Speaker 1: Pussy, I'm out.
Speaker 2: This is the seventy seven WABC Mini cast.
Speaker 1: Hank Shankoff, Hank, good morning, buddy. How are you?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Sin doing well? Thank you very much?
Speaker 1: Oh God, bless it's good to hear that.
Speaker 2: So I know he's gonna show up. I get it,
Speaker 2: I get it. But he hears everything. He is very
Speaker 2: thin skinned. The New York Post, that's the cover today.
Speaker 2: You think at some point he even considers not showing
Speaker 2: up when the overwhelming majority of nine to eleven families
Speaker 2: don't want him.
Speaker 3: There a very important question, and will de Mayor not
Speaker 3: show up? He will show up. There's a photo that's
Speaker 3: been circulating of him and Governor Huckle at ground zero
Speaker 3: where they're laughing and they're smiling, and anybody who lives
Speaker 3: through that day and recalls it, well, well, wonder how
Speaker 3: anyone could smile or ever laugh again when you go
Speaker 3: to grounds.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so glad you brought that photo up,
Speaker 2: because I know what photo you're talking about. It was
Speaker 2: a couple of months ago, and it wasn't just hochel Amom.
Speaker 2: Donnie correct me if I'm wrong. I think Julie Menin
Speaker 2: was also in the photo. And maybe there were five people.
Speaker 2: There were five people, if I'm correct, right.
Speaker 3: Hank, I think something like that. I don't remember the
Speaker 3: Julie menin, but I certainly remember me. I certainly remember
Speaker 3: hochel Uh and the.
Speaker 2: Monny smiling like the tourists. He's more on tourists. They
Speaker 2: don't know any better. They think it's Disney. Well, three
Speaker 2: thousand people died there. Why would the mayor smile?
Speaker 3: It's it should shock the conscience that the mayor of
Speaker 3: the City of New York, a mayor of the City
Speaker 3: of York, would smile at a location where people who
Speaker 3: had no reason to die that day died simply because
Speaker 3: they were Americans, and they had gone to work and
Speaker 3: they decided, and they'd lived their lives as any other
Speaker 3: American would. And two hundred and how many firefighters close
Speaker 3: to three hundred died, or authority police officers, New York
Speaker 3: City police officers, court officer. I think anybody of any
Speaker 3: sacred service agent, FBI people and just average civilians went
Speaker 3: to work that morning and did not go home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Judge too, one of our great Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean you remember Michael Judge, Hank.
Speaker 3: Right. Of course, of course, the father made may rest
Speaker 3: in peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he died by next sa Budy Giuliani and but
Speaker 2: not Kaock. He got hit by somebody who jumped out
Speaker 2: of the out of the building and they landed on
Speaker 2: him and he died right there.
Speaker 1: So you you named all.
Speaker 2: The folks that that perish that day. And you know,
Speaker 2: I was watching somebody on television a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: and I don't like this guy. I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but I really can't stand there with Lewis and they're
Speaker 2: all Spencers days and nights on New York One, Mondays
Speaker 2: and Thursdays trying to convince New Yorker he's that this
Speaker 2: guy's doing a good job. Mom, Donnie and I sit
Speaker 2: down and I'm not as smart as you, Hank, but I.
Speaker 1: Try to That's not true. No, it is true, true,
Speaker 1: it is. And I tried.
Speaker 2: I figured, I try to figure out where he's doing
Speaker 2: a good job. Okay, kids, I got kids too, I
Speaker 2: got two kids. Great, so you got people watching the
Speaker 2: kids even in the Paul Call Day fantastic.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, I gotta tell you on the Proman
Speaker 2: con sheet, I've got about twenty five cons. I mean it,
Speaker 2: twenty five, and like one pro am I missing something
Speaker 2: like that said.
Speaker 3: He's a brilliant communicator, a brilliant propagandist, and he's setting
Speaker 3: this up talking about things he's doing which he's not
Speaker 3: necessarily doing because there's no money to do it. The
Speaker 3: city is going to have an extraordinary fiscal crisis under
Speaker 3: his control, which he's going to blame Eric adams Worth.
Speaker 3: But all these things he's talking about have become reality
Speaker 3: for the minds of too many New Yorkers, and most
Speaker 3: of them are not going to happen because there's no
Speaker 3: money there. And then he will be able to blame
Speaker 3: the Feds and blame the state and blame everybody else,
Speaker 3: and his constituency will be all revved up because they're
Speaker 3: being screwed their minds because the Great Man is leading
Speaker 3: them down the path to greatness and he's being blocked.
