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<v Speaker 1>Pussy, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the seventy seven WABC Mini cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hank Shankoff, Hank, good morning, buddy. How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? Sin doing well? Thank you very much?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, bless it's good to hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know he's gonna show up. I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. But he hears everything. He is very

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<v Speaker 2>thin skinned. The New York Post, that's the cover today.

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<v Speaker 2>You think at some point he even considers not showing

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<v Speaker 2>up when the overwhelming majority of nine to eleven families

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<v Speaker 2>don't want him.

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<v Speaker 3>There a very important question, and will de Mayor not

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<v Speaker 3>show up? He will show up. There's a photo that's

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<v Speaker 3>been circulating of him and Governor Huckle at ground zero

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<v Speaker 3>where they're laughing and they're smiling, and anybody who lives

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<v Speaker 3>through that day and recalls it, well, well, wonder how

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<v Speaker 3>anyone could smile or ever laugh again when you go

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<v Speaker 3>to grounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm so glad you brought that photo up,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know what photo you're talking about. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months ago, and it wasn't just hochel Amom.

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<v Speaker 2>Donnie correct me if I'm wrong. I think Julie Menin

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<v Speaker 2>was also in the photo. And maybe there were five people.

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<v Speaker 2>There were five people, if I'm correct, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hank, I think something like that. I don't remember the

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<v Speaker 3>Julie menin, but I certainly remember me. I certainly remember

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<v Speaker 3>hochel Uh and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Monny smiling like the tourists. He's more on tourists. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't know any better. They think it's Disney. Well, three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people died there. Why would the mayor smile?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it should shock the conscience that the mayor of

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<v Speaker 3>the City of New York, a mayor of the City

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<v Speaker 3>of York, would smile at a location where people who

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<v Speaker 3>had no reason to die that day died simply because

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<v Speaker 3>they were Americans, and they had gone to work and

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<v Speaker 3>they decided, and they'd lived their lives as any other

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<v Speaker 3>American would. And two hundred and how many firefighters close

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<v Speaker 3>to three hundred died, or authority police officers, New York

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<v Speaker 3>City police officers, court officer. I think anybody of any

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<v Speaker 3>sacred service agent, FBI people and just average civilians went

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<v Speaker 3>to work that morning and did not go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Michael Judge too, one of our great Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you remember Michael Judge, Hank.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Of course, of course, the father made may rest

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<v Speaker 3>in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he died by next sa Budy Giuliani and but

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<v Speaker 2>not Kaock. He got hit by somebody who jumped out

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<v Speaker 2>of the out of the building and they landed on

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<v Speaker 2>him and he died right there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you named all.

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<v Speaker 2>The folks that that perish that day. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching somebody on television a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't like this guy. I mean, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>but I really can't stand there with Lewis and they're

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<v Speaker 2>all Spencers days and nights on New York One, Mondays

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<v Speaker 2>and Thursdays trying to convince New Yorker he's that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's doing a good job. Mom, Donnie and I sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and I'm not as smart as you, Hank, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to That's not true. No, it is true, true,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>I figured, I try to figure out where he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>a good job. Okay, kids, I got kids too, I

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<v Speaker 2>got two kids. Great, so you got people watching the

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<v Speaker 2>kids even in the Paul Call Day fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside of that, I gotta tell you on the Proman

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<v Speaker 2>con sheet, I've got about twenty five cons. I mean it,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, and like one pro am I missing something

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<v Speaker 2>like that said.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a brilliant communicator, a brilliant propagandist, and he's setting

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<v Speaker 3>this up talking about things he's doing which he's not

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily doing because there's no money to do it. The

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<v Speaker 3>city is going to have an extraordinary fiscal crisis under

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<v Speaker 3>his control, which he's going to blame Eric adams Worth.

