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Speaker 2: We're here, but work's going crazy. Our website was down

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Speaker 3: Folks work in the emails like strong bad.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Yes, dude, shout out all the strong bad

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people out there. Welcome to the clips and dip live. Hang.

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We apologized for our last YouTube video not uploading. That

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was completely out of our hands, and I would argue

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not our fault in any way. No, not at all,

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Speaker 3: Not anyone here at least to make me go after

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the US Post Office again. No, it had nothing to

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do technical issues. Happens.

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Speaker 2: It happens. Not a whole bunch of to really talk about.

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We're gonna talk about Adam's club over country feelings with

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France and Team USA playing tomorrow at twelve thirty. If

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you're in the chat and you just want to send

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us questions, we're answering them. How you guys feeling How

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this is really the dole drums of Clippers offseason right now?

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Right this is where aside from Nick Patoom and some

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Rico Heines run stuff, we're gonna talk about how y'all

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do it will? I know last episode you were very

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settled into the off season.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm doing great. Uh you know, watching

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my movies, eating my popcorn, you know, having having having

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a good summer. Uh No, it's it's a weird time

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we are with the three of us are going to

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an intuit domb tour, which Adam have you? Have you

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been before already or is this gonna be your first

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time too?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Into a dumb version going on Sunday with you guys

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all right? Looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I'm incredibly excited. I hope we get to hoop on

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the community court because that thing looks awesome and I

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just want footage of destroying Adam on the low block?

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Are we Adam?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Are you? Are you? I'm excited for into it as well.

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First visit? Should we all carpool? Adam? You're coming from

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the valley? Do you want to check this up?

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Speaker 3: That sounds good.

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Speaker 2: I can do that. We can claim bake the car

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on the way there. How Adam, what do you think

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has happened in the Gold Medal? Do you think France

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has a shot? I think they're getting ran out of

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the crowd. Will be hype, which will be very cool

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to see both both men's and women's basketball finals for

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the first time in history. Is USA versus France as like?

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And USA versus the host country? I don't know. I

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got the US by like, I got the US by

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ten plus.

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Speaker 3: I think they kind of got scared straight. They're scared

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straight more episode or whatever, or they're up against the

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wall and the drill sergeant's going after the kids and

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trying to put them back on the straight and narrow.

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That's probably what they got with that close up a

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game against Serbia where they were down seventeen and had

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to scratch and claw their way to victory an exciting fashion.

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Noah Ego on the call, by the way, was brilliant

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down the stretch and even nailed something that nobody was

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bringing up. It was eight eight twenty four, and he

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said at the end, I guess job not done. A

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little nod to Kobe Bryant there. Pretty cool on that

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day because they still got a gold medal game to play.

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Speaker 2: But and do you know the significance of tomorrow's date,

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because everyone's lost their mind kind of with Kobe numbers.

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It's on eight ten twenty four and ten.

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Speaker 3: Was his Olympic number.

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Speaker 2: Olympic number which everyone of course remembers.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he had a big fourth quarter apology guy against

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I mean, there's an awesome movie with Jim Carrey. No,

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I'm just kidding. He was great for them down the

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stretch against Spain, where I may have been rooting for

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Spain in eight against Team USA maybe just a little

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bit in that ball game.

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Speaker 2: Bro where what what is this this?

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Speaker 3: I root for the underdogs. I like the Gassoul Brothers.

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I like Fricky Rubio.

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Speaker 2: You know what I like more the soil I'm standing on.

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Speaker 3: Brother, there's some fracking going on with this. I can't.

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I look. The only reason I'm.

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Speaker 2: Doing this, Guys, that's a sick jersey, by the way

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I do. If you're on the live stream, you have

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to get this is genuinely one of the cooler jerseys

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I think you can have is the batom France jersey.

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We believe it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a batomb France jersey. And it's only because

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man of my word. Sticking with what I said, if

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he came back to the Clippers, I would root for

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France even if they played Team USA. I didn't know

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it would be a gold medal game. I didn't know

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it'd end up like this. I thought it could be

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an exhibition game. I thought maybe Germany, maybe who else.

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Speaker 1: How did you think it would not be a gold

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medal game?

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Speaker 3: Because they could have met along the way. I didn't

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know what bracket? Will they bracket them? They could have

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Speaker 1: Did you look at the bracket before making this decision?

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Speaker 3: There was no bracket. This was back in June or

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something when I said this may my god, what do

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you want from me?

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Speaker 2: What do we expect from Nico in this game? Because

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that's I mean, I think the US winning will What

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are you excited to see from Nico tomorrow? I mean

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other than the no dip threes because we all love

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those twelve eight and three. Ooh, mark it down, dude.

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If Nico gets twelve eight and three, I cannot think

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of a better way to head into the the kind

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of preseason type stuff and that's eight blocks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Buttombo's showing up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait right down batoombo. Right now, do we have.

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Speaker 3: We I've been saying that on the right over you Okay, great, Okay,

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no Eagle has used batumbo.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Block tomb Mount Batumbo, though, is tough.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one, Adam. What do you expect from

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Bajim other than twelve assists, eight blocks and three points.

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Speaker 3: Well, if they're gonna win, he is gonna have to

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not just do the little things. He's probably gonna have

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to knock down four or five threes because Team USA

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is gonna be well prepared and ready. They ain't come

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this far just to lose to France.

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Speaker 2: But or did they? Well, they all just they just

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protest the game. There's like, we respect Miko so much.

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Speaker 3: They know how good Wemby is, they know how good

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go Bet can be when he's on the court and

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actually being a plus out there. There's always a discrepancy

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regarding that how much he really helps the team against

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certain matchups. But I just I don't They looked a

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little bit discombobulated early on against Serbia, who, granted was

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red hot from the outside and some of those shots

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were really well contested. There's nothing you can do about

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that when Bogie is going off like.

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Speaker 2: That, as we've seen well defended shots go in and

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been on the wrong side of those before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a heater that Serbia was on. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Points, correct, and you go for six from three to two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had some bad looks in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's our year and about baby.

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Speaker 3: I think that is as close as they will get

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to losing a ball game, obviously in this tournament, big

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down seventeen. They'll come out, play hard and probably put

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their foot on the gas early against France and not

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let it be as close as a game as we

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Speaker 2: Hey, maybe Tatum will even get some minutes. That'd be crazy.

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We have to talk about it, dude. It's so funny

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because it's like, just let them win the gold medal,

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Like this is such a lie there.

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Speaker 1: Look if they were losing, I think the critics is fair.

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Jason Tatum. Like they never said like you're gonna have

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a leading role or anything. Didn't he miss like three

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out of four of the days of the training.

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Speaker 2: Game or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't I can't talk about this anymore.

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Speaker 2: I can't hear about it anymore. Do you think Kawhi

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would have gotten similar?

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Speaker 3: Hey, talk about that Sweet you put out there when

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TBSA was that big, that Kawhi Sweet Chuck, because I

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was kind of thinking about it, you know, you know

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they could use right now in the periven I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean Kawhi's game for for Foeba, I think translates well,

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He's gigantic, he defends well, and he crushes it in

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the mid range. So that seems kind of to be Foeba,

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you know, adjacent.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't shy away from the physicality that plays into

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his hand. That's typically why he's been so good in

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the playoffs. It's not like Kevin Durant has been bad.

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But I do feel like Kawhi Leonard that physicality that

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occurs in the playoffs and things change a little bit there,

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and the way refs call it, that works for Kawhi.

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while Kevin Durant's more finesse on that side. And by

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the way, like I don't want to we've talked about

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it plenty. We'll just said it. But you know, then

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making the decision to not bring Kawhi Leonard, well, Kevin

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Durant doesn't play at all in the exhibition games. To me,

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it does look more political now when I see the

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commercial with Dion Sanders narrating a Kevin Durant Olympics commercial

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and the fact that he was I didn't realize he

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was about to be the all time leader scoring wise

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coming into these Olympics. That's why he was never going

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to be left off the team.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that was the point I brought up.

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I understand the Nike thing, and I think that that's

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you know, fair. I of course it probably has played

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some role, but like he has the history with Team USA, like,

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of course that guy is going to get the spot,

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like you know, like, why why would he not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's something everybody could celebrate. Ah, he's the

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all time leading scorer women's Olympic basketball. It's Kevin Durant

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with that title now, so you know, and he did

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play well in the fourth quarter against Serbia.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. We the clip of Mellow yelling at him

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to just go with that guy was, I mean an

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all time Team USA clips.

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Speaker 3: And then Noah, the cross, the sauce, the splash on

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the jumper.

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Speaker 2: I like this. This question from x Mango Project Pat

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Bev said, Kawhi works too hard and that's why he

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gets injured. Are we worried about that? We've heard about

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some of the off season stuff from Kahi, Like guys

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who've gotten to work out with him in San Diego say,

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it's like brutal, right, Like it's like heat West, you know,

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it's like the Miami Heat West type stuff. Will How

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do you feel about the idea that maybe training too

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hard is something that could deteriorate Kawhi heading into this season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very real thing at this point.

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I just think it's you know, like it's accumulated Miles.

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I do think, you know, it's one of those things

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that is the reason why he got to the place

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that he has been, why he is the player that

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he is. So it's kind of a double.

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Speaker 2: Edged sword with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he you know, clearly takes a lot of

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pride in that preparation and that's what it takes for

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him to be, you know, a top five, top ten player.

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Miles at this point. You know, like I think that

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he might as well just stick whatever is going to

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make like is whatever is going to make him the

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most comfortable. I don't know, like, yeah, maybe taking it

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of course, but it's you know, I don't know that

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like reinventing the wheel is going to guarantee a different outcome.

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problems for a guy who's you know, been very methodical

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it's yeah, like I said, it's a double edged sword.

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of player that he is. Obviously he has a certain

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type of personality that makes him in client to perform

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that way. So yeah, I mean, I guess if he

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could take it fifteen percent easier that that'd be great.

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But at this point, you know, with that knee, like,

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I gotta be real, man, the damage is done. Like

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it's not you know, you're not wrong, It's not like,

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you know, unless he underwent some sort of constructive surgery

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that they opted to just not tell anybody about. You know,

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it's the damage is done. It's it's really just trying

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to mitigate that. And I think a big part of that,

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I mean obviously overuse is an issue, but like him

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actually feeling comfortable on that knee is going to be

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the biggest thing, Like what is going to help him

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alleviate pain? And if that's you know, being ready through

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training at game speed, then that's just kind of what

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we have to accept at this point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I concur with pretty much everything will said there.

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It's this is what has got him to this level.

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To take away the maniacal ability, he has to practice

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as hard as he does to be that methodical. And

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by the way, he doesn't play five on five during

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the summer, so he doesn't go quite as hard during

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the grind of a regular season, maybe for that reason,

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to hold something back because he doesn't want as much

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tread off the tires. So I think Kawhi has been

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going about it the right way. It's just been unfortunate injuries.

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For instance, he usually starts the season off slow. He

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kind of eases his way in. I thought Paul George,

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I think we all did, was the better player the

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first month of last season. Obviously kawhis not long after. Yeah,

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And Kawhi just eases his way in and then clicks

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in and takes over at some point but I don't

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think it's overuse. I don't think it's anything like that

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with what he's doing over the summer that's leading to

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all these injuries. I think it's just you know, bad

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injury luck, and he's had too many to his right

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knee right now to where there's a higher level of concern,

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understandably from everyone.

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Speaker 2: He was working out for. You see, there was a

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photo of him in the USC coach So it's like

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he is workouts in, which is good.