Speaker 3: That's the deal. He's brilliant at it. The problem is
Speaker 3: not much will be accomplished, because that's the nature of this.
Speaker 3: But those who love him will go into the streets
Speaker 3: and do the most horrendous things to prove their love.
Speaker 2: But I gotta tell you, maybe I'm wrong, Hank. I
Speaker 2: feel like the tide is turning. You say he's brilliant
Speaker 2: at it. He was, no question about it. He's an
Speaker 2: evil man. There's a lot of evil people that are
Speaker 2: ended up being very successful and very very bright.
Speaker 1: Right. I mean Hitler wasn't a stupid guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, And I hate saying his name as a Jew,
Speaker 2: but the truth is he wasn't a stupid guy. But
Speaker 2: I feel Hank and maybe I'm wrong, like the tide
Speaker 2: is turning a bit. I've actually spoken to New Yorkers.
Speaker 2: I'm an interviewer. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: I meet you on the street, I say, hey, nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. What do you think?
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing some buyer's remorse. I don't think this
Speaker 2: guy is nearly as popular today as a day that
Speaker 2: he won.
Speaker 1: Or am I wrong?
Speaker 3: No? I think you're right about that, Sae. I mean, look,
Speaker 3: forget about the Jews. He seems to find them as
Speaker 3: a minority that no one's paying attention to, and he's
Speaker 3: allowed to say what he wants. The Blacks are not
Speaker 3: going to lose their minds in the outer burrows. When
Speaker 3: he comes up with the taxi increase for homeowners, many
Speaker 3: of whom are African American Otto boroughs who have struggled
Speaker 3: to put property together over the years so they could
Speaker 3: put their kids to college and have some kind of
Speaker 3: benefit as they go forward into retirement and every day.
Speaker 3: I mean it's going to get worse. The Asians, the
Speaker 3: Chinese are now the large fasts going population New York City.
Speaker 3: They're underserved in Brooklyn and other areas with city resources.
Speaker 3: They're going to start to lose their minds. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is not going to work out well. But people
Speaker 3: have that base of stupid young people. Ye, the most
Speaker 3: tamper generation the history of man eat more regularly, never
Speaker 3: played kalous on their hands like him. They have been
Speaker 3: housed more regularly, guess at a higher costs. Unfortunately, they're
Speaker 3: over educated, and they stand to gain the larger transfer
Speaker 3: wealth in the history of humanity when the Boomer generation dies.
Speaker 3: So that's what we're talking about, is in his corner
Speaker 3: and in the corner of the progressives across the country.
Speaker 2: God, it seems so unfair, but you're exactly right. So
Speaker 2: you know I bought this over to you before in
Speaker 2: ed Cox and these other boats sat run the Republican
Speaker 2: Party in this city. You know this guy is already
Speaker 2: this is unbelievable. He's seven months in seven eight months
Speaker 2: in to his first term. He's already campaigning and raising
Speaker 2: money and I believe over a million dollars already for
Speaker 2: his next run in three and a half years, not
Speaker 2: three and a half months, in three and a half years.
Speaker 2: What should the Republican Party in this city and this
Speaker 2: state be doing right now? Because Dave Portnoy, Sid Rosenberg,
Speaker 2: Michael Rappaport, maybe Jessica Tish I may not get it done.
Speaker 3: It is important to create a Republican party in New
Speaker 3: York City. We don't really have one. We have the
Speaker 3: beginnings of one to I believe the two party. I
Speaker 3: believe in multiple multiple party, but certainly two party government.
