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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hello everyone, it's Heidi Ganal. I have not been

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<v Speaker 2>in this chair for a while. It's so good to

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<v Speaker 2>be back. Ryan. It's great to hang out with you again.

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<v Speaker 2>We hung out this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just pals. We're pals, are pals. I know, it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me smile when I see you, even at

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<v Speaker 2>six point thirty in the morning. Now, that event was you.

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<v Speaker 4>Need to know that other than Michael Brown, who I

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<v Speaker 4>wake up and cover his show for because I get

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<v Speaker 4>paid to do it, I actually showed up to that event,

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<v Speaker 4>not getting paid to do it, but because I wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>To be there. Heidi, That's how much it meant to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And it takes a lot to get me up that

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<v Speaker 3>early because I'm a night ahul.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you me too, Ashley. Right, So, when Myra

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<v Speaker 2>asked me if I would kind of take over that club,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an amazing club. It's been around for over ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>started as the arapa Ho Men's Breakfast Club, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it became the Arapaho County Republican Breakfast Club and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's the South Metro Republican Breakfast Club. It's super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We had over one hundred people there this morning. We

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<v Speaker 2>act it was packed and we had Britta Horn come

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<v Speaker 2>in and talk to us about what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the party. In our first thirty days, it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>little spicy, lots of action there and just had a

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<v Speaker 2>great time this morning. So anyone who wants to join

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<v Speaker 2>just bought me an email at Heidi at Rockymountain Voice

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<v Speaker 2>dot com and I'll get you the information. But Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, I've been out for a month recovering

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<v Speaker 2>from breast cancer surgery and I'm fine. They caught it early.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be just dandy, so happy to hear

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<v Speaker 3>that news.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. But man, it's a brutal surgery, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do well sitting on the couch for a

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<v Speaker 2>month now.

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<v Speaker 3>We do not imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I drove my family nuts. I think of my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But my kids loved it because we got a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>meal almost every night from those meal trains. People do

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<v Speaker 2>I have the best community around me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But now they're like, where's where's the food? What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to stay on the meal train.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's stay on the meal train. I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys know, and I'm a terrible cook. I'm married one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best cooks, Jason. I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason and GQ, that's some solid stuff, I know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like he wants to come home and cook.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I got a big question. Yeah, So I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to the Rockies game tonight. Looks like solo because nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>Heidi Kelly will go with you in the weather.

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<v Speaker 4>At fifty degrees. But I know that there's GQ in

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<v Speaker 4>the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, there is, and they have the best mac

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<v Speaker 2>and cheese with brisket.

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<v Speaker 3>Or pulled pork on it. Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>So where in the park is Is it just one location?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it in the upper level because I think I

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<v Speaker 4>remember it being.

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<v Speaker 3>There is No.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fail as a wife, as a Barbara wife.

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<v Speaker 2>I know where it is in my mind. I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't describe it to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I just text Jason?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, I'll text Jason after the break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, please do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just about to open another location up in Thornton.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe they're opening next week and he's at all

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<v Speaker 2>the stadiums. I think they're going into the CSU Football Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>How about you you plug.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess who's catering Kelsey in my wedding. This is Jason Goanall.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Ryan. That is so cool. It had to be right,

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<v Speaker 3>It had to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, now, I know you love GQ.

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<v Speaker 4>What that And I gotta tell you we help our own,

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<v Speaker 4>if you know what I mean. Yes, And Kelsey is

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<v Speaker 4>very much on board with that part of it too.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a big fan of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was great to see her this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't get to talk to you about spicy. She

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<v Speaker 4>was riled up like swow little early for this energy,

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<v Speaker 4>but she had it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we intend to do with those breakfast meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to get everybody keyed up, ready to fight,

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<v Speaker 2>ready to get in the game. We've been doing a

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<v Speaker 2>little thing on Twitter in this little community I have

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<v Speaker 2>called Colrad's Road Back to Red and it's grown to

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<v Speaker 2>almost three thousand people in this community. And we do

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<v Speaker 2>fight back in five what's something you can do to

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<v Speaker 2>fight back in just five minutes and we post in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of people post in there all throughout the day. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's you know, a piece of legislation you can write

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<v Speaker 2>an email to in five minutes. Here's something you can