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Speaker 1: What's our you also like you have to be a

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masochist to be that goody. It's it's just part of

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the thing. I mean, like, you know, you can't congratulate

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the Kobe thing and then like you know, like saying, oh,

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but Kawhi, like shouldn't try as hard, Like I think

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that's a pretty silly thing, Like to be that good,

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to be one of the five best players in the league,

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the best player in the league at times, like you're

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a masochist, Like it's it's just a different level.

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Speaker 2: You have sick thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Sick thoughts prove me wrong.

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Speaker 3: It's it would be weird to get to a point

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where people are criticizing a player for practicing too much.

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I don't want to go there.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely no, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you should

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just start yoga. That's my only thing. If he's not

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doing yoga, maybe just start doing.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's definitely doing yoga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: What was that yoga sol coal guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got yoga vibes.

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Speaker 3: Whatever he was drinking that he called the goat juice

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in Hawaii. I don't know if that was last year,

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the year before. Maybe get back to some of that. Yeah,

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it looked green, it looked healthy. It wasn't John a

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juice golfing. Yeah, Paul was just an Palmer. Arnold Palmer

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is the goat juice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think it's just Arnold Palmer.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not a bad drink either.

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Speaker 2: I'm drinking of John Daily, which is an Arnold Palmer

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with alcohol in it, currently on the happy hour stream.

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Speaker 3: I figured that was just a long Island.

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Speaker 2: Then no, Long Island is five different kinds of hard

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alcohol and then a splash of coat.

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Speaker 3: John Daly is not an Audios mother effort.

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Speaker 2: No, those are so much worse. Yeah, I don't know.

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I'm my confidence in Kawhi, like the tm us anything.

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Obviously It's scary when anytime Kawhi gets sent home from

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a playing environment. But I'm feeling pretty good, like we

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we haven't seen anything. I don't care what Si Bayles says.

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I just I just don't. But I'm feeling good where

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we're at as of five nineteen pm on August ninth,

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in Kauhi's ability to contribute to this not quite contending

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Clippers team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I have questions. I have concerns. How can

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you not be with Kawhi? I wonder how long was

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it swollen. We're never going to find out that answer.

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We're never gonna find out if there was a significant

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procedure going on, because Laurence Frank clarified and made that

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distinction at the press conference whether or not, you know

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it was as serious of a procedure, and therefore if

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that was the case, they'd have to report it, or

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they would report it. Nothing's been reported. So if something

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was done with Kawhi Leonard on that right knee to

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get the swelling down, it was something less invasive, let's

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say so. I but we're not gonna know. I think

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until we get ten games into the regular season, are

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they going all the way back to where he's never

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playing a back to back this year. Most people have

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guessed that at this point.

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Speaker 2: I hope so I don't want him to play back

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to him, there's no reason for Kawhi to play back

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to backs this year if any guys are.

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Speaker 1: Over the age of like twenty five, I gotta be honest,

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I don't really see the point.

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Speaker 3: Well, if anyone should be exempt from some of that

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criticism because he has tried, it is not worked. He

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has tried to power through it. Guys. He has tried

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to beat the load management allegations and apparently it's not

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good for his body. If anybody should be able to

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get a little bit of leeway on that at this point,

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it's Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that. Like at this point right now,

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could you blame Kawhi for taking some time off and

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back to back like the man is hurt.

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Speaker 3: It's not the allegations of he just doesn't love basketball,

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he doesn't care enough. All that is garbage. It has

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been proven at this point. It has nothing to do

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with that he played almost seventy games this past season

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and finally his right knee apparently hit the wall. Because

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we also don't even know if there was a certain

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tweak on the court that did it against Charlotte on

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March thirty first, or if it was just an accumulation,

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a build up of all the wear and tear over

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the course of a season where he was as driven

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and locked in and dialed in as we've really ever

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seen him. Remember all the postgame pressers where he would say,

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I'm trying to take this team to a place they'd

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never been. That's what Kawhi Leonard was on this year.

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You know, Matt Moore and I got into a debate

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recently regarding his leadership versus Paul George Show. I well, so,

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Clippers Talk has been a podcast for some time, for

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like seven years. I just started up a YouTube account

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for it. It's still that follow out of Bay for now.

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If you want to check it out, It's Clippers Talk,

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but with a visual there. It's a vodcast. But you know,

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the leadership? Is that what they call it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that something that was called? Was that ten years ago?

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They called it that?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Did I miss the vote?

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Speaker 2: Podcast? Dude?

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Speaker 3: A visual repation, A visual representation of a podcast. You

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could see us just like you do here and it's

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a good time. But you know, Kawhi's leadership I felt

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was pretty strong in this past year. I felt he

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was more vocal than we had seen in his Clippers

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tenures so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. And now he gets to

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kind of we're going to talk about James Harden taking

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some of the young guys Jerico Hines, which I thought

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was a cool kind of older vet move in a bit.

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But I do want to get to this hilarious question

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from Ghost who says I haven't been on social media

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in a few weeks. First of all, good for you, Ghost,

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keep not being on social media and your wife will

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probably be better. Is it true we're trading for Ben Simmons. No,

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it is not true. I don't know where you saw that,

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but I cannot imagine a move that would make it

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would divide Clippers Nation more than trading for Ben Simmons. Okay, well,

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bullets and PJ Ben Simms then maybe signed me up.

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But I don't think we're trading a flyer, dude, and

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it would be it would be a flyer, uh.

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Speaker 3: For him or Robert Williams like we talked about last week.

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You know, I'm okay with those guys moving for someone

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like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather have Robert Williams.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't rather have PJ. Tucker.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have a broken Fax machine than PJ Tucker

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on this team. Fast Uh shar Celicio uh said, do

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we need Norms scoring in the starting lineup? Which is

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a question we're gonna get asked.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot that's an interesting question with Terrence Man,

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Derek Jones Junior and a.

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Speaker 2: Vitza zu Bots.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've all talked about how I think a

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lot of this is really going to depend on how

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Zoo is featured in the offense, because I'm expecting the

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offense to to have a little bit of a different

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look this year. Uh, like we saw at times last year,

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and certainly like with Harden running the show.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: There there is you know, a bigger opportunity for Zoo

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if they kind of fall back into their old ways

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and he's forgotten about iced out.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I do think that that is that that could be

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a real possibility, uh, unless you see some sort of

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massive offensive development from either Derrek Jones Junior or or

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or Terrence. But I think like the what seems like

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the most realistic answer. Likely answer is is having zoo

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uh fill a bigger role on the offensive end. I

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just I you know, I'm ready to see it. I

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just don't know if that's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tightly ready to do it. Is the thing.

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My thing with Norm Norman James Harden as you're starting

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backcourt is maybe the worst defensive starting backcourt in the

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league or close to it, right, like Norm, that's not

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that's a lot of work to ask. What I'm assuming

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would be Derek Jones Junior at the three, Kui at

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the four at the five. Like having two. I love

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what they do offensively, and Harden is a better defender

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than Norm. Norm is good in space kind of is

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a free safety, but like on ball perimeter defensive for

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those two guys are in the back court. I I

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know we have a defensive mindset, but I'd like that

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defensive mindset more. If it's hardening Terrence first putting that

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much pressure on Derek Jones Junior two to be like,

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you gotta you gotta make up for both of these

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guys ahead of you positioning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just if two of the five guys starting

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are negative defenders, can are negatives. Can you even have

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a defensive mindset? I don't care how good the other

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three guys are. If your point of it's.

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Speaker 1: It's a mindset at them. It's not necessarily a practice,

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it's a it's a mindset, just like gymnastics.

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Speaker 2: Just like Olympic gymnastics is eighty five percent mental. You

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just got to commit. It's the same as basketball. It's

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the same as defense in NBA basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's I just I don't know if it's going to

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cross their bne to play defense. If there's two guys

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like that on the perimeter to start every game. We

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want to see them come out with some identity and

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form it early on because I think that's the only

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way they're going to be able to survive this season.

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There can't be this moving target of who we are

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as a team like we've seen over the past couple

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of years. Maybe Paul George contributed to some of that,

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but I still think this Clippers team is best served

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leaning into defense and then hoping when James Harden and

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Kawhi Leonard are both available, you can still be around

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a top ten offense no matter who is next to

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those guys because of how talented they are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call. And Norm on the bench too, Like,

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so if Norm's starting, who's scoring off that bench? Because

475
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Chris Dunn is the backup point guard.

476
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Speaker 1: And he's not, I think it would mean Kevin Porter

477
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Junior probably has a larger role.

478
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Speaker 2: Tru the Laquipper subreddit seems to think that Kevin Porter

479
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,440
Junior is going to play thirty minutes a night.

480
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Speaker 1: I am surprised. Like I'm looking at ESPN's death chart

481
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and they have him third up in the death chart

482
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at guard, which I'm just I mean, look, I would

483
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I don't know. I don't know how that's gonna go.

484
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Speaker 2: I think that makes sense. They sign Chris don to

485
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a bigger deal. He's played NBA basketball more sooner frequently.

486
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I don't know. But we will see, because the talent,

487
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we'll see.

488
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Speaker 3: We wait, We have to wait for the investigation. Here, guys,

489
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not not you guys, the guys on reddit.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

491
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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got on my investigation. I've sent in my findings.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they always keep coming back. Anytime I send him in,

493
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they keep coming back. Miles Johnson, listen, listen. Miles Johnson

494
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,279
with a uh, down the road question, if we don't

495
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:05,039
make the play in, what happened? And what do you

496
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:08,160
think the Clippers offseason would look like? The Clippers don't

497
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make the play in one May, one or two major

498
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,640
contributors missed at least twenty five games, is my guess.

499
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And we didn't get a jump from Terrence Man. We

500
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didn't get a commitment to zoom or on the offense,

501
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,200
you know what I mean. Like, I think kind of

502
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a lot of things have to go wrong to not

503
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make the play in the play in as a whole.

504
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Speaker 1: So finishing like we're saying, not lose and make it

505
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into the playoffs, you're saying finish eleven.

506
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Speaker 2: Finish in the play in is what I'm taking this

507
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question as.

508
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Speaker 1: Oh, I think we could very well finish in the plan.

509
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I would be much more surprised at the alternative of

510
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finishing eleventh. And then, Yeah, I think for sure it's

511
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like you said.

512
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Speaker 2: Kawhi, bad things have happened.

513
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Speaker 1: Kawhi doesn't look like himself when he does play and

514
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plays you know, I don't know fifty.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah games, Terrence doesn't take the job. Like I think,

516
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,079
a lot of things which is good in this hypothetic,

517
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,480
Like a lot of things have to go wrong for

518
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the Clippers to not make them plan Adam your thoughts.

519
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Overall, it probably means, yes, Kawhi

520
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is missing thirty plus games.

521
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Speaker 2: Harden's probably missing some time too. In this scenario, I.

522
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Speaker 3: Think Harden's out for twenty plus games. But also I

523
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know we do this every year, but this is the

524
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year where it looks more formidable in the West than

525
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any I've seen the while. We've talked about it, but

526
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how many of these teams are actually getting worse? If

527
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you want to identify a team that's noticeably should be

528
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,920
getting worse, most would probably point to the Clippers because

529
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,599
they lost Paul George Yea like, okay, Seeds not getting worse. Okay,

530
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maybe they're not going to be the one seed, but

531
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I would take them to win it.

532
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Speaker 2: Again exactly nothing.

533
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Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets aren't going to get significant worse.

534
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Speaker 2: I'm worried about Jamal.

535
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Speaker 3: Because he wouldn't get to SGA.

536
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Speaker 2: I think is I think his Okay, I like, and

537
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I mean this like it sucks, like I think he's

538
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he's lost something from that injury.

539
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Speaker 3: That could be the case, but I still would have

540
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,599
them top five. A bum now so he's been exposed

541
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to the world.

