures, these views that you can look at, and

530
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,559
I'm saying, just start looking at them, because everybody looks

531
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,559
down at the ground and see this white ball, and

532
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,839
then that's the frustration. I'm saying, look up and find

533
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,000
the target. It's get that in your mind and the

534
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,759
enjoyment comes, and then you start feeling like that the

535
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:15,319
story you just talked about with the dog, I mean

536
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,440
he's having a blast, is having a good time on

537
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,480
the golf course. And then you can say I'm a

538
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,640
good golfer and your score won't reflect it. But it

539
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,640
won't be in the score.

540
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 4: That won't be while you know you're good.

541
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: You know you're good because you enjoyed the time you

542
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:31,400
stand out there which your friends.

543
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: On the target concept, Am I picking a spot that

544
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160
I want the ball to land on? Am I picking

545
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,880
like you were saying, a tree in the distance that

546
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,039
I want my ballflight to follow?

547
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,079
Speaker 5: I'm looking that.

548
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:57,839
Speaker 1: Give me specific because I know that sometimes I'll look

549
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,920
at a spot on the fairway and I'll focus on

550
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960
that spot on the fairway, and then when I get

551
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,119
you know, and then I bring my head back, and

552
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480
all of a sudden, now that I'm looking at the ball,

553
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:10,160
I start thinking about, Okay, make sure my elbow doesn't

554
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240
fly out, make sure that my weight shift is correct, right,

555
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:15,680
you know, I'll get lost in that, and then I

556
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,480
but but don't and then you know, and then I

557
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:19,279
hear myself, but don't forget where you're trying to hit

558
00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,720
the ball. So there's too many things obviously going on

559
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,839
in my head at once, but I get lost on

560
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,640
whether I'm you know, focusing on a landing spot or

561
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,160
a ball flight or are they mutually exclusive? Are they

562
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,599
the same thing?

563
00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's so. On the on the tea box,

564
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,440
most often, what what I will talk about is there

565
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,759
will be playing to wear that has tree. So I'm

566
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,599
usually looking at a certain color tree or a trunk.

567
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,359
Maybe there's a clickd trunk. Maybe there's a tree that

568
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,960
makes a why so you would your ball would never

569
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,160
get to that tree that might be through the fair

570
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,559
way on the line that would be anywhere on that

571
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,359
line would be good. So maybe maybe the cover to

572
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,240
get to the fairway is like to twenty and then

573
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:08,400
you run out to go and through the rough on

574
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,680
the other side is like three thirty. You with me,

575
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:14,359
So we have a line created and you you can

576
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,759
draw into that line. You can fade into that line

577
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,240
that you're wanting to call the end somewhere on that line,

578
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:21,119
but it can never get to that tree because it's

579
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200
three is four hundred yards away or four und yards

580
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,559
away maybe, or maybe it's three hundred and thirty yards away.

581
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,799
So there's this picture, and then what if I took

582
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,000
a picture with a camera and then brought it to you.

583
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,240
I would circle on a rip saying, hey, you know

584
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,279
on this line, I can show you on this line,

585
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,480
if you get it towards this tree, you have to

586
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,400
get a two and twenty yards get to the fairway,

587
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:44,519
or two hundre yards get to the fairway, and then

588
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,680
three hundred and thirty three. Now, if those numbers that

589
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:49,960
work for you can can't hit it to it in

590
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,200
twenty yards, you need to have a different target. You

591
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:55,680
with me, Yeah, you would shift it over to where

592
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
you can reach the fairway. Say, okay, So if I'm

593
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:02,200
describing a target for my wife, is just a game

594
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:04,880
golf I describe, I'm like, hey, do you see that?

595
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,200
You know, there's this tree, there's this group of pie.

596
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:11,440
Now my target sometimes is way less closer to the green,

597
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:13,759
you know, and I find something that I like to

598
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:16,799
think about. She may not ever see you're playing the

599
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:19,519
framed golf course, but she would never see what I'm

600
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:22,720
necessarily looking at. And I would never look when I'm

601
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,880
playing off. I would never necessarily look where she's looking.

602
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,000
But it needs to be something. It can be a

603
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:30,079
bird on a tree, you know. You know, a bird

604
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960
might fly away, but a bird might direct you towards

605
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,839
the tree you never saw before. So that's on the

606
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,039
pie that is when we get closer to the hole.

607
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,799
They can be that spot on the green. But there's

608
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,000
a problem if you're picking the spot to land in

609
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,039
the fairway, well what if your drive is man a

610
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880
favor than that, you know, so it's easier just to

611
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,039
pick trunking up and you want to you know, and

612
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,559
it's doing the track man. Everything is related, but TrackMan

613
00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,240
never say to me the boss fall you will end up,

614
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:56,839
you know, pluck two to four degrees and sing out well,

615
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,240
So you want to be looking at something higher because

616
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,839
you want to hit up on a driver. You want

617
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,079
to catch it on the upswing right of your circle

618
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,440
by spurs of chips. You're going to land somewhere short

619
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,839
of the can so now and if it's breaking to

620
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,680
the left, your target will be shortened to the right

621
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,759
of the top and if you and you can make

622
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,960
your circle, depending on how good at golf, how much

623
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480
you get, lady to make your circle bigger, you can

624
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,799
have a bigger target, or you can make it smaller,

625
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,359
especially if you're playing well, or or if it's significantly downhill.

626
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,759
Maybe maybe you have a small fot it's closer to

627
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,799
you and you just have to bump it. We've all

628
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,000
done this. You just want to where you were doing it.

629
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,519
Maybe you're going to hear a little nine here and

630
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,400
it's a downhill right left breaking you know, twenty feet away.

631
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,319
You're not trying to knock a nine iron in the hole. Oh.

632
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:45,960
You shift your target closer to you and further to

633
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:47,920
the right, and you're like, I just think it's that

634
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,079
fought and the ball will tunnel down to the hole

635
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,480
that moment you're doing target only a golf and most

636
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,960
of the time people are successful on those types of shots.

637
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,960
It's just I'm talking about and talk expanding that fought

638
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:02,559
all the way back toity and doing it every time.

639
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:04,960
So in a sense it can be a little bit boring,

640
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,519
but it's not boring, and that you get to see

641
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,440
more of the golf course and you notice these things

642
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,960
that were there all along. But most of the time

643
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:15,039
people are just looking at the golf ball and thinking

644
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:17,079
about the golfspel. So then you want to get to

645
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:18,160
enjoy the golf course.