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<v Speaker 2>pop off on social media in five minutes. Here's a

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<v Speaker 2>call you can make in five minutes. It's super easy

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<v Speaker 2>and cool and would love to have you guys join us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's at Heidigenals my Twitter and then you just go

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<v Speaker 2>to my profile and you have to ask to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the community because we don't want any you know,

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<v Speaker 2>far lefty crazies in there. So not that we can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we can tell, Oh yeah, okay, Ryan, yep, I

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<v Speaker 2>told you earlier on your show. As I popped on

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<v Speaker 2>for a few minutes, there was a really cool article

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<v Speaker 2>in the Denver Gazette, And I don't have the actual article.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have time to pull it, but I pulled

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<v Speaker 2>a tweet that kind of reviewed it, and it talks

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<v Speaker 2>about how Colorado has changed I think in the last decade.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the timeframe, but these stats are shocking,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if every candidate that's going to run for governor,

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<v Speaker 2>US Senate, attorney general, any Republican that's running for anything

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado should pull up this list and here, here's

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<v Speaker 2>your game. Here's like, here's what you should be talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to give you a little taste. We used to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the top five states for economic performance. We

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<v Speaker 2>are now in the bottom ten. Colorado ranks among the

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<v Speaker 2>least five affordable states for housing in the whole country.

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<v Speaker 2>The state ranks as the sixth most regulated in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course corresponds with slower business growth and innovation.

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<v Speaker 2>It also corresponds which with a Phibbian guy named Jared

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<v Speaker 2>Pulus who says he's very libertarian. How can you be

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<v Speaker 2>libertarian and be running the sixth most regulated state in

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<v Speaker 2>the country. That blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about a Lino, right l O.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't heard that a libertarian name only, But it's

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<v Speaker 4>not even that. After he signed that gun grab bill,

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<v Speaker 4>the most anti libertarian bill ever signed by any governor,

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<v Speaker 4>including Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, buddy, you don't get to call yourself libertarian anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think with that bill and if he signs

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<v Speaker 2>or let's go into law thirteen twelve, everybody must know

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<v Speaker 2>about thirteen twelve at this point, but it is the

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<v Speaker 2>most horrible bill that goes after parental rights and is

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<v Speaker 2>terrible for our kids and families, and it just I

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<v Speaker 2>think it lands on the governor's deyt today. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>curious to see what he's going to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think he does?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he punted his entire political career with the

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<v Speaker 4>gun grab bill.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does it matter at this point?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what he's trying to prove, or who

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<v Speaker 4>he's trying to impress, or who.

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<v Speaker 3>He thinks he's playing to.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is such a losing battle nationally. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>said this time and again, and I got this information

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<v Speaker 4>from Lori Gimmelstein. By the way, Colorado Parent Advocacy Network,

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<v Speaker 4>they built a little poison pill into thirteen twelve, knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that it could be circumvented, it could be overcome with

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<v Speaker 4>a petitioner initiative on the they made it so you

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<v Speaker 4>can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>To safety clause.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, Yes, Why would they have to do that, Heidi?

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<v Speaker 4>If it's such a good bill that's popular with the

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<v Speaker 4>majority of Colorado's.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But it's so devious. This stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. It's making national news it's putting Colorado on

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<v Speaker 2>the map as now not just an abortion tourism state,

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<v Speaker 2>but a trans tourism state. And oh my gosh, you

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<v Speaker 2>better not have kids in this state. That's how bad

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<v Speaker 2>things are. Which here's another lovely stat along those lines

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty seventeen, from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five percent increase in abortions in Colorado. We've gone

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<v Speaker 2>from eighty eight hundred and twenty seventeen to over fourteen

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<v Speaker 3>That is terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado's fallen from a top ten state for in migration

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<v Speaker 2>so people moving into the state, to the bottom ten

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five. I mean, the list goes on

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<v Speaker 2>and on. I could sit here and just read this

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's jaws would drop to the ground hearing what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening to our beautiful stage. So we'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 2>that at four thirty five. I'm going to have my

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<v Speaker 2>good friend Lynn Gerber come on. We met actually in politics,

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<v Speaker 2>but we share a passion for animal rescue, and Lynn