Speaker 3: I think without it you have what we have today
Speaker 3: was is mom Donnie. The only way to make this
Speaker 3: happen and to make it work is for people stand
Speaker 3: up aside identifying as Republicans. They can be anti Trump Republicans,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, but they're going to start identifying his
Speaker 3: Republican's number one. Number two. Organize and create Republican clubs
Speaker 3: wherever you can that that are young people directed. Three,
Speaker 3: start running for seats. You know, at one point in
Speaker 3: the Upper East Side of Manhattan in modern history, like
Speaker 3: you know, thirty years ago we had a Republican congressman
Speaker 3: or a Republican assemblymen or Republican state center and the
Speaker 3: Republican let's see a council member. You know, you got
Speaker 3: to do that and getting one of the chambers back
Speaker 3: from the state legislation. You know, people see it on
Speaker 3: not paying attention. The plan that the bad guys have
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty eight is to take the legislatures all
Speaker 3: over the country. My hunch is their targets are New York,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, Maryland, California, and Michigan, my hunch, and the
Speaker 3: plan is to ensure that they control reapportionment, that they
Speaker 3: can do tremendous damage to the real estate industry, and
Speaker 3: that they can also ensure that taxed delectible contributions to
Speaker 3: Israeli charities, to Jewish charities get tossed out the window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just now that you know you mentioned the
Speaker 2: Upper East Side, Hank. I know you're familiar with everything
Speaker 2: going on in this city, but you know, I try
Speaker 2: to go out there as much as I can for
Speaker 2: Republican candidates, whether it's Joe Ornandez Whney, but controller and others.
Speaker 2: And I'll of me over the years, I've done sef
Speaker 2: with people that had about as good a chance of
Speaker 2: winning as you and I were not even running. But
Speaker 2: I just I just feel compelled to help Republicans. But
Speaker 2: I got to tell you how you know this lady.
Speaker 2: She was on my show again yesterday for the second time.
Speaker 2: But her and mother, she is so impressive. Her name
Speaker 2: is Caroline Shinkle. She's running for the old Jerry Navilus
Speaker 2: seat up there on the upper east side.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with her?
Speaker 3: I am. I have read a bit about her. I've
Speaker 3: seen this, I've seen her. She's appearing in some place
Speaker 3: that I that I frequent a lot of the next
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. I believe she's very smart, correct, certainly presentable. Yes,
Speaker 3: and she win that seat. That seat was cut to
Speaker 3: benefit Jerry Nadler in the first case. That's why Michael
Speaker 3: Lesher won. It's it's much more weighted toward the west
Speaker 3: side of Anton in the east side of Manhattan, and
Speaker 3: the west side of Manhattan has about as much probability
Speaker 3: of voting a Republican into office as Zoe and I
Speaker 3: have a growing Tusk tomorrow morning and moving to the
Speaker 3: ice age.
Speaker 2: You're right, and he's another guy that I don't like
Speaker 2: this Michael Lasher. To me, he's kind of like Brad Lander.
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned people that may run, and you know, like,
Speaker 2: let me have a.
Speaker 1: Guy that's very outspoken.
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of money, a lot of money,
Speaker 2: and people like the businessman running for office now because
Speaker 2: of the success of President Trump. Bill Ackman, for example,
Speaker 2: I don't like everything b Lackman says. He was way
Speaker 2: off on may Eric Adams, way off on a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff during the mayor race.
Speaker 1: But he's a smart guy. He's worth about ten billion,
Speaker 1: whatever it is.
Speaker 2: You look at a guy like him, I'm not even
Speaker 2: choice a staunch Republican, even though he does sit at
Speaker 2: the White House coming dinner with President Trump. A guy
Speaker 2: like him, maybe even a guy who was so on
Speaker 2: CMBC yesterday, guy like Jamie Diamond. Those are types of
Speaker 2: people you think that New Yorkers would like to see
Speaker 2: run in these races.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Michael Bloomberg is the kind of person
Speaker 3: that New Yorkers might want to see run for office.
Speaker 1: He wanted he would do it again. You think he
Speaker 1: would do it again, they know, but.
Speaker 3: That kind of person, not not somebody who's brazenly rich,
Speaker 3: you know, because the graveyard of American politics is filled
Speaker 3: with the very rich people who were told by political
Speaker 3: consults that they could win. And what the political cult
Speaker 3: saw was new houses in the Hampton, and what the
Speaker 3: rich people saw was offices they could never achieve. So
Speaker 3: it's a pretty pretty deadly combination. And if you look
Speaker 3: at what the rich people did in their and the camp,
Speaker 3: the money that they raised to elect someone we shot,
Speaker 3: you know, Andrew Cromo in campaign, it was just stupid
Speaker 3: and badly run, frankly, and the Independent Committee was stupid.
Speaker 3: I told them that they ought to be in the
Speaker 3: street doing what Mamdanie was doing, knocking on doors, and
Speaker 3: they told me that I was obviously on drugs. So
Speaker 3: I guess that the guys who did those campaigns did
Speaker 3: very well financially, but New York certainly did not do well.
Speaker 1: No, we did not