646
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:22,079
Speaker 5: Wow.

647
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's mind blows because they're all along and most

648
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,200
people have done it, you know, they just don't they're

649
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,160
not aware. So really, Colin has a systematic way of

650
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,119
just becoming aware. And if you do that every day

651
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,759
you practice and every day you play golf, you get

652
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:43,759
better because you get feedbacks when you miss your target.

653
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,920
You don't have to go to the golf swing and

654
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,839
think technically, all my faces up at your feet and

655
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,720
you have a feeling all of a sudden, feelings is

656
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:54,039
so big because your mind is the only thinking about

657
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,680
the target, and then you can adjust your feeling and

658
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:00,200
guess what your swing comes out looking just like track

659
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,680
man says it should, or just like the guys on tour.

660
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,359
It takes time and you're I'm not saying you're gonna

661
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,119
have You're gonna have your tour swan that you understand,

662
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:14,240
and that is golf actually knowing where the golf ball

663
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:16,400
is going to go before you hit it, whether it's

664
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,359
a favor or all, whatever it is. Once you have,

665
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,200
once you can hit a four and different difference in

666
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,400
a set of iron and then some sort of wood

667
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,519
a little bit further than before you are playing golf.

668
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:31,519
The next thing you want to do then is understanding

669
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:36,240
uphiel shots are easier in general than downhill shots because

670
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:38,839
gravity will stop it. So then you're looking for places

671
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,119
that you can get your ball around the green, that

672
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,720
you have an uphill chip or an upfield putt, and

673
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:47,720
then you can start having lower scores. You know, so

674
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,599
eighteen number is nine. So if you're not working ninety,

675
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,559
you need to find some way where do you like

676
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440
to hit your shot from the fairway, Like if you

677
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:58,720
block out on the left, if the dog leg left,

678
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,079
you already know you don't want your target to be

679
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,839
down the left unless you hate it. Maybe it's great.

680
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,640
If you're gonna hear it the sling, you're going to

681
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:07,359
the that part of the saily. So your target to

682
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,680
be you could start it on the left corner. There

683
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,599
may be a tree that you love to swing it,

684
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,480
and you can just wear it out and do your

685
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,279
swing at that target. But you know the balls want

686
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,960
to cut. You're playing golf. Now when you get to

687
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,440
the next shot, you know you only shore the hole. Well,

688
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,279
you're seven, I might get through the hole. Getting through

689
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:27,839
the whole badge is it's extremely downhill. So you choose

690
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,359
an adie and you find a target that you like

691
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,519
looking at, and you know it's gonna fade. So maybe

692
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:35,400
the front left of the green. There the tree, there's

693
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,599
the green. Maybe there's a cart path there. Everybody's seeing

694
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720
these places I'm talking about, and they've done it. It's

695
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:42,559
just being aware and starting to do it every time.

696
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:45,519
Then you're playing golf, you aid out and stay shore.

697
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,359
Maybe you get to get it and it just creeps up.

698
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,400
Now you have an upfield chair, throw an upfield cut,

699
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,960
chip up putt that's above chip up. Make a putt

700
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:54,599
below the hole.

701
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,559
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

702
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:59,119
Speaker 3: That's a part and then just waiting for those opportunities

703
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,079
where you're comfortable with anchershot and then you might make

704
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:06,720
a birdie, had a birdie Clott. But those happen almost

705
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,960
by accident, and it's not like you purpose to say

706
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,960
I'm going to burdy this whole. No, there's a plane

707
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,599
you can put in play with targets that can lead

708
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,119
you to a birdie, you know, but it's not just

709
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,320
step up and work and just swinging targ I can

710
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,719
you know, and think about releasing the club and think

711
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,280
about this elbow that's not going to lead you where

712
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:30,000
you want to be. That's frustration, the that's what you know.

713
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is all a critical element of the

714
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,280
pre shot routine.

715
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, And what I really liked about talking with

716
00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:44,199
Colin you know about the pre shot routine is that

717
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,079
you're maybe stepping across a creek or you know, climbing

718
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,360
not climbing once. Once you have a process that you're

719
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,119
comfortable with, and it starts with you and confirming okay,

720
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,159
you have that thing. You need to be aware you're

721
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,280
on a golf course. You want to be here right,

722
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,559
so you're going to enjoy the next thirty You needs

723
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:06,519
to be enjoyment, which is where you're chosen to be.

724
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Then you're going too what do I see you before me?

725
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,239
You know, oh, okay, there's a creek. Am I going

726
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,800
over the creek?

727
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: Short the creek?

728
00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: So you're making a decision on your club. Okay, we're

729
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,800
gonna go over the creek and we have one hundred

730
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,199
and fifty yards to the front is longod from a

731
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,360
catting standpoint. I'm just telling you what I would do

732
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,280
it in a couple of seconds to help the player.

733
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000
You know, it might take me longer to explain, but

734
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,400
you do this in a few seconds. Short, this pin

735
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,320
is better. You know, we have twenty yards to cover

736
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,360
over the creek, so shorts good. One fifty front, so

737
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:43,039
nine ie gets to the front and the king down seven.

738
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:45,360
But we know shorts, okay, we could maybe chip it

739
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,199
in or you know, we are gonna feel shot, so

740
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,199
we're gonna choose a nine iron. The wind is you know,

741
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,480
there's not my twin right now? And then you're gonna

742
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,320
find a target. Okay, what is short left? When I

743
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,480
look short left, what do I see? And that there

744
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,320
will lead this tree track? All right, that's my target.

745
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna hit the tree truck.

746
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: Now, if it's saved a little bit, yeah, maybe I

747
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,079
hit it closer I'm into. But if it goes exactly

748
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:10,360
where I want, I would have an upheel left to

749
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,719
right Bertie put Now, if you want to write an

750
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239
uphill right to left Birdy putt. I'm talking about people

751
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,480
that have played the golfers. They know what they know

752
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:19,519
where they like to put from. You might choose a

753
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:22,480
target a different tree just to the right, opinion right.