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the most amazing human beings. She has

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<v Speaker 2>saved so many dogs, so many dogs. I think she

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<v Speaker 2>has five of her own at her home, but she

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<v Speaker 2>does amazing work and she holds the people's feet to

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<v Speaker 2>the fire that run animal rescue, like legislation and oversight

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<v Speaker 2>in Colorado. I'm going to tease it with a couple

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<v Speaker 2>stats that are going to blow you away. In twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four alone, Colorado euthanized six thousand animals in our shelters,

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<v Speaker 2>and Denver now ranks fifth nationally in sheltered euthanasia rates.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a big problem here, and it's political too.

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<v Speaker 2>It has a lot to do with Jared Pois and

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<v Speaker 2>his partner Marlon Reis, who's very involved in the animal

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<v Speaker 2>rescue community here in Colorado. So that's after the four

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<v Speaker 2>thirty break, and then at five point thirty, I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 2>on Lacey Williams, who's on our Rocky Mountain Voice team.

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<v Speaker 3>She is a rock star.

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<v Speaker 2>She worked with Turning Point for several years and now

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<v Speaker 2>she works at Rocky Mountain Voice doing our social media

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<v Speaker 2>and as part of our content team with Tory, my daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jen, our editor. And she also is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the heads of Colorada Young Republicans. So you think Turning

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<v Speaker 2>Point is high school and college and then colorda Young

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans is post college, the young folks, the gen Zers,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have opened fourteen chapters around the state of

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and they are making huge strides. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have Lacey on to talk about gen Z and

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and young conservative young conservatives here and how we

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's so important too, Heidi, because I actually

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<v Speaker 4>had one come up to me today, David Proctor, a

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<v Speaker 3>Young man, and he has a mind for it. I

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, right. I'm so excited about that part of

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<v Speaker 2>back right after this to talk more about all the things.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kapla Show Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight Afternoons slash Evening. This is Heidi Ganal filling in

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<v Speaker 3>I love how I broke that news for you, ting

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's good news. Dan is doing the good work,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping us safe, putting bad guys where they need to go,

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<v Speaker 2>protecting people's livelihoods. So we need to let him do that.

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<v Speaker 2>He does it very well.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just one more day, he says, one more day.

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<v Speaker 4>He's telling us he'll be back on Friday. But this

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure that I believe that Dan'll be here

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have my thirteen year old's party with twelve

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<v Speaker 2>Something just broke that's really cool. And after just having

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<v Speaker 2>Again movement, and I just found out that Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>Great great interview with.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you it's been a real eye

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<v Speaker 2>it's a whole different perspective and you've got to really

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<v Speaker 2>So if there's anything she could do along with RFK

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<v Speaker 2>Junior to bring back a level of trust in the science,

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<v Speaker 4>I just love this kind of extra dimension that has

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<v Speaker 4>been added to what is our movement? Which how do

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<v Speaker 4>you done such a yeoman's work in advancing not only

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<v Speaker 3>And now our FK Jr. And this is where you know, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Got to wait things out sometimes in politics. And I

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<v Speaker 4>got really upset with Sean Hannity who turned on RFK

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<v Speaker 4>more harm to Trump than to Biden in a potential race. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>what happened is our FK junior sat down with Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they established that fact. Both said, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>want Biden to win. Let's form an alliance. Let's do

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<v Speaker 4>like the Mega Powers Randy Macho, Mann Savage and Hulk Hogan.

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<v Speaker 4>And they did that on stage. I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>Las Vegas. It was electric. The crowd reacted. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>that the RFK Junior voters came over to our side.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the other thing too. We're talking about comedy works

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<v Speaker 4>didn't really want to. And he kind of asked how

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<v Speaker 4>many Trump supporters we have? And there's a murmur myself

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<v Speaker 4>and a few others, Yeah, yeah, okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the guy in the front row says, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>an RFK Junior supporter Tim Meadows went off on that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>What Christian Total wrote an article about it, Hollywood Intoto

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<v Speaker 4>so at RFK junior supporters than Trump supporters. The bottom line,

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<v Speaker 4>I might be slightly misrepresenting, but not really was well,

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<v Speaker 4>Trump supporters, they're just they're a lost cause and you

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<v Speaker 4>know they're not that right whatever. You should know better

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<v Speaker 4>as an RFK Junior supporter because you're actually smart.