542
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Speaker 2: Has even beat Team USA.

543
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Speaker 3: He had Bogey. What else do you want? Man get

544
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,000
him some help. But the Pelicans could be better. They

545
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,839
could get a healthier season from Zion Phoenix with their

546
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Big three. I would think is gonna gell a little

547
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,680
bit better. Dallas isn't gonna be significantly worse. Sacramento can

548
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,880
get better. Obviously they have DeMar DeRozan. Now Golden State

549
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,240
could be maybe they're around the same. But then you

550
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,559
have Houston, you have Utah that's sticking with market and

551
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:58,279
he's not going anywhere. And the Memphis Grizzlies worthy two

552
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,640
seed just to Cason removed from being the two seed

553
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,000
and now they're getting healthy again and Joss coming back,

554
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,920
and San Antonio is definitely gonna be better. Outside the

555
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,599
Portland trail Blazers, there just aren't many walkovers, so they

556
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,519
could be in a battle if things don't go well. Sure,

557
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,480
just trying to get into the plane to point the question.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's well, there's also like there's more qui I mean,

559
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there's obviously more question marks this year on top of

560
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the normal question marks. That's the biggest question mark being

561
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Kawaisu have they. Oh, here we go. We're gonna take

562
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actually a quick audio break, real quick, and then we're

563
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gonna come back. This is strictly for audio. If you

564
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missed the the live hang we're gonna put this out

565
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on audio. Everyone in the chat, thank you for hanging out.

566
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Always a good time. We're gonna come back in three

567
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to two one on audio. All right, we're back in. Hey,

568
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,720
how's it going. We're hanging out here on a live

569
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,279
stream if you're if you're not watching, we're over at

570
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:04,920
YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. We're not streaming

571
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,400
on Twitter anymore. Uh not not our choice. That wasn't

572
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,599
Uh that came that came down from above us. But

573
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anyways for Shizzle, but Dizzel wants to know have they

574
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given up on trading Bones until the All Star break?

575
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Could we see Bones at one and done at two

576
00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,799
off the bench starting next year. I'm gonna start with

577
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,920
the second part of this question, and I think that

578
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,000
that's a no. I don't think there's any way that

579
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,839
Bones has in the off season vaulted to be one

580
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,839
of the you know, first two guards off the bench.

581
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Did you see what the ball don't stop pro am

582
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did did. I did.

583
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Speaker 1: I saw the highlights.

584
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,079
Speaker 2: I liked it. I just don't.

585
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,119
Speaker 1: I am still struggling to see him having a future

586
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:46,680
with this team, even if he is on the roster.

587
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Speaker 2: I would be I would be shocked. I would be shocked.

588
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,680
He's not running, he's not running the backup offense. I

589
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:58,519
love this guy. I wish I you know, I used

590
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:00,440
to be a skeleton keyholder, got a new key chain.

591
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,640
But I don't. I just don't. I don't see it happening,

592
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,519
which sucks. He should have been. There's a lot of

593
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,559
things to talk. Once Bones is off the team, we

594
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:13,440
can really get into how the Clippers kind of completely

595
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:16,279
mismanaged having a young guy who was second team All Rookie.

596
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That's not for now, but.

597
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean second team All Rookie. That's just that's

598
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not that's nothing.

599
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Speaker 2: There's potential, but there's he's the best young guy the

600
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Clippers have had, Like they had never had a rookie

601
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,000
who was that at least competent of basketball.

602
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Speaker 3: I would have felt better about him being the backup

603
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,759
point guard over Russell Westbrook last year exactly.

604
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Speaker 1: But that's all that we all talked about that. But

605
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:41,519
you know, if if if IF's and butts were candies

606
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and nuts or.

607
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Speaker 2: Whatever, then every day would be Christmas. Adam, what do

608
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880
you think you're you carved with the skeleton key? As

609
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far as I'm concerned.

610
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to talk too many hypotheticals. Apparently

611
00:30:54,799 --> 00:31:00,440
have some bus but uh, trading bones until all start.

612
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,920
Like Chris Dunn does open up some possibilities because he

613
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,079
can play the two. Yeah, he doesn't have to have

614
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,519
the ball in his hands. He can be a backup

615
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,200
Patrick Beverly type of guy. If he's seventy five percent

616
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:15,119
of what Patrick Beverly was in his Clippers career and

617
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,279
he's coming off the bench and help solidifying and keeping

618
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,880
that you know, transition of I guess a line shift

619
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from the starters to the backups and holding on to

620
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that identity of being a defensive ball club. That would

621
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be huge. Just Chris Donne being a leader there.

622
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Speaker 2: Funny story, he played twenty eight percent of his minutes

623
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,960
at shooting guard last year, the third highest of his career.

624
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So that that is there. But I think the bones

625
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,920
question is the biggest part of the bones. The bones

626
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,279
issue is the biggest part of this.

627
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Speaker 3: Do you think they can realistically get back two seconds

628
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
right now for Bones with the question, I think because

629
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,599
if they could, he'd probably be out by now.

630
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,519
Speaker 1: No, I think, I know. I think that he's become

631
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,000
like the one second that you would get in exchange

632
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000
for taking on the PJ. Tucker contract. Who's kind of

633
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,200
where he's at right now.

634
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: So then is it gonna be an issue of are

635
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,160
we better just not having them in camp? Are we

636
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,519
better just not having guys who are going to be

637
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,799
limited with their playing time going into the season and

638
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,319
the vibes aren't gonna be there in Hawaii if they're

639
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,160
on the team, maybe.

640
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,119
Speaker 1: That's the bigger thing, like are they going to be

641
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,160
malcontens because that it seems like that was honestly the

642
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,000
bigger issue before was that there's I mean, it just

643
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
seems like with Bones especially, I mean I don't think

644
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:41,920
that there's doubt necessarily of the talent level. It just

645
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,599
seems like interpersonally, there's something going on there that's not

646
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400
It's like it's not jiving with the powers that be.

647
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: And Bones hasn't been consistent. He's made like forty three percent.

648
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:53,559
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I mean, I do think that,

649
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:56,240
like I think that, like I think that whatever it

650
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,279
is that's going on, because I can't you know, I

651
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:01,400
don't know. I don't have any like in like interior

652
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,799
knowledge of the follow bones right, yeah, of course, uh

653
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,440
you know around stocking around, but you know, like whatever

654
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,079
that is, like whatever that like what seemingly is like

655
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:16,200
a personal or personality uh clash going on there. It

656
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200
does seem to be affecting his production.

657
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Speaker 2: On the court. Yeah, I mean he's a thirty nine

658
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,400
point eight percent shooter in his time in the pros.

659
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,519
Speaker 3: How many threes those he take? Like his field goal

660
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,720
percentage shot distribution, it probably leans pretty heavy on a

661
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:34,200
lot of those shots are threes.

662
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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, he is a thirty six point shooter.

663
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,599
Speaker 3: So right about league average. Yeah, but he's taking like

664
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,640
he's taking them off the balance, he's taking them from distance.

665
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Sure thing, you should make those shots.

666
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: I just don'tus when you see a guy sporadically who

667
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440
didn't play for almost two months and then he gets

668
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,079
time on the court, I just don't know how you could.

669
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Speaker 2: Possibly that part. I agree with that. The Hurricanes they

670
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,599
see him every day.

671
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Speaker 3: Though, I I guess it's I don't know. I think

672
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,840
it's different in game than an NBA game that in practice. Now,

673
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,840
has he done his own things to hurt his own cause? Yeah,

674
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,360
because when he was getting into the game in garbage

675
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,679
time late, it didn't look like Bones was taking it

676
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,519
as seriously as he should be. It looked like he

677
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,239
was sulking at times. He has to take advantage of

678
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,239
whatever minutes he gets, just because he came into the

679
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,599
season and everybody said he was going to be the backup,

680
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,199
and he had that job secured before they brought in

681
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,079
James Harden. Doesn't mean all of a sudden when he's

682
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,519
lower on the totem pole, that he's in a position

683
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,000
right now, this early in his career where he can

684
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,800
look like at times people were saying he was pouting

685
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,199
out there.

686
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Speaker 1: Well, there was the same thing coming out of Denver.

687
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:52,800
I mean like that, like that's why he left. He

688
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,039
got like he was getting less playing time there, and

689
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:56,920
obviously there were you know, there were more guys ahead

690
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,360
of him, but it you know, from the knowledge that

691
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,679
we had, uh, it seemed like that that relationship is

692
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,440
what really went south, even more so than the you know,

693
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,960
like then than the on court stuff.

694
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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say that there's criticism on

695
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,079
the Clippers for how they have used Bones or some

696
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,519
young players, and also say some of this is on

697
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:16,159
Bones too.

698
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: Do you think it?

699
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,639
Speaker 1: Do you think they've misused him as poorly as they

700
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,519
misused Russ.

701
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Speaker 3: That's an interesting question. Hell yeah, you tell me Will's.

702
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: You know, Russ just into the ball board, dude, you

703
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,440
know you put him out and you just let him

704
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,920
do his thing, all right.

705
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Speaker 1: We know he can't shoot threes, he can't finish around

706
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,719
the rim, like you gotta, you gotta really tailor the

707
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,800
game for us, you know, if you want him to succeed,

708
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,639
unless you want him to fail.

709
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: And this is this is what's interesting though. You look

710
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,719
at his catch and shoot numbers, like Bones does have

711
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,960
an NBA skill set that can be useful. Right now,

712
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,599
I don't know if it was useful. Maybe the expectations

713
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,159
were too high for the Clippers or trying to win

714
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,760
a championship, and they felt like Russ is the veteran

715
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,320
he obviously is going to get, you know, more chances

716
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,519
to fail than Bones Highland, a.

717
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:19,599
Speaker 2: Veteran who has so much class, especially in that specific

718
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,360
locker room. I think you know you mentioned a good

719
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,159
point at him with like you know he was on

720
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:26,480
a Clipper team that's trying to win a championship. He's

721
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,280
been on two teams that have championship aspirations that kind

722
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,000
of don't have time yeah too, which sucks for him.

723
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,079
But like you look at it's similar to Brandon Boston, right,

724
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:39,679
who just got signed by the Spurs. That's a perfect

725
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,159
team for Brandon Boston to go to and probably Bones Highland, right, Like,

726
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,079
you go to a team that has incredibly little expectations,

727
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,280
who has the you know, a guy who's going to

728
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,639
probably dominate the league at some point for like ten years,

729
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,639
you have a great coach, Like that's where a player

730
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:56,599
like Bones needs to be.

731
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 3: I wonder if the fact that he almost defeated himself

732
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,800
in some ways last season with his attitude, if that

733
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,599
had not happened, would he be getting a shot right

734
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:11,920
now with the Clippers either. I think he heard his

735
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,559
own cast because now a space has actually kind of

736
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,400
opened up for him. But maybe they've already given up

737
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,119
on what he can offer because of off the court

738
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,320
and even all in the court on.

739
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,079
Speaker 2: The practice court. Yeah, well, because it's like it's a

740
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:27,360
team of vets, right, So these are guys who don't

741
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,760
have time for the bullshit.

742
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,679
Speaker 3: And if you're not gonna play hard just because it's

743
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,280
garbage time, that's that's just a really bad look. That

744
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,239
almost looks like some entitlement.

745
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,079
Speaker 1: Especially on a yeah, especially on a vet laden team,

746
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,360
and especially you know, we just opened this show talking

747
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,800
about like Kawhi's approach to the work and his mentality.