754
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,679
If you get close enough and you have an a

755
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000
R shot and you really are good with your legs,

756
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480
your target can be a pin. You know, it doesn't

757
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,440
have to be. Your desired outcome is different than your target,

758
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,119
most of it. Sometimes they are the same. The time

759
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:42,360
that's the same would be like a three foot straight putt.

760
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,239
All right, But as far as you get what we've

761
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,280
learned from main point, if you're above the whole breaking

762
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,599
left to right and the drink since eleven, now your

763
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,360
target is closer to you on further out to the

764
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,760
left as a whole, because gravity's gonna think it to

765
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,719
the right, so your target can't be the whole. You'll

766
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,440
miss it. Well right, we won't have to hit it hard.

767
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,199
You could go straight over the cup your target.

768
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,159
Speaker 4: Then are you with me?

769
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, where people kind of get confused your cognitive that

770
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,280
place a place like that niner and where do you

771
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,599
make this fall and you can go back in. You

772
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:17,679
can do it to this place and then grabbing it

773
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,719
kind of the rest with a driver. Your target is

774
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,639
somewhere down range and it's fun. You know, it can

775
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:26,960
be a cloud if they're not moving.

776
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean growing up.

777
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: There there was some guys and then we were doing

778
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,480
this stuff. And I think people do it all the

779
00:37:31,519 --> 00:37:32,239
time when they play.

780
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: They're just not aware of this that we're doing this

781
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:34,880
stuff when we're unger.

782
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 3: Oh, you'll hit it fat, you know, you'll hit this

783
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:41,400
uh the tier line poles, you know. I mean, as

784
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,239
long as you hit that direction, you'll see down to

785
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,000
the right and kind of going fairly or you know

786
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:46,920
that's the rough, the land and the rough, but it's

787
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,599
going to just down. That's your target, the self a pulse.

788
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,440
But that cloud above them today, there's a cloud there.

789
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,239
It's fay. They're not might not be. That's why cloud

790
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,480
aren't necessarily good accuses the target, you know, But as

791
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,719
long as you're there in the moment, you can choose

792
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,519
that your ball is ever going to hit that cloud,

793
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:06,639
though the question about where the target would.

794
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,159
Speaker 1: Be, Yeah, your mind may hit the cloud. But that's

795
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,559
a different topic altogether.

796
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: I like and that's yes exactly.

797
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: I like the the concept of desired outcome is different

798
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:29,159
than the target. You said that a moment ago, and.

799
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: Should we not?

800
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: Are you saying that folks on the target and forget

801
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,840
about the desired outcome? Or is desired outcome an important

802
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,880
part of your preshot routine?

803
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,639
Speaker 3: Well, the desired outcome we need keep the choosing the target,

804
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:43,800
doesn't it?

805
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 5: Yea in the hole of course?

806
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: How am I going to get this ball to roll

807
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:50,679
in the hole? Well, that's how you're gonna shoot your target. Now,

808
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,840
let's say you go through your pre short routine. Like

809
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,599
I said, you can't too on a large So you know,

810
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,000
now we're putting all right, uh downhill left the riot

811
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:02,039
your chosen point pain point. Also that knowledge has helped

812
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:05,599
us maybe choose a choose a target, but really desired outcome.

813
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,519
You know from experience that this put's going to go

814
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:10,760
down onto the left, and you've chosen there's this little uh,

815
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:15,119
there's this little ball mark that you know that your

816
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:18,599
ball just rolls over the inside edge, then it'll just

817
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,079
be it just funnels over to the hole. So now

818
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,719
that's our target inside, you know, the inside part of

819
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,199
this ball mark and you're gonna step in, and you

820
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,199
have this checklist of things that helps you get comfortable.

821
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,679
Some people get tour players do it, you know. Some

822
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,800
people twist their hips a little bit. Some people fidget

823
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000
with their whatever they're doing, they do that. It's not

824
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,960
that they're they're not thinking about shaking their hands. It's

825
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,280
that they're thinking about something else, and they shake their

826
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,760
hand when they think about that, right, And that's why

827
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,079
they do it.

828
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,199
Speaker 5: Every time they use that, they use that as a trigger.

829
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,639
Speaker 1: They use that to try to get their mind away

830
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,000
from getting in that direction.

831
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, you know a lot of people that talk to

832
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,159
don't know that they're doing it.

833
00:39:59,360 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

834
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: But it's not a matter necessarily of to change to

835
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:05,880
get their mind away from something. It's just a matter

836
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,039
of that's that's what helps them. That little move gets

837
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,280
that's how they double check to make sure that maybe

838
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,000
they're the right elbow. You know. So I do some

839
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,079
things when I'm setting up and in my mind I'm like, okay,

840
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:19,199
all right, up, it's such an you know, my hip

841
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,079
and and so what it looks like externally is not

842
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,119
what it feels like internally. So what my mind, what

843
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,480
I'm doing is totally different than what people would perceive

844
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,079
when they watch my body move or what a camera

845
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:30,440
would show me and be like, wow, why do I

846
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:33,280
do that? You know? So you're stepping in and doing

847
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,480
these things, and then once once you checklist is that,

848
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,760
once you've done everything, it's time to hit the ball.

849
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,480
At that moment, you're thinking about the target, but you're

850
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:43,239
looking at the ball.

851
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

852
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: So it's like driving down the road. You know where

853
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,920
the road is that you can look at. You can

854
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:51,320
notice a tree to the left, or you're like, oh

855
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,960
there's a lake, and you look away from the road,

856
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:56,719
but you don't the wheel over and run off the road.

857
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,039
You stay on the road, you know, and keep and

858
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:02,800
keep traveling. You just for a second. That's what looking

859
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,039
at the ball should be. Like, the ball's there, but

860
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:08,360
that's not where your mind goes. The fine stays on

861
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,400
the target. Your eyes come to the ball, notice it

862
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,920
for a second so you can do your stroke. Other

863
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,679
people have said this, They said, trace with your eyes,

864
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,840
you know, from the hole back to the ball, and

865
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,119
as soon as your eyes get to the ball, it's

866
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:24,880
trying to hit your stroke. That's what they mean.

867
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: I think that isn't that Jeff Mangum who says that

868
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:32,360
on putting, because I've done that for years. I will

869
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,800
trace the line from the hole back to my ball,

870
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,880
and as soon as my eyes get to the ball,

871
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:38,639
I'm pulling off the stroke.