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<v Speaker 3>But what are you doing? He got really mad.

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<v Speaker 4>He apologized to the audience, and that's when I knew, Heidi,

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<v Speaker 3>With Donald Trump. It is powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's been incredible to watch all these previous democrats

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<v Speaker 3>I know, Tulsea Gabbert, Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy, and I you know, I have to say, Heik,

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a really good place. We've got great policy ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got good solutions for things. One of the groups

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<v Speaker 2>Conservation Coalition, and you got to look it up. It's

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<v Speaker 2>website that lays it out. But it's young conservatives taking

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<v Speaker 2>back the conversation around the environment and clean land and

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<v Speaker 3>We are the original conservation Party.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've got sixty thousand, I think seventy thousand now

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<v Speaker 2>members across the country on college campuses and they're growing

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<v Speaker 2>very involved in Colwordy Young Republicans and we should get

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<v Speaker 2>up to come on tomorrow. But we're taking back the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation around the environment, We're taking back the conversation about health.

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<v Speaker 2>So needless to say, I think I think we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to so more voters in Colorado in order to ride

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<v Speaker 2>excited about things going on in the conservative movement, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think nationally, well, this morning, I asked the whole room,

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<v Speaker 2>Can we agree that we like what's happening nationally? We

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<v Speaker 2>totally we're all in on what's happening nationally. Everybody went whoay, yay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, you guys, we all just agreed on

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<v Speaker 2>as Ronald Reagan said, doesn't matter. So that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite moments of this morning, of the breakfast

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<v Speaker 2>much to agree on, we have so much good stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to sell, our ideas and principles to the people of

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado just need to get together and do it. So

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<v Speaker 2>Lenn Gerber and talk all about in politics.

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<v Speaker 2>That was great choice in music, Ryan, we love our

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<v Speaker 2>doggies and kiddies. I mean, at least all my friends

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<v Speaker 2>think now they have over two hundred locations, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>really what got me launched in politics too. I got

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<v Speaker 2>really frustrated about the government getting in the way of

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<v Speaker 2>more people. It was insane. But the other cool thing

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<v Speaker 2>that we did was start the bow Wow Buddies Foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>were able to rescue over ten thousand dogs over ten

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<v Speaker 2>years through rescue or fostering them at the local camp

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<v Speaker 2>since the camps would let them hang out there while

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<v Speaker 2>they got a home and my franchises were just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>They fostered so many dogs and just created just an

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<v Speaker 2>We met not on the dog front, we met in

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<v Speaker 2>I found out what an incredible heart she has for

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<v Speaker 2>you some pretty amazing things about Colorado and how off

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<v Speaker 2>and how we can fix things. Lynn, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Heidi camp Be.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I love you, Oh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hanging out with dogs was really cool way to

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<v Speaker 2>And why going from dogs to politics that was kind of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a crazy transition, but it's helpful in what

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<v Speaker 2>these amazing dogs that need help. So I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to tell folks a little bit about your background and

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<v Speaker 5>Point, well, well, I never thought of ever being in politics,

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<v Speaker 5>a licensed a nonprofit and we work with homeless, at

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<v Speaker 5>risk dogs in underserved areas in Colorado and New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's my heart's work, along with Good Dog Good Life.

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<v Speaker 5>As a digital creator.

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<v Speaker 2>You are becoming quite the influencer on social media. Your

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook page, I think you have how many followers? Sixty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand followers now, yah, we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to hit sixty here and we're just up and

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<v Speaker 5>running on YouTube. Thank you for your support on that, Heidi.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. And so it's called Good Dogs, Good Life. They're

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube, Facebook and TikTok. You've got to go check

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Especially if you love dogs. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>love what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Good Dog Good Life on TikTok, YouTube and Facebook. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>says Hidi.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, I'm going to tweet out about it later and

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<v Speaker 2>with all the links and posted on Facebook, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have got of an urgent crisis in Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and it's been building for a few years,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've talked about it, written about it, advocated for

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<v Speaker 2>policy to stop what's going on. But I gave these