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<v Speaker 3>But all these things he's talking about have become reality

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<v Speaker 3>for the minds of too many New Yorkers, and most

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<v Speaker 3>of them are not going to happen because there's no

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<v Speaker 3>money there. And then he will be able to blame

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<v Speaker 3>the Feds and blame the state and blame everybody else,

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<v Speaker 3>and his constituency will be all revved up because they're

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<v Speaker 3>being screwed their minds because the Great Man is leading

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<v Speaker 3>them down the path to greatness and he's being blocked.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the deal. He's brilliant at it. The problem is

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<v Speaker 3>not much will be accomplished, because that's the nature of this.

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<v Speaker 3>But those who love him will go into the streets

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<v Speaker 3>and do the most horrendous things to prove their love.

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<v Speaker 2>But I gotta tell you, maybe I'm wrong, Hank. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the tide is turning. You say he's brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>at it. He was, no question about it. He's an

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<v Speaker 2>evil man. There's a lot of evil people that are

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being very successful and very very bright.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I mean Hitler wasn't a stupid guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And I hate saying his name as a Jew,

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<v Speaker 2>but the truth is he wasn't a stupid guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel Hank and maybe I'm wrong, like the tide

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<v Speaker 2>is turning a bit. I've actually spoken to New Yorkers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an interviewer. That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I meet you on the street, I say, hey, nice

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm hearing some buyer's remorse. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is nearly as popular today as a day that

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<v Speaker 2>he won.

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I think you're right about that, Sae. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 3>forget about the Jews. He seems to find them as

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<v Speaker 3>a minority that no one's paying attention to, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to say what he wants. The Blacks are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to lose their minds in the outer burrows. When

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<v Speaker 3>he comes up with the taxi increase for homeowners, many

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<v Speaker 3>of whom are African American Otto boroughs who have struggled

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<v Speaker 3>to put property together over the years so they could

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<v Speaker 3>put their kids to college and have some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>benefit as they go forward into retirement and every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's going to get worse. The Asians, the

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese are now the large fasts going population New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>They're underserved in Brooklyn and other areas with city resources.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to start to lose their minds. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not going to work out well. But people

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<v Speaker 3>have that base of stupid young people. Ye, the most

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<v Speaker 3>tamper generation the history of man eat more regularly, never

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<v Speaker 3>played kalous on their hands like him. They have been

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<v Speaker 3>housed more regularly, guess at a higher costs. Unfortunately, they're

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<v Speaker 3>over educated, and they stand to gain the larger transfer

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<v Speaker 3>wealth in the history of humanity when the Boomer generation dies.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what we're talking about, is in his corner

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<v Speaker 3>and in the corner of the progressives across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>God, it seems so unfair, but you're exactly right. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know I bought this over to you before in

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<v Speaker 2>ed Cox and these other boats sat run the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party in this city. You know this guy is already

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<v Speaker 2>this is unbelievable. He's seven months in seven eight months

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<v Speaker 2>in to his first term. He's already campaigning and raising

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<v Speaker 2>money and I believe over a million dollars already for

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<v Speaker 2>his next run in three and a half years, not

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half months, in three and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>What should the Republican Party in this city and this

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<v Speaker 2>state be doing right now? Because Dave Portnoy, Sid Rosenberg,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Rappaport, maybe Jessica Tish I may not get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>It is important to create a Republican party in New

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<v Speaker 3>York City. We don't really have one. We have the

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<v Speaker 3>beginnings of one to I believe the two party. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in multiple multiple party, but certainly two party government.

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<v Speaker 3>I think without it you have what we have today

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<v Speaker 3>was is mom Donnie. The only way to make this

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<v Speaker 3>happen and to make it work is for people stand

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<v Speaker 3>up aside identifying as Republicans. They can be anti Trump Republicans,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter, but they're going to start identifying his

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<v Speaker 3>Republican's number one. Number two. Organize and create Republican clubs

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<v Speaker 3>wherever you can that that are young people directed. Three,

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<v Speaker 3>start running for seats. You know, at one point in

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<v Speaker 3>the Upper East Side of Manhattan in modern history, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, thirty years ago we had a Republican congressman

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<v Speaker 3>or a Republican assemblymen or Republican state center and the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican let's see a council member. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to do that and getting one of the chambers back