748
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,320
I mean, like you know what I mean, Like you

749
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,119
see the everyone around you, and like what you know,

750
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,880
what the preparation and what they're doing to go in,

751
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,800
and like, I don't know, to think that you're gonna

752
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,880
like waltz into a role or be granted something. I

753
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:03,119
understand the disappointment, but like you know, like just even

754
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:04,960
as a business move, you got to think that like

755
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,679
James Harden, coming in, while it cuts away from your

756
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:12,719
playing time, is ultimately better for you. Like where you playing,

757
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,000
you playing minutes of meaningful basketball later in the season,

758
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:17,119
I guess, is what I'm saying.

759
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: And also, like be a contributing guy on a team

760
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,079
that goes far, that's also really good for your own business, right,

761
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:26,519
Like you help a Clippers team when they need it,

762
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:28,920
you know, kind of play well in your spots. That's

763
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,400
the thing. Other teams like when you can get up

764
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,519
to a new contract. And also things change. Troy Aikman

765
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:36,840
wrote a children's book called Things Change, and that was

766
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,639
for children, and in professional basketball things change. You bring

767
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,480
in James Harden, Yeah, dude, you're playing time is probably

768
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,119
gonna go down. Now. Why this isn't rocket side.

769
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: And as much as you can understand a guy feeling

770
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,800
like his job was taken for him from him for

771
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,320
no other reason than, you know, all of a sudden

772
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,280
his numbers game because he did play really well early

773
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,679
on the season. He was averaging I think sixteen points

774
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,559
per game his first five games or something like that.

775
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,480
But he probably felt like he was doing his job

776
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:12,480
and then it was taken from him. It just doesn't

777
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
matter when you're that young. Like, you have to take

778
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,159
advantage of whatever time you're given, whether it's practice, court time,

779
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,320
whether it's garbage time, Layton ball games.

780
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,599
Speaker 1: Terrence Man got kicked out of the starting lineup despite

781
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:26,559
the team being better with him as a starter, Okay,

782
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,519
and like, and he came back all right, Like, and

783
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:31,800
that's the guy you should be paying attention to. You're

784
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,639
not James Harden. You're not even Russell Westbrook not saying

785
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,480
anything skill wise, but like you know, like people have

786
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,360
a reputation, people have on a vent laden team, people

787
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,119
are gonna get opportunities. But like, that's the guy you

788
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,239
should be modeling. After he fought for his spotback. He

789
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,599
earned that spotback, and like, you know, I guess I

790
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,079
would have liked to have seen a little bit more.

791
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:52,760
And I think we were all a lot higher on

792
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,920
bones coming into last season and through periods of last season,

793
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,079
and now I guess I feel a lot a lot

794
00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:01,559
different about this that you well. An x Bogo brings

795
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:03,079
up a good part point.

796
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:06,079
Speaker 2: It seems like his vet was Tucker or it seems

797
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,800
like maybe he was, like that's difficult to watch a

798
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,480
guy who's like, I'm gonna complain to every newspaper possible.

799
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: Right, that's part of my frustration.

800
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: But use a different vet.

801
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: But you know what the problem also is with that,

802
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:23,679
and there's criticism to go around. It's not all the Clippers,

803
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:27,000
it's not all bones. It's hard to sort through it all.

804
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,119
But PJ. Tucker did get rewarded after complaining. He did,

805
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,519
he got more playing time. It almost like he bullied

806
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:38,039
his way back onto the court. That to me just

807
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:41,559
doesn't set the right example, to Bones, who's looking up

808
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:45,199
to that guy as his vet. Yeah, I didn't like that.

809
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:51,079
I obviously nobody, nobody was asking for starting game this

810
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,719
one game.

811
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,559
Speaker 2: I didn't see anyone on Glipper's Twitter saying, well, now

812
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,000
we might have a shout here.

813
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:01,519
Speaker 3: I would say that was curious. That a surprising move.

814
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,639
It to reward a guy who was outwardly complaining and

815
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,480
causing off the court issues.

816
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,159
Speaker 2: Maybe before we get to this FK retro question, he's

817
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:14,679
asked it twice, we should answer it. But maybe this

818
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,880
was not rewarding PJ. Tucker. Maybe this was Tyler being like,

819
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,159
you want to play, dude, you want to play, dude. Play,

820
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:27,119
Let's see how this works. Go play well.

821
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I do think that.

822
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,599
Speaker 2: Series was lost, not not you know, but like you can't.

823
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: Put it on him. But I do think that Tye

824
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:38,960
also is a guy who, you know, will let guys

825
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:41,840
kind of prove their own faults or like make their

826
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,440
own and he has to and and at times he

827
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,679
has to, and I think sometimes we've seen him be like,

828
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,920
especially with the Marks Moore situation, a little too lenient

829
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,679
in that regard, but like when something is clear, like

830
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,760
it's got to be clear even the player, like, hey,

831
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,840
you're getting the opportunity, you're getting the minutes. This is

832
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239
what we're receiving. Like what you know, what what do

833
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,559
you expect? You think that this is gonna go now,

834
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:03,679
Like we're gonna give you even more, Like what what

835
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,199
do you want?

836
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: With PJ? It was just so unique to me because

837
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,880
they gave him minutes early on when he first got there.

838
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:12,159
It didn't work. Then he can plain.

839
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,199
Speaker 1: More they needed more like it, like I kind of

840
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,880
got you know, I kind of got.

841
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,039
Speaker 3: It, like needing a wing and a guy who's thirty

842
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:24,400
seven or thirty eight though and looking like that are

843
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:27,760
just like I would rather play a mere coffee more.

844
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,639
There there have to be other options than PJ. Tucker

845
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,599
starting in a game where people say the season, the

846
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:36,079
season was over, it was looking bleak. It's still a

847
00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:38,039
must win Game six where if you win that game,

848
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:39,400
you get a Game seven at home. Again.

849
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,599
Speaker 2: In the first round, he outscored Paul George in the

850
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:45,760
second half. Okay, getting to this FK Retro question, which

851
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,559
I don't fully understand, is it just the most important

852
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:53,599
part of the season being better than Houston? So we

853
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,719
keep our pick this year the Clippers. Is this swap?

854
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,159
Speaker 1: I don't know.

855
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 2: Is this I don't think we have a pick.

856
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 3: I've heard this from La Murray. I should have looked

857
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,480
it up, but it does sound like they.

858
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: Go, sorry, okay, I'm gonna read what I'm looking at

859
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,000
and y'all follow it.

860
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: Or I've seen a lot of balloons. I'm taking that

861
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,440
as good news.

862
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh no, a balloons. I don't know if it's good.

863
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: There's been a bunch of balloons.

864
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,039
Speaker 2: I can't control the balloons. I think we've established that

865
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:20,960
on this podcast.

866
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: They keep like five first round picks. How many?

867
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: Is it?

868
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: Okay, see has the right to swap It's twenty twenty

869
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,480
five first round pick for Houston's twenty twenty five first

870
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,679
round pick protected for selections one through ten, or the

871
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,719
clippers twenty twenty five first round.

872
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: Pick, so they're only able to swap one of them. Yeah,

873
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,119
they're gonna do it for whoever finishes lower between the

874
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:47,320
Clippers in Houston.

875
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: But Houston's protected one through ten. Interesting, there you go.

876
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:57,559
Speaker 3: It does seem it does seem good. It does seem

877
00:43:57,559 --> 00:43:58,960
important to be better than Houston.

878
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Yes, points a great point to point out fkt's Yeah,

879
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:06,679
thank you, the seasons will win. If we finished better

880
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,800
than Houston.

881
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,679
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, it's also a loss if we don't.

882
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,440
I think we can put that. I think we can

883
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:14,400
all put that line in the sand and know what's

884
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,320
side to be on it.

885
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,119
Speaker 3: That is, that is kind of a team that you're

886
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:27,000
expecting to make a jump and could be fighting for

887
00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:29,519
position in the standings all season long with the Clippers. Honestly,

888
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,480
I wouldn't be surprised by that.

889
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: It will be interesting to see where we stack up

890
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,880
with the youth teams kind of who should be taking

891
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,840
some kind of jump.

892
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,599
Speaker 3: They had a tough victory in Houston late last year

893
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,360
where Kawhi took over against Jabari Smith a little bit.

894
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,079
It was a fun game and Houston plays one.

895
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: Lord, yeah they got I mean it's gonna be I like,

896
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,039
f Houston could be pretty damn good.

897
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot or they could trade Jalen Green, maybe

898
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,079
sche Gooon, Like they have a lot of moving parts.

899
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:10,519
I think, oh yeah, they were kind.

900
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,599
Speaker 2: Of talking about maybe trading Seinggoon, which seems insane, right if,

901
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,199
Like I don't watch a bunch of them, I don't

902
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,360
think that's real. Yeah, that would make sense. Because he

903
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,840
is very good at basketball professional basketball.

904
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 3: They're kind of in that place where they have to

905
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,239
decide which direction they're going with star wise, I guess

906
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:28,920
eat both.

907
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:31,679
Speaker 2: I don't know.

908
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: They're probably dealing with well, we don't know who plays

909
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,199
well enough with one another. Because we have so many

910
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,719
young guys, they're gonna be tough, tough.

911
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:47,559
Speaker 2: Yes, how do we feel We may see if there's

912
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,719
any other questions in here? I want to talk. There's

913
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,159
no footage yet from this. Oh, actually, we're gonna take

914
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:55,519
a quick audio break. Sorry, podcast listeners. We gotta take

915
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:59,880
a quick break and then we'll be back at break

916
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:03,719
at what are we at forty six is we'll be

917
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,599
back to talk James Harden being the best veteran leader

918
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:09,199
we all expect him to be. ATHLETs, ads and three

919
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:09,800
to two.

920
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,679
Speaker 3: One welcome back in It's season three. It is a

921
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,880
live episode for you here on the YouTube side of

922
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:23,280
clips and different side. It's some called a podcast. I

923
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,480
don't want to split hairs here at semantics, but uh,

924
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,320
Chuck Bockler will Updyke and all three of us will

925
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,039
be at the ind to it don't coming up this

926
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:33,880
weekend for the first time. It's gonna be a lot

927
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,119
of fun. We'll bring you some content from that. James

928
00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:41,559
Harden the best veteran leader on the Clippers team.

929
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:46,679
Speaker 2: He might be. He took Uh Derek Jones, Junior, Jordan Miller,

930
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,079
Cam Christy, Kobe Brown, and Elijah Harkless to the Rico

931
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,000
Ja Rico Hines Run, which, if you're familiar with Los

932
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:58,239
Angeles basketball, is a pillar of off season runs for pros,

933
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,840
semi pros, and people who play it levels of basketball.

934
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,440
No one else can. I love this move. I want

935
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,800
the footage to come out. But this is an awesome

936
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,880
move by James Harden. And you know, because James Harden

937
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
is very much an LA guy, Like he's helping these

938
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,199
you know what I mean, Like, I think those guys

939
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,559
could go to this run without James Harden, but James

940
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,400
Harden seemingly I like the idea of him getting everyone

941
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,039
together and getting him into this run.

942
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: Are we in agreement that, as opposed to Paul George,

943
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,559
James Harden clearly wanted to stay in LA because he

944
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,800
likely could have gotten more than two year seventy million

945
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,519
somewhere else.

946
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves giving up money, it seems.

947
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he definitely wanted to stay in LA.

948
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,840
I don't know how much more he could.

949
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:50,519
Speaker 2: Have gotten, Like would it have been like Utah.

950
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:53,519
Speaker 1: Three for one twenty Like. I don't think there was

951
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,599
like a huge amount of offers out there.

952
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,119
Speaker 3: I guessed he was gonna end up with three years

953
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:03,880
two plus one from the Clippers for about one tennis.