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<v Speaker 2>tidbits earlier in the show Lynn that in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four alone, six thousand animals were euthanized in shelters in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and Denver now ranks fifth nationally in shelter ethan

447
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<v Speaker 2>asia rates. What on earth has happened to create this mess?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow? Yes, that is accurate. The numbers just came out. Well,

449
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<v Speaker 5>housing people surrendering animals, and unfortunately, we import so many

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<v Speaker 5>animals into Colorado with rescues you know, with names fit

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<v Speaker 5>in for it. There are Colorado based rescues, which they're

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of reasons. I'm not sure how much

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<v Speaker 5>you want to go into all that, but one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and sixty three thousand dogs and most puppies were imported

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<v Speaker 5>into Colorado in the last six years.

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<v Speaker 3>And then tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is kind of the bare bones way to

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<v Speaker 2>describe how this happens. We have puppy mills around the country,

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<v Speaker 2>or there's organizations that will take in puppies from rescues.

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<v Speaker 2>They import them into Colorado, and some of these rescues

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<v Speaker 2>work as nonprofits, but they make a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>because they charge like thousand dollars adoption fees. They call

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<v Speaker 2>it retail rescue. And so you think you're a opting

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<v Speaker 2>a puppy that's been you know, dumped on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the road, and actually it's been very intentional where

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<v Speaker 2>they bring them here and they can adopt these dogs

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<v Speaker 2>out for very high fees. Is that an accurate way

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<v Speaker 2>to describe what's been happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think puppy mills are a separate issue. But

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<v Speaker 5>what we do have is we have a lot of dogs,

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<v Speaker 5>mostly from Texas, that come in. They're free. There's no

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<v Speaker 5>you know, there's no transaction with dollars. They come from

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<v Speaker 5>shelters there there is great need in our states and

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<v Speaker 5>we're a great state for importation. So that is what

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<v Speaker 5>happens the rescues. A lot of our large importers are importing,

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<v Speaker 5>they're getting free dogs, bringing them in for all kinds

477
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<v Speaker 5>of different reasons, and it really boils down to dollars

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<v Speaker 5>dogs or dollars dogs or commodities, and unfortunately Colorado has

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<v Speaker 5>gotten out of hand.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you say dogs are dollars, like I described

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<v Speaker 2>one way that nefarious actors are bad actors make money

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<v Speaker 2>off of this animal rescue world, what's another way, like

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<v Speaker 2>to give us a couple other examples of how they're imported. Well, no,

484
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<v Speaker 2>how people make money off this? Like how this Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just amazing to me the amount of money that's

486
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<v Speaker 2>in like the rescue space and the shelter space, and

487
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are making money off of ways

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<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't be, like their heart's not in it for

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<v Speaker 2>the right reasons.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think to kind of sumb it up is

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<v Speaker 5>that you have many small rescues in Colorado that do

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<v Speaker 5>amazing work. But when you have rescues that we have,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, probably fifteen plus that bring in, you know,

494
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<v Speaker 5>hundreds and hundreds of puppies and dogs that from other states,

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<v Speaker 5>we really don't know what's coming into our state. And

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of the dogs, the puppies are picked over.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes the dogs are bundled, and many of the dogs

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<v Speaker 5>end up in boarding and we're basically just it becomes

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<v Speaker 5>a dollar. I don't think some people start out, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>with good intentions, but I think they see how much

501
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<v Speaker 5>money can be made. So we have dogs warehouse, we

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<v Speaker 5>have dogs you know that are food food dogs. And

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<v Speaker 5>what's sad is that we have a lot of rescues

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<v Speaker 5>that in for you're adopting a dog from a Colorado

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<v Speaker 5>rescue and in fact you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's been my pot That's what I've written

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<v Speaker 2>on before in the past, is these retail rescues and

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<v Speaker 2>how these nonprofits that rescue dogs quote unquote make They

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<v Speaker 2>get huge donations and huge investments by people, good people

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<v Speaker 2>who think they're doing the right things. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>the flip side, which we're going to talk more about

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<v Speaker 2>after the break, but the political side of it and

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening in Colorado politically and how we went from

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<v Speaker 2>being one of the best states for animal rescue and