872
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you got it. And then and then all

873
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,360
I'm saying is fine and good and do that. And

874
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,440
that's externally what it may look like. And then target

875
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,400
owing at golf, Colin has found that you can control

876
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,000
your brain waves and get in the zone. It's in

877
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,000
your mind when you're when you're looking at that ball.

878
00:41:58,079 --> 00:41:59,960
Once your eyes get to that ball, you're thinking about

879
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,039
your target and you can only think about it if

880
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,480
you saw it. If you can't think about it, that

881
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,559
means you didn't see it. And that's when you see

882
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:09,840
to our guys back out. You come back out and

883
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880
you're like, oh, didn't you didn't even see my target?

884
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,480
What is my target? And you use that use that voice,

885
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,159
you know that that goes through your head. Just control it.

886
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,239
Either you control it or it's going to control you

887
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,519
and use that voice to talk about your targets yourself.

888
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,639
You say out loud if you want, but if you're

889
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,119
around people, you just do it internally and inside your

890
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:28,920
head and you're like, okay, that's why, justin, I love

891
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,039
that spot. Set my club down. Okay, it's a club plant. Yeah,

892
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:34,039
the clubs plant the spot on my hands where you

893
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:35,079
know your hands are good.

894
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 4: That is good.

895
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: Uh, there's my checklist and the us I left to

896
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,519
that spot. There's the ball stroke and the ball will

897
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,880
go and so I left to that spot funnel into

898
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,960
the hole. And now you got your our outcome. Now

899
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,199
you just ask do we don't work about this orry outcome?

900
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,960
If you did everything and you're happy with doing everything,

901
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,440
you did everything that you can control, and you roll

902
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,360
it over the inside left. Maybe you misread you couldn't

903
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,719
just read it. That happens, or maybe it hits something.

904
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,239
So if the ball doesn't go in the hole, there's

905
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,039
no point in getting angry and mad and letting it

906
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,599
affect your next shot or affect your day. Just notice

907
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:13,159
that you misread it, and you can say that I

908
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,199
hit it too hard. Then you know something that I

909
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,360
need to adjust my target thing. Maybe greens are slower.

910
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,840
You can't control these things, superintend and then mother greens

911
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,760
today they're slower. Just notice that if they're slower. You know,

912
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960
some people change the you can change the weights before

913
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,400
the round. But the easiest thing to do is just

914
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,480
change your target. And now I feel put You pretend

915
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:34,559
the hole further up the hill than it than it

916
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:38,199
currently is, and then you hit it as if the

917
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,239
holes behind the actual hole. So the holes behind you

918
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,800
know there's three feet up the hill, You're gonna hit

919
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,760
three feet behind it and the ball will just go

920
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,719
in and you don't you know, you don't have to

921
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,039
worry about it. And if you show up and the

922
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:52,599
greens are faster, you bring your target closer to you.

923
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,280
So all of a sudden you have a maybe you

924
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,679
have a ten footer and the greens are faster and

925
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,719
used to playing on you're playing some quotes you haven't

926
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,840
played for bring a target closer to you. You know

927
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,639
in your mind, Yeah, there's a hole that's just supposed

928
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,960
to you. No, that's it.

929
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: Now, what about untarget oriented golf? And I'm going to

930
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,519
want to talk about aim point putting too, but on

931
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:18,199
target oriented golf, the post shot routine. Where do you

932
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,559
incorporate target oriented golf in your post shot?

933
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,639
Speaker 3: Well, A lots of people. Oh that's very important.

934
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

935
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: Think you have to get feet in order to get better,

936
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,000
you must get feedback. So you've got to watch where

937
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,639
the ball went, all right, You've got to know where

938
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,039
the ball goes in relation to your target. And then

939
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:44,519
it helps me to think about the sensations I had

940
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:50,239
when I was swinging okay, and then the out that

941
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,559
I get the desire outcome. No, you got some outcome.

942
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,320
It may not be the desired outcome, but those sensations

943
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,320
led to that result. You accept that result, get back,

944
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:02,360
and then go get your next shot. And that's what's

945
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,840
great about the range. But you can use the range

946
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,239
just to stand projectiles down this field, or you can

947
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:13,079
go to the range and work on your desire outcome

948
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,159
and think about the target and and and feel and

949
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,679
golf really is just feeling an imagination.

950
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: Now let's move over to aim point. All right, how

951
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:23,840
how did you get started with that?

952
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: Where?

953
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:28,559
Speaker 5: What is it about it that you like and how

954
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:29,360
has it made you?

955
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: Or you're the person you're caddy and carrying for, you're

956
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,000
looping for uh, how does it make them better?

957
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: Well? Really, am point Mark twen is doing a good

958
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,119
job just having a systematic way. It's just physics, you know,

959
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:52,000
of the ball rolling friction and that generates break. So

960
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,719
side hill and then he has a chart you know

961
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,280
that he's developed and he can just look at the numbers.

962
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,000
And the gist of it is is downhill is a tightrope.

963
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,840
So downhill is speed sensitives and aim sensitive. So I

964
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,079
can it to a tightrope or you have this fine line,

965
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:12,760
if you hit it a little bit too hard, it

966
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,360
might not go in.

967
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: You hear a little bit too easy, it's not gonna

968
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:15,159
go in.

969
00:46:15,559 --> 00:46:21,679
Speaker 3: An uphill is the funnel, you have wider margin for error, right,

970
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,760
And basically that's what I'm going, you know, to work

971
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,320
on a little bit today is just you know, the expressory.