954
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,960
That was my guess going in. Now, he can still

955
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,880
opt out after this year, and he can get that

956
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,800
year back eventually, but I was I'm still a little

957
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,280
bit surprised by that contract. Obviously, that is a bargain

958
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,639
in some ways.

959
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:19,559
Speaker 1: But you do raise valid point. I do think that

960
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:24,360
he was ready to kind of stop jumping around time

961
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,880
to settle down.

962
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: The strip clubs are worse in LA. The strip clubs

963
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,239
aren't markedly worse than any other city he's played in

964
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,559
or seems to living, because doesn't even mostly live in Houston.

965
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: They're not worse than Brooklyn. That's insane, Philadelphia, that's insane.

966
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, what in what ways? What's the difference?

967
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:45,760
I don't know.

968
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: Well, the strip clubs here close, right, and it's just

969
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,280
different culturally. I mean, he spends most of his time

970
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,599
in Houston. But I want this footage to because it's

971
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,719
also like it's awesome for Cam Christy to be out

972
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,599
there getting like because the Rico Heines runs are not bullshit,

973
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,280
you play like these of have to look up the

974
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,440
rules again, Like the Rico Heines rules are crazy, Like

975
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:14,400
it's like you're running your ass off. Four point shot,

976
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,960
four point shots, six point shot. No, I'm gonna look

977
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,239
at it right now. But I love Yeah. I think

978
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,800
he just wants to be here. I think he wants

979
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,760
to actually make something happen for an l A team

980
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,639
that's saying that as of August ninth.

981
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 3: This this was his final destination Basketball City. This is

982
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,760
where he always wanted to end up.

983
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: That's well, maybe not his final destiny Basketball Yeah, Basketball City, sure,

984
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,599
but I'm excited by this. This is like I hope

985
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:51,079
a Mere Coffee is there too, and maybe he just

986
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,920
wasn't in the picture. I want every Clipper to be

987
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,159
at the Rico Heines runs.

988
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,559
Speaker 3: Kind of worry about how a Mere is feeling right now.

989
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:01,320
To be honest, what do you mean he's kind of

990
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,760
been he's kind of been the overlooked guy this offseason.

991
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,239
How does he fit in with if they're trying to

992
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,000
bring in some of these youth guys. Jordan Miller like

993
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:12,480
he could be the odd man out in some ways,

994
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,920
and he had a really rough playoff series.

995
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,119
Speaker 2: Do you think Jordan Miller could challenge a mirror for

996
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:20,360
those minutes? A lot of people want him to think,

997
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,119
I because, like again the expectations, Ty always wants to win, obviously,

998
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,679
but this is not a championship. Other than the fact

999
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,440
that this is totally our year. This is not the

1000
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,199
Clippers year.

1001
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:33,559
Speaker 3: It's not what Will said.

1002
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: How Dar, you can't forget that this is I mean,

1003
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,199
if it was ever gonna.

1004
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,599
Speaker 3: Happen, Yeah, tell them, tell them.

1005
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: Just woke up this morning with the feeling like.

1006
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:51,079
Speaker 2: This is our year, this is the year. I don't know,

1007
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:53,639
I think, I hope. I really want Jordan Miller to

1008
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:55,679
get a shot. I don't really and I mean the

1009
00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:00,519
shot at what just spot minutes like I'm not fuck,

1010
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:04,480
he's not fucking second string like I wanted. Maybe some

1011
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:09,159
of mere minutes like I don't. And this is this

1012
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,280
is my opinion. This is not the opinion of Clips

1013
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,800
and Dip as a whole. Obviously full disclaimer. I don't

1014
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,239
care about G League stats if they're very if you're

1015
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,760
like killing it in the G League, I'm like sick.

1016
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:20,559
If you're really bad in the G League, I'm like,

1017
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,760
well that doesn't seem good. But if you're just like

1018
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,519
crushing it, I'm like awesome. A lot of guys have

1019
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:30,199
done this, no disrespect. It's much different basketball than you're

1020
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:36,199
playing up in for the NBA club. I think Jordan

1021
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:39,719
Miller could have productive NBA minutes. We saw him do

1022
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,639
some stuff in Summer League where it was like, oh.

1023
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you don't trust the G League scoring.

1024
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920
But a show like a Summer League showing is he's

1025
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,519
ready for more than league.

1026
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: I think it's he's ready for him to challenge a

1027
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,559
mere coffee, is what I'm saying. He's not ready to

1028
00:51:54,599 --> 00:51:57,360
bear penciled in, but he's ready to challenge a mere coffee.

1029
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,599
I think it's all carried over.

1030
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,159
Speaker 3: I did wonder what whether the G League or Summer

1031
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,320
League is more competitive brand of basketball, more organized basketball.

1032
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,800
I would imagine the G league's more organized, like you're

1033
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,199
seeing play with league.

1034
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,679
Speaker 1: As a season.

1035
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,559
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, but the Summer League is guys from Europe

1036
00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:18,320
trying to make a team, young weird pros, young rookies

1037
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,639
and old pros. But it's this mixed Michael Bis of guys.

1038
00:52:22,039 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: But I but what he did in those games, how

1039
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,880
he was scoring, he wasn't like he wasn't just ISO

1040
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:29,480
putting up twenty five points and like killing a guy

1041
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:31,719
off the dribble, which is obviously not going to happen

1042
00:52:32,559 --> 00:52:37,800
in Yeah, x Man goes on it, Thank you x Man. No,

1043
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,519
he just did things that looked like they would translate

1044
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:46,360
to the few opportunities he would get when he gets

1045
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,639
first team time with the Clippers.

1046
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 3: I think if he shows out in training camp, he

1047
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,360
has a shot.

1048
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, by the way, preseason basketball wait, now, I'm so honestly,

1049
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,440
if Miller secures a spot, it's looking like are he.

1050
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: So?

1051
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:05,599
Speaker 2: There's Summer League, there is G League, and there's also

1052
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:11,239
like preseason games? Is preseason games in between? Like, where

1053
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:11,880
does that rank?

1054
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: Preseason is below the summer league?

1055
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the third low, it's the very bottom, because

1056
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,440
that's kind of where I'm thinking. Is that that's that's correct?

1057
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,159
Speaker 1: No, No, it just depends on that. It just depends

1058
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,199
because I feel like preseason games are such a crapshoot

1059
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:28,519
as to like who's actually playing right.

1060
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,119
Speaker 2: I've seen with summer right.

1061
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: It's probably honestly above both though just in very small

1062
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,039
segments where all of a sudden, Kawhi gives you five

1063
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,320
minutes in the preseason game like we have seen chat chat.

1064
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,599
Speaker 1: What do you think rank for US, rank for US? UH,

1065
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,880
Summer league, G League preseason?

1066
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: Is the coaching different too in preseason?

1067
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 3: And then throw in UH the n season tournament where that.

1068
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: Yes, please do that too? Looking what are your? What

1069
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,760
are our? Because you know how I feel about Jordan Miller,

1070
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,800
I think you could challenge for some spot minutes. That's

1071
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,960
where I'm at with Jordan Miller.

1072
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: I think you're right with.

1073
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: And then from there, you know most of good player

1074
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:11,920
in the league.

1075
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,679
Speaker 3: The decisiveness that you were speaking to with not playing

1076
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:18,440
with his food like we saw too much from Ben

1077
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:20,280
and Boston Junior, which is not going to happen much

1078
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,320
at the NBA level. You have to go out there

1079
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,760
and make people decisions. He did and I'm heard it

1080
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,000
for him, Bill.

1081
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:32,519
Speaker 2: But will Is Now, I love young Chuckers. Guy.

1082
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,119
Speaker 1: Look, buddy, that's how you make it your year.

1083
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: The gravity of Wemby is going to help out Brandon

1084
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,880
Boston Junior so much. He's going to see so many

1085
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,480
open looks.

1086
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1087
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 3: I just like the thing that I think translates most

1088
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,199
is what you were talking about, Chuck. This quick decision

1089
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,679
making from Brandon from excuse me, Jordan Miller with him

1090
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,000
getting downhill getting to the basket or just putting him

1091
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:01,719
up from the outside on catching shoots and not wasting

1092
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,239
movement and not being out there trying to do too much,

1093
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,320
which is what you often see from young guys who

1094
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,400
try to get into their bag.

1095
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that is a good call, and I like what

1096
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,599
Xmongo put in here. He added some stuff he's got,

1097
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:16,840
like that little eurostep. He's also left handed, which you

1098
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,039
know I'm biased about. I don't know. I like his

1099
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,000
chances of getting time over Kobe Brown's, and I never

1100
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:26,280
thought I would say that. Y'all know how I feel

1101
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,039
about Kobe Brown.

1102
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 3: I think he's an easier fit in some ways than

1103
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,880
Kobe Brown, even though they have a need at the four.

1104
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,079
I don't know if Kobe Brown is close to being

1105
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:40,760
ready for that because he just doesn't have one skill

1106
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,639
set that really stands out that can translate to the

1107
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,000
NBA level, where Jordan Miller it feels like he can

1108
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:50,000
already do three things that a wing, that's what you

1109
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,960
need out of a wing, even at the age of

1110
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,519
twenty four, and him growing into a role. If his

1111
00:55:56,639 --> 00:56:01,599
shooting is anywhere close to league average, I have wondered

1112
00:56:01,639 --> 00:56:03,719
whether or not he was just on a heater in

1113
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,320
Summer League. He had a great game one, and therefore

1114
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,840
his confidence was here all six games or whatever it was.

1115
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,840
And maybe it's too small to sample size, because in

1116
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,880
the G League in twenty five games or whatever it was,

1117
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,760
I think he shot thirty one percent from the outside.

1118
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,800
So who is he as a shooter? Really? I'm not

1119
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,199
sure I would lean towards he's closer to thirty percent

1120
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:24,960
than forty percent.

1121
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would lean towards that too. But would he

1122
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,639
be closer to forty four percent from the corner like

1123
00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:34,440
you thought John Wall would be when he signed for

1124
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,039
the Clippers.

1125
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,599
Speaker 3: I thought, I said, yeah, over thirty eight percent.

1126
00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: I believe the floor was thirty nine percent.

1127
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: X Bogo brings up a good thing. Kobe fouls a lot,

1128
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,280
and the reason he fouls a lot he is slow

1129
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,039
on the perimeter on defense. His foot speed is not

1130
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,719
that That's like the biggest thing for me that's going

1131
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,480
to prevent Kobe from the minutes that maybe Jordan Miller

1132
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,239
could get this year.

1133
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: If he can't guard, he can't shoot, and he can't

1134
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,079
rebound with that size at a high enough level. Vibes

1135
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,400
he's a good connection. That is the one thing that

1136
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,039
he has shown. He could get some hockey assists out there,

1137
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,199
for sure. I want to see more. I'm not out

1138
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,199
on Kobe Brown, like he doesn't have a chance to

1139
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,039
succeed at this level. I just think it's obvious right

1140
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,280
now that Jordan Miller's a little bit further ahead.

1141
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: Which, yeah, it's good to see. It's a I mean,

1142
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,440
a young guy who could make something happen. Now. I'm

1143
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,280
just worried about a mirror though, didn't mean to bring

1144
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,559
it up.

1145
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,719
Speaker 3: Well, I just we don't. I think he's the odd

1146
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,079
man out right now in some ways. I mean, he

1147
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,599
was traded last year. There was a trade with a

1148
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:58,480
mirror Coffee being involved at one point when they thought

1149
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:01,480
they had Malcolm Brogan and then Marcus Morris was off.

1150
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,639
Speaker 1: The team, thankfully sliding doors moment. Good thing that didn't

1151
00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:06,320
end up happening.

1152
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: Dude, that's crazy, Yeah, that was that would have been bad.