515
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<v Speaker 2>low euthanasia rates to being one of the worst. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of it has to do with legislation or policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that correct line?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I you know what's happened right now is because

519
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<v Speaker 5>Denver is saturated in the cost of living that because

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of our rescues, we would like to see

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<v Speaker 5>them help and support our shelters, our municipal shelters. So

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<v Speaker 5>what's happening is that municipal shelters and rowers where we

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<v Speaker 5>work in we cannot compete with the puppies and the

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<v Speaker 5>food food dogs, and so what happens is they get

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<v Speaker 5>surrendered to the shelter when there's not space, or you

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<v Speaker 5>have behavioral issues, or you just you know, they have

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<v Speaker 5>there's nothing they can do. A rescue is supposed to support,

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<v Speaker 5>and we would like to see our Colorado rescues support

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<v Speaker 5>our shelters and not. You know, it's just it's sad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think right now, we've got to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of our own pups that need homes, albiodies, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>God bless the other states that need help, but we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to figure this out in Colorado. So Lynn, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring you back after the break to ask

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<v Speaker 2>a couple more questions about the political side of this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Heidigan All filling in for Dan Capless. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back right after the break.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast and Capitalists.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have my friend Lyn Gerber, who's been pretty

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<v Speaker 2>politically active in Colorado but also just a warrior for

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<v Speaker 2>rescue animals across the state and doing wonderful work. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to share out her information on her organization

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<v Speaker 2>and how to follow her on Facebook, YouTube, and TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>later online. But Lynn, there's a few things that I

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<v Speaker 2>think people can do fundamentally to help with this overpopulation

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<v Speaker 2>problem and our packed shelters and euthanasian problem here in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>One is make sure that your pets are spayed and

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<v Speaker 2>neutered number two vet no pun intended the rest before

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<v Speaker 2>you adopt an animal, and make sure they have a

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<v Speaker 2>good reputation, that they're doing it for the right reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>there aren't exorbitant fees involved. And then finally donate and

552
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<v Speaker 2>volunteer with the good ones. That leaves out the political

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<v Speaker 2>side of things. So I want you to explain to

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<v Speaker 2>people real quickly who oversees our shelters and rescues in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and where there might be some gaps or why

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<v Speaker 2>we might need to ask our legislators to do more.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, the key is Jared Polis, our governor did nat

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<v Speaker 5>a division of animal welfare where the only state in

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<v Speaker 5>the nation that has a division, And what we would

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<v Speaker 5>like to see the governor and Act is stronger enforcement

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<v Speaker 5>through your here's regulatory agency view of animal protection and

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<v Speaker 5>pass a Pet Animal Care Facility Act. We would love

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<v Speaker 5>to see the governor be more involved and enforcement of

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<v Speaker 5>animals that are being abeers and rescues that are taking

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<v Speaker 5>advantage of our consumers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I was looking at the numbers. There

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<v Speaker 2>were two hundred and seventeen PAKFA violations over five years.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and fifty seven were direct and one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty seven licensed rescues were cited for PAKFA violations

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<v Speaker 2>in a single year. And that's very telling. And they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a big staff at Pakfast, so that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of citations for a small team. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 5>Well when you consider there as close to three thousand

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<v Speaker 5>licensees in Colorado. Wow, thereby of the compliants come in

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<v Speaker 5>on the rescues and the rescues. I caution people just

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<v Speaker 5>because people call themselves a rescue does not necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 5>their rescues. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the key things that I've

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<v Speaker 2>learned from you and that I want our listeners to

581
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<v Speaker 2>take away is don't believe just because it says on

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<v Speaker 2>Facebook or pet Finder or the flyer that they're a rescue.