972
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,440
But basically I JD likes my opinion. When we're reading

973
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,119
greens group, we read greens together, so we've got to

974
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,679
have some sort of way to communicate and we use

975
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,239
you know, I'm using target oriented golf to communicate the

976
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,559
line I'm seeing. But basically we just you know, as

977
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:50,000
greens get faster, you play more break downhill fall, it

978
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:51,840
takes longer for the ball to get to the hole

979
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,079
because you don't put as much energy into if you

980
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:55,920
put the same amount of energy into if the ball

981
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,960
will you know, roll straight over the hole and just

982
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,519
keep going off the green. So you already know that

983
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:02,840
that's not what we're gonna do, So you just keep

984
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,360
bringing it back and basically you're trying to get the

985
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,920
ball to roll about eight inches past all that's just

986
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:12,679
the speed that makes the hole the biggest. The more

987
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,920
you can get, we said earlier for amateur golfers, the

988
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,199
more you can have those up to shots from left

989
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,199
or right in the hole. I mean, see you're just

990
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,960
pouring pouring the ball into the hole. You know it's

991
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,159
just going to go in all day. You have wider margin,

992
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,719
prayer ship shots, I can you know, I can take

993
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,480
a green and drop balls around and say, you know,

994
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,400
statistically you're going to miss. This is going to be

995
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:38,360
very difficult to speed into this and line. Now there's

996
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:42,239
you know, studies that show that downhill putt you are

997
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,639
more likely to make, but that's skewed because you're more

998
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,800
likely to get a downhill putt to the hole. So

999
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,800
if it never gets there, it never goes there. Well,

1000
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,400
that's true, But you want to pack in all day

1001
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,159
or do you want to grinding out six footers? You know, saying.

1002
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 5: Tap in, please.

1003
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Die, just die down to the hole, play more bike.

1004
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:10,199
So that's and just communicating, communicating there and just working

1005
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:10,760
with the sea.

1006
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: So do you are you one of those guys that

1007
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,639
when you're looking looking at your putts you're thinking, okay, uh,

1008
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,719
you know one ball outside the cup or are you

1009
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,360
looking at the line that it's going to take and

1010
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,119
you're looking at on the break, You're looking at where

1011
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,320
the apex of that break is and you're trying to

1012
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:32,199
follow that line.

1013
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird for me. And you know, so I

1014
00:48:41,559 --> 00:48:44,199
always since I've been point off, I start to see

1015
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,800
this like dark green. It's like darker green looks like

1016
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,000
a shadow almost hardest my imagination does. So to me,

1017
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,400
it's there, I see this line that goes through the

1018
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,639
hole and it beings and it's darker green usually darker

1019
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:00,519
in shade, and it's the width of the whole. It

1020
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,119
comes all the way back to the ball for me,

1021
00:49:03,079 --> 00:49:06,480
and then just incorporating, you know, aain point shows me

1022
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,760
how you know, if I walk in and it's four

1023
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,400
percent slope, and I can feel that in my feet

1024
00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:13,440
by where my singer gravity goes when I step in.

1025
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,079
I went agreeing with my free a lot on towards

1026
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:18,159
help j you know, JB. And we have books on

1027
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,360
tour that have the amount of slope and everything. So

1028
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:24,320
anything around two percent is pretty flat when you start

1029
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,679
getting two and a half thirty percent to fill that

1030
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,519
in your feet. And so if I walk in and

1031
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,000
I'm like you, I look at the book and it's

1032
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:36,000
like four percent, and then we're on a nine every

1033
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,480
angle to the whole. So we're hole high basically, which

1034
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,679
everybody wants to be whole high. You never actually want

1035
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,199
to be a hole.

1036
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:42,599
Speaker 4: High below the whole way.

1037
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: Better, now that this stuck's going to break, you know

1038
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,000
as much on his chart, Just know that it's going

1039
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:50,679
to break as much as the hand. Whether the seed

1040
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,239
is eleven, you know, fourteen or eight, it doesn't matter.

1041
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,039
It's gonna break a lot. So you just need to

1042
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,480
look a little higher. So now I'm seeing I'm kind

1043
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:04,400
of I'm using looking backwards four percent or on the

1044
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,760
ninth it's going to probably come in from somewhere to

1045
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,039
the top of the hole now I'm in my line

1046
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:10,920
out that way. Does that make sense? So I see

1047
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,920
a dark shadow, and then there might be something on

1048
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:16,679
my little shadow target wise, there's that ball mark again,

1049
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:20,199
or there's a piece of sand or something that my

1050
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,840
ball maybe not roll over, but I'm going to start

1051
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,360
at that line and it becomes a straight putt's setting

1052
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,320
up and I'm gonna put it straight up at that target.

1053
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:30,920
Does that make sense?

1054
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 5: Yes? It does, Yes it does.

1055
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:39,199
Speaker 3: So I incorporated maybe everything because every I really feel

1056
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,280
like everybody's describing, you know, the same thing. But he's

1057
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,559
everything I've learned to kind of guide mine. I play

1058
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,719
so much golf, I just start seeing these dark lines

1059
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,199
and now I'm using your knowledge I'm currently learning to

1060
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,679
help me adjust that line. But really it all started

1061
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,039
with even before it's called target warning and golf. I

1062
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:59,840
mean that's how kids are doing that. They're already doing

1063
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,280
it children when they play right.

1064
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 5: How much golf do you get to play?

1065
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ever plays very much this year. But it's weird

1066
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,360
because I'm getting I'm playing the last golf and just

1067
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,800
from learning target orient and golf, I mean really feel

1068
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,360
like I'm getting better and better without playing golf. But

1069
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,440
that's a new experience for me. I used to feel

1070
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,039
like I had the balls for two weeks before I

1071
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,599
just get back to where I was. I never felt

1072
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:29,559
like I was getting any better. Now I feel like

1073
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,480
I don't catch a club for weeks and come home.

1074
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,880
I mean, I am enjoying it more. My wife has

1075
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,039
started playing, and I'm I'm just talking. What we talk

1076
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:42,960
about was target orient golf. She is playing better. She's

1077
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,079
broken fifty and she's doing She's probably only played twenty times.

1078
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,039
Speaker 5: She's broken white, so that's remarkable.

1079
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: She broke fifty. I'm nine holes. Wow. Okay, yeah, I

1080
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,119
mean from the ladies team, you know, but I mean.

1081
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:05,079
Speaker 1: We'll call those the fronties. Let's not be said, because

1082
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,400
I know guys that should be playing the front ties,

1083
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,719
but they're like, now they're the ladies.

1084
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,519
Speaker 5: He is, shut up.

1085
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: You still can't shoot part?

1086
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:11,639
Speaker 5: Just play there?

1087
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:16,559
Speaker 3: Yes? Well, and again shots are coming someone within a

1088
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:20,840
hunter yard anyway, right, So does it's irrelevant. It's basically like,

1089
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,440
do you want to hit a seven iron into the

1090
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,119
screen or a four iron or or maybe maybe you

1091
00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:28,800
know back in maybe it's a wood. So if you

1092
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,079
have a wood, you like it, you might as well

1093
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,320
play about TV your driver.