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<v Speaker 3>from the state legislation. You know, people see it on

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<v Speaker 3>not paying attention. The plan that the bad guys have

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<v Speaker 3>for twenty twenty eight is to take the legislatures all

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<v Speaker 3>over the country. My hunch is their targets are New York,

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey, Maryland, California, and Michigan, my hunch, and the

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<v Speaker 3>plan is to ensure that they control reapportionment, that they

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<v Speaker 3>can do tremendous damage to the real estate industry, and

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<v Speaker 3>that they can also ensure that taxed delectible contributions to

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli charities, to Jewish charities get tossed out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just now that you know you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 2>Upper East Side, Hank. I know you're familiar with everything

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<v Speaker 2>going on in this city, but you know, I try

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<v Speaker 2>to go out there as much as I can for

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<v Speaker 2>Republican candidates, whether it's Joe Ornandez Whney, but controller and others.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll of me over the years, I've done sef

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<v Speaker 2>with people that had about as good a chance of

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<v Speaker 2>winning as you and I were not even running. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just feel compelled to help Republicans. But

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you how you know this lady.

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<v Speaker 2>She was on my show again yesterday for the second time.

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<v Speaker 2>But her and mother, she is so impressive. Her name

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<v Speaker 2>is Caroline Shinkle. She's running for the old Jerry Navilus

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<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with her?

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I have read a bit about her. I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen this, I've seen her. She's appearing in some place

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<v Speaker 3>that I that I frequent a lot of the next

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks. I believe she's very smart, correct, certainly presentable. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and she win that seat. That seat was cut to

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<v Speaker 3>benefit Jerry Nadler in the first case. That's why Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Lesher won. It's it's much more weighted toward the west

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<v Speaker 3>side of Anton in the east side of Manhattan, and

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<v Speaker 3>the west side of Manhattan has about as much probability

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<v Speaker 3>of voting a Republican into office as Zoe and I

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<v Speaker 3>have a growing Tusk tomorrow morning and moving to the

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<v Speaker 3>ice age.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, and he's another guy that I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>this Michael Lasher. To me, he's kind of like Brad Lander.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you mentioned people that may run, and you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that's very outspoken.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a lot of money, a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>and people like the businessman running for office now because

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<v Speaker 2>of the success of President Trump. Bill Ackman, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like everything b Lackman says. He was way

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<v Speaker 2>off on may Eric Adams, way off on a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff during the mayor race.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a smart guy. He's worth about ten billion,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at a guy like him, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>choice a staunch Republican, even though he does sit at

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<v Speaker 2>the White House coming dinner with President Trump. A guy

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<v Speaker 2>like him, maybe even a guy who was so on

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<v Speaker 2>CMBC yesterday, guy like Jamie Diamond. Those are types of

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<v Speaker 2>people you think that New Yorkers would like to see

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<v Speaker 2>run in these races.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, Michael Bloomberg is the kind of person

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<v Speaker 3>that New Yorkers might want to see run for office.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted he would do it again. You think he

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<v Speaker 1>would do it again, they know, but.

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of person, not not somebody who's brazenly rich,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because the graveyard of American politics is filled

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<v Speaker 3>with the very rich people who were told by political

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<v Speaker 3>consults that they could win. And what the political cult

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<v Speaker 3>saw was new houses in the Hampton, and what the

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<v Speaker 3>rich people saw was offices they could never achieve. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a pretty pretty deadly combination. And if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what the rich people did in their and the camp,

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<v Speaker 3>the money that they raised to elect someone we shot,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Andrew Cromo in campaign, it was just stupid

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<v Speaker 3>and badly run, frankly, and the Independent Committee was stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>I told them that they ought to be in the

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<v Speaker 3>street doing what Mamdanie was doing, knocking on doors, and

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<v Speaker 3>they told me that I was obviously on drugs. So

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that the guys who did those campaigns did

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<v Speaker 3>very well financially, but New York certainly did not do well.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we did not