1153
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:17,639
Someone's asking the restream chat is broken, Restream, no disrespect.

1154
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:19,199
You've been fucking up for yea.

1155
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,679
Speaker 1: Restream has been sucking up lately.

1156
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:23,639
Speaker 2: Some of the chats asking what do you guys think

1157
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:29,360
about the NBA Christmas Day schedule? I hate Christmas Day games? Crap.

1158
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,760
I like them for my team, I hate them.

1159
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't like him EI there because I'd rather not

1160
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:40,480
have to work on Christmas. I wouldn't complain because it

1161
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:42,440
is kind of fun too. You feel like you're on

1162
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,039
a higher You're you're on a spotlight. There's the stage

1163
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:49,559
is a little bit higher, because that's kind of the.

1164
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,039
Speaker 2: Like double the amount of games.

1165
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's not the same as it like Christmas Day,

1166
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,000
NBA is not the same as it once was.

1167
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 3: Agreed has undercut.

1168
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm fuked. I'd rather watch the Texans no like I

1169
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,440
mean yeah, like yaas tweeted like, oh no Christmas Day

1170
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,400
game and you're like, dude, just be with your family

1171
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,039
on Christmas. Who gives a shit about it?

1172
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: So you sucked the bucks.

1173
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 2: Suck you suck. Don't suck. You'll get a game. That's

1174
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,800
also a good outlook too, Don't suck and you'll probably

1175
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,480
get it. Suck.

1176
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: We didn't get a game, so you guys aren't scored

1177
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:34,000
at all because there's no Philadelphia versus Clippers game, Paul

1178
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:35,360
George game on Christmas Day.

1179
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: No, I don't want it because the Sixers would probably

1180
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,199
beat the Clippers.

1181
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,679
Speaker 1: No, I've already told you what I want to happen.

1182
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,280
Paul George returns to into it with the day that

1183
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:45,920
we retire Chrisma and Blake Griffins.

1184
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,159
Speaker 3: Dude, that is the best idea.

1185
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: Cheat. Let us know what you think of that. No

1186
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,440
One no one rank Summer League, G League and preseason.

1187
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:56,559
But we know that y'all have thoughts about dude, that

1188
00:59:56,599 --> 01:00:00,719
would be chef's that would just be wonderful. Hey, PG,

1189
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,679
we're gonna have you back. We got a forty five

1190
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:05,119
second tribute video because we gotta fit in Blake and

1191
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:10,000
CP three Serisy retirement, and you're gonna get booed. I'm

1192
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,360
gonna boo from the media section. No, I won't do that.

1193
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,639
I don't even know if I'm invited in the media section,

1194
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,159
but I won't be booming.

1195
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,039
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he feels at home?

1196
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:28,719
Speaker 3: Is this because the B team comment? Where's all this

1197
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,360
animosity coming towards Paul George regardless.

1198
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that regardless comment. Yeah me, it

1199
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,800
was definitely coming regardless. I forgot that he even said

1200
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,920
that I was going stupid ship. It's hard to keep

1201
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,320
track of.

1202
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,719
Speaker 2: I was a smoldering trash fire. Uh. And now just

1203
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,599
that he's gone and yeah, no, he's get him out

1204
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:53,559
of here. Someone asked up in the chat, when we're

1205
01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:56,000
getting the the Terrence and Zoo.

1206
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,719
Speaker 3: Contracts down, when do we tell what time is it?

1207
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,559
Speaker 2: I think at six thirty third it's gonna be. I

1208
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:06,440
think they're just waiting.

1209
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:09,119
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think they're waiting to see I

1210
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:10,800
mean I.

1211
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:12,039
Speaker 2: Adams, I just noticed Adam's name.

1212
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,639
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that they want them to

1213
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:19,039
test free agency, but it does appear like twenty twenty

1214
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:22,599
six is a huge priority, So I think I think

1215
01:01:22,639 --> 01:01:25,599
it's just going to depend on what number, like if

1216
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:30,000
either of those guys are are are willing to, you know,

1217
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,519
to take a lower number that versus test the open market,

1218
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:35,920
I think. And also we're getting some stuff in the

1219
01:01:36,199 --> 01:01:38,960
chat about Tea Man not resign and I've brought this

1220
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:41,679
up on the show before, Like he is from Lowell,

1221
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:44,039
Massachusetts and would be a hell of a fit on

1222
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:46,199
Boston if they could make that work.

1223
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,719
Speaker 2: And he's been his his chain has been yanked multiple

1224
01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:55,079
times on this Clippers team. Hum, he's had to play.

1225
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:57,039
What was that tweet from that great treat from Law

1226
01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:59,840
Murray where it was like, in like two weeks Terrence

1227
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,039
may was at one point like starting to he was

1228
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:07,400
the backup one. He had to play the five. He

1229
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:11,119
started at the four. Like you're like, I could see

1230
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:12,800
him wanting more of a definal role.

1231
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: I don't know, six tool player more than five six tools.

1232
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: You can play the same.

1233
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,559
Speaker 3: Do you think either of these guys are saying, wait,

1234
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,239
I could get more money if I ball out this

1235
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,199
season and not sign the extension.

1236
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: Now I could contract.

1237
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:31,599
Speaker 3: I could prove it because they should both get more

1238
01:02:31,639 --> 01:02:35,079
minutes and more shot opportunities and have the ability to

1239
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:36,519
show off more of their offense this year.

1240
01:02:37,159 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: I think the contract here thing. I think it's more

1241
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,920
real with like younger guys, like guys who are kind

1242
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,440
of in the PG or not PG, the Terrence Zoo

1243
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:47,760
range where they can also get another big contract after

1244
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:48,199
this one.

1245
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,519
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe maybe this is this is like

1246
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,440
this next deal is probably going to be for both

1247
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,840
guys like where they make the majority of their career

1248
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,719
earnings four years. Yeah, you're kind of like, you know,

1249
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,239
that's that's the peak of your earning potential.

1250
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: If Due gets four for one hundred, I don't think

1251
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,119
he's getting more than that, which I think he could

1252
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:12,000
maybe get. I don't think four for a hundred is

1253
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:12,840
crazy for Sue.

1254
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:17,039
Speaker 3: After night we saw from Jared Allen, I'd be good

1255
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:17,199
with that.

1256
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:19,679
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope they do it. I hope we

1257
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:22,639
have the contract year thing comes true and these guys

1258
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,239
just go crazy. That'd be awesome.

1259
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: I would just guess though, that maybe the Clippers would

1260
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,719
like to get it done sooner than later. And then

1261
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,840
maybe from the player perspective, it's, you know what, I'm

1262
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,320
about to get more touches. I'm about to show that

1263
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,880
I'm worth even more than However these contract negotiations are going.

1264
01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:41,400
Maybe that's why it's being dragged out a little bit further,

1265
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:43,559
or we don't know exactly.

1266
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I was either one of these guys, I mean,

1267
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,679
they've both been like so reliable, I would probably say, like,

1268
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,440
let's wait and see how this year goes.

1269
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: Ben on yourself, do you guys think and this is

1270
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,280
completely out of thin air. I have no I know

1271
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,280
that Terrence. I think Terrence was reffed by CIA, their

1272
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,400
sports division. Wouldn't it be crazy if you were like

1273
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,599
I feel like Zoo has like a weird agent, Like

1274
01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:07,320
Zoo's agent is like his uncle or something like that.

1275
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,360
Am I making that up out of thin air? He

1276
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,639
seems like a guy who would have a wonky agent.

1277
01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:13,480
And I don't mean that disrespectfully.

1278
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:20,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not positive by that, right. There was a

1279
01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:24,119
moment last season, either right before during the summer or

1280
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:27,719
early in the year, when it was brought up regarding

1281
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:32,280
contract extensions with Terrence Man, and he pushed back like,

1282
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,119
oh no, we're not already even talking about that right now.

1283
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,440
And it was one of the rare times where Terrence

1284
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,039
Man kind of put his foot down with the media.

1285
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:42,119
He's always so accessible and always so nice. So I

1286
01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:45,800
don't know. I want to read Tea Leaves here, but.

1287
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,079
Speaker 2: All we've been doing this offseason is reading Tea Leaves all.

1288
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,599
Speaker 1: A lot of literature, a lot of literature out there.

1289
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: Of literature at the bottom of the cup. D Flow

1290
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:00,199
is asking we should have less back to backs, no

1291
01:05:00,239 --> 01:05:05,559
twelve Penn games on Saturday this season, right, theoretically, absolutely.

1292
01:05:06,599 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, back to backs are weird because you're still

1293
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,480
dealing with other teams' schedules. I would assume are off

1294
01:05:12,519 --> 01:05:15,159
the menus.

1295
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,559
Speaker 2: Are off the menu. But fly so Fi Plaza did

1296
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:23,480
ban concerts after the hard summer, which means into it

1297
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:26,079
as in line to have more concerts, So who knows,

1298
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:32,119
maybe we get bumped for some famous pop act. No,

1299
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:34,679
I'm just kidding. I think I mean the twelve pm

1300
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,079
the nooner games are done. They've like, like Bamber's talked

1301
01:05:38,119 --> 01:05:41,719
about that about having a new stadium. I'm pretty sure about,

1302
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:44,440
like not having to play at twelve thirty on Saturday.

1303
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 3: The schedule is likely coming out in the next seven

1304
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,599
or ten days. I think last year it was August

1305
01:05:51,079 --> 01:05:53,760
sixteenth or seventeenth or eighteenth. It is happening, likely in

1306
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:54,400
the next week.

1307
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 2: My sister's birthday is August seventeenth. He's always so excited

1308
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,599
that the NBA schedule might release them the same day.

1309
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:06,480
They're doing this for me, Dame finally, but yeah, so you.

1310
01:06:06,519 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: Will have to have Joseph Fry Award on as soon

1311
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,119
as the schedule is released.

1312
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I believe Josephry Award is

1313
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,119
maybe going on Adam Show soon, yeah or name.

1314
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:17,599
Speaker 3: I think he's coming on Monday.

1315
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: Hell yeah.

1316
01:06:19,079 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: My angle is to try to convince him to come back,

1317
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,079
because I know he's kind of soured on this era

1318
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:26,880
of Clippers basketball. But maybe with the changes this summer,

1319
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:28,119
is he's all the way back in.

1320
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,199
Speaker 2: That's a good call. Yeah. The Clippers haven't had a

1321
01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:33,800
Christmas Day game since twenty twenty one, and what a

1322
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,039
Christmas Day game that was. That was a good time.

1323
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,440
That was the Pat Bev deflection on Lebron.

1324
01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 3: I think that was twenty twenty.

1325
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: That was twenty twenty. Well, all those years run together

1326
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,440
for me. Due to a global pandemic.

1327
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:53,199
Speaker 3: I wonder if the NBA at some point said there's

1328
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,760
too many guys out, too many stars out, and that's

1329
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,679
why the Clippers no longer being featured as much in

1330
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:02,400
some of the primetime slots. Awesome, which is yeah, which

1331
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:08,480
is fair, I think, But but into it, don't but

1332
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:11,239
into it? Don't You don't want to feature that on Christmas?

1333
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:14,679
That's true, it's kind of a big deal.

1334
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,559
Speaker 1: No one cares, no casual Yeah, I don't think no

1335
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:21,239
casual fan gives a ship about what the stadium is

1336
01:07:21,519 --> 01:07:22,679
on the Christmas Day game?

1337
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:26,039
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait? What if

1338
01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:27,880
the home team has to play in Santa costumes?

1339
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:31,599
Speaker 1: Well, that's different, that's nothing to new with the stadium.

1340
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:32,360
That's a costume.