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<v Speaker 2>There are amazing animals that good rescues all over this

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<v Speaker 2>state and good shelters that are being cared for and

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for a home. And I'm not saying the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that are with not good actors are you know, shouldn't

587
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<v Speaker 2>be adopted. They should, but we don't want you taken

588
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<v Speaker 2>advantage of and we don't want you kind of keeping

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<v Speaker 2>this system going right and feeding the machine. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a good way to say it in exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>And I would love to see people write our governor

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<v Speaker 5>and demand transparency, demand that we protect and our consumers

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<v Speaker 5>from whistleblowers. The industry is so money motivated and some

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<v Speaker 5>of these rescues are making so much money they are

595
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<v Speaker 5>intimidating for our consumers to fosters. And I would like

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<v Speaker 5>to see our state we used to be the later

597
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<v Speaker 5>and leader in the nation. We still are in many respects,

598
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<v Speaker 5>but we need to protect Patta. But Patta and a

599
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<v Speaker 5>Governe government needs to get on the ball. They need

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<v Speaker 5>to start dealing with the bad actors and publicly. I

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<v Speaker 5>started the violations and inspection reports were posted. That has

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<v Speaker 5>to be made available to the public.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not right now. No that's crazy, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand why not? Why why wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>They You count a lot of these people have attorneys

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<v Speaker 5>and it's litigation, and unfortunately PATA has really stepped it

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<v Speaker 5>up lately and they have really taken some people to task.

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<v Speaker 5>But they have a limited budget, budget, limited resources, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, times are tough, so don't have in a

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<v Speaker 5>point an animal division and not in act change. So

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<v Speaker 5>get going, Jared on your last year and path get

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<v Speaker 5>you know, strengthen and strength. We have an advisory committee

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<v Speaker 5>and we would love to see those people more engaged

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<v Speaker 5>instead of just seat warmers. We would love to see

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<v Speaker 5>the committee, the advisory committee that advises the Department of

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<v Speaker 5>Bag Advice and become involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Lynn, I think I applied to be on that committee,

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<v Speaker 2>but for some reason Jared did post didn't put me

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<v Speaker 2>on the committee. I don't understand. Oh no, I know

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<v Speaker 2>politics comes into play there.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it is very political. Having people need to know

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<v Speaker 5>dogs and dollars dogs or a commodity. And we have

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<v Speaker 5>to protect our great, amazing shelters. We have the best

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<v Speaker 5>municipal shelters and our small rescues that get hurt by

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<v Speaker 5>these big players get play big they have attorneys, and

626
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<v Speaker 5>they are our betoners, and they're intimidators and it has

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<v Speaker 5>to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'm going to do a follow up to

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<v Speaker 2>this interview. We're going to post this interview on Rocky

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain Voice, but I'm also going to do a follow

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<v Speaker 2>up article where we're going to detail some places and

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<v Speaker 2>ways people can find out who those bad actors are

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<v Speaker 2>and hold them accountable and ask the governor and his

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<v Speaker 2>division and his advisory committee to do this. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with you in this fight. I know there's lots of

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<v Speaker 2>animal lovers across this state that are in this with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get the job done. But thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>all you do. Lynn. We so appreciate you, and keep

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<v Speaker 2>up the great work and I will share your social

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<v Speaker 2>connections later on on social media.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Hatty, And can I just ask for one

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<v Speaker 5>big ask here?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 5>We currently are in rural Colorado. Our program works with

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<v Speaker 5>all rural areas and we are in desperate need of food.

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<v Speaker 5>I just posted on our social media Positive Pathways on

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<v Speaker 5>my personal page, we really need food. We are undershirt,

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<v Speaker 5>we are in rural Colorado. We do the tapest work

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<v Speaker 5>in the state in rural Colorado, and we have an

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<v Speaker 5>amazing team from Pueblo all the way south east and southwest.

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<v Speaker 5>We could sure you some help that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to get the word out about that. Lynn.

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<v Speaker 2>How can people donate? Do you guys have a website?

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<v Speaker 5>We do Positive Pathways CEO for Colorado dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's positive pa w s a d iv YEP.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Positive Pathways dot COO. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Positive Pathways COO Colorado dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it? Got it? All right? Great?

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<v Speaker 2>I will post that link later.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Lynn. I'm gonna talk about one quick thing before we

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<v Speaker 2>go to break, but I appreciate you being on the

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<v Speaker 2>show and we'll follow up with a written article as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for your amazing work. We appreciate it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>No worries, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Real quick, I want to celebrate the Beagle Testing Lab

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<v Speaker 2>getting shut down. What a great thing that President Trump did.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very proud of him. I think that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>So I want to a dupe one. Oh Kelly, I

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<v Speaker 3>do you need to? I know I think you need to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find it for you. I'll find it by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the break, I promise