1094
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,639
Speaker 1: Right, nobody nobody wants to hit a Nobody wants to

1095
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,159
hit a four iron to the green. That's that's painful.

1096
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1097
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: Is there a a like a secret society of caddies

1098
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,360
that you guys have this little club going on, or

1099
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,519
because your buddies with JB, you guys just hang together

1100
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,519
the whole time and keep to yours Or are there

1101
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,199
things that you know that you do with other caddies.

1102
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,039
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'm not you know, I hang out with,

1103
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:16,800
you know, other caddies, just depending on who is going

1104
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,480
to be at each event. Some guys. You know, there's

1105
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,760
points in the year where I'm maybe going to a

1106
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,199
gym each week and working out, So there's caddies that

1107
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:29,039
maybe I'll see at the gym. But pretty much I

1108
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:33,880
hang out alone or with JB. Some with Patrick Sherry

1109
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,320
who caddies for Forrey Madison. We've stayed together sometimes, but

1110
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,679
mostly I'm I'm by myself with JB or sometimes my

1111
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,599
wife and a boy girl.

1112
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,599
Speaker 1: M Now your boys getting old though, He's gonna start

1113
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,000
going to school. That's gonna make it tough.

1114
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been. Yeah, he's been going to school. So

1115
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:52,440
through the year, you know, we just we do the

1116
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:56,400
best we can with what obstacles come up. So golf

1117
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,599
helps us understand that too.

1118
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,159
Speaker 1: So but okay, so now during a round or during

1119
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:05,719
a weekend, when you guys are playing and you're paired

1120
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,400
up with the same guy for a couple of days. Yeah,

1121
00:54:09,639 --> 00:54:11,599
what what goes on between the caddies?

1122
00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 3: Then?

1123
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: Are you guys communicating? You you have little side bets. Oh,

1124
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,679
I don't want to use the word bets, you know,

1125
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,360
you know, because you probably can't. But you got little

1126
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,440
games going on that you played between yourselves.

1127
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I've never I've never had any side bets

1128
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,440
or anything like that going on. We've not played, you know,

1129
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:31,760
any any short of games. I mean, we just we

1130
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,880
might talk, you know, and uh, there might be a

1131
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,400
couple of minutes, Uh we'll I'll be sitting on a

1132
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,159
te waiting and somebody will tell this a story or

1133
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:40,840
something else.

1134
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,119
Speaker 4: So that's that's been fun.

1135
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 3: But mostly it's just, uh, you know, you're you get

1136
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,800
in the moment and you're just you're working on you're

1137
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,920
doing you do everything the exact same to help you

1138
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,239
get into that zone. So we're just in there trying

1139
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,760
to get in the zone, you know, and so just

1140
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,679
as you know, it's if we can help each other

1141
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,920
rate bunkers if somebody's coming into some trouble or something,

1142
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,199
you know, and and kind of help in that regard

1143
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:14,159
getting the pan, wiping each other, the players ball off

1144
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,719
on the green, you know, if they just come out

1145
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,000
of the bunker and things like that. But now not

1146
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:21,360
a real you know, secret society or anything like that.

1147
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:23,320
We mostly there's so much money involved.

1148
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,199
Speaker 4: You know, these days, we don't even travel together.

1149
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,519
Speaker 3: I heard and you know, in years past, lots of

1150
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:31,239
caddies traveled together and drove together, but you know, anymore,

1151
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,119
it's just, uh, the game has changed so much. So

1152
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,119
much money is involved, you know what I mean.

1153
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:43,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so you're you're competing. You're competing too, I mean.

1154
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the sense really the name of our game

1155
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:49,000
is how good can you get your player to play? Really,

1156
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,320
you know what I mean, that's just it.

1157
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 5: So you're a coach without a coach here, that's what

1158
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:55,840
you are.

1159
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 3: You know, you're basically a coach. Someday he's a player

1160
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,840
needs something, you know, maybe a little bit different, they

1161
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,719
need it phrased a little bit different way, or they

1162
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,599
need more motivation. Some days they need less motivation, you know,

1163
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,079
some days just it's just reading your guy, I mean,

1164
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,039
which is great for me. I mean, Jabi and I

1165
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:16,360
grew up together. I mean, we really know each other

1166
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,079
and we just try to really use that to our advantage.

1167
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,559
Speaker 5: You know, so interesting.

1168
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: Are there things that you do that would help us?

1169
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,239
Like the first thing that comes to mind is like

1170
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:33,360
I've I've never been a big fan of tossing a

1171
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,400
couple blades of grass in the air to tell me

1172
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,159
what's going on with the wind. A I have trouble

1173
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,400
finding where the grass went when it does. But it

1174
00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:46,320
also I find that tossing grass, Okay, thet the wind

1175
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,760
is blowing in that direction, but it's not telling me

1176
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,840
is the wind swirling? Is it?

1177
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,039
Speaker 5: Is it going you know, hard.

1178
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,559
Speaker 1: Left to right?

1179
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 3: Is it? You know?

1180
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Are there other things that you have found that work

1181
00:56:57,559 --> 00:56:59,559
for you or you've seen other caddies do that?

1182
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,159
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's that's that's what I

1183
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,719
do every day. I just checked the forecast of the wind.

1184
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,480
There's a couple of different sides, you know, I might

1185
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,559
use the Weather Channel on it, and so it says,

1186
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,639
you know, south southeast, you know, and then there's another

1187
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,440
app I use. You're not allowed to use it during

1188
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,880
tournament play, but it's just that you know, the beginning

1189
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,719
of the day, primost wind gives you a wind direction

1190
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:24,760
and gives you the exact direction, like two hundred and

1191
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,320
forty degrees, you know, so if you want, like I'm

1192
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,119
a caddy, I'll use a compass. Most people aren't going

1193
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:32,039
to use a compass, so you just know it's south

1194
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,960
southwest and you figure out which way south southwest is.

1195
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,119
And when I'm playing at home now, just from being

1196
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:40,280
a caddy in my experiences, I know that in general

1197
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,519
the wind comes from south southwest. When I'm at home

1198
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:45,239
playing in Campbellsville, you know, it shifts in the morning

1199
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,320
it's in, so it's like an opposite direction. And then

1200
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,039
at about two o'clock at south southwest. So it's fun

1201
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:52,760
for me because I can hear it really far down

1202
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,599
wind on a few of these far formoles, so I like,

1203
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,119
you know, I just like those holes, so I like

1204
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:00,239
to play it about that time so I can catch win.