1341
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,119
Speaker 2: That would be sick. Though. Maybe they, oh, Christmas Day.

1342
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: Give Christmas, they should be the Gene game.

1343
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: Christmas Day should be the Gene game. Or the home

1344
01:07:42,039 --> 01:07:44,760
team gives away Santa suits to the to the crowd,

1345
01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:47,360
so as you're looking into the crowd, you just see

1346
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,159
a bunch of that'd be terrified. It'd be like the

1347
01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:53,360
Bomber mask idea we had where at into it the

1348
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,719
first game they give away incredibly realistic Steve Bomber mass

1349
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,119
to every single person going, and then you look in

1350
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:02,599
the crowd and it's just twenty whatever thousand Steve Bers.

1351
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:05,480
That sounds like a horrible dream.

1352
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah it it feels like a point break scene.

1353
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:12,079
Speaker 1: Or something like, yeah, yeahs you predict that into it

1354
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:12,519
this year?

1355
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I think they're gonna sell out.

1356
01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: Every Clipper like every game. Yeah, yeah, I don't know

1357
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:21,079
if they're selling out every.

1358
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:26,359
Speaker 3: Game that well, how long was their sellout streak? Because

1359
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,640
this kind of flew under the radar during Lob City.

1360
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,079
It was something like five years it was. It was massive.

1361
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, much different brand of basketball.

1362
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying I think a lot I guess

1363
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,239
I'm just bringing it up. Not not even because of

1364
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,520
less star power, but it just seems like the the

1365
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,319
astronomical price hike is going to put a lot of

1366
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,720
like regulars kind of off.

1367
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, I think where we need

1368
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,319
to watch for the sellouts is going to be towards

1369
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,439
the end of the year. If this team is in

1370
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:06,319
this place, they're not selling out. Clipper Spurs is not

1371
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,600
selling out towards the end of the year when they're

1372
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,840
battling for the ninth and tenth spot. I don't think

1373
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,520
that's gonna happen, but it could happen.

1374
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 3: I think a Wemby game's probably selling out.

1375
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, Well, yeah, that's that's a good call.

1376
01:09:17,079 --> 01:09:21,159
Speaker 3: I think a Brandon Boston junior game selling out.

1377
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:26,159
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it'ssical to him being like and then

1378
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:28,960
like those times when he was yeah that one game

1379
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:35,079
in Boston sell out. I bet they'll sell out.

1380
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: Will's probably right. Like home games, the excitement of the

1381
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,520
arena is enough to hold it over for a while,

1382
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,840
but if they're not playing well at some point, that

1383
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,399
could change if things went downhill. If they're competitive, though,

1384
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,119
I think they're selling out.

1385
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,399
Speaker 2: If they're competitive, sure, It's also we have to factor

1386
01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:56,960
in it's a less central location for most of the

1387
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:01,399
people who live in Los Angeles. Selfishly wish they just

1388
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,920
built their own stadium right next to Staples. If I'm

1389
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,199
being honest, I wish that would have been possible.

1390
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: On top of stables demolshit, who cares, That's what I'm saying.

1391
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: What we all wanted to take out buildings, take out

1392
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,119
that building where all those graffiti departments are. How come

1393
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:17,399
the Clippers couldn't play there?

1394
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: I helped the Intuit Dome staff as escorting us around

1395
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,079
on Sundays and seeing this.

1396
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:24,319
Speaker 2: How sick would it be, though? If the Clippers just

1397
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:29,199
had opened a brand new, multi billion dollar stadium just

1398
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:30,800
across the street from Staples.

1399
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it'd be awesome, just because I mean

1400
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,720
I've brought this up before, Like just all the infrastructure

1401
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,119
around the stadium is already there. You know, there's like

1402
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:43,199
already yeah, I mean a public transit, which I know

1403
01:10:43,279 --> 01:10:45,159
not that many people are worried about. But you know

1404
01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:47,399
there's bars and restaurants and like all the.

1405
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 2: Hanks is right there. Are they going to open a

1406
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,439
Hanks down in Englewood? Do we know if that's happening.

1407
01:10:53,039 --> 01:10:54,239
Speaker 1: They don't franchise.

1408
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,359
Speaker 2: Well that's actually that's actually a good call on Hanks

1409
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,880
part Oh ex Bongo Project. I don't know how much

1410
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,239
time you guys have by the way there, I'm just

1411
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:07,279
kind of going as we go. Kai Jones Lob City

1412
01:11:07,279 --> 01:11:10,159
two point zero, Adam, I think you've ran into some

1413
01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:13,720
of the Kai Jones stands on Twitter, which kind of

1414
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,800
remind me. It reminds me of like I feel like

1415
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,520
like NBA stand culture is similar to like people investing

1416
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,560
in like doge coin and like stupid ass fake you

1417
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,760
know what I mean. Like it's like a bit like

1418
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,439
the Kai Jones stands. It all has to be a bit.

1419
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,680
None of that is real belief. And I don't mean

1420
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,079
that disrespectfully. I just hope none of it's at Like.

1421
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't think the rust stands was a bit.

1422
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,359
Speaker 2: Rust stands are very real. But he had like a

1423
01:11:41,399 --> 01:11:43,800
resume you could point back to and be like, oh

1424
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,640
he was an MVP. He was at one point one

1425
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,760
of the top players. Like, yeah, Kay Jones has been bad.

1426
01:11:50,399 --> 01:11:54,039
Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of momentum for a guy

1427
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:56,920
who's averaged two and two so far in minimum time

1428
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,359
at the NBA level. And I'm rooting for him because

1429
01:12:00,359 --> 01:12:04,079
the Clippers could really use that athleticism. And yeah, if

1430
01:12:04,079 --> 01:12:05,880
they had a rim runner next to James Harden, it

1431
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,479
would be a great connection. I just we haven't seen nearly.

1432
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,279
Speaker 1: They don't have one now, djj.

1433
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean Zoo could throw it down a.

1434
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:19,239
Speaker 2: Little bit, can he? Big Grue?

1435
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,399
Speaker 3: I don't know, asked him on to some bonus.

1436
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: I saw someone in the chat saying he's not strong enough.

1437
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:30,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what Big Zoo or Kai Zoo.

1438
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:37,479
Someone was saying Zoo is too soft. I don't think

1439
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,079
he is hot. Take I do think he needs to

1440
01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:46,720
grow his damn hair out. We've talked about this and nausey. Okay,

1441
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,159
here we go, Chunk, Chunk Sampson. We know this is

1442
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:52,399
Chunk Sampson. You can't hide from us by taking your

1443
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,880
last name up. Uh you guys. I think Moboba is

1444
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,560
gonna be really good. That's my sleeper. I think he's

1445
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,680
better than Kay Jones.

1446
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: He certainly has proven more at this level, but yeah,

1447
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,199
played more at the NBA level.

1448
01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:07,159
Speaker 2: Uh, he has no post moves.

1449
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I like Mobama and another guy

1450
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,359
like I would really like to see succeed. I don't

1451
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,800
think that that's what's gonna happen.

1452
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,520
Speaker 2: But the backup, the backup center situation again terrifying.

1453
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: We talked about this every year.

1454
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:25,359
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the new it's the new point guard issue.

1455
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,199
It's we just have a terrifying like, we have a

1456
01:13:28,199 --> 01:13:32,880
teetering We went from two vets basically splitting time to

1457
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:35,000
Mobamba guy jokes.

1458
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: Either way, he's an upgrade over what we saw for

1459
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,520
Mason Plumley last season. I have no doubt about that.

1460
01:13:42,039 --> 01:13:45,399
Mason Plumbley was that rough. And you know I love

1461
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:46,479
Sam big plumme a lot.

1462
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Plumbly experience, it was like, dude, just do

1463
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,600
the just do the things you're supposed to do. I

1464
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,039
don't care if you can awkwardly dribble all the fast break, like,

1465
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,800
just contend that the Like if you would have combined

1466
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,039
daniel Tice and Mason Plumley, that would have been the

1467
01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:08,319
best backup center ever. Yeah, because Daniel Ty didn't have

1468
01:14:08,399 --> 01:14:10,359
the height to challenge at the rim, but he did,

1469
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,640
and Mason Bloody had the height but never played good

1470
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:13,439
defense at the rim.

1471
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:17,039
Speaker 3: Daniel Tye had all the instincts that Mason Plumbley did

1472
01:14:17,079 --> 01:14:19,560
not have. It was tough to watch. I don't know

1473
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,159
how a guy can be out of position that much defensively,

1474
01:14:22,279 --> 01:14:25,199
But Charlotte fans are saying, I know how.

1475
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 2: He wasn't very good then either, yeah, will are you

1476
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,720
gonna get which Jersey getting first? Mobamba or Kai Jones?

1477
01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:37,520
Speaker 1: Probably Obamba, but just because he is a song agree.

1478
01:14:37,319 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: I really wanted to be good because the song with

1479
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,720
the Clippers wall would be sick feels like actually good?

1480
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 3: There is you can at least say with Mobamba. He's

1481
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,279
still not a finished product. There still is upside to him.

1482
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,800
He has shot a couple of years, thirty eight percent

1483
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,960
from the outside. It's only about three takes. But it's

1484
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,720
not nothing either. It's we're talking about a guy maybe

1485
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:07,000
playing fifteen minutes a night, right, That's I'm not overly

1486
01:15:07,159 --> 01:15:10,960
concerned with who he's been so far and where he

1487
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,560
could go.

1488
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: Well, and this depends too. We've talked about Zoo getting

1489
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,720
more minutes. The damage is lesson from a bad backup

1490
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:26,239
five situation. If Zoo just gets more minutes forty forty

1491
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:27,359
a night tim.

1492
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:30,039
Speaker 3: Style baby with a wig like andre Acaus he had

1493
01:15:30,039 --> 01:15:30,880
to wear with.

1494
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,520
Speaker 2: A wig because of math abuse, Zoo on math would

1495
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,680
be crazy, DoD They test your math in the NBA.

1496
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,720
It's out of your system pretty fast. Have we looked at.

1497
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 3: That big blue Metszuo bro come on.

1498
01:15:46,399 --> 01:15:50,199
Speaker 2: Zoo on the blue kidding me thirty five and four

1499
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:51,600
and twenty. Every night.

1500
01:15:53,119 --> 01:15:55,319
Speaker 3: He's wearing the top hat like Heisenberg Wall.

1501
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: He's losing it. Yeah, oh yeah, oh on the he's

1502
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,039
not sitting down on the bench. He pacing up and down.

1503
01:16:01,359 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 3: I am the danger.

1504
01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we agree, JM. I one tho. We don't

1505
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:10,399
know what's going on.

1506
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,039
Speaker 3: We're on basalts. We're talking about Zoo.

1507
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,239
Speaker 2: The off season, all right, any final thoughts. We've been

1508
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:25,159
hanging for like an hour and fifteen will Adam, how

1509
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,119
what do we want to see? I guess before the

1510
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:28,079
season starts.

1511
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:31,239
Speaker 3: I want to see a little bit more clarity with

1512
01:16:31,279 --> 01:16:34,760
the roster, with bones, with PJ. Tucker, with maybe a

1513
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:35,439
mere coffee.

1514
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:36,520
Speaker 2: You want bones traded?

1515
01:16:37,239 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not saying that. I just want decisions

1516
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,000
to be made because it sounds like he's not going

1517
01:16:42,039 --> 01:16:44,319
to get much of an opportunity. They are looking to

1518
01:16:44,359 --> 01:16:48,000
trade him. That's what Lawrence Frank basically said. So is

1519
01:16:48,039 --> 01:16:51,359
that going to happen? Because that uncertainty looming with a

1520
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,960
train camp coming up and guys who are going to

1521
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,840
be unhappy, I don't think that's the best way to

1522
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:57,880
open up a new year.

1523
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,520
Speaker 2: I like that.

1524
01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:03,039
Speaker 1: I would just love Yeah. I would love for opening

1525
01:17:03,279 --> 01:17:05,520
into a dome to not a PJ. Tucker on the roster.

1526
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,520
Whatever that takes.

1527
01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 3: We'll put it better than I by any means necessary.

1528
01:17:14,239 --> 01:17:18,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the clarity on the roster thing. I

1529
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,720
would like two people who don't seem happy here to

1530
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,199
be not on the team because we've got a lot

1531
01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:25,800
of guys who seem happy to be here. Derek Jones Jr.

1532
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,880
At the rinko hind rhyme going to be a starter

1533
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:32,279
like this is there's good vibes to be had, and

1534
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:34,159
those are worth something when you're gonna be an annoying

1535
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,279
team to play. Vibes are very important when you're not

1536
01:17:36,319 --> 01:17:38,520
a contending team. They are when you are contending, but

1537
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,199
to save from bottoming out, They're incredibly important for a

1538
01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:43,199
non contending team.

1539
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: They went into last year's training camp with the unknown

1540
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,119
and people talking about James Harden and when is that

1541
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:52,479
trade going to happen? It would just be nice for

1542
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,000
them to come into this training camp, hopefully with Kawhi

1543
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:58,239
healthy and knowing who your guys are, or at least

1544
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,439
what positions are available to be battled for by younger

1545
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,479
guys like Jordan Miller and Kobe Brown. I just want

1546
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,960
jimmy world level of clarity, that's all I want. One

1547
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,239
of my favorite albums are Ay.

1548
01:18:12,079 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: That's off to you, mister Oslo. I do okay? So

1549
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,920
I like this question from JM I one through two four.

1550
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,800
What do you guys think about hate watching players? Is

1551
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,640
it good or bad for sports culture? I would like

1552
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,920
to go first and then we can rotate around. That's

1553
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,119
okay with y'all. I think it's horrible for sports culture.

1554
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:32,800
I think it's horrible for any culture. Hate watching something

1555
01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:36,680
is not good for the person watching it at all.

1556
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,119
And that's the only person who it affects is the

1557
01:18:39,119 --> 01:18:42,800
person watching it. The person that you're hate watching the player.

1558
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,880
And I'm not saying this towards you. Jam digits. It's

1559
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,439
only effect, it's only fueling a weird thing by the

1560
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,800
person hate watching it, and it's a thing that is

1561
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:59,680
not good for productive miss in society around the regular people.

1562
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,840
I guess if that makes sense. Like, if you're at work,

1563
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,359
Will and someone's like, oh, yeah, I watched the Dodgers game,

1564
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,880
they're like, oh, you're a big Dodgers fan, and they're like, no,

1565
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:12,079
I just hate show. Hey Otani, you'd be like, okay.

1566
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,279
Speaker 3: You're a sick one if you hate Altani.

1567
01:19:15,039 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 2: What I'm saying like, I do good four hours of

1568
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,359
your day spat someone?

1569
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,399
Speaker 3: Does? Someone out there does they're getting off on that.

1570
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: Well, there's one specific guy, probably.

1571
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: Sean, and freudering about is not a good way to live. Yeah,

1572
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,439
I'm just gonna say that. It says a lot more

1573
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:34,000
about you when you get that involved with somebody who

1574
01:19:34,039 --> 01:19:37,439
doesn't know if you're alive. What's the John Ham gift

1575
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:38,359
for mad men?

1576
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't think about you at all.

1577
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,359
Speaker 3: Thank you. That's who we're trying to be.

1578
01:19:45,159 --> 01:19:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will, your thoughts on hate watching and why you

1579
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:47,920
love it?

1580
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: I have a life, I got another shiit on one.

1581
01:19:52,199 --> 01:19:57,199
I'm not hate watching anybody. Yes, I if you hate

1582
01:19:57,239 --> 01:20:00,279
watching my team enjoy I mean I don't. I don't

1583
01:20:00,279 --> 01:20:00,680
really care.

1584
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: Who has time to hate on others when there's time

1585
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,119
to hate on yourself, Come.

1586
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,520
Speaker 2: On, right, work on yourself.

1587
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,319
Speaker 3: When I have crystallized my inner hate for myself, then

1588
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,359
I could start exactly. No.

1589
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like, uh, it's weird, and it's weird

1590
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,399
of behavior, and it's a thing that is so weird

1591
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,600
that the people who do it don't tell people, which

1592
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:23,640
makes it even weirder.

1593
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 3: Oh, they keep it in and you.

1594
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. So you're just sitting there and

1595
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,079
you're like, h I hate Tree Young and you're like,

1596
01:20:30,119 --> 01:20:33,239
who is this? What is this for? You're not even

1597
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:37,960
blogging about this or anything. You're not even blogging Wait,

1598
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,359
what did we I'll.

1599
01:20:39,239 --> 01:20:44,279
Speaker 3: Be honest about I spent far too much of my

1600
01:20:44,399 --> 01:20:48,640
life hating on the Lakers, hating on Kobe Bryant. It's

1601
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,119
not a good way to live. I can confirm this. Sure,

1602
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:54,159
you find some other friends to hate along with you,

1603
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,399
And some of it's just good old fashioned hate. I

1604
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:59,840
think that's the Georgia Georgia Tech saying whenever they meet

1605
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,640
up that rivalry. Some of it's just sports. But if

1606
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,760
you're just by yourself and you're getting off on someone

1607
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,119
else's devisit a game that is sick o behavior?

1608
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,399
Speaker 1: Real sick gooning, it's weirder, even weirder gooning.

1609
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: It's goony without the reward.

1610
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 3: Right, I still don't know what that is.

1611
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: Well, buddy, if we got an article in the Atlantic for.

1612
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 3: You to read Urban Dictionary, how are.

1613
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: You online so much? You don't know what gooning is?

1614
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:28,279
All right?

1615
01:21:28,359 --> 01:21:30,199
Speaker 3: The pot I don't know what Twitter feeds your fallow.

1616
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 2: The podcast has taking a turn. I think we need

1617
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,479
to get out of here. This has been a wonderful

1618
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:41,159
happy hour pod. If you missed the episode we did

1619
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,600
last Friday, it was a very fun time. It is

1620
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,920
available on audio will where could they listen to it?

1621
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: So you could listen to that pod anywhere you get

1622
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,840
your podcast. If you listen over on Apple podcast or Spotify,

1623
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,199
go ahead leave a little rating or review. You can

1624
01:21:57,279 --> 01:21:59,159
watch this one. You could have watched us stream and

1625
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:01,359
live ask your quest questions done the whole bit over

1626
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:02,319
at YouTube dot com.

1627
01:22:02,359 --> 01:22:03,520
Speaker 2: That's at Clippers Podcast.

1628
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: You can usually watch every single one of.

1629
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: Our podcasts there as well.

1630
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,079
Speaker 1: Uh, just you know, restream kind of fucked up last week,

1631
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:14,920
So yeah, I don't know what you want me to do.

1632
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 3: It still hurts.

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01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 2: It hurts. It was a really fun episode. We'll get

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01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:20,199
it back.

1635
01:22:20,279 --> 01:22:22,359
Speaker 3: We were so animated that show and no one could

1636
01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:23,000
see it.

1637
01:22:23,039 --> 01:22:24,520
Speaker 2: Also be the best show we've ever done, but you

1638
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:30,800
could listen to it. We'll be back next week. My

1639
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,600
sister's birthdays next week, my birthdays two days before. That's

1640
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,279
gonna be a good time. Adam, You're gonna be at

1641
01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:38,439
the birthday party. I believe, unless you're double booked, I'll

1642
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,039
be there. Man, we're gonna be.

1643
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:44,159
Speaker 1: Coming at you some hate watching to do at Gonna

1644
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:45,720
USA tomorrow.

1645
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,039
Speaker 3: As I've heard stuff kidding that would never happen.

1646
01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do We could maybe do an earlier episode

1647
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,000
because we're gonna be into it on Sunday at noon,

1648
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:58,560
which is gonna be super fun. Excited at carpool, Excited

1649
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,880
for that, excited to stellon you got on the basketball court.

1650
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:01,840
If we get to play on it.

1651
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,039
Speaker 3: I think we're getting like the red carpet treatment. I

1652
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:06,560
don't know if they're gonna treat us like Mars or something, but.

1653
01:23:07,079 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: Will there be a lunch you set this up. Is

1654
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:10,840
there going to be a lunch?

1655
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Adam? You set this up so all of my expectations

1656
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,039
are going to come down on you.

1657
01:23:15,079 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 3: If they're not mad, we're brown bagging for the lunch.

1658
01:23:18,199 --> 01:23:20,279
Bro I got multables for all of us.

1659
01:23:20,399 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: Okay, if we got some dirt cups in there, shout

1660
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:29,560
out to everybody used to dirt cups, Adam. One positive

1661
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,239
thing before we get out of here and send these

1662
01:23:31,239 --> 01:23:32,279
people on their way.

1663
01:23:33,279 --> 01:23:36,159
Speaker 3: We're getting closer to Clippers basketball, but more importantly, we're

1664
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:40,199
getting closer to finally being home. Welcome home. The Clippers

1665
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:42,479
have their own home. They're not too good for their home.

1666
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,720
They have a home. Now into it done. We've been

1667
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,199
waiting for this for so long. I can't wait to

1668
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:49,159
be there on Sunday, and I can't wait to be

1669
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:51,880
there with twenty thousand people during the season. It's going

1670
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,279
to be I don't know. There's just so many different

1671
01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:59,000
elements that we get to experience now, like as fan

1672
01:23:59,119 --> 01:24:02,680
bases that have had their own arenas and stadiums for

1673
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,840
so long. No, there's a little legendary parts of the park.

1674
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,439
I visited Fenway recently for the first time this past summer,

1675
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,840
and you know it's all hat to them, but to me,

1676
01:24:12,119 --> 01:24:15,039
it was so interesting being there. It's just seeing how

1677
01:24:15,039 --> 01:24:17,680
different it is. Every arena kind of has its own life,

1678
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,159
its own culture to it, and we're gonna help create

1679
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:23,079
that and into it though. So that's gonna be really fun.

1680
01:24:23,079 --> 01:24:23,880
That's gonna be special.

1681
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 2: Fucking hey, dude, absolutely, what a great way to end

1682
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,279
this pod. Right, Well, like what I mean, I got nothing, man,

1683
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,079
we got nothing. We hope everyone has a great rest

1684
01:24:34,079 --> 01:24:36,880
of their weekend. We'll have content for you from the

1685
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,520
end too. It hang, Adam's gonna have content for you

1686
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,760
on the Clippers Talk Pod as well. And we're gonna

1687
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,640
do a schedule lease show at some point. It's a podcast.

1688
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:51,560
I'm so sorry. We're gonna do a schedule lease show.

1689
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,720
Someone asked about that. Jam Digits asked about that. We'll

1690
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,159
do a schedule Elise show. We'll have Joseph I Award on.

1691
01:24:57,399 --> 01:24:58,119
Speaker 3: That's a big day.

1692
01:24:58,359 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be a pretty easy episode because well,

1693
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,399
if I'm not mistaken.

1694
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: They're going to a two and oh yeah, this is

1695
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:05,479
our year, right.

1696
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's our year.

1697
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,319
Speaker 2: It's year all right. That wraps it up. Cheers to

1698
01:25:09,359 --> 01:25:11,880
everyone who hope you have a wonderful weekend, and as always,

1699
01:25:12,279 --> 01:25:13,039
let's go clips.