1205
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,159
It's like being a surfer. I talked to some tudle

1206
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:04,320
surf I've talked to surfers and they do the same

1207
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,159
thing with catching waves. I'm just doing it with wind

1208
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:13,639
and and what is the app again? Primos p r

1209
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:16,440
I ms primost wind.

1210
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:19,679
Speaker 1: Okay, good, well we'll remember to put that in the

1211
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:20,239
show notes.

1212
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:21,119
Speaker 3: And do you.

1213
00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 5: Hmm?

1214
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: So uh, you said you use a compass? Is that?

1215
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:30,079
Are you allowed to have one on the course.

1216
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: During We're allowed to change that, We're allowed. I check.

1217
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,440
I couldn't believe it, so I keep checking and asking

1218
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,280
you to get hired, me asking, But yeah, we're allowed

1219
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,559
to use a compass during a round. Seeing some caddies,

1220
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:39,960
you know at Bay Hill there was a guy who's

1221
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,119
the compass, so you know I use a compass, just

1222
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,840
uh in general south southwest. And then if you feel

1223
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,360
a swirl when you're playing, so you're throwing a grass,

1224
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,960
you're seeing these swirls, so you throw it the rest

1225
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,519
one time and it's blowing it to the left, and

1226
00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:54,079
you throw it up again, it's blowing it to the right.

1227
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,760
But if you know it's generally supposed to be down.

1228
00:58:57,679 --> 00:59:00,239
Unless you look at the tree tops and every thing

1229
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,199
is moving where the trees are the same direction, you

1230
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,800
can just tell a lot about the tree tops and

1231
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,239
just notice and then noticing how much of the tree

1232
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,599
is moving. If it's just believe you got a lot

1233
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:11,960
of win to worry about, and you can strike a

1234
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,960
golf ball well when is not really going to affect

1235
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,400
it anyway. But if you're seeing you know, the branches

1236
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:21,360
closer to the trunk start to move, you know, you're

1237
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,199
talking about some major wind. So you might want to

1238
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,920
play and you're trying to get to that spot you know,

1239
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,440
whether it's shipping or putting or whatever there below the

1240
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:30,480
hole in that funnel.

1241
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: That's what you're trying to do.

1242
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:33,199
Speaker 1: And is the flag helpful at all?

1243
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: I mean you can't. I just think if you're looking

1244
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,320
at the tree tops because unless you're gonna hit your

1245
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:44,199
golf ball, flag high all the way there, right like

1246
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,599
if you're looking up if you have trees around, But

1247
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,199
if you don't have any trees around, then yeah, you

1248
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:50,639
can look at the flag and you see it one

1249
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:52,440
hundred and fifty yards or two in yards away if

1250
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,760
it's blowing straight down and where you're standing it feels

1251
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,280
like it's blowing straight in. You know, in general, I

1252
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,000
would play with the flags doing because that's where the

1253
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:05,039
ball is losing speed. It comes off the face as

1254
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:06,840
all the speed so the wind's not really affecting it

1255
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:10,000
where you're standing anyway. It's when the ball loses speed

1256
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:11,599
that the wind starts to move it around.

1257
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed if anybody in the gallery is

1258
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,320
maybe smoking and you can see what the smoke is doing,

1259
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,599
is it's coming off their cigarette.

1260
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:22,599
Speaker 4: Or the Yeah, I'm looking.

1261
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at all all all of that smoking

1262
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,679
at the clubhouse or by the clubhouse, and you know

1263
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,800
that maybe they have a chimney with their cooking, and

1264
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,559
watching that smoke and watching the American flags, you know,

1265
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,920
the stadium, the stadium feet sometimes have flags. I'm looking

1266
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,599
at all of those, you know, comparing feeling what it

1267
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:42,280
feels like to me it's hitting me in the face,

1268
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,719
or coming off the right, checking checking, uh, you know,

1269
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,039
just the wind. Dire actually have a compass drawn in

1270
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:50,199
our book, so that's an easy way. It'll actually have

1271
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,639
to pull out a compass. Unles. I want the exact

1272
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:55,920
between employe degrees if I want to say it's helping

1273
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,599
off the right. But in general, you can look at

1274
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:00,639
the compass that I have drawn in the most people

1275
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:03,000
don't even know which way the golf course has turned.

1276
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:05,960
So just getting familiar with that would help people a lot. Sure,

1277
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,239
you know, because I mean it sounds like you're mainly

1278
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,320
talking You're not talking about people that play different places

1279
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,400
all the time, but just going out to normal club, Like, hey,

1280
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,679
do you know that you know has just win? Is

1281
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,000
this hole? Generally when you plays it down down went

1282
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:21,000
off the right, you know, or you know lots of

1283
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:23,119
different things. You know, playing before a storm is that

1284
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,840
you know, if there's a storm coming in your golf,

1285
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,440
one's going to go really far, you know, like I've been,

1286
01:01:29,079 --> 01:01:31,000
you're playing just up until they blow the horn or

1287
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:32,519
there's lightning, or you don't know if the storm is

1288
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:34,079
going to hit or miss. You know, but the temperature

1289
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:37,079
drops and he's been playing before and that happened, right, Yeah,

1290
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,119
Well the golf all goes further. So normally you hit

1291
01:01:40,119 --> 01:01:42,159
a seven iron, you know, from maybe one hundred and

1292
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:43,519
fifty yards or you know, I don't know how far

1293
01:01:43,519 --> 01:01:45,599
you hit a seven iron. You might want to bump

1294
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:47,239
it down to an eight, you know, especially if the

1295
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,199
players to be short. That's the first question. You want

1296
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:50,920
to be long and short here, they want to be

1297
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,920
long and short, and then you can make an assessment

1298
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,079
from there. If there's a storm coming in, your hate

1299
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:57,519
iron is going to go pretty far because the baron

1300
01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,840
had pressure tends to drop, you know.

1301
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: M so, but yeah, well you so, like you and

1302
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,159
JB grew up in the South, so you're very used

1303
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:11,360
to humid weather. I would think, So, do you maybe

1304
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:15,079
perhaps carry some talcum or some baby powder in your

1305
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,320
bag so that you can keep your hands a little

1306
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,000
drier and then when you clap your hands and to

1307
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,719
get the powder off, you'll see a little puff of

1308
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,480
that blowing around.

1309
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's smart.

1310
01:02:29,119 --> 01:02:30,639
Speaker 3: We don't but yeah, you know exactly.

1311
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if you kept some talcolm powder in your

1312
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,480
bag to do that to dry off his hands, if

1313
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,519
somebody would like not, that's illegal, you can't use it.

1314
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 5: It's like, what about drying my hands?

1315
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: Dude, leave me alone?

1316
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, we would, Yeah, we would check everything

1317
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,440
if we make any changes to our you're basically just

1318
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:49,800
talking about a change in routine. The right thing that

1319
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,920
we're gonna shire. We're going to make sure that you know,

1320
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,719
we're checking the rules community at the beginning, and we

1321
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:56,159
need to make sure that that's okay. Us a rain

1322
01:02:56,199 --> 01:02:59,320
grip for the reason that black strip that he uses,

1323
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,760
you know, basically it's because of the humidity and everything.

1324
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,679
You just you go through those leather grips as fast. Uh,

1325
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,039
this material that they make the rain grips out of,

1326
01:03:08,199 --> 01:03:11,079
which is smart and you don't have to change grips

1327
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:13,119
throughout the day. Gloves.

1328
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,079
Speaker 1: How many gloves and how many gloves in a h

1329
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,880
in a weekend?

1330
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:17,719
Speaker 5: Will he go through.

1331
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,639
Speaker 3: One to day really like he's one to day just

1332
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:24,559
a new glove each day. Yeah hmm.

1333
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:26,679
Speaker 5: And let's see, we'll listen.

1334
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: We know, next time you play, I want I want

1335
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,280
you to. I want you to really if you like

1336
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,559
this idea, I want you to consider having some talking

1337
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:36,880
with you and if he and if he uses it,

1338
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,599
when when he slaps his hand and look over to

1339
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:42,679
a camera and wink, and then you will know, we'll

1340
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:43,800
know that it was from us.

1341
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 3: Well, and then some of the other thing. Now we're

1342
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,119
you know, differentage. Everybody has some sort of technology, whether

1343
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:53,920
it's on their watch or a range bonder, you know

1344
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:58,199
for a GPS, whatever it is they use. Just start

1345
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:03,079
some sort of how far your golf ball actually goes.

1346
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:07,199
That'll help people out so much because if you ask somebody, well,

1347
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:09,760
how far is your seven iron? How far are you

1348
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,760
that you're seven iron. They'll say a general number like

1349
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,960
you know, one fifty five whatever, one fifty some people

1350
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:18,960
one a whatever. Well, when you start playing, and when

1351
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:21,320
you do that, the fetes fast hold you a driver

1352
01:04:21,519 --> 01:04:23,039
there a five iron, I had two in the yards,

1353
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:26,320
I had a five iron. I had two hundred two

1354
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,199
the pen, and I have a ball mark next to

1355
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,519
the whole. It flew two hundred yards, but it probably didn't.

1356
01:04:33,519 --> 01:04:35,440
It's more like one ninety. And I was trying to

1357
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,079
be short, so just trying to notice and then write

1358
01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:40,360
that down like five iron one ninety. That's that's the

1359
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,360
biggest difference that tour guys have that well, they have

1360
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,480
a caddy. So that's that's one of the things I do,

1361
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,800
right down how far he hits every shot, how far

1362
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,119
the ball flew in the air, So even in the

1363
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:51,880
fair way, if I can find a ball mark where

1364
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,239
his driver landed. And we had three twenty five to

1365
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,679
cover a bunker and then covered about ten steps, I

1366
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,440
knew that ball flew three thirty five. All right, drivers

1367
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,679
very top, you know, and then we know if it's

1368
01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:06,360
running out how far hot did it run out? Twenty yards?

1369
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,239
They run out thirty yards, Like, what is the ball

1370
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,800
generally doing the name of the game is moving your

1371
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,599
golf ball around this course. So knowing how far you

1372
01:05:15,679 --> 01:05:18,559
hit it is very important and people don't yep.

1373
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:23,199
Speaker 1: Very important, very important. Yeah, there's a there's a product

1374
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,079
out now. There's a product out now called game Golf

1375
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,519
that I know that Have you seen it?

1376
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I saw it. I just couldn't understand why you

1377
01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:33,039
wouldn't just write it down.

1378
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you. It's interesting because I know that

1379
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,199
Lee Westwood, Graham McDowell, and now Jim Furika are using it.

1380
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,119
I actually played golf with the CEO of the company

1381
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:49,440
last week and I did a video that's going to

1382
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,440
be coming up and an episode's going to be coming

1383
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,760
up with him soon. It for me writing down I

1384
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,400
don't have the wherewithal to write down every shot and

1385
01:05:59,519 --> 01:06:01,519
what how or it went and what it did. But

1386
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,079
when I take when I use this thing and I

1387
01:06:04,199 --> 01:06:05,519
take it off at the end of the round and

1388
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:07,639
I plug it into my computer, it gives me all

1389
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:13,039
that information and it gives me statistics. It's really helped

1390
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:15,719
my game and what it where it's helped my game

1391
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,880
more is showing me where my holes are. In my

1392
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,840
game and what I should be working on. I think

1393
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:22,119
I think it's a great product.

1394
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.

1395
01:06:24,039 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk more about that soon in the upcoming episodes.

1396
01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:31,119
Hey Brandon, this has been a long time. I know

1397
01:06:31,199 --> 01:06:33,119
you've got to get back on the road because you've

1398
01:06:33,159 --> 01:06:35,800
got things to do. I really appreciate your time.

1399
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm George talking so anytime.

1400
01:06:40,159 --> 01:06:42,519
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and best of luck to you

1401
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:46,480
and JB. Safe travels. Of course, have a great time

1402
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,760
at the Open Championship, and I would love to catch

1403
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,920
up with you maybe after the season, maybe we can

1404
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,079
try to get together again and and and hear how

1405
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:55,840
things went for you.

1406
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much. I was a part of talking.

1407
01:06:58,599 --> 01:06:59,760
Thanks for having me on your joff